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JFK ASSASSINATION - Ep. 377 - Half-Baked Sub-Plots · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, May I have your attention please? The
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  Speaker 1: show starts in third line pay seven six five four
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  Speaker 1: three two.
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  Speaker 2: One God anything, tear up the true down and raishole brother,
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  Speaker 2: juis a mom, David by rule bag, mister boots.
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  Speaker 3: Up, pawenness.
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  Speaker 2: It's riding nights, sill the lights, the.
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  Speaker 3: Results, never.
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  Speaker 4: Spend of the basting year and the but refra.
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  Speaker 5: Of toucy.
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  Speaker 3: Mas same moi and here we go.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you Roger see siamo, which is Italian for here
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  Speaker 6: we go.
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  Speaker 7: Oh I thought it was I love you by that
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  Speaker 7: word too. Yeah, okay, what's up? Everybody? Welcome in. It's
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  Speaker 7: Friday night. It's seven o'clock PM Eastern or a little after.
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  Speaker 7: We are live.
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  Speaker 6: We are a live.
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  Speaker 7: Thankfully after this Halsia's week. Yes, and we are pleased
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  Speaker 7: to be able to be here with you this evening.
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  Speaker 7: We have an exciting show for you, as per the usual.
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  Speaker 7: And uh, how was your week, Joseph.
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  Speaker 6: Ah, it was a little hectic, to be honest, but
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  Speaker 6: that's all my weeks. But could have been worse. Meds
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  Speaker 6: and meds, as they say in Italian, this is uh
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  Speaker 6: could have been worse, could have been better? Medium, How
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  Speaker 6: was yours? Are you feeling any better, sir?
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  Speaker 7: I am feeling much better, really.
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  Speaker 6: I could hear it in your voice.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, I blew my nose before I started the show,
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  Speaker 7: so it may accumulate again here at some point and
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  Speaker 7: I'll get nasily again. But yeah, I'm feeling like a
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  Speaker 7: human being again after a pretty bad fight with the flu.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's been going around, man, and it has been.
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  Speaker 7: I don't get sick often like I went when I
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  Speaker 7: was driving. I drove for fifteen years. I think I
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  Speaker 7: called in actually sick twice in fifteen years.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: But when I do get sick, it's got to be
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  Speaker 7: something to really fucking like almost kill me, you know
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  Speaker 7: what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean it's brutal, brutal.
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  Speaker 6: But hear that.
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  Speaker 7: I heard to the edge of the brink of death
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  Speaker 7: and survived and I'm back and I feel much better.
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  Speaker 6: So I am glad to hear that. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: heard it in your voice earlier in the week, and
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  Speaker 6: it definitely sounds better.
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  Speaker 7: So, yeah, brother was dying earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 6: You were, and you still went to work with the
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  Speaker 6: last two days three days?
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  Speaker 7: Uh, Well, I tried to go Monday. I made it
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  Speaker 7: a half a day Monday, and I was like, I
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  Speaker 7: can't I fucking dieing here. And then I didn't go Tuesday,
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  Speaker 7: and then I went Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, well I.
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  Speaker 7: Left early Wednesday, I left early yesterday, but I stayed
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  Speaker 7: the full day to day because it's Friday. You know,
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  Speaker 7: you want to endstrong. Yeah, you gotta go, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, well, I am glad to hear that, sir, And
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  Speaker 6: hope the skuffoozas in your warehouse took care of things
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  Speaker 6: while you were out. I didn't mess up anything or
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  Speaker 6: trucks or delivery, so.
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  Speaker 7: You know, everything everything was good man. Uh, we got
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  Speaker 7: we got a good crew of peeps there.
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  Speaker 6: So nice. Nice holding the fork down. I like that.
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  Speaker 7: Let's welcome some of these kafuzas in here, Joe. They've
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  Speaker 7: been they've been anxiously chomping at the bit for hours.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Mogridge one got the gold medal four hours ago.
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  Speaker 6: More tales of Lee's foot long. I'm not sure he
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  Speaker 6: was that long, but you never know. Uh. Actually, we
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  Speaker 6: do have the autopsy photos. I don't remember if they
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  Speaker 6: showed that exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Oh they do.
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  Speaker 7: Members only one time.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It definitely wasn't long. Trey
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  Speaker 6: number two, Someone's.
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  Speaker 7: Healthy little girl, okay for a small underweight man.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like one hundred and fifty pounds, wet uh, Trey
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  Speaker 6: number two, silver metal and Tiny number three.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome in folks, Welcome in Trey and tiny and yes.
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  Speaker 6: South to West, which I think I saw him earlier,
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  Speaker 6: but yes, it is Friday again. It comes so quick
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  Speaker 6: as you put quickly, thank you, as you point out
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  Speaker 6: almost every week, and it's appropriate because it does come quick.
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  Speaker 6: Timothy Ryan, what's good y'all?
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  Speaker 7: Looks like.
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  Speaker 6: Allegedly allegedly Rob wore his allegedly shirt on Wednesday Show.
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  Speaker 7: Tonight. It's let's see thick. Oh nice, you know how.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you have a little stripper pipe above it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah nice.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And we touched we touched on this on members only,
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  Speaker 6: but we lost a couple of people in the JFK community,
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  Speaker 6: Robert Tannenbaum being one of them. But we're not going
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  Speaker 6: to really touch on that now, another one being Curtis
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  Speaker 6: Crafert or Chris Crafer Curtis Tippett who had just done
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  Speaker 6: an event like a couple of months ago and got
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  Speaker 6: an award from the DPD. And you know the dude
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  Speaker 6: was five years old when his dad was murdered by whoever,
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  Speaker 6: And uh, yeah, it's never easy obviously, Zendar.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, dar.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, Claude Williams and aunt are here. I hope they
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  Speaker 6: have They have lone Stars as they do getting half
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  Speaker 6: baked on lone Stars. Well, this is gonna be a
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  Speaker 6: funny one, so definitely get baked. Make your drink and
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  Speaker 6: or your doc and I'm not gonna say what that is, but.
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  Speaker 7: Drink of choice.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, action Sally, what's uh?
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  Speaker 7: How are you?
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  Speaker 6: From a part?
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  Speaker 7: Hello Sally and.
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  Speaker 6: Tubes from Australia about eleven or twelve am there? From
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  Speaker 6: past remarks Trey Holman, what ut buddy? How are you?
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  Speaker 7: Tony?
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  Speaker 6: Tony? Sorry Tony Holman? Yes, how are you?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 6: Peter Williams, what's up, buddy, Paul Paula Jane is driving?
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  Speaker 6: I hope we don't make you laugh too hard and
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  Speaker 6: make you drive off the road tonight.
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  Speaker 7: It was a big trucker behind her, oh, killing her
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  Speaker 7: to move her ass?
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  Speaker 6: Nice Peter Williams, what's up? Killer Baseline on this intro song, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: our friend Roger crushes it. Uh, let's see John P.
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  Speaker 6: Nolan keep the shaft son out of What is that Iran?
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  Speaker 7: What flag is that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: I think it's Iran, the son out of Iran. I
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  Speaker 7: don't know. I don't know who he is or where
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  Speaker 7: he is?
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  Speaker 6: Shaw?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Uh James Smith? What up, buddy? How are you? Steve O?
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  Speaker 7: Yo?
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  Speaker 6: What our buddy?
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  Speaker 7: Step? Uh?
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  Speaker 6: T Bird? Which is Joelene?
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  Speaker 7: Yes?
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  Speaker 6: I love hell, I'm learning. I'm learning second week in
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  Speaker 6: al right, a week in a row. I think I
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  Speaker 6: got that right? Turn?
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  Speaker 7: What up?
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  Speaker 1: Baby?
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  Speaker 6: Rob Suffers for the podcast. Yes, it's probably me Cross.
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  Speaker 6: Don't we need you here?
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  Speaker 7: I already have a loan gum and skateboard behind me.
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  Speaker 7: I might have to put a loan gum and cross
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  Speaker 7: on the other side.
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  Speaker 6: Uh morning boys from down Under?
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  Speaker 7: Uh wether from down Under, miss.
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  Speaker 6: Mister Ashley, and we already said hi to John P. Nolan.
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  Speaker 6: Rogers here checking in Fellas. Yeah, people are loving your
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  Speaker 6: new intro.
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  Speaker 7: Song and I am as Wellstline.
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  Speaker 6: I'm loving it too, man. It's it's really good. Jay.
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  Speaker 6: Summer's Morning from Australia.
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  Speaker 7: Lads, there's another one Jay. What's up? Jay? The Australia
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  Speaker 7: contingent is strong. Tonight.
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  Speaker 6: I was this morning for them.
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  Speaker 7: We've seed our carpet salesman Anton here and.
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  Speaker 6: S Scott Edwards hopefully with his fancy drink and his
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  Speaker 6: fireplace background. David Ferry was Lee's Sioux chef. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think David Fairy cooked much, do you think? So?
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  Speaker 7: He strikes me as a guy who would be cooking.
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  Speaker 6: You think so, oh cooking food.
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  Speaker 7: M hmm.
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  Speaker 6: That's hypothetical. You don't have to answer, but that is all.
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  Speaker 6: And h yeah, let's uh, why don't you tell people
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  Speaker 6: what we're going to be talking about tonight because it's
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  Speaker 6: an interesting topic that I was unaware of.
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  Speaker 7: Real quick. Neon's up in the house. Oh, Neon, how
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  Speaker 7: are you? And remember we just did the book well
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  Speaker 7: last book review eleven sixty three, and I told you
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  Speaker 7: about the series. It was originally on Hulu. It's now
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  Speaker 7: on Netflix and it's like number two on Netflix now really,
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  Speaker 7: so all yeah, all eight episodes are on Netflix.
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  Speaker 6: So I had the option to buy it for like
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  Speaker 6: ten ninety nine the whole series, or like two ninety
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  Speaker 6: nine episode, and I was like, screw that, but Netflix, damn,
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  Speaker 6: I'm I watched a little bit of it, maybe the
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  Speaker 6: first episode, but uh, it's not factual.
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  Speaker 7: It is fiction, but uh it's a story.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's a good one. And it's rob first
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  Speaker 6: and our only first ten out of ten book.
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  Speaker 7: Reviews so far. Yeah, if you disagreement with me, fight
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  Speaker 7: before it. I'll fight you.
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  Speaker 6: And pv ot to see what up, buddy, Paul, so buddy.
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  Speaker 6: So that is all and uh yeah, let uh let
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  Speaker 6: the folks know what uh what we'll be covering tonight
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  Speaker 6: and then we'll get into an article and then my
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  Speaker 6: famous power point on the docks and see where we
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  Speaker 6: go from.
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  Speaker 7: There, folks. As you know, we're cooking up something here
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  Speaker 7: in the title, I'm trying to be clever and not
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  Speaker 7: really give up giveaway too much until we get here.
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  Speaker 7: But we're here now. So as you know, this story
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  Speaker 7: is full of odd things, just shit you couldn't even
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  Speaker 7: make up if you wanted to, right, And it kind
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  Speaker 7: of stems from the recent episode we did you know
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  Speaker 7: about Julia Postal and it kind of ties into that
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  Speaker 7: because this part of the story kind of picks up
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  Speaker 7: after Oswald is arrested at the Texas Theater and taken
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  Speaker 7: down to the station, where he is immediately subject to
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  Speaker 7: interrogation yet, not searched yet, allegedly, but they sit him
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  Speaker 7: down and start talking to him. Originally it's Lavel for
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  Speaker 7: a little bit and Fritz and then the FBI guys
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  Speaker 7: show up, and sometime around four four to ten pm
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  Speaker 7: they finally decided probably be a good idea to search
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  Speaker 7: this guy, right, And they find a lot of interesting
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  Speaker 7: things in le Oswald's pockets allegedly. Yeah. And among the
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  Speaker 7: items are, of course, some bullets, a bus transfer, a
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  Speaker 7: wallet that contains pictures and cards and various things, some
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  Speaker 7: money I think it's thirteen dollars and some change or whatever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: and one other curious piece of ephemera. Now why do
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  Speaker 7: I call it ephemero? Because he actually has a relic
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  Speaker 7: in his pocket, Joe, a almost three and a half
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  Speaker 7: year old relic in his pocket. For some inexplicable reason,
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  Speaker 7: it beats me man, and this little relic, Joe, were
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  Speaker 7: you able to find a picture of this, by the.
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  Speaker 6: Way, I was not able to find the Oh wow, Okay, are.
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  Speaker 7: You ready for this? I am. Well, you have to
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  Speaker 7: give me a slight second. Okay, I have to add
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  Speaker 7: it in as a new layer. Where the hell is it?
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  Speaker 6: Huh?
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  Speaker 7: Huh, Well is it here? It might be here, No,
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  Speaker 7: it's not there. Is it here?
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  Speaker 6: No, it's not there.
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  Speaker 7: You ever wonder where the hell you say something and
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  Speaker 7: you wonder where it's went to?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: Mmm hmmm. Unfortunately, Like, how is it possible something can
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  Speaker 7: just disappear into thin air? Wow, let's take another screenshot
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  Speaker 7: of it and then all right, we're on sharing it again.
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  Speaker 7: Mm hmmmm, Alice, the shares to the right place this time.
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  Speaker 7: Jesus Christ, Yes, m m hmmm. Let's try this again.
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  Speaker 8: We were talking before the show of how this new
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  Speaker 8: platform we have purchased is a way above our Oh,
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  Speaker 8: let's go, but we're working on it.
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  Speaker 7: I got it, I got it, I got it, I
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  Speaker 7: got it, I got it, I got it. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 7: this is not the original that was in Lee Harvey
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  Speaker 7: Oswald's pocket, if you will, it is a photo copy
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  Speaker 7: that was obtained by the FBI of said paste ub. Now,
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  Speaker 7: what's interesting about this paste ub? But it is that
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  Speaker 7: it is not Lee Harvey Oswald's paste ub right, And
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  Speaker 7: it is not from November sixty three. In fact, it's
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  Speaker 7: not from nineteen sixty three at all. In fact, it's
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  Speaker 7: from August twenty second nineteen sixty So you have to
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  Speaker 7: ask yourself, why is Oswald carrying around a paste ub
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  Speaker 7: that is not his from almost three and a half
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  Speaker 7: years prior. That's a question, yes, oh to me.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it was allegedly.
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  Speaker 7: Past dub production for everybody to see.
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  Speaker 6: Allegedly a pay dub of a former tenant of Neely
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  Speaker 6: Street who worked at the American Bakeri's company, and for
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  Speaker 6: some strange reason, Lee Harvey Oswalt was carrying it on
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  Speaker 6: his persons allegedly when he was arrested on November twenty second,
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  Speaker 6: nineteen sixty three.
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  Speaker 7: Right now, Joe, this pay stub. Okay, you mentioned that
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  Speaker 7: James Jackson, the who the it's made out to, lived
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  Speaker 7: at two one four Street, you know, the house of
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  Speaker 7: the backyard photographs, right right, that's where they were taken,
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  Speaker 7: and then he lived there prior to the Oswalls. Well,
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  Speaker 7: he was actually two tenants before the Oswalds. There was
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  Speaker 7: at least one maybe two in between the time that
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  Speaker 7: he lived there and the Oswals moved in. Not to
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  Speaker 7: mention that the apartment had been occupied once or twice
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  Speaker 7: in between. It had also been cleaned, obviously a gazillion
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  Speaker 7: times in three years by the tenants and also the
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  Speaker 7: landlord after a tenant moves out.
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  Speaker 6: Right, which is standard operating procedure for someone who's renting.
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  Speaker 7: On apartment right, yep, and your microphone the scratching all
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  Speaker 7: over that jacket. Sorry, so yeah, it's very very odd.
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  Speaker 7: You know, why would Oswald have this? How would he
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  Speaker 7: have this? Unless he found it stashed somewhere at the
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  Speaker 7: Neely Street apartment and decided to hang on to it
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  Speaker 7: and decided to take it to work with him that day,
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  Speaker 7: or if you believe what he says when he says
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  Speaker 7: that when he went back to the rooming house that
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  Speaker 7: he changed his trousers and his shirt. Now, if you
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  Speaker 7: believe that, then where does this past dub come from?
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  Speaker 7: Was it among his belongings at Beckley for some reason?
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  Speaker 6: Was this.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe a second identity that he was trying to stumble
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  Speaker 7: upon or create for himself. Don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know either, But uh, I have a lot
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  Speaker 6: of documents, I have a blog post we're gonna read
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  Speaker 6: and we can kind of go back and forth, kind
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  Speaker 6: of parse it out and try to make some sense.
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  Speaker 1: Out of it.
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  Speaker 6: My initial guess would be he found it somehow.
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  Speaker 1: Joe is that.
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  Speaker 7: When they when they originally found this thing on his person,
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  Speaker 7: they never mentioned the name James Jackson. Now, I think
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  Speaker 7: there's a reason for that, because if we look at
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  Speaker 7: this thing again, Joe, it's quite clear that's made out
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  Speaker 7: to James Jackson. Right, this is a photo copy of
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  Speaker 7: his original payroll check. Mm hmm okay, very clearly dated,
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  Speaker 7: very clearly who's made out to, very clearly how much
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  Speaker 7: for Now Here's what I think may have happened, because
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  Speaker 7: when the Dallas police are talking about this thing, even
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  Speaker 7: when the FBI is talking about this thing, they never
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  Speaker 7: mentioned the name James Jackson. That information comes from them
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  Speaker 7: doing their due diligence and checking with the American Bakeri's company,
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  Speaker 7: who I believe was headquartered in Chicago at the time,
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  Speaker 7: and they tracked it back and only one employee named
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  Speaker 7: James Arthur Jackson of Dallas had paycheck totaling sixty six
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  Speaker 7: dollars and seventeen cents, less seven dollars and forty cents
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  Speaker 7: Federal income tax and less a dollar ninety nine and
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  Speaker 7: Social Security for one week ending August twenty second, nineteen
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  Speaker 7: sixty for a check totaling fifty six dollars and seventy
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  Speaker 7: eight cents. Okay, So this is how they came up
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  Speaker 7: with James Jackson, which tells me Joe that the copy
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  Speaker 7: of the paste ub that Oswald had in his possession
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  Speaker 7: either had the name white it out of it, or
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  Speaker 7: it had another name on it, maybe Oswalt's, maybe Hydel's
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  Speaker 7: MH for some weird reason.
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  Speaker 6: Right, And you have and you have to also consider
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  Speaker 6: in nineteen sixty Oswalt is in Russia. You do have
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  Speaker 6: that Hoover report of him people using his name to
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  Speaker 6: you know, purchase some jeeps things like that. So who knows.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to go through the documents as we do
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  Speaker 6: on the show and try to figure it out.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Now, among the other things in his pockets, I have
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  Speaker 9: the whole list. You think I don't, okay, but all.
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  Speaker 7: Well you I just got it. Here. Uh A Marine
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  Speaker 7: Corps ring silver and color chrome color ID bracelet with's
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  Speaker 7: lee on it. A brass key marked Post Office department
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  Speaker 7: box number eleven twenty something six. A paycheck boucher from
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  Speaker 7: the American Baker's Company dated eight twenty two sixty, top
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  Speaker 7: of a small cardboard. Here's another odd thing they found
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  Speaker 7: in his pocket. The top of a small cardboard box
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  Speaker 7: with coxes Port photo printed on top. I don't know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I can't quite make out the second the it's either
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  Speaker 7: fort or fort.
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  Speaker 6: This isn't working. I was trying to put it up
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  Speaker 6: on screen, but.
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  Speaker 7: Well, there's your share screen.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 7: You still have.
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  Speaker 6: There.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: What did you do?
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Rock Ruby? Do you hear that in the background? Yeah,
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Jesus Christ Ruby, get your ship together. Hair. Let me
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: let me do this.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: You have to start at the bottom, remember, yeah, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: then yeah there, yeah, there we go. There you go? Okay,
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: cop fort Worth printed on top. That's what it was,
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: mhm X box copies in soft file.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Thirteen dollars in money, which you said it was like
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: one thirty six, which is like like one hundred and
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: fifty dollars ish today right? The bus transportation coupon or
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: ticket or transfer dated November twenty second. The Marine Corps
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: ring silver and color chrome color ID bracelet with a
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: spane and I don't have no idea what that means,
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: banded with inscription Lee brass key marked United States Postal
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Office Department, do not do not make you? Yeah, number
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: one one two six and the era I have there
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: is the paycheck voucher from American Bakeries Company dated eight
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: twenty two sixty which, of course he was in Russia,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: top of a male cardboard box with Cox's fort Worth
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: printed on top, xerox copies in sum so file. Okay,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: and and I did you know this is the properly
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: property clerks and voice receivet by W. M. Dickey who's
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: probably in the base doing all the the work. No
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: one else wanted to do listing property. But the interesting
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: thing here, Rob is November thirtieth. Okay, so this is
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: seven eight days after the assassination. I am going to
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: get to why that is a little weird.
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, you know what's missing off a hear
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: as well? What is this noticed?
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: I know you notice things I don't show.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: Is wallet.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Right, And that's why I think there was such a
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: delay in this, because there were what two maybe three wallets.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: They do have the right address at Beckley.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: Watching up.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, by then this is his Beckley item list right.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: So you have letter from Arnold Johnson, who I believe
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: was the head of the Communist Party or some communist group.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: He wrote letters to them. You have Orlean's Orlean's Louisiana
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: letter letter on letterhead Socialists.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Where with their.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: Workers Party? Uh to Lee his post office box two
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: nine one, Dallas, signed by feral DABA National Dobbs. Okay, sorry,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: it's kind of cut off here. Letter from Bob Chester
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: to LH. Oswalt sating Oswalt's letter turned over to him
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: by SWP Socialist Workers Party. I'm guessing letter from VT
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Lee National Director FPCC New York. You have letter from
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Lewis Why a Duke.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: Jealdy catalog and all the shit at Beckley? I mean,
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: it doesn't really matter.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Right, It's it's just interesting that it was taken a
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: little earlier than what was Uh. It was cataloged days before,
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: four days before what he had in his pocket, which
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: you think would be the opposite. And of course on
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: the bottom says search warrant dated eleven twenty three sixty three. Now, Rob,
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: I refresh my memory on this. Didn't they show up
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: at ten twenty six North Beckley like pretty shortly after
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: in like the afternoon on the twenty second.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: According to the owners. Yeah, they said that the Dallas
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: police were there within an hour of the president's murder,
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: which is like one clock right, two clock, been there
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: until after They got the corrected dress out of Oswald,
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: which of course he didn't give well Laveil, laveil level
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: Lavelle was and Fritz were in tarrogating the first time. Right,
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: it was after the FBI guys showed up at three
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: ten that they finally got the right address out of
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: this dude. So there should have been no cops whatsoever
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: at this address before three point thirty.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: I would say, well, I would say before eleven twenty three.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: I would say eleven twenty three, based on the search warrant,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: I mean technically now legally, as soon.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: As they as soon as they figured out and where
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: this motherfucker lived, Fritz got up and went out and
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: you know, immediately sent people over there.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: Now, they went over there, they secured the scene, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: they didn't go through anything immediately because they were waiting
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: on the search warrant, which they did not get until
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: like four thirty or an hour later.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, you have on November twenty six, sixty three, which
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: again would have been two days after it was killed,
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: four days before the official items list he was found
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: with was published. About copies of a Dallas map, what
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: does that say? And go by Humble Oil and refining
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: company and Rob. Maybe I'm tripping here, but I've remembered
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: a map with all the exes that Lee had applied
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: for jobs, and I think it was kind of turned
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: into uh, these were all the spots he was looking
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: for to kill JFK type of thing. I couldn't find it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: It's wiped and maybe I'm a bad searcher as possible,
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: but interesting. But let's go to another example, which would
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: be Jack Ruby's inventory list, which happened in the day
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: after the shooting.
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: Right, Well, I did find the inco map. It's eight pieces,
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: like you know, kind of tape together or not taped together,
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: but sewn together, not really sewn together, but piece.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Okay, we could show that.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: There is well I don't. I don't have a picture
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: of it, and I found it, but there are no
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: x's on it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Okay, maybe, yeah, I was Maybe that's conspiracy fodder.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Right, you just remember the movie JFK really too much?
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah? True too. So let's see what Jack Ruby had
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: on him, just for for laughs. One hundred and twenty
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: four dollars and eighty seven cents fifty ones. All right,
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: I guess you know you owned the strip club, so
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: you would have ones, six hundred and two dimes. Imagine
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: counting that two hundred and forty two nickels and two
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: hundred and fifty seven pennies. Envelope containing one hundred and
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: thirty one dollars right, the totals around the left here
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: forty one cents, and they do the quarters, dimes, nickels.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Count them all out. First national money back containing seven
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: hundred ninety five dollars and fifty cents, and they eighty fives,
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: thirty twenty one's, forty seven, forty seven half dollars and
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: eighty two quarters, So two hundred and sixty nine dimes
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: and ninety two nickels total one thousand and fifty one dollars.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Blue canvas bag and a khaki canvas money bag with
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: leather trimmed top and fitted for looking seal missing the latch.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: So they were able to do this within a day,
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: but they took over a week two put Oswaltz things
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: he had in his pocket items together.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: I find that a little weird. Yeah, I mean that
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: tells you there's obviously problems with the second wallet. Because
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: the whole Hidel identity didn't come out on November twenty second,
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: it wasn't until the day after that, right that they
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: pieced that together, found that name on the client's thing,
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: and then pieced that to the rifle, and you know
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: how that went. So there's definitely some scuffusery going on here.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: I just don't know what the hell. Why would Oswald
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: have somebody else's three year old paycheck stuff in his
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: pocket and a cardboard box top for fort Worth. It
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: makes no sense, no sense.
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: It doesn't to me. And it takes Skuffuzas to recognize Skuffuzi.
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: I guess.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Why to welcome in real tea with Krista Marie, how
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: are you neon nine one four? I think that's Paul Anichi,
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: Dave Sparks, Peter Williams, I think already mentioned him, and
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: uh and yeah that's it. But yeah, it's it's weird.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: It's a weird situation. And I think my best working
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: theory now is that the different wallets they had to
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: kind of figure that out, because if you're going to
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: count hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of coins of Jack
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Ruby and publish that in the twenty fifth but not
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: publish anything in what Oswald had on him, which is
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: weird but not a lot right a week later? What's
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: going on here? Are you think they're trying to get
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: their story straight as always, like we talked about Julia
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: Postle and Butcher Burrows and all the scafusas and the
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Texas them.
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and the fact that it didn't have James Jackson's
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: name on it is also very puzzling because it's not
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: mentioned in any of the early FBI reports or DPD
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: reports signed on the inventory. You know, it doesn't say, uh,
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: you know one paste up it made out to James
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: Jackson by the American Bakery Company or whatever, right, which
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: is odd. Yeah, that's and there's no pictures of it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: That's that's the thing that it's crazy to me that
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: there had to be something. There had to be something
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: somebody else's name or Oswald's or high Deel's name on
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: this thing, or somebody else's that they don't want you
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: to know who it was. But let's see.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I am going to read mister James Jackson's initial
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: FBI interview after we read this blog post, which Rob,
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: you can tell who it is written by because you
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: know much more about it than I do.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, back in the day, it's part of a
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: little research familiar if you will. We were kind of
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: linked up with the Minneapolis media group Friends of Carmine,
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: Friends of Mine, gay on Nick's Jackson Doug. And this
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: blog's written by a guy named Zach Jendro and Trish
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: Fleming who was his wife there for a short hot minute,
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: and then they both kind of dis here and got
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: out of the JFK thing altogether. And as far as
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: I know, trishah never came back. And Zach is back
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: here and there dipping his toe in the water here
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: or there, but uh, really haven't talked to him in
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: a long time. But that's who wrote this article. That's
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: who writes this blog. There's many good articles here and
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: that is the Debunked word Press. It's debunk dot WordPress
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: dot com if you want to go check it out.
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: But this article in particular, it starts off with the
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: last kaffusery Joe that we can skip over. Yeah, there's
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: also an opinion mixed in.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: With all this. Yeah, I'm gonna share it, but for
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: some reason it's not showing up on my LANs.
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: Let me see it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Says st.
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah Manesday, Hey Joe, hang on a second. I don't
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: think they can hear us. Let us know if you
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: can hear us. There's some SKUFFUSRAE in the chat that
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: says two minutes ago, where's the sound? The sound has
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: been framed three thirteen. No, Cami said it, Tony or
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: styles Okay until now now we can hear I don't know. Well,
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: now Tony's staying no und traces, no audio. That's because
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: you were taken out of the you were taking off.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: It would work if you didn't take yourself out of
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: a deal. Okay, so now they should be able to
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: hear and see you. But that's a lot.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: Uh sorry, folks. Joe, Joe went alived himself from the
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: from the feed somehow. That always me right, such a
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: fucking thing. Bro Uh.
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: So we were just talking about Julia Postal. Let me
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: just read this from here.
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: I could hear the whole time. Sorry, that's why I
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: didn't realize. Oh yeah, Joe audio.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna start on this paragraph. On November twenty second,
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: sixty three, Oswald was arrested at approximately one forty five
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: pm in the Texas Theater after Julia Postal, an employee
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: of the theater, stated a man that snuck into the
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: theater without paying, despite having about one fifty dollars in
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: today's money in his pocket, and was located on the
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: balcony of the theater. Other reports stated he was found
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: in the orchestra or ground level seating, Butch Burrows was
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: working in the concession stand. He stated that after this
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: gentleman purchased popcorn he went to the balcony to watch
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: the film. This was just one PM. These times contradict
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: the assassination of police officer JD. Tippet, which took place,
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: according to the Warm Commission, between one eleven pm and
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: one fourteen pm.
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: Jack, hang on, hold on, can y'all hear Joe or
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: not at all? Okay? Now, Cammy says he hears both
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: of us. Can y'all hear both of us say something?
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: Joe skafuza.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: In the theater.
• 51:31
  Speaker 10: There's a summary of that. Okay, now, I think we're good.
• 51:40
  Speaker 10: I don't know, all right if okay, okay, okay, we
• 51:45
  Speaker 10: can't know. I'm sorry, We're we're still learning this here.
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: On, just get to the damn good parts. Skip all
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: this kaboozes bullsh okay.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: Oswalt was transported to the police station after his arrest
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: where he finally searched two hours later at approximately four
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: to ten pm. Among the items he was carrying, including
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: bullets and a bus transfer, was a page stub voucher
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: which was found in his pocket for the Cushings Baker's
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: Division of American Bakeries located in Dallas, dated Monday, August
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: twenty second, nineteen sixty, which, of course he was in
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Russia and the life of Lee Oswalt. Unemployment with the
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: Bakeries at that time would have been impossible, for according
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: to the official account, he was reported to be in
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: the Soviet Union. When listed in the police inventory which
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: we showed, the name on the paye dub was not recorded,
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: leaving one to assume it may have been Oswalt's name
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: on it, or possibly no name at all. According to
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: protocol that identification would have been recorded due to the
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: possibility of fraud, especially considering it was taken from the
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: apparent assassin of the president. This stub was either given
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: to or xeroxed and forwarded to the FBI for review.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: Confusion became the norm, as the date on the stub
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: was noted as being either the twenty second or the
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: twenty seventh of August, and no name was disclosed as
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: recorded the FBI, the tax and Social Security deductions were noted, however,
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: the name once again was completely overlooked. This was also
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: a concern of the Warrant Commission when J. Lee Rankin
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: wrote a letter stating that this information had to be clarified.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: Whether this concern had been addressed or not has never
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: been determined. Further adding to the mystery, the paced cub
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: was not listed among the Oswalt possessions had on this
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: person when he was arrested in New Orleans on August ninth,
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: nineteen sixty three, confirming that this was evidentially not an
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: item that he had been carrying in his pockets since
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: his occupancy of the Neely Street address earlier that year.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: Simply put, there has never been a reasonable explanation as
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: to why Oswalt was holding this document when he was arrested.
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: If he was not carrying the pace of no reasonable
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: explanation as to why it was cataloged as such has
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: been offered. Either. American Bakeries was contacted and was asked
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: to locate information regarding the stub based off otherwise confidential
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: payroll data, apparently with no name and a confused date.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: The likelihood of the stub not having this basic information
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: really stated is extremely bizarre. However, American Bakeries did review
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: their master payroll I have those dots, which was located
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: at the head of office in Chicago, Nice Genre. Only
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: one employee was issued a check in that amount on
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: August twenty seven, nineteen sixty. Keeping in mind that the
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: date on the Czech stub was recorded by DPD as
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: being August twenty second, not the twenty seventh. The employee's
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: name was James Arthur Jackson, and he had been hired
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: according to the company records as a part time employee,
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: on August fourteenth, nineteen sixty, which was on a which
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: was a Sunday. Interesting Jackson himself recalled being hired on
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: a Wednesday, August seventeenth. Jackson, a laborer who worked at
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: the bakery, was evidentially completely unrelated to Lee Oswalt, other
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: than the fact that he seemingly lived in the same
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: apartment as Oswalt, that would be two fourteen West Neally Street,
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: some months prior to Oswalt. In an FBI statement, it
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: is noted that the agency also received a copy of
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: all part time employees for the years nineteen fifty eight
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: through nineteen fifty nine, obviously not the year in question,
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: so they didn't even check nineteen sixty Bledgier and a
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: list of full time employees for nineteen sixty. Here they did.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: Jackson appeared on the latter list, as he was hired
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: as a full time employee October nineteen sixty. Ultimately, a
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: list of part time employees for nineteen sixty would have
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: been necessary to a complete overview of this time period.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: When Jackson was asked about how the stub got in
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: Oswalt's hands, he was unsure. He did not recall losing
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: it and assumed that maybe he had left this stub
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: at a previous residence, which, if you kneely straight. Jackson's
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: residency at this location was approximately a year prior to
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: the Oswalts moving there in March of nineteen sixty three,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: although the exact dates are uncertain. In fact, a man
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: named James Stevens had lived in the apartment in a
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: period of the time between Jackson and Oswalt's respective residencies.
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: Neely Straight was the location of the infamous backyard photos
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: which had been taken of Oswalt holding the rifle he
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: reportedly used to kill Kennedy.
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: Let me stop you there, Joe. Okay, So, just to reiterate,
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: the Czech stub is from nineteen sixty August. Yes, rrect. Yeah,
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: Jackson says that he didn't move into Neely until August
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: of sixty one, which is a year later.
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: Correct, that's what the article says. We have the documents
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: coming up. Yeah, So.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: That would mean that Jackson would have had to hang
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: on to this pace of for a year without losing it,
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: and then somehow losing it in such a good spot
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: at Neely that it wouldn't be detected that by him
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: or the next tenant or the landlord who cleaned in
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: between somewhere in the apartment supposedly, right, okay.
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: Right, Well, we'll see. They interview him in December, early December,
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: mid December sixty three, so we can parse through that.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: There's only one more paragraph left. The items in the
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: DPD report dated November thirtieth claimed that all evidence was
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: tagged on November twenty third, which raises doubts about the
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: statements of its discovery on November twenty fourth. The question
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: then became, were there are two of Jackson's stubbs potentially
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: in Oswald's possession one on Neely one on this person,
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: or rather an error in regards to the stub to
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: where the stub was originally found by the FBI and
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: the DPD.
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: I don't think there was any mix up. I mean,
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: it's clearly I don't think they were. I don't think
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: they would have immediately went out to two fourteen West
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: Neely Street.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: No, they would have no need to do that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: You know, on the on the twenty third, and found
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: this mysterious American bakery company receipt that mysteriously didn't have
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: somebody else's name on it that it should have, and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: it somehow got mysteriously mingled into being in Oswalt's pocket
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: at the time of his arrest. I don't think that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: mix up happened. So again, what is this thing doing
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: in Oswald's pocket?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it makes no sense whatsoever.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: I got a couple of comments here, Starred Joe Sure
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: to indulge me for a second, Yes, of course, uh neon?
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  Speaker 7: Did they not ask Oswald about the check? And what
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: did he say? You know what, that's a good question.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: Why during the interrogation did they not ask him specifically
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: about this check. That's a good question.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not in the hosting notes right, Well, it.
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  Speaker 7: Wouldn't been because they didn't search him until after the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: first two interrogations, the Lavelle Fritz interrogation and then the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: FBI interrogation. Then they searched him, but they also interrogated
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: him a couple more times after this, and I would
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: have to go back and really check, like the Harry
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: Holmes interrogation, and maybe there was another one the FBI
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 7: did I don't know.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well that was on Sunday, right to Harry Holmes.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: Harry Holmes Sunday morning. Yeah, but you would think that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: they talked to him Saturday. Maybe definitely.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know Harry Holmes, but no, they
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: definitely weren't everyone. Yeah, I think there was DPD.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: Actually, I for this every remembers only we might want
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: to check, like a Secret Service interrogation, the Harry Holmes
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: see if they had mentioned this check stuf because that's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: a good idea. Yeah, that is, you know, I mean
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: that's if I was a cop and I found this
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: weird thing in his pocket, damn sure asked him about it. Yeah,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: and then we got Sally just found an obituary for
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: James Arthur Jackson Junior in New Orleans, born in nineteen
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: seventy five. Obviously his dad is a senior and we'd
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: be about to, you know, right age for all this.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: So there's a James Arthur Jackson in New Orleans in
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: the sixties or earlier.
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  Speaker 6: I believe he was born in the thirties, and it's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: in the documents coming up I have.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, the question is where was it in New Orleans.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: I let's find out, because if he's the.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: Same age as Oswald, Oswald could have known him in
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: like school, from school or just kafoozing around the neighborhood
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: or something. Yeah, excellent, excellent questions, folks.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all right. So this is from the Oswald to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: A one file and this is the James Jackson FBI interview.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: And hopefully you guys can hear me as I'm sharing this.
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  Speaker 6: It is noted that American Bakery Company paste up in
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: the name of James A. Jackson was found in the
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  Speaker 6: apartment located at two fourteen West Newley Street, Dallas, Texas.
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  Speaker 6: This apartment was occupied by Lee Harvey Oswald from March second,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: sixty three until approximately May one, sixty three, so March
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: April May about three months, right, can you hear us?
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  Speaker 7: Let me know?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: I don't want to yet.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: Somehow I just popped up on over top of this shit.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: I don't know how, but yeah, prey continue.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, if you can't hear me, let us know in
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: the shot. But my PowerPoint should be Okay, that was
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: a tab Joey tabbs they call me. This is an
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: FBI document of Southwest.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: I can't hear, but Sally says she can hear us both. Okay,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: what the hell we can here here?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, wee can hear good? Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 6: James A. Jackson two three zero one South Irve advised
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: that he resides blah blah blah, blah blah. He said
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: he was employed at American Bakery Company as a mixer.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: I'm a mixer.
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  Speaker 7: I mixed up all the dope.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: He mixed up all the pies.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: The Joe the Little Apple Pies is so.
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  Speaker 6: Good, and has been employed since August nineteen sixty. He
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: states his social security numbers blah blah blah, and noted
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: that he formerly used social Security number, different social Security number.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: The fuck is going on there? You have two social
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: security numbers, fifty four and fifty. I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I was just slightly off by one number. I was
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: told the right one to you, so.
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  Speaker 6: We're good until he was advised by the Social Security
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: administrator that he should not use fifty as it was
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: assigned to another person. Sus I don't know what's going
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: on there. This mix up occurred while he was in
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: the Armed Forces or shortly after he got out. When
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: he first went to work for the American Bakery Company,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: he advised he had never known any person named Lee
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby. He said he had heard
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: of these names since the assassination of JFK and the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: murderer of Lee Harvey Oswald. The document continues, mister Jackson
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: said he first lived at twelve O four McKee for
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: about a year. Then he moved to two fourteen West Neely,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: where he and his wife lived for about nine months,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: and thereafter moved to seven or one North Boulevard, two
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  Speaker 6: Harris until July of sixty three, when he and his
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: wife separated. Her name is Sally Ann Jackson. She now
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: resides blah blah blah. Jackson states that his mother, missus
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: Guy Alexander. Wonder if there's any relation to the what
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: was the DA's name was Alexander?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: Right? Yeah, I doubt. I'm pretty sure mister Jackson was black.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: Continue Okay resides in Denton Drive, Carrollton, Texas, and she
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  Speaker 6: is the person listed on his employment record as a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: person to notify in case of death or accident. Mister
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: Jackson said his immediate supervisor is mister Omar Curtis at
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: the American Bacon Company. Jackson said he had no idea
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: how Lee Harvey Oswalt might have come into possession of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: a paycheck stub which apparently belonged to him Jackson, but
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: that is but that it was possible he might have
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: accidentally dropped this check stub on the street, on the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: street and someone could have picked it up. But he
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: did not recall ever losing one. We have a foul.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: So he was then reinterviewed. So was the day to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: the last one. It was December twenty first, So he
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: was then reinvestigated on January eighth, re interviewed on January eight,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: sixty four, so a couple of weeks after by Brookheart
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: not to be confused with Book Out, It has noted
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: that an American Bakery Company paytub was found in the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: search of the apartment apartment located at to fourteen West
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: Neely Street, Dallas, where the residents of Lee Harvey Oswald
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: from March tecond to April sixty three. This pay stub
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: appeared to belong to one James A. Jackson. An interview
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: with Jackson has established that he once resided at Neely Street.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: He was reinterviewed and furnished the following information. He advised
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: on August seventeenth, nineteen sixty he was employed by the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: American Bakery Company. At the same time, he recalls moving
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: to McKee, Dallas, and that approximately one year later, in
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: August sixty one, he and his wife moved into the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: department located at Neely So there's some time differences there,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: as you pointed out.
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  Speaker 7: Very accent and for.
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  Speaker 6: Mister Jackson, Dattocrat advised that he and his wife stated
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: that's addressed approximately eight or nine months until April or
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: May sixty two. Then they were moved to Boulevard Terrorist, Dallas,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: where they stayed until June or July sixty three, at
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: which time, which is ironically there's a little arrow here
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: on the FBI document, he and his wife Sally were separated,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: and it's at the bottom it's missus James A. Jackson.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know exactly what they're going for here. During
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: the time, entire time he resided, he didn't know anyone
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: named Oswalt, and no idea how Oswalt may have come
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: into possession of the American Bakery Company pay cart stumble
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: with his name on it unless this past dub was
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: probably dropped somewhere in the apartment and remained there after
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: they left. So it's the street, it's the apartment. Skofuziel abounds.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: Let's go to the payroll clerk, Catherine Hayley, American Baking Company,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: who was interviewed on the same day. I think it
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: was the same day that Jackson was. The records of
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: that company reflect jackson social security number. Was hired as
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 6: a temporary employee on August fourteenth, nineteen sixties. Now we're
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: going back to nineteen sixty and on October fifteenth, nineteen
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: sixty he was converted to a regular employee. She said
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: he was employed as a helper in the Dallas Cake Plant,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: Plant number eighty two, Dallas, Texas.
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  Speaker 7: He mixed the cake.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: Joe I'm sure he did. Miss Haley advised Jackson's employee
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: history card reflects his date of birth as August fifteenth,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: nineteen thirty six, that he is married with one dependent,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: that at that time he resided at McKee. We already
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: know this, and we go back to guy Alexander blah
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: blah blah. Miss Haley advised her records indicate Jackson had
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: one week's vacation beginning September eighth in nineteen sixty two,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: and then he had two weeks vacation beginning September seventh,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: nineteen sixty three, which is interesting on the.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: Timing there, right, I don't know what might he say that, Oh.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: It's close to Mexico City, I got, I guess that's
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: late September.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: Right, Well, does that have to do with Oswald?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I just find it interesting that he
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: had two weeks vacation at that time. He's currently employed
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: with her company as a mixer.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: When we heard that, I mixed the king.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: The following investigation was conducted by William Brookhart. On December thirtieth,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: sixty three, Mister MW. George Tucker Manning Insurance advised that
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 6: he is currently the owner of the property located at
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: two fourteen West Neely, having acquired this property on November fourteenth,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: nineteen sixty two. This property was previously owned by Lily
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: May HOOVERA that's kind of funny, who left for Florida
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: to live her life as a down in the sun
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: immediately after song on the property, which is a duplex
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: building with the addressable to twelve and to fourteen West Kneely.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 7: Oh the bullets she dodged.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Mister George advised that missus Hoova does not have
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: any known relatives in Dallas. Who cares. Mister George advised
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: that his rental records do not show that a James A.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: Jackson resided at to fourteen West Neely, Texas since he
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: acquired the property. Well he wouldn't. Oh, no, ye, what
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: you should have Actually, well, they lived there.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: In what.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: One against the nineteen sixty one.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: No I was talking about Oswald in the spring of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: sixty three, That's what I was referred to. But remember.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 7: Well he said the landlord didn't know that James Jackson
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 7: ever lived there.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: Oh right, because he didn't probably get the right records
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: and he was probably a skaffuso.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 7: Well, No, he didn't get the property until November fourteenth,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: sixty two. Mm hm, so who did who?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: Does he give a fuck? Who used to live there?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: Or he used to rent from Lily May Hoover. You
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: I hear you.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: I hear you, I hear you.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: So I found this in an HSCA report, and uh
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: Oswald had a payroll stub from the American Bakery Company
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: dated August nineteen sixty, a period when Oswalt was in Russia.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: The stub turned out to have nothing to do with Oswalt,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: but to belong to someone else who had lived at
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: the same address where Oswalt once had lived. Maybe Oswalt
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: was collecting misleading data in case he was arrested, and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: he then apparently walked into the place where the encounter
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: with policeman Tiffmitt occurred. The physical evidence about the times
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: involved indicates it just might barely be possible for Oswalt
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: to make this odyssey. Let's go to what John Armstrong
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: and Harvey and Lee has to say about this. Shortly
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: after two pm, the police car carrying Harvey, Oswalt and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 6: the officers arrived in the basement of the DPD headquarters.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: Detective Bentley and Sargeant Hill escorted Oswald to the homicide
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: department on the third floor and placed him inside one
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: of the interrogations rooms.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: When m.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: With Officer C. T. Walker, Walker removed Oswalt's brown billifold
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: from his pants pocket and instructed him to sit down.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: While looking through his billfold, Walker asked Oswalt his name,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: and he replied Lee, Oswalt. Walker found a card and
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: Oswald's wallet with the name Hidel and said that is
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: your real name, isn't it. Oswalt replied, no, that is
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: not my real name. I do not know anything about that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: Walker asked why did you kill the officer? Did you
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: kill the officer because you were scared of being arrested
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: for something? Oswaldt looked at the at Walker and said,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: I'm not scared of anything. Do I look like I'm
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: scared now? Walker remembered that Oswalt did not look like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: he was scared. He was calm and not a bit nervous.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: Detective us Rose looked through Oswalt's wallet. It also asked
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: if his name was Idel. Oswald told Rose, you're the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: detective you figured out. You find out we talked about
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: that the other week. Rose then talked with Oswalt for
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: the next twenty minutes until Captain Fritz arrived. The police
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: took you know, the thirteen dollars and eighty seven cents
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: and cash from Oswalt, a black belt, a brass key,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: an id bracelet, and two items which appear to be
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: out of place. One of those items was a check
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: stub from the American Baker's Company dated August twenty second, six,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: nineteen sixty pay roal check was issued to James A. Jackson.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 6: But why did Oswalt have a three year old check
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: stub in his pocket? The second item was a small
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: box you mentioned before, bearing the name Coxes four or
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: why was Oswald carrying this box top in his pocket
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: on November twenty second? Note these items appear insignificant until
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: we remember that Oswalt had changed both his shirt and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: his pants after arriving at his rooming house. It appears
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: that Oswalt intentionally took both of these items with him,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: but their importance remains a mystery. When first questioned by
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: the arresting officers, Oswald was self assured, in complete control
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: and appeared somewhat arrogant. He answered only those questions that
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: he wanted to answer, and repeatedly asked why he had
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: been arrested. So, I don't know if that's Harvey or Lee.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: I'm not really going to go there, but let's go
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: to Vince Bugliosi Reclaiming History, page one thirty two. I'm
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: not going to read all this. When they arrived downstairs
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: in the basement, hold over a room, Zen boids search Oswalt. Remarkably,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: no one has yet. Boy, didn't they find the wallet
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: when they took him in.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 7: The police car?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: Allegedly?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but they never searched anything else they did, never
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 7: checked his other pockets, right, Yeah, that's.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: Doing your due diligence for sure. I'm being sarcastic. Uh
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: BOYD finds five live live rounds of thirty eight caliber
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: ammunition in the left front pocket of Oswalt's trousers. What
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: are they doing in here? The detective asks, I just
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: had them in my pocket, Oswalt says, nonchalantly. Detective Simms
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: finds a bus transfer issued by the Dallas Transit Company
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: in a shirt pocket. Oswald takes off his silver Marine
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: Corps ring and hand it to Sims. Also recovered from
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: Oswald pockets are a small white top box top with
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: the name Coxes forth Worth and paychecks do of course
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: from American bakeries and nebras Ki, which we've gone over.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: So I don't know what's going on. There seems to
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: be some skuffoozery happening here, And going back to my
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: first slides of why they didn't come up with this
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: inventory list until a week after is also maybe the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: most suss for me, because how many things can you
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: have in your pocket?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: Right you?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: You counted thousands of coins of ruby and you can't
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: tell what was in the Oswald's pocket.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 7: Well, somebody mentioned that they might have waited until they
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 7: got all the shit back from the FBI to catalog everything.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: Remember that. That's but I'm pretty sure they cataloged everything
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 7: before turning it over to the FBI, so you would
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 7: have a baseline. You know, you don't just turn over
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 7: everything you got without having a record of what you
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 7: gave him to make sure you got everything back, you
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: know what I mean. Yeah, so I don't know about that,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 7: And then sadly had an interesting comment, Okay, could Jackson
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 7: have left the trousers when he left? And the landlady
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 7: kept him in a lost property band and she gave
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 7: him to Oswald at some point because they needed some strides.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 7: Maybe that's possible.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 7: He would have had to take the stub out of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 7: the pocket at some point unless he never washed the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: damn things and just left left the stub in there
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: and the box top just some trash or whatever and
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: pocket trash or whatever you want to call it, and
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 7: just left it there and never washed them. I don't know.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: It's interesting theory, but I would I would hate to
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: think that I wouldn't wear somebody else's pants without at
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 7: least washing them first.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and who knows if they even fit him. I mean,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: I don't know what Jackson's size were. You would need
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: pretty big belt if they were too big, right, Because
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: Oswalt was.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: Pretty scary, you look ridiculous, if you know.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Oswalt was known to keep a pretty neat appearance.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: It's it's a really weird situation, and I really don't
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: know what to make of it, Rob, I really don't.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 7: That's all strides never were washed since there was no
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 7: washing machine. Goddamnit. Well, he had a washing machine. And
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 7: her name was Marina Okay, and she washed his shit
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: when they were together, allegedly, Now when he was living
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 7: by himself, did he get to laundrymat I don't know.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I listen. Oswalt was a pack rat. He kept
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: all of his receipts, So why would he keep this
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: random receipt unless he was trying to do something sus
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Yeah, no, I'm not saying it has
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: anything to do with the Tippet murder or the JFK murderer.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: It's just something that you brought up to me, and
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: I kind of went through all the documents.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: Photographed when they put it into evidence of the DPD
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 7: and why it wasn't is a question why the name
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: was never mentioned. It was a question.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, never mentioned in the Warren report, which you would
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: think it would be, right, I don't believe.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 7: So they figured it out by then.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: Maybe it was buried somewhere, but I didn't find it. Well.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 7: I mean, we have the FBI reports from December of
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: sixty three, so they had the information by the time
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: of the Warren Commission, and.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: They had to reinterview him like two weeks later. So
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: there they're kinda.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: The question shouldn't be okay, all right, they can figure
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: out whose paycheck stub this is, right?
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 7: The question to them was probably like, why in the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: hell does oswalt to have it in his pocket? And
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: the only person that can answer that question is Lee
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: Harvey Oswald at this point, and he's dead, so we'll
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 7: never know why.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: Unless Marina does, and she may not even know, and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: she might not even know, and she will definitely not
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: say anything about it.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 7: There was the reason that they didn't photograph it into
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: evidence from the get go, because I think it had
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 7: a fake name on it, and whether it was Oswald's
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 7: or Hydel or whatever you want to do, and whatever
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: purpose this may have served other than just an easy
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 7: document to forge if you will, right, you know, you say, well,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: this is me, this is my paycheck dub, here's my ID,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: here's my selective service card. He's a paycheck dub.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 7: It had just been supporting evidence that he was trying
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: to create a high Deel alias. But if the paycheck
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: stub had high del on it, why wouldn't they photograph
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 7: it into evidence? It would have been more proof for
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 7: them that he's creating this other identification.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: Right, Maybe they just wanted to focus on the High
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: Deel alias and not confuse people with another possible alias.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 7: Well, well, I'm saying it could have had the High
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 7: Deell alias name on it, right, because he's trying to
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: create a different identity. You need more than one piece
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: of you know, something with your you know, if something
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: official with your name on it.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So I'm just putting this back up just to
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: look at it again.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 7: Now again, this is this is not what Oswald would
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: have had in his pocket. This is the paycheck, Okay.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 7: He would have had the check stub okay, which is
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 7: the other part of the check where it indicates you know,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 7: what taxes are taken out whatever, you know, where it
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 7: has your name, uh, you know, your social your address,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 7: and then of course there's a perforation and then the
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 7: check is attached to the check stub. Obviously, this is
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 7: not what Oswald had in his pocket. He didn't have
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 7: the paycheck. James Jackson and would have cashed this in
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 7: nineteen sixty and kept this check stub as a record
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 7: of his payment right from me, boy, This would have
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 7: been his first paycheck. Yeah, and he worked there for
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 7: three years.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 6: It's also weird that, you know, Jackson kind of goes
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 6: back and forth on. He could have founded it on
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 6: the street, and.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 7: Well, he's obviously at a loss on how the hell
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 7: Oswald has this check stub on him. I mean, it's
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: just the weirdest and the only connection is Neely Street. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 7: but that connection is not very strong once you throw
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 7: logic into all that. You know, there's a two year
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: gap between Jackson and Oswald living at this address. There's
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 7: another in between. I mean, how did you know? As
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 7: I don't know. It's just very odd. It's very odd.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: It's a very odd story. And hence the title.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 7: Oswald must have found it somewhere in the apartment, tucked
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 7: away somewhere.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: I think, that's.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, But then why why keep it on you?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 7: That's yeah? Or why have it with you that day
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: of all days? Be one thing? To keep it and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 7: stick it in a bag somewhere, or use it as
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: a bookmark or whatever, you know, you know whatever, Why
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: is it in your pocket on this day, bro, this
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: day of all days? Why is it in your pocket
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: after you suppose it went back to the room the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 7: house and changed clothes, Why is it in your pocket?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: I don't buy the it was accidentally left in the
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: trousers and he just used that, you know what I mean?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, now the box up that could be pocket trash.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 7: Who I mean, who knows? But that's odd too.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: Well, what really is a box top? Can you explain
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: that to me?
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 7: It would have just been a piece of cardboard. Somebody
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 7: said Coxes was a department store, so it would have
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 7: been like a piece of cardboard ripped off of a
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 7: Cox box. Like I say, you bought a hurt or
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: something from Cox's department store and then it came in
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: a box and you know, maybe ripped off the piece
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 7: that had Cox's name on it, you know, Cox for
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: whatever reason, maybe that's something written on in in invisible writing.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 7: Who the fuck knows, I don't know.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I also find it very weird that,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: you know, the DPD is counting who knows how many
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: hundreds or thousands of coins of Jack Ruby putting that
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 6: in the next day, and this manifest if you will,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: of what was in Oswald's possession during his arrest doesn't
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: happen until a week later. Like why, I think it
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: kind of goes back to the wallet. I think they're
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: trying to get their story straight. Possibly, you know, they.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: Got a problem if there's two wallets, right, you know,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 7: if they found a wallet on he's arrested and they
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: found an Oswald wallet at the Tippet murder scene, then
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 7: you got a problem.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 6: As we say, that's a problem.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: That's a problem. That's pure indication of somebody trying to
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: set him up. And if it was you know, meant
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: to frame him from you know, soup to nuts, from
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 7: rifle to you know, all this other nonsense, then uh,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 7: maybe that maybe the the Tippet wallet had had the
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 7: hide deal I d in it, mm hmm, and his
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 7: wallet when they rested him just had his regular stuff.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 7: But then you have you know, Gus Rose saying, well,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 7: who's Who's high Deel? Is that your real name?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: And you have and you have don't you have the
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: guy at the Tippet scene saying the same thing, right,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: who was Hidel?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 7: No you don't. You don't who mentioned the word Hyde
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 7: Deel at the Tippot grime scene.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: I believe it was one of the officers. I don't know.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: I'm pretty pretty sure didn't happen. Okay, maybe I'm I
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: trust you. I'm pretty sure when they you know, that
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: video of the Tippett scene, when they find in the wallet.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's w D s U or
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 6: whatever local DPD station. I thought they. I thought someone said,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: do you know who Alex Heidel was? Chat chat back
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: me up here. I'm pretty sure about it. But before
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: anything else, I want to show you a picture here,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: Rob of my girlfriend face face, not wanting to show
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: with Ruby sing.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 7: Stinky feet and I'm sure they smell lovely. Yeah, much
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 7: better than Joe's. I'm sure.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I need a petty bro. I know that's a
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: little Perry Russo, but oh my god, yeah, I think
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: I need. I haven't gotten one, but I need one.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 7: Have you ever gotten one? Yes?
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: I am Perry Russo at the end of the day.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: But this this logo, man, is so fire. I have
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: won in Gray that I wore on members only and
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: also on when I did the guest appearance on Tim
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: Gartner's Sorryher Past podcast a couple of nights ago. It
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 6: should be out sometime this weekend. I think, uh, definitely
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: check that out when over the Martin stuff and the
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: Walker stuff and things like that. But good ship with
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: this logo, man, I gotta say props.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 7: Yes, it looks good, honor it does he oh oh,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: the double B coming through dropping some dimes. Thank you, Brandon,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 7: appreciate you, brother. Hello to you, sir. Oh, mister Holman,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 7: it wasn't on the news footage. There's no audio.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: No, they're looking through a wallet, but allegedly a wallet, yes, allegedly.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: Westbrook asked, do you know a high Dell is for
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 6: my memory? I mean, listen, everything's a blur. I forget
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: things and details. My memory is the worst. So we'll
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: follow up on them. We should know it, but it.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 7: Will be a couple of members only.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: Yes, I will apologize for sure if I am wrong,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 6: and for sure, but yeah, man, this, uh you know,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: I had never heard of this American bakery paste ug
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 6: being found before you mentioned it, uh to me yesterday
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: and things in your lap, Yeah you would, uh but uh,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: I mean hopefully we learned a little something about what
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 6: Oswald had on him. You know, the wallet thing has
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: been explored to death, so we're not going to really
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: go through.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 11: That, but just add into like what's going on in
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 11: this dude's head, like, yeah, what the fuck is he doing?
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah? Why does he have this ship? Why is he
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 7: doing what he's doing?
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: Or or was it I mean I don't think it
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: was planted, because what would be the purpose of that
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: other than to maybe confirm that he lived at Neely
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 6: Street to affirm the backyard photos. That's the only wild
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 6: guests I could think of. I'm not saying I'm right.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's a plant. I mean, that's a stretch, bro, No,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: I agree, I completely agree it's a structure. It would
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: be a very random thing to make up. I'm just saying,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: I just it's just.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 7: A very random thing, period. Yeah, it doesn't make any
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 7: kind of sense whatsoever. We're gonna double check the interrogation
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 7: notes and see if they ever asked him about this thing,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 7: because I don't think they did.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: I don't think so either.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: It would be at the top of my list. You know,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 7: if things you're arrested with, all right, why do you
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 7: have these other bullets in your pocket there? Bud Uh?
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 7: What's up with this paycheck stuff that's not yours in
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 7: your pocket from three years ago? It's a little odd, buddy,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 7: Why you got that? It makes no sense in this box,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: top h You couldn't buy a ninety ninercent ticket. You
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 7: got thirteen some dollars in your pocket? Dude, like these
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 7: are questions I'd be asking him. I don't know.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Uncle Dave Lho was engaged in trade craft and
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 6: was being manipulated, a bad combination for him, And yeah,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: that's kind of what I that's kind of what my
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: working theory is is he kind of left around and
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 6: found out type of thing. But who knows. I don't
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: know if I'm right, but definitely a weird situation. And
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: as we were trying to come up with the topic,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 6: Rob suggested this and I thought it was very interesting
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: because I didn't know anything about it. So I learned
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 6: something new, and I hope the audience did as well.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, as always we kind of throw up our
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: hands and go, we don't know what that's going on
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: with this thing, but.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: It's just a puzzle piece, Joe. Yeah, eventually we're going
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: to fill in the puzzle, but it's just another puzzle
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 7: piece for right now that is figure it out. Yeah, Well,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 7: we can always now be on the lookout for other
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 7: things that relate to this.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 6: Right exactly, or studies. Yeah, and maybe look into more
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 6: of you know, James Jackson who was a military guy,
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 6: and uh, you know, taking off a couple of weeks
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: and a pretty interesting part in time in November or September.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, I don't know, but maybe
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 6: worth some follow up in some way.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 7: Yep. Maybe we'll get there someday some day, but for now,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 7: we're just gonna leave it right there, Joe and say,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 7: sounds good. Hey, here you go. M all right, real quick,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 7: back to the chat for a second. Uh, what happened
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 7: out of the blank podcast? Well, he's still releasing shorts,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: I believe, YouTube shorts, but just being informative, not doing
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 7: any of the podcasts, if you will. I think he
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 7: uh burned out on it and it's taking it well
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: deserved break.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 7: He was hundred and some episodes in three years, which
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: is like some crazy shit. Yeah, every day, which is insane.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I believe I saw him release like one or
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: two episodes in the last month or two. But uh, yeah,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, hey, I get it. And Robbie is a
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: good guy, not in David a long.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 7: Time, good quality time with his lady and his dog
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 7: and living his best life and we wish probably nothing
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 7: but the best. Yes, good dude, And he'll probably be
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 7: back at some point, but you know, he's doing things
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 7: on his own terms, which is the way things should.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: Be done exactly.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 7: So who.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 6: What. I don't believe that.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 7: Well, he was starting to talk about aliens and disclosure. Yeah,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 7: I don't know. He's fine. Robbie's fine, Robbie will be okay.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 7: He ain't scurred nobody. Hey, Joe, you got the damn
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 7: dog already. I ain't gonna tell you to get her.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: I had to grab her.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 7: And by the way, there she is in sticker form.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 6: YEP, in sticker form. And it's you. It's you, it's you.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 7: Smell it, m M.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 6: You're famous. You have fans all across the world. World Ruby.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 6: You don't even know. I have to tell her somehow
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 6: that I'm leaving for a month.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, good luck record. But he said, come to the Believer.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: Street and I'll show you what I think of the case.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 12: It's never goodbye, see you later. That's if people speaking
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 12: of goodbyes and seeing you later. We'll see you later.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 12: Hopefully we'll have a who reviewed this week.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 7: I think we will. Yeah, let's both upright on feet
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 7: and then we'll see the member's on.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: The greatest lies are told in the name of the
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 6: greatest King Ruby quotation. It could be used.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: And by the way, if you were gifted a membership,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: to make sure to re up that we have a
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: ball on Wednesdays.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 7: Thank you folks, Thank you Brandon for the super chat.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 7: We love you. Good night, Peace later, mm hm