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  Speaker 1: you know, in the wake of Nani's victory, and really
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  Speaker 1: in the wake of also kind of the the the
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  Speaker 1: direction young Republicans are going, and just youth generally, the
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  Speaker 1: kind of angst that seems to exist among young people,
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  Speaker 1: among Generation Z as they call them. There seems to
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  Speaker 1: be a huge amount of angst within this generation. We
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  Speaker 1: constantly hear about an affordability crisis that they can't they
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  Speaker 1: can't afford at home, they cannot afford, you know, groceries
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  Speaker 1: are going up, everything costs more, and they have a
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  Speaker 1: huge amount of student debt.
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  Speaker 2: And if you know.
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  Speaker 1: If you believe the stories, they are really really struggling
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  Speaker 1: and they're convinced that they are really really struggling, and
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  Speaker 1: they really really have it hard, and every generation before.
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  Speaker 2: Them had it easier than they do.
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  Speaker 1: And they are voting publicly, they're voting to shatter the
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  Speaker 1: status quo that they feel has betrayed them. This is
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  Speaker 1: also a remember generation that were teenagers and teenagers during COVID,
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  Speaker 1: So COVID had a profound impact on their social life.
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  Speaker 1: It had a profound impact maybe on how quickly they
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  Speaker 1: kind of got rolling into life, and they were locked down,
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  Speaker 1: they were isolated.
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  Speaker 2: At least some of them some of the time.
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  Speaker 1: So there's no question this is a generation that that
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  Speaker 1: has been slapped on the side of the head by
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  Speaker 1: by COVID and and by COVID restrictions in significant ways.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I think a lot of that shapes
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  Speaker 1: their attitude towards what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about this before on you know, several times
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  Speaker 1: on the show, that the reality is that, uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they really feel like they're not doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Their statistics that haven't really found a good source of
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  Speaker 1: these statistics to this, but there you know, I've read
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  Speaker 1: some statistics say many of them graduating college and not
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  Speaker 1: finding jobs and the unemployed, so there's a huge unemployment rate,
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  Speaker 1: although you know, unemployment rate in the economy generally is
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  Speaker 1: quite low, and and they're just they just they just
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  Speaker 1: feel like the opportunities are not there, the opportunities that
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  Speaker 1: everybody else had are not there. And you know, the
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  Speaker 1: number of intriguing issues around us. One is that if
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  Speaker 1: you actually look at the data, there's no evidence of this.
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  Speaker 1: I can't really find evidence of massive unemployment or unusual
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  Speaker 1: unemployment rates among college.
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  Speaker 2: Graduates from this generation.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at income income, then this generation has
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  Speaker 1: more income than any adjusted for inflation, adjusted for cost
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  Speaker 1: of living, adjusted adjusted you know how we adjust for
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  Speaker 1: inflation and cost of living in economics. But this generation
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  Speaker 1: makes more money in income than any generation before it
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  Speaker 1: at the age that they're at, so they're in their
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  Speaker 1: twenties and in their twenties, no other generation made as
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  Speaker 1: much money as they did. And you can adjust the
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  Speaker 1: numbers and play around with it and change it, and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't change. I mean the gap that the amount
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  Speaker 1: changes a little bit as you look at it from
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  Speaker 1: different angles. But basically, as generation, when they have a job,
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  Speaker 1: they make good income. You know, all of that is
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  Speaker 1: adjusted for inflation, So the fact that everything is more
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  Speaker 1: expensive is true. But even when taking account everything is
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  Speaker 1: more expensive, they still make more money than any.
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  Speaker 2: Other generation in their age.
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  Speaker 1: So partially it could be that they grew up with
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  Speaker 1: expectations now Housing is an issue. Housing is an issue,
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  Speaker 1: and over the last four years, the average age of
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  Speaker 1: first time homeowner has gone up significantly from about thirty
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  Speaker 1: two thirty three to thirty seven. And part of that
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  Speaker 1: is a spike in home prices in some parts of
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  Speaker 1: the country, and of course not everywhere. In place like Austin, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: prices have come down over the last.
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  Speaker 2: Year or more.
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  Speaker 1: But more than that, it really reflects the fact that
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  Speaker 1: interst rates are high again high god interstates today. Mortgage
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  Speaker 1: interestations today are lower than when I bought my first
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  Speaker 1: house in nineteen ninety five I paid, I mean, my
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  Speaker 1: mortgage was much interest rates was much higher than here
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  Speaker 1: than what it is right now. So interestates are high
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  Speaker 1: relative to what they were a few years ago, relative
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  Speaker 1: to what they were in the twenteen's, relative to what
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  Speaker 1: they remember, and people are convinced for some reason that
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  Speaker 1: interest rates are going to come down in the future.
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  Speaker 1: And as a consequence, I think people are waiting to
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  Speaker 1: buy a house. They don't want to lock themselves in
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  Speaker 1: and for now into a high interest rates, high monthly payments.
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  Speaker 1: When interstrates might come down. Everybody says they're gonna come down.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump promised that they would come down. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a sentition why they're sitting and waiting for those interest
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  Speaker 1: rates to come down.
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  Speaker 2: So the fact that home ownership.
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  Speaker 1: Age average age is spiked up over the last four years,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see if this is a blimp or
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  Speaker 1: if this is a permanent change. It also has to
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  Speaker 1: do with getting married later and a lot of other things.
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  Speaker 2: But it's it really, is it really?
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  Speaker 1: The phenomena of what they're saying does not appear in
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  Speaker 1: the day now Now people say, well, but they have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of student debt, and they do.
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  Speaker 2: They have a lot of student debt.
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  Speaker 1: They've but they've got good jobs and if you look
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  Speaker 1: at their net worth, it's not worse than the net
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  Speaker 1: worth of past generations. Now, I think student debt is
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  Speaker 1: probably the biggest issue here, more than housing, even though
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  Speaker 1: what almost everybody mentions is housing. What everybody names is
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  Speaker 1: housing because housing is such a big deal and people
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  Speaker 1: think it's so seriously and it's so important for people.
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  Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, in
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  Speaker 1: terms of actual cash flow and in terms of how
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  Speaker 1: wealthy people feel, I think student debt is a huge
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  Speaker 1: burden on gen Z and it makes them feel a
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  Speaker 1: lot poorer than they really are. They can handle the
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  Speaker 1: debt because they're making good money.
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  Speaker 2: You know. They also in terms of.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of wealth, they might feel like they're missing
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  Speaker 1: out because the last few years have been so good
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  Speaker 1: in the stock market, and people in the stock market
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  Speaker 1: have done so well.
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  Speaker 2: It could be that a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of gen zs are looking at how much money uh, millennials,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly Baby boomers are made on the stock market,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going, well, we missed that opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't get that opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: We're not in a position to save a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money right now at the beginning of life.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody is, and they resent that.
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  Speaker 1: But there's one thing that's very very clear, and that
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  Speaker 1: is there's real resentment.
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  Speaker 2: There's real angst, there is there is a.
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  Speaker 1: Real challenge out there among young people. They really really
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  Speaker 1: do think that.
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  Speaker 2: They're screwed now.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is also the first generation that's really
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  Speaker 1: been brought up on climate change is going to kill us.
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  Speaker 1: All the world's going to end. America's a horrible place.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there's a certain level of pessimism that.
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  Speaker 2: Is built into this, right, It's built into it.
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  Speaker 1: Because of the way they've been raised, because of expectations
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  Speaker 1: created about things are terrible, things are horrible. There's a
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  Speaker 1: real pessimism and it so I you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: w W when when they get into the workforce they see.
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  Speaker 2: Baby doing bo was doing really really well, which they are.
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  Speaker 1: A A and for some reason there's resentment even though
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  Speaker 1: again baby boomers when they were their age, same age
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  Speaker 1: as gen z didn't do anywhere near as well, not
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  Speaker 1: only in terms of income, but in terms of just
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  Speaker 1: think about they lived in smaller houses. They they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have iPhones, they didn't have computers, they didn't have the internet,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Have flat screen TVs.
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  Speaker 1: They you know, they they didn't have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that we just take for granted.
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  Speaker 2: Today and and and gen zs just take for granted.
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  Speaker 1: And they see that that they see all the money
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  Speaker 1: that boomers are made in the stock market. But there
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  Speaker 1: is one other thing that really is an issue that
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's not at the surface yet, but as
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  Speaker 1: we move into the future, as the next few decades,
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  Speaker 1: is going to become more and.
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  Speaker 2: More of an issue.
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  Speaker 1: And that is maybe that the gen zs have some
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  Speaker 1: realization of the fact that they over the next twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: are going to be massively subsidizing baby boomers retirement. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we live in a very inn sense strange, strange world.
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  Speaker 1: We massively subsidize old age. We redistribute more money towards
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  Speaker 1: old age and towards poverty than towards any other thing. Indeed,
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  Speaker 1: the greatest beneficiaries in quotation marks that put beneficiaries of
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  Speaker 1: the welfare state in America at least are not the poor,
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  Speaker 1: but the old, middle class, elderly people. I Y, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so security, they get so security and now social Security
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  Speaker 1: is their own money.
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  Speaker 2: They put it in.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, but that money was spent a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, right now, when you draw social Security, you're
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  Speaker 1: drawing it from the tax money that people younger than
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  Speaker 1: you are paying in. There's just no other way around it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reality. Young people pay taxes cause they're working.
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  Speaker 1: Old people who are retired withdraw that now. It's been
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  Speaker 1: going on forever but the baby boom is such a
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  Speaker 1: huge generation. It's gonna take a lot of Gen Zas
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  Speaker 1: and millennials and whatever the next generation after Gen zs
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  Speaker 1: are it's gonna they're gonna have to work really really
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  Speaker 1: hard and be taxed really really high, and they're inheriting
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  Speaker 1: a massive debt that they're gonna have to pay in
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  Speaker 1: order to pay all the benefits. So security among them,
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  Speaker 1: the baby boomers are taking out of the system. And
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  Speaker 1: then I I you know, SoC security.
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  Speaker 2: Is not as bad as as as Medicaire because Medicare.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody paid very little into the system. Again, that money
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  Speaker 1: was already spent. And now for every dollar somebody put
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  Speaker 1: into Medicare in the film payroll taxes, they take out
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  Speaker 1: anywhere between three and four much of that in the
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  Speaker 1: final year six months of life, which is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: They spend huge amounts of money, and again.
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  Speaker 1: That money is coming directly from their grandkids and the
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  Speaker 1: great grandkids.
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  Speaker 2: It's coming directly.
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  Speaker 1: From younger generations who are still working and who are
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  Speaker 1: paying into this system huge amounts of money that is
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  Speaker 1: going to fund healthcare, socialized health care. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: no wonder the younger generation is both left and right,
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  Speaker 1: is sympathetic to the idea of socialism when they can
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  Speaker 1: see that.
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  Speaker 2: Their money is going to pay.
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  Speaker 1: For socialize, money sent for their parents, really for their grandparents,
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  Speaker 1: for their grandparents, So, you know, part of part of it,
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  Speaker 1: I think the resnment, part of the frustration, part of
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  Speaker 1: the angst that exists among young people today financially and economically.
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  Speaker 1: It's not objectively about their status today and how much
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  Speaker 1: money they make and the kind of jobs they have
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  Speaker 1: and so on.
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  Speaker 2: But I think at some level they realize.
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  Speaker 1: That they have been They're the kind of maybe the
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  Speaker 1: first generation who have inherited a massive amount of debt,
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  Speaker 1: a debt that will only grow because they will you know,
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  Speaker 1: they will continue to pay relatively high taxes. But those taxes,
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  Speaker 1: even those taxes, are not going to be enough to
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  Speaker 1: pay for all the benefits that not they but previous
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  Speaker 1: generations have promised. The baby boomers, the baby boomers baby
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  Speaker 1: promised it to themselves. I mean, the unfunded liabilities are
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  Speaker 1: the federal governor well excess of one hundred trillion, So
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  Speaker 1: maybe we have that right now in the books of
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven trillion, growing at about one point eight trillion
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  Speaker 1: a year. We've you know that one point eight trillion
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  Speaker 1: adds up to over one hundred trillion dollars of unfunded
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  Speaker 1: liabilities of Social Security, Medicare that is not coming in
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  Speaker 1: from payroll taxes. That has to be paid from regular
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  Speaker 1: taxes that young people are paying because they're the ones
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  Speaker 1: working and older people are working less. So I think
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  Speaker 1: I think young people should be worried about their future.
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  Speaker 1: I think they should be worried about how they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: pay for all this. And add to that, the economic
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  Speaker 1: uncertainty is being created by artificial intelligence, by technology more broadly,
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  Speaker 1: but artificial intelligence and robots.
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  Speaker 2: And nobody really knows now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I very optimistic, and I've talked about this,
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  Speaker 1: and I think other people are economists generally, you're pretty
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  Speaker 1: optimistic that something like al will create more jobs than
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  Speaker 1: it destroys.
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  Speaker 2: But we don't know exactly which jobs.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what the time frame is, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know how it's going to evolve, We don't know how
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna play out.
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  Speaker 2: No economist does.
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  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of young people are feeling
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  Speaker 1: the angst of that kind of uncertainty. What is their
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  Speaker 1: job going to look like in thirty years how are
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  Speaker 1: they going to make money in thirty years, And they
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  Speaker 1: better make a lot of money because they're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to pay a lot of taxes in order to fund
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  Speaker 1: all the liabilities that their grandparents are spending.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of them think that they won't.
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  Speaker 1: Get any of that, and you know, they probably are right,
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  Speaker 1: although I remember being that age and also thinking there's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be anything left in so security and
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  Speaker 1: medicare for me. Now, luckily, economic growth and massive debts
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  Speaker 1: have sustained Social Security and Medicaid, but you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where it goes. So I think there's real
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  Speaker 1: reason for young people to be worried, in particular given
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they get no leadership, they get no guidance.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine a mature politician, a real politician, who actually engaged
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  Speaker 1: with this and said, look, this is the reality, this
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  Speaker 1: is the debt, and this is what has to happen.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have to reform so security and medicare.
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  Speaker 2: We'll take care of the people that.
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  Speaker 1: Have no other option and that we promised to take
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  Speaker 1: care of, but we're going to phase this out and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to lower benefits. I mean, immediately, they should
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  Speaker 1: be increasing the tirement age. It just doesn't make any
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  Speaker 1: sense to you know, as people live longer and longer,
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  Speaker 1: to keep their retirement age at the same place and
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  Speaker 1: again force young people to subsidize old people's retirement. It's
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  Speaker 1: just insane. At the very least, raise their time and age.
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  Speaker 1: And I think they will. I don't think they have
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  Speaker 1: any choice. And ultimately these programs need to be phased out.
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  Speaker 1: Is the idea of crippling the youth with debt so
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  Speaker 1: as to keep people alive a few more years, a
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  Speaker 1: few more months, a few more days, or a few
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  Speaker 1: more hours is curtain, ridiculous and morally, I think perverse.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what happens, and this is the essence
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  Speaker 1: of a mixed economy, because what happens. We can vote
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  Speaker 1: other people's money away, we can incide how to allocate
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  Speaker 1: other people's money. And you know, there's a majority that thinks,
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  Speaker 1: so we're getting old, we want to be protected in
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  Speaker 1: old age, so we're going to vote ourselves in all
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: these benefits.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And they do.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And you know, in the economy's doing well, and there's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: plenty of young people and the baby boomers in the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: peak earning years.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Then it seems great, it seems like, wow, this is
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: what a.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Deal financially, and then you get to the point where
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: they are now all retired.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: There's still a massive voting block. So you can't take
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: it away.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: From them, because if you take it away from them,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you had a power, they'll vote against you. This is
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: why I think Donald Trump was very clear that he
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: was taking Both parties are very clear not touching SOID security,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: not touching medicate because we don't want to piss off
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: old people because they vote so and then you've got
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a block of young people who are getting screwed. But
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: young people don't vote that much. Old people vote by
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: much higher proportion than young people. They're not that engaged.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: They don't know what's going on. And by the time
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: they will be more engaged and know more about what's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: going on, they'll be middle aged. And by then they'll
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: are paid into the system and they are going to
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: expect to get medicancier security and all the goodies later.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: On as well.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So they have no incentive later on to voted out
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: because they paid into the system now, so they expect
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to get it. And you can see how, you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: once you make this democratic you know, who gets what
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: gets determined by who can muster the biggest majority, who
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: can play to the to the parts of more people,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to the pull the heart strings, who can appeal to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: altruism more effectively more than anything else.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: This I think is is is a real situation and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: a real manifestation about of the mixed economy and a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: m real manifestation of the welfare state. And I I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I think I think young people are legitimately struggling with.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: This I y. You know, they they I it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Our economy is more regulated than it was twenty thirty
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: years ago. The the taxes maybe are not as h
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: not as high, but they're going to get higher. There's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: no question about that, uh, because that the debt has
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to be paid off. And if if they don't get higher,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: then we get inflation either way. Either way, they're screwed.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And they again they know it at some level, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: there's not enough of a voting block. There's not enough
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: people who will vote to make any changes. So change
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: is basically impossible. Change is basically impossible.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: To make change, to make real change, you need a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: real philosophical ideological evolution. You need to really change people's minds.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: But how do you do that when you've got a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: population three hundred and fifty million people Most of 'em
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: are not engaged and certainly not engage at the level
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of ideas, and they have no motivation and no st
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: have to change. So lone dissenter says so much for
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: your on trying to keep it lighted today. So we're
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: kind of stuck in the spiral. It might have to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: collapse before it gets better. It might, I mean, you
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: just might have to go through a period of really
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: bad inflation or real bad like a great depression type thing,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: where you need a kind of melid to come forward
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and and really revamp everything, and where if you will,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: people willing to be radical because they don't see an
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: out with the status quo. And I think that some
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of these young people who are gravitating towards socialism on
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the left and fascism on the right, and we'll get
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to the fascism on the right in a minute. Some
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of these people, if this is exactly what's happening, they
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: view the world as you know, they view the pass
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: generations and what they've been left with as a massive betrayal.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They think the system as it exist today is completely corrupt,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and in many respects their right. They think that the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: economic game is rigged against them, and in many respects
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: they're right, and they want to blow it all up,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and they want to blow it all up in the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: form of socialism, or they want to blow it up
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: all up in the form of fascism. But that explains why.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And many of them are nihilists. We'll talk about that
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in a few minutes. I mean many, many, many of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: them are just nihilistic, and that's ultimately what motivates them
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: or what drives them. So if we look at the election,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: like in New York and.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Other places, it's driven by a real phenomenon.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: And I don't think it's driven by im you know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: a commitment of massive numbers of people to socialism. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: think it's driven by people giving up on the status quo,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: giving up on this version of the mixed economy, giving
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: up on what's happening right now. And it's going to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see where it goes from here. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: really don't know. I don't know how you navigate away
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: from where it is right now. So I mean they're creating,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they're creating disasters for themselves and for everybody else by
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: moving towards socialism and fascism.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: This is not solving anything.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: It's creating a lot of problems. Exactly how that plays out,
• 27:02
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at some point, I'm sure we'll come back
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to all the graphs about how.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Gen Z kind of based on.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The numbers just appeal numbers, is doing quite well, but
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: is obviously struggling in other in other areas, and obviously
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: frustrated and angry, and and and you know, is interested
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: in in going in a completely different way, completely different direction, right, oh.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I One of the things to note about.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: This is that the other thing I must be frustrating
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: for gen zs and and maybe again the attraction of
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Mamdani in New York is the fact that everybody around them,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: who is in a position of political power in particular,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: is getting old. I mean, Trump is seventy nine, seventy nine.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Biden was eighty eighty one, eighty two, and you could
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: tell how old he was. Trump is old, and you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: can tell that he's old. Como is not a spring chicken.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: If you look at Congress, the number of Congressmen who
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: are over the age of who are you know, over
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the age of sixty five is a record highs has
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: never been anywhere close to this. I mean, if you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: look at the Mitch McConnell, if you you know, you
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: just look across the boat, what's her name? Just retired Pelosi,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: who's eighty something is old. I mean, these people they
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: get into Congress and they stay there and they never leave,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and they they don't have the I don't know, the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: pride to leave at a peak, to leave when they're
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: still strong, leave when their mind is still working. They
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: all deterior read pathetically and have to be in a sense,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, wheeled out. And it's it really is. You
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: get the sense we're being This country is being run
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: by a geriatric worde of a hospital. And if you
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: look at Congress, it is I mean, the age, the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: average age of Congress, the number of Congressmen who are
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: over the age of sixty five is astounding.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: It is just astounding.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And again I think that alienates young people to think
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that these these old guys and gals I make decisions
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: for them, and these old guys and girls are making
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: decisions that seem to help other old people and not
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: help young people. And I think that's overwhelmingly true.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: All right, So.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: We've had a few weeks now I think of of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: real real angst, real challenges, real struggle fighting on.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: The American right. You know, its started.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: The aftermath of Charlie Cooke's murder, with disagreements on how
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to respond it then we saw the leaked text messages
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: from various young Republicans using anti Semitic, racist, anti women,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: pro rape, just ugly language in the text messages, and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: we talked about that, and of course, you know, Nick
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Foyenttis has been in the background constantly. Some would argue
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that Charlie Cooke was kind of a bulwark against Frantis
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that kept fist marginalized.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, particularly given the direction
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Charlie Cooke was going.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: But Frantis was that that the Fringes builduilding an audience,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: building a huge, massive audience, and having massive influence on
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: young people. Tucker Causon has been drifting on the right
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to wacky to craziness, and we saw that happening over time.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And then of course we got the Tucker Cawson interviewing
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Nick Fouentis, which kind of.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Blew up the right.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, the disagreements among people on the right about this,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: about what was going on about different factions of the right,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I mean was amazing, I mean, the extent of it
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and how seriously it was taken. And then of course
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Heritage came out and supporting Tucker. And then how to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: attract it and all of that, and again people everywhere
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: taking sides, and Ben Shapiro coming out against all of them,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: but Ben Shapiro being marginalized, and of course in the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: background of.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: All of this, in the background of all.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: This, there was a real, if you will, philosophical maybe
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: philosophicals to giving them too much credit, but a real
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: ideological struggle going on on the right. They are they
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: kind of traditional historical his his, you know, historical conservatives.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: They're Buckley Conservatives, if you will, the conservatives of the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Reagan Conservatives.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: There's that, if.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: You will, wing of the Republican Party, many of whom
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: feel alienated from the Republican Party because of Trump and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: who rejected Trump, and many of whom you know, hate
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Maga and and they're kind of but they have become
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a marginal force. They are. They're not many of them.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: They don't have any real institutional backing. Maybe the American
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Enterprise Institute. I don't know enough, but certainly people at
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the American Enterprise Institute are part of this. And then
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: there's the Dispatch, and then there's a few other places
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: where they are, but they're clearly on the outside looking
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: in to what is really going on within the Republican Party,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: within the Republican movement, there are these various intellectual, ideological,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: emotional kind of trends movements happening. You've got Mega, which
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: is not particularly intellectual. It is a combination of conspiracy theories,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a combination of adoration of individual Donald Trump and those
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: intersects sometimes and there's sometimes opposition, so they.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Sometimes Trump shapes them.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they shape Mega or Mega shapes Trump, but generally
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Trump Mega that is kind of one side, not very ideological,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: willing to go any direction.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Trump wants to go. Motivated more than anything.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: As we've talked about many, many times, by anger, frustration.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Now these in megas, at least historically more old people frustration, anger, resentment,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and a lot of xenophobian racism. But you know, they
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: often keep the xenophobian racism under control. And what you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: they they don't actually use necessarily xenophobic of racist language.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: They blame the immigrants, and they always blame illegal immigrants,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: even though they hit all immigrants, it's illegal immigrants and
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: and and they always culched in ways that gives them
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: an escape valve from.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: The accusation of racism.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Although their attacks on Indians in particular have been pretty brutal,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: pretty ugly, and pretty clearly racist without you know, and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: they've not hidden that. But it's not intellectual, it's anti intellectual.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: It's a negation of any ideas. It's basically driven by
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the emotion of fear hate, you know, it's driving them.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And it's a very very tribal, very tribal movement on
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the intellectual side. The well, okay, so that's MEGA, and
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: then you've got what's called Goroiper's right, this is the
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Nick Foytist people.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And these are people.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Who are, if you will, meg on steroids again, anti intellectual,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: no ideas, really no ideas. This movement is purely nihilistic.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: MAGA is borderline nihilistic. Groupers are completely nihilistic. They want
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to see the world burn. They're very similar to antif
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: on the left. They're very similar to the far left.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: They want to see the world burn, they want to destroy.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: They very much unequippedly resent boomers and millennials and previous
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: generations and they hate them, and they resenttal authority and
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: they resent expertise. How big the movement is hard to
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: a UNIQ for interests has a million followers, but it's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: hard to tell how many people. But it's young people.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Whether it survives past their mid twenties, I don't know
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: if there are any people older than that, but it
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: seems that there are.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Well, actually they are, we'll talk about that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: But this is an explicitly racist, explicitly sexist, explicitly antisemitic,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you know, explicitly hateful movement, and you know, it is growing.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: It has energy, it's exciting, and it has a clear
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: leader nique for interest, who drives them, who motivates them,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: incentivizes them, and even a lot of them will not
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: agree with.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Everything he says. They love him.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: He's funny, at least they think he's funny. He you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: he drives them through whole through kind of a thick, cynical,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: sarcastic humor. I mean, he's the ultimate cynic and it
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: plays directly to their fears and to their hate.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Fear and hate and anger. Those are the three emotions
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: that drive all of this. Whops, what has happened about? Connected? Okay,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: let me know.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: If there's any disconnects. Looks like the chat came back on.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, And of course you know they
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: take what Maga says about immigrants, and they're not chy
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: about insulting them. They're not chy about talking about they
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: color skin. They're not chy about being out and out
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: unequivocal explicit racists. And then there are people within the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Republican movement who are trying to be more intellectual about
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: all of this. They agree with Maga and Fuentes in
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a sense that the current regime, the current way of
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: which things are running in in America, is unsustainable, that
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the left is completely out of control. The left controls
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the institutions, it's dictated the institutions, and something needs to change,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and something needs.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: To be done. That is dramatic.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: These people, like Mega and Ferantis. I should note both
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Megan and Frantis consider themselves very much Christian right. Christianity
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: is the only ideology ideology that you can identify, because
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: otherwise they're anti intellectual, so they associate themselves with Christianity.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: These more intellectuals are very much committed.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: To a Christianity as theology as ideas as a driving
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: force for their ideology. These are the new American conservative
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: intellectuals who are fed up with the modern state, the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: fed up with the modern world, I think it's corrupt.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: They think it's disgusting.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: They hate the sexual revolution, they hate modernity, they hate technology,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and you know, they hate change. This is what called
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the divine right of stagnation. They want they want things
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the way they used to be. But they're intellectual about it,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: if you can call it intellectual. These are people who
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: sit at heritage and sit it. There's other organization that
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about in a minute called the ISI, that
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Intercollegiate Studies Institute. They're the people who lead the integralist movement,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the Christian integralist movement, which is a Catholic movement that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: believes in believes there should be no suparation of church
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and state and that the state should basically impose morality
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: in all of us.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: One second, one second, guess.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thank you, thank you. Alright. I thought I
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: thought they were coming to complain about the noise.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Instead they brought me chocolates, uh, which is nice to tell,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: uh recognizing my status.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: This brought me chocolates anyway. So these are integraligs. We've
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: talked about integralists.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: There's Patrick Danin and and uh p uh the mule,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: the common Good Conservatives. These are people who wanna turn
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: upside down the the the founding of America and turn
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: it into a a Christian uh, collectivist, a common good
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: enterprise UH. And the thing they hate the most, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: this is this is important. The thing they hate the most,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the thing they despise the most.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Is individualism.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: They reject individualism through and through they view individualism they
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: associated with the left, associate with the subjectivism relativism, and
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: it's the one thing they despise.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Anyway. They are kind of in the background, and they are.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: The intellectuals trying to build an intellectual framework for whatever's
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: coming next.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: And they call themselves it's.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Them the Christian Conservatives and the National Conservatives tend to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: be the more intellectuals, and they call themselves the post liberals.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: They consider the existing order a liberal order, liberal in
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the sense of liberty, liberal in a sense of individualism,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: liberal in the sense of classical liberal, and.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: They're the post liberal order. They love Putin.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: They particularly love Aubon in Hungary because he hasn't started
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a war, but they admire Putin and they admire Uban.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: These are leaders who declare themselves Christian leaders. These are
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: leaders who are strong. These are leaders who don't let
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: things like the legislature or the courts stop them. They
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: reshape the courts, they reshaped the legislature. They these are
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: leaders who have crushed independent media and made the media
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: subservient to their agenda. Uh So they love That's the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: kind of leaders they want. That's the kind of leaders
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: they would love Trump to be. They are huge supporters
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: of Trump because he gets them close to that. But
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: but they would like JD events, JD events as they
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: candidate because he is he is uh and and has
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: been Fiver has been, you know for the last year
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: or two, because he is both smart, intellectual who believes
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: in this ideas and uh and and and it's kind
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: like them. He's much more intellectual. Trump is nothing. Trump
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: is doesn't believe in anything j Evans believes, and they
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: support him. So that's kind of the I think some
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of the map, I mean, there's a lot more we
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: can say about this, but to some of the map
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: in the background.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Anyway, there's a crisis now around.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Within conservative the conservative entities about two things. One is
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the goypers and Maga kind of taking over and young
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: people being attracted to anti Semitism, and what do you
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: do about that, and of course Corculson being a central
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: figure within the conservative movement, and how do we deal
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: with the Kaculson given that he is both an anti
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Semite and giving platforming these really really horrible people. And
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: then but there's also a child a problem of the institutions,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the think tanks being taken over by these post liberals.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's clear that heritage is already being taken
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: over by them, and the the the old kind of
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: conservatives or the people who still held on to kind
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: of the ideas of the founding for the of conservative
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: but individualistic of free markets. Those people are all leaving
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and don't have a home. And now it's hit this
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: other entity called the ISI, the Institute god ISI Intercollegiate
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Studies Institute. Now i SI has always been more religiously conservative, always,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: but it's an organization founded by William Buckley. Funnily enough,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I think originally it was called something like the Individualist Institute,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and Buckley changed the name because he opposed any institute
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: having individualism in the name.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: In the title, this is William F. Buckley.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: But they consider themselves old style conservatives, very religious, but
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: believe in the founding principles. Believe in the Founding Fathers,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: believe in the Constitution, the Declaration Independence, believe in free markets,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: believe in the institutions of government as they exist today.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: They're not post liberal anyway. Today a number of.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Board members of ISI resigned and issued a letter announced,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: you know, open letter.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: To the conservative movement.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: It's called It's titled and I'm going to read you
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: parts of it because I think it's indicative of this
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: ongoing battle, which I think is going to be won
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: by the post liberals. I don't think there's any question
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: about that. And then the question is, and the Republican
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Party is going to become, at least intellectually and in
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: terms of activism, much more racist, anti Semitic, nationalist, and statist.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: The one thing they're all have in common is they're
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: all statists, he says.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: This is the letter.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: The battle for the hearts and soul of the American
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: conservative movement is being fought on many fronts, with the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: latest trench warfare occurring in the boardrooms of its long
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: style and most influential foundations and think tanks. The recent
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: controversy at Heritage points to how conservatives venerable institutions have
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: been infiltrated and quietly taken over by a tight knit,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: fringe group of post liberal thinkers who believe America has
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: been off the reels since the founding. Since the founding,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: in their minds, the Declaration and Constitution must take a
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: back seat to usher in a new post democratic, post
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: capitalist economic system that advocates isolationism, an immigration ban, and
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a domestic policy that blurs distinctions between church and state.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: While often described as Maga a populist, this group is
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: more tightly aligned to the philosophy of media crank Tuckerkausen
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: than President Trump's agenda.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: This is in trying to set up to Trump.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I think, as a longtime board member and lead of ISI,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the oldest conservative campus organization and America foundered in nineteen
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: fifty three by William F. Buckley, we have fought to
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: preserve IO sized longstanding mission from falling victim to a
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: post liberal hijacking. That battle was lost at a board
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: meeting held last Friday, at the conclusion of which we
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: tended our resignation.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: He goes on. He goes on to talk about the infighting.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: We don't need to talk about that, but he writes
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I Sizelogi abandoned it's on campus philosophical programming, which equipped
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: future leaders to better uphold American ideals. Instead, it focuses
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: on ideological and political podcasts that introduced audiences to ult
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: right online personalities such as Tucker Colson and others who
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: seek to undermine the liberal ideas of.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: The American founding.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: The foundational shift in IIZE Focus was done behind the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: boards back its new signal program. The podcast Project Cosmos
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: was dropped on x formerly Twitter on August nineteenth, featuring
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: post liberal icon Patrick Deneen. We've talked about Patrick Denein
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: many times from that Catholic.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: University in the middle of the country.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: It comes to me a new reaction mayby Courtis Yovin.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Now Curtis Yovin. I haven't really done a whole show
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: on Curtis Yovin, but you know, Curtis Yovin believes America
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: should be a monarchy.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: He is is.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Is a real hater of capitalism, is a real hater
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: of America, of the American system of government. Again, he
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: believes in kings that I guess there there's a mechanism
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to get rid of them. But you know, he has
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a whole thing. He's really really popular in Silicon Valley.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: But he's clearly a post modernist. He clearly post liberal.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: He clearly hates the founding, the founding of America, the
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: individualism of America.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, and this is what, this is what.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: For example, he wrote, if Americans want to change their government,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to get over their dictator phobia. Say,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it's quite open to a dictatorship. I mean, this sky
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: is a real I mean a real piece of work.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Not And he's huge in Silicon Valley. He's very influential,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: people like Andreas and teel and and and others within
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the valley. Anyway, Curtis Yuvn is not involved. But here's
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I I a very conservative in the negative sense, a
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: very religious organization that you would think would be right
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: in line with the changes in the conservative movement. No,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: it's it's shifted. It shifted now, it's shifting to adapt
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: to the new world.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Let me read a few other things.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Yauvin thissu Is Kurtis Yovin is a self described new reactionary,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: unapologetic monarchist and the leader of the Dark Enlightenment movement
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: who advocates for rebooting and replacing liberal democracy. He writes, Yeah,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that's what I just read you. The one about the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: phobia also said, although I am not a white nationalist,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not exactly allergic to the stuff. Rather than peeling
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: away disaffected young males who flocked to noxious ideas of
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Fuentas and yavin Isis, Project Cosmos fawns over their anti
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: liberal philosophies. They appear to be successful in appealing to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yauvin Fuentes calls an echo chamber, as Project Cosmos.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Reported that the video.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: The video garnered six million views on CTS six million,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: with a skewing of more than ninety percent male. What
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: is unclear is how many women and other traditional ISI
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: students professional alumni donors are turned off by ISI's celebration
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: of the odious and Unamerican ideas espoused by Yorvin, Frantis
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and Carlson. Traditionally, iiz's mission was to teach American ideals
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to curious students and college campuses. The mission of helping
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: students search for truth is now replaced by the post
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: liberals lust for political power. In Washington, the Heritage Foundation
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: and Hillsdale College are not the only pillars of modern
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: conservative movement to subsidizetc Network Tucker Coulson's network. Caulson was
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: the headline of ISI's gala two years ago, and this
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: year one of its three seventy five thousand annual fellowships
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: went to the Tucker Calson Network. So everybody subsidizing Techer
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Caulson Tech COSTU is wreaking millions off of all these
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: conservative foundations supporting him. What happened at Heritage and II
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: in recent weeks underscores how I cadre of post Liberals
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: has worked together behind the scenes to rest control of
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: conservative institutions from actual conservatives. They have quietly filled boardrooms
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: with post liberals, integralists, and other fellow travelers who disdain
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: traditional conservative central tenants of free markets, limited government, individual liberty,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and personal responsibility. If only those were the real tenants
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: of conservatism, if only they were grounded on a proper philosophy,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't be so easily undermined by these not cases. Continue,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: these usurpers of conservatism, as Yavin puts it, find America's
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: core principles to be historically leftists and prevent the right
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: from defeating the left, both philosophically and at the ballot box.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: The leaders of the postliberal project continue to be close
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: friends with Carson Jovin and the ILK to be opened,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: to be opened to discussion with the likes of Phuenas
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and other racists and anti Semites, and to praise autocrats
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: like Hungary's Victor Auburn and Carson even law the social valuers,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the values of I.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Don't know if you saw this, Carlson.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Also even laws and social values of Venezuela's dictator, Nicholas
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Maduval which he did.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: He said, though it is not that bad. He's socially conservative.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: The echo Yovins called to overcome the fear of dictatorship
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: and relinquished respect for representative government and the checks and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: balances of the founding established that the founders established traditional conservatives,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: believe in America's founding principles, and look back at the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Reagan Revolution as a step in the right direction. Need
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to wake up and understand the battle currently underway. Heritage's
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: founder and longtime ISI chairman Edward Folner sit preciently warned
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: in the final article he penned in the National Affairs
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: before his death in this pasture life quote. An existential
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: identity crisis now grips the American right. A political movement
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: once united by commitment to limited government, moral order, and
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: robust defense of America's ideals, now appears fractured, its purpose
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: clouded by populist grievances and ideological drift. He ends with,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: we hope all conservatives will choose to fight on the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: side of William Buckley and give no corner to those
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: preaching white supremacy, anti semitism, eugenics, and bigotry.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Now what's truly astounding here is William F.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Buckley was not exactly a champion, and the conservative movement
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: has never been a true champion of limited government, founding principles, capitalism,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: free markets, and suddenly not individualism. It's just that the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: new Conservatives, these new right people, make the old conservative
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: look like free marketeers, look like founding fathers, look like
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: really good guys.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I am you.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Know I'm quoting here in and he's rallying people to
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: William F.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Buckley. But William F.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Buckley, for me, is the enemy. But these people are
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: so much worse than word narm F. Buckley, The Denians,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the Aarvins, the Calsons, the Fuentas, and I think it's
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: important for us to understand that without William F. Buckley
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: and his compromising, his sellout, and his religiosity, and his
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: inability to ground the principles of the founding on reason.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: It is William F.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Buckley there's responsible for the creation of the Avins and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the and the Denians, and the Vermules and the Foyintas
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: and the Calsons and all these all this garbage.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: It's the old Conservatives failure.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: To actually establish an American philosophy that is responsible for
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: where we are today.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was really interesting.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Another institution, conservative institution, falling, if you will, for the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: post to the post Liberals, uh and making a public statement, And.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: That was interesting.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Then today I also read also published I think it
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: was today yesterday yesterday it was published yesterday. Another article
• 57:13
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• 57:15
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• 57:44
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  Speaker 2: First hour goal. All right, So there's another essay publish today.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: An essay is by a guy named Ron Dreher, who
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I think I've talked about in the past.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Ron is rod Rod, not Ron R. D. Rod is.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: A supporter of the Integralist movement. He is a friend
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: of Benin's. He is a writer. He's an intellectual. He's
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: written a lot. He's being involved in Republican politics for many, many,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: many years, and at some point he got disgusted by
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the United States and the state of the country, and
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: he moved. He moved too hungry. Aubon is a hero
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: to him and a friend, and he gets a significant support,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I think from the Oban government. He is a fellow
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: at a think tank funded by the Hungarian government to
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: promote post liberal ideology, and so he lives in Hungary
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and travels to the United States and traveled to the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: United States last week to hang out with Aubon when
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: he was here visiting with Trump and with Rod's Rod's
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: friend and somebody he's very friendly with, which is JD.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Vance And it turns out they all hang out in
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: They hung out in JD Vance's house last week and
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Rod was there and he writes about this, and he
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: writes about talking to Jdvans about Nick.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Four interest and everything.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: And he hung out Victor Oban and they had fun
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: and they drank and they ate and time and anyway. So,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: but while he was here, he talked to a lot
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: of people in Washington. Dcs kind of get a sense
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of how bad are things, how bad is the situation
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: or what is going on? And of course he views right.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: He's an integolist. He's among the intellectuals and so he
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: thinks anti Semitism is horrible. Even though Patrick Deneen and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys right are very friendly to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: people like Tucker Carlson and very friendly to young people
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: who are very anti Semitic, they consider themselves above they're
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: better than that. So while he's a nationalist and anti
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Fundie Fathers, an anti liberal, a post liberal, and ultimately
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: kind of moving towards authoritarianism, he considers himself an intellectual
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: and Nick Foyenttis has kind of scum over there, a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: really really negative.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Bad force.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: So you want to see how bad the Nick Foyentis
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: phenomena was. And so he went around Washington talking to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: his various conservative friends, and he has friends in very
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: high places, obviously JD.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Vance being one of them.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Anyway, he he says here that you know, one DC
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: inside had told him then in his evaluation, between thirty
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: to forty percent of Zuomas of generations Z I guess
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: who work in official Republican Washington are fans of Nick Flantis.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: And he says that from all the kind of people
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: he talked to, that seems to absolutely trip that people
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: confirm that over and over again. At least thirty to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: forty percent of kind of young Republicans in Washington, d
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: C on Nick floyints fans, and then he goes on
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: to write and this is this is somewhat funny, but
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: listen to this one. He writes, quote, if you think
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: being a Christian is some kind of vaccination against anti Semitism,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I had to read that to because, as I talked
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: about my shown anti Semitism, being Christian is like, yeah,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Christianity kind of invented it and made it what it was.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: A right one second, guys, yeah, I'm coming. Thank you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: won't leave me alone at this hotel? All right? More chocolates,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: more water.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Then Christianity is at the core of what it means
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: to be anteresting me. Anyway, if you think Christians being
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Christian is some kind of eccination of anti Semitism, you're wrong,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: he says. Even young Christians, especially trad Catholics, trad Catholics,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: I learned a neck deep in anti Semitism. They even
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: use it as a litmus test of who can and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: can join their informal social groups.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: He says. Not every dec zoom con who identifies with.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Frantis agrees with everything he says or the way he
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: says it. What they like most of all is his
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: rage and his willingness to violate taboos. I asked one
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: a student Zooma, what the groupers actually wanted.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: He said, you know, what are their demands? Right?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: He said, they don't have any They just want to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: tear everything down.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: So, you know, even the more intellectual.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Parts of this this ult right fall right movement, recognize
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: that there are significant elements within the movement that are
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: just nihilistic, just nihilistic, you know, and they gave you know,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: these Zoomers are telling him how it's hard to buy
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: a house, and all the economic problems we talked about before,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: and all the economic problems that cause people to vote
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: for Mom Donnie, this is why they're going. They can't
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: buy homes, they can't afford this. They don't see a career,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: they don't see a future. And they grew up in
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: a culture in a country that lost its common culture.
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  Speaker 1: Many of these young men, he claims again, a father,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: the fatherless, and then the police the.
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  Speaker 2: Speech.
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  Speaker 1: Because they grew up at a time of woke, this
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: speech was policed and they were discriminated against for being
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: white Christian heterosexuals, and the reaction to that is f
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: that Frentis is a living, breathing illustration of you know,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: people willing to revel in transgression, to dare down the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: pillars of civilization, as he writes, just for the fun
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: of seeing those who had been gate kept away.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: You know, being being destroyed. Uh ah, a quote Samo.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: After the most insightful of these conversations, I thought that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: if you really want to know what's going on among
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the leading edge of the political activist young right, you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: would do better to read Dostoevsky's Demons, which more about
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: nihilism than any conservative magazine. And if I were writing
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: a new uh no, let's get to that. It says
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I talked to one's uh Magazuma, a policy wonk who
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: is a person of color. He has beside himself with
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: frustration over the rise of uh gropism in his circles. Right,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: this is a Maga who is upset by the gopers
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: and within the party.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Uh this is the young guy.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: These idiots don't understand that they can't win an election
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: on white only platform. The delusion of there are a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: lot of immigrants and native born members of ethnic groups
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: who are natural Republicans and whom Donald Trump won in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Take Indians for example. If you think
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: they're going to stick with a movement whose leader for
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: ENTUS announces Usha Vance as a jeet, you're crazy.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: But that's how they think, he says.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Well, they do want to burn it all down, I
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: was told, and I came away with the feeling that
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: they are only.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Tenuously dedicated to democratic politics. I would say, you.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Rod only tenuously dedicated to democratic policies.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Give me a break.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I told one very smart and decent zoomcon who despises
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: the anti Semitic turn in a circle, that I've been
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: hearing the fascism, actual ideological fascism, not the media's idea
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: of anyone to the right of Lindsay Graham, is gaining
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: traction among young white British males, he said, innocently, So
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with fascism? Heim entered, not in a challenging way,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: but in a way that conveyed the sense of we
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: have to think about this now. We talked about how,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: you know, disintegration of our culture is accelerating, disintegration from
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: dim right is accelerating, and liberal democracy seems impotent.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: To stop it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: He went on to explain that if he had to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: choose between living and the left wing authoritarianism or right
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: wing or the right wing version, he wouldn't It wouldn't
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: be much of a choice. He'd go over the right,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: you know. So let me emphasize. He says that my
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: intercolture was not cheering for fascism. As our conversation went on,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I heard real despair and well informed despair. The democracy
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: is going to hold in the West because the conditions
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: that make for a viable democracy is disappearing.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I tell you it was dark.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: But I kept hearing this over and over and over again,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and I conclude that it cannot be dismissed. The inability
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: of us older people boomers, Ex's and older millennials to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: comprehend the world through the eyes of zoomers as a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: big problem.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Another strong theme.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: While it's important to take clear stand against anti semitism
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: in the ranks, there's no way to gate keep our
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: way out of this.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: You cannot simply point.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: At the zoom and say thou shalt not and expect
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: it to work. The problems are too deep and complex,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: and anyway they have learned to have no respect for authority.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Why should they you know?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: And then he talks about the betrayal of the institutions.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: He says, I could go on, boy could I? But
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: you get the idea trust in the system is gone. Hell,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I share most of these conclusions myself. Yeah, maybe you're
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: responsible for the ideas that these kids have now taken
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: to their logical conclusion. The difference is that I'm not
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: a nihilist. I don't want to tear it all down,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: but rather form it. There are no historical examples in
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: which tearing it all down produced a better, more just
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: more functional order. The Zoomers don't seem to have any
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: knowledge of history, know do they care about it?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Let's see, He continues.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I still don't have the answer, but I at least
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: came away from Washington convinced that the ash of anti
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Semitism and the young Rye is much deeper than I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: had guessed. A couple of people, both of whom reject
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: anti Semitism, spoke plainly about how a lot of this
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: is reaction to how Jewish organizations like the ADL has
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: police speech critical of Israel and of anything to do
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: with Jews. So heavily over the decades that they have
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: caused intense resentment among gentiles zumoclons. One man told me
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: that for as long as he has been in politics,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: any criticism of Israel got you tagged as an anti Semite,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: and that was a potential career killer. So his generation
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: has come to hate that and to cease caring about
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: the opinions of Jews. And you know, he goes, he
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: goes on and on. You know, I'll just read this
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and an old defend another despise of anti Semitism said
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: that we have to find a way to talk about
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: the reality of Jewish influence on American life for good
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: and ill I took him to mean basically, this Jews
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: really up disproportionally powerful in America American life, and they're
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: not shy about using that power to advance their own
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: interests and the interest of other groups. They favor the
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: taboo against noticing that and talking about that. What that
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: means is gone with the Zuomers. If you want to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: fight anti Semitism, we have to face this seriously. Of course, again,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: notice how it's all collectivistic, It's.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: All the Jews influencing.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: The Jews have an agenda now granted, the other side
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: has their own. So, I mean, this is a long
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: ans I'm not going to read much of it. But
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: let me see. I mean, he writes, but see, the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Jews are not the real problem, right, Come on here
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: in Europe. It's not Jews that make public life in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: so many European cities unbearable. In fact, they were the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: first ones to experience a special pleasure of Islami harassment
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: and persecution, an experience.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: That is now far more general. There where the canaries
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: in the coal mine they so often are. So here's
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: his conclusions. He's got many the gouidbut thing is real.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: It's not a fringe movement in that it really has
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: infiltrated young conservative Washington network to significant degree. Irrational hatred
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: of Jews and other races, but especially Jews, is a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: central core of this.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: This is evil.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: If post liberal conservatism requires making peace with anti Semitism
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and race hatred, count me out. Now, remember he's a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: post liberal conservative. It cannot be negotiated with because it
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't have traditional demands.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: It wants to burn the whole system down. It really does.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: At the same time, the gatekeepers on the right aren't
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: going to be able to make it go away because
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: they have less power than ever. Dealing with this is
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: going to request great skill and subtlety and courage. That
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: this malign movement didn't just appear out of nowhere. They
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: are within it legitimate grievances, and as I keep saying,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: it emerged in a culture that, per Hannah Arends diagnosis,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: is prying to believe to tualitarian things.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: The left got there.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: First, which is what I said a long time ago.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: This is not the case of what about.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: For about two decades, left doing radicals have marched through
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: the institutions and imposed illiberal race based leftist policies and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: openly intended to discriminate against whites's males and everyone who dissent.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: You cannot understand the rights of God without understanding of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: this first. Conservatives like me had hoped that Trump's antiwok
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: pushback would simply restore the meritocratic status quo. It turns
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: out the zoom cons don't want that. They want revenge.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: This has the potential to destroy conservatism politically. It actually,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: in actual existing America white nationalist party that demonizes non
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: whites who would otherwise be drawn to conservative message.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Will alienate those voters.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Even if all whites voted for the White Nationalist Party,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: it still wouldn't win. And then he says it all
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: supposes the risk of wrecking the new post Maga conservatism
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: whose natural errors Jade Vans his friend. There will be
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: an old school normies, conservatives like Senator Ted Kruz. He's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: a normy who will do their best to hang fantis
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: and jewe hatred around JD.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Vance's neck.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: There are enough living boomers and normal Republicans who would
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: rather vote for sub optimal candidates like Cruz than take
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: their chances with the candidate who fail or not has
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: been tarred with the evil of antisemitism and race hated
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: vi for interest and costs.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: And they're really trying to save JD. Vans here.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Antisemitism spending like a virus among religious conservatives in the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Zoo generation. Uh. And he goes on and on and on.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: It's a long say. I encourage you to read it,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: but read it from the perspective of this guy created
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: the problem. He's not the solution. He really is the problem.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: You know, these are the people who intellectually who advocate for.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: A post liberal.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Order for getting rid of in a sense, all kind
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: of system of government in the United States, for increasing
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: executive power, so getting rid of independent media, for having
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: the courts bow to the.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Authority of the president.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: These are the people who love aubam And what's happening
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: is they're looking and they're saying, Oh, whoops, maybe we're
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: in too far. Maybe the implication of what we did,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: the young kids are not getting it or not getting
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: what we intended.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: I think the young kids are getting it exactly.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Anyway, this this is the right right now.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: This is the right right now.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: It's not a small minority within it right, It's not
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: some marginal peace Isi heritage. At the heart of the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: conservative movement, Tucker Carson is not a fringe character on.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: The Side show.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: He is at the really heart of America, of the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: American politics today. Again, this is all a consequence of
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: of of Trump, of Trump's victory. Trump has made, you know,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: these kind of people. He's made them, He's made them legit.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: He's legitimized the racist, anti Samites. He's legitimized to the nationalists,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: the Christian conservatives, the religionists, even though he's probably none
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: of those things. He has legitimized all of those is
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: and is authoritarian way about him has legitimized the post
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: liberal the whole post liberal agenda. All right, so stronetic,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: you don't keep you posted in terms of where we
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: are with all of this.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: I know I'm doing a lot of shows on the stuff.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of shows on the stuff because
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's really really important.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: It's going to shape the future.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: I think, as I've told you, I think enemies on
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: the right are ultimately more powerful than enemies on the left.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Although I spend a lot of time on the enemies
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: of the left. I'm debating a socialist on Thursday. Uh
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: And but I do think the real threat is going
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: to come from the right to America and to America
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: and what it is for the reasons that I think you.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Just heard and.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: You know this is I think this is really really scary,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: and I think this is right now dominating should dominate
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: the news. And what surprises me is how little the
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: mainstream media is focusing on this when they should be
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: focusing on the more.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: It's a great opportunity for the for the left.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Not that I'm trying to promote the left, but it's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a great opportunity for the left to show how ridiculous
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: the right is, and they seem not to really be engaging,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: partially because look to their left are the anti Semites?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: All right? Just as a funny.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Conclusion to this, I thought that it was really appropriate
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: that yesterday Tucker calls and put out a video of
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: an interview that he did with a guy named Dane
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Wiggington Wigton.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what his name is.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Who kiss basically where the guy went through for well
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: over an hour. Why uh mosquito or something?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Why chim trails?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Kim trails are real? You know, the stuff that comes
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: out of when you look up in the sky and
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: you see a jet passing and there's a trail of
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: kind of white stuff behind him right that, it turns out,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: is not what we always thought it.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Was, which is.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: You know, which is basically crystal and water vapor that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: is that is, its basically a cloud made of crystal
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: water vapor that form when the hot, humid or exhaust
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: from the jet engine mixes with the really really cold
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: air in high altitudes, you get these clouds.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: They're just clouds, that's all they are. Anyway, it turns
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: out they're not.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: It turns out that they're actually chemicals that the US
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: government or somebody, maybe it's the Jews, are sprinkling out
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: into the atmosphere to poison us, to change.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: The weather to who knows what. We don't know. We
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: don't know. But this is this is the government.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: The government, this is real, This is the governor's influence
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: is trying to try to trying to.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Force us to breathe the stuff.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're taking florid out of the water, and
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: they're introducing stuff into the.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Air that we are going to be breathing and so on.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: And this is all done with the knowledge of the
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: US government, and of course part of it is to
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: change the weather, the actual weather. Of course, Tuck also
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: says in the interview, he says that the US government
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: has confirmed the existence of camp trails.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: There's no such thing. The government has never confirmed this.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: This is all bs. It is dumbined in a conspiracy issue.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: It's so stupid, it's so ridiculous.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: It is you know, I get it that Marjorie Taylor
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Green believes in Jews with lasers and camp trails, but
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: that corek Causon, I guess nothing is beyond Techer Carson.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Now this is what he dedicates a whole show, an
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: hour of his show, a whole show.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: To this, you know.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: So do we see clouds to change the weather show.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: We've been doing it since the nineteen fifties. It's local,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: and you do it on existing clouds. You don't see,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: you don't. You don't need kimptrails for that. You see
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: them anyway.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: It's so stupid.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: There's really no reason to talk about it other than
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: to point out that this is what Taker costs and
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: chose to dedicate a whole hour, whole.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: Hour of a show. So, I don't know. I've been
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: trying to discredit Tucker Calson.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: For you know, a few years now, really making an
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: effort to show you how absolutely pathetic and what an evil, lying,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: horrible person he is, how you should not support him
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: or not watch the show. I'm obviously not have any
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: impact because his show is still big, but I keep
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: doing it because he has such influence and people still
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Now I think I'm going to stop, particularly with Tucker,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: because I think at this point, if you haven't got
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: it yet on Tarker Cosson, nothing I say is going
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: to change your mind. I am still wired about the right,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: and we will still be commenting on the right, both
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: it's intellectual brands to post liberal integralists and the National
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Conservatives and the Christian Conservatives. And the point is, like gropers,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: to the extent that they gain more power, we'll talk
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: about them. This is of course being big news. Certainly
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: since Charlie Cook got murdered. There is in a sense
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: a battle going on right now within side on the right.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: What it stands for.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Charlie Cook kind of bridged all these gaps. He had
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: a foot in all these different worlds. There's no body
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: like that in existence. Also, remember, part of this battle
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: that's going on in the right is a part of
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: the battle for the nomination in twenty twenty eight.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: It's part of the we can all rally around JD.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Vans or not. So there's a lot going on politically
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: in the background around this. But this is.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: What the right is doing to itself right now is
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: really dominating I think the news and it makes sense
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  Speaker 1: the news, but that that is your own book version
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  Speaker 1: of the news for this Tuesday, November eleventh, So thanks guys,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to just jump in today to
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  Speaker 1: let's jump in with not your average algorithm. This is
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  Speaker 1: what the young are celebrating today. I'm not worried about
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  Speaker 1: the political consequences. I'm wired about the inability to think.
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  Speaker 1: They feel something is wrong and so they'll choose anything
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  Speaker 1: to replace it.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: I think what you have today, and I've said this
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  Speaker 1: over and over again for kind of years now, what
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  Speaker 1: you've got today is a group of young people who emote.
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  Speaker 1: They've learned how to emote. They've learned the emotions are
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: what's valuable. They don't know how to think, and therefore
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: guides them as emotion. And they don't like the status quo,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: and they're willing to do what they can to just
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: reject the status quo. And they'll reject it, sometimes by
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: voting for socialist doc Mumdani, and sometimes by voting for
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: you know, Trump, or something much worse than Trump, which
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: is to come in the future, or just watching and
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  Speaker 1: celebrating and laughing and having a good time with with.
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  Speaker 2: Nick Foyantis, which.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody more ugly right now, right Mark,
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  Speaker 1: do you I think the show focuses too much on
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: the extreme irrationality of people like say Tucker Calson. I
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: thgree it's important to understand the culture, but only in
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: order to advance a vision of the good if we're
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  Speaker 1: interested in reaching the best people, and everyone with a
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  Speaker 1: semblance of aspect for reason already knows that cas in
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  Speaker 1: Canada zone are well, what do we gain from spending
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  Speaker 1: so much time on them? If Gault said never think
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: of pain or danger enemies a moment longer than is
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: necessary to fight them, are you really following that principle
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: and not unintentionally inflating the importance of evil?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: So I don't know who is we right? So this
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: show does what this show does.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: It's a show that comments on the state of politics
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: and the state of the culture.
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  Speaker 2: I've promised to do a new show to tell you
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  Speaker 2: about what.
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  Speaker 1: Is happening in the news and the culture, and like
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: it or not, Taker Calson and Canada, so at least
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: on the right define much of what is happening in
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the culture and what is happening in our world out there.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of that, I find it interesting that there
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: are lots of shows on the right in particularly that
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: spend lots on lots of time digging out every little
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: detail of everything wrong with the left and every little
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: cultural phenomena that happens on the left.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't do quite as much of that because
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  Speaker 2: I think it's being.
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  Speaker 1: Done by and I think the people who do it,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: you know, pretty good at it. There are plenty of
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: people who are constantly hopping and constantly going.
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  Speaker 2: After the left, and I think it's important to do that.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I focus more on the right because I think it's
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: more interesting, and I think that the bigg a danger
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: and I think that nobody really does it. I mean,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: the left does it to the right, but the left
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  Speaker 1: is so incompetent and the left is so irrational that
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: they don't do a good job of it. So my
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: show is dedicated to exposing the rationality of the right
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: and also the state of the culture. Right, what is
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: going on in the culture all in the context of
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: and I try to do this, what is right that
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: is capitalism, freedom, liberty, the funding principles of this country,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: egoism and individualism. And you know, it's a new show,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: and this is the news other you know, the Rain
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: Institute spends a lot more time, almost all this time
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: on educational programs to teach the positives, to teach, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the positive philosophy of how to live a life and
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  Speaker 1: what a proper society looks like and so on. So
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  Speaker 1: I think we all have our in a division related
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  Speaker 1: society own focus, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: One of the reasons I focus on all the negatives
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: here is so you don't have to so you can
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: live your life. I tell you, don't listen to the news,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: don't get you use some other places, because just come
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: to the come to the show, and hopefully you get
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: it in doses that are you know, going to do
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: less time consuming and and and not going to do
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: as much damage as if you had to follow the
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: news and newspapers and and watch the news.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Hopefully that works for you, guys, I don't know.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that you guys have to tell me,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: and that that gives you the time to study positive
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: ideas and and and and and and.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: Work towards those.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I try to include positive topics and try to talk
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: about positive things, and try to talk about the positive philosophy.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: The wall guiding interspersed in this.
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  Speaker 1: If you watched my show, I did on Saturday, where
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  Speaker 1: I talked about uh for intess and all this stuff,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: and I talked about what should be done. There was
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of positive in there. But yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I get it, and and I get the fact that
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: some people might find this too much and too much
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  Speaker 1: focus on this. I don't blame you. And right now
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: it's in the news. I don't expect to be talking
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: much about it other than if it comes back. I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: think what's happening right now is his stolic. Well, let
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: me say this again, what's happening right now is the stoic.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: I think this is kind of the moment where the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: right reveals its true nature, and it's true nature that
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: it's going to guide it into the next few decades.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: So I've been warning about this for ten years. I've
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: been talking about it for ten years, and it's.
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  Speaker 2: Actually becoming a reality now Again.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: The institutions are shifting towards this postliberal future. They're embracing
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: the Tucker Cousins and Nick for intansis, and they're embracing
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: the ultimately in irrational ideas like anti Semitism. I think
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: the more we know that, the more we understand it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe next time when there's an election, I won't have
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  Speaker 1: to argue quite as I won't have to be as convincing.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's not what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I won't have to spend as much time in convincing
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: you that candidate X is no good because you now
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: have the background, you now know what the right is,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: and maybe maybe there'll be more and more people who
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: who who are ready to vote them out. And in
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: terms of I agree with you that rational people are
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: get that something's wrong with Tucker Calson. They don't always
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: get what's wrong with him. Also that he's a little
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: little whacky, in a little crazy, and usually up until
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: the last week or so, I dealt that Taco Calson is, like,
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  Speaker 1: here's the joke.
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  Speaker 2: He is the latest crazy thing Taco cass In Candaicell.
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  Speaker 1: And did because there's no there's no point and seriously
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: addressing what he does, because he's so e rap, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but he is somebody that still attracts an audience of
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: a million people, or over a million people. Somebody shows
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: to much more than a million people. He's still somebody
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: that is obviously hugely expected on the right. And you
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: can't just ignore a cultural force, a cultural force like heres.
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  Speaker 1: What we need to do is keep pointing out how
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: irrational it is, not so that you are not attracted
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: to it, but that I'm hoping that you repeat it,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: and that just builds into a kind of a cultural movement.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: Ultimately that is anti.
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  Speaker 1: The kind of emotionalism and the kind of subjectivism and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: the kind of irrationality.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: That Tucker calls represents.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a quite possible market that you write spend
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  Speaker 1: two inch Timelin All right, Liam says, have you been
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  Speaker 1: to the cow Hollow area of San Francisco by Lucas Studios?
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  Speaker 1: Just a beautiful, just beautiful travesty. Is such a gorgeous
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: city is run by a destructive leftist? Yes, I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's this is one of the three most beautiful cities
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  Speaker 1: in the world. I think this Real, De Genniro and
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  Speaker 1: Cape Town maybe the three most beautiful cities in the
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  Speaker 1: world in terms of geographical layout and the bridge and
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: the bay and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think that.
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco has many, many, many beautiful places. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know the Cowholow. I mean one of the beautiful places
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  Speaker 1: is the old Pasidio where I thought Lucas Studios was
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: the old Pastidio. Maybe it's the same place. But there's
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  Speaker 1: so many beautiful places in San Francisco. I used to
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  Speaker 1: we used to come here often and and and just
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: marvel at the at the at the beauty of the place.
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  Speaker 1: And there are lots of different places you can go
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: up high and see a great view. I've got a
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  Speaker 1: decent view here from my hotel, but this is some
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: of the most beautiful views anyway. So yeah, the fact
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  Speaker 1: that this city and now in New York have all
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: have been run by leftists and now New York by a.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: Socialist is just.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: It gives you a sense of the state of the world,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: the the you know, the conflict between the makers and
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: the takers, the productive in the moochas. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the most productive places of planet Earth,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, which where the AIU revolution is happening, and
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: yet you've got a whole class of people who just
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: mooch off of it, just mooch off of it. Hyper
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: cannabal will out adaption adaptation into authoritarianism be subtle but
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: constant until nothing is recognizable, I think so. I think
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be all at once. I think it's
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be a slow force. It's already happened. I mean,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: the amount of stuff we tolerate from Trump, and we
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: tolerate it from Obama, and we tolerate from Biden, but
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: even more so on steroids from Trump, I think is
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: unimaginable to just a few generations back. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a slow creep.
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  Speaker 2: We just don't.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: It's a boiling frog. It's just we slowly and will
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: wake one up one day.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: And we live.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Basically in authoritarian state. It's what happened to Hungary. To
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: some extent, it happened like that. So Russia, Michael says,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Mom Downey could make it worse than what it could
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies because now capital is mobile. In
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: the seventies, you couldn't work remotely in New York City,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: loses a million people, state revenue will collapse. I don't
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: think New York City's gonna lose a million people. Remote
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: work is over stated. I mean, basically, for example, New
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: York banks require everybody to come into the office. Most
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: big corporations now require people in the office. Remote work
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: is gone, at least as the kind of phenomenon we
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: thought it would become a post COVID, we were wrong.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: I was wrong. I thought, yeah, people are never going
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  Speaker 2: back to the office.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: JPMO could Chase just built this magnificence, this huge skyscrapers
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: in Midtown Manhattan for the new offices, and they're expecting
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: everybody to come to work in the office.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: I thought that would be dead. It didn't die. So
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know how mobile law that is.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Is jpmogul Chase willing to give up that beautiful new
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: building and move to another city. That won't be easy
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: for them, and it won't happen quickly. And I think
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: that's true across the board. The people leaving New York
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: will happen, but it won't happen.
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  Speaker 2: In the kind of numbers that you're suggesting not to have.
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  Speaker 2: A y'all go with them.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Well in New York City and San Francisco become ghost
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: towns over the next decade.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: No, San Francis is booming right now.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: It's back to pre COVID. It still has a homeless problem,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: but there are lots of people here. It's dynamic. The
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: new restaurants are opening, hotel prices.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Are way up. There was a period where you could.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: Come to San Francisco and really start a really nice
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: hotel for really cheap.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: That's gone.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: The conference business here in Malconi Center, which is right
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: across from my hotel.
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  Speaker 2: Is booming.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: San Francisco is far from dead or even a ghost.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: It's completely It's rebounded from COVID in a way that
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think many people expect it. And much of
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: that is Ai and then the mayor who's not a
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: radical leftist and.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: Who's cleaning it up a little bit. And I think
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: the same thing will be two of New York Nachavi Jagorithm.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: The free market movement has done such a lousy job
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: in inspiring significant numbers of young people. Gen Z thinks
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: being an optimistic visionary means being a democratic socialist, yes,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: and the alternative is to be either a nihilist of
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: the left and right democratic socialist. They pretend they're at
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: least for progress and for growth, and the yes in
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: my backyard, and they've got positive agenda. But the you
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: know what, what, I think a lot of young people
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: in going democratic socialist style, and and Mam Donnie had
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: this positive vision and he had energy and youth. You know,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: it's much better than kind of the nihilism of the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: left and the right, and the anger and the constant anger.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: And I mean Mamdanni put on a good show.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Robert says, have you seen any of c I A
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: torture whistleblower John kick Cow's work. No, I find it
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: tough to see through through insights from a CI officers
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: experience versus the perpetuating conspiracy theories.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: I have not seen his work, so I don't know. Sorry, Michael.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Do you prefer south southern California to northern California? Yeah,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: the way there's just a little bit better, but there's
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: no question, and in terms of living it's easier. But
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: in terms of beauty, there's nothing like northern California, San
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Francisco up into Napa and Sonoma and the redwood forests.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, Northern California is just gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: Kim.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing my MBA and it's unfortunate how some of
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: my classes are so anti capitalism, business and reason.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, even when I was got my MBA in
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: the late nineteen eighties, it was anti capitalist and anti
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: business and anti reason.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: It was hollow. So even back then, and I'm sure
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: it's worse now, So sorry, he's.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Staked my class on capitalism, my class on finance at
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: the Pedison Academy to kind of straight, you know, to
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: give you kind of the I don't know the right
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: perspective on many of these topics, Kim. Given that politics
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: is guided so much by emotion and mob mentality, how
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: are we supposed to appeal to reason with these sheep?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, people, it's hot.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: It's why we're not growing, not growing dramatically. It's why
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: we're not having huge successes. Because how do you appeal
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: to How do you convince sheep of reason? You know,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: we do our best and we try.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: All you have is reason. There's nothing else. There's no
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: secret sauce, there's no other mechanism cult.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: What sends me is how young men in my age
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: group have abandoned individual rights. I'm one of the few
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: who remains. I've seen them change in real time. I
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: think that's right. I mean, they've abandoned individualism. More broadly,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: they've any respect of the individual. They become they've joined
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: the tribe. They become collectivists through and through. Crypto fanatic
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Hassan Pika said the Soviet Union should have won the war. Yeah,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: I saw that he's also now in in Tenement Square,
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  Speaker 1: posing with mounts at you know, portraits of mounts at
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  Speaker 1: Tung and doing stuff in China right now. I saw
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  Speaker 1: some stuff where he's filming over there. Sunpiker is the
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  Speaker 1: equivalent of Nick Foyintis on the left.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he is.
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  Speaker 1: A nihilist without a question. He's a nihilist, much more
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  Speaker 1: so than, you know, than many of the of the
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  Speaker 1: kind of democratic socialist. He's not even a democratic socialists.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a hater and a destroyer. He is an
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  Speaker 1: out and out nihilist. There's nothing to be gained there,
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  Speaker 1: just like Fentis, and needs an anti sentment, just like
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  Speaker 1: for Intis. But the far left and the far right
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  Speaker 1: are the same, and people will flip between the two
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  Speaker 1: because there's.
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  Speaker 2: So much the same.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, the Nazis gained a lot of members
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  Speaker 1: in the thirties in the nineteen thirties from the Communist Party.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of Communists became Nazis because it's the same
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: or very similar. Lincoln says, Part one my biggest worry
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  Speaker 1: about a potential upcoming recession is that gen Z really
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  Speaker 1: hasn't experienced a bad economy, and yet they are very radical.
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  Speaker 1: If gen Z under a relatively good economy, are embracing
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  Speaker 1: Hamas and Nick Foytis, I don't even want to imagine
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  Speaker 1: what they do in a bad economy. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to tell how they respond to a bad economy,
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  Speaker 1: and it depends how the bad economy manifests itself and
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  Speaker 1: what it's blamed on. But yeah, things could get very ugly,
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  Speaker 1: given that we've got young people, not just gen Z's millennials,
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  Speaker 1: and then intellectuals who are completely corrupt, and then political
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  Speaker 1: leaders like Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: It's very hard to tell what exactly is going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: If we get a significant economy downtown, which looks likely
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  Speaker 1: and likely of it. I've stopped predicting them because I'm
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  Speaker 1: so bad at it. Will Trump plays a permanent US
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  Speaker 1: military base in Gaza? Is this preferable to you and
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  Speaker 1: doing it? I actually don't think he will. In the end,
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  Speaker 1: he'll put some kind of military base there, but I
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  Speaker 1: think these Raelis will discourage it. They don't want an
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  Speaker 1: American military base there, so I don't think it will
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  Speaker 1: be permanent. The UN's not going to do it for sure,
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  Speaker 1: and Israel wouldn't let them know, you need someway to
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  Speaker 1: house this international military force that's going to go into
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  Speaker 1: Gaza and monitor the ceasefire and HMAS supposedly and all
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: this stuff. And I guess building a temporary military base
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  Speaker 1: on the Israel side of Gaza makes sense for that
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  Speaker 1: purpose maybe, But I don't think it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: more than that, And I think it's way too early.
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  Speaker 1: I think the talks are still pretty early inters of
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  Speaker 1: what all of that looks like. And Hamas shows no
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  Speaker 1: indication that they're actually willing to dissolve. We will see,
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  Speaker 1: Kim says, really excited for your debate tomorrow. Are you
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  Speaker 1: coming to my debate tomorrow in here in San Francis,
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  Speaker 1: that'd be cool tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wearing a tie, a tie they've acquired it. To
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  Speaker 2: come to the debate tomorrow, you have to wait a
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  Speaker 2: suit and a tie. So I'm wearing a suit and tie.
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  Speaker 1: That happens once, maybe twice a year. This year happened
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  Speaker 1: twice because of the day Cambridge debate. At what time tomorrow?
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  Speaker 1: I'm wiving a time, not a black tie, a tie.
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  Speaker 1: Lincoln finally making about one hundred dollars per article writing
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  Speaker 1: for a center right college website. Glad I can finally
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: start supporting YBS regularly. Thank you, Lincoln, really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: And congratulations, that's terrific news, getting the word out there,
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  Speaker 1: doing reasons work, not God's work, but reasons work.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent, Dave, what if the people have always been.
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  Speaker 1: This emotional and it was the gatekeeper class that kept
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  Speaker 1: things from getting out of control?
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  Speaker 2: Look at Father Coughlin for example.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's definitely possible. So in
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: that sense, it goes back to what Iran said, which
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  Speaker 1: basically intellectual shape the culture because most people in the
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: culture emotional and they just follow the leader. And if
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: the leader is good, then good things happen. If the
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: leader is bad, bad things happen. And the important leadership
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: is not political leadership. The important leadership is intellectual leadership.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we.
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  Speaker 2: Need and that's what we're trying to do. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it a night and I will see
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  Speaker 1: you all, not Wednesday or Thursday, maybe Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do a show Friday.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think there's some truth to maybe we
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  Speaker 1: need to take a break from some of this.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: Nick Foy in this and Techer calls in.
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  Speaker 1: As long as there's no breaking news, we won't talk
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  Speaker 1: about that on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: We'll find other things to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: The funny thing is when I talk about economics, When
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: I talk about economic things that are going on, can't
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  Speaker 1: raise any money, Oh, Lincoln says. Lincoln says, this is
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  Speaker 1: a small thank you for the finance course at Peterson Academy.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: I got the chance to be a part of filming
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  Speaker 1: much better than the current finance course I take it
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  Speaker 1: to University of Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really, really glad you enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm hoping that I can do some more
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Peterson Academy courses in the future and that you're can
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: attend them live too. All right, guys, I will see
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  Speaker 1: you Friday and Sunday, and if not Friday, then suddenly Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Bye, everybody,