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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 1-16-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: Papp It Friday, Everybody, Welcome to the Shaw O'Connell Show
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Speaker 2: on Utah's number one Sports Talk. Will we talk with
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Speaker 2: Bill Riley here in about half an hour. We always
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Speaker 2: look forward to that conversation.
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Speaker 3: At one point thirty, we're going to be airing our
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Speaker 3: grievances Tom Callahan for the Lockdown Utah Mammoth podcast at noon.
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Speaker 3: The Mammoth with an incredible win last night against the
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Speaker 3: number two team in the NHL. Also, interestingly enough, the
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Speaker 3: number two team in your own division, but the number
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Speaker 3: two team in the NHL. They survived a late onslought,
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Speaker 3: about five minutes of just hanging on after the two
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Speaker 3: to one advantage, and Dallas pulled the goaltender with over
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Speaker 3: two minutes left. I mean it was hot and heavy, guys,
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Speaker 3: having to continually clear it. Icing after icing after icing,
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Speaker 3: which meant face off after face off after face off.
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Speaker 2: On your own defensive end.
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Speaker 3: And thankfully the Utah Mammoth hang on for a big
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Speaker 3: victory as they continue what has been a really red hot,
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Speaker 3: dominant home stand and they're climbing back up more firmly
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Speaker 3: into that playoff picture with this stretch of hockey. And
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Speaker 3: again important because you're doing it without Logan Cooley in
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Speaker 3: the lineup. He has not on icey is no available
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Speaker 3: to you. Bear Attorney's done a good job of mixing
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Speaker 3: these lines around after that long road trip.
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Speaker 2: And look, let's be fair to Dallas.
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Speaker 3: Dallas was on the last day of a ten game
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Speaker 3: or excuse me, a ten day road trip, so you
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Speaker 3: probably didn't get the very very best Stanley Cup playoff
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Speaker 3: version of Dallas.
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Speaker 2: But doesn't matter.
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Speaker 3: No moral victories for them, no moral victories for any
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Speaker 3: pro athlete. Utah Mammoth get one two to one against
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Speaker 3: the Dallas Stars, a very very important win for the team,
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Speaker 3: a very very important win for the playoff standings and
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Speaker 3: staying strong in this home stand. Our show today and
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Speaker 2: Patrick and Michelle said yesterday on the show when they
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Speaker 2: joined us, that it was the Devils, but that anyway,
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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's a pardon me, it is a Red
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Speaker 2: so that's that's pretty cool. Whatever. If you're a hockey
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Speaker 2: fan or you're new to the sport, whenever an Original
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Speaker 2: six team comes to Utah, that's that's a big deal.
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Speaker 2: Whenever they go anywhere, that's a big deal in hockey.
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Speaker 2: So that'll be that'll be a fun matchup.
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Speaker 3: So we march closer and closer to a big college
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Speaker 3: football championship game on Monday night. You can hear it
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Speaker 3: right here on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one
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Speaker 3: FM NFL Playoffs this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Also on our stations.
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Speaker 3: Saturday and Sunday, you've got matchups in the one o'clock hour,
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Speaker 3: gonna dive into these. I'm gonna put poll questions up.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna help me pick the winners of all these games.
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Speaker 3: Not we're just going moneyline. We're going straight up. We're
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Speaker 3: not not betting against the spread here. Who is advancing Buffalo, Denver,
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Speaker 3: San Francisco, Seattle. That's the one that actually matters, Houston,
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Speaker 3: New England, and of course La Rams versus the Chicago
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Speaker 3: Bears trips to the AFC and NFC championship games on
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Speaker 3: the line.
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Speaker 2: The only game we won't have, there's four games this weekend.
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Speaker 2: The only one we won't have is is Bill's Broncos
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Speaker 2: because we've got we've got the women's games. Say Bill's Broncos. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: oh sorry, sorry, Like, hold on, did I say that wrong?
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Speaker 2: I thought you were alluding to Bill Riley, like Bill's
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Speaker 2: poservative Broncos that because he's coming up, you're gonna have
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Speaker 2: to do that when we have him on. Hey, you're
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Speaker 2: Broncos because he's a big Chiefs fan of the Buffalo
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Speaker 2: Bills versus the Broncos. It's the only game we're not
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Speaker 2: gonna have because we've got big, big day for Utah
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Speaker 2: basketball men and women both play at noon tomorrow OC
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Speaker 2: the Running Uts versus TCU. You have Rivalry Mountain West
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Speaker 2: rivalry game there at the Huntsman Center, and that's going
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Speaker 2: to be here on your home of the Utes. And
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Speaker 2: then on ninety two five to beat is the Utah
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Speaker 2: Women at Houston, So that conflicts with the Buffalo Bills
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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos game and not Bill Riley's Bills versus the Broncos.
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Speaker 2: But we have everything at all the other games, including
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Speaker 2: your Niners versus the Seahawks, so that should be a
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Speaker 2: fun weekend. The transfer portal closes today.
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Speaker 3: This is the end of the transfer portal window, the
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Speaker 3: first time it's been a single opportunity for players and
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Speaker 3: for teams to explore new possibilities in the transfer portal.
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Speaker 3: This thing's been open since the second We're here at
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Speaker 3: the sixteenth. If your name is not in by close
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Speaker 3: of business today, close of Transfer Portal business today, then
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Speaker 3: you're riding out the twenty twenty sixth season at your
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Speaker 3: current school. I've tried to figure out talking to people
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Speaker 3: up on the hill, talking to people, well person in provo,
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Speaker 3: how aggressive teams are right now with the tampering.
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Speaker 2: You only know one person in provo. I only know
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Speaker 2: one person in provo the whole community. I only was
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Speaker 2: able to get a hold of and talk with one
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Speaker 2: person about this that would have any kind of information
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Speaker 2: that would know what I'm even really asking. When it
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Speaker 2: comes to BYU, you just you don't really need a lot.
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Speaker 2: They didn't have to adjust a ton on a roster
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Speaker 2: that was really really good this year and a lot
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Speaker 2: of your best players, including the Big twelve offensive player
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Speaker 2: of the year LJ. Martin, he's elected to come back,
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Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeyer's coming back. Your most important guys, Isaiah Glasker
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Speaker 2: has eligibility left, and I don't think that the way
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Speaker 2: his season panned out, there was ever really going to
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Speaker 2: be a question whether he would come back or not.
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Speaker 2: But Glasger is back, and you just you're gonna do.
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Speaker 3: What you can if you're in provo to try and
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Speaker 3: maintain the roster and whatever that you had last year,
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Speaker 3: the success that you had last year, that was heavily
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Speaker 3: dependent on that roster. As you're losing one of the
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Speaker 3: most influential people in the program, Jay Hill to a
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Speaker 3: Michigan job, and you're losing Gennaro Guilford to other coaching
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Speaker 3: opportunities like you have to try to maintain the personnel,
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Speaker 3: and they've done an excellent job of that. As we've
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Speaker 3: talked about this week at the University of Utah. The
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Speaker 3: shakeup is a lot more profound.
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Speaker 2: All of you know, this.
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Speaker 3: Head coach, defensive ends coach, offensive staff gone, some of
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Speaker 3: the guys that committed to play as freshmen, for those
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Speaker 3: guys out, individuals who felt like maybe they had other
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Speaker 3: opportunities in the NFL already made their declarations. So there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of things that need to happen.
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Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, and when we get Morgan scally on we
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Speaker 3: can talk to him about this.
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Speaker 2: We'll ask him why JJ Buchanan bummer of a loss right.
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Speaker 3: A lot of the guys that you wanted to keep
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Speaker 3: and he didn't keep were defensive players, and the defensive
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Speaker 3: staff is pretty well intact. I think it shows you
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Speaker 3: how important Lewis Powell was with his relationships with some
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Speaker 3: players in particular. But this this transfer portal window, it's
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Speaker 3: the first for a lot of reasons. It's a first
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Speaker 3: for Utah because it is the first of a single window,
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Speaker 3: and it is the first where you're dealing with a
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Speaker 3: Morgan's scaley coach team and a new expectation and a
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Speaker 3: new culture, and I imagine a new or adjusted level
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Speaker 3: of nil commitment from your boosters, some of the same
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Speaker 3: big ones, some new ones, some old ones, whatever. There's
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Speaker 3: a lot of fresh perspective going on at the University
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Speaker 3: of Utah. And as the transfer portal window closes today,
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Speaker 3: I put a whole question out on the old tweet machine.
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Speaker 3: Is this a net neutral, a net positive, or a
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Speaker 3: net negative When we talk about it next fall, I
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Speaker 3: don't I want your predictive abilities here because right now
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Speaker 3: we have no idea. Because you know, someone's name does
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Speaker 3: not mean they're great or they're going to be great
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Speaker 3: because you know what's happening with a particular school like
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Speaker 3: San Jose State. Maybe you watch San Jose State a
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Speaker 3: lot of San Jose State Spartans football last year and
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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, well, we got some guys from there
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Speaker 3: because of the obvious mcgiven relationships, that's going to be
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Speaker 3: excellent for us. The feeling we had at this time,
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Speaker 3: I'm last year where you had a new coordinator coming in,
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Speaker 3: you had a new quarterback. This time you don't have
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Speaker 3: to deal with the new quarterback. You were watching New
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Speaker 3: Mexico film and trying to figure out how directly that
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Speaker 3: was going to translate to University of Utah Football trying
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Speaker 3: to prognosticate. I'm asking you to do the same thing today,
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Speaker 3: because there were plenty of you this time last year
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Speaker 3: who were looking at Devin Dampier Jason Beck and saying like,
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Speaker 3: I'm actually a little bit disappointed that that's what you
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Speaker 3: ended up with. Now, that didn't last very long. That sentiment,
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Speaker 3: that feeling, I don't think lasted very long. I didn't
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Speaker 3: even think for most people that lasted through camp. I
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Speaker 3: think that you got to hear a few things from
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Speaker 3: Devon dam Pier, You got to hear a few things
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Speaker 3: from camp. I think this year, knock on wood, fingers crossed, Morgan, please, please, please,
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Speaker 3: We'll actually get to see some things I believe in
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Speaker 3: springball and in camp from a practice perspective. But at
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, what I'm really asking you
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Speaker 3: for is your prediction on whether or not this was
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Speaker 3: a net neutral, a net gain, or we can be
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Speaker 3: realistic about it. In the first year of Morgan Scalley's tenure.
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Speaker 3: Is it a net loss for Utah football because you
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Speaker 3: lost John Henry Daily very very very difficult to replace.
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Speaker 3: You lost Tayo Johnson. I think you're fine. He lost
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Speaker 3: Smith Snowden. Some games it looked like that was a
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Speaker 3: big thing to replace. Other games, It's like, ah, what's
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Speaker 3: going on with Smith right now? You lost Dallas Vakalahi.
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Speaker 3: That's not somebody any of us wanted to see go.
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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna regret that decision. I don't wish
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Speaker 3: that upon him. I just when you read the tea
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Speaker 3: leaves of what Matt Campbell, who's a new head coach
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Speaker 3: at Penn State University, when you see what he has
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Speaker 3: done and his assistants have done with defensive lineman, I
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Speaker 3: just don't think that Dallas Vakaalahi, if it's a football decision,
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Speaker 3: is going to feel like he made the right football decision.
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Speaker 2: Jonah leya Aya again a bright talent.
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Speaker 3: But also if we're being realistic with ourselves, and I'm
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Speaker 3: doing my best to not just be an apologist and
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Speaker 3: a good ridden sky because I don't feel that way
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Speaker 3: about these players. But when you get a bunch of
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Speaker 3: runyard to racked up on you, one of the primary
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Speaker 3: things that you blame is your defensive tackles, your defensive lineman,
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Speaker 3: because either they're not stopping up the gaps or they're
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Speaker 3: not gobbling up the blocks so that your linebackers can
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Speaker 3: stop up the gaps and culpability for those bad rushing performances,
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Speaker 3: bad rush defense performances toward the end of the season
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Speaker 3: belongs to everybody on the defense. Coordinators, linebackers, everybody, right.
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Speaker 3: I think that most of us underestimated how valuable John
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Speaker 3: Henry Daly was in setting an edge and on being
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Speaker 3: a run defender, because we got all wrapped up in
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Speaker 3: his sack totals and his QB pressures.
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Speaker 2: Guy was just a monster no matter what the opposing
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Speaker 2: offense was doing. Right, So, in order to make it
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Speaker 2: a net neutral for just that one player, for example,
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Speaker 2: for John Henry Daily to be gone, and for you
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Speaker 2: to say, all right, well, it's not a net loss
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Speaker 2: for us at that position unless question mark unless what
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Speaker 2: and less well, unless you can't get for me. You
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Speaker 2: can't get the same number of sacks from however many
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Speaker 2: guys you brought in feeling like you were trying to
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Speaker 2: replace him. You're probably not gonna get it from one person.
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Speaker 3: You're probably not gonna have a guy who's second in
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Speaker 3: the conference, second in the nation.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you do, maybe you will.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's smart to try to rely on
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Speaker 3: one person to do those things. Then again, there were
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Speaker 3: only a select few of you, and I give you
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Speaker 3: credit those of you. When I said who's gonna be
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Speaker 3: your defensive MVP this year, who's gonna be your breakout
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Speaker 3: player this year?
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Speaker 2: Who's gonna be there were there.
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Speaker 3: Was a handful of you that said, it's gonna be Jht. Well,
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Speaker 3: you wouldn't have thought that watching his twenty twenty four season.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: Credit to him, credit to his coaches, credit to everyone
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Speaker 3: for getting that out of him.
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Speaker 2: How do you replace him? Have they done enough to
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Speaker 2: replace him? When I asked yesterday or two days ago,
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Speaker 2: I said, go ahead, and Tampa be the Utah GM
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Speaker 2: and find me something in this transfer portal, find me
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Speaker 2: something that's not yet in the transfer portal, and convince
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Speaker 2: them to jump into the transfer portal, and let's get
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Speaker 2: this guy. I said, what do you need? And defensive
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Speaker 2: end was one of the answers for people. So when
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Speaker 2: I'm asking you the question of.
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Speaker 3: Is this a net gain, a net neutral, or a
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Speaker 3: net loss, I'm not talking about production from last year.
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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about reputation. I'm not talking about name recognition.
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Speaker 3: I am talking about midway through the twenty twenty sixth season.
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Speaker 3: Give me your prediction. Are we going to look back
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Speaker 3: on it and say, that was the first time that
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Speaker 3: Utah's experienced a net loss in the transfer portal? Or hey,
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Speaker 3: we were really wringing our hands back in January. Turns
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Speaker 3: out this was a net game for us.
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Speaker 2: Maybe we'd be.
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Speaker 3: Even better if we had JHD Steel, or we'd be
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Speaker 3: even better if you had jonahle A. Still, but look
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Speaker 3: at these guys we brought in. Look at this kid
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Speaker 3: from San Jose State, Look at this Wyoming guy. Look
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Speaker 3: what our defensive line is now right. I'm asking you,
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Speaker 3: the listener, I'm asking you the Utah football fan. I'm
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Speaker 3: asking you the person who, over the last couple of
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Speaker 3: weeks has expressed a lot of angst, a lot of distaste,
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Speaker 3: a lot of displeasure for this environment.
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Speaker 2: How do you feel right now? I don't think we're
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Speaker 2: going to get any big breaking news that Utah loses
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Speaker 2: another big talent or that they gain another super prominent,
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Speaker 2: recognizable talent right now.
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Speaker 3: Twenty six percent of the respondents coming in with a
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Speaker 3: net positive, thirty two percent saying a net neutral. Forty
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Speaker 3: one percent of you say that this was a net
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Speaker 3: loss in the transfer portal. It will be judged next
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Speaker 3: season as a fill in the blank net positive net
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Speaker 3: neutral net loss. There's some names, you know, there's some
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Speaker 3: names you got to like. John Henry Daly is the
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Speaker 3: one for me that I'm just like, Oh that hurts man.
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Speaker 3: JJ Buchanan. I like the player, I really do. But
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Speaker 3: Brandon Pegan is a better version of JJ Buchanan. Now
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Speaker 3: he's not a younger version, he's not as young. So
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Speaker 3: if we were talking about this on like a three
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Speaker 3: or four year trajectory, obviously JJ Buchanan, you're like, let
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Speaker 3: me get that young guy, and JJ should make a
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Speaker 3: leap between his freshman year and his sophomore year.
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Speaker 2: So a leaping forward.
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Speaker 3: JJ Buchanan is going to be formidable in that Michigan Blue.
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Speaker 3: But you have a much more established product in the
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Speaker 3: guy coming down from Utah State and a guy that
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Speaker 3: knows this system, knows this coordinator and has similar, measurable,
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Speaker 3: similar physical attributes to JJ while also having doubled the production.
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Speaker 2: And don't you think, oh see, don't you think we've
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Speaker 2: gotten to the point where it's not even realistic to
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Speaker 2: be looking more than a year or two down the
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Speaker 2: road anyway, That's I think.
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Speaker 3: A very important thing, a very important point to make here.
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Speaker 3: I mean, thankfully they fixed the the window. Otherwise we'd
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Speaker 3: be going, Hey, dang, dude, I'm really glad we have
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Speaker 3: these guys until the end of spring ball.
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Speaker 2: Can't look past spring. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I saw someone I don't know who it is. If
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Speaker 3: you're listening right now, clever from you. I saw someone
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Speaker 3: tweet out yesterday which hypothetical wide receiver number one? Are
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Speaker 3: you more upset about losing Zach Williams who had ten
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Speaker 3: catches for one hundred yards when all of us were
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Speaker 3: crowning him as the next best thing for Utah football?
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Speaker 3: Or Celesimoa, who, of course has zero catches for zero
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Speaker 3: yards in college football?
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Speaker 2: How do you replace that production?
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Speaker 3: O'l see, And look, I'm not trying to downplay the
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Speaker 3: importance of stacking talent on your roster, I promise you
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Speaker 3: I'm not. But the panic reactions that are very natural
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Speaker 3: and very understandable are probably somewhat misplaced. And also these
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Speaker 3: are even if even if Utah does experience like forty
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Speaker 3: one percent of people are expecting a net loss in
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Speaker 3: this transfer portal class, a net loss of talent doesn't
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Speaker 3: mean the end of the world. A net loss doesn't
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Speaker 3: mean you end up having a miserable year next year.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it means that you're back to pass rush by committee.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it means that you know, Cash Dylan and Lance
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Speaker 3: Holtsklaw and whoever else are kind of evenly splitting those
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Speaker 3: QB pressures and those sacks. I don't want to expect that.
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Speaker 3: But prior to this year, when was the last time
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Speaker 3: that Utah had a double digit sack man?
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Speaker 2: It had been like four years, three four years. Jonah
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Speaker 2: ellis right, Yeah, So yeah, that's that's it, unless unless
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Speaker 2: the last Pectel championship year there was one two. But
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Speaker 2: I don't think there was twenty twenty two. There may
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Speaker 2: not have been. I think it was more of a
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Speaker 2: group effort kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: So again, it might not look the way we think
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Speaker 3: it's going to look. We're gonna have to learn some
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Speaker 3: new names. This is the nature of college football these days.
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Speaker 3: But I want you to weigh in on Twitter at
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Speaker 3: rialo C Sports. I want you to weigh in at
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Speaker 3: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred net
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Speaker 3: neutral and that loss net gain. Taylor Cram says, it'll
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Speaker 3: be a net game when looking back next year, and
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Speaker 3: that's what's so important. Ninety seven oh eight says i'd
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Speaker 3: say neutral or slightly below neutral. The potential is better,
21:33
Speaker 3: and that's that's interesting. I'd like to actually have you
21:37
Speaker 3: explain more when you mean the potential is better. Like
21:41
Speaker 3: I keep talking about how what a lost John Henry
21:43
Speaker 3: Dally is for twenty twenty six. I don't think John
21:46
Speaker 3: Henry Daley is much of a loss, because even if
21:49
Speaker 3: he was on your roster, I think his production was
21:51
Speaker 3: gonna be lost.
21:52
Speaker 2: And he and when you say, even when he's on,
21:55
Speaker 2: even if he's on your roster, even if he plays,
21:58
Speaker 2: But but I don't. I don't think he's gonna play.
22:00
Speaker 2: Oh see, I don't. I don't buy the we've said
22:03
Speaker 2: this before, we me and you, and I think many
22:06
Speaker 2: others don't buy the hey, I'm gonna be fully recovered
22:09
Speaker 2: from an acl or an achilles tear by spring football,
22:15
Speaker 2: let alone before the season starts. I don't. I don't
22:17
Speaker 2: think he's playing for for uh for you shall not
22:21
Speaker 2: be named program next year, I don't. I don't think so.
22:24
Speaker 2: So so it's it's more like the years afterward that
22:28
Speaker 2: that will really hurt, might really hurt for Utah football.
22:31
Speaker 2: But then by then, who knows, maybe Cash Dylan, maybe
22:34
Speaker 2: one of these other guys they got in the portal
22:36
Speaker 2: pops and and sticks around long enough to where you
22:40
Speaker 2: you don't forget JHD, but you don't worry about that anymore.
22:46
Speaker 2: I only go net neutral seventy nine fifty three says
22:49
Speaker 2: because I don't see JHD being healthy and performing the
22:52
Speaker 2: same next year. That's what like he He might be
22:56
Speaker 2: the crux of this whole question.
22:58
Speaker 3: If somehow, by a medical miracle, he is one hundred
23:01
Speaker 3: percent healthy and productive and gives Michigan fifteen sacks, We're
23:08
Speaker 3: gonna look and just be like, well, it's hard to
23:09
Speaker 3: say that it was a net positive when that guy
23:12
Speaker 3: had another All American year. I don't foresee that being
23:16
Speaker 3: a reality for Michigan. So maybe he's the crux of
23:19
Speaker 3: the whole conversation. Juan Soto says, we are about to
23:23
Speaker 3: enter another dark age of Utah football.
23:27
Speaker 2: Juan Soto of the Mets is a listener of the program. Apparently,
23:30
Speaker 2: so I knew we were big in Queens, but I
23:34
Speaker 2: didn't know Wan Soto would be twenty four to ninety
23:36
Speaker 2: four Juan Soto. That is the pessimist stance.
23:42
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pooh pooh you because there's a lot
23:44
Speaker 3: of uncertainty we don't know. I feel more confident in
23:48
Speaker 3: Morgan Scalley's abilities. I feel more confident in what we
23:52
Speaker 3: know of Jordan Gross's mastery of the game of football.
23:56
Speaker 3: I feel more confident because I have, I think a
23:59
Speaker 3: little bit deeper knowledge of what Colton Swan is capable
24:04
Speaker 3: of as the defensive coordinator. My best friend's younger brother
24:09
Speaker 3: was on those Weaber State playoff teams. I mean, he's
24:13
Speaker 3: like my own little brother. He's a guy I've known
24:15
Speaker 3: him literally since the day he came home from the
24:17
Speaker 3: hospital and he ended up having a great high school
24:21
Speaker 3: career and played at Weber State, and he was part
24:24
Speaker 3: of those teams.
24:24
Speaker 2: So I watched a lot of that Weber State football.
24:26
Speaker 3: When Colton Swan was the defensive coordinator, he did an
24:30
Speaker 3: excellent job. They had all American players at defensive end,
24:34
Speaker 3: at defensive tackle, at linebacker, and at defensive back while
24:39
Speaker 3: he was the defensive coordinator. Not all at the same time,
24:42
Speaker 3: but they had at least one of each. That's pretty
24:44
Speaker 3: darn impressive.
24:45
Speaker 2: It was jump now, I can't. Can't then blanking them
24:52
Speaker 2: named the Bills defensive back that's from Weaver State, Tarren Johnson.
24:55
Speaker 2: Was he on those defenses? I think he might have been.
25:00
Speaker 2: I believe he was. I just want to make sure.
25:03
Speaker 2: How long has he been in the league. I think
25:05
Speaker 2: it's been since twenty's seventeen, so he's twenty nine years old.
25:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he would have been part of those Colton
25:11
Speaker 3: Swan coordinated defense.
25:12
Speaker 2: That's it. That's a gigantic name. It's like him and
25:16
Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed that are the biggest names, the biggest names
25:19
Speaker 2: to come out of Weaver State. And that's a guy
25:22
Speaker 2: that Colton Swan coached, is the defensive coordinator. So that
25:25
Speaker 2: that alone should.
25:26
Speaker 3: Give you a lot of big sky Defensive Player of
25:29
Speaker 3: the Year by the way, in twenty seventeen. So yeah, look,
25:33
Speaker 3: I could it be another dark age if you tough football.
25:37
Speaker 3: If you're talking about a dark age, you're going back
25:40
Speaker 3: to like Jim Fossil, pre Jim Fossil, that's I think.
25:45
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not going to get on board with
25:47
Speaker 3: that now. If you're talking a dark age relative to
25:52
Speaker 3: consistent ten win seasons, constant conference championship contention.
25:59
Speaker 2: May I suppose you're I suppose that's if that's what
26:03
Speaker 2: how you look at the coach Mac years, even though
26:07
Speaker 2: he had he had twenty years where they were where
26:09
Speaker 2: they're in conference championship contention, then sure, maybe maybe you're
26:17
Speaker 2: maybe it could be back to early two thousands nineties
26:20
Speaker 2: Utah football. But I I that's that's dramatic for me.
26:23
Speaker 2: Oh see, I just I just don't see it being
26:26
Speaker 2: even that's not bad, by the way, but I don't
26:28
Speaker 2: see it being that much of aggression from what we've
26:31
Speaker 2: got from from what we had from the the most
26:33
Speaker 2: recent era. I guess it.
26:35
Speaker 3: I guess you have to if you really want to
26:37
Speaker 3: drill down on what's a dark age like the back
26:40
Speaker 3: to back five and seven seasons under you Shall not
26:43
Speaker 3: Be Named? Was that a dark age of Utah football
26:45
Speaker 3: or was that a transitional period that you had to
26:48
Speaker 3: grow into being a Pac twelve team.
26:50
Speaker 2: The I feel like it's too short of a time
26:53
Speaker 2: span to be in to say that's that was the
26:56
Speaker 2: dark age of recent dark age of Utah football. I'm
26:59
Speaker 2: with you, it's probably like, if we're being technical about it,
27:02
Speaker 2: it's probably pre Coach Mac that was really the last
27:05
Speaker 2: the Dark Age of Utah football. Listen, you're not going
27:08
Speaker 2: that far back.
27:09
Speaker 3: If you go that far back, it is an abject
27:13
Speaker 3: failure of leadership on every level at the University of Utah.
27:18
Speaker 3: That's not going to be allowed anymore. There are too
27:22
Speaker 3: many people with influence, right, Like, let's say, and again
27:26
Speaker 3: this is a rank hypothetical, but let's say to entertain
27:31
Speaker 3: the possibility that Morgan Scalley is drastically overwhelmed, which you
27:36
Speaker 3: won't be for like four years. You think they're just
27:40
Speaker 3: gonna ride it out and let it continue. No, they're
27:44
Speaker 3: gonna say, morganna go back to being the defensive coordinator.
27:46
Speaker 3: We're gonna do something else here. It's just that's not
27:51
Speaker 3: going to happen. There's not a Dark Age is not
27:53
Speaker 3: coming now. Are there gonna be a six Is there
27:56
Speaker 3: gonna be a six and six season? Is it gonna
27:58
Speaker 3: be a seven to five season?
27:59
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be a five and seven seasons somewhere
28:01
Speaker 2: along the way maybe potentially?
28:05
Speaker 3: Will it be continuous? Will it be sustained? I just
28:10
Speaker 3: can't buy it. I will not buy it. I don't
28:11
Speaker 3: believe it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna let you have
28:16
Speaker 3: your space to say your negative prediction, but I'm not
28:19
Speaker 3: gonna believe it with you.
28:22
Speaker 2: Ninety seven oh eight. This is a nice one, all right.
28:24
Speaker 3: I think there's a higher upside with the interior d
28:26
Speaker 3: line and stopping the run better in the all around defense.
28:29
Speaker 3: Losing jhd's sacks hurts, but the Achilles kind of equals
28:34
Speaker 3: it all out.
28:35
Speaker 2: Snowedent tail reached their ceiling.
28:36
Speaker 3: The incoming guys could blossom better, who knows, but it's
28:40
Speaker 3: hard to replace that. I'll take the proven wide receivers
28:43
Speaker 3: coming in over Buchanan's potential. When you just look at
28:49
Speaker 3: your familiarity with the names, you go, oh, this is
28:51
Speaker 3: a net loss.
28:52
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no.
28:54
Speaker 3: When you drill down a little bit further and you say, okay,
28:57
Speaker 3: but what did what did you bring in? What did Morgan,
29:01
Speaker 3: Scalley and company bring in? And I'm a believer in
29:04
Speaker 3: not on direct translation of effectiveness, but if you're a
29:09
Speaker 3: really good player at the group of five level, you're
29:12
Speaker 3: gonna be a good player at the power flow level. Right,
29:17
Speaker 3: Look no further than Devin Dampierre who and this is
29:20
Speaker 3: the best point that's coming in what elevates Utah's ceiling
29:25
Speaker 3: more than anything else is the fact that Devin Dampier
29:31
Speaker 3: being healthier next year, and even in a tragic situation
29:35
Speaker 3: where he is not having Bird Ficklin on the roster
29:39
Speaker 3: to go to just in case, that is the ceiling
29:43
Speaker 3: or the floor for Utah football, It'll be those two
29:46
Speaker 3: guys more than anything that's set where Utah football is at. Yes,
29:51
Speaker 3: this is a program built on defense, run, stopping running
29:54
Speaker 3: the ball itself. But the years that Utah football has
29:59
Speaker 3: been great, it has not been because of that culture
30:04
Speaker 3: and reputation. It's been because of the culture and reputation
30:08
Speaker 3: being accessorized with what great quarterback play. You can have
30:15
Speaker 3: a really good season if you have great quarterback play
30:17
Speaker 3: and everything else is just average. Look no further than
30:21
Speaker 3: Colorado last year, not this year. Last year Chadoor and
30:27
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter, Right, they had two really really good college
30:31
Speaker 3: football players. They had like five pretty solid two well,
30:37
Speaker 3: Jordan Seaton is more than pretty solid.
30:38
Speaker 2: So they had three really really good good players, good
30:42
Speaker 2: receiving cord and outside of that not a whole. So
30:46
Speaker 2: you had Chadoor, some really good receivers, one elite, elite
30:50
Speaker 2: elite receiver. Yeah, and then you had like kind of
30:53
Speaker 2: meh everywhere else, right, and you still were a solid
30:57
Speaker 2: team that put kept themselves in the conversation for a
31:01
Speaker 2: conference championship. And look, were they as successful as Utah
31:05
Speaker 2: wants to be? No?
31:08
Speaker 3: Is that anything close to being a dark age? Absolutely
31:12
Speaker 3: not now with those guys left, yikes. But them's the breaks.
31:17
Speaker 2: Okay, gotta take a break here because I want to
31:20
Speaker 2: get Bill Riley's thoughts. Bill Riley, the Voice of the Utes,
31:23
Speaker 2: is gonna join us.
31:24
Speaker 3: We'll ask him about this net neutral net gain, net
31:26
Speaker 3: positive net whatever, and we'll get it into some hoops
31:31
Speaker 3: talk with Bill, because he's on those games as well.
31:34
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31:44
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32:01
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32:03
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32:04
Speaker 3: Utes, Bill Riley, kind enough to join us here on
32:07
Speaker 3: a Friday.
32:08
Speaker 2: Welcome Bill, how are you.
32:10
Speaker 4: Oh see, it is great to talk to you. What's
32:13
Speaker 4: going on?
32:13
Speaker 3: You know, we're just processing or we're not actually processing anything.
32:18
Speaker 3: We're predicting how we're going to be processing this transfer
32:21
Speaker 3: portal as the window comes to a close today, and
32:24
Speaker 3: you know, Morgan Scaley embarks on this new job as
32:27
Speaker 3: the head coach instead of the defensive coordinator, and he
32:30
Speaker 3: finalizes what the roster is gonna look like for next year.
32:34
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember how we felt this time last year,
32:38
Speaker 3: and of course there was another spring window that affected things,
32:41
Speaker 3: but trying to remember where we were at with like, okay,
32:44
Speaker 3: is this is this team better than it was?
32:46
Speaker 2: Did you replace everything that you needed to replace? Et cetera,
32:49
Speaker 2: et cetera.
32:50
Speaker 3: And obviously this has been a tumultuous time for Utah football.
32:53
Speaker 3: But the question is out there net gain, net loss,
32:56
Speaker 3: net neutral when we look back, like halfway through I'll say,
33:00
Speaker 3: halfway through the twenty twenty sixth season, how are we
33:02
Speaker 3: going to evaluate the way that this transfer portal window
33:05
Speaker 3: worked out for Utah.
33:07
Speaker 4: Let me start with this first, and then I'll answer
33:10
Speaker 4: your question or at least attempt to give a thought
33:13
Speaker 4: on it. What I still don't understand why the transfer
33:18
Speaker 4: window is in early January. Don't get that. Why not
33:23
Speaker 4: just make it in May. Make it the first week
33:26
Speaker 4: of May, the first two weeks of May. Make these
33:29
Speaker 4: kids commit to a school for a full year. You'll
33:33
Speaker 4: still have summer, You'll still have fall camp. There's just
33:37
Speaker 4: so much chaos. I know that, But I mean, if
33:40
Speaker 4: we're really and truly still going to call these kids
33:42
Speaker 4: student athletes and they're going to school, you know most
33:45
Speaker 4: school starts back in early January. Let them go to
33:49
Speaker 4: a school. There's nothing going to be lost. You don't
33:52
Speaker 4: have to be in spring for another you can get
33:53
Speaker 4: You can get there in May and June and do
33:57
Speaker 4: workouts and then go to fall camp and still be
33:59
Speaker 4: in hackful Player. There's just way too much chaos going
34:03
Speaker 4: on with this right now. I'm all for kids going
34:06
Speaker 4: to play where they want to play. I'm okay with
34:08
Speaker 4: the transfer portal to an extent, but why we have
34:11
Speaker 4: it in January and not just do it a one
34:14
Speaker 4: time in May. Make them stay in school, make them focus.
34:18
Speaker 4: You're still working out with your football team, doing all
34:21
Speaker 4: that stuff, and then after you've completed a full year
34:23
Speaker 4: of school, whether it's fall and then spring then you
34:27
Speaker 4: can look ahead. It just it makes zero sense to
34:31
Speaker 4: have this thing in early January and not do it
34:34
Speaker 4: in late April or May Bill.
34:36
Speaker 2: I agree with you wholeheartedly.
34:38
Speaker 3: I made the same point when it was announced that
34:40
Speaker 3: it was going to be this January window, and I
34:43
Speaker 3: was like flummoxed. When the coaches convention where they kind
34:47
Speaker 3: of decided what proposal to put forward, the coaches themselves
34:52
Speaker 3: were like, no, we want it to be this window
34:55
Speaker 3: instead of a post springball window.
34:57
Speaker 2: It's like, why would they want that?
34:58
Speaker 3: And it's funny because now there's a lot of coaches
35:00
Speaker 3: complaining about the fact that this is when the window
35:03
Speaker 3: is happening. So I guess it's to be careful what
35:05
Speaker 3: you wish for a situation for some of those guys.
35:09
Speaker 3: One thing that gives me solace and comfort is if
35:12
Speaker 3: we get to a situation where this spring summer the
35:16
Speaker 3: coaches gather again and talk and are just like, you
35:18
Speaker 3: know what, that actually kind of sucked having to figure
35:21
Speaker 3: it all out in that New year's Christmas breaks.
35:26
Speaker 2: Let's reevaluate this thing. Now. College sports have been a
35:30
Speaker 2: lot more nimble in just adopting new policies like with
35:34
Speaker 2: this singular window, like with an expanded college football playoffs.
35:38
Speaker 2: So if it's determined by the people who actually are affected,
35:42
Speaker 2: they will end up changing it quickly.
35:45
Speaker 4: And I get it. Some of these kids, you know,
35:47
Speaker 4: their coaches lead, they go to other jobs. They're not
35:50
Speaker 4: that's okay, nobody's saying you cannot transfer, but doing a
35:55
Speaker 4: mid year thing, I mean, some of these kids are
35:57
Speaker 4: going to be enrolling in class semester is already be got.
36:00
Speaker 4: I just it makes zero sense if you want to
36:03
Speaker 4: follow your coach to his new destination. You guys can
36:06
Speaker 4: talk offline, you can go through spring football, you can
36:10
Speaker 4: do a lot of things. You can have more meaningful
36:13
Speaker 4: meetings with the coaching staff that you're currently playing for
36:16
Speaker 4: or a new coaching staff coming. And nothing is preventing
36:20
Speaker 4: these kids from being able to transfer. It's just that
36:23
Speaker 4: it's chaos. It's chaos for the kids, it's chaos for
36:27
Speaker 4: the programs. It's just general chaos. And I just think
36:30
Speaker 4: a lot of that can be cleared up if you
36:32
Speaker 4: make it in late April early May. Hey, we're in
36:37
Speaker 4: a we're in a society, sean where everything has got
36:40
Speaker 4: to be immediate gratification. It does not have to be
36:43
Speaker 4: immediate gratification. These kids can still get to where they
36:47
Speaker 4: want to be, but it just doesn't have to be
36:49
Speaker 4: right now. It can be later, and then you might
36:52
Speaker 4: be able to make a more i don't know, a
36:56
Speaker 4: more honest, a more clarified decision on where you're going
37:00
Speaker 4: one and what your future is and not get caught
37:02
Speaker 4: up in the emotions of the moment by letting some
37:05
Speaker 4: time go by. So that's that's my soapbox for now.
37:09
Speaker 4: I just I don't mind the portal. Just tweak the
37:13
Speaker 4: portal a little bit, and I think it could be
37:15
Speaker 4: good for both sides. Anyway. The question again was.
37:20
Speaker 3: When we look back on it halfway through next year,
37:23
Speaker 3: are we gonna say, oh, yeah, we panicked for no reason.
37:26
Speaker 3: This was at least a net neutral or maybe even
37:28
Speaker 3: a net positive, Or we'll be looking back on and saying,
37:31
Speaker 3: all right, Morgan's got some work to do this coming
37:34
Speaker 3: January in the transfer portal to make sure that we
37:37
Speaker 3: get this roster back to where it needs to be.
37:39
Speaker 3: Will we will we be judging positively or negatively what
37:41
Speaker 3: has happened so far?
37:43
Speaker 4: I'm going to say for now, I'm gonna go net
37:46
Speaker 4: neutral for now and I say that and that that
37:50
Speaker 4: sounds like I'm copping out just a little bit. But
37:52
Speaker 4: the portal, the portal closes today, but that just means
37:56
Speaker 4: you can't enter in the portal. There's still a couple
37:59
Speaker 4: of thousand kids in there, and I don't think that
38:02
Speaker 4: Morgan and his staff. I think you're going to see
38:04
Speaker 4: more names added to this Utah roster in the coming weeks.
38:09
Speaker 4: That's just my guess. Today's portal closing just simply means
38:13
Speaker 4: you can't put unless you're a graduate transfer, you can't
38:16
Speaker 4: put your name in. If you're a freshman or a sophomore,
38:18
Speaker 4: a junior, you can't go into portal after today. So
38:23
Speaker 4: I still think there's going to be something. I want
38:24
Speaker 4: to let it play out a little bit, but I
38:27
Speaker 4: just think it's too soon to know. You know, there
38:30
Speaker 4: have been certainly names that have left the program that
38:32
Speaker 4: have apparently committed to other programs, and I get that,
38:36
Speaker 4: And there's been names that have come in. I like
38:38
Speaker 4: some of the names that I've seen that have come in.
38:41
Speaker 4: I think the biggest portal news for Utah is the
38:45
Speaker 4: return of not one, but two quarterbacks. You have a
38:48
Speaker 4: guy and I said this on my podcast, by the way,
38:50
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38:57
Speaker 4: to some of that. But I think returning Devon Dampierre,
39:01
Speaker 4: who was the Big Twelve Newcomer of the Year and
39:04
Speaker 4: the third team All Conference quarterback Sean, I think they've
39:08
Speaker 4: built some nice pieces around him and have some nice
39:11
Speaker 4: pieces coming back, and I think there's a very good
39:15
Speaker 4: chance if Devin makes the kind of progress maybe it's
39:17
Speaker 4: not as big as it was from New Mexico to
39:19
Speaker 4: Utah year one, but even if he makes incremental progress,
39:23
Speaker 4: he's going to be a close to a three thousand
39:25
Speaker 4: yard passer and close to one thousand yard runner again,
39:29
Speaker 4: and his interceptions are down. But there's no reason in
39:32
Speaker 4: the world Devon shouldn't be in the running, if not
39:34
Speaker 4: the favorite, to be the Conference quarterback of the Year
39:36
Speaker 4: next year based on what he's got surrounding him. So
39:40
Speaker 4: that and having Bird Fickland there is not only just
39:43
Speaker 4: an insurance policy, but Bird's going to be I figure
39:45
Speaker 4: Kevin mcgiven is going to find a way to work
39:48
Speaker 4: him in. I think the offense has a chance to
39:52
Speaker 4: be actually better next year than it is than it
39:56
Speaker 4: was this year, and it was really good this year.
39:58
Speaker 4: I don't know if they'll run for as many yards
40:01
Speaker 4: as they did next year, we'll see. That offensive line
40:03
Speaker 4: was unbelievable. I mean, it was an NFL offensive line.
40:07
Speaker 4: And I think Jordan Gross is gonna be a good coach.
40:09
Speaker 4: He'll fill in nicely for Jim Harding, But you know,
40:12
Speaker 4: it's hard to replace two NFL tackles. I think all
40:15
Speaker 4: five of those guys have a chance to be on
40:17
Speaker 4: NFL rosters next year. But I think that there's enough
40:20
Speaker 4: in the program and enough coming in to know that
40:23
Speaker 4: Utah's offensive line, at worse next year will be good.
40:27
Speaker 4: At best could be really good again. So I think
40:29
Speaker 4: the offense is good. And on the defensive side, yeah,
40:32
Speaker 4: there were some key losses, some guys that might hurt
40:35
Speaker 4: a little bit, some guys that may have out kind
40:37
Speaker 4: of you know, kind of run their course in the system.
40:41
Speaker 4: Haven't been as many big names coming back in in
40:44
Speaker 4: the portal right now. But the thing about Utah on
40:47
Speaker 4: defense is that's where you've really always seen that great
40:50
Speaker 4: development over the years. Defensive line, linebackers, secondary guys. It's
40:55
Speaker 4: what the head coach is fort is I heard you
40:58
Speaker 4: talking about Colton Swan. I'm so happy for Colton to
41:02
Speaker 4: get this opportunity. Really excited to have Derek Odom, who's
41:06
Speaker 4: been a defensive coordinator for a number of years, come
41:09
Speaker 4: back to his alma mater and coach the position that
41:13
Speaker 4: he coached when he was here the first time. Guys
41:15
Speaker 4: like Eric Weddell and Steve Tate and Casey Evans were
41:18
Speaker 4: playing for Derek Odom. So I'm going to go net
41:23
Speaker 4: neutral for now. But I don't think some of the
41:26
Speaker 4: losses that we've seen in the portal for right now
41:29
Speaker 4: might be as big as we think they are. I
41:31
Speaker 4: think we kind of get caught up in the emotion
41:33
Speaker 4: of the moment. I don't know if some of those
41:36
Speaker 4: guys are going to be as impactful at their next
41:39
Speaker 4: stop as they were at Utah. You know what I mean?
41:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. For the sake
41:45
Speaker 2: of time, I want to switch things to basketball here, because, Okay,
41:49
Speaker 2: you had a big rivalry game right where I think
41:51
Speaker 2: Alex Jensen's crew accounted pretty well for themselves against a
41:54
Speaker 2: stacked Cougar's roster. Ultimately they come up short, and you
41:58
Speaker 2: know it's not good enough, and then I don't know
42:01
Speaker 2: if that performance there was fatigue associated when you went
42:04
Speaker 2: and you took on another really, really good Texas Tech team.
42:08
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's a nasty little one two week
42:12
Speaker 2: stretch they had even leading up to the BYU game
42:15
Speaker 2: and then finishing it with Texas Tech. And that's just
42:17
Speaker 2: the nature of things in Big twelve play. Winless so
42:20
Speaker 2: far in Big twelve Play, But is this team making
42:24
Speaker 2: the incremental progress? Are you seeing the things that you
42:27
Speaker 2: need to see because you're closer to it than any
42:29
Speaker 2: of us are that that makes you feel like Alex
42:32
Speaker 2: Jensen's going to get this figured out sooner than later.
42:35
Speaker 4: Well, three of the first four games were against top
42:37
Speaker 4: fifteen teams and the best team in the country. I
42:40
Speaker 4: think Arizona is the best team with the fewest flaws,
42:44
Speaker 4: if any in the country, and Texas Tech and BYU
42:47
Speaker 4: are both Final four caliber teams. I'm not saying they'll
42:50
Speaker 4: be there, but they've got the horses that they could
42:53
Speaker 4: get there. That's tough. Tomorrow's TCU at noontime. Then you've
42:58
Speaker 4: got Kansas State. There are wins on the schedule, but
43:01
Speaker 4: for Utah to win this year, yeah, you ask a question.
43:04
Speaker 4: Is there an incremental progress, Yes, but you know they're
43:08
Speaker 4: still making some of the mistakes they've kind of made
43:10
Speaker 4: in some of these big games, and you've got to
43:12
Speaker 4: kind of clean those up. You make those mistakes against
43:16
Speaker 4: the number one, the number nine, and the number fifteen
43:18
Speaker 4: team in the country, those teams can really punish you.
43:22
Speaker 4: You clean up some of those, and then you get
43:25
Speaker 4: into stretches against you know, teams that are good but
43:28
Speaker 4: maybe not elite, or teams that are middle of the pack,
43:31
Speaker 4: then you've got some chance to stack some wins. I
43:34
Speaker 4: am seeing progress where I really like to see the progress.
43:37
Speaker 4: Sean is with some of these younger guys Oba Mante,
43:40
Speaker 4: Abby Kendall Sanders, two guys that are freshmen that they
43:43
Speaker 4: didn't really think would play huge roles this year are
43:46
Speaker 4: turning out to be really good players. You know, Terrence Brown,
43:49
Speaker 4: Don McHenry, good scorers. They're going to continue to do
43:52
Speaker 4: some of that stuff. But yes, some of the stuff.
43:55
Speaker 4: You can really see the improvement from week one to
43:57
Speaker 4: where we are now. But to be really good in
44:00
Speaker 4: the big twelve, you've got to eliminate those little mistakes
44:04
Speaker 4: in those small stretches. Utah was twenty four to twenty
44:08
Speaker 4: three on the road at Tech the other night, which
44:10
Speaker 4: was a great atmosphere. They made a couple of small mistakes,
44:14
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's an eighteen to one run
44:17
Speaker 4: and they're down. Those are the things you can't have
44:20
Speaker 4: happen home or road against good teams in the Big twelve.
44:24
Speaker 3: Bill Riley for another minute or two here on the
44:26
Speaker 3: Shot O'Connell show, talking all things Utah Athletics. So you've
44:30
Speaker 3: got a Utah football program that is in a state
44:35
Speaker 3: of change and flux. You've got a basketball program that
44:39
Speaker 3: is now embarking on its first season after a change.
44:43
Speaker 3: You've got a women's basketball program that's doing pretty well.
44:46
Speaker 3: Red Rocks are going to be what the Red Rocks
44:48
Speaker 3: are going to be. And now you've got this private
44:52
Speaker 3: equity thing that was a huge story when it launched,
44:54
Speaker 3: and all of us are kind of like waiting and
44:57
Speaker 3: looking to see what kind of effect it's going to
45:00
Speaker 3: have on the programs and on the university and things
45:04
Speaker 3: like that. How soon do you think it is before
45:07
Speaker 3: people can tell and see the fruits of those labors.
45:12
Speaker 4: I that I don't know, Sean. I think they're in
45:15
Speaker 4: the works of finalite. You know, I'm not I'm not
45:18
Speaker 4: at that level of meeting. I think they're in the
45:22
Speaker 4: process of finalizing the deal, and I think once they
45:26
Speaker 4: finalize the deal, then I think you'll begin to see
45:29
Speaker 4: more of a timeline as to when, you know, Otrow
45:33
Speaker 4: and the university become kind of partners, when it's on campus,
45:37
Speaker 4: when it gets rolled out. So I think, and from
45:40
Speaker 4: you know, some of the information that I've been told,
45:43
Speaker 4: I think January, where we're at right now, and we're
45:46
Speaker 4: midway through January, was the month that they were looking
45:49
Speaker 4: to work out the details and finalize the deal. And
45:52
Speaker 4: then I think after that's done, I think we begin
45:54
Speaker 4: to see some of the some of the more, you know,
45:57
Speaker 4: more intricate stuff on how the inner work of it
46:00
Speaker 4: will work and how it will roll out coming after that.
46:03
Speaker 4: So I obviously it'll probably be by summer or fall
46:06
Speaker 4: for sure, but I think once the deals finalize, more
46:10
Speaker 4: details probably come out.
46:12
Speaker 2: Which NFL teams are emerging victorious this weekend.
46:17
Speaker 4: Well, Sadly, for the first time in more than a decade,
46:21
Speaker 4: I do not have a team to root for in
46:23
Speaker 4: the playoffs this year. I'm not complaining. I will be
46:27
Speaker 4: just fine. My rule of thumb is you're not allowed
46:30
Speaker 4: to complain about your team within five years of a
46:34
Speaker 4: Super Bowl win. Well, I had three in five years,
46:37
Speaker 4: so I can't complain for like the rest of my
46:39
Speaker 4: life about anything Kansas City related.
46:43
Speaker 3: Multiple super Bowls they reset your complaining clock. Like Philip
46:46
Speaker 3: Rivers coming out of retirement, you know what I mean,
46:48
Speaker 3: Like he's pushed.
46:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to look at it this way. Bronco
46:58
Speaker 4: fans are gonna think I'm hating on the Broncos because
47:00
Speaker 4: I'm a Chiefs fan. They have an outstanding defense that
47:04
Speaker 4: didn't play great down the stretch. I don't fully trust
47:09
Speaker 4: Bo Nicks, and I think if Josh Allen is ever
47:13
Speaker 4: ever going to have an opportunity to win a Super Bowl,
47:16
Speaker 4: it's this year with no Mahomes, no Burrow, no Lamar
47:20
Speaker 4: Jackson in his way right now. So I'm gonna say
47:24
Speaker 4: Buffalo pulls an upset. I think your Bang Bang Niner
47:28
Speaker 4: gang probably run into a little bit of a brick
47:31
Speaker 4: wall against the Twelfth Man tomorrow. But I think what
47:34
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan did this year with the Niners has been phenomenal.
47:38
Speaker 1: Boy.
47:38
Speaker 4: The game that it's hard for me with is this
47:41
Speaker 4: Houston New England game, because the Houston offense stinks. CJ.
47:45
Speaker 4: Stroud has gone backwards. They stink, but their defense is
47:51
Speaker 4: like nine eighty six Bears ninety nine Ravens level defense.
47:57
Speaker 4: But I like Brabel and I like Drake May. I
48:00
Speaker 4: think that's like a ten to seven game in New England.
48:03
Speaker 4: And then I think the Rams and the Bears run
48:06
Speaker 4: because I think Stafford and He's got his healthy team,
48:10
Speaker 4: and I think the Bears have been a fun story
48:12
Speaker 4: and they're a great great but I think the luck
48:15
Speaker 4: kind of runs out this weekend. So I'm the one
48:18
Speaker 4: big upset I'm picking is Buffalo at Denver, and then
48:21
Speaker 4: I think I take the home teams after that, all right,
48:23
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the two home teams and then the Rams
48:25
Speaker 4: on the road.
48:27
Speaker 2: That's Bill Riley.
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Speaker 2: Bill, thanks for your time. Talk to you soon.
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Speaker 4: Thanks, Shan, talk to you soon.
49:20
Speaker 2: Bill Riley, voice of the Utes Hot Lunch is next
49:25
Speaker 2: on the Sean o'conn Show. It's Utah is number one
49:26
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49:47
Speaker 1: Get tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
49:50
Speaker 1: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred at ninety two one FM.
49:58
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why I'm off the Hot Locke.
50:00
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why I love Big Willies and
50:01
Speaker 2: the incredible craft food menu they've got at seventeen seventeen
50:05
Speaker 2: South Main Street in Salt Lake City. Yesterday Patrick and
50:10
Speaker 2: Michelle brought in the big Willy Berger, which is just unbelievable.
50:16
Speaker 2: You heard him.
50:17
Speaker 3: When they make the patties, they chop up bacon and
50:21
Speaker 3: define little bits and they work it into the ground beef.
50:24
Speaker 3: So your patty actually has little bacon bits inside of it,
50:27
Speaker 3: which is.
50:28
Speaker 2: Just that's a win.
50:30
Speaker 3: And they also brought in there tachos, tater tot nachos,
50:33
Speaker 3: it's the best way to describe them, taco seasoned ground beef,
50:37
Speaker 3: refried beans, picodagayo, jalapenos, and instead of being on top
50:45
Speaker 3: of tortilla chips, on top of tater tots, excellent little salca,
50:51
Speaker 3: little sour cream.
50:52
Speaker 2: You got yourself a win.
50:53
Speaker 3: But you know, Patrick realizes, I know, oh see, I
50:59
Speaker 3: know Sean Connell, and he ate way too much in
51:01
Speaker 3: the hot lunch yesterday.
51:03
Speaker 2: So today I'm gonna send him a nice little salad.
51:05
Speaker 3: The crispy Cobb salad is what they brought us. Excellent
51:10
Speaker 3: perfectly cooked bacon, chicken cutlet chopped into exactly correct bite
51:15
Speaker 3: sized pieces, blue cheese crumbles, tomato, hard boiled egg chopped
51:20
Speaker 3: up again into perfectly crumbled, bite sized pieces, and you've
51:24
Speaker 3: got yourself a nice little salad, especially with the housemaid
51:27
Speaker 3: ranch or the blue cheese, whichever you want, over the
51:30
Speaker 3: top of it. An excellent, excellent Friday meal, because if
51:33
Speaker 3: you're like me, you're gonna go a little bit too
51:35
Speaker 3: ham sandwich on these NFL playoff games this weekend, I'm
51:40
Speaker 3: gonna be eating way too much.
51:42
Speaker 2: I already have the Tomahawk.
51:43
Speaker 3: Steak, James, I've already got my plans on the reverse seer.
51:47
Speaker 3: I know exactly what my internal temperature is gonna look like,
51:51
Speaker 3: and I am gonna go nuts on that thing.
51:53
Speaker 2: Are you? Uh? How do you? How do you like
51:57
Speaker 2: your steak? Is it rare? Okay?
51:59
Speaker 3: I like my steak? I guess that I like it.
52:02
Speaker 3: A medium rare is also great. I just don't overcook
52:05
Speaker 3: the steak. If your steak is is medium, it's overcooked.
52:09
Speaker 3: In my opinion. Medium rare is totally fine. I prefer rare,
52:13
Speaker 3: and those big thick Tomahawk cuts they're a lot easier
52:16
Speaker 3: to make rare.
52:17
Speaker 2: Because obviously they're so huge.
52:21
Speaker 3: So I'm a big fan and I'm very much looking
52:23
Speaker 3: forward to that that little Palmersan mashed potato over the weekend.
52:27
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great one. By slow weekend plan,
52:30
Speaker 2: setting up a nice Friday hot lunch with the Cobb
52:34
Speaker 2: salad and perfect thing to talk about during the hot lunch.
52:38
Speaker 2: As we dive deeper and deeper into the legend of
52:41
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti, the man who is I think gonna coach
52:49
Speaker 2: Indiana to their first ever football national championship and complete
52:53
Speaker 2: probably the greatest story we've seen in college and maybe
52:57
Speaker 2: American sports. I don't know what the time span since
53:02
Speaker 2: like the miracle team that beat the Russians, I don't know.
53:06
Speaker 2: I mean, it's huge. This is massive if Indiana can
53:09
Speaker 2: pull this thing off. Kurt Signetti is. And you find
53:14
Speaker 2: this out about coaches, and you find this out about
53:16
Speaker 2: like the billionaire CEOs of certain companies, they are very,
53:21
Speaker 2: very very dedicated to the craft in such a way
53:24
Speaker 2: that things the rest of us care about just go away.
53:29
Speaker 2: Like what do you want to eat?
53:30
Speaker 3: Coach Kurt Signetti orders the same Chipotle burrito bowl every
53:37
Speaker 3: single lunch, every single day. He estimated over five hundred
53:44
Speaker 3: times he has had exactly this thing. Chipotle burrito bowl,
53:50
Speaker 3: rice beans, chickens, side of guac. That's a call. That's
53:55
Speaker 3: a good call. Rice beans, chickens side of guac. It's simple,
54:01
Speaker 3: it's effective, it's nutrient dense, it's not excessively fatty. You're
54:06
Speaker 3: not gonna feel heavy, you're not gonna be burping up
54:08
Speaker 3: while you're trying to talk to your team. You're not
54:11
Speaker 3: gonna get any kind of gas stric distress. Well, he
54:13
Speaker 3: might never know, but these guys that are at like,
54:19
Speaker 3: I mean this, Mark Zuckerberg, I wear the same clothes
54:22
Speaker 3: for the you know, ten years kind of thing.
54:24
Speaker 2: It's so fascinating to me. I actually kind of admire
54:28
Speaker 2: the clothing thing. If you just have the same.
54:32
Speaker 3: Outfit over and over on rotation, and you eliminate the
54:35
Speaker 3: difficulty of that, that's fine, that's cool.
54:37
Speaker 2: I like that. Hey, he doesn't have time to be
54:39
Speaker 2: thinking about the clothes he's wearing. He's gonna be thinking
54:41
Speaker 2: about innovating at the tech and social social networking.
54:46
Speaker 3: And guess what, now he's like a testosterone jiu jitsu bro.
54:51
Speaker 3: So he now is back to wearing varied clothing and
54:55
Speaker 3: he's all in on AI.
54:57
Speaker 2: So he didn't have to think about anything anymore. You're
54:59
Speaker 2: just letting the machines for him. There you go, But
55:01
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti more AI talk on the Sean O'Connell show.
55:05
Speaker 2: After yesterday, this I cannot understand. I cannot understand being
55:09
Speaker 2: just like I don't care what I eat.
55:11
Speaker 3: Just give me that thing over and over and over again,
55:15
Speaker 3: like you have access, Kurt Signetti. I know that the
55:18
Speaker 3: athlete's kitchen at the University of Indiana is up to
55:21
Speaker 3: par with everyone else now in the nation.
55:23
Speaker 2: I know that without being told. So one day you say,
55:29
Speaker 2: surprise me, give me a steak. How would you like,
55:32
Speaker 2: a coach medium, rare or reder whatever, give me a
55:36
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Blue in the middle. I don't care what do
55:40
Speaker 2: you want today, Coach, I don't know what's the chef making.
55:43
Speaker 2: You don't even have to give him a Chipotle order.
55:45
Speaker 2: You just say, bring in whatever they give me. You're
55:50
Speaker 2: eating Chipotle every day instead. I can't understand this. I mean,
55:55
Speaker 2: the mood is the thing I will not compromise on, James.
55:58
Speaker 2: They must be a Jike, a Tick, sponsor of the
56:01
Speaker 2: program or something. They're gonna be now, they're gonna be that.
56:05
Speaker 2: They just got free commercials on every sports station in
56:08
Speaker 2: the world, including the Pat McAfee show went Ours, which
56:12
Speaker 2: you arguably is bigger than Pat McAfee By the way,
56:15
Speaker 2: speaking of speaking of Pat McAfee, did you see the
56:18
Speaker 2: relay they were doing while you were talking to Bill.
56:20
Speaker 2: I was one of the the second guy who ran
56:25
Speaker 2: is he arms flailing. He looked like he had never
56:28
Speaker 2: run before in his life. He looked like he was
56:30
Speaker 2: gonna fall over like five different times. Somehow he stayed
56:34
Speaker 2: up right. That was incredible, And then the guy after
56:36
Speaker 2: him sprinted the whole way. I'm like, do you guys
56:39
Speaker 2: know how relay works? That's your anchor right there.
56:42
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, when we as a country have
56:45
Speaker 3: to stop showing complete non athletes running on television, jumping
56:51
Speaker 3: on television, because our enemies are out there all right.
56:56
Speaker 3: There's like some Russian cabal, there's some like deep state Chinese.
57:00
Speaker 2: In North Korean.
57:02
Speaker 3: You probably have talked to some of these, and these
57:04
Speaker 3: people are just like, we don't have to be scared
57:07
Speaker 3: of Americans anymore.
57:08
Speaker 2: Look what they look, how they run, It is so terrible.
57:12
Speaker 2: Did you see white tank top guy in the Pat
57:15
Speaker 2: McAfee show relay? In my head, I kept reading your
57:19
Speaker 2: replay it's relay. You're some like Siberian hard ass, and
57:25
Speaker 2: he's just like, We'll never worry about the Medica. You'll
57:27
Speaker 2: see how these men run. I'm not scared of America. Like,
57:32
Speaker 2: you cannot show people that this is the that anyone
57:35
Speaker 2: in our country has that level of coordination and fitness.
57:40
Speaker 2: America's place on the global stage was secured for the
57:44
Speaker 2: longest time with what James military strength, athletic dominance, Olympics.
57:50
Speaker 2: Who has the most gold medals? Oh it's the Americans again,
57:53
Speaker 2: what a shock. And people projected that because you didn't
57:58
Speaker 2: have shows like this, right, the only television people were
58:01
Speaker 2: watching in these other countries were the Olympics or the news,
58:05
Speaker 2: where like the Navy Seals were doing something cool and
58:08
Speaker 2: they're just like, man, these Americans, they are just built different.
58:12
Speaker 2: Can't mess with those guys. Now, we have too much
58:15
Speaker 2: of this, I agree with you.
58:16
Speaker 3: Now you got these guys that have never sprinted before
58:20
Speaker 3: in their life, They've never done anything more than a
58:22
Speaker 3: brisk walk. Being given a platform to run on air,
58:25
Speaker 3: I'm out, don't do it anymore.
58:28
Speaker 2: By the way, the course that which was just a
58:31
Speaker 2: straight line, but the end of the course is a
58:33
Speaker 2: little precarious with the little with the little dip at
58:36
Speaker 2: the end, and I'm like, that's I would not run that.
58:39
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, James, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
58:43
Speaker 3: You've you've called that a little bit precarious, like a
58:46
Speaker 3: three degree incline with a four foot elevation game.
58:51
Speaker 2: I'm saying, when you're doing a replay again, when you're
58:55
Speaker 2: doing a relay, you expected, you expect the flat ground
58:59
Speaker 2: like that.
59:00
Speaker 3: Every child on the planet can make that run no problem.
59:04
Speaker 3: And then these guys stopped running after age twelve. Don't
59:07
Speaker 3: put them on television, all right?
59:09
Speaker 2: Early grievance, thank yeah, apparently against the trackafee.
59:13
Speaker 3: We got an hour and twenty five minutes till we
59:15
Speaker 3: allow you to air your grievances.
59:16
Speaker 2: You can bring them in on the text line whenever
59:18
Speaker 2: you like. Eight seven seven three five three zero seven
59:20
Speaker 2: hundred one point thirty is when we're going to read them.
59:24
Speaker 3: We'll jump into the Mammoth. Huge win for the Mammoth
59:27
Speaker 3: last night, as I already mentioned. We'll get into that
59:30
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59:33
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59:36
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59:37
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59:53
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Speaker 3: Which one of those is gonna be where the four
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Speaker 2: ESPN the Fan, that's right, and the only we won't
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Speaker 2: have one of the broadcasts because we've got Utah men's
1:00:36
Speaker 2: and women's basketball going on the same time during that game.
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Speaker 2: That's the Bills versus the Broncos, not Bill Riley's Broncos.
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Speaker 3: The most importantly, Saturday six pm, Seahawks Niners, you can
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Speaker 3: And interestingly enough, Sam Darnold has been downgraded to questionable.
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Speaker 2: Now. Look he's gonna play, but a new oblique injury
1:01:05
Speaker 2: the week of a very important game. He said he
1:01:09
Speaker 2: felt a little something while he was throwing routes on air.
1:01:12
Speaker 3: Nobody touched him, all right, just seven on seven, actually
1:01:19
Speaker 3: routes on air. It's not even seven on seven. He's
1:01:22
Speaker 3: just throwing the ball and he tweaked his oblique. The
1:01:26
Speaker 3: thing about this these core muscles, right, You hear people
1:01:29
Speaker 3: with the hernia situations, you hear the core muscles, you
1:01:32
Speaker 3: hear obliques. I'm sure they'll shoot him up with whatever
1:01:36
Speaker 3: he needs to be shut up with. But there's nothing
1:01:40
Speaker 3: you can do on a football field. There's no movement
1:01:42
Speaker 3: that doesn't feel that. I'm sure he'll be fine. I promise.
1:01:49
Speaker 2: I'm not crossing my fingers that he's less than one
1:01:51
Speaker 2: hundred percent just so my Niners have a better shot
1:01:53
Speaker 2: of winning. But is what it is. It's gotta make
1:01:59
Speaker 2: you feel a little bit better. The idea that someone
1:02:03
Speaker 2: on the Seahawks is going to be less than one
1:02:05
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Well, you've got so many guys missing on
1:02:08
Speaker 2: the Niners this year, though, But yeah, of course you're
1:02:11
Speaker 2: not rooting for it.
1:02:13
Speaker 3: Donald was asked, what's the percentage of you thinking you
1:02:16
Speaker 3: won't play? He said, probably closer to zero. So he's
1:02:20
Speaker 3: gonna play. The backups are Drew Locke and then Jalen Milroe.
1:02:25
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe, former Bama quarterback. Yeah, he He and Calen
1:02:31
Speaker 3: Divoris whitched places. That's interesting. Despite my biggest hopes, Fred
1:02:36
Speaker 3: Warner is out versus the Seahawks. There he has not
1:02:40
Speaker 3: checked all the necessary boxes. They're not gonna be able
1:02:42
Speaker 3: to get him back. Great, he's out there practicing. Yeah,
1:02:47
Speaker 3: the captain energy, that kind of thing. That's that's important.
1:02:50
Speaker 3: It doesn't have a concrete effect on the game itself, obviously,
1:02:53
Speaker 3: but if you can get to next week, then there's
1:02:56
Speaker 3: a much more realistic possibility that he could be out
1:02:58
Speaker 3: there playing. It's gonna be uh, it's gonna be a
1:03:01
Speaker 3: tough game for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
1:03:04
Speaker 2: The most interesting thing about how about him out there practicing.
1:03:08
Speaker 2: He's practicing in a lead bowl to protect himself from
1:03:13
Speaker 2: the power station that he should be a friend is
1:03:17
Speaker 2: not able to move. The mobility is pretty pretty heavily
1:03:21
Speaker 2: affected right now because you'll notice he's wearing an entire
1:03:23
Speaker 2: lead suit. It's gonna make him faster for game time.
1:03:27
Speaker 2: You know that that apron they put on you when
1:03:29
Speaker 2: they're like at the Dennis when they're gonna do the
1:03:31
Speaker 2: X rays on your teeth. It's just that but pants shirt,
1:03:38
Speaker 2: one of those helmet covers. It's not the it's not
1:03:41
Speaker 2: the the caprice shorts NFL pants thing. It's actually all
1:03:47
Speaker 2: the way down to the ankle.
1:03:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta well, especially when you're talking about ankle injuries.
1:03:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that that of course was is not true.
1:03:56
Speaker 2: If for anyone who who believed that, No, it is, Okay,
1:03:59
Speaker 2: I want to if you're silly enough to think so,
1:04:03
Speaker 2: you like you're picking your Niners. Of course, Look I
1:04:06
Speaker 2: can't for the Niners. That's like my that's my team
1:04:10
Speaker 2: in all sports. That's the team I have shown the
1:04:12
Speaker 2: most inconsistent interest with from my childhood. So I can't
1:04:17
Speaker 2: pick with my head. When it comes to the San
1:04:18
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine. They're in it. You pick with your
1:04:21
Speaker 2: You pick your team, even if at all signs might
1:04:24
Speaker 2: point to them being the inferior team. For whatever reason,
1:04:27
Speaker 2: You pick your team if they're in it.
1:04:29
Speaker 3: They're the biggest underdogs of the weekend, seven point dogs
1:04:32
Speaker 3: to Seattle in Seattle, So yeah, does it suck?
1:04:37
Speaker 2: Maybe? Or maybe it's a great upset story because somehow
1:04:42
Speaker 2: they've gotten to this point and they've been without Fred Warner.
1:04:46
Speaker 2: They've been without Nick Bosa, They've been without Trent Williams
1:04:49
Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, they were without Brock Purty
1:04:52
Speaker 2: for half the dang season, and they've been without Ayuk
1:04:55
Speaker 2: the whole year for pretty much. They it's kind of
1:04:59
Speaker 2: like what we're talking about with Utah football kittles out
1:05:02
Speaker 2: now now and some of the next season. It's kind
1:05:05
Speaker 2: of like what we're talking about with the Utah football equation,
1:05:08
Speaker 2: where the names you know are going to be good
1:05:12
Speaker 2: have moved on in the transfer portal, some of them right,
1:05:17
Speaker 2: and what comes back is a little bit less certain.
1:05:20
Speaker 2: With the San Francisco forty nine Ers, they've been relying
1:05:23
Speaker 2: on guys that you didn't you didn't think you would
1:05:27
Speaker 2: have to rely on, and yet here they are. Now.
1:05:31
Speaker 3: They had the trump card of Christian McCaffrey being one
1:05:35
Speaker 3: of the best overall football players in the NFL, and
1:05:39
Speaker 3: he's gotten them scratching and clawing and doing whatever's necessary
1:05:44
Speaker 3: to this point, somewhat on his own in certain games.
1:05:48
Speaker 3: But the twelve and five San Francisco forty nine ers
1:05:52
Speaker 3: team upset the Eagles last week, and now they've got
1:05:56
Speaker 3: the Seahawks that is your late game on Saturday.
1:06:00
Speaker 2: I just to give my pick out here. I I'm
1:06:04
Speaker 2: believing in the Niners magic, even though I'm with you,
1:06:08
Speaker 2: not and not because they're my favorite team like in
1:06:11
Speaker 2: your case, but I just I'm gonna pick them until
1:06:14
Speaker 2: they lose. And maybe I won't pick them in the
1:06:16
Speaker 2: Super Bowl if they get if they somehow get that far.
1:06:19
Speaker 2: But in the end in the NFC, I'm gonna pick
1:06:22
Speaker 2: them until they lose because they just keep defying the odds.
1:06:25
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan has proven to be that good of a
1:06:28
Speaker 2: coach as well. Do you realize he's not just I
1:06:31
Speaker 2: didn't know. I didn't realize this part. He's seven and
1:06:35
Speaker 2: oh in his forty nine ers head coaching career in
1:06:39
Speaker 2: the wild card round, he's also seven and oh in
1:06:42
Speaker 2: the divisional round. They have when the Niners have been
1:06:45
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, they've made the NFC Championship Game, and
1:06:48
Speaker 2: with how they've did not, they've defied the odds so far.
1:06:52
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna stick with them until until they lose
1:06:56
Speaker 2: in the NFC. I like that, until there's a re
1:07:00
Speaker 2: in not to believe, We're gonna believe. San Francisco forty
1:07:03
Speaker 2: nine Ers upset and.
1:07:04
Speaker 3: Advance, and that means our guy, Chad, sales guy Chad
1:07:08
Speaker 3: has to put go Niners in his email signature and
1:07:13
Speaker 3: he's gonna send me.
1:07:13
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make him send every one of our listeners
1:07:15
Speaker 2: an email. So text us your emails so we can
1:07:19
Speaker 2: do that. Actually, I don't want our text line to
1:07:22
Speaker 2: be flooding.
1:07:23
Speaker 3: By the way, We've got fifteen minutes until we air
1:07:25
Speaker 3: our grievances here on The Sean O'Connell Show as we
1:07:28
Speaker 3: continue to go through a huge weekend in NFL Football
1:07:32
Speaker 3: Divisional playoff round the game that we're not able to
1:07:36
Speaker 3: give you because we're the home of the Utes and
1:07:38
Speaker 3: we've got men's and women's basketball broadcasts on, but obviously
1:07:42
Speaker 3: we're gonna be watching these games.
1:07:43
Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking about these games on Monday.
1:07:46
Speaker 3: And this is I think the one with the most
1:07:50
Speaker 3: local interest because the Broncos are kind of the long
1:07:53
Speaker 3: standing de facto homeish team for Salt Lake City, and
1:07:57
Speaker 3: then the Bills have the Ute intro on there. Broncos
1:08:02
Speaker 3: have a ton of that too little Weaver State interest
1:08:05
Speaker 3: as well. So even though there's probably not a ton
1:08:08
Speaker 3: of Bills fans for the sake of being Bills fans
1:08:10
Speaker 3: and very few Buffalo New York connections because the Buffalo
1:08:15
Speaker 3: Bills have had have right now and have had recently
1:08:19
Speaker 3: a lot of uts. I think that probably helps the
1:08:21
Speaker 3: Bills when it comes to the interest. Denver is a
1:08:25
Speaker 3: one and a half point favorite coming off the buy,
1:08:27
Speaker 3: and of course the Bills narrowly escaped against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
1:08:33
Speaker 3: This one is on CBS and Paramount Plus. It's a
1:08:36
Speaker 3: two thirty Mountain Time kick and I think you know
1:08:39
Speaker 3: what again, pick with your heart not your head.
1:08:44
Speaker 2: I think that the Broncos, even though there's a bunch
1:08:47
Speaker 2: of dudes that have not done it before on that team,
1:08:50
Speaker 2: and even though there's a lot of people who are like, well,
1:08:51
Speaker 2: if not now, when for the Bills, I think never
1:08:55
Speaker 2: is the answer to that question.
1:08:56
Speaker 3: You're just a hater. I'm not a hater. I'm not
1:09:00
Speaker 3: aker either. I do want to see Cole Bishop have success.
1:09:04
Speaker 3: Dalton Kinkaid is one of my favorite guys that has
1:09:05
Speaker 3: come through the Utah program recently. But man, this Broncos
1:09:10
Speaker 3: team's got a bunch more utes even than the Bills do.
1:09:13
Speaker 3: And weirdly enough, I guess This is the ruboff that
1:09:20
Speaker 3: happens when you're with a you do radio with an
1:09:22
Speaker 3: Oregon duck, the bon Knicks thing, following bo Nix's career
1:09:25
Speaker 3: so closely, and seeing how many people doubted that bo
1:09:28
Speaker 3: Nicks was gonna be any good at Oregon after what
1:09:31
Speaker 3: happened to Auburn, and then seeing people doubt what bo
1:09:33
Speaker 3: Nicks was going to be able to do as an
1:09:35
Speaker 3: NFL quarterback, and seeing our guy Garrett Bowles stick through
1:09:39
Speaker 3: like some really really really lean years with the Broncos
1:09:43
Speaker 3: to now be one of the highest paid, most respected
1:09:45
Speaker 3: offensive linemen in the NFL and to have this opportunity.
1:09:50
Speaker 3: Weirdly enough, I'm kind of sentimental and hoping that the
1:09:53
Speaker 3: Broncos can do this.
1:09:55
Speaker 2: Yes see, I am sentimental and hoping for the opposite team.
1:10:00
Speaker 2: I really like Josh Allen and he's one of those
1:10:03
Speaker 2: that's like, for me, he's too good to go throughout
1:10:08
Speaker 2: his career and not win something, not even at least
1:10:12
Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl, if not win a championship.
1:10:14
Speaker 2: So I'm pulling. I pull really hard for Josh Allen
1:10:17
Speaker 2: and these Bills and I and I really like Dalton
1:10:19
Speaker 2: Kincaid and Cole Bishop of course. So and of course
1:10:22
Speaker 2: my wife has adopted the Bills. She loves Josh as
1:10:25
Speaker 2: well as she calls him. So I'm I pull for
1:10:30
Speaker 2: the Bills hard for the reasons you're saying you're pulling
1:10:32
Speaker 2: for the Broncos hard. Here and I heard this on
1:10:37
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen. He started the Rich Eisen Show ten to
1:10:39
Speaker 2: eleven now here on ESPN seven hundred ninety TWOEFM. Right
1:10:42
Speaker 2: before this show, he started out with just giving a
1:10:46
Speaker 2: laundry list of great stats and facts about each of
1:10:50
Speaker 2: these teams, each of the teams that are remaining. And
1:10:53
Speaker 2: one of the things that he brought up about the
1:10:56
Speaker 2: Broncos and and what the Bills are facing. So this
1:11:00
Speaker 2: is back to back weeks, they're facing a top two
1:11:04
Speaker 2: pass rush in the NFL. So the Jags, apparently according
1:11:08
Speaker 2: to Rich Eisen and whatever statistical service he was using,
1:11:11
Speaker 2: the Jags have the number one pass rush in the NFL.
1:11:14
Speaker 2: Broncos have the number two pass rush in the NFL.
1:11:17
Speaker 2: It's been since since nineteen seventy four that a road
1:11:21
Speaker 2: team has won in the playoffs back back to back
1:11:26
Speaker 2: facing number one and then number two pass rush in
1:11:29
Speaker 2: the league. So that's the kind of odds that the
1:11:32
Speaker 2: Bills are going up against the history of the Bills
1:11:36
Speaker 2: are going up against in this. And if I'm the
1:11:38
Speaker 2: Bills and I'm Sean McDermott and I'm Josh Allen in particular,
1:11:43
Speaker 2: I'm going it doesn't matter that we're on the road.
1:11:48
Speaker 2: Do you know there's no one in this There's no
1:11:50
Speaker 2: one in the playoffs that has the experience that we
1:11:53
Speaker 2: have in the AFC side of things, and there's no
1:11:56
Speaker 2: one as talented as they should believe that they're more
1:11:59
Speaker 2: talented than everybody else as well. So I if this,
1:12:02
Speaker 2: if the Bills lose, no disrespect to the Broncos, this
1:12:04
Speaker 2: would feel like a massive failure for them. And I
1:12:09
Speaker 2: mean Weddell joined us yesterday and he said, I they
1:12:12
Speaker 2: have to get it done at some point, like yeah,
1:12:15
Speaker 2: being but that is the curse of the Buffalo Bills, right,
1:12:19
Speaker 2: You get to them and you don't win them.
1:12:20
Speaker 3: You get to you get to compete for, but you
1:12:23
Speaker 3: don't win. And that we all know what that's like
1:12:25
Speaker 3: here in Salt Lake City. To be that fan base
1:12:28
Speaker 3: that is respectable and good, you would trade it all
1:12:32
Speaker 3: for one championship year.
1:12:35
Speaker 2: I know.
1:12:35
Speaker 3: Bill was Bill Riley when he joined us today. He
1:12:37
Speaker 3: was mostly being facetious, but he's like, you got if
1:12:39
Speaker 3: you win multiple Super Bowls, you don't get to complain
1:12:42
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life. But it's kind of true,
1:12:46
Speaker 3: right if you get to have like a dynastic type run,
1:12:50
Speaker 3: if you get to win even one championship, but certainly
1:12:52
Speaker 3: if you win multiple. I'm looking at Warriors highlights here
1:12:56
Speaker 3: on the on the screen in front of me. Nobody
1:12:59
Speaker 3: in the b gets to complain about basketball ever. Again, like,
1:13:03
Speaker 3: not my generation, not the younger generation, not the older
1:13:05
Speaker 3: generation that followed the we Believe Warriors and gave them
1:13:09
Speaker 3: great support before what Steve Kerr and Steph and Draymond
1:13:14
Speaker 3: and Klay Thompson and Kevin Durant temporarily did. Like you
1:13:18
Speaker 3: have to just be like, wow, what a wonderful thing
1:13:20
Speaker 3: for me to experience in my life. For the Bills fan,
1:13:23
Speaker 3: for the Jazz fan, for the fan that is just like, man,
1:13:27
Speaker 3: we're almost there all the time. It is excruciating, and
1:13:34
Speaker 3: I imagine winters in Buffalo are excruciating enough.
1:13:37
Speaker 4: But.
1:13:40
Speaker 3: They're gonna have another one because the Broncos are going
1:13:42
Speaker 3: to advance, all right, I got, I got the other
1:13:45
Speaker 3: side of things.
1:13:46
Speaker 2: I got the Bills winning again, even though I would
1:13:49
Speaker 2: not be surprised if they fall again because we've just
1:13:51
Speaker 2: seen that happen over and over again. As you outlined, all.
1:13:54
Speaker 3: Right, Pats Texans New England is a three point favorite here.
1:13:59
Speaker 2: This one's gonna be literally cold. If I'm not mistaken.
1:14:03
Speaker 2: The Texans are their really interesting takeaway team. Can they
1:14:07
Speaker 2: rattle Drake May and end up making really I think
1:14:13
Speaker 2: the defensive plays necessary because offensively, and you heard what
1:14:17
Speaker 2: I'll talk about this also, Stroud is not going the
1:14:20
Speaker 2: right direction right now. The offense is not going the
1:14:22
Speaker 2: right direction right now. Houston is incredibly reliant on the
1:14:27
Speaker 2: defense to make the plays necessary to keep them in
1:14:29
Speaker 2: games and even to score points for him in a
1:14:32
Speaker 2: nasty cold weather game. I'd probably want to lean on
1:14:35
Speaker 2: my defense anyway, But geez, I just have a hard
1:14:39
Speaker 2: time buying into what the Texans are producing at this moment. Yeah,
1:14:44
Speaker 2: so this is the game that and it was the
1:14:47
Speaker 2: Texans game against the Steelers too, back to back weeks.
1:14:52
Speaker 2: I find myself really wanting the Texans to win because
1:14:57
Speaker 2: I'm a Buckeyes fan. CJ. Shrouds, the quarterback Kate Stowe
1:15:00
Speaker 2: Over is also a Buck guy, A nice connection for
1:15:03
Speaker 2: him at tight End. You got, you got those those connections.
1:15:08
Speaker 2: For me, I want to root for the Texans despite
1:15:10
Speaker 2: being a Colts fan there and their division rival too.
1:15:13
Speaker 2: I want to root for them, and I will. In
1:15:16
Speaker 2: this case, I found myself not rooting for them against
1:15:19
Speaker 2: the Steelers because I want because I wanted the Bills
1:15:22
Speaker 2: to to get through the AFC more and the Steelers
1:15:24
Speaker 2: are obviously a much, a vastly inferior opponent to the Texans.
1:15:30
Speaker 2: I'm gonna root for the Texans this week, but for
1:15:32
Speaker 2: back to back weeks, I'm not sure I believe enough
1:15:37
Speaker 2: in them to get this done for the I mean,
1:15:39
Speaker 2: Stroud does not look like himself, does not look like
1:15:43
Speaker 2: he really hasn't looked the same since his incredible rookie year. Right,
1:15:46
Speaker 2: it's worse this year than last year. Even so, I did.
1:15:50
Speaker 2: As good as that defense is. This is on the road,
1:15:53
Speaker 2: they they play in Houston inside, and I just I'm
1:15:58
Speaker 2: not sure I believe even that great of a defense
1:16:01
Speaker 2: can go into cold weather like they're going to face
1:16:04
Speaker 2: in New England. And I'm a Patriots hater like a
1:16:07
Speaker 2: lot of people. That's another reason why I'm pulling for
1:16:10
Speaker 2: the Texans this week, but I hate to say it.
1:16:12
Speaker 2: I think Patriots gonna pull this one out. Rams bears
1:16:19
Speaker 2: a lot of the year. Most of the year, I
1:16:21
Speaker 2: would say, people looked at the La Rams and said,
1:16:24
Speaker 2: no one's gonna beat them.
1:16:25
Speaker 3: That's a super Bowl team again. Sean McVay is an
1:16:27
Speaker 3: incredible coach and play caller. Matt Stafford is such an
1:16:32
Speaker 3: experienced guy. He's seasoned, and he's got the support around him.
1:16:37
Speaker 3: He's got the talent, he's got a lot of people
1:16:39
Speaker 3: think the best young wide receiver in the league, maybe
1:16:41
Speaker 3: the best overall wide receiver in the league, a guy
1:16:43
Speaker 3: with obvious local connections here in Pukinakua, and the Rams.
1:16:50
Speaker 2: Sort of, I won't say, back their way in. But
1:16:54
Speaker 2: they didn't necessarily end up as dominant as mid season
1:17:00
Speaker 2: four would have suggested. It took them a couple of weeks,
1:17:03
Speaker 2: or it took them. It took them a little while,
1:17:07
Speaker 2: like into week five before they started to really look
1:17:09
Speaker 2: like the team that they ended up becoming. Mid season
1:17:11
Speaker 2: it was like, oh my gosh, what are you gonna
1:17:13
Speaker 2: do against the squad? Then the Niners beat them, and
1:17:16
Speaker 2: then they they kind of They've won their last two games,
1:17:19
Speaker 2: and they won their last regular season game against the Texans,
1:17:22
Speaker 2: which now we know is a more impressive win than
1:17:24
Speaker 2: maybe I was giving it credit for at the time.
1:17:27
Speaker 2: But this Rams team, I don't know how we've seen
1:17:31
Speaker 2: the best version of them yet. I don't know that
1:17:33
Speaker 2: this particular iteration of the Rams, now that we're in
1:17:37
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and now that it's like a half veteran
1:17:41
Speaker 2: squad half young squad, that the veterans side doesn't come
1:17:43
Speaker 2: out and say, all right, this is how you have
1:17:45
Speaker 2: to prepare, this is what you have to do. This
1:17:48
Speaker 2: is where the playoff wins are different than the regular
1:17:51
Speaker 2: season wins. This is what we've been waiting for all
1:17:53
Speaker 2: season long. We had a great season, but now it's
1:17:56
Speaker 2: time for us to show that we are the most
1:17:58
Speaker 2: dominant team in the NFL. You have the potential, especially
1:18:01
Speaker 2: in our passing game, to be, you know, even better
1:18:04
Speaker 2: than we've been. And that's where the Rams scare me.
1:18:08
Speaker 2: The Bears do not. I am not threatened by the Bears.
1:18:11
Speaker 2: I know they feel a little bit ahead of schedule.
1:18:14
Speaker 2: I know people love the marriage between this coaching staff
1:18:18
Speaker 2: and Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams is enough of a
1:18:21
Speaker 2: problem from an off script performance standpoint that he's probably
1:18:26
Speaker 2: gonna make a couple of plays in this game that
1:18:28
Speaker 2: keep the Bears closer than they belong. But to me,
1:18:31
Speaker 2: this just feels like the easiest pick of the weekend
1:18:33
Speaker 2: that it's going to be a Rams victory, which is
1:18:36
Speaker 2: probably why I'll be wrong. Yeah, I like the Rams
1:18:40
Speaker 2: in this game, although my heart is kind of pulling
1:18:43
Speaker 2: for the Bears just because I think they're a great story.
1:18:45
Speaker 2: It's been a really long time since the Bears have
1:18:48
Speaker 2: looked this formidable. I just Caleb Williams has been shaky
1:18:53
Speaker 2: enough that even though he turns it out, he's been
1:18:57
Speaker 2: able to turn it on really well in the fourth quarter.
1:19:00
Speaker 2: So many fourth quarter comebacks, including last week. I just
1:19:03
Speaker 2: I think that that's that's something that could come back
1:19:06
Speaker 2: to bite them if the Rams get up by a
1:19:09
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns. I don't think they're the team that
1:19:13
Speaker 2: these Bears and Caleb Williams can come back against. That
1:19:19
Speaker 2: being said, like their defense has been so good to
1:19:22
Speaker 2: get at getting takeaways. If that's if that's the kind
1:19:25
Speaker 2: of game we see. Obviously the Rams are super vulnerable,
1:19:30
Speaker 2: but I I like the Rams in this game. I
1:19:32
Speaker 2: think the magic's gonna run out for Chicago, and I
1:19:35
Speaker 2: think that we're gonna this might be the week that
1:19:37
Speaker 2: we finally see what you just said, the veteran presence
1:19:41
Speaker 2: of these Rams and the talent finally come to fruition
1:19:45
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, We're We're that team in the NFC.
1:19:49
Speaker 2: So Niners Rams in a in an NFC Championship game,
1:19:54
Speaker 2: proving that the NFC West is the best division in football.
1:19:57
Speaker 2: I mean, we already know that because three of the
1:19:59
Speaker 2: four teams that made it to this point are all
1:20:01
Speaker 2: from the same division. And then on the opposite side,
1:20:05
Speaker 2: we're going We're going Pat's Broncos and you're going Pat's Bills. Yeah,
1:20:09
Speaker 2: You're going Pat's Broncos. I'm going Pat's Bills. Be fun matchup,
1:20:15
Speaker 2: fun matchup either way. In the AFC Championship game, Pat's
1:20:17
Speaker 2: Broncos will feel like new blood even though even though
1:20:21
Speaker 2: it's the Patriots, but it's like a brand new era
1:20:24
Speaker 2: of the Patriots and Broncos. It's been what ten years,
1:20:28
Speaker 2: eleven years since they've been in this position.
1:20:30
Speaker 3: Here's what I want if if Pats Broncos ends up
1:20:33
Speaker 3: being the AFC Championship game. I want Peyton Manning, Tom
1:20:37
Speaker 3: Brady and the regular broadcast team.
1:20:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want.
1:20:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys had their career long rivalry with one another.
1:20:48
Speaker 2: And if it's Bills Pats, I want Drew Bledsoe, tom Brady, No,
1:20:52
Speaker 2: just kidding, No, No, I don't know how any of
1:20:58
Speaker 2: you people get behind the Bills, man. I can't. I
1:21:01
Speaker 2: just can't. They're like they're the brave, like the braves
1:21:04
Speaker 2: are that for me? For I don't have a good
1:21:08
Speaker 2: We've talked about this where I don't have a good
1:21:09
Speaker 2: reason to not like them. Yeah, I just have never
1:21:12
Speaker 2: liked them. That's that's the Bills. Like you just you
1:21:14
Speaker 2: you don't like the cut of their gym.
1:21:16
Speaker 3: I think it might just be teams from New York
1:21:18
Speaker 3: Bills in the NFL. I used to be a huge
1:21:21
Speaker 3: Knicks fan in the NFL, specifically Bills. Don't like them,
1:21:25
Speaker 3: don't watch them even when they're good.
1:21:26
Speaker 2: Necessarily.
1:21:27
Speaker 3: The only reason that I've waffled on that is because
1:21:30
Speaker 3: they had you know, mutes, they had star Lott to La,
1:21:33
Speaker 3: they had Zach Moss. Now they've got Dalton, now they
1:21:35
Speaker 3: got Cole like they got Taron Johnson.
1:21:38
Speaker 2: There's all these local connections, local connections. I'm just like,
1:21:41
Speaker 2: all right, fine, I'll watch that. You like Josh Allen, No,
1:21:45
Speaker 2: he's fine, right, weirdo. The reason I don't like Josh
1:21:50
Speaker 2: Allen as much as other people do is because Josh
1:21:54
Speaker 2: Allen proved me wrong when he was coming out of
1:21:56
Speaker 2: Wyoming and everyone was going bananas over him. I'm just like,
1:22:00
Speaker 2: because I watched I had watched a lot of Utah State.
1:22:02
Speaker 2: I wasn't one of those people at the time, and
1:22:04
Speaker 2: I was just like, he's not gonna be great. He
1:22:06
Speaker 2: wasn't even great at Wyoming. Yeah. I was a huge
1:22:08
Speaker 2: skeptic too, but he I just like how he's proved
1:22:11
Speaker 2: me wrong.
1:22:11
Speaker 3: It's really weird because there's some guys they go to
1:22:14
Speaker 3: like a an easier level or an easier conference, right,
1:22:17
Speaker 3: and they're just like disgustingly dominant in that environment, and
1:22:21
Speaker 3: you're just like, oh, this guy. And obviously this is
1:22:23
Speaker 3: pre transfer portal era. Nowadays, Josh Allen would not have
1:22:27
Speaker 3: been a Wyoming quarterback. He would maybe would have started
1:22:29
Speaker 3: there and he would have ended up at USC or whatever. Right,
1:22:32
Speaker 3: But like Randy Moss at Marshall, you know what I mean,
1:22:35
Speaker 3: It's like obvious he doesn't belong there. That guy should
1:22:39
Speaker 3: be the best wide receiver wherever he's at.
1:22:42
Speaker 2: Josh Allen never did that, right. Camp Scattabu was that
1:22:46
Speaker 2: Camp Scattaboo. At Sack State. You were just like, oh my,
1:22:51
Speaker 2: this is a man among boys.
1:22:52
Speaker 3: And then he went to Arizona State and it was still,
1:22:54
Speaker 3: oh my, this is a man among boys. And then
1:22:56
Speaker 3: he went to the NFL and just like, yep, he
1:22:58
Speaker 3: is who we thought he was gonna be.
1:23:00
Speaker 2: Unfortunately got hurt. But man, Josh Allen was not that.
1:23:05
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was just like.
1:23:09
Speaker 3: A traits and tools kind of a pick, and he
1:23:12
Speaker 3: ended up living up to the hype.
1:23:14
Speaker 2: And I didn't think so. So that's why I'm not
1:23:16
Speaker 2: a big Josh Allen fan, because I don't like to
1:23:18
Speaker 2: be wrong. See That's that's what's hilarious about this dynamic
1:23:22
Speaker 2: me and you, because I like that he proved us
1:23:26
Speaker 2: wrong and he's in. He's just so fun to watch like.
1:23:30
Speaker 2: And also the other reason why, the other reason I
1:23:33
Speaker 2: can't deny is to why I've gravitated towards towards Josh
1:23:36
Speaker 2: Allen and and pulling for the Bills most years in
1:23:40
Speaker 2: the playoffs in his tenure is that they're the anti Chiefs,
1:23:45
Speaker 2: and that's fair. The villain the Chiefs became the villain
1:23:49
Speaker 2: of the NFL unless you're a Chiefs fan. And so
1:23:51
Speaker 2: the fact that they were the team that looks like
1:23:54
Speaker 2: they could knock him off, it's endearing to me. I
1:23:57
Speaker 2: will say, I'm a big fan of Josh Allen's wife. Oh, yes,
1:24:01
Speaker 2: Haley Steinfield. She was great as an addition to the
1:24:04
Speaker 2: Pitch Perfect franchise. Yes, okay, shout out the flashlight. Her
1:24:08
Speaker 2: performance in True Grit fantastic. I think that was like
1:24:12
Speaker 2: her first major movie, Sinners. Have you seen Sinners yet?
1:24:15
Speaker 2: Not seen Sinners yet? I have to check that out.
1:24:18
Speaker 2: She's good, she's good actress. And they're expecting now did
1:24:21
Speaker 2: you see that? Congratulationspecting their first child. That's great, My
1:24:25
Speaker 2: wife's it's over the moon for Joshi and Haley that child.
1:24:30
Speaker 2: Congrats on your genetics. Well done. Absolutely all right. Airing
1:24:35
Speaker 2: of grievances his next fire up the old texting fingers
1:24:38
Speaker 2: eight seven seven three five three.
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1:25:29
Speaker 3: one big local interest all right. Sampson Nakua, former ute
1:25:34
Speaker 3: and Koog will not be charged over the alleged car
1:25:38
Speaker 3: theft where he ended up stealing a Lakers car because
1:25:41
Speaker 3: apparently when investigators were following up, he thought it was
1:25:46
Speaker 3: Puka's car. Puka his brother has a similar car, which
1:25:50
Speaker 3: makes sense, right, What pro athlete is truly driving a
1:25:56
Speaker 3: unique car these days, unless you're talking about Joe Burrow
1:25:59
Speaker 3: with the Dark Night batmobile.
1:26:02
Speaker 2: That's not they're all driving.
1:26:03
Speaker 3: They're all driving Tesla's and g wagons. And if you're
1:26:07
Speaker 3: really rich, you gotta Bugatti or whatever, rolls Royce.
1:26:10
Speaker 2: I don't know. He thought it was Puka's car, so
1:26:14
Speaker 2: he took it, all right. His attorneys of course, uh
1:26:21
Speaker 2: said Sheriff's department. They they told that he and he
1:26:28
Speaker 2: and Samson are they and Samson told the share the
1:26:31
Speaker 2: La Sheriff's Department is a misunderstanding. And the Sheriff's department
1:26:35
Speaker 2: promptly dismissed the case after review, and they say, quote,
1:26:40
Speaker 2: the case is now close. So good news for Samson,
1:26:43
Speaker 2: good news for the Nikua family that they can put
1:26:47
Speaker 2: behind them. What a ridiculous thing to get arrested for.
1:26:52
Speaker 2: If that, if that ended up going the other way,
1:26:54
Speaker 2: so good for them that it's dismissed. I'll do. Otto
1:26:58
Speaker 2: Tierro is the lay Lakers rookie who was the owner
1:27:02
Speaker 2: of the vehicle that Samson ended up taking. Can I ask,
1:27:06
Speaker 2: like the obvious question here, how do you take a
1:27:11
Speaker 2: car if it's not the only the only way this happens,
1:27:15
Speaker 2: right is if and this is the only way I
1:27:19
Speaker 2: find it believable.
1:27:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're at a hotel or you're at a
1:27:24
Speaker 3: fancy restaurant and you valet park the car right, and
1:27:28
Speaker 3: let's say the valet brings up the black Suburban or
1:27:32
Speaker 3: the black Escalade or the white g Wagon or whatever,
1:27:36
Speaker 3: and the valet is just like, yeah, here's a car,
1:27:41
Speaker 3: and you see it there, and they leave the keys
1:27:43
Speaker 3: in and it's idling or whatever.
1:27:45
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, there it is. They brought it up.
1:27:47
Speaker 2: Let's go get in the car and drive it away.
1:27:49
Speaker 2: That's the only way this is possible. How else do
1:27:51
Speaker 2: you have the keys? Right? You can't just go sit
1:27:55
Speaker 2: in somebody's car and drive it away. You have to
1:27:58
Speaker 2: have keys, I guess you know if you like the
1:28:01
Speaker 2: really fancy cars. Now you have like the app you
1:28:04
Speaker 2: can use on the phone. So unless you stole something
1:28:07
Speaker 2: from someone, you can't drive their car. This is the
1:28:10
Speaker 2: only way it happened. So you do the old Mercedes
1:28:13
Speaker 2: on voice activated thing. Maybe this is the valet. The
1:28:17
Speaker 2: valet is the only way that this works. So is
1:28:20
Speaker 2: the valet getting in trouble here? Is the valet still
1:28:22
Speaker 2: have their job after that valet is fired. There's no
1:28:25
Speaker 2: way if you made a mistake that generated national headlines
1:28:30
Speaker 2: in ways and humiliated, humiliated one of LA's biggest sports stars.
1:28:36
Speaker 2: Right now, you don't have a job anymore. Yeah, so
1:28:40
Speaker 2: that sucks for that ballet. Yeah, hopefully that valet is
1:28:45
Speaker 2: having luck finding other employment. Have you ever gotten in
1:28:48
Speaker 2: somebody else's car thinking it was your car? I haven't
1:28:51
Speaker 2: gotten into the car. I have like gotten up to
1:28:54
Speaker 2: the car and touched the handle. H and then but
1:28:57
Speaker 2: the other thing about that is and maybe, uh is
1:29:01
Speaker 2: it Tierro the Lakers? Yeah, okay, Tiero, he's a rookie.
1:29:05
Speaker 2: Maybe he he doesn't have many things that like interior
1:29:10
Speaker 2: accessories or anything that makes the car look very unique.
1:29:13
Speaker 2: Right get you get somebody else's car and they have
1:29:18
Speaker 2: like but that that's not my air freshener. Right. Like,
1:29:20
Speaker 2: you get in and even if you don't have many accessories,
1:29:24
Speaker 2: you can see like, oh, that's not where I keep that.
1:29:27
Speaker 2: That's it looks this looks different. It's the same car,
1:29:31
Speaker 2: look same make and model, but there's things that look different.
1:29:34
Speaker 2: Maybe it looks cleaner or dirtier than how you keep yours.
1:29:38
Speaker 2: Like you know right away that it's not your car.
1:29:43
Speaker 2: Although again this is a valet parking situation. Your first
1:29:47
Speaker 2: thought would be like, oh, those idiots made a mess
1:29:50
Speaker 2: in my car. If it's dirtier, it's a good car.
1:29:52
Speaker 2: You're like, oh wow, they clean the car. It's a
1:29:55
Speaker 2: good point. Also, it's not Samson's car, so maybe maybe
1:29:59
Speaker 2: he hasn't maybe no idea very much before, so he's
1:30:02
Speaker 2: just like that's the make and model though, yeah that is,
1:30:05
Speaker 2: that's that's Pooka's car. So but I just say, in
1:30:09
Speaker 2: those times when I've confused someone else's car for mine,
1:30:12
Speaker 2: I've never actually been able to get in, but I
1:30:15
Speaker 2: have gotten close enough where I'm where I'm like embarrassingly
1:30:18
Speaker 2: close to anyone watching me and like, oh shoot, I
1:30:21
Speaker 2: just approached the wrong car. Never mind, not trying to
1:30:24
Speaker 2: steal your car. I so just have this same one
1:30:27
Speaker 2: as me. My bad.
1:30:29
Speaker 3: I have a very distinct memory of this my when
1:30:31
Speaker 3: I was probably in like third or fourth grade, my
1:30:35
Speaker 3: mother and I went to the Smiths on thirteen hundred
1:30:39
Speaker 3: East in Sandy All right, shout out to God's Country,
1:30:43
Speaker 3: you guys know the one. It's right next to the gully,
1:30:45
Speaker 3: right next to Dimpledale Canyon. That Smith's on thirteenth East.
1:30:48
Speaker 2: Right.
1:30:48
Speaker 3: That was like I lived two blocks behind that Smith's right.
1:30:53
Speaker 3: We just popped down run a little Errand now at
1:30:56
Speaker 3: the time, the family car was a nineteen eighty eight
1:31:02
Speaker 3: Chevy Celebrity station Wagon, maroon, back seat facing backwards.
1:31:08
Speaker 2: Okay, love that car. Amazing talking the way way.
1:31:12
Speaker 3: Back that was the Yeah, the way way back seat,
1:31:15
Speaker 3: that foot ground face backwards out the back window. That
1:31:18
Speaker 3: was my first car that I drove as a sophomore
1:31:21
Speaker 3: in high school.
1:31:22
Speaker 2: All right, it was.
1:31:24
Speaker 3: It had I mean, it's a big car with a
1:31:25
Speaker 3: four cylinder engine, topped out at about fifty seven miles
1:31:28
Speaker 3: an hour.
1:31:29
Speaker 2: This thing sucked, but I loved it.
1:31:31
Speaker 3: Right, But this is before it had been downgraded and
1:31:33
Speaker 3: wasn't quite that old yet.
1:31:36
Speaker 2: We go, we go into Smiths.
1:31:38
Speaker 3: We come back out and there is another maroon station
1:31:43
Speaker 3: Wagon parked in the same row, like two spots closer,
1:31:48
Speaker 3: but with a big van er big truck in between,
1:31:51
Speaker 3: so we don't see our car. We see the first
1:31:53
Speaker 3: maroon station wagon and we go. We get in that car.
1:31:56
Speaker 3: My mom goes around.
1:31:59
Speaker 2: And she puts the key in the door, and I
1:32:02
Speaker 2: don't know if the key was not like, if the
1:32:04
Speaker 2: door was not actually locked, or if somehow Remember back
1:32:07
Speaker 2: in those days, you had keys for the door and
1:32:11
Speaker 2: keys for the ignition. There were two keys for the car, right,
1:32:14
Speaker 2: and sometimes another key for the trunk. Yeah, So in
1:32:18
Speaker 2: this case, either the keys for the door were like
1:32:21
Speaker 2: the same because they were pretty much the same car,
1:32:23
Speaker 2: so she was able to unlock, or it wasn't locked
1:32:25
Speaker 2: in the first place. But we got in somebody else's car.
1:32:28
Speaker 3: We both sat in the car and my mom put
1:32:31
Speaker 3: the other the start the car key in the ignition
1:32:34
Speaker 3: and it didn't work, and she's like, what the heck?
1:32:37
Speaker 3: And then we kind of looked at We're like, oh, whoa,
1:32:39
Speaker 3: this isn't our car, and it's because of an air
1:32:41
Speaker 3: freshener hanging. We were not a fancy family that had
1:32:44
Speaker 3: a hanging air fresh So.
1:32:46
Speaker 2: When you made that joke, you were actually referring to
1:32:49
Speaker 2: the real thing. I still remember that.
1:32:52
Speaker 3: So Samson, all right, it happened to me in fourth grade,
1:32:55
Speaker 3: it happened to you when you were twenty seven years old.
1:32:57
Speaker 2: Okay, we can we can accept your explanation. Yeah, and
1:33:03
Speaker 2: again glad it's turning out okay for for he and
1:33:07
Speaker 2: and the Nikua family. Look, I am pumped another Daily
1:33:10
Speaker 2: Dumb story. I'm very very excited for the eventuality of
1:33:14
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City of Utah getting a Major League Baseball team,
1:33:17
Speaker 2: I am going to be spoiler alert. I'm going to
1:33:20
Speaker 2: be completely insufferable, trying to figure out colorways, trying to
1:33:25
Speaker 2: figure out team names.
1:33:26
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be trying to be the play by play guy.
1:33:28
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be awful when we're getting a baseball team.
1:33:31
Speaker 3: All right, you guys are gonna get so sick of
1:33:33
Speaker 3: me hearing about these things.
1:33:34
Speaker 2: You're gonna since you're gonna audition for the play by
1:33:37
Speaker 2: play role, you're gonna be on air, You're gonna be
1:33:40
Speaker 2: You're gonna be just saying number combinations just to get
1:33:43
Speaker 2: get ready to say, hey, that was a four to
1:33:45
Speaker 2: three put out right there. I'm just gonna strike that
1:33:50
Speaker 2: opinion from the record. Steer like it. You know, I'm
1:33:54
Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna be practicing on my way to it.
1:33:56
Speaker 2: But then I'm gonna come back down to earth and realize,
1:34:00
Speaker 2: even if we get an MLB franchise in Salt Lake City,
1:34:07
Speaker 2: we are not getting a World Series probably ever, because
1:34:12
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are still going to exist. Right now, James,
1:34:17
Speaker 2: the Dodgers have two point one billion dollars worth of
1:34:21
Speaker 2: guaranteed money, either active or deferred salaries that they owe
1:34:25
Speaker 2: to megastars on their team. They are I mean, the
1:34:29
Speaker 2: franchise itself is probably worth fourteen to fifteen billion right now,
1:34:33
Speaker 2: but they're on their balance sheet. They've got liabilities for
1:34:37
Speaker 2: like seven players totaling two point one billion dollars and
1:34:42
Speaker 2: going all the way until like twenty ninety nine. This
1:34:46
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Kyle Tucker signed with the Dodgers yesterday. Hate it.
1:34:55
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays got Bobashett for what is it, three years,
1:35:00
Speaker 2: forty million bucks or something. Crazy former Blue Jay Bobashett
1:35:04
Speaker 2: going to the Mets for that. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:35:06
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays. Bo Bashett is going to the Mets
1:35:09
Speaker 2: for big time money. Now.
1:35:11
Speaker 3: The Dodgers they have been successful in translating that kind
1:35:15
Speaker 3: of pay to championship level success. The Mets are on
1:35:18
Speaker 3: the opposite end of that spectrum. They pay a lot
1:35:20
Speaker 3: of money. And yeah, I mean they they did.
1:35:25
Speaker 2: They did lose the Dodgers in the NLCS two years ago.
1:35:28
Speaker 2: You can't that's nothing to be that's nothing to sneeze at.
1:35:31
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're not given their payroll. They're underachieving. Absolutely so,
1:35:37
Speaker 2: as we very often get bogged down in the football
1:35:41
Speaker 2: and basketball world, especially this time of year Major League Baseball.
1:35:45
Speaker 2: That for all of the conversation about viewership declining and
1:35:50
Speaker 2: about attendance being a concern and how do you capture
1:35:54
Speaker 2: the young fan, the financials in Major League Baseball are
1:35:57
Speaker 2: still some of the most shocking. It's apps and I
1:36:00
Speaker 2: guess it's a volume proposition when you have one hundred
1:36:03
Speaker 2: and sixty two regular season games, But man, these owners
1:36:07
Speaker 2: are just splash and cash on big time players. Well,
1:36:10
Speaker 2: I just I don't understand why the salary cap is
1:36:17
Speaker 2: not why a salary cap is not something that can
1:36:19
Speaker 2: be instituted, I mean, and I say I don't understand.
1:36:22
Speaker 2: I do understand. It's the power of the MLB Players Association,
1:36:26
Speaker 2: which is probably the most powerful players association in sports
1:36:30
Speaker 2: and probably will always be the case. They guys will
1:36:34
Speaker 2: play when they're suspended because of the players Association's power.
1:36:40
Speaker 2: Oh see, well, well it's a pending suspension. It's being appealed,
1:36:44
Speaker 2: so they are allowed to play no like they're suspended,
1:36:47
Speaker 2: and yet they're allowed to play like That tells you
1:36:49
Speaker 2: just how powerful the players Association is. And in Major
1:36:52
Speaker 2: League Baseball, so I know that's why. But like they
1:36:58
Speaker 2: if there's a league that's been in need of a
1:37:01
Speaker 2: salary cap, and it's been for a long time, it's
1:37:04
Speaker 2: been Baseball how long. I mean, the Dodgers are now
1:37:07
Speaker 2: just the they're the current evil empire, if you will.
1:37:10
Speaker 2: The Yankees, of course, were that traditionally where it's just
1:37:14
Speaker 2: like they have the most money and there's no salary caps,
1:37:17
Speaker 2: so we're just spending it like there needs to be.
1:37:21
Speaker 2: And and my Red Sox have been in that position too,
1:37:24
Speaker 2: not quite to the level of the Yankees and Dodgers,
1:37:28
Speaker 2: but they've been. They're not a poor franchise right they're
1:37:30
Speaker 2: acting like it right now, but it's they there needs
1:37:35
Speaker 2: to be a salary cap. And it's because it's just
1:37:38
Speaker 2: ridiculous that the Dodgers are allowed to just keep out,
1:37:41
Speaker 2: Hey we've won two straight World Series. Why don't we
1:37:43
Speaker 2: just add Kyle Tucker too? Is it's crazy, it's really wild,
1:37:48
Speaker 2: and it again, it's not going to help you gain
1:37:54
Speaker 2: more fans. Now, it might help the Dodgers gain more fans,
1:37:58
Speaker 2: but it's not. It's a nationwide is going to continue
1:38:01
Speaker 2: to grow, absolutely.
1:38:02
Speaker 3: But it's not gonna help like Royals fans to be
1:38:06
Speaker 3: more engaged. It's not gonna I'm a Minnesota Twins guy,
1:38:09
Speaker 3: and my interest in Major League Baseball has eroded very,
1:38:14
Speaker 3: very drastically over my years because we don't have a team, obviously,
1:38:19
Speaker 3: and because the Twins are not even bothering in a
1:38:23
Speaker 3: lot of cases, they have become a slightly better version
1:38:27
Speaker 3: of like the Oakland A's where your best players develop
1:38:30
Speaker 3: there and then you ship them off to the Yankees,
1:38:32
Speaker 3: or you ship them off to the Giants, or you
1:38:34
Speaker 3: ship them off to whatever, and that sucks, right, So
1:38:38
Speaker 3: major League Baseball it's really interesting because they they're very
1:38:42
Speaker 3: transparent about acknowledging their problems, like, hey, yeah, we got
1:38:45
Speaker 3: to capture young fans, we got to get him into
1:38:47
Speaker 3: the game, we got to make our All Star format
1:38:49
Speaker 3: more appealing, we got to emphasize this home run derby.
1:38:52
Speaker 3: You got to get more English speaking stars, all these things.
1:38:57
Speaker 3: And then they're like, we absolutely cannot do the thing
1:39:01
Speaker 3: that everyone wants us to do and institute any kind
1:39:04
Speaker 3: of guardrail or salary cap to stop the Dodgers from
1:39:08
Speaker 3: buying championships continuously. And by the way, the players don't
1:39:10
Speaker 3: want them to for obvious reasons. Bryce Harper, Bryce Harper,
1:39:15
Speaker 3: it was this during this last season. He went Banana's
1:39:20
Speaker 3: wasn't it the commissioner.
1:39:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, the commissioner visited the Phillies and he said f
1:39:24
Speaker 2: you basically to commissioner when he even just mentioned the
1:39:28
Speaker 2: idea of a salary Yeah, he was just like, you know,
1:39:31
Speaker 2: a salary cap might help competitives. Bryce Harper went insane
1:39:36
Speaker 2: and like, okay, Bryce relaxed. Man, first of all, you're
1:39:42
Speaker 2: fine either way. Okay, you've already made. If you're like
1:39:45
Speaker 2: a rookie, you're like, no, no, no, no, don't do that.
1:39:47
Speaker 2: Don't do that. I don't want a salary cap the rookies.
1:39:50
Speaker 2: Oh see what I want invitations. You're just like, I mean, Bryce,
1:39:54
Speaker 2: you're you're you're a Darner Baseball billionaire. You're gonna be okay.
1:39:58
Speaker 2: And I just I used to believe that Manfred was
1:40:01
Speaker 2: brazenly was it was brazenly being like, yeah, we're gonna
1:40:05
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a sour cap, no matter what you
1:40:08
Speaker 2: think it to warrant that kind of reaction too. He
1:40:11
Speaker 2: just because, as I said, this is not a new
1:40:16
Speaker 2: thing for the Players Association to be this intimidating thing
1:40:20
Speaker 2: to be this in this uh, this powerful right. So
1:40:24
Speaker 2: the commissioner who represents the owners who are who are
1:40:28
Speaker 2: at odds with the players Association, they sit across the
1:40:32
Speaker 2: table in labor negotiations, he knows well enough to not
1:40:36
Speaker 2: to not just brashly be like, yeah, we're gonna ensue
1:40:40
Speaker 2: Sowary Cap. He's he's probably very carefully brought it up,
1:40:43
Speaker 2: and to warrant that kind of reaction is crazy. It's
1:40:46
Speaker 2: just that's the way it is right now in Major
1:40:49
Speaker 2: League Baseball. As long as we're talking about baseball.
1:40:51
Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw has retired, but he is going to pitch
1:40:55
Speaker 3: in the World Baseball Classic.
1:40:56
Speaker 2: What do you think of this? Yeah, I mean he
1:40:58
Speaker 2: can still he can still pitch. He's not he's not
1:41:03
Speaker 2: near the guy he was. I would guess he's probably
1:41:06
Speaker 2: not gonna start many games in the World Baseball Classic.
1:41:10
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna have the role he had in the
1:41:11
Speaker 2: playoffs with the Dodgers, where when they need a guy,
1:41:15
Speaker 2: when they need an arm in the bullpen and they've
1:41:18
Speaker 2: used all their other good arms, they're gonna look at
1:41:21
Speaker 2: They're gonna look to Clayton and be like, give us
1:41:23
Speaker 2: an inning and it probably be probably have that kind
1:41:26
Speaker 2: of role and he can be effective that way. I
1:41:28
Speaker 2: think it's cool that that he wants to continue to
1:41:32
Speaker 2: pitch in this kind of thing. It kind of reminds
1:41:34
Speaker 2: you of Magic Johnson in the NBA being invited to
1:41:38
Speaker 2: play playing in the Olympics, of course, the on the
1:41:41
Speaker 2: Dream Team after he had retired because it was HIV
1:41:45
Speaker 2: being HIV positive, and then being invited to play in
1:41:50
Speaker 2: the All Star Game in the NBA after he had retired.
1:41:54
Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of cool. Let's do that
1:41:56
Speaker 2: in baseball too, with the legend from La coincidentally fascinating
1:42:04
Speaker 2: times in Major League Baseball. We're still a couple months
1:42:07
Speaker 2: away from spring training and any kind of resurgence of
1:42:11
Speaker 2: the game itself, but this is one of the things
1:42:14
Speaker 2: that is so interesting now in the world of sports,
1:42:17
Speaker 2: and has obviously permeated college sports because the storylines about
1:42:22
Speaker 2: the game itself can only sustain during the calendar. And
1:42:27
Speaker 2: then they had the trade headlines and free agency and
1:42:29
Speaker 2: things like that, and now, really what some of the
1:42:32
Speaker 2: biggest headline drivers in all sports are contract deals, contract numbers.
1:42:38
Speaker 2: When you see Bobashett with a three year. It's I
1:42:42
Speaker 2: over exaggerated with one hundred and twenty six million dollar deal.
1:42:47
Speaker 2: I'm not a math whiz, but that's a lot of them.
1:42:51
Speaker 2: That's forty two million dollars a year. That's top quarterback money.
1:43:00
Speaker 2: And there's like twenty five guys in the in the
1:43:04
Speaker 2: Major League baseball world that are making more than that.
1:43:08
Speaker 2: Do you remember when uh, and this is more this
1:43:12
Speaker 2: is exceeding that money. But do you remember a rod
1:43:17
Speaker 2: just every time he had is a new deal, it
1:43:20
Speaker 2: was over two hundred He would sign for over two
1:43:22
Speaker 2: hundred million total. This is like and for like ten
1:43:26
Speaker 2: years each time. Just baseball contracts are insane. Yeah, when
1:43:30
Speaker 2: they so and so signed a sixteen year deal versus
1:43:34
Speaker 2: worth four hundred and twenty five million dollars, You're like, wait,
1:43:37
Speaker 2: what was that? Soto? Why that was that? Was that
1:43:40
Speaker 2: listener of the show Wan Soto? I think it might
1:43:43
Speaker 2: he texted to the show today, Wan Soto. Yeah, speaking
1:43:45
Speaker 2: of Boba sheet, did you see Taylor from Warum's text
1:43:49
Speaker 2: about he's because because our our listener, Wan Soto said
1:43:53
Speaker 2: that we're going to enter the dark ages of Utah football,
1:43:55
Speaker 2: and Taylor from Warums said he's he's mad that he's
1:43:58
Speaker 2: got to share the spotlight with Boba Schett. Now, might
1:44:01
Speaker 2: that might be the thing that might be why it's
1:44:03
Speaker 2: so negative? We love you one just having some fun there.
1:44:08
Speaker 2: So you know.
1:44:10
Speaker 3: I love a good conspiracy theory. I love a good
1:44:13
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory that surrounds sports, and I love one even
1:44:16
Speaker 3: more if Jalen Rose is involved.
1:44:20
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just learned about this. Okay, Apparently Jalen Rose's
1:44:24
Speaker 2: daughter is trying to convince everyone of a conspiracy theory
1:44:28
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers' secret wife is actually an AI chatbot
1:44:36
Speaker 2: catfish by AI. I would love so much if the
1:44:44
Speaker 2: Manti tale story got a modern twist where it was
1:44:49
Speaker 2: AI and that Aaron Rodgers, of all people, who kind
1:44:54
Speaker 2: of his whole stance these last several years has been
1:44:57
Speaker 2: like I'm smarter than everyone. If he's the one who
1:45:01
Speaker 2: got duped into quote unquote marrying and a fake person,
1:45:05
Speaker 2: I would love that so much. See, Mantiteo got mercilessly
1:45:12
Speaker 2: made fun of by a lot of people, but I
1:45:15
Speaker 2: feel like there was there's some there's much more sympathy
1:45:22
Speaker 2: in his situation than there would be with Aaron Rodgers. Well, also,
1:45:27
Speaker 2: we did not know the term catfish. When this happened
1:45:30
Speaker 2: to mantiitl like it's easy to look back and be like,
1:45:35
Speaker 2: oh man, how could that have happened. It's because it
1:45:37
Speaker 2: was the first time that had happened in a profile setting.
1:45:39
Speaker 2: Nobody knew about this, and that was one of the reasons.
1:45:43
Speaker 3: Shout out to the local filmmakers who put the Mantiteo
1:45:47
Speaker 3: documentary together. The so good, so good, well done Tony it.
1:45:55
Speaker 3: It was absolutely incredible. When they actually gave me the
1:46:00
Speaker 3: audio of like the voice messages he was talking about,
1:46:03
Speaker 3: It's like, yep, that's a woman talking to me. Now
1:46:07
Speaker 3: the long distance relationship. I don't actually get to see
1:46:10
Speaker 3: this person. I'm supposed to meet with them and they
1:46:12
Speaker 3: don't actually meet them.
1:46:13
Speaker 2: Thing. That's tough, right, But we didn't know that people
1:46:18
Speaker 2: did that stuff wouldn't happened to Mantai. I hope that
1:46:21
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is actually married to a chatbot. That would
1:46:24
Speaker 2: be really cool because then we'd have that to hold
1:46:28
Speaker 2: over him and make fun of him for for years.
1:46:30
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the kind of spin he would do
1:46:33
Speaker 2: on Pat McAfee on his Tuesday hit. Yeah, with the
1:46:38
Speaker 2: way that with the lay of the league gets covered
1:46:41
Speaker 2: today and like, Aaron, we're talking about your fake relationship.
1:46:45
Speaker 2: We're not talking about how people cover the league. That's
1:46:48
Speaker 2: that's weird. I also want to know why Jalen Rose's
1:46:51
Speaker 2: daughter is the one who's trying to convince himone of this,
1:46:54
Speaker 2: Like what is she some kind of like big time
1:46:56
Speaker 2: influencer now trying to be an influencer, Like why is
1:46:59
Speaker 2: she why? Hey, why did she pick Mariah Rose? Why
1:47:02
Speaker 2: did she pick this fight to be her thing? She knows? Hey,
1:47:07
Speaker 2: she's gotten in somehow she knows someone close to Aaron Rodgers.
1:47:11
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know her Twitter profile. This is
1:47:15
Speaker 2: it's explaining sports for hotties. She's got twenty one thousand followers. Okay,
1:47:24
Speaker 2: that's incredible, explaining sports for hotties.
1:47:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got like four videos out that are just
1:47:32
Speaker 3: all talking about Aaron Rodgers and how Aaron Rodgers there's
1:47:35
Speaker 3: no way, after years and years of him being in
1:47:38
Speaker 3: high profile, public celebrity relationships, there's just no way that
1:47:42
Speaker 3: he could have gotten married to a secret woman that
1:47:44
Speaker 3: no one's ever seen.
1:47:45
Speaker 2: Well, hotties need her to explain that that's what's going on.
1:47:50
Speaker 2: The the hotties. They are then knocking down her door.
1:47:53
Speaker 2: Then count me a hotty, okay, because I need her
1:47:55
Speaker 2: to explain it to me too. Explaining sports for hotties
1:48:02
Speaker 2: you can feel, and you can feel any niche you
1:48:04
Speaker 2: want on the internet these days, James and Mariah Rose,
1:48:08
Speaker 2: the daughter of Jalen Rose. The niche she wants to
1:48:11
Speaker 2: fill is explaining marriage sports, figure marriage conspiracy theories, but
1:48:15
Speaker 2: apparently only to people who are also attractive, So if
1:48:20
Speaker 2: you're homely or even average, you can't follow her. She's
1:48:24
Speaker 2: actually created an AI that blocks you immediately after you
1:48:29
Speaker 2: hit the follow button.
1:48:30
Speaker 3: It's probably why she only has twenty one followers. There's
1:48:32
Speaker 3: just not enough hot people. There's not enough bodies like Nope,
1:48:36
Speaker 3: you're not cute. Sorry, you don't need this explanation. This
1:48:41
Speaker 3: is for the hotties. This one's actually kind of a bummer.
1:48:46
Speaker 2: I don't I know that a lot of people like
1:48:48
Speaker 2: to make fun of Tom Brady and the Tom Brady
1:48:51
Speaker 2: roast was hilarious, but everyone was going after him because
1:48:55
Speaker 2: of the divorced stuff. Him and just Albunching went through
1:48:58
Speaker 2: a pretty high profile set operation and divorce. There was
1:49:02
Speaker 2: a lot of I don't know, like a lot of
1:49:06
Speaker 2: fallout from that. For Brady's kids. Giselle ended up with
1:49:10
Speaker 2: her jiu jitsu instructor, which, if you're in the combat
1:49:13
Speaker 2: sports world, is like, not that funny of a joke
1:49:16
Speaker 2: because everyone is just like, oh, that happens way too often,
1:49:21
Speaker 2: and probably Brazilian jiu jitsu too, knowing she's from Brazil. Correct.
1:49:27
Speaker 3: But Tom Brady, he he admitted finally publicly that his
1:49:34
Speaker 3: last season in the NFL was bad because of the divorce.
1:49:37
Speaker 3: I mean, I think people inferred this, but he's been
1:49:39
Speaker 3: really really guarded and talking about those kind of things,
1:49:42
Speaker 3: a lot of personal family issues. It was a challenge,
1:49:45
Speaker 3: took a lot out of me in terms of my
1:49:46
Speaker 3: ability to continue to play.
1:49:52
Speaker 2: Thank you, Captain obvious.
1:49:53
Speaker 3: Tom Brady being a little bit human is actually kind
1:49:58
Speaker 3: of rare. Yeah, and him admitting that, I think goes
1:50:02
Speaker 3: a long way to making people to bridging the He
1:50:05
Speaker 3: is very robotic in a lot of situations he does,
1:50:08
Speaker 3: he's aging backwards, he's got Benjamin Button going on. But
1:50:13
Speaker 3: him admitting this, I think, especially for Tampa fans and
1:50:16
Speaker 3: for Pats fans, we have like this deep, deep affection
1:50:19
Speaker 3: for Tom Brady. It's like a catharsist to see their
1:50:23
Speaker 3: guy and hear their guy be normal for a second.
1:50:26
Speaker 2: What do you think he shall not be named thinks
1:50:28
Speaker 2: of this now that he's the head football coach of
1:50:32
Speaker 2: Brady's alma mater. Do you think this helps this This
1:50:35
Speaker 2: is something that touch touches him now? Probably not, Probably now,
1:50:41
Speaker 2: Although he did say he who should not be named,
1:50:44
Speaker 2: did like basically solicit I'd like to hear from Tom
1:50:46
Speaker 2: Brady at some point. Why not a lot of former
1:50:49
Speaker 2: Wolverines had already contacted him. He's like, it hasn't been
1:50:51
Speaker 2: Tom Brady yet. I love I actually would. I would
1:50:54
Speaker 2: pay money. This is part of the access thing. You
1:50:57
Speaker 2: want to start generating revenue. I would pay money to
1:51:00
Speaker 2: be a fly on the wall for that conversation. Because
1:51:03
Speaker 2: neither guy seems to be like overly loquacious, right. Both
1:51:10
Speaker 2: seem like they can talk to anyone, but as long
1:51:13
Speaker 2: as they're talking football. If you put those two guys
1:51:17
Speaker 2: who are like super alphas together in a conversation, it
1:51:22
Speaker 2: can they can only talk about football because they don't
1:51:24
Speaker 2: relate on anything else. Or Kyle Whittingham, tom Brady eats
1:51:27
Speaker 2: like only avocado smoothies. Kyle Whittingham part of the reason
1:51:32
Speaker 2: he works out so much. The man can wolf down
1:51:34
Speaker 2: food like a teenage boy. It's insane. You don't think
1:51:39
Speaker 2: you don't think you just said his name, by the way, geez,
1:51:42
Speaker 2: flag on you dang. But you don't think the former
1:51:46
Speaker 2: coach that I like that Moniker to the former UTENH
1:51:49
Speaker 2: football coach, coach? Do you you don't think he's He's
1:51:52
Speaker 2: not gonna bring up, Hey, what's your high on Peloton?
1:51:55
Speaker 2: Knowing the story and you wanna wanna do Pelton good
1:52:01
Speaker 2: after it? And he and and Tom's like Tom smiles
1:52:05
Speaker 2: like ah cool, yeah, well, little little fun competitive situation,
1:52:09
Speaker 2: and the former coaches he realizes real quick, No, it's
1:52:14
Speaker 2: not fun competitive with me, Like we're we're going we're
1:52:18
Speaker 2: playing for keeps, all right, you know what.
1:52:23
Speaker 3: I would also love to see Tom Brady talking to
1:52:26
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham about marriage again.
1:52:29
Speaker 2: I did it again on purpose that time. I'd love
1:52:32
Speaker 2: to see those two talking about this specifically because Kyle,
1:52:36
Speaker 2: it's like high school sweetheart, I guess maybe college sweetheart.
1:52:43
Speaker 2: Every available moment spent with that person, every available moment
1:52:49
Speaker 2: gives that person credit, right Jamie, Like he was always, always,
1:52:53
Speaker 2: always mentioning, right, You like, every time you saw him
1:52:56
Speaker 2: off of a football field, you would see them together.
1:52:58
Speaker 3: If you went up to the facility, she was there
1:53:00
Speaker 3: all the time. She would come to practices. Things like that,
1:53:04
Speaker 3: Tom Brady was married to a literal supermodel and like you,
1:53:10
Speaker 3: only you only saw them in the same setting when the.
1:53:14
Speaker 2: Paparazzi caught something. Absolutely And on top of that, he
1:53:20
Speaker 2: left his pregnant girlfriend to to then Mary and to
1:53:25
Speaker 2: be start a relationship. And then Mary said literal supermodel.
1:53:30
Speaker 2: So that's the other thing that would be funny, another
1:53:32
Speaker 2: reason why it'd be funny to hear that conversation. Yeah,
1:53:35
Speaker 2: his kid is like a baseball player. Now, I think
1:53:39
Speaker 2: is he really the one with his uh his ex
1:53:42
Speaker 2: girlfriend moynihan Jack moynihan is his name, John Jack moynihan.
1:53:48
Speaker 2: That was the one he left in utero, which is
1:53:53
Speaker 2: just absolutely insane. I think he's like a scholarship baseball
1:53:56
Speaker 2: player there or something. All right, I'll have to look
1:53:58
Speaker 2: that uput out and hopefully they have some kind of relationship.
1:54:04
Speaker 2: I would hope. So, even though the way he left
1:54:08
Speaker 2: his mom is terrible, hopefully he is a good dad
1:54:11
Speaker 2: to the boy. I'm gonna I'm gonna look up and
1:54:15
Speaker 2: see if he has any recruiting profiles. The NFL playoffs
1:54:18
Speaker 2: are this weekend.
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Speaker 2: Which one of those is going to be.
1:55:08
Speaker 3: Where the four point thirty the Bears Rams The home
1:55:11
Speaker 3: broadcast will be on ESPN.
1:55:12
Speaker 2: The Fan, that's right, and the only we won't have
1:55:16
Speaker 2: one of the broadcasts because we've got Utah men's and
1:55:19
Speaker 2: women's basketball going on the same time during that game.
1:55:22
Speaker 2: That's the Bills versus the Broncos, not Bill Riley's Broncos.
1:55:27
Speaker 3: The most importantly Saturday six pm, Seahawks Niners. You can
1:55:32
Speaker 3: hear that right here on your home of the Utes.
1:55:35
Speaker 3: And interestingly enough, Sam Darnold has been downgraded to questionable.
1:55:40
Speaker 4: Now.
1:55:40
Speaker 3: Look, he's gonna play, but a new oblique injury the
1:55:48
Speaker 3: week of a very important game. He said he felt
1:55:52
Speaker 3: a little something while he was throwing routes on air.
1:55:55
Speaker 3: Nobody touched him, all right, just seven on seven, actually
1:56:02
Speaker 3: routes on air. It's not even seven on seven. He's
1:56:05
Speaker 3: just throwing the ball and he tweaked his oblique. The
1:56:09
Speaker 3: thing about this these core muscles, right, you hear people
1:56:12
Speaker 3: with the hernia situations, You hear the core muscles. You
1:56:15
Speaker 3: hear obleaques. I'm sure they'll shoot him up with whatever
1:56:19
Speaker 3: he needs to be shut up with, but there's nothing
1:56:23
Speaker 3: you can do on a football field. There's no movement
1:56:25
Speaker 3: that doesn't feel that. I'm sure he'll be fine. I promise.
1:56:32
Speaker 2: I'm not crossing my fingers that he's less than one
1:56:34
Speaker 2: hundred percent just so my Niners have a better shot
1:56:36
Speaker 2: of winning. But is what it is. It's gotta make
1:56:42
Speaker 2: you feel a little bit better. The idea that someone
1:56:46
Speaker 2: on the Seahawks is gonna be less than one hundred percent, Well,
1:56:48
Speaker 2: you've got so many guys missing on the Niners this
1:56:52
Speaker 2: year though, But yeah, of course you're not rooting for it.
1:56:55
Speaker 3: Donald was asked, what's the percentage of you thinking you
1:56:58
Speaker 3: won't play? He said, probably closer to zero. So he's
1:57:03
Speaker 3: gonna play. The backups are Drew Locke and then Jalen Milroe.
1:57:07
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe, former Bama quarterback.
1:57:12
Speaker 2: Yeah. He He and Calen Divoris whitched places. That's interesting.
1:57:16
Speaker 3: Despite my biggest hopes, Fred Warner is out versus the
1:57:21
Speaker 3: Seahawks there he has not checked all the necessary boxes.
1:57:24
Speaker 3: They're not gonna be able to get him back. Great,
1:57:27
Speaker 3: he's out there practicing. Yeah, the captain energy, that kind
1:57:31
Speaker 3: of thing. That's that's important. It doesn't have a concrete
1:57:34
Speaker 3: effect on the game itself, obviously, but if you can
1:57:37
Speaker 3: get to next week, then there's a much more realistic
1:57:40
Speaker 3: possibility that he could be out there playing. That's gonna
1:57:43
Speaker 3: be uh, it's gonna be a tough game for the
1:57:45
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers.
1:57:46
Speaker 2: The most interesting thing about how about him out there practicing.
1:57:50
Speaker 2: He's practicing in a lead bowl to protect himself from
1:57:56
Speaker 2: the power station. He should be a friend is not
1:58:00
Speaker 2: able to move the mobility is pretty pretty heavily affected
1:58:04
Speaker 2: right now. Because you'll notice he's wearing an entire lead suit.
1:58:08
Speaker 2: It's gonna make him faster for game time. You know
1:58:10
Speaker 2: that that apron they put on you when they're like
1:58:13
Speaker 2: at the Dennis when they're gonna do the X rays
1:58:14
Speaker 2: on your teeth. It's just that but pants shirt, one
1:58:21
Speaker 2: of those helmet covers. It's not the it's not the
1:58:25
Speaker 2: caprice shorts NFL pants thing. It's actually all the way
1:58:30
Speaker 2: down to the ankle.
1:58:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta well, especially when you're talking about ankle injuries.
1:58:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that that of course was is not true.
1:58:39
Speaker 2: If for anyone who believed that, No, it is, okay.
1:58:42
Speaker 3: I want to if you're silly enough to think so,
1:58:46
Speaker 3: you like you're picking your Niners. Of course, Look I
1:58:49
Speaker 3: can't for the Niners. That's like my that's my team
1:58:52
Speaker 3: in all sports. That's my the team I have shown
1:58:55
Speaker 3: the most inconsistent interest with from my childhood. So I
1:58:59
Speaker 3: can't pick with my head when it comes to the
1:59:01
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine.
1:59:02
Speaker 2: They're in a you pick with your You pick your team,
1:59:05
Speaker 2: even if at all signs might point to them being
1:59:08
Speaker 2: the inferior team. For whatever reason you pick your team,
1:59:11
Speaker 2: if they're in it.
1:59:12
Speaker 3: They're the biggest underdogs of the weekend, seven point dogs
1:59:15
Speaker 3: to Seattle in Seattle, So yeah, does it suck? Maybe,
1:59:21
Speaker 3: or maybe it's a great upset story because somehow they've
1:59:25
Speaker 3: gotten to this point and they've been without Fred Warner,
1:59:29
Speaker 3: They've been without Nick Bosa, they've been without Trent Williams
1:59:32
Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks, they were without Brock Purty
1:59:34
Speaker 3: for half the dang season, and they've been without Ayuk
1:59:38
Speaker 3: the whole year for pretty much. They it's kind of
1:59:42
Speaker 3: like what we're talking about with Utah football kits out
1:59:44
Speaker 3: now now and some of the next season. It's kind
1:59:48
Speaker 3: of like what we're talking about with the Utah football equation,
1:59:51
Speaker 3: where the names you know are gonna be good have
1:59:55
Speaker 3: moved on in the transfer portal, some of them right,
2:00:00
Speaker 3: and what comes back is a little bit less certain.
2:00:03
Speaker 3: With the San Francisco forty nine ers, they've been relying
2:00:06
Speaker 3: on guys that you didn't you didn't think you would
2:00:10
Speaker 3: have to rely on, and yet here they are now.
2:00:14
Speaker 3: They had the trump card of Christian McCaffrey being one
2:00:18
Speaker 3: of the best overall football players in the NFL, and
2:00:21
Speaker 3: he's gotten them scratching and clawing and doing whatever's necessary
2:00:27
Speaker 3: to this point, somewhat on his own in certain games.
2:00:31
Speaker 3: But a twelve and five San Francisco forty nine Ers
2:00:34
Speaker 3: team upset the Eagles last week, and now they've got
2:00:38
Speaker 3: the Seahawks.
2:00:40
Speaker 2: That is your late game on Saturday. I just to
2:00:44
Speaker 2: give my pick out here. I'm believing in the Niners magic,
2:00:49
Speaker 2: even though I'm with you, and not because they're my
2:00:53
Speaker 2: favorite team like in your case, but I just I'm
2:00:56
Speaker 2: gonna pick them until they lose. And maybe I won't
2:00:58
Speaker 2: pick them in the Super Bowl if they get if
2:01:00
Speaker 2: they somehow get that far, But in the end, in
2:01:04
Speaker 2: the NFC, I'm gonna pick him until they lose because
2:01:06
Speaker 2: they just keep defying the odds. Kyle Shanahan has proven
2:01:09
Speaker 2: to be that good of a coach as well. Do
2:01:12
Speaker 2: you realize he's not just I didn't know. I didn't
2:01:15
Speaker 2: realize this part. He's seven and oh in his forty
2:01:20
Speaker 2: nine Ers head coaching career in the wild card round.
2:01:23
Speaker 2: He's also seven and oh in the divisional round. They
2:01:26
Speaker 2: have when the Niners have been in the playoffs, they've
2:01:28
Speaker 2: made the NFC Championship Game and with how they've did
2:01:32
Speaker 2: not They've defied the odds so far. I'm I'm gonna
2:01:36
Speaker 2: stick with them until until they lose in the NFC.
2:01:39
Speaker 2: I like that, until there's a reason not to believe.
2:01:43
Speaker 2: We're gonna believe San Francisco forty nine ers upset and advance.
2:01:48
Speaker 3: And that means our guy, Chad, sales guy Chad has
2:01:51
Speaker 3: to put go Niners in his email signature and he's
2:01:56
Speaker 3: gonna send me.
2:01:56
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make him send every one of our listeners
2:01:58
Speaker 2: an email, so textas your emails so we can do that. Actually,
2:02:03
Speaker 2: I don't want our text line to be flooding.
2:02:05
Speaker 3: By the way, We've got fifteen minutes until we air
2:02:07
Speaker 3: our grievances here on The Sean O'Connell Show as we
2:02:10
Speaker 3: continue to go through a huge weekend in NFL Football
2:02:14
Speaker 3: Divisional playoff round the game that we're not able to
2:02:19
Speaker 3: give you because we're the home of the Utes and
2:02:20
Speaker 3: we've got men's and women's basketball broadcasts on, but obviously
2:02:25
Speaker 3: we're going to be watching these games. We're going to
2:02:26
Speaker 3: be talking about these games on Monday, and this is
2:02:30
Speaker 3: I think the one with the most local interest because
2:02:34
Speaker 3: the Broncos are kind of the long standing de facto
2:02:38
Speaker 3: home ish team for Salt Lake City, and then the
2:02:40
Speaker 3: Bills have the ute interest on their Broncos have a
2:02:45
Speaker 3: ton of that too, little Weaver State interest as well.
2:02:48
Speaker 3: So even though there's probably not a ton of Bills
2:02:51
Speaker 3: fans for the sake of being Bills fans and very
2:02:54
Speaker 3: few Buffalo New York connections, because the Buffalo Bills have
2:02:58
Speaker 3: had have right now and have had recently a lot
2:03:02
Speaker 3: of utes, I think that probably helps the Bills when
2:03:04
Speaker 3: it comes to the interest. Denver is a one and
2:03:08
Speaker 3: a half point favorite coming off the buy, and of
2:03:10
Speaker 3: course the Bills narrowly escaped against the Jacksonville Jaguars. This
2:03:16
Speaker 3: one is on CBS and Paramount Plus. It's a two
2:03:19
Speaker 3: thirty Mountain time kick, and I think, you know what again,
2:03:25
Speaker 3: pick with your heart not your head.
2:03:27
Speaker 2: I think that the Broncos, even though there's a bunch
2:03:29
Speaker 2: of dudes that have not done it before on that team,
2:03:32
Speaker 2: and even though there's a lot of people who are like, well,
2:03:34
Speaker 2: if not now, when for the Bills, I think never
2:03:38
Speaker 2: is the answer to that question. You're just a hater.
2:03:40
Speaker 2: I'm not a hater. I'm not a likeer either. I
2:03:45
Speaker 2: do want to see Cole Bishop have success.
2:03:46
Speaker 3: Dalton Kinkaid is one of my favorite guys that has
2:03:48
Speaker 3: come through the Utah program recently. But man, this Broncos
2:03:52
Speaker 3: team's got a bunch more utes even than the Bills do.
2:03:56
Speaker 3: And weirdly enough, I guess this is the ruboff that
2:04:02
Speaker 3: happens when you're with an you do radio with an
2:04:05
Speaker 3: Oregon duck. The bow Knicks thing, following Bo Nick's career
2:04:08
Speaker 3: so closely and seeing how many people doubted that bo
2:04:11
Speaker 3: Knicks was gonna be any good at Oregon after what
2:04:13
Speaker 3: happened to Auburn, and then seeing people doubt what bo
2:04:16
Speaker 3: Knicks was gonna be able to do as an NFL quarterback,
2:04:19
Speaker 3: and seeing our guy Garrett Bowles stick through like some
2:04:22
Speaker 3: really really really lean years with the Broncos to now
2:04:26
Speaker 3: be one of the highest paid, most respected offensive linemen
2:04:29
Speaker 3: in the NFL and to have this opportunity. Weirdly enough,
2:04:34
Speaker 3: I'm kind of sentimental and hoping that the Broncos can
2:04:37
Speaker 3: do this.
2:04:38
Speaker 2: Yes, see, I am sentimental and hoping for the opposite team.
2:04:42
Speaker 2: I just I really like Josh Allen and he's one
2:04:46
Speaker 2: of those that's like for me, he's too good to
2:04:50
Speaker 2: go throughout his career and not win something, not even
2:04:54
Speaker 2: at least get to the Super Bowl, if not win
2:04:56
Speaker 2: a championship. So I'm pulling, I pull really hard for
2:04:58
Speaker 2: Josh Allen these Bills, and I really like Dalton Kincaid
2:05:02
Speaker 2: and Cole Bishop of course. So and of course my
2:05:05
Speaker 2: wife has adopted the Bills. She loves Joshi as well
2:05:08
Speaker 2: as she calls him. So I'm I pull for the
2:05:13
Speaker 2: Bills hard for the reasons you're saying you're pulling for
2:05:15
Speaker 2: the Broncos hard. Here and I heard this on Rich Eisen.
2:05:20
Speaker 2: He started the Rich Eisen Show ten to eleven now
2:05:23
Speaker 2: here on ESPN seven hundred ninety two ONEFM. Right before
2:05:25
Speaker 2: this show, he started out with just giving a laundry
2:05:29
Speaker 2: list of great stats and facts about each of these teams,
2:05:34
Speaker 2: each of the teams that are remaining. And one of
2:05:36
Speaker 2: the things that he brought up about the Broncos and
2:05:41
Speaker 2: what the Bills are facing, so this is back to
2:05:44
Speaker 2: back weeks, they're facing a top two pass rush in
2:05:47
Speaker 2: the NFL. So the Jags apparently, according to Rich Eisen
2:05:51
Speaker 2: in whatever statistical service he was using, the Jags had
2:05:54
Speaker 2: the number one pass rush in the NFL. Broncos have
2:05:57
Speaker 2: the number two pass rush in the NFL. It's been
2:06:00
Speaker 2: since the since nineteen seventy four that a road team
2:06:05
Speaker 2: has won in the playoffs back back to back facing
2:06:09
Speaker 2: number one and then number two pass rush in the league.
2:06:13
Speaker 2: So that's the kind of odds that the Bills are
2:06:16
Speaker 2: going up against the history of the Bills are going
2:06:19
Speaker 2: up against in this. And if I'm the Bills and
2:06:23
Speaker 2: I'm Sean McDermott and I'm Josh Allen in particular, I'm
2:06:26
Speaker 2: going it doesn't matter that we're on the road. Do
2:06:31
Speaker 2: you know there's no one in this There's no one
2:06:33
Speaker 2: in the playoffs that has the experience that we have
2:06:36
Speaker 2: in the AFC side of things, and there's no one
2:06:39
Speaker 2: as talented as they should believe that they're more talented
2:06:42
Speaker 2: than everybody else as well. So I if this, if
2:06:45
Speaker 2: the Bills lose, no disrespect to the Broncos, this would
2:06:47
Speaker 2: feel like a massive failure for them. And I mean
2:06:53
Speaker 2: Weddell joined us yesterday and he said, I they have
2:06:55
Speaker 2: to get it done at some point, like yeah, being
2:06:58
Speaker 2: but that is the curse of the Buffalo Bills, right.
2:07:02
Speaker 2: You get to them and you don't win them.
2:07:03
Speaker 3: You get to you get to compete for but you
2:07:05
Speaker 3: don't win, and that we all know what that's like
2:07:07
Speaker 3: here in Salt Lake City, to be that fan base
2:07:11
Speaker 3: that is respectable and good, you would trade it all
2:07:15
Speaker 3: for one championship year. I know Bill was Bill Riley
2:07:19
Speaker 3: when he joined us today. He was mostly being facetious,
2:07:21
Speaker 3: but he's like, you got if you win multiple Super Bowls,
2:07:24
Speaker 3: you don't get to complain for the rest of your life.
2:07:26
Speaker 3: But it's kind of true, right if you get to
2:07:30
Speaker 3: have like a dynastic type run, if you get to
2:07:33
Speaker 3: win even one championship, but certainly if you win multiple.
2:07:36
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Warriors highlights here on the on the
2:07:40
Speaker 3: screen in front of me. Nobody in the Bay Area
2:07:43
Speaker 3: gets to complain about basketball ever. Again, like, not my generation,
2:07:46
Speaker 3: not the younger generation, not the older generation that followed
2:07:50
Speaker 3: the we believe Warriors and gave them great support before
2:07:53
Speaker 3: what Steve Kerr and Steph and Draymond and Klay Thompson
2:07:57
Speaker 3: and Kevin Durant temporarily did. Like you have to just
2:08:01
Speaker 3: be like, Wow, what a wonderful thing for me to
2:08:04
Speaker 3: experience in my life. For the Bills fan, for the
2:08:06
Speaker 3: Jazz fan, for the fan that is just like, man,
2:08:10
Speaker 3: we're almost there all the time. It is excruciating, and
2:08:17
Speaker 3: I imagine winters in Buffalo are excruciating enough. But they're
2:08:23
Speaker 3: gonna have another one because the Broncos are gonna advance.
2:08:26
Speaker 2: All Right, I got the other side of things. I
2:08:29
Speaker 2: got the Bills winning again, even though I would not
2:08:32
Speaker 2: be surprised if they fall again, because we've just seen
2:08:34
Speaker 2: that happen over and over again, as you outlined.
2:08:37
Speaker 3: All right, Pat's Texans New England is a three point
2:08:40
Speaker 3: favorite here. This one's gonna be bitterly cold. If I'm
2:08:43
Speaker 3: not mistaken.
2:08:45
Speaker 2: The Texans are their really interesting takeaway team. Can they
2:08:50
Speaker 2: rattle Drake May and end up making really I think
2:08:56
Speaker 2: the defensive plays necessary because offensively, and you heard what
2:09:00
Speaker 2: I'll talk about this also, Stroud is not going the
2:09:03
Speaker 2: right direction right now. The offense is not going the
2:09:05
Speaker 2: right direction right now. Houston is incredibly reliant on the
2:09:10
Speaker 2: defense to make the plays necessary to keep them in
2:09:12
Speaker 2: games and even a score points for him in a
2:09:15
Speaker 2: nasty cold weather game. I'd probably want to lean on
2:09:18
Speaker 2: my defense anyway, But geez, I just have a hard
2:09:22
Speaker 2: time buying into what the Texans are producing at this moment. Yeah,
2:09:27
Speaker 2: so this is the game that and it was the
2:09:30
Speaker 2: Texans game against the Steelers too. Back to back weeks,
2:09:35
Speaker 2: I find myself really wanting the Texans to win because
2:09:39
Speaker 2: I'm a Buckeyes fan. CJ. Shrouds, the quarterback Kate Stover
2:09:43
Speaker 2: is also a Buck guy. A nice connection for him
2:09:46
Speaker 2: at tight end. You got those connections for me. I
2:09:51
Speaker 2: want to root for the Texans despite being a Colts
2:09:54
Speaker 2: fan there in their division rival too. I want to
2:09:56
Speaker 2: root for them, and I will in this case. I
2:10:00
Speaker 2: I found myself not rooting for them against the Steelers
2:10:03
Speaker 2: because I want because I wanted the Bills to get
2:10:05
Speaker 2: through the AFC more and the Steelers are obviously a much,
2:10:08
Speaker 2: a vastly inferior opponent to the Texans. I'm gonna root
2:10:13
Speaker 2: for the Texans this week, but for back to back weeks,
2:10:15
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I believe enough in them to get
2:10:20
Speaker 2: this done for the I mean, Stroud does not look
2:10:23
Speaker 2: like himself, does not look like he really hasn't looked
2:10:26
Speaker 2: the same since his incredible rookie year. Right, it's worse
2:10:30
Speaker 2: this year than last year. Even so, I as good
2:10:33
Speaker 2: as that defense is, this is on the road they
2:10:37
Speaker 2: play in Houston inside, and I just I'm not sure
2:10:41
Speaker 2: I believe even that great of a defense can go
2:10:45
Speaker 2: into cold weather like they're gonna face in New England.
2:10:48
Speaker 2: And I'm a Patriots hater like a lot of people.
2:10:51
Speaker 2: That's another reason why I'm pulling for the Texans this week.
2:10:54
Speaker 2: But I hate to say it, I think I think
2:10:56
Speaker 2: Patriots canna pull this one out. Rams Bears a lot
2:11:02
Speaker 2: of the year. Most of the year, I would say
2:11:05
Speaker 2: people looked at the LA Rams and said, no one's
2:11:07
Speaker 2: gonna beat them.
2:11:08
Speaker 3: That's a super Bowl team again. Sean McVay is an
2:11:10
Speaker 3: incredible coach and play caller. Matt Stafford is such an
2:11:15
Speaker 3: experienced guy. He's seasoned, and he's got the support around him.
2:11:19
Speaker 3: He's got the talent, he's got a lot of people
2:11:22
Speaker 3: think the best young wide receiver in the league, maybe
2:11:24
Speaker 3: the best overall wide receiver in the league, a guy
2:11:26
Speaker 3: with obvious local connections here in Pukinakua, and the Rams
2:11:33
Speaker 3: sort of, I won't say, back their way in, but
2:11:37
Speaker 3: they didn't necessarily end up as dominant as mid season
2:11:43
Speaker 3: form would have suggested.
2:11:44
Speaker 2: It took him a couple of weeks, or it.
2:11:46
Speaker 3: Took him it took him a little while, like into
2:11:50
Speaker 3: Week five before they started to really look like the
2:11:52
Speaker 3: team that they ended up becoming. Mid season, it was like,
2:11:54
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, what are you gonna do against the squad?
2:11:57
Speaker 3: Then the Niners beat them, and then they kind of
2:12:00
Speaker 3: they've won their last two games, and they won their
2:12:02
Speaker 3: last regular season game against the Texans, which now we
2:12:06
Speaker 3: know is a more impressive win than maybe I was
2:12:07
Speaker 3: giving it credit for at the time. But this Rams team,
2:12:13
Speaker 3: I don't know how we've seen the best version of
2:12:14
Speaker 3: them yet. I don't know that this that this particular
2:12:17
Speaker 3: iteration of the Rams, now that we're in the playoffs,
2:12:20
Speaker 3: and now that it's like a half veteran squad half
2:12:24
Speaker 3: young squad, that the veterans side doesn't come out and say,
2:12:27
Speaker 3: all right, this is how you have to prepare, this
2:12:29
Speaker 3: is what you have to do. This is where the
2:12:31
Speaker 3: playoff wins are different than the regular season wins. This
2:12:35
Speaker 3: is what we've been waiting for all season long. We
2:12:37
Speaker 3: had a great season, but now it's time for us
2:12:39
Speaker 3: to show that we are the most dominant team in
2:12:42
Speaker 3: the NFL. We have the potential, especially in our passing game,
2:12:45
Speaker 3: to be, you know, even better than we've been and
2:12:48
Speaker 3: that's that's where the Rams scare me. The Bears do not.
2:12:53
Speaker 3: I am not threatened by the Bears. I know they
2:12:55
Speaker 3: feel a little bit ahead of schedule. I know people
2:12:57
Speaker 3: love the marriage between this coaching staff and Caleb Williams.
2:13:02
Speaker 3: And Caleb Williams is enough of a problem from an
2:13:05
Speaker 3: off script performance standpoint that he's probably gonna make a
2:13:09
Speaker 3: couple of plays in this game that keep the Bears
2:13:11
Speaker 3: closer than they belong. But to me, this just feels
2:13:15
Speaker 3: like the easiest pick of the weekend that it's going
2:13:17
Speaker 3: to be a Rams victory, which is probably why I'll
2:13:19
Speaker 3: be wrong.
2:13:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Rams in this game, although my
2:13:24
Speaker 2: heart is kind of pulling for the Bears just because
2:13:27
Speaker 2: they I think they're a great story. It's been a
2:13:29
Speaker 2: really long time since the Bears have looked this formidable.
2:13:33
Speaker 2: I just Caleb Williams has been shaky enough that even
2:13:38
Speaker 2: though he turns it on, he's been able to turn
2:13:41
Speaker 2: it on really well in the fourth quarter, like so
2:13:43
Speaker 2: many fourth quarter comebacks, including last week. I just I
2:13:46
Speaker 2: think that that's that's something that could come back to
2:13:49
Speaker 2: bite them if the Rams get up by a couple
2:13:52
Speaker 2: of touchdowns I don't think they're the team that these
2:13:56
Speaker 2: Bears and Caleb Williams can come back against. That being said,
2:14:02
Speaker 2: like their defense has been so good to get at
2:14:05
Speaker 2: getting takeaways. If that's if that's the kind of game
2:14:08
Speaker 2: we see. Obviously the Rams are super vulnerable, but I
2:14:13
Speaker 2: I like the Rams in this game. I think the
2:14:15
Speaker 2: magic's gonna run out for Chicago and I think that
2:14:18
Speaker 2: we're gonna this might be the week that we finally
2:14:21
Speaker 2: see what you just said, the veteran presence of these
2:14:24
Speaker 2: Rams and the talent finally come to fruition and be like, yeah,
2:14:29
Speaker 2: We're We're that team in the NFC. So Niners Rams
2:14:33
Speaker 2: in a in an NFC Championship game, proving that the
2:14:37
Speaker 2: NFC West is the best division in football. I mean,
2:14:41
Speaker 2: we already know that because three of the four teams
2:14:43
Speaker 2: that have made it to this point are all from
2:14:44
Speaker 2: the same division. And then on the opposite side, we're
2:14:48
Speaker 2: going We're going Pat's Broncos and you're going Pats Bills. Yeah,
2:14:52
Speaker 2: you're going Pat's Broncos. I'm going Pats Bills. Be fun matchup,
2:14:57
Speaker 2: fun matchup either way. In the AFC Championship Game, Pat's
2:15:00
Speaker 2: Broncos will feel like new blood, even though even though
2:15:04
Speaker 2: it's the Patriots, but it's like a brand new era
2:15:07
Speaker 2: of the Patriots and Broncos. It's been what ten years,
2:15:10
Speaker 2: eleven years since they've been in this position. Here's what
2:15:13
Speaker 2: I want if if Pat's Broncos ends up being the
2:15:16
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, I want Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and
2:15:21
Speaker 2: the regular broadcast team. Yeah, that's what I want. Yeah,
2:15:27
Speaker 2: those guys had their career long rivalry with one another.
2:15:30
Speaker 2: And if it's Bills Pats, I want Drew Bledsoe, tom Brady. No,
2:15:35
Speaker 2: just kidding, No, No, I don't know how any of
2:15:41
Speaker 2: you people get behind the Bills. Man. I can't. I
2:15:43
Speaker 2: just can't. They're like they're the brave, like the braves
2:15:47
Speaker 2: are that for me. I don't have a good We've
2:15:51
Speaker 2: talked about this forere I don't have a good reason
2:15:52
Speaker 2: to not like them. Yeah, I just have never liked them.
2:15:55
Speaker 2: That's that's the Bills. Like you just you you don't
2:15:58
Speaker 2: like the cut of their gym. I think it might
2:15:59
Speaker 2: just be team from New York Bills in the NFL.
2:16:03
Speaker 2: I used to be a huge Knicks fan in the NFL, specifically,
2:16:06
Speaker 2: Bills don't like them, don't watch them even when they're
2:16:09
Speaker 2: good necessarily. The only reason that I've waffled on that
2:16:12
Speaker 2: is because they had you know, mutes, they had star
2:16:15
Speaker 2: Lott to La, they had Zach Moss. Now they've got Dalton,
2:16:18
Speaker 2: Now they got Cole like they got Taron Johnson. There's
2:16:21
Speaker 2: all these local connections, local connections. I'm just like, all right, fine,
2:16:24
Speaker 2: I'll watch that. You like Josh Allen, No, he's fine, right, weirdo.
2:16:32
Speaker 2: The reason I don't like Josh Allen as much as
2:16:34
Speaker 2: other people do is because Josh Allen proved me wrong
2:16:38
Speaker 2: when he was coming out of Wyoming and everyone was
2:16:41
Speaker 2: going bananas over him. I'm just like, because I watched
2:16:44
Speaker 2: I had watched a lot of Utah State, I wasn't
2:16:46
Speaker 2: one of those people at the time, and I was
2:16:47
Speaker 2: just like, he's not gonna be great. He wasn't even
2:16:49
Speaker 2: great at Wyoming. Yeah, I was a huge skeptic too,
2:16:52
Speaker 2: but he I just like how he's proved me wrong.
2:16:54
Speaker 3: It's really weird because there's some guys they go to
2:16:56
Speaker 3: like a an easier level or an easier conference, right,
2:17:00
Speaker 3: and they're just like disgustingly dominant in that environment, and
2:17:04
Speaker 3: you're just like, oh this guy. And obviously this is
2:17:06
Speaker 3: pre transfer portal era. Nowadays, Josh Allen would not have
2:17:09
Speaker 3: been a Wyoming quarterback. He would maybe would have started
2:17:11
Speaker 3: there and he would have ended up at USC or whatever. Right,
2:17:15
Speaker 3: but like Randy Moss at Marshall, you know what I mean,
2:17:17
Speaker 3: it's like obvious he doesn't belong there. That guy should
2:17:21
Speaker 3: be the best wide receiver wherever he's at.
2:17:25
Speaker 2: Josh Allen never did that, right. Camp Scattabu was that
2:17:29
Speaker 2: Camp Scattaboo. At Sack State. You were just like, oh my,
2:17:34
Speaker 2: this is a man among boys. And then he went
2:17:35
Speaker 2: to Arizona State and it was still, oh my, this
2:17:38
Speaker 2: is a man among boys. And then he went to
2:17:39
Speaker 2: the NFL and just like, yep, he is who we
2:17:42
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be. Unfortunately he got hurt. But man,
2:17:46
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was not that. Josh Allen was just like.
2:17:51
Speaker 3: A traits and tools kind of a pick, and he
2:17:55
Speaker 3: ended up living up to the hype.
2:17:57
Speaker 2: And I didn't think so. So that's why I'm not
2:17:58
Speaker 2: a big Josh Allen fan, because I don't like to
2:18:00
Speaker 2: be wrong. See, That's that's what's hilarious about this dynamic.
2:18:05
Speaker 2: Me and you because I like that he proved us
2:18:09
Speaker 2: wrong and he's in he's just so fun to watch like.
2:18:13
Speaker 2: And also the other reason why, the other reason I
2:18:15
Speaker 2: can't deny is to why I've gravitated towards towards Josh
2:18:19
Speaker 2: Allen and and pulling for the Bills most years in
2:18:23
Speaker 2: the playoffs in his tenure, is that they're the anti Chiefs,
2:18:28
Speaker 2: and that's fair. The villain the Chiefs became the villain
2:18:31
Speaker 2: of the NFL unless you're a Chiefs fan. And so
2:18:34
Speaker 2: the fact that they were the team that looks like
2:18:36
Speaker 2: they could knock him off, it's endearing to me. I
2:18:39
Speaker 2: will say, I'm a big fan of Josh Allen's wife.
2:18:43
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Harry Steinfield. She was great as an addition
2:18:46
Speaker 2: to the Pitch Perfect franchise. Yes, okay, shout out to Flashlight.
2:18:50
Speaker 2: Her performance in True Grit fantastic. I think that was
2:18:54
Speaker 2: like her first major movie, Sinners. Have you seen Sinners yet?
2:18:58
Speaker 2: Not seen Sinners yet? Check that out. She's good. It's
2:19:02
Speaker 2: a good actress. And they're expecting now did you see that?
2:19:05
Speaker 2: Congratulationspecting their first child. That's great. My wife's it's over
2:19:09
Speaker 2: the moon for Joshi and Haley. That child. Uh congrats
2:19:14
Speaker 2: on your genetics. Well done, absolutely all right. Airing of
2:19:18
Speaker 2: grievances is next.
2:19:29
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sean O'Connell show, your source for
2:19:32
Speaker 1: the best youth football couple. Here's oc from the Murdoch
2:19:35
Speaker 1: Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two one
2:19:39
Speaker 1: half an. The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing
2:19:45
Speaker 1: of grievances. I got a lot of problems with your people,
2:19:49
Speaker 1: now you've been to hear about it.
2:19:53
Speaker 2: Eight seven seventy three five three zero seven hundred Air
2:19:56
Speaker 2: your Grievance.
2:20:01
Speaker 3: Thirteen eighty eight says grievance with James calling another grown
2:20:04
Speaker 3: man Joshi.
2:20:04
Speaker 2: Come on, that's that's me. Because my wife doesn't have
2:20:09
Speaker 2: a radio show. I gotta I gotta represent for her.
2:20:12
Speaker 2: She she's calling him Josh. That comes from a Jay.
2:20:19
Speaker 2: Say you've this person who texted is named Jase Jason
2:20:22
Speaker 2: text in. Are you from Sandy? Are you from that
2:20:25
Speaker 2: that family? Do you know? Oh? Because the last name
2:20:28
Speaker 2: yea familiar there? Yeah.
2:20:30
Speaker 3: Eight seven seven three three zero seven hundred Air your Grievances.
2:20:34
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go. I gotta get a couple
2:20:36
Speaker 3: things off my chest here.
2:20:37
Speaker 2: All right, Sorry, I just saw that someone actually gave
2:20:40
Speaker 2: us their email for when for when sales get chat
2:20:44
Speaker 2: in the Seahawks loose. You go ahead and get that
2:20:47
Speaker 2: off yours. I'm gonna get this green. Okay.
2:20:51
Speaker 3: First of all, my household, there's a plague upon my
2:20:55
Speaker 3: front porch every day of Amazon packages. And I know
2:20:58
Speaker 3: that's not I'm not gonnair that grievance because you know,
2:21:02
Speaker 3: happy wife, happy life.
2:21:03
Speaker 2: But here's my problem. Amazon.
2:21:08
Speaker 3: If the product already comes in a box, if it's
2:21:13
Speaker 3: already boxed, don't put it in another box.
2:21:18
Speaker 2: Don't.
2:21:19
Speaker 3: I don't want to open Amazon box and find like
2:21:23
Speaker 3: the whatever box that happened so much over Christmas, that
2:21:29
Speaker 3: happened again yesterday. I slice open the box and Amazon
2:21:32
Speaker 3: has done.
2:21:33
Speaker 2: A marvelous job of their tape, that black tape they
2:21:38
Speaker 2: put on the boxes. Now it is the exact right
2:21:41
Speaker 2: difficulty to get through where you can't just like pop
2:21:43
Speaker 2: it open with your bare fingers. But you don't need
2:21:46
Speaker 2: anything special. You got a pencil, you got a key,
2:21:49
Speaker 2: you gotta coin anything. It's the exact right consistency. Yeah,
2:21:53
Speaker 2: it's and it's it's hard to do it just with
2:21:56
Speaker 2: your fingers. But it's but it's not impossible either. But
2:22:00
Speaker 2: then when you all do that thing up and you
2:22:02
Speaker 2: see the box and then there's just like some paper
2:22:05
Speaker 2: to fill the airspace and another box. Don't do that.
2:22:08
Speaker 2: Just put the label on the box, the original box,
2:22:11
Speaker 2: put an Amazon label, throw some Amazon tape around it.
2:22:14
Speaker 2: I don't want another box that I have to flatten out,
2:22:18
Speaker 2: that I have to feel guilty about destroying the rainforest
2:22:22
Speaker 2: and all the paper pulp. Stop it. There's enough boxes
2:22:26
Speaker 2: already in the world. Don't add boxes to put boxes in.
2:22:31
Speaker 2: I hate this too, oce like and I don't know.
2:22:34
Speaker 2: It seemed like they haven't always done this. It seems
2:22:37
Speaker 2: like it's a relatively new thing where something that's already
2:22:41
Speaker 2: boxed needs another box. It doesn't need the box. I
2:22:43
Speaker 2: think it's because they want it to be an Amazon
2:22:46
Speaker 2: box on your porch instead of it being like, oh,
2:22:50
Speaker 2: that's a Nike box with an Amazon label on it.
2:22:52
Speaker 2: I just usually it's it's like the smaller box items
2:22:58
Speaker 2: they put a bigger Amazon, they put it in a
2:23:00
Speaker 2: bigger Amazon box. Just put it in the Amazon the
2:23:03
Speaker 2: white Amazon bag. Then if you have to like, just
2:23:06
Speaker 2: just do that. If you got just don't do it.
2:23:09
Speaker 2: Stop it spray painted Amazon spray paint. I don't care.
2:23:13
Speaker 2: Just don't give me extra boxes please. Also, and this
2:23:18
Speaker 2: one has been ooh, this has been sticking in my craw.
2:23:21
Speaker 2: I need to talk to someone in Big Utensil. All right,
2:23:25
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's an industry monopoly somewhere grievance against the
2:23:31
Speaker 2: fragile nature of plastic forks these days.
2:23:35
Speaker 3: I'm not exaggerating. The last four times I have eaten
2:23:38
Speaker 3: with a plastic fork. That fork is broken today today
2:23:42
Speaker 3: I lost two times. I'm having my hot lunch from
2:23:47
Speaker 3: Big Willies.
2:23:47
Speaker 2: I'm trying to stab into a piece of that perfectly
2:23:52
Speaker 2: crispy chicken cutlet on the crispy cobb salad. Right, it's
2:23:57
Speaker 2: not excessively hard, it's delightful. It's got the right kind
2:24:00
Speaker 2: of crunch, and I try to put a fork into it. Snap. Snap.
2:24:05
Speaker 2: So now I finished my hot lunch with a two
2:24:09
Speaker 2: time fork.
2:24:09
Speaker 3: Uh huh, with a torque. I don't like you plastic
2:24:13
Speaker 3: fork manufacturers. Right now, there was a time where a
2:24:16
Speaker 3: plastic fork had just the right amount of bend and
2:24:19
Speaker 3: give to it, so it didn't snap like that. The
2:24:22
Speaker 3: integrity of the fork was maintained almost regardless of.
2:24:25
Speaker 2: The pressure you put on it. Being realistic here, now
2:24:29
Speaker 2: you go beyond like three pounds of pressure. Snap, uh huh,
2:24:33
Speaker 2: it's garbage. Literally you have to throw it in the
2:24:36
Speaker 2: garbage after that. So those are my grievances today, James, Yeah,
2:24:40
Speaker 2: I I in regards to that, I used to make
2:24:43
Speaker 2: fun of my dad all the time because he would
2:24:47
Speaker 2: bite down so hard that he would break the tongs
2:24:52
Speaker 2: off plastic forks. Not every time, but enough times that
2:24:54
Speaker 2: it was like, gez, like, you don't have to eat
2:24:57
Speaker 2: the utensil too, Dad, Now you can do that even
2:25:01
Speaker 2: if you're even if you don't bite down the way
2:25:03
Speaker 2: my dad used to bite down on plastic forks. I'm
2:25:05
Speaker 2: with you. They didn't make them the way they used to. See,
2:25:10
Speaker 2: they don't make them the way they use. Do you
2:25:12
Speaker 2: do you want an Aaron grievance before I get to
2:25:14
Speaker 2: the text line here, let's get we can get to
2:25:15
Speaker 2: the text line all right, thirty eight to sixty nine
2:25:18
Speaker 2: grievance four in cabals Now I think we all run
2:25:21
Speaker 2: like Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds.
2:25:23
Speaker 3: Yes, a callback to earlier in the show today when
2:25:25
Speaker 3: the pat McAfee show had a NERD relay on, and
2:25:28
Speaker 3: you were showing red blooded American males running around in there,
2:25:32
Speaker 3: like what late twenties, early thirties, looking as though they
2:25:35
Speaker 3: had never run in their lives.
2:25:38
Speaker 2: There was one in particular, there was a couple, a
2:25:40
Speaker 2: couple of the guys on the relay crew is particularly
2:25:43
Speaker 2: I think the third guy who ran. The third guy
2:25:45
Speaker 2: was great. It was incredible. Boy at the end, big
2:25:47
Speaker 2: fat guy at the end, probably a lineman, you know what,
2:25:49
Speaker 2: high level he's run before. You could tell that guy's
2:25:52
Speaker 2: run before. He had some coordination. The first two guys,
2:25:55
Speaker 2: it was a travesty. It was incredibly embarrassing. The second
2:25:58
Speaker 2: guy in particular as flailing. I I'm watching it. I
2:26:03
Speaker 2: found myself watching it and going, he's gonna fall over,
2:26:08
Speaker 2: and then miraculously he did. I especially thought when they
2:26:11
Speaker 2: had the as you pointed out, not that deep of
2:26:15
Speaker 2: me of a steep of an incline, but they had
2:26:17
Speaker 2: the at the dip at the end, I thought he
2:26:19
Speaker 2: was gonna go down well, and he didn't.
2:26:21
Speaker 3: So uh twenty eighty nine. I share your grievance. I
2:26:26
Speaker 3: cannot bring it to the air. Okay, I'm sorry, I
2:26:28
Speaker 3: hope you understand Jordan Peters grievance on everyone doubting the
2:26:34
Speaker 3: Niners this weekend.
2:26:35
Speaker 2: I do believe they're going to win. Go Niners, all right.
2:26:38
Speaker 3: I like that anti grievance on you, the opposite of
2:26:41
Speaker 3: a grievance support grievance. I don't typically complain about the
2:26:45
Speaker 3: weather in our great state, but no snow, no more.
2:26:47
Speaker 3: You really have any kind and now inversion is not fun.
2:26:51
Speaker 3: Look I have, I've actually really enjoyed the mild winter.
2:26:55
Speaker 3: I know we need water. I know that the ski
2:26:57
Speaker 3: resorts need their snow. I had a nice little storm
2:27:01
Speaker 3: that gave them a good base to lay on. The inversion, though,
2:27:05
Speaker 3: really does really does suck.
2:27:07
Speaker 2: It is gross. It's like soupy and thick. It's terrible,
2:27:14
Speaker 2: And I like many people a family members who who
2:27:19
Speaker 2: have asthma or that kind of related stuff going on,
2:27:22
Speaker 2: and so you feel for you feel for those people
2:27:25
Speaker 2: in your lives too that happen to live up here.
2:27:29
Speaker 2: Brown Bear says the bears are dangerous because they don't
2:27:32
Speaker 2: realize they aren't supposed to be there, riding high on
2:27:34
Speaker 2: their own supply of belief right now, I like supply
2:27:37
Speaker 2: of belief as a phrase. I don't like that the
2:27:40
Speaker 2: Bears think they can win well. I mean, Brown Bear,
2:27:43
Speaker 2: of course, is a supporter of all the Bears, even
2:27:46
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears in this case, so that makes sense.
2:27:49
Speaker 2: He's not a Bears fan, but he has to support
2:27:52
Speaker 2: other Bears. List of grievances. We got a whole list
2:27:55
Speaker 2: of grievances from nineteen forty three. I like this nineteen
2:27:58
Speaker 2: forty three. Thank you for your engage.
2:28:01
Speaker 3: Greevans number one. Not hearing Scott Mitchell on the air anymore.
2:28:03
Speaker 3: I hope his health isn't the reason he's no longer on.
2:28:06
Speaker 3: To my knowledge, Scott is fully healthy and good as
2:28:09
Speaker 3: far as we know. Greevous number two, Utah Jazz Dallas
2:28:13
Speaker 3: MAVs last night. On the positive side, Utah took care
2:28:15
Speaker 3: of Dallas on the ice here at home last night.
2:28:18
Speaker 3: That's right, Mammoth Stars was a lot more important in
2:28:22
Speaker 3: the short term than Jazz MAVs. Okay, nineteen forty three,
2:28:28
Speaker 3: says Grievance on us gonna give him the Voldemort treatment.
2:28:33
Speaker 3: As you're reading this, Grievance giving the former head coach
2:28:36
Speaker 3: the Voldemorre treatment. His name is not Voldemort. Look, we're
2:28:41
Speaker 3: doing it tug and cheek.
2:28:43
Speaker 2: But the reason it's an over compensation because we were
2:28:47
Speaker 2: talking way the head coach of Utah football is Morgan
2:28:51
Speaker 2: Bleepin' Scally. Moving forward, Okay, we are the only sports
2:28:56
Speaker 2: talk radio program in the country that was ending a
2:29:01
Speaker 2: week talking about the guy that just left. Now, had
2:29:06
Speaker 2: it been a retirement, the tributes would extend into the
2:29:11
Speaker 2: new year, into the new season, right, And when he
2:29:15
Speaker 2: does walk away and retire from the game, I will
2:29:18
Speaker 2: be the first to say, all right, now build the statue. Now,
2:29:21
Speaker 2: let's forget about the the ugly end, and now let's
2:29:25
Speaker 2: talk about the legacy and how great it was and
2:29:28
Speaker 2: those special twenty one years and whatever. But man, I
2:29:33
Speaker 2: was sick of hearing my own self say that name
2:29:36
Speaker 2: over and over and over again because he was gone
2:29:39
Speaker 2: and he is gone, and because of that, we're going
2:29:43
Speaker 2: to do the Baltimore thing. He also adds go Broncos
2:29:46
Speaker 2: at the end. Is that part of the list of grievances?
2:29:50
Speaker 2: Now I'm just kidding. Okay, Yeah, good for him. I
2:29:53
Speaker 2: will say I only have one problem with his with
2:29:57
Speaker 2: his list of grievances, and that is grievance Jazz versus Maps. No,
2:30:02
Speaker 2: it was a positive outcome for both the professional teams
2:30:06
Speaker 2: that played Dallas last night. The Jazz lost, which is
2:30:09
Speaker 2: something they need to do for one more year, and
2:30:14
Speaker 2: the Mammoth. The Mammoth gotta gutty win against a really
2:30:19
Speaker 2: good Stars team. So I disagree with grievance number two
2:30:25
Speaker 2: forty six to eleven. This is a phenomenal grievance, all right.
2:30:29
Speaker 3: Grievance people walk their dogs, bring a bag to pick
2:30:32
Speaker 3: up the poop, but then leave the bag for others
2:30:34
Speaker 3: to pick up.
2:30:35
Speaker 2: Come on, folks, what's up with that? I cannot tell
2:30:38
Speaker 2: you how much I hate this, all right. I live
2:30:41
Speaker 2: very close to one of the trailheads on the Bonneville
2:30:44
Speaker 2: Shoreline Trail. Everybody takes their dogs up there. There is
2:30:48
Speaker 2: a bag dispenser right at the trailhead, so everyone has
2:30:52
Speaker 2: a bag, whether they're responsible dog owners or not. You're
2:30:55
Speaker 2: just like, oh, yeah, I forgot one bag dispenser, pop
2:30:58
Speaker 2: this thing, and then I won't. I don't know what
2:31:02
Speaker 2: the percentage is, It feels like probably thirty to forty
2:31:05
Speaker 2: percent of people they will bag the poop, but then
2:31:09
Speaker 2: just tie it in a little bow and leave it
2:31:10
Speaker 2: on the side of the trail, and maybe your intention
2:31:13
Speaker 2: is that I don't want to carry it the whole
2:31:15
Speaker 2: way on my hike.
2:31:16
Speaker 3: I'll pick it up on the way back. But then
2:31:18
Speaker 3: you never do Everyone forgets that makes sense. Who wants
2:31:21
Speaker 3: to carry a bag of poop around with them?
2:31:24
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I don't want to do. Pick
2:31:25
Speaker 2: it up on the way back. I don't want to
2:31:27
Speaker 2: do it, James. I do it every single morning. You
2:31:29
Speaker 2: want to know why I do it every single morning
2:31:31
Speaker 2: because Rocky, who's here with me in the studio. I
2:31:34
Speaker 2: got Rocky. Yeah, we're talking about him. Hi, Bud, the
2:31:39
Speaker 2: handsomest dog in the world. You can oh no that sorry,
2:31:43
Speaker 2: that's your pant leg. That's the khaki pants is similar
2:31:46
Speaker 2: to his coat. Maybe I was gonna say, you might
2:31:47
Speaker 2: be able to see him on the YouTube chain. I
2:31:50
Speaker 2: don't want to mess with that. Well, maybe if he
2:31:52
Speaker 2: comes out and let sprawls on it out on the
2:31:54
Speaker 2: ground behind you, like he want to do, here's the
2:31:57
Speaker 2: thing he'll go to see him. I walk Rocky to
2:32:01
Speaker 2: school with my daughter every morning, right, and Rocky's morning
2:32:04
Speaker 2: routine is he's got a whole load built up overnight.
2:32:09
Speaker 3: Okay, he's a big dog too. He's one hundred and
2:32:11
Speaker 3: thirty five ish pounds right now. Okayh he's a growing boy.
2:32:15
Speaker 3: He's a massiff. So he think of the beast from
2:32:18
Speaker 3: Sandlot he is.
2:32:19
Speaker 2: That's him. And he will deposit his offering every single
2:32:25
Speaker 2: morning on the way home from the walk to school.
2:32:27
Speaker 2: It's in one of two neighbors lawns. He only likes
2:32:30
Speaker 2: to do it in these two lawns, all right. And
2:32:34
Speaker 2: guess whose job it is to pick that bad boy up?
2:32:37
Speaker 2: It's me? And do I want to do it? No?
2:32:40
Speaker 2: You know how what I hate putting the bag over
2:32:42
Speaker 2: my hand and using it as like a plastic glove.
2:32:45
Speaker 2: It's the worst feeling in the world. And because of
2:32:48
Speaker 2: the volume we're talking about here, he's a big dog both.
2:32:51
Speaker 2: I have large hands, James. If I was if I
2:32:54
Speaker 2: was a quarterback at the NFL Combine, I'd be in
2:32:57
Speaker 2: like the top five every year. Okay, I've measured, and
2:33:02
Speaker 2: I have to kind of like, you know, you gotta
2:33:04
Speaker 2: do like the gather, which means you got to engage
2:33:08
Speaker 2: with it a lot longer than you want to. But
2:33:11
Speaker 2: I'm a master of the fold over tie. That bad
2:33:15
Speaker 2: boy shut now, Do you think I leave that on
2:33:19
Speaker 2: the sidewalk. Absolutely not. Do you think that I just
2:33:22
Speaker 2: casually drop it in the gutter to be washed down
2:33:25
Speaker 2: downstream to the bottom of the avenues while you peasants live. No,
2:33:31
Speaker 2: all right, that felt unnecessary the peasants. It was I
2:33:35
Speaker 2: carry that thing uphill, and James weighs at least a
2:33:39
Speaker 2: pound every morning. Okay, gosh, I carry that thing uphill
2:33:42
Speaker 2: Wolf Rocky, and I finished the walk, and I throw
2:33:47
Speaker 2: it in the outdoor garbage or every once in a
2:33:50
Speaker 2: while if I see a garbage that's out, like on
2:33:53
Speaker 2: the street, I'll put it in somebody else's garbage. But
2:33:55
Speaker 2: I'm putting you where it belongs. That is one of
2:33:57
Speaker 2: the best grievances that we've had air. If you are
2:34:00
Speaker 2: walk it's it's honestly better that you not even pick
2:34:03
Speaker 2: it up if you're gonna leave it in the bag somewhere,
2:34:06
Speaker 2: because at least it'll bio d grade if you just
2:34:08
Speaker 2: leave it out in the like it dries out after
2:34:10
Speaker 2: a couple of days, it turns all crumbly. It's not
2:34:14
Speaker 2: the end of the world. Flies even nice dinner, you
2:34:17
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, if you're gonna leave it
2:34:19
Speaker 2: in a bag where it's just gonna humidify it. Gross. Yeah,
2:34:25
Speaker 2: I I absolutely despise this as well. And I there's
2:34:31
Speaker 2: people that get mad when it's trash day and everyone's
2:34:34
Speaker 2: garbage can is out. Why are you putting your dog's
2:34:37
Speaker 2: poop in my trash can? Put it in my trash can.
2:34:40
Speaker 2: I don't care, just don't leave it out. I also
2:34:45
Speaker 2: have to ask her. These neighbors that is Rockies preferred toilet,
2:34:50
Speaker 2: are they they flew their dog people? Yeah, they're not
2:34:54
Speaker 2: the ones that have the sign that says please, don't please,
2:34:58
Speaker 2: please be nice and don't let don't let your dog
2:35:00
Speaker 2: pee on my lawn. No, there is someone who I go,
2:35:03
Speaker 2: we go one of two walking routes. We go one
2:35:06
Speaker 2: of two walking routes. He comes on the morning walk
2:35:09
Speaker 2: and then I take him on a night or an
2:35:10
Speaker 2: evening walk. Right and one of the walking routes.
2:35:15
Speaker 3: Uh, there's a person who has that like no dogs
2:35:19
Speaker 3: on the lawn type sign, And I'm just like please,
2:35:24
Speaker 3: it's I understand I don't want dogs pooping on my
2:35:26
Speaker 3: lawn and not being picked up, but don't even let
2:35:31
Speaker 3: your dog pee on my grass. Don't let your dog
2:35:32
Speaker 3: poop up, stop it.
2:35:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand the not wanting poop on the grass
2:35:40
Speaker 2: more than the pee on the grass. Don't let them
2:35:43
Speaker 2: pee on my grass sign is so stupid, Like why
2:35:47
Speaker 2: did why did anyone let those signs get made? Why
2:35:50
Speaker 2: would anyone make those signs for anyone? Maybe maybe they
2:35:52
Speaker 2: make them for themselves using a website or something. It's
2:35:55
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous, creeven. It's too much Rocky talking, not enough
2:35:59
Speaker 2: Rocky shot on the YouTube stream. Yeah. He he likes
2:36:02
Speaker 2: to hide under the desk. Yeah, like he's just a
2:36:05
Speaker 2: good dog. He likes to sit under the desk. This
2:36:06
Speaker 2: thing is too grievance. The cameras are too stationary. Okay,
2:36:11
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want me to do, you
2:36:14
Speaker 2: know it? Tell you what.
2:36:15
Speaker 3: On the break, I'm gonna post a picture Rocky on
2:36:18
Speaker 3: Twitter so everyone can find do that.
2:36:19
Speaker 2: All right, let's do that. I'll do that.
2:36:22
Speaker 3: That's that's a more successful Errand here, by the way,
2:36:26
Speaker 3: Jace did respond he is of that family.
2:36:29
Speaker 2: And shout out to shout out to the bab because
2:36:32
Speaker 2: all right, uh fifty nine twenty seven grievance number two.
2:36:35
Speaker 3: I also echo your first grievance. I'm not going to
2:36:38
Speaker 3: get into it.
2:36:39
Speaker 2: Grievin's number two places offering one topping pizzas for nine
2:36:43
Speaker 2: to ninety nine. Offer pizzas with lots of toppings. Okay,
2:36:47
Speaker 2: it's not it's not like we with all of that.
2:36:53
Speaker 2: You can get pizzas with lots of topics. They're not
2:36:55
Speaker 2: going to stop you from getting pizzas with the cost.
2:36:59
Speaker 2: It's going to be more than That's it off. Offer
2:37:04
Speaker 2: pizzas with lots of topics. All right, great job bearing
2:37:08
Speaker 2: your grievances.
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Speaker 2: whatever's in the garbage can right now. That's probably not
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Speaker 2: gonna be good for me later today.
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Speaker 3: Uh give me the last time the last year that
2:38:30
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills won an AFC championship eight seven seven
2:38:36
Speaker 3: three five three zero seven hundred. I know we're not
2:38:38
Speaker 3: to that point in the playoffs yet, but there's a
2:38:41
Speaker 3: lot of believers out there in the Buffalo Bills. People
2:38:43
Speaker 3: are a grievances against me for not believing. When's the
2:38:46
Speaker 3: last time they won an AFC championship game eight seven
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Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred.
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Speaker 2: Spence check its How are you?
2:38:52
Speaker 5: I'm well, Sean, I'm well. How are you?
2:38:55
Speaker 2: Great? Good?
2:38:56
Speaker 5: Good? Great to see you, great to see you today.
2:38:58
Speaker 6: You have like the because some sometimes you have the
2:39:01
Speaker 6: freshly quaffed haircut because you have TV on the horizon.
2:39:05
Speaker 5: Were you wearing a beanie prior to jumping in the studio.
2:39:09
Speaker 6: I was wearing a hat hat, just like a regular
2:39:12
Speaker 6: ball cast. So so just like instant reaction. If I
2:39:16
Speaker 6: saw you today, is that guy's wearing a beanie?
2:39:19
Speaker 2: No, it would be that.
2:39:19
Speaker 6: Guy has three daughters, that guy is racing three young
2:39:24
Speaker 6: daughters and he's doing his best.
2:39:26
Speaker 5: Somebody give that guy a hawk.
2:39:28
Speaker 2: Thank you for telling me that I look terrible. No, no,
2:39:31
Speaker 2: not terrible, just like it's what it's what a friend
2:39:34
Speaker 2: does when you look bad. Your friend's like, hey, man,
2:39:36
Speaker 2: lock it up. You just like you, just like you.
2:39:39
Speaker 2: You just look like you're going through it a little bit.
2:39:41
Speaker 2: But maybe you are. It might be. It might just
2:39:44
Speaker 2: because of how many times I've taken the headphones on and.
2:39:46
Speaker 5: Off to Yeah, that's probably it.
2:39:47
Speaker 6: That's why I wear a hat when I do the
2:39:48
Speaker 6: show because it'll it'll get get in the way of
2:39:51
Speaker 6: the hair.
2:39:51
Speaker 2: But uh, let's take care. Lincolns on my television. I
2:39:53
Speaker 2: want to know why you.
2:39:55
Speaker 5: Ever hear about his arrangement with his wife.
2:39:59
Speaker 2: Speak the hair. I respect the fact that he's stuck
2:40:01
Speaker 2: with that haircut for the last thirty years.
2:40:03
Speaker 5: Why why is Andre Kerlinko on NBA TA. I don't know.
2:40:08
Speaker 2: It's like it's we're muted in here. I can't tell
2:40:10
Speaker 2: you what he's what he's talking about. Yeah, I've I
2:40:13
Speaker 2: have no idea.
2:40:18
Speaker 6: So Kerlinko was wishing the NBA Today producer a happy birthday.
2:40:30
Speaker 6: Oh wow, what a random NBA player to Colleen to
2:40:35
Speaker 6: wish you a happy birthday? Do you respect to Ak
2:40:37
Speaker 6: who was great? I had a great career. Love that.
2:40:40
Speaker 6: That caught me off guard.
2:40:41
Speaker 2: Here's a weird grievance. What do we got thirty sixty
2:40:44
Speaker 2: one two for the price of one shoes? I only
2:40:46
Speaker 2: want one pair? So how about half off? What what?
2:40:50
Speaker 2: You're a grievance against a great sale? Yeah that sounds
2:40:53
Speaker 2: like we go. It sounds like a good deal. Buy one,
2:40:55
Speaker 2: get one, alright. Any grievances.
2:40:57
Speaker 6: My favorite Friday grievances are the ones that come about
2:41:00
Speaker 6: me unsolicited.
2:41:01
Speaker 5: Do we have anything?
2:41:01
Speaker 2: Oh? None today?
2:41:02
Speaker 5: That's too bad.
2:41:03
Speaker 2: Oh you haven't upset people this week? I feel like
2:41:05
Speaker 2: I have your fastball. I feel like I upset people
2:41:09
Speaker 2: every single day. If you haven't bothered the listeners, so
2:41:11
Speaker 2: they have to tell me about it. Yeah, you're really
2:41:14
Speaker 2: losing your touch. Yeah I will. You know what, today,
2:41:16
Speaker 2: I pledge to upset our listeners. I will do what
2:41:19
Speaker 2: I can to make people. It's not a goal, it's
2:41:22
Speaker 2: just kind of part of my personality. I guess I'm
2:41:24
Speaker 2: working on it. Set I'm doing deep inner work. You
2:41:27
Speaker 2: don't understand I'm doing. I'm looking at all that stuff.
2:41:30
Speaker 2: I'm looking in the mirror.
2:41:31
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm doing the deep inner work to figure out
2:41:33
Speaker 6: how I can be better and leave space for others
2:41:37
Speaker 6: to be themselves and express themselves fully and then call
2:41:41
Speaker 6: my central nervous system so I can be regulated.
2:41:43
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I tuned you out as soon as you started.
2:41:45
Speaker 5: I tuned myself outstart.
2:41:47
Speaker 2: Talking with that self help drivel. I was just like
2:41:50
Speaker 2: done for. But that's the way people talk now, normals,
2:41:54
Speaker 2: not regular people. Now, those people.
2:41:55
Speaker 5: It's people that see a therapist.
2:41:58
Speaker 6: And I'm using air quotes on instagramm or TikTok to
2:42:01
Speaker 6: tell you how you should live your life, or you know,
2:42:03
Speaker 6: everyone's reading the same self help books. So I'm trying
2:42:05
Speaker 6: to lean in to progressing it as a person and
2:42:09
Speaker 6: finding my authentic self.
2:42:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right. I think that you might not
2:42:14
Speaker 2: find grievance with catchphrase language. Yes, oh yes, you might
2:42:18
Speaker 2: not find a person on the planet who hates catchphrase
2:42:23
Speaker 2: like language. Catchphrase, I'm making a point using a term
2:42:27
Speaker 2: that I don't even really know what it means. Yeah,
2:42:29
Speaker 2: I think I hate that more than every other living person.
2:42:32
Speaker 2: I'm not far behind you, Oh, Matt, I am like
2:42:35
Speaker 2: if you even if you have a great point and
2:42:38
Speaker 2: you're trying to tell me something heartfelt and important, if
2:42:41
Speaker 2: you use something like that, like like being true to
2:42:45
Speaker 2: myself or whatever, I'm just like, oh, I hate you now.
2:42:49
Speaker 6: Yes, no, I'm not far behind you. And all of it,
2:42:52
Speaker 6: all of it really is a smoke screen and a
2:42:53
Speaker 6: cover up for bad behavior. Like I'm at capacity, I'm
2:42:56
Speaker 6: having experience. Now you're acting like a horrible person. You know,
2:42:59
Speaker 6: That's really all it is. Anyway, what anything new on
2:43:04
Speaker 6: social media circulating over the past twenty four hours that
2:43:08
Speaker 6: is notable.
2:43:08
Speaker 2: Or I'm sure you'll get into that on your show today.
2:43:11
Speaker 5: Where you at the Mammoth game last night.
2:43:12
Speaker 2: I was not, but I watched it at home.
2:43:14
Speaker 5: It's not a good win for them.
2:43:16
Speaker 3: It was awesome those final five ish minutes where I mean,
2:43:20
Speaker 3: you have one of the best teams in the league,
2:43:22
Speaker 3: kind of like rallying after a long road trip. They
2:43:26
Speaker 3: pull the goalie and they're just flooding your defensive zone
2:43:29
Speaker 3: with offense, offense, offense, and for guys like gun Third
2:43:33
Speaker 3: to have to just get gritty and dump that thing
2:43:35
Speaker 3: out over and over, icing call after icing call. Stenland
2:43:38
Speaker 3: winning a bunch of face offs. It was really really
2:43:41
Speaker 3: cool to see them fight it out for those last
2:43:43
Speaker 3: five minutes or so and get a win over one
2:43:45
Speaker 3: of the best teams in the league.
2:43:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dallas, I think it's third in the league and
2:43:48
Speaker 6: goals right something like that third or fourth hold them
2:43:50
Speaker 6: to a gole power play goal in the third quarter,
2:43:53
Speaker 6: and then every time I watch them, more often than not,
2:43:56
Speaker 6: I feel like they are being bullied. And last night
2:43:59
Speaker 6: after that was the exception. They actually out hit Dallas.
2:44:02
Speaker 6: The final face off was they won like forty three
2:44:05
Speaker 6: face offs to twenty one, so it was like an
2:44:07
Speaker 6: unmammoth type win. But I feel like, now this has
2:44:10
Speaker 6: been the longest home stand of the season they had
2:44:12
Speaker 6: to make Ky here. I feel like we kind of
2:44:13
Speaker 6: turned a little bit of a corner where the consistency
2:44:15
Speaker 6: is back, which is good.
2:44:16
Speaker 2: And to do it without Coolly in the lineup is
2:44:20
Speaker 2: a big deal.
2:44:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's one of your best players when you
2:44:23
Speaker 3: get him back healthy. It's only in addition, it's the
2:44:28
Speaker 3: poor man's version of the Florida Panthers killing it and
2:44:32
Speaker 3: then oh look we got Kachuk back. Now it's like, oh,
2:44:35
Speaker 3: an embarrassment of riches.
2:44:36
Speaker 2: If you can be playing like this without one of
2:44:39
Speaker 2: your best guys, especially one of your best scores, then
2:44:41
Speaker 2: it's only going to get better.
2:44:43
Speaker 6: Do you have any confidence in your San Francisco forty
2:44:45
Speaker 6: nine ers to win at Lumen Field in Seattle tomorrow night?
2:44:48
Speaker 4: Yeah?
2:44:49
Speaker 3: I do, because you know they're a team that is
2:44:52
Speaker 3: winning against the odds, and those odds are not changing
2:44:55
Speaker 3: just because it's Seattle. Right, They're like, Seattle's a good team,
2:44:58
Speaker 3: and you lost to them a couple of weeks ago.
2:45:00
Speaker 3: But now you've got Sam Donald with a bit of
2:45:02
Speaker 3: an oblique issue. Him being less than one hundred percent
2:45:06
Speaker 3: could potentially help you. I think that, you know, the
2:45:09
Speaker 3: Niners believe that they can do that. And at the
2:45:13
Speaker 3: end of the day, if you're if you're down somebody
2:45:16
Speaker 3: like George Kittle and you're down Fred Warner and you're
2:45:20
Speaker 3: down Nick Bosa, you could have folded this thing up.
2:45:23
Speaker 3: Yeah in week seven, Yeah, but here they are.
2:45:26
Speaker 6: Well, the game a few weeks ago, I mean, Seattle
2:45:29
Speaker 6: left points on the board, right because they were zero
2:45:31
Speaker 6: of three in the red zone. That's some missfield goals.
2:45:34
Speaker 6: But Donald hasn't thrown for a touchdown against San fran
2:45:37
Speaker 6: this year. And that's fully healthy. And I know they're
2:45:39
Speaker 6: without kittles, but that Tongus kid is a good player,
2:45:43
Speaker 6: so I think the Donald injury actually evens the plane
2:45:45
Speaker 6: feel a little bit more. But I ask you because
2:45:48
Speaker 6: I am currently in the process of divorcing the New
2:45:51
Speaker 6: York Football Jets. Huh, and my rebound will be my
2:45:55
Speaker 6: childhood team, which was the San Francisco forty.
2:45:58
Speaker 2: I like that. Okay, he can be nine or friends together.
2:46:00
Speaker 5: Oh dude.
2:46:01
Speaker 6: I had a Steve Young jersey that I wore all
2:46:03
Speaker 6: the time. My favorite jacket back in the day was
2:46:06
Speaker 6: my gold Niners jacket and then.
2:46:08
Speaker 2: The gold Starter like bomber jacket.
2:46:10
Speaker 5: Did you have that?
2:46:11
Speaker 2: Yes?
2:46:12
Speaker 5: Did we just become best friends?
2:46:13
Speaker 2: Yep?
2:46:13
Speaker 5: Do you want to go do kung fu in the garage?
2:46:15
Speaker 5: I don't even remember what the lion?
2:46:16
Speaker 2: Yeah? There it is? Yeah?
2:46:18
Speaker 5: Yeah.
2:46:18
Speaker 6: And then I moved back East and unfortunately made the
2:46:21
Speaker 6: biggest sin of my life as far as my sports fandom,
2:46:24
Speaker 6: choosing the Jets and then sadly passing it on to
2:46:27
Speaker 6: my son, who, at the age of twenty four, is
2:46:29
Speaker 6: still upset with me. I've told him, I've told him,
2:46:33
Speaker 6: I'm like, go go fly away, Little bird, like, go
2:46:35
Speaker 6: find your own team, but he is. He is loyal
2:46:38
Speaker 6: to the Jets. Did you see the video surfacing this
2:46:41
Speaker 6: year of the kid who was interviewed outside of the stadum.
2:46:43
Speaker 6: He's like, I hate this team. Yes, that is my son,
2:46:45
Speaker 6: that is my child. He's like a twelve year old
2:46:48
Speaker 6: kid team. It was so sincere.
2:46:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, heartfelt, and it's like the core of him was
2:46:55
Speaker 2: in that moment feeling like why did someone make me
2:46:58
Speaker 2: into a Jets fan?
2:46:59
Speaker 6: I was born into this. I hate this team so great.
2:47:03
Speaker 6: I'm pulling hard for the Niners tomorrow. Let's hope they
2:47:05
Speaker 6: can get it.
2:47:05
Speaker 3: Time all right, go to Big Willies to watch that
2:47:08
Speaker 3: seventeen seventeen South Maine. They will have all of the
2:47:11
Speaker 3: games this weekend and on Monday night with the College
2:47:14
Speaker 3: Football National Championship. Stay tuned for the drive with Spence Chickens.
2:47:18
Speaker 3: It might get spicy, ladies and gentlemen. You heard it,
2:47:22
Speaker 3: he promised Spice.
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