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Chuck & Buck 11-19 Hour 4: Jerry Dipoto, Al Kinisky and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Down the right field line, Naylor makes the catch, doubles
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Speaker 1: it off, and that's.
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Speaker 2: The ball game.
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Speaker 1: Nine o'clock hour. Here on this Wednesday, Chuck Bow, former
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Speaker 1: Mariner Bucky Jacobs, and Ashley Ryan with you, and it's
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Speaker 1: great to have on the program. Haven't chatted with them
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Speaker 1: in a while. The president of baseball operations for your
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Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners, Jerry Depoto, joins us here on Chuck and Buck.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir, Good morning guys. How you doing or great?
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Speaker 3: We are great.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for being with us, so we
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. By the way, I just gave your name
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Speaker 1: just a quick Google and it's still first as American
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Speaker 1: baseball player. Do you like that or do you want
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Speaker 1: them to say president?
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Speaker 2: You know I am American.
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Speaker 4: I guess that it was American or what American was
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Speaker 4: baseball player?
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Speaker 3: Right, something like that.
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Speaker 1: It's still a Google still recognizing you as ballplayer first
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Speaker 1: over executive, So very interesting discovery here this morning. Let
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Speaker 1: me first just say, before we get into anything about
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Speaker 1: the offseason, congratulations on your twenty twenty five season.
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Speaker 3: And I know that you didn't win the Ultimate.
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Speaker 1: Prize, but I got to believe that you're pretty proud
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Speaker 1: of your organization, your staff for what was a wonderful
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Speaker 1: ride in a very successful campaign.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean just after the season ended,
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Speaker 4: it was a little tough to digest for all of us.
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Speaker 4: But now as we step away from it, I think
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Speaker 4: we have a great appreciation for what we were able
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Speaker 4: to accomplish. Won a division championship, came within eight outs
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Speaker 4: of a World Series, and we can all be proud
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Speaker 4: of that, and it's a starting point for where we
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Speaker 4: go in twenty six.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is just the starting point, I agree, And
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Speaker 5: yet it was it was a tough pill to swallow
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Speaker 5: for all of us that we're here rooting you guys on.
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Speaker 5: But to me to some degree, yesterday was kind of
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Speaker 5: almost the period or the exclamation point on the end
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Speaker 5: of the season, the signing of Naylor. So congrats on
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Speaker 5: getting that done and obviously that was priority number one.
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Speaker 5: How How long were you guys working on this? How
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Speaker 5: close was it up until we actually got the news
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Speaker 5: yesterday the day before you.
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Speaker 4: Know, we we've it's been something on our minds since
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Speaker 4: before we even acquired Josh. You know, as we were
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Speaker 4: going through the discussions with Arizona to make that deal
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Speaker 4: we always talk about, you know, how we can govern
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Speaker 4: the long term, and this was something we were interested in.
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Speaker 4: And then you know, lo and behold he played even
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Speaker 4: better than we could have hoped.
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Speaker 2: And you know.
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Speaker 4: The rare all star hitter who thrives in our ballpark
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Speaker 4: and just loves hitting there and and and it shows.
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Speaker 4: So h you know, shortly after the series ended in Toronto,
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Speaker 4: we we got together with Josh's representatives and and started
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Speaker 4: working through the details on a on a contract, made
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Speaker 4: an offer, got on a plane, went down and visited
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Speaker 4: with with Josh and his family and walked him through
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Speaker 4: kind of what we do. You know, he wasn't with
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Speaker 4: us throughout, you know, like so many of our guys,
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Speaker 4: you know, Cal Julio, George Logan, et cetera. Josh joined
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Speaker 4: us in July, so we walked him through what we do,
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Speaker 4: how we got here. I think he had a pretty
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Speaker 4: good sense for who we were from the time we
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Speaker 4: all spent together, and she had a natural comfort and
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Speaker 4: from there it came together. Kai didn't take two weeks
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Speaker 4: or thereabout to get from beginning to end, which I
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Speaker 4: think speaks to first how aggressive we were and how
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Speaker 4: much he wanted to be here and it was a
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Speaker 4: pretty good intersection.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a significant salary, a significant length of contract.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you had to convince John Stanton to
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Speaker 1: make this move or ownership, but if you did, what
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Speaker 1: how are you selling we have to keep Josh Naylor
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Speaker 1: to anybody that's.
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Speaker 4: Uncertain, you know, he does just about everything on the field.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty telling, you know it just
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Speaker 4: hopping on the line, that the intro was Josh making
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Speaker 4: a defensive play down the line and then doubling someone off.
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Speaker 4: That's that's for a guy who's probably more known for
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Speaker 4: his bat or his wheels. You know, he does he
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Speaker 4: does everything. You know, it's a he has a great
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Speaker 4: instinct on the field. He has a great way of
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Speaker 4: interacting with his teammates, He has leadership skills, he connects
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Speaker 4: with fans. He hits, he hits, really he is about
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Speaker 4: a well balanced A hit or he takes his walk.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't strike out much. He has power. He's been
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Speaker 4: a run producer throughout his career, and you know, it's
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Speaker 4: it's tough to really bang a hole in it. He's
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Speaker 4: a twenty year old for twenty eight year old free agent,
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Speaker 4: which is also you know, a pretty rare thing. So
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Speaker 4: it was very easy conversation to have with with everybody involved,
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Speaker 4: especially John, because you know, he saw what Josh provided
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Speaker 4: us in all those areas over the course of the
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Speaker 4: last half of the season. And and I will say
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Speaker 4: this about John and our ownership group in general. They
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Speaker 4: love the team and they love our players, you know.
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Speaker 4: And and by the end of the season, Josh wasn't
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Speaker 4: an acquisition at the deadline. He was a Mariner, and
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Speaker 4: I think that was important for all of us to maintain.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I have nicknamed Naylor Thicky Henderson. Uh,
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Speaker 1: in case you want to run with that around the office.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep that one in my dad. I don't,
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Speaker 2: I don't when you get killed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 5: He also busted out yesterday, Jerry the round mound of
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Speaker 5: the Puget sound.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 5: I'm like, maybe don't bring that one up at spring training.
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Speaker 5: I thought that maybe what want to avoid that one?
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Speaker 5: I like the Jimmy nails. Apparently that's what he gets
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Speaker 5: a lot of times in the clubhouse.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 5: I mean, when we're we're talking about a guy like this,
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Speaker 5: I'm curious how you how you find out about a
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Speaker 5: guy's makeup obvious. You can watch stuff, you have people
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Speaker 5: that you know in other organizations and and you can
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Speaker 5: dive into stuff. But to me, the makeup of Naylor
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Speaker 5: is I've been saying for a couple of years, this
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Speaker 5: is a guy that I wanted you guys to go
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Speaker 5: out and get just because I think there's a grit
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Speaker 5: that he brings to the table. There's there's part of
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Speaker 5: that comes with a baseball IQ, which he obviously gets
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Speaker 5: not being very fleet of foot, but sniper in thirty
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Speaker 5: bags last year. That's something that happens between the years,
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Speaker 5: even more than with the legs. And so how is
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Speaker 5: your guys' philosophy in trying to dive into the person
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Speaker 5: beyond just the stats baseball player the stuff that anybody
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Speaker 5: can google.
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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of what you just said. It's
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Speaker 4: recon it's picking up the phone. It's calling people who've
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Speaker 4: played with them that you may have connection to. It's
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Speaker 4: asking our players what they think. It's it's visiting with
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Speaker 4: you know, in this case, probably not super helpful, visiting
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Speaker 4: with the team he's currently playing for, because I don't
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Speaker 4: know how you know reasonable you're going to get you
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Speaker 4: a description, But the guys in Arizona. We're of a
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Speaker 4: particularly close relationship with my Hayzen and Amil Sade and
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Speaker 4: and you know, Tory Lavulo and his crew are are
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Speaker 4: good with our people, and they had nothing but great
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Speaker 4: things to say about Josh and more importantly his time
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Speaker 4: in Cleveland.
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Speaker 2: Uh, he was there a long time.
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Speaker 4: You know, we also have good relationships with the people there,
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Speaker 4: and we're able to kind of get a better look
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Speaker 4: under the hood at what Josh was about. But even
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Speaker 4: just on the surface, the things that attracted us to
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Speaker 4: him in the first place, where is it intensity? The
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Speaker 4: IQ which if you watch him play, you know, for
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Speaker 4: any more than a day or two, it just jumps
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Speaker 4: out at you. And we needed a player who brought
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Speaker 4: a little edge, and we got so much more than
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Speaker 4: the edge.
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Speaker 2: You know, what he.
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Speaker 4: Does in terms of lifting teammates, you know, baseball education
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Speaker 4: in the clubhouse. It's he eats it and sleeps it
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Speaker 4: and drinks it and he can talk it. And his
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Speaker 4: teammates respect him because of what he puts into it
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Speaker 4: and how much he puts out.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 4: It's the effort level is extreme and he never lets up.
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Speaker 4: I think the way he would like to be, you know,
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Speaker 4: classified as a player I think is just as a winner.
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Speaker 4: And I could not agree more with that description of Josh.
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Speaker 4: He's he just brings it every day.
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Speaker 3: Got great fancy shoes too.
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Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto, American baseball player, is with us here on
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Speaker 3: Well, I know a lot of people think that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you've announced it that our priorities is try
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Speaker 1: to keep some of the guys that are our own.
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Speaker 3: That are entering into free agency.
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Speaker 1: I've been operating under the belief that that's probably Naylor
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Speaker 1: and then Polonco or Sworez, but justin kind of said
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Speaker 1: yesterday that maybe it's Polanco and Sworez. I mean, what
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Speaker 1: kind of chance are you going to give us that
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Speaker 1: all three of those guys.
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Speaker 3: Will be back in Mariner uniforms next year.
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Speaker 4: Well, a lot has to go right, you know, frankly,
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Speaker 4: for that to happen, and you know, including markets and
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Speaker 4: trends and forces working in our favor. But we would
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Speaker 4: love him all to be back. And you know, at
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Speaker 4: various stages in our season, each one of those guys
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Speaker 4: you could prop up as as a hero, and you know,
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Speaker 4: and I do think from beginning to end, Jorge Polanco's
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Speaker 4: season for us was really super underrated. And you know,
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Speaker 4: obviously the big hits in the postseason and and you know,
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Speaker 4: the things that he did in October were notable. But
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Speaker 4: you know, from from really opening day on, one of
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Speaker 4: the most consistent offensive players we had all year long.
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Speaker 4: High contact, didn't punch, it was he provided power. It
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Speaker 4: was about as well balanced left and right as you
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Speaker 4: could be. And he proved very good at handling the dhrol,
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Speaker 4: which isn't something a lot of guys naturally gravitate toward.
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Speaker 4: And you know, while Gino didn't hit for a high
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Speaker 4: average after we acquired him at the deadline, we know
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Speaker 4: what Gino brains, and he did deliver the pop and
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Speaker 4: more importantly, he delivers lead ship and he brings people together.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 4: But again a lot of things would have to go
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Speaker 4: right for us to keep the whole band together. But
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Speaker 4: we're going to do our best to make sure just
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Speaker 4: to make sure we continue to grow and get better
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Speaker 4: as a team, regardless of wood blocks in the door.
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Speaker 2: Next.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I think that's that's great to hear.
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Speaker 5: I think all Mariner fans are wanting you to grow
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Speaker 5: from where you're at last year, right, not just try
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Speaker 5: to stand patent. So that kind of brings me to
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Speaker 5: the idea of like a blueprint as much as you
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Speaker 5: can share with what it is that you're hoping you're
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Speaker 5: able to do. I mean, there is no salary cap
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Speaker 5: in baseball, but we all know that there's budgets that
10:35
Speaker 5: you were you were kind of told that you got
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Speaker 5: to have to work with. And so I am curious,
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Speaker 5: you know, after riding excuse me, the high of what
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Speaker 5: we all got to ride along with what you guys
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Speaker 5: did there. I mean, is the is the idea to
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Speaker 5: continue to move forward in the way of spending or
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Speaker 5: is it trying to stay the same or is it
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Speaker 5: trying to be creative and move some things around.
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Speaker 2: You know, we've been we've been moving forward for years.
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Speaker 4: I think we may not move forward at a pace
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Speaker 4: that that pleases every fan or listener, but we've grown our.
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Speaker 2: Payroll and that's impossible season. Yeah, it really is.
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Speaker 1: They don't spend enough money.
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Speaker 4: I'm guessing we're gonna come just a little shy of
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Speaker 4: the Dodgers, but you know, we'll continue to grow our payroll.
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Speaker 4: It's it's what we do and you know we've and
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Speaker 4: part of that is when you have you know, good
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Speaker 4: young players who are growing, they're in the arbitration system,
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Speaker 4: you know, obviously bringing in a free agent of Josh's status,
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Speaker 4: and we plan on continuing to play in the free
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Speaker 4: agent market and fill some some voids. But you know,
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Speaker 4: from a team building perspective, you know, I said at
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Speaker 4: the end of the season, our starting point for twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty six is where we finished twenty five, And we
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Speaker 4: finished twenty five with you know, the highest or second
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Speaker 4: highest payroll and the history of the franchise, depending on
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Speaker 4: where you put, uh, you know, the last dollar. It's
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Speaker 4: it's very close. But we are growing, we are aggressive,
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Speaker 4: we are looking to get better. We'd like to add
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Speaker 4: at least another bat to that lineup, and we really
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Speaker 4: want to beef up the bullpen.
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Speaker 2: And add to the middle and even the leverage arm.
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Speaker 4: If the possibility exists, and whether that's free agency, trade whatever,
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Speaker 4: We're just looking to add the best players we can.
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Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto is with us to isolate to a part
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Speaker 1: of that question and answer. I mean, you said at
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Speaker 1: the end of the year that we're probably going to
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Speaker 1: start next year with a payroll similar to the one
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Speaker 1: that we ended with, and of course that's not written
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Speaker 1: in stone. But when you spend eighteen and a half
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Speaker 1: million on one player, and you're also talking about trying
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Speaker 1: to keep Polanco and or Swore as as well, boy,
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Speaker 1: that money that really gets burned up rather quickly. So
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Speaker 1: I wanted to isolate the part of Bucky's question about
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Speaker 1: whether or not you feel like you might have to
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Speaker 1: move some money around, move a salary out in order
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Speaker 1: to create some of that leverage to add to the team.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it depends what we're adding. You know,
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Speaker 4: we're always open to any type of thought, but you know,
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Speaker 4: the idea of bringing the team back in some form
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Speaker 4: to what the twenty five team look like. Moving players
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Speaker 4: off kind of defeats that purpose. So we're very comfortable
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Speaker 4: with the level of talent that exists on our team.
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Speaker 4: I think as we sit here in the middle of November,
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Speaker 4: I do believe we're one of the most complete or
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Speaker 4: most talented teams in the American League. So pulling away
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Speaker 4: from that team would kind of defeat the purpose, which
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Speaker 4: is why I answered the question as I did, which
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Speaker 4: you know, market forces will have to get a little
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Speaker 4: lucky for all of that to work for us. But
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Speaker 4: you know, we were very comfortable with the depth that
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Speaker 4: we've created in our starting rotation. We like the way,
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Speaker 4: you know, our lineup looks. We do want to continue
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Speaker 4: to provide opportunity for young players. That's a foundational part
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Speaker 4: of what we do. And we have good young players,
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Speaker 4: so that balance. Striking that balance is important, you know,
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Speaker 4: which is why a guy like Korge is such a
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Speaker 4: pivotal guy in our lineup.
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Speaker 2: Last year.
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Speaker 4: He could do a little third, he could do some second,
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Speaker 4: and he could d eight. He's even now played some
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Speaker 4: first base and the switch hitter. That versatility allows us
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Speaker 4: to continue to develop a team, and you know, going
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Speaker 4: out and finding players that can do that is paramount
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Speaker 4: for us, and we'll continue to look whether it's Orge
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Speaker 4: or somebody else.
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Speaker 5: One of the things that I admire about how you
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Speaker 5: guys are trying to do it with if there is
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Speaker 5: some sort of a budget while you're increase in the
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Speaker 5: payroll and yet there's still is a is a threshold
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Speaker 5: probably that, like you said, you're going to be shy
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Speaker 5: of the Dodgers, probably the Mets. And yet one of
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Speaker 5: the things I've admired what you guys did with Julio,
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Speaker 5: what you've done with Cal, getting these guys to basically
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Speaker 5: you buy them out of some of their arbitration years
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Speaker 5: and you get some homegrown talent to stick around. Are
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Speaker 5: you guys working in that same d with the likes
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Speaker 5: of Logan Gilbert and George Kirby? Possibly, because you know
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Speaker 5: they're all both going to be getting pay raises, even
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Speaker 5: if it's just through arbitration. And yet the sooner you
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Speaker 5: guys can get them to kind of lock up with
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Speaker 5: their boy Cal and Julio and now Naylor, the probably
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Speaker 5: the less expensive they would be versus them waiting until
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Speaker 5: they become free agents as well, and.
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Speaker 2: We're always open to it.
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Speaker 4: The beauty of having really good players is that they
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Speaker 4: are going to get paid and if everything works out,
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Speaker 4: the team will win. And you know, we've had those
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Speaker 4: discussions with a variety of our players through the years.
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Speaker 4: You know, as you mentioned Cal, Julio, JP Crawford and
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Speaker 4: Andres Munoz, you know now Joss Naylor. We're not shy
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Speaker 4: about extending the players in our group. Luis Castillo got
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Speaker 4: a big one a couple of years ago, and it's
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Speaker 4: part of our roster building plan is to bring players in,
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Speaker 4: let them experience our market, play in our environment, and
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Speaker 4: once we get the feel for how they fit into
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Speaker 4: our baseball group and you know, the twenty five teammates,
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Speaker 4: the staff. When you get a player like Josh or
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Speaker 4: Cal or Julio who are fully embraced by the fan
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Speaker 4: base as well, that's when you know you hit a
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Speaker 4: homer and you know you do what you can to
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Speaker 4: get those players extended out for as long as you can,
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Speaker 4: and we'll continue to make that a part of how
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Speaker 4: we build our team.
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Speaker 1: President of Baseball Operations for the Seattle Mariners, Jerry Depoto,
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Speaker 1: our guests this morning. We appreciate the time. Certainly, I
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Speaker 1: do want to ask you because I read the names
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Speaker 1: Alex Hoppy I think that's how it's pronounced, and Robinson Ortiz.
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Speaker 1: Those are a couple of other moves that you've made
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Speaker 1: here in the last week, and I know baseball people
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Speaker 1: that are paying attention are like, uh oh, Mariners see
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Speaker 1: something in some relief pitchers. Again, they're probably going to
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Speaker 1: turn out to be pretty good. So what can you
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Speaker 1: tell us about Hope and Ortiz and how quickly they
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Speaker 1: might be Mariners and not just minor leaguers.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean both have fished at the upper levels
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Speaker 4: of the minor leagues. In Robinson's case, he had some
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Speaker 4: injury issues early on in his baseball life. Last year
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Speaker 4: was a healthy season for him, and he's got a
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Speaker 4: fastball that gets up to ninety seven ninety eight as
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Speaker 4: a lefty, has a three pitch mix, a slider and
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Speaker 4: a cutter that both look like the same pitch at times.
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Speaker 4: The power stuff will sit around ninety four and ninety five,
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Speaker 4: and we feel like as a twenty five year old
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Speaker 4: with three options, it just gives us roster depth in
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Speaker 4: an area where we don't have a ton, which is
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Speaker 4: left hand bullpen. And you know, Alex Happy comes from Boston.
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Speaker 4: Average velocity of his fastball is near one hundred miles
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Speaker 4: an hour, you know, sit ninety eight and a half.
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Speaker 4: He will touch triple digits. He's got a mid nineties cutter.
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Speaker 4: He's got really I mean, it's nasty stuff. We feel
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Speaker 4: like we can help him in terms of like honing
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Speaker 4: in his command, which has been his bugaboo to this
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Speaker 4: point in his career. But a really stuffy twenty six
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Speaker 4: year old righty who we feel like has an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to pitch in the.
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Speaker 2: Big league next year.
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Speaker 4: And these are like classic, you know, recent vintage Mariner
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Speaker 4: acquisitions in November, and then some of them turn out
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Speaker 4: to be Gave Spires and Matte Brass's, you know, and
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Speaker 4: you know, we're hopeful about the talent that we're getting with.
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Speaker 2: These two guys.
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Speaker 5: Jerry, I mean to be sitting where you're at, you
18:17
Speaker 5: had a team that very easily, very well could have
18:21
Speaker 5: hoisted a World Series trophy this year, and yet the
18:24
Speaker 5: nice thing is you also still have one of the
18:26
Speaker 5: best farm systems. Is there anyone in particular, or maybe
18:29
Speaker 5: a couple guys that Mariner fans should be super excited
18:32
Speaker 5: about that you're expecting to be contributors in twenty twenty six.
18:35
Speaker 5: As far as prospects go.
18:37
Speaker 4: You know, I think widely regarded as our top prospect
18:40
Speaker 4: is Colt Emerson and finished last year in Tacoma at
18:44
Speaker 4: the very end of the season, had a fabulous year.
18:47
Speaker 4: He's just twenty years old, and I will play virtually
18:50
Speaker 4: all of next year at twenty. He's a special player
18:54
Speaker 4: we feel like has a chance to be foundational part
18:56
Speaker 4: of what we do, and I would expect that whether
18:59
Speaker 4: it's not opening or at some point next season.
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Speaker 2: He is a part of our mix, which is.
19:04
Speaker 4: Why you know, you provide opportunity for those young players
19:07
Speaker 4: or avenues for them to get those opportunities, and you
19:10
Speaker 4: know Colt will be one of those players. There are
19:13
Speaker 4: other players I'm excited about who may not show up
19:17
Speaker 4: in the big leagues but are going to be pretty close.
19:19
Speaker 4: The guy like Kate Anderson, who was the third pick
19:22
Speaker 4: in last year's draft. We've not seen him pitch a
19:25
Speaker 4: professional inning yet, so we're all eagerly anticipating seeing him
19:29
Speaker 4: in the spring and watching his Mariner debut of sorts.
19:34
Speaker 4: I would love to see what kind of progress we
19:36
Speaker 4: get from Jerangelo sanj who ended last year in Double A.
19:40
Speaker 4: Obviously the switch pitch makes him famous, but what comes
19:44
Speaker 4: out of his hand, especially as a right hand or,
19:46
Speaker 4: is pretty special, and I think it's reasonable to believe
19:49
Speaker 4: that he could show up as a contributor in the
19:52
Speaker 4: big league next year. Obviously, some guys that touched the
19:55
Speaker 4: show for us last year, like Cole Young and Ben
19:58
Speaker 4: Williamson and Logan Evans, we feel like they will continue
20:01
Speaker 4: to play a role in what we do, and we
20:05
Speaker 4: do have a fun system to watch. It's whether it's
20:08
Speaker 4: it's the kids that are going to start in a
20:10
Speaker 4: ball and Everett were the kids that are going to
20:12
Speaker 4: start in Tacoma.
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Speaker 2: I think no matter what level you go.
20:16
Speaker 4: With our system, you're going to find a player who
20:18
Speaker 4: has a chance to play in All Star Games, which
20:20
Speaker 4: is exciting.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: In our last thirty seconds, I just want to say,
20:23
Speaker 1: you know, congratulations. I mean, I know that this is
20:26
Speaker 1: a fan base here in Seattle and the media that
20:29
Speaker 1: just wants to get to the World Series and maybe
20:33
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate always exactly what.
20:36
Speaker 3: It was that you were building here.
20:38
Speaker 1: And then it's nice to see you get some accolades,
20:42
Speaker 1: get some flowers here this season, and to ride some
20:46
Speaker 1: positive momentum into the offseason.
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Speaker 3: I think it's well overdue, and.
20:50
Speaker 1: I think that you've certainly, along with Justin and your
20:52
Speaker 1: entire staff, have earned a little bit of praise heading
20:56
Speaker 1: into the offseason. So congratulations on a great year. Let's
21:00
Speaker 1: just keep moving it forward.
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Speaker 4: I appreciate that, guys. Sometimes I guess sometimes development or
21:06
Speaker 4: evolution isn't linear, and you know, you fall down, you
21:09
Speaker 4: get back up, you pick yourself up, and we're in
21:11
Speaker 4: a good place organizationally, and I'm really looking.
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Speaker 2: Forward to where we go from here. Thank you, Jerry,
21:17
Speaker 2: appreciate you guys. All right.
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Speaker 1: time to chat with Al Kanisky, color analyst for your
22:11
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22:13
Speaker 1: the Detroit Red Wings in Detroit. Four to two is
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Speaker 3: Al Kanisky joins us right here on Chuck and Buck.
22:30
Speaker 3: Good morning, sir, Good morning.
22:32
Speaker 7: How about you, Chuck.
22:33
Speaker 3: We're great, We are great.
22:34
Speaker 1: You know, before we talk about a loss to the
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Speaker 1: Red Wings, I got to find out what life has
22:38
Speaker 1: been like in Detroit with the family fits you.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I got to push my way into some fits
22:47
Speaker 7: Hu family time with an extra day in Detroit, and
22:51
Speaker 7: we had a good time. We had some Southern food
22:53
Speaker 7: and a nice little restaurant called Fixens, and I ate
22:56
Speaker 7: more than my fair share of fried chicken.
22:58
Speaker 5: Nice up taking you to Tommy's barn Grill by chance,
23:03
Speaker 5: he did not.
23:05
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's a secret place he's keeping
23:07
Speaker 7: to himself or what's going on there.
23:09
Speaker 2: Fail.
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Speaker 3: Now that's our place. That's Bucky and Ice.
23:13
Speaker 2: Please, okay, okay.
23:16
Speaker 1: We were in Detroit for three days not long ago,
23:19
Speaker 1: and we spent pretty much every waking hour there. All right, Well,
23:23
Speaker 1: let's dive into this cracking team. I mean they had
23:26
Speaker 1: been riding high for a couple of games. Offensively, you
23:29
Speaker 1: get Joey to cordback last night, you feel like all's
23:32
Speaker 1: right with the world, and then you lose to Detroit
23:34
Speaker 1: by a final score of four to two. In al
23:36
Speaker 1: Kiniski's mind, what went wrong?
23:39
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you know, the team got off to
23:42
Speaker 7: the right start, Jordan Neverly getting the first goal of
23:43
Speaker 7: the game. They've had the first goal of the game
23:45
Speaker 7: four of the last five, so check there on that box.
23:48
Speaker 7: It's one nothing after the first period. But it was
23:51
Speaker 7: the second period that got away from Seattle. The first
23:54
Speaker 7: goal that Detroit scored, it was on a bit of
23:56
Speaker 7: a bad change and probably a shot that Joey to
23:58
Speaker 7: Cord would like to have back. Then they get a
24:01
Speaker 7: double deflection goal off one shin pad off of skating
24:05
Speaker 7: in and that's always frustrated. And then the period ends
24:07
Speaker 7: with Detroit, who's got a fantastic power play, getting a
24:10
Speaker 7: power play goal. So after two it was three to one.
24:13
Speaker 7: They had Seattle on the ropes a little bit, and
24:15
Speaker 7: I got to give the guys credit. They battled hard.
24:18
Speaker 7: Ryker Evans did get a goal as well to cut
24:20
Speaker 7: up to the lead in half, and up until the
24:23
Speaker 7: last minute of the game, it was a three to
24:25
Speaker 7: two hockey game, which we've seen so many times this
24:27
Speaker 7: season over nineteen games. Sometimes it's Seattle on the three sides.
24:31
Speaker 7: Sometimes it's the other team and they're in these games.
24:34
Speaker 7: So don't let the four confuse you. That was an
24:36
Speaker 7: empty net goal at the very end. This team was
24:38
Speaker 7: in it until the end, but I think that a
24:40
Speaker 7: couple of mistakes along the way put them in a
24:42
Speaker 7: position where they were trying to dig out of the
24:45
Speaker 7: lead that Detroit had.
24:46
Speaker 5: Well, I mean just kind of going a little deeper
24:48
Speaker 5: with Decord. I mean, it's good to see him back,
24:51
Speaker 5: and boy right off the bat that game. I mean,
24:53
Speaker 5: I don't know how many it was six or seven
24:55
Speaker 5: shots in the first couple minutes.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked good for the part.
25:00
Speaker 2: I agree.
25:00
Speaker 5: I think there was one that he probably wishes he
25:03
Speaker 5: had back that he would just expect himself to make
25:05
Speaker 5: a say. But I mean, overall the way that you
25:08
Speaker 5: saw him, did he look rusty or is it just
25:10
Speaker 5: one of those you know, he didn't win, but not
25:13
Speaker 5: necessarily because of him.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, you're right, Bucket that first ten to
25:18
Speaker 7: fifteen minutes of the first period, and it continued in
25:20
Speaker 7: the second, but it was a crazy pace and you know,
25:23
Speaker 7: we talked to Ray Cravens between periods and you know,
25:26
Speaker 7: he admitted that they didn't want to get into a
25:31
Speaker 7: track race, if you will, with this team, because they
25:33
Speaker 7: they're gonna they're gonna win there, You've got to slow
25:35
Speaker 7: them down physically, and it just I think it took
25:37
Speaker 7: a little.
25:37
Speaker 2: Too long to get that going.
25:39
Speaker 7: But that first half of the game it was back
25:42
Speaker 7: and forth, and it wasn't just Detroit, it was Seattle
25:44
Speaker 7: keeping up as well. But that's not the style of hockey.
25:47
Speaker 7: This team has success with it. They they thrive on
25:51
Speaker 7: clogging up the neutrals all and on defending well, on
25:54
Speaker 7: breaking you know, not giving up odd man rushes or
25:58
Speaker 7: even even attempts off the rush, and I think Detroit
26:01
Speaker 7: was getting too many of those kinds of opportunities, especially
26:03
Speaker 7: in the first half of the first period.
26:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked a similar question of this of Everett yesterday,
26:09
Speaker 1: but I'll spin it differently to you. I mean, right now,
26:12
Speaker 1: our three leading goal scorers this year are Everly, Schwartz
26:16
Speaker 1: and Stevenson. All of that's a little longer in the tooth.
26:20
Speaker 1: I mean, how much of this season is it going
26:22
Speaker 1: to be key that young players like Benier's right nieman,
26:28
Speaker 1: maybe even Catton, are guys that are just scoring more frequently.
26:32
Speaker 1: How much of this team's ultimate success being able to
26:35
Speaker 1: move this season forward could come down to those guys
26:39
Speaker 1: being better, more effective, efficient scorers.
26:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's going to continue to get better.
26:45
Speaker 7: And I'm not saying that Jordan Eberland, jud and Schwartz are.
26:47
Speaker 2: Going to go away.
26:48
Speaker 7: They're going to be near the top at the top
26:50
Speaker 7: through most of the season. But you're going to see
26:52
Speaker 7: Maddy Veneers continued to be in that mix, Shane right
26:55
Speaker 7: in that mix. We thought Bertie Catten had his first
26:58
Speaker 7: goal last night in the building as his goal, but
27:01
Speaker 7: it never changed on the official score sheets, and it
27:04
Speaker 7: turned out it was going to go to Ryker Evans,
27:06
Speaker 7: So he's getting closer, even as young as he is.
27:10
Speaker 7: So you're going to see those guys move up. But
27:12
Speaker 7: you also are going to remember this team, they get
27:16
Speaker 7: almost thirty percent of their points from their blue line
27:19
Speaker 7: from the defenseman, so it's not just the young forwards
27:22
Speaker 7: you got to look to as well. Vince Dunn is
27:24
Speaker 7: fifth on the team and points at twelve, and there
27:27
Speaker 7: are others as well, But that's a big part of
27:31
Speaker 7: where this scoring comes from the team. So you got
27:33
Speaker 7: the elderly gentleman, as you say, and the youngsters coming up,
27:37
Speaker 7: but also that blue line as well. That's a big,
27:39
Speaker 7: big piece of it.
27:40
Speaker 5: Tomorrow they go against Chicago the Blackhawks Conrad Dard. I mean,
27:45
Speaker 5: how are they going to slow this guy down? Because
27:47
Speaker 5: the Blackhawks are hot right now?
27:49
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're absolutely hot, and Connor Benard is coming into
27:53
Speaker 7: his own right now. He leads the team with twenty
27:55
Speaker 7: nine points. He's I think fifth in the league overall
27:59
Speaker 7: in points. You've got it absolutely key on him. But
28:02
Speaker 7: let's not forget that. You know, we saw this black
28:04
Speaker 7: Hawk team a little over two weeks ago in Seattle
28:07
Speaker 7: beat him three to one, and it was actually Andre
28:09
Speaker 7: Brukowski with the only goal in the game. So the
28:12
Speaker 7: Kraken knew how to shut down Connor Bdard in that
28:15
Speaker 7: game there. But they're absolutely gonna have to do it
28:17
Speaker 7: again here tomorrow night.
28:18
Speaker 1: Another pre pubescent hockey star. I mean he looks four four,
28:22
Speaker 1: not fourteen, al Connor Bdard looks four years old.
28:27
Speaker 2: He can't rent the car yet.
28:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I forget that. I don't even think I
28:31
Speaker 3: think it.
28:32
Speaker 1: Get kicked out of a junior prom, Like, what are
28:34
Speaker 1: you doing here? I still have a passifier in your mouth?
28:38
Speaker 1: What is the deal with and not just young, but
28:42
Speaker 1: just babyfaced, I mean Badard just I mean it looks
28:46
Speaker 1: like he's in the third trimester, that's how young he looks.
28:50
Speaker 7: No, it's it's it's very unique to have somebody of
28:53
Speaker 7: that caliber at that age on your team. And I
28:56
Speaker 7: think they make they make some humor about it often,
28:59
Speaker 7: whether it's renting a car, checking into a hotel room,
29:02
Speaker 7: or making sure he's in bed at night. But he's
29:05
Speaker 7: definitely got the skills to lead this Blackhawks team, not
29:09
Speaker 7: just this year, but for many years to come.
29:10
Speaker 1: All Right, al we'll enjoy your time in Chicago, and
29:14
Speaker 1: we will talk to you again next week.
29:16
Speaker 7: All right, time to get a steak, see you guys.
29:18
Speaker 1: All right, go get a steak al kinisky with us
29:20
Speaker 1: right here on Chuck and Buck cracking back in action
29:22
Speaker 1: tonight in the Midwest. They'll be in Chicago, another great
29:25
Speaker 1: American Midwest city to take on the Red Hawk Blackhawks,
29:29
Speaker 1: as Bucky mentioned, and it's new young star hunter Bodard. Meanwhile,
29:34
Speaker 1: you can just watch.
29:35
Speaker 3: It from home, you know, watch a little crack and
29:37
Speaker 3: hockey from home. It's as cozy as a cozy season
29:41
Speaker 3: in Twoloton. If you ask me. We'll cose out the
29:43
Speaker 3: show with one last thing.
29:45
Speaker 1: Next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, All right,
29:55
Speaker 1: final segment on this Wednesday edition. If chucking back in
29:58
Speaker 1: the morning, so we always do one last thing.
30:00
Speaker 3: What do you got? Buck eight?
30:02
Speaker 5: I just want to say, I guess goodbye to Tyler Sasato.
30:09
Speaker 3: He end up getting DFAD for the move, that hoppy.
30:13
Speaker 5: Kid that they picked up from the Red Sox, and
30:17
Speaker 5: so it's a bummer. I know from experience the day
30:21
Speaker 5: that you end up getting the phone call, Hey, I'm
30:23
Speaker 5: DFA designating first time taking off the forty man by
30:27
Speaker 5: your hometown team, by the team that you grew up
30:29
Speaker 5: cheering for. It's it's harder than just kind of losing
30:32
Speaker 5: the job elsewhere. And so keep your head on. You
30:36
Speaker 5: had some good times here in the merry uniform. He
30:38
Speaker 5: up wins some ball games. Last year was not his
30:40
Speaker 5: best year, and and so I understand the move, why
30:44
Speaker 5: they're making the move. But keep your head up and
30:47
Speaker 5: get to work because you still got a long big
30:50
Speaker 5: league career that you could have. Don't let this thing
30:52
Speaker 5: keep you down.
30:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean helps be lefty and have a little
30:55
Speaker 1: bit of a proven proving ground in your back. I
30:59
Speaker 1: don't No, I don't know if it's a given that
31:02
Speaker 1: he'll walk up somewhere else, but I would imagine he's
31:05
Speaker 1: got one or two more chances that he has to
31:08
Speaker 1: stick in the major leagues. But even if he doesn't,
31:11
Speaker 1: I mean, he got to play for his hometown team
31:14
Speaker 1: and some pretty exciting seasons with his hometown team. And
31:19
Speaker 1: I think that that's more than young Taylor Sausato ever
31:22
Speaker 1: thought that he was going to experience.
31:24
Speaker 5: For sure, I would almost guarantee it, and I remember
31:27
Speaker 5: that feeling, yeah, vividly. The idea of making to the
31:30
Speaker 5: big leagues is one thing. To get there and play
31:33
Speaker 5: for the team you grew up cheering for. Yeah, that's
31:35
Speaker 5: a whole different ball game, And yet it also makes
31:37
Speaker 5: it sting more when a day like yesterday comes around.
31:40
Speaker 3: Ashually, what's your one last thing?
31:42
Speaker 8: I just want to say, I hate technology. I know
31:45
Speaker 8: Napoleon Dynamite loves it. Or no, actually it's not Napoleon,
31:48
Speaker 8: it's his brother Kip.
31:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves technology.
31:51
Speaker 8: I don't Today was an f for technology, but an
31:56
Speaker 8: a for effort from us.
31:58
Speaker 3: That's all technology?
32:00
Speaker 8: Yeah, I see it? Really mean that song is gonna
32:05
Speaker 8: be in the head all the ology.
32:08
Speaker 3: You don't have to dance me, you're singing to the choir.
32:10
Speaker 3: F technology it. Yeah, okay, but now that's it. I
32:14
Speaker 3: just needed to then I need to get that out.
32:15
Speaker 3: You got it, Thank you.
32:16
Speaker 8: Uh.
32:18
Speaker 3: I mean we're gonna have more time.
32:19
Speaker 1: We'll replace some of Jerry tomorrow on the show, maybe
32:22
Speaker 1: even some clips as well.
32:24
Speaker 3: We had Jerry Depoto on at nine.
32:25
Speaker 1: If you don't know what I'm talking about, uh, but uh,
32:28
Speaker 1: I just feel kind of compelled for the end of
32:30
Speaker 1: the show, just kind of highlight exactly what it is
32:34
Speaker 1: that he told us. And there's some reading into this
32:37
Speaker 1: as well, but you know, correct me if you didn't
32:41
Speaker 1: hear the same things. I don't know if he's felt
32:45
Speaker 1: or sounded as confident that it will be Naylor, Polanco
32:49
Speaker 1: and Suarez, but it does sound like he was there.
32:52
Speaker 3: They're certainly trying to bring back one of them.
32:54
Speaker 1: Sounded alike that they're in the market for a little
32:57
Speaker 1: more proven of a relief pitch then the two guys
33:01
Speaker 1: they just picked up this last couple of weeks. Somebody
33:04
Speaker 1: that provides some stability.
33:06
Speaker 3: In the bullpen.
33:07
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like Luis Castillo's going anywhere to create that
33:10
Speaker 1: financial space. And I really was intrigued by who he
33:15
Speaker 1: admitted could be contributors this upcoming season, Colt Emerson from
33:20
Speaker 1: their prospects, Jorangelosangi even brought up Kate Anderson's name in
33:25
Speaker 1: that conversation, as well as guys that could end up
33:28
Speaker 1: contributing this year. I didn't get the impression that you're
33:31
Speaker 1: going to do that much else beyond what we just outlined.
33:36
Speaker 1: And yet I think he did kind of leave a
33:38
Speaker 1: caveat out there of you don't rule out a surprise
33:43
Speaker 1: either from us. I'm I'm pretty sure he's not gonna
33:46
Speaker 1: show all of his cards, even as guarded as they
33:49
Speaker 1: might be, to us here on a radio station interview.
33:53
Speaker 3: But that's kind of the impression that I came away with. Yeah,
33:56
Speaker 3: I got the same thing.
33:58
Speaker 5: I mean, the idea of he basically was saying, you know,
34:02
Speaker 5: a lot of things would have to go right in
34:05
Speaker 5: order for a lot of things that are out of
34:07
Speaker 5: his control. So the decisions of the players, how hard
34:10
Speaker 5: what kind of hardball him and them and their teams
34:13
Speaker 5: are going to play, what the bidding wars are for
34:16
Speaker 5: you know, a Polonko and Suarez, so the idea of
34:19
Speaker 5: getting both of them. Him saying a lot of things
34:22
Speaker 5: would have to go right is not a very intriguing sign.
34:25
Speaker 5: But I like the fact that he didn't say, no,
34:28
Speaker 5: we're not interested in keeping both of them. Yeah, I
34:31
Speaker 5: wasn't closing the door on it. And and yet he
34:34
Speaker 5: did say, and we're still going to play in the
34:36
Speaker 5: free agent market.
34:38
Speaker 3: Okay.
34:39
Speaker 5: Again, I wouldn't expect him to say, yeah, we're done.
34:41
Speaker 5: We're done with that, right.
34:42
Speaker 1: I do wonder where you're coming up with the money.
34:45
Speaker 1: If you're telling us that we're going to have this payroll,
34:47
Speaker 1: you've already said it, and you've already committed to Naylor
34:51
Speaker 1: and you want to commit to at least one of
34:54
Speaker 1: the two, Polanco or Suarez.
34:57
Speaker 3: Where's that money coming from?
34:58
Speaker 2: Then?
34:59
Speaker 1: Where are you go to generate money to spend on
35:02
Speaker 1: the free agent market. I get it if you could
35:04
Speaker 1: pull off a trade with your prospects that you have
35:07
Speaker 1: for you know, you go to Minnesota or Tampa or Sacramento,
35:12
Speaker 1: and they usually try to get rid of guys before
35:16
Speaker 1: they start making good money.
35:17
Speaker 3: That maybe you pull off a trade for something like that.
35:20
Speaker 3: But it's hard. I mean, what player are you getting
35:23
Speaker 3: if you're just trying to spend three or four million
35:25
Speaker 3: in free agency, probably not much.
35:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I didn't hear a hard line
35:30
Speaker 5: of where they're going to stop, right. I think what
35:33
Speaker 5: I heard was we're going to start where we ended
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Speaker 5: last season, which was the highest or second highest payroll
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Speaker 5: in the history. Now, obviously dollars change over the course
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Speaker 5: of you know, years and decades and whatnot, and so
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Speaker 5: I am curious to see how they're going to do
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Speaker 5: it because they have some sort of budget they're running
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Speaker 5: on and I just don't know how far above where
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Speaker 5: they ended last year where that budget is.
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Speaker 1: But good to have him on. I know a lot
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Speaker 1: here this off season. Also, tomorrow, twelve man rounds able
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Speaker 1: from eight to nine. Now, that'll do it for us
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