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Welcome Coach Coen · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's twenty one degrees in Jacksonville's eight in Bolton six
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  Speaker 1: and killed there. This is TILL Talk, the official Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars UK and Ireland podcast, presented by Gallagher. I'm Jay Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: As far as I'm aware, still no relation. He's Key
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  Speaker 1: Ram sur And hello.
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  Speaker 2: Key, Hello Ja. Why do you say, as far as
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  Speaker 2: you know, what.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There might be some you know, it might be some
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  Speaker 1: sort of news you know that we are related.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. JP Shadwick is here, Hello JP.
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  Speaker 4: I am not related, but it's nice to be with
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  Speaker 4: the guests.
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  Speaker 3: That's definitely not related. The Jags have a new head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Duval Liam Cohen loaves to get through today. Unsurprisingly,
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  Speaker 1: this is probably the busiest episode we've ever had, actually,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to hear from the head coach's first
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  Speaker 1: press conference a bit later on in the podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: would update the rest of the news out of Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: and the Jags UK HQ two, but of course we'll
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  Speaker 1: start with Coach Cohen. All right, just bear with me,
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  Speaker 1: you two, okay, So we'll get to you in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like we just need to go through
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  Speaker 1: the last few weeks. This month in a nutshell, the
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  Speaker 1: jag was fired head coach Peterson kept on GM. Trent
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  Speaker 1: Boalki interviewed prospective head coaches. Liam Cohen was in the frame,
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  Speaker 1: looked like though he was going to be staying in Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: Jacks then fired ways with Boalkie. Cohen signs Tampa's upset.
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  Speaker 1: Jack's happy, Trevor Lawrence happy is He's got a young,
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  Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach. Jack's now looking for a new GM.
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  Speaker 1: Tony Basselli's going to be helping that. And as no
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  Speaker 1: till talk goes by without Brian Thomas Junior love he
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  Speaker 1: is in the probi as he should be all along.
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  Speaker 1: I think we can agree with that and nominated for
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  Speaker 1: a Rookie of the Year JP.
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  Speaker 3: Have I missed anything?
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  Speaker 4: I think you covered it all. I mean, that's a
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  Speaker 4: lot to get through there. It was a wild forty
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  Speaker 4: eight hours. I'll give you that, because you know, the
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  Speaker 4: news came down that Liam Cohen and backed out of
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  Speaker 4: or taking his name out of the running for the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars head coaching job and was going to take a
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  Speaker 4: lucrative number down in Tampa to stay as the offensive
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  Speaker 4: coordinator and it wasn't long after that that the word
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  Speaker 4: came on, okay, the Jags have parted ways with Trent Balkey.
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  Speaker 4: And then it wasn't long after that the tea leaves
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  Speaker 4: started coming together that this thing's still open and and
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  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen is still interested in coming at least talking
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  Speaker 4: to the Jaguars again. So that all happened within a day,
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  Speaker 4: and in the next day here he is as the
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  Speaker 4: head coach. And it's a quick turn. But you know what,
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  Speaker 4: you only get, You might only get one opportunity as
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  Speaker 4: a head coach, and to go through this process, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if things all of a sudden went sour
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  Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay, for example, in the next year or
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  Speaker 4: two offensively and for whatever in or out of his control,
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  Speaker 4: like the he might not be in the mix a
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  Speaker 4: lot of places again. So this was the time to
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  Speaker 4: strike while the iron was hot, at least for Liam Cohen.
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  Speaker 4: And from the outside looking in, we'll hear from him
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  Speaker 4: a little bit later. Of course, you have to go
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  Speaker 4: do it. It's a head coaching gig in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: It's in the same state you're in. It's got a quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: They've got some players on this roster there are some holes.
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  Speaker 4: So for Liam Cohen, a thirty nine year old guy
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  Speaker 4: up and coming in the league, it's a good place
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  Speaker 4: to really set down some roots.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't a Tampa Bay Buccaneers podcast, so
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  Speaker 1: we don't need to worry about how they're feeling about anything,
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  Speaker 1: but from a JAG's perspective, from a Jags fans perspective,
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  Speaker 1: JP as well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm coming out of it feeling quite.
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  Speaker 1: Pleased because it feels like this is and in fact,
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  Speaker 1: Shad Khan said a few weeks ago that he was
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that he was most disappointed with
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  Speaker 1: is how predictable the Jags were, And I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: just feels like he's gone out to and got somebody
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  Speaker 1: that is looks tailor made to be able to change that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what helps predictability, though an unpredictability is a
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  Speaker 4: running game, and that's the Jaguars didn't have. So you
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  Speaker 4: can be a whole lot more unpredictable when you have
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  Speaker 4: balance and they don't know what you're gonna do. So
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  Speaker 4: there's some of that that goes with it too. And
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  Speaker 4: just the way, yes that the Tampa Bay offense improved
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  Speaker 4: year over year he came in last year and it
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  Speaker 4: was a group that was like twenty third in the
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  Speaker 4: league and yardage per game in twenty twenty three and
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  Speaker 4: didn't score the ball a lot, like twentieth in the league. Well,
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  Speaker 4: this year they finished top five in both rushing and passing,
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  Speaker 4: the only team in the league to do that. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, it was his first year actually calling plays
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  Speaker 4: full time in the NFL when he was the OC
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  Speaker 4: at LA with the Rams, Sean mcvays calling the plays.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of just crafting it up. So that's that's
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  Speaker 4: that's huge for the way he can turn some things around.
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  Speaker 4: Curious to see what he does with the personality has
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  Speaker 4: and what his mindset is moving forward for you know,
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  Speaker 4: the needs moving ahead is we talked a lot about
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  Speaker 4: you know, up the middle on defense, on the offensive line,
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  Speaker 4: big people, all these things. Does he have that same mindset.
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  Speaker 4: I think that'll be a big thing to hear in
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  Speaker 4: the press conference, you know. But he's a guy that
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  Speaker 4: came up through that tree. That's the hot tree right now,
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  Speaker 4: the McVeagh tree. There are now four head coaches in
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  Speaker 4: the league that worked under Sean mcvaigh, So it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of how it goes. Sometimes you get a hot head
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  Speaker 4: coach in McVeigh who's won a Super Bowl and everybody
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  Speaker 4: wants a piece of that, right, and the Jaguars have
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  Speaker 4: a piece of that now, and let's see if he
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  Speaker 4: can kind of create his own tree. That's the next
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  Speaker 4: step moving ahead for Liam.
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  Speaker 2: Kahn JP TLS. What's it fifth season gonna be next season?
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  Speaker 2: Seeing what Liam Cohen did with Baker Mayfield last season,
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  Speaker 2: do you feel like this is a good fit and
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  Speaker 2: potentially some course correction is going to happen next season.
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  Speaker 4: That had to be a big piece of the interview process, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if not the first question, but I'd say
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  Speaker 4: the top three questions.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not in the process clearly, but if you're paying
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback fifty million dollars a year, that's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: high on the priority list of what do you think
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  Speaker 4: about him? How do you get him better? And I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure he had all the right answers, it sounds like,
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  Speaker 4: so we'll see. I mean, you've got to get in
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  Speaker 4: the room and work together. You know, you can hear
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  Speaker 4: about each other and watch Bucks games all you want,
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  Speaker 4: but it's a personality thing too, because you're in the
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  Speaker 4: room with this guy for twelve hours, and you got
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  Speaker 4: to figure out an offense that works best around Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's probably what he'll do. It's not going
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  Speaker 4: to be just a plug and play offense. Okay, what
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  Speaker 4: is Trevor like? What does he do well? And a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people will say this, but it's really hard
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  Speaker 4: to execute that and build the offense around what Trevor
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  Speaker 4: is comfortable with and does best and then get him
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  Speaker 4: better in those places where he's lacked a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: So I think Liam's got the ability to go do that.
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  Speaker 4: We'll go see if he can go do it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just go through that foty eight hours and JP,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, a lot happened in that forty eight hours,
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  Speaker 1: probably one of the more dramatic things in any head
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  Speaker 1: coach seuch that you can think of for any team recently.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, take us through that, and
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  Speaker 1: take us, you know through what you know Shad Khan
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  Speaker 1: would have been thinking at that moment.
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  Speaker 4: I might have been thinking, like, wait a minute, why
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  Speaker 4: is another guy backing out? Like I bet that's what
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  Speaker 4: he was thinking, right. Johnson goes to the Bears and
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  Speaker 4: then was he you know what he have come here?
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  Speaker 4: Who knows, right, I don't know all the things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter anymore, right, But Cohen interviewed and then
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  Speaker 4: took his name out, So okay, that's not trending the
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  Speaker 4: right way. He just don't know behind closed doors how
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  Speaker 4: those interactions truly went, and you might not ever really
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  Speaker 4: find out, you know, but it was clear that another
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  Speaker 4: change was needed, and Shad Khan left that door open,
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  Speaker 4: by the way in that press conference right after the
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  Speaker 4: season that hey, if some some coach comes in here
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  Speaker 4: with a different plan or an idea, I'm all here. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing. He didn't say that, that's my line, but
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  Speaker 4: and then he stood up to it, so I got
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  Speaker 4: I don't who knows if Li and Cohne even presented that, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: I got a guy and we got a thing. You know,
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  Speaker 4: here's the system we should do. However, it changed pretty
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  Speaker 4: quickly after that, so you can put those in whatever
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  Speaker 4: order you want, but it feels like that's the order
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  Speaker 4: of operations, and bang, all of a sudden, Cohens listening again,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm guessing the number probably went up to this
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  Speaker 4: is professional football. It is about the money and I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna guess mister Kahan decided, Hey, you know what, let's
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  Speaker 4: let's let's phoney up a little bit here and go
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  Speaker 4: get our guy.
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  Speaker 1: He actually released his statement. Let me read a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a statement from Jackson and and Shad Khan. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just read the first line to repeat my message
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  Speaker 1: earlier this week. I'm deeply committed to building a winner
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  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 3: This is a positive step.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I was following the head Coach Tracker and two names
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  Speaker 2: that were coming up a lot that made me really excited.
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  Speaker 2: One was Ben Jonson, one was Liam Cohen. And Ben
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  Speaker 2: Johnson didn't work out, that's all right, Let's see how
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  Speaker 2: he gets on at the Bear. So that would be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen, I think that is exciting. I loved what
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  Speaker 2: he did with Baker Mayfield and the Bucks, and I
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  Speaker 2: think bringing that energy, that experience to Jacksonville, I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be fun to talk about positive things over
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  Speaker 2: the next podcasts rather than what we've been talking about
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  Speaker 2: the rest of last season. So yeah, dude, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: One thing about the head coach Tracker though, JP. Two
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  Speaker 2: questions for you your interview for head Coach didn't come
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  Speaker 2: up on head coach tracker and why did you turn
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  Speaker 2: the position down this time?
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  Speaker 4: Sources say that I was not even close to the mix,
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  Speaker 4: so that.
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  Speaker 1: Goes to beardy. They said to Beardy, right, and that's
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  Speaker 1: why you got rid of it. Like next time, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to just.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have once betten twice shy.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know the whole list of guys that
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  Speaker 4: you saw come in and talk the first wave, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like half offense and half defensive mindset, and of course
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  Speaker 4: on the defensive guys, you're like, okay, who's your offensive
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  Speaker 4: coordinator going to? Because we just talked about the first
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  Speaker 4: question is the quarterback? So yeah, I'm sure they had
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  Speaker 4: to go through some of that. And let's now they've
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  Speaker 4: got the offensive guy in and let's let's see what
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  Speaker 4: his answer is of who's gonna call plays. I'm guessing
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  Speaker 4: that he probably wants to call plays. But he's also
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  Speaker 4: never managed a team on the field, So for a
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  Speaker 4: first time head coach, you're gonna have a lot of
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  Speaker 4: new things that surprise you and are like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 4: this is a whole lot more than I bargained for
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  Speaker 4: in terms of time away from football, away from the
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  Speaker 4: x's and o's, doing media obligations, meetings with players. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: all these things you really haven't had to do before
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  Speaker 4: as a coordinator or a play caller. Now all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, you're managing the whole operation. So there'll be
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  Speaker 4: probably a little bit of a learning curve with that.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm sure he's been told what do you expect
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  Speaker 4: from some folks who have kind of helped them all?
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  Speaker 2: Are you're a fan?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 2: You put in our WhatsApp group that you like this?
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  Speaker 8: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you know, back to what I said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: Shad Khant said that the offense, you know, the team
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  Speaker 1: was predictable and he wanted to change that up. And
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we are now several years,
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  Speaker 1: as you brought up earlier into Trevor Lawrence's career, and
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  Speaker 1: we can all sit here and say that he is
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  Speaker 1: a talented player, and we agree that he's a talented player,
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  Speaker 1: but we can all sit here and also say that
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  Speaker 1: we feel like he hasn't shown his full potential on
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  Speaker 1: the field. So what do you do in that situation?
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've spoken about this at length. You need
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that the situation is as perfect as
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  Speaker 1: it could possibly be to get the talent out from
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. And if that means getting somebody like Liam Cohenen,
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  Speaker 1: then I think that's a that's a great thing. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing I would say at JP, and you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier on, is that he's had
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  Speaker 1: a year calling plays. He's spent two stints in Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he was in with the with the Rams
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  Speaker 1: as well. Are we going all in on a on
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  Speaker 1: a small amount of type A great?
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  Speaker 4: It's a great question, right. I mean, there's not a
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  Speaker 4: lot of Uh, there's not a lot that's to you know,
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  Speaker 4: all these young guys are hot and upcoming coaches. Well,
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  Speaker 4: there's a reason they don't have a lot of film
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  Speaker 4: out there now. He's had a lot of time in
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  Speaker 4: LA under mcvagh. I mean, he was the assistant wide
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  Speaker 4: receivers coach in eighteen and nineteen and they had some
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  Speaker 4: really good receivers those years that he was helping coach.
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  Speaker 4: And then in twenty was the assistant quarterback coach. Got
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  Speaker 4: a little more involved that year, went to Kentucky. As
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned in twenty one, as the OC and the
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  Speaker 4: quarterback coach. I'm sure he was calling plays there and
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  Speaker 4: then back with the Rams where you you know, you're
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  Speaker 4: in the room with McVeagh every day as the offensive
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  Speaker 4: coordinator in twenty two and it's a tough year because
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  Speaker 4: you know, the quarterback got hurt and that was his
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  Speaker 4: first run with Baker. Oh, Baker Mayfield's here, okay, cool,
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  Speaker 4: and then they got connected then with back Kentucky. It's
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  Speaker 4: just how it goes sometimes, like you don't know that
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  Speaker 4: there's no direct line on these careers in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: and well, there's gonna be one for a little while now.
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  Speaker 4: If all things go well, he's sticking around here for
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  Speaker 4: a number of years and if you keep winning, you'll
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  Speaker 4: be here as long as you want to be here
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  Speaker 4: as the head coach.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned as well that there's there'll be a learning
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  Speaker 1: curve which is expected. You wonder whether he'll try and
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  Speaker 1: preempt that a little bit by getting some experienced coordinators in,
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  Speaker 1: some experienced coaches, people that have been there, have done
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  Speaker 1: it before. Have you heard anything about that. Can we
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  Speaker 1: expect some you know, experience.
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  Speaker 2: Sense to surround himself with experience, right?
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  Speaker 4: It would make it would make sense, you think. However,
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  Speaker 4: still I'm gonna guess from the outside looking in and
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  Speaker 4: still not talking to him in person as of this conversation,
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna be calling the plan and be the guy
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  Speaker 4: that's yeah for sure. Right, So okay, that's one thing.
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  Speaker 4: Now to your point about the defense, Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of the feel that Doug Peterson I think had,
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  Speaker 4: or the idea that Doug Peterson had, Hey, let's get
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  Speaker 4: an experienced coordinator on this side so I don't have
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  Speaker 4: to go over there as much. It didn't work out
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  Speaker 4: like that, but that was kind of the idea last season.
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  Speaker 4: So what does that mean moving ahead? I think that's
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  Speaker 4: probably a good call on the defensive side. He needs
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  Speaker 4: somebody who's done it before you can just kind of hey,
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  Speaker 4: go to your side of the building. We'll see you
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  Speaker 4: on Sunday basically, and see you on the practice field. Now,
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  Speaker 4: he's again like we're talking about the learning curve. It's
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  Speaker 4: in games. It's decision making, it's you know, two minute drives.
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  Speaker 4: When are we calling time out? When am I challenging?
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  Speaker 4: Who's telling me to challenge? Like all these things as
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  Speaker 4: a first time head coach, it's just a few it's
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  Speaker 4: a long list. You got to figure out the operation
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  Speaker 4: of that. So this is the time he's gonna get
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  Speaker 4: a staff in and they're gonna figure all those things out,
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  Speaker 4: and it might take a little bit of time time
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  Speaker 4: in game, and this preseason will be huge for that.
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  Speaker 4: In games that truly don't matter and the wins and losses,
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  Speaker 4: how do we operate? What's who's on the headset with me?
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  Speaker 4: What am I? What are we doing? Who's telling me
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  Speaker 4: to call time out? Who? You know what? What if
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  Speaker 4: we're on defense and I'm in an offensive meeting, like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: do I need to How do I balance my time
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  Speaker 4: on the sideline? So all that's in play. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's why this preseason, this offseason is so huge for
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  Speaker 4: a new head coach.
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  Speaker 1: I just think the whole thing is is exciting. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's exciting that he managed to take, as you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned a little bit earlier on the Bucks, from you know,
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  Speaker 1: a middling offense to one of the best in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield as well, who himself. You know, he's had issues,
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  Speaker 1: He's bounced around the league. Lest remember he's bounced around.
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  Speaker 1: He was with the Panthers, briefly was with the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: With the Bucks, he's been able to prove himself as
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  Speaker 1: a good starting option, and that's what we want to
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  Speaker 1: see with the Jags, don't we.
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  Speaker 4: It also helps that we have a Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 4: receiver out there throwing to too and Mike Evans, right,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, he got some He had some part about.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior a second. I was like, someone's going early.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not comparing them yet. However, you might dynamic playmaking
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: guy or two or three around you, and he had
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: some of that in Tampa, right, And Okay, when you
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: have that going with a play call and to go
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: with it, that's the combination.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: He's the guy that really, I mean, Trevor Lawrence hopefully
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: is going to be you know, pleased with the appointment,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: but Brian Thomas Junior is the guy that's going to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, this might work out quite well for me.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean no doubt about that, because I mean,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: think about this offense last year and what was going on,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: and he's still getting they didn't throw in the football
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: the first half of the season, Yeah, and he still
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: goes over it that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: The numbers considering that fact are super impressive.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: So when you have actual a functioning offense with that
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: guy healthy and playing well. Look out. I think there's
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: there's big, big things ahead for Brian Thomas.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: In fact, what talking about Brian Thomas Junior. No that
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: we you know, we speak about him quite a lot.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Let's be fair.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Whilst we're talking about him, he's had a bit of
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: recognition over the last couple of weeks as an e JP.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, got the nod as the first alternate
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: to go to the Pro Bowl in Orlando. The Pro
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Bowl games there's not an actual game anymore, it's flag
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: football and things. However, he was the first alternate. Say
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Flowers was injured so unable to play for Baltimore, so
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: you could argue he should have been one of the
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: top four anyway statistically, but it's tough for a rookie
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: to crack that, especially in Jacksonville. You know, Jay Flowers
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: and the Ravens are out there all the time, all
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: these things. So I wasn't as upset with that as
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of people might have been. That he was
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: out to begin with, but being the first alternate, there
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: was a pretty good idea he was going to get
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: in anyway. But good for him, it's a fantastic rookie season.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: And with that, he's a finalist for the AP NFL
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Offensive Rookie of the Year. I don't know if we'll
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: get it. Jaydon Daniels probably's gonna get in my opinion,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: is the hell of a year for the quarterback for Washington.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: But I mean you can't argue with the numbers that
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Brian put up. It's a great honor and I guess
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: he'll be at the NFL Honors when they award that,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: as my guess. So good for him to be in
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the spotlight and get at least some recognition for what
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: was a really tough year around Jacksonville. So good for him. Man,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: it's only it's only going to go up from here,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I hope for Brian Thomas Junior.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Well, one thing, right when when Shad Khan let Doug
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Peterson go in his statement, he was talking about looking
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: for a head coach that shared his huge ambition for
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars, and I have to say, when you hear
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen talk and when you see what he did
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: last year with the Bucks offense, I think that word
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: ambition comes to mind for me and I like this match.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, Liam Cohen. We've spoken a little bit about the
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: coaches as well. We haven't really spoken much about the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: GM the GM search.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Is there anything that you can tell us about that.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: There's really not much right now. I think they want
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: to get through from what I understand, they want to
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: get through the introduction of Cohen.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Do you think Liam Cohen has any input on this jpe.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I bet he'll have a little. He'll be in the conversation,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: as my guess. But I think they're gonna take their
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: time too on this. I don't think this is a
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: two days and done. They still have to go through
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: rooty rule process with general managers as well, so there's
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: gonna be all that in play. But they're gonna get
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: the best candidates they can. They're gonna talk to them all,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: give them all a fair shot like they did this time,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: and they go from there. But I don't think they're
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: gonna rush to get a guy in here by Wednesday,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: you know, and run the general manager role. It's gonna
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: be a little bit of a process again, and they'll
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: make sure they have the right guy and the right
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: combination of people in the building to get that done.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: So nothing has of right now. I think they want
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: to keep this as clear as they can early in
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the week for Liam Cohen and lift him up as
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: the new head coach and he's the guy that's running
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: the show and get.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Have a staf want to wait too long ago? Will
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I JP?
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Because you know the draft is isn't too long away.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: It's coming up. Yeah, thanks for the reminder. It's Clock's ticket.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: We're less than a month away from the combine, right,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: So yeah, now the scouting staff's in place, The interim
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: GM is still here in Ethan Wall, like he's running
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: all those things like that. The only person that's gone
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: is Balky, right. Everybody else is still in place doing
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: their job. So in theory, whoever comes in as a
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: general manager, which Ethan Wall will probably be in that
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: mix as well because he's the interim, he'll probably get
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: a conversation. At least whoever gets that role, we'll have
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: a staff in place already and get through the draft.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: That's that's how different it is in the scouting and
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: the coaching clocks. In the cycles, right, most of the
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: scouts contracts are through the draft, and then there's a
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: whole huge change in scouts and personnel people after the
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: draft usually every year in the NFL, whereas coaches are
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: like right after the season, you know, so that you
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: want the staff in place, that the people who have
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: the institutional knowledge of what's going on in college football
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: and have already scouted players for multiple years and have
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a database and all these things going on. You need that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: You can't just black everybody at one time because that
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: you might have the data in front of you, but
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: you don't know what it means, right, So so we'll
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: see what happens. But that's that's kind of the cycle.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: In the NFL with the scouts, you have a staff
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: in place. Work is still going on, Scouting is still happening.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: They're going to go to Pro Days with or without
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: a GM, and at some point they'll have a GM
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: to run the show.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: JAP, thank you for thank you for joining us. I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: just want to end on this line from from Liam
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: cong will hear from him shortly. As head coach of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, I will hire first class coaching staff,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: establish a distinctive and effective brand of football on both
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: sides of the ball.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: That's what gets me the most exciting. I think that's
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: what gets.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Distinctive that's that's that's big an identity, not have an
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: identity last year. That's exactly what that means. So whatever
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: that identity is, just have one and stick to it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: JP wonderful as always, Thank you so much for joining us.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: All right, guys, Thanks Keith, Thanks Jay, appreciate you guys.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're here from New Jacks head coach Liam Cohen.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Shortly but over the last few weeks since the last episode.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Actually key, no surprises. The Jacksonville Jankus have been announced
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to play in London in the twenty twenty five season.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: In fact that there are another couple teams as well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns the New York Jets. Will find out
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the opponents in the next few months. But if you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: are already thinking about it, first of all, don't blame you.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: It's already on my mind. To be honest.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: We actually have an exclusive Jacksonville Jankus London hospitality package
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: as well, to mention to you. You can enjoy a
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: champagne reception, street food style buffet stations, make another noise,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: oh okay, too far, and unlimited that's what you're going
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to get. And unlimited beer, wine and soft drinks. For
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: three hours pregame and during halftime.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: So are you going to enjoy the game if you're
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: drinking unlimited beers and wines for the three hours before?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you can. I'm sure that's the challenge. Reserve
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: for four or more guests.
• 23:17
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• 23:20
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• 23:24
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• 23:30
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• 23:34
  Speaker 1: game day that seat unique dot com. Key, it's not
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It's not bad, is it to already be thinking about
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the Jags coming back to London?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: No, and now that you're mentioning that package, that sounds
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: pretty pretty good as well. No, dude, I mean as
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: soon as as soon as we leave Wembley, I'm thinking
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: about thinking about Wembley.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's say from coach then showe.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: He sat down with Florida and NFL media for his
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: first press conference as JAG's head coach.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: This is what you have to say.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: As I said last week, this is a moment of
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: a lifetime. I want to thank people along this way
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: in terms of the process to get here, Tony Kahan,
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: Tony Bisselli, Mark Lamping, and Ethan Waugh. I genuinely thank
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: you for your honesty and trust throughout this process. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: owe a great debt of thanks to a lot of
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: the coaches that I've gone through the process with and
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: given me opportunities to.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: Coach, because that's what I love to do.
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: Todd Bowles in the Tampa organization, Sean McVay and the Rams,
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: Mark Stoops at Kentucky, Mark Whipple at UMass, my alma mater,
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: Phil Estis at Brown, and Don Brown, who is my
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: coach as a player in a towards me in this profession.
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: They were all great football minds, but one thing they
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: had in common was leadership. And that's what this is
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: all about. It takes complementary football at all three phases
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: to be great offense, defense, and special teams. How do
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: we want to play the game? And that's fast, fundamentally sound, attacking,
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: situational masters, and tough both mentally and physically. You see
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: players in the room right here, guys that I've had
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: conversations with already.
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: It will always be about you. Always. It is players
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: over plays.
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: How do we make this as much about the players
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: and making this about bringing.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: Out the best in you. That's what this is about.
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: Jacksonville, the community, du All, this has to be collaborative.
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: I want it to be as collaborative as possible for
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: us to go to the next level.
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: I cannot thank you guys for this moment, sad.
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: You just made a dream absolutely come true and we're
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: gonna work our tails off to bring championships to Jacksonville.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: Thank you so much, and we're ready to get to work.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Who's got the first question today?
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: Gene, congratulations, welcome to Jacksonville. Before I get to forward,
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: thinking about your opportunity here, could you just briefly go
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: over last week a lot of reports that you were
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: going to stay in Tampa for a substantial pay raise,
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: then you changed your mind decided to interview here. Could
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: you talk a little bit about what made you change
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: your mind and was there any in any way any
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: misgivings in your mind about changing your mind, not about
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: pursuing a head coaching opportunity.
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: The opportunity to coach in Tampa was a phenomenal one
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: to get my feet wet in the NFL as the
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: offensive coordinator, and I thank them so much for that opportunity.
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: As you continue to do more research and gaining more
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: information as you go, it started to become more clear
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: with every hour that this was an opportunity that you
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: just can't pass up for so many different reasons, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: you ultimately want to do truly what's best for you
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: and your family, and that's what this came down to.
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: I will always love and remember those guys in Tampa,
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: my players, those guys, love them to death. But this
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: is an opportunity to also go and do it with
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: some new guys, right, and to go reach and touch people,
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: because that's what coaching and teaching is, and that's what
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: this opportunity is all about.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: And extremely thankful for that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: But head forward, head and eyes up, and we're moving forward.
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: Just to be clear, was that did this have anything
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: to do with the change in the front office structure.
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: This was completely about an opportunity to work for an
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: owner and a group of people with a group of
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: players that needed some help. And that's what coaching is, right,
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: That's what coaching is all about, is trying to go
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: help people and be around people.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: So no, that was not the factor.
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: Okay, beyond the opportunity to develop a quarterback like Trevor.
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: What is it most that excites you about this opportunity?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: You see this place, Look at this right now, right,
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: look at this the community, what we're doing in the future,
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: the opportunity to be a part of something different.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Right, Let's be honest. This is different. That's awesome.
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: That's exciting for me and for my family to truly
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: be a part of something different, to go impact and
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: influence football players and people and staff.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: That's what this is all about.
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: It's about trying to be a part of change and
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: improvement and go try to go do something different and win. Right,
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: Winning cures a lot. Winning cures a lot, and that's
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: the goal.
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: Well, I am welcome to Duval Rick Blue with not
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: a two point five FM and ten ten XL. Been
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: a lot of speculation, but we haven't heard it from you.
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: You will be calling offensive plays.
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: Yes, Rick, absolutely, we'll be calling football plays.
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: How important is it for stability?
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: You know? Stability?
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: Now with Trevor, this will be the fourth different play
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: caller as he gets ready for his fifth year. With
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: just a perfect scenario for you, as far as you
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: know what you've seen so far in his four years
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: and where you believe.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: You can take him.
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: I was telling Trevor this the other day that I've
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: watched him play, you know, live as a freshman in
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: high school.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: It was Beauford High.
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: School against Carol Wood Cartersville. Excuse me, sorry, I was
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: in the South, Joe. I was in Georgia.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: Man, that's all I knew. And I was seeing this freshman.
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: In high school play the position at a high level,
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: standing tall, making throws, delivering, and I walked out of
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: there like, man.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: This guy's this is different.
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: I had no idea who he was.
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: And then you fast forward to now, Right, how do
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: we make Trevor Lawrence in this offense as dynamic and
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: explosive as we can be? Right, We've got to build
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: it around him as well. Right, We've got to make
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: every part of this about improvement, and he will be
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: a part of that process.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: He's earned that, right.
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: I cannot respect his toughness and mentality and work ethic
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: more than I do already from afar and this will
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: all be about Trevor right now.
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: Dimitrius Harvey with the Florida Times Union of Liam just
• 30:51
  Speaker 12: you were able to be here in Jacksonville during training
• 30:54
  Speaker 12: camp during joint practices.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: I'm curious what you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: Were able to learn about maybe the team a little bit,
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: and then obviously the facilit and all that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: Great question to me, tris that was a huge opportunity
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: for me to see this. I walked through these halls
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: and oh my, this place is awesome.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: And you start to see it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: And then during the course of practice those few days, you're.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: Obviously competing against the defense on.
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: One side of the field, and I kept hearing oohs
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: and ahs on the other side, and you start to
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: you go back and wash the tape and you see
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: them throwing the football and VTJ going down the field
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: and these guys making plays, and that was cool to see.
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: I got an opportunity to talk to Josh heinz Allen
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: that day. I got an opportunity to talk to Luke
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: Fortner that day. Guys that I had had a you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: relationship with, if you will, Those were all little parts
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: of this right where you got you have an opportunity
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: to look back and say, man, that thing's got a shot, right,
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: and that that gets you excited. And I think that
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: that was the beginning, as you mentioned, of really looking
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: at this as the opportunity that it became.
• 31:57
  Speaker 12: I'm curious too, you sort of touched on, but just
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: from what you've seen from Afar about Trevor and the
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: rest of the team, what do you sort of make
• 32:05
  Speaker 12: of it? You know, heading into this sort of new chapter.
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: I've mentioned this to the guys, this isn't a four
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: win team. Yes, that is the the record, but this
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: is not a four win team.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: Okay, how do.
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: We go from winning games to not losing them? I
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: think that that's something we've got to address, and that
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: is got to be in our veins, in our DNA.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: The culture of winning.
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: I've learned it from the Los Angeles Rams and from
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: a ton of other great organizations on how to go
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: win football games, and so I think that that's something
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: that it has. We have to start as a team,
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: as a group and show how we're going to go
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: do it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Hi, Liam, nice to meet you, me O'Brian tentonxl A
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: lots of good How are you? A lot's been made
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: about going back and forth between college and the pros.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I know you've spoken about it before.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: How you feel play calling, getting those reps that was
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: what was paramount, That's why you moved back and forth.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: If you could just describe the last four or five
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: years going back and forth and perhaps how strategically, maybe
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: even this has set you up for this opportunity here today.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 9: The foundation of my career started in college and locker
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: rooms in Maine and Brown and UMass, places that, let's
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: be honest, don't have a ton of resources. So you
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: learn kind of your DNA as a coach in some
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: of those places, right, And then in the last few years,
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: you get an opportunity to go coach in the National
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: Football League, which has been the dream. Then you make
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: a decision that ultimately was a little dicey at the time,
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: I'll be honest. You go back to a place where
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: you just had success and had a great opportunity to
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: be at, but that was all done to go call
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: plays again, right, And that was the experience that I
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: kind of missed that year in LA. Knew why I
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: was going to take that job, but ultimately probably underestimated
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: some of the the leadership that goes with calling plays
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: and truly running.
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: The show on offense.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: Things have changed in the landscape of college football, right,
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: That's we all know that. And when you start to
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: have a young family. Things change, your priorities change, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: the National Football League does provide a little bit more
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: of an opportunity to be a father and a husband
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: and a friend. And that's kind of why we've done
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: the back and forth for the last few years. But
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: I'll be in the NFL hopefully for a while.
• 34:28
  Speaker 13: Dan Hickin tend to XL and CBS. Mister con Liam,
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  Speaker 13: Welcome to Jacksonville, Sean. I'll start with you as you
• 34:36
  Speaker 13: form this front office reports that you used Tony Boselli
• 34:40
  Speaker 13: helped you out, and the coaches starts with you in
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: the forefront. Is there a role for Tony going forward
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: in the front office or now.
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: Well, you know we are going to have a position
• 34:50
  Speaker 14: and you know, we're checking with the league what the
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: rules are, what we have to follow, and you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 14: and then we'll ticket from there.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Okay, Mike Rocker with ESPN, Liam, who has sort of
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: been the people that have really influenced you in the
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: way you call plays, the way you kind of design
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: your offense, and you know obviously work with Sean McVay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: So would you consider yourself part of the Sean McVay tree.
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  Speaker 9: Definitely, Yeah, I think It starts off with him, my
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: dad right here in terms of the mindset.
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  Speaker 7: He was a play caller.
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: He was an offense offensive you know, designer, you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: and he always instilled the players overplays mentality. And then
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: you go to Brown with Phil Estes to you mess
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: with Mark Whipple and then continue to go and then yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: I think getting to the rams in with Sean that
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: was where I learned.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: Truly the game.
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: I think in a lot of ways right got my
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: if you will, PhD in coaching and learned at a
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: different level to be around him, the Kevin O'Connell's, the
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: Zach Taylor's, those guys, the Matt Lafleurs. To be around
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: them to see how they operated. This is the way
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: I would like to do things. You're always going to
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: have your own twist on it, but I'm proud to
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: say I'm in the saw McVay tree.
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  Speaker 15: Brent Martineau from CBS forty seven, Fox thirty Action Sports Shock.
• 36:10
  Speaker 15: How much does what is a head factor into how
• 36:14
  Speaker 15: you viewed this because obviously you have this year, but
• 36:17
  Speaker 15: it's a limited capacity inside the stadium in twenty six,
• 36:20
  Speaker 15: no home games in twenty seven, new stadium in twenty eight.
• 36:24
  Speaker 15: Was that a part of the equation for you when
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: you're looking at this job.
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: I've actually looked at that as an exciting part of
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: this honestly. You know, my wife been in the military,
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: born in the Philippines, moved all over her childhood. I've
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: moved around a lot throughout this process and throughout.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: My career here, so we're kind of used to that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: Honestly, we embrace that and to try to bring home
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: wins to Jacksonville.
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: That is important to protect our home turf.
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: It's going to be a little bit different, it's going
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: to be a little complicated over the next few year years.
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: But if we don't embrace that, then we have no shot,
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: right if we can go start to build something that
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: people are really proud of over these next two years.
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: In year three, wherever we're playing, we want people to
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: come and then to go into this next one that
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: we're coming into. I mean, sky's the limits. So that's
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: something that we're excited about.
• 37:20
  Speaker 15: Is that a mentality, by the way, to embrace even
• 37:22
  Speaker 15: the London games and how much do you embrace the
• 37:25
  Speaker 15: idea where this team has played and at times played
• 37:28
  Speaker 15: well over there.
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: My wife's favorite city. You know, it's a great place.
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: It's something cool, unique, different that ultimately, like I mentioned before,
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: that you want to be a part of You want
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: to be a part of change. You want to be
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: a part of something unique, and that's what this opportunity
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: does present. It isn't the norm. Nothing about this has
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: been the norm. But that's really cool. That's really cool
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: to be a part of that, and we're excited about it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Liam once again, congratulations.
• 37:56
  Speaker 12: How do you assess the lines of scrimmage here and
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: where do you guys need to get better?
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: I think we would all you know, agree that it
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: needs to improve, right. I think that when you look
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: at first and foremost the offensive side of the ball,
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: you know you want that unit and that group, it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: the first thing when you break the huddle that the
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: defense sees. I want that to mean something. We want
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: that to mean something.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: And it will. And that's a mentality.
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: That's personnel, that scheme, that's technique, that's fundamentals, that's attitude.
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: That's something that we need to make sure we instill.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: And then on the defensive side of the ball, I
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: think we all know that we've got some talented dudes there.
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: We've got some guys that really go how do we
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: continue to ensure the inside? But we got three We've
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: got multiple guys up front that can do some good things.
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: We've got to put them in a position to be successful.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: That's our job. The guys are there.
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: We can continue to add in that room, right, add
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: multiple different positions as well.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: But that's where it starts.
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: As you mentioned, to go and playoff games and to
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: go do it, you've got to be able to run
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: the football and stop the run first and foremost.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I hate to finish the podcast on a sour note. Then, yeah,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a few weeks since our
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: last podcast. We did we did confirm, all right, we
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: did confirm that at the end of the last podcast
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that I did win the prediction standings, and therefore I
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: would be being sent something that belonged to you, a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: bit of Jags merchandise. Now, I could have gone with
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the rare bespoke Jags artwork that you've had made, but
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I actually quite like you, would quite like you to
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: still be a friend, So instead I chose the Trevor
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Lawrence bubblehead.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I've been checking the post.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I've been scrutinizing the guy that the postman who, by
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the way, coincidentally, where's a jags hat?
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Just saying yeah, saying it looks an awful lot like me, Yeah,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: there's nothing. I'm got anything me.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I am still waiting for this and I don't want
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: this to be a situation and I feel like this
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: could be where it comes. August thirty first, So just
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: before the start of the new season, at the.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: End of the last podcast, I sought some legal advice
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: that was a verbal agreement, which is not legally binding.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: And if you know, as my nun always used to say,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I blame the postal service, I haven't sent it, Jay,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I will send it this week. It takes me more
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: than a couple of weeks to say goodbye to Mini
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: trev forward slash Julia. We've had a long time together.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: It's a long, painful goodbye and one day, he she
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: they will be yours. Be patient?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I just imagine that you're just sleeping next to it
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: every single night to say goodbye.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I mean I was before.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I agree, all right, So what you're saying is is
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: by the end of February, by the next podcast.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: It will be in my possession. All right, Yeah, that
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: is a that is a legal binding agreement by the way.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, I tell you what I will send in the post.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I'll send a legal contract in the make it official.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I will not be sending it back. Key.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Look forward to speaking to you again in a few
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: weeks time. It's been a dramatic last few weeks. Actually,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the next few weeks has got
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to hold.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Hopefully, yeah, exactly.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see, won't We speak to
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: you in the next few weeks.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: We'll be back at the end of February.
• 41:38
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