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REUPLOAD: JonBenét Ramsey · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: All right, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Day and I got a little present for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's time to reopen a case, a very specific case.
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  Speaker 3: In my previous solo investigation of this case, I presented
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  Speaker 3: to you a theory, my thesis, if you will, and
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  Speaker 3: my research regarding a little girl known as Jambonet Ramsey. Today,
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  Speaker 3: I want to revisit this topic, but I also want
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  Speaker 1: That is how I.
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  Speaker 3: Started this podcast, and that is what I'm most fucking
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  Speaker 3: proud of. Yes, it is tremendously exhausting putting the research
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  Speaker 3: together for these types of episodes, but it is even
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  Speaker 3: more tremendously worth it when I see such a positive response.
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  Speaker 3: So today is a thank you for supporting my research
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  Speaker 3: and this show. I will reopen this Christmas case and
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  Speaker 3: bring you the cosmic fire once again as we recap
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  Speaker 3: and discover the dark occult nature of this murder.
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  Speaker 1: So let us begin.
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  Speaker 3: This refresh is not going to be exactly like the
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  Speaker 3: last installment, because we covered a fuck ton of ground
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  Speaker 3: in the first one and there's no need beating a
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  Speaker 3: dead horse. I'm not going to argue about whether or
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  Speaker 3: not Juambinet Ramsey is a real person or not, so
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  Speaker 3: on so forth, because I believe I've done enough pontificating
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  Speaker 3: in the first episode. I do want to recap some
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  Speaker 3: of the basic info, but I also want to bring
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  Speaker 3: to light new information. But here's how we're gonna start it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's take a journey back in time. It's Boulder, Colorado,
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  Speaker 3: December the twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six, Jambonet Ramsey. As
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  Speaker 3: I stated previously, in death, she looked more like the
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  Speaker 3: six year old child she was, more than she ever
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  Speaker 3: had in life. Her lifeless body was found laying on
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  Speaker 3: the basement floor, wrapped in a blanket. A strip of
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  Speaker 3: duct tape covered her mouth. Her right wrist raised above
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  Speaker 3: her head, was loosely bound with a length of cord.
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  Speaker 3: The same type of cord was wrapped around her neck
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  Speaker 3: with a broken paintbrush handle taken from the mother's art
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  Speaker 3: supplies and fashioned into a makeshift garrout. Two investigators her
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  Speaker 3: bindings looked staged. Jean Benet was dressed in a sweatshirt
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  Speaker 3: that covered a long sleeved undershirt. White pajama bottoms covered
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  Speaker 3: her white panties, which an autopsy report later revealed were
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  Speaker 3: stained with blood. Inspection with a black light indicated that
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  Speaker 3: there was semen on both of Jambonnet's thighs, but the
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  Speaker 3: medical examiner would make no mention of this.
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  Speaker 1: In his official report.
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  Speaker 3: To some investigators, it looked as though she had been
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  Speaker 3: redressed after her death. Jean Benet had been sexually abused,
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  Speaker 3: severely beaten about the head, causing a massive skull fracture,
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  Speaker 3: and then strangled to death. Rigor mortis had fully set in,
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  Speaker 3: and police on the scene reported the smell of decomposition.
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  Speaker 3: She had undigested food in her stomach and small intestined
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  Speaker 3: identified as pieces of pineapple. On the palm of her
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  Speaker 3: left hand was drawn a small red heart. Around her
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  Speaker 3: neck was a chain bearing a crucifix. On her wrist
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  Speaker 3: was a bracelet engraved on one side was her name,
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  Speaker 3: John Beney Ramsey, and on the other the perrobable date
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  Speaker 3: of her death, December the twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 3: Now here we go. We're recapping the previous evening before
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  Speaker 3: the body is discovered. John Benet had attended a party
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  Speaker 3: at the home of family friends with her parents, John
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  Speaker 3: and Patsy, and her brother Burke the Ramsey family. Here's
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  Speaker 3: the timeline. Now, returned home from this Christmas party at
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  Speaker 3: the family friends at approximately nine thirty p m, by
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  Speaker 3: which time John Beney had fallen asleep. She was carried
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  Speaker 3: inside and put to bed, allegedly lasting alive around ten PM.
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  Speaker 3: Patsy Ramsey claims that she woke up the next morning
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  Speaker 3: sometime after five am and headed down the back stairs,
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  Speaker 3: which were generally only used by those who were familiar
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  Speaker 3: with the house, where she found this ransom note that
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  Speaker 3: she read over and then entered John Binney's room to
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  Speaker 3: find that she was missing. She places a frantic nine
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  Speaker 3: to one one call at five point fifty two a m.
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  Speaker 3: And it was later realized that the little brother Burke
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  Speaker 3: Ramsey's voice could be heard on the recording of that call,
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  Speaker 3: although John and Patsy steadfastly maintained that Burke was not
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  Speaker 3: yet up from bed when the call was placed. That
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  Speaker 3: is the version of events that Patsy Ramsey has long
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  Speaker 3: held onto by her official account. However, as we discussed
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  Speaker 3: in the first installment of Little Miss Christmas Ritual, it
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  Speaker 3: is steaming horseshit and we all know it's but let's
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  Speaker 3: continue on. Boulder police arrive at the Ramsey home seven
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  Speaker 3: minutes after the call. Patsy's hysterical John is pacing around.
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  Speaker 3: And of course this was the second time in just
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  Speaker 3: three days that a nine to one to one call
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  Speaker 3: had been placed from the Ramsey home. The first was
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  Speaker 3: on the night of December the twenty third, during a
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  Speaker 3: party attended by an estimated one hundred guests to the
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  Speaker 3: Ramsey's home drawn from the elite of Boulder Society. And
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  Speaker 3: of course the guest list for that party has never
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  Speaker 3: been made public, nor has the reason for the first
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  Speaker 3: nine to one one call, But I will let you
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  Speaker 3: use your imagination. So the first officers to arrive at
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  Speaker 3: the Ramsey's home were presented with the ransom note, which
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  Speaker 3: was two in an half handwritten pages of bizarre ass
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  Speaker 3: ramblings that were with hell from the press and the
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  Speaker 3: public for nine months, and happened to be written in
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  Speaker 3: Passey's hand. But we will get to that. The notes
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  Speaker 3: author demanded a ransom of exactly one hundred and eighteen
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars in cash, which happened to be the exact
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  Speaker 3: amount of the Christmas bonus that John had just received. Coincidence,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure. They claimed that they represented a small foreign faction,
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  Speaker 3: and they warned that if their demands were not met,
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  Speaker 3: jam Benet would be decapitated. Ooh, the suspense is killing me.
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  Speaker 3: The Ramseys were also instructed to expect a telephone call
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  Speaker 3: that very morning between eight and ten am, but that call,
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  Speaker 3: of course, never came. Something I did not do last
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  Speaker 3: time was read you the ransom note, which I really
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  Speaker 3: should have done, because it puts it into perspective. Not
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  Speaker 3: only does it match writing samples of Patsy's hand, it's
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  Speaker 3: written in the tone and context of the author not
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  Speaker 3: only being a female.
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  Speaker 1: But also a mother. I picked this clue.
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  Speaker 3: Up from a private investigator who has studied the ransom
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  Speaker 3: note at length, and it is astonishingly accurate in this analysis.
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  Speaker 3: So let me now read you the ransom note and
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  Speaker 3: you can decide for yourself if this is a male
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  Speaker 3: or female, more specifically a mother.
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  Speaker 1: Here goes.
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  Speaker 3: Mister Ramsey. Listen carefully. We are a group of individuals
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  Speaker 3: that represent a small foreign faction. We respect your business,
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  Speaker 3: but not the country that it serves. At this time,
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  Speaker 3: we have your daughter in our possession. She is safe
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  Speaker 3: and unharmed, and if you want to see her in
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  Speaker 3: nineteen nineties U seven, you must follow our instructions to
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  Speaker 3: the letter. You will withdraw one hundred and eighteen thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars from your account. One hundred thousand will be one
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars bills and the remaining eighteen thousand and twenty
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  Speaker 3: dollar bills.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure that you bring.
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  Speaker 3: An adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home,
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  Speaker 3: you will put the money in a brown paper bag.
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  Speaker 3: I will call you between eight and ten am tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting,
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  Speaker 3: so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor
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  Speaker 3: you getting the money early, we might call you early
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  Speaker 3: to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence
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  Speaker 3: an earlier pickup of your daughter. Any deviation of my
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  Speaker 3: instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter.
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  Speaker 3: You will also be denied her remains for a proper burial.
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  Speaker 3: The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly
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  Speaker 3: like you, so I advise you not to provoke them.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking to anyone about your situation such as police, FBI, etc.
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  Speaker 3: Will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch
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  Speaker 3: you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you
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  Speaker 3: alert authorities, she dies. If the money is in any
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  Speaker 3: way marked or tampered with, she dies, you will be
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  Speaker 3: scanned for electronic devices and if any are found she dies.
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  Speaker 3: You can try to deceive us, but be warned, we
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  Speaker 3: are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics. You stand
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  Speaker 3: a ninety nine percent chance of killing your daughter if
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  Speaker 3: you try to outsmart us. Follow our instructions and you
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  Speaker 3: stand a one hundred percent chance of getting her back.
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  Speaker 3: You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well
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  Speaker 3: as the authorities. Don't try to grow a brain, John,
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  Speaker 3: You are not the only fat cat around, so don't
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  Speaker 3: think that killing will be difficult. Don't underestimate us, John,
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  Speaker 3: use that good Southern common sense of yours.
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  Speaker 1: It's up to you.
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  Speaker 3: Now, John Victory SB t C. Let's take a look
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  Speaker 3: back now at this incredibly long what I would compare
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  Speaker 3: to as one of those text messages you get from
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  Speaker 3: a crazy fucking ex girlfriend who is trying to plead.
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  Speaker 1: Her case to you.
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  Speaker 3: I know because I've seen these type of text messages.
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  Speaker 3: They're the ones you get and you scroll through quickly
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  Speaker 3: down to the bottom, and then you show your friends, like,
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  Speaker 3: look what this crazy fucking bitch just sent me.
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  Speaker 1: On my text message.
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  Speaker 3: This reeks of being a female it's way too detailed,
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  Speaker 3: it's very emotional, and no fucking man who is straight
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  Speaker 3: in his orientation would write something like this, especially not
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  Speaker 3: someone representing a small foreign faction. First off, they just
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  Speaker 3: leisurely sat around and wrote this handwritten ransom note in
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  Speaker 3: the living room of the Ramseys home right after they've
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  Speaker 3: abducted the girl.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and so let's take a look.
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  Speaker 3: Mister Ramsey. Listen carefully. That reeks of a mother to me.
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  Speaker 3: Listen carefully giving instructions.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's a child.
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  Speaker 3: You must follow our instructions to the letter. You must
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  Speaker 3: follow our instructions. Okay, another example of a mother talking
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  Speaker 3: to a child. Here's another one that caught me. Make
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  Speaker 3: sure that you bring an adequate size eye attache to
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  Speaker 3: the bank. Make sure you do the dishes when you
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  Speaker 3: get home from work. Make sure you bring an adequate
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  Speaker 3: size attache to the bank. This is a mother writing this,
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  Speaker 3: and who the fuck uses the word attache.
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  Speaker 1: Let's proceed.
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  Speaker 3: When you get home, you will put the money in
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  Speaker 3: a brown paper bag. Who do you know who talks
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  Speaker 3: like this other than someone giving instructions to a kid,
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  Speaker 3: someone who's used to being listened to as an adult
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  Speaker 3: parent type figure. Make sure you bring an adequate size
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  Speaker 3: attache when you get home. You will put the money
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  Speaker 3: in a brown bag and then reassuring at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: as also a parent would do. I will call you
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  Speaker 3: between eight and ten tomorrow to instruct you.
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  Speaker 1: I advise you be rested.
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  Speaker 3: What kind of kidnapper is this? Make sure you take
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  Speaker 3: a vitamin ceed, make sure you get a full eight hours,
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  Speaker 3: make sure you bring an adequate size attache when you
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  Speaker 3: get home. Listen carefully, must follow the instructions. Did Jean
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  Speaker 3: Benet Ramsey get abducted by a fucking third grade school teacher?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, was Jean Benet Ramsey abducted by my sixth
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  Speaker 3: grade lit teacher? Come on, this again is a blaring
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  Speaker 3: red flag that this is not just some idiot who
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  Speaker 3: wanted to elicit money from the family. This is an
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  Speaker 3: inside job. Let's go on in the ransom note the
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  Speaker 3: two gentlemen watching.
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  Speaker 1: Over your daughter. Let's stop right there, the two gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: Watching over your daughter. We're already halfway through this ransom note.
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  Speaker 1: This is page two.
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  Speaker 3: Still all the punctuation and all the eyes are dotted,
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  Speaker 3: and the teeth are crossed, and we're making sure that
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  Speaker 3: I before E, step after see and everything looks good.
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  Speaker 3: The two gentlemen watching over your daughter, okay, that we
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  Speaker 3: just abducted k. They don't particularly like you, so I
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  Speaker 3: advise you not to provoke them. It's beyond belief that
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  Speaker 3: the ramses it's really not actually because we're gonna get
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  Speaker 3: into it. But they've pulled the wool over everyone's eyes.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't even take someone who has extensive training and
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  Speaker 3: background and forensic files and unsolved mysteries to see that
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  Speaker 3: no man wrote this note. No man wrote this note.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't particularly like you. It feels like mean girls. Regina
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  Speaker 3: George abducted Jean Benet.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go on.
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  Speaker 3: If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies.
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  Speaker 3: If we catch you putting your dirty socks under your
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  Speaker 3: bed one more time, your asses grassed. This is a
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  Speaker 3: mom talking. If we catch you.
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  Speaker 1: You better be rested.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, carefully follow instructions. So it goes on to say
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  Speaker 3: at the end, you stand a ninety nine percent chance
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  Speaker 3: of killing your daughter if you try to outsmart us.
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  Speaker 3: Follow our instructions, and you stand a one hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: chance of getting her back. Don't try to grow a brain, John,
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  Speaker 3: You fucking dildo. Don't underestimate us either, John, use that
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  Speaker 3: good old Southern common sense of yours. John. It's up
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  Speaker 3: to you now, Joan. All right, Patsy, you did it,
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  Speaker 3: you former beauty queen. You you pulled off a brilliant performance
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  Speaker 3: of a kidnapper. This isn't a Miss America pageant. You're
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  Speaker 3: trying to convince someone that you are a kidnapper who
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  Speaker 3: just subducted a little six year old beauty queen, and
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  Speaker 3: you're trying to elicit money from a wealthy family and
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  Speaker 3: you're sitting here trying to It's basically like a burn note.
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  Speaker 1: You fucking fat bit you. John.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you dare try to act like you didn't hurt
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  Speaker 3: my feelings. That's why we stole your daughter. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be mean to her, and we don't like you, John.
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  Speaker 3: So listen up, bring a good sized bag to the bank,
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  Speaker 3: load it with the cash, and drop it. When I say.
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  Speaker 1: That's what this sounds like.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why I really should have, But I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why I didn't read this ransom note to
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  Speaker 3: you in the last installment, because.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's a smoking gun. In this case.
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  Speaker 3: Patsy herself wrote this note, and for reasons that have
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  Speaker 3: never been adequately explained, the investigation was compromised from the
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  Speaker 3: very beginning. Officers inexplicably failed to secure the crime scene,
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  Speaker 3: allowing the families, pastor, and a number of friends to
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  Speaker 3: come and go freely from the home. No effort was
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  Speaker 3: made to prevent containment nation of any potential evidence. Detectives
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  Speaker 3: didn't even arrive to the crime scene until eight ten am,
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  Speaker 3: over two hours after the first patrol officers arrived. It
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  Speaker 3: took another twelve hours for the coroner to arrive, and
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  Speaker 3: once he got there, he spent ten minutes looking at
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  Speaker 3: Jean Benet in the crime scene and then loaded her
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  Speaker 3: up and hauled her off. And now, to put things
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  Speaker 3: into perspective here, at around ten am, the detectives allowed
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  Speaker 3: John Ramsey to leave the house, as I had stated
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  Speaker 3: in the previous episode, for over an hour, supposedly running
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  Speaker 3: at errands. Had to pick up some dry cleaning, check
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  Speaker 3: the mail, make sure they got the sharp marks out
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  Speaker 3: of his underpants at the dry cleaners, you name it,
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  Speaker 3: stop by the porn store, drop off a few VHS
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  Speaker 3: rentals to Blockbuster, you name it. He's just got to
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  Speaker 3: run some errands, and.
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  Speaker 1: Why he had.
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  Speaker 3: Such a sense of urgency at a time of family
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  Speaker 3: crisis is so fucking obvious to me. Why also, did
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  Speaker 3: he choose to go alone when he had friends and
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  Speaker 3: family who were there to possibly accompany him, but no,
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  Speaker 3: he fucks off on his own for over well over
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  Speaker 3: an hour and says he's got to run errands while
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  Speaker 3: they're looking for his daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: One of the most grievous and baffling errors, though committed
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  Speaker 3: by the detectives, besides just letting people come and go
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  Speaker 3: freely from the home and then letting John out of
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  Speaker 3: their site for well over an hour, is their failure
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  Speaker 3: to separate the Ramses for questioning. Even though detectives had
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  Speaker 3: Patsy alone for over an hour well John was dropping
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  Speaker 3: off tapes at the fucking Blockbuster, no one apparently thought
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  Speaker 3: to question her. And just as baffling is the fact
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  Speaker 3: that there was no initial search of the house by
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  Speaker 3: either the family or the police. When a detective on
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  Speaker 3: the scene finally suggested around one o'clock in the afternoon
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  Speaker 3: that it might be a good idea to search the house,
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  Speaker 3: it had been nearly eight hours since the family first
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  Speaker 3: discovered John Benay was missing. Seven hours since police arrived
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  Speaker 3: on the scene, and five hours since detectives have arrived,
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  Speaker 3: and yet no one had the thought to search the home.
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  Speaker 3: Are we really supposed to believe that after finding this
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  Speaker 3: ransom note, the family immediately accepted that their beloved little
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  Speaker 3: Christmas princess had been taken from the house and there
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  Speaker 3: was no reason at all to search for her. What
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  Speaker 3: parent would not search their home repeatedly in the desperate
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  Speaker 3: hope that somehow something had been overlooked during an earlier search.
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  Speaker 3: I would be like Sherlock mother fucking homes in that
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  Speaker 3: bitch dustin for fingerprints everything. As previously mentioned in the
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  Speaker 3: first installment, when it finally occurred to police that it
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  Speaker 3: might be a good idea to search the fucking crime scene,
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: they assigned that task to the prime suspect, John Ramsey.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: In joining John was his good friend we met before,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Fleet White, the oil company executive who had hosted the
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: party the Ramses attended the previous evening, and who the
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Ramses placed a call to. Immediately after placing the call
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to nine to one one, No, Biggie, I guess let's
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: not look into Fleet White or that situation at all. Anyways,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Ramsey and White were tasked with searching the crime scene
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: and quickly headed to the basement, where they almost immediately
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: found Jean Benet's body, not only demonstrating that no effort
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: had previously been made to look for John Benet in
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the basement, but the amount of ease in which they
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: found her and the ridiculousness of not having found her
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: prior to this. Let me tell you what I imagine happened. Okay,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: let's let's say I'm Fleet White right now. Hey, Uh,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: let's let's go ahead and search the house. Oh okay, yeah,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: me and John, Yeah, let's go. Oh we're supposed to
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: start searching now. Damn, I legit have a luncheon at three.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Damn. Well, let's let's make this short.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, come on, John, Let's go to the basement. Clippity, cloppity,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: We're walking down the stags. Okay, now, we're looking. We're looking.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: We're lock and we're looking. We're looking. Let's flip this
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: bucket over. Ah, no decapitated body in there. Uh. Let's
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: throw some clothes out of this clothes basket all over
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the floor. Move some socks around. Ooh, nobody in here. Okay,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: now we're gonna look in this corner over here, near
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the open window with the glass busted out and the
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: small child shaped mask underneath the blanket. Holy titty fuck,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: there she is. John Oh, come on White later claimed
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: that he had checked the basement earlier and saw nothing
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: out of the ordinary. His exact words, and you know why,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: because let's just say, the small child body under the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: blanket wasn't obvious. The window they claim the murderer came
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: through had actually been broken for some time, y'all. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: there was fucking cobby webbs all over the broken glass.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that wouldn't be out of the ordinary since
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: the window's been busted since nineteen ninety two. Anyways, John
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Ramsey rushes over, picks up his lifeless daughter and removes
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the tape from her mouth, according to him. Strangely, though,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: the autopsy report later made no mention of tape residue
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: around John Benet's mouth, But John insists he removes duct
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: tape from John Benet's mouth.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, then he cared.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Read her upstairs and laid her on the floor. Patsy
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Ramsey collapses at the vision of her daughter in the state,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: and a detective then moved the corpse and covered it
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: with a blanket. So this all happened within moments, not
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: an hour, not over the course of a few hours.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: In moments, this happened, So within the space of just
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a few minutes, some of the most crucial evidence in
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the case was hopelessly contaminated.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: There was a lady.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Her name is Anne Louise Bardac. She wrote for Vanity Fair.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: She quoted one of the officer's recollections actually of this
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: situation and to John and Patsy's reaction to the discovery
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: of Jean Benat's body, and it says, quote what was
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: interesting was when John brought the body upsid stairs, he
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: never cried, but when he laid her down, he started
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: to moan while peering around to see who was looking
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: end quote. Patsy, he said, quote peered at him through
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: splayed fingers in quote, while making sobbing sounds. The officer
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: described being haunted by the manner in which Patsy kept
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: staring at him. He also noted that he never saw
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: either of the Ramseys attempt to comfort or console each other.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: That is again a smoking gun, smoking gun in this case.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: So the glaring inconsistencies of finding both a ransom note
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: and the body of the purported kidnapping victim, coupled with
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: what was viewed by many as inappropriate behavior by the Ramses,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: seems to indicate that the crime was something other than
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: a botched kidnapping and that's basic crime scene one oh one.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: The preponderance of the evidence did not support the idea
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: that an intruder was to blame. No footprints were observed
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: outside of the home, even though snow covered all of
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the fucking grounds, no signs of a forest entry. The
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: ransom note was most likely originated from within the house.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Within the house, the pages appeared to have been torn
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: from the Ramsey's own legal pad, and a pin was
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: found in a cup in the kitchen. That was most
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: likely the writing instrument. No abduct tour is going to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: go through. And why place the pin back in the cup? Hmmm,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: maybe it's because she likes to keep a clean countertop.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, the abductor thought that it would be polite
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: of him to put the pin back in the cup
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: where they got it. Come the fuck on, all right, So,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: according to some reports, the first page of the legal pad,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: which was still attached contained what appeared to be a
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: false start in writing the ransom note. Didn't like how
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: it was going on the rough drafty, so they had
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: to start over, kind of slap their handwriting up some more,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: make sure it was nice and incognito.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Sure, so. The likely scenario that we are asked to
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: believe is that an intruder entered and occupied home, seeking
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: a victim to abduct, but he then inadvertently killed the
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: intended victim, at which time he decided to hide the
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: body in the basement, assuming that it wouldn't be found.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Then he searched the house for a pen and paper
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: before for composing both an unfinished draft and a final
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: ransom note, which rambled on at some length and was
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: very descriptive capitals and punctuation double checked, and then made
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: sure to sweep up any mut or debris from his snowy, muddy,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: melted fucking shoes, all without waking anyone, and then quickly
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: surveyed the home to see if any previously broken windows
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: were available to sneak out of, leaving no trace of
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: his coming and going what a sleuth y'all. Not only that,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: but to keep it g the room where the body
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: was found was in and out of the way area
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: of the basement. Only a family member would have likely
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: known of its existence. John Ramsey acknowledged that fact in
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: a CNN interview quote, the room that we found her
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: in is kind of a remote part of the basement.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Quote.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: A casual guest would not know where that room is.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Quote from Patsy. It's you know, kind of out of
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: the way end quote. Despite that early acknowledgment by the
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Ramses themselves, the Ramsey's spin team later ferociously denied that
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the room would have been difficult to locate for someone
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: other than a family member.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: But it was.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: This is the result of a botched up, sloppy ass
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: cover up for what really happened. And I think I
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: told you what really happened in the last episode, but
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit you even harder with new evidence to
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: some port my thesis. So you may be wondering to yourself,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: is it just my opinion that the note was in
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Patsy's hand or that Patsy wrote it? No, because actually
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: a dude named Steve Thomas, who was the lead detective
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: on the case, concluded that Patsy wrote the ransom note.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: He contends that of the seventy four suspects whose handwriting
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: samples were reviewed by investigators, Patsy was the only one
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: that could not be excluded as a suspect. He also
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: accused her of deliberately changing some elements of her writing
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: style after the murder in order to disguise her authorship
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: of the note. Now several days after the discovery of
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Jean Benet's body, the Ramsey family flew her remains to Atlanta,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: their former home, for the proper burial. Services were held
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: on New Year's Eve, after which Joan Beney was laid
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: to rest next to her half sister Elizabeth, another of
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: John Ramsey's daughters mentioned in the previous episode, and the
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: following day after the services, John and Patsy made their
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: infamous appearance on CNN. Even while steadfastly claiming to be
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: too grief stricken to talk to the police, Patsy was
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: heavily sedated, took a little Zany bar, and she had
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: been heavily sedated since the day of the murder, along
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: with the Looney Tune little brother Burke. She later claimed
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: that she was unable to remember anything that occurred during
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: the weeks immediately following the discovery of the body. Wonder why,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: But this is when allegations of prior abuse of Joan
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Benet soon began to circulate in the media. Video footage
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: of Jambinet's pageant appearances was aired endlessly, endlessly, and this
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: is a whole part of it, in my opinion, a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: part of the ritual. But the footage offered no proof
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: to the abuse allegations, if you will, but it did
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: clearly demonstrate that the Ramses had marketed their daughter as
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: some kind of hyper sexualized woman child. And as I
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: discussed before, the author Steven Singulair discovered this underground kittie
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: porn circle where girls almost identically to the case of
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: John Benet are featured in these pageant videos quote unquote,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: and these pageant videos are sold on these dark websites,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: et cetera. To you can go and find them if
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: you're in the right circles. And it's in this pageant
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: world world, this underground pageant world, where there are extraordinarily
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: young girls like John Benet, their hairs dyed, their teeth
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: are capped, they have plastic surgery. They tape their little
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: tiny boobies together to make it look like they have cleavage,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: they wear contacts like John Benet, and they enhance their
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: features to make them appear more sexualized for their audience,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the audience who is participating in buying the videos, the.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Photos, etc.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Singulair also discovered that photographing these pre pubescent beauty queens
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: and risk k poses is a routine business undertaken by
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: some of the most highly regarded child photographers in the country.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Jean Benet Ramsay was just one in an estimated two
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand girls who are a part of
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: this billion dollar a year business that caters to the
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: pedophilic tendencies of the adults who gravitate towards child beauty
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: pageants every year. And I'm not talking about I went
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: to go see my niece at a beauty pageant, or
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I was in a beauty pageant when I was a kid,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and nothing weird happened to me. There is an underground
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: network of disgusting ass pedophiles, okay, where there is a
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: dark pageant ring, a katie porn pageant ring. There it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: fetish eyes, it's a fetish okay. But we covered all
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: that last time, so let's go back over the autopsy report.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: So the autopsy report, which was released in a severely
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: redacted form on February fourteenth and then in full on
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: August thirteen, made mention of chronic genital inflammation, foreign matter
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: in the vagina, and epithelial erosion. A detective working the
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: case swore in an Affidavid that the coroner, John Mayer,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: told her that someone had definitely had sexual contact with
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Joan Benet. Doctor Robert Kirshner of the University of Chicago's
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: pathology department noted that Joan Benet's vaginal opening was twice
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: what it is for a normal girl her age. He
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: also stated that the quote genital injuries indicate penetration, but
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: probably not by a penis, and our evidence of molestation
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: that night as well as previous molestation end quote. Doctor
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Cyril Weck, one of the most respected forensic pathologists in
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: the country, told an interviewer quote, this to me is
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: evidence of sexual abuse. I think any forensic gynecologist and
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: forensic pathodists would agree with that. If she had been
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: taken to a hospital emergency room and the doctors had
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: seen the genital evidence, her father would have been arrested. Well,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: that's all I need to know. But let's continue. Then.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Of course, there was the pediatrician who had numerous opportunities
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: to observe that evidence. As was widely reported, John Manet
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: had been taken to this pediatrician no fewer than twenty
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: seven times in the previous three to four years. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: mentioned this before, but it's worth repeating. The doctor claimed,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: rather disingenuinely, that that was a normal rate of visitation
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: for a childhood age. He also claimed that he had
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: never seen during any of those visits any evidence of abuse.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: But it's contradicted by the forensic evidence. And I will
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: take forensic evidence over some guy's opinion any.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Day of the week.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: And the forensic evidence indicates chronic abuse. So I wonder
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: how much he was paid to cover up the abuse
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: for all those years. Speculation, but penny for thought. Now
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: He's not the only questionable medical professional in this case.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: A place called cell Mark Diagnostics in Germantown, Maryland, which
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: is a CIA linked forensic lab that was also famous
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: during the OJ Simpson trial, by the way, was unable
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: to return any conclusive findings from any of the biological
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: materials it received on the case. Imagine that, But you
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: know what else is odd? Since we're talking about the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: OJ Simpson trial, a number of other OJ players surfaced
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: in this Jambiney Ramsey case as well. Hmm. I mean
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: from the beginning when a gag order was placed on
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: the officers working the case, there have been concerted efforts
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: made to control the flow of information that the public
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: has received about the murder of John Beney Ramsey. And
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: largely responsible for shaping the public perception of the case
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: has been the law firm, and they were retained almost
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: immediately by the Ramseys. And it was Hadden Morgan, Mueller,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: George Mackie and Foreman. And the tentacles of hal Hadden's firm,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: which was had in Morgan, Muller, George Mackie and Foreman,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: seemed to reach into every nook and cranny of the
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Ramsey case. Let's start with this. Alex Hunter, the man
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: primarily responsible for prosecuting the John Bine Ramsey murder case,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: had been Boulder's district attorney since nineteen seventy two, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: during his tenure he developed a reputation for extremely lenient
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: enforcement of drug laws, making the city a particularly friendly
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: place for narcotic traffickers. Since nineteen sixty nine, Hunter had
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: been a limited partner in a business enterprise with a
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: lawyer named William Gray, who just happened to be John
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Ramsey's civil attorney. So the man primarily responsible for prosecuting
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: the John Benet Ramsey case was in a limited partner
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: business enterprise with the man who represented Jean Ramse. That's
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: not crooked at all, but let's continue. This powerful firm
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: had deep connections to the democratic power structure that controls
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: state politics in Colorado. Hal Hadden was the manager of
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Gary Hart's successful US Senate campaigns, as well as his
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: unsuccessful presidential bid. Hadden also has close ties to District
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Attorney Alex Hunter and former governors Roy Romer and Richard Lamb.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: A Los Angeles Times report from August two thousand and
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: three describes his firm as having quote a long history
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: of handling high profile cases and getting charges either dismissed
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: outright or dramatically reduced in In cases where clients have
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: been found guilty, they have often been able to get
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: sentences drastically cut in quote now. The Times cites as
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: an example the case of Rockwell International Corporations Rocky Flats
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: nuclear weapons plant, which was rated by federal agents who
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: discovered quote widespread and egrageous environmental contamination. Radioactive waste was
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: being illegally dumped into rivers fields and released into the
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: atmosphere in quote.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Despite the fact.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: That the evidence against the company was overwhelming, no company
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: officials were ever charged in the case, which was settled
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: with Rockwell paying a nominal fine. In nineteen ninety, Hadn't
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: represented none other than journalist Hunter S. Thompson, who was
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: facing sexual assault charges. The charges against Thompson were you
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: guessed it dropped curiously though? Did you know that Hunter S.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Thompson has been accused by witnesses in the Franklin scandal
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: of being a producer of child snuff films? Yeah, that's right.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Remember the episode we covered on Johnny Gosh and the
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Franklin cover up the Franklin case. Paul Banassi member, Yeah,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: it's all linked, motherfucker, and I'm gonna show you how.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: But let me not put the cart before the horse.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Let's just say we're gonna circle back to this. So, dude,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Patsy Ramsey was represented by these fucking Hadden partners, namely
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Patrick Furman and Patrick Burke. Burke was perhaps best known
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: for having one acquittal for the white supremacist accused of
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: killing Denver radio personality Alan Berg. John Ramsey was represented
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: by partners Brian Morgan and Lee Foreman. Burke. Ramsey was
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: represented by yet another member of the Hadden team. So
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: the Bolder police department, led by Chief Tom Coby, took
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: the unusual step of being represented by who a team
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: of private practice attorneys? And who are these attorneys?
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: One of the three, Robert Miller, had recently teamed with
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Hadden on a civil suit. The other of the trio,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Daniel Hoffman, had previously been defended in a malpractice suit
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: by Hadden part Lee Foreman. Who is representing John Ramsey?
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: So they are all represented by members of or members
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: connected to this Hatten group, keeping it in the family,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: you see. So, in addition to the legal firepower, the
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Ramseys also hired a professional fucking spokesman, none other than
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Washington spinmeister Patrick Corton, who had served in the Reagan
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: administration as the consultant for the Office of Personal Management
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: and as the chief spokesman for the outrageously corrupt ed
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: MEAs Run Justice Department. Also on Corton's resume were stints
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: serving as mouthpieces for Iran contract conspirator Oliver North and
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: for the pharmaceutical research murderers excuse me, Manufacturers of America.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Another addition to the Ramsey spin team was premier FBI
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: profiler John Douglas. One of his former colleagues, Greg McCrary,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: was also approached to join the team, but he declined
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: the offer after offering the opinion that the murder looked
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: to him like a quote, staged domestic homicide end quote.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: So think about that.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: They hire. FBI profiler John Douglas tried to recruit Greg McCrary,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: who was one of his colleagues, but Greg took a
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: look at the John Binna Ramsey case and was like,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I'm good on that looks like a stage domestic homicide.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, I am all okay and deny to
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: join the Ramsey's team. All so on the Ramsey team
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: were two private investigation firms who reportedly interviewed every witness
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: approached by Boulder police, and rounding out the team was
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: a retired investigator named lou Smitt, whose claim to fame
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: was having solved the murder of Karen Grammer, the sister
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: of actor and accused pedophile Kelsey Grammar. But what's interesting
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: about this Smit guy is that Smit was brought out
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: of retirement by a district attorney hunter, ostensibly to assist
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: in gathering evidence against the Ramseys. Strangely enough, though, he
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: resigned a year and a half later and went on
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: to work for the Ramsees. Come to fuck home. He
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: was brought out of retirement by district crooked ass dick
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: attorney hunter to gather evidence against the Ramseys, but then
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: resigned a year and a half later and went to
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: work for them. What the fuck? When he switched sides,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: he brought with him a full accounting of all of
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: the state's evidence in the case. He brought it to
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: the Ramsey's doorstep, which the Ramseys needed access to all along.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: So when he switched sides, not only did he gather
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: up all this evidence from the state, he took it
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: to that Ramsey so they knew what they had on him.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Come the fuck on, was she a real person? I
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: don't know. They seem to have went to a lot
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: of fucking trouble to make this case real, a lot
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: of money, a lot of corruption, a lot of dirty
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: deeds here for a fucking CGI photograph. But anyways, I'm
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: not getting into that. Okay, that's not all folks. Boulder
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Police loudly complained that Attorney Hunter, who supposed to hired
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Lou to dig up dirt on the Ramseys. Yeah right,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: has actually repeatedly shared information with the Ramseys, even going
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: as far to supply the couple before they're being questioned
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: by police with copies of the police reports and of
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: their initial statements. Therefore, John and Patsy were able to
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: ensure that their stories remained consistent with both the known
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: facts and with their prior alibis. So a lot of
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: people talk about how consistent they remained. Over the years.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: The fuck bags memorized the police reports that were given
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: to them by the man responsible for prosecuting them, District
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Attorney Hunter. Now here's the silver lining to their credit.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: It appears that at least some of the officers on
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: the Bolder police force, which had a healthy district trust
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: of District Attorney Hunter and his sidekick loose smitty Boy,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: they actually attempted to honestly investigate this case. Their efforts
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: were impeded, however, by not only the District Attorney's office,
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: but by the Denver Police Department and the FBI, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: the FBI local officials, the ones who weren't in on
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: this in any way and were just trying to be
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: good police officers and actually work this case. They resisted
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: unsuccessfully the involvement of the District Attorney's office and the FBI.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: But there's not really a lot you can do. If
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be a part of it, They're gonna be
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: a part of it. So in April nineteen ninety seven,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Bowler Police abruptly stopped sharing information with District Attorney Hunter's office.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Shortly after that, the computer containing the Ramsey case files
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: was hacked into by persons unknown, and that same month,
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: John and Patsy Ramsey submitted to their first formal police interviews.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Enough said, right, And actually, on the very same day
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: that the computers were hacked, a man named James Michael Thomas,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: who worked for a private company that specialized in transporting corpses,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: stole two pages from the Morgue book at the Boulder
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Community Hospital. Those two pages had recorded the arrival of
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: John Binney's body four months earlier, on May twenty first,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Thompson was charged.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: With the theft of the pages.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: He was also charged with abuse of corpse. Those charges
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: came from his macob habit of grotesquely posing the corpses
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: in his charge. Sick fucker. And on June eighteenth, the
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: very same James Michael Thompson attempted to burn down the
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Ramsey Home. But you know what's interesting about him trying
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: to burn the Ramsey Home down is that Patsy had
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: reportedly expressed a desire that the house should be destroyed
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: along with all the evidence right and had vowed that
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: she would never return to the home where John Benet
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: was killed. Officials predictably announced that Thompson's actions had no
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: connection to the murder of John Beney. But maybe mister
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Thompson was given a few dollar bills to make all
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: the evidence disappear, including the log from the morgue. Interesting,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: but you know, June also marked the beginning of the
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: crumbling of the local political structure in Boulder, Colorado. City
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: manager Tim Honey was the first casualty. Before long, a
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: third of the city's council members had left office. The
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: mayor had decided to move on the head of the
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Chamber of Commerce had left office, and Police Chief Tom
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Cooby and police Commander John Eller had both opted to
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: step down.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: In the book on This Case by Steven Singulair, this
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: is what he says, quote, numerous powerful people had been
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: in the Ramsey's home and had been exposed to John Beney.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Many of those powerful people were in the Ramsey home
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: just two days before Jean Benet's death, on the night
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: of that first nine to one one call. It is
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: very unlikely that any of those people will ever be
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: named from the guest list, but it is quite possible
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: that some of them were these public officials who opted
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: to step away from the limelight right after.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: The tragedy, and they.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: All were corrupt as fuck, working with the District Attorney's
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: office to get these two fuck bags off. And what
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: really happened to John Benay on that fateful night in
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, And why did the case become such
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: a cause for conspiracy after all? Even in the late nineties,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: the killing of a child in this country was certainly
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: not an uncommon occurrence, nor was it normally an event
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: deemed worthy of national media attention. A newspaper called Village
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Voice even reported in nineteen ninety seven that the United
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: States has, per capita, the highest rate of child homicide
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: in the world. None of the world's people slaughter their
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: children more frequently or more cavalierly than do Americans, and
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I fucking agree with that statement. So what then, do
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: people make of the John bin A Ramsey case. The family,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: of course, would like you to believe it was nothing
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: more than a badly botched kidnapping plot, but like me,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: most of you don't buy that brand of bologney. The
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: kidnapping scenario was most likely conceived after the fact to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: cover up the intentional death of the child, or maybe accidental,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: but the plan probably called for the body to be
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: disposed of, and the disappearance blamed on an unknown abductor.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: But for whatever reason, though, the body couldn't be disposed of.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: When it became apparent that a search would quickly yield
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: John Benet's remains, John Ramsey made sure that he was
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: the one who made this discovery, thereby compromising the crime
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: scene and nullifying any forensic evidence linking him to the body. Clever.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: None of that, of course, answers the question of why
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: John Benet was killed. I do think he was getting
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: tips by the police officers that were corrupt and compromised
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: on how to nullify and contaminate the crime scene for
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: forensic evidence. I believe that one hundred percent. I think
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: they told him exactly what he needed to do, which
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: is why took them so long to say, let's start
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: looking for the body. They were talking about what you
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: needed to do, what was gonna happen, who was gonna
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: represent him, and how it was gonna go down anyways,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: And I would like to recap my previous deduction on
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: what I believe to have happened, and I'm gonna cut
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: the shit here and get straight up honest with you.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: John Benet was killed because of her involvement in a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: child pornography and prostitution ring that either one or both
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: of the parents I don't give a fuck were involved in. Essentially,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: they were acting as pimps and selling John Bennet to
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: the ring, and the truth likely is that both of
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: the Ramseys were involved in pimping their daughter out to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: other pedophiles. The massive cover up that has shrouded the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: investigation from day one is indicative of the type of
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: systematic corruption that leads to these type of cases. Being
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: routinely covered up. Such a far reaching effort certainly reeks
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: of government level corruption. Rumors of child pornography have surrounded
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: the case from the earliest days of the investigation. Police
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: records indicate that warrants were sought to search the Ramsey
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: home for pornographic materials, probably by the guys who weren't
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: in on it, and the San Jose Mercury News reported
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: that police investigators quote had a strong initial suspicion that
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: someone in the family had an interest in child pornography.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Three days after the girl's bludge and body was discovered
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: in the basement of her family's upscale home Boulder, Colorado,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: police sees computers, computer discs, CD ROMs, and videos, also
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: still photography equipment. According to the search warrants end quote,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: at least one hundred fifty videotapes were seized from the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Ramsey home. It was also alleged that John Ramsey had
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: been seen numerous times frequenting a CD Denver pornoshop. And no,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that everybody who visits ACD Denver porno
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: shop is guilty of child pornography. But when you have
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: a dead child who has a vaginal opening twice the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: size of a girl her age that shows chronic abuse.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Along with these pageantry videos, I'd say we got a
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: connection now. In the tabloid press, it was reported that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: the computers at Access Graphics were loaded loaded with child pornography.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: And it is interesting to note that after the murder,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Access Graphics added guards and greatly increased security at its headquarters.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And remember I told you that a California woman presented
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: to Bolder police through her therapist information that she claimed
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: to have had about the John Benet Ramsey case. The
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: therapist was Mary ben Kowski, and she spoke of a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: pedophile ring operating in the Boulder area. She identified her
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: client of ten years as a past victim of the ring,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: which she said had direct links to the Ramsey family.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: There were probably the fucking kingpins of this pedophile ring.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: She also said that her client had provided police with
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: the names of several people who had witnessed the murder
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: of John Benay. Bin Kowski also claimed that the witness
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: had provided evidence of the ongoing abuse use of other children,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: and the unidentified witness was interviewed by agents of the FBI.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Shortly after that, she went into hiding afraid for her life,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: so instead of taking this information and evidence and investigating it,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: that threatened her fucking life. The Bolder Sheriff's office portrayed
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: the woman as a crazed luney bin, claiming that she
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: had a history of making false reports. The woman, however,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: maintained that while she had indeed made previous reports, they
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: were not false reports, but rather uninvestigated reports. There is
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: no indication that the leads she supplied on the Ramsey
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: case were ever investigated as well as her previous reports.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: So how can they say that she's made fat reports
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: when none of the evidence that she has supplied was
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: ever investigated.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: So could such a ring have existed.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: In Bolder, and if so, could that have provided the
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: hidden subtext of the John Benet Ramsey murder. Conclusive evidence
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: is hard to come by, but a few tantalizing bits
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: and pieces have surfaced. I have previously mentioned Randy Simmons,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: who was considered to be the best, the most expensive
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: child photographer in the Bolder area. But more than a
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: few Pageant mothers reported that Simmons had approached them about
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: shooting nudes of their daughters. They declined the offer, okay,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: but how many pageant mothers consented to these offers. In
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: June nineteen ninety six, just months before John Benet's death,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Simmons took what were described as Kavi garrel shots of
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: the beauty Queen, who on several occasions had been photographed
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: with Daphney White, her best friend and the daughter of
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Fleet White. I mentioned this before, but just wanted to
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: remind you of that. And just after Joan Benet's death,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Simmons abruptly left his wife, left his daughter, left Denver,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: and moved to a remote area of eastern Colorado.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: No one ever.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Seemed to know why he had done this. He was
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: said to be extremely distraught over the murder my ass.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: He reportedly placed several frantic calls to friends during which
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: he expressed a profound fear for his life after the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: death of after the murder, he has a profound fear
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: for his life. He also wrote an article for Stage Lines,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: which was a pageant newsletter, in which he claimed that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: he was being pursued by these paramilitary types. He also
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: expressed concern to the newsletters publisher about the possibility of
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: someone releasing inappropriate photos of Jambinet. Well, how the fuck
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: did you get those, Randy and just recapping the wonderland
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: raids that swept through a number of American cities. One
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Richard Bruce Thomas was arrested. He was a computer consultant
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: living in Fort Collins, Colorado, about an hour's drive from
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: the Ramsey home. Thomas was found shot to death in
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: his home on September fifth, nineteen ninety eight. His death
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: was ruled, of course, a suicide. So Richard Bruce de
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Bruce Thomas was suicided. Now that's very interesting. A man
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: named James Parton was arrested on charges of distributing child
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: pornography on the Internet from his Columbus, Ohio home, which
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: was also found to contain a photograph of John Benet Ramsey.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Parton was also the prime suspect in a nineteen eighty
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: three disappearance of a fourteen year old girl from Idaho Springs, Colorado.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: And again, this dude, Stephen Singulair, who discovered the underground
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: kitty porn pageant ring, took some of these scraps of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: evidence that he had collected and presented them to none
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: other than District Attorney Alex Hunter from the Ramsey investigation.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: And then he took him to Detective Sergeant Tom Wickman
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: of the Boulder Police Department, and then he took them
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: to Ellis Armistead, one of the Ramsey's private investigators. All
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: three took his information, offered nothing in return, and all
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: three chose not to investigate the leads that he had provided. Fuckers,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you this is so involved and convoluted for
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: something that would have just been a CGI phote. Oh
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: like this, There's no way that this didn't actually happen.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: It's a sloppy cover up of a grotesque murder of
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: a child, and what could prove to be a key
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: piece of evidence in the case has been largely ignored
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: by the media and by various theories of the crime.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: The undigested food in John ben stomach and small intestine,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: which again indicates that John Beney had eaten fairly close
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: to the proximity of her death. According to the Ramseys
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: version of events, John Benet had eaten earlier in the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: evening at the Whites party, but she did not eat
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: at home before she was put in bed. Forensic evidence
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: says no er wrong. The existence of the largely undigested
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: food matter has therefore never been explained. In fact, it
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: has been almost entirely ignored by most conspiracy theorists until
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: now right, although some have tried to explain it away
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: with the theory that John Beney would be fed before
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: killing her by her abductor, which is a fucking stupid
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: ass theory because there was no abductor. But a more
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: reasonable explanation for the undigested food is that John Benet
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: was killed shortly after she was known to have last eaten.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: She was, to be more specific, killed before the Ramsey
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: family returned home from the party they had been attending.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Such a scenario would help to explain some of the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: other facts and persistent rumors that have surrounded the case
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: For example, it.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Was mentioned previously that John Benet's body, despite being in
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: the cold confines of the basement of the Ramsey home,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: had decomposed to the point of emitting a noticeable odor.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: It is unlikely that decomposition would have advanced to that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: stage had John Beney been killed between ten pm when
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: she was allegedly put to bed in five am, when
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: her disappearance was alleged discovered. It does not match the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: forensic evidence. Some investigators believe that John Benay's clothing was
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: changed after her death. The Ramses have acknowledged that she
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: was in fact changed before she was put to bed
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: after the family had returned home from the party. If
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: she was already dead at the time, then she was
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: indeed redressed after the murder. It is interesting as well
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: that in the Ramsey's own telling of the story, they
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: accounted for the limp figure of John Bennet to be
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: carried from the car into the house upon the family's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: return home in case any witness noticed them bringing her
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: body in. Some investigators also believed that some elements of
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: the crime scene, particularly the ligatures, were staged. That is
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: also consistent with the child having been killed somewhere else
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: and then deposited in the basement. It is possible that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: the ligatures were added after the fact, when it became
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: apparent it was not going to be able to dispose
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: of the body, as we discussed earlier. It is also
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: possible that the ligatures were an artifact of the party
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: necessarily loosened when the body was redressed and then retied.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: The claim by the patient of the psychiatrists that we
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: talked about earlier that provided all this info that was
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: never investigated. They said she was making false reports. So
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: she claimed that there were numerous witnesses to the murder,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: which is also consistent with John Benet being killed at
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: the party that they were tending White's house. One of
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: those witnesses, as we had mentioned in the previous episode,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: would have had to have been Burke, the little brother,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: who some suspect witnessed or was even involved to some
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: degree in the killing of John to day, that would
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: explain the Ramsey family's efforts to shield the looney tune
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: from the media and from inquisitive police. Have y'all seen
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: the Doctor Phil interview. He's sitting there laughing and smiling.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: That's how they program your mind in these cults. In
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: this religion, you torment and murdered your own sister when
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: you were eight years old. Bro, sitting there laughing and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: smiling like, yeah.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: My sister's taking a dirt nowt BAA what.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: Come on. As a final note on the Ramsey case,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: John and Patsy have on occasion publicized the fact that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: a stun gun was possibly used to incapacitate John Binney
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: prior to her death. This is supposed to solidify the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: intruder theory, since the Ramseys claimed that they never have
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: ever owned a stun gun. However, as we know, one
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: of the videotape sees from their home included instructions on
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: how to use, of all things, a stun gun, and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: she did appear to have stun gun marks all over
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: her body in her death, as well as childhood photographs
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: of her continuing chronic torture and abuse, and just a reminder.
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  Speaker 3: John Ramsey is the son of a World War Two
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: pilot who later served as the director of the Michigan
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  Speaker 3: Aeronautics Commission, where he was known as Czar Ramsey. John
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: himself was a naval officer and pilot in the Philippines
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: in the late nineteen sixties Laurel Canyon Anyone, and he
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: later formed a company that he named Access Graphic, and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: that company later became a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin, one
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: of the nation's largest military intelligence contractors. After the buyout,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: John served as the company's president and CEO. His vice
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: president was Donald Paul Passy's father, Kay and Donald Paul
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: was a former Union carbide engineer, and Patsy, of course,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: was a former beauty queen herself her mom had complete
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: control of her. They described her as a little automaton.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: The family in which Patsy came from, the paw family
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: was described as being insular, like a closed society unto itself.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: People hinted around that Patsy couldn't make her mind up
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: for herself, that she had no original thoughts of her own.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: She was completely controlled by her mother her entire life,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: and then that dominion was passed over to John who
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: exerted considerable influence over her as well. And I would
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: place a considerable wager on the odds that Patsy herself
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: was a childhood victim of this underground pageant circuit as well.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Let's be real.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: And also what I find interesting is that in this
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: research I'm presenting to you now, the work of David
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: McGowan and Steven Singulair were crucial in tying all the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: pieces together, and how similar the conclusions are in their
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: research is the most pinnacled part of this whole thing.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: SINGULARI and McGowan both touched on Looney Tune Burke and
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: why the family acted so oddly when it came to him,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: and their conclusion is that it's because Burt saw his
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: sister getting killed by a mob of petos at an
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: eyes wide chet party, and they didn't want him to
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: say anything, or maybe he even participated. And I want
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: to quickly address the theory that Looney Tune Burke was
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: the one who had a freak accident and killed John Beney.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: It would not account for the evidence found during the autopsy.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: And for those of you who were brainwashed by a
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: certain documentary claiming it had to have been Looney Tune Burke,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: riddle me this. If it was a freak accident, why
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: does John Benet have fresh stun gun marks on her body?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Sounds a little premeditated to me. And what nine year
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: old knows their way around a stun gun. And that's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: not to mention the chronic genital inflammation and the four
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: and matter found in the vagina and the epithelial erosion
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: of the vagina. You tell me how that makes sense
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: for the little brother having a freak accident and knocking
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: her over the head with a Tonka truck. What about
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: the detective working the case that swore in an affida
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: fit that the coroner, John Mayer told her that someone
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: had definitely had sexual contact with the child and doctor
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: Robert Kirshner of the University of Chicago's pathology department, noticing
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: that John Bennet's vaginal opening was twice what it was
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: for a normal girl her age, and seeing evidence of
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: molestation that night as well as previous molestation. What's that,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Burke two? Is he the Devil incarnate? Is he Damien
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: raping his sister?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: And shit?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Stun gun in her?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: And shit?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. The dude couldn't even get through
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: a doctor Phil interview. Come on to be completely honest
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: with everyone. After researching the disappearance of Johnny Gosh and
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: the Franklin case involving Paul Banassi and all his personalities
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: and shit, listening to Paul Banassi's testimony and trying to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: wrap my mind around the atrocities that have occurred to
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: innocent children that have been kidnapped and never seen again.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: I almost wonder if the Ramses weren't trying to pull
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: off a stage Johnny Gosh type disappearance. There is a
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: speculation that Johnny Gosh's father was receiving strange phone calls
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: in the days leading up to his disappearance, and his
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: father always without exception went with him on his new
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: US paper route apart from one day, one day the
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: day he was abducted. And then Paul Pinassi claims to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: have been in the car present on the day of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: Johnny gosh abduction and they use Johnny as one of
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: these slave kids to use in a blackmail video. Could
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: this be a less successful version of Johnny Gosh? The
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: Eyes Wide Shut party.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Is in full swing.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Several high ranking individuals from the elite of Boulder Society
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: are in attendance.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: Without question.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: Someone is holding a camera, perhaps mister Randy Simmons, who
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: was considered to be the best in the most expensive
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: child photograph in the Boulder area. Maybe even Sam who
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: may have attended this Eyes Wide Shut party. While we
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: can be pretty damn certain based on the behavior from
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: the District Attorney Alex Hunter, that his ass was yuletiding
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: it the fuck up in there, but who else. One
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: man who is known to have attended is Bill McReynolds,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: who played Santa Claus for the event recap so on
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: December twenty sixth, nineteen seventy four, exactly twenty two years
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: before the murder of John Bennet. Bill Mcreynolds's own daughter
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: had been abducted along with a friend from the McReynolds
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: home not far from Boulder. The girl was released unharmed
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: after being forced to witness an assault on her friend,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: but there were no arrests made and no charges wherever filed.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: And not long after that, Bill's wife, Janet, wrote a
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: screenplay that was entitled Hey Rube that concerns the abduction, torture,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: and murder of a young girl whose battered body is
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: discovered lying on a cold basement floor. The Ramses considered
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: McReynolds one of their prime suspects, along with one hundred
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: and sixty plus other people whose names appeared on their
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: self serving suspect list.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: But my question to you.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: Is that if the Ramseyes were so close to Bill McReynolds,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: close enough for him to not only be an invided
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: but to dress up as Santa throwing back a couple
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: eggnog shooters with the motherfucker, what are the odds that
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: this little screwed up screenplay, Hey Ruby Slippers, excuse me,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: Hey Rube, may have inspired the cover up after they
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: needed to stage the crime scene. Think about it. Maybe
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: Bill gave them a little inspiration knowingly or unknowingly. What's
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: more interesting, considering I brought up Johnny Gosh, is that
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier a little somebody named Hunter S. Thompson
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: who has been accused by witnesses in the Franklin case
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: of being a producer of child snuff films, which was
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: quickly swept under the rug. But how would you like
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: to know? He too wrote a column entitled Hey Rube,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: and these columns later became a book entitled Hey Rube,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: blood Sport the Bush Doctrine in the Downward Spiral of Dumbness. Now,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: this column that he wrote that turned into a book
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: consisted of eighty three articles split into three parts. The
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: articles were first published on ESPN dot COM's website and
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: it contains articles from November twentieth, two thousand to October thirteenth,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: two thousand and three. This was his final book. This
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: was the final book Thompson published before his death in
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: February two thousand and five. Some articles are focused on
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: subjects such as fear and loathing in America and love
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: blooms in the Rockies, and that one actually deals with
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: the nine to eleven attacks and then Thompson's marriage and
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: included in Hey rub is a copy of a personal
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: report written about Thompson during his time in the United
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: States Air Force at the Eglin Air Force Base in Florida,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: and mentioned in this book. Also is Thompson's personal political
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: statements and a quote unquote honor roll which he includes
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: names of figures such as Johnny Depp, Fidel Castro, and
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Al Gore. But let's dive a little deeper now that
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: we're Tangentine, We're gonna connect everything.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: The father of gonzo journalism, Hunter S. Thompson was a nasty,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: dark individual and as I hope to show, was very
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: much tied up in the inversion culture wars for the
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Crime Syndicate. He seemed to know things that he wished
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: to reveal, especially as he got older. So he just
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: seemed to know things he shouldn't know. And according to
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: the false official narrative, Thompson died from a self inflicted
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: gunshot wound to the head at his self described quote
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: fortified compound in quote known as Owl Farm in Woody Creek, Colorado,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: at five forty two pm on February twenty, two, thousand
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: and five. Are you getting the chills yet? Well, if
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: you haven't, just hang on. Thompson's son Wan, daughter in
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: law Jennifer Winkle Thompson, and grandson Will Thompson were visiting
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: for the weekend at the time of his sea Withisside.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: Will and Jennifer were in the adjacent room when they
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: heard the gunshot. The last word he was typing on
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: his computer was counselor, indicating that he was in the
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: middle of a sentence. Here's a quote from Hunter S.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Thompson.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: The truth, when you finally chase it down, is almost
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: always far worse than your darkest visions and fears end quote.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: So could it have been a friendly fire on their part?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: You know the weird pedos and shit this underground crime syndicate.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: It's a friendly fire because Hunter S. Thompson was supposed
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: to be part of the posse, Right, why did he
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: get suicided? Well, it's because no one, and I mean
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: no one, Marilyn Monroe or not is safe in this game.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: Paul William Roberts, a colonist at the Toronto Globe and Mail, stated,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: quote Hunter telephoned me on February nineteenth, the night before
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: understand what he said, particularly over the phone. He mumbled, Yet,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: when there was something he really wanted you to understand,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: you did. He'd been working on a story about the
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: felt was hard evidence showing that the towers had been
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: but by explosive charges set off in their foundations. He
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: thought someone was out to stop him from publishing it.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: They're gonna make it look like a suicide, he said,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: I know how these bastards think.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: End quote.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: Hunter also stated, quote if I'd written all the truth
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: I knew for the past ten years, about six hundred people,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: including me, would be rotting in prison cells from Rio
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: to Seattle today. A salute truth is a very rare
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: and dangerous commodity in the context of a professional journalist.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: In quote, despite his life of depravity, it was I
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: guess nine to eleven that was the bridge too far
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: for Thompson. He said President Bush had taken the country
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: in two years from a prosperous nation at peace to
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: a broken nation at war, And he wrote, you could
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: not take this case accusing bin Laden of nine to
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: eleven to court and win end quote. But besides nine
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: to eleven, he was working on the White House Reporter
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: Jeff Gannon scandal, which was tied to the Franklin Callboy
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Peto ring, which he himself was directly involved in. Paul Binnasi,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: as I was mentioning earlier, testified in court proceedings that
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: he helped kidnap Johnny Gosh in nineteen eighty two, in
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: that in July of nineteen eighty four, Paul Bannasi was
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: forced to participate in an orgy at Bohemian Grove where
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: a young boy was brutally Let me okay, let's back up.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Trigger warning If extremely explicit content related to children unsettles you.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Although you are listening to the John Benny Rams the episode,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: please skip five seconds ahead in the episode resuming. Paul
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: Bannasi testified in court proceedings that he helped kidnap Johnny
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: Gosh in nineteen eighty two, in that in nineteen eighty
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: four July, he was forced to participate in an orgy
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: at Bohemian Grove where a young boy was brutally raped,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: brutally sodomized repeatedly in the murdered but Nasi said that
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: the killing was filmed by you guessed it, Hunter S. Thompson,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: who had joined their private jet flight to the West
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: Coast in Las Vegas, and a dude named Rusty Nelson
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: was inside the Franklin operation and believes Thompson was a
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: loose end that had to be dealt with now. Thompson
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: wrote on page three under the heading the new dumb
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: in the book, Hey Rube, this is what he says. Quote.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: The autumn months are never a calm time in America.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: There is always a rash of kidnappings and abductions of
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: school children. In the football months, pre teens of both
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: gangs of organized perverse who traditionally give them as Christmas
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: gifts to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: End quote. Let me read that again, assholes.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Quote. The autumn months are never a calm time in America.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: There is always a rash of kidnappings and abductions of
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: school children. In the football months, preteens of both sexes
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: In quote, you may not think that this could reach you,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: that this is so large, that something on this scale
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: could reach you in your neighborhood. But I promise you
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: it's been going on for a long time. In these
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: disappearance of children who were never seen again, taken in
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: the blink of an eye, and who did it? I'm
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: telling you this is this is part of the cult.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: So in John Decamp's reporting of events in the Franklin
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: cover Up, he writes on pages three hundred and twenty
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: six and three hundred and twenty eight of his book,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: Paul Banassi, while at Bohemian Grove, claims that he and
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: another boy were forced to perform sex acts with and
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: to consume parts of a child whom they had watched
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: being murdered by men in hooded robes. The body was
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: to be disposed of by the men with the hoods
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: end quote. I'm not going to read that again because
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: it's really sickening. But DeCamp point on to say that
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: Banassi also claimed that a quote snuff film was made
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: of these events. The shocker is that the man at
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: the party who had picked him up in Las Vegas,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: and who had filmed the events was identified by Banasi
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: as Hunter Thompson. But it doesn't just stop with Paul
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: Banassi saying this stuff about Hunter Thompson. Thompson's secretary Nicole
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: Brown wrote that Thompson kicked her out of the house
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: for refusing to watch a so called snuff film. She said,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: for weeks he played a tape recording of a jack
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: rabbit screaming in a trap. He fetishized, being abusive to
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: pets and animals, and liked to drive at high speeds,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: narrowly averting cattle on rural roads near his residence. And
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: that comes from Nicole Brown, previous secretary of Hunter Thompson.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: What a psycho piece of fucking shit bag Now. Photographer
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: Russell Nelson claimed that Thompson offered him one hundred thousand
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: dollars to shoot a snuff film. Another man named John
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: Todd spoke up about going to Thompson's home in Aspen, Colorado,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: for a human sacrifice. I'm not being theatrical here. What's
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: going on in Colorado? By the way, So John de Camp,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: who exposed the Franklin scandal, also spoke with the one
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: and only Alex Jones about Thompson's involvement with a snuff
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: film in California's Bohemian Grove. Watching a reading Fear and
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: Loathing in Las Vegas is enough to convince anyone of
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: the Adrena C junkies guilt in my opinion, But I
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: believe based on these testimonies in the research I've done,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: this story of John Bennet fits the mold of the
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: Christmas Eyes Wide chet party gone wrong and a horribly
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: botched up cover job to follow. I don't know if
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: you want to go back and revisit this episode, but
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: I myself have interviewed a survivor, doctor Julia Engel, who
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: was there, participated in the snuff films and witnessed first
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: hand these gruesome rituals. She spoke about the absolute importance
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: of Christmas for the Satanists and hunter s. Thompson did
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: as well. Should I read the quote again? Quote there
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: is always a rash of kidnappings and abductions of school
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: children in the football months. Preteens of both sexes are
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: traditionally seized and grabbed off the street reads by gangs
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: End quote.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: There is a reason why Stanley Kubrick stressed the Christmas
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: season in Eyes Wide Shut. There are so many people
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: or fans rather of Hunter S. Thompson, including my brother,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: who will legitimately fight to defend him. And it's like, dude,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: let's say preposterously that he had nothing to do with
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: the snuff films or Paul Banassi. He definitely fetishized animal brutality.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: His assistant documented in a statement his enjoyment of torturing animals.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: Guess what if you hurt animals, there is a special
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: place in the hottest Fire's pit in the Lake of
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: fucking fire for you. Someone who hurts animal should be
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: fisted with hot sauce in there. Fucking ain't as hole
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: for the rest of eternity. But anyways, there's too many
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: pieces to the puzzle coming together for me to even
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  Speaker 3: second guest that he was a part of this. I
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  Speaker 3: have watched Paul Banasi's deposition. I have watched Paul Banassi's
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  Speaker 3: many many interviews. The guy is telling the truth. If
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: you want to watch them for yourself, they were some
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: of the first videos I ever posted on Patreon. Go
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: go watch them, Go watch them for yourself. Look at
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: the guy. He looks like a nightmare, big black circles
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: under his eyes. He looks like he has been to
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  Speaker 3: the seventh level of Hell and returned. I've watched them all,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: I've heard them all. I've put my own research to
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  Speaker 3: the test in time and time again, I come up
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: with the same conclusions. Take this episode for what you will.
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  Speaker 3: Believe me, don't believe me, whatever. This is my recap
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: and conclusion for the Little Miss Christmas Ritual, John Biday
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: Ramsey Part two, If you will. The more I dig
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: into this case, the more that I find. And you know,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of people ask me why I continue to
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: do the podcast. You know, it's so dark and depressing
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  Speaker 3: and it gets to you and it starts weighing down
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  Speaker 3: on you and blah blah blah, And a lot of
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: people on the actual opposite side will say, how can
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: you think that everything is so demonic and satan And
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: it could just be something that's absolutely unrelated, or it
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: just happened to be a fluke accident or fruit whatever.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you subscribe to a specific religion
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: I know what I believe, and I know what I
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: have found to be true for myself, and all I
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: can do for each and every one of you is
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  Speaker 3: hope that you find these episodes informational. I hope they
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: open your mind. I hope they spark the fire within
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: you to continue to look for your own answers, because
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: there is so much out there that is still yet
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: to be discovered. And you know, a lot of things
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: frustrate me when I talk to people about this podcast,
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  Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, I am completely
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  Speaker 3: dedicated to bringing the truth the best way I know
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: how to each and every one of you, and I
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: hope that you, oddly as it sounds, enjoyed this episode.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: I know it's a hard episode to listen to, but
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  Speaker 3: I hope you got something out of it. I hope
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: that it was the conclusion you were looking for for
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: the John Binne Ramsey case. Of course, you can't go
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: back and listen to the first episode for another even
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: more completely different view on it. I think you can
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: mix both of these episodes together to really get the
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: full view of what's going on here. And I hope
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: you all had a beautiful, wonderful Christmas and enjoyed lots
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: of food and love from your family and friends. I
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: hope you got all of the presence you wanted, and
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four is gonna be absolutely incredible. There's gonna
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: be a lot of changes coming to the podcast. I
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: think you're gonna love all of them. And you know,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: things in life need a certain balance. I think that
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: you listen to an episode like this, it gets you
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 3: a little disheartened, maybe gets you a little black build
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: there's no hope left in the world. But then you
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: listen to another one of the episodes, it's a little
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: bit more lighthearted, little bit more comedic relief, kind of
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: takes you out of the zone. Maybe you listen to
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: a ghost episode or a true crime episode. And in
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: the end, it's all about finding that balance and remaining hopeful.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: And you can't help but to be hopeful when you're
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: feeling love from your family. So that's all I could
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: hope for you for Christmas this year is you just
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: feel loved and you feel on fire this year for
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, now think of it like this. This
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: is my forest gumpism.
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  Speaker 1: If you will.
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  Speaker 3: When you eat a bowl of beny wheats, you gotta
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: have the perfect amount of milk to wheat ratio. Okay,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: let's talk about that. You put too much milk, you
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: got soggy wheats, and then all the icings melted off
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: your wheat, and then you don't want to eat the
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: wheat because it's a soggy piece of shit. At that point,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: you don't put enough milk. You choked to death on
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: a fragment of the wheat thin itself. So you have
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: to find the perfect wheat to milk ratio. And that's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: what I hope to do here on my podcast is
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: give you a nice mix of paranormal true crime, conspiracy theory, comedy,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: horror movies, you name it. And thank you so much
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: for supporting the show as usual. I hope you're enjoying
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: the milk to wheat ratio if you will, And until
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: next time, thank you all so much for listening. Of course,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: check out Room two three seven that's the Cosmic Peach
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: Patreon to watch the Paul Binossi deposition and interviews, as
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: well as so much more bonus content and behind the
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: scenes features. With that being said, Merry Christmas, thank you
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: all so much for listening, and I will catch you
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: on the next one,