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The Bolt Report | 28 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: He's the bold reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight Anthony Albanezi.
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  Speaker 3: How many freebies has this freeloader asked Conscious to give him?
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  Speaker 3: And is this money dirty? Plus more bad news for
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  Speaker 3: Albanese's government the Queensland election, of course, and how the
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  Speaker 3: Greens also got smashed again is this poisonous party on
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  Speaker 3: the way out? Also tonight the government bans American conservative
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  Speaker 3: speaker candass Owe's from giving lectures here. And Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 3: massive rally at New York's Madison Square Garden a week
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  Speaker 3: before the election. The Democrats got mad and claimed it's
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  Speaker 3: like the Nazi rally there in nineteen thirty nine.
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  Speaker 4: There's a direct parallel to a big rally that happened
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  Speaker 4: in the mid nineteen thirties.
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  Speaker 3: I'll show you what a roll old idiot that man is.
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  Speaker 3: So much more, including Jeffrey Archer. But first, there's one
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  Speaker 3: thing about the Lydia Thorpe scandal that still doesn't come out.
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  Speaker 3: What her yelling abuse? A King Charles last week says
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  Speaker 3: about this whole welcome to country fast and also tell
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  Speaker 3: you something about Thorpe herself that will make you wonder
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  Speaker 3: if you're being conned. Now. This welcomes the country and
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  Speaker 3: acknowledgments of country. I am sure most Australians are so
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  Speaker 3: over this racist stuff, so over something that's increasingly looking idiotic.
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  Speaker 3: Many Australians would have been shocked, for instance, to read
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  Speaker 3: on the weekend that one judge in New South Wales
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  Speaker 3: even as a teenage thief to perform a welcome to
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  Speaker 3: country in a court before she sentenced them. This judge
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  Speaker 3: actually gave this thief that respect although it being convicted
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  Speaker 3: of breaking and entering and rubbing two elderly women eighty
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  Speaker 3: eight ninety two years old, even sexually touching one of them,
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  Speaker 3: And this guy gets the welcome the judge to his land,
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  Speaker 3: which is.
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  Speaker 2: A face anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I mean if it said oh to the judge, I
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  Speaker 3: no you're not welcome, No you're not what then would
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  Speaker 3: she have turned around and gone back to Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all.
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  Speaker 3: It's meaningless and divisive. Why did this guy have any
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  Speaker 3: more right to this country than this judge who was
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  Speaker 3: born here herself in Tamworth about forty years before this
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  Speaker 3: thief even came into this world. Now, like I say, Mini,
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  Speaker 3: Australians are totally over this. Last Thursday, a finn airplane
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  Speaker 3: operated by quantas flew into Sydney from Bangkok and did
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  Speaker 3: that whole You know, we pay our respects to elders,
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  Speaker 3: past president emerging and all that kind of thing. But
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  Speaker 3: this time a viewer was on that flight says maybe
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  Speaker 3: twenty of the passengers started booing and calling out, turn
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  Speaker 3: it off, this is bull I was born here too,
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  Speaker 3: and so on. Now, if you think that is rude
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  Speaker 3: treating in that serenub so little respect, how about Thorpe
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  Speaker 3: last week which he shouted at King charles apartment house.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, the big issue there is that Thorpe actually
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  Speaker 3: broke the oath that all members of Parliament must swear
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  Speaker 3: before taking the seats, an oath of allegiance to the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: Now she says, yes, she swore allegiance. Now it is
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  Speaker 3: not my king. Well, really, the President of the Senate
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  Speaker 3: has to clear this up. She's going to ask Thorpe
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  Speaker 3: to retake her oath who swear loyalty to the king,
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  Speaker 3: just to see if she can. And if Thorpe can't
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  Speaker 3: can't do what the constitution says she must, that she
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  Speaker 3: must be out. That to me is the big issue,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the Senate President should get off her
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  Speaker 3: backside and do something about this. But overlooked in all
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  Speaker 3: this is that Thorpe abused the king just after he
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  Speaker 3: had been given a welcome to country by Violet Sheridan
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  Speaker 3: and local elder.
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  Speaker 5: Let me also say how deeply I appreciated this morning's
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  Speaker 5: moving welcome to country ceremony, which offers me the opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to pay my respects to the traditional owners of the
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  Speaker 5: lands on which we meet, the Nona wild people.
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  Speaker 3: But what is the point of a welcome to country
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  Speaker 3: When Charles then gets a verbal smack in the face
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  Speaker 3: from some other Aboriginal activists claiming to speak for Aborigines.
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  Speaker 3: What's a welcome worth now? Violett Sheridan did say that
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  Speaker 3: thought was disrespectful, did not speak for the local Aborigines,
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  Speaker 3: or in fact, for many other Aborigines anywhere, And looking
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  Speaker 3: into that I found something very strange Lydia, Thoughpe claims
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  Speaker 3: to speak for Aborigines, claims to be a member of
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  Speaker 3: Aboriginal tribes, demand sovereignty for what she calls her people
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  Speaker 3: Aborigines like her.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Her father is white and her mother, Edna's father was
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  Speaker 3: also white. Her mother's mother, Alma, well her father James
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  Speaker 3: was white as well, and whether her mother also had
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  Speaker 3: a white father, that I don't know. But if you
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  Speaker 3: add up what I do know, then of the eight
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  Speaker 3: great grandparents of Aboriginal Senator Lydia Thorpe, of the eight
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  Speaker 3: of them, just one as Aboriginal ancestry. The other seven
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  Speaker 3: are white British Irish heritage whatever. So at most just
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  Speaker 3: twelve point five percent of Thorpe's ancestors are Aboriginal, which
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  Speaker 3: for me raises the question when she talks about her people,
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't she mean white people? And when she talks about
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  Speaker 3: the colonizers, isn't she one of them?
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  Speaker 2: And when it comes to.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to country ceremonies, isn't she the one who should
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  Speaker 3: be welcome? Lydia Thorpe is a walking, screaming example of
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  Speaker 3: our race politics in this country. To joke and they're
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  Speaker 3: welcome to country ceremonies, they're not just divisive but an
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  Speaker 3: insult to our intelligence. But poor Anthony Albinezi. Another week,
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  Speaker 3: Yet another political disaster today, in fact two of them now.
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  Speaker 3: The first, of course, is the Queensland state election. Labor
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  Speaker 3: got smashed with David Christo fully the new Premier of
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  Speaker 3: a new Liberal National Party government. Now, forget the Labour
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  Speaker 3: spin that the win was much or very tight, very tight,
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  Speaker 3: barely a win at all. The coalition has in these
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  Speaker 3: twenty seats more than Labor, and an absolute majority of
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  Speaker 3: at least five seats, perhaps even more as the counting
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  Speaker 3: goes on in the undecided ones. Now, obviously that spells
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  Speaker 3: bad news for Labor federally. Big swing against the Labour
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  Speaker 3: seven and a half percent just the few months before
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  Speaker 3: the federal poll. A federal treasure Jim Charmers today wasn't
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  Speaker 3: denying that. In fact, we're seeming like he was thinking, well,
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  Speaker 3: the day is coming when we've got to face facts
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  Speaker 3: like these, and maybe he should replace Albinizi as the
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  Speaker 3: Labor leader.
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  Speaker 6: There are lessons for us, but there are also differences.
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  Speaker 6: There's was the government that had been there for almost
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  Speaker 6: a decade. Ours is a government in its first term,
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  Speaker 6: and so there are o various differences. But I don't
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  Speaker 6: want to pretend that there aren't lessons for us as well.
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  Speaker 6: Of course there are. There are always lessons.
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  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you couldn't see Anthony Alberanizi anywhere today, is just
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  Speaker 3: a photo up somewhere and no press accure, but more
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  Speaker 3: perhaps because because even more dangerous for Alberan EASi is
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  Speaker 3: that he is accused in a new book by Joe
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  Speaker 3: ass In, the former of Financial Review Coldness, of actually
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  Speaker 3: himself contacting the then head of Quantus, Alan Joyce, to
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  Speaker 3: get free upgrades to fights, including personal flights to Europe
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  Speaker 3: for him and his son and to Honolulu. How about that,
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  Speaker 3: in fact, he got twenty two upgrades from Quantus in
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  Speaker 3: just over a decade.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Albaneze has declared these upgrades and other politicians get upgrades.
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  Speaker 3: To Opposition leader Peter Dunton Ha's had fifteen upgrades himself,
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  Speaker 3: but over a much longer time twenty three years. So
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  Speaker 3: Albanze in fact got many more upgrades in half the time.
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  Speaker 3: But there is one other very big difference between the two,
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  Speaker 3: in fact, between Albanese and almost well, in fact, anyone else.
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  Speaker 3: Albanzey actually asked his mate Alan Joyce headed Quantus, for
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  Speaker 3: the upgrades that shambers, and he did it when he
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  Speaker 3: was Transport Minister or shadow Transport Minister or Opposition leader.
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  Speaker 3: I mean transport is actually control of got things to
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  Speaker 3: say that affect their quantits outed he goes, hello, allan
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  Speaker 3: Natalbo here, how about an upgrade?
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  Speaker 1: I'm ste arrangements.
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  Speaker 7: When you can pick the phone up to the CEO
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  Speaker 7: and ask is the Transport Minister for an upgrade to
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  Speaker 7: your arrangements?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's happened here.
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  Speaker 7: If you go to the airport and either for load
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  Speaker 7: factors or you for decision the airline makes otherwise for
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  Speaker 7: them to upgrade you, and you declare that well, that's
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  Speaker 7: perfectly appropriate, and that's as the rules apply equally to everyone.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're the Transport Minister and you're picking.
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  Speaker 7: Up the phone to one of the most important stakeholders
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  Speaker 7: in your portfolio asking for a free upgrade, then again,
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  Speaker 7: I think the Prime Minister would be able to answer
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  Speaker 7: those questions more effectively than anyone else, because I'm not
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  Speaker 7: aware of anyone else having done it.
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  Speaker 3: Join him is the political panel Michael Kroger from the
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  Speaker 3: Victorian Liberal President Steve Conroy, former Labor Senator and Cabinet
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  Speaker 3: minister Michael Krager. Isn't this a terrible look for Albin Ez?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, getting freebies for even private flights overseas, freebe
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  Speaker 3: he just himself asked for. Wasn't like turn up to
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  Speaker 3: the airport. Hey, what a surprise, and all this coming
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  Speaker 3: just after he bought himself a four point three million
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  Speaker 3: dollar beach house.
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  Speaker 8: So, Andrew, I think there's a lot more serious than
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  Speaker 8: people think. You are the minister regulating the transport industry
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  Speaker 8: and you seek and a given a financial benefit i
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  Speaker 8: money from a company you are regulating. Now, I've always
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  Speaker 8: declared that I'm a member of a Quantiti's loyalty program.
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  Speaker 8: But as a Minister of the Crown, if I was
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  Speaker 8: the Minister for gaming as a state minister and asked
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  Speaker 8: the casino for free betting chips, or if I was
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  Speaker 8: the Minister for liquor Control and ask for free grog
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  Speaker 8: from a company I was regulating, there are hundreds and
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  Speaker 8: hundreds of these conflicts which ministers avoid on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 8: And Charmers got an upgrade when he was an opposition spokesman.
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  Speaker 8: That is nothing right. Lots of people get upgrades over
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  Speaker 8: the years, so I don't count that counts for zero.
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  Speaker 8: But when you are the minister regulating the industry, you
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  Speaker 8: are in an entirely different category to an opposition spokesman
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  Speaker 8: or even a minister not regulating that industry. But this
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  Speaker 8: guy's got a direct personal financial benefit, a cash benefit
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  Speaker 8: from a company he is regulating. Boy, I don't think
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  Speaker 8: we've seen that in Australia for a generation.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Stephen, the issue the two issues here, aren't they
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  Speaker 3: like actually asking for an upgrade, so that's a guaranteed one.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like a normal upgrade. Well, oh, we've got
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  Speaker 3: some seats in business class free, let's find out who
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  Speaker 3: would like to do a favor for who's here in
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  Speaker 3: front of us.
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  Speaker 2: That's one thing.
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  Speaker 3: He's actually asking in advance for a guaranteed upgrade.
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  Speaker 2: But asking them when he is.
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  Speaker 3: The Transport Minister, for instance, and is a regulator, that
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  Speaker 3: is something very different, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: All?
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  Speaker 3: Look?
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  Speaker 9: I think if you go back and look at the
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  Speaker 9: period you're talking about when he was the Transport Minister,
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  Speaker 9: the question is is there any overt benefit that Quantus
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  Speaker 9: got out of that? And while you might be able
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  Speaker 9: to at the moment conflate the Qatar issue, which has
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  Speaker 9: only happened recently, you go back and look at the
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  Speaker 9: period when he was the Transport minister. Then find a
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  Speaker 9: decision that benefited Quantas that you want to allege was
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  Speaker 9: because of a potential upgrade. I myself accepted. I probably
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  Speaker 9: tennis tickets from Telstra. I'm guessing when I was the minister,
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  Speaker 9: maybe a game of golf in a telstraal golf day.
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  Speaker 9: But did anyone suggest that my ultimate decisions around the
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  Speaker 9: national broadband network, you know we're influenced by Telstra's largest
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  Speaker 9: towards me. The answer as know. So I think you
• 13:03
  Speaker 9: can easily dispel a lot of the sort of mythologies,
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  Speaker 9: and Michael picked a very bad and really level But but.
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  Speaker 2: But let's be clear.
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  Speaker 9: Accepting hospitality, excepting hospitality to develop them from Gina reidheart
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  Speaker 9: to get on her plane when she influences directly ministers
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  Speaker 9: in a coalition government on mining policy.
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  Speaker 2: Is equally as egregious.
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  Speaker 9: And the numbers of senior figures, a number of senior
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  Speaker 9: figures need to come on your show and have Michael
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  Speaker 9: explained to them their corrupts accepting Can I just tell
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  Speaker 9: you that those the equivalent I'm talking examples.
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  Speaker 3: The worst excuse Stephen for bad behavior is to say
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  Speaker 3: other people do it too. That is the worst excuse.
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  Speaker 2: I've never bought.
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  Speaker 3: It haven't brought from anyone Prime Minister. I certainly don't
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  Speaker 3: buy it from a prime minister. He actually begged condas.
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  Speaker 9: But privacy, Ryan, that is just something else determined.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I know something about that business.
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  Speaker 9: And you can't show him. You can't show a single
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  Speaker 9: example of Albow. That is not My point. Is the
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  Speaker 9: relation the last labor It is the relationship show.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what if a planning minister went to it, Stephen, please,
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  Speaker 3: let's have a conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Don't try and talk over me.
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  Speaker 3: If Michael, if a if a minister, a planning minister
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  Speaker 3: went to a developer and said, how about you know,
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  Speaker 3: freebie in an apartment or some repairs or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you need to establish that right then
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  Speaker 3: and there he got a quid pro quo. The developer
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  Speaker 3: got a quid pro quote. It's a long term relationship, surely.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Andrew, this is pretty black and white. What we
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  Speaker 8: know in Australian politics is you do not accept financial
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  Speaker 8: benefits to the extent that Elbow has from people you
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  Speaker 8: are regulating. Now, I'm talking about substantial benefits. If Steven's
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  Speaker 8: invited for the Telstra Golf Day, which would be a
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  Speaker 8: forty dollars round or fifty dollars round of government, particularly
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  Speaker 8: when he hasn't done the asking. He's been invited. Different story.
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  Speaker 8: But this bloke has rung up, rung up the Chief
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  Speaker 8: Executive and requested upgrades and accepted them. BlimE me, Teddy,
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  Speaker 8: I can't remember seeing that in my lifetime in Australia.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe there have been ministers over the years who've accepted benefits,
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  Speaker 8: financial benefits in New South Wales and maybe Queensland that
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  Speaker 8: have gone to stay with the Queen for a while.
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  Speaker 8: But boy, a prime minister doing this. Goodness, goodness me.
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  Speaker 8: I mean this bloke, I think he's been in Parliament
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  Speaker 8: too long. He's lost the plot. He's rolling in freebies
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  Speaker 8: and travel allowances and government jets and staffing and secure
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  Speaker 8: and everything's paid for. I mean, this bloke's lost the plot.
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  Speaker 8: He's rolling around in the money pit, paid for by
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  Speaker 8: the public. He's been in Parlam for twenty eight years
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  Speaker 8: and he's lost touch. He's lost any touch with the
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  Speaker 8: ordinary Australian. Quite frankly, mate.
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  Speaker 3: Look amount of time, but just very quickly, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to picture from someone the other guests the Queensland election.
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  Speaker 3: What message does this send to the Avenuezi government.
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  Speaker 9: Stephen Well, look four years ago, Labor one seat in
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  Speaker 9: Queensland in the state election, and then in the next
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  Speaker 9: federal action they lost seats. So there's plenty of reasons
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  Speaker 9: why Labor lost this election.
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  Speaker 1: Does it make it harder.
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  Speaker 9: For Labor to win seats which we need to stay
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  Speaker 9: out of minority government? Absolutely? But is there a direct
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  Speaker 9: correlation between how Queensland has voted in the state election
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  Speaker 9: and how the our vote in the federal No, because
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  Speaker 9: four years ago that was a proven fact. There was
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  Speaker 9: no correlation.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Kroger, Stephen Conroy, Thank you very much to you both.
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  Speaker 3: After the break our dangerous world. Israel has just bombed Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Is the next step all that war plus the noted
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  Speaker 3: nation's boss. What a disgrace He goes to a meeting
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  Speaker 3: to bow to Russia's dictator and hug the dictator's mate,
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  Speaker 3: the dictator of Belarus. Israel on Saturday finally punished Iran
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  Speaker 3: for firing one hundred and eighty one missiles edit. Four
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago. Israel sent warplanes the Bombaranian missile sites and
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  Speaker 3: also anti aircraft and missile defenses, including in the capital
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  Speaker 3: of Tehran, joining me to the country's top foreign affairs
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  Speaker 3: writ Greg Sheridan of The Australian. Greg, great to see you,
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  Speaker 3: but where is this war going?
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  Speaker 10: Well, Andrew, Israel certainly acted with extraordinary restraint. Now maybe
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  Speaker 10: that restraint was imposed on them by the Americans. On
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  Speaker 10: the other hand, I think Israel has its own reasons
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  Speaker 10: for acting methodically in the.
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  Speaker 2: Way it has.
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  Speaker 10: It has destroyed a good number of Iranian air defenses,
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  Speaker 10: which means if it needs to take another action against
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  Speaker 10: Iran anytime soon, there's less chance of an Israeli plane
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  Speaker 10: being shot down. It's also destroyed Iranian missile and weapons
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  Speaker 10: manufacturing facilities. That's very important. The other thing is Israel
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  Speaker 10: still is cleaning up in Gaza, and it's still fighting
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  Speaker 10: in Lebanon. And even Israel even with American logistics support,
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  Speaker 10: you know, there's a limit to how much its armed
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  Speaker 10: forces can do all at once.
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  Speaker 2: Now, whether Iran.
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  Speaker 10: Forces Israel to take another strike, I don't know. On
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  Speaker 10: the other hand, you can say the Americans and the
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  Speaker 10: Israelis have missed an opportunity because Iran as getting very
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  Speaker 10: close to a nuclear weapon, and if the Americans had
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  Speaker 10: helped the Israelis, they would together have been able to
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  Speaker 10: take out those nuclear facilities. Very substantially. The Israelis, I
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  Speaker 10: don't think can do that on their own. But this
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  Speaker 10: remains a very open conflict, could go in all kinds
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  Speaker 10: of different ways.
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  Speaker 3: I can't help but agree with you. I'm afraid those
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  Speaker 3: nuclear that nuclear project of ir own needs to be
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  Speaker 3: dealt with. And this was a golden opportunity if America
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  Speaker 3: had just come to the party. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, who likes,
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  Speaker 3: who looks likely to win next week's presidential elections, just
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  Speaker 3: how the monster rally in New York, seventy five thousand
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  Speaker 3: people supposedly trying to get in to Madison Square guns.
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  Speaker 3: He told the crowd he wants America out of fighting wars.
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  Speaker 11: Here is many many people with no legs and no arms,
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  Speaker 11: or because of incompetent people. But we don't want your
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  Speaker 11: son and daughters to get a little draft notice and
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  Speaker 11: you have to explain to them what it means.
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  Speaker 2: We're tired of fighting.
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  Speaker 11: I'm the only president in the last eighty four years
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  Speaker 11: that didn't.
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  Speaker 12: Start a war.
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  Speaker 3: Indicat he wants to cut off support to Ukraine, which
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  Speaker 3: will be a disaster. But this whole you know, no
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  Speaker 3: wars anywhere thing sounds nice. How's it going to actually
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  Speaker 3: work out how's it going to fit the world if
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  Speaker 3: he wins.
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  Speaker 10: Well, it's genuinely very unclear again, Andrew, I mean, it
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: does point up, just incidentally, the utter folly of the
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: Albanese government and the ten years of coalition government beyond that,
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: in producing no effective Australian defense, because the Americans have
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: shown they'll help an ally who will fight for themselves
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: with supplies and everything, but they are getting reluctant to
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: do the fighting themselves anymore. There's a measure of justice
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: in what Trump says that Biden's weakness has encouraged the
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: aggression of the Taliban and of the Russians and of
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: the Iranians. They have all deterred Biden. Biden has not
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: deterred any of them. There's some truth in what Trump says.
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: But if Trump himself convinces all American adversaries that there's
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: no circumstances under which he will fight, he will lose
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: the leverage he had in his first term. I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: people were scared of Trump. America's enemies were scared of Trump.
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: So were America's allies half the time. But that was
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: part of the way he managed the global security environment
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: wasn't very pretty, but it was reasonably effective. If he
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: gives a sort of iron plaid promise, we're never going
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: to fight again, I don't like that. But on the
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: other hand, you can't take anything Trump says to the bank.
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: So what he actually does when he gets into office,
• 21:50
  Speaker 10: I don't think will be bound by what he said
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: at this Madison Square Garden rally.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: You've made such a good point about that. It was
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: the fear of what Trump might do, and if he
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: starts taking war off the table, that fear dissipates with
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: people that really need to be scared.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And that is particularly true.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: When you meanwhile got this new alliance of tyrannies.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Greg.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: You've written about this, Russia, China, Iran, North Korea all
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: helping out each other with their wars. Russia, Iran, China
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: last week also holding this so called Brick Summit to
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: encourage other countries to help create a new world order
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: where their.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Boss and not America.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: What shocked many certainly shocked me, Greg, was the United
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Nations Secretary General, the socialist Antonio gu terrorists. He actually
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: went there. He shook the hand of Russia's Vladimir Putin
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: a war criminal and even bowed to him and then
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: hugged the dictator of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, who's been Russia's
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: ally in the invasion of Ukraine. Greg, the United Nations
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: has utterly shamed itself, hasn't it?
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, your dead right, Andrew. A couple of real quick points.
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: One is this China Russia around North Korea alliance. You know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: defat and the foreign policy professionals and so on were
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: always at pains to say they cooperate a bit, they're
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: not real allies. Well, North Korea has now sent thousands
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: of troops to Russia, presumably to be used in Ukraine.
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: They all supply each other weapons, they all help each
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: other get around all Western imposed sanctions, and they protect
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: each other at the United Nations. So I don't know
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: how much more they could do. That is an alliance,
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: and that is a terrifying development, and again just shows
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: up the madness of our not having any defense capability.
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: Your point about the UN is absolutely right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Good terrorists. I'll tell you what. He is the best.
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: Argument possible that we should have supported Kevin Rudd as
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: Secretary General of the United Nations. This guy is an
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: absolute shocker. He didn't visit Israel to express solidarity after
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: that terror attack, and he hasn't had a kind word
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: to say about Israel in any circumstances whatsoever. But there
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: is Vladimir Putin justly under indictment in the International Criminal
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: Court as a war criminal, which is what he is,
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: and there is Good Terrors going to pay homage to
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: him because he wants to show how even handed he
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: is between the United States and Russia.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I would rather have.
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: A you know, a straightforward left wing, you know, third
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: world guy than Good Terrors. I think he may well
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: be the worst Secretary General of the United Nations, you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: for many, many decades, and he's just robbed the United
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: Nations of all credibility. And again, the Albanese government puts
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: so much of its foreign policy faith in the United Nations.
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: You know, we get to be the deputy chair of
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: the Pots and Pans Committee or something in exchange for
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: selling out Israel, and they think that's a good deal.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Well, the analogy would be if there'd been the other
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: nations at the time, are you and Secretary General has
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to be even handed between Hitler and Churchill and goes
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: through a Churchill access conference and bows to Hitler and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: hugs Mussolini. I mean, seriously, this is so evil. Greg Sheridan,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: thank you so much, indeed for your time. After the break,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris goes mad. Her campaign says that Donald Trump's
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: rally in New York, that massive one I mentioned, is
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: just a new Nazi rally. Jeffrey Archer on that after this,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris and her Democrats in America doing something incredibly stupid,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: incredibly damaging to their country with the help of the
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: media left. They are acting, in fact like traitors. Let's
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: have a toeurs Harris of course, to the Vice President.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: She's now trailing Donald Trump in most polls for next
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: week's elections, and it's so desperate that she is now
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: painting Trump as a Nazi, the new Hitler, she says.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump openly admis dictators include outlf Hitler. He's unhinged
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: and unstable in a second term, is out for completely
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: unchecked power and a running mate. Tim Walls and the
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: former Democrat candidate Hillary Clinton both said Trump's big rally
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: at Madison Square Gardens today was in fact a Nazi rally,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: just like a rally at the same venue an iconic
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: sports and entertainment venue in nineteen thirty nine, deliberately made
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to be like that rally by Hitler and Myris back
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: then and jew haters and ethnic Germans.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: There's a direct parallel to a big rally that happened
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: in the mid nineteen thirties at Madison Square Garden. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: don't think that he doesn't know for one second exactly
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: what they're doing there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: Trump actually re enacting the Madison Square Garden rally in
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: nineteen thirty nine.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: This is utter madness. I mean, Trump will probably win
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the election next week. Do the Democrats really want the
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: world to think that Americans voted for a Hitler, that
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: America's turned to a fascist nation? How would that help America?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: And what damage would that do? And inside America? And
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: they're trying to whip up a civil war against Trump.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Trump is a Hitler, of course, Hitler die.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: And it's all a lie.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: The Trump support is lining up outside Madister Square, guns
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: know it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 13: I'm here to refute a lot of the insanity that
• 27:25
  Speaker 13: the left is throwing at him, such as he's a
• 27:28
  Speaker 13: Nazi and my parents are Holocaust survivors, And I can
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: assure you that he is no Nazi. This man is
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: not always guy.
• 27:37
  Speaker 14: This man, he's a people's people meant my enthusiasm for
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: his campaign. I feel that although I'm a hardcore libertarian,
• 27:46
  Speaker 14: I'm suspicious of government all the time, but I really
• 27:50
  Speaker 14: feel that he is trying to make things better for
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: the everyday American and for business, every for everyone.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: It's a Nazi rally with Drew and Latinos and black
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: sel supporting Trump. What kind of Nazi rally would have
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Jews celebrating outside and speakers inside pledging total support for Israel.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Unlike some Democrats, I'm on.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: The side of Israel.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: You're on the side of Israel.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's on the side of Israel.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Now, it is true that the very first of the
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: thirty speakers of Trump's rally today was an idiot, so
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: called insult comedian who did tell racist jokes. It was
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: appalling stuff and so stupid. But you know, the funny
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: thing is that the Trump supporters at this supposedly Nazi
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: rally didn't like it at all. He bombed and he
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: knew it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 15: There's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle
• 28:48
  Speaker 15: of the ocean right now. Yeah, I think it's called
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: Puerto Rico. Okay, all right, okay, we're getting there.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: It's just is trying how to win the Latino vote.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: That comes that idiot.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: But remember the Democrats are saying, well, let's see a
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: racist joke at a Nazi Trump rally fits but one
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: clown at a Democrat rally for Harrison Walls also told
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a racist joke against Mexicans, treating them all like thieves.
• 29:21
  Speaker 16: Donald Trump said he was going to build a wall,
• 29:25
  Speaker 16: and George Lopez said, you better build it in one
• 29:28
  Speaker 16: day because if you leave that material out there overnight.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: That's all right, here's a Democrat now the latest Democrat
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: mean this one, that Trump is the new Hitler. It's
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: going to back fire back. I think we're seeing it already.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Voters have seen Trump as president for four years already,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: he wasn't dictated. Then it's a lie to say it'll
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: be Hitler next time. And most voters will think that
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: a politician, any politician who says he will be a
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: new Hitler, is out of their mind or they're a liar.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: If there's no wonder that Harris has been saying these things,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: sinking fast in the polls, joining me again to talk
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: things political is Lord Jeffrey Archer, former British politician, former
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: deputy chairman of Britain's Conservative Party and our author of
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: forty four books, including the latest, the thriller called Eye
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: for an Eye Out. Now, Jeffrey Archer, what a pleasure
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: to see you again. We said we'd have a talk
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: about the election closer to the day that is now
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: explaining the hysteria over Donald Trump.
• 30:34
  Speaker 12: I'm fascinated to hear what you have to say, Andrew,
• 30:37
  Speaker 12: because my own view is quite simply that this goes
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: back to Biden. He really should have resigned a lot earlier,
• 30:46
  Speaker 12: and there should have been a proper competition for the
• 30:49
  Speaker 12: right person to lead the Democratic Party. The result has
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: been that the Democratic Party is now in real trouble.
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: And I have been saying all along that Trump will win,
• 31:02
  Speaker 12: but I am now absolutely convinced that the Democrats can't win.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I think this is why I think you're right that
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: she's so inadequate a candidate. She's got absolutely nothing to
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: say for herself. She has a record she can't defend
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and can't explain, and no policies that it would be
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: different from anything Barnes done. That this is all she's got.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: This is hysteria, this manufactured theory that Trump will admires
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Hitler and probably round up domestic foes and stick him
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: into camps even politicians. Do you think that's it and
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: do you think it could possibly work? Because I've got
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: to tell you, Jeffrey Archer, a lot of journalists more
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: for them, are buying it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 31:50
  Speaker 12: The amazing thing is that Trump's campaign has gone on
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: in its own style, as he always does, and although
• 31:59
  Speaker 12: many journalists have predicted he'd trip himself up, the truth
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: is he hasn't. Because when I saw the poll yesterday
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: from CNN that they were forty seven percent each, I
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: knew it was all over because missus Clinton was leading
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: Trump by three points. But in the key states, Trump
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: won them and became the president. And once those two
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: are equal, I don't see that the Democrats are still
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: in the race. And my prediction now is that he
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: might even win comfortably.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: And yes, I'm seeing as some poles like that. I mean,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: we don't want to get to a head of ourselves
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: because voluntary voting blah blah. Maybe the polls over corrected
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: from the anti tramp bars. We don't know, but I suspect.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: You are absolutely correct. Now, I have to say there
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: was something about the rally today that the critics will say,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: this was the most nazy like thing he did see.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: We were right.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I want to get your take on this. Trump that
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: was a regular video that was more than well I know,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I know, but he ran a video.
• 33:10
  Speaker 12: I saw your video. I saw your video and thought
• 33:13
  Speaker 12: it was ridiculous. He lives in New York. Madison Square
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: Garden has its own special relationship with the people of
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: New York. And that was just going over the top.
• 33:26
  Speaker 12: And if you go that far over the top, it
• 33:29
  Speaker 12: says one thing, only desperation.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I do.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: And I think that's exactly what voters will then react
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: negatively to. You can't look desperate because then people shy
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: away from you, that don't rally to you, go away
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: from you.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: But what he did do in that rally was run
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: a too many video of the criminals that Joe Biden,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Kamala Harris had led in over the last four years
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: with ten million other illegal immigrants. Here some of that
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: video being played in front of the audience and Medicine
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Square Gardens. Thirteen thousand illegal immigrants convicted of murder had
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: been released into the United States.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: C I three year old daughter Laim was murdered in
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: her own room, Kayla's murderer, who was apprehended five border
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: patrol and crossing illegally into the US.
• 34:23
  Speaker 17: Kayla's murderer had been improperly released into the United States.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Achers, in fact evil for politicians to point out
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: some of the consequences of not keeping a strong board
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: and not keeping out illegal immigrants, because there's going to
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: be a lot of people saying, oh, Donald Trump just
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: stirring up to fear of demonizing foreigners, exactly Nazi like.
• 34:44
  Speaker 12: No one has to look at the polls very seriously
• 34:46
  Speaker 12: and see that the what number one issue in the
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: United States at the moment is the economy forty nine percent.
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: The second most important issue is immigration nineteen percent. The
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: third most important is abortion thirteen percent. I talked to
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: Senator Bradley, very distinguished Democrat, over the weekend, and he
• 35:06
  Speaker 12: told me the immigration line wasn't hitting. And the other
• 35:11
  Speaker 12: big thing he pointed out was that the Democrats were
• 35:16
  Speaker 12: going for the young black vote. And he was saying,
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: which I found fascinating, that the young black vote is
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: fascinated by celebrity number one and won't want a woman
• 35:31
  Speaker 12: number two. I hadn't considered either of those, but we're
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: in strange times.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, well, Donald, they both got their celebrities. Kamla Harris
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: has got the actors and singers and the things that
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump has got. Technically here Elon Musk, who's got
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: doctor Phil today the rally, and Hull Cogan.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: So I think we know we were all that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 16: No, no, I wasn't.
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: Thinking about Andrew. No, Andrew, I wasn't thinking of that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: I was thinking that young black people consider Trump to
• 36:06
  Speaker 12: be a celebrity and that will be Trump yourself them.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Oh that is interesting. Well, in that case, it's all
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: over in terms of that particular part of the vote.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: And of course the black male vote has been a
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: problem for Kamala Harris. Illegal immigration though just broadly. Jeffrey Archert,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I have been so struck how that's become an issue
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: right across the West, including in countries we used to
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: be there used to be a byword for tolerance and liberalism,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: you know, Sweden, certainly in Holland.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: In America, Canada.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: The Justin Trudeau even said the other the other day,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: we've got a cut back on immigration. What is it
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: with the political class of the West that it has
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: lost control of this issue for so long.
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: It's a fascinating question and I think the answer is,
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: looking at it from the view of an eighty four
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: year old ex politician, it's strictly the numbers Andrew They've
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: got out of control and they go up every single year,
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: and that is what is worried the whole of Europe,
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: not just England. And I can assure you that the
• 37:25
  Speaker 12: Italians who are now turning the boats back are leading
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: the way. Though if I would dare to say, having
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: watched Australia over many years, you have had a very
• 37:38
  Speaker 12: firm immigration policy, which perhaps we should have taken more
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: notice of.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, and it's a vast demographic experiment that's been played
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: on Europe and I'm not sure how that works out.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's one you can correct if you
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: get wrong. Meanwhile, I've got to say, Jeffrey Archer, I
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: mean you you nearly broke a black vessel on the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: show when you were talking about the Labor government, the
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: worst first one hundred days you'd seen of a new government. Meanwhile,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: this government is going from bad to terrible one of
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: its Ownly in p's Mike Amesbury has been filmed building
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: one of his own constituencies again, Jeffrey Acher, is that
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: called getting in touch with your voters or is the
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: sign of cultural decline?
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: No, they couldn't have had a worse start. Of course,
• 38:35
  Speaker 12: if you've been out of power for fourteen years, it's
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: all very new to you. I'm bound to accept that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: But even I have been shocked by the unpopularity of
• 38:46
  Speaker 12: the prime minister. When Tony Blair was Prime minister, after
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: one year he was plus forty nine percent in the polls.
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: The current Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer, started off minus
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: four percent and is now minus twenty six percent. And
• 39:04
  Speaker 12: heaven knows what will happen after the budget on Wednesday.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I find that quite extraordinary these scenes. Look you,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I have to say, being not used to government, I'm
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: not quite sure that flies at his excuse for clobbering
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: some bloke on the street.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Lord Jeffrey Atch, always a pleasure to talk to you.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Good on you After the break.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: The Albdizi government bans a prominent conservative for coming to
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: this country to give lectures.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: What happened to free speech?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Before it gets to the serious stuff again? You know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: David Christopherols win in the Queensland state election on Saturday
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: gives Australia a hat trick. It's a hatrick unprecedented in
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: our country. For the first time. We we have three state,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: territory and national leaders with Italian names. This Chris of Foolie,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: whose grandparents immigrated from Italy to become cane farmers. There's
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Leo Finocciaro, the new Chief Minister of the Northern Territory.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: And there's Promisee Anthony Albanize, whose mother on the right
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: had a shipboard flinger with an Italian steward. Standing on
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: the far left, joining me are Damian Curry, a corporate
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: communications consultant and host of his own video podcasts the
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: other side, and Stephen trevoua an author and senior lecturer
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: in history a campaign college. His expertise Western civilization. And
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: speaking of which, Stephen, we haven't had three Greek leaders,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: we haven't had three Jewish leaders. We haven't even had
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: a single Chinese ones. In fact, it's so incredible how
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: few Chinese have become politicians outside say yeah, Darwin with
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: they had a couple of lord mayors, three Italian leaders.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: No less, what does that tell us?
• 40:54
  Speaker 18: I guess we can no longer say they're a weird mob. Well,
• 40:58
  Speaker 18: I mean that the Italians after the Bridge were the
• 41:01
  Speaker 18: highest percentage of immigrants to come to Australia after World
• 41:04
  Speaker 18: War Two. They make up four point four percent of
• 41:07
  Speaker 18: the population, whereas the Greeks make up one point seven
• 41:10
  Speaker 18: percent the Jews make up zero point four percent. The
• 41:13
  Speaker 18: other thing with the Italians is they had an institution
• 41:17
  Speaker 18: already existing in Australia that they could easily sort of
• 41:20
  Speaker 18: assimilate into, and that was the Catholic Church. The Greeks
• 41:23
  Speaker 18: didn't have that, the Chinese didn't have that. Jews have
• 41:27
  Speaker 18: been here for a long time, but again very small population.
• 41:29
  Speaker 18: So I think it's a function of just the numbers
• 41:32
  Speaker 18: of Italians and the ease with which they and also
• 41:36
  Speaker 18: you know the Greeks as well, and those who came
• 41:37
  Speaker 18: after World War two assimilated into Australian society. And I
• 41:41
  Speaker 18: see it as as a triumph not so much of multiculturalism,
• 41:45
  Speaker 18: but a triumph of a great assimilationist policy in Australia
• 41:49
  Speaker 18: that emphasized fitting in and making your contribution as an Australian.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Now, Damien's are more serious stuff immigration, mister Tony Burke,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: he's the nied of visa to American celebrity commentator Candace Owens.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Now he banned it from coming here on a speaking
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: tour which is supposed to start at fact fact today.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: She used to be a brave conservative, but suddenly started
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: promoting anti Semitism and she became a liar and a
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: conspiracy not I've called her out before, I've showed her
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: making nutty claims that Stalin was a Jew and Lenin
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: was a Jew, and Israel may have been credib by
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: members of child sacrificing Christian killing cult pretending to be
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Jewish issues.
• 42:32
  Speaker 19: Catholics and Christians were going missing on Passover and then
• 42:36
  Speaker 19: they would find bodies, okay, across Europe and they were
• 42:40
  Speaker 19: able to trace them back to Jews blood Bibel. They
• 42:43
  Speaker 19: weren't Jews, okay, these were Frankists. The nation of Israel
• 42:48
  Speaker 19: may have been established by some Frankists.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Now Tony Burk says has canceled her visa because she's
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: downplayed the Holocaust, made comments about SS Officer Joseph Mengele
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: knowing is gas the experiments on Jewish children, and added
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: that she'd claimed that Wilson started slavery. And he says,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: this will show she's got a capacity in such discord
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: in almost every direction. Damien, has he made the right
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: call in banning her.
• 43:16
  Speaker 17: Absolutely not.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Andrew.
• 43:18
  Speaker 17: I think it's a massive and weird and bizarre overreaction
• 43:22
  Speaker 17: that reflects the kind of hyper paternalistic nature of Australian government,
• 43:26
  Speaker 17: the nanny state that we've become. How pathetic are we
• 43:30
  Speaker 17: if we want to ban a Catholic mother of three
• 43:32
  Speaker 17: from entering our country just because she's got some very
• 43:35
  Speaker 17: wacky views. I did have the opportunity to speak to
• 43:38
  Speaker 17: Candas on the other side a month or so ago.
• 43:41
  Speaker 17: She says that those quotes have been taken out of
• 43:43
  Speaker 17: context and been are not what you know. She wasn't
• 43:46
  Speaker 17: speaking about the whole Jewish community. I personally believe she's
• 43:50
  Speaker 17: gone down some pretty weird rabbit holes lately.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: She was a great.
• 43:53
  Speaker 17: Champion of conservative causes. I hope she comes out of
• 43:55
  Speaker 17: those rabbit holes. But to extrapolate that to a point
• 43:58
  Speaker 17: where you think that she should be banned from Australia,
• 44:01
  Speaker 17: how weak, How much trouble are we in? How bad
• 44:04
  Speaker 17: is our society under Alberanezi that we can't withstand a
• 44:07
  Speaker 17: Catholic mother of three come to our country and saying
• 44:09
  Speaker 17: some nutty stuff, and why is it that Australians have
• 44:13
  Speaker 17: to be treated and infantilized like children? That the government
• 44:17
  Speaker 17: seems to think that it has to step in and
• 44:19
  Speaker 17: can't let us make up our own minds about what
• 44:22
  Speaker 17: we think she's saying that's wrong, or what we think
• 44:24
  Speaker 17: she's saying is right.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: This is just an.
• 44:28
  Speaker 17: Example of just how far we've fallen, I think, and
• 44:31
  Speaker 17: it really disturbs me.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I was away for twenty years.
• 44:34
  Speaker 17: I've been back for four and in the four years
• 44:36
  Speaker 17: i've been back, I've seen the Australian government ban people
• 44:38
  Speaker 17: with Australian passport holders from coming home to their own country.
• 44:42
  Speaker 17: I've seen people being banned from leaving the country. I've
• 44:44
  Speaker 17: seen borders within our country, state boarders, people not being
• 44:47
  Speaker 17: able to go and visit their dying relatives. I mean,
• 44:50
  Speaker 17: what has happened to our country?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: How weak are we in?
• 44:53
  Speaker 17: When is this nonsense going to stop?
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Stephen I do not buy for a second ca anders
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Oh and saying the quotes were taken out of context.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: They've actually shown you the context of one of the
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: weirder things that Israel was started by people pretending to
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: be Jews but actually being a child sacrifice. All the
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: old anti semit Semitic tropes, and she said others things like,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: you know, Hitler was Justtalin was a Jew and all
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: this kind of She is nutty and she's spreading really nasty,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: vile rumors and waving around the thing. But I'm a
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Catholic mother, you know, which she so often does. Katz
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: absolutely know us. It's just you know, hiding behind the church,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: and the Church wouldn't accept this yet Yet I'm uneasy
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: about banning her.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Should I be absolutely?
• 45:45
  Speaker 18: I mean, as Damien said, this is a disgraceful decision
• 45:47
  Speaker 18: that the Labor government has made, and the Liberal government
• 45:50
  Speaker 18: should not be the Liberal Party should not be going
• 45:52
  Speaker 18: along with it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And the really.
• 45:53
  Speaker 18: Dangerous thing is the expression she's going to incite discord.
• 45:57
  Speaker 18: Now I've heard about inciting violence, but now we're banning
• 46:01
  Speaker 18: people from coming here to speak because they're apparently going
• 46:03
  Speaker 18: to incite discord.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: What exactly does that mean?
• 46:06
  Speaker 18: What discord has she incited in the us with the
• 46:09
  Speaker 18: violence and the rabbel rousing on the university campuses against
• 46:14
  Speaker 18: this I was that incited by Candor Soonms, No, it wasn't.
• 46:17
  Speaker 18: It was incited by the far left. All of these
• 46:19
  Speaker 18: laws are always weaponized against conservatives. And what this is
• 46:23
  Speaker 18: going to do and is going to chill speech and
• 46:26
  Speaker 18: is going to really dissuade people from bringing other conservatives
• 46:29
  Speaker 18: from overseas to speak to Australians. It is a terrible
• 46:32
  Speaker 18: decision and it should be overturned.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I like the way that Tony Burke tacked on the end.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: And by the way she also said, mum started slavery.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: They didn't.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: But they were part of the slave trade absolutely, But no,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: they didn't start it. But it's interesting that of all
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: the things she said, he plucked out that one as well.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: But it's just banned for vilifying Jews. Damien, What about
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Sinney Morning Herald cartoonist Alam Moyre.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Now to be clear, I am not.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Accusing this guy of anti Semitism, just of shocking ignorance
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: and bias and insensitivity and lack of balance. He drew
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: this cartoon lacking Israel's Prime minsidnet Yaho to the Hamas
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: terrorist group which slaughtered twelve hundred Jews in October seventh
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: last year, packed raped women, beheaded men, took two hundred
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: and fifty one hostages, and he drew the star in
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Israel's flag with five points the sign of Satanism, instead
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: of the correct six points.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: What does this tell you, I don't know.
• 47:35
  Speaker 17: It gives me the creeps. There's something sick and very
• 47:38
  Speaker 17: wrong with this, and I'm tired of the false moral
• 47:41
  Speaker 17: equivalency stuff. We need to stop it. Drawing a parallel
• 47:45
  Speaker 17: an equivalency between Beniminet Yahu, the leader of a state,
• 47:51
  Speaker 17: the leader of the State of Israel, which is a
• 47:55
  Speaker 17: friend of Australia, which is a liberal democracy, the only
• 47:59
  Speaker 17: one in the region. To draw a parallel between him
• 48:03
  Speaker 17: and a terrorist organization of rap bags like Hamas or
• 48:08
  Speaker 17: Hezbala or any other terrorist organization is unconscionable and obscene
• 48:13
  Speaker 17: and wrong. And this this idea that somehow, when we
• 48:18
  Speaker 17: have this moral equivalence, we're somehow being clever and enlightened
• 48:21
  Speaker 17: and insightful enough.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: It Ulou, it is so. It is sick.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Stephen Travura, Damien Kuri, thank you both for your time.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: That's it from me. Coming up now, Sherry Marxon. Good night,