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Football at Four: Unpacking Eagles Loss to the 49ers the Day After · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: When a season ends, everybody starts to air out their grievances.
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Speaker 2: Here he starts to snitch. He's doing some snitch. Who's
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Speaker 2: the snitch? Right? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher was in the locker room today at the
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Speaker 1: Novacare Complex, And of course you can hear more on
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Speaker 1: the Inside of the Birds podcast, which you can get
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Speaker 1: on all podcasting platforms, and he joins us right now
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Speaker 1: for today's football at four Motion today. That you know,
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Speaker 1: I think most people thought the Eagles would probably ugly
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Speaker 1: win this game. They're at home, it's a banged up
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Speaker 1: Niner team. We thought it would be an ugly game.
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Speaker 1: It was ugly, but a loss. Now, there's so many questions.
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Speaker 1: The first question, I guess would be when you look
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Speaker 1: at that team and why they lost, is it as
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Speaker 1: simple as they were out coached, they were out schemed,
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Speaker 1: or is there a bigger problem here?
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Speaker 3: Well, yes and yes, I mean I absolutely believe they
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Speaker 3: were out coach. Now schemed, I'm surprised that I would
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Speaker 3: add Vick Fanzeos to that list of coaches who was
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Speaker 3: out coached. He has not been out couching very often
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Speaker 3: since we've been in Philadelphia. I mean, you can certainly say,
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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan, with a whole lot less to work with,
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Speaker 3: got the best of him and got some big plays
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Speaker 3: off But also to your question on the other part,
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Speaker 3: the lack of offense that we've seen is part of a
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Speaker 3: broader problem that wasn't just a against the San Francisco
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Speaker 3: forty nine forty nine ers issue. It's something we've seen
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Speaker 3: all year long.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, okay, so let's start with a couple of
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Speaker 1: things here, Nick Sirianni, I certainly don't see a well,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say I don't see a scenario
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Speaker 1: because I think we can talk about a scenario that
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Speaker 1: I see. How much culpability do you put it him
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Speaker 1: for what happened yesterday and really and really this season?
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Speaker 3: Jeff Yeah, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean he's coming off of a super Bowl. He's been
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs five years in a row. He's been
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Speaker 1: to two super Bowls, He's one one. He's a really
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Speaker 1: hard guy to quantify. There's a lot of people that say,
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Speaker 1: what does he do? You know, you can move on
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Speaker 1: from him, but in a season like this, how does
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Loriie look at this season?
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey lear is gonna want answers who is gonna want
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Speaker 3: to know where it went wrong and why his offense
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Speaker 3: that is the highest hid offense in the league can
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Speaker 3: produced points. And I'm sure Kevin Petulo is going to
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Speaker 3: come up with it.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: I was in the locker room today and obviously there
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Speaker 3: was a lot of discussion from the from Jordan Malotta,
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Speaker 3: himself and Barkley on on player accountability and responsibility. I
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Speaker 3: don't think it's anybody's fault from a coaching standpoint that
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Speaker 3: this offensive line wasn't elite. I think that's a huge
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Speaker 3: reason by offensively they weren't at least where they were
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Speaker 3: at last year. But it is fair to say over
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Speaker 3: the last two years offensively, Mike, they have not been
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Speaker 3: what you expect from a team that has as many playmakers.
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Speaker 3: So that makes it more than just a Kevin Patulo issue.
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Speaker 3: It makes him within one person, and it just invites
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Speaker 3: that discussion about the scheme or the quarterback or a
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Speaker 3: combination of both. Does the scheme isn't that way because
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Speaker 3: of the quarterback and vice versa.
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Speaker 1: Well, I asked that question because I could see a
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Speaker 1: scenario with Nick, and again I'm not a Nick hater.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate what he's done.
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Speaker 1: But I could see Jeffrey Lourie saying, look, this league
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Speaker 1: moves fast. Things evolve, and we're not evolving with the league.
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Speaker 1: We got a Super Bowl, we've been to a Super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: we had a great five year run, but we want
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Speaker 1: to be five years ahead of being five years ahead.
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Speaker 1: We might need to evolve at the most important position.
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Speaker 1: Do you see that being something that he is possibly
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Speaker 1: going through.
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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I can understand why that sentiment would
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Speaker 3: be around. I mean, he certainly fired Doug Peterson just
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Speaker 3: a few years removed from winning the franchises for a
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and we know that they're when expectations aren't met.
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Speaker 3: The Eagles and a track record of firing coaches, mostly
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Speaker 3: assistant coaches, even in seasons where they win ten, eleven,
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Speaker 3: twelve games or go into the playoffs. So I understand
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Speaker 3: that sentiment, but I don't think it's Sirianni all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden is throwing away all the good things, and
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Speaker 3: it Surianni does as a head coach, and then we
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Speaker 3: started hitting the reset button. I would imagine that the
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Speaker 3: discussions are about fixing what the issue is and finding
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Speaker 3: the right people.
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Speaker 1: Well do that, and that's Why I say that because
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Speaker 1: Lourie could say, Hey, this is five years we keep
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Speaker 1: asking what's wrong with this offense? You know, it's okay,
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Speaker 1: we keep finding ways to win, that's cool, but we
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Speaker 1: really evolving this offense where we're going to have in
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Speaker 1: this discussion again next year. And I guess what the
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Speaker 1: next part of this is Kevin Batullo, who most likely
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Speaker 1: will not be here, but just the next guy have
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Speaker 1: to run Knicks offense. Does Nick say, well, if you
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Speaker 1: fire him, I you know that's not happening. Like there's
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Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot that can happen.
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Speaker 2: You're like, let's.
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Speaker 1: Say yea, Allie Roseman says, hey, Mike mcdanne, do you
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Speaker 1: want to come here? And he says yeah, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not running Nicks offense. Like if that starts to be
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Speaker 1: a problem, does Laurie say, if that becomes a problem,
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Speaker 1: I gotta do something here.
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Speaker 3: Right, There's been no indication to me or anything that
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Speaker 3: I've seen or heard that the Eagles are going to
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Speaker 3: radically change their oftimes. If anything. You know, they've made
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Speaker 3: some advancements last year, right and now this past year
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Speaker 3: just in the passing game that we saw kind of intermittently.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I was at the locker room today
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Speaker 3: and Joe Hurts was talking about home base and the
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Speaker 3: comfort zone and sort of making sure that they they
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Speaker 3: stay in that comfort zone. So nothing I've heard at
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Speaker 3: all this year makes me think that they're going to
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Speaker 3: change the philosophy. Even talk to Sapon about this, a
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Speaker 3: little bit of run the ball, mix eleven and twelve personnel,
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Speaker 3: balance your offense, don't turn the ball over and that
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Speaker 3: typically will when you way more games than you lose,
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Speaker 3: and they want to get back to that level. So
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Speaker 3: you make a good point. And I think now there's
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Speaker 3: a larger sample size of this because we've seen two
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Speaker 3: people too low. We've seen Kellen Moore, right, or even
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Speaker 3: Brian Johnson to a degree, kind of become this offensive coordinator,
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Speaker 3: take the job, but basically run in the same offense
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Speaker 3: that has been in place. Nick Sirianni got in here.
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Speaker 3: The book's out now, so you brought up in a great,
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Speaker 3: great pay Mike McDaniel. Someone like that is going to
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Speaker 3: have to come here and willingly accept doing offense the
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Speaker 3: way the Eagles do offense as opposed to maybe how
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Speaker 3: they do offense, and that doesn't necessarily make it impossible.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a good offensive coordinator and you're
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Speaker 3: down to elasti sport like Kelling Moore, right, he'll tell it.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's where I wondered if Laurie says I've had
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Speaker 1: enough of your offense.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Like, that's where like I'm wondering if he looks at
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Speaker 1: it and says, look, the league's evolving, things are moving fast,
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Speaker 1: and we're still stuck in the same offense we were
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Speaker 1: running for five years. We've got to do something about that.
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Speaker 1: And then as Nick say, well, no, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to do that, and there's the rubber meet the road
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Speaker 1: in Peterson's style.
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Speaker 3: There, I think you're maybe projecting how Lurie might feel
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Speaker 3: about this offense over a longer course of time, when
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Speaker 3: I don't know that Jeffrey had ill feelings about last
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Speaker 3: year's offense, because even though it wasn't a passing offense
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Speaker 3: and it struggled the times, it certainly rendered a lot
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Speaker 3: of explosive plays. And if you ask Jeffrey Lowery for
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Speaker 3: people in that front office, especially, what do they value.
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Speaker 3: It's explosive plays. Who cares about the pass or a run?
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Speaker 3: If you're getting twenty thirty forty to fifty yard plays,
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Speaker 3: you're moving the ball, you're scoring, and you're making it
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Speaker 3: difficult on your opponent. And they certainly had a lot
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Speaker 3: of those two years ago with Saint Toom Barclays. So
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Speaker 3: I think if you were to tell Jeffery Laurie that
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Speaker 3: you're going to get back in twenty twenty six, he's
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Speaker 3: gonna be okay with that.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Bosher from the Inside the Birds podcast Adam Schefter
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Speaker 1: said this morning on Get Up quote, when you speak
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Speaker 1: to people around the league, they expect there to be
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Speaker 1: mass changes there to jump start the offense. So you're
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Speaker 1: going looking at a new coordinator next year. That's the
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Speaker 1: expectation across the league. I would imagine this is a
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Speaker 1: pretty attractive job. We were talking about this earlier. You
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Speaker 1: got aj Brown and DeVante Smith, where you got DeMarcus
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Speaker 1: Robinson and Juwan Jennings, you probably would take the Eagles crew.
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Speaker 1: So I guess the question is why had they had
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Speaker 1: such problems jump starting their offense with those two players?
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Speaker 1: And then you see DeMarcus Robinson and Juwan Jennings, probably
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Speaker 1: lesser talents, but being more productive.
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Speaker 3: Man objection you're on our leading the witness, but it's
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Speaker 3: like you're trying to get me to say something about
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Speaker 3: the quarterback where the head coach is here. I mean,
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Speaker 3: clearly they don't run Kyle Shanahan's offense, right, That's why
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Speaker 3: it looks a lot different, and it hasn't been. That's
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Speaker 3: why they can't throw a fullback out there like Cam
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Speaker 3: Lauson and get four catches in forty nine yards whatever
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Speaker 3: you should have got there. They're just different coordinator. And
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Speaker 3: here's the issue. And I'm Mike, I'm gonna, I'm going
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Speaker 3: to I pushed back on you for the whole year
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Speaker 3: about something, but I had some clarity over it over
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Speaker 3: the last two or three weeks. All right, Yeah, And
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Speaker 3: you said all along, you can't hire a coordinator without
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Speaker 3: play calling experience for this team because it's built to
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Speaker 3: win and it needs to guy to win now. And
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Speaker 3: I said, well, you're not. I've always said I think
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Speaker 3: that's n fair. You're never going to give a guy
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Speaker 3: a chance to grow, and that you can't always get
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Speaker 3: a proven playfaller. But the more I've thought about it,
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Speaker 3: the more I think the Eagles are a unique situation
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Speaker 3: in which their offensive head coach is not an offensive
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Speaker 3: play caller. He wasn't in Indianapolis, and he hasn't been
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Speaker 3: here outside of the first few games of his first year,
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Speaker 3: and then he immediately said he wasn't good at it
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Speaker 3: and gave it to shame stiching. So most oftive head
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Speaker 3: coaches who have a young coordinator right who may not
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Speaker 3: have call players, can at least nurture that guy. Maybe
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Speaker 3: they call him plays for year before handing it over,
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Speaker 3: or if that guy's inn run, they assume the play
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Speaker 3: following from for a little bit. But Dick Sirianni is
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Speaker 3: incapable of doing that. I mean, he's just not so
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Speaker 3: now that I've seen this and had some clarity on it,
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Speaker 3: I have to agree with you. I don't think he
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Speaker 3: can afford to higher any body other than a veteran
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Speaker 3: playfaller with proven play following experience. But that puts a
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Speaker 3: whole lot of pressure on him in the front office
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Speaker 3: because he's just not sure every year that guy's going
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Speaker 3: to be around, and then that guy's gonna want to
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Speaker 3: come in and run your offense well.
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Speaker 1: And then the problem most that they run into is
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Speaker 1: you bring in a young, innovative play caller like a
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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel or you know whoever. Like, let's say they're
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Speaker 1: looking they don't get one a job.
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Speaker 2: In the cycle.
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Speaker 1: Well they end up happening is you're right back to
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Speaker 1: square one and you're changing the offense again with another
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Speaker 1: play caller. So you've got to try to find someone
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Speaker 1: who's not got one foot out the door.
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Speaker 2: And that's a hard way to do it.
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Speaker 1: And that's why I wonder if the Eagles are looking
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Speaker 1: at this and saying, what's the endgame here? Have to
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Speaker 1: keep hinding a new Cortator every other year? Like that's
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Speaker 1: not fair to Hurt either.
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Speaker 3: It's not. Although if you're theoretically running the same offense,
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Speaker 3: which they have, honestly, it shouldn't be all that difficult.
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Speaker 3: It just becomes the maybea a beage thing.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: You know, I remember when dealing Hurt said, was it
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Speaker 3: when they are killing Moore that like seventy five percent
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Speaker 3: of the offense was new and that made some headlines
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Speaker 3: and it was right, that's what Telebo tried to run.
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Speaker 3: And then you know, like five weeks into the season,
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Speaker 3: they're back running you know, the Eagles offense. So that
11:35
Speaker 3: stuff will work itself out over the time. I mean,
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Speaker 3: if you're winning super Bowls and winning you know, once
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Speaker 3: every two or three years, you're making deep playoff runs
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Speaker 3: and winning your division a lot like you'll deal with
11:47
Speaker 3: some of these unique roadblocks of course that you face
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Speaker 3: because it beats the alternative of trying to find new
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Speaker 3: head coaches and may have better schemes and better playholders,
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Speaker 3: but and they duplicate the success mixture. Reality is that
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Speaker 3: that that to become his own last game?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because you know, Siria, I was a
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Speaker 1: play card. They were two and five. I was looking
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Speaker 1: at it the other day. So the eighth game of
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Speaker 1: that season, he gave up the play calling. They scored
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Speaker 1: forty points in a game against the Lions, and then
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Speaker 1: they took off the win. Their offensive line has really
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Speaker 1: been the springboard to the success they've had. Now, the
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Speaker 1: offensive line struggled this year, wasn't the same, But how
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Speaker 1: much of the offense Because when Nick was the play caller, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: he was throwing the ball all over the yard. They
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Speaker 1: were throwing about like thirty five forty times a game.
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Speaker 1: So now he scales it back to what it's now become.
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Speaker 1: Is that because he truly trust the run game and
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Speaker 1: he wants to be that or does he not trust
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Speaker 1: this quarterback?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I head coaches always going to cater
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Speaker 3: to his strengths and try to limit to the weaknesses
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Speaker 3: of his team. Right, he learned early you don't want
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Speaker 3: to throw the ball forty times, especially at that point
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Speaker 3: in Jillen Hurts's career. But I'm thinking discovered a long
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Speaker 3: way that they don't want Jillen Hurts to drop back
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Speaker 3: forty times the game. Some coaches are fine with their
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Speaker 3: quarterback during that. Matthew Stafford doesn't nobody pass the islands, right,
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Speaker 3: They don't want that. They have a good offensive line.
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Speaker 3: They built the team around the running backs, you know,
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Speaker 3: obviously bringing in say Plump, one of the best. The
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Speaker 3: most part, they've had some tight ends. I got it's
13:16
Speaker 3: been a pretty good blots and tight end. It's falling
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Speaker 3: off wet bit for him end Calcaterras, and that's an
13:22
Speaker 3: area they're likely to address. But that's the reason is
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Speaker 3: that they believe this is the best style and scheme
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Speaker 3: of offense to run for the personnel that they have.
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Speaker 3: And one loss in a wildcard game stinks, But they're
13:40
Speaker 3: gonna look at the bigger picture and see what they've
13:43
Speaker 3: accomplished over five years, and they're only going to double
13:46
Speaker 3: down and be reinforced that they just have to fix
13:49
Speaker 3: the areas that this year.
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Speaker 2: I would ask you this.
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Speaker 1: Then one loss in a wildcard game is fair to say.
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Speaker 1: But this was an eighteen week slog of offense.
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Speaker 2: Sure, yes or no?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I said they're going to fix. Look,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I had this conversation with Jordani
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Speaker 3: Lanta other day before like all the reporters came around.
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Speaker 3: We were just kind of talking about the physical toll
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Speaker 3: of last year of running the ball so much, all
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Speaker 3: the twitch pushes. Did that have any correlation to the
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Speaker 3: just the physicality or the mistakes made on the offensive line.
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Speaker 3: And he couldn't say yes or no. You know, he said,
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Speaker 3: it's some interesting thought, and you know, and I said, look,
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Speaker 3: if you guys were at peak helf next year. And
14:32
Speaker 3: when I said peak help, you know, I even said
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Speaker 3: this to him. I said, under peak health, meaning yes,
14:36
Speaker 3: get the pumps and bruises that everybody gets by week eighteen,
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Speaker 3: but in general, you're feeling like you normally feel, are
14:42
Speaker 3: you guys just back to being the offensive were last year,
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Speaker 3: and he said, I hope, but I don't know, you know,
14:50
Speaker 3: like it was a combination of things. It was. He
14:52
Speaker 3: didn't mention defension, did thing differently against them this year, slanting, stunting,
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Speaker 3: all getting hitting linebackers going downhill against the rug So
15:03
Speaker 3: there were two things working against them, the helping the
15:05
Speaker 3: line and the fact that they were the hunted every
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Speaker 3: single week from winning the Super Bowl. So it's hard
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Speaker 3: to sit here and say they're going to make this
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Speaker 3: whole sale philosophical change on offense when they probably just
15:18
Speaker 3: feel more health and allude bit more. Now they get
15:21
Speaker 3: to make the CounterPunch. Now, if they've seen how people
15:23
Speaker 3: are have CounterPunch to them, it's probably what their response is.
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Speaker 1: Going to be. Jalen Hurts today did not give a
15:30
Speaker 1: ringing endorsement. What did you think of the question that
15:32
Speaker 1: was asked about Patula coming back and how he answered it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly know, I feel like there's some disingenuousness
15:41
Speaker 3: coming from jail. And like Saint Quon Barkley takes accountability.
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Speaker 3: You know, he actually will pinpoint isolate arias that he
15:49
Speaker 3: thinks he did fail the team and not Sometimes people say, yeah,
15:52
Speaker 3: it's on me, but they don't they don't mean it,
15:54
Speaker 3: or they're just trying to be like a good team. Say,
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Speaker 3: Quan kind of detailed some areas of engay that he
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Speaker 3: felt he didn't do a great job off this year,
16:03
Speaker 3: took accountability and then said it was really unfair that
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Speaker 3: Petullo had to take all the blame. And I just said, all along,
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Speaker 3: he is the only evil sponhouse coordinator under this Sirianni
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Speaker 3: to not have a running game, and that's got matter
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Speaker 3: for something. I know he's gonna probably gonna get fired,
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Speaker 3: and I know he didn't do a good job, but
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Speaker 3: it has to matter for something. But you know, first
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Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I take accountability, Well what about Ken
16:26
Speaker 3: Petula's job security? Interesting how we to figure it out?
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Speaker 3: But I don't know there was some disingenuousness enemy, because
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Speaker 3: if he's really taking accountability, he's gonna say where he's
16:37
Speaker 3: been deficient and what he needs to get better at,
16:39
Speaker 3: and then he's gonna do it. And honestly, he's made
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Speaker 3: I didn't think he made strives as the Passion this year, certainly,
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Speaker 3: but I don't feel like in his mind he's coming on.
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Speaker 3: He feels like he's any part of the problem at all,
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Speaker 3: and I'm not quite sure that that's a fair assessment
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Speaker 3: on his part.
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Speaker 2: I would agree that's a fair comment.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher inside the Birds podcast, because hey, listen, you
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Speaker 1: can make a strong argument that AJ that Jalen made
17:05
Speaker 1: a couple of throws they did not catch the ball.
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Speaker 1: That game might have been different. Had Davonte made that
17:10
Speaker 1: catch or AJ made that catch, we might be having
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Speaker 1: a conversation about another ugly win today had those balls
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Speaker 1: been caught.
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Speaker 2: That he made some pretty good throws.
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Speaker 3: On Yeah, yeah, I thought, you know, I didn't come
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Speaker 3: out of yesterday's game thinking, man, Jalen really blewish for them.
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Speaker 3: It really didn't, you know, And I generally think he's
17:29
Speaker 3: made more high level throws this year and the other year,
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Speaker 3: which is why I feel like, you know, there's really
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Speaker 3: no no need to respond to the questions the what
17:38
Speaker 3: he does. You can just say he's being honest. But
17:41
Speaker 3: you know, I think Saint Paul Parkley was being honest.
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Speaker 3: So I just felt like even if guy under the bus,
17:48
Speaker 3: when you know, you have to know that it wasn't
17:50
Speaker 3: Paul on one guy that's.
17:52
Speaker 2: Really to me key was AJ there today.
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Speaker 3: Now he'll be shocked to learn he was not. That
18:00
Speaker 3: was not in the thought.
18:01
Speaker 2: I figured he had an empty at his locker at some.
18:03
Speaker 3: Point, at some point. Does not to me today.
18:09
Speaker 1: So do you have any feel one way or the
18:13
Speaker 1: other whether there would be any legitimatey legitimacy that AJ
18:17
Speaker 1: Brown would not be back?
18:21
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's it's certainly a legitimate question, absolutely,
18:24
Speaker 3: you know the one Interestingly, Jalen said he smoked to
18:27
Speaker 3: AJ and they're in a great space. Okay, Uh, Jalen
18:32
Speaker 3: may have some tropical land in Montana. He's trying to
18:34
Speaker 3: sell us as well. So we'll say, I don't know.
18:37
Speaker 3: I mean, if if A. J. Brown is in a
18:39
Speaker 3: great space, then I would actually like to see what
18:41
Speaker 3: it looks like when someone's really in a great space,
18:44
Speaker 3: because he doesn't look like he's someone in a great space.
18:46
Speaker 3: His body language is doing the talking and and uh,
18:49
Speaker 3: you know, listen, we can't get this is it's only
18:52
Speaker 3: speculation where it's for me, a coach, you or or
18:56
Speaker 3: a listener. Right, but like sure to me, like how
19:00
Speaker 3: he feels about the offense and about the environment in
19:02
Speaker 3: general reflected in his game. He had some nice games,
19:06
Speaker 3: but he also dropped some passes he ordinarily normally catches,
19:09
Speaker 3: and there are just way too many instances of him
19:11
Speaker 3: just not going after a ball that you think he
19:14
Speaker 3: would go after. So I think this thing is not
19:17
Speaker 3: going to It's not going to fish stagnant. There's either
19:20
Speaker 3: going to be a real long meeting of the mind's
19:23
Speaker 3: discussion and he's going to be involved with it. He's
19:26
Speaker 3: gonna have to make some own some personality and attue changes,
19:29
Speaker 3: or we might be looking at the Eagles figuring out
19:33
Speaker 3: a way to get him traded off the books and
19:35
Speaker 3: you know, see what happens there.
19:37
Speaker 1: All right, Just a prediction. This isn't any reporting or
19:39
Speaker 1: anything a lot of changes offseason or running it backstyle.
19:51
Speaker 3: I mean, there's going to be a decent amount of change, sure,
19:54
Speaker 3: I mean I think that there's going to be again
19:56
Speaker 3: like that you said, opinion, not reporting. I don't think
20:00
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator is per Sae the only position on offense
20:05
Speaker 3: position coach that might see changed. There might be more
20:08
Speaker 3: than that. You know, we'll have to see if somebody retires,
20:14
Speaker 3: you know, And I have no indication that just Stoutlin
20:17
Speaker 3: or Vic Fangio are about to give it up. But
20:18
Speaker 3: they're not the they're not Spring chickens, right, so there
20:21
Speaker 3: could be something there. We obviously know the futures of
20:24
Speaker 3: Red blankenship of Nikobe Dean. During Jackson, there were three
20:30
Speaker 3: starters right are up in the air. Jalen Phillips Joe
20:35
Speaker 3: Philms did not, I think have a real huge impact
20:38
Speaker 3: over the last few games. You know, after a nice
20:41
Speaker 3: start unus, he's gonna probably command a lot of money.
20:43
Speaker 3: And I don't know how you feel about it, but
20:45
Speaker 3: I thought Jill Hunt was their most impactful head guy
20:47
Speaker 3: over there.
20:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely thought that Phillips.
20:49
Speaker 1: I thought Phillips kind of fizzled a little bit, didn't
20:52
Speaker 1: make a not like an impactful moment that that he
20:56
Speaker 1: kind of had there.
20:57
Speaker 2: You know what's.
20:57
Speaker 3: Interesting, I thought they were gonna have Party in the
20:59
Speaker 3: crowd like five times, Mike, I really did, you know?
21:03
Speaker 3: I credit party. I thought he navigated some money pockets
21:06
Speaker 3: pretty well, and he's a little better than me think,
21:09
Speaker 3: but still I thought they were gonna get to him more.
21:11
Speaker 2: I agree.
21:12
Speaker 1: It's funny because, uh, I we do a parlay bet
21:15
Speaker 1: where we have to do like a prop bet, and
21:17
Speaker 1: I bet Jalen Carter to get a sack. Now, he
21:19
Speaker 1: ended up getting the sack, but I did that because
21:21
Speaker 1: I thought they'd have five sacks and that he would
21:24
Speaker 1: just get like one and joined the party, not that
21:26
Speaker 1: he would get the only sack. You know. I'll tell
21:28
Speaker 1: you what motion what's interesting about this season, I'll get
21:31
Speaker 1: you out of here on this is if you said,
21:33
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, the Eagles lost, because man,
21:36
Speaker 1: you look back and they just couldn't you know, all
21:39
Speaker 1: the losses they had on defense, you know, losing Sweat
21:42
Speaker 1: and Milton Williams and Darius Slay and their defense. Now,
21:46
Speaker 1: their defense, I thought, you know, I'm not blaming them,
21:49
Speaker 1: but you know they lost. They let San Francisco, an
21:52
Speaker 1: under man San Francisco team go down the field and
21:54
Speaker 1: score on you yesterday in the fourth quarter in your building.
21:58
Speaker 1: So you got to look at that too. But if
22:00
Speaker 1: you said their defense just lost too many guys, not
22:04
Speaker 1: the offense, it brought back everybody was the problem. That's
22:07
Speaker 1: what's so perplexed about the season.
22:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not one person who would have predicted this,
22:12
Speaker 3: you know, unless they were just being a contrarian. There's
22:15
Speaker 3: not one person who would have thought this offense was
22:17
Speaker 3: going to be the thing that held the defense, that
22:19
Speaker 3: held the team back, and that the defense by the
22:21
Speaker 3: end of the year would be looking like the year before.
22:25
Speaker 3: But you're right, we can't. Even though the offense lost
22:29
Speaker 3: the season and the game. I will have a real
22:33
Speaker 3: struggle for the next week or two figuring out how
22:35
Speaker 3: this defense allowed to Marcus Robinson. What is he thirty
22:38
Speaker 3: six years old to get one hundred and.
22:42
Speaker 2: The number of the day.
22:43
Speaker 1: The stat of the day is that DeMarcus Robinson had
22:45
Speaker 1: more yards in the first quarter than he had in
22:46
Speaker 1: any game all season.
22:49
Speaker 3: I know, you shaid the fullback, you said, you chick,
22:52
Speaker 3: I always pronounced the wrong. He had more catches in
22:55
Speaker 3: that game than he had in any game this year. Also,
22:58
Speaker 3: I mean a fullback get any loose twenty seven yards?
23:01
Speaker 3: I think that was as long as catching the season.
23:03
Speaker 1: So I mean, come on, they accentuate the positives, man,
23:08
Speaker 1: and when they lost Kittle, they had a fine other ways.
23:10
Speaker 1: And let's they just do a really good job of
23:13
Speaker 1: saying we're under manned. Let's accentuate who we have left,
23:17
Speaker 1: and the Eagles don't. But the Eagles don't do a
23:21
Speaker 1: very good job at saying this is who we have
23:23
Speaker 1: let's accentuate them. Jeff Boscher in the inside of the
23:25
Speaker 1: Birds crew and Eagles season is in the books, but
23:28
Speaker 1: now we have so much more for football at four.
23:31
Speaker 1: Putting this team back together again, Humpty dumpty. And we'll
23:34
Speaker 1: do that here right here on the Sports Bash ninety
23:37
Speaker 1: seven to three ESPN. All right, Boch, I can't wait
23:40
Speaker 1: to see what happens by Wednesday.
23:42
Speaker 3: That bros. It would be fun.