Latest / Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast / Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Episode 1 Recap with Jaime Moyer & Emily Dorezas
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Drama, Darling.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Drama, Darling.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Drama, Darling.
- 0:20Speaker 4: Welcome Darlings, Welcome in. It is Tuesday, September tenth, and
- 0:26Speaker 4: today we are going to be covering the Secret Lives
- 0:30Speaker 4: of Mormon Wives, only episode one, because we need to
- 0:35Speaker 4: really dig through it. Now. Those of you who did
- 0:37Speaker 4: see my announcement that Tuesday would involve this show as
- 0:42Speaker 4: well as below Deck med of course, those schedules are
- 0:45Speaker 4: subject to change because Below Deck has been pushed to
- 0:49Speaker 4: Thursday along with the Dubai reunion. So those of you
- 0:53Speaker 4: who are tuning in for that, please stand by. I'll
- 0:58Speaker 4: be coming to you on Thursday. Now, let me get
- 1:01Speaker 4: to my Darling guests who are going to be clocking
- 1:04Speaker 4: in on mom Talk Here. It's Emily Dursis and Jamie Moyer.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Wait, I.
- 1:18Speaker 4: Had you on mute for a second. Sorry about that.
- 1:22Speaker 4: Can you say hello again? Hello, Welcome in, Welcome in
- 1:33Speaker 4: the phrase that's taking the world by storm. But ladies,
- 1:37Speaker 4: one is taking the world by storm. If it's not
- 1:39Speaker 4: Chim Crazy, it's the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives over
- 1:43Speaker 4: on Hulu. If you haven't seen it, you don't, just
- 1:46Speaker 4: listen to our recaps. We'll take care of it. For
- 1:47Speaker 4: you if you're not in the mood. But man alive.
- 1:51Speaker 4: We're here and that's what we're going to talk about.
- 1:53Speaker 4: So mom talk is you know, they got their dances.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Are you guys ready to do some mom talk? Let's go.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Here's what's all day?
- 2:03Speaker 3: That's gone. Get between my thighs, that's go.
- 2:07Speaker 4: Oh my god, your extensions are in my mouth. They
- 2:09Speaker 4: can't breathe no, get out of my way. Doing our
- 2:13Speaker 4: dances again together, guys, me too. It's been like it's
- 2:16Speaker 4: been like two weeks. Kiss me.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Good way, sweet.
- 2:31Speaker 4: I like it's so funny that their decor and their
- 2:33Speaker 4: houses are just like they really make it look so
- 2:36Speaker 4: bright white, like they're in heaven or something, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 4: just some sexy heaven.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Yeah, heaven with like lots of kitchen counter islands, right.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:48Speaker 5: I think it reminds me a lot of obviously the
- 2:51Speaker 5: Salt Lake City homes especially like, uh well yeah, it's
- 2:55Speaker 5: just all of them. And I know I always assume
- 2:57Speaker 5: it's just that they have huge windows that face the on.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Yes, but it's the decors too.
- 3:03Speaker 4: But you're right, it is so bright, like why is
- 3:05Speaker 4: there so much sunlight in Salt Lake City?
- 3:08Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 3:09Speaker 2: Yeah, it's shining off the snow. Amals the sun. It
- 3:14Speaker 2: gets what it is off of the snow, like the reflector,
- 3:17Speaker 2: right into their big bay windows and right onto their
- 3:21Speaker 2: very tacky photos of Jesus.
- 3:26Speaker 4: It's like, ding, You're so right, this one's for Jesus.
- 3:32Speaker 4: You guys, get in line, line up, line up, tits up,
- 3:35Speaker 4: tits up.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Here we go.
- 3:38Speaker 4: I love, I'm already. I can't believe after episode one
- 3:42Speaker 4: where we began and where the episode ended, and it
- 3:45Speaker 4: was just episode one like that, it literally could have
- 3:47Speaker 4: been a whole season right there.
- 3:49Speaker 3: One hundred.
- 3:50Speaker 2: I was every commercial break was more shocking than the
- 3:55Speaker 2: one before it, all the way to the last five minutes,
- 3:58Speaker 2: which was Bay new Nurse.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I thought that.
- 4:06Speaker 5: At first it felt like it was they were trying
- 4:08Speaker 5: to like force something, And then I am because the
- 4:13Speaker 5: initial sit down with Tanya and I'm going to get
- 4:17Speaker 5: every one of these names wrong because they all look the.
- 4:22Speaker 4: I mean, Taylor himp crazy. Okay, Taylor, you know what, Emily,
- 4:29Speaker 4: You're not only are you forgiven, You're Mormon forgiven. But
- 4:33Speaker 4: also I had to go back. I watch it again
- 4:35Speaker 4: and I had to do go really slow and try
- 4:38Speaker 4: to figure out who's who, So you're in good company.
- 4:40Speaker 4: We're all over.
- 4:41Speaker 5: I made a lot of notes and then didn't look
- 4:45Speaker 5: at that when I started to talk.
- 4:48Speaker 2: You know, this reminds me, gals of when I attempted
- 4:52Speaker 2: the two point five times I attempted to watch Game
- 4:55Speaker 2: of Thrones and I had to make myself a key
- 4:59Speaker 2: and then I would old the wiki page like on
- 5:01Speaker 2: my phone next to me, trying to freaking fake youre
- 5:04Speaker 2: out who was related to who? Because it was bothering me.
- 5:09Speaker 2: You can't, you can't not pay attention.
- 5:13Speaker 3: You can't. It's a bos.
- 5:14Speaker 1: You've on Hulus.
- 5:16Speaker 5: And to be like, we're going to start this cast
- 5:18Speaker 5: off with at least seven people, Yeah.
- 5:22Speaker 4: That was confusing. When the mom talkers the original four
- 5:25Speaker 4: which I wrote down, there's only four Taylor, Mickayla Whitney,
- 5:31Speaker 4: and Macy, And whether you hear them or not, there's
- 5:35Speaker 4: a why in every single one of those names. Maybe
- 5:37Speaker 4: seven whys. Yes, Okay, we've got Jamie's got a note.
- 5:41Speaker 4: Macey Whitney. It's nowhere near the camera you're showing us
- 5:45Speaker 4: it is.
- 5:46Speaker 3: It just said Macey Whitney, Tay McKay.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Tay McKay.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Okay, and then there's a Demi, there's there's a Jessie.
- 5:56Speaker 3: There's a Laila.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Yes, there's a male Dakota and a female Dakota. Am
- 6:00Speaker 1: I getting that right? Or is there's just a one.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Just one Dakota, which is Taylor's new boyfriend. Okay, unless
- 6:06Speaker 4: I'm missing something. If there's two Dakota's, I yeah, bring
- 6:12Speaker 4: me wait. And then there's a Jen because Jen is
- 6:17Speaker 4: the one who is the afflec gal I mean the
- 6:21Speaker 4: insurance afflac like that one. No, I'm kidding Ben Afflex
- 6:25Speaker 4: cousin because she married Ben Afflex cousin. She's on this,
- 6:29Speaker 4: but I don't know who or where she is in
- 6:32Speaker 4: this whole show.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Like, I feel like we haven't seen her. Get something
- 6:35Speaker 2: for me right now. So I just wrote down here
- 6:38Speaker 2: Jen twenty five brown hair. That's how I'm remembering her.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Good luck.
- 6:42Speaker 4: I get Wait, Jen, you wrote it down?
- 6:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wrote she was there, j twenty five
- 6:47Speaker 2: brown here. Yeah, she was there. But you know what,
- 6:51Speaker 2: you know, you're unlocking something.
- 6:52Speaker 3: For me, huge, Amie.
- 6:54Speaker 2: I get People magazine news alerts okay in my yep,
- 7:02Speaker 2: and I got one that said Ben Affleck's cousin says
- 7:07Speaker 2: she's never met him. Yeah, and I and I was
- 7:10Speaker 2: thinking to myself, who gives a fuck? Because I didn't
- 7:14Speaker 2: realize that it was this same woman. I was like,
- 7:16Speaker 2: why does people searching out this bitch?
- 7:19Speaker 4: Oh no, I why nice girl? We just realized something.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Line it up. Whoop? Okay, got here, I come. Now
- 7:28Speaker 4: you go, Emily.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Jamie, you go kiss me?
- 7:35Speaker 4: Okay, So all right, I know I know who Jen is.
- 7:38Speaker 4: Now I'm seeing a picture of her. Don't remember what
- 7:40Speaker 4: scene she was in, probably in that really bright one
- 7:43Speaker 4: when it's the like the group of girls that are like,
- 7:46Speaker 4: I don't know what we weren't part of the swinging
- 7:48Speaker 4: at all. And I'm like, okay, if none of you
- 7:50Speaker 4: are part of the swinging, there's like eighteen of you here.
- 7:53Speaker 4: Who was when you could? You flashed to Taylor and
- 7:55Speaker 4: she's like, I mean I've kissed all the husbands like
- 7:58Speaker 4: we were swinging. We were. And then one girl who
- 8:00Speaker 4: was there, she's like, I was there and I didn't
- 8:03Speaker 4: know what was going on. Meanwhile, another gal's like, oh yeah,
- 8:07Speaker 4: they are standing next to each other and like it's
- 8:09Speaker 4: they're getting it on, and it's just all of it
- 8:12Speaker 4: needs to be explained at some point.
- 8:15Speaker 1: And who gave the blowjob for jazz tickets.
- 8:18Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out.
- 8:20Speaker 5: But Angie Harrington's ex husband is Demy's current husband.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Stop it, Yes, there's the right, there's this. Yeah, now's
- 8:33Speaker 1: wives connection.
- 8:35Speaker 4: Salt Lake City Angie Harrington.
- 8:38Speaker 2: I watched and by the way, I wrote a correlation here,
- 8:42Speaker 2: I went to just mention, I think that Whitney from
- 8:47Speaker 2: Whitney Rose, dumb me, reminds me of Whitney Rose in
- 8:52Speaker 2: many ways.
- 8:53Speaker 3: Dumb dum me.
- 8:55Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, okay, there's a lot of Hiller villains and
- 9:00Speaker 5: Hillers and.
- 9:02Speaker 1: All that Utah accent. Accent is like, oh, it's really funny.
- 9:07Speaker 4: Talk about a fullings, fully fullings. So yeah, we will
- 9:13Speaker 4: be getting these names down, no problem. It's just hard
- 9:15Speaker 4: to see the hair through the extensions, you know what
- 9:18Speaker 4: I mean, force of the trees, hair through all the
- 9:21Speaker 4: speaking of I did love like Jesse is that I
- 9:25Speaker 4: have a hair her a place called jay Z Hair.
- 9:28Speaker 4: And she's like, everyone says Jiz hair and I'm like, yeah,
- 9:33Speaker 4: because it looks like jis.
- 9:35Speaker 5: Before she ever said it, I had it in my
- 9:37Speaker 5: notes me too, oh really yeah.
- 9:40Speaker 3: And I was like, oh man, I had it in
- 9:43Speaker 3: my hair.
- 9:49Speaker 4: The dance girls, here we go.
- 9:55Speaker 1: There's a whole the whole culture.
- 9:57Speaker 5: Of influencers in Utah's wild a big deal because and
- 10:02Speaker 5: I never realized it's all centralized there with the Mormon community,
- 10:07Speaker 5: but until all that Ruby Frankie stuff happened, and then
- 10:11Speaker 5: there was like a uh, you know, I forget the
- 10:14Speaker 5: podcast about her is Rise and Fall of Ruby Frankie,
- 10:17Speaker 5: That's what it was, and they really get into like
- 10:19Speaker 5: how Ruby Frankie's parents were influencers and then Ruby Frankie
- 10:22Speaker 5: was an influencer and like people in sternity. Yeah right,
- 10:26Speaker 5: So it's like, what, there's got to be some algorithm
- 10:30Speaker 5: happening there where they're just boosting these people because I
- 10:33Speaker 5: do not understand they're not that compelling in terms of
- 10:38Speaker 5: what their content is just dances like it's not yeah.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, don't don't you know do that
- 10:48Speaker 2: game where you take a shot every time someone says
- 10:50Speaker 2: a word because Mom Tac. I think they think that
- 10:53Speaker 2: staying and keeping bringing up mom Tack is good for
- 10:57Speaker 2: their show, and they don't realize the show is their
- 10:59Speaker 2: fuck up lives, Like they don't have to keep reminding
- 11:02Speaker 2: us of Mom talk.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Like they must said mom talk a thousand fucking.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Times on I was like, enough enough, They're like, when
- 11:10Speaker 2: we started mom talk, I was like, I want to
- 11:12Speaker 2: do mom talk. Well, I already had an idea for
- 11:14Speaker 2: mom talk. I'm like, enough, I'm saying mom talk.
- 11:19Speaker 4: It was there's so much talk about mom talk. Yeah,
- 11:22Speaker 4: And then and and and the fact that Taylor Frankie
- 11:26Speaker 4: Paul is like I started mom talk, you know, which
- 11:31Speaker 4: sounds ridiculous, and yet at the same time you have
- 11:35Speaker 4: to look at it and say, it is quite the
- 11:36Speaker 4: empire that they built. I mean, it's hard to ignore.
- 11:39Speaker 1: AND's how all these influencers are.
- 11:42Speaker 5: I'm always like, wait, I am ten minutes late to
- 11:45Speaker 5: this conversation that the whole world knows about, Like, I
- 11:48Speaker 5: don't know, well.
- 11:49Speaker 4: Did you know about this scandal when it hit? No, okay,
- 11:54Speaker 4: because there is a part of my somebody had, like
- 11:57Speaker 4: the real moms of Bravo had put up something on
- 12:01Speaker 4: their page that said, like, if you guys are not
- 12:03Speaker 4: following this right now, this is you need to check
- 12:06Speaker 4: this out. And so I went down a whole wormhole
- 12:08Speaker 4: and I saw that live that she was talking about
- 12:12Speaker 4: that they kept playing of Taylor saying like, hey, guys,
- 12:15Speaker 4: you know a lot of people have been asking me,
- 12:16Speaker 4: you know, just like have I been swinging? Okay, here's
- 12:19Speaker 4: the answer. And then she just goes on and so
- 12:21Speaker 4: that I did see that, I watched. I went back
- 12:23Speaker 4: and watched a lot of her videos, and yeah, it's
- 12:27Speaker 4: just in her in sweats with long hair and dancing
- 12:30Speaker 4: with her friends and then showing stuff with her husband
- 12:33Speaker 4: and her child.
- 12:36Speaker 5: There's a part of my brain that just doesn't pay
- 12:38Speaker 5: attention to the whole influencer thing until it becomes either
- 12:42Speaker 5: true crime or a scandal of some time, and then
- 12:46Speaker 5: I get way in yes.
- 12:47Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, here we are.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do spend a bit of time on
- 12:53Speaker 2: TikTok at night. You know, after I finished reading my Dosayevsky,
- 12:57Speaker 2: I click over to TikTok for about an hour and yeah,
- 13:01Speaker 2: I'm with you. It's like it's like until a scandal
- 13:03Speaker 2: and then I just so they'll be like, I can't
- 13:05Speaker 2: believe Jillian said that about Taylor, and I'm.
- 13:08Speaker 3: Like, I gotta find out of these two.
- 13:10Speaker 2: I just start clicking everything and then I just beautiful
- 13:14Speaker 2: minded until I fall into a very fitful sleep, not
- 13:17Speaker 2: good rest.
- 13:20Speaker 3: The conflict and nightmares, not good rest.
- 13:23Speaker 4: I'm mom my, mom talked my way to sleep, and
- 13:26Speaker 4: I'm happy it's can be. I'm just happy. No night
- 13:29Speaker 4: terrors here, a lot of night terirs, a lot of
- 13:32Speaker 4: night chairs, a lot of nighttairs. Oh that just reminded me.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my god, I just remembered. I
- 13:40Speaker 4: gotta tell Brett. I woke up while on the floor.
- 13:45Speaker 4: I'm under going like this under my bed looking for something.
- 13:50Speaker 4: I woke up on the floor looking under my bed.
- 13:52Speaker 4: Where was he in the middle of the night.
- 13:54Speaker 3: He was sleeping, and you were you rolled out of bed.
- 14:00Speaker 3: We're on the floor of sleep searching.
- 14:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.
- 14:06Speaker 3: I just made up.
- 14:08Speaker 4: I love that it could be. No, anyway, everybody knows
- 14:12Speaker 4: that I've got these sleep issues. So I'm just keeping
- 14:14Speaker 4: you all up to date on that. That's all I'm saying. Okay,
- 14:17Speaker 4: so let's get back to mom talk. Why you talk
- 14:19Speaker 4: about how crazy I am? Anyway, Let's try aboutw crazy
- 14:23Speaker 4: they are? Okay? So, uh the Book of Taylor that
- 14:32Speaker 4: being the first episode. Loved the name of it. Cute.
- 14:36Speaker 4: She's twenty eight, She's always a wild child. She was
- 14:38Speaker 4: pressured to get married to Tate, Taint.
- 14:46Speaker 5: Taint Tatee or Jace because then somebody else I thought
- 14:49Speaker 5: was into a JS.
- 14:50Speaker 4: So Jase is someone else's husband. Tate is her first
- 14:54Speaker 4: husband got so she was pressured to get married to
- 14:57Speaker 4: Taint right after high school and they got married in
- 15:01Speaker 4: the temple, which is a really big deal, as we
- 15:03Speaker 4: know from Heather Gay, which is so shocking to me
- 15:07Speaker 4: that they were able to get married there based on
- 15:09Speaker 4: everything we've learned I have read Heather's book. Knowing how
- 15:13Speaker 4: sacred and how hard it is to get married in
- 15:15Speaker 4: the temple is so shocking to me, considering that she
- 15:18Speaker 4: was a wild child and she was pregnant when she
- 15:21Speaker 4: got married, Like how did they allow that? So that
- 15:23Speaker 4: that's just odd to.
- 15:25Speaker 5: Me About the parents too, like if her parents are
- 15:29Speaker 5: full Mormon and his parents are full Mormon.
- 15:33Speaker 4: That they have that absolutely has to be in Yes,
- 15:35Speaker 4: it has to be in place, but like the child
- 15:38Speaker 4: themselves also has to have you know, some sort of
- 15:41Speaker 4: clout in order and and you know, to be able
- 15:43Speaker 4: to do that, like you get virginity, I mean, you know,
- 15:48Speaker 4: getting pregnant before marriage in from what I understand in
- 15:52Speaker 4: the Mormon you know, uh religion, I thought, you know
- 15:57Speaker 4: that you can get married before marriage. Yes, she did.
- 16:00Speaker 1: I thought that was that was another one.
- 16:04Speaker 5: Taylor just was having sex before marriage and that's why
- 16:07Speaker 5: her mom made her get married.
- 16:10Speaker 4: Okay, well I believe that is correct.
- 16:13Speaker 3: I believe my face.
- 16:16Speaker 4: You're right, You're right. She was sixteen. Oh god, I'm.
- 16:20Speaker 3: Take up some let's make up some rhymes about this.
- 16:22Speaker 3: So it's like Kayla pregnant, married young Taylor and scary.
- 16:28Speaker 4: That she's the mole skin problem, skin skin get problem.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Okay, good, we got that. That's Kayla married, young skin
- 16:38Speaker 3: problem get married. It's it's like a kind of rhyme.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:45Speaker 4: So all right, So now we know they haven't seen
- 16:49Speaker 4: each other since the swinging scandal, and now we know
- 16:52Speaker 4: that Taylor is divorced. It's been three months, and she
- 16:55Speaker 4: already has a new boyfriend. Taylor and Macey meet up
- 16:59Speaker 4: for coffee and they talk about her new boyfriend, Dakota,
- 17:03Speaker 4: who d ms her on Instagram, and uh, they're, you know,
- 17:08Speaker 4: getting to know each other. And Whitney is moving back
- 17:10Speaker 4: from Hawaii.
- 17:13Speaker 5: That Chili lived there for two months, right, and then
- 17:16Speaker 5: they bought a house unseen back in her hometown.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Right, But.
- 17:23Speaker 4: She sounds like a vacation.
- 17:25Speaker 2: That's an extended vacation. Moving back, and two months is
- 17:28Speaker 2: extended vacation.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:31Speaker 2: I don't know the exact fig but it ate two
- 17:33Speaker 2: months extended vacation.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Sorry.
- 17:35Speaker 4: Right, it's shifty, you know. And she's like blaming it
- 17:39Speaker 4: on the scandal. She was just looking for a reason to, like,
- 17:42Speaker 4: I tail it out of that city.
- 17:44Speaker 2: I thought to go to Hawaii for two months and
- 17:47Speaker 2: if you have the means to do so, and the
- 17:49Speaker 2: house they bought, I really was actually curious.
- 17:52Speaker 3: How are the husbands making their chatterish?
- 17:54Speaker 5: I am curious about that in the Mormon culture because
- 17:59Speaker 5: they seem to have gigantic homes, tons of money.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Are there any poor Mormons?
- 18:07Speaker 3: Yeah? Good question.
- 18:08Speaker 4: Stand up, This one's for you. Hey, poor Mormons. Here
- 18:12Speaker 4: we go.
- 18:13Speaker 3: Whoo getting a line kiss me.
- 18:21Speaker 2: I wanted to say something about that that initial meetup
- 18:24Speaker 2: with Macy. Again, Macy right out of the gate at
- 18:27Speaker 2: the meetup, just as a person who's procured a lot
- 18:31Speaker 2: of insight into reality TV over the years. The first conversation,
- 18:36Speaker 2: they sit down to coffee and Macy goes.
- 18:39Speaker 3: Jacob's not initiating sex very much. What should I do?
- 18:42Speaker 2: And I was like, this is what they think they
- 18:44Speaker 2: have to talk. They don't realize that there's someone's so
- 18:47Speaker 2: messed up that we don't need them to start a
- 18:49Speaker 2: conversation like that.
- 18:50Speaker 3: He was like, how are you doing it?
- 18:52Speaker 2: She's like, well, basically, Jacob doesn't initiate sacs. I'm like,
- 18:54Speaker 2: you don't even need to work so hard to grab
- 18:57Speaker 2: our interests. And when you do that, we call that pandering.
- 19:01Speaker 2: You're you're doing that to try to create like a storyline,
- 19:04Speaker 2: but they don't understand they barely have to do anything right.
- 19:08Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even know if we can put that
- 19:11Speaker 5: on them so much as the producers trying to move
- 19:14Speaker 5: the action along or.
- 19:15Speaker 4: A ranky because she was like or Taylor whatever, She's like, well,
- 19:22Speaker 4: I was like, so, what's going on with you in Dakota?
- 19:24Speaker 4: Like I want to hear everything, like holler, And then
- 19:28Speaker 4: she was like, well, I'm going to have you talk first.
- 19:30Speaker 4: So she was like, uh, we're not having that? Did
- 19:34Speaker 4: I share enough? What the fuck is going on with Dakota? Like,
- 19:37Speaker 4: let's you're the show, that's why we're here.
- 19:43Speaker 5: Oh?
- 19:43Speaker 4: I did love that, Like Taylor. During this conversation, Taylor
- 19:47Speaker 4: has like an offshoot con confessional where she's like, I
- 19:52Speaker 4: did step out of the agreement my husband wanted to share.
- 19:56Speaker 4: I caught feelings for a man that my husband welcomed
- 20:00Speaker 4: in to our house. I was like, here we go
- 20:07Speaker 4: with the welcome in, ladies, be careful who your husband
- 20:10Speaker 4: welcomes in. So now she's just basically, you know, explaining
- 20:15Speaker 4: that to us as an audience. And then Macy we
- 20:18Speaker 4: colt over caught. We go over to her confessional and
- 20:22Speaker 4: then we get a mom talk shout out again. There
- 20:25Speaker 4: when the scandal hit, no one knew what mom talk was.
- 20:30Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I thought that it was so big
- 20:32Speaker 4: that that's why it's mom talk.
- 20:34Speaker 1: You know.
- 20:34Speaker 4: She's like, well, are we just a bunch of swingers
- 20:37Speaker 4: or women fighting for Mormon patriarchy? You know It's like,
- 20:43Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of on one level understand. I mean,
- 20:47Speaker 4: what like the whole fighting against the Mormon culture by
- 20:52Speaker 4: you know, dancing sexy dances. But is that really the
- 20:56Speaker 4: message that we're like, what do we think about that?
- 20:58Speaker 5: It's yeah, they really weren't at that point in a
- 21:02Speaker 5: war with a patriarchy. They were just doing exactly what
- 21:07Speaker 5: was allowed. It's not like they were having a couple
- 21:09Speaker 5: of drinks or something, or on camera or you know,
- 21:13Speaker 5: all of the fighting happened outside of it. They were
- 21:18Speaker 5: just doing dumb dances.
- 21:19Speaker 2: But the skirts were off. They were in athletic wear athleisure.
- 21:25Speaker 1: But you can be in that.
- 21:27Speaker 4: It's just that you can't wear your underwear though.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Yea, the underwear, the undergarments.
- 21:33Speaker 4: But you know, that was an interesting thing when they
- 21:36Speaker 4: showed all the other gals over in that white White
- 21:39Speaker 4: House and all the white women in the White House,
- 21:43Speaker 4: they were like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe how
- 21:46Speaker 4: low the breastfeeding garments are. You can like really show
- 21:49Speaker 4: your boobies. Yeah, because they're holy underwear. They're holy garments.
- 21:57Speaker 4: They usually go up to like probably hear, oh yeah,
- 22:00Speaker 4: are you guys really bothering to wear that underneath your
- 22:03Speaker 4: sexy ass clothes? Are you really doing that? That's what
- 22:07Speaker 4: I want to know.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gay.
- 22:10Speaker 5: The other would wear like spandex all the time, right,
- 22:13Speaker 5: those spandex shorts.
- 22:14Speaker 1: Understand.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so so hot. I know.
- 22:19Speaker 4: That's why they had to live in Salt Lake City
- 22:20Speaker 4: because it gets so cold there, you know.
- 22:24Speaker 3: Not in those crouches. I think that it's like, yeah,
- 22:32Speaker 3: it's like they don't drink, Like they definitely don't drink.
- 22:36Speaker 2: There's certain things that they do adhere to and then
- 22:38Speaker 2: they do the sexy dances and then they soft swing.
- 22:42Speaker 3: It's also odd.
- 22:44Speaker 2: I do think that, you know how you said earlier,
- 22:46Speaker 2: who if everyone that's saying they didn't soft swing, what
- 22:50Speaker 2: I was trying to do was pay close attention to
- 22:53Speaker 2: the ones who didn't bring it up at all.
- 22:56Speaker 3: So basically, if five, if five.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Girls said they don't do it, and we're introduced to eight,
- 23:03Speaker 2: I think we have our answer.
- 23:07Speaker 3: It's the final three.
- 23:09Speaker 4: So of all those gals that were in that meeting, well,
- 23:13Speaker 4: the TikTok rehearsal and then the sit down, you think
- 23:17Speaker 4: that some of them there were part of it.
- 23:19Speaker 3: At least one.
- 23:20Speaker 4: Okay, to be, it has to be. But it's so
- 23:25Speaker 4: odd to me that at this point no one is
- 23:28Speaker 4: saying who it is because it's already out there, right, Well,
- 23:33Speaker 4: I guess we'll find out.
- 23:35Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe at the time that they filmed this, it
- 23:37Speaker 5: wasn't all all out there. Maybe it was just like
- 23:40Speaker 5: the like a blanket of idea. But we don't have
- 23:44Speaker 5: confirmation yet, okay, And there will be so oh, go ahead, Emily, Yeah,
- 23:49Speaker 5: I think I just need I need to.
- 23:52Speaker 4: Okay, wait, Jamie, what okay, what did you want to say? James?
- 23:56Speaker 2: I think there are mom talkers who swung, and now
- 24:00Speaker 2: they're not ever going to be introduced to us. They
- 24:03Speaker 2: would be people we could find by watching the videos
- 24:07Speaker 2: and also determining who. So basically, if we really wanted
- 24:11Speaker 2: to do a deep dive, which I don't, I would
- 24:14Speaker 2: look into a mom talk few mom Talk videos, count
- 24:17Speaker 2: the girls, eliminate the ones I've met on the show,
- 24:21Speaker 2: and I would assume those other four to five hos
- 24:24Speaker 2: did it, and then the ones that are left from.
- 24:27Speaker 3: The video group.
- 24:28Speaker 2: I would then cross reference with the ones who and
- 24:31Speaker 2: their confessionals said they didn't do it, like I believe
- 24:35Speaker 2: jen or Jesse are also could have been. There was
- 24:38Speaker 2: another one now not Macie. Jen Or Jesse said she
- 24:43Speaker 2: wanted us and she flirted with my husband.
- 24:45Speaker 3: So but I think that.
- 24:47Speaker 2: You could basically there was at least two in their
- 24:49Speaker 2: confessionals who did not say we didn't swing, and I.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Think they did. That's okay. Also, I just discover it.
- 24:56Speaker 3: You'd have to cross reference some stuff.
- 24:58Speaker 4: I remember watching some of those videos. And no kidding,
- 25:02Speaker 4: there were probably like fifteen girls in some of those
- 25:05Speaker 4: videos dancing, So I think you're right. I think that
- 25:09Speaker 4: some of them, you know, got sifted out and then
- 25:12Speaker 4: after this canal, we're.
- 25:13Speaker 5: Probably just were like recommitting themselves to the church or
- 25:17Speaker 5: something like that too. So maybe we'll eventually meet them
- 25:22Speaker 5: when they're like, you know what, I'm out of the church.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Yeah, moving to Hawaii for six weeks and then moving back,
- 25:32Speaker 2: those are extended vacations. I don't like the terminology.
- 25:36Speaker 5: Did you guys catch that Mikayla thing where she was
- 25:39Speaker 5: when she got pregnant She was sixteen and her husband
- 25:42Speaker 5: was twenty one.
- 25:43Speaker 3: Ah?
- 25:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was really creepy.
- 25:47Speaker 3: And the numbers are not appropriate.
- 25:50Speaker 4: That's very old school Mormonism, you know what I mean,
- 25:52Speaker 4: like that older with the younger and that's really not Yeah,
- 25:57Speaker 4: not good. Yeah, just five years, yeah, terrifying.
- 26:03Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mind the years.
- 26:05Speaker 5: Once she's her brain is fully formed over, you know.
- 26:10Speaker 4: Yeah, like Demi and Brett. Demi is twenty nine and
- 26:14Speaker 4: Brett is forty six.
- 26:16Speaker 1: That's a that's a stretch, but yes, but at least.
- 26:20Speaker 4: They didn't get married when she was super I mean, yeah, right,
- 26:24Speaker 4: So like.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Our Amy and Brett, Brett is the thousand and Amy
- 26:29Speaker 2: is twenty one.
- 26:30Speaker 3: I love that about it. Your relationship.
- 26:32Speaker 4: It works for us. I love that for us too.
- 26:36Speaker 1: Brayant.
- 26:37Speaker 4: So the girls are all talking. They're in that white house,
- 26:40Speaker 4: and they talk about Whitney and like nobody knows like
- 26:44Speaker 4: why she left and why she's coming back, and it's
- 26:48Speaker 4: just so weird, you know, it's all so weird. And
- 26:51Speaker 4: to me walking away, even just from this episode, I'm like,
- 26:54Speaker 4: Whitney is the problem. You know, Whitney is the problem
- 26:58Speaker 4: based on what happened when they all got back together
- 27:00Speaker 4: again with Taylor and with Taylor in the mix and
- 27:06Speaker 4: Whitney in the mix. But before we get to that,
- 27:08Speaker 4: we do have to talk about how we met Taylor's
- 27:10Speaker 4: mom and how this gal just has had it and
- 27:15Speaker 4: she can handle herself without even using a curse word,
- 27:18Speaker 4: which I was very impressed with.
- 27:20Speaker 5: Yeah, but she's the problem. Like you want to look
- 27:24Speaker 5: at Taylor's problems, they started because her mom made her
- 27:27Speaker 5: get married because she was having sex.
- 27:31Speaker 4: I mean like, yeah, yeah, you know, I mean that's
- 27:34Speaker 4: a good point.
- 27:36Speaker 5: Yeah, and she was still at an age I think
- 27:38Speaker 5: where she could have been helpful and just being like, hey,
- 27:43Speaker 5: this is life, you don't need to get married. But no,
- 27:46Speaker 5: she like went full in marry this person.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like the mom popping off, but I agree.
- 27:55Speaker 2: I'm like, obviously the mom is popping off, but also
- 27:58Speaker 2: a high level enabler as in the babysitter. And she
- 28:03Speaker 2: even said daddy and I'll be get the ones coming
- 28:05Speaker 2: to clean it up. Taylor is a full mess though,
- 28:09Speaker 2: as we learned by the end of the episode Disaster
- 28:11Speaker 2: and and but yeah, I love the mom's red flag comment.
- 28:15Speaker 3: And then she deleted her mom's comment. I'm like, oh
- 28:17Speaker 3: my god, this is so social media right now.
- 28:20Speaker 4: Hell, I was like, mom, you're that thirsty, you're gonna
- 28:23Speaker 4: pop into these comments like that. That says a lot.
- 28:27Speaker 1: It says extensions said a lot too.
- 28:31Speaker 5: That was confusing to me because they like I would
- 28:34Speaker 5: think Taylor's got the resources and is very aware of extensions,
- 28:40Speaker 5: but not for herself, it seems.
- 28:43Speaker 1: And Taylor's extensions.
- 28:45Speaker 5: Taylor's extensions were wild, and so was her mom's. Her
- 28:50Speaker 5: mom had like two different things going on up here.
- 28:54Speaker 4: Shit, I missed it.
- 28:54Speaker 2: They need to head over toiz Town care of.
- 29:00Speaker 5: Get over to the Meanwhile, Whitney looked greatest redhead, I
- 29:03Speaker 5: will say, And it was.
- 29:06Speaker 4: Transformation.
- 29:07Speaker 3: Literally, I was like, should I change my hair to red?
- 29:10Speaker 3: That's so much. I liked how it looked on her.
- 29:13Speaker 4: And so it really did look natural. She looks like
- 29:15Speaker 4: a natural redhead and I love it. And it was confusing,
- 29:18Speaker 4: you know. I thought, this is a real risk because
- 29:20Speaker 4: it's hard enough to keep up with who's who already,
- 29:23Speaker 4: and now you're gonna throw someone in the mix who
- 29:25Speaker 4: came in with short blonde hair flashbacks of short blonde hair,
- 29:29Speaker 4: TikTok dances with dark brown hair, and now you're gonna
- 29:33Speaker 4: dye her hair and throw extensions on it on her,
- 29:36Speaker 4: put her in a new place.
- 29:37Speaker 5: We're screwed now that you're putting it that way, Because
- 29:41Speaker 5: at the time I was like, thank you, find me
- 29:43Speaker 5: some a person that I can see for their red hair.
- 29:46Speaker 3: I got it.
- 29:47Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
- 29:48Speaker 4: it's all it all worked out for the best.
- 29:50Speaker 1: But you're right, it's gonna mess us up. In the flashbacks.
- 29:55Speaker 2: I think if you were to ask me, I think
- 29:58Speaker 2: it's gonna be Taylor and wit He's season with some
- 30:02Speaker 2: light touches from a few of these others. But we're
- 30:05Speaker 2: not going to We're not going to figure Whitney because
- 30:07Speaker 2: I have a feeling and she came in hard and.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Didn'tone notice this. This was stunning to me.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Chase in the car ride had frosted tipsna.
- 30:19Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh, Connor, yeah, Connor.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Yeah, Connor in the car ride had frosted tips. Connor
- 30:27Speaker 2: in the crying tender.
- 30:29Speaker 3: Scene, Yes, buzz shaved.
- 30:32Speaker 4: Yep, mm hm.
- 30:33Speaker 5: These Mormon men go through the hardest boy band phase
- 30:37Speaker 5: at a late and late like early adult into like
- 30:42Speaker 5: full adult. They go into a boy band phase, and
- 30:45Speaker 5: as board had happened.
- 30:49Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to move out of the Taylor's mom
- 30:51Speaker 4: so we can talk about Connor and Whitney. But I
- 30:55Speaker 4: did think that it was interesting to have Taylor's mom
- 31:00Speaker 4: be a part of this, and I'm glad she's a
- 31:02Speaker 4: part of it because we can kind of trace it back.
- 31:04Speaker 4: As you guys both said, you know, her mom is
- 31:07Speaker 4: part of the huge problem here, while she's forcing her
- 31:09Speaker 4: to get married at a young age and so on
- 31:11Speaker 4: and so forth, and now her saying like, you know,
- 31:15Speaker 4: you're not a bad person, You've just done bad things
- 31:18Speaker 4: and it's just a lot of shaming and it's tough,
- 31:23Speaker 4: and she's like, have you talked to the bishop at church?
- 31:25Speaker 4: It's like, well, you know, at this point, I think
- 31:28Speaker 4: that ship has sailed, mom, you know what I mean, Like,
- 31:30Speaker 4: at this point, you're representing Mormonism on a level that
- 31:37Speaker 4: has now transferred over into transitioned over into mom talk
- 31:43Speaker 4: and soft swinging and god knows what else coming down
- 31:47Speaker 4: the pike. But then she has to tell her mom
- 31:51Speaker 4: because she's seeing Dakota and her mom's not happy about
- 31:53Speaker 4: that because he's an addict. I did think her mom
- 31:57Speaker 4: is right when she says you should be taking this
- 31:59Speaker 4: time to settle down after divorced. I mean that as
- 32:01Speaker 4: absolutely agree. Yeah. So, but when you're that young, you
- 32:07Speaker 4: just go go go, So it's like you're you're just
- 32:09Speaker 4: gonna be talking to a wall. So now Taylor's like,
- 32:12Speaker 4: I just take a pregnancy test tonight, And then her
- 32:15Speaker 4: mom's like, are you for real?
- 32:16Speaker 1: Are you for real?
- 32:18Speaker 4: Are you for real? Are you are you real real?
- 32:21Speaker 4: You're right, it is real.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Are you for real?
- 32:25Speaker 3: Are you for all?
- 32:27Speaker 1: Are you ferra?
- 32:28Speaker 4: Are you for real?
- 32:29Speaker 2: And then she's just like, because I'm happy with the
- 32:33Speaker 2: coda coming inside me fulls up.
- 32:37Speaker 4: Happy and then she's like, you are so stupid, and
- 32:43Speaker 4: then she leaves. And then let's talk about Whitney and
- 32:46Speaker 4: Connor in the packed car and uh, they're moving into
- 32:51Speaker 4: their new house. So they're in this packed car and
- 32:54Speaker 4: they have two babies in the back seat and way
- 32:58Speaker 4: too many boxes next to those children. Anybody safety probably.
- 33:04Speaker 1: It was so confused and not like that m I.
- 33:09Speaker 3: They're like, like, you need a snack. I'm like, are
- 33:11Speaker 3: they talking to one of these towers of boxes that
- 33:13Speaker 3: the here.
- 33:17Speaker 5: Eight solid seconds where I was like, it's gotta be
- 33:20Speaker 5: like a dog in a pet carrier.
- 33:23Speaker 4: There's no no way, got no way back there, no
- 33:25Speaker 4: way idiots. I mean, this is what like young even
- 33:30Speaker 4: young parents can make mistakes. But like you genuinely have
- 33:34Speaker 4: your car packed to the gills with boxes like that
- 33:37Speaker 4: next to your children, not one, but two. They're probably
- 33:41Speaker 4: making them hold them. We don't even see what's happening
- 33:44Speaker 4: on the other side. We can't even see them.
- 33:47Speaker 3: They can't afford a truck, Gamy.
- 33:48Speaker 2: They spent all that money living in Hawaii for two
- 33:50Speaker 2: full months. Yeah, they can't afford to you all they
- 33:54Speaker 2: live hye they live Hawaii for as long as it
- 33:59Speaker 2: takes me but tweet root touch ups.
- 34:01Speaker 4: You know, Honestly, they came back because this show. I mean,
- 34:05Speaker 4: they probably would have just stayed there, so obviously that's
- 34:09Speaker 4: the reason. I have no idea why Whitney's coming back.
- 34:11Speaker 4: It's so strange. So uh so they oh my god,
- 34:18Speaker 4: oh when they get into their new house and they're like, hey,
- 34:21Speaker 4: let's try this champagne. Yeah, and then they're like, you know,
- 34:25Speaker 4: it's just so funny because they never tried alcoholic. Don't
- 34:27Speaker 4: waste it on us, Like, don't, don't, don't, don't do
- 34:31Speaker 4: it now. I don't want you to do that for
- 34:34Speaker 4: this show.
- 34:34Speaker 5: By the way, I'm sure that is cheap ass champagne.
- 34:39Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh, I wonder if.
- 34:41Speaker 5: They have drank before and they're just doing this big
- 34:43Speaker 5: spit out thing so that they don't get a ding
- 34:46Speaker 5: from the church on it, like, because it was very
- 34:50Speaker 5: like get the water going.
- 34:52Speaker 1: I can't believe this. I mean, maybe maybe I'm wrong,
- 34:55Speaker 1: but just.
- 34:57Speaker 3: The opposite way. But I'm feeling you're laying down.
- 35:00Speaker 2: But I was thinking back to the first time I
- 35:03Speaker 2: ever tasted both beer and liquor and champagne, and I
- 35:07Speaker 2: was likeugh, like they don't taste good to the first taste.
- 35:10Speaker 3: None of it does. Now it tastes like a delicious
- 35:13Speaker 3: dream but like you know, so I.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Kind of was like, But then, also, why would you
- 35:19Speaker 2: wait so long never to taste alcohol only to do
- 35:21Speaker 2: it on camera when you get your new house?
- 35:23Speaker 3: Od odd?
- 35:25Speaker 5: And it Also, it's not like these people they seem
- 35:28Speaker 5: to go through houses, so it doesn't seem to be
- 35:31Speaker 5: a big deal that they have a new.
- 35:33Speaker 4: House, right WHOA, there's champagne here? Who would have put
- 35:37Speaker 4: this here? Honey? Probably are real.
- 35:42Speaker 1: I mean, like they always do when we buy houses.
- 35:45Speaker 2: Connor, remember when we bought our house for two months
- 35:50Speaker 2: and it was fully furnished because it was an airbnb
- 35:52Speaker 2: in Hawaii?
- 35:56Speaker 3: Lout it?
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- 40:34Speaker 4: into this first meeting with Taylor, Mikayla Whitney, and god
- 40:38Speaker 4: knows who else. Oh no, Ron bb fun. Actually it's not.
- 40:49Speaker 4: This is like the mini meeting at the restaurant first
- 40:53Speaker 4: and she's like, I got new boobs and then can
- 40:56Speaker 4: I touch them? And I'm like, can we just please
- 40:58Speaker 4: stop normalizing touching people's boobs in public, like when they
- 41:03Speaker 4: get a boob job. I'm just so over it. The
- 41:05Speaker 4: housewives do it all the time, and it's just it's
- 41:07Speaker 4: just weird, like just you're doing it for the camera,
- 41:12Speaker 4: You're trying to be funny and it's just awful.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Like when there's not a boob job, So like next
- 41:19Speaker 1: time when.
- 41:20Speaker 4: There's a boob when there's not a boob job, welcome in,
- 41:24Speaker 4: Welcome in. So then they kind of, you know, Whitney
- 41:28Speaker 4: rubs me the wrong way from the get go. I
- 41:30Speaker 4: don't know if you guys feel that way. But she
- 41:32Speaker 4: was like, it's very id gaff energy, and I was like,
- 41:35Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I just threw up really hard, like I
- 41:37Speaker 4: can't with that type of personality, and I don't feel
- 41:40Speaker 4: safe with you that you did that live and I
- 41:43Speaker 4: don't trust you. Now I get I guess I can
- 41:46Speaker 4: get it. But by the end of this episode, I'm
- 41:47Speaker 4: so not team Whitney that I'm left with not I
- 41:51Speaker 4: have to be against her, you know, I just have to.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Whitney had me.
- 41:55Speaker 5: I was on Whitney's side until that final family meeting
- 42:00Speaker 5: when yeah but yeah.
- 42:02Speaker 4: So they basically hug it out and they talk about
- 42:06Speaker 4: mom talk again and that's that.
- 42:09Speaker 2: So that's a little fake. That whole exchange, by the way, it.
- 42:13Speaker 4: Felt very fake.
- 42:15Speaker 1: I want to also give a little bit of a nod.
- 42:18Speaker 5: To the producers though, because like they don't know what
- 42:20Speaker 5: the hell they're doing in these first couple episodes.
- 42:23Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it is going to
- 42:25Speaker 1: feel forced.
- 42:26Speaker 5: And when I I'm only saying this out loud now
- 42:29Speaker 5: to myself because I'm like, well, there's so much there
- 42:33Speaker 5: that I bet it. I bet it settles comfortably to
- 42:37Speaker 5: feel very natural very soon.
- 42:39Speaker 1: But we're kind of like it's a pilot.
- 42:40Speaker 5: So it's kind of forced, I think, And that's okay,
- 42:45Speaker 5: I bet okay, Yeah, that's nice.
- 42:47Speaker 3: That's nice. Emily good, very nice.
- 42:49Speaker 4: So nice of you.
- 42:51Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, you're right, No, you're absolutely right.
- 42:53Speaker 4: No.
- 42:53Speaker 2: I think I think that sometimes. I think we've all
- 42:56Speaker 2: felt that in our own lives. We think our lives
- 42:58Speaker 2: are normal, and then someone else might be like I
- 43:00Speaker 2: cannot believe that you are like this, and we're like,
- 43:02Speaker 2: what do you mean?
- 43:03Speaker 3: Like right? You know.
- 43:05Speaker 2: So there's some of that too, where they think that
- 43:07Speaker 2: they're not interesting but they don't understand they've got everything
- 43:10Speaker 2: we need right there.
- 43:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Then the exception might be the Valley, which I think
- 43:14Speaker 2: they rolled into just acting like themselves right away are delights.
- 43:19Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and they were all seasoned for the most part,
- 43:21Speaker 5: I mean it, And to your point, Jamie, like that is,
- 43:24Speaker 5: You're right, that is unusual because the people that weren't
- 43:29Speaker 5: reality stars prior to the Valley seem to hit their group.
- 43:33Speaker 4: Which a majority weren't seasoned. Well, I guess there's two
- 43:38Speaker 4: Jack's all three, you know. Okay, So Whitney and Connor
- 43:43Speaker 4: with their new hairdos, sit down in their new house
- 43:46Speaker 4: and we basically get his big secret told to us.
- 43:51Speaker 4: And I have to say, you know, him admitting to
- 43:53Speaker 4: the tender and being in contact with women, you know,
- 44:00Speaker 4: honestly was shocking to me because I really did think
- 44:03Speaker 4: it was just a stupid rumor. So I didn't expect
- 44:05Speaker 4: this revealed, did you guys?
- 44:06Speaker 1: Yes, I thought I thought it was going to be men. Yeah,
- 44:10Speaker 1: I thought it was too Yeah.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the biggest shock to me when she
- 44:16Speaker 2: was when she said women, I thought he was maybe bisexual.
- 44:20Speaker 4: And maybe he is, and maybe they haven't peeled that
- 44:22Speaker 4: back right, But I did find it to be a
- 44:27Speaker 4: shock only because I didn't read too much about the
- 44:30Speaker 4: characters on this show, and now I've heard that like
- 44:34Speaker 4: one had a porn addiction. That's the only thing I
- 44:36Speaker 4: had heard from someone, and I thought, oh, well, that's
- 44:40Speaker 4: just in the you know, when you're Mormon. If you
- 44:42Speaker 4: have ever seen like, you know, a swimsuit calendar, you're
- 44:46Speaker 4: addicted to horn, you know, you know, if anything that
- 44:49Speaker 4: we've learned from the you know, Ruby Frankie, Jody hildebrandt
- 44:53Speaker 4: PS Psycho, what she would, you know, tell these men
- 44:58Speaker 4: is like you have a you've got a problem, and
- 45:00Speaker 4: you need to stay away from your family. And it's
- 45:03Speaker 4: like they've maybe looked at one video or you know
- 45:05Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like they just really So I thought
- 45:08Speaker 4: that that was going to be the exaggerated thing, and
- 45:12Speaker 4: maybe it is still exaggerated, but to find out that
- 45:14Speaker 4: it is really real, that he was actually communicating with
- 45:17Speaker 4: people from the very beginning is wild. And so that
- 45:22Speaker 4: was a shocker, and the fact that she has decided
- 45:25Speaker 4: to stay is also interesting. She feels that she might
- 45:28Speaker 4: be judged for that because of her decision to stay,
- 45:32Speaker 4: which she shared with everybody at that meeting. But now
- 45:36Speaker 4: let's talk about that meeting, because it was my understanding
- 45:39Speaker 4: that Taylor was the one that had the big news
- 45:42Speaker 4: and she's the one who called the meeting, right, I
- 45:45Speaker 4: have something to tell you guys, or maybe she only
- 45:49Speaker 4: said that to one person.
- 45:51Speaker 2: I think Wendy called the meeting because that's why she
- 45:53Speaker 2: was complaining that her tender thundergut stolen, which it's me
- 45:59Speaker 2: and my husband's on Tinder. I'd be happy for someone
- 46:02Speaker 2: to take over the topic. I wouldn't be like, well,
- 46:05Speaker 2: here's my thought. I'd be like, let's move past this.
- 46:07Speaker 4: It's yeah, thank you. And that also clearly not real
- 46:11Speaker 4: friendship at all on her part. You know, if you
- 46:14Speaker 4: share and this is a family meeting, what do you
- 46:16Speaker 4: expect everyone else to do? If it's a family meeting,
- 46:19Speaker 4: everyone is supposed to chime in about what's going on.
- 46:22Speaker 4: She has it all wrong.
- 46:24Speaker 1: That's why she lost me. I agree.
- 46:26Speaker 5: The way Taylor handled outing everybody was not cool at all, and.
- 46:31Speaker 1: So she had me.
- 46:33Speaker 5: And then when she had that little like temper tantrum
- 46:36Speaker 5: about just like other people feeling comfortable enough to share,
- 46:41Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, you're gone wild.
- 46:45Speaker 4: She really believed that, I mean, she with all of
- 46:47Speaker 4: everything in her And I thought, well, you are right
- 46:49Speaker 4: for reality because you are so delusional and so off
- 46:53Speaker 4: the mark that this is going to cause chaos. You
- 46:56Speaker 4: are so self involved that you can't have someone else
- 46:59Speaker 4: have a problem.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Yeah, And Frank frankly, Taylor's news was much more wild
- 47:06Speaker 2: and awful and big and wild, you know, and she
- 47:09Speaker 2: was like you can see her sitting there being like,
- 47:12Speaker 2: oh and she should have been more sympathetic.
- 47:15Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, but let's speaking.
- 47:19Speaker 2: Of delusion of real quick on the tailor end. Yeah, Dakota,
- 47:23Speaker 2: don't look like I know, Jake and Jill and how
- 47:25Speaker 2: you wrong?
- 47:27Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, are you guys watching presumed presumed innocent?
- 47:31Speaker 3: I watched it.
- 47:33Speaker 1: Nobody tell Taylor swift, but Jake.
- 47:42Speaker 3: Handsome little fellow.
- 47:45Speaker 5: Presumed in my pants, This one's for you, Jake, Dyllan Hall.
- 47:52Speaker 4: Girls light it up, n it up, n it up.
- 47:55Speaker 3: Kiss me.
- 47:57Speaker 4: I mean all they do is just like turn around
- 47:59Speaker 4: and like smack their butts in sweatthands.
- 48:02Speaker 3: They're bony butts. I challenge but all.
- 48:07Speaker 5: The darlings, I challenge you to become influencers by only
- 48:11Speaker 5: putting dance videos up and let's see what happens.
- 48:15Speaker 4: Okay, okay. By the way, I do feel like.
- 48:22Speaker 1: And then occasionally like cook on camera badly.
- 48:28Speaker 2: I have seen people that look a lot like me
- 48:33Speaker 2: on TikTok lip syncing to the current hits, and they
- 48:37Speaker 2: have a good following it, They're like, look at this
- 48:40Speaker 2: old lady lip syncing to ice spice or whatever.
- 48:46Speaker 5: The next time I see you, you're gonna have You're
- 48:49Speaker 5: gonna be driving an influencer car.
- 48:52Speaker 1: Not human.
- 48:54Speaker 4: It's a brand straight out of the motor City of Detroit. Uh.
- 49:02Speaker 4: You know, when Whitney was crying and sharing all this,
- 49:04Speaker 4: it was very vulnerable. It was really amazing, and I
- 49:07Speaker 4: love that when she said, I hope you just like
- 49:10Speaker 4: don't look at him differently, and Taylor's response was if
- 49:14Speaker 4: you guys can get past my stuff, heck, like of course.
- 49:17Speaker 4: You know, she really had her back, I felt in
- 49:20Speaker 4: that moment. So it was really quite you know, a
- 49:24Speaker 4: smack in her face that she had that reaction to her.
- 49:27Speaker 4: And then Taylor in her confessional when she learns that
- 49:35Speaker 4: she has she moved to Hawaii based on like just
- 49:38Speaker 4: wanting to get away for the sake of getting away anyway,
- 49:41Speaker 4: but really made it seem like she was trying to
- 49:43Speaker 4: get away from the scandal that Taylor I'm sorry, Yeah,
- 49:45Speaker 4: that Taylor had created. Taylor's like figuring that out, and
- 49:49Speaker 4: she's like, well, I'm the scapegoat. You know, she's using
- 49:51Speaker 4: me as a scapegoat to probably the problems in her
- 49:54Speaker 4: marriage that were there already. So then we find out,
- 49:58Speaker 4: you know, obviously Taylor's that she's been pregnant for four
- 50:01Speaker 4: weeks and it's either a miscarriage or a topic. And
- 50:05Speaker 4: the Dakota was excited. They were excited. And then somebody says,
- 50:09Speaker 4: either Demi or Jesse, not sure which one. Uh says,
- 50:12Speaker 4: are you going to be more careful next time? And
- 50:14Speaker 4: she says, I don't know.
- 50:19Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 50:23Speaker 3: Can I tell you something? You will think. It's so funny.
- 50:26Speaker 3: When I was watching that.
- 50:28Speaker 2: I watched I watched the intro twice because when she
- 50:32Speaker 2: said to her mom, she thinks she's pregnant, I was like, oh,
- 50:35Speaker 2: I think she's pregnant in the intro in that blue coat.
- 50:38Speaker 3: Yes, I have solved everything. But then at the end,
- 50:42Speaker 3: at the end they're doing the thing and she is
- 50:44Speaker 3: pregnant a second time.
- 50:45Speaker 2: Because then when she was like, I've miscarried, I was like,
- 50:48Speaker 2: but the opener like I.
- 50:50Speaker 3: Was, I was literally freaking out. I was like, I know,
- 50:53Speaker 3: I was right. Then she's like then the credits are like,
- 50:57Speaker 3: she is pregnant. I'm like, and I was right.
- 51:00Speaker 4: When they like measure her belly.
- 51:01Speaker 3: I really wept out a different path at that.
- 51:04Speaker 4: Similar to you, a little different for me, and that
- 51:07Speaker 4: I just saw them all lined up and I go,
- 51:09Speaker 4: that one's pregnant. I don't know who that is because
- 51:12Speaker 4: they all look like and I didn't bother. I'm like,
- 51:14Speaker 4: that one's pregnant. So I didn't think about it. So
- 51:16Speaker 4: it was kind of a surprise to me. So anyway,
- 51:21Speaker 4: so then uh oh yeah Whitney's confessional, she literally says,
- 51:28Speaker 4: I can't believe Taylor talked about something traumatic going on
- 51:31Speaker 4: in her life right after I shared something traumatic in mine.
- 51:36Speaker 5: That's how conversations work. I mean, you don't have to
- 51:42Speaker 5: make it about you. But it was clear, like what
- 51:46Speaker 5: Jamie said, like she wanted the heat offer for a second.
- 51:51Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yay.
- 51:54Speaker 4: Okay, let's talk about the Taylor and Dakota dinner date
- 51:57Speaker 4: and how this guy is, uh what a turn off?
- 52:01Speaker 4: I mean this guy woo Mama.
- 52:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:04Speaker 1: I wasn't a fan.
- 52:06Speaker 5: However, I did appreciate his dedication to sobriety and kind
- 52:11Speaker 5: of just laying it down, I thought, Okay.
- 52:15Speaker 4: Little too late. He knows she drinks, she knows, he
- 52:17Speaker 4: knows she parties, he slid into her DMS and now
- 52:20Speaker 4: is giving her an ultimatum. He is, absolutely, it's absolutely unfair,
- 52:26Speaker 4: but that's.
- 52:26Speaker 1: Part of the course of Mormonism, you know, like I
- 52:29Speaker 1: feel like.
- 52:30Speaker 4: That's what is the not drinking, you mean, the guy
- 52:34Speaker 4: coming in and telling you how right? Right right? Yeah, okay,
- 52:39Speaker 4: I stand back, I stand down. I mean, yes, catch.
- 52:42Speaker 3: A vibe that she slid into his DMS by the way.
- 52:46Speaker 4: She DMed him back. She said, I kind.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Of thought that she was the initial dm R in
- 52:54Speaker 2: one little part of that dinner, but maybe I missed it,
- 52:58Speaker 2: but it almost seemed like he said, you slid into
- 53:02Speaker 2: my da.
- 53:03Speaker 4: Yeah he did say that, but he and from from
- 53:06Speaker 4: how I took it, it was like, she goes, well, yeah,
- 53:09Speaker 4: you slid into my DMS. He's like, all right, first
- 53:11Speaker 4: time I ever slid into anyone's d MS. And he's like,
- 53:16Speaker 4: and then you slid into mine. And then she repeated
- 53:19Speaker 4: what she said, which was you look like Jake Jillenhall.
- 53:23Speaker 3: No, no, I don't know.
- 53:25Speaker 1: When we have a fresh vision of Jake Jill.
- 53:28Speaker 2: That's also very true by the way, presumed innocent, excellent,
- 53:33Speaker 2: but also I kind of liked his Roadhouse.
- 53:35Speaker 3: It was tongue in cheek. It was very fun.
- 53:38Speaker 1: I haven't watched it yet.
- 53:39Speaker 3: I highly recommend Taylor. I got a.
- 53:43Speaker 1: Swift I can't. I mean I have. I feel bad
- 53:46Speaker 1: enough Genie, and I'm not even a swiftie.
- 53:50Speaker 2: He's got her scarf in his drawer. You know what
- 53:54Speaker 2: that means virginity.
- 54:01Speaker 4: So yeah, he's like, well, with my past, I can't
- 54:05Speaker 4: be with you if you want to party. And yeah,
- 54:08Speaker 4: so for me, it's like life or death. And you know,
- 54:12Speaker 4: I just slide into DMS and see what sticks and.
- 54:16Speaker 1: Uh you did?
- 54:17Speaker 4: So hell you party? Time to stop, baby girl. It's
- 54:21Speaker 4: like there were parts.
- 54:22Speaker 5: Of that that felt adult, and then he felt like
- 54:24Speaker 5: a fifteen year old.
- 54:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:27Speaker 4: He looks crazy to me. He looks unhinged and he
- 54:30Speaker 4: looks crazy and I don't trust him, and I gotta
- 54:32Speaker 4: tell you her mom is right relax.
- 54:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:36Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, as we get a taste at the end
- 54:39Speaker 2: of the episode, let's do it.
- 54:41Speaker 3: Oh shall we go right there?
- 54:43Speaker 4: That's next?
- 54:44Speaker 3: That's it.
- 54:45Speaker 4: Yeah, So nine one one call Neighbor.
- 54:48Speaker 3: That was unreal. Reminds me of every crime doc I've
- 54:54Speaker 3: ever seen.
- 54:55Speaker 2: And I did also want to say I feel as
- 54:58Speaker 2: though that body cam foot was sold directly to Hulu
- 55:02Speaker 2: or sanctioned by Hulu. That body camp footage seemed like
- 55:07Speaker 2: a reality show footage that they're claiming is bodycam't footage?
- 55:11Speaker 4: Oh oh interesting?
- 55:13Speaker 2: For like, this is the officer's bodycamp footage and it's
- 55:17Speaker 2: the clearest shot of her as if it's a Hulu
- 55:20Speaker 2: camp footage.
- 55:21Speaker 4: Okay, say that, Yeah, I go ahead.
- 55:24Speaker 5: County has a shit ton of money and outfits their
- 55:27Speaker 5: police in like insane gear that they never have to use,
- 55:32Speaker 5: and I bet that's part of it.
- 55:33Speaker 4: I will say I am a fan of bodycam footage
- 55:37Speaker 4: and I have seen a good share of it, and
- 55:40Speaker 4: that is pretty on course for bodycam footage. The technology
- 55:45Speaker 4: is so good now, so I mean, you know, look,
- 55:50Speaker 4: maybe maybe the Hulu people grab that cop and strapped
- 55:54Speaker 4: on you know, a twenty K for twenty whatever. You know.
- 55:59Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, I'm just saying it.
- 56:02Speaker 2: It was so crisp, it was amazing, so reality show perfect.
- 56:06Speaker 2: That yeah, was at the very least Hulu was elated
- 56:10Speaker 2: elated to have that.
- 56:11Speaker 4: You know, maybe they tweaked it and maybe they put
- 56:13Speaker 4: some CGI in. Wait, can we talk about the neighbor though,
- 56:17Speaker 4: because the neighbor.
- 56:19Speaker 1: Call was so good.
- 56:21Speaker 4: She's like, I'm hearing, you know, I'm hearing the garage
- 56:23Speaker 4: and door opening and closing, and and I'm hear him yelling,
- 56:27Speaker 4: I'm hearing shut up, and I'm and I mean, I
- 56:30Speaker 4: don't think the kids are there, because you know, she's divorced,
- 56:33Speaker 4: and I think they have coustody. I'm just that. But also,
- 56:39Speaker 4: you know, okay, man, thank you very much, Okay, bye bye.
- 56:42Speaker 4: Like I think she wanted to talk shit more, and
- 56:44Speaker 4: I was like you for a minute, you know, we all.
- 56:47Speaker 2: Need a nosy neighbor like that, though I appreciate a
- 56:50Speaker 2: nosy neighbor. Please call the police if you hear some
- 56:52Speaker 2: weird shit over here, because I live alone, and so
- 56:56Speaker 2: if you hear some crazy shit over here calling on
- 56:59Speaker 2: I like that.
- 56:59Speaker 3: They both are like bite was like, and bye bye
- 57:03Speaker 3: to you.
- 57:06Speaker 4: And to make God to be with you today, with you.
- 57:09Speaker 2: See you at church, see at church, Shirley, thank you
- 57:11Speaker 2: don for calling Mormon super irish.
- 57:15Speaker 4: I know I'm making him irish. Hey bye bye. I'm
- 57:18Speaker 4: gonna I'm not going to go through the words of
- 57:21Speaker 4: what they said. Okay, So the cop says, what's going on?
- 57:27Speaker 4: She says nothing. She says she's hammered, and then she's like,
- 57:35Speaker 4: so is he. No, I'm not. And then he throw
- 57:39Speaker 4: me in the garage because you were attacking the grandpa.
- 57:43Speaker 4: To me, she was launching metal chairs and me, I
- 57:48Speaker 4: was scared for my life. I'm like, you fucking piece
- 57:51Speaker 4: of shit. Why is she getting arrested and you're not.
- 57:55Speaker 4: That's what I want to know. Is he gonna get arrested.
- 57:58Speaker 4: They better arrest him.
- 57:59Speaker 1: I don't know if he needs to get arrested.
- 58:03Speaker 5: I think she was wasted and maybe also on some
- 58:08Speaker 5: medications from the pain from her current bube miscarriage.
- 58:13Speaker 4: Oh. I thought you're gonna say, no boob job.
- 58:16Speaker 1: Okay, but I think she was pretty inebriated.
- 58:20Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
- 58:21Speaker 5: And I and and I think that maybe she was
- 58:25Speaker 5: the one attacking.
- 58:26Speaker 4: Well, I think she's sober. Uh, well, I believe her,
- 58:32Speaker 4: I think, yeah. And he's like, no, I'm not. I mean,
- 58:36Speaker 4: it says she's out there, and she says, I peed
- 58:38Speaker 4: my pants. I was so scared of him in the garage.
- 58:41Speaker 4: He threw me into the wooden thing, so I reacted.
- 58:46Speaker 4: He came in and I threw everything else. Okay, I
- 58:49Speaker 4: totally believe that she did launch these metal chairs at him.
- 58:51Speaker 4: I absolutely believe that she did that, But he also
- 58:56Speaker 4: threw her. She's saying that he threw her into the
- 58:59Speaker 4: wooden And if he did any of that or just
- 59:02Speaker 4: did that in and of itself, he should also be arrested.
- 59:05Speaker 4: And I also have reason to believe, why not believe
- 59:10Speaker 4: that he might be drunk. I mean it's possible, Yeah.
- 59:14Speaker 1: It's possible.
- 59:15Speaker 5: I mean, like, I certainly don't want to like not
- 59:19Speaker 5: advocate for her. I just got from what we saw.
- 59:23Speaker 5: I mean I would think that. And again like maybe yeah,
- 59:28Speaker 5: maybe they were just like trying to get her out
- 59:31Speaker 5: of the situation.
- 59:32Speaker 4: I don't know, but I yeah, when they separate, which
- 59:35Speaker 4: is smart to do, you know, you got to separate
- 59:38Speaker 4: the couple.
- 59:38Speaker 3: But I just don't tell you what I thought.
- 59:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they both were in the wrong and
- 59:44Speaker 2: they were fighting and they boll should have been arrested.
- 59:47Speaker 3: And I definitely think she was wasted and threw the chairs.
- 59:50Speaker 4: At him, Yeah for sure.
- 59:51Speaker 2: And I think she probably pissed herself because she was
- 59:54Speaker 2: also shit wasted.
- 59:55Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, yah yahs and having like this
- 59:59Speaker 5: trem and going on in her body like, there's a
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: lot going.
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: On going on, but I don't trust him. I'm with you,
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: and I don't trust him either. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: So so in that regard it to me, it seems
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: like it was odd that they were arresting her.
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: But also to.
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: Your point, Emily, there there was maybe things we didn't hear.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: Cops aren't just arresting people willy nilly, so you know,
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: there could have been a very good reason when she
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: said he threw me in the garage. Yeah, right, correspond
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: with the nine one one call from Donna the neighbor
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: to Carrol the nine one So yeah, whatever the case,
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: I was like, these two are probably not a great match.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: So the precursor or the ending to show all the
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: things that are going to happen, I was like, oh boy,
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: they're staying together.
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: Well, you know, it kind of reminded me of Gabby
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: Petito and the Brian laundry case. Okay, so this reminded
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: me of not even I don't know if it's similar,
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: but in the sense that so that's bodycam footage where
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: you can go and look at that, and that's crisp,
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: as clear as day, unbelievable. Right when they were pulled over.
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: They had gotten a complaint that they had been arguing
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: at that restaurant they got pulled over. They separate them,
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: they talk to them individually. The guy denies anything that
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: he's done, and she's crying and she's saying, I mean,
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: she's saying, yes, I was upset and I was yelling
- 1:01:34Speaker 4: because we were arguing, and she's being kind of honest
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: about it. They decide to split them up, and which
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: is fine. Neither one of them kind of rat each
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: other out, but they are split up, and guess who's
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: to blame him? And the guys and the cops were like, oh,
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: we got a woman who's just overreacting. She's you know,
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: because they were talking to Brian like, hey man, I
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: got one of these at home. It was so disgusting.
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: So but difference being and this is a huge difference
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: that that Gabby Patito was not drunk and belligerent and
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: out of her mind, you know, like obviously Taylor was
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: extremely drunk. But I guess that's my point is like,
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: this is what is triggering for me because you see
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: what happened in that situation. You see how women aren't
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: believed and when so if he isn't arrested based on
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: her accusation of being thrown into the garage and thrown
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: against the wooden thing, whether she tripped or fell against
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: or whatever. You can worry about those details later. If
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: he isn't arrested for DV, then I think it's an
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: unfair situation.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that I agree, Ivy. But Tito footage
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: is wild too, because she's like, in her face she's
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: saying things are bad, but her voice.
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: Is saying everything's fine. It's so sad, so upsetting.
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: Yeah, these castine were training I think maybe to look
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: for these extra clues.
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: We know we are poised for an exciting season. We're
- 1:03:05Speaker 4: gonna go episode by episode because you know, we need
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: to like milk it for what it's worth. So Jamie
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- 1:03:42Speaker 4: of that next week, three and four. Real Housewives coming
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