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Bill Gates Among Seven Asked to Testify in House Epstein Inquiry · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we have some more news
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  Speaker 1: on the congressional subpoena front, as we're now adding Leslie Groff,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Kellan, Leon Black, Doug Band, and Ted Waite, the
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  Speaker 1: former boyfriend of Glenn Maxwell, to the list. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about Catherine Rumler and Howard Lutnick previously, so
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  Speaker 1: these are added on to that. And again, I don't
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  Speaker 1: expect much from Congress, but it'll be interesting at least
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  Speaker 1: to see people get put under oath. And as far
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  Speaker 1: as Sarah Kellen goes or Leslie Groff, I highly doubt
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  Speaker 1: that either of them are going to put themselves into
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  Speaker 1: legal jeopardy by incriminating themselves in front of Congress. So
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  Speaker 1: I doubt that Leslie Groff and Sarah Kellen are ever
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  Speaker 1: going to show up. Now, maybe if you subpoena them,
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  Speaker 1: and you try and compel them to do so. But
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  Speaker 1: short of that, asking them to come? Okay, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But if you know anything about the case, you know
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  Speaker 1: that both of them have a whole lot to lose.
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  Speaker 1: More to lose than just about anybody else in Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's whole circle. Considering the scope and the length of
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  Speaker 1: time that they were both with Epstein, and according to
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  Speaker 1: all the reports we've heard, the both of them were
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  Speaker 1: key components in his criminal enterprise. So it's not like
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  Speaker 1: those two were just, you know, hanging around. They weren't
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  Speaker 1: just invited to a party. And there's a reason that
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  Speaker 1: the both of them were given protection under the NPA.
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  Speaker 1: Because Epstein and his lawyers knew that they were dead
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  Speaker 1: to rights. If the federal government pursued the case the
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  Speaker 1: way they should have pursued the case, then everybody would
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  Speaker 1: have been charged. So that's why you see them get
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  Speaker 1: the non-prosecution agreement as basically a payoff. to remain quiet. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, there was a financial component to all of
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  Speaker 1: that as well, and both of them received a ton
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  Speaker 1: of money from Jeffrey Epstein. So I have some doubts
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  Speaker 1: about either of them showing up willingly. And if you
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  Speaker 1: want to talk to the core four, my guess is
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have to compel them to be there
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  Speaker 1: under subpoena. All right, so this article was published by
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  Speaker 1: CBS News and the headline, Bill Gates among seven asked
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  Speaker 1: to testify before House Committee on possible Epstein ties. This
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  Speaker 1: article was authored by Faris Tanyos. Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates
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  Speaker 1: is among seven people who on Tuesday were asked to
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  Speaker 1: testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee regarding
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  Speaker 1: its ongoing investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The
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  Speaker 1: six others are Leslie Groff, a former longtime executive assistant
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  Speaker 1: to Epstein, Sarah Kellen, another former Epstein employee, Catherine Rumler,
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  Speaker 1: former White House counsel to former President Barack Obama, Leon Black,
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  Speaker 1: co-founder of Apollo Global Management, Doug Band, a longtime personal
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  Speaker 1: aide and counselor to former President Bill Clinton, who along
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  Speaker 1: with his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, both
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  Speaker 1: testified separately on Epstein before the House Oversight Committee last week,
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  Speaker 1: and tech billionaire Ted Waite, a former boyfriend of Epstein associate, co-conspirator,
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  Speaker 1: all-around scuzzbag fellow child abuser, and bipedal serpent you mean,
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell, who attended Chelsea Clinton's 2010 wedding as a
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  Speaker 1: guest of Maxwell. And you notice they say here that
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell wasn't the plus one, Ted Waite was. In the
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  Speaker 1: seven letters, House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer writes that
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  Speaker 1: the committee believes the recipients have information that will assist
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  Speaker 1: in its investigation. Comer explains that the committee is reviewing
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  Speaker 1: the alleged mismanagement of the federal government's investigation into Epstein
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  Speaker 1: and Maxwell, ways in which Epstein and Maxwell sought to
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  Speaker 1: curry favor and exercise influence to protect their illegal activities
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  Speaker 1: and potential violations of ethics rules related to elected officials.
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  Speaker 1: Notice it doesn't talk about how the DOJ needs to
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  Speaker 1: be overseen or how there needs to be a look
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  Speaker 1: at the FBI, right? No, no, no. Can't have that.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to protect. They gotta make sure
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  Speaker 1: the institutions keep on humming even if the institutions are
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  Speaker 1: completely broke. The seven were given testimony dates ranging from
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  Speaker 1: April 16th to June 9th. A spokesperson for Gates indicated
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  Speaker 1: that he planned to testify before the committee. Gates welcomes
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to appear before the committee, the spokesperson told
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  Speaker 1: CBS News in a statement. While he never witnessed or
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  Speaker 1: participated in any of Epstein's illegal conduct, he's looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to answering all the committee's questions to support their important work. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: what a hero. What a white knight. What a savior.
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  Speaker 1: Give yourself a round of applause, Bill Gates. Meanwhile, this
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  Speaker 1: idiot has been lying about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: for all these years. But all of a sudden, he's
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  Speaker 1: just so sorry and he wants to come clean. Jennifer Connelly,
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  Speaker 1: a spokesperson for Rumler, told CBS News that Rumler welcomes
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to appear before the committee. At the time
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  Speaker 1: she interacted with Jeffrey Epstein, she was a practicing criminal
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  Speaker 1: defense attorney and shared a client with him. The spokesperson
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  Speaker 1: said she has done nothing wrong and had no knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of any ongoing criminal activity on his part. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about her earlier, so we're just going to keep
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  Speaker 1: it moving. It's very obvious that Rumler was very much
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  Speaker 1: closer to Jeffrey Epstein than she ever let on and
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  Speaker 1: that she's been lying about her relationship to him for
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  Speaker 1: all these years. An attorney for Groff said she had
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  Speaker 1: no comment on the letter. Oh, I bet not. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I highly doubt that Leslie Groff wants anything
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  Speaker 1: to do with being under oath when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. Considering how she benefited and how she grew
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  Speaker 1: her wealth on the back of pain and suffering, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be pretty scared if I was her too. And I
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  Speaker 1: think there are mountains of evidence, circumstantial and otherwise, that
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  Speaker 1: would easily lead to a grand jury indicting Leslie Groff
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  Speaker 1: and Sarah Kellan. CBS News also reached out to Black, Band,
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  Speaker 1: and Waite for a comment and is attempting to contact Kellan.
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  Speaker 1: None of the seven have been criminally charged with wrongdoing
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  Speaker 1: in connection with Epstein. Nice little qualifier, but do you
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  Speaker 1: really think that's the case? Do you really think that
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  Speaker 1: none of them have been targeted? If that's the case,
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  Speaker 1: then why is Leslie Groff and Sarah Kellan Vickers protected
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  Speaker 1: under the NPA? And why did Judge Nathan call Sarah
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  Speaker 1: Kellen Vickers, a co-conspirator, an open court, so you can
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  Speaker 1: save your qualifiers when you're talking about Sarah Kellen Vickers.
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  Speaker 1: The House request comes after the Justice Department in December
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  Speaker 1: began the process of releasing millions of files related to
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  Speaker 1: its decades-long investigation into Epstein, a wealthy financier, pedophile, who
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  Speaker 1: was accused of running an extensive sex trafficking operation with
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell's aide. The two are believed to have victimized dozens
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  Speaker 1: of underage girls and women. Dozens? The Justice Department itself
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  Speaker 1: said over a thousand. Where do they get these numbers from? Yo,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to, like, be an expert in what's
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  Speaker 1: going on in the case, but you should at least
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  Speaker 1: have the very basics down, right? The Justice Department only
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  Speaker 1: released the files after Congress passed a bill in November
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  Speaker 1: signed into law by President Trump compelling it to do so.
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  Speaker 1: In 2008, Epstein pleaded guilty in Florida and the state
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  Speaker 1: charges of soliciting prostitution in exchange for having a federal
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  Speaker 1: case against him dropped. Charges for soliciting prostitution. Not soliciting
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  Speaker 1: prostitution from a child, right? Not abusing a child. Just
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  Speaker 1: soliciting prostitution. Yo, what's going on with CBS? Is Barry
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  Speaker 1: Weiss writing all these articles? Sure seems like it. A
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  Speaker 1: New York federal grand jury indicted Epstein on child sex
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  Speaker 1: trafficking charges in July of 2019. but he was found
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  Speaker 1: dead weeks later in August 2019 in a Manhattan jail.
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  Speaker 1: His cause of death was ruled a suicide. No questions
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  Speaker 1: about it, not alleged, not called, but ruled a suicide,
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  Speaker 1: so that's the end of it. Maxwell was convicted in
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  Speaker 1: 2021 of federal sex trafficking charges and later sentenced to
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  Speaker 1: 20 years in prison. The released files, however, have revealed
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  Speaker 1: the wealthy financier's deep connection to the rich and powerful,
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  Speaker 1: that persisted well after his Florida conviction. Last week, Gates
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  Speaker 1: apologized to the staff of his philanthropic Gates Foundation for
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  Speaker 1: his ties to Epstein, which he said began in 2011
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  Speaker 1: and continued through 2014. Imagine knowing what Jeffrey Epstein was
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  Speaker 1: and showing up to his house asking for money. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hey Jeff. I was wondering if you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to help me save the world. I know you abuse
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  Speaker 1: kids and shit, but we're going to overlook that. You
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  Speaker 1: got a couple mil for your boy? Like what? You
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  Speaker 1: don't have anybody else you can go and get money from? Nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Not one single person. I'm pretty sure there's some rich
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  Speaker 1: people out there that would love to help you out.
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  Speaker 1: Even if it's only for tax purposes. But Jeffrey Epstein?
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  Speaker 1: Bill Gates. Nobody believes you, buddy. According to audio of
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  Speaker 1: the apology obtained by the Wall Street Journal, Gates told
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  Speaker 1: staff he and Epstein shared a private jet together once
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  Speaker 1: and spent time in Germany, France, New York, and Washington.
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  Speaker 1: You know, hardly knew each other. I fly on jets
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  Speaker 1: with people all the time who I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm flying commercial, but that's not the point, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Included in the trove of DOJ files were two emails
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  Speaker 1: Epstein sent to himself on July 18th, 2013, containing unverified
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  Speaker 1: allegations that Gates had extramarital sex with Russian girls and
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  Speaker 1: that resulted in sexually transmitted disease requiring antibiotic treatment. In
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  Speaker 1: one email, Epstein claimed Gates also sought, surreptitiously, to give
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  Speaker 1: antibiotics to his then-wife, Melinda Gates. Well, that's weird, because
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  Speaker 1: he did admit that he had those affairs, right? So,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean, alleged? Pro tip, it's not alleged
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  Speaker 1: when it's proved to be a fact. The emails appeared
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  Speaker 1: to have been written by Epstein on behalf of an
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  Speaker 1: aggrieved employee of Gates who was resigning. Regarding those allegations,
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  Speaker 1: a Gates spokesman told CBS News in January that the
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  Speaker 1: claims are absolutely absurd and completely false. The only thing
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  Speaker 1: these documents demonstrate is Epstein's frustration that he did not
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  Speaker 1: have an ongoing relationship with Gates and the lengths he
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  Speaker 1: would go to entrap and defame him. At last week's
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  Speaker 1: town hall, according to the journal, Gates admitted that he
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  Speaker 1: did have affairs, one with a Russian bridge player, who
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  Speaker 1: he met at bridge events, and one with a Russian
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  Speaker 1: nuclear physicist, who I met through business activities. So he
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  Speaker 1: was lying, okay? Just like he's been lying about everything
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  Speaker 1: that has to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And if you
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  Speaker 1: want to believe him, cool. I don't care. Personally, I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe the guy at all. Catherine Rumler wrote that
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  Speaker 1: she adored Epstein. Rumler served as the White House Counselor,
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  Speaker 1: under Obama from 2011 to 2014, before joining the law
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  Speaker 1: firm Latham & Watkins in 2014, and then Goldman Sachs
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  Speaker 1: in 2020. Rumler appeared several times in the Justice Department's
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  Speaker 1: release files, including a December 2015 email exchange in which
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  Speaker 1: she wrote that she adored Epstein. How cute. What a
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  Speaker 1: great cute couple. Helicopters, volcanoes. In May of 2015, Epstein
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  Speaker 1: asked Rumler if she could get filmmaker Woody Allen and
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  Speaker 1: his wife Soon-Yi a tour of the White House, which
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  Speaker 1: took place in December 2015, according to White House records.
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  Speaker 1: Last month, Rumler announced she would resign from her role
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  Speaker 1: as top lawyer for Goldman Sachs in the wake of
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  Speaker 1: the release files. Well, the least you could do. Imagine
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  Speaker 1: being one of her colleagues over at Goldman Sachs. Pretty
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  Speaker 1: awkward conversation. at the coffee machine. So, uh, Kathy, get
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  Speaker 1: any chicken noodle soup from Uncle Jeffy lately? The DOJ's
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  Speaker 1: documents show that Black, co-founder of investment firm Apollo Global Management,
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  Speaker 1: received advice from Epstein on how to keep a six-year
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  Speaker 1: affair with a Russian woman from going public. In one
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  Speaker 1: September 2015 email, Epstein suggested to Black that he hire
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  Speaker 1: former law enforcement officers to approach the woman about signing
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  Speaker 1: a nondisclosure agreement. Choose method of message delivery, my choice,
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  Speaker 1: to highly respected former law enforcement agents, fill in the blank, immigration,
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  Speaker 1: Scotland Yard, SFO, who may knock on the door and
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  Speaker 1: present the terms, Epstein wrote. In October of 2015, the
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  Speaker 1: woman signed a non-disclosure agreement with Black in which he
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  Speaker 1: agreed to pay her $ 100, 000 monthly for 15 years. forgive
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  Speaker 1: a $ 1 million loan and provide 2 million British pounds
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  Speaker 1: for her to obtain legal status in the UK. Senate
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  Speaker 1: Finance Committee documents also show that Black paid Epstein $ 158
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  Speaker 1: million for tax and estate planning services. Black stepped down
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  Speaker 1: as chairman and CEO of Apollo in 2021. A law
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  Speaker 1: firm retained by Apollo's board to review Black's dealings with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein cleared Black of any possible wrongdoing. Well, he's been cleared.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump's been cleared by Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton's been
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  Speaker 1: cleared by Donald Trump. I guess we could just pack
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  Speaker 1: it in, huh? No need to have any subpoenas. No
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  Speaker 1: need for an investigation. I mean, I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: you're laughing. Have you checked the Dow? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: under 50,000. So that means we can talk about Epstein again, right?
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't that the barometer that was set by Pam Bondi? Now,
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  Speaker 1: as far as these subpoenas, look, it's a good step, right?
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  Speaker 1: But I have my doubts about what we're going to learn.
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  Speaker 1: Have you learned anything new from any of these depositions yet?
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  Speaker 1: I know I haven't. But with that said, we'll keep
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  Speaker 1: an open mind and we'll see what happens. And when
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  Speaker 1: we have some concrete dates for all these people, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get those added to the catalog as well. All right, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this one. All the
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