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RHOSLC San Francisco trip Part !! · Reality: We've got thoughts

• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Reality We've Got Thoughts.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: We have a great episode for you today, recapping the real housewives of Salt Lake City.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm Susan.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm Debbie.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: And we're here to break down all the shows that you're watching and give you our thoughts on everything.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: So today it's Salt Lake City, and the big news that's come out in the last day or so is Whitney Rose actually filing for divorce.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Which says a lot that Whitney was the one to file, not Justin.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like Justin is not wanting the divorce like Whitney is.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking because remember, I was even worried, or just wondering if it was a storyline, if it was actually legitimate or not.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: So I they still have young kids.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, their kids are teenagers now, but they're still young.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_02: And it really I feel like divorce affects teenagers more than anything.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's really sad when you think about how they got together and that now it's come to this.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like they already ended their marriages.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: They both ended marriages because they were seeing each other.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so two marriages were ruined for one to come together, and they've been married for a long time.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they've been together for a while, and I really was hoping that this that this was the thing.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: So, and I'm sure you saw where um Heather Gay actually found out about it live on reality checked radio show on Andy, and then she was on Watch What Happens Live, which I know you saw.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: So Heather was kind of surprised.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: Heather was surprised because Andy Cohen asked her, he said, you know, what do you think of this new news that we just got about Whitney Rose?
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: And she Heather said, I was shocked.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: I was really shocked.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: And Heather just said she was I thought she was very careful with her words because she's clearly close to that she's related to Whitney.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: But she said, divorce is very hard for everybody involved.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: It was very traumatic for me.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: I went through a lot with my own divorce, and I just want to be there for Whitney.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and she said, I can't even imagine having to go through it in such a public way on this platform.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Heather said that hers was very private for a very long time.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I do think that, you know, we're seeing the same thing right now with Sai da Silva on the latest episode of New York where her husband filed for divorce and she did not realize, even though they were separated, that he was going to do it.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: And again, another very public, um, public divorce.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that Whitney will really be going through it.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: I just think it's interesting how these shows show these couples so strong.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: And then after filming for a couple years, we start seeing fractures in relationships.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you always wonder is it the show that ruins it or are they actually watching themselves back and seeing And it's just bringing everything to the surface for them.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: Or even the fame.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: And in Whitney and Justin's situation, the company, right?
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: The company's the Wild Rose Beauty that um her company that failed, and it it's come out that, you know, part of the reason it failed is Justin's fault.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because he was really involved in multi-level marketing, and he had been with several different companies.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: And most recently, after being fired from one of the companies, which you remember that was covered on episodes where especially after they did that scene with the painting, body painting and all that, he was let go.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: So then he was with another company, and that company had issues, and then suddenly the male and female founder of that company, there came out another multi-level marketing company and started a new company.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: A new company, and it had two female CEOs, the original woman founder, and then Whitney Rose was the basically like the co-founder, co-CEO.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: And the way the story goes, right, is that supposedly literally at the same exact time that Whitney was talking with Sephora, which there was no guarantee that her products would have been in Sephora, but she was in talks with them.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: Justin and these other founders were trying to get her to go in with this new company.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, because their other company was failing.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: So they were trying to salvage whatever they could to start this new company.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I think Justin probably did some heavy convincing to get Whitney to go with his his idea of helping the company.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_02: Seeing that how successful Wild Rose Beauty had been, that if they could pull that into this MLM, he convinced her that the MLM was the more equitable way to go.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he I think she really did this at his you know advice, and I don't think she's forgiving him for that.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: And when that started to go bad, she stepped down as CEO of that company, and we know that because she invested all her own money to start the brand.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: Which is how not a lot.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: It about, yeah, like she said it was most of her savings, around$300,000 to start, and from all accounts, it was going well up until this point.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: So not exactly sure what happened.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: But um certainly we would think that if she did have the opportunity to go into Sephora, that would have been a lot more.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_02: But also last season they bought a new house, correct?
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: Was that last season a few things ago?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: Why, if you are in a struggling relationship, would you buy a new home?
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so who knows?
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like who knows where along the way this broke down.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: This broke down.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: But Heather did hear about it kind of in real time.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: If you go back and watch it.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was it was pretty crazy.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I don't wish divorce on anyone.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: I've had close family members, friends go through divorce.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's ugly no matter how you look at it.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: Even if it's an amicable divorce, it's still ugly.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: And like we said, especially in this this public, public yeah, I can't imagine going through it on that platform.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: So with that being said, on the episode of Salt Lake City, once we're gonna start at the beginning, but that's one thing that they talk about also with Angie, and obviously Bronwyn is going through it.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of a theme of the show.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: They're basically this show is now basically becoming like a lot of the other shows where literally no one is married.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, it got to that point on Real Housewives of New York where none of them were married.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's like the real single ladies of the colour.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: So in this episode, they're still on that San Francisco trip.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: So they wake up in the San Francisco hotel the day after that horrible St.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_01: Patrick's Day outing where they had all the fighting and the going back and forth.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: And that kind of shows all of the girls having converse phone conversations with their significant others, just saying, Oh my gosh, you're not gonna believe what happened last night.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: Just kind of recapping it with them.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's it was a disaster.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then Angie is actually on the phone with Mary, um, telling Mary how the trip got off to a great start, but then it really went sideways.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: So Angie then goes to Heather's room to debrief.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: And Heather, like you said, was on the phone with her boyfriend, and then Angie gets there.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: So what'd you think of their conversation?
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: Again, here we are with another divorce situation, potentially.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: Angie kind of breaks down.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: Heather, she's like, Look, I'm so happy for you, and blah, blah, blah.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: You've got all this going for you.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: You're so doing so well.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: You went through such a hard time when you got divorced, but now you're doing so well.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, now I'm the one going through marital problems.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: My marriage is really hard right now.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we don't act like a married couple anymore.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's to the point where we don't even tell each other, I'm running to the store, I'm doing this or that, that, or the other.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: So um, I had a hard time deciphering whether or not Angie was really crying or if it was for the show.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is she acting, you know, what's going on?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: Heather seemed kind of shocked.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: Heather seemed genuinely shocked.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: So even with all the rumors and the speculation about Sean, um, I think that she seemed surprised.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Sean and Angie have been together for what, 30 years?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: Married for 20 something and and knowing and dating each other for 30 years.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: They have a they have a teenage daughter together.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they've been together for a long time.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I think for Angie, with her Greek background, marriage is such a sacred thing that I think that's where she's really struggling with.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_02: She's trying to salvage something that she's not sure if it's what's making her happy anymore.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she said that, you know, after going in, they are incredible business partners, they've put everything into raising their daughters, and um, but unfortunately, things have changed.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like you get older and things change, she feels like they are just coexisting and really not, you know.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the producer even comes out and asks her about their sex life, and she just says, like, let's just say we're not acting like a married like a married couple.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it's really sad.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: She's you know, she says, um, it's just different.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: You you're so used to doing everything for everyone.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_02: And as a mother, then you start, it's just different.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: You start asking yourself questions about why?
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: Why do we do it this way?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_02: Why are we doing that?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: And um, she, you know, she's just struggling.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's I think we've talked about this before.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_02: As a mother, you're constantly, or a woman, period, you're constantly evolving.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: You are when you're a single woman, you're one person, and then you get married and you evolve into another person, and then you have children, and you're a different person at each stage of those children's lives.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: And then you're an empty nester and you have to evolve again.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I think Angie's just at one of those points in her life where she's trying to figure out who she is and what she wants long term and how she's gonna evolve.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and as we know, this is definitely a pivotal point where some couples make it and some couples don't and add into it the TV show and the fame and it, you know, and murmurs and everything that go along with everything.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gotta be hard.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: And Angie does ask Heather not to say anything to anybody at this point about it, so we will have to wait and see when Angie starts to let this out to the rest of the cast members.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: I think this is something Heather will keep close to her chest because she's been there, she's been through it.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if she would have told Whitney, the whole group would have known by now.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: Can we talk about them having a flashback to their high school pictures?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Because they talk about how they've known each other since high school.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: We have to because who else knew them since high school?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's the Heather and Angie I knew.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like when those pictures popped up, oh yep, yep, that's Angie, that's Heather.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: Those are the Heather and Angie.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: I went to high school.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: We graduated the same year of high school together.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_02: I went all through high school with both of them.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: So it's been kind of fun to watch everything there.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because you said that in another episode.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: But tell us, are there any stories that you can think of?
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Heather even alluded to the picture of Angie.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like Angie showed up to school looking like that every single day.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: She had curly, curly hair.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_02: She'd pull out, you know, and a back then it was a big old scrunchie on top of her head, and half up, half down, and it every single day that was Angie.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Angie was loud, she's always been loud, she's always been the life of the party, always fun.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: Heather was the life of the party, but more subdued, I think, partly because of her um Mormon background, that she was a little bit more subdued and didn't Angie just let it all hang out.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: She partied, she did this, that, the other, she let it all hang out.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: Heather was much more subdued with it in high school.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it sounds like maybe Heather got more wild later, and she was a good Mormon before she was a wrote the book Bad Mormon.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: But well, she talks about it.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: If you've read her book, she talks about it in her book that kind of she did she dabbled in things in high school that she knew she wasn't supposed to be doing, and then once she let go of all ties to the Mormon church, she just kind of went wild.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's changed a lot.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: She's gone through a lot of self-discovery.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: I have to hand it to her because she took the time to figure it out on her own without the pressures of everything else.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: Did you go to any of those reunions when they talked about being a little bit?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: So the reunion when Angie pulled up in her Ferrari, that was our 20-year reunion.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: And Angie and Sean pull up in this fancy Ferrari, and everybody's like, ooh, who's got the Ferrari?
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: And out walks Angie, but she's had so much work done on her face that she like it was clear it was Angie, but it was like, wait, is that Angie?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because she was just much more glamorous.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: So even at the 20-year-old wow.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, that is awesome.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, so cool.
• 13:00
  unknown: Crazy.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, wow, wow.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because it was funny how that's what Angie said.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: She was talking about that reunion and said at that reunion, Heather was the one that was like had been divorced, like just freshly divorced, Heather was fresh off her.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: All this stuff.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: And Angie was like up on a high, very happy, and her um, you know, and all that stuff.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: So now she felt like they had switched places.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and the reunion was interesting for me because it I had been out of the state for quite a while.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so to come back and see interesting to see those that stay kind of with that whole high school group of friends and those that kind of branch out and do different things.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's just interesting to see how people evolve.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: That is so weird.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: But Angie and Sean have built this empire with their um hair business in Salt Lake.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: They own a ton of hair schools, academies, salons, everything.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I like him, so I hate this for them.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: I would hate, you know, but again, we all know that this does this does happen.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: They were very flashy though at the reunion.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: With I mean, they were in their Ferrari, they were in their designer clothing and well, yeah, she's always in all the designer stuff, and even her ha the house, you know, her house.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: So is that in Park City?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's up in the foothills of Salt Lake City.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: So Okay, cool.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: So interesting.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: So interesting.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: So then Bronwyn is texting the group about them all going out and um and saying that she's got big plans and all that and that they're gonna split up.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: But before we get to that, there is this breakfast with Britney, Whitney, and Heather at breakfast together.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, what do you think about that?
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: Well, why do they always have to talk about each other?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: I know it's part of the plot of the show and everything, but can we not just have a gathering of some of these women where they just talk about themselves and not the other women?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: And the way that Britney says, Well, I'm in a really good place with Bronwyn, so I really don't want to be saying anything, but and there's always a butt with Britney.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um But you know, Bronwyn says that they sold the house together, but I looked up the deed and only Todd signed it.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like she's just looking for something.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, but that may or may not matter because it doesn't matter.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: There's all this ways, and every state is different.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what the Utah divorce thing, but like it might not even matter.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: Just because it's in a certain LLC doesn't mean that she's not gonna end up having rights to part of that money or what have you.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Or that it's Britney's business.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's none of this.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Britney's whole point was uh none of her stories line up, none of them match up.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: There's shady stuff going on, and what she's telling us probably isn't what she's really going through.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: But why dig it up?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: So the other thing is Whitney talks about quai, and of course, this is gonna be crazy because their friendship's already gonna be on the rocks now after what happened at the um at the at the bar.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so she's you know, she's saying she's not the type of person for you know what did she say, for you personally.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: When she was saying like why she told the story about it, she said, Well, I didn't even mean it.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was just trying, you know, Angie was asking me what Qui was like, and I just wanted to tell her, Oh, you know, she's not you're gonna like her.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like personally, I'm you don't hear anything bad about her.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like the only thing I know about her is this toilet store, this toilet toothbrush in the toilet story.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: But she didn't even need to be bright.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's so crazy.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: I still think, you know.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and then and then Whitney's like, My lesson, don't tell gossip, whatever.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's not gonna be your lesson.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: You're always, always talking about it.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's been the gossip from day day one.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: She's just immature.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: So when they finally go and they're gonna leave for the day, is that how you thought the group when when Bronwin said she was gonna split the groups up?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Is that like Bronwin's funny because it shows Bronwin like sending a text to the group saying, Hey, we've got two different things planned.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: There's gonna be two groups, and then she's like, so-and-so pissed me off, so-and-so pissed me off, and so-and-so pissed me off.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: So they're going in one group, and then the ones that I like right now are going in this group.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's crazy because it's like Bronwyn, Heather, Whitney, and Britney go together, and then Meredith, Lisa, Kwai, and Angie.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: And Angie's like, Oh, great, you know, I'm already having problems with this Kwai, and now I'm stuck.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: And they get in the back of the car together and everything, and they're both kind of like, whatever.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: So Qi's like, Oh, I get to spend the day with Angie, yay.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Which Angie created those problems.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: Angie did not have to create those problems, so she has no one to blame but herself.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, it was ridiculous.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: But I actually think it helped them to spend the day together.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: It was probably they did a little bit of bonding.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: They, I'm sure they probably had an apology in there somewhere that we didn't get to see.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: But on these shows, don't you think it's weird how they have like these forced outings?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like I mean, come on, the sex museum, whatever the vibrator.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so let's talk about where they go.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: Angie, Meredith, Lisa, and Qui get sent to an antique vibrator museum.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: First of all, why do those even exist?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's so weird.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean so weird.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: I guess at San Francisco, anything goes in San Francisco like that.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess that's true.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just what did you think of the woman that gave them the tour of the museum?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, she was into it.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: She was definitely into it.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: She knew her stuff.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: She knew her stuff.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like she was a hippie back in the day.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: I could totally see her, and she was probably so excited.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like, anyway, how many, how many visitors a day do you think they get there?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: So it looked like it was like attached to the sex shop, but it was because then they bought the get later.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: We know they bought the gifts there.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: But so I'm I don't know how many people are setting out just to go to that.
• 18:40
  unknown: I know.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: Just like a little aside to the to the sex shop.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: So then the rest of the group goes to this vintage store with this guy that John Hadid, who's a stylist that's dressed brown one for years, back in the day when she had the very elaborate, like flowery um outfits, he was dressing her, and that's how she knew him.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I think she wanted to make a point of telling us that, like, oh, I always address like, you know, and it wasn't just like since she got with Todd with his money, like, she's always been into this type of shit.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: He knew her pre-Tod.
• 19:11
  unknown: Yeah.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: The stylist knew her pre-Tod.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_02: So he I think she was trying to show him, look, she was a person before she met Todd.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: She was she's always been this way, she's always been elaborate and into fashion and and everything.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: But then they kind of start talking about Bronwyn and Todd's divorce.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: And Brittany has so many questions for her.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um quite frankly, I think most of the questions Britney was asking her were completely inappropriate.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like And would she be asking her that if they weren't on a TV show together?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, you know, I mean, why is Britney's been through a divorce?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: She knows better.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: She's just getting way too personal, you know, and and all that.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: But then Heather asked Bronwyn, uh, because they start talking about the deed to the house and yada yada yadda.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: And Heather asked Bronwyn, she says, 'Well, could Todd still screw you over?' Um, and Bronwell says, 'Well, yeah, I guess he could.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it sounds like he could.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: And in the confessional, you know, Heather's like, 'She should probably wait till the ink is dry before she's out with this young guy, Brandon, putting this all in Todd's face.' And she did say, you know, Bronwin's like, Todd does get a little spicy about the Brandon thing.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, on a side.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Heather's like, you're she's just an idiot.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: She's going off a handshake deal and thinking the deal's done, and she could potentially get screwed in all of this.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: But I don't know.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I've also seen speculation that maybe part of the reason Bronwyn did the show is because Todd's been treating her and cheating on her for years, and the only way to fully out him and get revenge is to throw it all out in the public eye.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure that would definitely you would be motivated by so many things if you were a woman who knew you were already in this bad marriage, that you were maybe looking for a way out, especially in a certain financial situation with a daughter and all that stuff.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Her daughter's getting older now, so that's not as much of an issue.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: She this opportunity comes along, or she seeks it out, or however, I don't know exactly how she ended up on the show.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: But you could see how that would be very tempting because now she's making money from the show.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure she's making a lot of money from her social media.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: She's getting all entertaining, right?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: The the Oscars thing, all that.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: She she can now, she's enough of a character, fashionista, all this stuff where now she can make a decent living for herself.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, without having to rely on him.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: So this is a good way for her to position herself to be able to get out of this.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: And what's more embarrassing for a very powerful, successful man than to be out and on TV?
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: And for everybody to be able to see.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: So that very that very well could be true.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: Time will tell.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: We will see.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: So then they get, they're gonna get ready to go out that night.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody comes back, they're gonna get ready to go out.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and at some point they're showing Heather um, I mean, Angie in the confessionals, and Angie is talking about the fact that she is, you know, does think that she has been overcompensating to protect her daughter Electra by um trying to stay positive and that she thinks that she can feel the tension.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like Electra's old enough where she would know that Angie and Sean were having a lot of people.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: Kids aren't done.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: They pick up on everything.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: We think we're protecting them and shielding them, but they probably are more intuitive than we are.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: So she talks about that in the confessional because she talks to Electra on the phone, so then that prompts.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: That confessional.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: But then they all go to go out and they're going to go to Chinatown and go to the dumpling making.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: They go to dinner and make dumplings and have a contest to see who can make the best dumpling.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever been out and had dumplings in Chinatown in San Francisco?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: I have.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: It was so many years ago, but it brought back memories of how delicious that meal was.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, same thing if you go in New York or anywhere.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: But so that was cool.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was making me hungry.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I just love San Francisco.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's such a unique city that has so much to offer.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: I would, it's been a many years.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's really great.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think 20, God, has it been 2018 since I've been there?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: Time time flies.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so they come out.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: Kwai's outfit was gorgeous.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Kwai looked fantastic.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: She looked the best she looked on the show.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: She looked fantastic.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: She brought it for sure.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: She looked so good.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: She's making she's solidifying her place, I think, as a permanent fixture on the show.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Even though she's still a friend of, she's a very active friend of, certainly more than Britney, but of course she's new and we're getting to know her.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: So they go to this place, China Live.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: They are ridiculously overdressed for this place.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: And they all like there was clearly no memo on what the dress code was.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: Because some are overdressed, some are dressed okay, but overall.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: And you notice all the patrons in the restaurant that are looking at them like Yes, because when they're doing the dumpling making, they are just out there in the middle with all the patrons, and you see how casually almost everyone else in there is dressed.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: That was funny.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: And they're just standing there making the dumplings.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and then they have a contest to see who can make the best dumpling.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: And Lisa, as they're making the dumplings, asks the instructor to come show her and help her.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: And the instructor hands her the dumplings she's made, and Lisa hands back the dumpling Lisa made.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: So she's now got the perfect dumpling that the instructor made.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: So when the instructor goes to judge them, who do you think wins?
• 24:35
  unknown: Lisa.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Lisa Barlow.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: And she was so gloating.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was funny how she was gloating about it in such a crazy way over winning this dumpling making contest.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: Knowing she cheated.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Lisa is so fun.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: So classic Lisa, though.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: So that was like a fun little activity, like you always see.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: So then when they go upstairs to the private room, I was like, oh, okay, I could see a little bit more like the restaurant.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: That was such a pretty private room.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: I loved their nice round table that they all got to sit around, which is great for filming.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's also great.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Just personally, I love going to some sort of dinner party where you're at a round table and everybody can really see each other.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: I prefer a round table.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like when you're at a long table, you have a conversation with the person across from you or the person next to you.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: You can't engage in full conversation.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: I much prefer a round table.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing like a big round table.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so once they go out there, that's when the stuff starts to come out that they did buy gifts at the sex shop for the distribute, and they start distributing them.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: I thought Whitney's gift was so appropriate.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: It was so funny.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: Gives Brit gives Whitney a gag.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: A ball gag.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: A ball gag, which I started laughing because I was like, that's so appropriate because she's an idiot and can't keep her mouth shut.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: And so that was that was.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_02: Heather got what?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Heather got pasties that change color.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Heather got like mood ring pasties that I guess based on the temperature of your ball.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: And she hops up and puts it right on.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, oh, here I go.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: She like puts it right on.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: She's such a good time girl.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like they is a good time girl.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: And when, and it's funny because she immediately, of course, when when Quay gives the offer.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Quay or Kwai?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Kwai, Quay.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: See, Ashley.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: She's Ashley.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's Kwai.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Kwai?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because I remember saying Kwai like I, because I I've had a problem with her name from the beginning.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: As you, if you guys listen, you know that.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: So Ashley, when she gave it to Whitney, she of course immediately brings up the fact that it's because you couldn't keep your mouth shut and that you told everybody the toothbrush story.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um so that was that was funny.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then they gave Bronwyn the other sex toys that's with the prophylactic.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, with the um, with the hearts all over it and all and all of that.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: So that was hilarious.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: We'll keep it PG.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: But then they kept passing it around that you couldn't speak unless you were holding it.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then Lisa had it and was like, that was funny how they're making fun of that.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's you know, when they start getting into the fight and Whitney is saying stuff about Meredith, Meredith's like, wait a second, you're the one that said you hated me, referring to the video that she was caught on at the drag show.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: Meredith's like, I never said I hated you.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: And the the one thing I feel about this season, their fights are like ridiculous and confusing to follow.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's they give me a headache, their arguments do, because they all shout over each other.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone wants to be heard and talks louder and louder.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: And Angie actually stopped in this time and was like, hey, quiet.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's crazy because they're like, it's like, you said that Bronwyn said that you said that.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why they have to have so many flashbacks.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's very hard to follow.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: Agreed, agreed.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: But you know what's going on, and the funny thing is, every episode now we get these flashbacks where they're basically contradicting what's being said in the moment.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because Bronwyn is even trying to say Bronwyn is one of the worst.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because Bronwyn is is trying to say that Kwai said something bad about everybody in the group when they were at a bar named Sue, right?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, you know by the flashbacks that it's actually not true.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Bronwyn said something first, and then Kwai said something back.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Bronwyn kind of triggered it.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: So, um yeah, I think Bronwyn can't keep her story straight either.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: She's got too many storylines going on in her own head that she can't keep her own story straight, and so then she confuses other people's stories.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: And she does have a lot going on, she's going through divorce and everything.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: But I do think that Ashley is getting a little bit of a raw end of the deal with that, and I am s really surprised at Whitney.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why is Whitney going so hard and throwing Ashley under the bus when that's supposed to be her friend?
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, Whitney's going through her own stuff.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Misery loved company.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: So um Oh, yeah, because then what happened is Whitney is claiming that Qui stood in her foyer and said bad things about Meredith.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: So Whitney is definitely trying to get Meredith to be against Ashley, and it's like, why?
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Just because you don't like Meredith?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: Now you want now you're pitting her against Yes.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: You want Kwai to have to come and quay quai uh I'll just call her Ashley because I'm saying it wrong, I think.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: You want Ashley to come into this situation and be disliked by these people just because you have problems with them.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: So how can because Ashley's mad at you now?
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: So how could you be such a bad person that she said things to you off camera beforehand as your friend?
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't You're not a friend.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: You shouldn't be bringing that into the show.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: You're not a friend.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: You're not a true friend.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: And then it kept flashing every flash would be to Lisa, and she's putting lip liner out.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like how many I I said out, I think I said out loud, how many times is Lisa gonna line those lips?
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then they they actually brought that up.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_02: It was so funny.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: It was funny because she was, it was like some obsessive, compulsive thing.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Almost like a nervous habit.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Angie was the funniest when Angie says, It's a nervous tick to keep lining your lips like that.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: You're making that trout pout.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, now it's like you're looking at a vulva from the other day.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're going around in a circle.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: We can't go back and litigate all this stuff, so it's crazy.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're gonna see Lisa's lip lined a lot this season.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: She'll come out with a lip kit, maybe.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we will see because now, you know, Meredith and Lisa were kind of on Angie's side.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Ashley's side sticking up for her.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: But and Meredith says, I don't believe anything that Whitney says.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: But Whitney is alleging that Ashley Quay, Kui, Quai, whatever, supposedly said Meredith is not the person that I knew years ago and said that now that she has seen that you know Meredith is different.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: That other side.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and Whitney is trying to say that Ashley said, I don't like the way Meredith operates in this group.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, speaking of Meredith, did you see that they solidified that it is a wig that Meredith is wearing?
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, because when they're getting ready, they showed whoever her team is to get her ready.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was just really non shot.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: But they're brushing out her wig.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: So now it was confirmed that it is a wig.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: We knew it had to be.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: We knew it was a wig.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: We all knew, but it's I would have liked to put a wig on today.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: My hair is a little crazy.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: I want a wig every day.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: It would be it would be good.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: I still can't get over Meredith's facelift.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's she looks great, almost too young.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: She looks great.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: She looks great.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um so it'll be interesting to see.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: So what should we make a prediction if um Ashley Quai is going to stay on the good side of Meredith and Lisa?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: No, she's gonna have a falling out with both of them at some point.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody has had a falling out.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: Even Lisa and Meredith have had a falling out with each other.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: So she will have a falling out.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's just a matter of time.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: And crossover worlds colliding.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: We like we said in our earlier episode, we saw Meredith on Jeff Lewis Live with Joey Zalzig.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: Meredith and Lisa are both on on Jeff Lewis Live a lot on Sirius XM, and Jeff Jeff loves them.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: So it's very interesting.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: And Heather, the thing about Heather is that she's kind of been considered like the narrator of the series and a favorite child and all that.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: But she, I think, is gonna have to like let this thing go with Lisa.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I've I'm worried that if Heather keeps pushing too hard, because same thing, crossing over to Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, on the trips, you know, I'm sure they were all not happy that Lisa Barlow was chosen as a cast member on Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip with Kyle Richards, Vicki Gumbelson, um Giselle from Potomac, Teresa, Luann, Portia, and Lisa Barlow, right?
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Is that everybody I think?
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, and so then when they went around to all the other cities, Heather was at the White Party, and then Heather was also at the finale.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: And if you haven't watched the finale episode of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trips, it's amazing because there's a bunch of them are all at Bluestone Manor at Durinda's.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: And Andy Cohen shows up, and Heather Gay is there.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's like Andy's in the middle, Heather's here, Lisa's here, and Heather is like going in on Lisa.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: And Andy's like kind of not having it.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: Andy's sitting there, like really like, and he literally says, I didn't come here for this.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like thinking to myself, this is might not be good for Heather.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: She should read the room, as we say.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, Lisa is well liked by Bravo.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: She wouldn't be Well, and and look at the cast they put together for that, though.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: Could you have seen Heather with that mix as much as you can see Lisa with that mix?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think Lisa's a much better fit for that mix.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: And Heather and Whitney did go on the Thailand season, right?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: Did you watch that one?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that came up in watch what happens live last night.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what did Heather say?
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: Because that is.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: Heather's like, no, I'm not.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you don't remember, I went to Thailand.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was on Ultimate Girls Trip in Thailand.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: So like I've had my time.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it's an underlying drama that's not really a drama.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Did you think that Heather on Watch What Happens Live was kind of laying off of um of Lisa?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: Was she going in on Lisa with the stuff or no?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: She no.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe she's picked up on that too.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: And you know how it is.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: They're always making up and and going back and forth.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: And her boyfriend was there.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, he was.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: What did Andy say about that?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: And she was, it was interesting because she was really careful.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: Well, they kind of showcased him the whole time and kept going.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: Because he was in the Oprah chair.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_02: He was in the Oprah chair.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: He was in the Oprah chair.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: And um, they kept going to him.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: And they got the full rundown on their relationship and how they met and how um, you know, for I think it's what'd she say, six years or something, he kept texting her for six years, even when she had cut him off.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: Apparently, he had a drinking problem.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because then Andy says, Well, how did you end up actually together?
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: And she said, Well, he quit drinking.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: He quit drinking and he made some changes, and my girls moved out.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_02: So it changed my life.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: And that can be very true about the girl, because she, you know, when you're a single mom, I or dad, I would imagine that you do obviously think, like, okay, how am I gonna die?
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think for as wild and crazy as Heather has gotten and kind of had to figure out her life and who she was and what she wanted for her life, she was always so conscientious and protective of her girls and protecting her girls from she does seem like a very good mom.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: And her girls for uh for everything that we see seem to be turning out wow.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: So that will be really interesting to see how all that plays out with the boyfriend and with with all of that.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm on the fence on the boyfriends too.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: It'll be interesting to watch that whole relationship play out.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: I know, and when she was saying in the episode that she could see herself like 50 years or whatever, that I'm like, God, you know, hey, I'm not inside her head, I'm not inside that relationship, but it's so funny because us as viewers, I think we're very protective over her.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like I just didn't But Andy asked her if she's in love.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: And she's her answer, she said, Well, we tell each other we love each other a hundred times a day.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: She said, Um, am I in love?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: But what is being in love?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: What is love?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: Do I see myself down the road with him?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: But she was very careful the way she was talking about him and kept looking at him to make sure that she didn't get it hurt his feelings, I guess.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's good.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder how he, you know, it's interesting for anybody to jump in and be in this whole craziness.
• 37:37
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• 37:40
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• 37:42
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• 37:43
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• 37:49
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• 38:18
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• 38:19
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