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- 0:00Speaker 0: This episode is provided by Thomas Allgeier and Franis, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts on health tech in CW six-and-seven.
- 0:08Speaker 0: Franus equips product and strategy teams with market and competitive intelligence to navigate the HealthTech landscape.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Deep Dive!
- 0:16Speaker 1: We are looking at the Health Tech Landscape for Weeks Six & Seven of twenty-twenty-six
- 0:22Speaker 0: And I have say going through sources this time...the feeling was Different
- 0:26Speaker 1: different how
- 0:27Speaker 0: well.
- 0:28Speaker 0: usually there's a lot of you know science fiction Cool concepts that are maybe five ten years out right
- 0:34Speaker 1: the flying cars of health care
- 0:35Speaker 0: exactly, but this week It didn't feel like a science fair.
- 0:39Speaker 0: If felt more like a construction site
- 0:42Speaker 1: That's a perfect way to put it.
- 0:43Speaker 1: if there's one big takeaway is this The industry is moving from experimentation to scale the execution.
- 0:49Speaker 0: The sandbox phase is over?
- 0:50Speaker 1: It is!
- 0:51Speaker 1: We're not just seeing cool pilots, we are seeing regulatory-grade platforms actual reimbursement industrial maturity...the plumbing has been laid down
- 0:59Speaker 0: And that's what were here to unpack..we've grouped updates into well four big themes.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Were gonna talk about AI becoming agintic which was a term we definitely need to define.
- 1:08Speaker 0: Then will get in some uh literal superpowers and imaging diagnostics
- 1:13Speaker 1: New wave robotics.
- 1:14Speaker 1: then Big one The money question Digital therapeutics actually getting paid.
- 1:20Speaker 0: It's a packed agenda, so let's get right into it.
- 1:22Speaker 0: Let's
- 1:22Speaker 1: start with AI.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I mean we say AI is changing health care all the time.
- 1:26Speaker 1: That's almost a cliche
- 1:28Speaker 0: but opposed from Effie glow reporting from WA checks in Dubai She used to phrase that really stuck with me
- 1:35Speaker 1: was at.
- 1:35Speaker 0: she said AI is graduating from a chatbot to a co-worker.
- 1:39Speaker 1: And that is the critical shift, she was talking about agentic AI.
- 1:42Speaker 0: right and for anyone listening this is a real leap forward from the generative AI we've all gotten used.
- 1:48Speaker 1: so it's not just chat gpt for doctors.
- 1:50Speaker 1: no
- 1:50Speaker 0: i mean generative ai is passive.
- 1:52Speaker 0: you ask a question it gives you an answer?
- 1:54Speaker 0: It waits!
- 1:55Speaker 0: Agenic Ai has agency its designed to execute tasks
- 2:00Speaker 1: autonomously.
- 2:01Speaker 1: So does it summarize meeting notes
- 2:03Speaker 0: It schedules the follow-up, it updates the patient file.
- 2:06Speaker 0: It flags a prescription conflict all without you holding its
- 2:10Speaker 0: hand.".
- 2:11Speaker 1: And she gave that example from the UAE Ministry of Health.
- 2:14Speaker 1: they have projects where AI agents are handling what was it?
- 2:18Speaker 1: A third of the admin burden...
- 2:19Speaker 0: ...a third and think about what that really means.
- 2:21Speaker 0: this isn't a doctor checking the AI's work every few seconds.
- 2:25Speaker 1: No!
- 2:25Speaker 1: This is AI doing triage AI doing scheduling, its
- 2:29Speaker 0: infrastructure.
- 2:30Speaker 1: and Effie's point about geography was interesting too.
- 2:32Speaker 1: The health care lab for this.
- 2:35Speaker 1: It's not Silicon Valley anymore
- 2:37Speaker 0: No it's the GCC the Gulf region in China.
- 2:39Speaker 0: They're just operationalizing this tech so much faster
- 2:42Speaker 1: which is a huge wake-up call.
- 2:43Speaker 1: I mean if you're only building for Western regulatory speeds You might be building for yesterday
- 2:48Speaker 0: And speaking of the UAE Said Al Hasan shared an update on Amal the
- 2:52Speaker 1: first AI physician assistant.
- 2:54Speaker 0: right And the language they use is key.
- 2:57Speaker 0: It's to augment decision-making,
- 2:59Speaker 1: Augment not replace
- 3:01Speaker 0: exactly.
- 3:01Speaker 0: it reduces the cognitive load But yeah and there's always a but when you move this fast
- 3:06Speaker 1: There are new risks
- 3:07Speaker 0: and This Is where we need To look at what's happening in Italy?
- 3:10Speaker 0: Chiara Galiz had A really sharp analysis on this.
- 3:13Speaker 0: On
- 3:13Speaker 1: The MIA system right correct?
- 3:15Speaker 0: so Italy deployed this generative AI tool mia into fifteen hundred family doctors offices.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Wow That is national scale.
- 3:23Speaker 0: It is and it uses something called RAG, Retrieval Augmented Generation.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Okay break that down for us.
- 3:30Speaker 1: what does that mean here?
- 3:31Speaker 1: So
- 3:31Speaker 0: instead of the AI just you know making things up from the internet, ROGI forces to look at a specific trusted library first
- 3:38Speaker 1: Medical guidelines in this case Right!
- 3:40Speaker 0: It retrieves correct data then generates answer
- 3:44Speaker 1: Which sounds much safer
- 3:46Speaker 0: It is, in theory.
- 3:47Speaker 0: But Chiara points out this very human problem... automation bias!
- 3:51Speaker 1: We trust the machine too much…
- 3:53Speaker 0: We do!
- 3:54Speaker 0: These systems sound so confident—perfect grammar.
- 3:57Speaker 0: A busy doctor asks for a diagnostic frame The AI gives a coherent answer And
- 4:02Speaker 1: the Doctor just accepts it.
- 4:03Speaker 0: and the AI becomes shadow co-author of that medical decision.
- 4:06Speaker 1: That's the scary part.
- 4:08Speaker 1: If the AI misses a nuance Who's responsible?
- 4:11Speaker 1: The doctor signed off but the shadow co author wrote
- 4:14Speaker 0: Confidence is not competence.
- 4:17Speaker 0: And that's why Tim Ruchenbaum's update from Oracle was so relevant,
- 4:20Speaker 1: he was talking about their new AI data platform?
- 4:23Speaker 0: Yes and his point was at this.
- 4:25Speaker 0: agentic intelligence needs deep clean clinical data.
- 4:29Speaker 0: you can't just slap a smart bot on top of a messy system.
- 4:33Speaker 0: it's
- 4:33Speaker 1: an infrastructure play Not Just An App.
- 4:35Speaker 1: You Download
- 4:36Speaker 0: It The Plumbing Of The Hospital.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:38Speaker 1: So That'S the Back End.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Let's Shift To The Front End The Eyes Of The Operation imaging and diagnostics.
- 4:44Speaker 0: And looking at the posts from Ryan Fukushima, Dr Daniel Stromer it really does feel like we're getting superpowers!
- 4:50Speaker 1: Let's start with Ryan's insight on page.
- 4:52Speaker 1: predict he used an analogy that just...it clicks
- 4:55Speaker 0: A compressed file.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yes so think of a standard pathology slide The pink-and-purple tissue sample for cancer diagnosis.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Think if is as a compressed file.
- 5:02Speaker 0: For one hundred years pathologists have looked at this slide seeing cell shapes Morphology.
- 5:07Speaker 1: but the AI sees more.
- 5:09Speaker 0: So much more!
- 5:10Speaker 0: It looks at that same slide and see's molecular data, it decompresses the file.
- 5:14Speaker 1: He said AI can now predict a hundred twenty-three biomarkers across sixteen cancer types
- 5:20Speaker 0: From a single slide.
- 5:21Speaker 0: That
- 5:21Speaker 1: is just wild.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Usually you'd need what?
- 5:23Speaker 1: Expensive genetic sequencing for that
- 5:25Speaker 0: Exactly More tissue, more time A lot more money.
- 5:29Speaker 0: This means You could get that same date Adjust by running code on an image you already have.
- 5:33Speaker 1: It democratizes precision oncology.
- 5:36Speaker 0: But speed is also a superpower, especially in the ER.
- 5:39Speaker 0: And that brings us to The Photon Friday Case.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Cheered by Dr.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Daniel Strowmer This one really hits home.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Chest pain, racing heart, emergency room... The
- 5:48Speaker 0: triple rule out!
- 5:50Speaker 0: This has huge leap into CT tech Usually scanning hearts beating fast as well.
- 5:55Speaker 0: It's a nightmare.
- 5:56Speaker 1: The image gets blurry Right…the
- 5:58Speaker 0: scanner like camera.
- 6:00Speaker 0: If the heart is moving fast, the picture's useless.
- 6:02Speaker 1: But Dr.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Schromer was talking about the semen's naeotom alpha dot prime of photon counting CT Right
- 6:08Speaker 0: and without getting too deep into physics.
- 6:11Speaker 0: these detectors are incredibly fast.
- 6:12Speaker 0: They count individual photons so they can freeze motion
- 6:15Speaker 1: And results.
- 6:16Speaker 1: in this case
- 6:17Speaker 0: One scan one breath hold and diagnosed.
- 6:19Speaker 0: pulmonary embolism aortic dissection coronary artery disease
- 6:23Speaker 1: Three deadly conditions at once.
- 6:25Speaker 0: That difference between innovation and execution.
- 6:28Speaker 0: Execution We saved this person's life in five minutes and the ER.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Incredible, but the tech is only half of battle.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Andrei Hartung added another layer to it
- 6:37Speaker 0: The unified cockpit.
- 6:38Speaker 1: This about human factor.
- 6:40Speaker 1: we're drowning radiologists data.
- 6:42Speaker 0: Right.
- 6:43Speaker 0: if you give them better images with a harder workflow they burn out.
- 6:46Speaker 0: Andre was talking how AI needs reduce scan times put all that data into one clean view
- 6:52Speaker 1: Producing cognitive load
- 6:53Speaker 0: Just as important image resolution.
- 6:56Speaker 0: And Mark Stoffels from Phillips mentioned their acquisition of Spectrowave, which is about combining imaging and AI inside the veins.
- 7:04Speaker 1: So you can decide guide-and-treat all in one.
- 7:06Speaker 1: go closing The Loop?
- 7:08Speaker 0: Exactly!
- 7:09Speaker 0: Okay so speaking of closing A Loop let's talk about robotics when the code meets the physical
- 7:14Speaker 1: world.
- 7:15Speaker 1: We have to start with this story shared by Dr Martha Buchenfeld About a man named Tucker
- 7:20Speaker 0: Moore.
- 7:20Speaker 0: Such a powerful story.
- 7:21Speaker 0: it grounds All This Tech In Reality.
- 7:24Speaker 1: So Tucker's a marathon runner.
- 7:25Speaker 1: He has a freak accident, falls downstairs loses a hand-prit sized piece of his skull
- 7:30Speaker 0: and suddenly His life is on hold wearing a helmet everywhere.
- 7:34Speaker 1: And the standard solution?
- 7:35Speaker 1: A custom titanium implant costs what twenty thousand dollars or
- 7:39Speaker 0: more.
- 7:39Speaker 0: for a lot Of people that's just out of reach.
- 7:41Speaker 1: but dr.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Bokenfeld highlighted The shift to three d printing.
- 7:45Speaker 1: they used a peak implant.
- 7:47Speaker 0: peak Is a high performance polymer.
- 7:49Speaker 0: it's biocompatible.
- 7:51Speaker 0: its light.
- 7:52Speaker 0: This is the crucial part.
- 7:53Speaker 0: It can be three d printed very cheaply.
- 7:55Speaker 1: how cheaply
- 7:56Speaker 0: she said.
- 7:56Speaker 0: in some pilots They're doing it for as low as six hundred dollars
- 7:59Speaker 1: from twenty thousand to six hundred.
- 8:01Speaker 0: that Is democratization and The end of the story.
- 8:05Speaker 0: Tucker ran the nyc marathon just months later.
- 8:08Speaker 0: That's
- 8:08Speaker 1: what scaled execution looks like,
- 8:11Speaker 0: but the big players are moving here too.
- 8:13Speaker 0: we saw updates From Medtronic Raji Kamal on the Hugo system, Jeff Martha on Stealth XIS.
- 8:20Speaker 1: And the trend there seems to be ecosystem?
- 8:22Speaker 0: It is!
- 8:23Speaker 0: Medtronic isn't just selling a robot arm — they're unifying planning navigation and robotics into one workflow...
- 8:29Speaker 1: ...and real-time data's coming in that work flow now too….
- 8:32Speaker 1: Yes
- 8:33Speaker 0: Alice Warden from GE Health Cow posted about integrating their ultrasound directly into robotic surgery
- 8:39Speaker 1: Which is huge because the surgeon is at a console ten feet away.
- 8:42Speaker 1: They lose that sense of touch.
- 8:44Speaker 0: They're flying by vision alone, but adding ultrasound lets you see inside the organ before you cut.
- 8:49Speaker 0: it's like having x-ray vision during operation
- 8:52Speaker 1: and looking ahead.
- 8:53Speaker 1: bird van mirrors from Phillips mentioned this seismic consortium.
- 8:56Speaker 0: over twenty three million euros in EU funding.
- 8:59Speaker 0: This is focused on the brain on minimally invasive treatments.
- 9:03Speaker 0: It's the final frontier for this kind of tech.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Okay so we have smart agents with supervision We have robots But none if matters If no one pays.
- 9:11Speaker 0: which brings us to theme four, digital therapeutics and virtual care.
- 9:15Speaker 0: And we have a major reimbursement milestone.
- 9:19Speaker 1: Lucy Jones shared the news about OvevaDirect in Germany.
- 9:22Speaker 0: This is huge, it's Germany first reimbursed.
- 9:25Speaker 0: digital therapy a digae for both hypertension and weight management
- 9:29Speaker 1: Reimbursed that's the magic word
- 9:31Speaker 0: It is.
- 9:31Speaker 0: there are thousands of wellness apps but oveva showed the data an eleven millimeter hg drop in systolic blood pressure over four percent weight loss.
- 9:40Speaker 1: So because they have hard clinical data The German health system says okay we'll pay for this like a pill.
- 9:45Speaker 0: Exactly, but the regulation around this is tricky.
- 9:48Speaker 0: Asincon analyzed the FDA's twenty-twenty six guidance and it looks like they're opening a side door
- 9:54Speaker 1: for general wellness devices.
- 9:56Speaker 0: right your smartwatches your rings Devices that measure BP's PO to glucose.
- 10:01Speaker 1: So what does the shift?
- 10:02Speaker 0: The FDA saying if you stay in that wellness lane And you don't claim to diagnose or treat a disease You can bypass the strict five-ten K clearance.
- 10:12Speaker 1: So faster market access for manufacturers?
- 10:14Speaker 0: Much faster, but they have to be so careful with marketing if they cross the line into diagnosis there in big trouble and
- 10:20Speaker 1: when you combine that with gamification.
- 10:22Speaker 1: what Mengcha shared about loony health in Singapore is fascinating.
- 10:27Speaker 0: my favorite example of prevention as infrastructure a partnership between Apple and the Singaporean government
- 10:32Speaker 1: And this wasn't a small pilot
- 10:33Speaker 0: no.
- 10:37Speaker 0: and by gamifying, health-closing your rings or any points they saw sustained activity gains.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Gains that could actually reduce mortality risk
- 10:44Speaker 0: By three to thirteen percent.
- 10:45Speaker 0: it proves.
- 10:46Speaker 0: if you design the incentives right at a national scale You can change the health profile of country
- 10:51Speaker 1: And its not just general wellness.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Sina Esimiri reported on dental monitoring securing a hundred million dollars for
- 10:59Speaker 0: remote orthodontic care.
- 11:00Speaker 0: It just proves the model works.
- 11:01Speaker 0: You don't need to go to the dentist every two weeks if an AI can check your selfie video.
- 11:05Speaker 0: Okay,
- 11:05Speaker 1: so let's zoom out.
- 11:06Speaker 1: we have the tech We have the scanners we even have some reimbursement
- 11:10Speaker 0: but you have to play Dell's advocate.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I do.
- 11:13Speaker 1: If this stuff is so good Why isn't it everywhere?
- 11:16Speaker 1: why am i still faxing things to my doctor?
- 11:19Speaker 0: That's the multi-billion dollar question.
- 11:22Speaker 0: And it brings us to our final theme, strategy and the.
- 11:25Speaker 0: so what?
- 11:26Speaker 1: Vladislav Puzhankov had a brilliant take on this.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Demand fulfillment versus demand creation.
- 11:33Speaker 0: Every health tech founder needs to hear this.
- 11:35Speaker 0: he argues that innovation fails if you just try to fulfill demand like answering a hospital's RFP
- 11:40Speaker 1: because The Hospital Just asked for A faster horse slightly better version of What they already have.
- 11:45Speaker 0: precisely Puzonkov used intuitive surgical as an example.
- 11:49Speaker 0: They didn't sell a robot, they created the category of robotic surgery.
- 11:52Speaker 1: They had to build the demand from zero.
- 11:54Speaker 0: If they'd waited for a tender or surgical robot then you would be gone.
- 11:58Speaker 0: You have teach them why it needs your solution.
- 12:01Speaker 1: But even when that demand is there Adoption is still uneven.
- 12:05Speaker 1: That report Jan Beger shared on US hospitals was... A bit of reality check.
- 12:10Speaker 0: It was only forty.
- 12:12Speaker 0: nine percent use predictive AI Less than half.
- 12:16Speaker 1: And it's clustered in wealthy urban areas with cold spots, in rural areas.
- 12:20Speaker 0: So the places that need efficiency most are least likely to have it.
- 12:23Speaker 0: The infrastructure gap is real
- 12:25Speaker 1: Which brings us a final point from Simon Philip Ross at GE Healthcare.
- 12:30Speaker 1: He basically said... No!
- 12:34Speaker 0: The barrier is status quo.
- 12:36Speaker 0: It's our willingness to redesign how we partner and govern these systems.
- 12:40Speaker 1: We had to stop running Pylis
- 12:41Speaker 0: ...and start redesigning this system.
- 12:43Speaker 0: The tech is ready, the question is are we ready to change how we work?
- 12:46Speaker 0: To fit the technology.
- 12:48Speaker 1: That's a challenge isn't it?
- 12:49Speaker 1: moving from the wow phase...to the How Phase and the How Is Messy!
- 12:53Speaker 0: It is but as we saw with the three-D printed skull or the triple rule out scan when We get the HOW RIGHT THE IMPACT IS IT'S IMMEDIATE IT'S PROFOUND
- 13:02Speaker 1: absolutely.
- 13:03Speaker 1: the hard Work of Execution is just beginning.
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