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RHOBH Exclusive: Annemarie’s Final Word · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 2: to her, like, girl, I want to talk to you
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  Speaker 2: up with them, beautiful ten across the board.
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  Speaker 1: Bitch Aunt Marie Wiley for.
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  Speaker 3: Having me, Carlos excited to be here. Thank you. Okay, wait,
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  Speaker 3: first I have to say, Anna Marie, Anna Marie, Anna Marie.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you're here. We're gonna clarify something. So it's
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  Speaker 2: Anna Marie, Anna Marie not an eight point five.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So let's go into that. Okay, So okay, this
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  Speaker 3: is how I approach that. I was an athlete growing up, right,
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  Speaker 3: and so I'm like, I'm never gonna have a coach
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  Speaker 3: that's like you're perfect. Everything you do is perfect, there's
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  Speaker 3: no room for improvement. You had a perfect game. My
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  Speaker 3: mindset is like there's always room for improvement. You can
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  Speaker 3: always be better, you can always create a better version
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  Speaker 3: of yourself. And so one of the things that like
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  Speaker 3: I love about my husband and we play off each
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  Speaker 3: other really well in this regard is that we always
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  Speaker 3: push each other and like he's my best friend, Like
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  Speaker 3: we have that kind of relationship. He's never gonna be like, oh, babe,
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  Speaker 3: you're perfect. Everything you do is perfect, and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you don't need to do anything better. He's like he's
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  Speaker 3: honest with me. I'm honest with him, and that's why
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  Speaker 3: I love him because I'm like I never have to
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  Speaker 3: guess if anything that he's telling me is true because
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, if he's like you're in eight point five,
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  Speaker 3: I know he's telling me the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: If that's stunning on me, I know it really does,
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  Speaker 3: because he's not just pandering to me. He's not just
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  Speaker 3: pandering saying what he thinks I need to hear. And like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I have healthy self esteem like that, like
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't need to be perfect. Nobody's perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing's perfect. You can always be.
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  Speaker 1: Better, No, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing about you because when I'm watch
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  Speaker 2: you on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I was
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  Speaker 2: so intrigued because it's not easy, and trust me, I
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  Speaker 2: know this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Easy for a newbie to enter a shell that's been
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  Speaker 2: offered many seasons and have a voice is very intimidating.
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  Speaker 2: And you came in like a wrecking ball, came Ola Cyrus.
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  Speaker 1: But I was so intrigued, really intrigued by you.
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  Speaker 2: I obviously did not and so did the rain drops
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of people who you know, watch the show.
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  Speaker 1: I never felt like I knew you.
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  Speaker 2: And what I want to do, really briefly is I
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  Speaker 2: want to get to know you because, like you just said,
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  Speaker 2: you are an athlete, So like, talk to me about
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  Speaker 2: your childhood where you like the girl that the volleyball, cheerleading, basketball,
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  Speaker 2: all those things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's like, let's bring it all the way back.
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  Speaker 3: Let's start from like the very beginning. So I'm biracial.
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  Speaker 3: I was put up for adoption when I was born.
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  Speaker 3: My mother's Dutch, my pological father's Nigerian, and I've never
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  Speaker 3: met them, so they put me up for adoption when
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  Speaker 3: I was born. I've never met them, so they put
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  Speaker 3: me it for adoption when I was born. I was
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  Speaker 3: adopted at two weeks old by a Dutch Indonesian family.
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  Speaker 3: So I grew up, you know, it was a biracial
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  Speaker 3: girl in an Asian household. And then my parents got
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  Speaker 3: divorced when I was ten, so I was raised by
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  Speaker 3: my mom, by a single mother. She raised me and
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  Speaker 3: my two sisters. I grew up in a very small
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  Speaker 3: farm town about an hour outside of Vancouver in Canada.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I was super into sports. I started running
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  Speaker 3: track when I was five. I did that all the
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  Speaker 3: way up to high school and then switched over to
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  Speaker 3: like basketball, Yes, volleyball, like all the things, but basketball
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  Speaker 3: was my primary sport and I played that through high school.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I played in college as well, and
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  Speaker 3: that was really my vehicle to you know, get my degree.
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  Speaker 3: I got my bachelor's degree in nursing. You know, because
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  Speaker 3: I didn't grow up with a lot right Like, I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I
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  Speaker 3: had to work really hard and make really good decisions
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  Speaker 3: to be where I am now. So played basketball in college,
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  Speaker 3: got my nursing degree. I moved to la six months
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  Speaker 3: after I graduated, and then I became a CRNA, met
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  Speaker 3: my husband, who was an NFL player. We got married
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  Speaker 3: for children. Later we started a nonprofit foundation to help
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  Speaker 3: youth and underserved communities. And then I was out of
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  Speaker 3: the blue, asked of me on a reality show. So
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  Speaker 3: there you go in a nutshell, that's Anna Marie.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the biggest things that you just said
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  Speaker 2: that really really makes me understand you more too, is
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you never met your biological parents and
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  Speaker 2: being a biracial girl growing up in a pretty much
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  Speaker 2: an Asian family, right, yeap. What was that like for
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  Speaker 2: you in terms of your identity? Were you aware that
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  Speaker 2: you were black biracial? Was that confusing for you at all?
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad you asked that it was. I was
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  Speaker 3: always the anomaly. I was always the girl that was different.
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  Speaker 3: I never quite fit in anywhere. There were not a
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  Speaker 3: lot of black people where I was from, so I
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  Speaker 3: was always the only black person, and you know, it
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  Speaker 3: was it was hard like not seeing people that look
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  Speaker 3: like me. And I think that was, you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of one of the factors for me moving down here
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  Speaker 3: as well, because I didn't want to always be different.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to always have to explain everything from
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  Speaker 3: from the smallest things to like why do you wrap
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  Speaker 3: your hair at night? To like, you know, why, you
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  Speaker 3: know I have a muscular frame. I feel like that's
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  Speaker 3: sometimes a little bit more accepted by like the black
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  Speaker 3: community maybe as an athlete. And so, yeah, it was,
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  Speaker 3: it was. It was hard. I struggled with my identity
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  Speaker 3: a lot growing up, and then even when I moved here,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I felt like I wasn't black enough for
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  Speaker 3: the black girls, but I wasn't white enough for the
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  Speaker 3: white girls. So I was always kind of this other category.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I just eventually, you know, matured and
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  Speaker 3: got to this age and this space in my life
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  Speaker 3: where I just really came into my own and became
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  Speaker 3: comfortable with who I am and just kind of embraced
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  Speaker 3: it and was like, you know what, I'm not like
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  Speaker 3: anybody else, and that's okay, That's what makes me me,
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  Speaker 3: That's what makes me unique, and I'm going to celebrate that.
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  Speaker 3: You Know, my husband, one of the things that he
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  Speaker 3: told me when we first met, and I'll never forget this,
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  Speaker 3: he's like, you need to always be your own biggest cheerleader.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, no one should cheer louder for you than yourself,
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  Speaker 3: and I've always carried that with me.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have any black women that were like your mentors,
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  Speaker 2: who can like educate you, like you said, this stuff
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  Speaker 2: like wrapping your hair at I and just like the
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  Speaker 2: applies that black women go through.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, I did it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Vancouver at that time, I think
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  Speaker 3: there were was maybe one black hair salon, but you
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  Speaker 3: know it was like two hours away from where I lived.
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  Speaker 3: So my mom, she used to do my hair when
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  Speaker 3: I was little. I remember sitting there in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the kitchen her doing my hair. It's so funny.
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  Speaker 3: I posted about it this morning, actually, and I hated it.
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  Speaker 3: I hated it so much. Both of my sisters one
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  Speaker 3: is Dutch Indonesian, one's half Filipinos, so you know, they've
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  Speaker 3: got really straight, dark hair, and so you know, they're
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  Speaker 3: outside playing in the sandbox doing all the things. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sitting there in the kitchen getting my hair done and
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  Speaker 3: just wishing that I had hair like my sisters and
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  Speaker 3: like the rest of my family. So no, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: learn to wrap my hair until maybe ten years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Like I just there was there was no one ten
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  Speaker 3: years ago, Carlos. There were just that's that was not
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  Speaker 3: my upbringing. There was there was not a black community
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  Speaker 3: for me. When I started running track when I was twelve,
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  Speaker 3: there was, you know, another black family who lived in
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  Speaker 3: another city, and my mom and her bonded over my
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  Speaker 3: hair actually, and so my used to drive me to
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  Speaker 3: her house about an hour away, and this woman was
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  Speaker 3: so kind she used to braid my hair for me.
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  Speaker 3: So I started getting my hair braided when I was
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  Speaker 3: I think thirteen years old, and that was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: my introduction to that. But that's kind of where that
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  Speaker 3: was the extent of it. And then when I went
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  Speaker 3: to college and Vancouver, I started driving over the border
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  Speaker 3: to Seattle to black hair salons, and you know that's
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  Speaker 3: when I was introduced to like hair extensions and all
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  Speaker 3: those kinds of things. And then you know, I moved
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  Speaker 3: to Los Angeles shortly after that, and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: my brain just went like whoa, because it was just
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  Speaker 3: it was a whole new world of stuff and I'm
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  Speaker 3: like wow, Like I was like a sponge just like
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  Speaker 3: absorbing all this black culture that I didn't grow up with,
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  Speaker 3: and I was just so so curious to learn. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was moving here was a very very big learning
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  Speaker 3: experience for me.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any desire to find and your biological parents?
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't. Growing up, my older sister was also adopted.
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  Speaker 3: She's half Indonesian and half Caucasian, and she's four years
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  Speaker 3: older than me, and she didn't have any desire to
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  Speaker 3: so I think because she didn't, I just kind of
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  Speaker 3: followed suit, like, Oh, my big sister doesn't care, so
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  Speaker 3: I don't care either, Like, and my family is wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in the most loving, huge Indonesian family,
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  Speaker 3: just the most amazing, loving family. So no, I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really care. And then as time has kind
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  Speaker 3: of gone on and I lost my mother this past year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: After that happened, I've my curiosity is kind of grown.
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  Speaker 3: And my older sister in I guess about three months
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  Speaker 3: ago now, after our mom passed, she became more curious
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  Speaker 3: and she had sent away for additional adoption paperwork that
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know existed. And the paperwork contained her
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  Speaker 3: biological father's name in it, and she actually found him
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  Speaker 3: on Facebook, so she reached out. The craziest story. They
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  Speaker 3: were both separately married, her parents they conceived her broke
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  Speaker 3: up gave her up for adoption. A year later, they
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  Speaker 3: got back together and they've been together for forty years.
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  Speaker 3: So she just reckoned. She just found them. So she has,
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  Speaker 3: you know, her parents are together, she has four brothers
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  Speaker 3: and sisters. Everyone in her biological family has you know,
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  Speaker 3: fully embraced her. She has this whole It's like a
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  Speaker 3: puzzle piece that she's had put back into place. So
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  Speaker 3: that happening for her has sorry, it has made me
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  Speaker 3: feel that void in my life. And then there's this
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  Speaker 3: story that I actually told Erica and Dreet when we
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  Speaker 3: were in Spain at the Pia dinner. I have a
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  Speaker 3: friend here in La that lives in this gated community
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  Speaker 3: and oh thank you O, my God, like all the
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  Speaker 3: real stuff. So who lives in this community? And one
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  Speaker 3: day I was visiting her house and the security guard
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  Speaker 3: and I were chit chatting on my way in and
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  Speaker 3: he's Congolese and he's like, sister, where are you from?
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  Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I'm half.
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  Speaker 3: Nigerian and he's like, okay, well, like have you been
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  Speaker 3: And I said no, I haven't. I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: was adopted. I don't know much about the culture, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know my family. There and he said, you
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  Speaker 3: were adopted and you're Nigerian. And he said, who's night
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  Speaker 3: and your mom or your dad? And I said my
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  Speaker 3: biological father and he said, you need to find him.
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  Speaker 3: He said he doesn't know you exist. He said biological
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  Speaker 3: men are biological or sorry, he said, Nigerian men don't
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  Speaker 3: leave their children. You need to find him because he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't know that you exist. So, and you know, Dare
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  Speaker 3: and Eric were, you know, they were so awesome when
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  Speaker 3: I told him this. They were so supportive and so loving.
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  Speaker 3: So that in combination with my older sister just finding
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  Speaker 3: her biological family and my mother passing so suddenly, it
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  Speaker 3: really does feel like I have this huge void in
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  Speaker 3: my life now. So I also sent away for the
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  Speaker 3: same paperwork that my sister did that and I'm waiting
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  Speaker 3: for it to come back now, and I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 3: there is, you know, a name or something in it
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  Speaker 3: additional that you know, can hopefully lead be in that
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  Speaker 3: direction to try to find him. The paperwork that I
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  Speaker 3: do have currently, my biological mother had expressed in it
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  Speaker 3: that she didn't want me to try to reach out
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  Speaker 3: to her or try to find her at all. She
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  Speaker 3: just believed that she wasn't equipped, you know, at the
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  Speaker 3: time to take care of a child, which you know,
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  Speaker 3: I fully understand and I fully respect, but because it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have any mention of him, it does make me
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  Speaker 3: wonder if he knows that I exist.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's deep because obviously it was also an
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  Speaker 2: interracial relationship and we don't know what that was like
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  Speaker 2: for your mom to deal with in her household with
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  Speaker 2: her parents, and whether or not, you know, getting pregnant
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  Speaker 2: by a black man something that just was was very
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  Speaker 2: taboo at the time. We just don't know. But the spirit,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very spiritual. The spirit that I'm feeling right now
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  Speaker 2: is I also agree with him that I don't think
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  Speaker 2: your father knows and listen, everything happens for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Absolutely, And I
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  Speaker 2: think your visibility right now could also include you reconciling
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  Speaker 2: with your biological dad and having that relationship and the
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  Speaker 2: story I want to share with you, and I'll move
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  Speaker 2: on from this after that.
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  Speaker 1: But my Miami realtor, her name is Aja Crowder.
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  Speaker 2: She's married to Channing Crowder, who has a podcast, and
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  Speaker 2: she recently met her biological father a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And he now works for her brokerage.
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  Speaker 2: They're super closed and you know, like she's like our
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  Speaker 2: age knows, you know, and she's just like she had
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  Speaker 2: to find him and.
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  Speaker 1: Is beautiful to see this adult.
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  Speaker 2: Rump woman have this and they're like this, they're like
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  Speaker 2: super tight and it happened the way it was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to happen. But my point in saying that it's never
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  Speaker 2: too late. And he's such a good grandfather to you know,
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  Speaker 2: his grandkids and they cannot get enough of him, and
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  Speaker 2: they all live in the same you know, community in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: So I wanted to share that to you so that
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  Speaker 2: you're aware that it's never too late.
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  Speaker 1: And my prayer tonight that I'll.
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  Speaker 2: When I speak to Jesus honey, because is I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to include you on my prayer list because I want
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  Speaker 2: that for you.
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  Speaker 1: And it's sad because.
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  Speaker 2: These are the things I wanted to see on The
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  Speaker 2: Real House Billy Hills, because you know, listen, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: huge fan of the show, and when you came on
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  Speaker 2: the show, I'm like, Wow, she's kind of like the
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  Speaker 2: most unlikable person on this I've ever seen on Housewise,
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  Speaker 2: like what is going on here?
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm like, I want to give sister
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  Speaker 1: a chance. Listen, what about black people? We're like, I'm alright.
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  Speaker 2: For you because when black people watch Family Feud, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well alert we group with the black people. We're watching
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  Speaker 2: family Feud for the black family, right, it is what
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: We're like, you guys were running on one. Prove us
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  Speaker 1: right hard?
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  Speaker 3: Si?
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  Speaker 2: So right, how did you get the call to even like,
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  Speaker 2: did you audition casting tape?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't audition for well, okay, so this is how
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  Speaker 3: it happened, Kyle.
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  Speaker 1: So when we moved.
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  Speaker 3: From our old home to our new home two and
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  Speaker 3: a half years ago, we bought our house through the agency,
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  Speaker 3: right Mauricio's company. And then maybe so fast forward to
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  Speaker 3: the holidays. Right before they they asked me to come on. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so December two thousand, what is this twenty twenty two maybe,
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  Speaker 3: and they had a VIP event or some of their
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  Speaker 3: clients at their home. My husband and I are running
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: around the holiday scene doing all the parties and we're like, oh,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: it's on our street. They live on our street. So
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: we were like, yeah, let's go drop by. So we
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: go and they thought my husband was like hysterical because
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: he has such a character and so they totally hit
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: it off and I didn't even talk that much that night.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: And then so fast forward three months, Kyle sends me
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: a message and she's like, hey, we just started filming
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: season thirteen of Housewives and the producers are interested in
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: talking to you. Do you have any interest? And I
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: show this to my husband because I was like like what,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: and like what do I do with this? Because this
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: had never been anything that was like, you know, on
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: my radar, in my realm. You know, I was very
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: happy being like a private person. My husband obviously is
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: a public person, very happy being a private person, taking
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: care of the home, the family, going to work, doing
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: all my things. And I never really saw myself in
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: that light. But and my husband was like, you know
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: what I've been telling you for years. He's like, you're
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: such a dynamic person. You're a multi hyphen it. You
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: have this huge personality and a story to tell. He's like,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I think you should do it. He's like, I think
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: it would be a great platform to get your message out. Ultimately,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I just want to inspire and motivate people. That's literally
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: all I'm about. And he's like, I think this would
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: be a great platform for you to do it. And
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, say yes, say all
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: the yeses, Like why not? You know what I mean,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I'm in this point in my life, I'm forty one
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: years old. Why not? So they called me like two
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: seconds later, and then casting called me two seconds later.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Right after that, I did my casting tape maybe two
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: days later, and I was filming it within two weeks.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: What Yeah, So they had already been filming for six
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: weeks when they reached out to me, and then so
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: then I was just kind of you know, went in
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: there week eight and yeah, so that was that was that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Did you want the show? Prior to being on.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: It, i'd watched maybe the first maybe like five seasons
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: or something, you know, like way back in the day,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: like you know, before kids, before I was married, all
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. I hadn't watched it, and I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: don't know however many years so when they cast me
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and when they were working when my contract was being negotiated,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I binge watched all of the last season because I
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: was like, who are these people?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: What is happening? What am I about to do?
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Like I didn't know anything, So I binge watched it
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: and then and then yeah, first night show up at
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Kyle's house for the wee dinner. So that was it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: That was it. It happened very fast and fully, fully
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: What's funny is again me being a producer. Yeah, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: see things that the audience may not always see, right
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: for sure, So I knew the moment you were inserted. Yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I said, nothing was happening the first couple of weeks clearly,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and they needed a fireball to come in and to
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: sort of like change the temperature in the room. Teddy
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Meller Camp is a good friend of mine. I've been
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: on her podcast and she and I even talked about
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the fact because she filmed the scene that never aired.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And what's funny is the scene she and I spoke
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: about her podcast. She got into it with somebody. I'm like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: oh my god, Stady's back, and I'm like, girl, are
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you going to like Bee a friend of And she
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: said they called me to come back, and I.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Said, I need to get paid really, yes, didn't tell
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: me that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, yes, She's like, you know, and I was like, well, girl,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: nothing must be happening then. And then when I'm watching
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the show and I saw you inter the Weed dinner.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, And what I enjoyed about you is
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you did not seem intimidated.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: The camera does love you.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: You're very comfortable, and that's a very intimidating crowd to
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: be around. I mean, to be at a dinner with
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Camille Grammer, Denise Richards and the beauty of you Anna Marie,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: you were sort of like the voice of the audience
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: because you were like, Okay, what's going on here?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we talking? What exactly? Confused?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Did you get inserted because nothing was happening and they
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: needed to make sure that you came in and may
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: shit pop.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that, but you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: you've been in this space for a very long time,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and they, I mean, they had a reason for having
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: me come in mid season. You know, I don't know
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: exactly what that is. I feel like, you know, I
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: kind of think you said it well, like I think
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you know what the reason was, because I don't think
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: they usually have people enter mid season unless there is
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: a clear reason for what that reason was. I don't
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know exactly.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like you were there to fill
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: a black quota.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Really I felt like
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: going into it, I really thought that it was more
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: of a family thing. Like I thought that they really
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: wanted to show my life and my family, you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: because all the things that I kept seeing in the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: press when they found out or when it was leaked
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: that I was going to be filming for the show,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: was about how she has this big, full life. You know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: she has a famous husband, she has a career, she
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: is a philanthropist with a foundation, she has four children.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Like they just kept talking about this big, full life
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: that I had. And so that was actually the reason
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: that I thought that I was, you know, inserted into
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: the cast, because I thought that they, you know, wanted
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: to show a different element, you know. I thought they
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: wanted to show somebody that, you know, could could kind
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: of check a lot of boxes and fill a lot
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: of spaces and kind of maneuver through the girls and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the dynamics. Because I'm a people person, like I can
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: get along with anybody, literally anybody. And when you say that,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: it seemed like I was really comfortable when I came
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in and I was at that dinner. It's like, I mean,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I'm around a lot of famous people, a lot, right,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Like it is, it's never been about me, but I've
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: always I've been around it for twelve years, you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: So it wasn't it wasn't an intimidating thing in that regard.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: And you know, going back to when we were talking about,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: you know, me moving here and me finding my identity
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: and really finding my voice, like all that really really
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: hard work that I had to do on myself really
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: gave me a strong sense of who I am. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: so there aren't many situations that I really feel uncomfortable.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And because I've lived that, you know, I had twenty
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: years of feeling uncomfortable and I'm like now I'm like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I'm grounded in who I am. So there, So it
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: was I didn't feel and I didn't feel or uncomfortable
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: walking into that group of ladies, and I thought that
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I thought that that's what the show wanted to highlight.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Well, now I was excited when you were announced because
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the thing about the show that I felt was missing
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: is we want to see a wealthy black family, you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: black husband, black wife, black kids. That's right, you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like we desire and by we, I'm speaking of the community, right,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: we decide to see, like we want to see a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: wealthy black.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Fa you know this is this is Beverly Hills. Yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: black wealth, minority. Wealth is everywhere everywhere. Yeah, because y'all
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: are wealthy. Yeah, I'm also very humble. I'm just gonna
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: put that right out there, like I yes, yes we
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: are wealthy, but I've I'm not the person that's going
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: to be like, you know, I know this person, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I know this person, and these are my circles and
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: this is what I have. Like you know, when we
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: were when we were filming, like what is what's the
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: most expensive thing your husband's ever bought you? And I
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm not going to answer that, do you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: because that's just not it's just not my personality, do
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You can look at my
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: lifestyle and you can see what I have, But I'm
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: not the person that's going to be like, you know what,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: what's that? What is that thing? They say, like, h
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: what is it? Confidence is quiet?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Like something like yeah, no, it's it's yeah, it's somebody
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: tell me mel.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: It's something like money's loud, but confidence is quiet. It's
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: something along those lines. Whereas when you have a lot
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: of money. You don't brag about it. It's sort of
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: like if you can, you can. You can see when
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: someone has it doesn't have to tell you, and when
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: your confidence is quiet because people you know that they
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: see it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And that's what we saw with you.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: And we have a mutual friend in comment because they
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: had His name is Justin Goodron.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I think he's friends with George.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh yay. Oh, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: love him too much.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been For instance, I was an intern alabet
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: back in like two thousand and like five.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I can't and he and I are super closed.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And he posted in his stories you had a premiere party, yes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, you know them, and he said, Lows,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: they are good people.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna I want to.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I want the world to know because my mutual friend
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and his wife they were at your house and he
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: said to me, prior to even us watching you on
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the show, He's like, you're gonna love them, Carlos, because
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they are good people and they're funny and they have it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So I want the world to know that there's people
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: in my life who I trust that has.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Said nothing but great things about you and your family.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I that's one thing I will braag about.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I'll brag about my family. Like are we we are?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: We are? We are? We are good people. My husband
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: is the most intelligent, kind hearted individual I have ever met.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Like he what he does for me, what he does
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: for our children, what he does for the community, the
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: kids that benefit from our foundation, all the kids he mentors,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: the kids he coaches. He is the most stand up person.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And that's why I married him. I'm like, I want that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I literally I want to be like him, and that's
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: why I'm with him. And I wanted that from my children,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you know, again, not having you know, that strong black
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: community growing up in I was like, there there are
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: things that I can't teach my children. And I know
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: that because I don't even know them yet. I need
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: a man that is going to be so strong and
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: so steadfast that he can instill in my offspring those
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: things that I don't even have. That's why I chose him.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: But we we are. We are the people Like now
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: that you're friends with my friends, we're friends. Like yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: that's odd, seriously, Like you're coming over to play put.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: The wall tomorrow?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Like that is that is the Wileys. We call our
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: house Wiley's World. If we have mutual friends, you're my
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: friend because it's like you're vetted, do you know what
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I mean? And that's how we approach like everybody. That's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: why you won't find anybody that has that, anybody that
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: knows us, you won't find anybody that has anything bad
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to say about it, because we pride ourselves on being
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: good people because that's just who we are. We are
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: very honest, We're very honest. We love having fun, we
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: love people. We always have people over at our house
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: like we just so yeah, I'll brag about my family
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: all day. But you know, and going back to like
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: the money piece and everything, it's like, you know, like
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I know billionaires who walk around in T shirts you
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like you know you know what
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like you know, like the most famous people
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: in the world are not doing that, Like why would
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I that? And that's just because it's my reality and
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: so you know, when we're at the reunion, it was
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: so funny when Andy asked that question. He was talking
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: about Sutton's income from her her spousal support and then
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: he's like, Anri, what do you think about that, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, Andy, why are you asking you that question?
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: He's like, that's what he does, but you know, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: my answer was that, you know, like that's just not
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: that's not what me and my circles do, cause it's like, why,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: it's your reality, So why would you do it? You
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, I don't know you can
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: see it. If you can see it, then why do
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I have to stay with you?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Honey?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: We saw it, But what we did see, Anna Marie,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: we did not get a chance to see any house
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: reality with you.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: We did not.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Were you taping scenes your husband and your family at
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: home a ton that we just never saw a ton?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Why weren't we able to see these scenes?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: When you talk about the fact that your announcement was leaked,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: what was also leaked were these uncoverings of people saying
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that your husband was saying transphobic comments. Did that have
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: anything to do with these scenes being cut out?
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I'm you know, I am
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: so happy to address that. And I also want to
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: make it very clear that calling someone transphobic is a
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: very hurtful, very disgusting, and very damaging thing to say.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not transphobic. I support the trans community, I support
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: trans rights, I support women's sports. No one is transphobic.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: So we you know, we did we did film that, and.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: You guys filmed the conversation about the transphobic work we did.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did, really, yes, and I who all the ladies.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: It was all of us together, the housewives, all the
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: housewives together. We filmed this, and you know, it was
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: literally hours and hours of me being badgered and attacked
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: on on this this topic. And you know, my my
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: stance was, and I was very clear about it, didn't
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: shy away from it at all, was that, you know,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: the issue arises because of the topic of transgendered female
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: athletes competing in sports with cisgendered female athletes. And you
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: know my husband's stance on it is that he, you know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: is not in support of it. He's in support of
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: their being safe spaces for everybody, and and I agree
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: with that. And you know, so we we talked about this.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: You know, I said things like, you know, if you're
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: comparing hand size, heart size, lung capacity, muscle mass, you know,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: all of wingspan, all of those sorts of things, then
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: there is going to be an advantage in one over
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: the other. And as a female athlete who played, you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: for so many years, I can I can see that
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: and that's why, you know, that's why I say that,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: you know, And I brought up comparisons to them, you know.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, Lisa Leslie versus Lebron James, Lisa, I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: love you, brother, She's like a dear friend of mine.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Lisa versus Lebron. Right, I was like, what's going to happen?
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Serena versus Djokovic? Right, what's going to happen? Like I think?
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: And you know, they none of them were athletes, so
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: it's hard to have It was hard to have that
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: conversation with them in that regard because I think they
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: were just so focused on how is the audience going
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: to take this pandering? Right? It was. It was all
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: about pander and virtue signaling. There wasn't any you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: rational logical conversation behind it, because this isn't something that
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: they you know, they're just they just want to label
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: me as transphobic like that that standing up for women's
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: sports and believing that there's a biological difference if someone
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: has gone through male puberty, that doesn't make me or
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: my husband transphobic. We support the trans community, we support
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: trans rights, we support women's sports. Right, you know, I
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: had there's a there's a video of Serena Williams from
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: years ago. She was on I want to say Letterman,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: and you know, she essentially says the same thing too.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: She was talking about I think it was Andy. Andy
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Murray had asked her to play against him, and she's like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: if I played against Andy, he would beat me six oh,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: six oh in like five to six minutes, maybe ten minutes.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: But like, you know, it's it's a difference. It's a
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: different sport, right, men's tennis. Women's said, it's a different sport.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: She's like, they're stronger, they're faster, he would destroy me.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: I don't want to play with them. I don't want
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: to play with I want to play women's tennis. She
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: said this. You can google it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: So, but this was pre this whole issue of or
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: topic of transgendered females competing in cystendered sports, and so
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: before it was an issue, nobody really cared. But now
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: that it's such a big issue, nobody wants to talk
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: about it, nobody wants to touch it because look what
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: happened to us. We get labeled transphobic for doing it
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: behind closed doors. Please trust and believe ninety percent of
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: people think that way. It's just that we live in
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: a society where if you say things like that, you're
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: going to get quote unquote canceled or labeled or something.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: People are so afraid of telling the truth and going
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: back to who the wilies are? We are truth tellers,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: you know there are There is another housewife that that
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: even agreed with me. We had this conversation and she agreed,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: she's she agreed with that stance. Oh gurse, I agreed
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: with that stands she won't say it publicly, of course,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: but yeah, so you know. And then there was a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: whole nother issue also talked about that night, and something
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: floating around from that that recent article saying like, oh,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: you're best friends with Candace Owens and let me we're
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: gonna let's talk about that. I have never met Candace Owens.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know her. Remember years ago, when that campaign
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: came out, there was a fashion designer, a fashion house
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: that put out a campaign that you know, was basically
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: theorized to be like a pedophile you know, a pedophile
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: campaign and you know, I'm a mother to four children.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I was I was outraged. I'm just gonna put that
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: out there. I was absolutely outraged when I saw this,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: and I felt like there were a lot of people
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: that weren't talking about it. I was, you know, waiting, like,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: where's the outrage. This is children we're talking about. This
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: is not okay. And Candace Owens was one of the
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: very few people that I felt like was actually speaking
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: out about it. So I started following her on Instagram.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: And from following someone on Instagram to them becoming your
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: best friend, it's a very very big space between there.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Who labeled you and Candace Owens as being best.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Friends when I started filming last year. It's like one
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: of you know, the blog site or like I say
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: it was it was written. It was a written article
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: that said, like Anne Marie Wiley, wife of Marcella's Wiley,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: filming for Housewives, and he's transphobic and the Wileys are
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: transphobic and she's best friends with Candace Owens. Like that's
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: where all this stuff came from.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: This Someone on the show addressed the Candace Owens.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, then while Garcel kept saying, well, it was
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: the candas o ones of it all for me. And
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: when you see the new article that just came out
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: a few days ago and with all of the quotes
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: from Garcel and Crystal, which I found very suspicious. It
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: you know, it went back to when we were at
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: the reunion and when I, you know, called out the
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: double standard or the hypocrisy of Garcel, you know, labeling
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: to read a Karen because she used the word attack
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: when she talked about her, And when I said, why
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: is it that when Durte says that to you, it's
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: not okay? And let me also say this. The first
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: thing I said was that I agreed with Garcel. You
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: should not call black women angry and you should not
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: call black women aggressive. I said, I agree with that, Garcel.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: But I also want to point out this, Why is
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: it that when Dree does it to you, it's not okay?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: But when Sutton does it to me, no one says anything.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: You didn't you didn't even say anything. You didn't you
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: didn't stand up for me, and you didn't say anything.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: What does she say to that?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Because I watched that ever she said, so she never
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: never aired the comment.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: She that's what she said. She in that article, it
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: says what she said. She said, Oh, you want to
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: know why because as soon as I found out that
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: you were best friends with Candace Owens, I decided I
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: don't mess with you. You hear that, Bravo, You better
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: leave that in Bravo. That's what was said, and you
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: can read that in that article. That's coming from that article,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: and that's what was said. So again it goes back
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: to her, you know, trying to be you know, I'm gonna,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you out there as the other black
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: woman who you know is best friends with Candace Owens,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: the woman I've never met before, because I'm gonna I'm
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: gonna power to the people that you know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Correct when you came on the show, do you think
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Garcel wanted to be only black woman on Beverly Hill's Housewives?
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I did get that feeling.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Was she welcoming to you?
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: She was? And then she wasn't. She was, And then
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: as the show started airing and playing out, and you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'm being portrayed in this light
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: and I'm the quote unquote villain at least I think
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I was. Then she wasn't anymore. And then I think
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: you know, that's what why you saw or sorry you
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: didn't see, but that's why you're hearing now of what
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: she said at the reunion, because I think now she's like, well,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: people don't like her anyway, so why do I have
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: to stand by her? I don't. I don't need to
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: stand by her. So and you know, she was very
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: she was very quick too, and I don't. I really
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: don't think she liked me pointing out that hypocrisy because
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I think that she's been able to get away with
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: unnecessarily playing the race card so many times unchallenged because
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: who can challenge her? Right? The other ladies can't challenge her,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: So I think that's been her play for so long.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: So then when I'm there and as a black woman,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I can say, you know what, why didn't you speak
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: out about my microaggressions or at least support me? And
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: she didn't like that, right, she didn't like that at all,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: And so I think that that Sorry, I'm just like
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: having a little brain fright here.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I think what you're saying is the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: fact that it was unfortunate because you came on the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: show and obviously you know there's another black woman there again.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: We the audience was excited.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, Garcell, you have somebody at least yes that can
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: relate to you on these issues. And you're telling me
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that the stuff we did not see on the show.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Oftentimes she never wants supported you.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: When it's yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: And I mean we had a great, a great meeting
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: together at my house that we that we filmed, and
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: it was awesome. You know, we we had all these
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: things in common. We really delved into, you know, her
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: when she moved here and what that was like for her,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: and when I moved here what that was like for her.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: You know, we have a lot of those sort of
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: identity things in common. You know, it was a very
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: unique experience for us, both moving here from different countries,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: and so I felt like we really bonded over that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: But like I said, once the show started playing, she
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: you know, she played a different tune and it you
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: know when I was watching it back, and all the
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: things especially that she would say in her confessionals.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: You know have co Garsell confessional gangsta, yes, but they
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: were also like things on confessional but not to your
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: face right exactly.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: But then it's like, where is if you're so pro black,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: where is your support for your sister that you were supporting,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: but now you're not behind her back?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Where did that? Where did that go? You know? Why
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: are you trying to throw me under the bus with
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: this Candace Owens thing that is fabricated out of nowhere
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: when we've already discussed and you know that it's not
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: a real thing. You know, where where are you supporting
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: me when your best friend Sutton is you know, a
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: week after we film the reunion using that exact same
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: word attack again on Watch What Happens Live? You know
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: it's the exact same thing. She should have gone to
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: her friend Sutton and said Sutton not okay to say
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: she's yelling at you and she's not Sutton. We just
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: talked about this last week at the reunion. You just
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: said that she attacked you on Watch What Happens Live?
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Like it's the same It's the exact same thing, but
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: she only wants to call it when it applies to her.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Are those women afraid to go against gar Cell because
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: they will be called Karen's a racist?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I would be if I wasn't black, I would be.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: You see that when you're filming do you see that?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Do you sense that like they're there. It seems like
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: and again, audience member here, it does seem like those
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: women do not want to go against Garcel at all
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: because they fear of being called a racist.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I don't know that
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: for sure. No one's ever said that to me, but
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I would feel that way. And
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: another thing from the reunion, if you look at all
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: of Garcel's reactions to when Derey was speaking, you know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: constantly talking under her breath and rolling her eyes and
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: kind of doing like the snarky giggle, reverse those roles.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: If that was Deret doing that to Garcel, all hell
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: would have broken loose. All hell would have broken loose.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: But she gets the pass, she gets to do that,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: and it's just again the hypocrisies, so many hypocrisies.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Do you think one of the other reasons why you
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: were cast is because maybe you could be the only
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: one that could have an opinion I mean to Garsel
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and not be called out.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Of their name.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, absolutely plausible, because it's true. I could
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: write and I did. I pointed out that it was
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: a double standard, and she got really she got really
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: angry at it. So but it is true. Like anybody
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: can see that, right it is. It is true. You're
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: calling it one side and not the other. That is
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: a double standard.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I want to get into Crystal for a second. My
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: views as a viewer is that I also think Crystal
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: panned pandas to the audience. Crystal, in my opinion, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: don't get anything genuine from her as I watched the show.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I don't really care about your brother and his ex girlfriend.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't, I don't care. I'm going to
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: tell you what I care about again. Producer did nine
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: seasons of Atlanta Housewives, two of Jersey, Like, I kind.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Of know what I'm talking about here. I don't care
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: about your brother and his ex girlfriend crying. I don't,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm gonna give a shit about that.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: You're a housewife and you're holding a diamond, so let's
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: invest in your world.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I really am.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Intrigued by this marriage that she has. I think her
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: husband seems like a great guy. I'm so intrigued by
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: this so his life, you know, being involved in Lion King,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and you know it came out that Crystal has this,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: you know, multi million dollar business with water. I believe
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: it is, but we don't see none of those things.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I'm so curious about how one person can lose fourteen
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: friends within a weekend. I'm so intrigued by that. But
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I don't get any of those things from her. I get.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I get phony baloney, and not Oscar Mayer. So, as
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: you're filming with her and we saw seasoned, I want
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: to address this as a.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Viewer and a producer.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I won thousand percent believe she called those women uneducated.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I watched the show when Crystal, in her mind, is
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: telling her truth. I do believe one hundred percent that
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Crystal did believe sudden walking to her room was a violation.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I believe that because she has such passion for it
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: that I was like, I didn't think she did intentionally,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: but Crystal is so believable in her passion. I'm ot
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: at you, Sis, that's your passion, and I believe it.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: When you said, no, Sis, you call these women uneducated
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: and saw all these things, she gave you nothing, And
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I thought to myself, wait a second, this woman is
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: now pretty much saying things that could question your character.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: And you don't have anything to say. So I said,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: oh Anna, Marie's telling the truth. Girlfriend, she told you
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: this right, Yeah.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Of course she did.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: What who makes that up? Like?
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Why already said, like, I don't I don't lie. Like
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: you know, I made a lot of mistakes doing this show,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: but like one thing I don't do is I don't lie.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Why would I make that up? And it's such a
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: specific thing. So Crystal and I met around the same
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: time Kyle and I met the Holidays, about three months
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: before this all happened, and we met. We have we
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: have a bunch of mutual friends, and we met at.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: A the fourteen she lost on the fourth, well, I
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: know a couple of those fourteen two like one question
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that we'll move on. Is it true that some of
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: those fourteen friends.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Left her because when Housewives called them to do the
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: show Crystal Carlos I heard allegedly that those fourteen friends,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: maybe thirteen or twelve of them were called to do
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the real house spots of Belly Hills, and that Crystal
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: told them not to do the show. But when Crystal
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: got the phone call, she never told those fourteen friends
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and she did the show anyway.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: You're very smart, You're very smart. Okay, yeah, continue, yep,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: you're very smart. So we met and our conversation went
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: as follows. You know, our friend introduced us and I'm like,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: what do you do? She's like, I'm a housewife, which
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: like she denied, well because like she's very she loves
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: being a housewife. That girl loves being a housewife. Let
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: me tell you she loves being a house It is her.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: She loves being a housewife.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, a housepot, but belly Hills, not a housewife inside
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: With the nanny.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like the show is like, is she this
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: girl was gonna fight tooth and nail to keep her diamond.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Let we we'll get into that. So she's like, I'm
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: a housewife, and I was like, oh yeah, And you know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: you go into the regular questions like are you guys
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: really friends, like the same thing people would ask me, right,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: you guys really friends? You guys hang out all that
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff. And then she's like what do you do?
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: And I said I am a nurse anesthetist, and then
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: she kind of looked at me puzzled like this, and
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: then I said I do anesthesia and then she goes, oh,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: She's like, my sister is an anethesioldist, and I was like, oh, yes, perfect,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: she'll know what I do then, because do you know
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: what a nurse anesthetist is or a nurse anetheysiologist?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: You do me?
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: No? I know.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So that's the thing. We'll get into that.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: We'll get into that too. So that's a whole as
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: you saw, that's a whole nother can of worms. So
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: that was that conversation. And then so then you see
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: on the show where she's like, well, you called yourself
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: a doctor. She say doctor or antis olgist or something
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: like that, and I was like, I'm a board certified
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: nurse anesetis and like that's what I told you. So
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: she made that up. And this is the funny thing too,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: is we've seen it. You watch watch the show. Right,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: as Denise said, watch the show, you can see when
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: she you know, she's got that whole thing about her
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: fourteen friends, she's got last season or whatever it was,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: where you know, she went a whole it's a whole
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: season right of implying that Sutton was racist because she
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: said something so dark, she left He's that Sutton was
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: so racist for a year and then finally said, Oh,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: it's just a feeling like that. And then now this
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: thing with me misrepresenting my title, so now let's go
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: into this. She she really she knew that her time
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, getting cut short. She needed to
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: really bring it and she you know, who better to
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: like go at than the newbie who? And I I
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: thought that was my girl. Like, as soon as I
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: got cast, got her number from a friend of ours,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: called her up. We had this like hour and a
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: half long conversation. I thought she was like really going
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: to have my back. I was like, Oh, this is
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: going to be so great, gonna have fun. We're gonna
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: be like, you know, the little Spunky ones or whatever,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: and she and she was really helpful. You know. Before
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: we were like going to the weed dinner at Kyle's house.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I'm texting her what are you wearing? I show her
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: what I'm wearing. Oh so cute? Yeah great, great great.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: We're in the cars outside waiting to go in. Yeah
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I'm here waiting, you know, we're you know, and then
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: but what do you see in the confessional? Oh that
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: bitch is nosy. I was like, we were just texting
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: from the car, you know what I mean. So she
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: was a very different person off camera versus on camera.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: So I was her opportunity to start that drama. So
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: when she so, we're en route to Spain and she
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: she told me that she said that, so that she
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: this is what she said. I walk out of the
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Chanelle store. All the girls from the Shanelle store were shopping,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: and she's outside and production's out there and there's no
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: cameras anything. I walk out and she's acting normal. And
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: this is like halfway there. We're in like Heathrow or something. Right,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: She's acting normal and we haven't spoken since a week
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: before at Duri's event when she called me a B
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: word and accused me of title misappropriation and or misrepresentation.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: And she she's acting normal. I'm like, Crystal, like, what
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: are you doing. I'm like, this is my career, Like
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: this isn't funny, you know, And she's like, no, no, no, no, no,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: it's fine. Like Lisa Renna used to make up stuff
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: all the time. It's totally fine. I'm just so happy
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: because now I have a storyline, I have my drama
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: for the year, and I'll get to come back next year. Verbatim, verbatim, verbatim,
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: she said we would go to dinner that night and
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: we would make up at dinner and everything would be fine.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: And she she never she just kept doubling down, doubling down,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: doubling down all the time, kept doubling down on it,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: and that so that when you see me like not
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: being able to like let it go, when she's like, oh,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: I thought she wouldn't let it go until pigs flew
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: like because you're lying about me, and you admitted that
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: you're lying about me for your benefit, and I trusted
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: you was there were a lot of people I trusted
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: in this process. I'm a very Canadian, Like I don't know,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I'm a very trusting person, you know, I don't I
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: don't do people wrong in my life, so I don't
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: expect people to do me wrong. My mistake, I should
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: not have assumed that, But I why would I not?
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: You know, why why would I assume that someone was
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: intentionally wanting to do bad things to me, you know,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: or use me for their benefit? You know. But that's
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: that's what happened. And she was, you know, she was
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: also really the one that was like, you know, leading
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: the whole oh you're transphobic thing, that narrative. She was
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: the one who was like really pushing that as well.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: And then you know, I brought up to them, I said,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: you know, if you are so for this cause, I
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: was like, do you know what happened today in Florida?
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: And keep in mind this is a year ago, and
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: everyone's like what?
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, do you know?
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Since you want a virtue signal and pander so much,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: do you know what happened today in Florida? And I
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: was like, there was an act passed today in Florida
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: that a healthcare professional can can deny care to anybody
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: in the LGBTQIA community based on their ethical beliefs. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: was like, but you didn't know that, did you. You
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: didn't know that because you don't really care, you're just pandering.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I know that because I
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: actually do care.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: There has been recently went on social media and we
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: have seen him call Garcel she's a con in the
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: word conflict confused, I mean confused.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: He he obviously.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Feels strongly about your experience on the show, and you
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: know the things that these ladies are saying.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: But but but also not really like it's even like
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: I was he he's the guy like he's been doing this,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: he's been in this world for thirty years. Like he's
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: like he's the one, he's the sounding board for me.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: You know. Even during this whole process, he's like, it's fine,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: it's TV. Like, calm down, it's TV. You're fine, you
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I think it was more
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: it's just it's a husband defending his wife.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Like he's not emotionally charged by it at all. He's
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: just he's just a husband defending his wife. Which you know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: that's what that's what they do.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: So here we are.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: This season is wrapped, I said him a podcast after
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: watching part one reunion, I said, rain drops, I feel
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Anna Marie now, and I said, I feel horrible for
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: you know, saying, like, girls, what was going on with her?
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I thought you were First of all, you have my
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: complete condolence. Sys when it comes to your mom, thank you.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I lost my mother. It changes you forever. Absolutely, the
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: fact that it was filmed when you got the news
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't shown, and your vulnerability was so beautiful
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: at the reunion that I advocated for you to come back.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I said, look, Carlos King can't even admit as he's
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: watching the show, like I don't look I felt this way.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: But that's to me, Anna Marie. That's the beauty of
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: being a viewer. How you're you know, you're only as
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: good as your last episode for sure, right that that's
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the beauty of reality television. And I was telling my
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: listeners that, you know, I want her to come back.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I think she deserves a second chance. She's so beautiful,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: and she was able to show us a side of
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: her that we just didn't see. And I said, and
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I felt like she wasn't given the proper setup because
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: when a new beinters in the middle of the season,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of pressure because you're only doing that
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: truly because nothing's happening, and it's sort of.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Like, well, God makes some should happen, like you know, damn.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: So I felt that, well, maybe she'll get another season
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: because we're able to see that.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Did you think that as well?
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: So you thought I'm going to give me another season
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: after the reunion wrapped.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I did, I really did. And for a couple of reasons,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: like you touched on, you didn't see me, you didn't
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: see me and my family, you didn't see me as
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: a mom. You didn't see me and my husband and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: our like hysterical dynamic. You don't see me at work.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: You don't see me working out, don't. You don't even
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: see me one on one with any of the ladies.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: You don't see me at lunch with anybody individually. You
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: don't see me bonding with anybody. You don't see me
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: having fun with anybody. You don't see me. You don't
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: see you don't see my personality, right, don't. You don't
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: know my story? You don't You don't know where I'm from.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: You don't you don't know my mom just passed away.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: You don't know I have adoption trauma, Like you know
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: nothing about me. So you know I did. I really
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: thought that I would be back for another season. I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: felt like it would be really I thought it would
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: be really redeeming, and I thought that it would be
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: really fun because I was like, you know what, I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: went into this with two weeks in two weeks, didn't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: you know, didn't really have like a bear ring, just
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: kind of like all right, let's go, you know. And
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: so now that you've you know, you've done a season,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: you've done a full cycle or whatever you want to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: call it. You know you you kind of know how
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: it is. You know how it works. Now, you know
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: what I mean, and you know the kinds of things
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: to advocate for yourself, to to put out there right,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: like I don't care about it's suddens esophagus. I could
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: not care less, could not care less.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: By the way about.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Okay see, and I'm sorry.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: So then you really were mad, Like no, I'm because
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I'm a viewer.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we like listen, we like silly like beefs and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: but it was. And that's the thing is I think
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: that's serious.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: So I went back then Nicole and who I Love
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: by the way, and Tiffany Moon, and I was lying.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: The ASA, what is happening again? It was it was
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: a funny housewipe y be.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: I think it would have been funny had it come
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: from somebody like the Hilton or Sutton, right, But when
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: it's coming from me, a black woman, I'm a black
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: healthcare professional. We get beaten up all day long, beaten
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: up all day it's not funny. It's not funny when
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: it comes from me, right, It's not funny when it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: comes from me. That's why you know, I got Crystal
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: was attacking my profession. Those other ladies you mentioned were
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: attacking my profession. The ASA was attacking me. I got like,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: I got attacked from so many angles. And yes, I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: think it would have been funny had it come from
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: somebody else, but not coming from a black healthcare professional.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I am too big of a target.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Never looked at it that way. If Kathy Hilton, who
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I love by the way, Yeah, she's hilarious.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: She's hilarious, if she would have said something about that,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: or because it's the shtick of it all. And that's
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: why me as are like, oh this is funny, silly, whatever,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: because it's hard for me to take vitamins.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: That's how small my shit is. Yeah, So I never
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: looked at it that way.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, girls, I have not. I did not have problems,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: not any one of them.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I never looked at it that way. It wasn't what
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: was said. It was the messenger. It said it was
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: a black woman, a healthcare profession.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: And somebody who's new. And I don't. I don't have
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: anything to balance it out. You don't know me any
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: other way. You know, I don't. I don't have a
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: personal story. You don't see me at home. With my family, right,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: So that's all you see. If this maybe if this
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: was my second season and that happened, and you had
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: already gotten a sense of who I was as a person,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: and then that happened, you'd be like, oh, this is ridiculous,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: but we love her because we love her kids or something.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: But we don't. We don't even have that. You don't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: have that. That's all you have. So it's like you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: have this black health care professional coming in there from
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere, non stop, NonStop talking about Sutton's esophagus.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Of course people were mad. Of course I hated it,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: trust me, like nobody hated it more than me. Every
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: time I would, I would watched an episode, cringe, cringe,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: like it's still happening, it's still happening.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you made iconic moment. The ratings went up
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: this season, so thank you that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Listen. That was one of Sutton's biggest storylines.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: And you know another thing too, is like who started that?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Where did that come from? Who brought it up? Kyle?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Kyle brought it up at her at the dinner or
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: the weed dinner at her house. She's the one who
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: brought it up. It came from her, right, And but
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: it only mattered when I talked about it. Even at
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: the reunion, they talked about it, they talked about it
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: came from Kyle. Kyle is the one who started that
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: whole narrative. But it only mattered when I said it.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: And you know, there there were so many things that
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: were said about a lot of people, right, like Sutton's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: eating Kyle's. You know, Kyle was body shamed and sober shamed,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: and they were talking about Suttons drinking, right, so many
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: things were said. But everybody else has a what do
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: you call it?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: They they have what do you call it? Like? A
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: like you know them already. Every everybody has a background already, Yeah, everybody,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: everybody's But no, they're just established as themselves to the viewers.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: This is the audience, but the audio.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Everybody's established as as a person to the viewers. So
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: they're saying something like, you know, like talking about Sutton's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: putting vodka in or coffee in the morning, like that's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: not cool to say, but we've seen all these other
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: things about her and we love her, So that's just
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: a drop in the bucket, whereas like my bucket is
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: empty and that's all you see dropped in my bucket.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: That's it. It's all you see dropped in my bucket,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: you know. So, But yeah, it's you know, a lot
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: of a lot of things happen, and there's a lot
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: of things that you know, I you know I, And
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: I'll be the first to say, like, I hated watching it.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I made tons of mistakes and you know, yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Recently the Daily Mail reported that you were not being
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: asked to come back, and Garcel and Crystal made a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: comment that you were allegedly leg go because of your
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: right wing beliefs and that you are a Trump supporter.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Are you a Trump supporter?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not a Trump supporter, you know. I When I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: saw that, it just it goes to show you how
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: people can say anything they want to and it gets traction.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: We've never even had that conversation. No one's ever even
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: asked me about my political views and beliefs. But for
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: the record, I'm not a Trump supporter. But I do
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: find it really interesting that they feel like they get
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: to bully someone into deciding who they vote for. Like
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: we're we're this is not a communist country, right, this
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: is this is a free country. People can have the
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: political beliefs that they want to have, and the fact
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: that they use that as as a way to attack
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: me and bully me is so it's it's just it's unbelievable. Really,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: it's absolutely unbelievable that we live in a day and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: age where people can be bullied for their for their beliefs.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: And again, you know, it goes back to that pandering
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: and that virtue signaling. Ask them what they are, who
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: do they support? I don't know, we've never talked about
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: that before, but for them to just blindly say, oh,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: we're going to call you a mega Trump supporter.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: And let's have a real conversation.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Right, this is a high affluent town, Billy Hills is right.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm pretty sure a lot of them are Republicans.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: And that's okay. It's so unfortunate because it's like, we
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: don't watch.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: These shows to to care about that. Now.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I watch the view to get my political information. I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: only want to know that I don't I don't care
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: about what he does at home. I don't want to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: see Sonny Houston and her kids fight.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I want to understand the political views of these women.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: We don't watch host wise who care about that.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: So for that to be a quote, it's sort of like, again,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: is this pandering to the audience.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: But what the thing that.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: I will say is a large part of the audience
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: have said we don't care, right.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: And it's so funny since that came out, how many
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: people have come out in support of that, saying good
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: for you for standing on your beliefs and not being
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: railroaded into just thinking or saying what everybody wants you
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: to say, right, Like, thank you for being a woman
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: with your own mind who actually speaks their opinions and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't just pander and say what people want you to say.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Because I really think that that's the problem, people just
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: bullying other people into doing what they think the masses
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: want to hear. And again that goes back to the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: authenticity part. Just be yourself, be authentic.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Right, How did you find out you weren't coming back
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: to the Real Housewives of Billian They.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: Called me, The producer called you, uh yeah, huh.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: And just said we're going and we're yeah, like we're sorry, yeah,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: and you were shocked.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: I was quite shocked. Yes, yeah, Like I said, I
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: really thought that because I wasn't introduced. I wasn't shown
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: apart from talking about sons esophagus that I thought that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: I would have, you know, another season to do what
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: I thought I was brought there to do, which was
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: to show Black Wealth a solid black, loving, happy, hilarious
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: family unit. Right Like I really thought that that's why
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I was brought to the show. And so I was like, Okay, well,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: you know they didn't show it here. So that's what
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: next year is going to be about for me. It's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: going to be about me, me being seen and shown.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: And you know how I was so open and honest
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: and vulnerable with the stuff with my mom and like
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: all my adoption trauma and you know, wanting to find
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: my biological father. Like that's that's really the stuff that
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: I was wanting to show next year, and so that's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: why I was so I was like devastated. I was
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: really really hurt when I found out I wasn't going
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: to be coming back, because then I was like, well
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: then why was I here? Right? Like, I don't care
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: about science ofesophagus, So why am I here? You know,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: I like I have this. I'm such a happy person,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: you know I am. I really stand for authenticity and
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: truth and positivity and supporting people and motivating people and
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: inspiring people. And that is what I will always make
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: sure is put out when it has to do with
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: me going forward, because I feel like my life story
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: is too important, you know, and I won't I won't
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: do anything that doesn't that doesn't serve me in that way.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: So I, like I said, I was really excited to
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: show to show people that representation of Beverly Hills a reputation,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: a representation of a strong, wealthy black family unit that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: they've never seen before.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Because everything happens for a reason.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Everything happens for a reason, absolutely, And you know, in
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: light of that another you know, you can call it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: an attack, you can call it bullying. That that stuff
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: in the daily mail, with the quotations from Garcela and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Crystal all over the place. You know, I really feel
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: like it was my mom. I feel like it was
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: my mom. I think she was protecting me because I think,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: you know, once you're kind of in the machine, you're like, no,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: I need to make it better. I need to. I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: need to fix it. I need to fix it. I
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: need to make it better. I need to. I need
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: people to see me, you know, and so I don't.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have saved myself. If they had invited me back,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: I would have gone back. And I think it was
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  Speaker 3: my mom intervening and saying like, honey, you're not good
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  Speaker 3: for this, like this is this, You're not good for this, honey.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: But I have a lot of plans. This this is
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  Speaker 3: You'll see, You'll see. I have a lot of plans.
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  Speaker 3: There are a lot of things going on, and I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I just I want to do all
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  Speaker 3: the things that align with who I am. Positivity, truth, authenticity, inspiration, motivation.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've been through so much in my life
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  Speaker 3: and to be where I am now and have this
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  Speaker 3: amazing life that I'm so proud of and so lucky
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  Speaker 3: and so blessed to have. I just want other people
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  Speaker 3: to know that they can do it too. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they can do it too. You just need to have
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  Speaker 3: the right people around you, good support of loving people
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  Speaker 3: around you, and make good decisions, work hard, and you
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  Speaker 3: can make anything you want happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe that. And the thing is this,
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  Speaker 2: there's more for you to do. You are such a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful moment, beautiful spirit. You're very smart, You're accomplished, and
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  Speaker 2: one thing I would like for you to do because
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: when a reality star is not asked to come back,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: they feel like they have to rush and do something right.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: And I love the fact that you are figuring things out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you got some irons in the fire, which
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  Speaker 2: is great. But I would love for you to, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, your mom is guiding you. Because our mother
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  Speaker 2: is in heaven. They are our guardian angel. And if
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  Speaker 2: you sit still and you you what I want you
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  Speaker 2: to do is to be still and to allow your
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  Speaker 2: mom to guide you, because that's why she's in heaven.
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  Speaker 2: She's in heaven to guide you and your sisters. Absolutely, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you have to sit still and listen to the voices
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  Speaker 2: because I do that all the time with my mom.
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  Speaker 2: I talk to her every single day and she guides me.
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  Speaker 2: She told me, like, girl, don't be doing that.
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  Speaker 1: She calls me girl, Hey, Mom, You're not like girl,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: So I would love for you to listen to the
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  Speaker 2: the voices and to be still. And it's unfortunate because
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  Speaker 2: I really want you to come back.
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  Speaker 1: And I was.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Talking to Gerdy from Miami Housewives recently and There's a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: friend of named key Key Bart who is so funny,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: and I was saying to her, like, people always say,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: like there has to be one black girl on the show,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: and she is like, I hate that, Like, no one
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: says there has to be one white woman on the show.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: It's always the minorities. And you are such a great
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: juxtaposition of Garcell and the best way possible in the
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: sense of we get to see another side of the
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: black experience in Beverly Hills, and I feel sad for
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: us as a community that we won't be able to
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: see that. So obviously, when you're not coming back.
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  Speaker 1: You are a large part of the.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Storyline this season, So I want to congratulate you on
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: the ratings increasing and being the most watched season since
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: my season of The Real Housewise at Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Without you being there, what do you think these girls'
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  Speaker 2: storylines are going to be.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, Crystal's never had one, so without me,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: she's definitely not gonna have one at all. I hope that,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: you know, I hope for Kyle that she I really
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: hope she finds peace, you know, whether her and Mauricio
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: make it or whatever. She chooses to do going forward
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: that makes her happy. I just hope she finds peace
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: me too, I hope to read in p k R Okay,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: I know they you know, they've been going through a
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: rough patch. So I hope that they are able to
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: keep their relationship together and strong. And I truly hope
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: that she's not too, you know, emotionally scarred or damaged
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: from being labeled a racist, because she's not. She's a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: really sweet lady. I hope that Erica she had a
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: great season. She she I feel like she was shining.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Her performance was amazing. She's revitalized her career. So I
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: just hope she keeps going along that path. And just
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: hope she just keeps shining. Sudden, you know, I hope
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: her and her horse are good her, you know, find
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: a man, keep going with your hobby shop, whatever you
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: want to do, not the dating app and garcel. You know,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: I hope she. I hope she stops leaning into, you know,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: being a bully, because I don't think being a bully
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: is a good look for her. So I hope that
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: she kind of backs away from that a bit. And
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: you know, I hope that she finds love because she
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: just keeps talking about her husband from like thirteen years
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: ago or whatever, so you know, I I think that
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  Speaker 3: would be nice for her.
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