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Ep.27 - The Flow Episode: How To Master Timing, Desire & Opportunity · The Bull Brotherhood

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What is flow to me? It really embodies who I
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am. I mean, I'm really just living in the moment.
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Especially at an event. There's no set thing
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that I have to do. There's no set person I have
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to be with. Besides me running the room, I literally
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do whatever the fuck I want to do. And can't
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nobody shake me from that. This podcast contains
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explicit adult content, mature themes, and candid
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conversations about sex, dominance, power exchange,
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and ethical non -monogamy. It is intended for
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is advised. The views expressed by our guests
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are theirs alone and do not necessarily reflect
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be interpreted as legal advice, medical guidance,
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If you're not comfortable with Frank talk about
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sex, kink dominance or emotional power this probably
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isn't the show for you but if you're ready to
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step into your masculine edge and embrace a lifestyle
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that demands mastery welcome to the brotherhood
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welcome to the bull brotherhood podcast where
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we talk power pleasure and the art of dominance
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and ethical non -monogamy this is not your average
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lifestyle podcast this is for men who lead men
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who master, and men who leave a lasting impression.
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If you're here, you're not just curious. You're
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ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives,
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stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you.
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Let's go. Welcome to another exciting episode
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of the Bull Brotherhood. I am one third of your
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podcast team, along with Socrates and Brian Morgan.
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Brian Morgan is over on O -Faces tonight, podcasting
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with Mr. Mocha. So Socrates and I are here with
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our guest, Goliath. Welcome, Goliath. What's
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going on, y 'all? What's going on there, Ben?
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Hey, we're so glad that you're here. You guys
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have heard him on previous episode. We were just
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at Splash Mocha and him and Socrates had an enlightening
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moment. And so we want to focus the attention
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on that. But before we get into that, Goliath,
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tell us what you're doing. You're doing a whole
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lot of things, a whole lot of places to really
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move the ethical, non -monogamous bull community
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along. And we want to hear more about that. So
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tell us more about what you're doing. Well, I'm
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doing a little bit of everything nowadays. Right
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now, the main thing I'm doing now is I'm... I'm
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going to be taking over the Magnum BBC's group.
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Some of y 'all may have heard it. We're based
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out in Dallas, Texas. The leader and founder,
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Yanni, he's been doing it for, I don't know,
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20, 30, I don't know how many years, but the
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time has come to the changing of the guard. So
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that's where I come in to be leading that and
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got the first part of me being the official leader
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coming up in January. For those that want to
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get in contact with me. Yeah, where can we sign
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up? Because I need to sign up. Socrates told
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me today. Better get fucking signed. I mean,
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I like STC, but for people that don't have STC,
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I can be found on Twitter, X, whatever you guys
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want to call it, at Goliath of DFW for my Telegram.
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You just got to know me to get that. So if you
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hear about me, reach me on another platform and
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then get to me so I can get you that information.
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Don't need everybody finding me on that right
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now. And when is it? Oh, it's January 16th and
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19th in Dallas, Texas. So it's going to be a
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nice little event. So I encourage everybody to
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come and check it out. I'll be buying my plane
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tickets while we do this podcast. For sure. Come
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on back. It's going to be well worth it. I promise
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you. Yeah. And how much does it cost for a couple
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to go to one of those for the weekend? oh you're
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putting me on the spot i don't even got the fly
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in front of me but we're free right because we're
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put we're we're you know we're promoting it oh
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we're gonna we're gonna work something out on
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the underground you know yeah i got ways i can
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pay you i got ways i can pay you Oh, man, the
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fans may be listening, man. We do not promote
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prostitution or solicitation or anything like
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that here. So I'll put that out there right now.
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Oh, I was talking about, like, cleaning your
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house or something, like vacuuming before. I
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don't know what you were insinuating. Oh, man,
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you know, there's some things that I'm trying
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to ring the sound or something like that. I'm
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talking about washing dishes. I can holler while
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I vacuum, you know. Okay, okay. I like that.
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I'm so dirty. That's so funny. And then, okay,
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we've got the Magnum Party going on. What's this
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I hear about naughty in New Orleans? Yeah, yeah,
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naughty in New Orleans. Yeah, people hear about
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the plus one room. Probably know the chocolate
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room, but everybody knows the plus one room.
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That's where all the... the Black gentlemen are
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at. We hold it down, and I'm the leader of that.
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We make sure that there's quality men to service
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and uphold our standard and make sure that we
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please the women who are into us. So that event
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is in July. I don't know the exact dates off
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the top of my head, but it happens every year.
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And last year was a wonderful success. It was
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my first time running that, running that, doing
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the Hope and Forum for new couples who didn't
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know what it was all about. So they got interested
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and it was a very successful time. So I encourage
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you to come check that out as well. Besides Naughty,
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there's also Black the Cap, one of my favorite
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events that I do go to. I've been to it four
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times and I do host that as well. Another one
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of my brothers, my boy, Mr. East Coast out of
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Vegas. So yeah, Black the Cap, for those that
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don't know, it's in France. This year is the
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last week of August. It's a wonderful event.
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All -Naked City, lifestyle capital of the world,
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in my opinion. But don't just take my opinion.
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Come and check it out. I know there's a lot of
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brothers and sisters and couples that are going
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to be going this year because they've heard the
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hype and they want to jump on board. So if you
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need information on that, definitely hit me up.
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As well on that, it's a magnificent event. It
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will blow your mind how open the Europeans are
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as opposed to how we do things here in the U
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.S. of A. Yeah, refreshing, I'm sure. Oh, very
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refreshing. I want to ask a question about that
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couples class. How well attended, how well received
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was that? Tell us a little more about that. I
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think more events should adopt things like that.
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I haven't actually been to a class like that,
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but in talking in some of the ladies' chats and
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some other things, it just seems like that would
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be a good addition to many events, this orientation
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for couples on how to navigate, you know, in
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their interactions with the black gentleman.
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So that class, first of all, I didn't even want
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to do it. I mean, they said, hey, this is part
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of the assignment. And I'm like, I hate public
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speaking, but the best way to get comfortable
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is to get uncomfortable. So I did it last year
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and it became a little bit easier this year.
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But so for the class, it was very well attended.
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It was way more people than I expected. Before
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we had to move into a meeting room, like a conference
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room at the hotel. So I turned it into a panel.
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I discussed. Of course, like, the fetishization
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of single black men and how we are people, not
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just body parts. Talk about the different etiquettes
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whenever we come into a protest or whenever we
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come to rule, the expectations that, like, it's
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just like, just because somebody comes to the
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room doesn't mean we got to fuck them, right?
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Right. I understand that you may want me, but
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guess what? The two -way street. I got it. I'm
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in for it as well. Yeah, it's a two -way street
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and stuff like this. Some people have this. Some
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people had a misconception like, hey, this is
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because they're in there like auction. Like,
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I want this one. We ain't doing that shit. So,
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yes, it was a good educational system. And then
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also, I allowed them to ask the question that
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they had pondering in mind. And in that class,
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I say nothing is off limits. So I don't give
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a damn. What you got to say, say it. And the
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gentlemen that attend, they also were up there
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with me so that they weren't just getting my
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perspective on things, that they were able to
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get various different perspectives from different
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regions of men that do lifestyle in different
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places. So it was very educational for them,
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and it was very well attended. So I look forward
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to doing that again. Nice, nice. Well, let's
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talk about the interaction then between you and
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Socrates. Socrates, do you want to? He he he
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practically came running to the room. I don't
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know if I was napping, whatever. And he's like,
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oh, I just said someone spoke life into me and
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changed my life. And hallelujah. You know, so
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it was a whole thing, which my husband gets these
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these, you know, pivotal moments. We call them
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revelations where. Things just come together
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in his mind and then he understands them. And
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if anyone knows him, they know that he asks a
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lot of questions to get to these answers. But
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sometimes a conversation and just a couple of
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questions will get him there. really exciting
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it's like a little fast pass at disneyland or
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something so tell us about the conversation babe
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between you and goliath where were you at what
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was taking place just just go into that and then
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we can hear goliath's thoughts as well yeah yeah
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i can't wait so we gotta go way back to number
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one to add to this man's repertoire and all the
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things he does The reason why this came up is
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because he also heads up the glory hole and reverse
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glory hole room in Splash Mocha. So one of his
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many talents, which also happens to be Socrates'
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favorite place to be. I guarantee to find you
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in there. Yeah, so ladies, if you want to find
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it. My dick will be through the hole waiting
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for your lovely mouth. So what people don't know
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about me is I have ADHD as fuck and I am addicted
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to my calendar. Now, I don't run my calendar.
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My wife and my office manager do because that's
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how terrible I am at it. So but when I'm there,
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I own several businesses. We do these podcasts.
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I'm a very busy person. I sleep very little.
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And so I'm just building kind of like. Giving
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people the context of why this matters to me.
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And so I'm a very regimented person. And so the
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first time I went to Splash, you know, we've
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talked about this before. I went to this. I went
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there and I was I wasn't concerned about me because
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I didn't I didn't understand what Splash was.
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I was just thinking, OK, Siren's going to have
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a good time and I'm just going to be chilling,
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talking to other husbands and, you know, twiddling
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my thumbs. Right. And. Come to find out, oh,
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you know, I'm a black man and they're down for
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it. And so unbeknownst to me, my wife just said,
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screw it. I know what he needs. So they just
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started, she just started setting appointments.
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Well, the ladies kept asking me, like, can I
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get some time with your husband? And I was like.
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Well, the only way I know how to keep track of
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that is to go to Google Calendar. So, you know,
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it's my fault originally. And Saturday of that
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one, that wasn't the first splash, though. That
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was the second one. With the calendar stuff?
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Yeah, I didn't do it the first one. Oh, okay.
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Are you sure? Yes. I'm positive because I was
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much more comfortable with people the second
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one. People didn't approach that boldly the first
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time that we attended. And that was when your
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Achilles was ruptured and you were in the boot.
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yeah so so yeah so i made this count you know
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and it was basically i think by the time we started
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doing the calendar thing it was like friday and
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then saturday i had him booked back to back to
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back like i came in i brought him a cheeseburger
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i was like hey you about wrapping up here because
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you're and he's like yeah we're about done i
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was like when he's like when's my next appointment
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i said 10 minutes like i had this guy every hour
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on the hour with no breaks because I thought
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that's crazy I thought oh yeah like you know
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you know when you're with your partner and you
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just know exactly what to do and when to do it
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and so something that takes another person two
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hours to get to you can get to in 15 minutes
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so that timeline was in my head I'm like you
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know we like 10 15 to 30 minutes but when you're
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playing with someone else you're you're taking
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your time you know so I had him and then he never
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made it down to the party on Saturday night I
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left him. He's like, I'll be down in 20 minutes.
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I said, you're not coming down. I know you're
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not coming down. It's OK. When I came back up
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at 4 a .m., he was asleep on the bed with his
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clothes on, his whole bag, you know, around his
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shoulder. He thought he thought he was going
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to be a badass. No, but that's just that's how
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a lot of men. you know, operate. Oh yeah. I'm
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so ready for splash. And then they go hard. And
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then, you know, that's why everybody tell them
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it's a marathon, not a sprint. Yeah. We got guys
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here locally. They're like, I'm ready to go.
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I'm like, you're not ready. I said, if you can't
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make me tap out, you are not ready. So anyway,
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that's just the background. Like that's how crazy
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I was. And obviously that got, that got old quickly.
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And. A lot of women weren't down for that, which
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is fine. But so I tried it the other way and
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I got into a lot of trouble because, you know,
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women saying, oh, he's not paying attention or
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he's too busy. He's running all over the place.
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And I'm like, yeah, because my whole life is
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ran by calendar. So when I'm here, I'm on vacation.
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And most people, they're like, dude, I, you know,
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they're professionals. You know, they have jobs
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or they're business owners or parents, you know,
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active lives. And they're like. I do that shit
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outside of, you know, a hotel takeover or whatever
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I'm doing. I don't want to do that shit when
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I'm here, right? So it wasn't working for me.
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And I was pissing people off or, like, missing
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the people I wanted to or, you know, or didn't
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have enough time with the people I wanted to
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or, you know, whatever the situation is. And
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it wasn't working out for me. And from day one,
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everybody was saying, man, just go with the flow.
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And I tell you, I hated that statement. I don't
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go with the flow at nothing. Like, I used to
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surf. And I'm like, you can't go with the flow.
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You have to paddle your ass off to catch that
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thing. There's no such thing. I'm like, and even
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if I'm, you know, kayaking, because I like to
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do a lot of water sports things, I still ain't
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going with the flow. I'm not a go with the flow
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guy. And so it just drove me crazy. This was
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our eighth splash. Nothing was working. It was
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frustrating people and frustrating my wife. And,
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you know, people tell me all kind of reasons
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why you should go with the flow and why it works.
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And I just said, you know what? I said, the guy
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that I know sees the flow, he sees how the flow
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works, is Goliath. So I said, I'm going to go
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up to him and ask him about it. get his opinion
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and i was like and i'm just gonna let you go
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from there where i went but goliath but i was
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like hey you know i like to schedule i like to
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do this i like you know but i'm having some troubles
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what do you think and and he just said go with
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the flow and then i'll let you you know well
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it's some of that too babe that you really like
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to have things to look forward to yeah that are
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like a sure thing yeah that too exactly so it's
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like you know, sometimes just having things on
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the calendar, but Goliath and I had a great conversation
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via text today about it. And I think that was
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really, you know, a lot of what we're going to,
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we're going to get into. So. Yeah. So Goliath,
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break it down, break it down, you know, tell
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the, tell our listeners, you know, what you,
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the wisdom you broke down to me, brother. I mean,
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so like you, you came to me and you've told me
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like, you want, you want, you want things to
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be a certain way. Things have to go their way
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for you. And when things didn't go that way,
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you get frustrated. You think, if it didn't happen
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now in my time, it's never going to happen. So
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the opportunity is done with. And I'm like, man,
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no, you can't be like that. You just got to really
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go with the flow. And you gave me that same thing.
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Like, man, what do you mean by that? Like, everybody
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says that. But the thing is, going with the flow,
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the door is always open. Like, it's never shut.
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Things don't happen for various different reasons,
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whether it be the girl may have just got done
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with the play date, so the 2 o 'clock that you
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plan to have with her, she still wore out or
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still tired from the last one, and she needs
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a little more time. Maybe it was a stressful
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situation for her where she needs more time to
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decompress so that she can give you her full
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attention. Or maybe... Oh, she's actually hungry
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or she got, she got women problems. It could
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be numerous different things. You can't let that
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affect your psyche. It just, it just wasn't meant
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to happen right then and there. Just, just keep
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it pushing. And you've already expressed your
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interest. Like you said, you've expressed your
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interest already to them. And so that's already
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understood by them. Yeah. Go with the flow. Okay,
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go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, too,
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is a lot of times it's not the lack of interest.
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It's just the timing. And when we talked about
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it earlier today, I said, you know, the beauty
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of flow, not worrying about who you're going
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to play with and when. And then when it finally
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happens, it's super, super fun. It's like you
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and I have talked for how many splashes? Like,
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oh, yeah. Like, let's get together. I ain't worried
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about it. Eventually, when the time comes, the
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time comes. And we'll have a great time. But,
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you know, another thing too, Socrates, you say,
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we got to stop acting like we're not coming back
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to this. You know, we say that with Hawaii or
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anything else. It's like, if you don't get to
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experience everyone or everybody, oh, I missed
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your chance. No, you didn't. What if you didn't
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even see that person? You know, you didn't miss
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out on something that you didn't get to do. You
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know, there's going to be more. There's going
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to be more. And that's exactly it. Because, like,
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for me, like, for instance, I've been doing Splash,
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what, since 2019. And there's people that I've
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met since 2019 that we still ain't played yet.
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And we know the interest is there. But we in
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2025, six years, we haven't played yet. We got
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great chemistry. We chat it up all the time.
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We see each other. But just things just haven't
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lined up for various reasons. But there's no
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love lost when you're able to talk. And there's
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others where I've met in a short period of time
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where the opportunities come, we don't play.
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And it was great. It's all about organic timing.
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So I always say this. I say this shit all the
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time. And I'm not saying this is you, Socrates.
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I'm never pressed for pussy. Pussy is always
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going to be there. It's always going to be available.
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Amen. I know with Splash, it's a hypersexual
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time. There are some people that make lists.
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okay i want to be able to i want to be able to
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connect with this person this time like like
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this is a high priority mission for me or whatever
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so you won't put your all in to try to make that
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happen but sometimes it's just not meant to be
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but guess what the door is always open i i would
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say that like there's one one situation there's
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one lady that i'm very very very highly of I
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think very highly of her. We made interest known,
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I think, back in 2022. And we kept on missing
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each other. One time, I just finished playing.
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She was trying to come. We see each other in
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passing. I'm like, oh, this is going to be the
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time. I'm like, I just got done playing. I got
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to go freshen up. I come back. I see her. She's
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going with another guy. I'm like, hey, go do
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your damn thing. Say have fun. And that happened,
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like, at two or three different events back to
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back. I mean, it was a slow burn, but guess what?
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It built that anticipation. Like, hey, whenever
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we get our time together, this is going to be
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fucking magical. So one time she come down there
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to the Red Story Hall room. She come down there.
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She gave me her kiss like she usually do and
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stuff like that. She gave me that look. Like,
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when is this going to happen? And me being horny
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at the time and the room wasn't really as busy.
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Shit, my ass looked around. I told one of the
21:48
homies, I said, hey, man, I'm about to shut this
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damn door. Just stand outside the door. And if
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anybody asks, it's some construction going on
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in here. Things will be open whenever they be
21:58
back open again and shit like that. So, yeah,
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I kicked everybody the fuck out. And shit, me
22:03
and her had our very first session in the playroom.
22:07
And that shit was fucking magical as shit. I
22:10
mean. I prefer it than one of our rooms because
22:14
the beds are more comfortable. But we had a fucking
22:17
fantastic time. And that was, it was everything.
22:22
And I enjoyed it very much. We both equally enjoyed
22:26
it. It was like, damn, that weight, it was all
22:29
well worth it and stuff like that. So sometimes
22:32
you just got to, hey, just go with the flow and
22:34
shit going to work out for you. And you even
22:37
gave me a scenario to tell me about the... Tell
22:40
me about the dance situation, Socrates. The what
22:43
situation? Whenever you were dancing with somebody's
22:45
friend on the dance floor, and you said you had
22:48
tried to talk to one of her friends, and you
22:53
thought there was no interest. She saw you dancing
22:57
with her friend. Exactly. And guess what? You
23:01
end up getting somebody that you wanted just
23:03
on the flow shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember
23:07
that. Yep. That one was nice. So, so, so that,
23:10
so that right there was a perfect, a perfect,
23:13
you know, the damn word I want to use. Example.
23:16
That's a basic word, but perfect example of how
23:18
that shit works out for you. Well, and I'm like,
23:21
I was telling you earlier on the text too. It's
23:22
like, I ran buck wild for many a splashes. And
23:25
then I just started being, I think it was Atlanta
23:28
last year. Yeah. So 2024 that I had like 17 appointments
23:33
booked before I even got there. And then I got
23:37
there. And then I got through a few of them.
23:41
But then I met someone like Thursday night. And
23:45
then I ended up playing with him like six or
23:47
seven times. Had to cancel all my damn appointments.
23:50
So, you know. And after that I was like, I'm
23:53
not doing this appointment shit anymore. Because
23:55
I hated canceling on the other people. But I
23:59
was like, I want to be where I want to be with
24:03
who I want to be. And then. in fort lauderdale
24:06
this year before that one i was like you know
24:09
what i'm just going to make sure that i am with
24:11
who i want to be with where i want to be doing
24:15
what i want to be doing at all times and if i
24:18
adopt that motto then i'm going to have a great
24:21
time so this you know this splash i wasn't feeling
24:25
as good so there was a lot of times that you
24:29
know i'm sitting with a group of people they're
24:30
talking My energy's low. I'm not really comprehending
24:34
what they're talking about anyway because I don't
24:35
feel great. And I'm just like, you know what?
24:37
I'm just going to go to the room. I'm going to
24:39
go to the room and rest. You know, Socrates ran
24:41
after me a couple times like, you okay? You okay?
24:44
I'm like, I just don't feel good. I was like,
24:45
nobody's pissing me off. I'm not mad. I'm not
24:48
upset. You know, I just don't want to be here
24:50
right now. So I should go to bed. Save my energy.
24:53
So, you know, if you really think about those
24:56
three things, then you really can't go wrong.
24:59
you know, and cause that is the definition of
25:02
flow is just, Hey, if right now in this space,
25:05
you're not enjoying yourself, switch things up,
25:07
do something different. But you know, I didn't,
25:10
I didn't chase down anybody or, you know, feel
25:14
FOMO or anything like that. Cause I was just
25:17
being present at all times. I wasn't worried
25:20
about what I was doing in the next half hour.
25:21
So yeah, I love that. Being present is always
25:27
definitely being part of the flow. And so I want
25:29
to piggyback on that. So Siren gave her definition
25:32
of flow, which I think is brilliant. Goliath,
25:35
what is your definition of flow? What is flow
25:39
to you? What is flow to me? It really embodies
25:43
who I am. I mean, I'm really just living in the
25:47
moment. Like, there's no, especially at an event,
25:51
like, there's no set thing. That I have to do.
25:55
There's no set person I have to be with. Besides
25:59
me running the room. I literally do whatever
26:02
the fuck I want to do. And can't nobody. Can't
26:05
nobody shake me from that. Like. If I want. Like
26:09
she said. If I want to go fuck this person for
26:12
two hours. And then take me a nap afterwards.
26:15
I'll be totally fine with that. And won't get
26:17
too fucked when anybody else thinks about it.
26:19
Because that's what I want to do. I'm doing what
26:21
I enjoy. Not because. Damn, I got to go to this
26:27
person's room at 5 o 'clock or they have this
26:29
room party here at 2 .30. Shit, I got somebody,
26:33
I'm with somebody right now. Do I want to cut
26:36
things short? Nah, I'm enjoying my time with
26:40
who I'm enjoying it with. And if it's mutually
26:43
there. That's what I'm doing. Or if I just want
26:45
to just be on my fucking shelf and take me a
26:48
nap and watch a college football game or just
26:51
be on my phone scrolling, I have the right to
26:53
do all that. I mean, I'm just doing whatever
26:56
that I want to do with no obligation. I think
26:58
that's what flow is. And just letting things
27:01
happen organically. So, you know me, I'm a very
27:07
tactile person. Like everything... has to make
27:10
sense for me, not because of insecurities. I
27:13
think a lot of, like you said, I'm not pressed
27:15
for pussy either. Like before I got into the
27:17
lifestyle, my numbers was high and there was
27:21
no problem. There's never been a problem getting
27:22
pussy in my life since I was 12. Okay. Okay.
27:25
But you know, I mean, my first, I think it was
27:29
the second splash. We celebrated a number out
27:32
there. Like I reached incredibly high number
27:34
of splash. And that was a big thing that siren
27:37
did. So it was never about being pressed for
27:40
it. It was always about, I am so out of sorts
27:44
when I don't know the next thing I can look forward
27:49
to where I'm going. So it's hard for me. It was
27:52
hard for me to grasp what I wanted to do next.
27:59
If it's nothing on the calendar to tell me, cause
28:02
I'm not putting stuff on the calendar. That everybody
28:05
else wants me to do. I have people like my wife
28:08
and my office manager. I pay her to put things
28:12
that I say, this is the things I want to do with
28:14
my life. Right. So, but I said all that to say
28:18
this, what you said to me blew me away, which
28:21
is at least always leaves the door open because
28:24
the reason, the thing I've told this story before,
28:27
and if you know who you are, like, I want you
28:30
to know that cause she goes to splash all the
28:33
time. that I respect you even more now. I love
28:37
it. It wasn't out of problem. This woman didn't
28:40
do anything wrong. And I think I talked about
28:43
it in our episode when we were at Splash. And
28:47
I said, look. So I went in and I saw her. And
28:50
I'm this type of person where it's all about
28:54
chemistry and vibe to me. All about that. And
28:57
I get teased because I'll play with some women
29:00
that some guys are like, they got on the ugly
29:01
still. And I'll play with some or I'll interact
29:04
with some really hot women. And they'll be like,
29:09
I won't be interested because the vibes is not
29:12
there. That's just me. Some guys go off looks.
29:16
It's no problem. I don't care about that. Some
29:17
guys go off whatever they own. That's my thing.
29:20
I don't care. So, but when, but so I saw this
29:26
girl and I rarely catch a vibe with looks. I'm
29:32
rarely like, oh, love at first sight type of
29:34
person. I'm rarely like, I can look at a woman
29:37
and be like, oh, she's hot. But the vibe's not
29:39
there because I don't know her, right? There's
29:42
no vibe there. She's just attractive. But then
29:44
there's this one woman I saw and I said, not
29:47
only is she hot, I'm just vibing off or just
29:50
watching her, right? So then, boom, that happens.
29:54
Now, a lot of times, majority of the time, I'll
29:57
meet a woman and then the vibe comes around.
30:00
And then there's the attraction, right? And it
30:03
has nothing to do with her looks. Now, I have
30:05
a preference. We all do. But I'm like that. So
30:09
the reason why I was so obsessed with it because
30:13
I was like, I rarely get women that I'm like,
30:17
oh, I'm vibing with her and I haven't even talked
30:19
to her yet. Right? And she was her. So I went
30:22
up to her and I was like, okay, I'm going to
30:24
talk to her. And I did. And I was like. We had
30:27
a great conversation. And eventually I'm like,
30:29
you know, so, you know, if you don't mind, you
30:32
know, if you're interested, I'd love to play.
30:34
And she was like, yeah. And then I can't remember
30:38
what she said. She was like, I said it a lot
30:42
in the last episode. But what was she saying?
30:44
She was like, yeah, let's catch each other later
30:46
or something like that. And so we're business
30:49
owners. And one of the things that me and Siren
30:51
say to each other all the time is fortune is
30:54
in the follow up. And so I was like, okay, bet.
30:57
I'll follow up with her, right? Saw her the next
31:00
day. Hey, how's it doing? You know, get a chance,
31:04
you know. What do you say about 2 o 'clock? I'd
31:06
love to. Yeah, you know, right now I'm doing
31:08
this. You know, let's do it later, you know.
31:11
Something, I can't. She kept saying the same
31:13
thing every time. And she was like, yeah, let's
31:16
catch up later. And I was like, okay. Followed
31:19
up the next day. Yeah. You know when I gave up,
31:22
Goliath? It was the last day she said it. I was
31:26
like the third or fourth day. And I was like,
31:28
yeah, you know, next time. You know, I'd love
31:31
to. She says, yeah, you know, maybe sometime
31:34
later. And I was like, oh, I get it. Now, I thought
31:39
that meant, here's the crazy thing. I thought
31:41
that meant she wasn't interested. No problem.
31:43
Women say that all the time. A few slashes later,
31:46
I'm in a room party, like you said. And this
31:48
proved your point. But I didn't understand it
31:51
at the time. I'm in a room party. And I'm just
31:53
doing my thing. She comes in, and I just love
31:57
her style. She just comes in, and she just has
31:59
this type of swag to her. And she just said a
32:03
few things, took her clothes off, and went wild
32:06
on me. And I was like, what the? And we had a
32:09
great time, and then she moved on to whatever
32:12
she was doing. Now, I didn't see what you said
32:14
at that time. I was like, what the? I was so
32:18
confused. I was all over the place. Because you
32:23
were thinking with your actual brain and that
32:25
was the time that you were supposed to be thinking
32:27
with your dick. I'm just thinking with my dick.
32:30
That was when you were supposed to shut your
32:32
mind off and think with your dick. And you need
32:34
to get that said. He's thinking too much with
32:37
his brain at Splash. Maybe that's why you need
32:39
that calm down period. Come into Splash. Don't
32:42
think with your brain so much. Well, so the reason
32:45
why I said all that, guys, is because when he
32:48
said that, I didn't have something to hold on
32:52
to. And I had an instance when I followed up
32:56
with someone and it made me feel like she was
32:59
just trying to reject me. But now, if I don't
33:03
have a schedule, what he said was, it leaves
33:07
the door open. So my mind easily said, oh. Then
33:11
every time you talk to somebody, talk to them
33:14
with the goal in mind of opening the door. And
33:19
when the door is open, I make sure that every
33:22
interaction says that door is wide open. Right?
33:26
It could be I'm not attracted to him. He's not
33:29
my type. But he's really cool. And I enjoy his
33:32
podcast. Or they don't even know I have a podcast.
33:34
He's really dressed nice. I like what he dresses.
33:36
Whatever the case may be. You know, or. We played
33:41
and she was like, it's so amazing. I hope I get
33:44
to play when I'm getting, whatever it is. If
33:47
now that my, my brain grasped on every internet,
33:52
every interaction with that person, I'm doing
33:56
everything I can to be my most authentic self.
34:00
And then, so now all I need to do is just make
34:03
sure that I do my best to keep that door open.
34:05
And that changed everything. Like it changed
34:09
my, All my demeanor about everything. Yeah. I'm
34:13
glad I was able to instill that wisdom into you
34:16
so that you can apply that. And so other aspects.
34:21
That takes away my stress. Tell me why. Because
34:25
you fucking stressed me out at Splash with this.
34:27
You know, your nickname. That was during sex.
34:31
Those noises were during sex. No, your nickname
34:33
is Squirrel, right? The ladies call you that,
34:37
okay? So if you are going to go with this new
34:40
mantra, like that's really going to help everybody.
34:43
that is like, okay, well, when's he going to
34:45
dart off next? But if you're just trying to like
34:47
pay attention and be present and be in the moment,
34:50
like I told you about Fort Lauderdale, like you
34:52
navigated that perfectly. And then this one,
34:56
you know, I wasn't feeling good. So I wasn't
34:58
around you. You know what I mean? So it just
34:59
grows from there. But every time you like get
35:01
a new piece of the puzzle for what works for
35:05
you, you know, that just makes you more attractive
35:07
and it makes more women come to you, you know?
35:11
Like we were in Fort Lauderdale. We were, we
35:13
had talked about, you know, just chilling a little
35:16
bit more and we were in the pool and it was on,
35:20
I think it was Thursday during the day, you know,
35:24
before we took over. Or maybe it was on Wednesday
35:25
because we usually come in on Tuesdays and we're
35:29
crazy. So we were, we were chilling. He had,
35:32
you know, I wasn't with him. He had the attention
35:33
of three lovely ladies when one of his favorites
35:36
walked in and I just. kind of went up beside
35:39
him and i said remember dick daddy like you are
35:43
already here with these three ladies and me she
35:47
will come to us and say hello i was like just
35:52
stay here don't start twitching or nothing like
35:55
just just chill and he did and guess what she
35:58
got her towel settled her husband settled the
36:01
whole thing and then she came right over and
36:03
joined us right so you got to have the company
36:05
of four ladies plus your wife you know so just
36:10
little things like that of seeing how it does
36:12
work when you just breathe and are in the moment
36:15
like that so just more things to add to his understanding
36:18
just help him to you know to understand you know
36:23
understand Yeah, and I couldn't be around him
36:29
at this last one, so sorry, ladies, if I was
36:32
just not feeling well. But the ladies took good
36:34
care of him. I heard some feedback. I was like,
36:38
go, release the hound. But what night was that
36:42
that you talked to Goliath then? And how, tell
36:44
us the difference between before you talked to
36:46
him and after at that splash. Oh yeah. I mean,
36:49
and like, how did you navigate the remainder?
36:51
You got that advice. So to answer the first,
36:54
the first part before it kind of, and to address
36:57
some of the things you said before, like I'm
36:59
not like, if I'm in front of you talking to you,
37:02
I'm really interested in you, but I, you know,
37:05
I, I'm not the type of person that can hear X,
37:09
Y, and Z behind me and not look and hear somebody
37:12
else. Know somebody, see somebody walk by that
37:15
I know really well and not say hello or smell
37:20
some really good food and not be curious. And
37:22
so if that's all of these things going on, some
37:26
of you guys call it overwhelmed. You know, like
37:28
a lot of people say, oh, I just got overwhelmed
37:30
because you have all these sensations. Overstimulated.
37:34
Or overstimulated. I don't get overstimulated.
37:36
I just get extra curious. So when everybody else
37:41
gets overstimulated or nervous or the situation
37:44
is too big for them, I just get more curious
37:47
and more curious and more curious. And sometimes
37:49
I'm supposed to be focused on the person in front
37:53
of me. It doesn't mean I'm not fully in what
37:56
they're saying because my brain is so crazy.
38:00
I'm processing all of that. Body is responding
38:04
to looking over here, thinking this way, moving,
38:06
shifting. But now what this does is it gives
38:09
me a goal. And that's all I needed. I wasn't
38:13
a squirrel. I wasn't all that other stuff. I
38:15
didn't have a goal. Because if you think about
38:17
that splash, you don't think about the splash
38:20
that I had all the appointments. I was chilled
38:22
as fuck. You don't remember that, Siren, because
38:25
you were having the time of your life. Because
38:28
the first one, you were so nervous. And the second
38:30
one, you were right. I think it was the second
38:32
one. You went crazy because you were like, oh,
38:34
shit, this is for reals. But I was chilled as
38:37
fuck. Because why? I got a 2 o 'clock. So I go
38:40
get my lunch. I'll take care of you. I got to
38:42
do this. And I'm excited about the 2 o 'clock.
38:44
None of the women, like, I'm not. I'm not the
38:49
type of person, well, let's see what happens.
38:50
No, if I see you, if I'm attracted to you, well,
38:53
then I'm kind of, I'm the bull. I like to take
38:56
leadership. I'm going to, we're going to send
38:58
each other through the process. Now, it's not
38:59
like every single time's perfection and, you
39:03
know, the sun's coming out and fireworks are
39:08
going off. I'm not saying that, but I was cool
39:10
as fuck because I had something to grab hold
39:12
to. If I don't have a player point. Then I'm
39:14
going with my, me and my wife have routines.
39:17
We get up in the morning. We go to breakfast
39:19
together. Then we go, then, you know, then we
39:22
have do whatever in between. Then we have lunch.
39:24
We reconnect, you know. Then we do everything
39:27
in between. And then we go down at night. And
39:30
then we have our outfits. And we do the walk.
39:33
I'm terrible at the walk because I'm ADHD as
39:35
fuck. But, you know what I mean? We're supposed
39:37
to walk and not be distracted. And I'm terrible
39:41
at that. I knew in between those things, I had
39:46
my play dates. And then after 10, it's the play
39:50
rooms. And before this last one, I stopped. I
39:54
had decided before I came, I'm not going to do
39:55
the play rooms this time. As much. Besides the
39:58
Glory Hill room. So I'm not going to do all the
40:00
other rooms. I used to do almost all of them
40:02
because I loved them all. And I decided, okay,
40:04
so we do all that. Everything was planned out.
40:07
If after 10, I'm going to walk through all the
40:10
rooms. I'm going to get lucky. And then if I
40:13
could take them up to a room, I will because
40:15
I like the one -on -ones. And then every other
40:18
time, glory hole. So glory hole, then walk around,
40:22
get lucky maybe, check on my wife, talk to the
40:25
friends. Glory hole, walk around, play, talk
40:29
to some friends, use the bathroom, check on my
40:31
wife. Glory hole, walk around. I'm not going
40:35
to lie. I love it. This is what's going on. Yeah.
40:38
The thing that revolutionized me is now I have
40:41
something to hold on to in front of everybody.
40:43
I don't care who it is, if it's staff, if it's
40:47
hotel staff, if it's my best friend, if it's
40:52
my wife, if it's a play partner, if it's a stranger
40:55
off the street, I know, okay, I'm leaving the
40:59
door open. So from Thursday to Saturday night,
41:03
I'm leaving the door open. And that helped me
41:06
tremendously. Helps calm me down so I can be
41:09
like, I don't worry about the food over there.
41:11
I'm leaving the door open in front of this woman.
41:12
I don't worry about my friend who already have
41:14
a door open that's walking by. That door is open
41:17
already. I'm working on this door being open
41:19
with this person. And I don't care about, okay,
41:23
I checked my watch. I got plenty of time for
41:25
the episode, you know, because we're podcasting.
41:28
We're doing, you know, I'm on other people's
41:30
podcast. You know, so I'm like, I'm not worried
41:33
about that because while I'm in front of this
41:35
person, I'm opening their door. And then. Once
41:37
I need to leave because my wife's calling me
41:39
or I have an appointment or I need to go, whatever,
41:42
then I can end that conversation. Hopefully the
41:47
door was made wider or opened or whatever. That's
41:51
revolutionary for me because that's what I needed
41:53
to hold on to. But I also think, and I want you
41:56
guys to talk about this, I think it helps a lot
41:58
of other people for a lot of other reasons. I
42:01
just can't imagine them because I want my listeners
42:03
to maybe think about some of them because...
42:06
That's all I helped. It was like it helped this
42:08
big problem, and that's it. But I'm sure there's
42:10
other benefits to doing that. To going with the
42:13
flow? Well, just the mentality of leaving the
42:15
door open. Always going with the flow, but always
42:20
leaving the door open for interactions with people.
42:23
I think that would really help a lot of other
42:25
people. I think people don't talk to certain
42:28
people because maybe they're not interested.
42:32
Well, what if you just left the door open? and
42:34
had a conversation with somebody, and next thing
42:36
you know, it might turn into a friendship, a
42:38
business partnership, or hell, you might be turned
42:40
on by somebody you're not normally playing with.
42:42
You know what I mean? Well, you just named them
42:45
all, so what do you mean you don't know? You
42:47
just did it. I mean, I'll say this. I mean, I
42:52
understand leaving the door open, but some people,
42:55
I mean, that's going to be a whole other podcast
42:56
thing I just thought about, but some people you
43:00
want the door to be closed on. Mm -hmm. some
43:03
some people you just like no fuck all that you
43:06
ain't never getting this fucking done well and
43:08
i've been coaching the ladies on that because
43:10
i said you are it's kind of like this when i
43:15
you know got divorced from my first husband i
43:18
swore to myself if i wasn't 100 interested in
43:21
a guy i would let him go immediately you know
43:24
and even if i was only interested in him for
43:26
a week you know whatever but if i wasn't 100
43:28
on it i was gonna like let him go because guess
43:31
what someone the love of his life could be around
43:34
the corner and i'm wasting his time you know
43:37
so it's a favor to them so i told the ladies
43:39
i said if you're not interested in a guy you
43:42
know i said If you're nice about it and you aren't
43:45
rude, there ain't no guy that's going to like
43:48
not let you come back and say, you know, I wasn't
43:50
interested before, but I've been watching you.
43:51
And now I am interested if you'd like to give
43:54
it another shot, you know. But in the time being,
43:56
don't say later or these things if you don't
44:00
mean it. Just simply say, you know, I appreciate
44:03
you, but I'm just not interested. That is such
44:06
a simple line. And it's helped me so much. But
44:09
it took me a few splashes because, you know.
44:12
I'd be chatting up a dude and then I meet him.
44:14
There's no vibe. And then I feel bad. So I was
44:16
just like, I got to just tell him that because
44:18
there is other women that do want to play with
44:21
him and he's chasing me around and I'm not interested.
44:24
That's not fair to the other women that do want
44:27
to spend time with him or to him. So you're doing
44:30
people a favor by just being truthful with them.
44:34
And we got to get used to, you know, dealing
44:37
with. you know, like you said, to get comfortable,
44:39
you got to get uncomfortable. So, you know, and
44:43
then, and then that way, if, if someone, you
44:45
know, for whatever reason you're, you want to
44:47
shut the door and keep it shut, you can with
44:50
just that simple line, you know, and I've, I've
44:53
haven't had any guys come back and, you know,
44:56
try to, you know, cram the door open after I've
45:00
said, Hey, you know, I'm just not interested.
45:02
So I think that's a simple and effective way
45:05
to do it. and you know everyone's worried about
45:08
feelings and stuff i was like well you know not
45:10
everybody is for everybody there but there is
45:13
something for everybody there so you just have
45:16
to kind of get used to that and the lifestyle
45:18
is like not everybody's going to be your cup
45:21
of tea or vice versa so and it's okay there's
45:24
there's plenty there's plenty of people there
45:27
to get to know so but leaving the door open too
45:31
you know like like you said also Maybe where
45:34
I do kind of feel like I try not to feel bad
45:38
about it. But a couple of times this has happened
45:39
to me where I've closed the door on a guy and
45:42
then I end up playing with his roommate and then
45:44
he walks in. in the middle of i'm having the
45:47
best time ever with his roommate and i kind of
45:49
go oh shoot like that kind of feels a little
45:52
awkward but i'm also like well it is what it
45:56
is and then his or his roommates like doesn't
45:58
know that i turned his roommate down like the
46:00
guy i'm playing with and he's like bragging about
46:03
what a good time he had or whatever and then
46:06
he walks in he's like oh is this the girl that
46:08
you were talking about earlier and like you had
46:11
such a good time with and he's like yeah and
46:13
then the guy's like oh and i and i do feel bad
46:16
about that but you know you just it's what if
46:19
he spends a block what if he spends a block and
46:22
like what if he's like damn that ass looking
46:24
good up in the air like damn i see how you're
46:26
slapping that ass and watching that well i was
46:29
watching her watching you suck that dick like
46:31
i had to try again like let's let's revisit this
46:34
has that ever happened to you like no they just
46:37
look disappointed and they try to get out of
46:39
the room as fast as they can i'm just getting
46:41
another drink i'm getting out of here i'm getting
46:43
out of here and i don't care i think when one
46:45
thing for me at splash is if you have a roommate
46:48
that's equal equal airspace in there so i said
46:52
you know if your roommate needs to come in and
46:54
do whatever they need to do it's their room too
46:56
i don't i don't want to be the cause of like
46:59
someone getting shut out of their room but that
47:00
usually they're like come in get their drink
47:02
and get the fuck out now if it's somebody I've
47:05
had guys, too, just lay on the bed scrolling
47:07
their phone the whole time. Not even watching
47:10
us. Not even paying attention. So, you know,
47:13
or sleeping. You know, all kinds of situations.
47:16
So that's very interesting when you're going
47:19
to have a one -on -one and, you know, the roommate's
47:22
in there. But I don't mind either way. But, no,
47:24
I've never had them try again after they saw
47:27
the hot action. They just look uncomfortable
47:30
and leave. Respecting that boundary, sir. That's
47:33
solid, man. Yeah, what other things might be
47:36
a benefit of, like, leaving the door open, do
47:39
you think, besides just play? Shit, I mean, genuine
47:42
friendship. Some people, like, I'm a connection
47:45
person. Like, I like knowing people. just more
47:49
than just I wonder what else is going on in your
47:51
life if they're open to that because not everybody's
47:53
open to that some people are just like hey I
47:55
just want to fuck keep it all sexual and that's
47:57
it I don't want you to know nothing about my
47:59
personal life I don't want you to know what the
48:00
fuck I work at my kids and my business ventures
48:04
they want to keep all that shit separate and
48:06
that's totally fine but I think like there's
48:09
some people like you don't know as the conversation
48:11
starts going You don't know if there's potential
48:14
for anything else because you pick up on the
48:17
signs. I mean, I know I pick up on the signs
48:20
and shit like that. So for me, I mean, I'm cool
48:23
with... Maybe somebody's going to end up coming
48:25
to my party. They may not be able to get that
48:27
time with me in a splash environment or anything
48:30
like that, but they're like, okay, I've heard
48:31
about your party. Tell me about this. Oh, I've
48:33
got to do this, this, this. You should come to
48:35
Nadi. You should come to Black the Cap or whatever.
48:37
So that could build that type of relationship
48:39
with them or connection with them. So it doesn't
48:42
always have to be sexual. I mean, some people,
48:45
ideally, that's what you may want from them,
48:47
but it may not start off as that and then eventually
48:50
turn into that. Well, and and to another thing
48:54
I think of as a woman is when guys just leave
48:57
that door open, it gives me more people that
49:00
I can go to if I if I need something, if I need
49:04
a guy to walk with me or, you know, somewhere.
49:08
or, you know, any safety issues. You know, you
49:11
just have more people looking out for you. So
49:13
when you're just kind and genuine to everyone
49:16
and leave that door open, you know, or for mentorship,
49:19
you know, like maybe some guy's not my cup of
49:22
tea, but they're like, you know, they have a
49:25
lady friend that's like, oh, you know, I want
49:27
to talk more about this. And they're like, well,
49:30
that Simon chick, like I never played with her,
49:31
but she's got this podcast. She's got other things
49:34
going. Maybe you could talk to her. So there's
49:36
all just kinds of. of ways that we can help each
49:39
other in this community besides with our private
49:42
parts. They're not so private at these events,
49:45
right? But, you know, it's a community of, like,
49:47
helping people, you know, get to their other
49:50
goals, too, outside of that area. So, yeah, just
49:54
the genuine friendships. Like, we have people
49:56
there that I feel really close to and genuine
49:59
friendships, and we've never even played. So,
50:01
you know, it's great. Or you may travel to their
50:05
city and then you may have a connection there
50:08
and get a little one -on -one or something like
50:10
that. Get some dinner, give you some good tips
50:13
on some things, life advice, that type of thing.
50:17
It's more than just pussy and dick. It's endless
50:21
possibilities. I like pussy and women love dick.
50:23
Yeah, it's endless possibilities, though, of
50:26
what could be connected. And then you know that
50:28
those people, it's always someone that you can
50:30
talk to. You know, like, you know, if you ran
50:33
into them somewhere, you know, they know kind
50:36
of your whole, you know, underground secrets.
50:40
So it's always somebody that you can have to
50:42
talk to that you know is like minded in that
50:45
openness, too. So, Socrates, you got anything
50:49
else to say? No, I had one question, but it was
50:53
a personal question. But before we get to that
50:56
last question. Did you have anything else to
50:58
say about it or your wisdom on, you know, telling
51:02
people to, you know, this is the way to go if
51:04
you're going to go to events like this or just
51:06
even in life? I mean, hey, there's no, hey, my
51:11
shit ain't mine. I ain't the golden rule, nothing
51:14
like that. So, hey, some people know how to flourish
51:18
when doing appointments, and that's just a thing.
51:21
They just angle on it, and that's what the fuck
51:23
they do. It works for you. If all means go that
51:27
way. But it's just a different perspective. I
51:29
mean, I hear a lot of people be talking about,
51:31
I got this appointment or I got this list. If
51:34
I don't do this, it's a failure and all that
51:36
type of shit. No, it's not. I mean, like, it
51:41
ain't got to be like that. So there's nothing
51:43
more than that for me. Well, I appreciate it.
51:45
I think I covered all the bases. Yeah, we did.
51:47
And, you know, I hope our listeners got something
51:50
out of that for sure. Write us, you know, we'd
51:52
love to hear from you. We love to hear some ideas
51:55
on episodes or stuff you want to talk about.
51:58
This is the Bull Brotherhood podcast, but we
52:00
want to talk about everything ethical, not monogamy
52:03
and relationships. So, you know, it's just our
52:06
perspective. Siren, did you have anything else
52:09
to add before I ask this personal question? No,
52:12
I just think definitely, you know, like one of
52:15
the tags that we need to have is like, I just
52:17
think of that. That three parts, if that helps
52:20
you, let me know. I would like to know if that
52:22
helps anyone else of the being where you want
52:25
to be with who you want to be doing what you
52:27
want to be doing, you know? And I think that
52:29
will, that will serve you well to make sure that
52:32
you're taking care of yourself too. That splash,
52:35
you know, a lot of people were talking about,
52:36
you know, making more time for rest, making more
52:39
time for chilling, you know? So, and knowing
52:43
that you'll be back again, you'll be back again.
52:46
That's it. Oh, thank you. Thank you. All right.
52:48
So here's my question. So, you know, like I say,
52:50
everyone else, everybody knows I love the Glory
52:52
Hill Room. So what do you think? So there's been
52:56
some times when some woman will, I mean, these,
53:00
you know, it's always amazing. And I'm so grateful
53:04
to these lovely women, no matter what, you know,
53:07
color, age, look, race, it doesn't matter. But
53:12
I want your... I want your opinion on it. So
53:15
sometimes I've, I've gotten, you know, some fellatio
53:18
from a lady and she wants to figure, see the
53:23
guy on the other side. Right. And I'll go clean
53:27
myself up and they'll be like, Hey, would you
53:29
like to play? And I'm like, Oh fuck. Because
53:32
she did an amazing job, but I am not attracted
53:34
to this woman. What, what do you think? What
53:38
do you think about that? Cause sometimes it was
53:41
like, I think it was Fort Lauderdale. I was like,
53:43
This woman did an amazing job. And I'm not sure
53:48
which one it was. Anyway, I was like, this woman
53:51
did an amazing job. And I'm not attracted to
53:54
her, but she deserved it. And I played with her,
53:56
and it turned out to be amazing. Right? I don't
53:59
advise anybody to do that. I'm not sure. But
54:01
I'm like, it turned out amazing. But it's a really
54:04
tough situation for me. I do advise that. What?
54:07
Because I've done that with guys. Yeah? I don't
54:10
know. It's like, I don't. I don't know. I want
54:13
to see what Goliath thinks about it because I'm
54:15
just like, I kind of feel obligated. I don't
54:17
want to play with you out of obligation, you
54:20
know, but you did an amazing job, you know? Okay.
54:23
Okay. So, okay. This is how we're going to go
54:26
with that one right there. So, I mean, me personally,
54:29
I love getting my dick sucked. Like, that's like,
54:32
if you suck a great dick, like, that shit can
54:35
take you so far in life in general. Amen, brother.
54:41
That shit is fucking masterful. So, for me, if
54:45
a woman sucked my dick good enough, but, okay,
54:48
time out, time out. So, it's a different situation.
54:50
So, it's a little bit different. Because you
54:52
don't know who the fuck it is. Right. And you
54:54
come back around, like, oh, it was her who sucked
54:56
my dick. Like, it's not my speed, but fuck, she
54:59
was sucking the fuck out of my dick. Right. Like,
55:01
and mine gets played that ticker, like, I wonder
55:05
what else she could do. Like, it's like... It's
55:08
like the whole concept of the fucking glory hole
55:10
to begin with, like the reverse glory hole for
55:11
ladies. The ladies don't know what the fuck they're
55:14
getting fucked by. They just know they're just
55:15
getting some dick. They come in there, they get
55:18
some dick. Some ladies will come out and be like,
55:20
okay, who's fucking me? And I'll point to this
55:23
guy over there, like, ain't no way that guy was
55:26
fucking me. I said, I would never fuck him in
55:27
a million years. I'm like, that was the one that
55:29
was giving you all that good dick. And they look
55:31
and they're like, damn, I missed it. I would
55:34
never gave him a chance. But it's... But they're
55:38
glad that it happened in the situation it did.
55:40
Right. Just like my situation. Same with the
55:44
dark room. Yeah. Yeah. Same with the dark room.
55:47
There was the best one in there was a guy when
55:49
I met him the next day. You know, I said, hey,
55:52
come find me. You know, I want to meet you. Then
55:55
he found me and I was like, this guy, no way.
55:59
You know what I mean? But he was the best one.
56:01
So it's like. Navigated as if you were blind.
56:05
You wouldn't know, you know? No, I mean, I did
56:08
that and it was amazing. She was great. And I'm
56:13
glad I did it. But I was like, I have had some
56:16
situations where I was like, but the only two
56:20
times I genuinely. needed to go like i genuinely
56:24
was like i'm in here too long i gotta go meet
56:27
my wife you know so it worked out for me but
56:30
i was like the next time i do that i'm just gonna
56:32
i'm i'm just gonna let it happen and i did and
56:35
i was glad i did it but i i wanted goliath's
56:37
tape on it and your take what's your take you
56:39
said the same thing yeah just i mean play as
56:42
if you as if you were blind like if you're feeling
56:45
great and you know everything about it it's like
56:49
in the dark room i i mean there was a bunch of
56:51
dudes that i was like you know why did it just
56:54
passed over but we had a great time you know
56:58
so but that just goes back to my sermon about
57:01
how i love an average dude like one of my favorite
57:04
play partners is like five five you know glasses
57:07
nerdy you know a lot of ladies just go oh yeah
57:11
he don't got muscles and he's not six six and
57:14
you know but he's a great time so I'm just like
57:17
hey if you don't you know some of these ladies
57:19
oh I passed this guy over because of this I said
57:21
well I'll take him I've had some great times
57:24
with with guys that that other ladies were passing
57:27
over for attraction reasons so I really try to
57:31
get in there and give them a shot I don't think
57:34
I've had too many. You know what? I was like,
57:37
I've said it before, too. I was like, there's
57:39
been a couple of guys that had stars in my eyes
57:42
for them. And then I played with them and I was
57:44
disappointed. So that's why I'm like, the attraction
57:47
ain't everything all the time. It's about that
57:50
vibe and that chemistry once you get going, you
57:53
know? Right. So. I mean, yeah. So I'll say this.
57:57
If somebody's sucking my dick, I've had it. In
58:02
my years of lifestyle where a woman was sucking
58:06
my dick so damn good, I'm like, shit, man, I'm
58:09
obligated to give you this damn dick. Like, I
58:11
want to give you this dick because you just made
58:12
my dick. Like, a throat goat is a fucking, guys
58:17
appreciate that shit so fucking much. Like, it's
58:21
just, I got to call me a throat goat tonight
58:23
the way I'm feeling right now because I want
58:25
my dick sucked. Like, that shit makes me feel
58:28
so good. Like, damn, now I got to give you some
58:30
extra good dick. Because the effort that you
58:33
just put in to suck on my dick or whatever. So
58:35
sometimes you may do that one -off that you're
58:40
like, I would never fuck you. But hey, come on.
58:43
You never know. You never know. So, well, we
58:47
have to flow right into our ending now. So we
58:50
appreciate you being on here. We'll put your
58:53
socials in the notes so that people can contact
58:56
you for the Magnum party and everything else
58:59
you've got going on. But we appreciate you being
59:01
on tonight. And I can't do all the sultry things
59:04
like Brian Morgan, but good night to everyone.
59:08
Thank you for listening. Good night, y 'all.
59:18
This is who we are. Confident and seductive.
59:23
Dominant and classy. We stand tall, never fall.
59:27
Bull brotherhood. Luxury untold.