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Carolina Panthers VS New Orleans Saints | C3 Postgame Show · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Darn, and not to her but to do her brother, let's roll!
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: If this is what we have as my guest
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: What's up, Carolina Panther fans?
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: I hope that intro worked.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: It didn't play on my side.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: Cody, I was just in the dark there.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_19]: Just a song on YouTube.
• 0:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: OK, awesome.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: Welcome to C3 therapy session.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: The Carolina Panthers just failed 2017 to the New Orleans Saints.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: The Saints have swept the Carolina Panthers this season.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: And really, they swept our emotions that were all swept up last week and excitement and optimism.
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: and they swept them up and they put it in a dust pan and they put it right in a garbage is the Carolina Panthers have fallen to 2017 and now they're going to have to really put in some work if they want to try to win this division.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's not going to be as easy as just winning against Tampa.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: Had they had won this game, Carolina Panthers.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: We're in every other quarter team today as they have first quarter great second quarter.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: No good third quarter.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: Great fourth quarter.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: No good and it wasn't that great to have to play against an extra man called the referees the Carolina Panthers made some a lot of penalties in this game on both teams But the Carolina Panthers ended up shooting themselves in the foot towards the end of the game with some terrible terrible bone headed
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: penalties on there and and a lot of tiki tech calls from the refs earlier that probably had them frustrated my name's Tony Doug is the C3 post game show here with my will man Cody like Tony the men the Panthers get something good we had
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: a couple days where we got to let claim to be in the number one team in the NFC.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_19]: And then on two weeks of preparation, the Panthers go in and yet again, they cannot get it done against the bottom of the NFC South in the New Orleans sense.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's web dust this year and it was absolutely pathetic.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: the not going for the field goal on fourth down really hurt us then after that just the defense letting them march all the way up field the referee was terrible but I feel like this is embarrassing man when you see the Buffalo Bills and the New England Patriots and what that type of team
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_19]: But those types of teams are able to do and pull up it lets you know we have a long way to go and yet in spite of it all the Panthers are still in the running for a home playoff game.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_19]: Do it's a wildly the Panthers are consistently inconsistent and Tony I don't know but it's going to happen in order for us to fix it do
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's two, five, two, two, eight, 50, 98.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: We'd like to get your thoughts on today's game, the disappointment.
• 3:43
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• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: Longest run in Panthers podcast and right now, it's been a long time since we've been consistently happy.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: really is the only reason it hasn't been in every other week experience for us is we had the advantage of having a buy and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers losing on that buy, which made it feel like we won.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_16]: So we had two weeks of happiness.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: Again, I feel like I'm certain somewhat to blame for this because every time I've picked the Panthers this season, they've lost and every time I've picked against them, they've won.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: I will say is the time where the favorite will lose and the time where the ending of that we be the jet.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: Oh, hey, what to do, but we didn't even start as a favorite in the time the Panthers are favored to win.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_19]: when we're in the scenario to win, coming off of two weeks, and that we still can't fucking get it done, our defense in the second half of this game was fucking abysmal dude.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_19]: We were dropping direct brown back into coverage.
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_19]: I just don't know how the panters continues to find a way to get in their own way.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_19]: In a moment when they have everything on the table,
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: Uh, today's game really came down to, well, why don't I want to shout out?
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think maybe there's some, I'm probably going to be some Saints fans in the chat is the Saints team playing down the stretch a lot better than their record says they are right is the shook guy is is playing hard.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's throwing the ball down fields.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: He might not be perfect all the time, but we did not.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: He looked good today.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: Good enough.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: Right.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, he, he laid his body out on the line.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: He did not make a ton of mistakes.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: There was a couple of parent passes at times, but nothing that we're in a high pressure situation for a rookie quarterback that you know could really fall apart in a sense and he didn't do it, right?
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: And they always they kept moving the ball and it seems like every week they've gotten better on offense, but really the story of this game to me Cody is
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, look, we can cry about officiating.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: We're going to, I'm sure.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, look, there was, and at times, we deserve, there was, I mean, at the end, come on, line it up off sides against the fuel go, the personal foul from Nathan Ranson hurt, right?
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, I know that that was such a bang bang.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's probably so taking a back on what that, you almost should have let him run all the way to the one.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: and try to drag it out for the hold 9 seconds maybe, and then tackle them.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: The story of this game though is that the Carolina Panthers did not win the trenches.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_16]: Cody is that it started as the Carolina Panthers effectively run in the ball in the first quarter.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: A long drive chewing up clock, we got, well actually, we knocked them off, they weren't able to convert, we forced them into a punning situation, we got the ball long drive, turned
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, was that the fur it was that the doubt will touch down that was kind of questionable if it got across the line.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: I can't remember what the first touch down.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'll find it in just a second, but the Carolina Panthers were able to run the ball, in fact, they ran the ball like every play for the first six plays.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: The second quarter they started throwing more and it was, it seemed to me, though, they didn't abandon the run, but the Panthers stopped being able to run the ball effectively.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's that doubt will made a lot out of some poor situations at times.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: Chuba had some powerful runs, but that defense was given our offensive lines problem.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: in the run game and then towards the back end when we could not run the ball at and then we were going into passing situations.
• 7:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're working at working us while the Carolina Panthers on the other side of the ball.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: We're not able to generate that same consistent pressure to fluster shook.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: Right?
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: We couldn't shook.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, we couldn't.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_19]: To me, told you it was a tale of two
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_19]: in the first half.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_19]: And then the second half, they just could not get the run game going.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: They're getting, getting stopped on those short, downed distances and just the play calling was a bismal.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_19]: You know, telling there were a few key moments in this game that just really to me turn the tide, right?
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_19]: So there was that huge drop by Ted O'Rollman Millen on, you know, when we were driving
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yes, like that man that ball was that that's a that deep what in in the end zone the one in the end zone Well, no, it was the one it was the ball should have been out a little bit ahead of team act But it was a little bit behind them and yeah, I think I might have been I don't think that's so much as a drop as a past offended, you know, yeah, but it was still like a That one or opportunity to wrench that ball right and normally I'm the type of person
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: And, you know, make it where the defender can't even make a play on the ball, but two magnets to come down with that shit.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: And it gets to a point where now every single game two Mac has a bad drop.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_19]: That's like indefensible and it's like dude, what's going on man?
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't like that's a good defensive play.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: That should have been hard.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's what we're ultimately saying is there's a touchdown that you left on the table, a little better ball placement prevents that defense of back for making that play.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: I just can't in my mind say that's a drop.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: Because I mean, he actually gave the defender an opportunity to make a play that if it would have been led, he would have had no chance it would have just been a catch.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: Then you also had the tech when the challenge that was tough tough catch.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, but you know when he once that bottom hand came off the ball, they're not going to call that a catch.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_19]: I still feel like you should have caught that ball.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: I just feel that way.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_19]: To me, Tony's the game changed on that fourth and one play.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: The one where can now this challenge to fourth down, that Bryce picked up the line to the game.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_19]: She didn't and on 4th and 1 did decide to go for it and get fucking stopped take the 3 fucking points Take the 3 points.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh, I don't think we're in field goal range there though.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yes, we're working
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_19]: We were absolutely in field goal range, shout out to Jonathan Collins's, this was a coaching issue, hands down, dude, take the field goal, go for it through right there.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_19]: And then, I mean, we're literally in a position to win that football game.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: But then the very next drive, you let them go something like 62 yards in eight plays in five minutes,
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, we were in field goal range 35.
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_19]: What is with the defensive breakdown you let them go almost a whole length of the fucking field and under five minutes And dude, I'm sorry, man.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_19]: This is the only every chance to stop that final touchdown pass to a lobby and then just fucking didn't man didn't get his hands on the ball to me.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: That's where we lost the game
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_19]: They should have went for the field goal on the fourth and one everybody's been in a much better position But instead that gave all the momentum to New Orleans
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think I'm kind of with white chocolate expressive my bastard son in the chat that it said I'm not mad about going forward on fourth and one because it was fourth and inches.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: I do think that the quarterback sneak is the better call RG3 said it on the broadcast.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: He said do not do
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: He said, right now I've heard our QB sneak don't turn around and hand it off and try to have to get all that They don't trust a five foot No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't know if it's a trust.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it's a bad call.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: Go and back in here and look, we'll make, let's make two more comments and then let's get into some calls.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: And so we can let the callers direct the shows.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was not just us front ending the commentary.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: When it comes to the defense, frustrated by penalties,
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm telling uh well actually I'm frustrated by a couple of penalties on this one is that Taylor Motten holding call was bullshit on the QB script.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: That was no hold.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm sorry.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: There was some ticky text stuff when it came to Yeah, it was terrible.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, it was terrible.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I think it's saps some of the momentum.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: But what we saw really is here's the problem with the defense that happened and that happened and this is
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: kind of a culmination of what the whole game was for the Carolina Panthers.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: That final drive, you'd peg them deep.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: You pinned them deep.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: This punter man.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: This punter's been great.
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: This punter put them in the tin within the inside the tin a couple of times in this game.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: You're tied.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: You put them back.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're on the dam and zone basically.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: That final drive.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_16]: they started on the nine.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_16]: They, what they were able to do is this is that because we really don't have any edge pressure, I feel like is this is everything is that they let, they let the defense, they suck the defense up and kill them on a screen.
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: That screen pass was the dagger.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was a 19 yard, I think, first and 10, yeah, it was a 19 yard pass.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: on second and ten and like it was just like as you just gave up this giant chunk.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then they're talking about that this kicker could make they were like he was in field goal range and they were on the for our on their 40.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_19]: I was like, yeah, and and put him and he made a 64 yarder.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: But then you had penalty and problems Carolina defense.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: Good, bad, and ugly.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_16]: I say this is, the good part is this is in Mugsburg.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_16]: There's something, this was just a squandered game by every component, every part of the team from coaching, but here, good news.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: This is the first time this season, or anytime, where you're not gonna say squandered game because of Bryce Yom.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: I have no criticism of Bryce Young's play today.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think that it sucks that our offense of lie just got manhandled down the stretch to where he couldn't try to make some plays.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_19]: It is just bulldozed.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, that was fun.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, that was fun.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, I felt like generally Bryce played well today.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, no, he didn't make any mistakes.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: No, and if getting sat is a mistake, that's the only thing.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_19]: I have more smoke for a team act today than I do for boys.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think there were two drops and then also we're not talking about the one at the end.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: where Bryce is rolling to the right, throws it to him, and then he just doesn't get his hand underneath the ball.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: And it goes from being a catch to being the incomplete pass.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like, dude, I'm sorry.
• 15:54
  [SPEAKER_19]: I know that it's your work is here, but bro, you need to catch those fucking passes.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: There were two of them that I felt like he needed to make today.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_19]: And he just didn't, man.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: Matt Man 78 with a $5 copay on the C3 Panthers post game show also the C3 therapy session.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: He says I felt like the the the the refs called that game like they were getting a thousand dollars every flag they threw so frustrating to watch it really sapped a lot of the momentum out of the game.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think for both it's it really I think it kept New Orleans in it.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: because it felt like they were getting run over early on in the momentum was piling towards the Panthers defense and and then these penalties just even when they were it was because it was back and forth back and forth back and forth and just kept things going for them.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's problematic that I think it's sacked.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: a lot of the energy and the care a lot of panthers near vosh with the five dollar co-paces we need to make a big move for past rush or this offseason the lack of past rush is in critical situations is killing them and by the way today today we had to sacks
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: It was one of our better sack performances, but yeah, and those critical down in this pressure.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, there's just no pressure, dude.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: And I feel like we're depending too much on the young guys, Prensley and Nick, and I don't even think they're particularly bad today.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_19]: But we're just not getting enough consistent pressure on the quarterback and it's a problem They were not noticeable how about that in here.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: It just took to pose this Cody is your right as like is the Panthers have generated some pressure It's all coming from Bobby Brown and Derek Brown and you know the interior
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: or whoever this Gibson guy was, why do they stop playing him?
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: He went, yeah, he plays where he had a sack and then they got a hold on him.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: But just juxtaposed the final minutes of the game.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: Tied up, Bryce Young and the Panthers get the ball with an opportunity to go down and score and make it, you know, when the game on the road, they're able to do it in two drives, but Bryce Young gets sacked
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: by that one where Chase Young bull rushed right and then there was all the pressure or two that caused him to have to scramble even though he was able to successfully scramble one or two times.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was that you were not able to run a regular play where he dropped back into the ball and tried to advance it.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: And on the other hand, the damn saint started on the nine and they marched and basically moved the ball.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_19]: Fine.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: That's why I'm saying like why does your defense completely fucking disappear and follow off the cliff when you need them the most like you let them drive the whole length of the field and not just that Tony, it wasn't just shut down Charlie's there were getting short plays.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_19]: Tell the screen to the screen boy moment the ball down the field like it's absolutely abysmal Is that worth again the business or somebody already called me out for using but there's it's absolutely Abysmal that we let that happen when the game is on the line and it's like how will be the team?
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_19]: that beat the Green Bay Packers and beat the Los Angeles Rams.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_19]: Why is this team bipolar?
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_19]: Another super channel wanted to read to Jonathan Collins with another one diagnosis.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_19]: Why did it become a way from jail and poker?
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_19]: He was bowling out.
• 19:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: Tony right now, I feel like Jalen Coker is the most dependable wide receiver on this team.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_19]: More so than T-Mac, more so than Xavier, look at it.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: Any time you throw a ball toward Jalen Coker,
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_19]: he's coming down with it.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like why don't we just continue to do the things that are working instead of always trying to fit a square pair into a round hole.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's like there's no adjustments made towards what you're doing well.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_19]: It makes no sense to me how this team is the same one that big the ramps.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't know how it's possible.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: uh... the numbers two five two two two eight fifty ninety eight uh... carol's go ahead and take some calls the numbers two five two two two two eight fifty ninety eight and see you guys tell us what uh... what you thought about this loss with the implications or and uh... i'm gonna tell you how it undermined later in the show how it undermined the dream scenario for what i was hoping could happen with panthers and i think it was likely but uh... there was a possibility that we could look i got ck's put it in the bank shirt on
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's my fault.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: My fault.
• 20:46
  [SPEAKER_16]: Cody, let's take these calls.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, and thank you to Jonathan Collins as much with horn versus the Saints.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: He was terrible.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_19]: That's an understatement bro.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_19]: Something's wrong when horn plays the New Orleans Saints numbers two five two two two eight fifty ninety Let's take some cat call.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: So what do you thought it's on cat call?
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's pretty She shouldn't do that.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: Somebody and how did that make you feel?
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_14]: Uh, very incomcible.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, how do you think Kaka only makes the person feel?
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_14]: It feels good, like, please, and of course, and I'll lose that kiss in the back corner with the space that we've made this door.
• 21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, who's that kid that can use?
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_26]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't understand, you're up to 17 to 7.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's just so embarrassing, man.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: You got swept by the three and 10 Saints.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: Two of their four wins are from you.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: The play calling was conservative.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: Still can't get the past game going.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: The defense, I mean, dude, a hero ever, he needs to go.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: you can't run the same soft shell fucking coverage for 90% of the game and here we are with a prime dude took it a bit eight and six and all you had to do is win next week man this is why the when the king pulls you in they fucking shit down your leg every fucking year man i mean how many or years are we gonna go through this
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: it's so embarrassing man when it's right there for you for the take and you can't get it done you can't get it done coming off of by week coming off of by week this team so has a long long way to go man a long long way to go this was fucking embarrassing man fucking embarrassing from Dave Canales a zero euro the the play calling was bad I mean
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: the same type of play calling.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: The same coverage, you sit in the same coverage, the broadcaster thing is, the whole game.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: Why is the zero, ever even here, man?
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: Why is he even here?
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: Why do you give your corner back to Kenqu?
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: Why do you give the wide receiver's 10 yards of cushion?
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: And Lake and Ramson, I know he made the penalty.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: The game was just, there was penalty to go, or, but,
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: just a headache man i just can't believe it like i i was so i was going to go to the game next week i'm not even hype anymore i'm not even hype anymore just the same old shit man the same old fucking shit uh... is this is year was this going to be the eight year in a row miss the play off now because you have to sweep the book years you have to sweep the book in years
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: Which we know this team's inconsistent.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: We know this team comes off the by week and still can't beat the three and ten things.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: You're up to 17 to seven in the fourth quarter.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: Just fucking embarrassing man.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: Just fucking embarrassing embarrassing man.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_11]: Year after year.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: uh the kid there were 20 penalties in this game.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: 20 penalties uh the Panthers had 11 penalties for 103 yards.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: I could go ahead and say that authority or 45 of those personal fouls, personal fouls were warranted.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: Right.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: The Latham ransom hit is got is got to be called.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: I thought that calling the flag on
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: I thought was a lot, but I was okay with him defending the quarterback like Archie 3 said is that you don't want to say penalties all right.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: But the penalties kept a true this game out.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: They were a problem, man.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_16]: The penalties, and look, the Panthers have not, I was thinking too in the beginning.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: And it right when it started again, like anything, anytime I thought cross my head, it like manifested in the terribleness as the saints were getting all those penalties in the second, like in, I guess it was in whatever the early in the game, I was thinking man, you can't be a bad team and when getting a lot of penalties.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I really feel like the Panthers have improved and not beaten themselves with false stars and stuff like that.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then all of a sudden, what don't today?
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, we started terrible.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: Telling everyone a Panther down today and just in, I'll give you my curious.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_16]: What Anthony was saying is, look, is you were talking about the Panthers winning this game today, which they were poised to do.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: A head, the entire game, even with the ball at the end with the chance to win and tied, right?
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: You can get me, they were in a situation to win this game.
• 26:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: You go in and Bank of America would be rocking next week.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, but tell me whatever.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it would be witness his Tampa at home first and then a way.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, we have Tampa at home, Seattle at home, then tap on the road.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_19]: So tell me here's the deal though.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_19]: So two statements, right?
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, one's a question.
• 26:26
  [SPEAKER_19]: Am I wrong for saying that even though the seasons almost over, I still don't really know who this team is.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_19]: because I have seen them capable of the highest of highs.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: I've seen them beat the Los Angeles Rams with the health advantage atoms and health people can occur.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_19]: I have seen them beat the Green Bay Packers with a Michael Parsons playing well.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_19]: yet to see them productive performances like they did against the Saints, like they did against the 49ers, like they did against the Patriots, like there is such a wide spectrum of performance that this Carolina Panthers team is capable of.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: So my other statement to kind of go juxtaposed that is, look, I know we're feeling fucking bad right now.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_19]: The Panthers should have won that game.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_19]: Put two, temple looks like trash.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_19]: they look like trash and they are spiraling right now.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: I know we're feeling bad and yes, we should have beat the sense.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: But I can't sit here and tell you, oh yeah, the buck and ears are going to doll walk us.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, this is going to be a fight.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's going to be a scratching clawing performance between the panters and the bucks, and it's going to be a photo finish.
• 28:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like, I don't know what type of team we're going to be
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't know what type of team we're going to be against Tampa Bay because I have seen them put up great performances and then I've also seen them be terrible.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_19]: I just don't know which because we are so inconsistent and everything that we do to me, it's hard to know, even still with only what three weeks left of the Hangout Fellows season, it's hard to know who we are as a football team.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think the sad answer is that this is exactly who we are as a football team is a team that has potential to win games, but hasn't found a way to become a winner yet.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like they haven't made the turn and every and that's really the the
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: disappointment in Anthony's call, and it goes back to my meltdown on this season was against the first Saints game.
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_16]: Is every time this team has an opportunity to take a
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: not cautiously optimistic, right, but believing that we're a team that you don't want to mess with and a team that we're excited to win on Sunday.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: Every time we have that opportunity, we don't capitalize.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: So the Carolina Panthers really are poised to win on Sunday because the other thing, the answer is that is there in every other week team.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: Right when you start getting upset with them, they give you a little bit to say, oh, we're not as bad as you thought we are or something to that effect.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: This team that not supposed to be Panthers are exactly what it is and they're not supposed to be winning right now today they didn't, they didn't make the turn.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: It looked like they were every time and again, the Saints, the first Saints game, this is a replica of it.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: But not it's bad, not it's bad because Bryce didn't play bad, right?
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: You didn't have it.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, Bryce didn't earn the ball over.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: And we were command the whole time, really.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_19]: It was a relatively close game, just like the first one.
• 30:15
  [SPEAKER_19]: But Tony, the more you want to see here in the steering, I genuinely think the decision not to kick the field goal,
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_19]: Shout out a din said is like bro if we kicked that field goal instead of going for it and getting stopped we win
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_19]: We literally win this game.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: That is literally the turning point of this football game.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think you have to put that on can Alice.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_19]: Here's the one calling, please.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_19]: Here's the one making some decisions.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_16]: Were you saying that in the moment after Bryce just basically got the first down?
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I mean, you're 100% on four, four downs.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: You know, is that I feel like, I mean, I don't want to be too mad, like he's like, yeah, I mean, but I really is, I mean, you're not wrong, though.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: Is the Panthers make that feel go and it's kind of one of these things is that I was thinking about it, too, is that if the Panthers, because I was thinking the Panthers are going to win this game, I mean, and I was thinking at most of the game, until the fourth quarter, I was thinking that the Panthers were going to find a way to pull this out or
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: But I thought, too, like, what will be the storyline and the narrative people coming in saying, oh, well, you barely beat a bad, bad saints.
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: And they're not, and I just was thinking of my head, who gives the shit?
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: Who gives the shit?
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_16]: Just get a win and move on.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't care if it's nice or ugly or what you think about the saints or any of that.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: And the Panthers weren't able to do that, which makes it even worse.
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: The numbers 252, 228, 5098.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let's go to Chuck and Elizabeth City.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_22]: Hey guys, it's Chuck from the Louisville City.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_22]: Why don't you try and narrow your phones and blow up the night?
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_22]: And you know what?
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_22]: I should expect as much.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_22]: You can't blame Bryce.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_22]: And the first day off, because it promised to not catch the ball to take it from him.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_22]: The defense hit the bat.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_22]: His poor cousin decision.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_22]: I was thinking a little when it's 17 to 10.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_22]: We had a chance that that field girl with Bryce went forward on that fourth down to one and didn't get it paid to point back in my mind and then they bought the field girl from this last game.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_22]: You go up 2010 games over.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_22]: There's to know what try to get it from the wind and knowledge was like a dumbass man.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_22]: Defense was like shit.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_22]: You can't blame Everest.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_22]: It's player execution.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_22]: Yeah, because a piece of the plague is this city thing like this place, you'll bat his temple base plate.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_22]: We'll find the way to see the bad messings.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_22]: That's pathetic.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_22]: It's just guys on it all the time while for words.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't know.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm not trying to excuse the Panthers by any means.
• 33:22
  [SPEAKER_16]: Please, is that this is again an opportunity for this team to become a winner and they didn't.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: you ask what this was.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: We don't know this team.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: We actually do know this team is that they can't content.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: They can't find consistency.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: They can't consistently be better week to week.
• 33:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: They have moments where they're good and then they have moments where they're not as good as they should be.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: I do believe that the Saints are far better of a team than their record shows.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I think that a lot of their terrible record comes from the very beginning of the season.
• 33:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: As soon as they look is what it's only been a few weeks, what three weeks since we played the Saints forward.
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, this has been not long.
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: This show guy has changed the momentum of this
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're moving the ball and they're doing it without key, without Alvin Kamara, they're doing it with his legs and different.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, he's played for better than I expected him to do.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's not an excuse for the Carolina Panthers.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: The real, that they haven't at every level haven't found a way to take the turn.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: And there's only one person today in my mind that gets
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: Not a pass.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh yeah, a pass.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: Is I don't think Bryce Young did any.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't think he was part of this loss today.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, he was not the reason that we lost.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_19]: He wasn't even a part of it.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_19]: I felt like Bryce made some big time throws and just and extended plays, got outside of the pocket and did what he could to win.
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: I feel like the play calling.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_19]: Let them down and I feel like some drops let them down.
• 35:08
  [SPEAKER_19]: I feel like Jitevian said, or let them this more and more.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, but I'm talking about on the offensive side of the ball.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_15]: Right, okay.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: I feel like T-Max has some of business more drops today.
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_19]: Someone's that really mattered and I think Jitevian Sanders is sorry.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_19]: There was a pass going across the middle of the field that his straight-up should have had, but it seems like he wrote it because he didn't want to take a hit.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: You know, like... Well, Trump has missed that pass a little bit behind the two.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was a little...
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: Nothing was a grieges, right?
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's like even the most a grieges play in your mind which comes back to T-Mac.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: And it wasn't a bad ball by Bryce if it was a little bit better that defensive play it was a good play by the defense defensive player and if you can say all team action to come it should have made it it's a ball's a little ahead it would have made it the point is the Panthers didn't get the touchdown is a dagger right there the dagger.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I'll have rice through it, you know what I'm saying?
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: So like I don't even mind like I'm not like oh Bryce was behind.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: I could like is how about this is you threw to ball you saw the read and it didn't work out that sucks.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: And we got beaten the trenches.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's what it is.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: We got beaten the trenches.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: This team ran on us without anybody.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: You don't even know these guys names have the time their defense of front gave everybody fits.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: What we really are missing.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it or not missing is Robert Hunt makes this team better.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, definitely.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_19]: You put a crore here, you're able to run the ball for $1 million for Robert Hunt.
• 36:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: But we would be running up the gut more.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, we'd be running up the gut more.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh, and why we're shitting on the defense.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think this is J.C. horn.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: terrible game.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: I would say terrible.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: He made a good place.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: But I have been one of the biggest J. C. Horn defenders, David, when he was being injured a bunch and missing games over the years.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_19]: Today he played a bit more than me.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: I wouldn't go that far there at Bismal again, but that touchdown, that touchdown is like that kind of moment where you want visually or not visually you need the big money player to make the big money play just you know, it's just got beat, but the fact is that rookie quarterback through a fucking ball.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: He had it.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_16]: He read it and he delivered it.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think this team though, and this is going to be lost when it comes to the defense because they allowed the saints that couldn't find a way to put the saints away.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: This defense is hitting harder and play him meaner than I've seen for a long time.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: While this defense is not doing all the things that we want,
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: because we've gained excitement from them, right, because they've made turnovers, they've kept held teams to 20 points and stuff like this is, it's made us want more from them.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: But these guys are out there, thump in.
• 38:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: even in these big plays that are converted, they're crushing these guys.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: And Rose Boom laid the boom a few times in this game, a big what fourth-in-one stop, I think, or it was either third-in-one or fourth-in-one, where he comes across and he comes and gets, would taste some hill out in the flat, which was awesome.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, you had Mike Jackson just crushing dudes, you had Trevor morgue killing people and if you want to find a guy that had a tough day, it was Charles Smith weighed.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: He had a couple of good plays, but then he had a couple of critical mistakes in this game and I, oh, that hold that they called on him bullshit.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: They call it a hold on him, total bullshit, and I don't know if some of that, if that pass interference was a pass interference on, who was that one, camera member, if it was in that game or not, I was watching and watching so much football today.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: The numbers 252, 228, 598, let's keep rocking with the calls.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_13]: JP here, Sean's lead.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_13]: You go on to again to things.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_13]: He don't deserve to make the
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_13]: You're not a contender, you're a contender.
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_13]: Only two against the saints.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_13]: That's epic.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_13]: It's done.
• 40:01
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: but telling me, I still don't feel like all season is over.
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's because of what I said earlier, as bad as the end of today's game was, we were still in the game, most of the game.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_19]: It was a very close game.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_19]: And we have sort of seen the Panthers play to the level of their competition.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_19]: So it's like, I don't know.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: I wish that I could say, oh, yeah, well, we know for sure that we're done.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_19]: We might still be Tampa Bay.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_19]: We might still give a great performance against the sea ox.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't know.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_19]: This team is just so bipolar.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_19]: You just have to know that it's going to be a rollercoaster ride, but you can't depend on them to be great and you can depend on them to be terrible either.
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_19]: But I disagree with the color.
• 41:10
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't feel like our season ended today.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_19]: If it didn't end the last time it played in the world, then it didn't end today.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: There we have three more games to play.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: Both have some truth to them, right?
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: Is the reality is that I'd rather play the books right now than I would play the Saints.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: How about that?
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, you come through to that.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: And if you just look at the record, you're not going to say that.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: But if you look at the way the teams are not like trending, just playing in the type of games that they're playing, is that I don't, the saints are, I think the saints are going to continue to just, we're going to have that mentality that they suck, that they're shit.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I think they're a little bit better.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think they're tougher than people give them credit for and they're showing it down
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: Uh, but at the same time, the caller's right is if you are a team that's trying to not only just make the playoffs, but go into the playoffs and make some noise, this is a game.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_16]: You don't have to stop the Saints.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: But you've got to win it.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: And that's the thing is that the Panthers didn't, I mean, it would have been nice to visually start the Saints.
• 42:22
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think I think the best thing for the Panthers would have been today is to find a way to get to be the team that came out 2017.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: Because then that keeps you focused for Tampa next week.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: It advances you on your cause and You don't get big head like if you blew out the Saints today 30 to three or something like that all of a sudden you bind into your hype too much.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: The Panthers just but that's the problem
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: They haven't found our way to win these games and it doesn't matter who it's against.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: It could be the Saints, it could be whoever the team is, is that when you have an opportunity to seize it, to seize victory from the jaws of defeat, you didn't do it today.
• 43:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: and I think that goes back to or as well to the first meeting with the Saints.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's when is this is a team that you you don't want to shit on them because I mean if a Saints fans in here I don't want them to just be like oh fear your team and fear your team blah blah blah you got to win this is that these are the moments you find ways to win.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: And that's been the problem for the Carolina Panthers.
• 43:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: You want to know who the Carolina Panthers are.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're not supposed to be Panthers.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're not supposed to beat the Rams, but they do.
• 43:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're not supposed to beat the Green Bay Packers, but they do.
• 43:42
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're not supposed to lose to the New Orleans States, but they do.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: The numbers 252, 228, 5098, let's keep going with the calls.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_25]: I said, guys, it's Brian from Sportenburg, watching that disappoint me all of my first in this, I thought, it's fucked that rest, and that entire referee crew can't tell me that, and if I was not safe, in terms of betting lines, whatnot, so the streak of the Panthers losing games where they are, quote-unquote, favorite to win, that streak still lives.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_25]: Secondly, the defense has been a lot better this year, and we can all agree to that, but I think at end of the year, what we've got to let Ebro go, I mean, it's become clear, especially when these games have begun to mean a little bit more that this is the defense is this not able to get pressure when we need them to get pressure.
• 44:52
  [SPEAKER_25]: We, again, made power stuff look like a Pro Bowl collar record back at the rookie.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_25]: No mistakes made by him today for ridiculous.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_25]: Anyways, he poundin'.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_25]: Fuck the sense.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: Okay, poundin'.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_19]: Can now us run up to the park.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: He went up to the podium, says a couple of things.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: He said, fourth and one was too good to not take.
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_19]: So he pretty much stood by his call.
• 45:25
  [SPEAKER_19]: And then he would go on to say that penalties killed us.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: Well, he's not wrong with that.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: No, I mean, it simplifies it too much because what killed us is the trenches, the trenches.
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: We could not, we just didn't win.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: All games come down Alina Scrimmage and we stopped winning the line of Scrimmage in this ground and I don't know why that is.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_16]: You had some great moments from Derek Brown playing tough.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_16]: You had some moments, but this defensive front, which really looked doggish in the beginning when you had Bobby Brown who was like,
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: start to say, man, I was sitting there going, Bobby Brown, the third, started overturt warden is not a downgrade.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: But then it got all washed away.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: All of that got washed away in this game.
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: So I think we lost the trenches, I think, and yes, penalties, and he is not wrong about the penalties being so much of a problem extending drives, changing the field position.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, it just was, and let's just go ahead and write off, like if you could excuse a couple of penalties, like two or three, like where the penalties were bullshit calls, there were just times.
• 46:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think the child's Smith wave one.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: Just as a dagger, you know, they go from what kicking a field goal, I mean, I think that I do think that one bit us and that's going to look back at the game book, but you know what is.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: You might not want to put your money on the Panthers necessarily, you know, you might not be at this moment so excited to say, I know everything about football because I thought the Carolina Panthers were going to win this game and I'm going to make the best fantasy football hits in the world.
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: But don't let this week prevent you from doing what the Panthers can do next week.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's right.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_19]: We can be every other weeks in Fantasy football as well And we're gonna be at home and we're going to be underdogs
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_19]: against Tampa Bay.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_19]: So it's like those are all of our best thing about it.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: We're going to be underdogs the rest of the season.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: And that's when the panters win straight up.
• 47:44
  [SPEAKER_19]: When we're favored, that's when you know you're going to get the worst version of the Carolina Panthers that you could put money on.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: But I think Tampa is probably going to be favored.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_19]: And I think Seattle will
• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: do everything is on the line.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_19]: If the Panthers want a home playoff game, they need to go out and fucking take it.
• 48:07
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• 48:12
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• 48:26
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• 48:34
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• 48:44
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• 49:35
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• 49:48
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• 50:54
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• 50:59
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• 51:02
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• 51:04
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• 51:05
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• 51:06
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• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_21]: See what we've got here.
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_21]: Oh, no, no, that was before the end of the game.
• 51:30
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• 51:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, okay.
• 51:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: Brother, this is G-Covacia.
• 51:36
  [SPEAKER_09]: I am so fucking pissed.
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: We shouldn't have lost that damn game.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: We shouldn't have lost that damn game.
• 51:44
  [SPEAKER_09]: Number one fucking team act to meet.
• 51:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: And then, when Bryce ran, that was the fucking first down.
• 51:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: I don't give it to him.
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_09]: Nobody said that was the first fucking down.
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: How in the living?
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_09]: Fuck, did we lose to the damn saint twice this year?
• 52:06
  [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, that fucking saint's mind.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_09]: So now we got a fucking beat tempo twice the question of energy solve, man.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_09]: Who's the be a tough roll, tough roll?
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_09]: I still got to say some awful, awful ways, so I'll really do.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_09]: This is just, oh, y'all mad like me.
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm mad is fucking hell and then on that damn force of one why didn't they do a quarterback fucking sleep But it didn't do a quarterback sleep, man Little ass right think that he got a bit there for four y'all to something like that.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_09]: You know he could have like come on now y'all That was stupid shit, man I mean personally I think we play All right game the defense.
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, like what three facts over them
• 52:49
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I won fucking play, my jack said knock the down ball out.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_09]: I was wish Rosable would have caught that shit.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: But stuck through his fucking hands and the wall was do caught the fumble.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_09]: All right, fuck man.
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: And then to me, I was looking for Isaiah Simmons.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_09]: My aunt see his aunt's man.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: My opinion, I would put him on the fucking edge.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_09]: She's up boy, get a speed.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_09]: I remember him and Clemson.
• 53:10
  [SPEAKER_09]: I saw him be a fucking speed, man.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, well, what was off the tamper?
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_09]: I think that capital I think I go to Tampa next week or do they play in a caravan?
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_09]: No, I'm not going to.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: It will push your hands.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: So it's time for the long losses game, because you shot ourselves in the foot or fuck it, keep pounding y'all.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_19]: Keep pounding, brother.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_19]: Hey, man.
• 53:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't even know what to say anymore man.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'll tell you what I'll tell you.
• 53:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't give you something to think about I said today we lost the trenches which we I really I mean visually we did right the Panthers have five sex today We talking I was talking joke about these yeah, that's all saying dad.
• 53:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: There was some impressive sack performance in a while What I'm had too you wouldn't believe this the the for us not winning the trenches
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: the saying to only have one sack and it was that one sack from a chase young.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, it was at a timely time, a timely time if that's a thing.
• 54:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: But they they were just where it was pressure.
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was congestion and some of the greatest plays by Bryce were in real kudos to Bryce today because this is if you could get this
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: We got, I got no problems moving forward with them.
• 54:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I don't have a problem.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it's going to be right for the Carolina Panthers to stick with it, whether they bring in some competition or at least bring in a capable backup in case price on gets hurt or doesn't play well that you can then not squander an entire season.
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: I do think that's better than keeping Andy Dalton in the mix.
• 54:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: But I think Bryson is going to be the starting quarterback.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't know how if he's going to, like, if it's just going to be a fifth year option or beyond, but today, you know, I mean, it's like, when he does this spin out, he beat him today, and he got in space.
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: And he looked forward and he made plays.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: He made plays with his leg.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_16]: He looked down the view.
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: There have been sometimes where he did the same thing and it didn't catastrophic.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: This is the Bryce Young you want right here you get this and you can build you can win games with this you can build a play off team with a player like that and and today this is the non Bryce Young show today Bryce Young.
• 55:31
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, yeah, I'm even on your side man.
• 55:34
  [SPEAKER_19]: I, I even say that some of the offensive weapons.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: were not on par with what Bryce could do today, like I feel like we left plays on the field that Bryce made.
• 55:49
  [SPEAKER_19]: So I'm normally in agreements with Vegas Panthers Drew, but again, he disagrees.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_19]: It says, this team makes me not want to enjoy football.
• 55:58
  [SPEAKER_19]: It makes me not enjoy watching football.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_19]: Even though I went through that one 15 season, Bryce had his usual shot, the bed, when there are any expectations.
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: Bryce Young was almost the leading russia today.
• 56:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: Today, the rushing guards were 49 yards for Rico Dado 11, 16 attempts.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: 49 yards for Bryce Young on seven attempts.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: Chuba Hubbard with eight, it was eight for 29.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: Bryce Young finished 15 for 24.
• 56:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: You got to love that completion percentage.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: 116, 163 yards, no interceptions, no fumbles.
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, I mean, there was, and here, I mean, you think about this, you add that TMA, you add two plays, three plays, that a guy could have caught you, you reference, you take me on Sanders, you reference, TMA, I reference, Trimble, all of a sudden that's a 220-yard game.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: Now I feel like this is like now where I mean, I'm not trying to find ways to, there's no reason to defend Bryce or excuse it.
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's just this is that when you look at this and we're making a list of things, there's nothing to talk about there.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: What we're gonna talk about is this penalties, defense, play calling.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_16]: His like is like, is Bryce keep doing your thing?
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: Keep your chin up and I tell you, I don't know what, I was weirded out.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: Now, one actually, if I got one thing, I don't know if it's negative to say about I just have one comment about Bryce and I don't know if it was it was at the end of the second quarter and maybe we had to settle for the field goal and my man was just on the bench and he was just like
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: like he was staring into nothing like I was like where did this guy where is he going because he going into a shirt universe I just want to talk to him about like do you know what this guy's back on to him like he was just like it's not a bad I'm not being critical I was just like damn this motherfucker
• 58:04
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, did you see him on the sideline after ransom had the late hit on the shook and it showed him and he was just had his hands on his head like this was the most divisible disappointed.
• 58:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: I've seen Bryce in a long time and I felt like they expected to win this game How much?
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_16]: How much?
• 58:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: How much did we be at?
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: How much did we be at Lincoln ransom?
• 58:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: it's so tick attack because you don't respect the court attack.
• 58:33
  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm saying you don't expect that one to run by there.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: You're not surprised to surprise.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: You're not expecting the court back to run in that moment.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: Let a play call.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, it was a damn good play call.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_19]: I mean, there's nothing else really to say about that.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't know, man.
• 58:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: It just seems like a lot of the best guys on this team for as long as they've been on this bad team.
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_19]: When the big moments are there, they'd just sort of shut down.
• 59:03
  [SPEAKER_19]: You know, to me, you know, I'm not going to blame this all on Branson and the late hit.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, I wasn't religious, but I put more of it on JC Horne, you know, when we needed him to step up and be that number one corner today.
• 59:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: Chris O'Lawak hooked him.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: I want to.
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it's an interesting question.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: All right.
• 59:22
  [SPEAKER_16]: So we're asking what what do we think about the Latham ransom at the end price.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: Young hands on his head.
• 59:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: So we get gray matter 88817 who says at least where to go.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: He said at least ransom is hitting hard and actually playing like
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, I think this is that for some reason, I'm just curious, while we're not fucking more pissed at lathe and ransom because I'm not more pissed.
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm right in here, is it almost to me?
• 1:00:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think secretly that we don't want to admit this is that we felt like losing was an inevitable at that point.
• 1:00:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like I almost think that they were going to kick that field going win the game without that penalty.
• 1:00:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like I don't make the penalty ended up making it like I mean, but they were sitting there at a play before saying the guy was gonna kick it from the damn Other side of the field.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, it was like a 50 like I mean, yeah, it turned it into a 30-order or something like that as I That It just stuck but it was it just was the cherry on top to the suck
• 1:00:44
  [SPEAKER_19]: But like I said, all of the things that happened today, you know, we were competitive, but I felt like when the tide flipped through the scenes was on the fourth and one, they decided to go for it instead of kicking the field goal.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_19]: and then that that drive.
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_19]: Again, they went like 80 something yards or 60 something yards and eight players or whatever and it took like five minutes for them to just completely cash or a defense.
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm done with the soft ass's own coverage, especially late in the ball game.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, but it's like he was playing aggressive again.
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: You're saying he got smoke.
• 1:01:30
  [SPEAKER_19]: So I don't know it but I feel like partly it's because they put them in those zone coverage that doesn't allow them to just start playing aggressive.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: They have to mind their zone first.
• 1:01:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it comes to the front, but here, let's get all the super chats because I don't think we've gotten Jonathan Collins.
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, I think we got to go all the way.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: Where are we at?
• 1:01:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: Are we at 809?
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: So we have this one from Jonathan.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: This is a totally great thing.
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: Talk about Rico being bad at.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: I would say bad.
• 1:02:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: I would not say bad.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: What I would say is I think it's noticeable right here.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: Why players are so ready to get contracts?
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: Because your moments in the sun can be fleeting.
• 1:02:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think Rico's bad.
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_16]: I just don't think you had that like like it's just like he's not smoked and I don't think the Saints defense that I think that's another thing.
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's like I said all the Tuesday show they've had a top five NFL defense the past month.
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: So they're not.
• 1:02:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: And when he was killing it, they had bombs.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: They were in the bottom, but even still like the
• 1:02:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: It really hasn't been there.
• 1:02:50
  [SPEAKER_19]: He has not been the dominant version of Rico with that kind of next level burst that we saw earlier in the season.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_19]: I mean, maybe you want to chalk that up to so many different offensive line formations, you know, just different players rotating in and out.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: that we've had this year or no offensive line not creating the holes you remember those ones that we highlighted against Miami and you remember that one you put a meme up and there was a little bus driving through it you were in you were in union station trying to get to the damn train as quick as you could all right so we got
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, and then the one big return that we didn't get it and we ended up getting a flag and it was called back on the legal formation.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't have an illegal formation on a. I don't understand what that he does.
• 1:03:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: Uh, I don't know.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then the where flat of penalties, like, uh, uh, one of my favorite movies of all time is, um, boondock Saints and the Italian mobster guy, and he's like, you can't say that anymore.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's like, takes, taking all the fun out of the job.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: This is what penalties take all the fun out of football because they're calling penalties that ruined good place I had nothing to and I know that's why we're saying that the reference we're in the back for the chance to write Yeah, I tell you if anybody's got a team to be upset about it.
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's the damn new England Patriots the bills had the rest of their pocket today, but keep going
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_19]: Oh boy, and then James E. X. three says this game showed me its canaless canaless is so inconsistent and it reflects on the team.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: He has no experience and shows we got a wild fellows.
• 1:04:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: I thought he was I thought he was calling a good game.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think that I think it comes down to that in retrospect.
• 1:04:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think the fact that you can't get forth and answers, you want to put that on canalice, okay, take the points, it wins.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: But your ass is, we're talking about this team.
• 1:05:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's a run first through all this.
• 1:05:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: You can't just dog up and get the damn first down.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, I thought can Alice was really good today on changing out person now in a way that he was starting to see where plate.
• 1:05:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: All right.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: Here's one play this.
• 1:05:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: All right.
• 1:05:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: So you're going to find out you're going to find a couple of reasons to say can I was stuck today.
• 1:05:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: But I think it was third down, it was either third down or fourth down conversion, the past of Jimmy Horn Jr.
• 1:05:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think the fact that you had Jimmy Horn Jr out there on that play in a needed time where you needed a guy that was just going to sprint and get it, I thought to me that was a good example of good coaching or good offensive thinking.
• 1:05:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: So I don't think he like his could he can can now spend better.
• 1:05:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think this is turned the page on can now is by any means.
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think no, but it's that there have been a couple performances from canalice this year that it definitely leads you questioning his play calling and the decisions that he's made.
• 1:06:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: Do you think, yeah, okay, and to follow up on that, though.
• 1:06:19
  [SPEAKER_16]: Do you think that can Alice got away from the run today then or do you there's two ways to look at it and the panther stop run the ball they start passing a ball?
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: Did they stop running the ball because he wanted to pass the ball or did he not think that they were running the ball Effectively and they needed the pass the ball.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: There's two ways of looking at that same Decision and it won it's good.
• 1:06:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, neither way.
• 1:06:46
  [SPEAKER_16]: We didn't win so either it's bad But I at some point it was like why aren't we running the ball more?
• 1:06:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: even late in this game to try to get better down in distances.
• 1:06:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: Because that's where I'm really, because then you get a hold and call and all the sudden it's first in 23 or something.
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then you're automatically into this past.
• 1:07:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think just because you're tied or something like this, I wanted him to call some run plays, but then I was trying to think, is he not calling the run plays because we weren't running the ball effectively.
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, but that's sort of my, my thought process.
• 1:07:24
  [SPEAKER_19]: But remember when Dave Canalist was like, hey, we're going to run the ball, we're going to run the ball some more.
• 1:07:29
  [SPEAKER_19]: Even when the run is a working, we're going to run the ball some more.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like to me, I feel like after watching Canalist so many times, he gets disheartened and pushed away towards things when they stop working the way he wants them to.
• 1:07:45
  [SPEAKER_19]: Um, I was doing this all this during the 49ers game was also emblematic of the same thing.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: You know, but just didn't run the football enough, and then when he finally started to do so, you know, you had, uh, Ricardo Dattle, finally getting some some good carries, but yeah, he still didn't stick to the run.
• 1:08:07
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's like he only does things half-heartedly.
• 1:08:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: and he doesn't remain consistent towards one game plan that he espouses.
• 1:08:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think these are an interesting we're going right back into the calls, but I think this is an interesting set of comments right in a row to show like trying to figure out whatever
• 1:08:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: Canalist was scared to conservative.
• 1:08:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: Followed by comment.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: Why can't Jimmy?
• 1:08:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: get the go route one time.
• 1:08:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: And when Jimmy got that first down, which was a fourth down, I think, or a third, it was a critical down.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think the players knew it was fourth.
• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was fourth down and they just went there, usual hand to Rico on first down play.
• 1:08:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then you go to this.
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: The answer is Bryce and Dave are still not compatible, but you all won't acknowledge that until the defense is good enough for them to be the weak link.
• 1:09:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then you go to this one.
• 1:09:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: Canalist runs the ball when he needs the pass, but passes the ball when he needs the run.
• 1:09:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: He runs too much on first down.
• 1:09:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think he almost didn't run enough tonight.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think he got scared.
• 1:09:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, I don't want to say scary.
• 1:09:23
  [SPEAKER_16]: I just don't think he, I think he stopped believing it.
• 1:09:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think he was wrong for either.
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_19]: I do think that there is some truth to the fact that Dave canalists
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_19]: And I don't necessarily know what that is.
• 1:09:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: I feel like there are times when he wants to err the football and Bryce will make some good plays.
• 1:09:46
  [SPEAKER_19]: So then he's like, okay, let's continue to do it.
• 1:09:50
  [SPEAKER_19]: And then it backfires on him.
• 1:09:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: And then he's like, okay, let's run more.
• 1:09:54
  [SPEAKER_19]: But then when the run does a work, it's just going back to passing, and it's like you never fully commits to one thing.
• 1:10:01
  [SPEAKER_19]: Shout out to James.
• 1:10:02
  [SPEAKER_19]: This is a code you exactly can now.
• 1:10:05
  [SPEAKER_19]: This is can now as changes.
• 1:10:07
  [SPEAKER_19]: Love, see, three, pre-shade your bro.
• 1:10:10
  [SPEAKER_19]: I do think that there is a chemistry problem on this offense.
• 1:10:14
  [SPEAKER_19]: there really is.
• 1:10:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: When it comes to receivers being at the right place on the right time, I think there's too many unnecessary drops.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_19]: And like one of the earlier superchants said, Tony, I want to see Jailin Coker more involved with this team.
• 1:10:31
  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm sorry, his hands are the most dependable hands on this Panthers while receiving court.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_15]: But that's not a close.
• 1:10:40
  [SPEAKER_19]: The two times was nasty, bro is a real one and he is a weapon for this team and I feel like targeting him more on God of Habit Downs is probably the best thing to do at this point.
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_19]: hit that next super chat before we get to the Collins with another five appreciate Jonathan tonight big time super chance says we go over the last five games 77 rushes for 243 yards per carry he's getting the rushes not capitalizing.
• 1:11:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm sorry he's been bad.
• 1:11:19
  [SPEAKER_16]: All right, let's go to the hope deal.
• 1:11:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety, eight.
• 1:11:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let us know what you think about this loss.
• 1:11:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, Yahoo, where it falls with rank it, wherever you want to rank, but I think what we really need to start thinking about is how does this, what is it reveal about the team and more and more and more importantly, but importantly, Cody, we got to go back and figure out how the Panthers, like you said, they're not out of this.
• 1:11:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: And the parents are, if they teach you one thing, is that when you give up on them, it's time to believe in them.
• 1:11:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: And when it's time to believe in them, it's time to give up on them.
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let's get some hope from the hope dealer.
• 1:11:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: I hope he's, I need some hope.
• 1:11:58
  [SPEAKER_10]: She K Tony Dine, Cody Lack, the C3 Legion.
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_10]: It's the hope Della's second in.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: Well, is it not the most panther thing ever?
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_10]: After we sweep the Falcons, we just, we, we just, we don't know how to handle success at all.
• 1:12:23
  [SPEAKER_10]: It, it really is sad the way we lost this game.
• 1:12:26
  [SPEAKER_10]: And you know what, this is one, I'm not going to put this on coach canalice, I'm not going to put this on Bryson, not at all, this was a collective failure in discipline.
• 1:12:44
  [SPEAKER_10]: But even more than that, the other penalties in this game, y'all, we beat ourselves.
• 1:12:51
  [SPEAKER_10]: We beat ourselves.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_10]: I truly believe that we are better-tamed than the New Orleans Saints.
• 1:12:56
  [SPEAKER_10]: Even though they beat us twice, we beat ourselves in this game.
• 1:13:01
  [SPEAKER_10]: And that is, that's this, Harton.
• 1:13:04
  [SPEAKER_10]: I agree.
• 1:13:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: I agree.
• 1:13:06
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't agree, I don't agree.
• 1:13:07
  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't want to look at Bryce's eyes that he really wanted this one.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_10]: And you know what?
• 1:13:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: Why?
• 1:13:12
  [SPEAKER_10]: He said what he could.
• 1:13:13
  [SPEAKER_10]: He didn't make the mistakes.
• 1:13:15
  [SPEAKER_10]: He was consistent.
• 1:13:17
  [SPEAKER_10]: But you know, it just goes to show that when you have a young team, you have to grow.
• 1:13:24
  [SPEAKER_10]: And this team is still growing.
• 1:13:27
  [SPEAKER_10]: I'm still optimistic about the future, especially with that Jaylin Coker back there.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_10]: Jaylin Coker, I'm going to talk about him on Tuesday's call,
• 1:13:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: We need some hope, uh, all wrong is the Panthers, and isn't this has been the case all season.
• 1:13:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: This is you want to know who the Panthers are, Cody.
• 1:13:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: They're not ready.
• 1:13:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I'm going to say not ready for what to win.
• 1:14:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: But we do sometimes that's ready to win consistently and not ready that's not the right way to say when you say you're not ready that means that you don't have the tools and the things like that is they haven't found a way to go from a team that is got some talents but has some deficiencies they are not playing consistently better than they
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: above, above where they need to be and today the penalties showed that is somehow some guy in that they got the voodoo on them today.
• 1:14:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: They got the new Orleans Voodoo on them.
• 1:14:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: They let it set in.
• 1:14:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: And it felt like they, I won't say complacent.
• 1:14:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's not the right word.
• 1:14:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was like they were lulled into a trance today.
• 1:14:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: And it was, it was like this, is you take away a few of those penalties that were self-inflicted.
• 1:15:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: Some of them were just bullshit.
• 1:15:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: I say bullshit penalties too.
• 1:15:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: but they're gonna be bullshit penalties.
• 1:15:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: We just haven't found a way yet to overcome that.
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_19]: But it's the fact that we don't win close games.
• 1:15:20
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like, we could have won the New Orleans game.
• 1:15:23
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, do we only win the comeback wins?
• 1:15:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: But every Bryce Young has been a comeback.
• 1:15:27
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, but I'm saying, even games like the 49ers, games like both of the New Orleans games, like games where we are close enough to be in it.
• 1:15:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: you cannot consistently count on them to come away with the W and it's like we do the worst things at the worst times and I don't think that we're giving enough slack, we're not slack, we're enough worried to this defense, like Tony, I know I'm a broken record, I cannot get over
• 1:15:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: Everything that happened after that stuffed fourth and one but they're brown with the they're brown Hit the quarterback slide and nobody's up here complaining about that My dude.
• 1:16:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's that one drive that completely killed our team took away any moment of that we had and gave all the momentum in the world That to New Orleans
• 1:16:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: Well, all right, I guess another way to explain what I mean by not read it, found a way to overcome.
• 1:16:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think this is the Panthers.
• 1:16:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: They start out with a touchdown in the first quarter.
• 1:16:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: The Saints chew up 11 minutes of clock.
• 1:16:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: And the second quarter.
• 1:16:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: You come away with a field goal.
• 1:16:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: You know, they we kept it too close.
• 1:16:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: So like is like you're saying it, it's like is the margin for error just became too little.
• 1:17:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let's go back to the calls.
• 1:17:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: What's up, guys, uh, this is Matt and Greensboro, I don't know what was on that.
• 1:17:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know.
• 1:17:25
  [SPEAKER_05]: This fucking team is in fucking capable of playing good when they're supposed to play good.
• 1:17:33
  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah.
• 1:17:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like if you tell them they have no fucking chance to come out there and play their asshole.
• 1:17:41
  [SPEAKER_05]: This shit against the same team and credit.
• 1:17:44
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're probably better than the record.
• 1:17:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're fighting, you know, they have nothing to lose and they're playing like it.
• 1:17:50
  [SPEAKER_05]: Good on them.
• 1:17:51
  [SPEAKER_05]: But still.
• 1:17:53
  [SPEAKER_05]: You're up 17 to 7 and then you just say, I'm gonna give you the fucking game.
• 1:17:58
  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah.
• 1:17:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Wait.
• 1:18:00
  [SPEAKER_05]: What the fuck man?
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_26]: That's a terrible thing.
• 1:18:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: These are not over.
• 1:18:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: They've got a chance.
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_05]: This game was like, I'd rather go to a fucking dentist have a roof now, but no anesthetic than the ones that shit.
• 1:18:18
  [SPEAKER_05]: Watch the game on that.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_05]: That was so painful.
• 1:18:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: Good, I just don't even know having to answer his life.
• 1:18:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Right, I mean, he didn't play bad, he didn't play great, but I mean, if you want to put the blame, I guess the team, like these team wins, those are the team loss.
• 1:18:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's fucked up on three times for the game, all these fucking penalties.
• 1:18:45
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, some of them, yeah, they weren't great calls, but they got it.
• 1:18:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't help, then you get two penalties on the quarterback's pies.
• 1:18:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just say the fuck away they're gonna run out of time, like, I don't know, and T by, I mean, he needs to start making these big catches, these tough catches, he's supposed to be.
• 1:19:10
  [SPEAKER_26]: Yes, I agree.
• 1:19:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: You know, he's a great contested catch guy.
• 1:19:15
  [SPEAKER_05]: When the hell is he done that?
• 1:19:23
  [SPEAKER_05]: you're seeing things guys go up there and make catches with guys great all the hell over him tipping the ball of themselves we're all guys doing that like I don't know it's a good call it's so damn frustrating I'm just I can't hardly watch this team and expect any damn things of them we just got to go into it and hope the hell
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to show up next week, probably.
• 1:19:54
  [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it gets the first own game.
• 1:19:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: I guess they're still in it.
• 1:20:01
  [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, ma'am.
• 1:20:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see how it goes.
• 1:20:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: Keep pounding.
• 1:20:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see what happens.
• 1:20:06
  [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to keep pounding my head.
• 1:20:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I can fall into play with that.
• 1:20:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: I love this.
• 1:20:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: Call it name for me right there.
• 1:20:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, you're right, when is the, it's just like it's for, for teamwork is not, um, it's not like the highlight real yet, we're not getting the highlight real, where it's like the catch who not supposed to make he made it maybe early in the season, I felt like you got a couple of those, but he's right, that's say it's one where the gag gets blown.
• 1:20:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, our demons crushes this guy.
• 1:20:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's a great defense of play and somehow it bobbles the ball back to a maintained balance and gets a ball back and yeah, the balls behind the defense of player made a great play.
• 1:20:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: We're just not that we're not it's like those are the plays you make when you are great.
• 1:20:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I tell you, Cody, this is what it was said to me in the, and look, I put the card.
• 1:21:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: I was at put the card.
• 1:21:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: I started to envision a like a possible timeline of events.
• 1:21:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: And to me, I was like, man, the Panthers win this game against the Saints.
• 1:21:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: Then they win against the box.
• 1:21:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: all they did, but then they beat the seahawks at home, and it's like, that's why I'm saying, we aren't somebody you want to fuck with.
• 1:21:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: Dude, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:21:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: That's not outside of the realm of possibilities because we didn't win against this, but I'm saying like the playoffs, but imagine if we win one,
• 1:21:48
  [SPEAKER_16]: three, these three in a row, how you would have changed what your thoughts on about the playoffs.
• 1:21:55
  [SPEAKER_19]: If we could have won the last four games, the same champion, no, I know, but I'm saying if we could have won today, beat Tampa, BC Addle, and then finish off of the W, that completely changes.
• 1:22:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: How the Panthers reviewed going into the playoff,
• 1:22:15
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's like I said earlier, I'm mad at this team right now.
• 1:22:20
  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm mad at the officiating, I'm mad at the consistent inconsistency, but again, like after the wind with the rams, I think it was dirt brown or damp canala said that they still haven't seen our best ball yet.
• 1:22:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: And we've seen theirs.
• 1:22:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, telling me, I still don't know if we've
• 1:22:45
  [SPEAKER_19]: like they have an opportunity to rebound from this.
• 1:22:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't know what they feel for sure, but our season is not over.
• 1:22:55
  [SPEAKER_19]: I know everyone feels bad and I've seen a bunch of comments in the chat here tonight.
• 1:23:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: I appreciate everyone joining us that the painters don't deserve to win anything from the playoff, so we don't even deserve to be the playoff team, if we can't beat the sense.
• 1:23:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, the fact of the matter is the Tampa Bay Bookers don't look much better and they also lost in the sense.
• 1:23:20
  [SPEAKER_19]: So it's like right now, there's really not an NFC South team that looks worthy of being in the playoffs, including the Panthers, but everything we want is still out in front of us as inferiority and as that might sound, that is the truth.
• 1:23:38
  [SPEAKER_14]: All right, let's keep powering the calls.
• 1:23:50
  [SPEAKER_14]: like, oh, money to somebody, the ones or something.
• 1:23:52
  [SPEAKER_14]: This is the deepest, neat, shredded, shredded by a freaking, rookie, a freaking rookie man.
• 1:24:01
  [SPEAKER_15]: Twice.
• 1:24:05
  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
• 1:24:06
  [SPEAKER_15]: Next go.
• 1:24:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Pressing from here to here again, you know, and another thing.
• 1:24:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: And another thing.
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Rest, the ribs,
• 1:24:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: in that segment.
• 1:24:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: The referee's focus and that's the map.
• 1:24:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's okay.
• 1:24:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like the against the hit on this day, roughness on Chuck on random.
• 1:24:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was bullshit.
• 1:24:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: So, he cost already.
• 1:24:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: He killed the replay.
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: The man was still upright.
• 1:24:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: He was still upright.
• 1:24:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: He haven't yet.
• 1:24:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: He did not give himself a.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, I'm just, well, I still believe in this team, man.
• 1:24:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: I still believe in Coach Canales.
• 1:25:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: All is going to take now is, we're going to have to sweep the bus.
• 1:25:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
• 1:25:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to have to sweep them.
• 1:25:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: If we didn't win the game, then it was going to be easy.
• 1:25:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: All we had to do is win one of those two against the bus.
• 1:25:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Now we're going to have to sweep.
• 1:25:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's all it is to it.
• 1:25:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: We have no choice.
• 1:25:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: as I only weigh into the playoff, and I believe in this team, I just think that some other questions, I hate this.
• 1:25:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: I cannot stand the sense.
• 1:25:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: I can't stand the sense.
• 1:25:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: I still don't like fucking Sean Payton.
• 1:25:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's one of the fucker, his face makes him want to just punch him.
• 1:25:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: And he, he knew what he's with the fucking Broncos.
• 1:25:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't care, he'll always be the same fucking head coach, and he'll always piss me off every time I see him, he'll make me think of him the sense.
• 1:25:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I cannot stand the fucking sense.
• 1:25:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: I hate the
• 1:25:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's no reason for them to even be winning.
• 1:25:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Like, stuff, man.
• 1:25:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just didn't right now.
• 1:25:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not even, I'm just talking shit, but it's man, stuff to say.
• 1:25:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: So, uh, wait, this is, this is.
• 1:26:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: Fuck off my hair.
• 1:26:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: We know what the fuck we got to do now.
• 1:26:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: We got to, we got to tighten up.
• 1:26:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's what, I mean, for the rest of the season, no more losses.
• 1:26:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: It is, we need to be win, win, win, win.
• 1:26:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: We need to have victory throughout the rest of this season.
• 1:26:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's it.
• 1:26:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I cannot believe we lost to the fucking world.
• 1:26:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's what they say.
• 1:26:32
  [SPEAKER_09]: It's basically sweet.
• 1:26:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: So as far as the vision is saying, you go, the New Orleans Saints and Tyler fucking shut our better than us.
• 1:26:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's just fucking pathetic.
• 1:26:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I believe in my team though, we're going to make it to a playhouse board.
• 1:26:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's got beliefs, we got beliefs, you hear me telling me we got believed in it.
• 1:26:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
• 1:26:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
• 1:26:57
  [SPEAKER_15]: Next call.
• 1:26:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Go.
• 1:27:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my fucking guy, I made crash out a little bit.
• 1:27:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I made this fucking crash.
• 1:27:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is fucking ridiculous.
• 1:27:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: Crash out, Christian.
• 1:27:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 1:27:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is probably the worst called game I've seen from the refs against the Panthers all year.
• 1:27:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not one to blame Panthers or sorry, blame refs for shit.
• 1:27:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's always kind of somewhat balanced, but Jesus fucking Christ.
• 1:27:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the guy, if you watch the fucking itty foul, it can do shit.
• 1:27:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: How many times do we see fulcum linemen get employers faces?
• 1:27:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's the fuck?
• 1:27:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Kind of fucking call.
• 1:27:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: I Grab a little shit.
• 1:27:43
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, I doubt I'm a such bull shit.
• 1:27:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Rips literally had his like I don't think they had to call it I think it was the Pinotty, but I don't think they had to call it Speaking about throw it it before it can even cut the guy And then H.on Robinson like with the fucking dude
• 1:27:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: The fuck kind of call is that man that one was sucky.
• 1:28:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what the fuck we don't even get clarification on the broadcast here And then shall Smith wave with a fucking hold like are you That one kidding me another bullshit when right now.
• 1:28:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna fucking replay to show me that I know dude that guy didn't fucking do shit And then and then they don't even give the cash to Ted.
• 1:28:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
• 1:28:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I might need fucking clarification on this, but
• 1:28:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you need two hands to have possession?
• 1:28:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: No, you don't want to fuckers.
• 1:28:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying that was a man.
• 1:28:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't matter if he's, if it's ball touch in the ground, he clearly has fucking possession with one fucking hand.
• 1:28:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, the rest of the shit though.
• 1:28:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's obvious that the, dude, I, I just, okay, I need someone who is an exynos fucking expert to explain to me.
• 1:28:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why?
• 1:28:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: We always seem to fuck it like we, what is it, okay?
• 1:29:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh shit, let me let me just refresh your, this and I'm gonna call back.
• 1:29:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: But some people who like price what they see is okay, the great throw to the co-curve.
• 1:29:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, the scrambling, okay, do it, I'll be on his net.
• 1:29:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's, his pocket present has gotten a lot better.
• 1:29:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: But what I remember,
• 1:29:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: in stupid fucking easy throws to Tommy Tromboy thinking the first quarter where you just fucking miss him bro.
• 1:29:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: How do you do that?
• 1:29:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: How do you as an NFL quarterback?
• 1:29:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Number one overall pick.
• 1:29:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: But let's just throw that away.
• 1:29:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just you're starting in the NFL fucking hell.
• 1:29:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: How do you miss that throw?
• 1:29:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then you want to fuck, then I get on the fucking social media to see sheena quits fucking over there like talking about.
• 1:29:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that was a good throw.
• 1:29:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: The fucking Ted Mcmill and he just didn't catch a fuck up.
• 1:29:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: How is that a good throw?
• 1:30:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: It wasn't a good throw, but it wasn't the best throw.
• 1:30:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: It wasn't the best throw.
• 1:30:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: It wasn't a bad throw.
• 1:30:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was that shows you how the small, the margins are.
• 1:30:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: I do want to give a shout out.
• 1:30:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: It seems to be right at the same time that it wasn't a great throw, but I still think he should have called.
• 1:30:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yes.
• 1:30:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: And because it wasn't a great, the best throw.
• 1:30:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: is why the defense employer made a play.
• 1:30:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: I know everybody hates David Newton, but I'm gonna tell you why this is like why he is a goat of the internet.
• 1:30:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's like a Donald Trump of fucking X.
• 1:30:38
  [SPEAKER_16]: This is tweet.
• 1:30:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: St. Throkey Tyler shook outplay Panthers QB Bryce Young again, especially when it mattered.
• 1:30:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: We went five or six, 86 yards on passes, throwing 15 plus yards down field.
• 1:30:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: His most such completions in a game in his career.
• 1:30:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: He had three of those completions in the fourth quarter.
• 1:30:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: David Newton, a great villain of the internet.
• 1:31:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: Because,
• 1:31:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: That has nothing to do with fucking price young.
• 1:31:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: That doesn't do with the Panthers defense.
• 1:31:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: Way to stoke the fire, way to stoke.
• 1:31:13
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, the fire.
• 1:31:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let me see, let me make sure this is the same cool.
• 1:31:18
  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, my foot, there we go, next go.
• 1:31:21
  [SPEAKER_24]: Gentlemen, I'm going to use three choices.
• 1:31:23
  [SPEAKER_24]: What is the most annoying thing about this game today?
• 1:31:26
  [SPEAKER_24]: One that J.C. Horn is overpaid and can't cover.
• 1:31:32
  [SPEAKER_24]: And that's why I just hear from one on one.
• 1:31:34
  [SPEAKER_24]: Number two, Ikeek Wano can't pass block for shit.
• 1:31:36
  [SPEAKER_24]: It keeps getting shut back and in the quarterback.
• 1:31:39
  [SPEAKER_24]: Or three, the hearing of the Panthers were wearing these hoodie sweatshirts with these stupid ass dumb ass social justice messages that the professional athletes make and millions of dollars are up for rest.
• 1:31:54
  [SPEAKER_24]: What's the most annoying stupid thing up today?
• 1:31:57
  [SPEAKER_16]: I would say the referees.
• 1:31:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: most annoying are you know actually know the fact that the Panthers lost most annoying stupid thing at that list let's go to the next school.
• 1:32:11
  [SPEAKER_08]: Hey this is John O. in Atlanta.
• 1:32:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry and what's a game I just I don't even know where to begin but.
• 1:32:21
  [SPEAKER_08]: And I don't even know who picked the blame for the case because it wishes the defense was just.
• 1:32:30
  [SPEAKER_08]: I cannot understand if, because I mean, a lot of the penalties that we had were penalties, but it was just like so frequently every single drive, it was penalty after penalty after penalty.
• 1:32:42
  [SPEAKER_08]: If we just could not get off the field, I mean, they had a one drive that went 11 minutes.
• 1:32:48
  [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't even know you could hold the football for that long.
• 1:32:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: 11 minutes.
• 1:32:53
  [SPEAKER_08]: This bin don't break.
• 1:32:54
  [SPEAKER_08]: It does not work without pass rushers.
• 1:32:56
  [SPEAKER_08]: What are we doing, man?
• 1:32:58
  [SPEAKER_15]: That's it, sure.
• 1:32:59
  [SPEAKER_08]: How do you have a layup?
• 1:33:00
  [SPEAKER_08]: We're up 17 to 7 in the third quarter.
• 1:33:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: This is a layup game.
• 1:33:05
  [SPEAKER_08]: You're driving down the field, fourth and one in Bill Goreins, and you decided to run the exact same place as you ran earlier in the game.
• 1:33:12
  [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's not gonna know.
• 1:33:16
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not gonna be aware.
• 1:33:18
  [SPEAKER_08]: Why not at least use that formation to run a toss?
• 1:33:23
  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my gosh, this was, this was, this has to be one of the days where it's game.
• 1:33:28
  [SPEAKER_08]: This was really bad play calling in critical situation, really, really bad play calling.
• 1:33:35
  [SPEAKER_08]: We ran what six straight past play with two minutes and 30 seconds left in the game.
• 1:33:41
  [SPEAKER_08]: What in the world, Dave?
• 1:33:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: They basically just sit eight in the, seven in the covers and just sit back and relax and let their pass goes down to us.
• 1:33:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: Why would there, why would there no check-down, Dave?
• 1:33:55
  [SPEAKER_08]: What do we do in it?
• 1:33:56
  [SPEAKER_08]: If it's not like there's like 40 seconds left and you've got to make you down the field.
• 1:34:01
  [SPEAKER_08]: It's two minutes and 30 seconds left and we call it six, the seven straight past plays.
• 1:34:07
  [SPEAKER_08]: You have time to run the ball.
• 1:34:10
  [SPEAKER_08]: Gosh, man.
• 1:34:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 1:34:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: Man, this team has a lot of grown up to do.
• 1:34:17
  [SPEAKER_08]: All I can think is that there is no way you come out of the by your first end of the vision.
• 1:34:24
  [SPEAKER_08]: You have a chance to set yourself up to just need to win one more game, one game, and you have the book.
• 1:34:30
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can lose the host.
• 1:34:30
  [SPEAKER_08]: You can lose the host.
• 1:34:32
  [SPEAKER_08]: You think one game wins the book if you win the game to be in the playoffs.
• 1:34:37
  [SPEAKER_08]: I think we have not done in eight, seven years.
• 1:34:42
  [SPEAKER_08]: And instead of being prepared, instead of coming on top, instead of coming to get blood from these guys, I'm saying, embarrass you in your own house.
• 1:34:52
  [SPEAKER_08]: We come out, Lolly Gaggin.
• 1:34:54
  [SPEAKER_08]: We come out, drop and pass, and drop and touch down, team act, drop a wide open touch down.
• 1:34:58
  [SPEAKER_08]: I don't hear how far that ball was off target.
• 1:35:01
  [SPEAKER_08]: Hit him in the hands.
• 1:35:02
  [SPEAKER_08]: Hit him in the hands, right here.
• 1:35:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:35:05
  [SPEAKER_08]: Drop a touchdown.
• 1:35:06
  [SPEAKER_08]: That we desperately needed, apparently.
• 1:35:08
  [SPEAKER_08]: And then,
• 1:35:15
  [SPEAKER_15]: did it stop that that was it.
• 1:35:17
  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's go next week.
• 1:35:20
  [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, yeah, this is Marshall wrote a poem from Broadway, North Carolina.
• 1:35:25
  [SPEAKER_12]: Let me tell you something Tony Albina will be Goldberg done.
• 1:35:29
  [SPEAKER_12]: Nobody wants to see your damn polyshore hairs, much as they want to listen to my comments.
• 1:35:37
  [SPEAKER_12]: post another debacle courtesy of the cackle wacky panthers who shouldn't even be in the damn NFL.
• 1:35:46
  [SPEAKER_12]: And I believe y'all lost twice this year to then saints.
• 1:35:50
  [SPEAKER_12]: So I guess it's a food that Sunday for y'all.
• 1:35:55
  [SPEAKER_12]: And let me tell you something else before you cut me off again.
• 1:35:58
  [SPEAKER_12]: The
• 1:36:02
  [SPEAKER_12]: food stamp recipients and y'all fans who call into this shit every week to voice your frustration about why you're not winning football games.
• 1:36:14
  [SPEAKER_12]: You actually have the audacity to try and win a damn game when there shouldn't even be professional sports in the damn state.
• 1:36:23
  [SPEAKER_12]: So I'll be coming back at the end of the season however long I have to wait and y'all listen to the truth
• 1:36:31
  [SPEAKER_12]: at the end of yet another pointless and grew from the end to a panther's season and a bunch of welfare recipients like yourself can only await the suffering by.
• 1:36:47
  [SPEAKER_19]: Damn.
• 1:36:49
  [SPEAKER_19]: How did you really feel, bro?
• 1:36:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: If you're asked, because I'm
• 1:36:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's funny.
• 1:37:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh my god.
• 1:37:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's there.
• 1:37:02
  [SPEAKER_15]: We used to just buff the wood, buff the wood.
• 1:37:06
  [SPEAKER_15]: Next call.
• 1:37:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 1:37:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's Christian again.
• 1:37:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: No comment on this.
• 1:37:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: How is that a fucking group?
• 1:37:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, how are you going to blame on a team act, man?
• 1:37:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you fucking leave the receiver, it's a fucking touchdown.
• 1:37:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's little fucking things like that that hurt the game for us.
• 1:37:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now people are going to fucking shit on the defense and you can.
• 1:37:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: But at one point, we need to have a follow-up question.
• 1:37:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, shit on the fucking defense.
• 1:37:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck does the offense do, man?
• 1:37:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, and this is where I need an expert in X of the nose to help explain to me.
• 1:37:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why is it that we never have fucking like opportunities downfield with, like, what?
• 1:37:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: We have four, five fucking receivers out there, running fucking routes, and no one's ever fucking open.
• 1:37:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, what's weird to think fucking go?
• 1:38:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why is every fucking NFL team take the same, for example, able to see a receiver to throw two and complete.
• 1:38:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't understand it.
• 1:38:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I've a of the mind that everything's fucking put in like a fucking 20-yard, 25-yard little box
• 1:38:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just brysaint fucking thrown on it.
• 1:38:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we're trying to fit everything in the tight windows.
• 1:38:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: But this is insane how you just came off the by week.
• 1:38:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, you get all this fucking hype.
• 1:38:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: And there's something to fucking fight for and nothing's going well.
• 1:38:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know what, Chuba, I have a fucking issue with you.
• 1:38:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: You dumb fuck.
• 1:38:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you take that fucking ball and just run with the momentum of the offensive line, instead of cut it back, you get the fucking first down, you dumb fuck.
• 1:39:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
• 1:39:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 1:39:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: Back to fucking whatever the fuck this bullshit is.
• 1:39:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jesus.
• 1:39:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck.
• 1:39:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can't stop cursing.
• 1:39:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Ah man, you know what?
• 1:39:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, we just not ready, man.
• 1:39:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess, dude, I'm not trying to blame everything on Bryce, but I truly do, from the bottom of my heart, think that there's just limitations, and it prevents us from stretching the field, left, stretching the field.
• 1:39:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, if you don't believe me, just watch the fucking throws and just see how long it takes for the ball to get there.
• 1:39:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Come on, David, let's talk about that.
• 1:39:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: But there's no way to stop it sometimes when those clothes go for breakfast and he just Yeah, and I don't know if it's rice or the play Martian brother hey, buddy hey, buddy Say you're in bread, you know where your mom's your dad and your dad's your brother Hey, Martia I got to say one more or two of them
• 1:40:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: If it was his name, Marshall Redder.
• 1:40:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: That one more for you.
• 1:40:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: I've seen a lot of Camletas, but never on a camel.
• 1:40:19
  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh, these are all polyswork days, but they're all polyswork days.
• 1:40:24
  [SPEAKER_19]: I mean, dude, my thing is, it's like, at this point, like, I'm done fucking bitching about Bryce.
• 1:40:31
  [SPEAKER_19]: I spent so many of them.
• 1:40:33
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like, my, my, my, my, my point is, like, I don't feel like Bryce was the main issue today.
• 1:40:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: I feel like he, like, I feel like he made some plays that were, that were good enough to win us this football game.
• 1:40:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think where there's something to it's called more than anything else.
• 1:40:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think there's something the only thing to the point is I have no it's not a court as I go I'm not putting anything on this loss on Bryce it's like all right we're at the end of the game right now things are matter and it's like when do we get the one two three Bryce the the jailing coker when they were celebrating it
• 1:41:13
  [SPEAKER_16]: about how he threw it before he saw it, it's just like, why is it at the end?
• 1:41:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's not quick.
• 1:41:19
  [SPEAKER_16]: And you're shot to be in take.
• 1:41:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: And there's so many factors there.
• 1:41:22
  [SPEAKER_16]: We have to look at every, you know, thing.
• 1:41:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's just like, man, when is the time that's just take over time?
• 1:41:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: Take over time.
• 1:41:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: But I don't think this is the game really where that's the focal point.
• 1:41:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let's go to the next go.
• 1:41:37
  [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, this is John Owen.
• 1:41:38
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's interesting.
• 1:41:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry.
• 1:41:39
  [SPEAKER_08]: I guess I was talking for too long, but I just want to conclude with I'm just embarrassed.
• 1:41:44
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm embarrassed and I'm pissed.
• 1:41:46
  [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure after I got a six night off a better about it and I remember that we're still tied for the division we just got a beat the book twice.
• 1:41:53
  [SPEAKER_08]: Right?
• 1:41:53
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's the best of all right now.
• 1:41:54
  [SPEAKER_08]: I just beat the book twice.
• 1:41:56
  [SPEAKER_08]: You're in.
• 1:41:57
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 1:41:58
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 1:41:59
  [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody keep your heads up.
• 1:42:02
  [SPEAKER_08]: Don't as ruin your Christmas.
• 1:42:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: All right, hit that super.
• 1:42:06
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I always say we have a deep pounding deep pounding.
• 1:42:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, let me read some of these super chats, um, so we read Jonathan Collins is from near vosh said the bond casher said multiple times that if we won the game, we only needed one more win to win the division, almost like their jinxists are cursed us.
• 1:42:30
  [SPEAKER_19]: Jonathan Collins and again with another two bucks as I'm sorry, we can get a real play caller.
• 1:42:37
  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm sorry, can we get a real play caller in the all season?
• 1:42:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: And another one from Jonathan Collins says time and tremble four targets tied for first.
• 1:42:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, I don't I don't understand that there's not a lot of consistency when it comes to trying to get the ball to the hands of your best players.
• 1:42:57
  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, next call.
• 1:43:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, we're totally up to C3, this is what kills me, we can't win when we're favored and I don't understand why, I really don't, I mean those are the games you're favored for a reason, I don't know if it's coaching, I don't know the execution, I don't know if it's game playing, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if it's all of them, I don't know if
• 1:43:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: a lack of preparation or taking yourself to too serious and not not taking the other team serious enough.
• 1:43:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just don't understand, but I mean, I'm so fed up with this team losing games that we are supposed to win.
• 1:43:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't make up for every wing games where we're supposed to lose about 14 points.
• 1:43:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good teams beat teams that they're supposed to win.
• 1:43:39
  [SPEAKER_15]: So, I don't know.
• 1:43:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: And it's really just it's like I've got tight in trauma since Greg Olson to take me in Sanders.
• 1:43:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: You're supposed to be good this year.
• 1:43:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: You like this year.
• 1:43:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm not going to be on the team next year.
• 1:44:02
  [SPEAKER_19]: He has a lot of good dropping passes missing blocking assignments telling it doesn't agree just when against the 49ers where if you were to block the screen for
• 1:44:15
  [SPEAKER_19]: True, but he had a touchdown, but he has not been good.
• 1:44:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Mitchell Evans has been better than Jeteria and Sanders and she All right Man, we got three more calls Yo If it's your favorite book fan to buy this out of Phoenix Arizona what I'm talking I am happy my books are back in it.
• 1:44:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got a loss.
• 1:44:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time I was yelling at my TV why in the hell
• 1:44:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: is your DC going to a pre-vent late in the game.
• 1:44:48
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I don't know, brother.
• 1:44:49
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I wish I could tell you.
• 1:44:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, why don't press or hear what the thing is doing at the end of the game, just press you on it.
• 1:44:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't let the price just sit back there.
• 1:44:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the truth.
• 1:45:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: You guys lost this game for being just a plenton.
• 1:45:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just being objective here.
• 1:45:06
  [SPEAKER_15]: No, I agree.
• 1:45:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't penalty after dumb penalty.
• 1:45:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've remembered over the second of 23.
• 1:45:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: First down, the first touchdown held by dumb Panther penalties, the late games of dumb Panther penalties.
• 1:45:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And even at the end, quarterback slide, you have to bail.
• 1:45:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen the team get flagged twice for hitting a quarterback while you fly.
• 1:45:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: The same, I don't know they would even have time to spike that ball.
• 1:45:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would be a fun next three week
• 1:45:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm afraid it's played pretty well today, and I know people may try to test up for him, but he made good decisions today.
• 1:45:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't have to ball much, but I just think the dumb penalties killed you got today.
• 1:45:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I got a good one.
• 1:45:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: Great job, this is mine.
• 1:46:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's like arguably the color of the night.
• 1:46:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: Ta-re color of the night comes from a books fan and he ain't wrong.
• 1:46:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think if anything, I want to one is Derek Brown getting that penalty.
• 1:46:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like I have less of a problem with it because he's Derek Brown.
• 1:46:17
  [SPEAKER_16]: And he was like, no, no, I won't try to do it.
• 1:46:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: I do think there is something to a giant man trying to stop his momentum.
• 1:46:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, it's harder for him to like, it's a little bit late.
• 1:46:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: The ransom was trying to hit it like he, he just, he freaked out.
• 1:46:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: And not only was it a rookie mistake.
• 1:46:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it was, I think it's easy to say it was a rookie mistake.
• 1:46:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think everybody was caught off guard.
• 1:46:41
  [SPEAKER_16]: that they ran the ball up the middle with no time-outs or whatever they were going to do.
• 1:46:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: And that's where I am.
• 1:46:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: I am with the caller, it was Tobias, right?
• 1:46:50
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's like you almost let them run and ride him down until the clock is at nothing and see if they can spike it.
• 1:46:59
  [SPEAKER_19]: The thing that aggravates me most, and Tobias said it to, is the prevent defense.
• 1:47:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: Playing like we already won the game I'm telling you to me from the start of that fourth and one on that's going to be lost That's going to be lost this fucking game, man.
• 1:47:22
  [SPEAKER_18]: We got show the every game.
• 1:47:24
  [SPEAKER_19]: So yeah, that really do everything from the play call on fourth and one take the field goal
• 1:47:31
  [SPEAKER_19]: From then on the defense let the Saints march up the field.
• 1:47:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: There's just a little march up the field and it's embarrassing But again, man, like I'm trying to be a shred of optimistic We still control our own destiny
• 1:47:50
  [SPEAKER_19]: we just have to win out.
• 1:47:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, now it's like I really missed it.
• 1:47:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: How?
• 1:47:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: How is it?
• 1:47:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: Really?
• 1:47:56
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, to be the least wise, right?
• 1:47:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: Do you have, like, what are, and we'll talk about this on death.
• 1:48:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't want to get laws.
• 1:48:02
  [SPEAKER_19]: What do you think is that more realistic that they be thus twice?
• 1:48:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think that if we split, I don't think we're in.
• 1:48:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, then it's going to come down to like the strength of our record, isn't it?
• 1:48:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: No, I think it depends on what they do next week.
• 1:48:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like we have the sea hawks, they have no next record, but a temple.
• 1:48:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: Not right, but then the week after that.
• 1:48:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: So say we split.
• 1:48:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: Okay.
• 1:48:30
  [SPEAKER_16]: What happens against the sea hawks matters?
• 1:48:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: You know, so I mean, you're like, I think this is, I think it's, I think it's overly optimistic to think that we're going to sweep the bugs.
• 1:48:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think you have to sweet the books right now.
• 1:48:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think not have to.
• 1:48:49
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think sweeping and playing the dolphin when we play the.
• 1:48:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's my point right is like sweeping the books gets you into the playoffs.
• 1:48:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, it's still in your power, but it was in our power today to beat the Saints beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
• 1:49:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then who gives a shit what happened?
• 1:49:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: against the sea hooks and the bucks again, but now all those games matter, that's the point.
• 1:49:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: So is like, yes, it was in our destiny was in our hands today.
• 1:49:23
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was still in our hands tomorrow, but we made it less destinistic.
• 1:49:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm sorry.
• 1:49:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: I mean, it was just that you went this week.
• 1:49:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: You went next week.
• 1:49:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: You fucking didn't lose two in a row.
• 1:49:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: Who gives a foot?
• 1:49:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: Or you could have won.
• 1:49:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's also like winning it before the 16 is also too easy.
• 1:49:46
  [SPEAKER_19]: And that's not the Panthers way.
• 1:49:48
  [SPEAKER_17]: That's not the Panthers way.
• 1:49:50
  [SPEAKER_17]: That's not a way.
• 1:49:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: That's not a way to do.
• 1:49:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: Okay.
• 1:49:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: Well, the good news though is the Panthers are on a win every
• 1:50:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: because we'll win next week, then we'll lose to the C-hawks and then we'll win to the buck.
• 1:50:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: That's right, I saw a camera said that on 20.
• 1:50:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, but no, I don't think there's nothing good.
• 1:50:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: But yes, is that you still have some power, but you had power in your hands today, and you squandered it.
• 1:50:24
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let's go to the next goal.
• 1:50:27
  [SPEAKER_20]: Oh, what a disaster.
• 1:50:32
  [SPEAKER_20]: I mean, what other ZASTER is this one is on coaching, 100%, another defense, they could do better,
• 1:51:01
  [SPEAKER_20]: terrible.
• 1:51:02
  [SPEAKER_16]: Dude, they were saying just that, that, that, that, that shook, it's going to throw at J.C. Now I'm just respectful with that.
• 1:51:08
  [SPEAKER_20]: Now.
• 1:51:08
  [SPEAKER_20]: Yes.
• 1:51:12
  [SPEAKER_20]: There's a, I don't know.
• 1:51:15
  [SPEAKER_20]: He's just in love with Bryce.
• 1:51:17
  [SPEAKER_20]: And he wants to, those balls.
• 1:51:21
  [SPEAKER_20]: We had the ball with what 30 less than 30 minutes left in the game.
• 1:51:26
  [SPEAKER_20]: And did they run it?
• 1:51:28
  [SPEAKER_20]: at all, they didn't, like, why?
• 1:51:33
  [SPEAKER_20]: Why didn't you run the bottle, he had to turn that off, also.
• 1:51:40
  [SPEAKER_20]: It's, he, it's a person thing for me, like I, I don't know.
• 1:51:50
  [SPEAKER_20]: I mean, I'm, I'm with,
• 1:51:54
  [SPEAKER_20]: him as a coach.
• 1:51:55
  [SPEAKER_20]: You know, I think here's what I think is that I think it's a good motivational person, you know, to motivate the team and all, but somebody has got to yank that playbook from his ass.
• 1:52:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: That I disagree with.
• 1:52:11
  [SPEAKER_20]: I don't think he can do both.
• 1:52:14
  [SPEAKER_20]: He cannot do both.
• 1:52:17
  [SPEAKER_20]: It was so clear what we
• 1:52:22
  [SPEAKER_20]: And you could not figure out how to do it.
• 1:52:26
  [SPEAKER_20]: Anyway, it's so frustrating.
• 1:52:29
  [SPEAKER_20]: Thanks for sharing that.
• 1:52:31
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• 1:52:34
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• 1:52:35
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• 1:52:37
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• 1:52:39
  [SPEAKER_20]: Good job.
• 1:52:40
  [SPEAKER_20]: Yeah.
• 1:52:41
  [SPEAKER_20]: this point with this one.
• 1:52:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: Thank you.
• 1:52:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: Cody, follow this call down for Tuesday night for something to talk about, like as we don't want to just do another post game show, but also reflect and think about the team.
• 1:52:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: I, I, what I want us to think about as this is,
• 1:53:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: At what point do you get tired of happy smiley Dave Canales, whether it's play calling him as a coach, this and that is like, yeah, he's had moments where he hasn't, like he needed to be better.
• 1:53:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like we can talk about price young, we can talk about Jayceo, we talk about everybody, it needs to be better.
• 1:53:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: There have been several moments that we have had legitimate conversations about Dave Canales.
• 1:53:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think this team is getting worse though, and I really am, I'm strong on this.
• 1:53:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think that that changes things for the better, and you said something I think two weeks ago, or you said, that's why we have an offensive coach to call the plays.
• 1:53:54
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like, then why do we even have him?
• 1:53:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, I don't think that.
• 1:53:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: I just don't think it's a grieges.
• 1:53:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think that he needs to shoulder responsibility.
• 1:54:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: But we'll, we need to investigate that.
• 1:54:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: What's the right model going forward?
• 1:54:13
  [SPEAKER_19]: Is it?
• 1:54:14
  [SPEAKER_19]: But Dave, I don't think it's a bad coach.
• 1:54:20
  [SPEAKER_19]: But I think he's a bad play caller.
• 1:54:23
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't think so.
• 1:54:26
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, I think that there's, here's the dude.
• 1:54:28
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't think he's a bad play caller, but I do think when it comes to being the leader of a team and making sure that your team is as prepared as they need to be, I find him lacking.
• 1:54:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: I find him lacking.
• 1:54:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: I feel like the moment when you need to make sure that you're the most
• 1:54:47
  [SPEAKER_19]: razor sharp and prepared that you've ever been going into that Monday night game against the 49ers and beating the New Orleans sense.
• 1:54:56
  [SPEAKER_19]: They are the bottom of our division.
• 1:54:58
  [SPEAKER_19]: We had a chance to run away with this ship.
• 1:55:02
  [SPEAKER_19]: Now we're battling for our lives at the end of the season to desperately try to be Tampa Bay.
• 1:55:08
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think there is a preparedness issue.
• 1:55:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: Also, Tony, did you see the interview that Todd Bowles gave after they lost to Atlanta and just dropping like a thousand F-bonds?
• 1:55:21
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yes, but no, don't act like that, all right.
• 1:55:23
  [SPEAKER_19]: One, that passion.
• 1:55:25
  [SPEAKER_19]: No, I was someone who cares that fucking much to go up there and say fucking played light star of shit and we need to fucking act like we're carrying off to want to go out and win.
• 1:55:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: You will never ever see something like that from Dave Janellus.
• 1:55:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: your out of your mind shout out to new member c3 superfan j gs blue was up blue to two thank you for being a c3 superfan for dollar ninety nine a month many hands make for great work
• 1:56:00
  [SPEAKER_16]: But you're out of your mind, Cody, on that.
• 1:56:02
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's like the worst.
• 1:56:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: That's the worst analogy because if you did watch that press conference, he's like, I hate everybody on the team.
• 1:56:09
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's one of the luckers don't do what they want.
• 1:56:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like he, he, his happy angry and sad are all the same.
• 1:56:17
  [SPEAKER_19]: He's out there on the tone is different than he and displaying the type of emotion to say he had no clue I'd like to fucking care about winning a fucking football game Well, here is a great
• 1:56:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: thing to think about is what would the Dave Canales melt down be like, if it is Todd Bowles going, these motherfuckers, I had the mother right there.
• 1:56:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's his best, but these guys are so great, they're the best players I've ever played, they're executed, they did everything.
• 1:56:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: These motherfuckers are, they did not execute.
• 1:56:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: It was his happy inside or the same fucking thing, his meltdown and his happiness or the same thing.
• 1:56:59
  [SPEAKER_16]: What is Dave Canales?
• 1:57:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: What would his meltdown
• 1:57:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: This was a real pile of shit, but there's some good smells in that stink we can build off happy smiley Dave can If you're going to be that way, you have to win.
• 1:57:17
  [SPEAKER_19]: You have to win a lot more than we do like I would say that I don't know.
• 1:57:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think that was worth the analogy to say you want more out of Dave can Alice though.
• 1:57:26
  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm making the point that you will never see that kind of emotion of being that frustrated with the underperforming of this team.
• 1:57:36
  [SPEAKER_19]: You're not going to see that from Dame Canalist.
• 1:57:38
  [SPEAKER_19]: There was nowhere most to the top floor.
• 1:57:41
  [SPEAKER_19]: You were just dropping the jump like said just girls.
• 1:57:44
  [SPEAKER_16]: Like you kids, you fucking disappoint me.
• 1:57:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: I love you dude.
• 1:57:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: Sometimes I do did your homework.
• 1:57:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: You're so great.
• 1:57:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: You kids.
• 1:57:53
  [SPEAKER_19]: Sometimes instead of it being how you stay It's what you say those were strong words Like other somehow you said those words.
• 1:58:03
  [SPEAKER_19]: If you're gonna know I would say the shanmit, right?
• 1:58:06
  [SPEAKER_19]: Is similar and demeanor to a day can now us, but shanmit very wins football games
• 1:58:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: So yeah, I understand that it's gonna.
• 1:58:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's already got no really quick to a lot of people on the scene JJ McCarthy is gonna make the whole internet explode after the way he walked into the end of the end tonight We got two more cars.
• 1:58:28
  [SPEAKER_26]: Let's go What a boy.
• 1:58:31
  [SPEAKER_26]: It's vague is a droo I mean the same thing is usual.
• 1:58:35
  [SPEAKER_26]: You know, I feel like it's just mid-brace
• 1:58:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Team Bryce, like I said, he's stable boy Bryce, he's just there to put up 150 yards passing.
• 1:58:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did throw like, man, he gave me a glimmer of hope, that's what this team feels back on this season, you know, in our lives, it'll be, oh yeah, we had hope, it's like he throws
• 1:59:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hear you guys saying, oh, you know, we had drops from this guy.
• 1:59:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: This guy, the only real drop is that one that was possible that touched down to take the test.
• 1:59:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I didn't want to get to see that replay.
• 1:59:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not 100% of sure, but he's had and dropped it.
• 1:59:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to call that a drop.
• 1:59:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know, that when he threw in the dirt, like, well, that look like a catch, but it's not a catch.
• 1:59:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, get that ball elevated or the one breads
• 1:59:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's got a catch that's though, yes, but you put the ball in front of him.
• 1:59:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He runs for an extra 10, 15 yards.
• 1:59:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You throw away behind him.
• 1:59:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do not have that athletic.
• 1:59:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can't make that play.
• 1:59:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: That best he catches and falls down.
• 1:59:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's still should catch it.
• 1:59:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: But dude, you got to get when your weapons that you're throwing to on the best, you got to put the ball in a good spot.
• 2:00:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: behind a inflexible tight end is not a good spot.
• 2:00:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't even know how we can put you that flutter pass.
• 2:00:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, well, man, I have a rough day.
• 2:00:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was you Excel, but that last drive is just the microcosm.
• 2:00:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Excel is a non-racking this whole season.
• 2:00:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have it.
• 2:00:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's right.
• 2:00:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: The right one of us, I mean, mistakes throughout the whole game,
• 2:00:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: but hold hands in front of us, it's tied, we got two minutes, two and a half minutes left.
• 2:00:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, don't keep that sack.
• 2:00:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't get it.
• 2:00:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Throw the ball away.
• 2:00:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So at least throw, get a running back there.
• 2:00:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Throwing the dirt in front of you.
• 2:00:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: He just does dumb shit whenever there's like, don't chance to go out and win it.
• 2:00:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then someone will say, always go to the living wins.
• 2:00:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Game winning drives is like, yeah, it's because he had crappy differences,
• 2:01:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: good enough to both teams up.
• 2:01:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just a mid average of dude.
• 2:01:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if he likes other teams hanging around, even when he has these amazing games, 400 yards, if he blow that team out, you know.
• 2:01:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just not.
• 2:01:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready for him to be done.
• 2:01:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I send him is that.
• 2:01:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll probably lose next week.
• 2:01:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's a that's a Bryce Young Kader, but that's consistent.
• 2:01:29
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, we got two calls left and going back.
• 2:01:32
  [SPEAKER_16]: One, though, was from six o'clock.
• 2:01:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: This was Luz first call.
• 2:01:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: I played a second call.
• 2:01:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: I didn't play this one because it was so early.
• 2:01:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: Let's see what he said.
• 2:01:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: Tony Donberg.
• 2:01:40
  [SPEAKER_07]: Tony Donberg.
• 2:01:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's your time, original who it is.
• 2:01:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, might have to turn me down for this.
• 2:01:46
  [SPEAKER_07]: But that was fucking cold guard.
• 2:01:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: There's a wide receiver, one you're talking about.
• 2:01:59
  [SPEAKER_07]: No cause you may.
• 2:02:00
  [SPEAKER_07]: That was the fuck I was back.
• 2:02:04
  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh.
• 2:02:07
  [SPEAKER_07]: Man, I'm tired of this, bro.
• 2:02:10
  [SPEAKER_07]: Damn, Coker, you should have this performance every week.
• 2:02:14
  [SPEAKER_07]: Number one target.
• 2:02:15
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's what you need to be doing.
• 2:02:17
  [SPEAKER_07]: Fucking 20 targets again.
• 2:02:19
  [SPEAKER_19]: I agree.
• 2:02:19
  [SPEAKER_19]: So the ball fucking every play of Coker's role like every time.
• 2:02:23
  [SPEAKER_07]: Life on the line I'm taking jail and Coker were fucking tomorrow.
• 2:02:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: T. Bro.
• 2:02:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh my god.
• 2:02:29
  [SPEAKER_07]: Good morning.
• 2:02:30
  [SPEAKER_15]: Crazy.
• 2:02:31
  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
• 2:02:32
  [SPEAKER_15]: Thanks, Luke.
• 2:02:33
  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
• 2:02:33
  [SPEAKER_15]: Here's Final Call tonight.
• 2:02:35
  [SPEAKER_15]: There we go.
• 2:02:36
  [SPEAKER_23]: Okay.
• 2:02:36
  [SPEAKER_23]: I wasn't going to call, but I'm going to.
• 2:02:41
  [SPEAKER_23]: apparently don't see the game the way I do or maybe they don't see the game at all maybe they watch it.
• 2:02:46
  [SPEAKER_23]: I fucking don't know.
• 2:02:47
  [SPEAKER_15]: Are you feeling pitless?
• 2:02:49
  [SPEAKER_23]: It convinced me that this game was one and then lost on Bryce Young shoulders.
• 2:02:53
  [SPEAKER_15]: No, I don't think anybody really said that.
• 2:02:56
  [SPEAKER_23]: Okay, if you've been talking to that because it satisfies your personal narrative, then you are an ignorant motherfucker.
• 2:03:05
  [SPEAKER_23]: Okay, that's just some fact of it.
• 2:03:08
  [SPEAKER_23]: you don't like it suck it up buttercup or shut the fuck up and don't matter I don't think that's been the narrative of the pickle this game was lost because the Saints stopped our runs and pressure the quarterback the defense couldn't stop the Saints yep the head coach didn't have a clue on how to do anything after the
• 2:03:37
  [SPEAKER_23]: because the offensive line didn't make a bit of pulse.
• 2:03:40
  [SPEAKER_23]: This is purely factual.
• 2:03:42
  [SPEAKER_23]: This is not a real reaction.
• 2:03:44
  [SPEAKER_23]: You can blame the offensive line.
• 2:03:45
  [SPEAKER_23]: You can blame the quarterback for not opening up the whole himself.
• 2:03:49
  [SPEAKER_23]: I mean, what the fuck was he supposed to do?
• 2:03:51
  [SPEAKER_23]: The T-Mac touch was a little bit on both to be flexibly honest.
• 2:03:56
  [SPEAKER_23]: If Bryce was through that ball just as smidgen toward the outside, yeah, T-Mac might have caught it.
• 2:04:03
  [SPEAKER_23]: But T-Mac was drafted very high in the draft.
• 2:04:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: Okay, I think that's about the defense, though, the defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:13
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:15
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:16
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:19
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:21
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:22
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:23
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:25
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:29
  [SPEAKER_15]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:31
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:33
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:34
  [SPEAKER_23]: The defense of player made a better play because of that.
• 2:04:36
  [SPEAKER_23]: But we should not have been in that situation for ransom to have to make that kind of play.
• 2:04:41
  [SPEAKER_23]: The fact that we were is an indictment on e-girl e-girls' ignorant defense than anything else.
• 2:04:51
  [SPEAKER_23]: If you can't win consistently, you're not in real NFL-made coach.
• 2:04:57
  [SPEAKER_23]: And yeah, maybe the pants is don't belong in the playoffs, because we don't know how to win the system.
• 2:05:02
  [SPEAKER_16]: Now, we win this game.
• 2:05:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: Thank you.
• 2:05:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: You're not the real hard.
• 2:05:05
  [SPEAKER_23]: For the bumps.
• 2:05:06
  [SPEAKER_23]: You look and see what we can do.
• 2:05:07
  [SPEAKER_23]: The French was speaking.
• 2:05:09
  [SPEAKER_23]: Yeah.
• 2:05:10
  [SPEAKER_23]: There are a lot smarter coaches in the NFL though.
• 2:05:12
  [SPEAKER_23]: We have on this Panther staff.
• 2:05:15
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't like it.
• 2:05:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: I don't know.
• 2:05:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: the more the more that this is a problem, people are gonna find someone to blame.
• 2:05:25
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, let
• 2:05:43
  [SPEAKER_19]: But remember when we were talking about if the players are consistent like going out there and they're underperforming.
• 2:05:50
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, then how is that not on the coaches to a certain degree?
• 2:05:53
  [SPEAKER_19]: It is.
• 2:05:54
  [SPEAKER_19]: If you have to say that their job is to prepare them throughout the week and they're not prepared, then some of that onus doesn't go on, can I?
• 2:06:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: So that's much down for the feedback and bright.
• 2:06:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's not on anybody.
• 2:06:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's on the coaches because they didn't execute.
• 2:06:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, no, I've heard execution comes down to players.
• 2:06:13
  [SPEAKER_19]: Right, it's preparedness versus execution.
• 2:06:17
  [SPEAKER_19]: There is there the same level of preparedness versus the same level of execution.
• 2:06:23
  [SPEAKER_19]: So for example, I don't think that they executed well on that drop pass in the end zone to T-Mac.
• 2:06:30
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think that was all it, it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all it's all
• 2:06:45
  [SPEAKER_19]: You know, but then, but then your baby can now this is fall clearly now you're saying that you're called a different play.
• 2:06:52
  [SPEAKER_19]: Totally now you're saying that nothing has damn can now this is fault.
• 2:06:55
  [SPEAKER_19]: It can't be damn can now this is fault.
• 2:06:56
  [SPEAKER_19]: I think because the players are doing it, it's a second year.
• 2:07:00
  [SPEAKER_19]: Like you said, you said, deserve fault.
• 2:07:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: You said that people want to find someone to blame.
• 2:07:08
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I think that's an easy thing to do.
• 2:07:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: So it's like, oh, the defense just gave up all this shit.
• 2:07:15
  [SPEAKER_16]: So it's ever, this defense did this.
• 2:07:18
  [SPEAKER_16]: This, like, it's all that everybody is accountable.
• 2:07:23
  [SPEAKER_16]: And no one is the sole issue.
• 2:07:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I don't think that
• 2:07:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: If we had a different head coach right now, that it would be that much better or something.
• 2:07:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm sorry.
• 2:07:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: I just don't think that the penalty, you know, like, oh, they're not prepared enough.
• 2:07:40
  [SPEAKER_16]: So Derek Brown fucking blasted Tyler shook that ever, what a fucking he didn't prepare him enough.
• 2:07:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think that everyone has to be better.
• 2:07:49
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think the point, but, um, you can control the right player.
• 2:07:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: I just, I think it's an easy out to just say, oh, who is a didn't execute, because it's an easy out.
• 2:08:03
  [SPEAKER_19]: Right, but okay, then what, then if, if your team is not playing up to par,
• 2:08:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: Then you can say that there's multiple reasons why the players are not doing what they're supposed to be doing.
• 2:08:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: There's a bunch of mistakes, which I always said, if you have a heavy penalized team, that has to be on coaching.
• 2:08:24
  [SPEAKER_19]: You have to instill that during the week.
• 2:08:27
  [SPEAKER_19]: that they're not jumping off size, that they're not lined up at the wrong time, and then also like, do we not give any blame to a zero of arrow for our defense just looking completely out of source and giving up 82 yards in the fourth corner like that's also unacceptable.
• 2:08:48
  [SPEAKER_19]: There's plenty of enough blame to go around, but the point that I was making is that everyone is going to pick someone to blame, if it's fair or not fair, Bryce is going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going to get blame, if it's going
• 2:09:05
  [SPEAKER_19]: Jason Horn, for not locking up a lobby, it's gonna get blamed.
• 2:09:11
  [SPEAKER_19]: Derek Brown, for smackin' Tyler Schuck, is gonna get blamed.
• 2:09:16
  [SPEAKER_19]: There is plenty of blame to go around, but I will say, as a head coach, coming off of two weeks of preparation, and you go into the Super Dome, after already looking terrible,
• 2:09:34
  [SPEAKER_19]: And again, when you're kind of one, I'm sorry, Dave Canalis is not really a fault in this matter.
• 2:09:42
  [SPEAKER_19]: It's just isn't.
• 2:09:43
  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh, it shouldn't be rid of it.
• 2:09:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: It shouldn't be rid of fault.
• 2:09:47
  [SPEAKER_16]: There you know, I guess the round out your point.
• 2:09:51
  [SPEAKER_16]: And then let's finish up the show with our
• 2:10:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: is that if when you talk about like, I don't think coaches can make players execute, but what I do think is if there was something today that either ever wrote or can Alice Nick could have found, I don't know how, I don't know what this magic ingredient is of how to do it, is that is how to create the spark, or quail the nerve, like
• 2:10:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: You know, the fucking the fourth down didn't like an all fell apart after that, right?
• 2:10:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: Is that the great coach may be fine to weigh to get to help the team to not fall apart, mentally, execution, play calling.
• 2:10:52
  [SPEAKER_16]: So, um, I just don't know.
• 2:10:55
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's like, last week we're sitting here talking about
• 2:11:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: But they're not good.
• 2:11:02
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's like, you know what, is they didn't have their best day and JC warned it and have his best day and the raft didn't have their best day.
• 2:11:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: I'm not, it's not an excuse.
• 2:11:12
  [SPEAKER_16]: I just don't think it's like, these fuckers are terrible.
• 2:11:17
  [SPEAKER_19]: Um, if he is one like, if he had one like four, five games, yeah, maybe it's fireable.
• 2:11:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: One plate goes different.
• 2:11:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: You win this 20 to 17 Cody, you're talking about resilience, you're talking about resiliency.
• 2:11:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.
• 2:11:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: I was on the narrative is completely different.
• 2:11:36
  [SPEAKER_16]: So you know what?
• 2:11:37
  [SPEAKER_16]: Is I'm disappointed and I'm saying that Dave can now is disappointed.
• 2:11:42
  [SPEAKER_16]: I showed the video of a giro ever a walking off.
• 2:11:45
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think he was mad at himself more than anybody.
• 2:11:48
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's disappointed.
• 2:11:49
  [SPEAKER_19]: You don't think he walked out there saying, oh, he fucking should be disappointed at himself.
• 2:11:56
  [SPEAKER_19]: My thing is this, they are, they are contending for the playoffs.
• 2:12:01
  [SPEAKER_19]: We are getting better year after year.
• 2:12:03
  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah, it's not a fireable offense yet.
• 2:12:06
  [SPEAKER_19]: However, if we're going to next season and we're still looking at the same team that doesn't know who they want to be, then people are going to be like, yeah, I told you so.
• 2:12:18
  [SPEAKER_19]: Sure, that's a wrong move.
• 2:12:20
  [SPEAKER_19]: Whatever.
• 2:12:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: I am a Canalist needs one more year for sure to me.
• 2:12:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think it helps your team fire in him right now or this year.
• 2:12:31
  [SPEAKER_16]: I don't think it's even close.
• 2:12:33
  [SPEAKER_16]: All right, those are the calls.
• 2:12:34
  [SPEAKER_16]: This has been the C3 Panthers podcast post game show, but we're not finished yet.
• 2:12:39
  [SPEAKER_16]: as we have to give out our talashame which we're we took we pick a player basically our ice up with a player award and our dv dot o aka dab on on player the game award i'm a start let's start with talashame the talashame to me goes i'm a good chalism at the way
• 2:13:01
  [SPEAKER_16]: And this guy make some fucking plays.
• 2:13:03
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's a good player.
• 2:13:04
  [SPEAKER_16]: I like him.
• 2:13:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: I like him.
• 2:13:06
  [SPEAKER_16]: He's a good player.
• 2:13:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: And I think he's going to get better.
• 2:13:10
  [SPEAKER_16]: He got stuck.
• 2:13:11
  [SPEAKER_16]: He got fucked with that one pass interference call bullshit bullshit, but the line and up off sides.
• 2:13:20
  [SPEAKER_16]: on that field goal with them.
• 2:13:23
  [SPEAKER_16]: Fucking kill killer.
• 2:13:25
  [SPEAKER_16]: I think it was a field goal.
• 2:13:26
  [SPEAKER_16]: I was either a partner or a few of them.
• 2:13:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: It's just killers.
• 2:13:28
  [SPEAKER_16]: So Chalsmith Wade had a had some good plays, but also got some tough moments in this game.
• 2:13:35
  [SPEAKER_16]: So my Talish name goes to Chalsmith Wade.
• 2:13:39
  [SPEAKER_19]: My Talish name goes to one JC Horn.
• 2:13:43
  [SPEAKER_19]: Man, I've been a big defender of you for a long time, but, you know, even against the Saints the first time, I could say, all right, you know, he had some bad slip-ups, but today he had an opportunity to really turn the way of this game in a different direction.
• 2:14:03
  [SPEAKER_19]: And it didn't happen, man.
• 2:14:07
  [SPEAKER_19]: He
• 2:14:09
  [SPEAKER_19]: And a moment when we really needed him to step up.
• 2:14:12
  [SPEAKER_19]: So yeah, I'm going to see her tell her shame.
• 2:14:16
  [SPEAKER_16]: Our dab on him, AKA, David out of ball out of ward.
• 2:14:21
  [SPEAKER_16]: And how do you find someone who balled out here?
• 2:14:24
  [SPEAKER_19]: Oh, by the season, I've got one.
• 2:14:26
  [SPEAKER_19]: You want me to go first?
• 2:14:27
  [SPEAKER_16]: You're going to do Bryce.
• 2:14:28
  [SPEAKER_19]: Jaylin fucking co-cur boy.
• 2:14:31
  [SPEAKER_19]: Dylan Coker drops nothing and I genuinely believe that Dave Canales needs to make it a point to get the ball into his hands even more.
• 2:14:46
  [SPEAKER_19]: We need to target Dylan Coker way more than we do way more.
• 2:14:53
  [SPEAKER_16]: Mine's going to go to look, I'll give it to Bryce.
• 2:14:58
  [SPEAKER_16]: Um, in one way, just because I don't want people to think that I don't celebrate him.
• 2:15:05
  [SPEAKER_16]: I like, man, mine goes to Christian Rose boom today.
• 2:15:07
  [SPEAKER_16]: This guy, though, is for all this shit he caught early on.
• 2:15:14
  [SPEAKER_16]: Pazillion tackles he makes a difference.
• 2:15:17
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• 2:16:14
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