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- 0:00[Music] welcome to multiple
- 0:03nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 0:07Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 0:13Things nerdy this week I'm going to do
- 0:17something unheard of okay from the GetGo I'm going to point out that
- 0:23Danny's not here we're not going to get halfway through or to the end of then realize no
- 0:29he's is not here this week he could have been right but there's a reason why I
- 0:36cannot wait 2 hours for him okay what is the reason okay so I drink it's not a
- 0:42secret no it's definitely not a secret we talk about it a lot so I try Sundays
- 0:49are very hard for me for recording this lake so I need to try plan my drinking
- 0:53around what time we're going to record right so I try and Pace myself to
- 0:59get through to time we're going to record well I could wait an extra hour
- 1:03but if we left another 2 hours to when Dan would actually be in his hotel ready
- 1:06to record I would be too drunk right so that's why I decided we
- 1:13can't wait you forget it it's fine no don't worry
- 1:19it's better it's better that I be happy Luke than drunk Luke drunk Luke on this
- 1:23podcast is bad no I was going to say if you considered just not drinking that
- 1:27much I don't understand yeah that's what I do I don't drink that much I plan
- 1:32around I don't know I don't know that I want to make light of it to be honest I
- 1:37am comfortable with who I am that's fine that's fine I've come to terms with it
- 1:42and look like as you said it's no secret and uh and I just want to make sure I'm
- 1:47not enabling it that's all so uh in fact maybe we should do the
- 1:53podcast later and that can be my secret way of uh no you'll just be drunk never
- 1:58mind I'll just be drunk like yeah no we we know what happens there right so uh
- 2:04something big happened this week and out of respect for those who aren't going to
- 2:11be able to see it and also cuz Dan's not here um are we we just not going to talk
- 2:16about endgame spoilers at all this week Oh I thought we you thought I thought
- 2:21you were talking about my birthday oh yep no spoilers for that happened this
- 2:26week no no we could have spoilers for that how was it um how was it pretty
- 2:31good Hannah got me some presents what were they I got a really cool one which
- 2:35is like a a Lego a Lego ship in a bottle huh how do you get it in there so I got
- 2:40to build a ship and then build a bottle around it wa you build the bottle around
- 2:44it yeah that's kind of cheating isn't it aren't you supposed to build the ship in
- 2:48the model with like tools I'm sure I saw this in Battlestar Galactica yeah yeah
- 2:52but no no I'm building the Lego version of it so you just build a ship and then
- 2:56you build a or does it come with a ship and you just build a bottle around ship
- 3:00that already you got to build the ship and then you build the bottle okay
- 3:05interesting and then like transparent Lego that the bottle has made out of
- 3:09yeah hm it's quite cool yeah that's enjoyed it all right you a little
- 3:13frustrated with this build though this build was for sort of an older audience
- 3:18than I normally build Lego it's like 12 and up yeah so it's a little more difficult
- 3:24than I'm used to and how old did you turn this
- 3:27birthday uh 38 yeah okay that is older
- 3:32than 12 right no yes no yeah but I still I still act a lot younger yeah that's
- 3:38true I'm still younger than you you do but you don't because we just discussed
- 3:41that you drink heavily you wouldn't be allowed to do that as a 12-year-old or
- 3:44were you not allowed to did you drink as a 12-year-old maybe I don't want to know
- 3:48the answer to this no but as a 12-year-old I was taking a lot of
- 3:52painkillers right did you just make quote marks is that why you there was a
- 3:57little pause there were you like doing air quotes the pain Killers well I did
- 4:02do the air quotes but they were real painkillers that's that's why I'm
- 4:06wondering why you did it cuz you you like I was on morphine like
- 4:12yeah well uh that's that's good I'm glad you got some Lego uh what else did you
- 4:18get anything good what you Lego is awesome yeah sorry
- 4:23I didn't mean it to sound like that I just anything else good in addition to
- 4:26the other good thing that you got which is my anniversary so I also got a wallet
- 4:30or passport wallet for your wedding anniversary yes cool cuz it's leather
- 4:36your wedding is oh yeah sorry yeah I I don't know why that thir third
- 4:40anniversary is Lea anniversary I thought you meant because you had that bondage
- 4:44wedding that you yeah but no now I get it now I get it yeah that was a weird
- 4:48wedding by the way it was but it was fun the whipping I could have done without
- 4:53but it was fun if I have to be honest I held back for you I know it could have
- 4:57been a lot worse for you or a lot more enjoyable yeah well I wasn't on the
- 5:01painkillers so also endgame did come out and we we have all seen it now mhm yes
- 5:07but there will be no spoilers on this podcast for there won't be any spoilers on this
- 5:13episode next episode but the episode
- 5:15after that it's happening okay all right
- 5:20well PL warning I feel like we need AIT another solution for this cuz people
- 5:24might want to know what we think so maybe I don't know well we could still
- 5:28say what we think yeah oh well I mean we probably should uh do you think people
- 5:34should go and see Avengers end game like in your opinion was it I think do you
- 5:38like it I I enjoyed it I will also admit I
- 5:45cried don't say that now they know
- 5:48there's something sad in it no no I I I no there was nothing sad oh they just
- 5:54cut you off at the bar and so you cried yeah right they took a while to get my
- 5:59drink to me no no no I I I cry in a lot of Disney movies I told I'm sure I told this story
- 6:05on the podcast but we went and saw uh you know the Beauty and the Beast live
- 6:08action remake y okay there was an old older guy like I was going to say old
- 6:13man he was he was pretty old though he was like gray and with a beard and he would have
- 6:17been I don't know maybe 70s um and he was he was having a good old cry next to
- 6:23me so that was yeah like yeah it doesn't like I'm not there's so spoilers I like
- 6:29I Cry in a lot of movies it's just something I do this one there were a bit
- 6:32more tear than normal so if you're sensitive to getting upset in a
- 6:38movie you might cry in this one is that what you're saying yes okay well I I did
- 6:43not cry uh but I did enjoy it it was it was pretty good really St to understand
- 6:48or not understand but think it's just me that cried out of all of us oh except
- 6:52Hoy Hoy said she cried as well sorry what's her name shut up I'm
- 6:58drunk yeah moving
- 7:03on [ __ ] um yeah I liked it it was good uh I
- 7:10think I liked it the same as I liked Infinity War if that's helpful for
- 7:14people some bits I found uh there's one bit particular I found a very on the
- 7:17nose that we discussed in a couple of weeks uhhuh sure I might know what it is
- 7:21some bit I found a little bit slow but for the most part I like I really
- 7:25enjoyed it it's 3 hours long but it didn't feel like 3 hours I I was worried
- 7:29that it might and even I agreed there were some bits that were slow but I
- 7:33never felt like oh God like is this going to end it wasn't dragging slow it
- 7:38was just like when it finished and I was like oh okay we're done like yeah can I
- 7:44just say one thing that people might I'm giving a warning to people you don't
- 7:49need to wait till the end of the credits oh yeah yeah yeah I know they've I get
- 7:56it's so weird I found like they Marvel have trained up for how many years now
- 8:01hang around to the end of the credits M and this time nothing they they're
- 8:06releasing these movies in phases right and this isn't even the end of this
- 8:09phase apparently the new Spider-Man film
- 8:12is the last one in Phase 4 so
- 8:17yes which I guess is kind of odd but whatever uh so yeah it's just especially
- 8:23strange that there's no post credits scene like there was no like Spider-Man
- 8:28will return in or anything like that it's just a nothing but I guess you know
- 8:33this wraps up the infinity Saga and all like jazz I guess
- 8:38well I don't know I don't want to spoil anything like it doesn't no it's not
- 8:42like it's not like there's no more [ __ ] movies like no like they've
- 8:47already there are movies coming out next year I haven't announced what yet yeah
- 8:52yeah which is also interesting but I guess you know makes sense we know that
- 8:56there's a few sequels coming it's because they haven't really announced
- 8:59because James gun was fired at the time yeah and they didn't want to well they
- 9:03didn't want to spoil anything and you know wasn't Guardian 3 was meant to be
- 9:08the cross over to the next sort of phase yeah I think that's right that's that
- 9:14was what was meant to happen and then James gong got fired and it went quiet
- 9:19and I still think it'll probably be Guardians 3 will be the next one mhm
- 9:23yeah that's just a feeling I have now he's back well we can just
- 9:28throw that in yeah we're going to have to wait a bit for it though that's the
- 9:31thing I'm generally they they tend to pump these things out a little more
- 9:34quickly than that yeah but not not anymore this one like they haven't even
- 9:38announced what the next one is this is going to be the longest time between
- 9:41movies that has been in a a very long time
- 9:46yeah yeah well uh yeah I don't I'm I want to be careful that we don't say
- 9:53anything so uh I'll just say yeah we just we'll move on yeah I mean you don't
- 9:57really need a recommendation I guess you you know already if you're going to see
- 10:00this or not there's no yeah I don't think we're going to convince anybody
- 10:03either way um no odds are everyone who listens his podcasts has probably
- 10:09already seen it but just in case either that or they're a cynical [ __ ] and they
- 10:13just won't go see it out of spite that's also possible we got a few of those list
- 10:17that's also possible but then if you're one of those lists doesn't matter if I
- 10:22spoil it that's true that's true I had someone at work that was
- 10:27actually trying to spoil it for people people I [ __ ] hate that why I
- 10:32actually pointed out like sure like if you spoil something by accident while
- 10:37having conversation yeah that's fine if he's coming in with the purpose of
- 10:41spoiling it for people that's the HR
- 10:47issue it's just odd no no no no seriously think of it it would be a HR
- 10:52issue like an accident happened like you're having a conversation but if
- 10:54you're coming in the day of that no one else has seen it and gone this happens M
- 10:59you're just doing and just saying I don't care if you get upset I'm just
- 11:03doing this to be a dick that's an HR issue like that's yeah that's just
- 11:07someone being a dick yeah yeah I I get annoyed cuz people people like to make
- 11:11jokes right they go oh I'm not going to tell you what happened but and then they
- 11:14make up the lie and say some some fake garbage thing and I'm like don't you
- 11:18either just shut up like cuz even like doing that whole joke thing sort of
- 11:23though well I know that's not going to happen which is actually sort of also a
- 11:26spoiler yeah and then I've had people like it's particularly with Game of
- 11:30Thrones I don't watch Game of Thrones at the moment anymore I'm G to watch the
- 11:33whole thing from scratch at some point only because I got frustrated when we
- 11:38were in Sydney that was because it was difficult to watch and then people just
- 11:41kept telling me [ __ ] but I didn't like I don't just don't talk to me about it I
- 11:46don't I'm not watching it just like leave it alone but they make jokes and
- 11:49then they accidentally tell you something like just just shut up about
- 11:54it like go talk to the people who watched it away from me it's fine like
- 12:00so if and if they're talking to someone who has watched it and they're enjoying
- 12:03and you have here well that's not great that it happen yeah [ __ ] happens like
- 12:08I'm not I'm not but I don't mind if it's an accident generally speaking but it
- 12:12but the the only times that bugs me is when people just have to tell you when
- 12:17when I've said don't tell me that's that's annoying just don't do that [ __ ]
- 12:21Jesus and then the other one is when when you say don't tell me and then they
- 12:24tell you a fake one that that when you're watching it you go oh actually I
- 12:28can see why they thought that was funny because because now they've spoiled
- 12:32actually have spoiled it cuz I'm not I'm not an idiot like when I you know people
- 12:36talking about the the spoilers for Game of Thrones sorry everybody but the
- 12:42people talking it's been two weeks it's definitely been two weeks the Red
- 12:45Wedding right exactly people go oh the wedding I'm not going to tell you what
- 12:48happens but there's a wedding and and it's like well just [ __ ] off now I know
- 12:52you've told me too much already see whereas I I honestly personally I don't
- 12:56care if people tell me stuff I've actually had people like even with um
- 13:01Infinity War I actually people I actually ask people like tell me what
- 13:03happens right I'm okay with it but I would never consciously do that to
- 13:08another person yeah dick move like unless they were just tell me I don't
- 13:13care yes that's like on uh you know like
- 13:17on um online people sneak spoilers into movie for videos for other things or
- 13:23they post them and stuff like that just don't do it it's dick move that's like
- 13:27just sociopathic Behavior you're just trying to ruin everyone else's fun don't
- 13:31do it this is where I think people need to stop being anonymous on the internet
- 13:36it doesn't help man they do it on Facebook too yeah yeah but you do it but
- 13:42then like I know people are doing in comments sections even on like r.com
- 13:47they're doing in comment sections and they even the mods are going like look
- 13:50guys we're doing our best to go through and delete these things
- 13:54but but yeah like read it your own risk they should just ban those people there
- 13:59was a good um you get a weak band someone said on on Reddit somebody said
- 14:03can we um can we all appreciate the mods who also don't want the movie spoiled
- 14:09but have to seek out the spoilers to get rid of them for the rest of us like so
- 14:13that we can have something they can never have which is like an unspoiled
- 14:17experience I was like it is actually kind of Noble in a way in a in a in a
- 14:22weird idiotic child way because it's a com me it sort of be good that if like
- 14:28hey on this website there's got to be no spoilers if you spoil it you get a ban
- 14:34right yeah but people just make a f account or whatever and that's where
- 14:38yeah the whole thing of yeah people can just have million accounts and it
- 14:42doesn't matter M the second internet becomes not Anonymous it's going to be a
- 14:46much better place man this this never used to be a thing I I don't know this
- 14:50whole phenomenon oh it's a bunch of phenomenon I guess combined which is the
- 14:53the the fan obsessions like with you know marvel and and Star War I guess
- 14:59Star Wars was kind of always a thing but we didn't have the internet back then
- 15:02because we used to have this problem with Buffy in Australia if you recall
- 15:06yes cuz we would get Buffy 6 months after the [ __ ] rest of the world on
- 15:12TV easy because the internet wasn't right you just didn't go on the forums
- 15:18for that like but it also sucks because it means you don't get to be part of yes
- 15:24you don't get to join the conversation yeah which which sucks cuz that's part
- 15:27of the that's one of the nice things about this is and and the reason I wanted to
- 15:31see endgame you know I I I didn't I saw the day after it came out um cuz I want
- 15:37to get online and I want to read what everyone's saying and I want to
- 15:40participate and also we got to talk about it on the show and I want to talk
- 15:42about with you guys like
- 15:46yeah but for once I was the first one to see you that happens a lot now though
- 15:52things have changed it used to be that Australia would have to wait like weeks
- 15:57yeah now now they went like normally movies come out here on the Thursday but
- 16:00went well it's anac day so instead of moving it to Friday they went we'll move
- 16:04it to Wednesday yeah and you guys get um some stuff like weeks early because they
- 16:09use it to test the market for here which I thought was interesting uh and also
- 16:14annoying because it means you get to see movies two weeks before we
- 16:18do which I don't know if really I don't know you don't really need to test things
- 16:23anymore you just get that's the marketing though they want to know is it
- 16:28worth spending millions of dollars marketing this thing in America if if
- 16:33bombs in Australia New Zealand then they'll just kind some of that money off somewhere
- 16:40else have you heard the rumors like with um even with um GTA 6 yeah there's a
- 16:45rumors going around now that that's going to be uh PlayStation 5 exclusive
- 16:50for the first few months G okay um all it is Rockstar's just
- 16:56going to make money off that but I'm still I'm off the opinion Rockstar could
- 17:00announce today they're they're dropping GTA 6 tomorrow and they would still make
- 17:06the same amount of money yeah I don't know that Rockstar needs an advantage
- 17:10like you or not not even an advantage like uh they so they just get a kickback
- 17:13from Sony for doing that like will pay them he he's like can't imag stra cash
- 17:20rockar don't need it Rockstar they made like billion dollar in sales in the
- 17:24first three days of GTA 5 that's why I don't really understand the um the bo
- 17:28lands 3 exclusive either I don't think gearbox is in trouble it's not gearbox
- 17:32it's 2K Games but I don't think they're in trouble either I don't really
- 17:34understand why they did that with the sorry with the epic game store exclusive
- 17:38I don't know why they did that just to get more money I
- 17:41guess I think it's just yeah it's just they threw money at them hey being
- 17:45exclusive here yeah like not yeah yeah okay well we we'll take a big kick up
- 17:52front which H they might actually be using for the development yeah Fair instead of about
- 17:59pre-orders hey we'll just take this money you're going to give us and we'll
- 18:02use it yeah I'm not against them making the game better but and also I play on
- 18:05the Xbox so I don't really give a [ __ ] about the yeah it doesn't at all the GTA
- 18:106 thing would yeah yeah right that would
- 18:14annoy I read uh I I don't I'm not really I don't really give a [ __ ] about the
- 18:19console war or any of that kind of stuff anymore I've kind of moved away from
- 18:22that but obviously I guess people still still do I used to care about that kind
- 18:26of stuff but I don't really anymore and the ex are L of an issue these days it's
- 18:31sort of weird I think Microsoft are trying to get away from that whole thing
- 18:35as well yeah and even Nintendo to some extent but Sony are very much uh trying
- 18:41to keep going with it well apparently then there was a days gone apparently
- 18:44that's a garbage game oh really yeah I read the bunch of it's got well it's got
- 18:50mixed reviews but a lot of people it's really buggy apparently and it's also
- 18:53like story Line's weird and the writing's not great I don't know I'm not
- 18:58not going to play cuz it's on Playstation only so yeah like even um Microsoft they they've
- 19:04got like Minecraft on the Nintendo switch they've got cuphead now on the
- 19:09Nintendo switch and there's hints that there's going to be like more crossovers
- 19:14coming okay um speaking of the switch uh there
- 19:20have been rumors that they were going to announce I think two new models people
- 19:25were saying at E3 a less expensive more portable version of the switch and a
- 19:32like a refresh of the standard one that I guess maybe is more powerful or
- 19:35something like that but Nintendo came out and said no I'm not doing any of
- 19:37that so oh I heard that I I did hear that they weren't doing the more
- 19:42powerful version but I didn't I thought I didn't hear about the yeah the compact
- 19:47one not happening I think I thought that was going to happen let me read the
- 19:52specifics I believe the plan is there's no
- 19:57Hardware okay as a general rule we're always working on new hardware and we'll
- 20:01announce it when we're able to sell it but we have no plans to announce that at
- 20:04this year's E3 in June so there will be no new hardware announced is what that
- 20:08how that reads to me okay so that's fine I mean I like my switch don't really
- 20:15care yeah oh I I'm waiting the second that cuphead gets achievements I'm going
- 20:19to be buying that and I'll probably be playing the switch a bit more so will
- 20:22you get uh have you played cuphead on
- 20:25the Xbox already yes did you finish it
- 20:29I know yes that [ __ ] that game man that's not that game is [ __ ] hard I
- 20:36know it's it's not for me ridiculously I I didn't even buy I play the first part
- 20:42yeah but then you have to get like I forget if it's stars or something you
- 20:46have to get a certain amount of things to actually progress further and I just
- 20:49went no I'm out but I actually think on the switch it would be easier I feel
- 20:53like you just break your switch or the fact I could probably play it at lunch
- 20:57at work oh yeah okay there's also that man it's just I don't have time for that
- 21:01[ __ ] like I played it at cons and I was just nah it's not for me not for me it's
- 21:07actually quite a fun game but it's frustrating that's what I mean those
- 21:11kind of games I they're not that's not my thing not anymore once upon a time
- 21:16maybe same with like Dark Souls everybody's like oh you should play Dark
- 21:19Souls and nah at that it's just not think about it is I I don't see it's
- 21:24like Dark Souls I'm not a fan of I won't play but what I actually see the cuphead
- 21:28as is is like more of a game we got in the '90s no I agree and I used to like that kind
- 21:34of stuff where just very difficult but I've been coddled by modern games and
- 21:39then now I'm an old man and I I just I want to feel like I'm progressing all
- 21:45the time so that I can finish the game because I don't you know I'm [ __ ] I
- 21:50got a job and I got [ __ ] I got to do if I don't feel like I'm progressing I'm
- 21:54going to get stressed and I'm going to play something else like in another game
- 21:58where you die and you go okay I'll go back to here and I just continue on but
- 22:01in cuphead it's no you die and then you get three lives and then that's it you
- 22:05have to restart that whole thing again and it's sort of like no I don't want to
- 22:09no I'm not doing that that's still a fun game though yeah no no I get it look I'm
- 22:15not it's it's beautiful visually it's beautiful and I know it's got very good
- 22:19reviews and and people like it it's just not for me that's fine yeah and you're
- 22:23allowed to have that opinion I've been playing Titanfall 2 on your
- 22:26recommendation I know we talked about this already I'm still playing it it's a
- 22:29good game it's a great game I told you yeah I like it I'm I'm enjoying it uh
- 22:36upset though progressing through cuz there still talk of like
- 22:41Titanfall 3 but because respawn are walking working on the Star Wars game
- 22:47yeah and also Apex Legends that's sort of on the back burner a little bit
- 22:52haven't played Apex Legends I installed it it's free so I installed it cuz why
- 22:56not but I haven't played it yet um if you like Battle Royale games it's
- 23:02a good Battle Royale game I don't think I do but uh I'm willing to give it a
- 23:06shot man I we may have talked about this before but uh fortnite [ __ ] man I don't
- 23:12get it I just don't get that game I don't I don't
- 23:15understand like you build stuff and and
- 23:19you like also shoot and I I don't get Battle Royale games at all like the
- 23:24whole lot of them in theory I do Apex Legends you have to play with other
- 23:29people yeah like like I mean on a team like it's always teams of three yes so
- 23:36when you play it if you do get around you will be playing with two other
- 23:39people oh I get you so it's not every man for himself no okay hm I came second
- 23:45a lot sure never got the win no don't give
- 23:52up no I've already uninstalled it oh okay you gave up already all right fair
- 23:56enough I gave up did you get all the achievements no probably not no God no
- 24:00cuz yeah you have to win right and yeah I
- 24:05just I like I wasn't bad at the game but I never got you hon you bad at the game
- 24:11you can be honest you second quite a lot no no I was
- 24:15okay but you need to get paired with good people oh I see so it's everybody
- 24:20else's fault yeah exactly yeah my fault yeah of
- 24:25course uh we mentioned earlier uh I'm I'm I'm still playing through
- 24:29Borderlands 2 with Jenna I [ __ ] love that game um and we talked previously
- 24:34about you know the people were review bombing the older games because the
- 24:39Borderlands 3 exclusive thing with the epic game store and you know Randy pitch
- 24:45from Gbox pointed out that this is a flaw in Steam and you know maybe maybe
- 24:49this competition with the epic game store will help sort of that kind of
- 24:52crap out um Yep this week there's been another sort of review bombing thing but
- 24:59this is actually like a different type of review bomb um people are giving
- 25:05Assassin's Creed Unity positive reviews as an act of solidarity with France uh
- 25:11because nron burnt I say burn down did burn down but
- 25:15it got burnt very badly and very badly damaged it did end up good no it's
- 25:20pretty bad which is a shame because it's Ubisoft Ubisoft donated a lot of money
- 25:25they also donated like all their records They had had cuz I did a lot of research
- 25:29into it yeah doesn't have anything to do with the game though nothing to do with
- 25:34the game and this is what I find weird with the Borderlands review bombing yes
- 25:39cuz steam actually came out and now if you actually search that up yeah they
- 25:43got rid of them right they didn't get rid of them they just go they were yet
- 25:46well they did get rid of them they went this product has experienced one or more
- 25:49periods of off-topic review activity based on your preferences the reviews
- 25:54within these periods have been excluded from the product review score oh okay
- 25:58that's interesting so that's on Borderlands but on Assassin's Creed
- 26:02which is positive they haven't done they haven't removed it which it's exactly
- 26:08the same thing and this is what Randy was coming from like this type of stuff
- 26:12isn't actually good for No it's it's I mean I get it's nice I get the sentiment
- 26:18but it's not don't don't do that that's dumb like just and actually when be
- 26:23honest about whether the game was good or not like some of the reviews are just
- 26:27like Notre Dam and others were hey Ubisoft is giving this away free on
- 26:31their store and I'm s like that's how is that a good review yeah yeah people are
- 26:37weird like look I was sad about notra I was very sad about it
- 26:43I saw it back in uh 2009 I went had a visit [ __ ] beautiful place I was
- 26:48actually I was actually going to go to go see it this year yeah I know that's
- 26:51why I was like oh [ __ ] man we're going to be there later this year but nope
- 26:55yeah well I mean we will but we'll still be there but we won't get to see it well
- 26:59we get to see part of it yeah you I think a lot of the windows have been
- 27:03destroyed and the we won't actually get to see the inside we'll get to see the
- 27:07outside such a shame it's [ __ ] beautiful but anyway
- 27:11it was beautiful I'm sure they'll fix it but so yeah I was sad uh but uh that
- 27:15doesn't mean I'm going to give a game a positive review that just happens to
- 27:20have it in it in you know and yeah it's accurate apparently and then that's
- 27:23really awesome that's great but also not relevant
- 27:29yeah nothing to do with anything yep so don't don't do that people that's weird
- 27:34yeah this sory reviews are sort of crap well they're useful in a way but
- 27:39yeah they also cuz yeah reviews are tough cuz you need to that's what you
- 27:45know they have the uh what do they what do they call them the um you know
- 27:50they I want to not influences but you know on on Steam you have like reviews
- 27:55from trusted sources what do they call that oh yes so you can I have no idea
- 27:59you could say I agree with M right so I'm going to I'm going to say
- 28:04tell me what multiple nerdgasm thinks about X and uh and generally we'll just
- 28:07be crumpy should be the actual game not what people are doing offline yeah or
- 28:14even just like if you know that like say for example with films I tend to be
- 28:20interested in what say red letter media say about a film or or you know so if I
- 28:25could just say what do they think about this film before I go and see it at
- 28:28least it gives me some kind of indication of whether I might like it or
- 28:33not so I'm trying to think who reviews games that I agree with I don't know I
- 28:36don't really read or watch game reviews that often but multiple no gasm yeah so
- 28:40if I say oh I generally uh not even necessarily agree with them but I'm I'm
- 28:44interested in what they think of a game before I purchase it then in that case
- 28:48reviews are good but if it's just a bunch of random people like [ __ ] you
- 28:52might not agree with them who knows no like and you have no idea where they're
- 28:56coming from a lot of the time they might enjoy it for different
- 29:00reasons to what you enjoy you need to find you need to find a source that you
- 29:04sort of have stuff in common with and that's the stuff where you will you'll
- 29:09get more information from yeah yeah rather than just a bunch of random
- 29:12people and cuz the the other thing too is that like if
- 29:15you these These are kind of organized things these review bombs but it happens
- 29:19even if it's not organized like if everybody's giving something a positive
- 29:23review people tend to just join in like yes cuz I don't want to be so to be oh
- 29:29yeah this is wrong no even this why I don't actually care so much about
- 29:33people's reviews I always make a decision for myself yeah same yeah I
- 29:37like a lot of movies that people don't like and I don't like movies that people
- 29:41do like so yeah there were bands I used to like when I was young there would be
- 29:45bands that I thought I might like and then people go you won't like them like
- 29:49they're terrible and then I'd go see go no I actually like this and then that's
- 29:52where I decided I'm going to just yeah make decisions for myself you decided
- 29:57people are full of [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah y I know what I
- 30:01like good it's not art it's not art I don't get art you don't get art at all
- 30:08no what if it was like a nice painting of Darth Vader
- 30:12yeah no or I'm going to pay $4 million for it I didn't ask you to mate I mean
- 30:17if you what 3 million 3 million can I take a picture
- 30:22of it no I haven't painted it yet I want I I want to know if you'll pay me $3
- 30:25million before I bother yeah probably not I'll paint you a picture of Darth V
- 30:31if you pay me $3 million Luke I'll do it listeners any one of you I'll do it for
- 30:36you too I'm [ __ ] payt whatever you
- 30:40want for three million bucks y listeners if you enjoy this show and
- 30:47we hope you do uh you can get in touch with us and let us know podcast multip
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- 30:57got links all that kind of stuff and there a contact form we love hearing
- 30:59from people uh let us know what you like don't like about the show just you know
- 31:03write and say hi um if you do enjoy the show people will still tell us what they
- 31:08don't like about the show and we still just talk about Star Wars well yeah
- 31:12you're right well it's good to know though right so that we can make a joke
- 31:16about it yes and still continue to do what the [ __ ] we want well we do this
- 31:20show for us right like let's be honest that's what I like about this show is we
- 31:24talk about what we want to talk about and we don't we don't have you know
- 31:28really have sponsors we partner with people but we're very you know we're
- 31:30very clear when we talk to people companies that we don't to sell out as
- 31:35such like you know if if you're going to give us a game if we don't like it we're
- 31:39not going to say we liked it that kind of thing right unless the price is right
- 31:43we're not going to sell out shut up Luke um no but we don't we
- 31:49don't do that and then but if you didn't tells you don't like something you know
- 31:53we'll we can address it like but if we do the show for us and we hope people
- 31:58like it for that reason like you know it's not there's nothing fake about it
- 32:03we're just talking about [ __ ] we were interested in um yeah if you like the
- 32:07show and we hope you do uh a really helpful thing you could do is give us a
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- 32:24and if you want to support us even more directly you can go to patreon.com /
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- 32:31show cuz we don't uh we don't get money from from any sponsors directly or
- 32:35anything like that we this is all funded by us and our patrons so yes yeah and we
- 32:41want to we want to keep it that way because it does give us the freedom to
- 32:43say things are [ __ ] whatever the hell we want exactly we're not beholden to any
- 32:49publisher or or anything it's it's nice we just say whatever we want but I will
- 32:53take any free game that people want to give me right fair but he might
- 32:58not say nice things about it I'm if I don't like it I'm not going to say nice
- 33:02things about it yeah might not say anything if I get a free game and I
- 33:06don't enjoy it I probably just won't talk about it yeah same that's that's
- 33:09what I tend to do and I but like I said I make that clear before I accept things
- 33:14from people like we talked with we've chatted with people at conventions
- 33:18before like companies and what not have meetings and and and I just always
- 33:22really careful to say just so you're aware You Know Have you listened to the
- 33:26show maybe have a listen to it and then and then tell us what you think cuz I
- 33:30don't know I don't know what you're expecting but we're not I don't know we
- 33:36don't kind of do that so
- 33:39no uh speaking of podcast platforms uh a new one launched this week a podcast app
- 33:45called luminary did you hear about this no now I don't know if we're on this cuz
- 33:50I haven't I haven't installed it uh listeners if you have checked this out
- 33:54luminary or if you want to check it out and let us know podcast multip nasm.com
- 33:58if we're on this platform um apparently this is like a
- 34:03$100 million funding uh podcast app and the idea is that they want to be Netflix
- 34:09for podcasts so okay you can you can get it it's free to get it and you can listen
- 34:15to podcasts you know like hours for free as normal um and and well the idea was
- 34:22that you would just get access to all the podcasts you can normally get plus
- 34:26if you pay them like I think like eight bucks a month or something like that you
- 34:29get a bunch of Premium ones that they're producing which is a bit cheeky really
- 34:34cuz like that's not [ __ ] it's not podcast work mate it's like they're
- 34:39free you know um so they're trying to that's their business model but it turns
- 34:46out when they when they released it they are or they were sorry cuz I think
- 34:52they're taking steps to fix this but they were rehosting everybody's
- 34:56[ __ ] so they were taking all the podcasts and then hosting them on their
- 35:02servers uh or their CDN uh whether accidentally or not they said they this
- 35:07might have been an accident but not all of it was an accident but they were
- 35:13basic they [ __ ] up everybody's stats they're hiding um The Listener
- 35:17information from from the podcasters they
- 35:21were uh removing links and sponsorship information from the show notes for
- 35:27podcast like what the [ __ ] man oh yeah right
- 35:31cheeky so uh a bunch of big podcasts and and and and you know networks said
- 35:37[ __ ] remove us from your platform it's is copyright infringement CU you're
- 35:42taking somebody else's work and you're [ __ ] with it uh and they insert ads
- 35:47uh apparently too I don't know whether they do that for all of them but yeah
- 35:50it's just I don't know so so when when they inser the ads do the people who
- 35:54they're putting on to get the money or I don't know that's what I'm saying I
- 35:58don't even know if we're on there because apparently a lot of people so
- 36:00one of the big ones right one of the biggest podcasts out there is The Joe
- 36:03Rogan podcast right um whatever you think of Joe his podcast is [ __ ] huge
- 36:09right he didn't even know he was going to be on this thing and he's on there
- 36:12and there not only that but like they you know he's no longer getting stats
- 36:16from uh from from the show so listeners when you listen to the show you know it
- 36:21downloads the episode from our server uh cuz we host we're we're independent so
- 36:26we host all this [ __ ] ourselves um and I get information like this many people
- 36:30listen to the show and and we get kind of basic stats on you know what country
- 36:36are you in and you know basic kind of [ __ ] like that nothing creepy but anyway
- 36:41it's helpful I can tell you right now saile and multiple nasm are on there
- 36:46they are interesting I just subscribed to both of them so they're [ __ ] with
- 36:50our [ __ ] yeah apparently Spotify did the same thing originally but they changed
- 36:55it cuz everybody complained cuz that's how like like we don't have
- 37:01advertisers as such but a lot of podcasts do like you know when you hear
- 37:03like [ __ ] Casper and a Squarespace and and you know all those blue apron
- 37:09right they rely on those stats to sell the ads so if you're a podcast that that
- 37:16needs that information then it [ __ ] that you know it's really bad so are
- 37:22lots of people using this app or well it has apparently it's not had a good
- 37:29launch because of all this cuz I think the the problem they have is that if you
- 37:34listen to podcasts you're also kind of a little bit Savvy like cuz it's not I
- 37:39don't know I think podcast listeners tend to be a little Tech interested in a
- 37:43way um that's changing and they Bec is
- 37:47changing now but I think if if if you're installing luminary this new podcast app
- 37:53you probably know a little bit about podcasts cuz otherwise why the [ __ ]
- 37:56would you even think to install it you know so I think they've had a bad launch
- 38:00because people are finding this out like it's it's in all on the all the tech
- 38:05news sites and stuff so I mean I'm sure there's people out there who are
- 38:09oblivious to it but I think probably a lot of them are aware that that this is a bit of a
- 38:14controversial thing and to be fair they have now apparently fixed that they they
- 38:21now just redirect all the downloads straight to the to the uh you know to
- 38:26the podcast host and cuz you know we're on a CDN and everything like that we do
- 38:29all that stuff we don't need them to do it like I [ __ ] sort all that stuff
- 38:33out they honestly thought they'll maybe doing the right thing but maybe I wonder
- 38:38speed up it up a little bit maybe but I don't we don't need him to do that we do
- 38:42that already like that's my problem the the whole thing I'm actually going to
- 38:45try and listen to a few of our podcasts to see if they're putting ads on us yeah
- 38:48well that's that would be [ __ ] yeah and maybe I don't know I
- 38:53hope I'm wrong about that but that and uh do the show notes have the links in
- 38:58them can you see that um on there cuz apparently they strip all that [ __ ] out
- 39:03like in our case we link to the Articles were talking about and and we don't have
- 39:07we don't we don't really put any sponsorship [ __ ] in there cuz we don't
- 39:10have any sponsors no there are no show not oh the show not there no links yeah
- 39:14see [ __ ] man put them in there that's what they're there for yeah all it says
- 39:17is like what's the going rate on dirty mags what about Transformer Comics mhm
- 39:22asking for a friend a friend who needs to sue someone to recover damages mhm
- 39:27right and it doesn't have a link to any articles that that refers to no well
- 39:31that's dumb so hopefully they'll fix that but a lot of yeah said Joe Rogan
- 39:35he's now told him cease and assist remove my thing from your app you can't
- 39:39you can't just do that uh you know there's copyright issues potentially and
- 39:45and you're messing with people's livelihood by removing sponsorship
- 39:48information uh and New York Times has pulled all their podcasts off and a
- 39:53bunch of big networks now and uh uh Mac stories pulled all theirs off and um
- 40:00yeah but but it's cheeky man you got to opt out like you have to know about this
- 40:04and then you have to email them and say hey remove me like [ __ ] off man like you
- 40:09can't know I should go the other way yeah you like cuz we've been contacted
- 40:14by other like apps to go hey we'd like to host you is that okay yeah yeah
- 40:19exactly and we usually like we say yeah cuz we don't like I said we don't really
- 40:23care no problem at all yes host away it's nice to know how many people are
- 40:27listening but and and as long as they have some stats I can kind of figure
- 40:30that out and I mean it does help us in a way because we you know like we get
- 40:34comped tickets to things sometimes and they ask us for listener stats so I we I
- 40:39we keep a general idea of it but we're not selling you know that information
- 40:43for ad revenue or anything like that so we don't care as much as some of these
- 40:47other podcasts do it's nice to be asked you know I mean if we have more people
- 40:52listening than uh we're aware of that's that's fine it's awesome but I'd really
- 40:56like to know yeah exactly right in let us know yeah if you've tried out
- 40:59luminary let us know what you think although I guess it's just [ __ ] just
- 41:03plays podcast so I guess it doesn't really matter but yeah it's like the
- 41:06other billion apps that are out there yep yeah except that crucial difference
- 41:12is that it it's been a bit shitty with the with the content okay did you see
- 41:17this so Mark Hill posted a tweet and it got him in trouble I think I did are you
- 41:22talking about the picture he posted yeah I'm talking about the picture he posted
- 41:24I saw it I went that's cute yeah I actually didn't even nothing of it mhm
- 41:30so well explain what it is what is it so it's someone a fan put together like
- 41:36Lando Han Carrie Fisher and Mark hell like all in the same picture in the
- 41:40Millennium Falcon yeah the like the the old versions of them like in the in the
- 41:45new films the current versions of them except for car Fisher because you don't
- 41:49want the current version of her no that would be that would be in poor taste but
- 41:54just and he posted this on his Twitter and I just thought oh that that's cute
- 41:58yeah like that's actually just a nice photo and he like what could have been
- 42:01and know the way I read it is like he s of a little bit upset that that will
- 42:06never happen because yeah but he wasn't having a go at him like it's you all
- 42:10it's just someone's photoshopped them all together in the in the Millennium
- 42:13Falcon and it's just like oh yeah that would have been a cool little thing that
- 42:16we never got to do just cuz [ __ ] didn't work out like
- 42:20yeah that's all I saw it was but yeah evid the internet went a little bit
- 42:26crazy as the internet does because they think he's having they think he's
- 42:30[ __ ] on everything all the time they're like oh Mark H secretly [ __ ]
- 42:34hates the the sequels so he's always [ __ ] on him yeah and
- 42:39it's yeah and no it's all just it was the nice I thought it was a nice thing
- 42:44he did yes was nice and innocent which I think that's where he gets in trouble
- 42:49cuz he is just yeah he doesn't think about it that way but he doesn't realize
- 42:53that people are [ __ ] crazy yes so people took this as MK
- 42:59Hill's pissed off that he didn't get to do a scene with Harrison Ford Carrie
- 43:03Fisher and Billy D Williams is that is that where they're going with it that's
- 43:08that's where the internet's going with it yeah pretty sure that's not what he
- 43:11meant no and then even Billy D Williams has thrown his head in now wait what
- 43:16Billy D Williams has sort of gone like you should be getting used to everyone's
- 43:19Nick you should be used to getting everyone's nickers in the twist part of
- 43:22your charm man yeah well he does he always it's like before the Last Jedi
- 43:27came out and he was he was saying you know he he was he just I guess he's just
- 43:34a happy friendly guy he says things and he doesn't realize that people are going
- 43:37to take it like the most the worst way possible yes they'll take it and twist
- 43:43it to turn into whatever they want yes the internet will always give you the
- 43:48least benefit of the doubt the worst possible reading of
- 43:54anything you say cuz like I actually saw this when he
- 43:59posted this picture I saw it and that's nice bad about
- 44:04it I just that's that's I actually I actually even felt like a little bit sad
- 44:10like oh Carrie's gone and yeah yeah I was like oh you know what that would
- 44:14been nice how I saw yeah that's how I saw it I didn't see it as a oh he's
- 44:18[ __ ] on the sequels and oh he's upset and it's a it's a he saw a photo
- 44:23of him and a bunch of his friends photoshopped together and he was like oh
- 44:27yeah that would have been fun like that's all I'm sure that's all he wasn't
- 44:32having a go he's been he's known these people for many many years Y and he
- 44:38probably the thing he probably focused on was like him and Carrie when oh car's
- 44:42gone like this is a nice photo I'll post it yeah internet is a terrible terrible
- 44:47place do you want to hear more about their friendship you can listen to the
- 44:50old episodes of what no oh they have to pay for them now don't they we did have
- 44:55an old Series where we where we covered that kind of stuff but I guess yeah
- 44:58we'll leave it Luke Luke gets a bit upset about that I assume you're just
- 45:03emotional because down very
- 45:08quickly uh very
- 45:14quickly oh man man phandom did have have fans always been
- 45:20as crazy is this I I was reading this week well fans come from the word
- 45:24fanatic yeah you're right cuz I was reading this week I didn't know
- 45:29about some of this stuff but uh apparently fans of the show's
- 45:35Supernatural uh [ __ ] maniacs and
- 45:40they uh there's like a sub culture I guess I don't know if that's the right
- 45:45word but there's there's a there's like forums for these people who they think
- 45:49like for real that you know the two guys in Supernatural the two they play the
- 45:54two brothers I'm not I've not really watched it but you know who I mean right there two
- 45:57my sister could tell you but yeah I know the two guys the one of them was in
- 46:02Gilmore Girls so I know him from that um wasn't one of them also in jailbreak or
- 46:08something uhon maybe but they they these
- 46:12people apparently think that for real
- 46:16they are a gay couple and they have fake
- 46:20wives and fake children to hide that for
- 46:24some reason and
- 46:27they will send death threats and abusive
- 46:31emails and and harass these the families of these two actors because they think
- 46:38that it's real they think that they are a gay couple and that they like I've
- 46:43seen I saw screenshots this week for discussions in these forums it's the
- 46:48craziest most [ __ ] bizarre stuff I've ever seen I that's see if this was like in
- 46:54the 80s or '90s I could believe that a little bit more sure but like what like
- 47:00they hiding it or whatever but there's no evidence of this they're just actors
- 47:05this is like the other week not the other week like a month or so ago you
- 47:08know when uh at the Academy Awards Bradley Cooper and um lady gagar no idea
- 47:13what you're talking about Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga right they're in that
- 47:15movie together um and they play a couple As far as I'm aware I hav't seen the
- 47:21movie and then they did a live performance at the Academy Awards right
- 47:25presumably in character right they did a Love Song and they were like up there
- 47:30looking like they were in love with each other and then they went back and sat
- 47:32down and and Bradley Cooper's wife was there but everybody's like did you
- 47:36[ __ ] see how they were looking at each other they are secretly [ __ ] and
- 47:41I feel so bad for Bradley Cooper's wife this whole thing was going on and I'm
- 47:44like no no they they're they're actors they're actors that's what they do for a
- 47:48job yeah that someone paid them to do that well I mean Bradley Cooper directed
- 47:52it so Bradley Cooper paid himself to to look at Lady Gaga that way doesn't pay
- 47:57people no I know I'm just I'm just being factious but yeah like that's like
- 48:01that's not evidence of anything like they they they made a movie where they
- 48:05had to pretend to be a couple like if you were convinced by their performance
- 48:10they did their jobs it doesn't mean that they're actually you know in in a
- 48:14relationship I just don't understand people it's like how the actors who play
- 48:18Jim and Pam in the office they still get in trouble if they're out with their
- 48:21partners because they go no you guys are together that's what I mean people are
- 48:24[ __ ] crazy do you know she was married to James gun Jenna Fisher no I did not yeah Jenna
- 48:31Fisher is James gun's ex-wife I knew she'd been in like a movie with him
- 48:36before yeah I think she been in more than that with him Luke wink wink no I
- 48:40think he's been in more wait what oh I get you sorry yeah yeah
- 48:47yeah you what is James gun done now or what did he do back then no we don't no
- 48:54I want say anything bad about James I've I've said enough bad about James gun by
- 48:57accident in my life I'm going to say anything when you thought you didn't
- 49:00like him yeah unbelievable [ __ ] love that guy I would just say in the
- 49:06probably the biblical sense he was with his wife yeah I got it in the end I got
- 49:13it yeah yeah fans man but yeah no I yeah that's what like it fans you have to
- 49:19also think Fanatics and that's a terrible thing like people it's sort of
- 49:24nervous for some people to come out as a f of something
- 49:28because if you talk to the wrong person then well you're not a real fan because
- 49:33you haven't watched this or seen this or you don't know this and like I I just
- 49:37like it yeah yeah I don't know man it's I I sometimes
- 49:44I'm like I I I guess I used to roll my eyes a bit when people talked about
- 49:48toxic fandom in relation to Star Wars cuz I'm like no we just like the movies
- 49:51but no that they really they really are it exists [ __ ] crazy Maniacs out there
- 49:57maybe and maybe maybe we are them but we
- 50:01just don't realize I I don't think I am I will happily talk to anyone about you
- 50:07didn't say that I wasn't you I can only talk for
- 50:12myself I mean I don't think you are but I don't know what you get up to online
- 50:18well there's a reason for that I use a VPN Luke cuz I don't want anyone to know
- 50:22what I get up to online exactly that's a joke by the way that's a
- 50:29joke but like I've heard like some of the most toxic fans out there are like
- 50:32the Rick and Morty fans and stuff [ __ ] never even watched that
- 50:37show I've heard about it and I'm like I don't think I want to watch
- 50:41it but yeah it's yeah a lot of people just yeah just just be nice if someone
- 50:45says they're a fan they like the show you should embrace them you can just
- 50:51like stuff you don't have to be weird about it just like it it's fine they're
- 50:55they're not a fake gamer or a fake fan if they say they like something they
- 50:59like something else as well fake gamer girls and all that stuff
- 51:04like God just sounds so lame like stop
- 51:08accusing people of weird [ __ ] like that people just like stuff it's fine yeah
- 51:13and they're allowed to yeah it doesn't impact on your enjoyment of saying if I
- 51:17if I say like if I didn't like endgame right that doesn't affect the fact that you
- 51:22did no just relax everybody it's fine yeah you you're if other people don't
- 51:28like stuff you're still allowed to like it no also the other way if if you like
- 51:33if everyone else likes it and you don't you're allowed to not like it no not
- 51:38anymore not on this show anymore I've decided that from now on we need to have a consensus
- 51:45ooh so stay tuned for that I guess interesting then yeah we need to come up
- 51:52with from now on multiple nerdgasm needs to collectively have a take on on
- 51:57everything we're no longer allowed to have individual
- 52:00opinions cuz there's a lot of time where we all do not agree yeah that's true do
- 52:04you know I we've talked before about this actually listeners let us know if
- 52:07you think this would be uh something you would give two shits about uh in the
- 52:12past we have discussed adding to the website kind of a little review area but
- 52:18we don't we don't really do extensive reviews but just like a little you know
- 52:22what we think of things so for example if it was Avengers endgame you could go
- 52:28to the page and then just you know like a sentence or or even a little paragraph
- 52:31from each of us uh just on what we thought of it whether we enjoyed it or
- 52:35not um I could handle that that exactly it would be it'd be manageable for us
- 52:41because we watch and and enjoy a lot of stuff and we could kind of go through
- 52:45and just add things as we felt like it is that something you would be
- 52:47interested in as a listener let us know podcast at multiple.com M on Twitter mul
- 52:51on Facebook blah blah blah blah blah let us know if you give two [ __ ]
- 52:56about what we think probably not probably not probably not and as I
- 53:00always say don't even listen to us go and make a decision for
- 53:05yourself says it's going to be the most helpful it's everything Luke's is just
- 53:09like H make a decision for yourself no I would put what I think but I would also
- 53:14have but you should also see it just to make sure yeah all right you know what
- 53:20right and let us know but maybe I'll just set this thing up anyway cuz
- 53:23[ __ ] I think set it up I I actually I'm s like the idea
- 53:27like a little one line thing I can handle we we need to all agree remember
- 53:31I just I just told you oh yes so unless we all agree is it is it a
- 53:37majority I don't know I think we all need to agree on whether it's a majority
- 53:41cuz even if they doesn't agree and we both agree well then Dan's wrong and
- 53:45we're wrong I don't know how I don't know how that's going to work I don't
- 53:47know we're going to need to I think we need to decide whether that is
- 53:52okay so we'll see what Dan thinks about that
- 53:59um I hope he cops around to it I like the idea I'm just going to do it yeah it's
- 54:06really grown on me Alien 3 have you seen Alien 3 I have and I love it and hate it
- 54:11all at the same time me too I really like a lot of it and I feel like I'm
- 54:17disappointed in it for various reasons listeners if you want to know more about
- 54:21Alien 3 and why we're talking about it this way you can listen to an episode of
- 54:25necronom the uh the podcast that Jenner and I used to do right here the the one
- 54:30reason why a lot of people aren't quite a big fan of it is because it takes
- 54:33alien 2 and it goes forget out about all those people you gr an attachment to
- 54:37they're all dead yeah but not for good reasons for dumb behind the scenes
- 54:43reasons they couldn't get people to be in there and all that kind of stuff so
- 54:46it just kind of sucks from that perspective um y so William Gibson the famous science
- 54:52fiction author who wrote uh Neuromancer uh and some other stuff
- 54:57you'd be familiar with he's kind of one of the the grandfathers of modern
- 55:00science fiction and cyber Punk he wrote a script he actually wrote two scripts for Alien
- 55:053 uh but there's one that they were going to go with and it's become quite famous uh for
- 55:11being quite different it's uh you know Ripley's not really in it very much it's
- 55:16mostly about Hicks and okay that would have been awesome
- 55:22well you can find out because audible have done uh they do these kind of like
- 55:28it's not not you know audible audio books but they also kind of do
- 55:32performances as well like radio plays they've done a [ __ ] radio play of
- 55:35William Gibson's Alien 3 script and it comes out soon um I'm going to get that yeah
- 55:42because I've subscribed to Audible and I've got like three credits sitting
- 55:46there yeah well there you go perfect and guess who's [ __ ] in
- 55:51it who Michael Bean no yeah yeah he's Hicks and he's
- 55:58also uh unfortunately he's also um Bishop cuz apparently they I guess they
- 56:04didn't get Lance henriksson didn't get my friend Lance henriksson for some
- 56:07reason which is disappointing but man [ __ ] Michael Bean as Hicks but I'm
- 56:12actually looking forward to that because when I listen to audio books I
- 56:16actually do like it when they there are voices and actors in it yeah yeah yeah
- 56:20they do a lot of those now on Audible they're good there's a a neverware one
- 56:23that I have on there also we're not sponsored by audible this is not an
- 56:28advertisement I'm just I actually just give the I give audible money every
- 56:32month y I just think this is really [ __ ] exciting um yeah no I'm going to
- 56:37be getting this as soon as it comes out yeah uh it is out on May
- 56:4330th see why announce it just go hey
- 56:47here it is to drum up interest cuz they want to release it and
- 56:52then have everybody buy it so that they can kind of go oh yeah okay yeah but
- 56:56could go hey it's here here it is buy it right now no I mean you can pre-order it
- 57:01no I want to just I've got I've got credit sitting here right now to wait my
- 57:06money it's like it's $9 like [ __ ] man
- 57:11that's a bargain well I say that I guess technically I haven't I haven't listened
- 57:16to it yet but I'm I'm going to listen to be like one paragraph yeah I'm going to
- 57:21listen to it like so anyway yeah I think this is [ __ ]
- 57:26tops uh I'm glad they did this uh it's available as a dark horse made a graphic
- 57:30novel of it previously and I guess that was very successful which I guess that's
- 57:34part of the reason they decided this was a good idea but yeah [ __ ] tops so
- 57:39it's full full cast it's not just Michael Bean it's like a full cast of of
- 57:42voice actors doing the uh the acting out a radio play of uh William Gibson's
- 57:48Alien 3 script yeah I think yep definitely getting that MH mhm have you
- 57:55read any of other alien like fiction that I've read some
- 58:01of the alien ver Predator stuff yeah I don't really care about that I feel like
- 58:05that was a mistake just personally no no no no no but no this was like back
- 58:10before the movies I know but I still feel like I I'm I don't like that's I
- 58:15don't like I don't need predator and alien to be smooshed together I'm good
- 58:19I'm good with them being SE they weren't they weren't smooshed together they were
- 58:22sort of still their own separate things and then crossed over no I I yeah I I
- 58:26read some of it I enjoyed it yeah no fair enough my opinion does not impact
- 58:30on your enjoyment Luke as we've discussed it doesn't although we do need
- 58:33to decide by the end of the show what our Collective opinion on aliens and
- 58:37predators being mixed together is so do we I think really or do we have to
- 58:43wait for Dan he's not here so I think he's he's voted uh
- 58:48absentee oh okay yeah if you want to have an opinion on something you got to show
- 58:52up um one of the uh there's games any alien vers Predator which were quite
- 58:58good they were good weren't they I'm not talk I'm not talking about like I'm not
- 59:02talking about even like the first person sho I'm talking about like Neo Geo
- 59:06sidescroller ones as well they were fun uh yeah yeah all right and I mean Lance
- 59:13henriksson was in the alien vers Predator movie so that is a plus uh it
- 59:17was a very bad terrible in it so that's a minus that is a minus so that cancels
- 59:22out uh so I guess I'm neutral on that front see see the movies I I'm right there
- 59:29with you the movies are terrible they are I would call books and games are
- 59:33good steaming pile of feces I think I think I would describe them as some
- 59:39redeeming I'm not talking about the movies the the books in the games were
- 59:43good yeah I haven't read the books maybe I need to read the books and get back to
- 59:47you yeah read the books and then then make a decision probably not going to
- 59:50get that done soon so no we might have to leave this but that that was the
- 59:56first one that actually cuz I used to read a lot of Star Wars books back then
- 1:00:00and then I read this alien vers Predator one and there was a sex scene in it and I was
- 1:00:05wow between an alien and a predator no between a girl and a
- 1:00:11marine no no it it's between a marine and a
- 1:00:17Android okay that's I mean that's actually sort of interesting wait I
- 1:00:22think that long that raises all sorts of moral quandaries now Luke it was no
- 1:00:26cindies in your love now we need to reach a consensus on whether human
- 1:00:30Android intercourse is morally acceptable and I don't know as
- 1:00:36masturbating I don't know if we have the time for that oh so you think you don't
- 1:00:39think Androids are deserve the uh the courtesy of asking
- 1:00:45for consent well it depends on the Android do do they have do do they have
- 1:00:51intelligence do they have yeah is it do they have free whe or are
- 1:00:57they just a robot
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