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Jay Campbell - Health Optimization Expert | Optimize Your Health with Therapeutic Peptides · Success Story with Scott Clary

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  Seven or eight years that I was living in Southern California,
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  I got back to playing competitive basketball.
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  I got kicked in the testicles playing an adult men's basketball league.
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  Eight weeks later, I started being able to run down.
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  I had like the levels of a geriatric.
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  29 years old, about to turn 30 and I had the testosterone levels of like 82.
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  Some people accept life as it is.
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  Jay Campbell rewrites the rules.
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  The oldest of nine siblings, Jay's journey took him through five high schools,
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  four states and college basketball.
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  But a freak injury at 29 changed everything.
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  It led him to therapeutic test testosterone,
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  sparking a decades-long mission in biohacking,
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  hormonal optimization and human performance.
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  Money is not in the cure.
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  The money is in the medicine.
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  They need people continually hooked on allopathic medications as they get older
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  so that they can continue to make money.
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  50% of men in the United States right now under the age of 25
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  have a testosterone deficiency.
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  The problem is most of these people have no idea.
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  Reason is very simple.
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  It's the environment.
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  We live in a contaminated world.
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  Before the world caught on, Jay was living it,
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  writing the TRT manual and the top Bible.
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  Now the go-to guys on the subject.
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  Today, after spiritual awakenings in Peru,
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  his mission is bigger, helping people optimize
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  not just their bodies, but their minds and souls.
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  Let's get into it.
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  I always tell people start low, go slow,
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  maintain the minimum effective dosage principle,
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  because that is going to allow you to live the longest and strongest
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  without any kind of risk to your own term health.
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  If people understood what a myocardial infarction or heart attack would cost them,
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  they would never not spend money on their health,
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  because one heart attack in 40,
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  the average person would cost them $400,000.
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  People don't understand this, dude,
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  but this is the system that we're in.
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  Welcome to Success Story.
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  I'm your host, Scott Clary.
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  Let's just start with your journey in health and wellness.
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  Ties it up perfect.
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  So talk to me about your origin story in health and wellness,
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  where you came from.
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  I know you were competitive bodybuilder,
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  physique champ,
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  obviously you care about health and wellness a lot.
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  Where this sort of,
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  this fire for this come from.
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  So basically,
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  just how do you do that?
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  You know,
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  you know,
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  so basically just a hundred thousand foot summary,
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  oldest and nine children played high school sports,
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  was very competitive,
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  played basketball in college at an NEIA,
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  which actually became division two before I left.
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  Georgia Southwestern University in America's Georgia,
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  very, very competitive player.
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  Got offered to play professionally
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  when I got out of school overseas in Austria.
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  Spend a couple of months playing,
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  and then my ankles were really bad from playing for so long.
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  And so I was just like, I'm done.
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  I came back to America.
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  Me and my best friend moved out.
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  I was living on the East Coast.
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  We moved out to Southern California.
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  And in the seven or eight years
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  that I was living in Southern California,
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  I got back to playing competitive basketball.
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  And at 29 years old,
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  I was living with my fiance,
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  at Pasadena, California.
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  I got kicked in the testicles,
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  playing an adult men's basketball league.
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  And six, eight weeks later,
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  I started being run down broken.
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  Like, what's going on?
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  All of me low back issues and pain.
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  I was working for the Los Angeles Times
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  of that time as an ad sales guy.
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  And I happened to just go to my PPO doctor.
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  And he recommended me,
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  I mean, again, as I like to say,
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  there's never a coincidence,
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  there's only synchronicities.
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  But he recommended me to an endocrinologist
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  who ended up happening to be
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  where I was living in Pasadena,
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  a world renowned Harvard trained guy
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  by the name of Dr. Raymond Scroggs.
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  Anyway, he saw me and he was like,
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  this isn't right, I'm going to measure your testosterone levels.
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  And he did.
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  And it came back and I had like the levels of a geriatric dude.
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  I mean, I was 29 years old about to turn 30
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  and I had the testosterone levels of like an 82-year-old.
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  It was like something back,
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  and back then testosterone rate was damaged there.
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  It could have been damaged from the kick.
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  It could have just been environmental.
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  I mean, there's a lot of things
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  that we could, you know,
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  hypothesize what caused it.
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  But at the end of the day,
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  he was like, look,
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  I can put you on a course of therapeutic testosterone
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  and have your writers reign in eight to ten weeks.
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  But before you decide, yes or no,
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  go home, talk to your fiance, wife to be,
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  you know, get her approval and everything.
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  And let's see what happens.
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  And so, of course, I did.
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  And, you know, my ex-wife shot out to Kelly,
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  who's long gone now.
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  She was like, you're a smart guy.
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  You know, we don't have kids or anything.
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  And, you know, we're good
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  where we are financially in the world.
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  Let's just see what happens.
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  So anyway, I did, dude.
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  And my life completely shifted.
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  Like, in eight weeks,
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  I went from having zero pain in my low back
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  to just having super energy,
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  massive vigor, my brain speed,
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  or clock speed seemed to improve.
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  So I went back to see him.
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  He was like, okay, well,
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  you know, we can take you off now
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  and put you on HCG or whatever.
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  And I was like, whoa, bro,
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  I'm not coming off this.
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  Like, this is life altering for me.
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  Like, I'm going to become a student of this.
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  I'm going to learn about this.
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  So, to fast forward the story,
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  over the next 10 years,
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  I just read everything as I could read about it,
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  voraciously.
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  But back then, this is a 1999-2000.
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  There was not a lot of information.
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  The only books were Nelson Virgo,
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  built the survive,
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  and Michael Mooney,
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  I have these inverted testosterone,
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  a man's guide,
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  and both of those guys have HIV.
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  And so they were writing about using therapeutic testosterone,
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  growth hormone,
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  other anabolic steroids to survive.
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  Because at that time,
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  HIV,
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  a lot of them were invented.
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  Like, a lot of anabolic steroids,
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  they're invented for people that were wasting away.
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  Exactly, wasting disease.
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  Yeah, correct.
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  And so,
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  at that time,
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  besides those guys' books,
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  there was a lot of studies in Russian and Bulgarian,
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  because the Russians had been using hormones on their athletes
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  because it wasn't a band.
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  Exactly.
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  And study it.
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  Even in the state, it wasn't band.
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  So it wasn't until the anabolic,
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  whatever was called substance abuse act
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  for Ben Johnson using steroids in the Olympics,
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  which I think was in 1992,
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  when they banned steroids
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  and made them control three substances in the United States.
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  So, you know, 70s and 80s
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  in the underground bodybuilding culture,
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  like the Arnold Schwarzenegger days,
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  Franco-Colomba and those guys,
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  those guys could legally procure them.
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  But then they outwalled them.
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  And so it just became this very weird,
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  navigable space,
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  where it was like, technically,
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  a doctor could write you a script for testosterone,
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  which is what I had,
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  but people would still look at you weird.
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  So, to fast forward,
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  what happened over the next 10 years,
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  I became this, like, just this,
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  I would just say,
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  super ambitious student of it.
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  And I obviously had a really amazing physique.
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  And so what I would meet people,
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  you know, in my social peer networks and stuff,
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  they would either say,
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  they would ask me,
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  how do I look so good?
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  And I would literally tell them right to the face,
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  I used to their peak testosterone.
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  And I would be met with either like,
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  steroids or,
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  wow, that's fascinating, tell me more.
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  So eventually, the fascinating,
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  tell me more people kind of went out and they were like,
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  bro, you got to write a book about this.
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  Like, you know, more about this than any doctor,
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  like, you got to put this information forward.
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  So at that time, my wife and I had a residential real estate company.
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  I was living in Southern California.
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  I was what, 40, 41 at the time.
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  And I was kind of like apprehensive,
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  because I knew it was still looked at as like,
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  an underground thing.
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  And the RT was not a thing.
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  No, it wasn't.
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  It was absolutely not a thing.
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  But you could get like I did and men did that, you know,
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  through, um, I don't know if you remember the guy,
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  Dr. Jeffrey life.
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  He was the old guy with abs.
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  They used to put in all the newspapers right back.
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  I don't remember him.
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  I mean, probably before my time.
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  Well, so, so it's so if you, if you read the newspapers,
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  like 15, 20 years ago,
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  they always had a picture of him on every major newspaper.
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  I would say, you know, it was like a picture of an old man with raps.
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  And it would always be like Dr. Life.
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  And it would be the anti-aging institute
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  and the life extension foundation.
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  And so those guys, those were the people
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  that were like promoting this.
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  And again, for me, I just happened to meet a doctor
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  who prescribed me testosterone
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  because he was a master of using it and stuff.
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  But anyway, fast forward to what I'm 41 now.
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  I sent an email to Rick Collins,
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  who's now a very close personal friend of mine
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  who happened to be like one of the world's leading attorneys
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  on performance enhancement.
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  He worked for like the WWF and EWWE
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  and major league baseball NFL football ball one.
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  And I asked him, I said, look,
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  what would happen if a non medically trained person
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  wrote a book on using therapeutic testosterone?
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  And amazingly, because the guy's amazing,
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  he literally, I was a nobody.
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  And he wrote me back right away.
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  And he said, well, I would first have to see what you wrote,
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  you know, before I could give you an answer,
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  but there would be risk, you know,
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  when he gave me the reason.
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  So I sent him my white paper
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  because I had a white paper about it.
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  And he came right back to me again and said,
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  wow, this is amazing.
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  He's like, but again, here's the risk.
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  And so he told me with the risk.
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  So I backed off because my wife and I
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  were doing really well in real estate.
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  And I didn't want to have any kind of unnecessary, you know,
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  eyes on me.
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  But I also sent it to Nelson Bergel
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  who wrote to testosterone a man's guide
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  and a couple of other leading people.
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  And three or four months later, I showed down,
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  you know, mentally, I got an email from Nelson
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  in the middle of the night.
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  And he was like, I don't know who you are,
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  but this is amazing.
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  And you need to write this book.
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  And so that I wrote him back.
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  And I said, look, I'm not going to do it now
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  because Rick Collins, and he's like, oh,
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  F Rick Collins, Rex, a friend of mine too.
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  He's just being an attorney.
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  He's been, yes, exactly.
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  He's like, I know he's like, I'm on FDA panels.
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  He's like, this information needs to get out into the world.
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  I'm glad to help you.
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  You're obviously very smart.
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  You understand this from a scientific level.
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  Let's do this.
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  So anyway, as I always say, standing on the shoulders of giants,
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  shout out to Nelson Bergel, he helped me write the book.
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  My first book came out in 2015.
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  It should have come out in 2014,
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  but we spent more time developing it,
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  getting more authority from doctors
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  who submitted and helped me write stuff
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  and make it more authoritative.
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  And so it came out in November of 2015.
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  And at that point, it blew up.
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  In fact, there's a lot of people
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  because it was Amazon.
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  It was when books on Amazon were blowing up.
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  And so one year later, Jeff Bezos
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  went from this scrawny guide to the beach.
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  So a lot of people were like, oh, he read your book
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  because your book's the number one book on Amazon.
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  So it's kind of funny.
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  We always made a joke about that.
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  But from that moment forward, I'd say 2016, 2017,
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  I started meeting people.
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  I went to doctors conferences.
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  I started lecturing.
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  I wrote, you know, five or six other books.
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  Just like leaned in the human optimism.
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  Completely leaned into it.
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  I mean, I was always doing underground,
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  but I was just a corporate wage-flage guy, right?
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  So I wasn't like doing this,
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  but I started making the rounds.
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  Our real estate business afforded us the luxury to travel
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  and to go to these things and stuff like that.
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  And then, you know, I met the right people,
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  wrote the right amount of books.
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  And here we are today.
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  What's interesting is that, like, on all these,
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  because now a lot of these substances,
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  before TRT was popular,
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  now there's so many studies showing that, like, listen,
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  as you age, testosterone goes down
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  and to live a healthy life.
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  We're not talking about using a dose.
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  It turns you into a bodybuilder.
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  But just to live a healthy life,
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  it's good to maintain it.
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  Now, TRT has like lost its caboo, right?
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  The longest time,
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  hey, listen, I think you were in the health of fitness
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  before I was even in the health of fitness.
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  But all the research and the support and the experience,
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  it was all, none of it was like a peer review.
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  None of it was from doctors.
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  There's a couple of doctors that studied it.
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  Then they studied bodybuilding and nutrition and drugs.
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  But it was kind of like, you know,
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  in these forums,
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  in the darkest places of the internet,
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  where you had to learn about this stuff.
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  And I felt like, I felt like I still feel this.
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  I feel like doctors, they have,
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  they do have your interest in mind,
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  but they don't go outside of their training.
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  They try and help you live your best life.
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  And it's not just about testosterone.
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  It's about, it's about peptides.
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  It's about nutrition.
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  It's about literally everything.
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  It's all, what is it?
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  They call it like sick care and not healthcare, right?
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  Yeah.
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  So I think that this now we're in an age,
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  hopefully, where medical professionals are going to focus on
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  not just sick care, but optimization.
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  That's a higher percent.
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  That's what it has.
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  Life, you know, feel alive,
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  feel cognitively present.
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  Like you mentioned, you think quicker,
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  you look better, you can play with your kids,
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  you know, you're not,
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  you're not dying at 60-70, right?
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  You still have a good sex drive as a man.
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  And I'm sure there's a whole bunch of other things
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  you have to optimize as a woman too.
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  Like, this is what doctors should be focused on.
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  Helping people live their best life and be healthy
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  because I actually do believe that if you optimize properly,
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  then a lot of the disease and a lot of the things
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  are natural put in air quotes part of aging.
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  I don't think they affect you as much or as early.
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  It's 100% true.
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  We could kind of just like put the dichotomy or just
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  the line of the bifurcation is people either choose their, you know,
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  sick care doctor, which is their, you know,
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  the PPO doctor or the HMO doctor,
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  depending on their business.
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  And then their mind is like, this is my co-payment
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  and this is my medical treatment.
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  Or you can be like, what I teach, which is like,
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  if you can't afford to spend $5 to $10,000
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  on your personal health over here,
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  you have your priorities out of whack.
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  Because even a $40 to $50,000 a year, you know,
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  blue collar earner can come up with that money.
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  It's just they have to like, again,
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  allocate resources effectively, you know,
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  not waste money on beer and lattes
• 15:17
  and all these things that they throw away.
• 15:19
  But so that's kind of what I teach.
• 15:20
  And so it's 100% true.
• 15:21
  But going back to medicine, you know,
• 15:24
  I always like to say what Chris Rock said,
• 15:26
  the money is not in the cure.
• 15:27
  The money is in the medicine.
• 15:28
  They need people continually hooked
• 15:31
  on alipathy medications as they get older
• 15:34
  so that they can continue to make money.
• 15:35
  I mean, if you look at the industry as it is today,
• 15:38
  it's insane.
• 15:39
  But like the average boomer runs out of money
• 15:43
  at 66 to 68, then faces medical bankruptcy
• 15:47
  and then dies within the next 12 months to two years
• 15:49
  because they don't have the money to take the pills
• 15:51
  that they've been on for 15 years through their insurance.
• 15:54
  So it's a nightmare, but you know,
• 15:55
  obviously we are talking about here today
• 15:58
  like how you don't have to be connected to that system
• 16:00
  and how you can live again
• 16:02
  what I call sovereign empowered free life
• 16:04
  where you are in control of your personal health.
• 16:06
  So when you think about optimization,
• 16:08
  so look, the first stab at optimization
• 16:10
  from men in particular would be testosterone.
• 16:12
  So I was, how is human optimization sort of evolved?
• 16:16
  I mean, it's a great question.
• 16:17
  I mean, you know, going back to when I was first on testosterone,
• 16:20
  like you said, it was a taboo thing.
• 16:21
  You didn't talk to people about it.
• 16:23
  TRT was not recommended.
• 16:24
  It wasn't, you know, technically even understood to be legal.
• 16:27
  Whereas now, I mean, there's a clinic on every corner
• 16:30
  in every major city.
• 16:31
  But here's the problem, Scott.
• 16:33
  The problem is, is that it's become a money ground.
• 16:36
  And a lot of the TRT clinics, I call them windmill clinics,
• 16:40
  are not about the patient's health, they're about making money.
• 16:43
  And it's become more like medicine.
• 16:45
  So unfortunately, you have a lot of men.
• 16:47
  Women do just as well on therapeutic hormones,
• 16:50
  who are not getting the treatment that they ultimately would like to have
• 16:54
  because it's based on making money, you know,
• 16:56
  collecting, if it's possible, it's rarely,
• 16:59
  if they're really smart, they can't collect insurance.
• 17:01
  But it's really about like finding and following the algorithm
• 17:05
  to make money, you know, to scale that business
• 17:08
  or that brand versus personalized care and concern
• 17:12
  for that individual patient.
• 17:13
  So what is that?
• 17:14
  Okay, so, I mean, capitalism exists and people
• 17:17
  are always trying to make money.
• 17:18
  So just like to stick on that sort of first version of optimizations.
• 17:22
  I think that's still a topic people really care about
• 17:24
  and I'm trying to figure out and navigate.
• 17:26
  So, I mean, you probably know the gamut of different hormones
• 17:31
  and different things that are not peptides.
• 17:33
  So in terms of testosterone,
• 17:36
  what is, I mean, can you make recommendations
• 17:40
  because you're not a, like, how do you say, like,
• 17:42
  okay, so I, because I don't want to get you into,
• 17:43
  yeah, no, no, no, I do.
• 17:45
  I mean, so I mean, I have like, I want to understand
• 17:47
  to say like, I'm a man.
• 17:48
  I'm, you know, I'm 40, 45, 50.
• 17:53
  What should I be looking for?
• 17:54
  What are the, or when do I start?
• 17:56
  Really?
• 17:56
  Yeah, so I mean, honestly, dude, like,
• 17:58
  this is how bad the environment is.
• 17:59
  At 20, you need to take your blood, get your blood work.
• 18:02
  Kids 18 to 19 to 20 have no testosterone.
• 18:05
  Why?
• 18:05
  That says the environment is completely contaminated.
• 18:08
  From the blue light to playing video games,
• 18:12
  to the contaminated environment, air, water, food,
• 18:15
  everything is contaminated.
• 18:16
  There's phytoestrogens, xenoestrogens,
• 18:19
  endocrine-destroping chemicals.
• 18:20
  They're everywhere.
• 18:21
  They've leached out into the bloodstream,
• 18:23
  I mean, into the water supply.
• 18:24
  They're in our blood.
• 18:25
  I mean, it's so difficult to navigate and maneuver
• 18:28
  in modern day, in modern day,
• 18:30
  first world society, that you can't avoid
• 18:32
  all of these harmful contaminants.
• 18:34
  So, so 20 year old, dude,
• 18:36
  test them, that one is the Julian King,
• 18:38
  when I'm telling you this,
• 18:39
  I would say that 50% of men in the United States,
• 18:42
  right now, under the age of 25,
• 18:43
  have a testosterone deficiency.
• 18:45
  50%.
• 18:46
  You get into 35 to 40,
• 18:48
  and you're now in 60 to 65%.
• 18:50
  And as soon as you get into 45 and 50,
• 18:52
  and older, you're at 75% in the population.
• 18:54
  The problem is most of these people have no idea,
• 18:57
  because if they don't know somebody like you or me,
• 18:59
  or they're not connected to people that actually
• 19:01
  teach them to get their labs done,
• 19:03
  and their blood work and biomarkers measured,
• 19:05
  they have no earthly idea.
• 19:06
  But I mean, again, look around in society.
• 19:08
  You have so many low testosterone,
• 19:13
  anthropomorphically like caring, feminized bodies,
• 19:17
  and body fat levels.
• 19:18
  I mean, again, body fat obesity is through the roof,
• 19:21
  inflammation is through the roof.
• 19:23
  And all of this really stems from a lack of proper hormones.
• 19:27
  And again, the reason is very simple.
• 19:29
  It's the environment that we live in a contaminated world.
• 19:33
  I thought, I don't disagree with you.
• 19:35
  I think that people are, their health is not good.
• 19:39
  The average person is not in shape.
• 19:43
  And I know you see those pictures of 20 year olds,
• 19:47
  like 50 years ago, and everybody's like,
• 19:49
  listen, they're not bodybuild, but they're all fit as hell.
• 19:52
  And I thought it was a mixture of like bad food.
• 19:56
  That's part of it.
• 19:56
  It's, but I didn't think I've never heard somebody say
• 20:00
  that a 20 year old will still have low testosterone
• 20:02
  in 2025.
• 20:03
  Dude, it's unbelievable.
• 20:04
  I mean, if you talk to doctors or actually specialists
• 20:07
  in this field right now, they'll tell you
• 20:08
  that every single day, they have,
• 20:10
  you know what you don't know, I mean, doctors,
• 20:12
  the average GP will look at a low testosterone level
• 20:16
  and say you're fine.
• 20:17
  Oh, you're fine.
• 20:18
  No problem.
• 20:18
  Yep, send you home.
• 20:19
  And remember, to their credit,
• 20:22
  they don't have any schooling.
• 20:25
  There is no standard of patient care
• 20:28
  that they learned in medical school
• 20:29
  about hormone optimization.
• 20:31
  Because again, why would alopathic medicine
• 20:34
  want people to not be on meds instead of hormones?
• 20:38
  Because if they optimize their hormones,
• 20:39
  they're not going to be on SSRIs.
• 20:40
  You're not going to be on all these other things
• 20:42
  that they take that they make money off of.
• 20:44
  So it's real simple to understand it.
• 20:46
  So for a 20 year old,
• 20:47
  going back to even earlier than I thought,
• 20:50
  for a 20 year old,
• 20:51
  all right, what's the signal that your hormones aren't optimized?
• 20:55
  Is it like sex drive?
• 20:56
  Is it depression?
• 20:57
  Is it?
• 20:58
  All is it?
• 20:58
  It's mostly cognitive.
• 21:00
  So it's a great question to some people
• 21:02
  and really understand this.
• 21:02
  So the first line of symptomology
• 21:07
  when you have a deficiency
• 21:08
  in both men and women is cognitive decline.
• 21:11
  Depression cubs next.
• 21:13
  A lack of, you know,
• 21:14
  a lack of energy, a lack of drive to do anything.
• 21:17
  I mean, again, look at kids today.
• 21:19
  They're not active.
• 21:20
  They sit around and they play video games.
• 21:22
  Video games and porn,
• 21:25
  if I put two things,
• 21:26
  are rewiring dopaminergic signaling pathways?
• 21:29
  I believe that.
• 21:30
  Yeah, right.
• 21:31
  Because pleasure reward is simple.
• 21:32
  You don't have to earn pleasure
• 21:34
  by courting a woman or courting your boyfriend
• 21:37
  or your girlfriend or whatever it is in society.
• 21:40
  So it just becomes simple to jerk off three or four times a day.
• 21:43
  You got addicted to it.
• 21:44
  Exactly.
• 21:44
  Or to play video games
• 21:45
  and to have all of your life being lived through the cloud.
• 21:48
  You know, so that's rewiring brain.
• 21:50
  So that that bottoms testosterone immediately.
• 21:53
  So like when most doctors,
• 21:54
  you know, friends of mine and stuff that I talk to
• 21:57
  about talk about seeing young people come in.
• 21:59
  And a lot of times they're parents from bringing them in.
• 22:01
  They're like, look, we need to get your their labs done
• 22:03
  because they have no motivation.
• 22:04
  They don't listen to us.
• 22:05
  It won't date.
• 22:06
  It won't play sports.
• 22:07
  They don't go out of law.
• 22:08
  And so once they evaluate these people's biomarkers,
• 22:11
  they see a testosterone,
• 22:12
  a free testosterone level.
• 22:13
  It's like at the floor.
• 22:15
  What's at floor?
• 22:15
  Like 100, 200?
• 22:17
  Well, so, so tell me again,
• 22:19
  there's various labs of measure.
• 22:21
  But like if we're looking at lab core per quest,
• 22:23
  which are the two biggest ones in the United States,
• 22:25
  yeah, you're looking at like less than 100.
• 22:27
  You're looking at people with total testosterone
• 22:29
  between 60 and 90 and free testosterone.
• 22:31
  It's like two is that's insane.
• 22:35
  Is there?
• 22:36
  So like all the traditional advice about how to increase testosterone.
• 22:39
  So clean up your diet.
• 22:40
  Be more active.
• 22:41
  Lift more.
• 22:43
  Obviously, I mean, you're not watching porn,
• 22:46
  you know, three, four times a day.
• 22:48
  You're not playing video games non-stop.
• 22:51
  Out the things that impact testosterone,
• 22:54
  you're talking about environmental,
• 22:55
  but also the actions that you take.
• 22:57
  So if you, if a, if a young guy,
• 23:00
  and I don't know, I don't know how to optimize women's hormones,
• 23:02
  they're just thinking about like my own experience.
• 23:04
  So a young guy lifts,
• 23:06
  you know, goes for a run, each healthy,
• 23:08
  isn't doing all the other shit that he shouldn't be doing.
• 23:11
  Can you sort of rehab your testosterone levels
• 23:13
  naturally to a degree or are environmental factors,
• 23:16
  the foods that we eat,
• 23:17
  the chemicals and everything that we consume,
• 23:20
  is it just too detrimental to really make it there?
• 23:23
  So great question.
• 23:24
  It comes down to your genetics.
• 23:26
  You know, if you do all the right things,
• 23:27
  if you live an insulin controlled life,
• 23:29
  if you train, if you eat enough protein,
• 23:32
  if you get six to eight hours of proper sleep a night,
• 23:34
  you do all the things to insulate yourself.
• 23:36
  It comes down to whether you're,
• 23:37
  it comes down to your genetics,
• 23:39
  whether you can be optimized.
• 23:40
  But I would tell you that it's probably,
• 23:43
  and I have a really smart doctor,
• 23:45
  a friend that talks about this and he quantifies the levels of guys.
• 23:48
  It's under 15% of men.
• 23:49
  At all age,
• 23:50
  we're actually starting you a soft pill back.
• 23:52
  It's almost impossible.
• 23:53
  Yeah, yeah.
• 23:54
  Okay, because then you say you bought into the idea
• 23:57
  of some sort of therapeutic dose of testosterone.
• 24:01
  So the two sort of bigger issues that people keep bringing up
• 24:04
  is one, you're going to be shut down for life.
• 24:06
  And the second thing is that it stops you from having kids
• 24:10
  because it acts as what's the word I'm thinking of.
• 24:13
  It acts as a contraceptive.
• 24:15
  Yeah, so is that is that true?
• 24:17
  It's not true.
• 24:18
  So if somebody wants to hold ends to this
• 24:21
  and they want to get testosterone.
• 24:22
  Yeah, yeah, so this is a great question.
• 24:24
  I'm glad you asked.
• 24:24
  No one's ever asked me this.
• 24:25
  So the truth is is that if you use therapeutic testosterone
• 24:29
  in your 20s or 30s during normal fertility times,
• 24:32
  you have to use what are called FSH and LH,
• 24:36
  which is follicle simulating hormone
• 24:38
  and luteinizing hormone,
• 24:39
  mimetics, which would just be other drugs
• 24:42
  to increase and make sure you have modal sperm.
• 24:45
  So you could absolutely use therapeutic testosterone
• 24:48
  along with those other drugs.
• 24:49
  And there's numerous ones.
• 24:50
  There's like five or six that you can use.
• 24:52
  Some of them are injectable.
• 24:53
  Some of them are oral tablets or capsules.
• 24:56
  But you could absolutely maintain fertility.
• 24:58
  So there's no like, you know, and again, as you said,
• 25:01
  like the taboo of this back in the day
• 25:03
  that this wasn't understood as well as it's understood now.
• 25:06
  But you can absolutely maintain fertility.
• 25:08
  And so I always tell guys like, you know, you have to choose
• 25:12
  because it will shut down your body's natural production.
• 25:15
  But as far as like how much will it shut down
• 25:18
  from a therapeutic level versus like, you know,
• 25:20
  super physiological levels that bodybuilders will take,
• 25:23
  it's nowhere close.
• 25:24
  In fact, most guys who've never done anything
• 25:27
  to restore luteinizing hormone or FSH
• 25:29
  and have been say on therapeutic testosterone for a decade
• 25:31
  can come off and in six months have the sperm restored.
• 25:35
  So it's a lot, there's a lot of misinformation,
• 25:37
  I would say online about like being shut down completely.
• 25:40
  But it's always a good idea and always tell people this
• 25:43
  that if you're going to go on therapeutic testosterone
• 25:45
  whether you're 23s or 40s,
• 25:47
  if you want to be ultimately sure,
• 25:49
  get a measured sperm count done first
• 25:51
  because it can freeze your sperm.
• 25:53
  Okay.
• 25:54
  In a worst case scenario that you can't maintain fertility
• 25:57
  because again, the environment is getting worse
• 25:59
  and worse and worse.
• 26:00
  We have the lowest birth rate right now.
• 26:02
  All these men and women are on fertility medications
• 26:04
  in their 30s and 40s because I can't get pregnant.
• 26:06
  Again, environmental factors.
• 26:08
  That's the first thing to do
• 26:09
  is to get a measured sperm count, get some sperm frozen.
• 26:12
  But again, for most men, they can use my preferred drugs
• 26:16
  are HCG, which is human-chorianic antitropin,
• 26:19
  and HMG, which is human-metaposalodontropin
• 26:21
  along with therapeutic testosterone.
• 26:24
  And you should be able to maintain fertility.
• 26:25
  What are the, and out of all the companies that offer this
• 26:29
  because I know like now the big ones are like the hymns
• 26:31
  of the world until like that.
• 26:33
  Yeah.
• 26:34
  What are the, what should you look for
• 26:36
  when you're looking to work with a company?
• 26:38
  It's a great question.
• 26:39
  You should not work with any of those companies.
• 26:41
  And this gets back to the AI.
• 26:43
  All those companies are not, they're not public,
• 26:46
  but a lot of them intend to go public.
• 26:48
  And so they're literally based on a, you know,
• 26:51
  a shareholder model.
• 26:52
  And so it's all based on an algorithm.
• 26:53
  So you're not going to get personalized
• 26:56
  one-on-one individual healthcare from a doctor.
• 26:58
  You're going to end up talking to an NP,
• 27:00
  which is a nurse practitioner or a PA,
• 27:02
  which is a physician's assistant.
• 27:03
  And so you're never going to get that feeling
• 27:05
  like all I'm talking to the doctor and the doctor gets me
• 27:07
  and he really feels cares about me, right?
• 27:09
  So you're just going to be, you're part of the machine.
• 27:12
  You're just literally in the machine.
• 27:13
  So what you want to look for is wherever you are
• 27:16
  in the United States, and the good news is
• 27:17
  is that you can work with pretty much anyone
• 27:19
  via telemedicine, right?
• 27:20
  Like I have an awesome clinic here in Miami called Men's MHI.
• 27:26
  And I love those guys.
• 27:27
  They have two doctors.
• 27:28
  There's two brothers that run your clinic.
• 27:30
  I send a lot of the people.
• 27:31
  I refer tons of people there to them.
• 27:33
  But the answer is that you're not going to be like
• 27:36
  just a cog in their machine.
• 27:37
  Exactly. Personalized.
• 27:39
  The answer is you want to make sure, as a man or woman,
• 27:42
  when you're going to get hormonally optimized it,
• 27:44
  you're working with a doctor that has the minimal
• 27:46
  of 10 years of experiential body of work.
• 27:48
  And what I mean by that is they've been optimizing male
• 27:50
  and female hormones for 10 years at a minimum.
• 27:52
  And there's plenty of them out there now.
• 27:54
  You don't want to go down to your local clinic on the,
• 27:56
  you know, on the, on the corner that is SE found at SEO ad
• 28:00
  that says we do everything for 199 a month.
• 28:02
  Because what those guys end up doing is they just value
• 28:05
  ad you to death.
• 28:06
  And before you know it, your, your bills, 999 a month,
• 28:08
  and you don't even know what you're paying for.
• 28:10
  They don't have any, they don't give a shit
• 28:12
  about your particular serpent said,
• 28:13
  literally just like, how do we do as many of these?
• 28:16
  Exactly.
• 28:17
  It's all cookie cutter board boil and plate templates.
• 28:19
  And the problem with those guys is,
• 28:21
  is, and this is what I always talk about,
• 28:22
  whenever you start their predictive testosterone
• 28:25
  or optimizing hormones, you really want to see
• 28:27
  what testosterone does in isolation.
• 28:29
  And those companies are adding this and this and this and this
• 28:33
  and this on top of your regimen.
• 28:35
  And so like in three months or in four weeks,
• 28:37
  how the hell are you going to know what's doing?
• 28:39
  What in your body?
• 28:40
  You can't tell.
• 28:40
  You have no way to know.
• 28:41
  So that's why all of these people who go down that path
• 28:44
  end up getting really effed up.
• 28:47
  And the best doctors will tell you that their primary job
• 28:50
  is on effing the people who go to these windmill clinics
• 28:54
  who get whacked out.
• 28:55
  So that's when it ends up happening with a lot of people
• 28:57
  in the United States.
• 28:58
  I told you at the beginning of the show
• 28:59
  that like hormone optimizations become a money grab.
• 29:03
  And so you have to really be cognizant
• 29:05
  of what you're looking for when you start with somebody.
• 29:08
  So if you, if you have researched this a little bit,
• 29:11
  you start to realize pretty quick
• 29:12
  that there's a whole bunch of different kinds of testosterone
• 29:14
  that you can use.
• 29:17
  What would be the one that you think people should be recommending
• 29:21
  in like the most generalized sense?
• 29:23
  And also what would be the,
• 29:25
  what would be the advice
• 29:28
  like if you get this advice,
• 29:30
  this is a red flag,
• 29:31
  but you should definitely not work with that clinic.
• 29:34
  Because that's also important.
• 29:35
  This is a great question.
• 29:36
  Let me unpack this.
• 29:37
  So there's so many forms of delivery now to testosterone.
• 29:41
  80% of worthless.
• 29:43
  The tried and true that work
• 29:45
  and have been used for decades in both men and women
• 29:49
  are injectable number one primary.
• 29:51
  And again, dude, like people freak out of needles,
• 29:54
  a bonus question.
• 29:55
  You know what the, the, the word for a needle phobia is?
• 29:58
  What's over here called tyrannophobia?
• 30:02
  It's ridiculously.
• 30:03
  Yes, I'm actually right.
• 30:04
  Because you're like tyrannosaurus, right?
• 30:06
  Like, where does that come from?
• 30:07
  But that's, that's the biggest hurdle in obstacle
• 30:09
  in most men.
• 30:11
  It's not an obstacle in most women.
• 30:12
  They don't care.
• 30:13
  It's crazy, but men are afraid of needles.
• 30:14
  But testosterone now in oil,
• 30:17
  the estuars of testosterone,
• 30:18
  which the primary ones are either symphony or annotate
• 30:20
  in the United States now.
• 30:21
  Per P&A is available still,
• 30:23
  but it's fast acting.
• 30:24
  Most people don't get that.
• 30:26
  It's in like MCT oil or sesame oil.
• 30:30
  And it's so thin that it's easily able to go through
• 30:33
  like a 29 gauge or 28 gauge needle,
• 30:35
  which, as you know, is like an insulin needle, right?
• 30:37
  So previous to that, men would complain
• 30:40
  because they would have to use bigger needles
• 30:42
  and you would leave scar tissue, right?
• 30:43
  Inject here, up here, up here, you know,
• 30:46
  it quads, if you're really brave.
• 30:49
  But bottom line is now is like you can use
• 30:52
  really thin, small gauge needles to inject testosterone.
• 30:55
  It's not a big deal.
• 30:56
  But injectable is what you should be looking for
• 30:59
  because there's also stuff that you put topical.
• 31:02
  Yeah, so I'm gonna get you that.
• 31:03
  So injectables number one, okay?
• 31:05
  But to talk about it deeper,
• 31:07
  it's not a big deal now
• 31:08
  because obviously you can use small needles.
• 31:09
  But the next way is transdermal.
• 31:12
  And the best way to do transdermal for both men and women
• 31:14
  is actually for men at the base of the scrotum
• 31:17
  and for women, it's like at the head of the labial
• 31:19
  or the intervaginal area.
• 31:21
  Because the reason that is is the skin is highly permeable.
• 31:25
  In fact, the base of the scrotum
• 31:27
  and the head of the clitoris and the intervaginal area
• 31:30
  of the vagina is like eight times more permeable
• 31:32
  than anywhere else in the body.
• 31:34
  So when you place it there, it absorbs readily and instantly.
• 31:37
  So it's like bottom line and I used transdermal testosterone
• 31:41
  for five years when I moved to Mexico.
• 31:43
  I couldn't get it anymore.
• 31:44
  So since I've come back to the States,
• 31:45
  I just sat around and got transdermal.
• 31:47
  I'm gonna just back to injections.
• 31:48
  And again, because the needles are so small,
• 31:50
  it's not a big deal.
• 31:51
  It's not a big deal.
• 31:52
  The other one is a newer form.
• 31:54
  So if you got injectable, we've got transgroidal
• 31:56
  or intervaginal, whether you're male or female,
• 31:59
  and now the third one is a new company called Kaisatrix.
• 32:03
  And they have an oral form of testosterone,
• 32:06
  which literally is a quote unquote oral testosterone booster.
• 32:09
  And the type of testosterone is undecanella is what it's called.
• 32:13
  And honestly, which is laughable,
• 32:15
  the European world had a product
• 32:18
  in the old school bodybuilding days called Andrial.
• 32:21
  And Andrial was testosterone undecanella.
• 32:24
  And this is actually available through CERL,
• 32:26
  which is the pharmaceutical company,
• 32:28
  in the late 70s all the way through the 80s
• 32:30
  and then they just disbanded it for whatever reason.
• 32:31
  But for men, it never optimized them.
• 32:35
  It would like slightly boost them,
• 32:36
  but they can never feel like they feel when they're on,
• 32:39
  like is that because it doesn't get absorbed the same way?
• 32:42
  Yeah. So when it goes through the small intestine
• 32:44
  and goes through first pass through the liver,
• 32:46
  it's basically being deactivated in that area.
• 32:51
  So it's not absorbed as well.
• 32:53
  But these guys that created Kaisatrix,
• 32:55
  I forget the name of their company right now,
• 32:57
  but they're constantly messaging me
• 32:58
  and they want me to promote their company.
• 33:01
  They've done something to the carrier oil
• 33:04
  so that when it goes through first pass,
• 33:06
  it's being absorbed a lot better.
• 33:09
  And so you can actually move a person,
• 33:11
  say from 150 to 400 to 500 total,
• 33:14
  and you could probably take their free from about,
• 33:16
  you know, a super low level,
• 33:17
  somewhere between say five and 10 to 20.
• 33:20
  And so in most men, that's a big mover
• 33:23
  and a lot of people are starting to take it.
• 33:25
  And again, going back to like they don't want to inject,
• 33:27
  they don't want to put it on the balls.
• 33:28
  A lot of guys will say like,
• 33:30
  all if I get on my balls and get some underwear
• 33:31
  or my wife can't go down on me,
• 33:33
  I don't want to touch my kids or whatever,
• 33:35
  but it's not that big of a risk
• 33:36
  that people complain about that.
• 33:38
  So the oral version seemingly as they continue
• 33:41
  to perfect the actual delivery of it,
• 33:43
  because it's not perfect yet.
• 33:44
  And even the owners will tell you that
• 33:46
  because they want to be able to move
• 33:48
  the free testosterone levels the same as injectable does
• 33:50
  or they want a hair mass market.
• 33:52
  And exactly.
• 33:53
  I mean, they're out there now,
• 33:54
  but the problem they have is they're not moving free
• 33:57
  and total because the formulation is not perfect.
• 34:00
  But those are the free types.
• 34:02
  Everything else is bogus.
• 34:04
  There's patches, there's trokeys
• 34:07
  that they put like along that gum line,
• 34:09
  which is absolutely targeted, doesn't absorb well.
• 34:11
  There's one called nattesto that's an intranasal.
• 34:15
  It's actually patented by this guy down here at Miami.
• 34:18
  I forget his name, but he's been on my podcast,
• 34:20
  but causes nosebleeds.
• 34:22
  It's insane.
• 34:23
  So like there's other formats before I'm gonna talk about,
• 34:26
  but if you're in the market,
• 34:27
  whether you're male or female,
• 34:29
  those are your three delivery systems
• 34:30
  that are tried and true that will work.
• 34:32
  And I wouldn't even use the,
• 34:33
  I wouldn't use the chisetric check
• 34:35
  because it's not ready for prime time.
• 34:36
  If somebody's telling you different,
• 34:37
  don't work with them.
• 34:39
  So you're to answer the other question.
• 34:41
  The biggest red flag is when you go to the windmill clinic
• 34:44
  or you go to the testosterone center
• 34:46
  and they wanna put you on an AI.
• 34:47
  And an AI is an aromatase inhibitor medication,
• 34:50
  which blocks estrogen.
• 34:52
  Now, when you block estrogen,
• 34:54
  when you're giving a therapeutic dose of testosterone,
• 34:56
  you're actually blocking the effect
• 34:58
  of testosterone at the tissue level.
• 34:59
  It's insanity.
• 35:00
  But for some reason,
• 35:02
  and might be bodybuilding culture,
• 35:04
  we don't really know where it comes from,
• 35:05
  but at one point in time,
• 35:07
  they used to think we wanna hire testosterone
• 35:08
  and let low estrogen.
• 35:09
  It's the complete inverse.
• 35:11
  Whoa, man, let me see that.
• 35:13
  Exactly, but here's the thing that's so crazy.
• 35:15
  And this is like perverse
• 35:17
  through all of hormone optimization.
• 35:20
  They believe that you want to push free
• 35:23
  and total testosterone higher
• 35:24
  and then keep estrogen in this narrow confined range.
• 35:27
  And it's completely insane
• 35:29
  because the narrow confined range,
• 35:32
  the lower you push a man and a woman's estrogen,
• 35:35
  the more of negative effects they have,
• 35:37
  brain issues,
• 35:39
  vascular issues, bone mineral density issues.
• 35:41
  So it's completely insane.
• 35:43
  If we get back until like, why is this happening?
• 35:46
  The state medical licensing boards
• 35:48
  see this narrow range on blood markers, right?
• 35:50
  Like think of cluster lab corp.
• 35:52
  And I think it's like 21 estrogen to like,
• 35:55
  it might be 17 to 32 and then.
• 35:58
  And so doctors wanna keep their patients
• 36:00
  and that confined range.
• 36:01
  And when you do that, you whack them out,
• 36:03
  but for them, it's like, well, I don't want to get
• 36:05
  audited by the state medical licensing board
• 36:07
  and they see a guy's estrogen like 20 points outside of the range.
• 36:10
  And so they get freaked out about it.
• 36:12
  And so that's what's going on out there.
• 36:14
  And it's obviously mismanaging patient health
• 36:16
  because they're just trying to keep them in a range
• 36:18
  that has nothing to do with therapeutic testosterone.
• 36:20
  But it just saved their own ass.
• 36:21
  100% it's CYA.
• 36:23
  You know, it's so tough out there to navigate this
• 36:25
  because he been mind like,
• 36:28
  what is the advice that you seek first of all?
• 36:30
  If you're not listening to these kinds of podcasts
• 36:31
  and you feel like shit, you go to your GP.
• 36:34
  And then you listen to a podcast
• 36:35
  and then you bring that information back to your GP
• 36:38
  and he's like, that's not correct.
• 36:40
  It's incorrect.
• 36:40
  And then you're just like, okay,
• 36:41
  so who do I listen to?
• 36:42
  There's a guy on the internet or your GP.
• 36:44
  But you have to think about, listen,
• 36:48
  you have to think about incentives.
• 36:49
  I think that when you understand incentives,
• 36:51
  I think that you start to, you know,
• 36:54
  break out of the matrix a little bit.
• 36:56
  And that's where you have to, that's where you have to think.
• 36:58
  Even when just a very simple thought exercise,
• 37:01
  when you're getting prescribed a drug
• 37:03
  by a particular doctor, like understand that
• 37:06
  there's a reason why they're prescribing that drug.
• 37:08
  So the financial reason why they're prescribing that drug.
• 37:11
  The back, yeah, I won't even go down that rabbit hole,
• 37:13
  but I mean, I just watched something on their day.
• 37:15
  I think the rule of thumb is,
• 37:16
  don't go to your GP for all known optimization.
• 37:18
  If you are depressed, if you are low energy,
• 37:22
  again, number one symptomology of hormone deficiency
• 37:26
  is this brain fog.
• 37:27
  If you have any of those things, do not.
• 37:30
  Because like you said, they will literally tell you you're fine.
• 37:33
  And in addition to telling you're fine,
• 37:34
  they will write you a script for an SSRI.
• 37:36
  I'll just take this blue pill.
• 37:38
  And then they'll give you a reptile dysfunction medication
• 37:40
  if you're not having sexual function.
• 37:42
  You know, if you can't get an erection.
• 37:43
  So it's just all drugs.
• 37:44
  It's all drugs.
• 37:45
  It's horrible, dude.
• 37:46
  And truthfully, and this is statistically proven
• 37:49
  through the studies now.
• 37:50
  And by the way, we left off statins,
• 37:52
  they'll give you a statin.
• 37:53
  If your cholesterol is over 200, right?
• 37:55
  Which is a farzalical lipitorial.
• 37:57
  Yeah, all those drugs.
• 37:59
  That those are horrible, too.
• 38:00
  But we now know the studies show that it further exacerbates
• 38:04
  hormone deficiencies because it pushes your testosterone
• 38:07
  and your freak testosterone lower.
• 38:09
  So now these guys are in a vicious cycle
• 38:11
  that they can't get out of.
• 38:13
  So yeah, so seek a, like I said, seek a doctor,
• 38:17
  Google them, do research on them that has a practice
• 38:20
  where they have been optimizing hormones for a long time.
• 38:22
  The best guys out there have been doing it for 25 years.
• 38:25
  You know, and you can find them.
• 38:26
  They're available.
• 38:27
  Not hard to find them in Google searches.
• 38:30
  We spoke a lot about like optimizing for men.
• 38:33
  What are some ideas around hormone optimization for women?
• 38:36
  Yeah.
• 38:38
  Same thing.
• 38:39
  So it's, dude, it's crazy.
• 38:40
  That's a whole women are the,
• 38:43
  they are basically a lost cause in hormone optimization
• 38:47
  because basically the women's health initiative, WHOI,
• 38:51
  which was 25 plus years ago now,
• 38:54
  was the study where they saw all these women get uterine cancer
• 38:57
  and ovarian cancer because they were giving them
• 38:59
  equine, premarion or whatever it was.
• 39:02
  I forget the drug for birth control
• 39:04
  and for hormone optimization,
• 39:05
  like postmenopausal and perimenopausal.
• 39:08
  And so all these people got these uterine cancers
• 39:10
  and stuff like that.
• 39:11
  So then at that point, they shut down hormone optimization
• 39:14
  for women because they thought it doesn't work.
• 39:16
  And so you have all these doctors
• 39:17
  that are like basically 60 and older out there,
• 39:19
  which there were still a ton of them practicing
• 39:21
  who tell their women that you can't be on hormones.
• 39:24
  And so dude, I'm telling you,
• 39:25
  it is so bad for women's.
• 39:28
  Most women today who are, again,
• 39:30
  let's just say 45 and up cannot find anybody
• 39:33
  who can optimize a hormone.
• 39:34
  So if that's the biggest email and question that I get,
• 39:37
  I mean, I get literally dozens a day
• 39:40
  between all coms of women desperate help.
• 39:43
  What can you do?
• 39:43
  Can you recommend a doctor to me?
• 39:45
  And there are some really good female optimization decisions
• 39:48
  out there, but the problem with women in those doctors' defense
• 39:52
  is they're very thinnicky.
• 39:54
  They're very biochemically unique
• 39:55
  and ultra-ly individual.
• 39:57
  And so it's harder to optimize a woman than it is a man.
• 40:00
  Like with a man, it's not boilerplate cookie cutter,
• 40:03
  but it's close to that.
• 40:04
  And we kind of understand what to do,
• 40:06
  but with women, it's a little bit different
• 40:08
  because they're very, very unique.
• 40:09
  And so you have to titrate their therapy
• 40:11
  sometimes up and down and spend more time with them.
• 40:13
  And so knowing what I've told you about how all these companies,
• 40:16
  the big ones are running things by templates.
• 40:19
  They don't help with it.
• 40:20
  It's even more damaging for women.
• 40:21
  Way worse for women.
• 40:22
  But they should still go on this journey.
• 40:24
  100%.
• 40:25
  This is how crazy it is though.
• 40:27
  I always tell people this,
• 40:28
  there's no difference at all from a male
• 40:32
  and female physiology,
• 40:34
  other than the amount of testosterone
• 40:35
  they were exposed to in New York.
• 40:37
  As you know, you give a woman hormones,
• 40:39
  you make them into a man, right?
• 40:41
  So it's like all you have to do is a woman gets older,
• 40:44
  is you have to optimize their thyroid,
• 40:46
  you have to optimize their estrogen,
• 40:48
  you have to optimize their progesterone,
• 40:49
  you have to optimize their testosterone.
• 40:51
  With a man, optimize estrogen,
• 40:53
  optimize testosterone.
• 40:54
  Some men might need a little progesterone,
• 40:56
  but it's just a little bit more complicated
• 40:58
  to optimize a female.
• 41:00
  But dude, they need the same things.
• 41:01
  They just need less of it.
• 41:03
  So like if a man, for example,
• 41:05
  on injectable testosterone is getting 150 to 175 milligrams a week,
• 41:09
  which is most men,
• 41:10
  a woman is gonna get somewhere between five
• 41:12
  and 15 milligrams a week at testosterone.
• 41:14
  Whether it's injectable or transderval,
• 41:16
  it's the same thing.
• 41:17
  The problem is you have,
• 41:18
  you don't even have compound pharmacies
• 41:20
  making the formulation small enough for women.
• 41:22
  They're trying to like use men's formulations
• 41:24
  and then extrapolate like microdoses,
• 41:27
  which aren't even calculable, it's insane.
• 41:29
  That's tough.
• 41:30
  I mean, it's just,
• 41:32
  it's sad that there's not more support for women in this world.
• 41:35
  Because again, I can only imagine
• 41:37
  if people understand what a hormone optimized life feels like.
• 41:42
  Yes.
• 41:43
  It's kind of sad when you look back
• 41:45
  and you realize you haven't been living that life
• 41:47
  for how many years.
• 41:48
  I mean, I tell people this got a difference
• 41:51
  between not being on therapeutic testosterone
• 41:54
  in your 40s and 50s and being on it.
• 41:56
  Apparently even earlier.
• 41:58
  But I mean, yeah, I mean, I mean,
• 41:59
  most men and women,
• 42:01
  and again,
• 42:02
  obviously more or less there are less women
• 42:03
  becoming optimized than there are men,
• 42:05
  but they look at their life as preimposed optimization.
• 42:08
  The effects, the physiological effects,
• 42:11
  the mental effects,
• 42:12
  the mood altering effects,
• 42:13
  the energetic enhancement effects,
• 42:15
  there's so much greater when this is done
• 42:18
  versus previous life.
• 42:19
  But again, for the average guy out there,
• 42:22
  and thankfully,
• 42:23
  you're exposing this kind of information to the world
• 42:26
  and the public is finding out about this
• 42:28
  and it's happening more and more every day.
• 42:30
  But for the average guy out there who doesn't know,
• 42:31
  they don't know there's a solution.
• 42:33
  They just feel like they're life sucks.
• 42:35
  I say this all the time,
• 42:36
  like if you're obese and insulin,
• 42:39
  dysregulated insulin resistant,
• 42:41
  do you earn a default state of pain and suffering?
• 42:43
  You live in a state of pain and suffering.
• 42:45
  Most people who are like that
• 42:47
  don't know what it's like to live a life optimized.
• 42:51
  I mean, think about it.
• 42:52
  If you woke up every single day
• 42:53
  and you have a big belly
• 42:55
  and you're insulin resistant,
• 42:57
  you're having cytokine storms in your body at all times
• 43:00
  and that cytokine storms are literally causing you pain.
• 43:03
  What does that mean?
• 43:04
  A cytokine storm is basically just
• 43:05
  a massive inflammatory cascade in the body, right?
• 43:09
  So like if you got a bunch of this real belly fat, right?
• 43:11
  And you're like this, like again, most dudes.
• 43:14
  You're in pain.
• 43:15
  I mean, your dick doesn't work.
• 43:17
  Your sexual function is down.
• 43:22
  Again, those cytokine storms are creating
• 43:24
  that cascade down there
• 43:25
  where your penis cannot get optimal blood flow.
• 43:27
  You can't get nitric oxide expansion
• 43:30
  to the actual organ of the penis.
• 43:32
  So it's like all this stuff is leading
• 43:34
  to just this total default state of suffering and pain.
• 43:39
  And so that's why I always tell people
• 43:41
  like when you see people who are obese
• 43:42
  and again, insulin dysregulated highly inflamed,
• 43:45
  you know, have have sympathy, you know,
• 43:47
  respect for them because you have no idea
• 43:49
  what life is like for them.
• 43:50
  They don't know what it's like to feel good.
• 43:53
  We take it for granted, right?
• 43:55
  Like we don't wake up in pain every morning,
• 43:57
  but obese people are in pain and they're default.
• 44:01
  And they're still trying to go through life
• 44:02
  is still trying to do all the same shit.
• 44:04
  It's hard.
• 44:04
  Yeah, man.
• 44:05
  So outside of, but I know now a lot of your focuses
• 44:08
  on peptides, but outside of hormone optimization,
• 44:12
  what are some other things that people should be aware of
• 44:14
  that are not peptides and not hormones?
• 44:16
  Or are there other parts of hormone optimization
• 44:20
  outside of TRT?
• 44:21
  Yeah, I mean, there definitely is.
• 44:22
  I mean, I mean, again, so the first order of business
• 44:25
  in your early 20s, you know, and I would say
• 44:28
  probably under 25, if you're really advanced
• 44:30
  in your 20 or 21, I mean, anybody can do it.
• 44:33
  You can go on, you know, this kind of labs,
• 44:35
  private MD labs, like I have a deal with private MD labs
• 44:37
  up for different panels depending
• 44:39
  on your economic situation.
• 44:40
  And I always recommend when people ask me,
• 44:42
  like, hey, I need to see what's going on under the hood.
• 44:44
  You know, I say, go there and pick what you can afford.
• 44:47
  You know, the elite level is like the deepest dive
• 44:49
  under the hood and really understand it.
• 44:51
  And then from there, once you know what you're working with
• 44:53
  and a lot of guys, any of the women will push back
• 44:55
  and will like, yeah, but who's going to read my labs?
• 44:57
  I don't understand that, you know, and I'm like,
• 44:58
  it's not hard.
• 44:59
  You can go on Google or go on YouTube and do a simple search.
• 45:02
  And in five minutes, you're going to understand what you're
• 45:04
  looking for.
• 45:05
  I was betting off you uploaded to like chat GPT
• 45:07
  if you give you a read.
• 45:08
  Shit.
• 45:08
  Sasha, exactly.
• 45:10
  It'll be like, well, Jay Campbell says, yeah.
• 45:13
  But like it's, you're talking to get me going about AI.
• 45:16
  Sure with the talk about that, we can work that in.
• 45:18
  Yeah, so the, so the reality is is like,
• 45:20
  what can people do besides knowing what's going on
• 45:22
  under the hood, live insulin control?
• 45:25
  I always say, and this is a fact and all back up
• 45:28
  by the studies, the greatest way to live long
• 45:32
  and live strong is by being lean.
• 45:34
  The leaner you are, the less inflammation you have,
• 45:38
  the less potential for disease, right?
• 45:41
  Because disease, this ease comes from inflammation.
• 45:46
  And inflammation over time causes physical bodily degradation.
• 45:50
  And the degradation becomes cancer, type 2 diabetes,
• 45:54
  neurogeneral disease, I mean, you name it.
• 45:56
  It's all from inflammation.
• 45:57
  So the leaner you are, the more hormonally optimized
• 46:01
  you are going to be.
• 46:02
  Because again, remember, if you have all this fat,
• 46:04
  and the most men carry their fat right here,
• 46:06
  that's going to break up sexual function
• 46:08
  and cause your endocrine system to go into decline.
• 46:11
  Faster than it does just through natural means
• 46:14
  through a degraded society.
• 46:15
  So that's like the key is,
• 46:17
  remain lean, do cardio, lift weights.
• 46:20
  Obviously, hormonally optimized is going to give you
• 46:21
  more energy to do that.
• 46:22
  But there are other supplements which we could talk about,
• 46:25
  you know, that my company sells,
• 46:27
  that are myocondrial optimizing supplements
• 46:28
  that you can take without having to hormonally optimize
• 46:31
  that will give you a little bit of push too.
• 46:33
  But as we get deeper into peptides,
• 46:34
  I always tell people the first step is understanding
• 46:38
  whether or not you have a hormonal deficiency.
• 46:39
  Even before peptides.
• 46:41
  100%, no one, in fact, that's a good segue.
• 46:44
  No one should consider or think that they're going to get
• 46:48
  amazing results with peptides
• 46:50
  if their hormonal machinery is deficient.
• 46:52
  Like if they're totally dysfunctional,
• 46:54
  dysregulated, and they start peptides,
• 46:56
  they're not going to get the same results
• 46:57
  as somebody who has optimal.
• 46:58
  I got you.
• 46:59
  So the hormon step one, okay.
• 47:01
  All right.
• 47:02
  So then, I mean, we can talk about,
• 47:04
  I don't even know what,
• 47:06
  we see mitochondria, like energy supplements
• 47:09
  is not like pre-workout.
• 47:10
  Let's just touch on that.
• 47:11
  Because that's interesting.
• 47:13
  And we go into peptides too.
• 47:14
  Because I've listened,
• 47:15
  I've tried every supplement under the sun
• 47:17
  when it comes to like working out a body building.
• 47:19
  But a lot of this stuff is just like pre-workout protein.
• 47:23
  Maybe there's some studies behind them.
• 47:25
  Oh, crazy.
• 47:26
  As I say, it's some study of concrete.
• 47:27
  That's pretty much it, right?
• 47:28
  Everything else is kind of garbage.
• 47:30
  Yeah.
• 47:31
  And I don't even know how effective it is.
• 47:32
  No, totally true.
• 47:33
  So the mitochondrial are,
• 47:35
  this is a good segue way.
• 47:36
  The mitochondrial are brand new and doable.
• 47:38
  So you've got, I mean,
• 47:41
  there's a lot of mitochondrial optimizing peptides,
• 47:43
  which are amazing.
• 47:44
  But there are now basically what are known as the class of drugs
• 47:47
  or, I mean, they're technically supplements
• 47:49
  because there's no FDA approval for these things
• 47:52
  and research companies like myself
• 47:53
  were making these because they're amazing,
• 47:55
  you know, and using with people.
• 47:56
  But there's a product that came out,
• 47:59
  it actually came out in the underground like four years ago,
• 48:02
  but it made its way into the mainstreaming last year.
• 48:04
  It's called SLU-PP-332.
• 48:07
  It's a small molecule,
• 48:09
  but it's got incredible research behind it.
• 48:12
  In fact, the University of Florida did this landmark study
• 48:14
  last two years ago.
• 48:15
  It came out in like December of 2023
• 48:18
  that it's the most powerful exercise mimetic
• 48:21
  or what you would call exercise in a pill.
• 48:22
  Like, dude, it's insane.
• 48:23
  I've been using it now for a year.
• 48:26
  It increased not a peptide though.
• 48:27
  It's not a peptide, it's a small molecule,
• 48:29
  but it increases metabolic efficiency,
• 48:31
  burns fat, gives you more mTOR signaling
• 48:34
  so you can generate more force.
• 48:36
  I mean, it's insane.
• 48:37
  I mean, this is without question,
• 48:39
  I'm not hyping this up when I say this
• 48:40
  because I know there are thousands of people around the world,
• 48:42
  probably hundreds of thousands of people around the world
• 48:44
  using this now.
• 48:45
  This is the number one over the counter supplement ever.
• 48:49
  Like, if you seriously want to be somebody out there
• 48:51
  who doesn't want to use testosterone,
• 48:53
  isn't going to use peptides,
• 48:54
  afraid to inject or whatever,
• 48:55
  and you want to take a supplement
• 48:57
  that is absolutely going to move the needle.
• 48:58
  It would be SLU-PP gastroedery.
• 49:01
  Is this replacing like a pre-workout
• 49:03
  or is it used in conjunction?
• 49:04
  But if I would, I mean, look,
• 49:06
  most pre-workout's are worthless.
• 49:08
  I mean, I mean, they will amp you up
• 49:10
  from an energy standpoint, right?
• 49:12
  They'll make you hyper, they're loaded with caffeine
• 49:14
  or they're loaded with touring,
• 49:15
  or they're loaded with baiting,
• 49:17
  or, you know, there's somebody out there
• 49:18
  who can include in me.
• 49:19
  Yeah.
• 49:20
  Yeah.
• 49:21
  I mean, all those things will increase a brain signal
• 49:26
  or dopamine signaling or increase
• 49:27
  the antigenergic expects, you know,
• 49:29
  elevate heart rate, give you more energy,
• 49:31
  but obviously using those over time
• 49:32
  is not good for you, right?
• 49:34
  So like the mitochondrial enhancing,
• 49:37
  and there's other ones,
• 49:38
  but just talking about SLU-PP right now,
• 49:39
  like if you take that morning and in the afternoon,
• 49:43
  you know, of the dose that we recommend
• 49:45
  and the doses that we're seeing in the studies,
• 49:46
  you will definitely have performance enhancement.
• 49:50
  As far as like what are the long-term effects,
• 49:51
  we have no idea.
• 49:53
  But the studies at Florida that's demonstrated
• 49:56
  that we're taking massive doses
• 49:59
  that nobody was using
• 49:59
  and there was no harmful effects.
• 50:01
  And of course, they're in rats, right?
• 50:03
  But like extrapolating to humans,
• 50:05
  and obviously I work with people
• 50:06
  in the performance enhancement segment
• 50:08
  who work with Olympic caliber rapids
• 50:10
  and professional athletes.
• 50:11
  And so it's been being used in the underground
• 50:13
  for four or five years.
• 50:15
  In fact, what I was told like three months ago
• 50:17
  was that it was the number one supplement
• 50:18
  at the Paris Olympics.
• 50:20
  So you saw some of those freaks that were like, you know,
• 50:25
  we say they're not the acrobats,
• 50:26
  but the gymnast, that little Filipino guy, did you see?
• 50:29
  Yeah, yeah.
• 50:30
  That dude is on a lot of SLU-PP-332.
• 50:33
  So you look at that, you know,
• 50:35
  you have a mental image of that.
• 50:36
  And you can see that those people are very similar
• 50:39
  to performance enhancement andabolic steroids
• 50:42
  and other peptides that would be added into that.
• 50:44
  So that would be your probably like,
• 50:46
  again, if you want to call it natural,
• 50:48
  that would be your greatest enhancer
• 50:50
  by going down the optimizing mitochondrial pathway
• 50:53
  before you would get into peptides,
• 50:54
  before you would get into bio-regulators.
• 50:56
  That's okay.
• 50:57
  So the other thing that I wanted to ask about,
• 51:00
  because obviously peptides are very popular,
• 51:02
  what about storms?
• 51:03
  So do storms have a place?
• 51:05
  Because I think they also fall under the not really tested,
• 51:10
  but people use them for performance enhancement as well.
• 51:13
  Do you consider them to be like light steroids?
• 51:16
  Do they have any utility?
• 51:18
  Are they just really not safe
• 51:19
  and just ignore them stick to peptides?
• 51:21
  They have absolutely zero utility.
• 51:23
  And here's why, they do create muscle,
• 51:26
  they do enhance metabolic firepower,
• 51:29
  they can burn fat, bro, they are so toxic
• 51:32
  to our endocrine system, they lower HDL,
• 51:36
  they increase small particles and platelets,
• 51:40
  they do so much damage to our cholesterol,
• 51:42
  hepatic function, liver function.
• 51:45
  I have spoken to so many doctors in the last five years
• 51:49
  who have told me that they have had
• 51:50
  18 and 19 year old kids,
• 51:51
  because that's who we're using them.
• 51:52
  Young kids, because they say,
• 51:53
  salamone are they just steroids?
• 51:54
  They don't lack these steroids.
• 51:55
  Or they sell them over the counter in GNC's,
• 51:57
  like behind the counter under the table,
• 51:59
  you know, like, hey, take this.
• 52:01
  And they do work, but they cause such poor health
• 52:05
  to biomarkers.
• 52:06
  And again, like I said,
• 52:07
  I've talked to doctors who sent kids in,
• 52:10
  have had kids come in, they do their labs
• 52:12
  and they send them right to the LR,
• 52:13
  they send them right to emergency to pump their stomach,
• 52:15
  because they crush HDL,
• 52:18
  they crush hepatic function,
• 52:20
  they crush liver values.
• 52:21
  I mean, they're doing bad things.
• 52:24
  And when you compare them to just therapeutic testosterone,
• 52:28
  which doesn't do any of those things,
• 52:30
  it makes no sense.
• 52:31
  And then the other thing,
• 52:32
  and this is the laughable thing,
• 52:33
  of course, that we're in America,
• 52:34
  they're three times more expensive
• 52:36
  than therapeutic testosterone.
• 52:38
  So people are paying all this money to take storms
• 52:41
  and doing God knows what kind of untold damage
• 52:43
  their health.
• 52:44
  I mean, look, I've known about storms for probably 12 years
• 52:47
  in all my books,
• 52:48
  I've never once brought them up
• 52:50
  because I know how harmful they are.
• 52:52
  I know what they do to people's health long-term.
• 52:54
  And it seems to be like,
• 52:55
  no, I shouldn't.
• 52:56
  You're targeting,
• 52:57
  you're targeting this young kid
• 52:59
  that doesn't want to jump into testosterone
• 53:01
  or other steroids,
• 53:03
  but they want to look good
• 53:04
  and they start working out.
• 53:06
  And I don't know, just seems like,
• 53:08
  it seems like malicious.
• 53:10
  It is malicious.
• 53:11
  The people that sell them are mostly
• 53:12
  because most of you that are against
• 53:14
  will be targeting.
• 53:15
  The people that sell farms,
• 53:16
  if you go online and you do searches and stuff
• 53:18
  and I don't want to like,
• 53:18
  throw everybody under the bus.
• 53:19
  There's some good people out there,
• 53:22
  but they're not,
• 53:23
  they're just,
• 53:24
  they don't lead to anything productive.
• 53:25
  They cause long-term poor health.
• 53:28
  And again, you're talking about kids.
• 53:30
  Like, are youth should be learning
• 53:32
  about therapeutic peptides
• 53:33
  and therapeutic testosterone
• 53:35
  and things that will actually allow them
• 53:36
  to live a long, productive life?
• 53:38
  Not just die looking good.
• 53:40
  Exactly.
• 53:41
  And honestly,
• 53:42
  there were definitely small molecules
• 53:45
  that some people would technically classify as farms
• 53:48
  that if used in the context of health and longevity
• 53:50
  in surgically precise dosages,
• 53:54
  probably aren't going to do much harm.
• 53:56
  But as you know,
• 53:57
  and Tim Ferriss coined this,
• 53:59
  the difference between a pill and a poison
• 54:00
  is always a dosage.
• 54:01
  And the young kids,
• 54:02
  more is better.
• 54:04
  They live in supersized society.
• 54:06
  So they start taking so much.
• 54:07
  And before you know it,
• 54:08
  their liver is crushed.
• 54:10
  And so it's like,
• 54:11
  I always tell guys,
• 54:12
  like, man, educate yourself.
• 54:13
  It's easy to do now today.
• 54:15
  Don't use farms.
• 54:16
  If you're going to use a farm,
• 54:18
  make sure you're using one
• 54:19
  in a very, very small dose
• 54:21
  for a very specific reason
• 54:22
  and don't use it for more than four weeks.
• 54:24
  But I bet you could get the same results
• 54:27
  with some sort of peptide
• 54:29
  or some sort of other combination of better result.
• 54:32
  What are some other,
• 54:35
  I mean, I only know about peptide,
• 54:38
  storms, testosterone,
• 54:39
  steroids.
• 54:40
  What are some other things
• 54:40
  that people should definitely stay away from
• 54:42
  that you've seen, sort of?
• 54:43
  I mean, you're basically just again,
• 54:45
  you know, pre-workouts,
• 54:46
  adderol,
• 54:47
  anything that stimulates
• 54:49
  the beta-andrenergic system,
• 54:51
  which is the vascular system here.
• 54:52
  Because over time,
• 54:53
  that can cause heart enlargement
• 54:54
  of clendutorol,
• 54:56
  horrible joke.
• 54:57
  No one should take clendutorol.
• 54:59
  It literally causes a ordered valve damage.
• 55:02
  It causes inner heart wall damage.
• 55:05
  So many bros and women,
• 55:07
  you know, who are in the bodybuilding
• 55:09
  or the performance enhancement
• 55:10
  or even just the competitive physique arena,
• 55:12
  there's so many of them.
• 55:13
  It's a massive subculture.
• 55:14
  They take clendutorol dude,
• 55:16
  and it's so bad for you.
• 55:17
  Albuterol is a way better drug.
• 55:19
  It, you know, again, Albuterol is an asthma drug, right?
• 55:22
  They prescribe it like,
• 55:23
  like giving candy to a baby.
• 55:25
  But like if you use that
• 55:26
  at a micro dosage pre cardio,
• 55:28
  you'll have fat loss from it
• 55:29
  and it won't do any of the high-risk damage
• 55:31
  that clendutorol uses.
• 55:32
  But there are other small molecules out there.
• 55:35
  There are drugs called PPR inhibitors
• 55:38
  that have shown in studies
• 55:39
  to be toxic at high dosages.
• 55:41
  Look, at the end of the day,
• 55:42
  it's again, the Tim Ferriss principle.
• 55:44
  Always the difference between a pill
• 55:45
  and a poison is the dosage.
• 55:46
  It's just that most people seem to think
• 55:49
  that if some is good, more is better.
• 55:52
  And it's never that way.
• 55:53
  And it's always like,
• 55:54
  even when I coach or when I lecture,
• 55:56
  I talk, I always tell people,
• 55:58
  start low, go slow,
• 56:00
  maintain the minimum effective dosage principle.
• 56:03
  Because that is going to allow you
• 56:04
  to live the longest and strongest
• 56:06
  without any kind of risk to your long-term health.
• 56:08
  Yeah, that's smart advice.
• 56:10
  This is why you have to have more conversations.
• 56:11
  More candid conversations.
• 56:13
  People are scared to talk about this.
• 56:14
  And what happens when you don't talk about it?
• 56:16
  Did people do their own research?
• 56:18
  Did they go to Reddit?
• 56:19
  Did they buy?
• 56:20
  You know it's true though.
• 56:23
  I am not like done Reddit.
• 56:24
  You should search me on Reddit, dude.
• 56:26
  I was still running people that talk smack about me
• 56:28
  because I always tell people the truth.
• 56:29
  Yeah, I mean, Reddit is just cool.
• 56:31
  Where do people go to research
• 56:32
  if they can't talk to somebody?
• 56:33
  Exactly.
• 56:34
  And then they get bad info on top of bad info.
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  Right.
• 57:46
  So let's talk about peptides.
• 57:47
  So, you know, where did peptides come into
• 57:52
  health and human optimization?
• 57:54
  How old are peptides?
• 57:55
  So peptides, so this is an interesting conversation
• 57:57
  because we have to talk about bioregulators and peptides.
• 58:00
  So the what peptides and bioregulators are,
• 58:04
  basically signaling chains and proteins.
• 58:07
  The longer chains are peptides
• 58:09
  and that's why most of them have to be injected
• 58:11
  and the smaller shorter chains are bioregulators
• 58:14
  and that's why a lot of them are oral capsules.
• 58:16
  But they're both amazing because they're mostly
• 58:19
  naturally produced in the human body.
• 58:21
  They don't cause any kind of side effects
• 58:24
  because like to understand this,
• 58:26
  you know, for the people listening to this audience
• 58:28
  and not go down on super, you know, esoteric rabbit hole,
• 58:31
  most alopathic medications are what are called
• 58:35
  Rockefeller petroleum distillate.
• 58:37
  So they're basically made out of oil-based drugs.
• 58:40
  And when those break down in our system,
• 58:42
  they cause side effects because oil doesn't break down
• 58:45
  in the body like a organic signaling or chain molecule
• 58:48
  like a peptide or a bioregulator does.
• 58:50
  So all of those drugs, as we already talked about,
• 58:53
  over time, as your person gets older
• 58:55
  and they're hooked on a big farm
• 58:56
  and they're taking 12, 15 pills a day, right?
• 58:59
  To medicate this side effect versus this side effect,
• 59:01
  they cause death because literally they cause
• 59:03
  system failure, organ failure, biological system failure.
• 59:06
  So over time, that's what happens.
• 59:08
  But with peptides and bioregulators, that doesn't happen.
• 59:10
  In fact, I've been using, which is crazy for me
• 59:13
  to think about this, but I've been using
• 59:14
  therapeutic peptides since 2004.
• 59:17
  And the true story is that the very beginning
• 59:20
  of my origin story when I was using therapeutic testosterone,
• 59:23
  I was learning from underground forums,
• 59:25
  which you already talked about.
• 59:27
  And at that time, you know, the bros
• 59:29
  and the people that I was learning from,
• 59:30
  and there were a lot of really smart guys
• 59:32
  who were mentoring me and back then
• 59:33
  did everything was anonymous.
• 59:34
  Nobody had names, they had the handles, right?
• 59:37
  So slayers, all that lotty building for them.
• 59:39
  Yeah, dude, but I mean, like back then,
• 59:41
  that's funny because the biggest one was miscellaneous fitness
• 59:44
  weights and it was in Canada, was based in Canada.
• 59:46
  Yeah.
• 59:47
  But the craziest thing is that there was this peptide
• 59:51
  that people started talking about called Ipa Morellin.
• 59:54
  And the beauty of Ipa Morellin was like,
• 59:56
  hey, man, you could take this peptide
• 59:59
  and it will increase your body's natural growth hormone
• 1:00:01
  production, but it will not give any side effects
• 1:00:03
  and it will not shut down your own natural production.
• 1:00:05
  So everyone's like, wow, sorry, use it.
• 1:00:07
  So back then, again, in 2004, it was my first peptide foray.
• 1:00:10
  I started using it combined with therapeutic testosterone
• 1:00:13
  and I got leaner.
• 1:00:14
  You know, and I felt better.
• 1:00:15
  I had better, deeper sleep because again,
• 1:00:17
  growth hormone assigned to peptides increase IGF1,
• 1:00:20
  which increases polyphasic sleep capability,
• 1:00:23
  improves skin elasticity, well-being,
• 1:00:25
  all these great things that you've heard about from peptides.
• 1:00:28
  And that was again in the very beginning
• 1:00:29
  and I always say like at the very beginning of drugs,
• 1:00:32
  when they circulate in the world, they're always the best.
• 1:00:34
  And then as they get broken down and people find out about them
• 1:00:37
  and they start cutting them and they're not as good.
• 1:00:40
  And so like I always laugh because like Ipa Morellin,
• 1:00:42
  when I was using it in 2004 through 2007 was like gold standard.
• 1:00:46
  And when I use Ipa Morellin today, it's not bad,
• 1:00:48
  but it's not the same effect, right?
• 1:00:50
  So it's just like, that's just kind of how drug culture works
• 1:00:52
  as companies get involved and middlemen get involved.
• 1:00:54
  And they start cutting things and you just don't know
• 1:00:56
  what kind of quality you're getting.
• 1:00:58
  But at the end of the day, peptides and bioregulators,
• 1:01:01
  the differences that bioregulators are smaller chains,
• 1:01:03
  peptides are longer chains.
• 1:01:06
  They have been used in Russia since literally the late 40s.
• 1:01:10
  So there's tons of peer review, there's tons of studies,
• 1:01:12
  there's a great scientist, professor,
• 1:01:15
  named Vladimir Cavinson, who actually died in December of 2023,
• 1:01:19
  who was essentially the father of peptide bioregulators.
• 1:01:23
  And he basically was the guy that pushed them
• 1:01:25
  into the Soviet Union and Eastern block countries
• 1:01:29
  and stuff, bulk area, obviously Ukraine.
• 1:01:32
  So all those people were using these drugs to do forever.
• 1:01:34
  In fact, if you went to Russia,
• 1:01:36
  and I have not been to Russia unfortunately yet,
• 1:01:37
  so it's a bucket place I wanna go to, they're over the counter.
• 1:01:41
  You can just go into any pharmacy
• 1:01:43
  and you can buy a bioregulator, you can buy a peptide
• 1:01:46
  and they're dirt yeast and they've been used again
• 1:01:48
  and dissonally for many, many reasons.
• 1:01:50
  Now to explain what a bioregulator is,
• 1:01:52
  and then we'll get deeper into peptides,
• 1:01:54
  there is a bioregulator, again, oral capsule
• 1:01:56
  for every organ, system, and biological system.
• 1:02:00
  So for example, think about like this
• 1:02:01
  and man can understand this.
• 1:02:02
  As a man gets older, the prostate grows, right?
• 1:02:05
  It hypertrophies.
• 1:02:06
  And so we all at 50, 60 have to wake up in the middle of the night
• 1:02:10
  to take a piss because our prostate walls
• 1:02:12
  are pushing against our urea,
• 1:02:14
  and it just makes us have a pressure going about them.
• 1:02:16
  I'm one of those, almost every guy in their 50 has to do that now.
• 1:02:19
  And obviously as you get older,
• 1:02:21
  sometimes it's twice in the night, so it's structured sleep.
• 1:02:24
  There was a bioregulator called libidon
• 1:02:26
  and there's two other ones too,
• 1:02:28
  but just to talk about libidon,
• 1:02:29
  where you can take two capsules a day
• 1:02:31
  for 10 days in a row and it shrinks your prostate.
• 1:02:33
  And you don't do anything else.
• 1:02:34
  You can do it twice a year.
• 1:02:35
  Now imagine that for the heart, for the thymus gland,
• 1:02:38
  for the pineal gland, for the kidneys, on and on it goes.
• 1:02:43
  So all these things are literally unbelievable.
• 1:02:45
  Again, all you have to do is take these a couple of times a year.
• 1:02:48
  There's also one called a pitilon.
• 1:02:49
  It literally extends the length of your telomeres.
• 1:02:52
  So telomerase, which is obviously what breaks down your telomeres
• 1:02:55
  as you age, imagine taking a pill
• 1:02:58
  that will improve your telomerase expression
• 1:03:00
  so you don't age as fast.
• 1:03:02
  So there's literally right now, like my company right now
• 1:03:04
  is we have access to 20th degree of them.
• 1:03:06
  They are made in Russia.
• 1:03:08
  They're flown from Russia to Latvia
• 1:03:09
  and then Latvia into the States.
• 1:03:11
  And as you know, from the last four years,
• 1:03:13
  the previous administration was not friends
• 1:03:15
  with Russia.
• 1:03:16
  So anybody who's dealing with Russia
• 1:03:18
  attempting to get bioregulators in the United States
• 1:03:20
  was not an easy deal.
• 1:03:21
  But something happened in the Ukraine war in 2023
• 1:03:24
  and all of a sudden as of January of 2024,
• 1:03:27
  bioregulator started showing up on Amazon.
• 1:03:30
  So my buddies in the compounding world
• 1:03:32
  and in the formulation world
• 1:03:34
  had always told me about bioregulators,
• 1:03:36
  but they were like, oh, it's a Russian secret.
• 1:03:38
  Kaffitson patented all the bioregulators
• 1:03:40
  you can't get them in the United States.
• 1:03:41
  But then again, something happened in the Ukraine, Russia war,
• 1:03:45
  whatever that debacle is.
• 1:03:46
  And all of a sudden they started showing up on Amazon
• 1:03:49
  in January of last year.
• 1:03:50
  So then, you know, my,
• 1:03:51
  I made calls, connections with people and stuff like that
• 1:03:53
  and we found out that you could basically just sell
• 1:03:55
  bioregulators as a supplement.
• 1:03:56
  That they just somehow passed it
• 1:03:58
  and they just look at them
• 1:03:59
  because they're oil capsules as a supplement.
• 1:04:01
  They're technically not supplements.
• 1:04:02
  In Russia, they're basically considered medications.
• 1:04:05
  But in the United States and in the West,
• 1:04:07
  they're a supplement.
• 1:04:08
  So there's a race to expose bioregulators
• 1:04:12
  to the American public and the Western public
• 1:04:14
  is they're amazing.
• 1:04:14
  They're literally amazing.
• 1:04:15
  So what was the reason for years that these were not?
• 1:04:18
  Patents.
• 1:04:19
  Patents.
• 1:04:20
  They just completely kept them out of the West.
• 1:04:21
  It was just purely Russian patents.
• 1:04:23
  And again, I don't know that 100%.
• 1:04:25
  I know that from the formulators and the biochemists
• 1:04:28
  that I've known who told me that for literally
• 1:04:30
  since probably 2008.
• 1:04:31
  But I was always, I was aware of them.
• 1:04:33
  It was just, I was like that taboo product
• 1:04:36
  that you can't get because they're stuck
• 1:04:37
  behind the Eastern walk.
• 1:04:39
  Are there any health concerns with these?
• 1:04:41
  Did they have no side effects?
• 1:04:42
  They're insane.
• 1:04:43
  I mean, I know it sounds crazy.
• 1:04:45
  They've only been in the market for one year,
• 1:04:47
  but there's massive studies.
• 1:04:48
  If you can read Russian or Bulgaria,
• 1:04:49
  and you can read about them.
• 1:04:51
  But no, there's, I mean, again,
• 1:04:52
  they're tissue specific, which is crazy.
• 1:04:54
  So when you swallow them,
• 1:04:56
  they target the actual organ or biological system
• 1:04:58
  that they're intended to target.
• 1:04:59
  And they have no breakdown in the body
• 1:05:01
  that causes side effects.
• 1:05:02
  I mean, honestly, when I say there are no side effects
• 1:05:04
  from bioregulators, there are no side effects.
• 1:05:05
  I mean, I've never observed a person in, you know,
• 1:05:08
  in knowing now for about a year and a half
• 1:05:10
  of people using bioregulators,
• 1:05:12
  I've never seen a single person
• 1:05:14
  who's had any more of poor effects.
• 1:05:16
  I've seen men who literally stopped having to go to piss
• 1:05:20
  in the middle of the night, taking good of not.
• 1:05:21
  Because they're so effective.
• 1:05:22
  It's incredible.
• 1:05:23
  Pennial on, which is the, the,
• 1:05:26
  the pineal gland bioregulator, dude.
• 1:05:28
  It's like, if you take that with high dose melatonin,
• 1:05:31
  there's a whole group of people.
• 1:05:33
  There's a researcher named Doris Law.
• 1:05:34
  You can Google her.
• 1:05:35
  She's a friend of mine and she's like the high dose melatonin
• 1:05:38
  like queen of the plant.
• 1:05:39
  And she's done tons of studies on melatonin.
• 1:05:42
  That they're taking Pennial on and melatonin
• 1:05:44
  in their astral projecting, leaving their body.
• 1:05:47
  Oh my God, it's incredible.
• 1:05:49
  Incredible, like they're talking about this.
• 1:05:51
  You can Google this and read about this.
• 1:05:53
  Now, I personally cannot use high dose melatonin.
• 1:05:57
  I'm like one of those allures
• 1:05:59
  where like the more melatonin I take,
• 1:06:00
  the more it stimulates me to be awake,
• 1:06:02
  which is bizarre, right?
• 1:06:03
  Because most people take melatonin to fall asleep.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, but then I also feel like garbage in the next day too.
• 1:06:08
  But depending on the level, exactly, right?
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, so you've all this experiment
• 1:06:11
  and melatonin, but that's what's really weird about melatonin
• 1:06:13
  is everybody's individually and biochemically unique
• 1:06:16
  with their experience with it.
• 1:06:17
  But I've done it.
• 1:06:18
  I've taken it with Pennial on.
• 1:06:19
  I have not astral projected.
• 1:06:20
  But I'm definitely like, well, I think most people,
• 1:06:23
  I mean, most people don't care about astral projecting.
• 1:06:26
  Most people just wanna like live longer, be healthier,
• 1:06:30
  feel better, but it is interesting.
• 1:06:32
  I mean, really your body, it's pretty awesome.
• 1:06:37
  I have this conversation a lot.
• 1:06:39
  Like, you know, what's your view on alternative medicine
• 1:06:43
  and I do like listen, my answer is, you know,
• 1:06:49
  in the West, incentives drive a lot of behavior.
• 1:06:52
  So I think there's a lot, the issue is that
• 1:06:54
  there's so much stuff that could work,
• 1:06:56
  but it'll never be studied by the people that should be studying it
• 1:06:59
  because it doesn't impact their bottom life.
• 1:07:01
  That's 100% metformin, right?
• 1:07:03
  Metformin is the number one anti-aging drug in the history of the world.
• 1:07:06
  It's actually finally in a big,
• 1:07:09
  it's in its fourth year at the Tain trial.
• 1:07:12
  Barsalai, I forget the guy's name,
• 1:07:13
  he's a famous Israeli researcher, is doing the study.
• 1:07:17
  I have been on Metformin for 20 years.
• 1:07:19
  I wrote the world's biggest article, you know,
• 1:07:22
  it's fighting on the Harvard and research EDU.
• 1:07:26
  All the reasons why people should be on Metformin,
• 1:07:28
  but it's exact same reason.
• 1:07:29
  Like, nobody will get behind it
• 1:07:30
  because they can't make money.
• 1:07:31
  It's off patent.
• 1:07:32
  We're selling it from our company now.
• 1:07:34
  But it's the number one most studied drug in history of the world, right?
• 1:07:38
  It's a plant that grows wild in the fields of France,
• 1:07:41
  but big farm of patent in the 40s.
• 1:07:43
  And then it started giving it the diabetic people,
• 1:07:45
  and then, you know, doctors unfortunately learn
• 1:07:48
  in their first year of medical school
• 1:07:50
  that metformin causes lactic acidosis in the kidneys.
• 1:07:53
  And so they tell people,
• 1:07:54
  you can't be on Metformin unless you're diabetic.
• 1:07:56
  But now we know that all the studies,
• 1:07:57
  and again, this trial going on,
• 1:07:59
  that it's the most powerful anti-aging drug in the world.
• 1:08:01
  It does all these amazing things.
• 1:08:02
  In fact, I tell everyone,
• 1:08:03
  like, if you're going to be on one thing as you age,
• 1:08:06
  you have to be on that form.
• 1:08:08
  It increases acrimoncia in the microbiome.
• 1:08:11
  It kills and crushes systemic inflammation.
• 1:08:13
  Dude, people that were on that form
• 1:08:14
  and during COVID never got sick.
• 1:08:16
  It couldn't get sick.
• 1:08:17
  It's such a powerful drug.
• 1:08:19
  But like you said,
• 1:08:20
  there's no incentives for pharma to push Metformin.
• 1:08:24
  There's no incentives for doctors to write scripts for their patients.
• 1:08:28
  Dude, I swear to God,
• 1:08:29
  I won't tell you this person is that you know this person.
• 1:08:31
  In 2014, he said to me,
• 1:08:34
  if Metformin and human growth hormone were in the water supply,
• 1:08:38
  there would be no hospitals.
• 1:08:39
  It's insane.
• 1:08:40
  It's absolutely insane.
• 1:08:42
  But so to think about that,
• 1:08:43
  they don't want health.
• 1:08:44
  There's no money yet.
• 1:08:45
  Like you said, incentives.
• 1:08:46
  It's profit.
• 1:08:48
  Don't want health.
• 1:08:49
  So then the issue is, you know,
• 1:08:51
  I think people can buy into that idea
• 1:08:52
  that they should take your health into their own hands,
• 1:08:54
  but it's a minefield of information.
• 1:08:56
  It isn't minefield.
• 1:08:57
  Oh, that is.
• 1:08:57
  I mean, do 25 years ago,
• 1:08:59
  when I was on the internet at the beginning,
• 1:09:00
  it was nothing but coal.
• 1:09:02
  And as you know, now the signal to noise ratio is so distorted.
• 1:09:05
  And also people, again, now people that...
• 1:09:09
  Okay.
• 1:09:10
  So we have doctors that don't know what they're talking about.
• 1:09:13
  We have pharmaceutical companies that are incentivized,
• 1:09:16
  only push the products they sell that they have patents on.
• 1:09:19
  But then we have social media influencers
• 1:09:21
  that only make money off the products that they sell,
• 1:09:24
  and they're not going to talk about anything else.
• 1:09:25
  Honestly, and did you know me now just from talking to me,
• 1:09:29
  80% of social media influencers don't know shit.
• 1:09:32
  I know that.
• 1:09:33
  They, let's just be very honest,
• 1:09:34
  they've not done their homework.
• 1:09:36
  They might, as a male or female,
• 1:09:38
  they might have an awesome physique
• 1:09:39
  and people look at them and say,
• 1:09:40
  wow, you know, the publisher does this person,
• 1:09:42
  oh, it's insanely dangerous.
• 1:09:43
  And this is the truth, too.
• 1:09:45
  And, you know, I'm an OG,
• 1:09:46
  clinical pioneer buyer hacker.
• 1:09:48
  A lot of people see me that I'll be 54 in February.
• 1:09:51
  I've been in the space for 30 plus years.
• 1:09:53
  And I've been doing the work, right?
• 1:09:55
  Like I've been doing shit on myself,
• 1:09:57
  working with other lab rats,
• 1:09:59
  working with people like I would never recommend any drug
• 1:10:02
  or any supplement to anybody
• 1:10:03
  if I thought there was risk, right?
• 1:10:05
  But as you know,
• 1:10:06
  there's a lot of Johnny come lately people out there.
• 1:10:09
  And they do one thing, and it works for them.
• 1:10:12
  And then they'll say that everything else is garbage.
• 1:10:14
  That's what they do.
• 1:10:15
  They become like these like almost like a zealot
• 1:10:18
  for like one kind of formula,
• 1:10:21
  one kind of diet, one kind of supplement.
• 1:10:23
  And they say that everything else is going to kill you.
• 1:10:26
  I feel so bad for younger people
• 1:10:29
  because they are coming up in a world
• 1:10:31
  of just complete distortion.
• 1:10:33
  Yeah, I know.
• 1:10:34
  You and I,
• 1:10:35
  I mean, I know you're younger than I am,
• 1:10:36
  but like we did not have it as bad as they have it now.
• 1:10:40
  Like everything for every five people on the internet
• 1:10:44
  that they research for are completely votes.
• 1:10:46
  So that wasn't the case even when I was sort of like going
• 1:10:49
  on my own health and wellness journey.
• 1:10:51
  I played a lot of hockey then got into bodybuilding
• 1:10:53
  and lifting and the guys that I looked up to.
• 1:10:55
  They were the guys that had like Lane Norton.
• 1:10:58
  Yeah, of course, like he's been around for forever
• 1:11:00
  and how did he, how did he, you know,
• 1:11:03
  prove that he knew what he was talking about?
• 1:11:04
  He would cite peer reviewed scientific journals.
• 1:11:07
  You do everything himself.
• 1:11:09
  Trying to think about the guy.
• 1:11:09
  There's like, where are some other big doctors in this space?
• 1:11:13
  Dr. Anthony J.
• 1:11:15
  What's the guy on what's his name on?
• 1:11:17
  These are like OG and bear.
• 1:11:19
  Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of them out there.
• 1:11:21
  And you know what, like,
• 1:11:22
  but they don't have big social media followers.
• 1:11:23
  They don't have social media followers.
• 1:11:25
  They'd write, they'd back up what their beliefs were
• 1:11:28
  with evidence and data and science.
• 1:11:31
  And none of that.
• 1:11:33
  They didn't use the latest viral hack
• 1:11:35
  to get a million views on TikTok and Instagram
• 1:11:38
  and build a following that they built a following
• 1:11:41
  based on the validity of their idea.
• 1:11:43
  Exactly, exactly.
• 1:11:44
  And now that they scientifically proved
• 1:11:46
  through experiments on themselves
• 1:11:48
  and the people at work with.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah.
• 1:11:50
  And nowadays, like you said,
• 1:11:51
  it's so out of control.
• 1:11:53
  The algorithm is a sham.
• 1:11:55
  I mean, it rewards.
• 1:11:57
  Sorry, but it's an explanation.
• 1:11:58
  Yeah, dude, it rewards.
• 1:12:00
  Because what happens is the disinformation.
• 1:12:01
  Then you're going to have people
• 1:12:02
  that are going to comment that this is bullshit.
• 1:12:04
  But then it's going to get shown to a large group of people
• 1:12:06
  because there's so much engagement on that post.
• 1:12:08
  That's exactly.
• 1:12:09
  So now you have to, so now you're,
• 1:12:11
  you know, you're just an average guy looking on TikTok
• 1:12:14
  or Instagram for fitness or health advice.
• 1:12:16
  And you're just looking at the thing with, you know,
• 1:12:18
  two, three, four, five, six million views
• 1:12:20
  and wondering, well, is this right?
• 1:12:22
  Is this not right?
• 1:12:22
  It's incredible.
• 1:12:23
  I mean, you know, I want to keep going deeper on peptides.
• 1:12:25
  But like we should talk,
• 1:12:26
  we should talk definitely about like diets, right?
• 1:12:28
  Because that's become the biggest circus of all time.
• 1:12:30
  Keto, carnivore,
• 1:12:32
  if it fits your macros.
• 1:12:33
  I mean, all that is utter nonsense.
• 1:12:35
  Because the truth is is that your diet,
• 1:12:38
  whether you're a man or woman,
• 1:12:39
  should be based on your energetic demand.
• 1:12:41
  And Charles Poliquin, you know,
• 1:12:43
  I know you know, Charles, you know, God rest his soul.
• 1:12:45
  I learned a lot from him.
• 1:12:46
  He was a mentor to me.
• 1:12:48
  He taught you that, or he taught that you had to remain
• 1:12:51
  metabolically flexible and he would always say,
• 1:12:54
  you get your carbs when you deserve them.
• 1:12:56
  And think about how genius of a statement that was
• 1:12:59
  because that's how you live your life.
• 1:13:03
  Don't avoid protein fats or carbohydrates.
• 1:13:07
  Use them in moderation relative to what you do.
• 1:13:10
  If you're a bodybuilder or a physique athlete,
• 1:13:12
  you need carbohydrates.
• 1:13:13
  Don't be retarded.
• 1:13:14
  If you're a fired man, you know,
• 1:13:16
  triathlete endurance performance,
• 1:13:18
  you can probably use a ketogenic diet, right?
• 1:13:21
  But like people just get so confused.
• 1:13:23
  And I see, and again, Instagram TikTok,
• 1:13:25
  there's millions of people going down the carnivore
• 1:13:27
  and the ketogenic diet road and all of them fail.
• 1:13:32
  Because again, I helped write a book
• 1:13:34
  when I was 25 years old,
• 1:13:35
  the ketogenic diet in theory and practice by Lyle McDonald.
• 1:13:38
  I was a crash to Stummy.
• 1:13:39
  Lyle McDonald, that's another guy.
• 1:13:40
  Hey, yeah.
• 1:13:41
  He was a very good friend of mine.
• 1:13:43
  He is completely insane, but he's brilliant.
• 1:13:45
  But he's completely insane.
• 1:13:46
  I mean, to be here is just fine.
• 1:13:48
  But like he's a brilliant guy,
• 1:13:49
  but like the truth is,
• 1:13:51
  is that being in a ketogenic diet long-term
• 1:13:54
  crushes your insulin metabolism.
• 1:13:55
  It recharges your insulin metabolism.
• 1:13:57
  I lived it for six months in my life,
• 1:13:59
  being in a ketogenic diet for two years.
• 1:14:01
  I couldn't eat carbohydrates.
• 1:14:02
  I would go to sleep if I ate carbohydrates.
• 1:14:04
  So all these people who are going down these paths,
• 1:14:08
  and again, I'll just specifically say carnivore and keto.
• 1:14:11
  Don't know what they're doing.
• 1:14:12
  They're being misled because you cannot avoid carbohydrates,
• 1:14:17
  protein and fat if you want to have a functioning metabolism
• 1:14:21
  long-term.
• 1:14:22
  We were designed intelligently, obviously,
• 1:14:26
  to burn through all those fuel sources.
• 1:14:28
  And there's a place and a time for each of them.
• 1:14:31
  And to avoid one or two of them to do one specific thing
• 1:14:34
  is only going to end badly.
• 1:14:36
  I think that, again, a lot of it comes down
• 1:14:39
  to who are you influenced by.
• 1:14:41
  And people treat diets like religion and politics.
• 1:14:45
  It's like, I can only be the only one who's right.
• 1:14:47
  So it's so well said, it's so true.
• 1:14:49
  And I think that it is the most toxic.
• 1:14:52
  It is absolutely insane.
• 1:14:53
  And also, on top of the fact that you can be,
• 1:14:57
  what was a term metabolically flexible, which is very smart?
• 1:15:01
  Also, you should understand your own energy level, too.
• 1:15:04
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:15:05
  Like, so for example, I don't like doing pure keto.
• 1:15:08
  I like lowering carbs during the week,
• 1:15:10
  so I don't have, like, a four-cloth question.
• 1:15:11
  That's the only way that you should do it.
• 1:15:13
  Again, you get your carbs when you deserve them.
• 1:15:15
  You just lifted, you just did something intense,
• 1:15:18
  you need to read, like a geno, you know?
• 1:15:20
  But it's, you do, people make it.
• 1:15:22
  But like you said, I mean, it goes back
• 1:15:23
  to the insanity of social media.
• 1:15:25
  They follow one guru who does all this.
• 1:15:27
  I mean, look, Paul Saladino, who was Mr. Carnivore,
• 1:15:31
  he's, to his credit, to respect Paul, shout out to Paul.
• 1:15:34
  He's come back. He realized he's like, you know what?
• 1:15:37
  I did it wrong.
• 1:15:39
  I put everything into that and I stopped,
• 1:15:41
  I screwed up my insulin tables and I have issues.
• 1:15:43
  And so now he's out there preaching to people
• 1:15:45
  to do it right.
• 1:15:46
  And so I think everyone has to learn that again,
• 1:15:49
  the key is not a specific diet.
• 1:15:51
  It's to remain metabolic flexible.
• 1:15:53
  And your metabolic flexibility might be different than mine.
• 1:15:56
  And you know, and again, through trial and error
• 1:15:59
  and research and living a clean lifestyle,
• 1:16:00
  living insulin controlled,
• 1:16:01
  you're going to figure out how many carbs you need.
• 1:16:03
  It's that simple.
• 1:16:04
  And then you have like the, you know,
• 1:16:07
  the most ridiculous example of just bullshit
• 1:16:09
  online is liver king.
• 1:16:11
  Where he's, where he's about, he lies about
• 1:16:14
  how much gear he takes, he lies about the cycle,
• 1:16:17
  he lies about being natty, he lies about his workouts,
• 1:16:19
  he lies about his diet.
• 1:16:21
  How amazing is that there to think that he built up
• 1:16:23
  that massive cult following?
• 1:16:25
  And this is a truth.
• 1:16:26
  And you know, I don't, we could go spiritual
• 1:16:27
  if you want to like, bro, people like to be lied to.
• 1:16:31
  Think about that.
• 1:16:32
  Most people that's comforting.
• 1:16:35
  It's the Jack Nicholson Tom Cruise.
• 1:16:37
  You can't handle the truth.
• 1:16:40
  The truth is for the most sincere.
• 1:16:42
  The truth is that you have, first of all,
• 1:16:44
  the truth is that two things can be right at the same time.
• 1:16:47
  100% and also the truth is that you have to think
• 1:16:49
  for yourself, which is the scariest part of the truth.
• 1:16:52
  Because if you have to think for yourself,
• 1:16:54
  that means that, hmm, I have to learn about macros,
• 1:16:57
  I'm gonna have to learn about lifting,
• 1:16:58
  I have to learn about hormones.
• 1:16:59
  I can't just take one person's advice
• 1:17:02
  and shut off everything else and just follow them.
• 1:17:04
  Like, and live my life exactly the way
• 1:17:07
  that social media tells me to live my life.
• 1:17:09
  Maybe I should be a critical thinking individual,
• 1:17:14
  the concerning individual.
• 1:17:16
  And that's very scary for people
• 1:17:17
  because there's no, there's no playbook for critical thinking.
• 1:17:20
  I mean, you're right, dude.
• 1:17:21
  I mean, sad, but just think about liver cane for a second.
• 1:17:24
  Like, how deluded would you have to be
• 1:17:27
  if you're a man or woman in your early 20s
• 1:17:30
  and you've exercised to not think that he was on gear,
• 1:17:33
  of course, and to listen to the lies
• 1:17:36
  and to follow and to get into that cult mentality
• 1:17:39
  or that cult of personality of like being, he's your hero,
• 1:17:42
  it just goes back to everything you just said.
• 1:17:44
  Like, you don't feel worthy as an individual to not be lied to.
• 1:17:51
  And that's why you're listening to that person.
• 1:17:52
  And dude, like you just said, so many of these people,
• 1:17:55
  again, I don't want to pick on younger people,
• 1:17:57
  but they grew up in a world where
• 1:17:59
  discernment and critical thinking was not taught.
• 1:18:02
  Dude, they asked this for the answers.
• 1:18:04
  I know.
• 1:18:05
  I mean, imagine asking a screen for the answer, dude.
• 1:18:09
  I tell people this all the time.
• 1:18:10
  I mean, I grew up in a world where I had to go to the
• 1:18:13
  cart, have a log in the library,
• 1:18:15
  and use the Dewey Festival system
• 1:18:17
  and then ask the librarian to go get the book.
• 1:18:19
  And then I had to read the book.
• 1:18:21
  And then I had to take notes and I couldn't highlight it.
• 1:18:23
  I couldn't use a screenshot of it.
• 1:18:26
  You know, it's getting even worse with AI now.
• 1:18:28
  I was thinking, but this the other day,
• 1:18:30
  this is going to be the first generation.
• 1:18:32
  They can outsource 100% of their thinking to AI.
• 1:18:35
  Every question you have, every email you want to write,
• 1:18:39
  anything you want to do, you can outsource to AI.
• 1:18:42
  It's insane.
• 1:18:43
  I literally, it's funny you just brought that up
• 1:18:45
  because I was on X, I love X, that's my place to go
• 1:18:47
  and do my cardio and just be outlandish.
• 1:18:49
  And I swear to God, dude, now X has GROC
• 1:18:53
  where before you send your post or your reply,
• 1:18:55
  you can click and it drop down
• 1:18:57
  and it rewrites your whole goddamn thing
• 1:18:58
  and does it for you, like you said.
• 1:19:00
  It's literally taking away the power of human ingenuity.
• 1:19:05
  I know.
• 1:19:06
  What world, why would any of us want to live in a world like that?
• 1:19:09
  Because humans, I don't know why,
• 1:19:12
  but I do know that humans are inherently lazy.
• 1:19:15
  That's easy, that's what my wife says.
• 1:19:17
  She says that people are just so lazy now
• 1:19:20
  that they can outsource or doordash or Amazon or anything.
• 1:19:25
  But only a degree, to a degree.
• 1:19:27
  So laziness serves people to a degree
• 1:19:29
  because if you are trying to build something
• 1:19:32
  or you're trying to be your best self,
• 1:19:34
  there's a lot of stuff you should delegate in your life.
• 1:19:36
  Be efficient.
• 1:19:37
  But I do think that there's some things
• 1:19:39
  that impact you cognitively, that impact your mind
• 1:19:42
  that you should not outsource.
• 1:19:43
  Who cannot outsource?
• 1:19:44
  You cannot outsource your writing,
• 1:19:46
  you cannot outsource your thought patterns.
• 1:19:48
  That's insane.
• 1:19:49
  And you're right, and that's where they're taking.
• 1:19:51
  It's too much to the extreme.
• 1:19:53
  So I don't mind, listen, if you're building a business,
• 1:19:55
  I mean, a lot of entrepreneurs listen to this show
• 1:19:57
  and this is so I spend a lot of my time around.
• 1:19:59
  You have to delegate to build anything meaningful.
• 1:20:02
  We're getting to the point we're delegating our own thoughts.
• 1:20:05
  That's an issue.
• 1:20:07
  That's an issue.
• 1:20:07
  And it started with social media,
• 1:20:09
  but now it's like, it's gotten even worse with AI.
• 1:20:13
  That's insane.
• 1:20:14
  I mean, like I said, I mean, I don't bro, I'm also reinforced
• 1:20:18
  by like traditional society and now media
• 1:20:21
  where I don't think for yourself,
• 1:20:22
  just listen to what we have to say.
• 1:20:23
  So every single part of our life,
• 1:20:25
  if you're not careful, is signaling outsource your thinking.
• 1:20:30
  It's insane.
• 1:20:30
  It's very...
• 1:20:31
  I'm a writer, obviously, an author,
• 1:20:33
  and you know, writing has always been a thing for me,
• 1:20:34
  and I refuse to use AI to write.
• 1:20:38
  I refuse.
• 1:20:40
  I literally, like people like some, you know,
• 1:20:42
  like even my company, the guys that run our co-founders
• 1:20:45
  and stuff, they'll be like, oh, it's something to AI
• 1:20:47
  and check, I'm like, no, we're not gonna do that.
• 1:20:50
  We have brains and we're intelligent people.
• 1:20:53
  Like, but to your point, there is a place for it.
• 1:20:58
  And so it's like, it's separating, you know,
• 1:21:00
  through discernment, like, where is the place
• 1:21:02
  that's not gonna derail you as a human being?
• 1:21:04
  Yeah.
• 1:21:05
  And I think that might, like you said,
• 1:21:07
  this new generation, how do they even,
• 1:21:08
  how do they even determine how to discern that?
• 1:21:11
  Well, I hope that if they listen to enough shows like this,
• 1:21:15
  and they realize that the people that they look up to,
• 1:21:17
  are critical thinkers and don't outsource their thinking,
• 1:21:21
  then they're gonna think, well, maybe if I wanna emulate
• 1:21:23
  that person or have even a fraction of their success,
• 1:21:25
  maybe I should sort of follow their rule.
• 1:21:27
  That's about the only opportunity, probably.
• 1:21:29
  The only chance.
• 1:21:30
  Be the role model for your kids, for the community,
• 1:21:32
  for the people that look up to you,
• 1:21:34
  for the people that you work with,
• 1:21:34
  you have to be the role model, I think.
• 1:21:37
  Okay, so let's talk about peptides.
• 1:21:40
  That's popular now.
• 1:21:42
  I have a couple of friends that I was telling you
• 1:21:45
  forward stress record.
• 1:21:47
  One of my friends, he's injured by a compounding pharmacy
• 1:21:50
  and he came from like the beauty space
• 1:21:52
  and he's tried every peptide.
• 1:21:54
  I mean, let's son on himself, yeah.
• 1:21:57
  I always hear about like Motsie and all these others.
• 1:22:00
  He's tried every way of, you know, God bless them.
• 1:22:03
  He acts like a little bit of a guinea pig, so I can't,
• 1:22:05
  I can't hate.
• 1:22:06
  But obviously these are very popular right now.
• 1:22:12
  You've been doing peptides for 21 years.
• 1:22:19
  First of all, why are they so popular now?
• 1:22:21
  This is a cultural phenomenon,
• 1:22:23
  what made them so popular in, you know, 2025?
• 1:22:26
  So I'm gonna give you the contrarian answer
• 1:22:28
  and I know this to be true,
• 1:22:30
  even though I had no idea.
• 1:22:31
  So my claim to fame in peptides
• 1:22:34
  is I wrote a book on peptides that
• 1:22:35
  published in February 1st, technically, you know,
• 1:22:39
  cause the Amazon gain.
• 1:22:41
  It went live on the 28th, but nobody actually saw it
• 1:22:43
  until February 1st, 2023 and it blew up, dude.
• 1:22:47
  It was the first real peptide book on Amazon.
• 1:22:50
  You know, everybody started talking about it.
• 1:22:51
  Obviously my name is an author
• 1:22:53
  from my hormone stuff helped, but it just blew up.
• 1:22:56
  And so we didn't understand what happened
• 1:22:57
  and I had a research chemical company
• 1:22:59
  that I affiliated for that I had a bunch of short links
• 1:23:01
  in there and they blew up.
• 1:23:02
  They went from doing $150,000 a month
• 1:23:04
  and sales to $800,000 a month and sales.
• 1:23:06
  And it just blew them up and now they're doing, you know,
• 1:23:08
  in the two and three million a month deal.
• 1:23:10
  But the bottom line is, and again,
• 1:23:12
  this is totally contrarian and very few people
• 1:23:14
  are talking about this.
• 1:23:15
  I have talked about this on the Mind Pump podcast.
• 1:23:18
  Dude, people were looking for alternative forms
• 1:23:20
  peeling from the Vax.
• 1:23:22
  It was the perfect, it was the perfect storm.
• 1:23:25
  It came out in February of 2023 and people were not telling,
• 1:23:28
  they were not, and as you know, most people who,
• 1:23:31
  whether they were forced or volunteered or whatever,
• 1:23:34
  it's a shame thing.
• 1:23:35
  They don't want to talk about it.
• 1:23:36
  They won't, they won't even admit
• 1:23:38
  that they're hurting from it, you know.
• 1:23:39
  And we know there's massive autoimmune issues.
• 1:23:42
  We know there's turbo cancers.
• 1:23:43
  This is not conspiracy.
• 1:23:45
  This is fact.
• 1:23:46
  I watched my wife's father die of turbo cancer
• 1:23:49
  from Vax and bloopers.
• 1:23:51
  I watched it.
• 1:23:52
  I saw what happened to him.
• 1:23:53
  And then I also dealing with him dying for a year.
• 1:23:56
  I saw what was happening in the medical system in California.
• 1:23:58
  And all these older men and women
• 1:24:00
  are dying of turbo cancers.
• 1:24:01
  It was literally, I don't want to rabbit hole,
• 1:24:04
  but that was some sort of a population control
• 1:24:07
  to get rid of the people not paying taxes.
• 1:24:08
  That's my opinion, but that's what I'm seeing.
• 1:24:10
  But bottom line is in 2023, when my book came out,
• 1:24:14
  it exploded in a mass consciousness,
• 1:24:16
  you know, through Amazon,
• 1:24:17
  through the research chemical company
• 1:24:19
  that I was promoting, everybody started talking about it.
• 1:24:22
  But no one was admitting that they were looking
• 1:24:24
  for alternative homes of healing.
• 1:24:25
  And peptides were offering that solution.
• 1:24:29
  Well, people realized how sick the population is.
• 1:24:33
  I think that's really a hundred percent.
• 1:24:34
  Well, now for sure, it fast forward to 2025.
• 1:24:37
  But that's kind of what blew them up
• 1:24:39
  because they were always a side show
• 1:24:42
  in the performance enhancement arena
• 1:24:43
  and the bodybuilding visit.
• 1:24:45
  I don't think they were ever doing it seriously.
• 1:24:46
  No, no, no, no, well, they weren't taken seriously
• 1:24:49
  by the doctors that I was like lecturing with,
• 1:24:53
  you know, like the big health conferences
• 1:24:55
  from 2017 is when they started becoming real.
• 1:24:58
  Oh, I meant like in the world of like Annabala.
• 1:25:00
  No, no, no, yep, they still aren't.
• 1:25:02
  A lot of bodybuilders still don't understand them.
• 1:25:03
  They pay me to like explain it to them.
• 1:25:06
  You know, they all the bodybuilding conferences
• 1:25:07
  want me to come and talk now.
• 1:25:08
  Like they wanted to put me on their main deal.
• 1:25:10
  And I spoke to the Olympia last year.
• 1:25:12
  And now I'm doing like big fit expos and stuff like that.
• 1:25:15
  So it's crazy.
• 1:25:17
  But yeah, they didn't see them as like as beneficial
• 1:25:20
  as they are now.
• 1:25:21
  But again, there's just more research now.
• 1:25:23
  The clinical space is obviously writing scripts.
• 1:25:26
  And you know, we'll get to it.
• 1:25:27
  But GLP ones have become the biggest drug in the world.
• 1:25:32
  And there's a reason for that and we'll get to that.
• 1:25:33
  But truthfully, peptides were very easy to manufacture.
• 1:25:40
  They all, and you know, I want to be very honest about this
• 1:25:42
  because you hear a lot of nonsense.
• 1:25:43
  Almost all peptides originate in Hong Kong.
• 1:25:46
  The synthesizing labs for the actual wall materials
• 1:25:50
  we call them Rawls, all come from China.
• 1:25:52
  So why is that?
• 1:25:53
  That's just because they built all the labs
• 1:25:55
  in the infrastructure.
• 1:25:56
  Infrastructure, as you know, is just so much cheaper
• 1:25:59
  to manufacture over there and build in technology
• 1:26:01
  as cheaper and stuff like that.
• 1:26:02
  And the efficiencies of scale.
• 1:26:03
  But the bottom line is, is that they ship out of there
• 1:26:07
  and then they go to other countries.
• 1:26:08
  And then a lot of the countries, including the USA,
• 1:26:10
  will manufacture them.
• 1:26:11
  And what we call finish them, bottle them, put them in vials.
• 1:26:15
  And then the USA and the USA manufacture.
• 1:26:16
  Bottom line is there within that.
• 1:26:18
  Now, truthfully, my company has USA manufacturer peptides.
• 1:26:23
  We're like the first research company to actually do it.
• 1:26:25
  Our lab is in California.
• 1:26:26
  We actually now have a backup lab in Philadelphia
• 1:26:29
  that was in six months, will manufacture all of them.
• 1:26:32
  They probably 80% of the Rawls are coming from China right now.
• 1:26:34
  But eventually it will be all USA.
• 1:26:37
  And the cool thing is, Scott, is that we're probably
• 1:26:39
  within a year of that changing.
• 1:26:42
  Because again, for what you say, they're becoming so ubiquitous.
• 1:26:45
  They're so big, they're mainstream.
• 1:26:46
  Everybody's talking about, you know,
• 1:26:48
  Rogan's talking about them, Huberman's talking about them.
• 1:26:49
  They're all talking about everybody
• 1:26:50
  talks about peptides now, which is a benefit for me
• 1:26:53
  because I know so much about them.
• 1:26:54
  But at the end of the day, they are a solution
• 1:26:59
  that offers effects with minimal side effects.
• 1:27:03
  They're not going to kill you if you overdose on them.
• 1:27:06
  They have so many applications.
• 1:27:08
  And again, the ultimate solution or answer
• 1:27:11
  for why they're so beneficial now is because they fundamentally
• 1:27:14
  treat the root cause.
• 1:27:15
  Whereas our pathetic medications are mandates, right?
• 1:27:19
  They're wrapping up or covering up symptoms.
• 1:27:21
  You know, medicating your symptoms,
• 1:27:23
  medicating you, making you feel bad,
• 1:27:24
  but then causing another issue.
• 1:27:26
  Whereas like you use a peptide,
• 1:27:27
  you know, we can talk about like say BPC 157, right?
• 1:27:30
  Because most people know what that is.
• 1:27:31
  It's body protective compound.
• 1:27:33
  We literally call it the Wolverine healing peptide
• 1:27:36
  because it literally accelerates healing
• 1:27:38
  at like 70 times natural healing.
• 1:27:39
  That's how effective it is.
• 1:27:41
  You find your wrist, your elbow, your shoulder,
• 1:27:45
  a ligament, you know, your ankle,
• 1:27:46
  and you can inject locally with a microscopic, you know,
• 1:27:50
  insulin, insulin, right into the origin of the injury
• 1:27:53
  and literally in two weeks, we completely heal.
• 1:27:55
  Versus previous to not having that,
• 1:27:56
  it would take six to eight weeks.
• 1:27:58
  You'd have to do intensive therapy, hot, cold,
• 1:28:01
  compression, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:28:02
  So it's, they're, they're incredible.
• 1:28:05
  And then you can fast forward to like every biological
• 1:28:07
  or organ system and you have a peptide
• 1:28:09
  that will help in all of them.
• 1:28:11
  So I think the issue is is still just the education
• 1:28:14
  because like you said, there's so much nonsense out there.
• 1:28:17
  And again, and I always say this and we'll kind of
• 1:28:19
  already mention this, but like if you are a diseased,
• 1:28:22
  what I call our coin dumps your fire.
• 1:28:24
  You do not take care of yourself.
• 1:28:25
  You're insulin dysregulated, you're metabolically inflamed
• 1:28:28
  and of course you're probably over fat.
• 1:28:30
  And you use peptides, you're not gonna get the same effect
• 1:28:32
  if somebody like you and I use peptides.
• 1:28:34
  And so a lot of people will start with peptides
• 1:28:37
  because again, magic bullet, magic bullet, right?
• 1:28:40
  And they don't get the same effect
• 1:28:41
  or they don't even get a good effect.
• 1:28:43
  And they're like, this is a scam or this doesn't work.
• 1:28:45
  And it's like, no dude, you gotta have the basics
• 1:28:48
  and the foundation set first before you use peptides.
• 1:28:51
  Cause dude, at the end of the day,
• 1:28:52
  peptides are no different than therapeutic disassessment.
• 1:28:55
  They're adjuments to a balanced and optimized lifestyle, right?
• 1:28:59
  But when you're optimizing a lifestyle standpoint,
• 1:29:02
  and we could talk about that for a second, right?
• 1:29:03
  Again, living in insulin controlled, you're exercising,
• 1:29:05
  you're getting enough sleep, you're limiting your exposure
• 1:29:08
  to EMFs and toxins.
• 1:29:10
  And then you throw in peptides, it's a world changer
• 1:29:12
  or a game changer, right?
• 1:29:13
  But when you're not, you're not gonna see the same effects.
• 1:29:16
  Now that's not to say, cause I don't want people
• 1:29:17
  to listen to this and think it's not true.
• 1:29:20
  Anyone can benefit from the healing peptides.
• 1:29:22
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:29:23
  But it should be part of the journey.
• 1:29:24
  100% yeah, it's not, it's not the origin.
• 1:29:26
  I got you.
• 1:29:27
  So if somebody is just getting into peptides,
• 1:29:30
  I know that you put together, which is wild
• 1:29:32
  and 93 page deck on every single peptide under the sun.
• 1:29:36
  But if you go through, let's go through like category
• 1:29:38
  by category.
• 1:29:40
  So when somebody's first sort of exploring peptides,
• 1:29:43
  first of all, I would say just,
• 1:29:46
  what should they start to look for?
• 1:29:47
  What are the parts of the, what are the different types
• 1:29:50
  of categories that they can learn about
• 1:29:52
  and they can start to explore?
• 1:29:54
  Sure.
• 1:29:55
  So again, peptides are either long or short chain
• 1:29:57
  signaling molecules.
• 1:29:59
  Most people who start off in peptides usually are for healing,
• 1:30:02
  right?
• 1:30:03
  They have an injury, tendon issue,
• 1:30:05
  sprain, ankles, strain,
• 1:30:08
  terribly give it whatever.
• 1:30:09
  And so they look into how can I heal faster?
• 1:30:11
  So the biggest healing peptides,
• 1:30:14
  and again, probably the majority of people that listen
• 1:30:16
  to this podcaster who watched this podcast,
• 1:30:20
  who are not even familiar with peptides
• 1:30:21
  have heard of someone using what is called BPC-157,
• 1:30:25
  which stands for Body Protective Compound-157.
• 1:30:27
  BPC-157 is an angiogenic peptide, which it means,
• 1:30:31
  which means it actually enhances red blood cell formation
• 1:30:35
  so that when you break a tendon or tear a tendon
• 1:30:37
  or sprain an ankle or whatever,
• 1:30:39
  it speeds the rate of healing.
• 1:30:41
  Now, there's another peptide that you want to usually take
• 1:30:43
  along with it that we love, that is known as TB 500,
• 1:30:47
  which means stymus and beta 500.
• 1:30:48
  And thymus and beta 500 is actually
• 1:30:50
  the inflammation suppressing peptide.
• 1:30:53
  So when you take BPC and TB 500 together,
• 1:30:56
  they work very synergistically to suppress
• 1:30:59
  like acute onset, inflamed injury,
• 1:31:02
  and they also speed the rate of healing.
• 1:31:03
  So they're both amazing.
• 1:31:04
  So there's a lot of companies out there,
• 1:31:06
  including our company, Balala and JVLabs,
• 1:31:08
  will make a blend of both TB 500 and BPC together,
• 1:31:11
  and then people will use that to speed the rate of healing.
• 1:31:13
  We actually call those peptides and combinations
• 1:31:15
  of wolverine dealing stack.
• 1:31:17
  Is that just for athletes?
• 1:31:19
  Or would somebody just go into the gym
• 1:31:21
  trying to recover?
• 1:31:22
  For anyone, I mean, literally 80-year-old people can use it.
• 1:31:24
  They're that amazing.
• 1:31:25
  So I mean, again, in our bodies,
• 1:31:27
  we have, you know, angiogenic signaling molecules
• 1:31:31
  floating around, but as we get over,
• 1:31:32
  we lose the ability to regenerate those
• 1:31:35
  or to regrow them faster.
• 1:31:36
  So injecting BPC 127 and TB 500 actually
• 1:31:39
  will increase the formation of red blood cell, lymph, IGF,
• 1:31:43
  and all of that to speed the rate of healing.
• 1:31:45
  So you, honestly, it's not exaggeration.
• 1:31:47
  You literally can accelerate your wound healing,
• 1:31:51
  again, soft tissue tenderness, healing at six to seven
• 1:31:54
  to eight times would have been normal.
• 1:31:56
  You know, people keep talking about, like,
• 1:31:59
  their age versus their biological age, testosterone,
• 1:32:03
  therapies, peptides, did those have an impact?
• 1:32:06
  Because I'm assuming, like, as we get older,
• 1:32:08
  if we do nothing, then all of our hormones
• 1:32:12
  get out of whack, they're not the same as when we were 20,
• 1:32:15
  and I'm assuming all these other things
• 1:32:16
  that peptides impact, those also decrease.
• 1:32:19
  And so do they actually start,
• 1:32:20
  this is part of like the age reversing stack
• 1:32:23
  that everybody talks about?
• 1:32:24
  Yes, 100 percent.
• 1:32:25
  There's actually specific peptides and bioregulators
• 1:32:27
  that increase telomerase expression,
• 1:32:30
  which means that that's going to actually prevent
• 1:32:33
  your telomeres from shortening.
• 1:32:34
  And again, telomeres shortening over time
• 1:32:37
  is what ages us both, you know, oxidatively
• 1:32:40
  and also through free-oxid radicals.
• 1:32:43
  So those peptides definitely do that,
• 1:32:46
  but all peptides, and of course, therapeutic hormones,
• 1:32:48
  growth hormone, if we're living a clean lifestyle,
• 1:32:51
  you know, all the things that we talked about previously
• 1:32:53
  or earlier on this podcast,
• 1:32:55
  will definitely improve biological age, 100 percent.
• 1:32:58
  So just going through different sort of use cases,
• 1:33:01
  so fat loss.
• 1:33:02
  So obviously, everyone's trying to lose fat.
• 1:33:05
  People know about GLPs,
• 1:33:07
  and I'm just looking at some of the ones that you list here.
• 1:33:10
  The ones that you list here for fat loss,
• 1:33:12
  there's a whole bunch of other ones outside of GLPs.
• 1:33:15
  And I think we'll talk about GLPs later
• 1:33:16
  because I think that's a whole other thing.
• 1:33:18
  What are the other ones?
• 1:33:19
  And actually, I would ask,
• 1:33:21
  why would you use, for example, AOD, 90604
• 1:33:24
  or Tesla Morellin or Sloop?
• 1:33:25
  Why would you use those over GLPs?
• 1:33:29
  You would want to use them in combination.
• 1:33:31
  Okay.
• 1:33:31
  So truly have the most effective fat loss, you know,
• 1:33:33
  protocol, but you know, just to talk about them,
• 1:33:36
  well actually there's a couple more I want to mention
• 1:33:38
  healing.
• 1:33:39
  So I'm just now for one, which is the immunomodulator peptide,
• 1:33:43
  which is the one that we talked about
• 1:33:45
  that I don't, everywhere I travel in the world,
• 1:33:47
  I carry it with me because if you get sick,
• 1:33:50
  you can inject it and it literally will massively suppress
• 1:33:53
  whatever is compromising your immune system
• 1:33:56
  and have you healthy and right as rain,
• 1:33:57
  usually within 24 to 36 hours.
• 1:33:59
  It's unreal and common cold.
• 1:34:00
  And I mean, anything, a viral illness,
• 1:34:03
  some sort of, you know, pathogen,
• 1:34:05
  you pick up on a plane or you're exposed to
• 1:34:07
  or something like that, it's profound.
• 1:34:09
  And then the other one, there's some,
• 1:34:10
  there's some bioregulators that also will help
• 1:34:12
  with speeding the rate of healing.
• 1:34:14
  But I would say for most people,
• 1:34:17
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• 1:34:19
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  Tell me the story about the peptide
• 1:37:28
  that probably would have been effective for COVID,
• 1:37:31
  but it wasn't.
• 1:37:32
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:37:33
  So VIP, which is vaso intestinal peptide,
• 1:37:36
  so that actually opens airways when you inject it.
• 1:37:38
  You can actually also snort it through an nasal inhaler,
• 1:37:42
  but they were actually using it in hospitals.
• 1:37:44
  This is all covered up, of course.
• 1:37:45
  You don't hear this now, but like back in 2021,
• 1:37:48
  when they were intubating people and killing them,
• 1:37:50
  some very smart doctors and obviously people
• 1:37:52
  in the research communities were like,
• 1:37:54
  no, you need to give them VIP
• 1:37:55
  and give them a nasal inhaler or inject them
• 1:37:58
  with VIP and that was literally opening people's airways.
• 1:38:01
  Because again, COVID was starving red blood cells of oxygen.
• 1:38:04
  That's what it was doing to kill people.
• 1:38:05
  And we didn't know that in the very beginning
• 1:38:07
  and even the medical community didn't know that.
• 1:38:08
  So they were intubating people and killing people,
• 1:38:11
  especially inflamed, comorbid people
• 1:38:13
  who couldn't handle the intubation.
• 1:38:15
  But once you started giving them VIP would open them up.
• 1:38:17
  If we're going to talk about VIP,
• 1:38:19
  we should mention one other one, this very powerful one.
• 1:38:20
  It's called LL37.
• 1:38:22
  And that is an antimicrobial anti-pathogenic peptide.
• 1:38:25
  And so like TA-1, which is an indenomodulator,
• 1:38:29
  if you get really sick, you can inject LL37
• 1:38:31
  and it will literally attack the viral agent,
• 1:38:34
  the virus or the viral invading agent
• 1:38:36
  or the pathogen like in the microbiome
• 1:38:38
  in a little wheel disabled.
• 1:38:39
  So it's really powerful.
• 1:38:41
  So if you carry these when you travel,
• 1:38:44
  when you're, you'll know when on slank,
• 1:38:45
  you never get sick.
• 1:38:46
  No, and I know a lot of people that actually do.
• 1:38:49
  So if you're going to travel and like have your anti-pathogenic
• 1:38:53
  or anti-sick or viral illness stack,
• 1:38:55
  you're going to carry TA-1, you're going to carry LL37
• 1:38:58
  and you're going to carry VIP with you.
• 1:39:00
  Yeah, okay, so that's the health stack, basically.
• 1:39:03
  Okay, so then fat loss.
• 1:39:04
  Talk about some of the ones that I mentioned.
• 1:39:05
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:39:06
  So the growth hormone agonist peptides
• 1:39:09
  are the most well-known for fat loss.
• 1:39:11
  And those would be in order of like use the case
• 1:39:14
  and notoriety would be, the first one is Tessamorellin.
• 1:39:18
  Now Tessamorellin is actually an FDA approved peptide
• 1:39:21
  known as a Gryfta.
• 1:39:22
  And they created that peptide to work with men who have HIV
• 1:39:27
  and a specific disease that comes from guys who have HIV
• 1:39:29
  and it comes from taking HIV meds,
• 1:39:31
  but it's called lipodistrophy
• 1:39:33
  and it's hard visceral abdominal fat.
• 1:39:36
  So when you inject Tessamorellin into that hard visceral
• 1:39:39
  abdominal fat, it's like it melts it, it burns it off.
• 1:39:42
  So a biohacker or a longevity person looking to lose body fat
• 1:39:46
  will inject Tessamorellin in their center mass,
• 1:39:49
  center ediposity, and due to, it's true.
• 1:39:51
  I say this all the time, it's like taking a hot knife
• 1:39:53
  to butter with that tissue.
• 1:39:55
  So is it like maize?
• 1:39:56
  It didn't say that, dependent?
• 1:39:58
  I mean, it's not that you could inject it pretty much anywhere,
• 1:40:00
  but because it specifically targets visceral body fat
• 1:40:03
  in the center mass, you want to inject it
• 1:40:04
  like right in the middle of the area.
• 1:40:06
  That's why, okay.
• 1:40:07
  Yeah, it's amazing peptide.
• 1:40:07
  And that's the strongest one from a fat loss measurement standpoint.
• 1:40:13
  The next one, and maybe the best one overall
• 1:40:16
  for both men and women, specifically women
• 1:40:18
  is called dippomorellin.
• 1:40:19
  Now, that's the peptide that you and I talked about
• 1:40:21
  when I first started using peptides in 2004,
• 1:40:24
  I used it and had profound results in success with.
• 1:40:27
  And then I gave it to my wife.
• 1:40:28
  When we first started dating back in 2012
• 1:40:31
  and changed her physique completely,
• 1:40:32
  but that peptide also increases IGF1,
• 1:40:35
  which is interstitial growth fluid,
• 1:40:37
  which again, increases natural growth hormone production.
• 1:40:40
  The amazing part about that peptide
• 1:40:41
  is it's the only one in scientific studies
• 1:40:43
  to show no increase in cortisol or prolactin.
• 1:40:48
  And it also does not disturb your body's natural IGF1 production.
• 1:40:52
  So you can take that and never disturb your body's growth hormone
• 1:40:55
  as you get older.
• 1:40:57
  The other one to mention is CJC1295.
• 1:41:01
  And CJC1295, a lot of the times,
• 1:41:03
  is actually compounded together with dippomorellin
• 1:41:06
  because it gives a stronger growth hormone,
• 1:41:10
  like enhancement than dippomorellin in isolation.
• 1:41:14
  However, some people, when they take,
• 1:41:16
  this is the one peptide that if there's like a side effect profile
• 1:41:19
  that people notice, and it's very not mild,
• 1:41:22
  they might get a flushing sensation when they inject CJC1295.
• 1:41:26
  But those are the three primary, like 5AOD you mentioned,
• 1:41:30
  is also a good one.
• 1:41:32
  It's one of those peptides that in theory is better
• 1:41:34
  than it is in practice.
• 1:41:36
  Most people who use it don't see as a pronounced effect
• 1:41:38
  is the other three that I just mentioned,
• 1:41:40
  but it is something that you can take.
• 1:41:42
  We actually manufacture supplement at BioLongevity Labs.
• 1:41:44
  It's an oral powder form of AOD,
• 1:41:47
  and when it's combined with some other small molecules,
• 1:41:49
  it actually is more synergistic for fat loss
• 1:41:52
  in a fasted state,
• 1:41:54
  then I would say people who inject it.
• 1:41:56
  I've used it going back seven or eight years,
• 1:41:58
  I tried it when it first came out,
• 1:41:59
  because like I said in the science,
• 1:42:01
  it shows it's really really good for fat loss.
• 1:42:03
  But sometimes the science doesn't show in practicality.
• 1:42:06
  I think also you have to make sure
• 1:42:07
  that like where you're buying it from, it's good.
• 1:42:10
  Yeah, because I think this is the issue with some of this stuff.
• 1:42:14
  You don't know who's making it.
• 1:42:16
  That's why you buy from BioLongevity Labs,
• 1:42:19
  and you're getting GMP certification,
• 1:42:22
  pharma quality products,
• 1:42:23
  but you're 100% right, you definitely know.
• 1:42:24
  Arnold jokes about this,
• 1:42:28
  but people of Arnold's body building error joke
• 1:42:31
  about how the drugs they used to take,
• 1:42:32
  they were so pure, so they took a lot less.
• 1:42:34
  100% true.
• 1:42:35
  And because they were not even illegal,
• 1:42:37
  that's how you could get it from a pharmacy versus now.
• 1:42:41
  Like we talked about earlier,
• 1:42:42
  drugs 20 to 30 years ago
• 1:42:44
  were way better than drugs now.
• 1:42:45
  Even, I mean, if you even get into like the party drug world,
• 1:42:48
  like anybody who took MDMA, pure MDMA 25 or 30 years ago,
• 1:42:52
  knows that the MDMA today,
• 1:42:54
  unless you get it from like an actual pharmacy,
• 1:42:57
  which they do make pharmaceutical medicinal versions
• 1:42:59
  of MDMA for people with PTSD, it's 30.
• 1:43:02
  It's cheap and it's water down with something.
• 1:43:05
  Exactly, it's water, no, that's the fentanyl is accurate.
• 1:43:09
  But I mean, that's the thing with drugs is like,
• 1:43:11
  as more people are exposed to them,
• 1:43:12
  the dealers and the middlemen and all those people,
• 1:43:15
  they always cut things to make more money,
• 1:43:16
  to make it go wrong.
• 1:43:17
  This is why I don't get why,
• 1:43:18
  if drugs are not, like I'm not talking about cocaine
• 1:43:21
  and MDMA, but peptides and some,
• 1:43:25
  I mean, like some testosterone authors
• 1:43:27
  that are actually beneficial to your health and longevity,
• 1:43:31
  when the government shuts this shit down,
• 1:43:34
  all they do is they create more danger for the consumer.
• 1:43:37
  Because now that you create more underground labs
• 1:43:39
  and more underground producers,
• 1:43:40
  and those guys who are,
• 1:43:42
  we'll get under, we'll get it.
• 1:43:43
  100%.
• 1:43:44
  We're still gonna go.
• 1:43:45
  It's like Rick Collins always used to say
• 1:43:46
  the famous, you know, performance and enhancement turn,
• 1:43:49
  he says, if there's a demand, there will be a supply.
• 1:43:51
  Yeah.
• 1:43:52
  You cannot, the genie is out of the bottle.
• 1:43:54
  I never, I wish that there was more regulation,
• 1:43:57
  not from like I love regulation,
• 1:43:59
  but when it comes to health and shit
• 1:44:01
  that you put into your body,
• 1:44:02
  you have to have quality control.
• 1:44:04
  So it's not, it's not about regulation.
• 1:44:06
  It's about not letting somebody make it
• 1:44:08
  in their back tub.
• 1:44:09
  Let's see.
• 1:44:10
  Think about this, though, Scott, like that's the scam, right?
• 1:44:12
  Because like the supplement industry is wholly unregulated.
• 1:44:15
  I know it is.
• 1:44:16
  But the pharmaceutical industry is extremely quality control,
• 1:44:19
  but we talk smack about big pharma
• 1:44:20
  because they make a lot of petroleum,
• 1:44:22
  just a little drugs that are obviously harmful for people,
• 1:44:23
  especially as they age,
• 1:44:25
  but yet we have no control of the supplement industry,
• 1:44:27
  and there are literally people, you know, I won't name names,
• 1:44:30
  but I know them personally who are scamming people
• 1:44:32
  and making hundreds of millions of hours
• 1:44:34
  selling fake supplements.
• 1:44:36
  Like I tell people this all the time,
• 1:44:37
  because I've been in this business in that space,
• 1:44:39
  and I don't have harbor any ill will.
• 1:44:41
  There's a lot of amazing supplement manufacturers
• 1:44:43
  and they make quality products,
• 1:44:44
  but for every good one,
• 1:44:45
  there's 10 people spiking their amino acids
• 1:44:49
  and literally selling bogus protein.
• 1:44:51
  And it's like if you don't know
• 1:44:53
  because you're a long-term consumer
• 1:44:55
  and you buy the right products and companies,
• 1:44:57
  you know, that have been in the game for 30 years,
• 1:44:59
  you have no way to know.
• 1:45:00
  Like we were talking, you know,
• 1:45:02
  previously about like young people today,
• 1:45:03
  there's so much decidable noise ratio
• 1:45:06
  is so high, most people buy supplements
• 1:45:08
  but there aren't even real protein powder.
• 1:45:10
  That's insane.
• 1:45:11
  Well, I mean, what happened with the Blackstone labs
• 1:45:14
  and they were putting, well,
• 1:45:16
  they actually, they were the opposite end of the spread.
• 1:45:18
  Actually, they were adding drugs into the,
• 1:45:21
  and that stuff on that happens all the time too.
• 1:45:23
  And all those guys,
• 1:45:25
  they know that they're eventually gonna get caught
• 1:45:27
  because all it takes is one person to test the product.
• 1:45:29
  Of course, but make as much money as we possibly can
• 1:45:32
  and then we'll move on.
• 1:45:33
  And that's literally what they do.
• 1:45:34
  And so that's what I always tell people,
• 1:45:35
  like, you know, I don't want to rabbit hole too much
• 1:45:37
  but supplements, you really have to be a wise,
• 1:45:41
  discerning, critical thinking and user
• 1:45:43
  because a lot of those companies will scam you.
• 1:45:45
  And if you don't understand what's in the product
• 1:45:47
  that you're taking, there's risks.
• 1:45:48
  Yeah, and even if you do understand
• 1:45:50
  what's in the product that you're taking,
• 1:45:51
  you're hoping that they're putting that actually
• 1:45:53
  in the product.
• 1:45:54
  And that was the thing that always blew my mind
• 1:45:56
  and when I was in the business myself,
• 1:45:57
  which thankfully I'm not anymore,
• 1:46:00
  is that dude, even if you bought it from the pure source,
• 1:46:03
  if you don't test it every single time that they send it to you,
• 1:46:06
  they could be scamming you themselves.
• 1:46:08
  That's scary dude, it's very scary.
• 1:46:10
  That's the supplement industry, man.
• 1:46:11
  Very scary.
• 1:46:13
  Okay, what about, what about a slew?
• 1:46:16
  Okay, so SLU, PP-332.
• 1:46:18
  Put it under fat laws.
• 1:46:20
  Yeah, so 100%.
• 1:46:21
  So it's technically a small molecule
• 1:46:23
  it's known as an obesity gen.
• 1:46:24
  It's been in the underground performance enhancement world
• 1:46:26
  since 2019, but no one, including myself,
• 1:46:30
  knew anything about it until like early part of last year.
• 1:46:35
  I started using it from a company that was selling it
• 1:46:37
  and then our company started manufacturing
• 1:46:39
  and now it's like everybody has it in marketplace
• 1:46:41
  because it's absolutely profound agent.
• 1:46:43
  It is a mitochondrial up-regulator,
• 1:46:45
  which means that it enhances energy production,
• 1:46:48
  it enhances fat loss, it improves torque generation
• 1:46:51
  or forced production.
• 1:46:53
  So every, any person who lifts weights
• 1:46:55
  or wants to look better naked
• 1:46:56
  can benefit from using that supplement.
• 1:46:58
  It's absolutely amazing.
• 1:47:01
  We're finding now that there's like all different types
• 1:47:04
  of dosage parameters and it actually,
• 1:47:06
  because it's a mitochondrial optimizing supplement,
• 1:47:08
  you can also use other supplements or peptides
• 1:47:10
  or bioregulators synergistically
• 1:47:13
  whether to enhance its effect.
• 1:47:15
  And that's why, okay, so you classify
• 1:47:18
  mitochondrial peptides in the same categories fat loss
• 1:47:22
  because they work through different pathways,
• 1:47:25
  but you're basically trying to achieve
• 1:47:27
  the same end result to a degree.
• 1:47:28
  Basically, we can talk about mitochondrial peptides
• 1:47:31
  right now anyway, but like,
• 1:47:33
  because I see MOTC is another one.
• 1:47:34
  Yeah, so MOTC, so just to switch that,
• 1:47:36
  but to answer what you just said,
• 1:47:37
  so mitochondrial optimizing supplements do a lot of things,
• 1:47:40
  but for most people to measure what they observe
• 1:47:44
  or see or experience or feel, it's gonna be fat loss.
• 1:47:47
  It's gonna be energy production and fat loss.
• 1:47:48
  And MOTC to talk about that,
• 1:47:50
  that's the best mitochondrial optimizing peptide
• 1:47:53
  for people who don't have healthy mitochondria,
• 1:47:56
  which is the majority of people, right?
• 1:47:58
  Because they're fat and flamed, insulin resistant.
• 1:48:00
  So when you give those people a nice bolus of MOTC,
• 1:48:03
  they become like us, they become energized
• 1:48:06
  and they wanna go to the gym and all of a sudden the gym.
• 1:48:08
  And then of course, if you're going to the gym,
• 1:48:10
  that's gonna be a pre-perser for losing fat.
• 1:48:13
  I see, okay.
• 1:48:16
  For muscle growth, is there anything,
• 1:48:20
  I mean, let's talk about you,
• 1:48:21
  you mentioned a lot of peptides
• 1:48:23
  that sort of activate growth hormones
• 1:48:26
  and they help increase your natural growth hormone production.
• 1:48:30
  So, which ones would be the most effective for muscle growth,
• 1:48:34
  but also are there,
• 1:48:35
  when people take peptides from muscle growth,
• 1:48:38
  are there any that even would remotely mirror
• 1:48:41
  like an anabolic steroid, or are they much lighter?
• 1:48:45
  So the answer is yes and no,
• 1:48:47
  we're not at that point where they're available yet,
• 1:48:50
  but there's one peptide that's in that deck
• 1:48:53
  that you have called ACE 031.
• 1:48:55
  And that is the actual first myostatin inhibiting peptide
• 1:48:59
  that actually works.
• 1:49:00
  And what I mean by that,
• 1:49:01
  that if you use a high enough dose,
• 1:49:03
  which as we spoke previously or off air,
• 1:49:07
  it's so expensive right now,
• 1:49:09
  that no one can technically afford it
• 1:49:11
  because it would cost like $12,000 for a month.
• 1:49:13
  Yeah, that's right.
• 1:49:14
  But illiterally or most of it does, it literally does.
• 1:49:18
  It's probably somewhere between six and 12,000 a month,
• 1:49:20
  depending on if you're a man or woman and how big you are,
• 1:49:22
  but it's still too expensive.
• 1:49:23
  But the reality is it does inhibit myostatin,
• 1:49:27
  which allows people to build muscle
• 1:49:30
  like in site-specific areas, right?
• 1:49:32
  So like if you injected it here in your shoulder
• 1:49:34
  and you have like lagging development,
• 1:49:36
  it would actually allow you,
• 1:49:37
  combined with all the other things, right?
• 1:49:39
  testosterone and the growth hormone agonist peptide,
• 1:49:41
  it would allow you to put size in a specific area.
• 1:49:44
  So we're getting into like the amazing,
• 1:49:46
  you know, parts of like what's coming,
• 1:49:48
  but relatively speaking body bills are gonna freak out.
• 1:49:51
  Oh, I mean, GLPs, when we talk about GLPs,
• 1:49:53
  I don't even believe it, but to answer the question
• 1:49:56
  about muscle building, again, Tessamorell and Ippamorell
• 1:49:59
  and CJC, combined with therapeutic testosterone,
• 1:50:04
  if you know, combined with sleep,
• 1:50:05
  combined with eating a caloric surplus, right?
• 1:50:08
  Because I always tell people, you know, people,
• 1:50:10
  and you know this from back in the steroid body building
• 1:50:13
  using world, but there really is no muscle gain or fat loss.
• 1:50:18
  It's literally a, it's all of them can work both directions.
• 1:50:22
  It's relative to whether you're in a caloric deficit
• 1:50:24
  or a caloric surplus, right?
• 1:50:26
  So a caloric surplus to build muscle,
• 1:50:28
  you would take Tessamorell and Ippamorell
• 1:50:30
  or you would take Ippam and CJC,
• 1:50:32
  along with testosterone, along with sleep.
• 1:50:34
  And then, you know, again, for fat loss,
• 1:50:36
  it would just be a caloric deficit
• 1:50:38
  and any of those things would also be.
• 1:50:40
  I've seen one that you listed here
• 1:50:42
  that you actually mentioned, IGF1,
• 1:50:44
  I've seen that in body building circles for forever,
• 1:50:48
  but I've always found that people say it's not worth it.
• 1:50:51
  It's not.
• 1:50:52
  It's 100%.
• 1:50:53
  Okay, so I have to caveat this.
• 1:50:55
  It's never been worth it until now
• 1:50:57
  because now there is follow statin.
• 1:51:00
  And follow statin is a form of IGF1.
• 1:51:03
  All the IGF1 that you saw, along with what I saw,
• 1:51:06
  you had injected, they sold it
• 1:51:08
  from research chemical companies
• 1:51:09
  and nobody would ever notice anything.
• 1:51:10
  And the reason that was
• 1:51:11
  is the majority of it was being denatured.
• 1:51:14
  So when they were putting it in the vials,
• 1:51:15
  it just wasn't stable as a molecule.
• 1:51:18
  So you weren't getting any efficacy from it.
• 1:51:19
  But now there is a company out there
• 1:51:21
  that I was telling you about.
• 1:51:22
  It's in Lithuania that's making follow statin.
• 1:51:25
  And they're putting it actually
• 1:51:26
  in a reconstitution solution that has flavonoids
• 1:51:29
  and also a form of exosomes.
• 1:51:31
  And dude, it's pretty amazing.
• 1:51:32
  I mean, I know people that are injecting
• 1:51:34
  so it's doing what it's supposed to do
• 1:51:35
  because it's stable now.
• 1:51:36
  It's literally building muscles
• 1:51:38
  in specific locations similar to what A031 would do.
• 1:51:42
  But A031 is obviously a myostatine inhibitor.
• 1:51:45
  So it's going to be a little bit more pronounced.
• 1:51:47
  But yeah, IGF1, you know,
• 1:51:49
  they actually, it's known as IGF1LR3
• 1:51:52
  and it's kind of long receptor three.
• 1:51:54
  But the point of that product,
• 1:51:56
  it was always hype.
• 1:51:57
  People would talk about it.
• 1:51:58
  And then bodybuilders would use it
• 1:51:59
  or underground performance athletes would use it
• 1:52:02
  and they wouldn't see anything.
• 1:52:03
  But it was always because they couldn't manufacture it
• 1:52:05
  at a level that kept the molecule stable.
• 1:52:08
  So when you would get it or I would get it
• 1:52:09
  or anybody would get it and you would use it,
• 1:52:11
  you'd be like, this doesn't work.
• 1:52:12
  This is a scam.
• 1:52:13
  And that's what it was.
• 1:52:14
  But I don't think the people that were making it
• 1:52:16
  really intended it for that.
• 1:52:17
  I just think they did that.
• 1:52:18
  Listen, again, a lot of this stuff,
• 1:52:20
  now it's more popular.
• 1:52:23
  And now you have, you know, smart people
• 1:52:25
  putting a lot of thought, chemistry is improving.
• 1:52:28
  But for the longest time,
• 1:52:29
  when the government makes something illegal,
• 1:52:32
  then you have all these, it is kind of scary.
• 1:52:35
  People trying to figure it out in their house,
• 1:52:37
  trying to figure it out.
• 1:52:39
  Bat's up bruised.
• 1:52:39
  Yeah, it's just, and that's, you know, totally true.
• 1:52:44
  The worst case scenario, obviously,
• 1:52:46
  it makes something that's actually very harmful
• 1:52:48
  to your health.
• 1:52:49
  And there's stories about people that buy stuff online.
• 1:52:51
  Baroids are sure.
• 1:52:52
  Thankfully, as we, that case scenario,
• 1:52:55
  it's just not effective.
• 1:52:56
  Thankfully, peptides really aren't going to kill you.
• 1:52:58
  You know, so they can make these things bad,
• 1:53:00
  but there's very rare, these systemic side effects.
• 1:53:03
  But obviously with, with antibiotics,
• 1:53:05
  you know, especially oral, like methyl testosterone
• 1:53:08
  or things like that, you can check your liver down.
• 1:53:09
  Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
• 1:53:11
  I think that that's like something
• 1:53:12
  that I really want to get across
• 1:53:13
  because for some reason, people just have this,
• 1:53:17
  they have this idea of if I'm injecting myself
• 1:53:20
  with something, I'm gonna die.
• 1:53:22
  And I think that I, it's full fix for the other,
• 1:53:25
  it said everybody thinks they're gonna get an embolism, right?
• 1:53:30
  And it's gonna go to their heart.
• 1:53:31
  Well, because the average, the average, like health routine
• 1:53:33
  doesn't include needles.
• 1:53:36
  Even like injectable B12, is it B12, I think?
• 1:53:40
  Yeah, it's B12, yeah, injectable B12, which is amazing.
• 1:53:43
  It's incredible for energy,
• 1:53:45
  but people are so scared of needles.
• 1:53:47
  Psychoball, yeah, remember when we talked about that
• 1:53:49
  tyranophobia, the fear of needles.
• 1:53:51
  So just because you're taking peptides,
• 1:53:53
  doesn't mean you're taking some underground steroids,
• 1:53:55
  there's no.
• 1:53:56
  And truthfully to speak about that,
• 1:53:58
  once or twice of an injection of either a peptide insulin needle,
• 1:54:02
  which again is microscopic, or as we were talking now,
• 1:54:05
  even better, and I would call it peptides 200,
• 1:54:08
  is the peptide to medical grade pens,
• 1:54:10
  which are literally 4mm,
• 1:54:12
  which you can literally inject into your face
• 1:54:14
  and can't feel it, right?
• 1:54:15
  Like women are injecting it for skin quality
• 1:54:17
  and skin health and beauty and stuff like that now.
• 1:54:19
  So where we're going, you know,
• 1:54:21
  knew when I were talking about it earlier too,
• 1:54:23
  is there's guys out there, one of your friends,
• 1:54:25
  they're inventing injector technologies
• 1:54:29
  that will literally be pain-free, right?
• 1:54:31
  So when we get to that level,
• 1:54:32
  now we're gonna be talking about like,
• 1:54:34
  wow, this is really gonna become something
• 1:54:36
  that everybody wants to take part,
• 1:54:37
  because, and this is my estimate,
• 1:54:39
  and I can't prove this,
• 1:54:40
  but this is just what my thoughts are on this
• 1:54:41
  and beliefs are,
• 1:54:43
  80% of the marketplace right now
• 1:54:44
  will still not inject themselves.
• 1:54:46
  The fear of injection is too much for them to overcome,
• 1:54:49
  even though we both know it's nothing,
• 1:54:51
  and it's something that anybody can overcome.
• 1:54:53
  And listen, I would say 95% of people
• 1:54:55
  initially have a fear of needles.
• 1:54:58
  But once you do it, it's like I like to say,
• 1:55:00
  it's like brushing your teeth,
• 1:55:01
  but you still have to get to that point where you do it.
• 1:55:04
  Some people, and again, women inject themselves
• 1:55:06
  more easily than men do,
• 1:55:07
  they'll have their wives or their girlfriends
• 1:55:09
  or some nurse or something that they know
• 1:55:10
  inject them with testosterone, right?
• 1:55:12
  And so they just do that,
• 1:55:13
  but they never do it themselves.
• 1:55:14
  And it's like, dude, you gotta learn to do this yourself.
• 1:55:17
  But that's the barrier of entry.
• 1:55:18
  The barrier of entry is like,
• 1:55:20
  if I have to inject myself,
• 1:55:21
  I'm not gonna do it, or I love injecting myself,
• 1:55:23
  because once you've learned how to do it,
• 1:55:24
  a lot of people just wake up in the morning
• 1:55:26
  and it's part of like,
• 1:55:27
  and especially with these pens and whatnot,
• 1:55:28
  and you're not getting these huge needles,
• 1:55:30
  you're getting these tiny little like pinpricks.
• 1:55:32
  Dude, I woke up this morning in my hotel,
• 1:55:34
  and I injected myself four times with my four pens.
• 1:55:36
  I took, and I read a true tide, microdose,
• 1:55:39
  I took my melanotan one to maintain my tan,
• 1:55:41
  and to increase my consciousness
• 1:55:42
  through this amazing podcast.
• 1:55:44
  What else did I take?
• 1:55:45
  I took my growth hormone, which I always take,
• 1:55:47
  and then what was the other one that I took?
• 1:55:49
  Oh, false that.
• 1:55:51
  So, and again, I wish I should have brought
• 1:55:53
  some of them to show you,
• 1:55:54
  because they're literally so microscopic,
• 1:55:56
  you could go like that, you could go like that,
• 1:55:58
  you can't feel it, you literally can't feel it,
• 1:56:00
  and then you just push the thing and you're done.
• 1:56:02
  Let's talk about longevity.
• 1:56:04
  And I guess anti-aging would fall into this as well.
• 1:56:07
  Like I noticed that some of these,
• 1:56:09
  some of these like go into different categories.
• 1:56:11
  Like I've seen it in everything so far,
• 1:56:16
  but specific anti-aging,
• 1:56:19
  what would be the,
• 1:56:20
  how do they work, what do they do,
• 1:56:22
  and what are the best ones?
• 1:56:23
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:56:24
  So, when you're using the anti-aging,
• 1:56:26
  you're looking at like the longevity ones.
• 1:56:28
  There's like three or four that are primary ones,
• 1:56:30
  and they're technically peptides and by-regulators.
• 1:56:34
  So the first one, the most well-known and the ones
• 1:56:36
  that most people have heard of,
• 1:56:37
  or maybe even used is called epithelon.
• 1:56:39
  Now epithelon is the actual telomerase
• 1:56:42
  extending bioregulator slash peptide.
• 1:56:45
  And so people will take that for 10 days in a row,
• 1:56:48
  like twice a year, depending on their age,
• 1:56:50
  and it literally improves telomerase expression in cells.
• 1:56:55
  So it will literally shorten, excuse me,
• 1:56:57
  it'll prevent shortening of your telomeres
• 1:56:58
  as you get older,
• 1:56:59
  which is obviously the number one reason for people to age.
• 1:57:02
  Now you can combine that bioregulator slash peptide
• 1:57:05
  with another one called thymolin,
• 1:57:07
  and to understand how that works,
• 1:57:09
  the thymus gland, as we get older,
• 1:57:11
  is what regulates basically our biological age.
• 1:57:14
  And most people's thymus gland stops,
• 1:57:16
  I won't call it stops functioning,
• 1:57:18
  but now functions and cessates into their mid to late 40s.
• 1:57:22
  So it's theorized, it's probably not theorized,
• 1:57:24
  because again, the Russians have researched on it,
• 1:57:25
  that if you use thymolin and epithelon together,
• 1:57:28
  you will extend the life of your thymus gland,
• 1:57:30
  which again is responsible for all sorts of all,
• 1:57:33
  call all systems health in the body.
• 1:57:36
  So you would do the same thing.
• 1:57:37
  So what most people do when they dose those two,
• 1:57:39
  is they take 10 days in a row of one day epithelon,
• 1:57:43
  next day thymolin epithelon.
• 1:57:46
  So it's every other day you're using one of them.
• 1:57:48
  And again, depending on your age,
• 1:57:49
  and most people it's recommended to start at like 40 or 45,
• 1:57:53
  you would take two courses over the year.
• 1:57:54
  And again, a course is 10 days.
• 1:57:56
  So it's like 20 days.
• 1:57:57
  And we haven't talked about this,
• 1:57:59
  but bioregulator is your cheap, bro.
• 1:58:00
  They're 39 bucks for a box, right?
• 1:58:03
  So it's not even expensive, super cheap, right?
• 1:58:06
  So and again, we sell these,
• 1:58:08
  you can't keep them in stock right now.
• 1:58:09
  I mean, people buy, I'm anti-aging people,
• 1:58:11
  longevity people, people that are into like living long,
• 1:58:14
  extending their life or buying them left and right,
• 1:58:16
  but it's not expensive.
• 1:58:18
  Like if you compare bioregulators to peptides,
• 1:58:20
  you're looking at usually like a one to four
• 1:58:22
  or one to five cost difference.
• 1:58:24
  Or a monster asherage for, oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:58:26
  And this is from research.
• 1:58:27
  We're talking about compounded,
• 1:58:30
  it's one to 15 X, right?
• 1:58:32
  Because again, doctors got to make their money.
• 1:58:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
• 1:58:35
  Of course, of course, yeah.
• 1:58:40
  What about, okay, so there's a couple other ones here.
• 1:58:42
  So ones that I haven't heard you speak about
• 1:58:44
  would be SS31 or GHK CU.
• 1:58:47
  Okay, so both amazing peptides.
• 1:58:48
  So SS31 is also a mitochondrial optimizing peptide.
• 1:58:53
  It's interesting though,
• 1:58:54
  because we are learning more and more about SS31,
• 1:58:57
  literally, I would say by the day, by the week.
• 1:59:00
  I started using SS31 regularly and religiously,
• 1:59:03
  and I want to say in April of last year.
• 1:59:05
  And the best way to talk about SS31
• 1:59:07
  is it's an amplifier peptide.
• 1:59:08
  So everything that you're doing, again,
• 1:59:10
  provided you're doing the right things, it amplifies it.
• 1:59:13
  So it improves like Androgen receptor sensitivity.
• 1:59:16
  So if you're using therapeutic testosterone,
• 1:59:17
  you can use less and it makes it more potentious.
• 1:59:20
  It potentiates it, makes it more efficacious.
• 1:59:23
  It also enhances your fat loss peptides.
• 1:59:27
  It just, like I said, it's one of those peptides
• 1:59:28
  where you take it like every other day,
• 1:59:31
  and it makes everything feel better.
• 1:59:33
  The other peptide that you mentioned
• 1:59:34
  is like what I call the sham wild peptide.
• 1:59:36
  So copper peptide GHK CU has so many applications.
• 1:59:41
  Women put it as a transdermal solution on the face
• 1:59:45
  to improve skin quality, eliminate fine lines and wrinkles.
• 1:59:48
  You can also inject it like so if you're a woman,
• 1:59:51
  then you've had work done on your face,
• 1:59:52
  whether it's like laser treatment or Botox or anything like that,
• 1:59:55
  like injecting small amounts or surgically precise amounts
• 1:59:58
  to actually get the skin more healthy,
• 2:00:01
  improve collagen synthesis.
• 2:00:03
  It's an amazing peptide.
• 2:00:04
  It can also be used to heal wounds and to eliminate scars.
• 2:00:09
  So like if you have, like for example,
• 2:00:11
  I just had a minute minute of skin cancer.
• 2:00:13
  This is only seven days old.
• 2:00:15
  And I was a pretty deep cancer removed.
• 2:00:17
  I've been using GHK CU, dude.
• 2:00:19
  And it's already, it's already clearing host on.
• 2:00:21
  That's insane.
• 2:00:22
  How long will we, I had this removed when I was in Texas.
• 2:00:25
  I'm in Texas.
• 2:00:25
  When I was in Mexico, I had my dermatologist down there remove it.
• 2:00:29
  And it was, what's today?
• 2:00:30
  Today's Thursday.
• 2:00:31
  So it was, it was done on the day before.
• 2:00:34
  So it's been eight days, that's what it was.
• 2:00:36
  And that was a deep surgical seven-stitch wound.
• 2:00:39
  And look at that, it's almost gone now from putting it.
• 2:00:40
  Insane.
• 2:00:41
  Yeah.
• 2:00:42
  So I mean, you can put it on.
• 2:00:43
  And by the way, once it's completely healed,
• 2:00:46
  I'll continue to put it on.
• 2:00:47
  And you don't literally get rid of the scar.
• 2:00:49
  Yeah.
• 2:00:50
  It's amazing because it's like a purplish blue powder.
• 2:00:54
  And whether it's transdormal or it's injectable,
• 2:00:56
  and it looks really cool.
• 2:00:58
  So it's almost like translucent when you put on your skin.
• 2:01:00
  But it absorbs to, to, to, to, or level of melanin.
• 2:01:03
  But it is a Zora, a small little scar.
• 2:01:05
  That would take care of that.
• 2:01:06
  No problem.
• 2:01:07
  That's a big, that's a big, yeah.
• 2:01:08
  Dude, I'm serious.
• 2:01:09
  When this is all healed, and that would be probably like two
• 2:01:11
  or three weeks from now, they're probably won't be a scar.
• 2:01:13
  It'll probably be just a tiny line.
• 2:01:15
  Wow.
• 2:01:16
  I, when I had my gynecomastia surgery in 2023,
• 2:01:19
  and they removed a lot of glandular tissue from here.
• 2:01:22
  Anybody who has gynecomastia has a lot of glandular tissue.
• 2:01:24
  If it gets done right, the scar was like from here to here.
• 2:01:27
  I don't even have scar anymore.
• 2:01:29
  And I used GHKCU for literally 10 days after,
• 2:01:32
  after the surgery, and it's gone.
• 2:01:33
  There's nothing.
• 2:01:34
  You can't even see the scar.
• 2:01:36
  These are ridiculously powerful, ridiculously powerful.
• 2:01:40
  Yes, and not enough people understand or know about them yet.
• 2:01:44
  But obviously, people like you and me
• 2:01:45
  are bringing this to more people.
• 2:01:48
  Are any of these patented?
• 2:01:50
  So some are.
• 2:01:51
  Because I mean, like I'm thinking about like,
• 2:01:54
  who makes money off of this stuff?
• 2:01:56
  Because what do you have now for scar?
• 2:01:58
  We gotta say it.
• 2:01:59
  So the FDA, the FDA of course, makes money off of the patented
• 2:02:03
  peptides, and the reason that they don't want,
• 2:02:06
  I wouldn't say me and my company,
• 2:02:07
  but compounded other peptides that can't be patented out there
• 2:02:12
  is because I can't make money off of them.
• 2:02:13
  So they're constantly regulating them, right?
• 2:02:15
  So we have to say what they did.
• 2:02:17
  We didn't talk about this, but in September of 2023,
• 2:02:20
  they passed this classification known as class two,
• 2:02:24
  and class two classified, and I could be wrong on this.
• 2:02:27
  But somewhere between 27 and 32 peptides
• 2:02:30
  that are the most used peptides by the clinical space
• 2:02:32
  and the research space as being potentially unsafe
• 2:02:36
  and harmful, which is total BS,
• 2:02:39
  which all the compound pharmacies that made them
• 2:02:41
  in mass quantities and were obviously prescribing them
• 2:02:43
  through their clinicians, fought them and sued them.
• 2:02:46
  And so there's just getting this back and forth,
• 2:02:48
  non-stop utter nonsense.
• 2:02:49
  But again, anyone who's used any of those peptides
• 2:02:51
  knows they're not uns...
• 2:02:52
  Why would they do that and set the,
• 2:02:54
  but why can't they make money?
• 2:02:56
  Why?
• 2:02:56
  Because they can't patent.
• 2:02:57
  And that's it.
• 2:02:58
  That's a hundred percent.
• 2:02:59
  So again, there's, and again, I could be wrong
• 2:03:02
  if somebody can fact-trick me on this,
• 2:03:03
  but there's like 12 peptides that are FDA-approved
• 2:03:05
  and all of them, they make a fortune on it.
• 2:03:08
  Is that all right?
• 2:03:08
  We're gonna get to GLPs, right?
• 2:03:09
  We'll get to GLPs.
• 2:03:10
  I told you about Monjaro, four billion last year.
• 2:03:14
  Just Monjaro, that's how much they made all of it, right?
• 2:03:16
  So like, we'll eventually get to a place where I would assume,
• 2:03:20
  again, and maybe, you know, shot out the RFK,
• 2:03:22
  he just got confirmed.
• 2:03:23
  But if he isn't able to pull back the restrictive policies
• 2:03:28
  of the FDA and all this pay for play, like with Big Pharma,
• 2:03:32
  I would assume that we'll eventually get to a place
• 2:03:33
  where there won't be any peptides legal
• 2:03:35
  from a compounded standpoint unless their FDA approved.
• 2:03:38
  Because if they can't make money,
• 2:03:39
  they don't want people out there using them.
• 2:03:41
  And again, and this is not conspiracy,
• 2:03:43
  well, you already know this, it don't want health.
• 2:03:46
  Sickness and disease is what makes money.
• 2:03:49
  Well, even if you look at other sort of medical treatments
• 2:03:53
  that aren't approved in the US,
• 2:03:54
  I mean, if you want stem cell treatment,
• 2:03:56
  don't you have to go to Panama or something like Mexico,
• 2:03:58
  Mexico, Costa Rica, that's a joke.
• 2:04:00
  And then there's also, I mean, now you have
• 2:04:02
  the ketamine clinics in the US,
• 2:04:05
  but the natural version where you take like the medicinal clamp
• 2:04:10
  aid, I don't think that's allowed in the US.
• 2:04:12
  You got to go to Mexico.
• 2:04:13
  There's one, and I know the guy that owns it,
• 2:04:16
  there's like, there's a, in a course, it's a church.
• 2:04:18
  Yeah, and Colorado, they just got their license
• 2:04:22
  to be able to legally do it.
• 2:04:23
  So you can go there on a retreat and get ketamine
• 2:04:26
  and get plant medicine and theogens and stuff like that.
• 2:04:28
  And it's technically legal, but they had to go through,
• 2:04:31
  I know the owner, they had to jump through all these hoops,
• 2:04:33
  dude, just to get official, you know,
• 2:04:35
  it's like essentially you're on indigenous spiritual property,
• 2:04:39
  you know what I mean?
• 2:04:40
  So it's like, it's so insane, dude.
• 2:04:42
  But yeah, I mean, all that is true.
• 2:04:44
  I mean, this country and hopefully things are changing.
• 2:04:47
  Again, Maha, if it is God for, I mean,
• 2:04:52
  God help all of us then thankfully,
• 2:04:53
  but the bottom line is they don't want health here.
• 2:04:56
  We have not had health here.
• 2:04:57
  We have what they want, sickness and disease,
• 2:04:59
  because sickness and disease is what makes money.
• 2:05:01
  Just like Chris Rock said,
• 2:05:02
  the money is not in the cure, the money's in the medicine.
• 2:05:04
  They don't want people healthy.
• 2:05:06
  And peptides, while we're talking about it,
• 2:05:07
  treat the fundamental root cause as do by regulators
• 2:05:10
  of disease and sickness.
• 2:05:11
  So you can hear someone who changes their lifestyle
• 2:05:15
  while they're taking those things,
• 2:05:16
  but you're never going to do that with
• 2:05:18
  with like pharmac medicines, because you have spandids.
• 2:05:20
  You know, it's wild to me, just if you think about other,
• 2:05:23
  other things that people try and solve,
• 2:05:24
  like cancer obviously, right?
• 2:05:26
  And you always, in the past year or year and a half,
• 2:05:29
  I've seen a couple headlines around a group
• 2:05:32
  that supposedly cure cancer.
• 2:05:34
  Yeah, but then it's 100% curable,
• 2:05:37
  but then it just disappears, of course.
• 2:05:40
  So, which is wild to me, isn't that like that?
• 2:05:42
  This shouldn't that be like on the news up here.
• 2:05:44
  This right now, Finn Benaz,
• 2:05:45
  all I can never pronounce that word,
• 2:05:47
  an Ivermectin together, cure cancer.
• 2:05:49
  There's a doctor on Twitter right now,
• 2:05:51
  his name is William Maccus.
• 2:05:52
  You can look this guy up.
• 2:05:53
  He is curing cancer left and right.
• 2:05:55
  They can't suppress him now.
• 2:05:56
  I mean, he's using those two drugs,
• 2:05:58
  which again, are garden variety drugs,
• 2:06:00
  Ivermectin during COVID and Finn baths as well.
• 2:06:03
  And they're basically like, they're mold suppressors,
• 2:06:06
  and then they're also like,
• 2:06:08
  they get rid of toxic conditions in the human body.
• 2:06:10
  You have to take high doses of them,
• 2:06:12
  but evidently, they are finding out,
• 2:06:13
  and this isn't applied to all cancers,
• 2:06:15
  but majority of cancers are ontological mutations
• 2:06:17
  of the cell, right?
• 2:06:18
  And so, an ontological mutation of the cell
• 2:06:20
  can actually be overturned by getting rid of the toxins
• 2:06:24
  from that mutation.
• 2:06:26
  And so, both of these drugs together
• 2:06:27
  work in combination to get rid of the toxins, bro.
• 2:06:30
  Guys are curing their prostate cancer,
• 2:06:32
  women are curing their breast cancer from it.
• 2:06:34
  I mean, so again, it seems William Maccus,
• 2:06:36
  but I would say within the next year,
• 2:06:38
  that's gonna be the number one treatment.
• 2:06:40
  People who refuse chemotherapy,
• 2:06:42
  and are like, I don't want my body,
• 2:06:44
  because as you know, chemotherapy
• 2:06:45
  literally toxifies the body.
• 2:06:47
  It supposedly kills the bad cells,
• 2:06:50
  but it also kills your good cells.
• 2:06:51
  So why would you do something like that
• 2:06:53
  when you can just do this,
• 2:06:54
  which only targets the mutations?
• 2:06:57
  What's wild to me is that there's not more research into it.
• 2:07:00
  Well, dude, there is, they just suppress.
• 2:07:02
  I know they suppress it,
• 2:07:02
  because again, even if you look at,
• 2:07:04
  if you look at new cycles,
• 2:07:05
  it'll pop up for a second, gone.
• 2:07:07
  And then it's gone.
• 2:07:08
  That's weird.
• 2:07:09
  That's weird when somebody says they,
• 2:07:11
  because if they didn't cure cancer, for example,
• 2:07:13
  say, let's play devil's advocate,
• 2:07:14
  say that their solution was garbage.
• 2:07:18
  You shouldn't they be like a strong up
• 2:07:19
  and indicted and put in jail for, you know.
• 2:07:23
  I mean, look, let's give props to Elon Musk
• 2:07:25
  and acts at this point,
• 2:07:26
  because in the last year,
• 2:07:27
  acts has become now this place where you can read anything.
• 2:07:30
  There's no suppression.
• 2:07:31
  Sure, they attempt to suppress things in other places,
• 2:07:33
  but like right now on axis, the wild won't less.
• 2:07:36
  And that information is out there,
• 2:07:37
  and I'll tell you this right now,
• 2:07:38
  like, I mean, I don't want to rob too much,
• 2:07:39
  but cancer, you've got to change your body's alkalinity,
• 2:07:42
  and then you've got to use these drugs
• 2:07:44
  that they're all talking about now.
• 2:07:45
  And a lot of them regard in variety drugs
• 2:07:47
  that will attack the mutation
• 2:07:49
  and not kill the healthy cells,
• 2:07:51
  which is what they've always focused on in killing cancer.
• 2:07:54
  And so I mean, you know,
• 2:07:56
  just keep it therapy work
• 2:07:57
  and obviously some people it does and has,
• 2:08:00
  but is it the best strategy?
• 2:08:01
  No.
• 2:08:02
  So seeing like people have some sort of proof
• 2:08:04
  that switching up your diet, ketogenic diet
• 2:08:07
  hasn't that limited exactly.
• 2:08:08
  Change your body's alkalinity.
• 2:08:09
  But like, listen,
• 2:08:10
  there's a small cancer scare in my family,
• 2:08:14
  and the doctor that the person is speaking to,
• 2:08:18
  like there's not even a conversation about diet.
• 2:08:20
  No, not even a, not even like a,
• 2:08:22
  not even a conversation about,
• 2:08:26
  okay, if you're gonna do chemo,
• 2:08:27
  let's do chemo,
• 2:08:28
  but maybe also be a little bit smarter about your diet.
• 2:08:31
  Like how does it have, how does it hurt?
• 2:08:32
  J.W.
• 2:08:33
  Is what actually exacerbates tumors?
• 2:08:36
  We now know that sugar from the diet,
• 2:08:38
  which again is normal everyday,
• 2:08:40
  Joe public and Cindy public,
• 2:08:43
  that's what they eat is sugar.
• 2:08:44
  Exacerbates the ontological mutations.
• 2:08:47
  So it's like we have to change the alkalinity of our body.
• 2:08:49
  We can go keto, we can do high fat, central fats,
• 2:08:53
  we can do Mediterranean.
• 2:08:54
  There's a lot of different things to do.
• 2:08:55
  In addition to now taking the bandazol and Ivermectin
• 2:08:59
  to overload the body's toxin,
• 2:09:01
  but my biggest issue is doctors won't even say,
• 2:09:04
  hey, I'm gonna put you on,
• 2:09:05
  I'm gonna put you on the approved routine of chemo,
• 2:09:07
  but let's also do these other things
• 2:09:09
  have the best possible chance of success.
• 2:09:11
  It is the worst part about that, which is hilarious,
• 2:09:13
  is like going to a hospital with somebody
• 2:09:15
  who's undergoing chemo and they do all that stuff
• 2:09:18
  and then they go down to the cafeteria and the hospital
• 2:09:20
  and look at the food they eat.
• 2:09:22
  Oh, he's in.
• 2:09:22
  I know.
• 2:09:23
  Cheer poison or a whole thing is a sham.
• 2:09:26
  Absolute garbage.
• 2:09:28
  Yes.
• 2:09:29
  Sorry.
• 2:09:29
  What do you think made your body a toxic place
• 2:09:31
  in the first place?
• 2:09:33
  It's a food.
• 2:09:34
  Okay, back to pet pee.
• 2:09:36
  Cognitive, enhancement and focus.
• 2:09:38
  So what are some of the ones that you like the best?
• 2:09:42
  So, neutropic peptides is what they're known as.
• 2:09:45
  Let's just talk about the ones I don't care for that much
• 2:09:48
  although they do provide value,
• 2:09:49
  dihexa, CMax and that's one of my slank.
• 2:09:55
  So, dihexa and again, for me, the gradient is,
• 2:10:01
  how do these neutropic peptides compare to metaphanel,
• 2:10:03
  which you and I was familiar with, right?
• 2:10:05
  Metaphanel.
• 2:10:06
  Explain what tradition on the tropics.
• 2:10:07
  So I would say that when somebody goes down this journey,
• 2:10:11
  in college, you're taking a whole bunch of adderol
• 2:10:13
  to stay up and do, and then in Canada,
• 2:10:16
  Ritalin was very popular as well,
• 2:10:17
  which is like a dirtier version of adderol.
• 2:10:20
  But net, yeah, yeah, and then you grow up
• 2:10:23
  and you realize that all this shit is garbage
• 2:10:24
  because you feel like shit.
• 2:10:26
  And maybe you passed one test, but then you start
• 2:10:29
  to learn about metaphanel and price tams and race tams.
• 2:10:33
  And these are kind of like the limitless,
• 2:10:35
  Bradley Cooper drug.
• 2:10:37
  Yes, and that's well said and well put.
• 2:10:39
  And that's kind of like where people,
• 2:10:41
  the origin of neutropics,
• 2:10:43
  where they would start not path.
• 2:10:44
  And again, you know, I have a funny story.
• 2:10:46
  I'm not going to tell up to this podcast.
• 2:10:47
  So like when I first got exposed to adderol
• 2:10:50
  and this is going back like 22 years ago.
• 2:10:53
  And I was like, whoa, I took like a 30 milligram
• 2:10:55
  extending release and I may have been partying
• 2:10:57
  previous to that.
• 2:10:58
  And so like it was like my serotonin was at a low
• 2:11:01
  and then I also injected back up and I was like,
• 2:11:02
  wow, but but the bottom line is adderol is poison.
• 2:11:06
  It's literally a synthetic form of meth.
• 2:11:08
  They give it to kids, you know, like you said,
• 2:11:10
  young high school and college kids in a melted brain.
• 2:11:13
  I mean, my god, I can't even get into like how bad
• 2:11:15
  it's for you long term.
• 2:11:16
  But the neutropic peptides in comparison to metaphanel
• 2:11:20
  with both of us agree that metaphanel
• 2:11:21
  is probably the strongest neutropic that we've ever taken.
• 2:11:23
  But it also has nasty side effects, causes headaches,
• 2:11:25
  has come down.
• 2:11:27
  I would say that dihexa is the closest,
• 2:11:30
  but you have to take a high dose.
• 2:11:32
  And as we've talked about on this podcast already,
• 2:11:34
  what goes up must come down, right?
• 2:11:36
  So you don't want to get addicted to taking
• 2:11:38
  high dose neutropic peptides because again,
• 2:11:40
  it's going to stimulate your brain.
• 2:11:42
  And your brain is going to be wanting to be at that level
• 2:11:44
  and you don't want your brain to be that level all the time.
• 2:11:47
  The other ones again, C-Marx and Selenck,
• 2:11:49
  don't notice as much as I do with dihexa.
• 2:11:52
  But again, everybody's different.
• 2:11:53
  Some people notice a decent, if not a strong,
• 2:11:59
  cognitive improvement or just enhanced focus
• 2:12:04
  on all three of those and out much lower doses.
• 2:12:06
  But again, for me, what I compared to metaphanel,
• 2:12:09
  I just have never noticed them, so I stopped taking them.
• 2:12:11
  There's one that we do want to mention,
• 2:12:13
  it's technically not a neutropic,
• 2:12:15
  but we talked about it off air, Tessa Fancy, right?
• 2:12:19
  Which is known as Tessa.
• 2:12:20
  That's the one that enhances brain-derived
• 2:12:22
  neurotropic factor.
• 2:12:23
  That's the one that people like us, creators,
• 2:12:26
  people that live in the creative realms,
• 2:12:28
  like it's an amazing, it's an oral.
• 2:12:31
  Then again, it's not a peptide,
• 2:12:32
  although it's sold as a peptide, it's a small molecule.
• 2:12:34
  You take it and it enhances well-being
• 2:12:36
  and improves flow state within an hour of taking it.
• 2:12:39
  And it's noticeable.
• 2:12:40
  And I would say the best part about it
• 2:12:42
  for most people, if not all people,
• 2:12:44
  it doesn't cause receptor attenuation
• 2:12:47
  and you don't have a cold,
• 2:12:49
  you can cold turkey come off of it and there's no.
• 2:12:51
  There's no condit diets.
• 2:12:52
  There's no calm down, there's no withdrawal.
• 2:12:54
  The only issue with that drug is,
• 2:12:56
  and again, this is my pet theory,
• 2:12:58
  is that if you were a person that was on SSRIs,
• 2:13:01
  because some depression, mood doctor,
• 2:13:03
  psychiatrists put you on them when you were younger,
• 2:13:06
  in some of those people, it makes them unable to sleep.
• 2:13:09
  They still feel amazing on it, but they're unable to sleep.
• 2:13:11
  So you have to take a very low dose of that product,
• 2:13:15
  and right now the ones that are available
• 2:13:16
  are 250 milligrams and 500 milligrams.
• 2:13:19
  So I would tell anybody who's used SSRIs
• 2:13:22
  in their past, start very low with that product,
• 2:13:24
  but that's my favorite of neutropic peptides.
• 2:13:27
  And again, it's technically before somebody calls me out,
• 2:13:30
  it's not a peptide, it's a small molecule,
• 2:13:31
  but it's a really, really powerful drug.
• 2:13:33
  So you can take it every single day of the week if you want.
• 2:13:36
  So here's the deal.
• 2:13:37
  I took it for an entire year straight at 250 milligrams
• 2:13:40
  and I was like, wow, this is great.
• 2:13:43
  But like everybody, I don't want to be addicted to something.
• 2:13:45
  I wasn't addicted to it because you could come off of it,
• 2:13:47
  but I don't want to be relying on it.
• 2:13:49
  So now I use it for things like this, which I took,
• 2:13:52
  as I told you, I took it yesterday,
• 2:13:55
  and I'm now I'm taking it today because I wanted to be there,
• 2:13:57
  and I wanted to be super lit and super on it.
• 2:14:00
  And so I take it to 50.
• 2:14:01
  But like, for example, I'm not gonna do another podcast,
• 2:14:04
  we're probably a couple of weeks,
• 2:14:04
  I probably won't take another one.
• 2:14:06
  Do you notice when you take it like your recalls
• 2:14:08
  a little bit better?
• 2:14:09
  It's amazing, everything, yes.
• 2:14:11
  I should have brought you a couple today,
• 2:14:12
  so I could have given you one, say,
• 2:14:14
  all right, nice son.
• 2:14:15
  You're gonna maybe see if I leave there on Miami,
• 2:14:17
  I'll give you some.
• 2:14:18
  I was actually thinking about that this morning
• 2:14:20
  on my podcast, but then I forgot,
• 2:14:21
  I mean, on my cardio, and then I forgot to bring it to you.
• 2:14:23
  You look good.
• 2:14:24
  It's all good.
• 2:14:25
  It's really, really powerful.
• 2:14:26
  I think that's the biggest thing with creators,
• 2:14:28
  and especially people that, in this audience,
• 2:14:29
  in particular, like people that are always on high performance
• 2:14:32
  people that have to show up cognitively.
• 2:14:35
  And they want something,
• 2:14:36
  it gives them like a little bit of an extra boost.
• 2:14:38
  Even if you look at Joe Rogan,
• 2:14:40
  and I think you took an equity position in on it
• 2:14:43
  from non-missing.
• 2:14:44
  I don't know how good it is, it's never used to it.
• 2:14:45
  Yeah, but those things, all those,
• 2:14:47
  I've used them all, the qualia and on it.
• 2:14:49
  They're all mild compared to, like, new tropics.
• 2:14:53
  But again, we've talked about this,
• 2:14:54
  like all new tropics, if you abuse them,
• 2:14:58
  which is using them all the time,
• 2:15:00
  I shouldn't say all, because Teso doesn't,
• 2:15:02
  but the majority of them will cause receptor attenuation
• 2:15:05
  and will cause burnout.
• 2:15:06
  And you don't want that, right?
• 2:15:08
  So it's like, you use these when you have to,
• 2:15:11
  but not when you want to.
• 2:15:13
  You know what I'm saying?
• 2:15:14
  It's not like every single day you wake up
• 2:15:15
  and you're like, oh, I'm gonna pop these.
• 2:15:16
  And if you compare it to coffee or caffeine,
• 2:15:19
  you know, I think we kind of mentioned this off air,
• 2:15:21
  but like, again, Sean Wells is now doing a lot of stuff
• 2:15:24
  with the analogs or the alcohol woods of caffeine.
• 2:15:27
  And so now they have paraxanthine.
• 2:15:29
  And some of these others are just,
• 2:15:31
  teocrains been around for like three or four years.
• 2:15:33
  These are all similar to what caffeine does,
• 2:15:35
  but with the less harmful agents of the withdrawal
• 2:15:39
  and the addictive qualities of caffeine.
• 2:15:40
  So you'll be seeing a lot more
• 2:15:42
  of those coming to the marketplace,
• 2:15:43
  which I think is actually good for humanity,
• 2:15:45
  because as you know, as great as caffeine has been,
• 2:15:48
  and my dad would always say,
• 2:15:50
  caffeine was the great industrial driver of the,
• 2:15:52
  you know, the industrial revolution,
• 2:15:53
  but we also know the caffeine is bad, bro.
• 2:15:56
  I mean, caffeine addiction is really bad.
• 2:15:58
  It screws up thyroid, it screws up your adrenal glands,
• 2:16:02
  it screws up sleep.
• 2:16:03
  I mean, long-term caffeine addictions are not good.
• 2:16:05
  Do you drink coffee at all?
• 2:16:07
  I don't drink any coffee.
• 2:16:08
  I do carry, you know,
• 2:16:09
  those little meow electrolyte energies,
• 2:16:11
  sometimes self-throw it in, like water to do it.
• 2:16:14
  You don't take a pre-workout before you work out?
• 2:16:15
  I don't do that, I know, I don't do a pre-workout.
• 2:16:17
  Like my pre-workout is sea owls at two and a half milligrams,
• 2:16:21
  right? So we haven't really talked about that,
• 2:16:22
  but sea owls is obviously a very powerful endothelial function
• 2:16:28
  and hamster, because it improves nitric oxide
• 2:16:30
  to the penis, right?
• 2:16:31
  But improving nitric oxide to the penis,
• 2:16:33
  it also improves nitric oxide to the vascular networks,
• 2:16:35
  which is good, right?
• 2:16:36
  You want less thunk in your vascular networks.
• 2:16:39
  So that's actually at a very surgically precise dose
• 2:16:41
  of anywhere from two and a half to five milligrams.
• 2:16:44
  In addition to the improved sexual function,
• 2:16:46
  hardening of the penis,
• 2:16:47
  it also improves nitric.
• 2:16:49
  Really, I've never, I didn't know you could do that.
• 2:16:51
  Oh yeah, no, that's actually next to metformin.
• 2:16:54
  That's probably the second most important anti-aging drug
• 2:16:56
  to take a micro-dose of sea owls.
• 2:16:58
  Really?
• 2:16:59
  Yes. It's that power.
• 2:17:00
  Yeah, I'll send you an article we wrote about it,
• 2:17:01
  like the 6 or 7,000 word article,
• 2:17:03
  but there's massive amounts of research on that, God.
• 2:17:05
  Amazing.
• 2:17:06
  OK, let's talk about autoimmune.
• 2:17:09
  Sure.
• 2:17:09
  So autoimmune is probably the most, I would say
• 2:17:15
  it's probably the most diagnosed disease in the world now.
• 2:17:18
  And this is all stemming from COVID, right?
• 2:17:20
  Like a lot of people who A got COVID,
• 2:17:22
  or A got that, or B got vaccine, or C got both,
• 2:17:26
  I have autoimmune dysregulation now.
• 2:17:28
  Women especially, right?
• 2:17:30
  It's become like a, I would call it a scarlet letter slash
• 2:17:35
  red badge of error to get an autoimmune diagnosis.
• 2:17:38
  And a lot of women will get like, can, you know,
• 2:17:41
  I have this and this and this and this.
• 2:17:43
  And it's like, the reality is, is the autoimmune
• 2:17:46
  is something not working with the mitochondria of the body,
• 2:17:49
  right?
• 2:17:49
  Just functional mitochondria.
• 2:17:51
  And again, there's so many different, there's
• 2:17:53
  crones, there's lupus, there's Epstein bar.
• 2:17:56
  I mean, I can go on, there's so many of them.
• 2:17:58
  And again, these things have exploded Scott since COVID,
• 2:18:01
  since the VAX, right?
• 2:18:03
  So basically, if you optimize the mitochondria,
• 2:18:07
  if you use the healing peptides, if you use the antimicrobials,
• 2:18:12
  like the LL37s, and again, you use them in surgically
• 2:18:15
  precise dosages, and you use them in combination,
• 2:18:18
  you can literally, again, assuming the people
• 2:18:20
  are willing to do the things also necessary as the baselines,
• 2:18:24
  you can reverse a lot of autoimmune diseases with peptides.
• 2:18:27
  Not like, I wouldn't say like, you know,
• 2:18:29
  you take a person who's got severe autoimmune dysregulation,
• 2:18:32
  and you give them peptides sac for a month,
• 2:18:34
  where they're not going to have it,
• 2:18:34
  but you can probably get them back to about 80 to 90% of what.
• 2:18:37
  And if you combine that with good diet, too, 100% cure.
• 2:18:40
  Yeah, 100% cure.
• 2:18:42
  What is it, Jordan Peterson, said he cured a lot of his autoimmune
• 2:18:44
  with like a carnivore diet?
• 2:18:46
  John was saying.
• 2:18:47
  Which is, again, the best way to describe that is,
• 2:18:49
  they change their body's alcohol underneath, right?
• 2:18:51
  So they went from like acidic sugar based to a meat based,
• 2:18:55
  or food, you know, animal prozoids.
• 2:18:57
  It's always like, it's, it's not just one thing.
• 2:18:59
  It's like, you're doing all the things.
• 2:19:00
  So people can't be looking for these bandages.
• 2:19:02
  You're not magic bullets.
• 2:19:03
  Night of the stuff we talked about in this podcast
• 2:19:05
  or magic bullets without lifestyle intervention.
• 2:19:07
  Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 2:19:10
  What's the last gut health is important.
• 2:19:12
  Everyone keeps complaining about gut health.
• 2:19:13
  So all the time.
• 2:19:14
  Yeah, so gut, so gut, I love talking about gut health
• 2:19:16
  because BPC 157 is also great.
• 2:19:19
  You can take an oral capsule, an arginine salt formation
• 2:19:22
  or formulation of BPC 57 helps with the gut.
• 2:19:26
  But the number one drug to help with the gut is metformin.
• 2:19:29
  In fact, metformin is the number one anti-aging
• 2:19:32
  drug of all time.
• 2:19:32
  It's in the tame trial right now,
• 2:19:34
  which again, is Neal Barsalize of very famous Israeli
• 2:19:38
  anti-aging researcher.
• 2:19:39
  And they're probably a year or two away from coming out
• 2:19:41
  where now the whole world will know about metformin, right?
• 2:19:44
  And it's always been blocked because most people
• 2:19:46
  in medical school were taught that it caused
• 2:19:48
  lactic acidosis and kidney problems.
• 2:19:51
  So they would never prescribe it to people
• 2:19:53
  who really truly need it for longevity purposes.
• 2:19:56
  And I think I told you off air, a very famous doctor
• 2:19:59
  that you know what I know,
• 2:20:00
  but he won't ever allow me to tell this,
• 2:20:02
  to say this because he doesn't want to get in trouble,
• 2:20:05
  said that if metformin and growth hormone
• 2:20:06
  were in the water supply, there would be no hospitals.
• 2:20:08
  He told me that in 2014,
• 2:20:10
  because that's how powerful they are, right?
• 2:20:12
  So metformin is suppressing systemic inflammation.
• 2:20:15
  It's upregulating acrimoncy and musyllis in the microbiome.
• 2:20:18
  So you can not get sick if you are on a 500 milligram
• 2:20:23
  or 250 if you're a woman, you know,
• 2:20:25
  bid twice a day, dosage of metformin.
• 2:20:28
  There's studies, probably a hundred plus,
• 2:20:31
  that show that during COVID,
• 2:20:32
  people that were on metformin didn't get COVID
• 2:20:35
  because it literally makes your immune system
• 2:20:37
  impervious to that kind of stuff, right?
• 2:20:39
  Dude, I've been on metformin for 20 years.
• 2:20:41
  My biological age is somewhere in like the mid to low,
• 2:20:44
  I wouldn't say low, mid to high 20s.
• 2:20:46
  And again, there's three different companies testing.
• 2:20:48
  You know, you've got glycon age,
• 2:20:49
  you've got true diagnostic, which is my good friend.
• 2:20:52
  None, just as mentioned this for a second.
• 2:20:54
  None of the diagnostic, I mean, excuse me,
• 2:20:56
  the biological age testing companies
• 2:20:58
  are ready for prime time.
• 2:21:00
  There's issues with them and all the owners
• 2:21:03
  and the people involved in the companies will tell you
• 2:21:05
  that right now the algorithms are still being worked
• 2:21:07
  and perfected and stuff like that.
• 2:21:08
  And they also don't have enough data, right?
• 2:21:10
  They don't have enough people doing these tests
• 2:21:12
  because I've seen people that have taken them
• 2:21:14
  who are in super, absolutely amazing fit bodies and shape
• 2:21:17
  and don't do any kind of drugs or alcohol
• 2:21:20
  and they get like high levels.
• 2:21:21
  And they're like, this is impossible and complain
• 2:21:24
  and then they redo the testing and tests
• 2:21:25
  like 27 years or 30 years younger than what was the first time.
• 2:21:28
  So there's issues with it, but my guess is,
• 2:21:31
  I mean, I still love all of that.
• 2:21:32
  I feel that within five to seven years,
• 2:21:34
  biological age testing will be perfected
• 2:21:37
  and it will be at a point where we can rely,
• 2:21:39
  we can feasibly rely on the actual scores that we're receiving.
• 2:21:43
  When they do those testing,
• 2:21:44
  there's a variety of different factors
• 2:21:45
  they take into consideration.
• 2:21:47
  But it's, I mean, it's mostly just a practice
• 2:21:48
  so they're just looking at your blood levels
• 2:21:50
  and looking at what's going on in the cells
• 2:21:53
  and looking at what's technically in your DNA.
• 2:21:56
  But I guess it's not ready for...
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• 2:23:01
  Yeah, okay.
• 2:23:02
  Heart health.
• 2:23:03
  Heart health.
• 2:23:05
  Heart is obviously critically, critically important
• 2:23:07
  as we get older.
• 2:23:08
  There is a bio-regulator called...
• 2:23:12
  I got cardiogen.
• 2:23:13
  Cardiogen.
• 2:23:14
  Yeah, I figured that was it.
• 2:23:15
  Yeah, because the other ones I recognize.
• 2:23:17
  So some of these are also like there's SS31
• 2:23:19
  from mitochondria, BPC 157 for vascular cardio repair.
• 2:23:25
  Sorry, red at true tide,
• 2:23:26
  which we'll talk about in a second,
• 2:23:27
  but that's I know it's GLP and then cardiogen.
• 2:23:30
  Yeah, so cardiogen is a oral peptide bi-regulator
• 2:23:33
  against small chain, small continually chain
• 2:23:35
  and it's got, there's a lot of people using it.
• 2:23:38
  People that have ventricular issues,
• 2:23:40
  people with aortic valve issues,
• 2:23:42
  people that have had stents put in their hearts,
• 2:23:44
  there were dumpster fires not taking care of themselves,
• 2:23:46
  it has been shown to strengthen cardiac tissue.
• 2:23:50
  So it literally is, you know, again, 10 days of,
• 2:23:52
  10 days in a row, twice a year,
• 2:23:54
  it will strengthen the heart,
• 2:23:55
  it will strengthen the bowel amount of time.
• 2:23:57
  Yeah, I mean, I'm talking to you,
• 2:23:59
  these things are profound.
• 2:24:00
  And not enough people know about them yet,
• 2:24:01
  because a lot of more people know about peptides injectable,
• 2:24:04
  but bio-regulators are such new Johnny come lately
• 2:24:07
  on the scene that not enough people know about them.
• 2:24:09
  You know, we're actually going to be,
• 2:24:10
  I would say bio longevity labs, our company,
• 2:24:13
  we're going to be probably doing the great majority
• 2:24:15
  of education of the planet of them,
• 2:24:17
  because like our whole next 12 to 15 months
• 2:24:19
  are about telling people about bio-regulators.
• 2:24:22
  Research, is the bio-hacking community,
• 2:24:24
  are they not jumping on this stuff, the bio-regulator?
• 2:24:28
  So here's the thing, they are,
• 2:24:30
  but the truth behind bio-regulators,
• 2:24:32
  if you're not connected, it's hard to get involved
• 2:24:35
  because they still come from Russia.
• 2:24:37
  So Dr. Victor Kavinson, who's the father of bio-regulators,
• 2:24:41
  and again, there's research conducts 60 plus years in Russia,
• 2:24:44
  they use these things that are like sold over the counter.
• 2:24:47
  He put a bunch of patents on them
• 2:24:49
  and so they never were available in the West.
• 2:24:51
  As of basically something,
• 2:24:53
  and nobody really knows truly,
• 2:24:54
  but at the end of 2023, in the Ukraine, Russia, US,
• 2:24:59
  debacle, whatever the hell that is, really,
• 2:25:02
  all of a sudden, bi-regulars start showing up on Amazon.
• 2:25:04
  And this is in January of 2024,
• 2:25:06
  and they were always blocked.
• 2:25:08
  You could never get them in the United States due to the patents,
• 2:25:11
  but all my formulator guys and my bio-chemist nerd research guys
• 2:25:14
  would always tell me the bio-regulators are broke, they're amazing,
• 2:25:17
  but we can't get them here,
• 2:25:18
  and then they just started showing up.
• 2:25:19
  So the problem still is supply chain.
• 2:25:22
  They're manufactured in Russia at the Kavinson Institute
• 2:25:26
  and whatever his manufacturing capabilities are,
• 2:25:28
  but his son, excuse me,
• 2:25:29
  Kavinson died in December of 2023, the father,
• 2:25:33
  and now his son is making eels with various companies,
• 2:25:37
  some guys in Amsterdam,
• 2:25:38
  the guys that own profound health or anti-aging systems,
• 2:25:41
  which is another big offshore or pharmacy
• 2:25:45
  that is now getting involved.
• 2:25:46
  And so now there's more and more people
• 2:25:48
  getting involved in the manufacturing home.
• 2:25:49
  So you'll see them,
• 2:25:51
  I would assume like in the next six to eight to 12,
• 2:25:54
  15, two years,
• 2:25:55
  become much more ubiquitous and much more mainstream
• 2:25:58
  because of their facts.
• 2:25:59
  But right now,
• 2:26:00
  there's not enough people in the bio-hacking space
• 2:26:02
  getting involved in it,
• 2:26:03
  because it's just too tough to get in.
• 2:26:04
  Exactly, it's too tough to get into the supply chain.
• 2:26:07
  Does the US government care about these being shipped in?
• 2:26:11
  I think they do,
• 2:26:13
  based on my experience
• 2:26:14
  and my personal involvement with them,
• 2:26:16
  because last year I was involved in selling
• 2:26:18
  a bioregulator cream,
• 2:26:19
  that's a healing cream,
• 2:26:21
  that we haven't even talked about,
• 2:26:22
  which we should,
• 2:26:23
  that is the most profound,
• 2:26:25
  trans-Normal healing product that I've ever seen.
• 2:26:27
  You can't use it on wounds,
• 2:26:28
  but you can use it on strains and sprains
• 2:26:30
  because it absorbs really, really quick,
• 2:26:32
  and it heals overnight.
• 2:26:34
  I mean, like you,
• 2:26:35
  injury or knee, doing debts or squats or something like that,
• 2:26:37
  you have a twinge in there,
• 2:26:38
  you rub the cream on the next day,
• 2:26:39
  so it's completely healed.
• 2:26:41
  No, I mean, it's incredible.
• 2:26:42
  And again, it's like five different bio-regulators
• 2:26:44
  that synergistically work together.
• 2:26:47
  So the answer is,
• 2:26:48
  I don't know, the jury's out.
• 2:26:49
  I do know this,
• 2:26:50
  they have labeled them as supplements.
• 2:26:52
  So anybody can sell them,
• 2:26:54
  there's no restrictions.
• 2:26:55
  That's why they're on Amazon.
• 2:26:56
  They're not considered drugs,
• 2:26:58
  they're not considered medications,
• 2:26:59
  or literally considered supplements,
• 2:27:01
  but I mean, the Russians would tell you
• 2:27:02
  they're medications and the way they work.
• 2:27:03
  And again, they're tissue specific.
• 2:27:04
  It depends on how the regulatory body views them.
• 2:27:08
  100%.
• 2:27:09
  All I know is,
• 2:27:09
  and again, I say this to people when they laugh,
• 2:27:11
  they're like, that's BS,
• 2:27:12
  jaceful shit,
• 2:27:13
  but they don't have side effects.
• 2:27:14
  They don't have side effects.
• 2:27:16
  Like you take them,
• 2:27:17
  they work specific on the organ system
• 2:27:19
  or the biological system that they target.
• 2:27:22
  There's a bio-regulator for the heart,
• 2:27:23
  kidneys, the thymus gland,
• 2:27:25
  the brain,
• 2:27:27
  the prostate,
• 2:27:28
  the ovaries and women,
• 2:27:30
  the testicles.
• 2:27:31
  I mean, there's just, it's incredible, right?
• 2:27:33
  So it's just,
• 2:27:34
  it's giving that information out to more people
• 2:27:35
  so that they can take them.
• 2:27:36
  It's like I told you Scott,
• 2:27:37
  they're not expensive.
• 2:27:38
  The average person can afford it.
• 2:27:40
  Last category before GLP's sexual health.
• 2:27:44
  So sexual health,
• 2:27:45
  primary two peptides,
• 2:27:47
  most known,
• 2:27:48
  and I'll mention two bio-regulators,
• 2:27:49
  are PT-141,
• 2:27:51
  which is an erectile,
• 2:27:52
  enhancing,
• 2:27:54
  it's really actually a melanin
• 2:27:57
  cord toy receptor complex peptide.
• 2:27:59
  Here's the problem with that drug.
• 2:28:00
  40% of people are non-responders.
• 2:28:03
  We did not know this when that peptide first came into the market
• 2:28:06
  and the underground back in like 2008 and 2009
• 2:28:08
  and very truthfully,
• 2:28:09
  because I heard so many great things about it.
• 2:28:12
  It never worked for me.
• 2:28:12
  And I was like,
• 2:28:13
  dude, what's going on?
• 2:28:14
  You know, I was like,
• 2:28:15
  you scamming me.
• 2:28:16
  But then about 2016, 2017,
• 2:28:18
  we started realizing that people were non-responders to it.
• 2:28:22
  Truthfully, I'm a complete non-responder to it.
• 2:28:24
  I'd used it like four times in my life now.
• 2:28:25
  It does not work for me
• 2:28:27
  for women that are non-responders and take it,
• 2:28:29
  they get sick.
• 2:28:30
  And what I mean by sick,
• 2:28:31
  I don't want people to freak out,
• 2:28:32
  but they get nauseous,
• 2:28:33
  and usually they have like vertigo,
• 2:28:35
  and they have to go to sleep there a couple hours,
• 2:28:37
  because it's don't feel good.
• 2:28:38
  They get like that dry heating effect.
• 2:28:40
  But for those people that it works,
• 2:28:41
  bro, it's incredible.
• 2:28:42
  I mean, a man can maintain an erection,
• 2:28:44
  like they're six hours straight,
• 2:28:45
  they can come three or four times,
• 2:28:47
  shorten a refractory period,
• 2:28:48
  it's insane.
• 2:28:49
  If you respond.
• 2:28:50
  If you respond,
• 2:28:51
  and for women,
• 2:28:52
  they also have a heightened sexual response to it too.
• 2:28:55
  The other one to mention is oxytocin,
• 2:28:57
  which I think most of your audience
• 2:28:59
  knows what oxytocin is.
• 2:29:00
  It's responsible for pair bonding.
• 2:29:01
  It's that kind of neuroendocrine hormone
• 2:29:04
  that is released during times of love and intimacy.
• 2:29:07
  So if you inject it,
• 2:29:08
  you get that same feeling.
• 2:29:10
  Now in some people,
• 2:29:11
  depending on what's in their stomach,
• 2:29:13
  what's in their small intestine,
• 2:29:15
  they may not get the same effect.
• 2:29:16
  But if you inject it usually in the morning
• 2:29:18
  on a fasted empty stomach,
• 2:29:19
  and you want to be intimate with your partner,
• 2:29:21
  it's pretty awesome.
• 2:29:22
  The other two to mention are bioregulators,
• 2:29:24
  and there's one called femy male,
• 2:29:26
  and male, I forget the name of it,
• 2:29:29
  that we sell both of them.
• 2:29:30
  And those are great for like perimenopausal women,
• 2:29:34
  and also older men,
• 2:29:36
  whose sexual function is declining,
• 2:29:38
  because basically it works on the prostate,
• 2:29:40
  it works on the testes,
• 2:29:41
  for females that works on the ovaries.
• 2:29:43
  So it's like,
• 2:29:44
  it's basically just like again,
• 2:29:45
  just consider it like an overall enhancement
• 2:29:47
  to sexual function.
• 2:29:49
  And those are oral capsules, by the way.
• 2:29:50
  So again, you don't have to worry about the needle,
• 2:29:52
  if that's a concern with these.
• 2:29:55
  When you look at all the new peptides,
• 2:29:56
  because obviously these are the ones that you've used yourself
• 2:29:59
  or you actually sell,
• 2:30:01
  when you look at all the peptides that are,
• 2:30:02
  now I'm sure there's ones that you haven't mentioned
• 2:30:04
  that are sort of very, very, very new
• 2:30:07
  that are not sort of proven out.
• 2:30:11
  I'm sure yeah, I have no doubt.
• 2:30:12
  What's the way to figure out
• 2:30:16
  if they're gonna be helpful, harmful,
• 2:30:19
  if there's no longterm studies on them,
• 2:30:23
  what could be the worst possible scenario with a peptide?
• 2:30:26
  Like how could it impact you in a negative way?
• 2:30:29
  I mean, it's hard to know.
• 2:30:30
  I mean, again, I don't know,
• 2:30:32
  because I'm asking the question
• 2:30:33
  that somebody is listening to this.
• 2:30:34
  Yeah, no, that's a great question.
• 2:30:36
  I mean, it's like anything in life.
• 2:30:37
  Like I've been personally using them now for close to 21 years.
• 2:30:41
  I started in 2004.
• 2:30:43
  I had nothing but success.
• 2:30:46
  I've never had any horrible negative side effects.
• 2:30:49
  Obviously my biological age is a lot younger
• 2:30:51
  than what I am.
• 2:30:52
  I'm almost 54 years old.
• 2:30:53
  I'm in great help.
• 2:30:54
  I'm in better as I told you,
• 2:30:56
  which we get to in GLP's in a second.
• 2:30:57
  My biomarkers are better than they've ever been in my life,
• 2:30:59
  even when I was in my early 20s, right?
• 2:31:01
  So all things being equal,
• 2:31:04
  I'm improving both from a biological age standpoint
• 2:31:07
  and then also just a physical performance standpoint.
• 2:31:10
  So I would just say like,
• 2:31:11
  we don't know the longterm effects of anything, right?
• 2:31:14
  20 years.
• 2:31:15
  20 years.
• 2:31:16
  Yeah.
• 2:31:16
  It's a lot of time.
• 2:31:17
  But the truth is, to be honest, we don't know.
• 2:31:20
  But we know that there are biological, organic molecules
• 2:31:25
  that are formed in nature and in our bodies naturally.
• 2:31:28
  So what is the potential harm compared,
• 2:31:30
  if we compare them to, again,
• 2:31:32
  Rockefeller, petroleum distillate,
• 2:31:33
  big pharma medications, which are not natural
• 2:31:36
  and not naturally occurring, right?
• 2:31:37
  So like if you're going to compare and contrast,
• 2:31:39
  I would definitely put my money on peptides
• 2:31:42
  and by regulators long-term that I would those drugs.
• 2:31:45
  Are there some that sort of arousal,
• 2:31:48
  you don't sell them,
• 2:31:49
  but arousal that are actually dangerous?
• 2:31:51
  You know, again, Tim Ferriss,
• 2:31:54
  the difference between a pill and a poison is the dosage.
• 2:31:56
  I think there's none that are like, don't take this.
• 2:31:58
  No, no, no.
• 2:31:59
  I mean, but the thing is, it's like, again,
• 2:32:02
  you have to be judicious.
• 2:32:04
  Start low goes slow,
• 2:32:05
  assess your tolerance, how do you respond?
• 2:32:07
  What happens?
• 2:32:08
  Don't start taking high dosages.
• 2:32:10
  For example, fluke.
• 2:32:11
  There were people out there messaging me
• 2:32:13
  all over the world who were taking 500 times the dosage level.
• 2:32:19
  Because they're retarded, bro.
• 2:32:20
  More must be better, right?
• 2:32:21
  Super size me.
• 2:32:23
  Pick your stomach faster.
• 2:32:23
  You know what I mean?
• 2:32:24
  So it's like, if you're not smart with what you're doing,
• 2:32:27
  is the risk of course.
• 2:32:29
  If you take too many aspirin or motrin or ibuprofen,
• 2:32:32
  you can fuck up your kidneys.
• 2:32:34
  So it's again, be judicious in how you use these things,
• 2:32:37
  but I have not seen anything that would like tell me
• 2:32:39
  like, oh, there's super risk.
• 2:32:41
  Okay, let's talk about GLPs.
• 2:32:42
  For sure.
• 2:32:43
  So started off with ozempic
• 2:32:47
  and now we have minjarro
• 2:32:49
  and now there's other ones as well.
• 2:32:52
  But what should people know about GLPs?
• 2:32:54
  Because there's also a lot of, no, I see some negative.
• 2:32:57
  I see.
• 2:32:58
  It's more negative propaganda than there is positive.
• 2:33:00
  I just saw on Twitter, somebody,
• 2:33:03
  it was a trending news article,
• 2:33:04
  you know, on the right side of Twitter,
• 2:33:05
  you see all the trending stuff.
• 2:33:06
  And it said that people taking minjarro,
• 2:33:08
  it tries to epitide, some of them went blind.
• 2:33:11
  Yeah.
• 2:33:12
  Because of blood vessels.
• 2:33:13
  It leads.
• 2:33:14
  So there's a lot to unpack.
• 2:33:16
  So to start off, GLPs have been around since 2008,
• 2:33:21
  which is insane to think about it
• 2:33:22
  because most people don't know what a GLP was
• 2:33:24
  until the last couple of years.
• 2:33:26
  But they've been around since 2008
• 2:33:27
  and they're very rudimentary phase.
• 2:33:29
  They were used in obese people and type two diabetics,
• 2:33:32
  even then when they were very, very rudimentary and crude,
• 2:33:35
  as far as their original format, they still work.
• 2:33:37
  They still, I mean, by defined work,
• 2:33:39
  it was the lowered peoples A1C,
• 2:33:42
  they improved blood glucose regulation.
• 2:33:43
  And ultimately, if those people change their diet
• 2:33:46
  and lived insulin control, they lost body fat, right?
• 2:33:49
  And again, this is way before what we have now.
• 2:33:51
  Now, fast forward to now.
• 2:33:53
  And as you and I have already talked,
• 2:33:55
  the average person today is so fucking lazy, bro.
• 2:33:58
  They want the lowest action, common denominator,
• 2:34:01
  how can I get away with doing the least amount of work, right?
• 2:34:03
  So take that attitude, that mindset,
• 2:34:05
  and then realize that the average doctor prescribing a GLP
• 2:34:10
  is not even, doesn't even know what they're doing, right?
• 2:34:12
  They go to a weekend class, a farm rep comes in,
• 2:34:15
  and says, hey, you can make an extra 30 grand a month
• 2:34:17
  if you promote ozemic, right?
• 2:34:19
  So like, these are people, again, the doctors
• 2:34:22
  who are doing their best, I understand,
• 2:34:24
  who don't understand how to prescribe them.
• 2:34:26
  They're not giving the patient slash the person,
• 2:34:29
  the actual, you know, methodologies,
• 2:34:30
  which we'll get to of like, how do you make GLPs work?
• 2:34:34
  And so then what happens is, and again,
• 2:34:35
  remember these people are obese,
• 2:34:37
  they're all insulin resistant,
• 2:34:38
  metabolically deranged, they start taking them,
• 2:34:40
  and the weight comes off because they're not eating,
• 2:34:42
  they're not stopping their pie holding more,
• 2:34:44
  it suppresses their appetite, especially where go we.
• 2:34:46
  And three weeks go by and they've lost like 60 pounds.
• 2:34:50
  But what they don't realize by not eating enough protein,
• 2:34:53
  by not exercising, by not doing resistance training,
• 2:34:56
  they've now damaged their thyroid,
• 2:34:58
  they've damaged their body's ability to be
• 2:35:00
  in a positive nitrogen state
• 2:35:02
  because they're not getting enough protein.
• 2:35:04
  So dude, four weeks now they're in,
• 2:35:07
  their doctor has been titrating the dosage higher
• 2:35:09
  and higher and higher because as we've said,
• 2:35:11
  or as I said, at various points in this podcast,
• 2:35:13
  big pharma motto is start high, go higher.
• 2:35:16
  Met more money.
• 2:35:17
  Exactly.
• 2:35:18
  And again, it's it's synergistic thing, right?
• 2:35:20
  Because the doc makes more money
• 2:35:22
  and big pharma makes more money, right?
• 2:35:23
  So like they're both incentivized to give more.
• 2:35:26
  So at four weeks in, giving more,
• 2:35:29
  now the person is like at a crossroads
• 2:35:31
  because a, the doctors are like,
• 2:35:33
  well, yeah, but guess what now you're,
• 2:35:35
  now you're monthly dose is just gonna be $4,000.
• 2:35:37
  Or $3,500 or whatever it is.
• 2:35:39
  And so they're like, oh, fuck, I can't afford this.
• 2:35:41
  And so they come off.
• 2:35:42
  And now they're in a shit, they're in, in shit to build.
• 2:35:45
  Because the damage with thyroid,
• 2:35:48
  they have caused muscle loss and now rebound.
• 2:35:50
  So the resting metabolism is also lower.
• 2:35:52
  Everything is damaged.
• 2:35:53
  Now the rebound weight gain comes.
• 2:35:56
  These people are now taking to the streets,
• 2:35:58
  to the airwaves, to social media.
• 2:36:00
  And they're gonna start telling everybody
• 2:36:02
  how bad it was for them, right?
• 2:36:03
  Now the truth Scott is those same people
• 2:36:07
  have issues with their eye.
• 2:36:09
  They have issues with their gold bladder.
• 2:36:11
  They have issues with their thyroid.
• 2:36:12
  They have all these, you know, will go be faced,
• 2:36:14
  because I'll be next.
• 2:36:15
  I'll go be bow on woman who was taking it,
• 2:36:17
  who was already super skinny.
• 2:36:19
  And she was taking it just for probably doctor recommended dosing,
• 2:36:22
  but to probably not have the food noise and the hunger pains.
• 2:36:26
  And then she doesn't work out, doesn't have a good diet.
• 2:36:29
  And then she tried to even eat for three weeks.
• 2:36:31
  She broke, she had no bone density.
• 2:36:33
  Yeah, exactly.
• 2:36:34
  So all this happens.
• 2:36:36
  And the, again, I won't mention the name, I could,
• 2:36:40
  but some of the famous celebrity doctors glum onto it
• 2:36:43
  and they start saying, see, we told you so.
• 2:36:45
  These are bad for you long term.
• 2:36:47
  Don't use them.
• 2:36:48
  They all cause muscle loss, blah, blah, blah.
• 2:36:49
  And so it just gets to this point
• 2:36:51
  where it's just like signal noise ratio.
• 2:36:53
  We're back to signal noise ratio.
• 2:36:54
  The noise is so high, it's negative.
• 2:36:57
  It drowns out all the positivity,
• 2:36:59
  but the positivity, which we'll eventually get to,
• 2:37:01
  is really what makes these drugs,
• 2:37:02
  the wonderkin drugs that they are.
• 2:37:04
  They're, as I've said, they are the single greatest
• 2:37:07
  medical intervention since penicillin.
• 2:37:09
  And I would say that within two years,
• 2:37:10
  they will be bigger than that.
• 2:37:11
  They're already the highest profit,
• 2:37:14
  most sold, most procured drugs in the history of medicine.
• 2:37:18
  So obviously, there's good and bad with it.
• 2:37:20
  But the truth is, is that to get to like,
• 2:37:23
  how do we use these things?
• 2:37:25
  And how do we use these things
• 2:37:26
  so that they are beneficial and positive for anyone,
• 2:37:29
  regardless if you're a dumpster fire,
• 2:37:31
  or you're someone like you and I,
• 2:37:32
  or a woman like you and I that wants to just eliminate
• 2:37:34
  food noise.
• 2:37:36
  So this is how we use them.
• 2:37:37
  We first off start low and go slow.
• 2:37:39
  We microdose these drugs,
• 2:37:41
  which you're never going to hear from pharma,
• 2:37:44
  or from most of the doctors.
• 2:37:45
  Now, there's a ton of doctors
• 2:37:47
  that you're microdosing them now,
• 2:37:48
  because I know how the average is,
• 2:37:49
  take it once a week.
• 2:37:51
  You have to see average advice.
• 2:37:52
  That's 90% of prescribed.
• 2:37:54
  We want to get it towards 80%, right?
• 2:37:56
  We're 20% of people are doing this right.
• 2:37:58
  It's a Pareto principle.
• 2:37:59
  But the thing is, is that for the guys and the docs
• 2:38:03
  and the people that are doing this right,
• 2:38:05
  they start with a microdose.
• 2:38:06
  And by the way, we have to say this,
• 2:38:08
  semagletide, which is wugovii,
• 2:38:09
  is completely useless at this point.
• 2:38:11
  It's a one-stage agonist.
• 2:38:14
  There's either a clasp on a single dual or triple.
• 2:38:19
  The single-stage agonist, which again,
• 2:38:21
  is wugovii, or semagletide,
• 2:38:23
  is just suppressing, it's just suppressing appetite.
• 2:38:28
  Why would you want to just suppress your appetite
• 2:38:30
  when you can also use one that enhances your metabolism,
• 2:38:32
  which is your general overall purpose anyway,
• 2:38:34
  of losing body fat and improving insulin sensitivity, right?
• 2:38:37
  So for the people listening to this podcast right now,
• 2:38:40
  if you're using semagletide, slash wugovii,
• 2:38:44
  you shouldn't personally use it anymore.
• 2:38:46
  Some of these people are going to be like,
• 2:38:48
  but Jay, my script, is written for that.
• 2:38:50
  And I get a copay and a lower payment on it,
• 2:38:54
  because again, if they're classified as a type 2 diabetic,
• 2:38:56
  they're getting it to the system,
• 2:38:57
  which is broken.
• 2:38:58
  And so they're going to be like,
• 2:38:59
  I can't afford the other one because I don't have
• 2:39:01
  a script blah blah blah.
• 2:39:02
  But I'm just coming from a J Campbell expert status
• 2:39:04
  of like, what are you using the best?
• 2:39:06
  What's going to work the best?
• 2:39:08
  Terzapatide is FDA-approved,
• 2:39:10
  and that's Manjaro on Zep bound
• 2:39:12
  is now the miniature version of it.
• 2:39:14
  That is so much better than using wugovii.
• 2:39:17
  So again, if you're listening to this,
• 2:39:19
  and you're trying to understand like,
• 2:39:20
  what's GLP-1 to use?
• 2:39:22
  If you're going down the medical route,
• 2:39:24
  the compound route, you're trusting your doctor route,
• 2:39:26
  that's the one to use.
• 2:39:27
  I don't use the other one.
• 2:39:28
  But that one to go deeper, micro-dosing it every other day,
• 2:39:34
  or at least three days a week.
• 2:39:36
  So you would be a 2.5 milligrams is the standard dose
• 2:39:40
  for people that do it intelligently.
• 2:39:42
  Now again, most ox, they're starting heavy dumpster fire
• 2:39:45
  and flame fat people at like five and 10 milligrams, bro,
• 2:39:48
  which is like no bueno, bad bad bad.
• 2:39:51
  But you'll see that.
• 2:39:51
  But if your normal dose is 2.5 milligrams,
• 2:39:54
  then you would want to take 0.4 to 0.5 of that dose
• 2:39:59
  every other day, which would be like three days a week.
• 2:40:01
  And so now if you do the math,
• 2:40:03
  and I know most people can't math,
• 2:40:05
  the math doesn't math anymore,
• 2:40:07
  that would be like 1.25,
• 2:40:09
  which would be half the regular dose of 2.5,
• 2:40:12
  which would be the standard.
• 2:40:13
  So you have a 1.25 spread out.
• 2:40:14
  Oh, probably a week.
• 2:40:15
  That is, that is micro-dosing.
• 2:40:17
  That is much.
• 2:40:18
  So you wouldn't even hit the 2.5.
• 2:40:19
  You wouldn't even.
• 2:40:19
  And so why is this important?
• 2:40:21
  This is important because you're never destabilizing
• 2:40:24
  your receptor sensitivity to the drug.
• 2:40:27
  So you can stay on it for a long time.
• 2:40:29
  When you take two high dosages,
• 2:40:31
  again, the farmer recommended way,
• 2:40:32
  you destabilize and cause receptor attenuation.
• 2:40:35
  And four weeks in it does even work,
• 2:40:37
  unless you go way up.
• 2:40:39
  And then you get hooked, you can't afford it
• 2:40:41
  and all the negative things happen.
• 2:40:43
  So if we, if we micro-dose it,
• 2:40:45
  what else do we have to do in addition to micro-dosing?
• 2:40:48
  This is critically important stuff.
• 2:40:50
  We have to eat at least one gram of protein
• 2:40:53
  per pound of our goal body weight.
• 2:40:55
  The scientific answer is of our lean muscle mass, right?
• 2:40:59
  But the average person can't compute
• 2:41:00
  what their lean muscle mass is.
• 2:41:02
  So like, one of my smart friends was like,
• 2:41:04
  you know, just tell them it's their lean body goal weight, right?
• 2:41:07
  So if you're 280 pounds and you should be 220,
• 2:41:10
  then you're eating 220 grams of protein, right?
• 2:41:12
  If you're 190 and you should be 160,
• 2:41:14
  then you're eating 160, right?
• 2:41:15
  Easy math.
• 2:41:16
  Easy math.
• 2:41:17
  But from there, and this is even more important,
• 2:41:21
  dude, you cannot use a GLP-1 peptide and not lift weights
• 2:41:26
  because they're so effective at burning through fat
• 2:41:28
  and muscle that resistance training is the one thing
• 2:41:33
  that's going to prevent the muscle loss
• 2:41:34
  or the muscle adaptation.
• 2:41:36
  Now, even more important than lifting weights
• 2:41:39
  would be being hormonally optimized.
• 2:41:42
  A hundred percent.
• 2:41:43
  I always tell people this.
• 2:41:44
  And again, the smart doctors, again,
• 2:41:46
  shout out to Dr. Rudy Eberwarren,
• 2:41:48
  who's down here at MHI Miami.
• 2:41:49
  He's been doing these things since 2008.
• 2:41:51
  He's, in my course, he actually does a 90 minute lecture,
• 2:41:55
  bonus video in our course that he talks about everything
• 2:41:58
  you should know from like the highest level clinical side
• 2:42:00
  of things with GLPs.
• 2:42:02
  And he's very, very professional and very intelligent guy.
• 2:42:05
  But basically he says,
• 2:42:06
  trizapatide and testosterone are mandatory.
• 2:42:10
  He's like men and women, right?
• 2:42:11
  Because again, you've got the hormonal optimization,
• 2:42:14
  the anabolic signaling from testosterone,
• 2:42:16
  even in therapeutic surgically low with the osages,
• 2:42:18
  with trizapatide will enhance the fat loss,
• 2:42:21
  but you will prevent any kind of muscle contamination.
• 2:42:23
  And that is critically important, right?
• 2:42:25
  So just to recap, must eat enough protein,
• 2:42:29
  one gram of protein,
• 2:42:30
  propound of lean body weight or goal weight,
• 2:42:33
  should be, I won't say must,
• 2:42:35
  because obviously some people are hormonally optimized,
• 2:42:37
  but most people should look into be hormonally optimized.
• 2:42:40
  And then I would also say,
• 2:42:42
  in addition to the trizapatide GLP,
• 2:42:45
  a growth hormone and agus peptide that we talked about, right?
• 2:42:47
  So a TASA, an IPA, a CJC,
• 2:42:50
  or even a mitochondrial optimizing peptide,
• 2:42:52
  like a MOTC SS31 or even SLUPE, right?
• 2:42:55
  So all of those in combination with your GLP
• 2:43:00
  is going to cause the greatest metabolic adaptation
• 2:43:04
  and body composition modulation
• 2:43:06
  that you've ever had in your life.
• 2:43:07
  Like I said, I know people who aren't dumps or fires
• 2:43:11
  who are not metabolically deranged,
• 2:43:12
  who use a tiny, tiny dose of the trizapatide
• 2:43:15
  and we'll get to run a true tide in a second,
• 2:43:17
  and they've completely changed their bodies.
• 2:43:19
  They've gone back to like the best time of their lives, right?
• 2:43:22
  50-year-old people who literally
• 2:43:23
  are now have a physique of a 25-year-old.
• 2:43:26
  The way that I think about it,
• 2:43:27
  because if people have not gone down this path
• 2:43:30
  and gone on this journey yet, they're gonna be like,
• 2:43:31
  well, why is it like my body enough?
• 2:43:34
  Why do I have to sort of enhance and optimize?
• 2:43:37
  Because you're fighting this losing battle,
• 2:43:38
  and the food that you eat and the environment
• 2:43:40
  that you live in is not the same food and environment
• 2:43:43
  that your parents and your grandparents were living.
• 2:43:45
  I hung up the phone with you last night.
• 2:43:47
  We went to Estica, and that was the biggest mistake ever.
• 2:43:50
  That food is so poisoned.
• 2:43:52
  That state was loaded.
• 2:43:53
  I even told them, do not put salt
• 2:43:56
  at all the crap preserved as he put on it.
• 2:43:58
  I came out and I couldn't even eat it,
• 2:44:01
  but my point is to your point,
• 2:44:03
  where everything's contaminated.
• 2:44:05
  You can't even go to a high-level steakhouse in South Beach
• 2:44:09
  and get something that's not contaminated to your food.
• 2:44:12
  So you're right.
• 2:44:13
  Like you're doing a GLP1 in a microdose
• 2:44:16
  to offset the damage that you must undergo.
• 2:44:20
  Everything is damaging you.
• 2:44:22
  Dude, everything.
• 2:44:23
  Yeah, that's my most true diet.
• 2:44:26
  It's the high job.
• 2:44:26
  100% testosterone biggest tool in the tool belt.
• 2:44:29
  A GLP1, a microdose of a GLP1
• 2:44:32
  right behind testosterone,
• 2:44:33
  and then add in a growth hormone agonist peptide
• 2:44:36
  or a mitochondrial agonist peptide.
• 2:44:38
  And those are your tools.
• 2:44:40
  Those are your 21st and 22nd century tools
• 2:44:44
  to offset the environmental degradation
• 2:44:46
  that Scott, you cannot avoid.
• 2:44:48
  I don't give a shit who you are
• 2:44:49
  unless you're living in a Faraday cage,
• 2:44:51
  not going outside.
• 2:44:53
  With your own farm or your own animals, your own...
• 2:44:55
  And by the way, the farm would have to be underground
• 2:44:58
  because you're still being hit
• 2:44:59
  from the shit they're dropping in the skies.
• 2:45:02
  It's true.
• 2:45:03
  It's scary.
• 2:45:04
  It's all true, dude.
• 2:45:05
  I mean, it's scary if you want to be scared of it,
• 2:45:07
  but obviously you have to intervene.
• 2:45:09
  What do you do?
• 2:45:10
  I agree.
• 2:45:11
  And I think that the argument is,
• 2:45:12
  well, we're living longer than ever.
• 2:45:13
  I'm like, but are you really living?
• 2:45:14
  No, are you really healthy?
• 2:45:15
  The average people, your families,
• 2:45:17
  their buddies are not living qualitatively.
• 2:45:20
  They are living...
• 2:45:21
  You're not, yeah.
• 2:45:22
  You're living long.
• 2:45:23
  But it's over 534, right?
• 2:45:26
  So imagine I'm 70 years old and I lift to 100.
• 2:45:29
  So basically the time that I've been on this earth,
• 2:45:32
  and part of it I only remember because I was a kid,
• 2:45:34
  time I've been on this earth,
• 2:45:36
  that's the amount of time I have to live with,
• 2:45:38
  like shitty hormones, no sex drive,
• 2:45:42
  can't go to the gym, can't go for a walk, no energy,
• 2:45:44
  everything hurts, my mind's going,
• 2:45:47
  the time I've been on this earth,
• 2:45:49
  that's how long I have to deal with that shit
• 2:45:51
  until I die.
• 2:45:51
  It's insane.
• 2:45:52
  But you don't.
• 2:45:53
  That's the exact...
• 2:45:54
  This is a fact.
• 2:45:55
  And I didn't know this and just found this out recently
• 2:45:57
  and I had to fact check this myself.
• 2:46:00
  In 2022, I'm sorry.
• 2:46:03
  Yeah, it was 22 and 23 men in Canada
• 2:46:07
  and the United States between 20 and 30,
• 2:46:09
  50% of them did not have sex one time.
• 2:46:12
  50% between 20 and 30 did not have sex one time.
• 2:46:16
  20 and 30.
• 2:46:17
  The United sex one time.
• 2:46:18
  What's in it?
• 2:46:19
  That is what happened as to the 40.
• 2:46:20
  That's what I mean, who knows?
• 2:46:22
  But that is because, when you really look into this,
• 2:46:24
  that is because they jerk off the porn
• 2:46:27
  and they play video games.
• 2:46:29
  And these rewire the dopaminergic signaling pathways
• 2:46:32
  so the reward, behavior pathways are compromised.
• 2:46:36
  So why would you want a court of woman, right?
• 2:46:38
  Like why would you want to deal with a woman's inocionality
• 2:46:39
  when you can jerk off the porn three times a day
• 2:46:41
  and in your mind, that's the same thing.
• 2:46:43
  You and I both know it's not.
• 2:46:45
  Definitely not.
• 2:46:46
  But that's what they think, right?
• 2:46:47
  And then it's the same thing with video games, right?
• 2:46:48
  Like I can kill people in a video game
• 2:46:50
  and I can be like dominant or whatever.
• 2:46:52
  And so all that has changed the world.
• 2:46:54
  But if you realize that,
• 2:46:56
  the 50% of dudes between 20 and 30 are not having sex,
• 2:47:00
  then you realize that things are off.
• 2:47:02
  Which also hormones are depressed, testosterone is depressed,
• 2:47:06
  mental, everything is, again,
• 2:47:08
  what we're talking about is under attack.
• 2:47:10
  All of our systems, it's a full system.
• 2:47:12
  Our bodies under attack.
• 2:47:14
  Our life is under attacks, everything.
• 2:47:17
  And it all creates a super toxic environment.
• 2:47:20
  Yeah, hormones, but also then cost the living
• 2:47:23
  and then like everything.
• 2:47:25
  People are defeated.
• 2:47:27
  If you don't do what you and I are talking about
• 2:47:29
  in this podcast, it is highly likely
• 2:47:31
  to not live a life that is prosperous.
• 2:47:35
  And I mean, again, in my circles and your circles,
• 2:47:39
  I mean, we know so many people
• 2:47:40
  that are doing the things that we're doing now
• 2:47:42
  because again, it's mandatory.
• 2:47:45
  How if you don't, you're under siege?
• 2:47:49
  How do you offset living in a contaminated,
• 2:47:52
  full systemic assault environment?
• 2:47:54
  You can't.
• 2:47:55
  I mean, because of the show and just my network,
• 2:47:57
  I deal with a lot of people that have had massive success.
• 2:48:00
  And now everybody's everything you're talking about.
• 2:48:02
  This is what they do.
• 2:48:03
  This is what they're doing.
• 2:48:04
  Because they want, they want to live good lives.
• 2:48:07
  They want to live good life.
• 2:48:08
  But what's so funny is that it doesn't actually
• 2:48:10
  take a lot of money.
• 2:48:11
  No, it doesn't, dude.
• 2:48:12
  We'll get to that before the show is over.
• 2:48:14
  I want people to understand because that's what they ask.
• 2:48:16
  They're like, oh, you guys just make too much money.
• 2:48:18
  Those average people can't.
• 2:48:19
  Dude, everything that I'm talking about,
• 2:48:22
  if you take ownership of this, it doesn't cost $1,000 a month.
• 2:48:26
  Who can say they can't afford $1,000 a month?
• 2:48:28
  If you don't...
• 2:48:29
  That's what you're going to do.
• 2:48:30
  You're going to spend $1,000 on all the other bulls.
• 2:48:32
  On beer and lattes.
• 2:48:33
  I mean, the truth is, and again, I say this all the time,
• 2:48:36
  if you cannot spend $5,000 to $10,000 a year
• 2:48:39
  on your personal health regardless of your income level,
• 2:48:41
  your priorities are inverted.
• 2:48:43
  It's not because you don't have the money.
• 2:48:45
  It's because you don't have the responsibility
• 2:48:46
  to be proactive because you waste money
• 2:48:49
  in places that you're not paying attention.
• 2:48:51
  And you'll spend it more with health.
• 2:48:53
  I'll care.
• 2:48:54
  What does it care?
• 2:48:54
  I'll share whatever.
• 2:48:55
  That's the most important thing, right?
• 2:48:57
  Like, and again, that's a lecture that I do
• 2:48:58
  in my seminar in two weeks, but like, dude,
• 2:49:01
  if people understood what a myocardial infarction
• 2:49:03
  or heart attack would cost them,
• 2:49:05
  they would never not spend money on their health.
• 2:49:08
  Because one heart attack in 40,
• 2:49:10
  the average person would cost them $400,000 a month.
• 2:49:12
  Yeah.
• 2:49:13
  One heart attack.
• 2:49:15
  A second heart attack is medical bankruptcy.
• 2:49:18
  People don't understand this, dude,
• 2:49:20
  but this is the system that we're in.
• 2:49:22
  But if it's don't pay for that kind of stuff,
• 2:49:24
  those are acts of God and life interventions,
• 2:49:26
  and you don't understand, like,
• 2:49:28
  what happens if you have a life flight?
• 2:49:29
  What happens if you have a heart attack
• 2:49:31
  when you're driving down the road
• 2:49:32
  and you cause an accident,
• 2:49:32
  and now you have to be life flight?
• 2:49:34
  That's $600,000.
• 2:49:35
  It's the same.
• 2:49:36
  People don't understand it, but that's like,
• 2:49:39
  and on top of that, the insurance industry
• 2:49:42
  is designed to confuse the hell out of everybody, too.
• 2:49:45
  But if you live with a way that we're talking about
• 2:49:48
  on the show, you're not gonna have that happen.
• 2:49:50
  I mean, could it happen?
• 2:49:52
  Could a tragic accident occur, of course,
• 2:49:55
  but statistically, it won't happen to you.
• 2:49:57
  But I think that also if you're spending five to 10 grand
• 2:50:01
  a year on your health,
• 2:50:02
  you know what else you're doing?
• 2:50:03
  You're monitoring your health.
• 2:50:05
  And you're getting your bloods
• 2:50:06
  and you're getting your scans
• 2:50:07
  and you're getting your everything done
• 2:50:09
  because you care about it now.
• 2:50:11
  The people that are watching this show
• 2:50:12
  and the people that come on the show like me
• 2:50:14
  and others, we're spending probably 25 to 50, right?
• 2:50:18
  But any person can spend five to 10.
• 2:50:20
  And that's just the facts.
• 2:50:21
  But like, we'll get to that.
• 2:50:23
  We'll quantify what talking to all these things
• 2:50:25
  we're doing, but I'm telling you, dude,
• 2:50:26
  it's not $1,000.
• 2:50:27
  Yeah, I know, I know.
• 2:50:29
  And especially if you do it with not a company
• 2:50:31
  that's trying to take advantage of you.
• 2:50:33
  Which is 100% what you have to do
• 2:50:35
  and you obviously have to be really discerning
• 2:50:37
  and critical thinking to avoid those companies.
• 2:50:39
  So let's talk about red accrued tide.
• 2:50:41
  So red accrued tide is a Eli Lilly patented drug
• 2:50:46
  that is not yet FDA approved.
• 2:50:48
  It is expected to be FDA approved.
• 2:50:51
  It's a GLP one, of course.
• 2:50:52
  It's expected to be approved in,
• 2:50:54
  either late 2026 or at some point in early to mid 2027.
• 2:50:59
  Which is insane because it's been in the marketplace
• 2:51:02
  since 2023 in the research community, okay?
• 2:51:06
  Why is it the most amazing drug?
• 2:51:07
  And I'll just say it right now.
• 2:51:08
  Looking at the camera is the most amazing drug
• 2:51:11
  in the history of mankind.
• 2:51:12
  Because there's a triple stage GLP one agus,
• 2:51:15
  which means that it burns fat suppresses insulin
• 2:51:20
  and enhances mental productivity
• 2:51:22
  and rewires dopaminergic,
• 2:51:24
  serotonergic and dendritic pathways
• 2:51:27
  all for the positive, all for beneficial means.
• 2:51:29
  So what does that mean to somebody who doesn't understand
• 2:51:31
  anything that's sick?
• 2:51:32
  It means that you will be leaner, healthier
• 2:51:35
  and more energized if you use it.
• 2:51:37
  It's that profound.
• 2:51:38
  I've not met a single person who's used it.
• 2:51:41
  And by the way, there's less than 2% of the planet
• 2:51:43
  has used it because even the people,
• 2:51:45
  and let's just call them 10% of humanity
• 2:51:47
  that is using peptides,
• 2:51:49
  they are using medical provided
• 2:51:51
  or compound pharmacy provided peptides.
• 2:51:54
  And they're not allowed to make right or true tide yet
• 2:51:56
  because it's not FDA-approved, right?
• 2:51:58
  But the research community,
• 2:52:00
  which is what I'm involved in,
• 2:52:01
  bio-ungewy labs, and as you know,
• 2:52:02
  there's many other companies, buyer beware.
• 2:52:05
  That's been, it's been in the marketplace since July of 2023.
• 2:52:08
  So I have personally been using this product now
• 2:52:11
  for literally 18 months.
• 2:52:14
  When I first started taking it,
• 2:52:15
  like all biohacker ditty pigs,
• 2:52:18
  we didn't even know what the dosage was.
• 2:52:20
  The studies were in mortally obese diabetic people,
• 2:52:22
  and they were taking six milligrams a week.
• 2:52:24
  So I was like, oh, I'll just take three, right?
• 2:52:26
  Because I've been taking two or 1.5
• 2:52:28
  or whatever with a terzaptide.
• 2:52:30
  And then when I took it,
• 2:52:32
  it enhanced my metabolism so much that I was
• 2:52:35
  revising the hungry.
• 2:52:36
  I was like, oh my god, this isn't gonna work.
• 2:52:38
  I mean, you felt hotter and more energized
• 2:52:42
  but it was like too much of a dosage.
• 2:52:43
  So I personally, that's actually not accomplishing
• 2:52:46
  what a lot of people are,
• 2:52:47
  which is the food and all this people, it's not good for.
• 2:52:49
  But for like a bodybuilder,
• 2:52:51
  which we'll get to that application is insane, right?
• 2:52:53
  Because it's anabolic.
• 2:52:54
  It's actually enhancing nutrient partitioning
• 2:52:56
  and collagen restoration.
• 2:52:58
  But the truth was is that we just didn't know
• 2:53:01
  like all these drugs,
• 2:53:02
  because it's in the experimental phase
• 2:53:04
  that we just had a microdose.
• 2:53:05
  So once we figured out that you microdose
• 2:53:08
  this thing, bro, it was game over.
• 2:53:09
  It was absolutely game over.
• 2:53:11
  Women are taking my wife,
• 2:53:13
  a lot of women I know,
• 2:53:14
  they're taking like 0.15 twice a week.
• 2:53:17
  So it kills, so it's powerful.
• 2:53:20
  Oh, it's insanely powerful,
• 2:53:21
  but it kills food noise.
• 2:53:24
  It completely changes the brain,
• 2:53:27
  again, the dendritic serotonergic
• 2:53:29
  and dopamine erotic pathology
• 2:53:32
  so that it only rewards,
• 2:53:34
  like there's no more craving shitty foods.
• 2:53:36
  There's no more emotional-based eating.
• 2:53:38
  You get sorry or sad like a woman who gets emotional
• 2:53:41
  during her say a period or a menstrual cycle.
• 2:53:43
  And she eats shitty foodstuffs, it eliminates that.
• 2:53:47
  So again, just a microdose for healthy women
• 2:53:51
  is going to eliminate food noise.
• 2:53:52
  It's going to change body composition.
• 2:53:54
  As I told you,
• 2:53:55
  shout out to Adam Lambert who owns Be the Wellness.
• 2:53:57
  He just talked to me yesterday in the morning.
• 2:53:59
  He's like, bro,
• 2:54:00
  or it was not yesterday, it was on Tuesday
• 2:54:01
  because I flew up yesterday to see you.
• 2:54:04
  But he was like, bro,
• 2:54:05
  we've been using this for three weeks
• 2:54:06
  and my wife's body has changed.
• 2:54:08
  And I think he's like in his early 40s,
• 2:54:11
  but he's like my body's,
• 2:54:13
  she looks like she's 28 again.
• 2:54:14
  It's in three weeks, in three weeks.
• 2:54:16
  And I'm like, dude, I told you,
• 2:54:18
  it changes everything.
• 2:54:20
  It's like I said,
• 2:54:21
  I mean, all I can say is the greatest drug ever invented.
• 2:54:24
  Sadly, it's not FDA approved yet.
• 2:54:26
  It will be,
• 2:54:27
  but there's no reason that anybody watching this show,
• 2:54:30
  and again, I'm sure there's hundreds
• 2:54:32
  of not thousands of people that watch this show
• 2:54:33
  that are already using it can't find it.
• 2:54:35
  We sell it.
• 2:54:36
  A lot of other research chemical companies sell it.
• 2:54:39
  It's not expensive.
• 2:54:41
  I mean, let's just talk about that.
• 2:54:42
  You can get a 10 milligram vile for under 200 bucks.
• 2:54:45
  What makes the price expensive or not?
• 2:54:47
  What compounders?
• 2:54:48
  Just compounders?
• 2:54:49
  Jack and the price up.
• 2:54:50
  And it's an Eli Lilly drug.
• 2:54:51
  So you can only imagine,
• 2:54:52
  especially with me being this undrained salesperson
• 2:54:55
  out there touting its capabilities.
• 2:54:57
  How much they're going to charge for it?
• 2:54:59
  My guess is when this drug is FDA approved,
• 2:55:02
  it will literally cost $5,000 a month
• 2:55:05
  to buy through compound pathways,
• 2:55:07
  which is a force,
• 2:55:08
  unless you get a script right
• 2:55:10
  because you're some diseased individual
• 2:55:12
  that they label you as, right?
• 2:55:13
  And even then, it's going to be $1,500 to $2,000,
• 2:55:15
  which is still out of the pockets
• 2:55:17
  for the average American consumer.
• 2:55:18
  You can't afford that.
• 2:55:20
  A guy that has a toolkit,
• 2:55:21
  it's like bears and then they, yeah.
• 2:55:22
  But I mean, again,
• 2:55:23
  the research community is offering these drugs available
• 2:55:27
  if you claim that you're a researcher
• 2:55:29
  and you want to experiment on yourself, right?
• 2:55:31
  But again, we've got now 18 months of this
• 2:55:33
  in the marketplace.
• 2:55:34
  Nobody's getting sick.
• 2:55:36
  There's nobody dying.
• 2:55:37
  There's no horrible side effects.
• 2:55:39
  I mean, that's a thermogenic, too.
• 2:55:40
  Everything.
• 2:55:41
  Neutron partitioning.
• 2:55:42
  Thermogenic.
• 2:55:43
  It's absolutely a thermogenic
• 2:55:45
  because it's enhancing resting metabolic rate.
• 2:55:47
  So it's why I'm sitting here right now.
• 2:55:48
  I'm burning calories, I think, so I'll read a radio.
• 2:55:51
  Like if I took my short off right now
• 2:55:52
  and I got on camera, you'd be like, dude,
• 2:55:55
  that's how lean I am.
• 2:55:55
  So it's like, but that's what it does.
• 2:55:57
  And so let's talk about the bodybuilding
• 2:55:59
  and performance enhancement arena now
• 2:56:01
  because this is important.
• 2:56:02
  This drug and things coming
• 2:56:05
  and we talked off air,
• 2:56:07
  but there's four stages coming, bro.
• 2:56:09
  So there's going to be an anti-catabolic component
• 2:56:12
  added to these three, right?
• 2:56:13
  So you can only imagine.
• 2:56:14
  So like genetic mutant bodybuilders
• 2:56:16
  can take it in game muscle.
• 2:56:18
  But you can already add an anti-catabolic
• 2:56:19
  testosterone optimization to anti-catabolic.
• 2:56:22
  You can add other anti-catabolic steroids, right?
• 2:56:24
  Exactly.
• 2:56:25
  But imagine when they actually add an anti-catabolic
• 2:56:28
  then on top of it.
• 2:56:29
  But this is completely challenging that.
• 2:56:31
  It's not as detrimental to your health.
• 2:56:34
  So dude, that's where we're going
• 2:56:35
  because I want to talk about my biomarkers.
• 2:56:36
  So this has radically changed the competitive bodybuilding
• 2:56:41
  arena as we talked before
• 2:56:44
  because you and I were both competitors and stuff
• 2:56:46
  and had bodybuilder and get physique stuff before.
• 2:56:49
  Like to be shredded on stage,
• 2:56:51
  you had to become comfortable with being hungry, right?
• 2:56:53
  Like that's just a bodybuilder's mantra.
• 2:56:56
  You knew that if you really wanted to be peeled and diced,
• 2:56:58
  you would have to be starving the last two to three weeks
• 2:57:01
  of your competition.
• 2:57:02
  That's gone now.
• 2:57:03
  This drug will radically lower your body fat by all you have
• 2:57:07
  to do is just clean up your diet dramatically, right?
• 2:57:09
  Like lower your carbohydrates, eat very clean,
• 2:57:13
  essential fatty acids, fish and stuff like that.
• 2:57:15
  Get green, leafy vegetables, broccoli, stuff like that.
• 2:57:18
  But you're not starving at all.
• 2:57:20
  And it eliminates hunger.
• 2:57:22
  So there's no thought of pizza hamburgers, hamburgers.
• 2:57:26
  You remember dude, like you walked by somebody
• 2:57:28
  and you would smell the food and you'd be like,
• 2:57:30
  I remember when I used to try and diet down.
• 2:57:33
  Like, so the girl I was dating at the time,
• 2:57:35
  it's so funny how people deal with dieting.
• 2:57:37
  The girl was dating at the time.
• 2:57:38
  All she would do was want to look on Instagram,
• 2:57:41
  that food Instagrams to like look at all the shit
• 2:57:43
  you could need.
• 2:57:45
  I couldn't do, I would lose my mind
• 2:57:47
  because she'd send me stuff.
• 2:57:48
  I'd be like, stop, stop sending me the shit.
• 2:57:50
  I'm just trying to diet.
• 2:57:52
  So imagine now, fast forward to now
• 2:57:54
  where that's a thing in the past, right?
• 2:57:56
  Now to go deeper with it,
• 2:57:59
  because we talked about it, it is for people like me,
• 2:58:03
  for, you know, and again, people way beyond me
• 2:58:05
  advanced bodybuilders, it's anabolic dude
• 2:58:07
  because of the nutrient repartitioning, right?
• 2:58:09
  So like a person who has optimal genetics,
• 2:58:12
  you know, optimal drug regimen,
• 2:58:14
  optimal peptide regimen,
• 2:58:15
  in addition to a microdose of red and true tide
• 2:58:17
  will literally be bigger and leaner
• 2:58:20
  than they could have ever been doing it before that.
• 2:58:23
  That's how insane this stuff is, right?
• 2:58:25
  So we will see over the next five to 10 years,
• 2:58:29
  this is my opinion, but I know it's gonna happen.
• 2:58:33
  The world of bodybuilding and acting and people that,
• 2:58:35
  you know, have like mutant physiques
• 2:58:38
  will be like we've never seen it before.
• 2:58:40
  Like you will see people,
• 2:58:42
  like they won't have to use CGI
• 2:58:43
  and the Marvel movies probably, bro.
• 2:58:44
  They'll probably have people that'll be like,
• 2:58:46
  Jesus Christ, that's like his real body.
• 2:58:48
  They're just doing CGI off the real body.
• 2:58:50
  But it's just the future for is insane.
• 2:58:52
  Now let's get into the part that really matters.
• 2:58:55
  Your biomarkers improve.
• 2:58:58
  So again, I've been getting my biomarkers done since 1999,
• 2:59:03
  twice a year, sometimes I would get them once a year,
• 2:59:05
  but for the most part I get them twice a year.
• 2:59:07
  There's been years I've gotten them three times.
• 2:59:08
  In the last two years I've gotten them three times a year
• 2:59:10
  because I really want to look, you know,
• 2:59:11
  because I was concerned that maybe these GLPs
• 2:59:14
  aren't doing good things.
• 2:59:15
  Just had my blood work done in January
• 2:59:19
  and I've never in my life ever been able to move
• 2:59:23
  my HDL cholesterol level above North of 44.
• 2:59:27
  I've always just had low HDL.
• 2:59:28
  I've had very low risk inflammatory markers.
• 2:59:30
  I've always had good blood labs, bro.
• 2:59:32
  I have 64 HDL, which for someone like me
• 2:59:37
  who's never been over 44, it's like awe inspiring
• 2:59:40
  and it's all from a retrutite.
• 2:59:43
  I've done nothing else than what I've always done
• 2:59:46
  and obviously I'm meticulous,
• 2:59:47
  but it improved my HDL markers by 20 points.
• 2:59:50
  Now by cholesterol, you're already low body fat.
• 2:59:53
  We all have no body fat.
• 2:59:54
  So then I year round them 10% or less
• 2:59:57
  and now I'm about seven, but literally,
• 2:59:59
  so what's the mechanism that's doing that?
• 3:00:01
  It's suppressing inflammation.
• 3:00:03
  It's regulating insulin sensitivity.
• 3:00:06
  It's obviously improving nutrient partitioning.
• 3:00:08
  It's obviously eradicating this role body fat,
• 3:00:11
  which is the number one inflammatory health marker.
• 3:00:14
  So it's just doing so many good things
• 3:00:16
  and then the other thing is,
• 3:00:17
  and this is the stuff that we really don't understand yet,
• 3:00:19
  dude, the brain stuff and it's doing, right?
• 3:00:22
  So it's like it's putting you,
• 3:00:24
  in addition to all the physiological, biological health
• 3:00:27
  markers that are improving,
• 3:00:28
  it's putting you in such a positive state.
• 3:00:31
  You don't have bad days when you're on retrutite, dude.
• 3:00:34
  Like you wake up in the morning
• 3:00:35
  and you're just fucking ready to go.
• 3:00:37
  You know, you sleep deeper,
• 3:00:39
  because remember this is another thing
• 3:00:40
  is that like most people sleep is deserved by inflammation.
• 3:00:43
  Yeah, brain inflammation, got inflammation.
• 3:00:47
  You don't have it when you're on retrutite
• 3:00:48
  and a microdose.
• 3:00:49
  It's gone.
• 3:00:50
  You go, you knock out, you're asleep.
• 3:00:54
  The, you should have told me,
• 3:00:56
  the one hotel last night,
• 3:00:57
  they have lights to come on because of the flat form.
• 3:01:00
  So if you move in the bed, the lights come on.
• 3:01:03
  Okay, so I do like the hotel, but that's annoying.
• 3:01:05
  Yeah.
• 3:01:05
  My wife and I were like, what is going on?
• 3:01:08
  Is there a way to turn this off?
• 3:01:09
  We slept really good because the bed was amazing.
• 3:01:11
  But like, for example,
• 3:01:12
  other than something like that happened, dude,
• 3:01:14
  you don't wake up.
• 3:01:15
  You're laugh because you know that that happens, right?
• 3:01:17
  Like, is there a way to deactivate that?
• 3:01:20
  No, not that I know of.
• 3:01:22
  Is that in every room?
• 3:01:24
  Oh my God, that is an architectural disaster.
• 3:01:27
  It is.
• 3:01:28
  I like the hotel, but the hotel's amazing.
• 3:01:30
  I have nothing bad to say, but dude,
• 3:01:31
  I literally turn it over.
• 3:01:32
  Every time, every time we stayed there,
• 3:01:34
  I turned over in the bed and it didn't.
• 3:01:36
  My wife was like, what's, no, that seems too sensitive.
• 3:01:39
  No, it literally, I mean, I moved and I picked up my pillow,
• 3:01:42
  you know, it turned on.
• 3:01:44
  Turn, yeah, because it's like, it's a motion sensitive.
• 3:01:47
  Yeah, but I don't remember being that sensitive last time.
• 3:01:49
  It did it for us.
• 3:01:50
  And my wife was like, what in the hell's like three o'clock
• 3:01:52
  in the morning?
• 3:01:53
  Yeah, sounds sweet.
• 3:01:54
  And the lights, that's funny.
• 3:01:56
  I mean, not the whole thing, right?
• 3:01:57
  But the, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
• 3:01:59
  I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 3:01:59
  Yeah, but it's enough lights to turn it on.
• 3:02:01
  So it's like crazy.
• 3:02:02
  But, but yeah, so you don't have brain inflammation,
• 3:02:05
  gut inflammation, so everything is just improved.
• 3:02:08
  And again, I mean, dude, that's the thing is like,
• 3:02:10
  inflammation is the primary mover of disease, right?
• 3:02:14
  It causes all disease, heart disease, brain disease,
• 3:02:17
  neurological disease, type two diabetes,
• 3:02:19
  all the things that people get at some point in their life
• 3:02:22
  who don't take care of themselves.
• 3:02:23
  If you don't have inflammation, you don't get disease.
• 3:02:25
  And remember, we talked about this already,
• 3:02:27
  and we'll get deeper on this when we start talking about training.
• 3:02:29
  But the longest, but that statistically proven way
• 3:02:32
  to live the longest is to be the leanest, to maintain leanness.
• 3:02:36
  Now, people will ask me, Jay, what does that mean?
• 3:02:38
  It means for women, you should be 15 to 22% body fat
• 3:02:41
  for men, you should be 10 to 15.
• 3:02:43
  I say 12 to 15, very, very few guys
• 3:02:45
  are gonna walk around year round at 10.
• 3:02:47
  But I like to tell guys like you should stay 12 to 15
• 3:02:51
  and every now and then as a bucket list thing to do,
• 3:02:53
  get to 10, right?
• 3:02:55
  Just because you can do it.
• 3:02:56
  And it's the thing where it's like,
• 3:02:57
  I have control over my physique, right?
• 3:02:59
  But like those are the levels that if you stay in that range
• 3:03:03
  for the majority of your life, you will not get sick,
• 3:03:05
  you will not get disease.
• 3:03:07
  Because again, this are all body fat in the center mass.
• 3:03:10
  And for women, it's sometimes in the hips and the low back
• 3:03:13
  is what causes disease, dude.
• 3:03:14
  Because this whole body fat causes cytokine storms
• 3:03:17
  and cytokine storms are literally a giant inflammatory cascade
• 3:03:21
  that leads to horrible pain, suffering,
• 3:03:24
  again, default state of not healthy.
• 3:03:27
  Yeah, I know.
• 3:03:28
  I think that I can't remember who told who was saying this,
• 3:03:31
  but the two markers of living a long life
• 3:03:34
  are if you work out and lift weights
• 3:03:38
  and then your VO2 max.
• 3:03:39
  100%
• 3:03:39
  of the multiple VO2 max and grip strength
• 3:03:42
  determine how long you live.
• 3:03:43
  There's 100%.
• 3:03:44
  And grip strength is just normally better if you lift, right?
• 3:03:48
  And VO2 max, I'm glad you say that
• 3:03:50
  because we will get to that.
• 3:03:51
  A lot of people don't live, I mean, don't do cardio.
• 3:03:53
  They lift, but they don't do cardio.
• 3:03:55
  And especially as you get older,
• 3:03:56
  it's like grow and ladies, if you don't do cardio,
• 3:04:00
  you can have strength in your heart.
• 3:04:02
  And the heart and the vascular network around the heart
• 3:04:04
  is really the extender of life.
• 3:04:07
  Like if this is not efficient,
• 3:04:09
  you can't have blood flowing and pumping,
• 3:04:11
  as effectively as you would if you didn't.
• 3:04:13
  So you've got to do lifting,
• 3:04:15
  again, two or three days a week of resistance,
• 3:04:16
  but you also got to do cardio, you have to.
• 3:04:18
  And that's the important thing to you.
• 3:04:20
  So we can talk about anything else about GLPs
• 3:04:24
  because I want to talk about working out lifting
• 3:04:27
  because again, I don't want people to listen to the show
• 3:04:31
  and then just think, oh, I'm going to,
• 3:04:32
  and Jeb do the whole thing.
• 3:04:33
  I'm going to say, and it's going to save my life
• 3:04:35
  and I'm going to be in the best shape in my life.
• 3:04:37
  So any other thoughts about GLPs?
• 3:04:39
  No, just as great as I've raved about them
• 3:04:42
  and said them, again, they're just an adjuvant.
• 3:04:44
  Again, Renato Trutite has probably a little bit better
• 3:04:46
  than an adjuvant for all the things that it does.
• 3:04:48
  But if you don't have the basics
• 3:04:50
  and we'll define the basics as,
• 3:04:52
  you're getting six to eight hours of sleep every night, yeah.
• 3:04:55
  You're looking to make sure that you're hormonally optimized,
• 3:04:57
  whether you do it naturally
• 3:04:58
  or through therapeutic testosterone.
• 3:04:59
  Again, that's men and women, that's not just men.
• 3:05:02
  You're using probably a growth hormone agonist peptide
• 3:05:05
  or even growth hormone itself.
• 3:05:06
  We haven't talked about growth hormone.
• 3:05:08
  We should.
• 3:05:09
  A microdose.
• 3:05:09
  That's HGH.
• 3:05:10
  Yeah, exactly.
• 3:05:11
  A microdose of growth hormone at 40 and above
• 3:05:13
  is life extending.
• 3:05:14
  It's absolutely life enhancing and life altering.
• 3:05:18
  There's a lot of negative stigma
• 3:05:20
  that's been in the marketplace about growth hormone
• 3:05:22
  for some stupid reason.
• 3:05:23
  People think that it shuts down your body's pituitary
• 3:05:26
  and your natural production.
• 3:05:27
  It's complete nonsense.
• 3:05:29
  I've been using a microdose of human growth hormone
• 3:05:31
  since 2021.
• 3:05:33
  I use a genotropin, Pfizer, genotropin, from a pan.
• 3:05:36
  There's millions of people on the planet
• 3:05:38
  they're doing this now too.
• 3:05:39
  There are no side effects.
• 3:05:42
  You're not even even at my age of 54.
• 3:05:44
  You're not shutting down your body's natural IGF-1 levels.
• 3:05:47
  Scott, there are thousands of scientific studies
• 3:05:50
  peer reviewed using growth hormone in dwarfs, right?
• 3:05:54
  In children that have dwarfism
• 3:05:56
  or have the premature closing of the knee plates, right?
• 3:06:00
  And so they give them insanely high levels
• 3:06:03
  of growth hormone to overcome this
• 3:06:05
  so they can be normal sized adults.
• 3:06:07
  There's no side effects.
• 3:06:08
  They don't seek cancer.
• 3:06:10
  They don't see metastatic tumor formation.
• 3:06:12
  So for whatever misinformation was put out
• 3:06:15
  in the medical community, say 30 or 40 years ago
• 3:06:17
  about using growth hormone causing cancer
• 3:06:19
  or exacerbating tumors or anything, it's complete bullshit.
• 3:06:22
  Any smart anti-aging or longevity doctor will tell you
• 3:06:25
  that a small microdose of growth hormone
• 3:06:27
  both for a men and woman is amazing.
• 3:06:29
  If you can't afford it, and by the way,
• 3:06:30
  it's very affordable now.
• 3:06:32
  Okay, so my question was, it used to be,
• 3:06:34
  not a question, but it used to be way too expensive.
• 3:06:37
  It's to the average.
• 3:06:38
  Not anymore.
• 3:06:39
  Not anymore, there's a, since COVID,
• 3:06:40
  the online pharmacies around the world, bro,
• 3:06:41
  you can get a 36-IU pen for like 300 bucks.
• 3:06:44
  Well, that's generally less than like two months.
• 3:06:46
  And 10 years ago, it used to be fake to all this.
• 3:06:49
  It was bro, bro bodybuilding stuff.
• 3:06:50
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 3:06:52
  Green tops, yellow tops, all that stuff, right?
• 3:06:54
  Completely laughable, right?
• 3:06:55
  So you can get pharmaceutical grade genotropin
• 3:06:58
  or Nordotropin, which comes from Novo Nordesk,
• 3:07:01
  which is the highest quality in the world.
• 3:07:03
  Again, in a pen that you can carry around with you
• 3:07:05
  and it's amazing.
• 3:07:06
  But if you can't find that, you can't afford it,
• 3:07:09
  which nobody really can't.
• 3:07:10
  But let's just say you can't get your next
• 3:07:12
  specs option is growth hormone agonist peptides
• 3:07:14
  like a Tesla, like an Impa, like a CJC.
• 3:07:17
  Would you take both at the same time?
• 3:07:18
  So some people will, if you have like massive sleep issues,
• 3:07:22
  and you want to take like a microdose of growth hormone
• 3:07:24
  in the morning and say like a maybe a little bit more
• 3:07:28
  than a microdose of Tesla at night to enhance polyphasic sleep
• 3:07:31
  and deep restorative sleep you can.
• 3:07:34
  I don't see any negative risk to that.
• 3:07:35
  You may be just getting a little bit more growth hormone
• 3:07:38
  than you technically need.
• 3:07:39
  But again, if you have sleep problems,
• 3:07:40
  it's gonna help you sleep.
• 3:07:41
  Yeah.
• 3:07:42
  But yeah, so that's it.
• 3:07:43
  So those are the basic foundational precepts
• 3:07:46
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  to you.
• 3:12:24
  Yes, I'd be oil pezz white.
• 3:12:24
  I was whiter than you, bro.
• 3:12:26
  I started taking this in 2008 in a microdose
• 3:12:28
  and there's something else about this phenomenal
• 3:12:30
  that we must talk about.
• 3:12:32
  And it permanently changed my skin color.
• 3:12:34
  So now I dose this like, because I'm in Miami right now
• 3:12:38
  and I knew I was gonna be in the sun this morning
• 3:12:39
  and maybe I'll be in the morning tomorrow
• 3:12:41
  because we're actually gonna leave.
• 3:12:43
  I gotta get back to my seminar
• 3:12:44
  but I'll take a microdose in the morning
• 3:12:47
  before I get out and see it.
• 3:12:48
  Like I'd turn the sea tiny a bit.
• 3:12:50
  Like literally like 0.1 or 0.15 milligrams is nothing.
• 3:12:53
  But I've been using it since 2008
• 3:12:56
  in addition to changing my sun complexion.
• 3:12:58
  And again, so people understand this,
• 3:13:01
  the darker your melanin, the more protected
• 3:13:03
  from the sun you are.
• 3:13:04
  So I've actually improved my ability to not burn
• 3:13:08
  and to be more protected from the sun's damaging rays, right?
• 3:13:10
  And again, everything, again, pill it a poison.
• 3:13:14
  If you're gonna be in the sun, which is great for you,
• 3:13:16
  it's minimal, right?
• 3:13:17
  Morning, late afternoon when the red light from the sun
• 3:13:20
  is the best, if you're meditating or sun gazing
• 3:13:23
  or something like that.
• 3:13:24
  So that's when I get in it.
• 3:13:25
  But as you can see, I'm dark, bro,
• 3:13:26
  because of my melanin production, right?
• 3:13:28
  This also protects me from, again, cancers, skin cancers.
• 3:13:34
  I mean, I have, this is just a basal cell.
• 3:13:36
  I've had two of these in my life
• 3:13:38
  but you know, every 10 or 15 years,
• 3:13:39
  almost every white person gets one of these things.
• 3:13:41
  And so it gets surgically removed or just torn out.
• 3:13:45
  But it's amazing, but the primary benefit
• 3:13:48
  of melanin tan one, which I didn't actually realize
• 3:13:51
  initially when I first started taking
• 3:13:52
  is in the Hanson's consciousness.
• 3:13:54
  Now, I've written about this in multiple books.
• 3:13:56
  In the last three or four years,
• 3:13:58
  more and more people are starting to see this.
• 3:14:00
  Dr. Seeds, William Seeds, who's a famous peptide stalker.
• 3:14:05
  He talks about enhancing consciousness with this meditation,
• 3:14:09
  improving your mind's ability to go silent, right?
• 3:14:13
  Drown out to Dr. Monkey.
• 3:14:15
  And in fact, again, I never noticed it
• 3:14:17
  until probably like six or seven years ago
• 3:14:18
  and I started writing about it.
• 3:14:19
  But I became much more spiritual
• 3:14:21
  when I started injecting this.
• 3:14:22
  Like spirituality and evolving my,
• 3:14:24
  and growing my soul became a focus on my life.
• 3:14:27
  But it was indirect.
• 3:14:28
  So I never tied it to and to together.
• 3:14:29
  And then I started reading the research like later
• 3:14:32
  in 2016 and 2017 where people were talking about this.
• 3:14:34
  And I was like, oh, you know, it's like the light bulb came on.
• 3:14:37
  So it's an amazing peptide.
• 3:14:38
  Now, the other one dimension that people take,
• 3:14:40
  which I have to talk shit about is melanin tan two.
• 3:14:44
  Melanin tan two is definitely one of the only peptides
• 3:14:47
  that even though it enhances tanning
• 3:14:49
  and people get really dark,
• 3:14:50
  a lot of competitive bodybuilders,
• 3:14:51
  both men and women use it in some people, not all,
• 3:14:54
  but in some it can exacerbate or accelerate mole formation.
• 3:14:59
  So you can get like darker moles.
• 3:15:01
  Now, that doesn't make them cancerous,
• 3:15:04
  but obviously darker moles can become cancerous.
• 3:15:06
  So I avoid melanin tan two.
• 3:15:08
  The other thing that I would say about melanin tan two
• 3:15:10
  that must be mentioned is that some people get nauseous taking it.
• 3:15:14
  Some people also, because again,
• 3:15:16
  the melanin cord toward receptor complex peptides,
• 3:15:18
  just like PT-141,
• 3:15:19
  some guys get a spontaneous erection from it too.
• 3:15:22
  Yeah. So it's one of those peptides where it's like,
• 3:15:25
  if it works for you and you get really, really dark
• 3:15:28
  and you just use a tiny, tiny emit
• 3:15:30
  because you're a bodybuilder, you know, competitor
• 3:15:32
  and you want to get on stage really dark and defined,
• 3:15:34
  then use it for a short amount of time
• 3:15:36
  as long as it's not darkening moles.
• 3:15:37
  But for most people, the risks outweigh the rewards.
• 3:15:41
  You don't want to have dark and moles
• 3:15:43
  and you definitely don't want to have a spontaneous fraction.
• 3:15:45
  Are you, you don't want to need that?
• 3:15:47
  Ah, they're not useful.
• 3:15:49
  They're a lot of, listen, a lot of the stuff we're talking about
• 3:15:52
  is very useful for health and wellness.
• 3:15:54
  This is more of a vanity.
• 3:15:55
  Exactly.
• 3:15:56
  Yeah, no, no.
• 3:15:57
  melanin tan two is literally created for tanning.
• 3:15:59
  melanin tan one was done for consciousness and enhancement.
• 3:16:02
  But the other thing that I didn't mention is
• 3:16:05
  melanin tan one is actually FDA approved.
• 3:16:07
  It's called brilaminotanid, brilaminotide
• 3:16:10
  and it's outrageously expensive, horse it is.
• 3:16:13
  Bro, no lie, I can buy it, direct for $3.00 of aisle
• 3:16:18
  of 10 milligrams, they sell it with a script for 1,900 bucks.
• 3:16:22
  So think of that more cup.
• 3:16:24
  Yeah, that's pharma.
• 3:16:26
  Exactly, so it's pharma.
• 3:16:27
  If you're listening to this right now
• 3:16:29
  and you're like me and you use this
• 3:16:30
  and you're getting a script, stop.
• 3:16:33
  Go to bioelongevitylabs.com and buy it.
• 3:16:35
  It's not 10 dollars because we got to make money
• 3:16:37
  but it's not expensive.
• 3:16:38
  It's not, it's not 1,900 bucks.
• 3:16:40
  No.
• 3:16:41
  Pharma makes money, man.
• 3:16:43
  Pharma makes.
• 3:16:44
  The biggest.
• 3:16:44
  It's the biggest profit centering the world, bro.
• 3:16:47
  What did you say,
• 3:16:49
  a manjarro and $4 billion off of just,
• 3:16:54
  or one one turns out a time last year,
• 3:16:55
  or one pipeline.
• 3:16:56
  And that's not the biggest, right?
• 3:16:57
  Cause somagletide, which is would go be
• 3:16:59
  is the most prescribed and most you don't much that.
• 3:17:01
  I don't know, but my estimates are it's over 10 billion.
• 3:17:04
  It's more than four billion.
• 3:17:05
  Yeah, it's a lot more than four billion, right?
• 3:17:08
  Last piece of the puzzle, working out.
• 3:17:11
  So we've spoken about, you know,
• 3:17:13
  testosterone therapy, optimizing hormones.
• 3:17:15
  You know, we talked about like lifestyle a lot as well
• 3:17:17
  and then peptides.
• 3:17:18
  And I think that working out is a big piece of it
• 3:17:21
  and obviously it's a big piece of both of our lives.
• 3:17:23
  So what are, what are thoughts about, you know,
• 3:17:27
  what should you do if you're going down this journey
• 3:17:30
  of health and wellness and say you've never worked out ever
• 3:17:33
  before? Where do you start?
• 3:17:35
  Or you never worked out properly?
• 3:17:36
  No, I mean, it's a good question.
• 3:17:38
  I mean, you know, I'm glad we saved this for the end
• 3:17:40
  because I'm very outspoken about this,
• 3:17:42
  but the average person who goes to a gym
• 3:17:44
  has no idea what they're doing.
• 3:17:45
  You know that, I know that we see these people,
• 3:17:47
  we feel bad for them.
• 3:17:48
  But again, you can't go up and wave your arms and say,
• 3:17:50
  hey, I can show you how to do this better, right?
• 3:17:53
  A person has to be receptive to changing their patterns
• 3:17:58
  and obviously doing the work, right?
• 3:17:59
  So unfortunately, most people don't understand how to train.
• 3:18:03
  And what I mean by that, so I can define that is
• 3:18:06
  to build a muscle and to change your physique as you age,
• 3:18:09
  you have to lift to what I call positive muscle failure.
• 3:18:12
  Some people call it progressive overload, right?
• 3:18:14
  What does that mean? Let's define it.
• 3:18:15
  It means that you train in a rep range
• 3:18:18
  that when your set ends, you failed.
• 3:18:21
  Now, you have a total failed, like in bi-building
• 3:18:23
  where they're like, you have somebody assisting you
• 3:18:25
  and doing bench press and somebody's spotting you,
• 3:18:29
  but as an aging person, man or woman,
• 3:18:31
  you're not going to have a spotter all the time.
• 3:18:33
  And so you want to go to a point where you cannot do one more rep
• 3:18:37
  in good form without using ego and momentum, right?
• 3:18:39
  You're not herky jerky or something, right?
• 3:18:41
  So that is how you build muscle.
• 3:18:43
  And again, consistently, Darren Hardy, over time,
• 3:18:47
  training to positive muscle failure will change your physique.
• 3:18:49
  And so many people don't understand this.
• 3:18:51
  Now, let's talk about this and drill down
• 3:18:54
  and deeper into the rabbit hole.
• 3:18:56
  If you're not an athlete, you know, you didn't wrestle
• 3:18:58
  or play football or basketball or baseball or soccer
• 3:19:01
  or whatever growing up as a kid,
• 3:19:02
  it's probably likely that you don't have
• 3:19:05
  a lot of neurological coordination, right?
• 3:19:06
  You didn't practice, like you and I, we practiced.
• 3:19:09
  It was part of our life.
• 3:19:10
  But also when you do those sports,
• 3:19:11
  if you play them at a competitive level,
• 3:19:13
  you do get proper weight training.
• 3:19:14
  That's true.
• 3:19:15
  You get coaching, all that's involved, right?
• 3:19:17
  So an average person who isn't that,
• 3:19:18
  and that's fine if you're like that,
• 3:19:20
  you don't have what we have,
• 3:19:22
  because we learn from practice and from coaching.
• 3:19:25
  So what is the solution, Scott?
• 3:19:26
  It's not to go to the gym and fuck off for 30 years, right?
• 3:19:32
  Which is what most people do.
• 3:19:33
  They go to the gym is like checking the box
• 3:19:37
  and they don't even know what to do.
• 3:19:38
  I want a church on Sundays.
• 3:19:40
  I dress with my finest clothes.
• 3:19:42
  I do all the rituals, I shake hands,
• 3:19:44
  I put the money in the basket, and now I'm spiritual.
• 3:19:47
  Now I'm religious, I've done it.
• 3:19:49
  Now I can be an asshole the other six days of the week,
• 3:19:52
  and I know where I am religious.
• 3:19:54
  It's so true.
• 3:19:55
  So it's like if you're one of these people
• 3:19:56
  and you're listening to this right now,
• 3:19:58
  you know, it's okay, raise your hand, right?
• 3:19:59
  But it's like the truth is, is you must hire a coach.
• 3:20:03
  You must hire a quote unquote personal trainer.
• 3:20:05
  It doesn't have to be necessarily the trainer
• 3:20:07
  at your big box gym,
• 3:20:08
  because you and I know most of those people are suck.
• 3:20:11
  The good ones at these big box gyms aren't even gonna see you.
• 3:20:13
  Anyway, because they have too many clients.
• 3:20:15
  So find somebody that can teach you how to lift
• 3:20:19
  to positive muscle failure.
• 3:20:20
  The correct strategy, technique, sets and reps,
• 3:20:24
  intensity, all that stuff can be taught,
• 3:20:26
  and we both discuss this in under three months.
• 3:20:29
  You can learn how to lift,
• 3:20:32
  which by the way is going to benefit you
• 3:20:34
  for the rest of your life in three months.
• 3:20:37
  Some shorter, maybe some need six,
• 3:20:40
  but you cannot become dependent on your trainer or your coach
• 3:20:44
  to push you through your workouts.
• 3:20:46
  Now, I wanna mention this
• 3:20:48
  because we talked about this previously, off air.
• 3:20:50
  If you're a super rich billionaire,
• 3:20:52
  100 millionaire, whatever you are,
• 3:20:54
  and your life is all job,
• 3:20:55
  and you just wanna literally be brain dead
• 3:20:57
  when you come to the gym and hire a coach
• 3:20:59
  to push you around, that's a different story.
• 3:21:01
  But for average people, which is the majority of people,
• 3:21:04
  and I won't call you average,
• 3:21:05
  but just the average person listening to his podcast,
• 3:21:07
  you don't need a coach every time you go to the fucking gym.
• 3:21:09
  That's insane.
• 3:21:11
  And besides, you should be inherently motivated
• 3:21:13
  and driven to go and do it to build a better body,
• 3:21:15
  not for narcissistic or vain purposes,
• 3:21:17
  but to be stronger and functional as you age, right?
• 3:21:20
  You wanna run around with your kids?
• 3:21:23
  I wanna pick up your grandkids,
• 3:21:25
  hike a mountain, exactly.
• 3:21:26
  There's no reason that you can't be in your 70s, 80s,
• 3:21:29
  and 90s, and totally physically strong.
• 3:21:33
  And I would just say productive, right?
• 3:21:35
  You had a good stat, like the leading cause of,
• 3:21:38
  was it leading cause of death?
• 3:21:40
  And elderly people, literally a hip fracture,
• 3:21:43
  which is a spiral hip fracture,
• 3:21:44
  and then a spiral hip fracture,
• 3:21:45
  because it's a compound fracture
• 3:21:46
  leads to break down of the biological system function,
• 3:21:49
  organ functioning, heart, vascular, and they die.
• 3:21:53
  That's how they all die.
• 3:21:54
  I mean, literally almost all old people
• 3:21:56
  who fall and break their hip die within a month,
• 3:21:58
  because everything shuts down.
• 3:22:00
  And that can be easily prevented, dude.
• 3:22:02
  That's all due to osteophenia and sarcopenia,
• 3:22:04
  which is lack of muscle, lack of bone mineral density.
• 3:22:07
  And why do they not have bone mineral density?
• 3:22:10
  Cause they sat on their ass their whole life,
• 3:22:12
  watching the fucking book tube.
• 3:22:14
  It's like, dude, don't say that you can't afford a gym,
• 3:22:17
  or don't say that you don't exercise.
• 3:22:19
  I mean, bro, as you and I know,
• 3:22:20
  you could literally just do standing squats, pushups,
• 3:22:24
  and get a towel and put it around a door handle and pull,
• 3:22:28
  and take it to positive muscle failure,
• 3:22:30
  and do it three times a week,
• 3:22:31
  and you will be stronger and live longer
• 3:22:33
  than the people that are falling and breaking their hip.
• 3:22:35
  Now, obviously, you should go to a gym
• 3:22:37
  because you have more access to equipment
• 3:22:38
  and you have better options.
• 3:22:39
  But for those that can't, don't come up with excuses.
• 3:22:42
  But I mean, look, dude, again, we said it before,
• 3:22:44
  we'll say it again, the key of living a long life
• 3:22:47
  is to remain lean.
• 3:22:48
  You can't be lean unless you have muscle.
• 3:22:51
  Muscle is the greatest deterrent to the diseases of aging.
• 3:22:54
  The more muscle you have, the more metabolically active you are,
• 3:22:58
  the more insulin sensitivity you are,
• 3:23:00
  the more you burn calories,
• 3:23:01
  I'd accelerate rate while you're sitting here, right?
• 3:23:04
  So it's like, muscle is the gift that keeps on giving.
• 3:23:08
  I think women hear that, we should say this,
• 3:23:10
  and they're like, oh, I don't wanna be a big bulky bodybuilder.
• 3:23:13
  You know, I wanna hear that.
• 3:23:14
  I think that's it.
• 3:23:15
  I wanna be lies, I wanna be toned, I wanna be sculpted.
• 3:23:18
  As a woman, you cannot be a big bodybuilder
• 3:23:21
  unless you take tons of testosterone
• 3:23:23
  and God knows what other things, right?
• 3:23:25
  So you're not gonna be that way.
• 3:23:26
  You can go to a gym as a woman
• 3:23:28
  and you can pump iron hard core
• 3:23:29
  and you're only gonna get toned.
• 3:23:32
  You're not gonna get big and bulky.
• 3:23:33
  So, and it all depends on diet.
• 3:23:35
  Exactly, but stop thinking that bodybuilding
• 3:23:37
  or lifting weights is for men and not for women.
• 3:23:39
  So many people think that, and it's ridiculous.
• 3:23:42
  I believe the exact same as you.
• 3:23:43
  I've always found it so stupid.
• 3:23:44
  I mean, when I go to the gym, it's like,
• 3:23:48
  you structure your lifts around bench deadlift squat.
• 3:23:52
  That's always what I've been to us.
• 3:23:53
  And then you have all of you have your compound movements
• 3:23:56
  and then you can do some isolation stuff on the side.
• 3:23:58
  But if you get those down, first of all,
• 3:24:00
  you're strengthening all your joints
• 3:24:01
  all your tendon and your neurologically coordinate.
• 3:24:03
  Yes, and I think that everyone, women, men,
• 3:24:06
  everyone should focus on those lifts to a degree.
• 3:24:09
  And it's not like you're one rep maxing and PRing.
• 3:24:13
  No, and let's talk about that.
• 3:24:14
  Cause I'm glad you brought that up to unpack that.
• 3:24:17
  Those three foundational movements,
• 3:24:19
  bench squat deadlift or what everyone should learn to do.
• 3:24:22
  And I would say do until you're 45.
• 3:24:25
  At 45, the body doesn't have what it's called
• 3:24:29
  to novial fluid in the joint capsulations
• 3:24:32
  like it did at your age or in your 20s.
• 3:24:34
  So that doesn't mean you should stop squatting
• 3:24:36
  deadlifting and benching, but you should not be doing it heavy
• 3:24:39
  and you should not be doing it like, you know,
• 3:24:42
  like you said, a one or three or five repetition.
• 3:24:45
  You should be doing it lighter, controlled weight,
• 3:24:48
  controlled moment.
• 3:24:48
  I mean, controlled movement and doing higher reps.
• 3:24:51
  But the bottom line is you're right.
• 3:24:53
  If you learn those exercises initially
• 3:24:55
  in your 20s, 30s and early 40s,
• 3:24:57
  then you are stronger neurologically
• 3:25:00
  and you're more, I would say biomechanically sound.
• 3:25:02
  So then as you get older, you can actually just start using
• 3:25:05
  primarily like say 70% of your exercises will be machine
• 3:25:09
  and 30% will be free weights, right?
• 3:25:11
  And again, and this is important to stress.
• 3:25:14
  As you get older and you're stronger already neurologically,
• 3:25:18
  you machines can generate more force
• 3:25:21
  from a lever standpoint, right?
• 3:25:23
  Then then then then full body compound movements
• 3:25:25
  because you don't have to rely on the joints
• 3:25:27
  and the other tissues, right?
• 3:25:28
  So like for example, if you're a 50 year old guy
• 3:25:30
  and you're a nice physique and you wanna go and do chest,
• 3:25:34
  you're gonna get more intensity from a chest,
• 3:25:37
  like an incline chest machine, like a hammer strike machine,
• 3:25:40
  then you would if you were doing dumbbells.
• 3:25:42
  So you're actually hitting the chest.
• 3:25:43
  Exactly.
• 3:25:44
  That's what I was gonna say.
• 3:25:44
  You're stressing the primary mover, which is the chest
• 3:25:48
  versus the delts versus the elbow versus the triceps, right?
• 3:25:52
  Which are all indirectly involved.
• 3:25:53
  But you can't like, there's no shortcut.
• 3:25:55
  You have to do the compound movements,
• 3:25:58
  the dumbbell movements in your earlier years
• 3:26:00
  before you become really, really strong,
• 3:26:02
  say in your 40s and 50s.
• 3:26:03
  But I just like to tell people that as you get older,
• 3:26:06
  you can definitely rely on machines more
• 3:26:08
  because you can absolutely stress that prime mover
• 3:26:11
  or that joint better than you can with machines.
• 3:26:13
  But a combination balance is always key.
• 3:26:15
  I also think that my biggest issue with trainers
• 3:26:18
  and if somebody wants to get a trainer,
• 3:26:19
  you know, they go to the gym,
• 3:26:21
  they go to this is what the average person does.
• 3:26:22
  They go to the big box gym, they ask for a trainer.
• 3:26:25
  And what I hate about trainers is they don't focus
• 3:26:29
  on the basics and what they try and do.
• 3:26:32
  They're on balls and these retarded youngs.
• 3:26:34
  And you know, are you, do you think?
• 3:26:36
  The term, the best term for what I see trainers doing
• 3:26:39
  with people is it's fuck around.
• 3:26:42
  Object, like, yeah, just like,
• 3:26:44
  they're not doing anything useless.
• 3:26:46
  They're doing everything that I think they're,
• 3:26:49
  I think the reason my trainers do it
• 3:26:50
  is because they want to confuse the client
• 3:26:52
  to thinking that I can't work out without this person.
• 3:26:56
  Keep coming by.
• 3:26:57
  So if the trainer can't teach you what to do in three months
• 3:27:01
  and they don't focus on core lifts
• 3:27:03
  or at least things that seem like you can walk
• 3:27:05
  into the gym without them and do 100% that's a scam.
• 3:27:09
  I think it's a fucking scam.
• 3:27:10
  It's a 100% and again, it, you know,
• 3:27:13
  outside of the rich people that say,
• 3:27:14
  I, I pay that person to just confuse me, right?
• 3:27:17
  For three days a week, for 45 minutes a session or whatever.
• 3:27:20
  And those are that small minority,
• 3:27:22
  that's 100% accurate because again,
• 3:27:24
  if you do not learn the intensity,
• 3:27:28
  what's called the desire to show up in that three months,
• 3:27:31
  then what the fuck are you doing anyway?
• 3:27:32
  You're not paying attention.
• 3:27:34
  Well, I've had trainers and this is the thing.
• 3:27:35
  This is different.
• 3:27:36
  So people are gonna be well done.
• 3:27:37
  What's the point of a trainer?
• 3:27:38
  So I've had, I know how to work out
• 3:27:40
  and I know all the lifts.
• 3:27:41
  Now, when I have a trainer who's fucking kicking my ass
• 3:27:44
  in the gym and you know when a trainer counts down from 12,
• 3:27:48
  but then they count 12, 10 times before the, yeah,
• 3:27:50
  they're like 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 11.
• 3:27:54
  And like people that push you beyond the different story,
• 3:27:58
  that's what a trainer's for.
• 3:27:59
  So a trainer, a trainer, I think is more mental
• 3:28:03
  than anything else.
• 3:28:04
  But again, but I would do all those same lifts without that brand.
• 3:28:07
  I was just gonna say and we've already said this,
• 3:28:09
  you don't need that guy more than 90 days, right?
• 3:28:11
  Because if you learn the intensity necessary
• 3:28:14
  to change your body composition,
• 3:28:16
  then it should be inherent in your mind that like,
• 3:28:18
  okay, I'm doing this because I know I need this
• 3:28:21
  and I know what I need to do
• 3:28:22
  from a stimulation standpoint.
• 3:28:23
  So I'm gonna do drop sets, right?
• 3:28:25
  Instead of that trainer pushing me for 12 more reps,
• 3:28:27
  I'm gonna drop the weight in half
• 3:28:29
  and do 10 more reps myself.
• 3:28:31
  So again, you become inherently motivating to do
• 3:28:33
  what you already know.
• 3:28:35
  Not to say that it's okay not to hire an awesome coach
• 3:28:37
  every now and then and I look,
• 3:28:39
  I have no problem hiring a coach
• 3:28:41
  when you're in your 40s and 50s for say six months
• 3:28:43
  or three months just out of the blue
• 3:28:44
  because you want to do something
• 3:28:46
  and you want to see like a benefit or a gain
• 3:28:48
  and you want to like see what this person would be doing.
• 3:28:49
  You want to like have fun?
• 3:28:52
  This is the push, I need to ask,
• 3:28:54
  so you want to push beyond there's nothing more than that.
• 3:28:55
  But like I said, man, like the whole point of like
• 3:28:58
  what we're talking about is that people have to understand
• 3:29:00
  what it takes to build a better body.
• 3:29:02
  And it's not what you said, I love that word.
• 3:29:05
  It's not going to the gym, fuck around, I just three days a week,
• 3:29:08
  clocking in, clocking out, getting fatter,
• 3:29:11
  joints breaking further and further down
• 3:29:13
  because again, dude, as you get older,
• 3:29:14
  your metabolism slows down, you're not gonna look better.
• 3:29:17
  Being at my age, my wife's age, people are age in our 50s
• 3:29:21
  and having a six pack or having an amazing physique,
• 3:29:23
  it takes work.
• 3:29:24
  But not only does it take work, it takes knowledge
• 3:29:27
  and the knowledge or the noses of getting there
• 3:29:29
  is actually more than half the battle
• 3:29:31
  because if you don't know how to get there,
• 3:29:33
  no amount of work is gonna get you there.
• 3:29:35
  And that's why I get mad when I see older people
• 3:29:39
  who clearly aren't, you know, New Year's resolutions people, right?
• 3:29:42
  Like these are people that have been coming to the gym
• 3:29:43
  for decades and they look like shit.
• 3:29:46
  And it's because all you have to do is watch one set
• 3:29:48
  and you're like, what the fuck is that person doing?
• 3:29:50
  You know what I mean, right?
• 3:29:51
  It's the people that are pulling the bar down like this
• 3:29:53
  are doing tricep push downs like this and this and this.
• 3:29:57
  And it's like, dude, like really?
• 3:30:00
  Like you couldn't have hired somebody
• 3:30:02
  at one point in your life and when you say this
• 3:30:05
  because a lot of people talk about this now,
• 3:30:06
  especially the younger generation,
• 3:30:08
  way younger than you, bro, they go on Instagram
• 3:30:10
  and they go on Snapchat and they go on TikTok
• 3:30:13
  and they watch these young fit bro and fit ho influencers
• 3:30:17
  who also are very gifted genetically
• 3:30:20
  and they think they're just gonna watch them
• 3:30:21
  and they're gonna learn how to train doing that.
• 3:30:23
  That is when it gets retarded.
• 3:30:25
  Because you, again, if you don't have neurological
• 3:30:28
  coordination, you were not an athlete,
• 3:30:29
  you were not coached, you didn't practice.
• 3:30:31
  You gotta have somebody that can teach you how to do this.
• 3:30:34
  It's really that simple.
• 3:30:35
  So you also, if you're also following people on Instagram
• 3:30:37
  and you're a natural, say you're a natural kid,
• 3:30:39
  like you know, 16, 17, 18, you're not taking any drugs
• 3:30:43
  and kids take gear so young now.
• 3:30:47
  So arms.
• 3:30:48
  So arms, we talked about, you know,
• 3:30:49
  we always spoke about so arms how bad they are
• 3:30:51
  but they also, I mean, they also take a lot of gear.
• 3:30:53
  Yeah, they say dude and some of these like 18, 19 year olds,
• 3:30:56
  they've been taking stuff that they're 16.
• 3:30:58
  They're shutting, we should mention,
• 3:31:00
  but the point is you can't look at them
• 3:31:02
  as this is how I should train.
• 3:31:04
  No, and just to say this,
• 3:31:06
  because we talked about so arms,
• 3:31:07
  but like if you're a young guy or gal
• 3:31:09
  and you're using gear and your early age,
• 3:31:11
  there's gonna be hell to pay later
• 3:31:13
  because you are shutting down things that have not fully formed.
• 3:31:18
  And so you have like essentially, I mean, again, dude,
• 3:31:21
  and you see this all the time, you know,
• 3:31:22
  I think of that guy Boston Lloyd.
• 3:31:24
  Yeah, when you accelerate,
• 3:31:25
  when you accelerate your basic physiology through drug use
• 3:31:31
  before it would have naturally happened,
• 3:31:33
  all you do is do bad things.
• 3:31:35
  So I guess the moral is,
• 3:31:37
  if you're a young person and you're watching this
• 3:31:38
  and I'm sure you have a lot of aspiring young people
• 3:31:40
  that don't do so arms A,
• 3:31:42
  and if you're gonna do anything,
• 3:31:44
  just use a microdose of therapeutic testosterone
• 3:31:46
  when you have a deficiency based on your biomarker measurement
• 3:31:49
  and don't go anywhere else until you're in your 30s
• 3:31:52
  because you are neurologically still growing
• 3:31:54
  and developing until you're 30 years old.
• 3:31:56
  Like you don't shift.
• 3:31:57
  You don't grow height wise anymore, right?
• 3:32:00
  And past like 21, 22,
• 3:32:02
  but you're neurologically still developing.
• 3:32:04
  So I would not do anything other than touch testosterone.
• 3:32:06
  You want to use like microdose manabolic,
• 3:32:08
  so that's fine in your 30s and 40s,
• 3:32:10
  but wait until everything is done.
• 3:32:12
  Yeah, people are so,
• 3:32:13
  as people just want to move so quick,
• 3:32:16
  Boston Lloyd treated himself as like an experiment.
• 3:32:20
  Yeah.
• 3:32:22
  I literally Alex Keikle who's speaking at my seminar
• 3:32:24
  was very good friends with Boston
• 3:32:26
  and him and I have had, you know,
• 3:32:27
  deep personal 101 conversations about that guy.
• 3:32:29
  He was a very interesting guy.
• 3:32:31
  He was not a bad guy.
• 3:32:33
  He was actually well liked,
• 3:32:34
  but yeah dude,
• 3:32:35
  he did not have any self-worth
• 3:32:36
  and his worth was how much can I inject every single day?
• 3:32:40
  Like Alex told me he was like,
• 3:32:42
  his personal need was living based on
• 3:32:46
  how he can how much he can inject every day.
• 3:32:48
  Like that's what he lived off of.
• 3:32:49
  Like I had to do it.
• 3:32:50
  I mean, it's sad,
• 3:32:51
  but this is where people go because again,
• 3:32:53
  it's not the only one.
• 3:32:54
  It's not,
• 3:32:55
  it's a hungry,
• 3:32:55
  but the truth is,
• 3:32:56
  and again, we can get to this before this is over
• 3:32:58
  and talk a little bit about spirituality.
• 3:33:00
  It's like,
• 3:33:00
  when you don't have love and trust of self,
• 3:33:03
  you don't have worth.
• 3:33:04
  And so your worth is generated based on like what you do.
• 3:33:07
  You know what I mean?
• 3:33:08
  And I don't mean like productive wise,
• 3:33:10
  but just like your physiology
• 3:33:12
  or your narcissistic vanity of being bigger and bigger and bigger.
• 3:33:16
  And so many guys in the bodybuilding realm
• 3:33:18
  and all of us have a part of this.
• 3:33:19
  We have what is called muscle dysmorphia.
• 3:33:21
  We don't see ourselves what we actually look like.
• 3:33:25
  We're either smaller,
• 3:33:26
  we're not lean enough,
• 3:33:27
  we're not muscular enough, right?
• 3:33:28
  It's like we're a worst critics.
• 3:33:30
  And so I always tell people like,
• 3:33:31
  that's cool.
• 3:33:32
  We all start there,
• 3:33:33
  but you gotta work on your inner game
• 3:33:35
  so that you can get to a place
• 3:33:36
  where you do look in the mirror
• 3:33:37
  and you do feel worthy
• 3:33:38
  and you do feel enough.
• 3:33:40
  I'm enough.
• 3:33:41
  I don't have to be bigger.
• 3:33:42
  I don't have to be smaller.
• 3:33:43
  It doesn't matter that I'm not that lean.
• 3:33:47
  It doesn't matter that I'm not that muscular.
• 3:33:49
  So-and-so has a better physique than me,
• 3:33:50
  and that's fine.
• 3:33:51
  I don't have to compare and contrast, right?
• 3:33:53
  Too many people today,
• 3:33:54
  it's all about comparison
• 3:33:55
  because social media, right?
• 3:33:56
  Comparison is the theme of it.
• 3:33:57
  I don't even know why guys do it
• 3:33:58
  because you know what?
• 3:33:59
  Guys get into bodybuilding
• 3:34:01
  to get the girl, right?
• 3:34:03
  A hundred percent,
• 3:34:04
  everything is sexy.
• 3:34:05
  Everything is sexy.
• 3:34:06
  But then who do you actually get attention from
• 3:34:08
  when you're jacked and shredded?
• 3:34:09
  All other dudes,
• 3:34:11
  all other dudes,
• 3:34:12
  you look so good, dude.
• 3:34:13
  You look good,
• 3:34:15
  it's protein,
• 3:34:16
  it's kind of,
• 3:34:17
  it's not even giving shit.
• 3:34:18
  There's this saying in Russian
• 3:34:19
  that I only know because
• 3:34:21
  Gina speaks Russian
• 3:34:22
  amongst the other languages,
• 3:34:24
  but the saying is,
• 3:34:26
  and I can't speak Russian,
• 3:34:27
  but I'll say in English,
• 3:34:27
  a man should only be slightly more attractive
• 3:34:30
  than a monkey.
• 3:34:31
  That's the saying.
• 3:34:32
  That's the saying.
• 3:34:33
  So the point is,
• 3:34:34
  you should be focused on work
• 3:34:35
  because you focus on making money.
• 3:34:37
  Now I'm not saying money is everything,
• 3:34:39
  but you should see some,
• 3:34:40
  it's a pretty interesting dynamic
• 3:34:42
  that we have some friends that are very,
• 3:34:45
  below average looking Russian guys
• 3:34:47
  with like supermodels.
• 3:34:48
  The point is they focused on,
• 3:34:49
  how do I make wealth?
• 3:34:50
  How do I build a business?
• 3:34:51
  How do I,
• 3:34:52
  and I think that listen,
• 3:34:54
  I don't think it's good to,
• 3:34:55
  I don't think it's good to just focus on money.
• 3:34:57
  I don't think it's good to just become,
• 3:34:58
  you know, ripped and shredded
• 3:34:59
  and not focus on business either.
• 3:35:01
  I don't think it's good to do either those things
• 3:35:03
  and then forget about your,
• 3:35:04
  your mental health or your spirituality.
• 3:35:06
  But the point is you,
• 3:35:08
  you should be focused on upskilling across all levels
• 3:35:11
  of your life.
• 3:35:12
  And if you,
• 3:35:13
  if you want to be in shape,
• 3:35:13
  being in shape does not mean
• 3:35:15
  being 250 pounds,
• 3:35:17
  7% body fat.
• 3:35:18
  That's not in shape.
• 3:35:19
  Exactly.
• 3:35:20
  And if you,
• 3:35:21
  if you build a,
• 3:35:22
  that's a new level.
• 3:35:22
  And if you want to make money,
• 3:35:23
  fine, make money.
• 3:35:24
  But don't make money at the expat,
• 3:35:26
  like if you have a $100 million exit
• 3:35:29
  and your kids hate you
• 3:35:30
  and your wife hates you
• 3:35:32
  and your parents hate you
• 3:35:33
  and you have nobody left in your life,
• 3:35:34
  also not worth it.
• 3:35:36
  I love the up-leveling.
• 3:35:37
  I think,
• 3:35:38
  I think to just add to that is,
• 3:35:41
  and this is statistically proven too,
• 3:35:43
  but if you take care of yourself
• 3:35:45
  and again, like you said,
• 3:35:46
  it's not being 250 pounds
• 3:35:47
  and 8% body fat.
• 3:35:49
  If you're lean,
• 3:35:51
  functional,
• 3:35:52
  maintaining that 10 to 15% body fat year-round type,
• 3:35:55
  you know, body,
• 3:35:57
  we're going to want
• 3:35:58
  into a room
• 3:36:00
  exuding persona.
• 3:36:02
  You will exude confidence.
• 3:36:04
  People will take you seriously.
• 3:36:06
  They're not going to look at you
• 3:36:07
  like you're some fucking stiff
• 3:36:09
  or some sort of slob.
• 3:36:10
  You know what I'm saying?
• 3:36:11
  Like you said,
• 3:36:12
  like no guy who exits a $100 million
• 3:36:14
  who's a metabolic emergency gets respect.
• 3:36:16
  Nobody gives a fuck.
• 3:36:18
  Nobody gives a shit, dude.
• 3:36:20
  Again, you exit $100 million
• 3:36:22
  and now you're like,
• 3:36:23
  oh, I'm going to take care of my personal health.
• 3:36:24
  It doesn't work like that.
• 3:36:25
  You're already a disaster.
• 3:36:27
  It's going to take you years
• 3:36:28
  if you can even last that long
• 3:36:30
  because you know how much hard work
• 3:36:32
  it's going to be to get back, right?
• 3:36:33
  So it's like,
• 3:36:34
  it really does be who you balance is key,
• 3:36:38
  but like if you just take care of yourself enough
• 3:36:40
  that when you walk into a room
• 3:36:41
  that both men and women literally respect you
• 3:36:43
  because they're like,
• 3:36:44
  oh, this guy takes care of himself.
• 3:36:46
  I mean, I've seen so many influencers speak about how
• 3:36:50
  a 40 plus year old man walks into a room
• 3:36:53
  and this goes with women too,
• 3:36:55
  but obviously from a business standpoint,
• 3:36:56
  it's men who's in shape,
• 3:36:58
  that person is taken seriously
• 3:37:00
  more than the person who isn't.
• 3:37:03
  And that's just human nature, right?
• 3:37:04
  That that's instinctual.
• 3:37:06
  Like even babies, right?
• 3:37:07
  They've done studies.
• 3:37:08
  Babies see physical form and beauty over sloven.
• 3:37:14
  You know, out of shape people.
• 3:37:15
  Like they can see it, right?
• 3:37:16
  They draw a line like all these different things.
• 3:37:19
  So it's like,
• 3:37:19
  if none of this makes any sense to you
• 3:37:21
  and you're listening to this
• 3:37:22
  and you think me and you are crazy,
• 3:37:24
  like you should just be looking at this.
• 3:37:26
  Like if your life is about like I want to get ahead,
• 3:37:28
  I want to have a better life
• 3:37:29
  I want to provide for my family and my kids,
• 3:37:30
  you know, leave a legacy
• 3:37:32
  then you should just take your health seriously
• 3:37:33
  because statistically you have a better chance
• 3:37:36
  of doing all those things healthy.
• 3:37:38
  Yeah.
• 3:37:39
  And again, I mean, I'm having time
• 3:37:40
  maybe also this self-confidence,
• 3:37:42
  it glutes over into business.
• 3:37:44
  When you walk, I mean, think about this.
• 3:37:47
  How many times in your life have you felt
• 3:37:51
  looked at or judged or observed,
• 3:37:53
  walking into a room by others
• 3:37:55
  and it's in a good way
• 3:37:57
  because they look at you
• 3:37:57
  and they're like, oh, this dude takes care of himself.
• 3:37:59
  Thousand percent, a thousand percent.
• 3:38:01
  You get confidence immediately.
• 3:38:03
  And so like that instantly,
• 3:38:05
  regardless of your personality style,
• 3:38:07
  that instantly makes you feel better
• 3:38:09
  about your chances and your opportunity.
• 3:38:11
  Imagine when you're doing a presentation
• 3:38:13
  and you're trying to make a pace for something.
• 3:38:15
  So there's two, there's two views, right?
• 3:38:16
  The you that's in shape,
• 3:38:17
  that isn't out of breath,
• 3:38:20
  that isn't sweating,
• 3:38:22
  that isn't feeling gross and tired
• 3:38:24
  versus the you that's in the day
• 3:38:26
  that you're not sweating, you're not out of breath,
• 3:38:28
  you're cognitively there
• 3:38:30
  because you didn't eat shit for lunch.
• 3:38:31
  So you're not hitting this like, you know,
• 3:38:33
  this glucose insulin roller coaster,
• 3:38:36
  who do you think is going to close the deal?
• 3:38:37
  That's exactly, exactly true.
• 3:38:39
  And that's what's so mind-blowing
• 3:38:41
  is if people don't realize that.
• 3:38:43
  You know what I'm saying?
• 3:38:44
  They get so caught up in like the nice clothes,
• 3:38:46
  the expensive watch.
• 3:38:48
  And it's like, bro, you look like one of my buddies
• 3:38:50
  you should say, you're 190 pounds of shit
• 3:38:53
  and 125 pound bag, right?
• 3:38:56
  Like people do see that.
• 3:38:57
  I mean, good or bad, first impressions are everything.
• 3:39:01
  And people do instinctually judge
• 3:39:04
  based on the way you look.
• 3:39:06
  I don't give a shit who you are.
• 3:39:08
  If you walk into a room and you are physically in shape
• 3:39:11
  again, we're not, like you said,
• 3:39:12
  we're not talking you because that's not in shape.
• 3:39:14
  That's like what the fuck is this guy doing?
• 3:39:16
  It's got too much time on his hands.
• 3:39:17
  Exactly, right?
• 3:39:18
  But it's like, if you're physically impressive
• 3:39:21
  and you walk into a room, you already have a leg up.
• 3:39:24
  Doesn't matter what you're doing, who you are,
• 3:39:26
  you have a leg up.
• 3:39:27
  It's, it's, if people are upset with that.
• 3:39:30
  I mean, it's, it's truth.
• 3:39:32
  It's, it's a slew of life.
• 3:39:34
  Truth is only, as I was,
• 3:39:36
  and I learned this from one of my spiritual mentors,
• 3:39:37
  the truth is only for the most sincere people.
• 3:39:39
  You know my biggest life hack that I learned
• 3:39:41
  when I was first of all, yeah,
• 3:39:42
  I mean, I played a lot of sports
• 3:39:44
  and then I got into bodybuilding.
• 3:39:45
  But the biggest life hack is if you don't want to worry
• 3:39:47
  about what you're wearing, just being in shape
• 3:39:50
  and everything looks good, so simple.
• 3:39:53
  You could put on a t-shirt, it's 100% true again.
• 3:39:55
  You put on a t-shirt, you look like you're like a million dollar.
• 3:39:59
  Not a thing you let all of us in a vat guy wearing a Gucci shirt.
• 3:40:02
  Oh my God.
• 3:40:03
  Okay, sometimes you see that in Miami, too.
• 3:40:06
  Oh, dude, it's so Yashmito, yeah.
• 3:40:09
  100% 100%.
• 3:40:10
  So true, dude.
• 3:40:11
  You always see guys are in tail shape
• 3:40:13
  and they're wearing $2,000 for the clothing.
• 3:40:15
  And it's like two sizes, too small.
• 3:40:17
  It's like bro.
• 3:40:18
  But you can't just, it's like a,
• 3:40:19
  he's shoot a toothpaste.
• 3:40:21
  I said, 190 pounds of shit and 125 pound bomb.
• 3:40:25
  Oh my God.
• 3:40:26
  What would be some last,
• 3:40:28
  oh, we didn't speak of spirituality.
• 3:40:31
  Where do you think, and so I think that if you talk about
• 3:40:35
  improvement, like improvement across all areas of your life,
• 3:40:39
  I think that physical, mental, relationship,
• 3:40:43
  I think spirituality is something that a lot of people lost.
• 3:40:46
  I think society is very secular.
• 3:40:48
  And spirituality doesn't mean God or religion to find that way.
• 3:40:52
  I think it just means that believing in something
• 3:40:54
  bigger than higher than yourself and removing ego
• 3:40:57
  out of the equation and everything that you do.
• 3:41:00
  And I think that if you do not have something
• 3:41:04
  that you subscribe to that helps you remove your ego
• 3:41:07
  out of your decisions,
• 3:41:08
  you become slave to some other version of God
• 3:41:10
  or something like that.
• 3:41:11
  And it controls you as opposed to you influencing it.
• 3:41:16
  And I think that that's a very toxic way to live life.
• 3:41:18
  And I think that's why people are so depressed
• 3:41:20
  and unhappy because they don't have anything
• 3:41:21
  bigger than themselves to live for.
• 3:41:23
  Agree 100% and by the way,
• 3:41:24
  to add to that, well said, for finally said,
• 3:41:27
  religion is not spirituality.
• 3:41:30
  And people have to understand that, right?
• 3:41:33
  Religion for the most part in a lot of people's lives,
• 3:41:36
  not that it's bad, but it's, it's cultistic.
• 3:41:38
  And spirituality is literally doing what you just said.
• 3:41:42
  And again, set it another way.
• 3:41:43
  It's living in service.
• 3:41:45
  And when you live in service, you're automatically grateful.
• 3:41:49
  You're automatically looking to help people
• 3:41:52
  without an attachment to an outcome that comes after it.
• 3:41:55
  Again, it's the opposite of tithing.
• 3:41:57
  People tithe because they expect to get more from tithing,
• 3:42:02
  right? They're told that it leads to a transaction.
• 3:42:04
  It's a fishing war.
• 3:42:05
  Yeah, exactly, yeah.
• 3:42:07
  So it's like, the reality is it's like,
• 3:42:09
  if you donate and you give unconditionally,
• 3:42:14
  you don't do it with an expectation
• 3:42:16
  that something is coming in return, right?
• 3:42:18
  And you just do it because your heart,
• 3:42:20
  moralistically, virtualistically,
• 3:42:22
  integrally wants to do it.
• 3:42:24
  And that's when you're living in service to others.
• 3:42:27
  And look, dude, we're service to others, excuse me.
• 3:42:30
  We're service to sell beings by our nature
• 3:42:32
  because we're in a physical body.
• 3:42:33
  We have to eat, shit, piss, fuck, breathe.
• 3:42:36
  So we have to be service to self in some capacities.
• 3:42:38
  If we were energetic, which is our true base spiritual essence,
• 3:42:42
  then we would be observers.
• 3:42:44
  We don't have to do anything.
• 3:42:45
  We don't have to fuck.
• 3:42:45
  We don't have to eat.
• 3:42:46
  We don't have to shit.
• 3:42:47
  We can just sit there and observe as an energetic presence.
• 3:42:49
  And that's when you're purely service to others.
• 3:42:51
  But when you're now in a physical body,
• 3:42:53
  there is parts of any service to self.
• 3:42:55
  However, Scott, we can choose to be service to others.
• 3:42:58
  And that's how we live our life.
• 3:43:00
  That's that's through a good 100%.
• 3:43:02
  Do we give unconditionally?
• 3:43:05
  When you see a person in society who is broken
• 3:43:08
  and is asking for money, do you give them money
• 3:43:11
  without judging them because you want to do it?
• 3:43:13
  Or are you one of those people that says,
• 3:43:15
  oh, if I give this person money,
• 3:43:16
  they may go get high off or go get drugs.
• 3:43:17
  Or even worse, you only give if it's filmed
• 3:43:20
  and put on social media.
• 3:43:21
  Don't even get me going.
• 3:43:22
  But like, you have to live your life coming from a place,
• 3:43:26
  again, I said this to you before,
• 3:43:29
  you really truly have to know and mean and feel gratitude.
• 3:43:32
  And when you do that, then you automatically, again,
• 3:43:35
  the law of attraction, your vibe of attraction tribe,
• 3:43:38
  you automatically attract other high vibrational souls
• 3:43:40
  and beings into your life.
• 3:43:42
  And you will live a life of abundance and prosperity
• 3:43:45
  because those are the only people
• 3:43:46
  that are in your energy field.
• 3:43:47
  You cannot attract lower vibration people
• 3:43:50
  when you are living in gratitude.
• 3:43:52
  And again, I'll say this again, do you always believe this?
• 3:43:55
  No.
• 3:43:56
  I lived till I was 44 as an egoic asshole.
• 3:43:58
  I literally, people called me fuck you painting.
• 3:44:01
  That was my nickname, dude.
• 3:44:02
  Fuck you pay me because I was so good at selling,
• 3:44:06
  at closing, at contracting,
• 3:44:09
  to all the things that I did,
• 3:44:10
  but I was living in the ego mind, dude.
• 3:44:12
  That's all ego mind.
• 3:44:13
  And again, every experience that happens to us
• 3:44:16
  got in our life, we have an opportunity
• 3:44:18
  to learn and grow from it.
• 3:44:20
  Most people, unfortunately, they shut down
• 3:44:23
  when a quote unquote bad experience,
• 3:44:24
  which is only a label, right?
• 3:44:25
  Because as you know, every opportunity,
• 3:44:27
  all of your growth, but if you label something negative
• 3:44:29
  or bad, and then you attach to the feeling
• 3:44:32
  of that bad or negative feeling,
• 3:44:33
  and then you lived your life with that.
• 3:44:35
  And you know, the best way I think of that
• 3:44:36
  is like a divorce that's bad.
• 3:44:38
  A job loss or a company lost, it's bad.
• 3:44:41
  And now all of a sudden you're attached to the feeling
• 3:44:43
  that, you know, in that feeling was only
• 3:44:45
  a transient, fleeting feeling anyway,
• 3:44:47
  but you attach to that,
• 3:44:49
  and that now stifles you in your life's growth and development
• 3:44:52
  versus, oh, I want less of this
• 3:44:54
  and more of the things that make me feel better.
• 3:44:57
  And you start living your life like that,
• 3:44:59
  but you really can't live your life like that
• 3:45:00
  until you actually get to a place of gratitude.
• 3:45:02
  And again, a place of gratitude is cliche as it is,
• 3:45:05
  is holding doors for people, bro.
• 3:45:07
  It's looking at people directly in the eyes and smiling.
• 3:45:10
  It's walking up like you and I walk up to each other,
• 3:45:13
  we don't know each other and we hug each other
• 3:45:15
  and we're like, dude, we're gonna make this happen.
• 3:45:16
  It's having that energy where it's like, you know what?
• 3:45:20
  Everybody is an ally, but I have to treat them like an ally.
• 3:45:23
  I can't close my mind or close my eyes
• 3:45:26
  and say, look at this fuck, you know,
• 3:45:27
  fuck this guy or fuck this person or whatever.
• 3:45:30
  And dude, I did that for 44 years in my life.
• 3:45:32
  So it's only been in the last 10 years
• 3:45:34
  that I have truly developed an attitude of gratitude
• 3:45:36
  and lived my life, then officially,
• 3:45:38
  and what I say beneficially, like dude,
• 3:45:40
  I hold doors for everyone.
• 3:45:42
  Last night after the, which I'm gonna call it,
• 3:45:44
  the steakhouse, you know, there was a woman
• 3:45:46
  running across the street on the wall,
• 3:45:50
  green drive across the street.
• 3:45:50
  Yeah, I know I'm glad you weren't that.
• 3:45:52
  And it cost and I was like, oh my God,
• 3:45:54
  she's gonna get hit and I ran out
• 3:45:55
  and I stood in front of her and went like this
• 3:45:58
  and blocked the cars.
• 3:45:58
  You know, a bunch of people honk at me,
• 3:46:00
  but I thought she was gonna get hit
• 3:46:01
  because the cars were coming.
• 3:46:02
  You know what I mean?
• 3:46:03
  So it's like, it's doing stuff like that
• 3:46:06
  without thinking about all I could get killed.
• 3:46:09
  That is service to others.
• 3:46:10
  Or what can I get out of this?
• 3:46:12
  100% and if most people do, right?
• 3:46:14
  Like, oh, I'm gonna get interviewed.
• 3:46:15
  Somebody's gonna say I was a hero
• 3:46:16
  or some stupid shit like that, you're right.
• 3:46:18
  But like, if you really do live your life
• 3:46:20
  as a service to others being, you're not gonna think about it.
• 3:46:23
  You're gonna do that because it's the right thing to do.
• 3:46:27
  You don't want that person to get run over.
• 3:46:28
  What caused this shift?
• 3:46:30
  My wife, 100% my wife.
• 3:46:32
  She was a very, very advanced spiritual being.
• 3:46:35
  Dude, she used to tell me.
• 3:46:36
  She'd be like, because I had a great physique.
• 3:46:38
  She'd be like, you do all this stuff.
• 3:46:39
  You have this amazing body.
• 3:46:40
  What are you doing for your inner self?
• 3:46:42
  And I'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 3:46:44
  Right?
• 3:46:45
  I did no spiritual work.
• 3:46:47
  I did not, I was not doing self-reflection.
• 3:46:50
  I did not read, you know, the grades,
• 3:46:52
  the Earl Lighten Gales, the Jim Rose.
• 3:46:54
  I did not read any of that stuff.
• 3:46:55
  She taught me about that stuff and then boom, dude.
• 3:46:58
  I got into personal development.
• 3:47:00
  And then I honestly, I started meditating.
• 3:47:02
  I started sitting in stillness.
• 3:47:04
  I started going outside, sun gazing with my dog,
• 3:47:07
  being in stillness, doing things.
• 3:47:09
  You know, I have a shock-retuning app that I use
• 3:47:11
  that I put on every single morning, dude, for 12 minutes.
• 3:47:14
  I get in my red light, but I'm having an insanely focused ritual.
• 3:47:18
  And I have, everything is, you know,
• 3:47:20
  notifications in my calendar.
• 3:47:21
  And I don't live 100% attuned to that,
• 3:47:23
  but I live 90% attuned to that.
• 3:47:26
  You know what I'm saying?
• 3:47:27
  I'm like, in the time that I've been here,
• 3:47:28
  I've had probably four or five notifications show up
• 3:47:30
  to say, like, what are you thinking right now?
• 3:47:31
  What are your two?
• 3:47:32
  Really?
• 3:47:33
  So use for self-reflection.
• 3:47:34
  It's not even forced because if I'm in the middle of work,
• 3:47:37
  like I have with this amazing podcast,
• 3:47:39
  I don't look at it, right?
• 3:47:40
  But I know it's there.
• 3:47:41
  So if I'm in my office and I'm grinding
• 3:47:43
  or something during the middle of the day,
• 3:47:45
  I can see the notification pop up and I can look at it
• 3:47:47
  and then I can like put my mind into that.
• 3:47:50
  And I can leave the busyness to get into that.
• 3:47:53
  But like, that's how important the right person
• 3:47:56
  is, right partner is.
• 3:47:57
  Dude, 100%.
• 3:47:57
  Yeah, so she taught me all that stuff
• 3:47:59
  and then it became this like guiding, you know,
• 3:48:02
  epicenter of my life.
• 3:48:03
  And that's how I live my life now.
• 3:48:04
  And I'm not perfect.
• 3:48:05
  Dude, no one is in a third density body,
• 3:48:07
  but like I realize that the more I serve unattached
• 3:48:11
  without an expectation for an outcome,
• 3:48:13
  the better my life is.
• 3:48:14
  Because my life, since I met her, has been like this.
• 3:48:18
  It's just been like this.
• 3:48:19
  I mean, yeah, I've had some downturns as we all do,
• 3:48:22
  but I don't label them as negative.
• 3:48:24
  I look at them as an opportunity for growth and development.
• 3:48:26
  And now once you do that, everything, there's no.
• 3:48:29
  Once you look at it like that,
• 3:48:30
  nothing is a challenge anymore.
• 3:48:32
  Because you know that you can overcome it.
• 3:48:34
  Because again, you're not labeling it as negative.
• 3:48:36
  It's like, how do I look at this as what do I,
• 3:48:39
  how can I grow from this versus I'll fuck that.
• 3:48:42
  This is a collapse of debacle if you ask go.
• 3:48:44
  And then it actually, the effects of that negative thing,
• 3:48:48
  they start to spiral into all the other things
• 3:48:50
  that you're doing in your life
• 3:48:50
  because you can't get it out of your mind.
• 3:48:52
  So then everything else you do, you start to sabotage it
• 3:48:55
  because you have this negative mindset.
• 3:48:57
  So then it's not only the one thing,
• 3:48:59
  it's everything you do for the next like three to six months,
• 3:49:01
  you self sabotage it.
• 3:49:03
  100% it's fear.
• 3:49:04
  It all goes down to fear.
• 3:49:05
  So you have to live your life.
• 3:49:06
  I mean, dude, I think the easiest way to really break this down
• 3:49:10
  and just speak it as plainly as possible is like,
• 3:49:13
  if you realize that you are a divine essence, at basis,
• 3:49:19
  beyond your physical body, your soul is a divine eternal energy.
• 3:49:23
  What are you worried about?
• 3:49:25
  You could fucking die, you could get hit by a car,
• 3:49:27
  you know, you, you may, anything can happen to you,
• 3:49:30
  but you're not, it's not the end.
• 3:49:32
  And I don't think enough people,
• 3:49:33
  and I don't want to go into some psychospiritual woowoo babble,
• 3:49:36
  but I don't think enough people truly come from a place
• 3:49:39
  of like, hey, I'm an eternal energy being.
• 3:49:41
  I'm in a video game in the earth right now
• 3:49:43
  and I'm here to enjoy the ride, right?
• 3:49:45
  But all the ancients, all the gurus, all the sages,
• 3:49:47
  they've told us enjoy the ride.
• 3:49:49
  The Nissan commercial, they were telling us enjoy the ride,
• 3:49:52
  right?
• 3:49:53
  This is a ride in third density.
• 3:49:55
  And the ride is gonna go like this.
• 3:49:57
  And you can either embrace the ups and downs
• 3:50:00
  and the trials and the trials and the trials or you can literally
• 3:50:02
  just attach to the negativity of it
• 3:50:04
  and think you're a failure and then be in fear like you said.
• 3:50:08
  And then everything compounds, more fear,
• 3:50:11
  more apprehension, more anxiety.
• 3:50:13
  That's just how you look at life.
• 3:50:14
  It's ironic how like, when you live in fear
• 3:50:16
  and things actually don't work out
• 3:50:18
  because you're the one actually making them not work out.
• 3:50:20
  Exactly, we're spot, all we are is mind.
• 3:50:22
  We're nothing more than the thoughts we think.
• 3:50:24
  So why do you think negative?
• 3:50:25
  Why do you even think that you're not gonna have a great day
• 3:50:29
  because something happens in the morning,
• 3:50:31
  you lose a client or you lose a deal
• 3:50:33
  or something like that, like who gives a shit?
• 3:50:35
  You're just better ones behind it.
• 3:50:36
  A million, a million different deals,
• 3:50:38
  a million different opportunities.
• 3:50:39
  What's the necklace you wear?
• 3:50:41
  So this is some crystal man.
• 3:50:43
  And again, my wife is a crystal queen.
• 3:50:44
  So she got me into this.
• 3:50:45
  So this is a hercumard diamond and then mold a bite.
• 3:50:47
  This is mold a bite.
• 3:50:49
  You guys see this?
• 3:50:50
  It will get contained wild rings.
• 3:50:51
  Yeah, so this is Egyptian tectite
• 3:50:52
  and then this is Egyptian tectite too
• 3:50:54
  with an onc Egyptian energy called a mantle inside it.
• 3:51:00
  But I mean, this is amethyst.
• 3:51:02
  But my wife got me into crystals
• 3:51:03
  and just so you know, just like really quick,
• 3:51:05
  this is not woo.
• 3:51:07
  And mold a bite is the highest vibrational stone.
• 3:51:09
  So like when they measure energy in crystals,
• 3:51:11
  this is the highest amplifier.
• 3:51:13
  I don't know much about crystals.
• 3:51:14
  Yeah, it's okay.
• 3:51:14
  And then hercumard diamond amplifies mold a bite.
• 3:51:17
  So true story, these stones were called the pharaoh stones.
• 3:51:22
  So all the pharaohs in Egypt were these stones
• 3:51:24
  because they believed that these would transmute
• 3:51:27
  any kind of negative energy.
• 3:51:28
  So demonic entities, atherior experience or whatever.
• 3:51:32
  Yeah, so like, you know, in truth,
• 3:51:33
  I've been wearing these, they're also called tectites
• 3:51:37
  because they're essentially from asteroids,
• 3:51:39
  you know, landing on earth to the same thing as mold a bite.
• 3:51:42
  Ever since I started wearing these stones, bro,
• 3:51:45
  I don't ever deal with like really craziness, like in public.
• 3:51:48
  Like when I was an egoic maniac,
• 3:51:50
  I always dealt with craziness.
• 3:51:51
  I would get into fights with people.
• 3:51:53
  I would, I mean, not like knock down this fight,
• 3:51:55
  but I would get into arguments
• 3:51:56
  and this is just life is chaotic.
• 3:51:58
  Exactly.
• 3:51:59
  Yeah, like, and again, if we're talking wall of attraction,
• 3:52:02
  you attract what you vibrate.
• 3:52:05
  So when you're wearing things like these
• 3:52:06
  or super high vibrational, it's likely
• 3:52:08
  that you're only going to attract other high vibrational people.
• 3:52:11
  This is not wooed at all.
• 3:52:12
  I mean, you could look into the walls of thermodynamics
• 3:52:15
  and conservation and energy.
• 3:52:16
  And when you understand vibrational, you know, fields,
• 3:52:20
  if you're wearing high vibration jewelry
• 3:52:22
  or high vibration technology, some of its technology too,
• 3:52:25
  you're only going to attract that same type of person.
• 3:52:28
  And again, so since I started wearing these,
• 3:52:30
  and I don't wear them everywhere,
• 3:52:31
  I wear them in a podcast, I wear them on planes,
• 3:52:34
  I feel like I'm not only attracting the right people,
• 3:52:36
  but I wore it off the wrong kind of people.
• 3:52:38
  Yeah.
• 3:52:40
  So there's a lot of history in crystals, you know,
• 3:52:42
  the Atlanteans, the whole Atlantis community,
• 3:52:44
  all used Christians.
• 3:52:46
  Like, I think that just the way that you look at life
• 3:52:49
  and you look at like optimization across literally everything.
• 3:52:53
  All straddle, yeah.
• 3:52:55
  I think that's the answer.
• 3:52:56
  I mean, I don't know nothing about crystals at all.
• 3:52:59
  I mean, like these little, there's something about these.
• 3:53:02
  Those are tigers, it's tigers eye, right?
• 3:53:04
  Yeah, that's really good.
• 3:53:05
  That's very strong.
• 3:53:06
  The tiger's eye is very strong EMF protection.
• 3:53:08
  So that's actually protecting you from EMF.
• 3:53:10
  But I don't know it too well.
• 3:53:11
  I want to like some more about it.
• 3:53:12
  I mean, I'll send you stuff.
• 3:53:14
  I have like a PDF of the crystal Bible,
• 3:53:16
  and you can read it.
• 3:53:17
  Because I saw some of your past content.
• 3:53:18
  Yeah.
• 3:53:19
  I do a lot of stuff on crystals, a lot of stuff on,
• 3:53:21
  I mean, like I said, dude, like I don't,
• 3:53:24
  the Jay Campbell podcast, because I would bring you
• 3:53:25
  on my podcast, I stopped it in September of last year
• 3:53:28
  because I just kept bored of it.
• 3:53:29
  I mean, I entered the last six years,
• 3:53:31
  I got so bored of talking about health optimization,
• 3:53:34
  all I talked was like consciousness people
• 3:53:35
  of the last six years.
• 3:53:37
  And I talked to like some of the craziest woo people,
• 3:53:39
  but like some of them were like so knowledgeable
• 3:53:41
  about earth and energy and vibrational fields
• 3:53:44
  and stuff like that that my brain exploded
• 3:53:46
  and I got so into it, I honestly think.
• 3:53:48
  This is why I stopped doing just business podcasts
• 3:53:50
  because I found that all because it's about,
• 3:53:52
  it's the same shit.
• 3:53:53
  Yeah, it's fun and just the same shit.
• 3:53:55
  But that's the thing is that yeah,
• 3:53:56
  you can get the same business information,
• 3:53:58
  but people want to know how to get better
• 3:54:00
  across all parts of their life.
• 3:54:02
  They don't just want to know how to build a business
• 3:54:03
  and run Facebook ads.
• 3:54:04
  Well, honestly, I'm really grateful that you found me, you know.
• 3:54:07
  I am too.
• 3:54:08
  I mean, it's all made.
• 3:54:09
  I know we're going to be friends forever now.
• 3:54:10
  It's awesome, but the thing is,
• 3:54:12
  it's like, I'm just like you, like it's about,
• 3:54:15
  how can I take a little of something from everyone
• 3:54:18
  that fascinates me or energizes me
• 3:54:20
  and then how do I push that into universe?
• 3:54:22
  Because again, dude, it's about service
• 3:54:24
  and right now we're serving because this podcast
• 3:54:27
  is going to reach a lot of people.
• 3:54:29
  And if it affects five to 10% of the people that it reaches
• 3:54:33
  and they do something positive with the information,
• 3:54:35
  then it changes, it changes the balance.
• 3:54:37
  It's the, it's the 100th monkey, you know,
• 3:54:40
  it takes one person taking action
• 3:54:43
  that they would never have taken
• 3:54:44
  that pushes the balance to more people
• 3:54:46
  at a higher vibration of other men.
• 3:54:48
  What do you want to leave?
• 3:54:49
  Oh, so where's the people connect with you
• 3:54:51
  if they want to learn more?
• 3:54:52
  So jcable.com is in the top five
• 3:54:55
  according to SEO last month websites
• 3:54:57
  for peptide and hormone related information.
• 3:54:59
  I get like 25 to 40,000 unique visitors a month.
• 3:55:02
  It's very, very well traversed.
• 3:55:04
  Over 90 articles now on page one of Google
• 3:55:07
  for, you know, peptide related information.
• 3:55:10
  So a lot of peptide information.
• 3:55:12
  We put out least two articles a week
• 3:55:14
  and then you can follow me on social media at jcable333.
• 3:55:19
  People ask me, what does that mean?
• 3:55:20
  333 is actually a numerology of mind body spirit.
• 3:55:23
  So that's why I attached to that.
• 3:55:25
  And then I have a free URL or vanity domain
• 3:55:28
  for every podcast I do.
• 3:55:29
  It's called jcable.com forward slash three books
• 3:55:32
  and you get every single book
• 3:55:34
  that I published five have been international bestsellers.
• 3:55:36
  But there's eight and you just get the PDF
• 3:55:38
  that you can download.
• 3:55:39
  And so there's a lot of them that are really good.
• 3:55:40
  Like the last two books are major international bestsellers.
• 3:55:44
  The peptide book is called Optimize Your Help with
• 3:55:46
  Therapy, Peptides.
• 3:55:47
  That's amazing.
• 3:55:47
  And then the newest my newest book,
• 3:55:49
  and I have one coming this year,
• 3:55:50
  but my newest book is 30 days to shreds.
• 3:55:52
  And that is probably at least one of the top five
• 3:55:56
  fat loss books of all time.
• 3:55:57
  It's 490 pages.
• 3:55:58
  But we go into the deep metaphysical weeds of like,
• 3:56:01
  where is the best way to lose fat in the fastest amount
• 3:56:04
  of time in the healthiest way possible?
• 3:56:05
  And that's why it's called 30 days to shreds.
• 3:56:07
  Because we tell people you can literally lose 10% body fat
• 3:56:10
  in 30 days with zero impact on your long-term health
• 3:56:13
  other than positive things.
• 3:56:15
  So that book came out in October of 2023.
• 3:56:18
  But I have a book coming hopefully by summer
• 3:56:21
  that's going to be the first book of its time.
• 3:56:23
  It's GLP one book.
• 3:56:24
  So it's going to teach people how to use GLPs
• 3:56:27
  like in the way that you and I talked about them today,
• 3:56:28
  which people desperately need
• 3:56:30
  because they're getting bad information
• 3:56:31
  and doctors and pharma.
• 3:56:33
  So we'll put the existing books for sure in the show notes.
• 3:56:37
  And then when that new book drops,
• 3:56:38
  I'll push it out to the audience.
• 3:56:41
  Of course, okay, last question.
• 3:56:43
  Is there anything we didn't go into?
• 3:56:44
  I think we covered it too.
• 3:56:45
  We got a lot.
• 3:56:46
  We got a lot.
• 3:56:47
  We talked about a lot of stuff.
• 3:56:49
  When you do more research in the future
• 3:56:52
  or when you discover new things, you have to come back.
• 3:56:54
  Awesome.
• 3:56:55
  Yeah, no, for sure.
• 3:56:57
  And this is changing so fast.
• 3:56:59
  I think that it's important to stay up to date
• 3:57:01
  on this stuff, the future of health.
• 3:57:03
  It's quantum.
• 3:57:04
  Even people in my own communities and stuff
• 3:57:05
  are like, dude, you told us this four months ago
• 3:57:07
  and now you're saying this and I tell them,
• 3:57:08
  I'm sorry, the science changes.
• 3:57:10
  We're in a quantum reality now.
• 3:57:12
  Yeah, so follow and look at his work
• 3:57:15
  and then I'm assuming like stuff that's just coming out
• 3:57:17
  and stuff that's new, you're going to cover that
• 3:57:19
  on social, you cover that on your blogs and everything
• 3:57:22
  like that.
• 3:57:23
  So you can see it all there.
• 3:57:24
  You speak a lot too.
• 3:57:25
  So if you probably can.
• 3:57:26
  Yeah, and put it this way, man.
• 3:57:27
  We didn't say this, but bio longevity labs
• 3:57:29
  is going to be the Amazon of biohacking
• 3:57:31
  within the next 12 months.
• 3:57:32
  And I haven't told you this yet.
• 3:57:34
  And by the way, we decided this last night
• 3:57:35
  after I talked to you.
• 3:57:37
  We're literally, we decided last night
• 3:57:39
  we're starting a billion dollar longevity fund,
• 3:57:43
  which all we're going to raise for it.
• 3:57:45
  100% and it's going to be done by this summer.
• 3:57:47
  Like we have, dude, I have so many billionaires
• 3:57:49
  that are like, I want to give you money.
• 3:57:50
  I want to give you money.
• 3:57:50
  So we just finally decided like, let's just finance this.
• 3:57:53
  And in addition to that, let's finance other business,
• 3:57:56
  you know, viable businesses that are connected
• 3:57:58
  or attached to it in some way.
• 3:58:00
  But yeah, but that's for sure coming.
• 3:58:03
  And so yeah, so I mean, like again, you know,
• 3:58:04
  just to segue with RFK, he got confirmed today.
• 3:58:08
  There's no reason that people like us cannot teach.
• 3:58:12
  Like I've already said this, like I'm going to,
• 3:58:14
  in some of my how we're going to say me,
• 3:58:15
  how make earth healthy again, right?
• 3:58:18
  So that's what we're going with this.
• 3:58:19
  But like we want bio longevity labs to be the place
• 3:58:22
  for any person, researcher, clinician, layperson
• 3:58:26
  to just go and buy something to extend their life,
• 3:58:29
  whether it's a peptide, a bi-regulator, hormones,
• 3:58:31
  supplements, small molecules, anything that's out there
• 3:58:35
  that's cutting edge we're going to have.
• 3:58:37
  And ship it globally.
• 3:58:38
  So not just Canada, US, like, you know,
• 3:58:40
  the people in Australia who are destitute
• 3:58:42
  or New Zealand who can't get it in,
• 3:58:43
  we're going to figure out ways to get it in those countries.
• 3:58:46
  So everybody can access.
• 3:58:48
  Good.
• 3:58:49
  Last question.
• 3:58:52
  Learn a ton over your life, over your career,
• 3:58:54
  about health, wellness, business, spirituality,
• 3:58:56
  literally everything that we went into today.
• 3:58:58
  I love unpacking like all the different parts of a person.
• 3:59:01
  Because sometimes it's just like so like myopic
• 3:59:03
  and blinders on about the one thing they want to talk about.
• 3:59:06
  But that's not, that's not what makes a person.
• 3:59:08
  So you kind of like, you know, you, uh,
• 3:59:11
  you, you eat your own dog food, so to speak, right?
• 3:59:14
  I think that's important.
• 3:59:15
  Um, so the last question.
• 3:59:16
  Sorry, uh, out of all the lessons that you've learned
• 3:59:19
  over your whole life, uh, you have to make a decision
• 3:59:21
  to pass on one of those lessons to your kids.
• 3:59:23
  Uh, what would that lesson be?
• 3:59:24
  Why is it so important and why?
• 3:59:26
  Uh, you must live with an attitude of gratitude.
• 3:59:31
  Uh, your children, your legacy, your family,
• 3:59:35
  the people that are in your system or in your circle,
• 3:59:37
  they have to understand that you really are the living
• 3:59:40
  embodiment of a gratitude of a grateful person.
• 3:59:42
  And what I mean, grateful, you teach them to hold doors for others.
• 3:59:45
  You teach children.
• 3:59:46
  This is so important today, Scott, because it's not being taught.
• 3:59:49
  You teach children to look into the eyes of the person
• 3:59:52
  that they're speaking to or you're shaking their hands
• 3:59:54
  or their meeting and you smile and you convey that honest
• 3:59:59
  gratitude of like, I'm so happy.
• 4:00:02
  Nice to meet you.
• 4:00:03
  How can I help you?
• 4:00:04
  How can I serve you?
• 4:00:05
  What can I do just, you know, to help all my emails to every
• 4:00:08
  person who emails me now literally is like, you know,
• 4:00:11
  when they say something good or bad, I'd say, Hey, you know,
• 4:00:13
  it's awesome to meet you.
• 4:00:13
  How can I serve you right now?
• 4:00:15
  And I mean that I really honestly mean that.
• 4:00:18
  And I think we have to teach our children that like by being
• 4:00:22
  grateful in every moment, regardless of what's going on in your life,
• 4:00:26
  you will again, that vibrational frequency attracts other people like
• 4:00:30
  minded and you will literally create a life of absolute abundance and prosperity.
• 4:00:35
  And I know this because before, as I've said on this podcast,
• 4:00:38
  up until 44, I was fuck you, pay me.
• 4:00:40
  I was egoic and I lived in the ego mind.
• 4:00:43
  And once I changed that attitude, again, to my child, to my wife,
• 4:00:46
  Monica, who taught me this, she's my greatest virtual mentor.
• 4:00:49
  Everything changed for me.
• 4:00:50
  And I didn't have, bro, I used to get tickets all the time.
• 4:00:55
  I was one of those guys.
• 4:00:56
  I have not, I mean, I want to knock on what I said, but I have not got a single
• 4:00:59
  ticket since I met my wife in 11 years, right?
• 4:01:03
  Drive fast, BMW M cars.
• 4:01:06
  You know, every now and then I might drive a little aggressively,
• 4:01:08
  but I don't, I don't, I don't, I haven't gotten a single ticket.
• 4:01:11
  And I, I really feel that I'm living in a such a universal,
• 4:01:15
  abundant, prosperous state of mind that I avoid that now because I'm doing
• 4:01:20
  so much good for the universe.
• 4:01:21
  I'm serving at such a high level.
• 4:01:24
  And I think you've heard this.
• 4:01:26
  And I don't remember who it was.
• 4:01:27
  It might have been Jordan Peterson.
• 4:01:28
  I don't remember, but somebody that was a great, you know,
• 4:01:30
  a calm philosopher, a modern day philosopher who said, your ability to earn is
• 4:01:35
  relative to the amount of people you serve, right?
• 4:01:39
  So if you're going to be a billionaire or a trillionaire or a hundred
• 4:01:42
  billionaire or whatever, you cannot hold onto that unless you serve at the
• 4:01:48
  same capacity.
• 4:01:49
  So it's like I realize now that the more I serve, the more abundance will
• 4:01:53
  come into my life.
• 4:01:54
  It's literally as simple as that.
• 4:01:56
  And if you can scale service, which obviously many people have,
• 4:02:01
  and again, not do it from an egoic standpoint, but come from a place of
• 4:02:05
  non-attachment, you know, no expectation, then you'll hold onto it.
• 4:02:10
  And you will build legacy wealth and you will not just build legacy wealth
• 4:02:13
  for yourself, but you will build legacy wealth for millions of people who are
• 4:02:17
  connected to you.
• 4:02:17
  And that's the key.
• 4:02:18
  And again, you know, I hate bringing money into the equation because I do
• 4:02:22
  think that money is an issue for a lot of people in this world.
• 4:02:25
  Obviously debt slavery and debt servitude is terrible.
• 4:02:29
  You can use debt, you know, in a positive fashion versus a negative fashion.
• 4:02:32
  But at the end of the day, if we ever do get human relationships and human,
• 4:02:38
  let's just call it vibrational fields to a place where everything is level,
• 4:02:42
  people will have to come to a place where they absolutely living
• 4:02:45
  gratitude.
• 4:02:46
  They cannot be, I'm going to rip this person's head off and take a
• 4:02:49
  badge of this person.
• 4:02:50
  And I think capitalism, socialism, every, you know, economic philosophy,
• 4:02:55
  it leads to that.
• 4:02:56
  And so like we have to get to a place where like people just are in a place
• 4:03:00
  where like money isn't the, the be all end all and that service is the be all
• 4:03:04
  end all.
• 4:03:05
  And I don't know if we in this current time and age can ever get to there.
• 4:03:08
  I don't know if our economic.
• 4:03:09
  But I think it's people that do live that way.
• 4:03:12
  Change.
• 4:03:13
  They change and end up having a very good life.
• 4:03:16
  Impact.
• 4:03:17
  Yeah, it's all about impact.
• 4:03:19
  I think that it's just very low vibrational scarcity mindset to not think
• 4:03:23
  that way.
• 4:03:24
  Everybody who I know, like wasn't, I've had like hundreds and hundreds of
• 4:03:27
  people on this podcast that have built companies that you know the name of,
• 4:03:30
  like founder of Netflix, founder of Reebok,
• 4:03:32
  guys that have true bill, like billionaire billionaires and 100 millionaires.
• 4:03:36
  And it's all about impact.
• 4:03:38
  They're very, they're very much like people oriented.
• 4:03:42
  Like how do we serve as many people as possible?
• 4:03:44
  It's it.
• 4:03:45
  There's no, there's no secrets, dude.
• 4:03:46
  Like once you get to a certain level, whether you've made a billion or a hundred
• 4:03:50
  million or 10 million or whatever, you get to a place where you just
• 4:03:53
  understand that it's service.
• 4:03:55
  It's literally because dude, we're all the same.
• 4:03:58
  At base essence, we're all souls inhabiting these physical bodies in this third
• 4:04:02
  density, you know, in video game of, of life.
• 4:04:06
  And so it's like if you truly understand that that you're an eternal energy
• 4:04:09
  being and you're not going to die, your physical body will die in this current
• 4:04:12
  lifetime, but your energy will keep going.
• 4:04:14
  There's nothing to worry about.
• 4:04:16
  Enjoy the ride.
• 4:04:17
  Enjoy the experiences is everyone.
• 4:04:19
  No one's knowing that there's not everybody to win.
• 4:04:22
  There's you don't really have enemies unless you choose to label someone as your
• 4:04:25
  enemy because even if somebody that fucks with you or does something that you
• 4:04:29
  again label as negative, how do you know that they weren't having a horrible
• 4:04:33
  moment in time in their life when they did it and they didn't mean it?
• 4:04:36
  You don't.
• 4:04:36
  You absolutely don't.
• 4:04:37
  So it's like hold no grudges.
• 4:04:39
  By the way, we never even mentioned this.
• 4:04:41
  Forgive everyone.
• 4:04:44
  Forgive not for them for yourself.
• 4:04:46
  Forgiveness is what lack of forgiveness is what causes cancer because you
• 4:04:49
  think about when people don't forgive themselves, it's mostly themselves and
• 4:04:53
  not the other people.
• 4:04:54
  That becomes some sort of inflammation in the body that eventually leads to the
• 4:04:59
  cellular degradation that basically manifests as cancer.
• 4:05:03
  And so forgiveness is so important.
• 4:05:05
  So like don't have enemies, forgive anyone and everyone.
• 4:05:08
  There's no reason to have an enemy for someone.
• 4:05:10
  Just forgive them.
• 4:05:11
  Let it go.
• 4:05:11
  Stop being attached to whatever that you thought they did to you because it's a
• 4:05:14
  label.
• 4:05:16
  It's not simple man.