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Work-from-Home Woes and the Healthcare Crisis: Violence, Injustice, and Luigi · All About The Joy

• 0:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Hey everybody, welcome to All About the Joy.
• 0:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Hi, what's up, hi Rick, hi Cynthia, how you guys doing Good, and look it, we can see and we can hear Cynthia.
• 0:15
  Carmen Lezeth: So well, why don't you tell us why girl Go ahead?
• 0:19
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I got a tablet.
• 0:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm finally upgrading guys, you're still doing a 1957 cell phone, but you got the tablet.
• 0:26
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm finally upgrading.
• 0:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Guys, you're still doing a 1957 cell phone, but you got the tablet.
• 0:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Go ahead, girl, with your headphones.
• 0:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Go ahead, I'm sorry.
• 0:31
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: The intro on these headphones.
• 0:32
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh my god, it sounds so much better.
• 0:35
  Rick Costa: Oh, wow, yeah.
• 0:37
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You can hear the bass and everything.
• 0:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh my god.
• 0:40
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, these headphones actually were a gift from a doctor I used to work with and they're both headphones.
• 0:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They're like the noise canceling.
• 0:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, my God.
• 0:50
  Carmen Lezeth: You're so funny I'm just laughing.
• 0:53
  Carmen Lezeth: She's just recognizing the technology Working with 24.
• 0:58
  Carmen Lezeth: So awesome, Rick.
• 1:03
  Carmen Lezeth: How are you doing?
• 1:04
  Carmen Lezeth: What's going on with you?
• 1:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Before we get to Cynthia, because we got more background on her, but how are you doing?
• 1:08
  Carmen Lezeth: How was your week so far?
• 1:11
  Rick Costa: A little scary work situation, but you know.
• 1:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, do I already know about this or is this something new?
• 1:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah?
• 1:17
  Carmen Lezeth: It hasn't been resolved, not even discussed, not even brought up, and I'm like, should I say it so, one of these things that happens all the time is when a boss kind of insinuates something and starts making changes and you're not sure why, and it feels uncomfortable, yeah yeah, so I, because he hasn't said anything and neither have I.
• 1:37
  Rick Costa: I don't know if I'm gonna have a job after tomorrow.
• 1:39
  Rick Costa: I don't know because I don't want to do it Well do what I know.
• 1:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I don't want to share your business, but do you want to give people some insight or do you want me to finagle what it might be and not tell?
• 1:56
  Rick Costa: what it actually is.
• 1:56
  Rick Costa: I ain't got no shame.
• 1:57
  Rick Costa: He wants to put a camera to watch me while I work at home.
• 2:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, okay, let's tell people you actually work remotely and this is kind of a common thing with remote workers and I was telling Rick that I'm kind of.
• 2:10
  Carmen Lezeth: This is why I'm against remote work, and it's not because I don't think people should be able to work from home.
• 2:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Number one I don't think most people can work from home.
• 2:18
  Carmen Lezeth: It takes a lot of discipline to do it.
• 2:20
  Carmen Lezeth: And, number two, it makes people who own companies really uneasy because they don't have any trust, and what you're feeling is a lack of trust right now from your employer that you've worked for for a long time and he wants to sell a camera 20 years?
• 2:37
  Carmen Lezeth: That's crazy.
• 2:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, why is tomorrow the deadline?
• 2:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't know there was a deadline.
• 2:42
  Rick Costa: He said I want you to get this set up by the 15th.
• 2:47
  Rick Costa: And I thought wait, 15th is a Sunday, why the 15th?
• 2:50
  Rick Costa: And then I remembered oh, he likes to fire people at the end of the pay period.
• 2:57
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Okay, ricky, can't fire you.
• 2:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Why all of a sudden now?
• 3:01
  Rick Costa: Well, honestly, I have been getting a little bit behind in work, but it's been overwhelming and he never helps.
• 3:06
  Rick Costa: I'm like this is a lot on me.
• 3:09
  Rick Costa: And then he's like and keep throwing more and more and more and I'm like I'm only one person like this is like for three people at least do you have that documented as well, though, like you have?
• 3:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, let's say it came down to he did fire you.
• 3:25
  Carmen Lezeth: You actually would have a reason to fight, like to have litigation for cause, if you can prove some of this stuff, cause it sounds like to me he doesn't trust you all of a sudden, but he's also abusing you you know what I mean.
• 3:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Like he's abusing the fact that you're one person working from home and somehow you're supposed to take care of everything because you're not doing anything.
• 3:45
  Carmen Lezeth: And now I don't trust you.
• 3:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me put a camera and prove that you're not doing your work.
• 3:50
  Rick Costa: What's also fascinating is I always answer the phone, practically the first ring.
• 3:55
  Rick Costa: When they send me a message on a messenger, I immediately answer.
• 3:59
  Rick Costa: So how am I not here at my desk?
• 4:01
  Rick Costa: I even heard him say one time, snidey like oh, you're hanging out with your mom.
• 4:05
  Rick Costa: No, not during work hours.
• 4:10
  Carmen Lezeth: None of that is even important.
• 4:11
  Carmen Lezeth: That whole hanging out with your mom thing that's what I'm saying For him.
• 4:14
  Carmen Lezeth: It's really what he's doing is bad and he's handling it wrong.
• 4:17
  Carmen Lezeth: If I was advising him he'd be in trouble.
• 4:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Melanie just said could the employer be projecting how he would act, and not necessarily anything with Rick is doing?
• 4:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Melanie, that's what I said to Rick.
• 4:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I said this isn't even about you, this is about him, this is about the employer.
• 4:31
  Carmen Lezeth: He's having some issues, so why don't you want to just tell him you know what Great I have a camera.
• 4:38
  Carmen Lezeth: You have to reimburse me $425 for it, but I did get it.
• 4:42
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 4:42
  Carmen Lezeth: And it's fine, I have it and I'll have it turned on.
• 4:46
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I know you don't want.
• 4:49
  Rick Costa: So I'll tell you what I did do so because of my mom, for people that don't know.
• 4:54
  Rick Costa: She has dementia and I live with her because she has dementia and you never know what she's going to do.
• 4:59
  Rick Costa: So that's why I had to on cameras in every room, because I'm like I even today, like I caught her, like don't do that, whatever.
• 5:06
  Rick Costa: So I took one camera out of a room that she really rarely goes to anymore.
• 5:10
  Rick Costa: Thank god, because right next to my bedroom I put it in my room.
• 5:13
  Rick Costa: I set it up just to see how it would feel for me and all I put it so you could see the screen, my work, my work screen, and you can see my hand on the mouse.
• 5:23
  Rick Costa: That's it I'm.
• 5:24
  Rick Costa: That should be enough for you to know.
• 5:25
  Rick Costa: Yes, I'm here, you can see the screen.
• 5:27
  Rick Costa: You can see I'm here working, just to see how I would feel.
• 5:31
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And.
• 5:31
  Rick Costa: I still felt icky.
• 5:32
  Rick Costa: I'm like somebody's going to be watching me constantly.
• 5:35
  Rick Costa: It's weird.
• 5:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, I mean, the reason why it feels icky again is because you feel like somebody doesn't trust you.
• 5:41
  Rick Costa: And it kind of hurts, to be honest.
• 5:43
  Rick Costa: 20 years Over 20 years, kind of hurts, honestly Not kind of hurts.
• 5:50
  Carmen Lezeth: It does hurt and I think that's valid.
• 5:52
  Carmen Lezeth: It hurts me and I don't even know the motherfucker.
• 5:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Excuse my and that's your house, that's your personal space, that's your privacy.
• 5:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: If he really wanted to know what you were doing, why doesn't he just log into the computer remotely and see what you're doing on your computer?
• 6:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, that's even worse.
• 6:05
  Carmen Lezeth: You don't want him to do that, because-.
• 6:07
  Rick Costa: Well, there's no camera like that on the computer he gave me.
• 6:10
  Rick Costa: He gave me a computer with no mic, no webcam, nothing.
• 6:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, he would have to give you a you don't want that either, by the way.
• 6:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Either way, it's somebody watching, you Like?
• 6:20
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: it doesn't matter how you do it.
• 6:21
  Carmen Lezeth: So the way we have it set up with one of our clients because we have people all over the world that come, so we use like Slack and mondaycom and people kind of log in there and it's more of a, you know, it's kind of like a check-in system, but it is kind of like the water cooler place and that's where we all do projects and stuff and that's, you know, that makes people feel too.
• 6:46
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like listen, you can't have it all If you're working remotely.
• 6:48
  Carmen Lezeth: There are some things you have to give up.
• 6:49
  Carmen Lezeth: There's just some of them.
• 6:50
  Carmen Lezeth: The problem, rick, I think that I see is it's been 20 years.
• 6:52
  Carmen Lezeth: You didn't just get hired as a remote worker three months ago.
• 6:56
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean and this was part of your deal and I think you have every right to be angry and upset and hurt, for sure.
• 7:04
  Rick Costa: And I think the biggest problem is communication, like, and I said to, I emailed him, I said can we talk?
• 7:09
  Rick Costa: This was Friday.
• 7:10
  Rick Costa: I said can we talk over the weekend offline?
• 7:12
  Rick Costa: I'd like to talk to you, not a five minute conversation either.
• 7:15
  Rick Costa: I want to really talk, okay.
• 7:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, if he fires you, he also has to give you unemployment, and I mean worst case scenario, you know, and uh, we'll figure out the next steps from there.
• 7:29
  Rick Costa: I mean we have to right.
• 7:29
  Rick Costa: I mean I'm gonna need everybody to like, share and subscribe so me and carmen and content they can blow up and gotta work no more and rick would be the editor I'll probably be good at it.
• 7:44
  Rick Costa: I will too.
• 7:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, wouldn't that be the crazy thing, like all of a sudden, the show blows up.
• 7:52
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I would hire you as a second if I could.
• 7:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I would.
• 7:55
  Carmen Lezeth: We would all do this on a more regular basis and I look it.
• 8:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, you know well, you'll figure it out.
• 8:06
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not the end of the world, and you know what I feel like.
• 8:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Somebody doesn't deserve you.
• 8:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I was thinking about this today with one of my clients.
• 8:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I was working for another client and another client that I don't work for had to call me a couple times.
• 8:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, and I hate cross-clienting.
• 8:23
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, what I mean, but in my head I was like you guys, you do not deserve me.
• 8:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I kept thinking about it.
• 8:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm answering 15 different things in my head because everybody needs something and I'm too valuable.
• 8:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I should be spending time doing stuff I love to do.
• 8:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Imagine where we would be if we put all our energy into what we want to be doing.
• 8:45
  Rick Costa: My friend called me today.
• 8:46
  Rick Costa: We used to be really, really tight, but now he's kind of far away so that makes it hard, but anyway.
• 8:50
  Rick Costa: So I told him everything.
• 8:51
  Rick Costa: The first thing he said was tell your boss blank.
• 8:55
  Rick Costa: I ain't going to say what he said, like, yeah, I'm not going to do that, but he goes.
• 8:59
  Rick Costa: I was working at a job like a restaurant job, a chain, and a job like a restaurant job, a chain and he goes.
• 9:03
  Rick Costa: I was disrespected, we were just not treated well.
• 9:06
  Rick Costa: Now he works for another restaurant, mom and pop small operation.
• 9:09
  Rick Costa: He goes.
• 9:10
  Rick Costa: I work more hours and I actually get more tired, but I'm way happier.
• 9:13
  Rick Costa: I'm respected.
• 9:14
  Rick Costa: I'm actually making more money anyway, so he's much happier.
• 9:17
  Rick Costa: He's like why would you work at a place where they don't even respect you?
• 9:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, rick, I'm respect you.
• 9:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, rick, I'm sorry, though this still sucks.
• 9:30
  Carmen Lezeth: It don't matter, it sucks, I'm sorry, you're still going through that.
• 9:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Um damn.
• 9:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, cynthia, I hope you have good news with, uh, your brother-in-law.
• 9:35
  Carmen Lezeth: How's he feeling?
• 9:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, yeah, but all and he's good he's home.
• 9:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: He came home yesterday, day before yesterday.
• 9:43
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: He's doing better.
• 9:44
  Carmen Lezeth: He can't have any solid food, so just liquids for like the next week or two I know, but what happened like it wasn't you guys, it wasn't like a planned thing, right?
• 9:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: no, it wasn't.
• 9:55
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: He was actually at work.
• 9:56
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And then he said all of a sudden he got a really bad pain right around his stomach and he was bent over.
• 10:02
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: He couldn't take a deep breath and his boss called 911 and ambulance came.
• 10:07
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They took him to the hospital and did ct and everything and found that that he had a bleeding ulcer and it was in his intestines.
• 10:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: He had to do emergency surgery, remove the part that was bleeding, you know, and so up the rest of it.
• 10:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So now he's just on liquids for the next week or two.
• 10:31
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So yeah, I mean he's okay, he's home, but it kind of sucks because it's like his mom is also recovering from knee surgery and now he's home and recovering from this.
• 10:42
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So it's like you know.
• 10:43
  Rick Costa: Yeah, that's rough recovering from this.
• 10:45
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So it's like yeah, that's rough.
• 10:46
  Rick Costa: That's rough.
• 10:46
  Rick Costa: I thought you were going to say uh, ruptured appendix.
• 10:49
  Rick Costa: Appendix.
• 10:50
  Rick Costa: However, you say it.
• 10:50
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, no, no, yeah.
• 10:51
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And this is like the first time he's ever been in the hospital, so it's like oh, so it's traumatic.
• 10:56
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Something so right.
• 11:05
  Carmen Lezeth: So traumatic, poor guy.
• 11:05
  Carmen Lezeth: He's doing good.
• 11:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Good, you guys are doing okay, you're hanging in there.
• 11:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, we're good.
• 11:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Everything's cool with you at work.
• 11:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God.
• 11:14
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Today was a good day because somebody wasn't there.
• 11:17
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, there were a few people that weren't there.
• 11:19
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: The doctor isn't there until Wednesday.
• 11:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Someone else wasn't there today.
• 11:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It was me and the resident.
• 11:25
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It was nice and quiet.
• 11:27
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I got to listen to my Christmas music, did my work.
• 11:31
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It was awesome.
• 11:37
  Carmen Lezeth: You went to Christmas Wait why I, stupidly, was like I got into this moment where I'm like, oh, you know what I'm going to do.
• 11:42
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to buy people some Christmas gifts.
• 11:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to buy them like all about the joy t-shirts, everything.
• 11:44
  Carmen Lezeth: And so I ordered all.
• 11:44
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm like I got into this moment where I'm like, oh, you know what I'm going to do, I'm going to buy people some Christmas gifts.
• 11:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to buy them, all about the Joy t-shirts and everything.
• 11:47
  Carmen Lezeth: I ordered all and I'm like that's cheesy, but I had already ordered them.
• 11:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like that's so cheesy Buying people my cups instead of getting them.
• 11:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to have quite a few for myself.
• 12:01
  Carmen Lezeth: They're going to have quite a few for myself.
• 12:03
  Rick Costa: They're going to be here next week so I've had people from my store order mugs a lot for christmas.
• 12:10
  Rick Costa: That seems to be a popular thing.
• 12:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I didn't do a lot of promotions, so it's okay, but I was just cracking up.
• 12:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Uh, I'm gonna do better next year.
• 12:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I guess I don't know.
• 12:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm listen again.
• 12:20
  Carmen Lezeth: What's going in my head is this idea of how much time and energy and like emotional, just intellectual, all of the energy I'm using to help other people be rich and there's no joy in it for me.
• 12:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I get my paycheck and I can pay my bills, but there's no, I'm not excited by it, right, but I'm.
• 12:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Even when I complain about editing here at least, I'm like, oh, that was funny.
• 12:44
  Carmen Lezeth: When I'm not excited by it, right, but even when I complain about editing here at least I'm like, oh, that was funny.
• 12:47
  Carmen Lezeth: When I'm editing, I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is a clip, there's some joy.
• 12:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Don't get me wrong, I hate editing.
• 12:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I would rather that the person, send me the clips and me listen to them and see if I like them.
• 12:58
  Carmen Lezeth: But there's something in it for me that I'm invested in, because this is something I've created and I'm doing it with people I like and we're, I think, providing a service.
• 13:10
  Carmen Lezeth: And there's so much more we could do and I could do if I just had more time, and that more time is going to come from me not working for my clients, and that's what I've come to.
• 13:20
  Carmen Lezeth: So, cynthia, I'm here on air.
• 13:23
  Carmen Lezeth: I need you to tap into that trust fund and just send me a million.
• 13:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know why you're being so stingy.
• 13:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Cousin, I wish I had it Right.
• 13:36
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm just I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing for 2025.
• 13:40
  Carmen Lezeth: But before we go into that, I thought we would talk about luigi, just have a little conversation about luigi, I don't know, oh, luigi let me just say a couple.
• 13:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I love the man's name, right, if you were writing a script for a movie and you named it luigi, they'd be like, yeah, that's too on point.
• 14:01
  Carmen Lezeth: It has to be more creative.
• 14:03
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 14:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, no, too good looking, you got to.
• 14:07
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, no, he can't.
• 14:08
  Carmen Lezeth: That just doesn't.
• 14:09
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not going to work.
• 14:09
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not going to work in the movie, you know.
• 14:11
  Carmen Lezeth: But in all seriousness, how do you guys feel?
• 14:29
  Carmen Lezeth: For anyone who's been living under a rock, I'll just say the Luigi Maggioni has been accused of second degree murder, which I thought was interesting.
• 14:33
  Carmen Lezeth: It wasn't first degree, second degree murder of CEO of United Healthcare, brian Thompson, killing him on the streets of New York, I guess at some normal hour of the day, with a plastic gun.
• 14:44
  Carmen Lezeth: He made a 3d printer, plastic gun or something and he's been accused of murder and it has really thrown the internet and people for a loop because people are considering, uh, luigi, a kind of folk hero, or I don't know what the right word is.
• 15:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm trying to use my words wisely.
• 15:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I think there's nuances to all of it, but people are not mad at him, not angry, and there are some people who are a little bit crazy and have t-shirts and are saying that they love him and that-.
• 15:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, they've sent money to a GoFundMe?
• 15:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, but GoFundMe wouldn't let them do that.
• 15:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Gofundme wouldn't let them do it.
• 15:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Gofundme took it down.
• 15:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Youtube took down all these things.
• 15:30
  Carmen Lezeth: People were trying to do all that, but they took them down.
• 15:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Anyways, Rick, why don't we start with you?
• 15:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I was curious to see what you thought about this whole thing.
• 15:42
  Rick Costa: I mean, what was he thinking?
• 15:44
  Rick Costa: I killed the CEO?
• 15:45
  Rick Costa: Healthcare is fixed, now what you killed a man with two kids, what's wrong with you?
• 15:51
  Rick Costa: Like a family man, like it's just ridiculous.
• 15:56
  Rick Costa: The whole thing is absolutely insane.
• 16:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia, I'm just.
• 16:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I'm just, waiting, I'm going to create controversy.
• 16:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So, being someone who does work in health care insurances, they do suck.
• 16:11
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: All of them suck, because they do pick and choose who they cover.
• 16:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: There's things that are emergency, that they don't cover, and it does suck, I get it, but one person can't take it into their own hands and kill one person.
• 16:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know, and think, like you said, like, oh, it's all better now.
• 16:30
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, it's not.
• 16:37
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's like do something about it.
• 16:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Where it goes to court with insurance companies, do something legal, like that.
• 16:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Don't go out there and shoot somebody because now what I mean it's not like you know, oh, tomorrow everything is covered and you're getting free care all over the world.
• 16:47
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Like no, it doesn't work that way.
• 16:48
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So I mean it's stupid what he did.
• 16:52
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I get why he did it, but it's stupid what he did.
• 16:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, I'm going to have to throw in the other side here, right, I'm going to have to defend the people now, okay.
• 17:04
  Carmen Lezeth: So I think it's a little bit more in depth than that and here's what I'll pose as a thought process that people should think about A couple of things.
• 17:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Luigi did not even have United Health insurance.
• 17:20
  Carmen Lezeth: That wasn't his insurance company at all.
• 17:22
  Carmen Lezeth: But if Luigi did it, let's just assume that he did for this argument, because he's presumed innocent until found guilty.
• 17:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, we still have that in this country.
• 17:31
  Carmen Lezeth: But let's just say it was him.
• 17:32
  Carmen Lezeth: That wasn't even his health insurance company, which I found interesting.
• 17:37
  Carmen Lezeth: That's number one.
• 17:37
  Carmen Lezeth: He was dealing with a chronic back pain and he doesn't come from a poor family.
• 17:43
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not like he didn't have insurance and he didn't have access, but even he was dealing with the pain and suffering of not being treated well because insurance companies kept denying him for the care that he needed.
• 17:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Now I'm going to pose this again thought process here.
• 18:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Let's be nuanced and let's really think about things a little bit thoroughly here.
• 18:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I am against the whole gun culture in this country to begin with.
• 18:12
  Carmen Lezeth: So my first issue with this is when you get upset in this country, when you get really really angry, when you get really really pissed off.
• 18:21
  Carmen Lezeth: People still have easy access to guns and that's how they deal with their frustration.
• 18:27
  Carmen Lezeth: We don't use our words, we don't have the ability to talk things out with people and then everybody wants to throw it with oh, mental health, stop doing that.
• 18:36
  Carmen Lezeth: He's not claiming that, but I'm just saying stop with the mental health shit.
• 18:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Not everyone has a mental health issue and that's not an excuse for your behavior.
• 18:44
  Carmen Lezeth: And the gun culture in this country is ridiculous.
• 18:49
  Carmen Lezeth: That is the other problem here that people don't want to talk about.
• 18:52
  Carmen Lezeth: It is so easy to make a gun.
• 18:56
  Carmen Lezeth: It's a 3D printer gun.
• 18:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You make a gun.
• 18:57
  Carmen Lezeth: But, more importantly, that's the way we solve issues in this country.
• 18:59
  Carmen Lezeth: More importantly, that's the way we solve issues in this country.
• 19:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what?
• 19:05
  Carmen Lezeth: In Sweden, that's not how they solve issues.
• 19:08
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean?
• 19:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not saying they don't have any gun issues in other countries, but in the United States, because we have such easy access to guns, that's how we immediately think we can solve a problem.
• 19:21
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's my first nuanced thing to think about.
• 19:24
  Carmen Lezeth: The second thing I'm going to say and this is going to rub people the wrong way.
• 19:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Clearly, I've been thinking about this for a while because I'm so just intrigued by it and pissed off by it because, cynthia, you know, I've been dealing with the insurance companies for the past year and it's been pissing me off.
• 19:37
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm a single woman who makes really good money and have really good insurance and I'm shook.
• 19:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm shook by what people have to go through and people who don't have the time, people who have children, people who work two or three jobs and make ends meet.
• 19:52
  Carmen Lezeth: So here's the thing I'm going to say to you UnitedHealthcare, specifically, specifically, has a higher denial claim in double digits in comparison to all the other insurance companies, and how they deny claims and they deny them and then they make a percentage of money off of how much they deny.
• 20:14
  Carmen Lezeth: So, rick, what you're talking about, you're right.
• 20:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Nobody, nobody, should be using a gun to kill anybody for any reason.
• 20:23
  Carmen Lezeth: That is not how you solve a motherfucking problem.
• 20:25
  Carmen Lezeth: But what is the difference between killing people with a gun and killing people with paper?
• 20:31
  Carmen Lezeth: What happens when you are somebody who is being denied care because you have cancer and you, whatever have some strange deductible that you haven't met yet, so you can't get your cancer pills because you can't afford them because you pay $500 a month and your deductible is $8,000 and your surgery just cost you $82,000.
• 20:55
  Carmen Lezeth: You don't even like.
• 20:56
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just this weird, horrible mess that we are in and it is so nuanced.
• 21:04
  Carmen Lezeth: So just think about that for a moment.
• 21:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Now I am not okay with killing Brian Thompson or any other CEO, but and this is the last thing, and then you guys can chime in on everything I just said, the same day that this happened, this horrible killing happened actually it was in your state, rick Costa.
• 21:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Anthem Blue Cross had just announced and you guys can Google this had just announced that they were now putting limits on anesthesia during surgery.
• 21:35
  Carmen Lezeth: So you're in motherfucking surgery and Blue Cross was saying Anthem Blue Cross was saying you know what?
• 21:43
  Carmen Lezeth: We're only going to cover a certain time period while you're in surgery, and after that certain amount of time, I don't know, you're supposed to wake up and be like yo, doc, are you done?
• 21:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Yet I have no idea what you're supposed to do.
• 21:55
  Carmen Lezeth: But then they're not going to cover it.
• 21:58
  Carmen Lezeth: So you get out of surgery and now you're going to have a whole other bill that you weren't planning, because anesthesia should be covered for the duration of the motherfucking surgery you're in.
• 22:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, blue Cross Anthem on the same day that that killing happened.
• 22:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Had just announced that, and you know what happened.
• 22:18
  Carmen Lezeth: The day after that CEO died Ooh.
• 22:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you want to guess?
• 22:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Anybody want to guess?
• 22:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Blue Cross was like ooh.
• 22:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, oh, to guess like oh, we tracked it.
• 22:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That huh, you know what?
• 22:28
  Carmen Lezeth: we was just playing we didn't mean it, we we're not going to the next motherfucking day.
• 22:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I am not advocating for anyone to kill anyone.
• 22:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I am absolutely against it and I am so sorry for Mr Brian Thompson's family, but I am not sorry for how people have reacted to this, because people are fucking fed up.
• 22:52
  Carmen Lezeth: People are sick and tired of this shit and when you're wealthy, or at least from middle class, and you're still getting dicked over, I mean I'm not saying we should be getting dicked over like people who don't have anything, but you know that there is something really wrong in our country when this is what's happening.
• 23:11
  Carmen Lezeth: And, by the way, mr Brian Thompson and all of these CEOs are not making $80,000 a year, so the benefits that he's getting from his salary, which is in the millions of dollars, comes from the denial of insurance to people who are just trying to make ends meet.
• 23:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that's my time.
• 23:36
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yep, you're 100's my time.
• 23:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yep, you're a hundred percent Right.
• 23:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yep, and like I said, look, I work in healthcare.
• 23:44
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Even my insurance is not great.
• 23:47
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I even have a high deductible.
• 23:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I have asthma and I need medications, and it's expensive.
• 23:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Each month, I tell you right now, I spent almost like $250 on my asthma medicine and that's only like three inhalers.
• 24:02
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's ridiculous.
• 24:04
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And I work for health care, so it's like a regular person or a health care worker doesn't matter.
• 24:14
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: We're all getting treated like shit when it comes to insurance.
• 24:21
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I always thought it was weird that.
• 24:24
  Rick Costa: So let's use your anesthesia example.
• 24:27
  Rick Costa: Okay, you need to have surgery.
• 24:30
  Rick Costa: Okay, what type of surgery?
• 24:31
  Rick Costa: Okay, well, we figure we'll cover an hour.
• 24:35
  Rick Costa: That should be good, oh, really.
• 24:37
  Rick Costa: So you went into your crystal ball and saw that there were going to be no complications, nothing weird coming up unexpectedly.
• 24:43
  Rick Costa: You knew that was going to happen.
• 24:44
  Rick Costa: You're not a doctor.
• 24:46
  Rick Costa: What are you talking about?
• 24:47
  Rick Costa: You have no idea.
• 24:48
  Rick Costa: You are not a doctor.
• 24:49
  Rick Costa: You're trying to tell me what they know I need and you don't.
• 24:54
  Rick Costa: It's so backwards, it's so weird.
• 24:58
  Carmen Lezeth: It what they know I need and you don't like.
• 24:59
  Carmen Lezeth: It's so backwards, it's so weird it is.
• 24:59
  Carmen Lezeth: The insurance lobby is hardcore in this country too.
• 25:01
  Rick Costa: There's a lot I realized there was an issue.
• 25:02
  Rick Costa: Was people saying like I was pregnant and they got me out of the hospital like the next day?
• 25:07
  Rick Costa: They're like you gotta go.
• 25:08
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm like oh yeah, what?
• 25:10
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 25:13
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Natural birth yeah, you're out the next day.
• 25:15
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: If you had C-section, you're in there for maybe a day or two.
• 25:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I had hip surgery.
• 25:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I was in and out of there in four hours.
• 25:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not kidding, I couldn't walk, but they were like you need to go.
• 25:32
  Carmen Lezeth: They forced you to walk.
• 25:33
  Carmen Lezeth: They forced you to walk right after the surgery Again.
• 25:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not complaining, but that's you know.
• 25:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Part of it is you know medical advances and technology, and the other is they don't want you to take up more space because we ain't paying for it.
• 25:46
  Carmen Lezeth: It's crazy.
• 25:50
  Carmen Lezeth: It's crazy all of it.
• 25:52
  Carmen Lezeth: So I think it's a lot more nuanced and I understand why people are acting the way they are and people keep saying it's not going to change.
• 26:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, it is.
• 26:02
  Carmen Lezeth: It changed Anthem, blue Cross to change anesthesia right away, because they know it's immoral.
• 26:10
  Carmen Lezeth: They know it is.
• 26:11
  Carmen Lezeth: By the way, we don't have the best healthcare in the world.
• 26:16
  Carmen Lezeth: We rate really, really low in comparison to other first world countries.
• 26:22
  Carmen Lezeth: We don't have the best.
• 26:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Like we keep thinking we're the best country.
• 26:26
  Carmen Lezeth: No, we're not.
• 26:27
  Carmen Lezeth: We're failing over and over and over again.
• 26:29
  Carmen Lezeth: And healthcare is the big one, and education, but we can talk about that some other time.
• 26:34
  Carmen Lezeth: But healthcare is huge.
• 26:38
  Rick Costa: I know several people that they're like they needed to have something done and like, oh, we're going to do it in a local hospital, no, we're going out of the country.
• 26:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Mm-hmm.
• 26:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I'm thinking about you know, because I might be taking a trip to.
• 26:55
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Spain lately.
• 26:56
  Rick Costa: Going on vacation, I'm going on vacation.
• 26:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, Carmen, you're really going right, Carmen, I'm like I'm sorry what, I don't think I would ever have elective surgery, because I just surgery is just not my jam.
• 27:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I did that once.
• 27:15
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Anything can happen.
• 27:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Anything can happen, anything can happen during surgery.
• 27:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I know I'm vain, but I'm not that vain.
• 27:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean I'll never say never, like if God forbid something happened and I had to, I'd be like, while you're there, could you?
• 27:32
  Rick Costa: You're already in that area.
• 27:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Can you imagine?
• 27:38
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm just saying I just don't think I would ever do it.
• 27:42
  Carmen Lezeth: But you know, I don't know I had called Cynthia at one point this year because everything that's happened with my hand and here's the thing this has been an ongoing issue.
• 27:51
  Carmen Lezeth: We're now into over a year, because it happened last Thanksgiving, right, not this past, but a year.
• 27:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Because it happened last thanksgiving, right, not this past.
• 27:57
  Carmen Lezeth: A year ago, thanksgiving and cynthia, I think remember when I called you because I got the bill it was like 914 dollars.
• 28:04
  Carmen Lezeth: All I did was have a fucking zoom call with my doctor and um, it was, and it was out of network or I don't even know what it was.
• 28:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I was so pissed and and I could pay it.
• 28:16
  Carmen Lezeth: See, I could pay it.
• 28:17
  Carmen Lezeth: See, I could pay it.
• 28:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Did I want to pay it?
• 28:19
  Carmen Lezeth: No, but I paid it.
• 28:21
  Carmen Lezeth: But it ate so much into my money.
• 28:26
  Carmen Lezeth: And again, I'm not even complaining for myself, I'm really not.
• 28:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I keep thinking to myself I am so grateful I don't have children, I'm so grateful that I have the job that I have.
• 28:34
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Like there are people who do not have that luxury and and I don't even have it that luxurious, so yeah, so I don't know.
• 28:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I think the Luigi thing is.
• 28:46
  Carmen Lezeth: You know I'm I'm being funny about his name, but I just think the whole casting of it in the movie.
• 28:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm always thinking about Hollywood because you know the movie's going to be made at some point, but it's a weird.
• 28:59
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just such a weird and interestingly fascinating thing that's happening and I ain't mad at it.
• 29:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I think people are angry and they're using this as the piggyback on.
• 29:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think anyone who is talking about Luigi the way that they are is saying it's okay, two things can actually be equal, it's true at the same time.
• 29:26
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if I want to say true, I guess true, yes, it's nuanced.
• 29:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, it's very nuanced.
• 29:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Both things could be valid.
• 29:35
  Carmen Lezeth: That's the word I'm looking for.
• 29:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I can be angry and upset and sad that somebody killed and gunned somebody, conversation, we weren't having these conversations and we weren't having these conversations and companies like Blue Cross, anthem were instituting bullshittery that people didn't know about.
• 30:06
  Carmen Lezeth: That's the other thing.
• 30:06
  Carmen Lezeth: The only reason why we know about it is because that happened.
• 30:09
  Carmen Lezeth: So that would have been like a little press release they sent out, right, right.
• 30:13
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And nobody would have been right there while the person's waiting to get operated on.
• 30:17
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, why don't you just sign this?
• 30:19
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And it's like telling them all about the blue cross anthem yeah, that they cover blah, blah, because that's what they do.
• 30:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Like before you go into surgery, they have you sign all this stuff.
• 30:28
  Carmen Lezeth: You ain't sitting there with a lawyer to read fucking 98 pages, true, yep, and you signing everything away.
• 30:36
  Carmen Lezeth: And when I had my hip surgery, it was like at 5 45 in the morning.
• 30:39
  Carmen Lezeth: We had to be there an hour before whatever.
• 30:42
  Carmen Lezeth: And andrea was with me because y'all know andrea stayed with me for those two weeks.
• 30:47
  Carmen Lezeth: And, um, we went in and they asked me for a deposit of like I forget how much.
• 30:53
  Carmen Lezeth: It was like 350.
• 30:54
  Carmen Lezeth: It was 300 and something dollars, let's say $350.
• 30:57
  Carmen Lezeth: And I was like, wait, what?
• 30:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't even have anything with me.
• 31:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I can't.
• 31:03
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, they tell you not to bring anything with you.
• 31:05
  Carmen Lezeth: They're like well, just, I'm like you.
• 31:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Why didn't you tell me that when I came in for the conversation, right To talk about what's going to happen to anesthesia, why't you tell me I had to have a 350?
• 31:17
  Carmen Lezeth: That had nothing to do with my insurance?
• 31:19
  Carmen Lezeth: It's because I was at the specialty place getting surgery done instead of a hospital, because that's where my doctor it's not like I had a choice.
• 31:26
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I don't want their facility bill, facility bill, whatever, and they wanted me to pay it right then and there and then I was like you told me me I was so mad at like 4.45 in the morning you know what I mean Like an hour before we had to go in.
• 31:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You know afterwards, because we all know I love my surgeon, right, we all know.
• 31:45
  Carmen Lezeth: But they sent me the check back for that deposit.
• 31:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I complained about it.
• 31:51
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 31:52
  Carmen Lezeth: But again, it takes a lot of time, it takes the ability to do that stuff and most people will not do that Most people and it's not for any other reason except that they don't know, they feel beaten down by the system, they're not empowered and, more importantly, they don't have time and energy when you just have surgery.
• 32:14
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Mm-hmm, and the most vulnerable are the senior citizens.
• 32:20
  Carmen Lezeth: For sure.
• 32:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Those are the ones that they take advantage of the most.
• 32:26
  Rick Costa: Most of them are on Social Security.
• 32:32
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's so sad.
• 32:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry, what Rick?
• 32:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know how they get by yeah, uh, because, um, here in the united states, when you turn 65, you also end up getting medicare.
• 32:45
  Carmen Lezeth: So you qualify for medicare and medicare takes care of, uh, quite a few things, okay, so, um, I only know about this because two of my clients are of that age, and so we end up and so we try to put them on Medicare because there are different parts.
• 33:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You've probably seen the commercials Medicare Part A, medicare Part B, and it's all so motherfucking confusing have, I think, six months to apply for it after you turn 65.
• 33:19
  Carmen Lezeth: And what it does is it covers certain things like, you know, ambulances or whatever.
• 33:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Anthony said.
• 33:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Don't bring anything except the money you'll have to give it.
• 33:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Exactly, preach, go ahead, anthony.
• 33:27
  Carmen Lezeth: So Medicare covers some stuff, but then other stuff it doesn't cover.
• 33:33
  Carmen Lezeth: So then you have to apply and decide to get a supplemental insurance.
• 33:36
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:36
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's how they get have to apply and decide to get a supplemental insurance, you know what I mean.
• 33:38
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's how they get by.
• 33:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Most people don't get the supplemental insurance because they can't afford it.
• 33:43
  Carmen Lezeth: You know one of my clients.
• 33:45
  Carmen Lezeth: He's like, why do I have to get it?
• 33:46
  Carmen Lezeth: He's like I pay for my family, blah, blah.
• 33:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like stop talking, we're busy.
• 33:51
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like because you qualify for it, because you've been working and you get to, you know you can use that and there are certain things it does cover, but no people on Social Security, people on retirement, people who don't you know, who have their pensions or whatever.
• 34:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Not everyone has that.
• 34:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Don't do okay, they end up probably homeless.
• 34:09
  Carmen Lezeth: One medical event they end up homeless.
• 34:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Have compassion for the homeless because it might be used someday.
• 34:19
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, yeah, it's a tough one.
• 34:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, I feel good that I got that off my chest because I was just cracking up about it all day and I was thinking about it all week when it happened it just happened like when, like this weekend do you see?
• 34:36
  Rick Costa: the conspiracy theories, though about the eyebrows, don't match oh god, no, I didn't see that.
• 34:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I keep seeing all the things where people say he's finer than he is.
• 34:47
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, bring it down a notch, he's not.
• 34:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I know I'm older and everything, but he's not all that.
• 34:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, I just look at, I think, people are also.
• 34:59
  Carmen Lezeth: People react different ways when they're uncomfortable, and people don't like to talk about healthcare because it's angry, it's very angry, and so it feels good, in a way, to talk about this in this way, like somebody's doing it for us, you know, and giving it to the man, and I think that's what we're seeing.
• 35:18
  Carmen Lezeth: And for all the people who are clutching their pearls, you know, like, how dare you?
• 35:23
  Carmen Lezeth: It's always the sorry Rick, it's always the religious, motherfucking people too.
• 35:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Stop it.
• 35:28
  Carmen Lezeth: It's more nuanced than that.
• 35:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Everyone isn't a bad person.
• 35:32
  Carmen Lezeth: If you just look at all the layers that are involved in what's going on, you know what I mean and understand that two things can actually be valid.
• 35:40
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, we can be angry about gun violence or someone thinking they should take, like rick.
• 35:47
  Carmen Lezeth: You were right what you said, you know, like killing one person isn't going to change everything, but then people are at wit's end.
• 35:55
  Carmen Lezeth: In a way.
• 35:55
  Carmen Lezeth: It did, though it did change something.
• 35:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, yeah, and it's so funny because CEOs went and I guess they pulled down all their profile pictures from their websites.
• 36:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like you can still Google them.
• 36:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you can still Google them, like you can still find them, and then they all have like more beefed up security.
• 36:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, okay, that's one way to go.
• 36:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Or you could, you could do what some places do and say you know what, we're going to re-look at how we handle things and kind of take this as a message to try to figure things out and do better when we know better yeah, I did hear one person say these people are loaded, they ain't got no security.
• 36:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think anybody was expecting to be walking.
• 36:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I think he was walking out of his car or something and he was coming out of the hotel.
• 36:47
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, he was coming to the hotel.
• 36:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if he I mean, can you imagine living your life like that too, thinking someone might kill me because I make so much money off the backs of poor fucking people who can't get medical care?
• 36:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying I'm sure he's a good family man and I'm not taking away that he was somebody's father and blah blah.
• 37:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not taking away from any of that, but I wouldn't work, for there are certain things I will not do.
• 37:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, I don't work for places that I think are corrupt.
• 37:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I just don't.
• 37:19
  Carmen Lezeth: And I think the health insurance industry is corrupt.
• 37:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Sorry, Cynthia, absolutely.
• 37:27
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, I agree 100%.
• 37:30
  Carmen Lezeth: You know it is.
• 37:31
  Carmen Lezeth: And there was somebody I forget who I looked up.
• 37:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I was looking up the CEO of Google.
• 37:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, Google, who owns YouTube, YouTube TV just increased their stupid fees again and it's like 137% from when they first started YouTube TV, which was like I don't know three years ago.
• 37:52
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean years ago, you know what I mean.
• 37:55
  Carmen Lezeth: So remember, when I was like promoting it, I was like this is so good, it's so much cheaper, it's like 65.
• 37:58
  Carmen Lezeth: No, now it's going to be $82.99.
• 38:00
  Carmen Lezeth: That was not more than two years ago that I told you it was like $65 or something and cheaper than your cable bill.
• 38:06
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 38:07
  Carmen Lezeth: So I was like let me look up the CEO.
• 38:12
  Rick Costa: Where's my 3D printer I?
• 38:16
  Carmen Lezeth: was like I saw this it's funny.
• 38:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I saw this funny like me about like streaming sites and stuff like that.
• 38:27
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And they were saying you know, before you would pay $200 for a dish or cable TV.
• 38:32
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Now you're paying, you know, $20 here for this streaming site and 50 for this.
• 38:37
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It adds up to twenty dollars.
• 38:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I mean two hundred dollars anyways.
• 38:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, it's like you because you're getting all these subscriptions.
• 38:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, just to watch what you used to watch on regular cable yeah, I'm not because I don't do streaming, but y'all know that because I like that the initial draw months at a time.
• 38:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I buy it months at a time.
• 38:54
  Carmen Lezeth: What wasn't it?
• 38:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Months at a time, what?
• 38:56
  Rick Costa: Wasn't?
• 38:57
  Rick Costa: The initial draw of YouTube was like you don't need cable, we got everything you need.
• 39:01
  Rick Costa: Come to us and you pay way less.
• 39:04
  Rick Costa: But at this rate it's going to be the same as cable.
• 39:06
  Rick Costa: It is.
• 39:06
  Rick Costa: Well, it's the same as.
• 39:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Hulu.
• 39:07
  Carmen Lezeth: So Hulu TV with ads is $82.99.
• 39:11
  Carmen Lezeth: And so now YouTube TV is also $82.99.
• 39:15
  Carmen Lezeth: They just raised it again, and so right now it's $72.99 for YouTube TV, and now it's going to be the same as Hulu, and that's what they're competing against.
• 39:23
  Carmen Lezeth: And again, why, right?
• 39:26
  Carmen Lezeth: So here's why I was looking up exactly, and it's not because they're giving me more of a product.
• 39:35
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't get an email that said, by the way, we're adding HBO to your lineup.
• 39:38
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why we're.
• 39:39
  Carmen Lezeth: They didn't say anything that they're improving.
• 39:43
  Carmen Lezeth: What they said was basically, we're competing and so we want to make sure that we're getting as much as anyone else.
• 39:50
  Carmen Lezeth: They're not offering anything, but they're competing.
• 39:53
  Carmen Lezeth: And then all the money that they're making is all about the profitability of what they, and that's why I was looking at the CEO to see how much he made, right?
• 40:01
  Carmen Lezeth: So they don't have exact details, but they know it's around the, I think, five to 7 million mark or whatever.
• 40:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like five to seven, that's it's not too bad.
• 40:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I thought it was going to be like 150 million or something.
• 40:14
  Rick Costa: I'm just kidding.
• 40:15
  Carmen Lezeth: But I mean that's you know, it was so infuriating.
• 40:18
  Carmen Lezeth: And so, yes, you're absolutely right.
• 40:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I you know I don't have any streaming and I pay for very high end Internet.
• 40:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I also pay for because I have to for work.
• 40:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I also pay for YouTube TV.
• 40:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I also have music.
• 40:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I have YouTube music.
• 40:36
  Carmen Lezeth: So whenever I look at a YouTube thing, there's no ads and I have YouTube music.
• 40:40
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's another $16.99.
• 40:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm already close to $300 a month when I used to pay almost $200 a month when I just had cable and the internet through the cable service.
• 40:50
  Carmen Lezeth: So it's higher now and I don't have streaming services.
• 40:54
  Carmen Lezeth: They're just screwing us over.
• 41:00
  Rick Costa: I just pretty much just use Roku now.
• 41:02
  Rick Costa: I mean, there's so much on there.
• 41:05
  Carmen Lezeth: You still have to have internet for Roku.
• 41:08
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I mean, everybody has internet.
• 41:10
  Rick Costa: Who doesn't?
• 41:11
  Carmen Lezeth: But here's the thing, though you have Roku, but then you also have and I know how you have it, but let's pretend you didn't but then you do have all the streaming services.
• 41:17
  Carmen Lezeth: So a lot of us don't have the ability to have it the way you have it, which is through family, so we'd still end up paying the same amount because you'd want to have all those streaming services at C-Stop.
• 41:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Roku does have a lot.
• 41:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I have Fire, my TV has Fire.
• 41:33
  Carmen Lezeth: What is it?
• 41:35
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Fire TV.
• 41:36
  Carmen Lezeth: My TV has a fire TV or something.
• 41:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, same thing.
• 41:39
  Carmen Lezeth: But I really want to be able to get all the local channels and stuff.
• 41:44
  Carmen Lezeth: But yeah, I have Roku on my other.
• 41:46
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't have another TV but I have a projector.
• 41:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Those are cool, but yeah, I mean, it's just all of it is so expensive, it's just so expensive.
• 41:59
  Carmen Lezeth: It's crazy.
• 42:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, we hate rich people, but I will say this blue shield is a non-profit.
• 42:08
  Carmen Lezeth: There are some health insurances are non-profits, but I have to say those things come with, um, their problems too.
• 42:15
  Carmen Lezeth: It doesn't mean my premium's any cheaper and it doesn't mean the CEO is making less money.
• 42:20
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 42:20
  Carmen Lezeth: So I don't know how they finagled that either, but I think things have to change and people get upset about saying universal healthcare.
• 42:26
  Carmen Lezeth: But that's where we need to go, people.
• 42:30
  Carmen Lezeth: That's not about socialism.
• 42:32
  Carmen Lezeth: That's about ending this bullshittery of not being taken care of and having the right to good healthcare.
• 42:39
  Carmen Lezeth: By the way, the only people who have great healthcare in this country.
• 42:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you know who it is the best healthcare in this country?
• 42:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Guess, who has the best healthcare in this country?
• 42:49
  Carmen Lezeth: And before you start, it is not a sports team.
• 42:54
  Rick Costa: The government.
• 42:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes.
• 42:56
  Rick Costa: Oh, I guess right.
• 42:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Our government officials all have the best healthcare you could possibly want.
• 43:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Why can't we have that?
• 43:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Why can't we, the people, have that same kind of healthcare?
• 43:11
  Carmen Lezeth: So when everyone starts throwing out these words, socialism, your government officials are getting the best health care and have the best possible policies paid for by the government, and they get the best healthcare possible, and we, the people, do not.
• 43:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Because they've stuck it in your head that that is socialism and somehow you've decided because none of you not you guys, I don't know what you do, but none of you in podcast land have picked up a book to learn what socialism is.
• 43:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, Melanie, exactly Politicians.
• 43:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, melanie, exactly Politicians.
• 43:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, the government, they have the best health care.
• 44:02
  Carmen Lezeth: So, again, all the pearl clutching of a Luigi.
• 44:05
  Carmen Lezeth: If anything, we should be saying prayers for people during this process.
• 44:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Everyone, you know what I mean, because this is.
• 44:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I think this is a I don't want to say a game changer, because it's not a game, but I think this is changing something.
• 44:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Sadly, I don't think it's a good thing.
• 44:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't want people gunning down people because they're pissed off.
• 44:31
  Rick Costa: Right.
• 44:31
  Rick Costa: Use your words, people Use your words.
• 44:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Because we all know I have enemies.
• 44:37
  Carmen Lezeth: People be like let me get my plastic gun.
• 44:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I got yelled at today by someone in my office.
• 44:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like you can yell all you want, You're still not getting it, which pissed me off even more because I didn't react.
• 44:53
  Rick Costa: That's going back to my boss again.
• 44:55
  Rick Costa: That's what he hates about me, because I do not react.
• 44:57
  Rick Costa: He's like and why'd you do that?
• 45:01
  Rick Costa: Okay, why'd you do this?
• 45:04
  Rick Costa: Made a mistake, I'm human, sorry.
• 45:09
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Okay.
• 45:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't react.
• 45:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to hear him talk to see if he really sounds like what he wants to sound like.
• 45:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just going to say, okay.
• 45:17
  Rick Costa: I'm like, yeah, what else can I say?
• 45:19
  Rick Costa: But okay, yeah, you cry, get on my knees and cry and whine.
• 45:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, cynthia and I were talking the other day, right because we had our own little private chat, well because we were testing out your stuff.
• 45:30
  Carmen Lezeth: But you said, and I said, you know it's so funny, like I do, I swear a lot, but actually when I'm angry and upset I don't swear at all.
• 45:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Like when I'm really upset and mad at like my clients or the people I work with or whatever, I'm actually totally chill and I think it's kind of funny.
• 45:48
  Carmen Lezeth: It's the irony.
• 45:50
  Rick Costa: Unless somebody from another country comes and messes up the broadcast, then it might be a little bit different.
• 45:54
  Carmen Lezeth: That's all different.
• 45:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Motherfucking, when you ask me for attention, I'm happy to give it to you, happy to give it to you.
• 45:58
  Carmen Lezeth: That's a whole different thing, but yeah, so, anyways, but that's different.
• 46:03
  Carmen Lezeth: That was also still.
• 46:05
  Carmen Lezeth: How do I say this?
• 46:09
  Rick Costa: It was cathartic, I think Cathartic.
• 46:12
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: How do you?
• 46:15
  Carmen Lezeth: You see me, you heard me, you're like right here.
• 46:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, it was a long time, motherfucking, coming.
• 46:23
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 46:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's how that went down.
• 46:25
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 46:26
  Carmen Lezeth: But whatever, whatever People do what they got to do.
• 46:28
  Carmen Lezeth: But I'm just saying, like, when you're in a work situation like what you're going through, like that's why these people get upset, or even my clients get upset with me, cause I'm just like I don't care, like I said to one of my clients the other day.
• 46:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I said I don't care if you go out on I'm not going to say the name of the street, but let's just say a Rosemary street and burn $100,000.
• 46:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't care what you do with your money, as long as my paycheck is paid, that's all I care about.
• 46:53
  Carmen Lezeth: What do you mean?
• 46:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like I mean I am not your mama, because if it were up to me, you would have sold 15 things by now.
• 47:04
  Carmen Lezeth: But you enjoy this and I don't.
• 47:12
  Carmen Lezeth: This is not my.
• 47:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not going to worry about your money.
• 47:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I go home and I sleep Friday to Monday morning.
• 47:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I sleep like a baby child because I don't care.
• 47:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Don't care.
• 47:18
  Carmen Lezeth: It was like see, it's the way you say things.
• 47:20
  Carmen Lezeth: You're trying to be funny.
• 47:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like I'm not even trying to.
• 47:23
  Carmen Lezeth: You think this is funny?
• 47:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I can't believe you say this to me.
• 47:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I can't believe you've been with us for so long.
• 47:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Why do you talk to me this way?
• 47:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like you need a therapist and.
• 47:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I ain't.
• 47:38
  Carmen Lezeth: It ain't Carmen.
• 47:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Carmen is not in the house, bitch.
• 47:42
  Rick Costa: You think there's a therapist in my arm?
• 47:44
  Rick Costa: No, I know, it's so funny.
• 47:47
  Carmen Lezeth: People get all upset because they want you to react.
• 47:50
  Carmen Lezeth: They want you to be all like sometimes the best thing to do is just you know, use your words kindly, luigi.
• 47:58
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm just kidding, I don't know.
• 48:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel I feel bad for him in a way, but you know, he went into jail, he's in custody and even in the, even in the in the jail, they were saying the other prisoners heard what was happening, right, because they were all saying free Luigi.
• 48:20
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm sorry, the name is just killing you, isn't it?
• 48:25
  Carmen Lezeth: But it's also just a circumstance.
• 48:26
  Carmen Lezeth: So, like he's going to be safe in prison, you know what I mean.
• 48:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Like he's going to be okay, like it's in prison.
• 48:32
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 48:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Like he's gonna be okay, like it's weird, you know?
• 48:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, how about the mcdonald's person that us, you know, called him in?
• 48:39
  Carmen Lezeth: How do you guys feel about that?
• 48:44
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: oh, you guys don't know what happened the way he went to mcdonald's and someone found him there.
• 48:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Wasn't it like the manager there.
• 48:54
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I don't know the whole story, but he was in there having a burger or whatever.
• 48:57
  Carmen Lezeth: He had gotten away for five days.
• 49:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Motherfucker should have been out the country.
• 49:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying you planned something.
• 49:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You could have followed it through.
• 49:06
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 49:07
  Carmen Lezeth: It would have been like one of those folk things.
• 49:10
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 49:10
  Carmen Lezeth: It would have been like one of those folk things.
• 49:11
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 49:12
  Carmen Lezeth: It was like, uh, whatever you call those things that you can never pinpoint what actually happened.
• 49:16
  Carmen Lezeth: You know it would be, but he, um, he went to McDonald's and somebody there called him.
• 49:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Uh, they snitched on him and that's how they got a hold of him.
• 49:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Uh, mara just said good for him, he needed the money, get the reward.
• 49:32
  Carmen Lezeth: The irony is is he's not going to get the reward.
• 49:33
  Carmen Lezeth: So here's the other thing people don't know.
• 49:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Here's the thing you got.
• 49:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I know he's not going to get the reward and I think it was a woman turned his ass.
• 49:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, here's the thing you have to call the tip line and the person called 911.
• 49:51
  Carmen Lezeth: And now there's somebody else out there saying that he saw him first.
• 49:55
  Carmen Lezeth: So they're fighting over the 50, 60, 000, whatever it was.
• 49:57
  Carmen Lezeth: By the way very low bounty for the amount of money we're talking.
• 50:01
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Hold on hold on not to cut you off, but even the cops are there playing a game like insurance.
• 50:08
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, you have to call the tip line.
• 50:09
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You can't call 9-1.
• 50:10
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm still calling you to come and get this guy.
• 50:15
  Carmen Lezeth: It's the FBI, Not the cops.
• 50:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm happy to diss the cops at any moment I can, but this is not the cops' fault Well the FBI.
• 50:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Right right, they're doing the same thing.
• 50:27
  Carmen Lezeth: They're fucking around with whatever.
• 50:28
  Carmen Lezeth: But also there's somebody else claiming that they were the first ones to notice him and they told the person and the person called 911.
• 50:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I know we all did.
• 50:40
  Carmen Lezeth: We were all there at McDonald's putting out money to reward people for finding people.
• 50:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it's 20% of the time they actually pay out and when they do, it's also taxed.
• 50:56
  Carmen Lezeth: So I mean I'm like wait, see, you cannot do this to the people.
• 51:02
  Carmen Lezeth: You cannot do this to the people.
• 51:05
  Rick Costa: No, yeah, now we know.
• 51:07
  Rick Costa: Well, am I even going to get?
• 51:09
  Rick Costa: Is it going to be worth it for me to even turn this guy in?
• 51:11
  Rick Costa: Because right.
• 51:12
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: This is why people don't say anything.
• 51:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Because here's the thing right, it's always good to do the right thing.
• 51:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Right.
• 51:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Because at the end of the day there was somebody out there violent enough to kill someone what's to say he wouldn't kill someone else, and someday that might be you because whatever, right.
• 51:31
  Carmen Lezeth: So I still think I I'm not mad at the person for turning them in.
• 51:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I know a lot of people were like snitch and whatever, and people like he got an alibi.
• 51:41
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Luigi was with me, I was he was waiting for somebody named mario to say he was with me.
• 51:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They were saying they were saying what mario just say.
• 51:50
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: He was with me.
• 51:50
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what they were saying.
• 51:51
  Carmen Lezeth: They were saying, well, mario just said he was with him, but yeah, because of the game.
• 51:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, it's a fucking game.
• 51:55
  Carmen Lezeth: People were already doing that on TikTok.
• 51:57
  Carmen Lezeth: It was so funny, and I think that's the other part of this too.
• 52:00
  Carmen Lezeth: The story itself is so bizarre.
• 52:03
  Carmen Lezeth: It's so bizarre.
• 52:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I think the way in which people handle things is what this is also about.
• 52:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, right, I think it's always good to do the right thing, and somebody asked me if I would have called him in, if I would have called the cops or if I would have snitched on him.
• 52:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't like the word snitch, I think that's bad.
• 52:26
  Carmen Lezeth: The truth is, I always follow the rules.
• 52:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I always do the right thing.
• 52:30
  Carmen Lezeth: So if I recognized him, I don't think I would have recognized.
• 52:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Like that's the thing.
• 52:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I see celebrities every day and I don't know who the hell they are half the time Cause they're not in there.
• 52:39
  Carmen Lezeth: You know they're not in context, so I don't know who they are.
• 52:42
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if I would have noticed, but if I did, I probably would have called the cops for sure.
• 52:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not going to lie, I probably would have, because I think doing the right thing is also the right thing.
• 52:55
  Carmen Lezeth: In this case.
• 52:55
  Carmen Lezeth: He killed somebody with a gun and, as much as I can understand that somebody else killed other people by making profit and using paper.
• 53:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Two rights don't make a wrong for me.
• 53:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Two wrongs don't make a right for me.
• 53:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry.
• 53:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Right Did I say that that's right?
• 53:11
  Carmen Lezeth: That's right.
• 53:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Two wrongs don't make a wrong for me.
• 53:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Two wrongs don't make a right for me, I'm sorry.
• 53:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Right Did I say that that's right.
• 53:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Two wrongs don't make a right for me.
• 53:15
  Carmen Lezeth: So both of those entities.
• 53:17
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 53:20
  Rick Costa: So I probably would have called it.
• 53:21
  Rick Costa: I view it, too, as you possibly protecting somebody else down the line, because, like you said, if you killed one person, what's to stop them?
• 53:27
  Carmen Lezeth: from killing somebody else.
• 53:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Right person was to stop him from killing somebody else, right?
• 53:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, so I I probably would have, but I think it's been interesting to watch.
• 53:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Like that mcdonald's got all of these uh bad reviews and it has like a one-star rating and people saying there are rats in the mcdonald's and people.
• 53:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me tell you, the internet has unleashed the fury of uh people kind of coming together and the irony is is it's both Democrats and Republicans.
• 53:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Like it don't matter, this was all across.
• 53:57
  Carmen Lezeth: This is everybody coming together and saying you fucked up, not Luigi, but the insurance companies.
• 54:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 54:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I find that fascinating Society is fascinating to me.
• 54:09
  Rick Costa: I saw somebody talking about the whole McDonald's thing.
• 54:12
  Rick Costa: They were like the internet is internetting again because everybody's leaving bad reviews and now they're trying to delete them all as much as they can.
• 54:21
  Rick Costa: And I'm like, oh man, can you just watch?
• 54:23
  Rick Costa: Can?
• 54:24
  Carmen Lezeth: you just watch.
• 54:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Hi Charlie, how are you?
• 54:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I just look at I.
• 54:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel like it's a.
• 54:38
  Carmen Lezeth: It's a tough time in our country.
• 54:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I think this was, in a weird way, a uniting moment to watch people kind of deal with this and we'll see what happens.
• 54:44
  Carmen Lezeth: But I'm I.
• 54:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I think being mad at people's reaction and clutching your pearls off around it without looking at the nuance is actually doing a bigger disservice.
• 54:54
  Carmen Lezeth: You know to really what the problem here is and the problem here the problem here.
• 54:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Let's be clear.
• 55:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, we've caught this murderer, killer, allegedly he will be dealt with.
• 55:07
  Carmen Lezeth: But are you going to deal with the health insurance problem?
• 55:13
  Carmen Lezeth: because this is not going to be the last of it if you don't do something about it.
• 55:17
  Carmen Lezeth: This is not going to be the last of it.
• 55:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Come on now.
• 55:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I ain't threatening nobody, so I don't want nobody to come to me I ain't got no.
• 55:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I ain't got no three-way printer, and that is not what I am.
• 55:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I use my motherfucking words as people now, but I'm just saying Copycat killers just saying.
• 55:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, charlie just said rich people killing rich people.
• 55:42
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, right, I know it's still bad.
• 55:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, somebody's like how can you not have compassion for his children and his wife?
• 55:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like bitch, please.
• 55:56
  Carmen Lezeth: First of all, okay, there are plenty of people that I could have compassion for that I don't that I actually know like this isn't about.
• 56:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I have compassion for anyone who has lost anything.
• 56:08
  Carmen Lezeth: They have enough money to get therapy and do what they need to do.
• 56:10
  Carmen Lezeth: What do you want me to say?
• 56:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know them.
• 56:12
  Carmen Lezeth: People get all upset, like how am I supposed to?
• 56:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Of course, I have compassion.
• 56:16
  Carmen Lezeth: That's a horrible thing that happened.
• 56:18
  Carmen Lezeth: But that's not the only subject here Nuance.
• 56:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I think what we're going to do for 2025, we're going to start talking about nuance everyone.
• 56:27
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to start talking about how things have layers.
• 56:32
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to become a much more educated audience and group of people.
• 56:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Charlie's like what's the world coming to?
• 56:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I think the world's always been like this.
• 56:39
  Carmen Lezeth: We just have better technology to do it together.
• 56:42
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 56:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I think we've always been like this.
• 56:46
  Carmen Lezeth: We've always been angry, but now people got a voice and I'm all for it.
• 56:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm all here for it.
• 56:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not here for the killing.
• 56:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm here for the part where people are trying to come together to fix something that's broken because government hasn't fixed it and insurance companies are the devil.
• 57:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to say it Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
• 57:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Anything else you guys want to talk about before we start to chime it down, since we're almost at the hour mark remember my cousin.
• 57:16
  Rick Costa: She, um, she died at 34 from cancer and she kept going to different doctors because she was having pain.
• 57:24
  Rick Costa: She didn't know, she had no clue, she had cancer.
• 57:26
  Rick Costa: And they were literally all of them telling her different thing, different thing, different thing.
• 57:30
  Rick Costa: And they're like just take some pain medicine, just, I'm taking so much already because this pain is unbearable.
• 57:36
  Rick Costa: And then one day she woke up, went in the mirror and whites of the eyes yellow, skin yellow.
• 57:41
  Rick Costa: She was jaundiced.
• 57:42
  Rick Costa: So she went to the hospital and they're like you know, kept her there for a few days, like, okay, you're good now, so we're gonna send you home.
• 57:50
  Rick Costa: She said no, nope, I'm not going home.
• 57:53
  Rick Costa: What do you mean?
• 57:54
  Rick Costa: Till somebody figures out what's wrong with me, I'm not going anywhere.
• 57:57
  Rick Costa: And then they finally did scans and found out she had bile duct cancer.
• 58:02
  Rick Costa: So wow a year later she died wow uh, charlie just said go home thing was the insurance probably probably that's why.
• 58:10
  Carmen Lezeth: It's why I brought that up.
• 58:11
  Carmen Lezeth: It also was bad health care.
• 58:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I want to respond to that, though.
• 58:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I just want to say Charlie said absolutely, you ever watched Deadwood?
• 58:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I did watch Deadwood.
• 58:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if you have.
• 58:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Have you guys watched Deadwood?
• 58:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Unless there's firemen in it, we don't really watch it.
• 58:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Here's what I'm going to say, and this is going to be a pitch for Planned Parenthood, and there's a reason why I'm saying it.
• 58:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I know that Planned Parenthood has been put in this category of being all about abortion.
• 58:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, abortion, abortion, abortion.
• 58:42
  Carmen Lezeth: That's all you ever associate with Planned Parenthood.
• 58:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I am going to tell you right now poor people, myself included, when I grew up, the way in which I got healthcare was by going to Planned Parenthood and to the community centers that they had open in the neighborhood.
• 58:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Remember the Jamaica Plain Health Center?
• 58:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Is that still there in Jamaica Plain?
• 59:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Still there, oh my God.
• 59:04
  Carmen Lezeth: And never once was I sat down and told okay, carmen, if you're pregnant, get an abortion.
• 59:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Never once, because I was a kid, but it was a place to get good health insurance, especially as a young girl.
• 59:18
  Carmen Lezeth: And so part of what you're talking about, rick, is bad doctors, new doctors that don't have a lot of experience, because poor people always end up having to go wherever they can get to and there's not enough place that are really great and valid, that have enough money, resources to have the good people there, and one of the things you can always count on at Planned Parenthood is that the people that are working there are, on point, educated at the best places, are great doctors.
• 59:51
  Carmen Lezeth: It's an actual clinic.
• 59:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's an actual clinic.
• 59:55
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's not just a place where people get abortions, and that's what people have this stigma about it, and it's not.
• 1:00:02
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's an actual clinic where people go just for the regular healthcare, did you?
• 1:00:07
  Carmen Lezeth: ever go there.
• 1:00:09
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I've never gone there.
• 1:00:10
  Carmen Lezeth: My friend has though yeah, but so Jamaica Plain Health Center is not Planned Parenthood, but they were always the offshoots.
• 1:00:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I always knew where I had to go and even when I was in Vermont and even when I first came out to Los Angeles, I looked for the plant.
• 1:00:24
  Carmen Lezeth: It's like as simple as me finding out where the firehouse is and the police department is, like I always have the numbers because I came out here by myself, so I always have this, so I always know who, like where everything is or whatever.
• 1:00:35
  Carmen Lezeth: It's the same thing.
• 1:00:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I always look for the health clinic.
• 1:00:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, so that's a great point.
• 1:00:39
  Carmen Lezeth: It is a health clinic.
• 1:00:40
  Carmen Lezeth: That is the whole point.
• 1:00:41
  Carmen Lezeth: So I get annoyed because it gets stigmatized with this and I don't ever think I had one person talk to me ever about an abortion at a Planned Parenthood.
• 1:00:51
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Right, yeah.
• 1:00:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Ever.
• 1:00:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I think I heard about it because people were always protesting it, but I don't think I've ever walked in there and had anyone talk to me about an abortion.
• 1:01:00
  Carmen Lezeth: But I'm sorry, I'm pitching for Planned Parenthood here, but I'm also pitching for you to change your minds about supporting community health centers in your neighborhood.
• 1:01:11
  Carmen Lezeth: For this reason because, rick, what you're talking about is also just like I don't care what my health insurance says.
• 1:01:18
  Carmen Lezeth: If my doctor tells me something, I'm gonna do what my doctor tells me.
• 1:01:23
  Carmen Lezeth: But if my doctor's like you know you're, you're fine, you're good, you look hello, but go home, right, that's a bad doctor, right?
• 1:01:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, did you guys sue them?
• 1:01:35
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I don't think they ever did that.
• 1:01:38
  Carmen Lezeth: But you know why.
• 1:01:39
  Carmen Lezeth: You know why you didn't sue them because we're not empowered to sue them.
• 1:01:42
  Carmen Lezeth: But I know the people I work for who have money.
• 1:01:48
  Carmen Lezeth: If that ever happened in their family, they would have sued them in a heartbeat because they had the resources and the money to do it.
• 1:01:52
  Carmen Lezeth: They have the lawyers on retainer and, if anything, they would have had a settlement out of court.
• 1:01:57
  Carmen Lezeth: But poor people or regular hardworking people would never even think about suing for that injustice.
• 1:02:03
  Carmen Lezeth: And how old was she?
• 1:02:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You said 34.
• 1:02:05
  Carmen Lezeth: 34 and misdiagnosed.
• 1:02:08
  Carmen Lezeth: For how long?
• 1:02:11
  Rick Costa: Had to be a couple of years at least.
• 1:02:12
  Rick Costa: It was literally nobody said nothing.
• 1:02:16
  Rick Costa: Like nobody figured that.
• 1:02:17
  Rick Costa: They literally said all different things.
• 1:02:19
  Rick Costa: One person even said something about her feet.
• 1:02:20
  Rick Costa: Had nothing to do with her feet.
• 1:02:22
  Rick Costa: What are you talking about?
• 1:02:23
  Rick Costa: Like cause she kept going to different doctors and like she's like nobody's telling me what's going on, nobody's helping me.
• 1:02:28
  Rick Costa: I'm still in pain.
• 1:02:29
  Rick Costa: It's crazy.
• 1:02:30
  Rick Costa: Until she put her foot down.
• 1:02:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 1:02:34
  Carmen Lezeth: But she still passed away.
• 1:02:36
  Carmen Lezeth: This is too young.
• 1:02:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry, guys.
• 1:02:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, okay, let's talk about something joyous before we jump on.
• 1:02:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, do you guys want to start with something?
• 1:02:47
  Carmen Lezeth: Anything great happen this past week or anything you want to share?
• 1:02:52
  Rick Costa: Besides this new device.
• 1:02:54
  Rick Costa: Did we talk about that online or no?
• 1:02:56
  Rick Costa: Did we say that already?
• 1:02:57
  Carmen Lezeth: What new device?
• 1:02:58
  Carmen Lezeth: What are you talking about?
• 1:02:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Mine, yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, we did.
• 1:03:02
  Rick Costa: Oh, we did, okay, sorry.
• 1:03:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You're excited, so you're excited for Cynthia's new tablet, my new tablet.
• 1:03:09
  Rick Costa: I also got a new device, which I mentioned last week.
• 1:03:12
  Rick Costa: Yeah, you did these are things that give you guys joy Wow.
• 1:03:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, I'm just kidding.
• 1:03:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I know I'm a bitch.
• 1:03:19
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's a little thing, you're thinking it.
• 1:03:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I know You're like damn, carmen's a bitch.
• 1:03:24
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm sorry, I'm just kidding.
• 1:03:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, but okay, are you looking forward to anything?
• 1:03:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Anything coming up this weekend?
• 1:03:34
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh yes, actually, this Saturday is our Christmas family dinner.
• 1:03:40
  Carmen Lezeth: This is our third one, I'm sorry, our Christmas family dinner.
• 1:03:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Well me, my brother, my sisters and some of the kids.
• 1:03:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Your family Christmas dinner, right, yeah, okay, I'm not included.
• 1:03:54
  Carmen Lezeth: See how I'm family when it's convenient.
• 1:04:00
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: We can FaceTime with you Sure whatever.
• 1:04:01
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm just messing with you.
• 1:04:03
  Rick Costa: Do you always do it this early?
• 1:04:05
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, because on Christmas it's so hard because everybody has different families, so Christmas Eve and Christmas Day is always split up, so we try to do it a little earlier.
• 1:04:15
  Carmen Lezeth: And also it's Teresa's birthday on the 14th or something right On Sunday, saturday, saturday, oh my God, I have to work tomorrow again too.
• 1:04:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me see, rick, what about you?
• 1:04:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, so when do you find out?
• 1:04:30
  Carmen Lezeth: You think he's going to talk to you tomorrow.
• 1:04:34
  Rick Costa: My weekend will depend on tomorrow.
• 1:04:35
  Rick Costa: I guess he might not even say nothing and just drop it.
• 1:04:38
  Rick Costa: I don't know.
• 1:04:39
  Rick Costa: It's not the first time.
• 1:04:40
  Carmen Lezeth: But you did set it up.
• 1:04:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You set up your camera thing in the bedroom with your mouse.
• 1:04:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm trying to think of a remote remote control, something he could have that pushes the mouse around every few minutes.
• 1:04:54
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 1:04:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Like, I'm sorry, I just crack it up about that.
• 1:05:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You can buy like a little remote control car.
• 1:05:02
  Carmen Lezeth: It could be the other room.
• 1:05:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just kidding, I'm sorry.
• 1:05:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry you're going through that, but hopefully he does drop it and it's not a big deal.
• 1:05:11
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I try to see the positive in it.
• 1:05:14
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: If he drops it, he drops it, but if something worse does end up happening, just think of it as a blessing, that it's something where you can move on.
• 1:05:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Maybe it's meant for you to move on from this job, since you've been there for so long.
• 1:05:27
  Rick Costa: Yeah, that's how I try to look at things.
• 1:05:30
  Rick Costa: Don't necessarily think it's something bad.
• 1:05:32
  Rick Costa: It might be a launching pad for something better.
• 1:05:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, Exactly when a window closes, a door opens, something like that.
• 1:05:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I don't know if I really believe that, but I want to believe it.
• 1:05:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know.
• 1:05:45
  Carmen Lezeth: There's a part of me that's just kind of mad that anybody would play that game with you to try to get you out after that many years.
• 1:05:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, it's just like like for me.
• 1:05:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I want to call and be like what are you doing?
• 1:05:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Like, if you want to get rid of them, just get rid of them.
• 1:05:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Why are you playing this game?
• 1:06:01
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Right.
• 1:06:01
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, but you'll definitely do not quit.
• 1:06:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Remember, do not quit.
• 1:06:13
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You want to get unemployment and who knows?
• 1:06:14
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And whatever the reason is, have him do it in writing Always have it in writing.
• 1:06:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah.
• 1:06:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, that's not the note I wanted to go off on, but it still seems kind of very.
• 1:06:26
  Carmen Lezeth: What are your plans, carmen?
• 1:06:27
  Carmen Lezeth: What are my plans for the weekend?
• 1:06:29
  Carmen Lezeth: So I have one client whose main person just went on vacation today.
• 1:06:35
  Carmen Lezeth: They haven't had a vacation in like 10, 15 years and they just left today.
• 1:06:39
  Carmen Lezeth: So I am working my butt off to cover that person because I want them to have a relaxing, wonderful time.
• 1:06:47
  Carmen Lezeth: They're actually on a cruise, cynthia.
• 1:06:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like oh, a cruise?
• 1:06:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay.
• 1:06:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Well, whatever works for you.
• 1:06:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry, I said I wouldn't go at this time, but okay, well, it's him and his family, and I don't know where they were going, but I didn't ask.
• 1:07:02
  Carmen Lezeth: But I was like cruise, you know, I shut off, I'm like la, la, la, la, la la, but it's his entire family, so it's like a whole thing.
• 1:07:10
  Carmen Lezeth: So my whole thing is like I'm just going to power through for the next week because I am working for three different clients, but this client I'm doing like double the work and whatever, and so, even though it's not a exciting thing and it's not something I really want to do, it's a challenge for me and I know that it's going to help him have a really nice time.
• 1:07:31
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm looking forward to it being over when he returns after Christmas.
• 1:07:37
  Carmen Lezeth: So we'll see.
• 1:07:38
  Carmen Lezeth: So, yeah, there's nothing joyful.
• 1:07:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, for me either, I guess yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Carmen Lezeth: So you know, it's always all about the joy at the end of the day.
• 1:07:48
  Carmen Lezeth: See, we're all smiling.
• 1:07:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Anyways, I think it's fun to share.
• 1:07:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I do have a question though.
• 1:07:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia, you're going to watch Stargate SG-1.
• 1:07:58
  Carmen Lezeth: You're going to try to watch it?
• 1:07:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, when are you going to try to watch it?
• 1:08:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, no, because, rick, I was thinking we should watch it again.
• 1:08:07
  Carmen Lezeth: We should watch it again and do a commentary or something every once in a while.
• 1:08:11
  Carmen Lezeth: What do you think?
• 1:08:12
  Rick Costa: I mean, I watch a lot of people that do review things movies and TV shows all the time.
• 1:08:20
  Carmen Lezeth: There's so many times I'm like I wish I could do that, but wouldn't it be fun if we did it?
• 1:08:24
  Carmen Lezeth: But we need somebody new to watch the episode so that we could go along with them.
• 1:08:29
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why I'm kind of pressuring Cynthia to do it.
• 1:08:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, so it's.
• 1:08:34
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Stargate SG-1.
• 1:08:35
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: And it's the show, not the movie.
• 1:08:39
  Rick Costa: As opposed to the movie which is just called Stargate.
• 1:08:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Do not watch it.
• 1:08:41
  Carmen Lezeth: She does not need to watch the movie.
• 1:08:43
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just going to make her not want to watch it.
• 1:08:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry, it's a different thing.
• 1:08:52
  Rick Costa: What do you think?
• 1:08:53
  Rick Costa: Do you think?
• 1:08:53
  Rick Costa: I mean, I have appreciation for both, but um, if the point is to get her hooked into the sg1, then yeah, I probably just watched sg1.
• 1:08:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Look, here's the thing kurt russell, um.
• 1:08:59
  Carmen Lezeth: And what's not javid spade?
• 1:09:02
  Rick Costa: it's uh, it's not james spader oh, yes, yeah, yeah, is it james, but yeah, I think that's j.
• 1:09:08
  Carmen Lezeth: James Bader are in the movie, right?
• 1:09:12
  Carmen Lezeth: So Kurt Russell, remember, like, whatever, and it's the continuation of that movie.
• 1:09:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Basically is what the TV show is.
• 1:09:19
  Carmen Lezeth: But Colonel Jack O'Neill, who is played by MacGyver Remember MacGyver back in the day, right?
• 1:09:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Richard Dean Anderson Is a whole different ballgame than Colonel Jack O'neill in the movie played by kurt russell, and it just.
• 1:09:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I think you don't, you, you do not need to see the movie at all because I think it'll turn, I think it'll turn her off.
• 1:09:42
  Carmen Lezeth: I, I had seen the movie, didn't like the movie and when, when the show came out, the only reason why I watched is because everyone knows I was addicted to Richard Dean Anderson.
• 1:09:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I can't believe he's like in his 70s now and I'm like I get so sad when I look at men that I was so hot for and I'm like, oh my God, you're so old, I'm so cute and adorable because I'm getting my face flipped in Chile, going to Chile, getting all tuxed and everything.
• 1:10:15
  Carmen Lezeth: So I think it would be cool.
• 1:10:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I was thinking about this If you watch Stargate SG-1, you could do one episode a week.
• 1:10:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, we could do a different show.
• 1:10:24
  Carmen Lezeth: We could come on, maybe on a Friday night or whatever, and talk about this show.
• 1:10:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not trying to force you to do another show, whatever day.
• 1:10:30
  Carmen Lezeth: It doesn't have to be a live one.
• 1:10:30
  Carmen Lezeth: We could do it closed and then air a Friday night or whatever and talk about this show.
• 1:10:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not trying to force you to do another show with it, whatever day we could, it doesn't have to be a live one.
• 1:10:36
  Carmen Lezeth: We could do it closed and then air it.
• 1:10:37
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 1:10:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Like, then I can do it and air it.
• 1:10:39
  Carmen Lezeth: We could just do a commentary on this.
• 1:10:40
  Carmen Lezeth: It might be fun, I don't know, but is that too much pressure?
• 1:10:43
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, I mean I'll watch it, probably before the end of the year.
• 1:10:47
  Carmen Lezeth: End of the year Like a 10-episode.
• 1:10:50
  Rick Costa: I was going to say, should we talk about one episode?
• 1:10:52
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: We're talking about one episode.
• 1:10:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, okay, yeah, I can do one episode right now.
• 1:10:56
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, you're thinking about?
• 1:10:57
  Carmen Lezeth: watching the entire series.
• 1:10:58
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, no what I'm saying is It'll take too long.
• 1:11:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, it's like 10 seasons.
• 1:11:04
  Rick Costa: Hey, I watched.
• 1:11:07
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Game of Thrones that had eight seasons, 21 episodes in a week, what I?
• 1:11:13
  Carmen Lezeth: sure did.
• 1:11:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I ain't got that kind of time, damn, really.
• 1:11:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you love it?
• 1:11:17
  Carmen Lezeth: You must have loved it, I loved it.
• 1:11:20
  Rick Costa: Oh yeah, she had to have.
• 1:11:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, can I tell you Game of Thrones.
• 1:11:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I watched 20 minutes and I was like I'm out, I'm out the whole forest and the killing and I'm like and I'm done, I'm done.
• 1:11:30
  Carmen Lezeth: It was too deep for me, I was done, didn't even get.
• 1:11:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I swear to you, 20 minutes most.
• 1:11:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you watch Game of Thrones, rick?
• 1:11:39
  Carmen Lezeth: No See, did you even try?
• 1:11:42
  Rick Costa: No, Based on what I heard about it, I was like, yeah, I don't think that's for me no.
• 1:11:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Based on what I heard about it, I was like, yeah, I don't think that's for me.
• 1:11:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I would think you would love game of thrones.
• 1:11:51
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That's so weird right, cynthia, I would think he would.
• 1:11:52
  Carmen Lezeth: You know why I don't like it?
• 1:11:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Because it's too gory for me.
• 1:11:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, yeah, it's too dark.
• 1:11:57
  Carmen Lezeth: But, rick, I'm surprised.
• 1:11:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I would have thought you would have been like loving games of thrones because it seems right up your alley you know what would be right up your alley is 9-1-1.
• 1:12:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying, if I'm gonna make cynthia watch, okay, no, cynthia, I was saying watch one episode, watch one any specific one or like okay okay, besides a pilot, isn't there an episode where they are in a false reality and they're firemen?
• 1:12:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, Are you being funny?
• 1:12:32
  Carmen Lezeth: I was just telling Cynthia about it.
• 1:12:33
  Carmen Lezeth: It's called Changeling.
• 1:12:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you know which one it is, rick, it's Changeling when Teal'c is sharing the symbiote with Braytac, but he's having that mental moment where he thinks he's a fireman and thinks he's on SG.
• 1:12:49
  Carmen Lezeth: It's really well done.
• 1:12:51
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I'm talking about.
• 1:12:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, it doesn't sound interesting.
• 1:12:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I think you would like it.
• 1:13:00
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, no, cynthia, watch the pilot.
• 1:13:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Just watch the first pilot and then we'll have a conversation about it.
• 1:13:06
  Carmen Lezeth: But if you don't want to do it, it's fine, we'll find somebody else.
• 1:13:10
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'll watch it it's kicking me out, that's all we can get somebody else to do it.
• 1:13:18
  Carmen Lezeth: You know who would be the somebody else who would never do it, andrea.
• 1:13:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I will, I will fucking watch that shit.
• 1:13:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, wait, one more thing.
• 1:13:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Wicked, thing, wicked.
• 1:13:29
  Carmen Lezeth: You saw Wicked Cynthia.
• 1:13:35
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yes, I love it.
• 1:13:36
  Rick Costa: I love the play.
• 1:13:36
  Rick Costa: I love the play Rick did you see it, yet how can I?
• 1:13:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I know Well you've seen other movies.
• 1:13:42
  Rick Costa: I'm just saying there's these people that I watch.
• 1:13:45
  Rick Costa: And this one guy was like Adam, he's like I'm not going to watch that movie.
• 1:13:48
  Rick Costa: And then he said you know what, if you guys, if I get because he gets super chats on his channel, because he's up there, or whatever he goes if I get $1,000, I will watch Wicked.
• 1:13:59
  Rick Costa: And the people were like we're going to make him watch Wicked.
• 1:14:01
  Rick Costa: And they did.
• 1:14:05
  Carmen Lezeth: And he's like, oh, he go see it.
• 1:14:06
  Rick Costa: I didn't see it.
• 1:14:07
  Rick Costa: I think it's this weekend.
• 1:14:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, he's going to love it.
• 1:14:10
  Carmen Lezeth: It's so good right.
• 1:14:11
  Rick Costa: He hates musicals.
• 1:14:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Everybody hates musicals.
• 1:14:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I can watch it anyways, stop.
• 1:14:17
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Let me say one thing about this with the whole musical thing.
• 1:14:20
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I've seen so many musicals in the past and there are movies where everything is just singing and singing and singing and it's annoying.
• 1:14:28
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: This one and yes, it had singing, but it wasn't overpowering the movie like you had the specific songs, obviously, but there was a lot of talking.
• 1:14:41
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It wasn't like the whole movie was just singing.
• 1:14:43
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So don't go into that.
• 1:14:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know, thinking that, my God, they're just going to be singing throughout the whole thing.
• 1:14:50
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's not like that.
• 1:14:51
  Carmen Lezeth: It is so well done, but I think it's because we love the story.
• 1:14:55
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why we but it is a lot they sing through the whole movie, Cynthia.
• 1:14:59
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They do, they do.
• 1:15:03
  Carmen Lezeth: It's done so well and you lose that they're singing.
• 1:15:05
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what you mean.
• 1:15:06
  Carmen Lezeth: It's done so well that and you lose that they're singing.
• 1:15:08
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what you mean.
• 1:15:08
  Carmen Lezeth: It's done so well that it's a story that's happening.
• 1:15:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:15
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's so good.
• 1:15:16
  Carmen Lezeth: It's so good and part two is going to be amazing.
• 1:15:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God.
• 1:15:20
  Rick Costa: When's that supposed to come out?
• 1:15:21
  Rick Costa: Next year or something Next year November.
• 1:15:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, yeah I got to say, I cried.
• 1:15:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, I gotta say I cried.
• 1:15:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, here's the thing.
• 1:15:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I knew the story.
• 1:15:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't cry.
• 1:15:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I did my TikTok thing.
• 1:15:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I knew the story.
• 1:15:32
  Carmen Lezeth: This is me going into Wicked.
• 1:15:34
  Carmen Lezeth: You know how everybody did that.
• 1:15:35
  Carmen Lezeth: This is me after Wicked.
• 1:15:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like it was good, I didn't cry, though I didn't enjoy it.
• 1:15:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I thought they were both brilliant.
• 1:15:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I thought what's her name?
• 1:15:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Both of them I'm forgetting that Ariana Grande and then Cynthia Erivo Cynthia Erivo, Right, Uh, they were just brilliant.
• 1:15:56
  Carmen Lezeth: But also, can we give props to what's his name?
• 1:15:59
  Carmen Lezeth: That young man?
• 1:16:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Let's give him some.
• 1:16:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Who plays fairy?
• 1:16:03
  Carmen Lezeth: How do you say it?
• 1:16:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Fairio, oh, oh.
• 1:16:07
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I forgot his name.
• 1:16:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that boy is hot.
• 1:16:09
  Carmen Lezeth: That boy is hot.
• 1:16:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that's Luigi.
• 1:16:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that's not Luigi, he's not Luigi.
• 1:16:16
  Carmen Lezeth: But what's his name?
• 1:16:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I forgot his name, I forgot.
• 1:16:19
  Carmen Lezeth: But he is a sweetheart.
• 1:16:20
  Carmen Lezeth: But he plays one of the main characters too, and he ends up becoming the scarecrow for people.
• 1:16:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I probably gave too much away right there, but he ends up becoming oh, whatever, go see it Spoiler, spoiler, but he's amazing.
• 1:16:37
  Carmen Lezeth: And the dancing.
• 1:16:40
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh, my God, the dancing.
• 1:16:42
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: The dancing was so cool.
• 1:16:45
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Well done, can you say?
• 1:16:47
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Ariana Grande, grande.
• 1:16:48
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They picked the perfect person to play glinda, because she always plays this like little ditzy, like girl.
• 1:16:57
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But it was like I saw her and I saw kristen chenowitz oh, it was.
• 1:17:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Didn't you love that part, though?
• 1:17:04
  Carmen Lezeth: And kristen, oh my, yes, that would be a spoiler, let me.
• 1:17:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't, don't know, but theater people like, unless you're theater people, you don't know who they are.
• 1:17:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, the woman who sang Frozen and Kristen Chenoweth they were in the theater aspect and they come into the movie as the same thing.
• 1:17:21
  Carmen Lezeth: It's very funny, cause they come on stage and you could tell all the theater people in the room, cause everybody was like could tell all the theater people in the room, because everybody, yeah, rick, it's kind of like when you saw captain america come out and he did, uh, what more did pool, deadpool, deadpool, it's kind of that same thing.
• 1:17:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Like captain america comes out but it's not captain america, and you're like, oh my god, it's that same feeling.
• 1:17:46
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 1:17:46
  Carmen Lezeth: But you can tell who all the theater people are, because some people don't know who they are.
• 1:17:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, yeah, which is so weird because they're royalty, right, you know exactly, exactly.
• 1:17:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But anyway, it was so good oh see we found joy to end on.
• 1:18:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, everyone, thank you so much.
• 1:18:07
  Carmen Lezeth: We'll be back next week for sure.
• 1:18:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh wait, okay, we stopped for a moment, hey sorry, okay.
• 1:18:14
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So um, oh no, there is a christmas craft festival that's going on over here in the seaport.
• 1:18:20
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Right that I went to uh-huh and I got this right before I went to see wicked, and I just put it together.
• 1:18:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh wait, are you sending that to me for Christmas?
• 1:18:32
  Carmen Lezeth: That is nice, isn't that amazing?
• 1:18:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I love that Because people who don't know Wicked is intertwined with the Wizard of Oz.
• 1:18:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think a lot of people know that.
• 1:18:45
  Carmen Lezeth: They don't get it.
• 1:18:48
  Carmen Lezeth: They don't understand that Wicked is about the Wicked Witch of the West and the story starts when she melts and dies, when Dorothy throws water on her and she dies.
• 1:18:59
  Carmen Lezeth: That's when the story starts, and then they go back to the beginning as to how, what happened.
• 1:19:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, what happened, and so that is really great.
• 1:19:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I love that You're sending that to me.
• 1:19:13
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Happy birthday to me it's in your will.
• 1:19:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I can't understand why it's just so beautiful.
• 1:19:23
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.
• 1:19:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I love that.
• 1:19:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Actually it's beautiful.
• 1:19:28
  Carmen Lezeth: So where did you get that?
• 1:19:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, you got it at a craft show.
• 1:19:31
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, so in one of the booths the lady does the illustrations.
• 1:19:35
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: She had tons of different characters and I saw that one and I had to get it.
• 1:19:41
  Carmen Lezeth: That's really cool.
• 1:19:42
  Carmen Lezeth: It's actually a beautiful one, so it's cool.
• 1:19:44
  Carmen Lezeth: All right, everyone.
• 1:19:45
  Carmen Lezeth: With that, I'm going to shut it down.
• 1:19:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Listen, please remember having some nuance in your life.
• 1:19:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Try not to overreact to things that come out in the news.
• 1:19:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Try to take a moment, think it through, do a Google search.
• 1:19:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I really think in 2025, we have to learn to go deeper in every single story.
• 1:20:05
  Carmen Lezeth: So I hope everyone kind of takes that away from this live stream today, but also check out all about the joy on all of our live streams on YouTube, especially Facebook, linkedin, giving a shout out to people who keep following us.
• 1:20:19
  Carmen Lezeth: They're really appreciative.
• 1:20:20
  Carmen Lezeth: And, rick, I know you were surprised.
• 1:20:22
  Carmen Lezeth: We get a lot of people asking to be on the show and I don't know if I blind CC'd you, cynthia, but we have another person that wants to come on the show because they saw Dana's interview, so we might you know, we're going to try to have one great interview a month.
• 1:20:37
  Carmen Lezeth: We'll see how that goes.
• 1:20:38
  Carmen Lezeth: So, yeah, everyone, thank you so much.
• 1:20:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Remember, at the end of the day, it really is all about the joy.
• 1:20:43
  Carmen Lezeth: We really appreciate you being here.
• 1:20:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Bye, everyone.
• 1:20:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Bye.
• 1:20:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Thanks for stopping by.
• 1:20:50
  Carmen Lezeth: All About the Joy Be better and stay beautiful.
• 1:20:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Folks have a sweet day.