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Wayback Wednesday 7-15-22 #3 Paratruther -The demolition of the Devil’s monument - with Chris Graves & Mr. Anderson · The Arterburn Radio Transmission Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Former U.S.
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SPEAKER_01: Army paratrooper, historian, and conspiracy analyst.
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SPEAKER_01: Tony Hardenberg.
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SPEAKER_01: Joined by top researchers and gaps.
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SPEAKER_01: Exploring the depth of our hidden history.
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SPEAKER_01: Expose the crimes and cover-ups that plague our civilization and planet and patrol the borders of our reality.
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SPEAKER_01: Reality.
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SPEAKER_01: Reality.
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SPEAKER_01: From the parapolitical to the paranormal in the psychological war for your body, soul, and mind.
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SPEAKER_01: Be me, a paratrouter.
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SPEAKER_02: Maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.
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SPEAKER_02: Guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity.
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SPEAKER_02: Unite humanity with a living new language.
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SPEAKER_02: Rule passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason.
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SPEAKER_02: Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
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SPEAKER_02: Let all nations rule internally, resolving external disputes in a world court, avoid petty laws and useless officials.
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SPEAKER_02: Balance personal rights with social duties.
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SPEAKER_02: Be not a cancer on the earth.
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SPEAKER_02: Leave room for nature.
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SPEAKER_02: Leave room for nature.
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SPEAKER_02: This is Paratrouther, and I'm Tony Arderburn.
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SPEAKER_02: And those are the uh, well, what the former commandments on what was called America's Stonehenge, the the devil's tablets, also known as the Georgia Guide Stones.
1:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh, last week we did uh episode two of Paratrouther, myself and uh Chris Graves, and we um we're just happened to be on the day that someone, some entity somewhere decided it would be a good idea to detonate an explosive in front of the main monument.
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SPEAKER_02: And later that afternoon, strangely enough, as uh a lot of the crime scenes in America are now bulldozed over and control detonated afterwards, they got rid of the Georgia Guidestones uh with a construction crew.
2:23
SPEAKER_02: And uh what made me want to do this show, I mean, I talked about Georgia Guidestones for years.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, I mean, you go back through my history of my podcast, my radio show.
2:32
SPEAKER_02: I've got like three or four different titles where comparing things to the Georgia Guidestones.
2:37
SPEAKER_02: But I opened up my show last week uh talking about how the book Population Control uh by the late great Jim Mars, it came out in 2015, one of the books that changed the trajectory of my life.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: The opening paragraph, opening chapter, uh is about the Georgia Guidestones.
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SPEAKER_02: And of course, they were commissioned in 1979, a mysterious group um headed by a man known as R.
3:02
SPEAKER_02: C.
3:02
SPEAKER_02: Christian.
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SPEAKER_02: They raised half a million dollars in 1979, which is um a lot more than half a million dollars today, uh, if you know anything about inflation and loss of purchasing power in the dollar.
3:16
SPEAKER_02: And it was 42 years in existence uh on planet Earth till 7622 at 4:03 uh a.m.
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SPEAKER_02: in the morning Eastern time in 33 seconds.
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SPEAKER_02: So today I've got uh two fantastic guests, um, good friends of mine.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: I'll start by introducing uh the researcher, part of the three searchers, one of the main uh researchers and and uh forces behind uh the books and works of Donald Jeffries, and that is Chris Graves.
3:49
SPEAKER_02: He's back once again.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, welcome back to Paratrouther, Chris.
3:52
SPEAKER_04: Thanks, Tony.
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SPEAKER_04: It's always an honor to be with you.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: Well, great to have you, my friend.
3:57
SPEAKER_02: It's always a fun show when you're here.
3:59
SPEAKER_02: And uh, I'm sure you've got whenever I'm gonna do a show with Chris, I know I'm gonna get like 30 or 40 links texted to me, emailed to me.
4:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be showering.
4:06
SPEAKER_02: I have more links than I know what to do with, and uh, that's why I have him on to help me navigate it.
4:10
SPEAKER_02: And and um my other guest.
4:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's been a long time since he's been on the program.
4:16
SPEAKER_02: Actually, the last time that we spoke, we were uh what about a mile from Bill Cooper's home in Eager, Arizona?
4:24
SPEAKER_02: And of course, that is, and I have your I have an intro for you, uh my friend here.
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SPEAKER_02: We're gonna we're gonna play.
4:30
SPEAKER_02: This is the intro for our next guest.
4:34
SPEAKER_03: As you can see, we've had our eye on you for some time now, Mr.
4:38
SPEAKER_03: Anderson.
4:39
SPEAKER_03: Anderson, Mr.
4:40
SPEAKER_03: Anderson, Mr.
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SPEAKER_03: Anderson, Mr.
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SPEAKER_03: Anderson, Mr.
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SPEAKER_03: Anderson, Mr.
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SPEAKER_03: Anderson, Mr.
4:54
SPEAKER_03: Anderson.
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SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, it's it's Mr.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: Anderson.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: He's back uh on the program.
4:59
SPEAKER_02: Of course, he was on the Arterburn radio transmission with me back in November when we went to pay uh tribute to uh to the late great William Cooper on the anniversary of his being murdered by the police.
5:12
SPEAKER_02: And uh anyway, uh Mr.
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SPEAKER_02: Anderson has some links as well, and so he's gonna, I think it's gonna be a great show, a great conversation.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh welcome, welcome to the show.
5:22
SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Paratroother, Mr.
5:23
SPEAKER_02: Anderson.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thanks for inviting me back.
5:25
SPEAKER_00: It's a little disheartening every time someone says Mr.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: Anderson, it's a crazy man.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: You think a crazy woman would do it every now and then, but you know.
5:32
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry that when I first said hello, Mr.
5:34
SPEAKER_04: Anderson, I was doing that exact quote.
5:39
SPEAKER_02: That's that's exactly right.
5:41
SPEAKER_02: I said, This is this is what you if you do podcasting, this is what you need to call yourself.
5:45
SPEAKER_02: And uh it's worked out really well.
5:47
SPEAKER_02: And people were did you is that Mr.
5:49
SPEAKER_02: Anderson?
5:49
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Mr.
5:50
SPEAKER_02: Anderson is back.
5:51
SPEAKER_02: He he comes on.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm hoping I'm trying, you know, I've tried to pull him on multiple times, and uh he's always welcome.
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SPEAKER_02: He knows he's but he's very busy, he's got secret projects and all the things that he works on.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: So all right, Chris.
6:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it to you, my friend.
6:07
SPEAKER_02: I I I read the commandments from the former Georgia guide stones, there are no more, but I wanted to bring up uh as we start this conversation, and one of the reasons I threw this together is people have been talking about it for you know last couple weeks.
6:23
SPEAKER_02: Um and I'm sure there's a lot of great stuff on it, but the time capsule and this is you know, I'm gonna throw it to you, Chris.
6:32
SPEAKER_02: But you know, you sent me the link.
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SPEAKER_02: This is this is what got me.
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SPEAKER_02: There was supposed to be a time capsule placed underneath it, and they went to dig for it, and it's supposedly not there.
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SPEAKER_02: So I wanted to get your thoughts.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, overall, big picture about the Georgia guide stones, what they meant.
6:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is what Paratrooth is all about.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just a little bit of a dive.
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SPEAKER_02: So tell me what you think, my friend.
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SPEAKER_04: All right.
6:56
SPEAKER_04: Um, well, basically, Breitbart, yeah, Brake Breitbart goes into uh how the plaques, the site of the former granite monument, had writings on them, alleging that a time capsule lay six feet underneath.
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SPEAKER_04: Fox Five reported.
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SPEAKER_04: The writings also contained unfinished instructions on when to open the capsules reading to be opened on.
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SPEAKER_04: And then uh the crews with the Elbert County Road Department removed the plaque on Friday and excavated six feet below to see if the claims were true.
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SPEAKER_04: Claims turned out to be wrong.
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SPEAKER_04: Says uh even as crews started their excavation after removing the plaque, they noticed there was no prior sign of digging since Georgia red clay was quote unquote packed tightly at the bottom.
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SPEAKER_04: The star wrote, Once crews reach six feet, nothing was found.
7:47
SPEAKER_02: It's weird.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's what really got me interested in talking more about them.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: And they've always been, you know, in conspiracy research and alternative media, the Georgia guide stones have always been a hot topic because it's this mysterious group of people uh showing up in rural Georgia, and and then you know, again, you have these uh other players involved, and I think Mr.
8:08
SPEAKER_02: Anderson knows some key players and has done some research before, you know, before the show.
8:14
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, it's strange.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, you have uh half a million dollars being spent, uh, these custom you know monuments to the this new age of reason, uh telling the people to keep uh population under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature, which I had one of my uh audience members saying, well, it's it's not 95 percent per reduction in population if you go back to the 79, 1980 population, it's 88 percent.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, you know, because people talked about Ted Turner, you know, being involved in and possibly being involved in this, and and I don't know.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I think that he's from Georgia and he wants 95 less people, so it seemed right, you know, but I don't know.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: It's yeah the the the the date in which it was taken out on 7-6, you know, it's 42 years exactly, and and uh one of the reasons 1979 too.
9:10
SPEAKER_04: The curiosity about the year, yeah.
9:13
SPEAKER_02: The curiosity of 1979, whether you're talking about um silent weapons for quiet wars, the you know, the show that Chris and I did last week on that document that was found in an IBM copier in 1986, or you know, you have the start of Al-Qaeda, you have uh Tim Osmond, uh Saddam coming out of that.
9:31
SPEAKER_02: You have uh the beginnings of um in 1970.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: Of course, this is this is not the 79 show, but there's a so much that goes with that.
9:38
SPEAKER_04: And and you have uh the the West war with Islam and all the things Saddam Hussein putting in power, yes.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just a ton of stuff happening in 79 and uh uh and the beginning of this.
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: So uh yeah, just no no time capsule found, which I found it bizarre too, is that 1982 was supposedly the year that the monument was this updated?
10:08
SPEAKER_02: Is that what they're saying?
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SPEAKER_02: That the the quote about the time capsule was placed on there later.
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SPEAKER_02: Is that what I'm reading correctly?
10:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was on placed on later, which makes no sense to me.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the star noted that executives with the Elberton County Granite Association claimed that the plaque with the time capsule instructions was supposedly placed at the guidestones in 1982, which is after the granite monument was completed in 1980.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's this is bizarre.
10:39
SPEAKER_04: How do you put a time capsule underneath the site that is already finished two years prior?
10:44
SPEAKER_04: Makes no sense.
10:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, miss and Mr.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: Anderson add up.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: I want to ask you, uh, Mr.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: Anderson.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: I want to ask you, uh, you had mentioned something uh off air about ownership of the land, right?
10:57
SPEAKER_02: And I've always wondered about that.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, is it public land?
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SPEAKER_02: Did they how did they get this thing?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, in perpetuity, is it in a trust?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, is it something not tracking back to R.
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SPEAKER_02: C.
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SPEAKER_02: Christian in that group?
11:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh, what do you find?
11:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh there's a real good documentary I watched recently called Dark Clouds Over Eberton.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: The production quality is pretty shoddy.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: I think it was shot on a flip phone back in the day, but uh the quality of the information is really good.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: And so one of the people they interview in the film is this man named Wayne Molinix or something like that.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: I think it's M-U-L-L-E-N-X.
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SPEAKER_00: And he was in charge of the construction, and he actually owned the five acres that they sold to R.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: C.
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SPEAKER_00: Christian.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: And so they asked him about this, and he was well aware of the controversy surrounding the time capsule, and he wouldn't say yay or nay regarding it.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: He says, Oh, well, I guess you'll find out when the monuments are removed.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: But one of the funny things too is it says inscribed regarding the time capsule to be opened on blank.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, he was the one who originally owned the land and then he sold it to R.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: C.
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SPEAKER_00: Christian.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: He was a mason shriner, just like the guy who originally commissioned the bill, Joe Finley.
12:12
SPEAKER_00: And one of the um stipulations was his cattle could still use the land to help it keep being from overgrown.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: But when we were kind of laughing online, it didn't make much sense since R.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: C.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: Christian was such an environmentalist because you know, cow farts melt ice caps and things like that, but it was 1979 and uh they were worried about an ice age then.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: So cow farts were good.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, that's right.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think the land actually was transferred um to the county.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: And the people who were the ones who actually became the caretakers, there was this guy named Charlie Clamp, and he was the one who sandblasted the stone.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: And his son was the caretaker, I think, around the time this was documented.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: But one of the strange things about it is he told his friends, Charlie Clamp, when he was sandblasting these messages, which had to be transcribed, by the way, by somebody who was an ambassador to the UN.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: They had a connection there to, you know, the Sahili, the Hindi, and all the other uh languages that were on the four tablets.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, he said he heard strange music and disjointed voices.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm pretty sure that the the county was the one um maintaining the land after that.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that to me was uh a loophole.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that the whole thing.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, um, so according to that documentary, they do a really good job, in my opinion.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: And you can watch it for free on YouTube.
13:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's it's a little over two hours, but there's a lot of good information and a lot of good of good job um kind of tracing and following the facts.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: But the main contributing member was this guy named uh White.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: How do they get that to happen?
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SPEAKER_00: He was the president of the Granite City Bank at the time, and so you can't open a bank account and transfer close to half a million dollars in you know today's money under a pseudonym.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: So R.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: C.
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SPEAKER_00: Christian asked him if he would handle the escrow and he'd send him the finances that he needs to build these things.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: And he said, yes, but on only under one condition.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: I need to know who you are and who your family members are.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: So this guy, Wyatt Martin, like maintained correspondence with this R.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: C.
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SPEAKER_00: Christian character for a long time.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: And it actually came out in some Wired magazine article, I think it was 2009, but don't hold me to it, that this same Wyatt Martin kept all this correspondence in his old case for an IBM computer and had it in a shed.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: So in the documentary, they entered they interview this guy, and he's just you feel kind of bad for him because he's older, you know, God bless his soul.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: He's not all there, and you can kind of stroke his ego and get him to tell you things.
14:47
SPEAKER_00: And he he was talking about why it's a mystery, and he's like, Me in fact, it's a mystery.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: I will have people wondering who put them stones down.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: But, anyways, they get this guy to take them to the shed, pull out this case and open it up under the pretense maybe you forgot some important facts, you know, surrounding the history because White Martin was gonna write a book about it, but he hadn't opened up the case, according to him, for 15 years.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: So as he's reading all these things, they're looking at um the return addresses on the mail that was sent, and they trace it back to an address in Fort Dodge, Iowa.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: And it was um owned by this guy named Herbert H.
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SPEAKER_00: Kirsten.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: And Kirsten is actually a low German variant of Christian, and he was a very prominent physician, he had 12 patents, but he was known throughout the community for his racist beliefs.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: And he was one of those guys that go to the country club and just talk about population control, and he was actually friends with this Nobel Prize-winning physicist named William Shockley.
15:50
SPEAKER_00: And Shockley was the guy who invented the first transistor, which is the basic building block for all integrated circuits.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: And Shockley was well known for these same beliefs.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: He thought you should sterilize people that had an IQ less than 100.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: And so they end up going to Fort Dodge, Iowa.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: They visit the gravestone of this Kirsten guy, and it says he wanted to be remembered as a physician and conservationist.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: And he had written letters to the Miami Sun Centennial where the editor responded, where this guy praised David Duke.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: And he was just all about population control.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: But you know, Dr.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: Fauci came along eventually and said, Hey, Kirsten, hold my beer.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: But um, I think they did a really good job tracking it back down.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, you just have to watch the documentary.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: I think it's pretty conclusive evidence.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: And there was somebody else that was in the mix, um, and he was CO'd on some of the magazines that were in this IBM case, and the last name was Mr.
16:48
SPEAKER_00: Merriweather.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: And so there was a book that R.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: C.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: Christian wrote, I think, in 86, called Common Sense Renewed, which was a reference to Thomas Paine, who, you know, in his book Age of Region, showed that he had a huge uh problem with Christianity.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: But, anyways, they contacted the publisher of um this book, and they were like, Was it Robert Christian?
17:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, what was his real name?
17:14
SPEAKER_00: And they said it was Robert Merriman, and he also lived in Fort Dodge, I believe, and was a friend of this Kirsten guy.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: So they kind of tie everything up in this documentary.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: It's really Robert D.
17:24
SPEAKER_04: Christian.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:27
SPEAKER_02: Again, the that that doesn't explain everything, right?
17:32
SPEAKER_02: Like the uh the astrological placements and uh the time.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: Why, why that year?
17:38
SPEAKER_02: Why then and what what was what were they expecting?
17:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh on the surface it makes no sense.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: Like you are are this is a doomsday monument, 100%.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: This is not something to guide people, it's to it's to be a reference uh of rebuilding, it's build back better before that was coined.
18:00
SPEAKER_04: Well, I was able I was able to find a list of uh of eight conspiracy theories that are associated with the uh the Georgia Guide Stones.
18:08
SPEAKER_04: If you'd like to hear some of those, let's do it, knock it out.
18:11
SPEAKER_04: Okay, all right.
18:13
SPEAKER_04: Well, the first one goes uh the stones were meant to create a new world order.
18:18
SPEAKER_04: Some conspiracy theorists conclude that these stones were indeed to create a new, more enlightened, and well-rounded society, one that wouldn't succumb to overpopulation and stifling regulation.
18:31
SPEAKER_04: Uh, the other theory is that these stones are the workings of the antichrist.
18:37
SPEAKER_04: Many Christian groups have been noted as saying these guidestones represent a call to genocide and that they are the ten commandments of the antichrist.
18:46
SPEAKER_04: These conspiracies have led to at least three separate occasions of vandalism by religious groups, and the guide stones were meant to survive a global apocalypse, right?
18:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, but not tannerite or whatever it was, but not tannerite, yeah.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think that was more sophisticated than tannerite.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, honestly, I'm just yeah, I'm playing by looking at the blast, but no, go on, go on, Chris.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: I think I think that uh that theory seems to me the one that holds the most water.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like they're they were expecting something which I don't know.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: There's uh and I want to talk to you guys.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: There's a if you look into things like gematria or like adding up numerology and the number 42 and like 33 and 33, yeah, but 42, especially because it's how many years it was on the planet, right?
19:37
SPEAKER_04: Good point, yeah.
19:38
SPEAKER_04: Uh, it says the guide stones were meant to survive a global apocalypse.
19:42
SPEAKER_04: Some conspiracy theories had a date, October 3rd, 2014.
19:47
SPEAKER_04: It's worth noting that we are now a year and some months later, and we're still alive.
19:52
SPEAKER_04: This was in 2015, by the way.
19:55
SPEAKER_04: This was the date of the global apocalypse, and the stones were intended to aid survivors in regulating a new world.
20:04
SPEAKER_04: Then it says the stones call for a global government, and that's you know, basically uh one that ruled, they wanted a global government that would rule collectively across the world and handle any external issues in a world court.
20:21
SPEAKER_04: Then they also said the stones were designed for the worship of the sun and the devil.
20:27
SPEAKER_04: Local minister believed that since the stones lured many UFO enthusiasts, new age folk, and modern pagans, it must have been built as an intended gathering place to worship all things evil.
20:43
SPEAKER_04: Then it says the monument was built on a power nexus.
20:47
SPEAKER_04: This conspiracy theory claims that the Georgia Guide Stones were built on top of a large center of power.
20:53
SPEAKER_04: This core power that's hidden from the rest of the world is said to eventually be released at an unknown date and tackle the mess that our current world is in.
21:02
SPEAKER_04: Keep in mind, this is 2015, this article.
21:05
SPEAKER_04: Right.
21:06
SPEAKER_04: The stones are intended to convey psychic messages.
21:10
SPEAKER_04: The conspiracy tells visitors that they must point both arms at the monument, one palm up and one palm down, in order to receive psychic messages from the stones directly.
21:22
SPEAKER_04: Are you willing to give it a shot?
21:25
SPEAKER_04: And we only got a couple more here.
21:27
SPEAKER_04: The monument was built on a sacred place to Native Americans, which means one very crucial thing.
21:34
SPEAKER_04: The Hopi Indians in their ancient shamans say signs will foretell the time when the fifth world, a new age, will begin.
21:43
SPEAKER_04: This also means the end of our current world.
21:46
SPEAKER_04: Kind of like maybe a big reset, maybe.
21:49
SPEAKER_04: Um, ancient prophecies noted that when the stone tablets are returned to the center of the world, the new age will begin.
21:56
SPEAKER_04: Now the only question remains is Georgia truly at the Center of the world.
22:02
SPEAKER_04: There you have a few of the conspiracy theories surrounding the Georgia guide stones.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh, good, good work there, Chris.
22:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh again, can you guys hear any of that?
22:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're coming through loud and clear, my friend.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay, awesome, awesome.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: I um you know, again, I've referenced this many, many times on different broadcasts, and we always talk about it because the one thing that unites all the world's elite in philosophy uh is depopulation 100%.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: And across the board.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they if you be when you become a milli a billionaire or whatever happens, that they mail you your card, or do you have to what happens?
22:39
SPEAKER_02: Sterilization kit.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh uh, yeah, we forgot to tell you, and all in all your bank loans and everything are tied.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: There's this fine print that says you know you have to be for complete depopulation and um population control.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: And so it's whether you're talking about Bill Gates or Prince Philip or um Ted Turner, who supposedly, you know, was I mean, this is allegedly tied to the funding of these monuments.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh well, the monuments they're nowhere.
23:04
SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, uh again, I I think that it's all about depopulation, but this seems to me that they were built for um you know, and almost like a sh an enshrinement to a post-apocalyptic uh time time era.
23:23
SPEAKER_02: What do you guys think?
23:27
SPEAKER_04: Well, um, to me, the mysterious part about not only their demise, but they kind of just came came up out of nowhere, almost like overnight.
23:37
SPEAKER_04: And I'm actually shocked by how many people I bring up the Georgia guidestones to that don't even know they existed at all.
23:44
SPEAKER_04: I thought it was common knowledge, honestly.
23:47
SPEAKER_04: Not too many people actually know about those things.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, there was a lot of comments coming up on different parts of the web.
23:54
SPEAKER_02: Like, I can't believe these right-wing extremists or these people are white supremacists or blowing up monuments, it's just art, and then people were ridiculous.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the the tablet that they blew up was the Swahili Hindi one, they didn't blow up the one and um yeah, you know, associated with Israel or America or anything like that.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, wouldn't the white supremacists go after that one?
24:17
SPEAKER_04: I mean, with a rocket launcher, mind you, I've heard as well.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it it never added up to me.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: And like learning more about this guy who the documentary purports is R.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: C.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Christian, or at least part of him, this Dr.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: Kirsten, he was supposedly a Catholic, involved in the community, and had some weird ideas about population control.
24:40
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of the people in his church didn't like him because of you know how much he was a proponent of birth control, too.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: But he had a lot of money, he gave$400,000, I think, to the local church when he passed.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: So he had plenty of money from his patents and profession.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: But if you're a Christian, I mean, why do you need to come up with 10 new rules?
24:59
SPEAKER_00: Didn't like God already do that?
25:02
SPEAKER_00: And the other thing that stands out to me is the devil deer deals in secrecy, not God.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: So if you're proud of this, then why does it have to be handled in secret?
25:12
SPEAKER_00: It just doesn't make much sense.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: And the two things that stood out to me, because I was familiar with the guidestones, you know, in conversations with you, Tony, but didn't really do a deep dive into them.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: But definitely that number 42 has a lot of biblical connotations.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: And the other thing that came to my mind when one of the tablets with the the 10 guides was demolished, you know, was that's exactly what happened when Moses came down from Mount Sinai and he saw the golden calf.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: He smashed the tablets that were supposed to usher in this new covenant that they had.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: So I I almost leaned to the idea that this was kind of an inside job.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't think it was some wack-a-doodle who thought these guidestones were evil because they've been there for so long.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: And certainly a wack-a-doodle would know if they existed 42 years, they'd been there all that time in plain sight, and they could have done it.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: So I I I'm just not convinced it wasn't an inside job or symbolic because a lot of the secret societies and fraternities like to, you know, operate according to symbology as presented in the Bible.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: And that's what happened when the Ten Commandments were first brought down from the mountain.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: They were the tablets were smashed.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: So, what you're saying is that the kind of a reverse covenant of maybe a satanic antichrist type thing, like you guys were supposed to take this, take care of this for me.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: And it's almost like I'm smashing my covenant with you.
26:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you were supposed to make this happen.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: You had 42 years to to get it done.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: Is that what you're saying?
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh, that that's what came to my mind.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying I'm right.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: That's an interesting point.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean, and uh that's the the weird thing about all this, and especially I mean that that to me is the is the the weirdest part of all of this.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we don't I mean it was on George Bush's birthday, by the way.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh here's here's a couple yeah George W George W.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Bush's birthday, he was 76 on 7-6.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: He was also a member of Skull and Bones, which is the 322, the Lodge 322, there in at Yale.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna mention that, yeah.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and three and and and the monument was commissioned on 322.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: So some strange things, and then you get the number 42, and the number 42 in Gematria, like some of the words that equal um 42, like vaccine.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: 42.
27:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh the meaning of numbers uh in the Bible.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: This is off of uh Bible Study.org.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: In scripture, the meaning of 42 is derived from its direct connection to the coming antichrist.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: His evil efforts will last 42 months in the end time, and thus is firmly associated with him.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: And then the angel gave me a measuring rod like a staff, saying, Arise and measure the temple of God and the altar, and they shall trample upon the holy city for 42 months.
27:55
SPEAKER_02: Revelation 11, 2.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Revelation 13 states that the end time beast power will be so powerful that no one will be able to make war with him.
28:05
SPEAKER_02: He will speak boastful things and receive authority to do almost anything he wants for 42 months.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: 42, and this is interesting.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: 42 is made up of six and seven, showing a link between mankind and God's spirit, and link between the Antichrist and Jesus Christ.
28:25
SPEAKER_02: There's some weird um, and you know it's funny is I think uh I read so much history, and sometimes I wonder, I don't even know if sometimes the players that are carrying out the act of what they're doing know what they're right, like they're being directed um in this game, whatever this this challenge, this life, this all the the the the intricacies of meaning, right?
28:51
SPEAKER_02: That and not all of us are completely in charge.
28:53
SPEAKER_04: I think sometimes there's all the symbols they have associated with like NASA and stuff that they can't really explain to the public.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, it's like when you get people at the Super Bowl and or some of these big events and they're doing like Illuminati gestures and you know ritualistic, and you're like that guy's dumb as a post, he has no idea what, but somebody's directing the people, right?
29:14
SPEAKER_02: So something, something, an entity, and that's why I think all of this is I mean, it's spiritual.
29:19
SPEAKER_04: And um what do you think about you even had like the Sandy Hook choir of uh those kids that we still don't even know what their names were when they were at the Super Bowl a few months after Sandy Hook, and uh I forget the singer that maybe Beyonce, I could be wrong, and she was doing all kinds of the Illuminati uh symbols too, and I think some of the kids were even too.
29:41
SPEAKER_04: So it's all it's all weird, Johnny.
29:44
SPEAKER_04: It gives me nightmares.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: And you know what's interesting too.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: I was looking it up.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: So the day before the month's monument for global depopulation, and I mean, basically, the the stone hinge for the new world order was was the Georgia Guide Stones.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the day before this thing gets taken out of our present reality, they turn on the CERN headron collider.
30:08
SPEAKER_04: That's right, yeah.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: I forgot all about that.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: Did you did you read about that, Mr.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: Anderson?
30:14
SPEAKER_02: Did you know about the CERN being reactivated the day before?
30:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I did.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, we were actually supposed to have that uh in Texas back in the day.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the superconducting super collider.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was even like on episodes of Dallas.
30:30
SPEAKER_04: Yes, that was a pity.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: Right, a particle got loose.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thought it was all pretty silly because the politicians at the time were suggesting well, it's gonna create a mini black hole and swallow up the world.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, What's gonna do that in Switzerland now?
30:50
SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't you make a like to make a little bit of money before that happened?
30:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like the people the the scientists that uh developed the bomb in Los Alamos, right?
31:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh Jim Mars has talked about this many times, but uh a great many of the scientists who developed the first atomic weapon, the first fission bomb, said that uh they believed that there could be possible that once they set it off, the chain reaction would actually destroy the fabric of time and space.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: And they were like, but let's do it anyway.
31:20
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, let's see what happens, guys.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: They had a couple beers, let's see what happens.
31:25
SPEAKER_04: Never mind, take a chance.
31:26
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you're not living unless you take a chance.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: This just something weird.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: I I my thinking going back to this, and and it's almost like you know, and I I can't remember.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: I'll have to go back through the episode, but I think I even talked about the guidestones like when I was hosting for David Knight the day before on July 5th.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's like it's it was in my it's always in my mind, like as you can think about these, you know, again, it's it's it's a monument to the NWO, it's what you think of, you know, when you think of uh depopulation and uh a one-world totalitarian socialist government.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: That's what it comes to me anyway.
32:02
SPEAKER_02: And it's it's weird that they're gone, and it's weird that it didn't cause more of an uproar.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: It was it's strange.
32:12
SPEAKER_04: It kind of went out the way they came in mysteriously, you know.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and and then thinking about that Dr.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: Kirsten guy, the more and it like I said, it's a really good documentary, it's uh it's a little dry, but if you're interested in knowledge and information, it's really good.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: But the more you got to know about him towards the end, it just reminded me kind of of Dr.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: Strangelove.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he just seemed like that guy, but I was like, he could have made the first guide a little bit better because you remember when the nuclear bombs are you know headed to both countries, gonna blow up the world.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: He's talking about how they need to go underground, but they need to, you know, guide procreation, which is going to be a prodigious undertaking.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: So they need to select, you know, women based on their countenance and beauty, and you can't get tired of them, so you're gonna need like 20 in a rotation.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Carson had put that rule first.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think a lot more guys wouldn't have read like the the next nine.
33:09
SPEAKER_02: That's when they that's what he was talking about in Doctor Strangelove that they needed to do um build uh mine shafts or use old abandoned mine shafts for their new civilization.
33:19
SPEAKER_04: I think a lot of this ties into the possibility that it it's a part of the breakaway society that some some theorists think uh exists.
33:29
SPEAKER_04: They have all the real you know technology and we kind of get the scraps and everything.
33:33
SPEAKER_04: I think that I mean I can't really back it up, but I have a feeling it this ties into that concept somehow, like their own commandments, this other version of human beings that live among among us, but not really, you know, kind of like like the breakaway civilization, you know.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: Well, there was a I forget the name of the business, but it's in the same county, and they kept a lot of the correspondence associated with the erection of this monument.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: And there's one thing I had to write down because it was so bizarre how it was worded, and it read, uh, those who have guided this great mystery and have guarded the evolution of the human species are returning, it has begun.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: The keys are here and it's like human species and guiding evolution.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
34:23
SPEAKER_04: That is weird.
34:25
SPEAKER_04: Do I dare mention extraterrestrial?
34:29
SPEAKER_00: No, that's what it comes across as, right?
34:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you're you're speaking uh you know, as as you're not a part of it, exactly in another way, and and it talks about in Revelation about a great lie, and so I mean, I I like watching ancient aliens, it's just like junk, junk food TV for me, you know, like David Children, is it possible?
34:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, about everything.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, it's not possible.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: Is it possible for you to you know not drink before three o'clock in the afternoon, David?
34:59
SPEAKER_00: But um I I was always talking to my dad because he likes it, and I was just like, This is fun entertainment.
35:05
SPEAKER_00: I was like, but you gotta be at guard here a little bit.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what if we supposedly make contact with extraterrestrials?
35:12
SPEAKER_00: And they said, basically, what's being described here?
35:15
SPEAKER_00: We're the ones who guided your evolution.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: We've been watching you, we think you're intelligent enough to know the truth now.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's no religion, we were the ones in the stars, we were the angels.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, how many people would that fool who are Christians?
35:27
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that like a premise to the Arthur C.
35:29
SPEAKER_02: Clark uh childhood's end?
35:31
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that like where they get a vaccine and then the aliens reveal themselves?
35:39
SPEAKER_04: Well, when would we ever need a vaccine, Tony?
35:42
SPEAKER_02: Hey, it's safe and effective.
35:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, but it doesn't work, it's safe and but you need to take five of them.
35:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, they're just being deep.
35:59
SPEAKER_04: And then you got like the Pentagon coming out and admitting that this stuff actually does exist, as opposed to in the past, where you even mention you see a UFO, you get fired, you get ridicule, you call it a loon, you know.
36:12
SPEAKER_04: It all kind of seems like it's coming together in a very creepy way, and now these things get blown up.
36:18
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: It's it's just a a bizarre story, guys.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm glad we you're able to jump on and talk about it.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: I just think uh it just gets weirder.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: It's just it's just it's like uh the Georgia guide stones got blown up, and you know, um there those guidelines didn't work because you didn't build yours.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe that's how it works, maybe how like the vaccine, like the bar even better, yeah.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: Wasn't it wasn't referenced enough, wasn't um wasn't worshipped.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the weird astrological things uh to it as well, like you know, that it aligning for the solstice and winter and summer solstice and all that stuff.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that uh nothing wrong with that, by the way.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean in and of itself, I mean, uh every to me, everything is whether you're taught the occult just means hidden, by the way.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's occult is it means hidden uh or hidden from sight or whatever.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, it's all this is all God's calculations.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: All of this is God's.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, everything that we find out, everything we revealed is it's it's God's.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: But I I do think that you know, Mr.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: Anderson brought up the fact that evil has to hide behind something, right?
37:33
SPEAKER_02: It isn't something good, something wholesome, something right and true and beautiful is just the truth, is what it is.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: You don't have to hide behind intricate layers of of subterfuge and and skullduggery and everything else, right?
37:50
SPEAKER_02: And I think that's right, that's true.
37:53
SPEAKER_02: Like the the intelligence community.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's like how many layers of lies, and then you know, at the beginning at the entrance to the central intelligence agency, it quotes uh Matthew, you know, and the and the truths will set you free, which is bizarre.
38:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, so far from removing the polar opposite of how they operate.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: Well 100.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: And so, yeah, this the monuments being gone, there's no time capsule.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh, what were their again?
38:23
SPEAKER_02: You said it best, Chris, as mysteriously as they appeared, then they were gone.
38:27
SPEAKER_02: They lasted 42 years, 42 cycles.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, where the the monuments and myself are the same age, they almost the exact same age.
38:37
SPEAKER_04: Where were you that night?
38:39
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, you were doing a podcast with me.
38:41
SPEAKER_04: Never mind.
38:43
SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, yeah, it was early in the morning.
38:46
SPEAKER_05: Where was I?
38:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:50
SPEAKER_04: Well, there's a lot of people that are actually uh we go, you know, we were touching upon like the religious angle.
38:57
SPEAKER_04: A lot of people are not that sad that they're gone, to be honest.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: I I don't say look, I I'm pretty lenient on things, especially art, you know, and not I don't uh I don't like tearing things down.
39:10
SPEAKER_02: Like you look, that's uh very much like a a Taliban or a leftist, you know, kind of thing.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: Like in this country, we just tear they don't even know what they're tearing down.
39:19
SPEAKER_04: This is tearing it's like book burning, it's like it, you know, this stuff should be preserved, whether you agree with it or not.
39:27
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's history, you know.
39:29
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: And in in that line of logic, I don't want to just tear things down, but this this monument, I can't, I don't see anything redeeming in it.
39:43
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:44
SPEAKER_04: Well, that's the thing that's the population thing, yeah.
39:47
SPEAKER_04: Sorry, go on.
39:48
SPEAKER_00: No, I was just gonna say, I mean, a lot of them, the the guides, you can say, Oh, yeah, this one's about population control, this one's about eugenics, this one's about a new world language.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, think about the Tower of Babel, how God didn't like that.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: But some of them are like be in harmony with nature, and it's like, yeah, gonna have to real dig dig deep to make that one sound evil, you know.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: I I don't think they all sounded completely evil, but the ones at the very top certainly did, at least to me.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, the one at the very top cancels out everything else they said.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: Because fair enough.
40:23
SPEAKER_02: You have to start.
40:23
SPEAKER_02: What's what that's my point is you have to start from the premise that we have to eliminate the majority, and I mean the biggest, not 51%, 95%, at least, right?
40:35
SPEAKER_02: To get to a to get to where you can even be in perpetual balance with nature, you know, like this uh maintain humanity other under five.
40:44
SPEAKER_02: So it begins and it ends with two commandments to not be fruitful and multiply.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so exactly.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: It's the antithesis of the the Lord's commandment.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: And having a you know a large uh popular, you know, a thriving population.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: And the the what I read into the last you know part of this is be not a cancer on the earth.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: So you're you're starting also in with the premise here with that statement that mankind is not redeemable.
41:24
SPEAKER_02: Mankind is kind of like the AI tells Mr.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: Anderson and tells you know Morpheus in the Matrix that you're a virus, yeah.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: Right.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: So it's be not a cancer on the earth, and then it repeats twice to leave room for nature, which I find ironic because now the Georgia guide stones left room for nature, so you know we well.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: The the other thing that stood out to me was the word maintain.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: Okay, it doesn't talk about how you get there, right?
41:49
SPEAKER_00: So something cataclysmic happened for whatever reason, but how do you maintain it?
41:53
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, go to guide number two.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's it's very strange, and like I said, those seem very evil, and I guess they were like, Well, we gotta have 10 of them.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, so they they added some others.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, what do you guys think?
42:12
SPEAKER_00: Seem a little bit more harmless than the first three to me, but what do you what did you guys uh think of like the perpetrators?
42:21
SPEAKER_04: Because there's oddly there's very little, you know, information on suspects except for the video that was released showing a silver sedan leaving the uh the area.
42:32
SPEAKER_04: Like who do you guys actually think could have been behind it?
42:35
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I've heard like the most I've heard was uh religious fundamentalists.
42:41
SPEAKER_04: Um I guess that would make sense in some ways, I guess, you know, because all the satanic imagery and references.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: I I think the selection of which stone they blasted, I was real interested in that.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: It took me a while to uh track it down.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: But if it was somebody who was this crazy nationalist, yeah, you know, white right wing, white supremacist, uh you know, why didn't they go after the Hebrew one or something like that?
43:10
SPEAKER_00: They took out the Swahili and Hindi one, it just didn't make any sense to me.
43:14
SPEAKER_04: Um I think it's a good point, too, because no one talks no one talks about that aspect, the one that actually got taken out.
43:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, they just try maybe they didn't care which one they took out.
43:24
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it was the that was trying to place the explosive with the most damage, like to try to maybe put it into a a chain reaction to take out like a domino effect, yeah.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it seems like it only did catastrophic damage or it didn't do much damage to the other ones.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: Not from what I saw, but I mean it's all pretty granular.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: And how did they said they put up those, you know, um uh cameras and everything because people kept, you know, putting graffiti and pentagrams and things like that on them.
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SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like we invest in a little bit better resolution camera.
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SPEAKER_02: But that's all you didn't have anybody, you know, placing uh d and again, we do we d they tore down the crime scene.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean this isn't like uh the same day.
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SPEAKER_02: It was the same day?
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SPEAKER_02: It was the same day.
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SPEAKER_04: Even though Oklahoma City was like a month later and then Sandy Hook was like three months later, I didn't know it was the same day.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean really it's yeah it was it literally had the um excavators just pushing it down.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean I'm thinking well then who well then the the whoever's behind it uh whether it's the pseudonym you know Christian guy then they wanted it taken down then if that's the case that's the only thing I can think of yeah that's why I think it was an inside job if I had to guess one way or another.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe it maybe at this point you know you got to think okay let's talk about where this country was and where the world was in 1979.
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SPEAKER_02: This is pre-internet.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah okay and to be a conspiracy theorist was a small corner of you know what was accepted reality accepted narrative you had people you had great researchers by the way some of like the giants out there like Anthony Sutton uh you know the Bolsheviks and and the Wall Street Revolu you know the Wall Street and the Bolshevik Rev revolution you had uh Gary Allen none dare call it conspiracy you know you had a yeah uh there was a again it was it was a a profession but nowhere near in mainstream and now you're reaching um this you know quickening if you want to call it that where you have agenda 2030 agenda 21 the great reset and they come out and tell you but the giant backlash that's happened it's almost like they want to I mean they're erasing the internet right now guys they're erasing references and links and I mean scrubbing the internet of of things that were been out there for many many years.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah I know believe me I'm uh I I'm not trying to pat myself on the back but yeah I've I've been trying to find for Mr.
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SPEAKER_02: Jeffries uh ever since I've come to know him yeah and you're right on that they've been erasing and they haven't even really been that covert about it you know no erasing a lot of stuff they they haven't been covert and to me it's are they erasing their I mean when they place these monuments was they were there's a lot of expectations that they were going to inherit the earth maybe they don't have those expectations anymore well if that's the case then that would be a good thing right or do you think that they would just double down on their efforts next time to get rid of most of us well people understanding what the monuments are about and what the depopulation agenda is about and what all the new world order really is about like that that used to be a fringe thing yeah now you get mainline people talking about the new world order and it's not yeah it started out being like you know people like George H.W.
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SPEAKER_04: Bush and even you have Joe Biden talking Bill Clinton said that the new world order I mean Henry Kister I mean even Gorbachev I mean then I think Trump was a part of that uh mainstreamness of uh conspiracy in general like I I personally believe he was uh put into place just like all the rest only he was supposed to be the conspiracy theorist president you know and kind of tarnishing any kind of credibility that we may have had which was not really there anyway but what once they put him in he was able to get things like deep state you know to be an actual mainstream concept and word and phrase you know fake news fake news yep same thing when he took when he called when he's talked about uh rafael cruz Ted Cruz's dad you know when he shooting Kennedy he was live on air I remember watching that and he goes uh and where I'm just asking the question where was he you know during the death you know and I'm like oh man I mean that is uh yeah that is unprecedented that I mean somebody's it's you're you're accusing somebody's father of being connected to Lee Harvey Oswald Oswald yeah basically yeah yeah and I think right then and there they they were hoping that you know he would be the opposite of the hope and change crowd that he would be the oh the uh you know inner you know the middle america the Bible belt the conspiracy theorist you know oh this is a candidate that finally broke through broke through all the red tape uh of uh who's really running the show and I think someone pointed out that when Trump you know had his little meeting with Obama that was only supposed to be like a half an hour and it turned out to be like what an hour and a half and he comes out of the room and he looks gray and he looks all gray and like scared and everything and he goes yeah Obama he's a you know there's a lot I can learn from him as an advisor and oh uh the Clintons oh I'm not going after them you know they're they're decent people like changed his whole tune in that hour and a half complete about face they showed him probably the other films from Dealy Plaza that was an old Bill Hicks reference you know the film yep there was a there was a meme I saw and he was like sitting outside some room like the day he was being inaugurated and he looked real worried and it said uh the day they tell you the aliens are coming that too yeah Mr.
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SPEAKER_02: President just got what you're really gonna do any questions and and if that's the case then you know I mean he's worse than I thought I mean if yeah we we send young men and women off to die based on lies and to to to die horrible violent deaths getting hit with IEDs or sniper fire and yeah you know uh they're scared I've been one of them and then you tell me like somebody's a hero but they're also they are scared of some deep state degenerate showing you another film of somebody getting shot I mean I'd be the wrong guy or somebody like me to show that to but Tony you wouldn't be allowed to even get president I know you wouldn't even be like Jesse Ventura was saying I would be killed before I ever was able to be inaugurated you know I always think about my you know people like Andrew Jackson the one of the seventh presidents of the United States who you know they'd say get so angry so mad he's like a you know Scotch Irish just slobbering like just that's uh that's one of my heroes that's the way you should that's the way you got to treat the deep state you know yeah treat those satanic goblins with just some some rage and you know and somebody you'd be like hey well you know uh I'm living on borrowed time anyway a lot of you know those that's why the um you know the silent generation never had a a president it's the only generation of American history never produced a president and I I predict it will be two generations it will be the silent generation with that it was the the generation between what you call the greatest generation and the baby boomers they were then they were my favorite generation people that was like my grandparents you know and uh I think the other group will be us it'll be gen X but it won't be this it won't be the sticks and stones generation right because it's gonna go baby boomer yeah yeah it's gonna go bait it's gonna skip over X it's gonna baby boomer to to millennial yeah I don't know the future is very scary at the moment I hate saying that but well it is and I mean uh anybody talked about uh this was uh going around I saw this was funny uh because this is how the QAnon garbage you know comes out with with uh oh breaking news the CEO of Pfizer's gonna build the Georgia guide stones yeah I saw that too yeah and uh I had to read the article and it was like we have to rebuild it six months six days and six minutes from now that's right I thought it was an onion article uh but that me again but that's where you get those weird like you know people are like oh it's Pfizer's gonna rebuild it but is in you guys do you in your opinion will they rebuild it will somebody I mean can't they can it'll have to be somebody in the open you can't do it again you can't do it well Tony they tried to add to it years after it was built they were gonna add eight more structures around the perimeter in a circle and they go over this in the documentary um I I yeah can you go into that a little bit more because I tried to find more on that and couldn't sound like you actually did yeah I mean they pretty much lay it all out for you in this documentary it's really good but they were gonna add eight stone tablets and like a circular arrangement around the main structure and um they got a quote for it RC Christian and then it ended up being more than he was quoted for and he was trying to raise capital and going to lots of environmentalist groups and he's like this is too much money we're not doing it.
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SPEAKER_00: So they didn't even add on to it at the time a few years later so I don't know who's gonna pony up but I imagine if it was somebody it'd probably be someone unassociated with those who originally erected it.
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SPEAKER_00: But like if it was this Dr.
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SPEAKER_04: Kirsten guy he had plenty of money I mean like I said he donated 400 000 to the Catholic church and his local community when he died but maybe he was a penny pincher I don't know so I think if they do it'll be somebody outside of um the original group that erected the structure in 1980 that's just my opinion it'll be Joe Rogan I mean he just got what 100 million for strifing you're gonna do DMT there with Joe Rogan that's what I mean yeah Eddie Brown yeah the whole thing's weird I don't know what do you think it'll be I don't think it'll be in that spot uh I think it'll be kind of like a when people forget all about this and the dust settles I actually thought that maybe this was um a distraction from something else usually when these things happen like weird stuff or terrorist attacks or so-called terrorist attacks usually there's something else going on that's bigger that you know the powers that be don't want you to be paying attention to and I really couldn't find anything that was out of the ordinary that you know that day or that week but in the times that we're living now with you know pandemics and school shootings and insurrections I it's hard to tell I don't know what they you know what this could have been a distraction from but when you say an inside job I think the fact that they were taken down the same day they what they served their purpose somehow and they wanted them gone.
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SPEAKER_04: I you know that's all I can really say about that.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean the whole thing is just a head scratcher what do you think Tony Yeah it's like they they're almost like become obsolete yeah and maybe they're like hey that number of half you know half a billion um we're being too generous like Klaus Schwab needs it changed and you know they add three more zeros or mean take away three zeros it's like we only we only need so many you know uh people to hook up to you know the the Elon Musk's Neuralink you know we need so many so many droid slaves in the in the coming order and then well they didn't anticipate self checkout in 1980 you know right right self checkout you talk about dystopia uh that that's the most well self checkout is one of the most dystopic things I've ever seen you know like this part like where you you're like hey I I uh I didn't realize that I became the checkout clerk you know and like there's no person like and it's funny because they'll have a person standing there sometimes to tell you how to use it and that person's just like teaching you how to get rid of them which is yeah and that's what that reminds me of Disney Disney did in sourcing where they had workers from uh India come over and replace and be trained by the people they were being fired by Disney.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah and that seems to me like what all of this is with these depopulation enthusiasts which are the world's richest people again not a coincidence right it's not a I'm not a coincidence theorist the world's richest people they love communism because it destroys right they love uh they love totalitarian one world government because it destroys they love all these things you know like Bill Gates said if we do a really good job with vaccines and health care and reproduction health we can get that number down 15 he's talking about the world population which was really about a billion people yeah a really good job and that's what he's saying you know and it's it's just all of them whether you're talking about Prince Philip and you know he recently died um is he gonna come back as that virus he was saying he was like I will but I can contribute to population control come back as a deadly virus you know he's just the smug royal you know and it's all of them they're all the same it's uh George Carlin said it you know it's a big club and you ain't in it hey and you know what I'm wearing Mr.
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SPEAKER_04: Carlin's uh shirt that I uh I got when I saw him about a year before he died one of my heroes and you're right it's a big club and you ain't in it you ain't in it and we're definitely not in it so the you know my fear with this is that it it's some but I don't think it is an idiot that did it because they would already been caught right so they have other footage that they didn't show they have to they I mean they there's really bad foot in there like this this silver car or whatever but that's why I'm I'm leaning with Mr.
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SPEAKER_02: Anderson this seems it seems so inside job and it's like why what's the purpose what was there's was there about to be a story broken on where they go about to connect some dots something Tony the car had a moon roof what kind of white nationalist has a moon roof you give me a break uh I don't know you're spot you're not supposed to have a uh any kind of uh celestial state if you're a white well they say the moonroof was aligned to the North Star when he set the explosive up he's part of the vrill but seriously the car is a moonroof I'm like what what is this one Braun's grandson uh well well guys um it's an interesting subject I'm glad we did a little bit of a a dive on it because some things you know I you know what I'm I'm glad that there are mysteries in so many ways like I'm glad that there's mysteries and I'm glad that there's rabbit holes and and it challenges you to to think outside the box or to put yourself in the person's place who either built this or you know trying to like this good again like I say on my show all the time on the Arterburn radio transmission I'm like I I try to think like a a goblin like a globalist goblin you gotta you have to think of everything decent to the abyss long enough Tony yeah you gotta care for that so I I do I do because you know I was raised by if there ever was a candidate for sainthood that of somebody I knew that was my grandmother and I was raised by her and uh a true Christian I mean uh you know Frederick Nietzsche said that uh the last the only Christian died on the cross uh but he was wrong because I I know another one and I was raised by this that's my where I come from and so to think that's the thing is most normal people cannot fathom the amount of evil that exists in this existence that exists on this plane that exists in the hearts of of people the of men especially those who lust for power and greed and wealth and all this stuff right you know and absolute power absolute power it corrupts absolutely and I don't know I've just I I think about that I think about the mindset of the people that are pushing us into uh oblivion and it just it makes me wonder I again I don't I don't know um I I don't know but I have to I have to always try to put myself in their mindset to see where they're going.
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SPEAKER_02: And um this one is going to be a head scratcher like you said Chris I I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I just brought up a great point as well about how so many people even people I've spoken to are sort of interested in history had no idea not even inkling uh what the Georgia guide stones were or what the message that they conveyed was so I think people are starting to turn their head and say what was this thing and um I think that's a good thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Hidden in plain sight basically right yeah there's something to it and uh I you know we'll we'll we'll most likely learn more in the coming months years something else will will come of this it's not the last that we're gonna talk about the guide stones but uh definitely odd and uh definitely worth talking about and gentlemen I appreciate you uh you lending your your knowledge and your research and your expertise I want to make sure uh that uh Chris you go ahead and close and uh closing thoughts before we get out of here yeah no I um I think um you might be surprised we might not actually have too much that does get released about this this particular thing I just have a feeling and it adds to that mystery that you were talking about but it's just unfortunate that part of that mystery uh is you know the depopulation the scenario that's connected with it you know um you know real death and and all that but no it's always an honor to uh to talk to you Tony and I can't can't wait for uh the next few shows that we do um fascinating thank you for having me well thanks for being here brother and absolutely I've the uh the same sentiment um I can't wait to do we got a whole we got Chris and I have shows planned I hope Mr.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_02: Anderson will join us he's always welcome uh you know I I don't know why he hasn't done more shows since we went out to uh to eager Arizona but uh maybe this is the catalyst will that'll bring you back Mr.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_00: Anderson what do you say yeah no uh it was a pleasure getting to speak with you Chris I mean uh I I know a lot about your work with Don Jeffries and Tony is always speaking very highly of you I listened to the podcast y'all did last week so thanks for letting me tag along and hopefully I didn't interrupt too much and maybe I can have a better speaker next time.
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SPEAKER_00: I interrupted you sir a lot and I apologize.
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SPEAKER_00: No no it's uh it was great to be on Tony thanks for inviting me.
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