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The Business Lebowski: Deals, Drinks & Deep Conversations · None of Your Business Podcast

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  Remember Eric Trump when he came to ECAP and he was the keynote
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  speaker? First thing he gets up there,
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  he's like, all right, you guys probably all know me as the
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  Shabbos girl. Did he say that?
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  I didn't know that. Yeah, he said that Ivanka Trump,
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  anytime she needs to go up an elevator on Shabbos, she has him
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  push the button. You know your business or she.
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  None of your business, Michael. It's the None of Your Business
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  podcast hosted by Michael Anoshi.
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  Welcome back everybody, to another amazing new episode of
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  the None of Your Business Podcast.
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  I'm your host, Michael Greenfield, joined by Oshie
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  Schwartz and we are sponsored by our production team, Prime
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  Source and proudly sponsored by Serenity Health Center in
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  Rockland County. Today we're doing something a
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  little bit unique for those of you watching.
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  By the way, 20% of our viewership right now is watching
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  us on video. The rest are on like Apple,
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  Spotify, etcetera. So they don't see this, but we
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  have new chairs, a new coffee table, the candle is back.
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  I'm very excited about that. And we're joined by not so much
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  a guest, sorry Scott, I love you.
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  We could talk about you all day, but a Co host and the point of
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  today is to really just talk about hot topics that are in
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  line with our interests, your interests, Oshie of sports, for
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  example, my interests, for example, of traveling and music
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  and both are interests of following what's going on in
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  politics, Trump related and Israel, of course, hostages.
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  And thank you God for giving us this opportunity to be here.
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  Thank you, Scott, for joining us.
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  We're. Going to talk about any of my
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  interests, either snacks or naps.
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  Scott, you are the friendly Shabbos boyfriend and I've known
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  you over a decade. And are you complimented when I
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  call you that? Sure, I'd like to be your friend
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  every day, not just one day then.
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  Remember Eric Trump when he came to ECAP and he was the keynote
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  speaker? First thing he gets up there,
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  he's all right. You guys probably all know me as
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  the Shabbos girl. Did he say that?
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  I didn't know that. Yeah, he said that Ivanka Trump,
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  anytime she needs to go up an elevator on Chavez, she has him
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  push the button. She's like, he's like, I've
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  pushed so many buttons for so many Jews.
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  He's like, I'm proud of it. I'm happy to be the the Shabbos
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  guy. He.
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  Was that's amazing. Uh, Scott?
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  I'll be your button man. You call me that and Scott.
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  We'll call you a lot of things because you're actually one of
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  the funniest people I know in general.
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  And you've worked at Medline, which is a company that sold
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  medical supplies through our company for over a decade.
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  And we had a relationship with with you.
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  I remember the first time I met you.
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  But nobody here knows you. So let's just at least get a
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  32nd overview into, you know, introduction, if you will, of
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  who you are. Sure.
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  And now the new company that I work for, Parachute Health, has
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  a contract with Prime Source GPO.
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  What we do at our new company is for, for ordering DME, we
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  replace a fax machine. So I always tell people I have
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  the easiest job in the world now.
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  So I grew up very close to you, 2 towns over a new city, knowing
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  you through working with you for many years.
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  Both of you worked with us, she for many years.
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  And now I'm excited to be kind of back in the fold here with
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  you all. I want to do my own little intro
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  for Scott if I may. You know what ushi the floor is?
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  I want to do my own there, but I think it's pretty interesting
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  how you and I met. So I also, like you, worked at
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  Medline and then Michael, you undersold it.
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  It's not just a medical supply company, It's the largest
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  disposable medical supply company in the country.
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  Nobody sells more diapers than Medline does.
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  They're actually a global company.
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  They sell all over the world. Over 40,000 employees work at
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  this company. I started working for them about
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  10 years ago, 11 years ago. And I remember right when I got
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  the job, I was like a little nervous.
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  I was a little apprehensive because it's not a Jewish
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  company at all. As a matter of fact, I was the
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  only Orthodox Jew that worked at Medline while I was there out of
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  40,000 people. I think that's you can consider
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  me a minority, you know, at that point.
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  I was the only Orthodox Jew before you.
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  Yeah, yeah, exactly. He was, he was, he was the the
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  closest thing they had to an Orthodox Jew was Scott Leopold.
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  So I remember when I, when I got to Chicago, which is where
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  Medline is headquartered, you know, they bring the new reps,
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  they bring them in for training. They train them in person for a
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  couple of weeks. So I get there, I get to
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  Chicago, I, you know, head out to the hotel and then the next
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  morning, you know, I was going to be training.
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  I'm nervous and I'm like, I don't know anybody.
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  I just pretty much know the guy that hired me and that's it.
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  So when I get to the hotel and I see someone standing by the
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  front door of the hotel and I guess Scott, you were there at
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  the time, not for training. You already worked at Medline,
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  but you were there for something else.
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  They do continued education as well.
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  So you were also there. And as I'm walking by and be
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  like, he stops to me. He's like, Hey, what's up?
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  You know, And you know, we, we start talking, we get, we get
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  introduced and he made me feel comfortable, like within
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  minutes, you know, and he, he realized, you know, that was
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  brand new and he gave me a little bit of comfort.
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  It was a comforting moment for me and we became fast, fast
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  friends. I want to say that Scott was not
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  just my friend at Medline. We became personal friends
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  outside the scope or just just work.
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  And Scott was, you know, a big part of me in the beginning,
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  integrating into, for me, what was a new culture.
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  It was very difficult for me in the beginning, but Scott's one
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  of those guys that he can get along with pretty much anybody.
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  He has that type of personality and he's very likable and people
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  love being around him. And also, I'll say this, Scott,
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  and I'll end with this. Scott is someone who just sees
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  things in a very positive way. It's hard to to get him down.
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  And his sense of humor is appreciated by all.
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  So anytime we had an event at Medline, you know, Scott would
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  always keep things interesting and he would, he would be very,
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  very funny. So we we appreciate it.
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  I think I appreciate the friendship.
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  I really do. Yeah.
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  I love that. By the way, thanks for that
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  background. I think it's awesome.
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  Just for the record, the how there's a lot of non Jewish
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  people who do business with us that are enjoying this podcast,
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  for example, because they like to learn about our culture,
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  right? And they're learning about it
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  while they're doing business with us.
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  I think it's fascinating how an Orthodox Jew went to a company
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  that is founded by Jews, by the way, for predominantly not
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  Jewish run. And that idea is very cool.
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  Like, for example, I was just reading recently about new
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  Orthodox Jewish police officers that joined the Police
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  Department and it's different. You need different, right?
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  Like, you know. You think they'll learn a lot of
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  ways, but also very different. Yeah, like you got to get pulled
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  over by someone, a police officer wearing a keeper.
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  I'm not sure how it's going to go either way.
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  Either it's going to go great or it's going to be terrible.
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  I'm not sure. Should I pull out my badge if I
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  pull out my PBA card? But that whole process is
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  interesting. It's just, I wanted to point
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  that out. But the other thing I was
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  thinking is Speaking of Orthodox Jews.
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  The Orthodox Jew Jewish community is actually the ones
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  that benefit most from Medline. You know why?
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  Because Medline are the manufacturers of those blankets
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  that you get when you have a child.
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  And they have so many children. You quote on quick over there.
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  Good for you, yeah. I opened up a school bus shop in
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  Muncie. I'm going to be the richest guy
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  in the world. That's great.
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  That's great. Yeah.
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  So we have a great background of of Medline and who Scott is and
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  I appreciate that. I, I want to get into
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  conversations and topics that are, you know, we call them
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  random, but it's really just like anything that we want to
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  talk about that's happening in our world, like I said earlier.
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  But first, before we do that, Michael, I was about to say, but
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  first I want to ask you if there's anything you want to
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  bring up. I only want to bring up
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  something because it literally just happened last night.
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  Go for it. It just happened last night.
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  And I was actually very intrigued by it.
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  And this is going on for quite a long time and you may not know
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  about this and others may not know about this as well.
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  But Donald Trump was president. I thought it was.
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  I thought it was really, really cool and really nice and I
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  appreciate it. So I want to share what I
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  experienced. I went to a wedding last night
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  in Lakewood, OK Lakewood is has a lot of notoriety.
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  Yeah. A.
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  Lot of Scott, you're familiar with Lakewood there?
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  Yeah. It's part of the Bermuda
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  Triangle, Yeah. Muncie, Brooklyn.
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  Lakewood. Exactly.
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  And Lakewood's become like the hub for, you know, healthcare
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  and there's a lot of operators who have their offices over.
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  There and just like Muncie grew to be Spring Valley and Ramapo,
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  Lakewood's grown to be the community's grown to be outside
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  of that as well, Toms River, etcetera.
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  Look at this guy. He's literally up to date.
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  He's up to speed. And stomach geography.
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  Yeah, and you're right. They're expanding like crazy.
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  Like they're just, it keeps evolving.
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  And now they're expanding into Brick, NJ as well.
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  Like they're really starting to go out even more.
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  But great. Listen, they're growing and it's
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  a beautiful thing. So there's a lot of families who
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  live there. So there's got to be, I don't
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  know how many weddings every night, but I'm assuming on a
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  daily basis at night you probably have 30-40 weddings
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  going on all at the same time. Pause.
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  I'm sorry. There's a wedding hall that has
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  two wedding halls built in one, the central kitchen, and you can
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  go out from either door and you have one wedding hall in the
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  front, one wedding hall in the back, Two parties going.
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  I've been to two weddings. You know how they say you can't
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  dance at 2 weddings at the same time?
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  I did it in Lakewood. Continue.
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  So in the same building. In the same building, how many
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  people are at each of these weddings too?
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  It's a considerable. Amount of close to 1000
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  sometimes, yeah. Thousands.
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  A lot, you know, I would say between 500.
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  And OK, OK, which is a lot. That's true.
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  Average. Yeah.
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  How much is average in your world?
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  I had 300 people at my wedding and that was considered.
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  Huge. That's not bad, by the way.
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  Yeah. Didn't you have a travel
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  wedding? Didn't you have a destination?
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  My wife's from Peru, so we got married there.
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  And with that, you had 300 people.
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  Yep, even though people have to travel.
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  Yeah, I just wanted to know. I was so excited.
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  That's especially a. Lot of a lot of people from Peru
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  there as well, but a lot of people traveled.
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  I was so excited to have a destiny.
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  I'm sorry OSHA, we'll get right back to you.
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  I'm so excited to get an invitation from Scott for his
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  wedding in Peru that I put it on my fridge.
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  And then I was, like, elated. And then I looked at it and I'm
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  like Friday night in a church. Thanks, Scott.
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  Yeah, so I couldn't go, but. But go ahead.
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  So anyway, I'm at this wedding last night and it's towards the
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  end of the wedding probably, you know, the tail end of it, the
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  last hour when I guess all the, you know, the grooms, the the
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  cousin's friends start to dance, you know, they take over the
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  party. And also I see kids just filling
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  into the hall, these like 1314 year old kids, teenagers, like,
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  I don't know, 40 or 50 of them. And they just take over and they
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  start dancing, not with the groom, but with the brother of
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  the, of the bride, the bride's brothers.
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  They start dancing with them. They put them into the middle as
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  if, as if they're the center, you know, center of attention.
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  And I, I found that to be a little bit, a little bit
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  strange. I've never seen that before.
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  So I started asking people around me.
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  Oh yeah, that's very normal. So the way it works in Lakewood
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  is if there is a wedding in the family and you have a sibling
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  from 9th to 12th grade, then their whole class also attends
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  the wedding towards the end. And they give like, you know,
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  special attention to the sibling so they can celebrate with with
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  them. And it becomes very rowdy.
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  And it becomes, and sometimes he says you can have two siblings,
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  one's in 9th grade, one's in 11th grade.
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  So both their classes come. And if that happens, then there
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  was Toshiba, who's the head of the school, he'll also attend
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  and becomes a very big deal. And it was so festive.
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  It was so like entertaining and and everybody was engaged and
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  everybody was just, and I felt like, wow, this really just the
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  energy in the room was was incredible.
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  And apparently this is what they do in Lakewood.
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  This is a very normal thing. And I've never seen that before.
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  And I thought that was, like I said, next time I'm on the
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  podcast, I want to talk about this because, you know, maybe we
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  should institute this in in other world.
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  Why is only Lakewood doing this? Like it's such a good idea.
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  I think that we should. We should.
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  Scott, what do you, what do you think?
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  Well, I don't have to pay for this wedding that we're talking
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  about, right? I say.
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  I say invite everyone. This is great.
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  Invite all the kids. Our weddings are very, very
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  expensive. I mean, it's, it's you have 1000
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  people there. Yeah, no.
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  Imagine even 200 people a typical wedding.
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  By how much is a typical wedding in your world?
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  I mean, I think. You the night of the just the
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  night of the wedding expenses. I would imagine 150 bucks a head
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  or something to that. But that's for the food.
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  I'm talking about everything. Is that everything?
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  It's like I. Don't know a couple $100,000.
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  Get out of here a couple 100 grand I.
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  Think so? Yeah, really.
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  That's what the average American spends maybe 100 grand.
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  Probably that's what you spent on a wedding.
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  No Destination is less I guess cuz people.
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  But it's 300 people. That's crazy.
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  You're not gonna talk about how much your wedding?
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  I don't. Remember exactly.
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  I mean, it was a long time ago, but and it was also in another
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  country where things are a lot less expensive, right?
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  That's. True.
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  Have you been to a non Jewish wedding?
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  Before I love. Non Jewish wedding.
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  I've been to one. I've been to one Non Jewish
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  wedding. Matt Cerullo.
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  Yeah, OK, Shout out to Matt Cerullo, by the way.
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  It's a friend of ours. The best, the best story we had
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  that I have about being friends with Ushi was you remember the
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  the BBQ we did at Matt's house? Yeah, so tell everybody this
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  story. That's a great.
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  This is a pretty good story. So we were having a barbecue and
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  we only have one Orthodox Jewish friend being Ushi.
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  And the company was having a BBQ for our team was like 2530
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  people. Yeah, there's probably about 25
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  people there, us and our spouses.
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  And obviously we wanted to make her, she comfortable and happy
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  there. So we said, oh, she what do you
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  know, what do you need? What do we have to do?
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  Can we just buy some kosher food and cook it up and.
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  This is, mind you, in like deep Connecticut, like in Hartford,
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  CT like, you know, there's not a lot of coastal options in the
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  area. So as she's explaining to us
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  certain things, OK, we can do that.
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  We can do that. We need a separate grill.
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  OK, we can do that. And then he gets there and he
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  says, oh, and also the grates for the grill need to be washed
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  in running water. And we're like, OK, I like the
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  sink. And he got it's a purifying
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  grates. No like natural running water,
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  we need to find like a river or something.
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  We're like what we're like. Well people are coming here
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  soon. So we ended up taking the grate
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  from this disposable grill that we we bought specifically for
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  Ushi and going to like some running water we found behind
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  the ShopRite and like a. What a real story.
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  Yeah, it was a running stream over there.
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  And it was like run off from like the street or something
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  like that, but it was like. Yeah, but it LED into like a
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  larger body of water, so it was good enough, I think.
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  Yeah, there was like a shopping. Part.
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  How did you guys react to that? We loved it.
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  We loved it. It was like a journey.
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  They watched me as I took the greats and I, you know, walked
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  towards the stream and I, like, dipped it into the window.
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  They're probably thinking like, this guy's wacko, like,
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  whatever. They're just entertaining me.
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  But yeah, this, I, I did what I had to do.
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  And they were very respectful. And, you know, they really
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  cooperate. By the way, there's another rule
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  that's more important than this rule.
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  And that rule is, is that a Jewish person has to ignite the
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  fire of whatever it is that you're cooking, right?
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  Yeah. I'm just a magic.
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  I thought that's where you were going.
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  I thought you were. Saying like we have to turn the
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  fire on, you know, by the way, you know how that comes across,
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  Michael, like as a non Jew, like, you know, somebody's in
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  your house and they're cooking for you, then you can't turn the
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  fire on. I got to do it for you.
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  Like it probably makes them feel for a moment like a little bit
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  like what? I'm not good enough to turn the
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  fire on, you know, like how, how do you perceive?
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  Talk about opening bottles of wine.
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  I have an answer, but let's go back to the cooking thing where
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  you were for a second at the BBQ simply because I just want to
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  tell you that the ritual of water, I just want to mention
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  for a second is a little bit like, wow, that's different,
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  That's interesting. Lighting a fire, right?
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  Like we said earlier, if you came in and lit a fire.
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  But I just want to mention something, Oshi, so you know,
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  for the future. I was stuck once and I bought
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  dishes, and I was told that if you buy dishes that are made in
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  the country of Israel, you don't have to actually dip them in
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  ritual waters 'cause they're already holy.
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  There's a concept like that that exists.
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  Is that like an accepted concept that people practice?
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  You know what? Someone can Google it.
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  Will you know you're our other friend?
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  Google this Michael. This is like an internal thing
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  between. No, no, it's, I don't.
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  Have I don't think you know Internet has data on Google.
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  'S by the way Gemini through Google is up to date with
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  everything, so you can not ask your local rabbi.
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  But anyway, my point is I'm. Sure, the party city in West
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  Hartford didn't have plates that were made in Israel.
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  I'm almost. Positive, yeah, no, but it was
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  it was a nice. I was just saying tip for you
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  for the future, you can actually get a guy a non Jew and you can
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  do an exchange, a money exchange with him.
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  Yeah. And then he owns the plates and
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  then you don't have to put them in the ritual anymore.
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  Actually, an interesting thing about my culture that I've never
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  told you is every time I do a podcast, I'm given $5000 by each
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  of the codes. That's amazing.
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  That's amazing. I respect your culture.
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  Yeah, thank you. Do you practice everything in
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  your culture? This part, I remember the first
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  time we ate dinner together and I looked at everyone who was not
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  Jewish and I said, OK guys, we have in our culture, we have to
• 17:24
  hold hands. They didn't know what to do.
• 17:26
  Everyone wanted to respect me, so they started holding my hand.
• 17:29
  I'm kidding. So that's always fun to do by
• 17:31
  the way. And I like where this where this
• 17:34
  topic is going. I'll just just finish that topic
• 17:37
  up. I'll just say that I always I
• 17:39
  never believed in much in my life, so watching people have
• 17:42
  strong beliefs has always been interesting to me and I respect
• 17:46
  having a higher calling. Scott, let's get into that.
• 17:49
  I'm. Putting leaving the papers away
• 17:51
  for a little bit. So what are some of the
• 17:52
  baselines though for you? Do you have any basic beliefs do
• 17:54
  you have? I guess my my belief is more
• 17:58
  I'll see when I get there. I don't.
• 17:59
  I don't feel that I need to have an answer.
• 18:03
  Interesting. And you know, you know what they
• 18:05
  say, they say like nobody's an atheist in a foxhole.
• 18:08
  Like, you know, when, when someone needs to turn to a
• 18:11
  higher power, like at that moment, like everybody,
• 18:13
  everybody. Does.
• 18:14
  By the way, they may say that I'm.
• 18:15
  Curious about the response Exactly.
• 18:16
  Yeah, I never have. I don't.
• 18:19
  I'm comfortable not knowing, you know, I don't feel that I need
• 18:22
  to. No, Interesting.
• 18:24
  I don't know. Like for me, Michael and Scott,
• 18:27
  I don't know what you know, I'm a religious person.
• 18:30
  I practice, but there's a lot of things I don't really
• 18:33
  understand. I don't even know.
• 18:34
  I'm just doing it because that's how I grew up and that's how
• 18:37
  I've been taught. For me, religion really comes
• 18:39
  down to a quality of life. Religion for me gives me a sense
• 18:43
  of community, which I think is very, very important.
• 18:47
  It puts values for me on on having a family and things like
• 18:50
  that. And I think I'm just happy
• 18:51
  you're for it in a, in a lot of ways.
• 18:54
  So, you know, I'm sort of like the way I look at it is I'm on
• 18:56
  the train and I may not have a seat in first class.
• 19:00
  I may not. I'm definitely not driving the
• 19:02
  train. I'm not the conductor of the
• 19:03
  train. I'm on the train.
• 19:05
  And this train is going through destination and hopefully I get
• 19:07
  to the same place everybody else is going.
• 19:09
  We're on the same train at the end of the day, but I'm somewhat
• 19:11
  in the back. I'm taking a little bit of a
• 19:13
  passive role, but I want to be on the train.
• 19:16
  You know, I don't want to miss the train.
• 19:17
  I want to be on it. That much I know.
• 19:19
  I'm on the same train. I just don't know where it's
• 19:20
  going. Yeah.
• 19:22
  I completely have a different opinion than both of you.
• 19:25
  I'm not just on the train. I am the conductor.
• 19:27
  I actually feel that each one of us is in some sort of fashion, a
• 19:31
  conductor. And if you're just riding the
• 19:33
  back of the train, you are missing out in life.
• 19:36
  That's my opinion. My thoughts is that I've chosen
• 19:40
  this religion as the right religion for me based on the
• 19:42
  values that I'm living. And I enjoy it and I appreciate
• 19:46
  it. And I'm living it up every day,
• 19:48
  baby. And I don't pray three times a
• 19:50
  day with a group of 10 people, meaning a minion.
• 19:53
  And I keep Shabbat and I keep kosher and I wear a keeper
• 19:56
  because I'm proud to be Jewish. And I love it.
• 19:59
  I consciously do everything I do based on my values.
• 20:02
  Thank you, Rabbi Speedbeck, my therapist, who've been working
• 20:05
  on this with me for years. But and I knew it existed
• 20:07
  somewhere in my DNA in my upbringing for years.
• 20:10
  And I had that in my and like you said, the house door next
• 20:13
  door to the left by me was an Indian.
• 20:15
  The house next door to the right was was African American.
• 20:18
  And we got along and I'm looking at their religion.
• 20:20
  But in the past decade or so, I studied it and I looked at it
• 20:24
  and I said, you know what? The Bible, I love the Bible.
• 20:25
  This is going to be my map and I'm going to be the conductor.
• 20:27
  And every one of us have got inside of and we're all the
• 20:30
  conductors. But I don't want to get too deep
• 20:32
  into it. But that's my philosophy.
• 20:33
  It's my look. So, and I'm very interested in
• 20:35
  religion and I studied philosophy is what I got my
• 20:37
  degree in and I was very interested in how, you know,
• 20:40
  religions came about and how they're taught and what they do
• 20:42
  for people. And I respect religions and
• 20:45
  respect people that follow. Really.
• 20:46
  Are you open to the idea of accepting God into your life one
• 20:49
  day? I'm just curious.
• 20:51
  If I guess I'm open to it, yeah. If something came or you know.
• 20:55
  Going back to what is she, is there, is there a foxhole that
• 20:57
  potentially you could be in that you'll say, Oh my God, maybe I
• 21:00
  should look at Buddhism or Judaism?
• 21:02
  No, but I do like Buddhism a lot.
• 21:04
  If I was going to choose a religion would probably be Zen
• 21:07
  Buddhism because it's more based on an internal feeling.
• 21:11
  That's really cool. I think there's a lot of aspects
• 21:13
  to Buddhism that I actually appreciate, and the Zen world is
• 21:17
  one that I also relate to a lot. The candles burning, it's proof
• 21:20
  of that. But I look at candles and light
• 21:22
  as spiritual as well. I like that we have different
• 21:24
  perspectives and we're all getting together here and we're
• 21:26
  aligned interests in our values of discussions of interesting
• 21:30
  topics that are in our world. I prepared something.
• 21:33
  Now what it is, is like a, you know, call it Russian roulette,
• 21:36
  if you will. You'll pick a number from 1:00
• 21:39
  to 12:00 and I'll talk about this topic with the three of us
• 21:42
  and then each one of you can go through either the papers and
• 21:44
  pick a topic or you could all play the one to 12 game.
• 21:48
  Let's do the one to 12 game these.
• 21:49
  Topics are topics. So I just want to mention
• 21:51
  though, these topics that I picked are interests that Ushi
• 21:54
  and I have. And for those of you listening,
• 21:56
  we are very, very different. Like you heard a minute ago
• 21:58
  about the train, the conductor. I love music, I love traveling.
• 22:02
  I love people, I love Expos. I love meeting new people.
• 22:04
  I feed off their energy. You may not like that part of
• 22:07
  that world, right? You love sports, you're a
• 22:09
  fanatic when it comes to information.
• 22:11
  You're a teacher. I read the room, I read people.
• 22:15
  I don't read books. Or she reads books, right?
• 22:18
  It's really a fundamental difference, I think, between the
• 22:20
  two of us, wouldn't you say? Yeah.
• 22:21
  I mean, I think each of us have a little bit of those things as
• 22:24
  well. Yeah.
• 22:24
  But I think that we're each extreme and the.
• 22:26
  Things great. So the 12 topics I picked is
• 22:28
  based on that. So who wants to go first?
• 22:32
  I think our guests will definitely.
• 22:33
  Go. You know what, Thank you.
• 22:34
  I appreciate. That I'm pulling one out of the
• 22:35
  hat. Let's go with eight.
• 22:36
  Wow that's so interesting. I I I'm not making this up. 8
• 22:40
  was my number as well like I was thinking when it.
• 22:42
  Comes to get out of here, I swear. 8 is my.
• 22:44
  Looks like I could read. People too.
• 22:45
  Yeah, it's pretty cool. OK, good. 8 is wow OK
• 22:50
  interesting cultural and entertainment highlights that's
• 22:53
  going on in the world and I'm gonna let's.
• 22:54
  Go to the next. 1 cultural and entertainment highlights.
• 22:58
  I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you a list here so you
• 23:00
  understand what I'm talking about and we could jump into
• 23:02
  anything I don't. Want to hear the list?
• 23:04
  I want to be surprised when we ask you for a number.
• 23:06
  No, no, this is 8, this is number 8.
• 23:08
  I'm telling you, the categories within #8 yeah, yeah, I'm
• 23:10
  expanding on, for example, Bob Marley's 80th anniversary is
• 23:14
  coming up. So Jamaica's going crazy soon,
• 23:16
  right? That's like a topic.
• 23:17
  I'm going to pass on. The the Jazz.
• 23:19
  Like that topic? OK.
• 23:21
  New York City is having a Jazz Festival, and I think it's
• 23:24
  important for everyone to know when festivals are and music
• 23:26
  festivals are where you can go. And I know it's not a big topic
• 23:28
  for you, but I love it. Right.
• 23:30
  So winter jazz Only one jazz club.
• 23:31
  Left in New York, too. No, there's more than one.
• 23:34
  Yeah. Yeah, there's plenty.
• 23:35
  Yeah. You know what?
• 23:36
  Go check it out. Blue Note Where else do you go?
• 23:38
  I I'm not a jazz fan, but my son is and I'm actually gonna go
• 23:43
  this weekend to the Lincoln Theater and they're, they have a
• 23:46
  jazz club upstairs, which is 1. Yeah, the Blue Note is great
• 23:48
  too. I don't know if you ever even
• 23:49
  know the Blue Note on Bleaker. It's fantastic.
• 23:52
  I love knowing that. By the way, I'm going to add
• 23:53
  that to my list. Purim is coming up, guys.
• 23:56
  That's here and I'm going to get straight into that.
• 23:58
  By the way, even though I have movies here and shows and
• 24:00
  different things that might be boring or not what's, what am I
• 24:03
  picking up on? I'm picking up on Purim.
• 24:05
  You want to know why? Because the first time this guy
• 24:07
  that I celebrated a Jewish event, he was a cowboy and he
• 24:12
  came to our party. Party.
• 24:13
  You know why I was a cowboy? Why?
• 24:15
  Because it was very, I thought you guys were lying about it
• 24:18
  being a a costume party. So I thought that.
• 24:21
  If I just wore a Plaid shirt like I wear often, and I could
• 24:24
  just wear a cowboy hat, and if it wasn't really a costume
• 24:27
  party, I could take off the cowboy hat and wearing.
• 24:30
  So what? Was that what I pulled up?
• 24:32
  So tell us what that was like. It was.
• 24:33
  Shocking. I mean you this was a non Jew
• 24:35
  that hasn't experienced perm before and what goes on?
• 24:38
  It's like the one day of a year that is our our we let loose
• 24:43
  beyond anything you imagine. And for an outsider, for someone
• 24:46
  not Jewish, they've never experienced it.
• 24:47
  It's got to be a crazy shock when you see what's unfolding in
• 24:51
  front of you. What was that likely?
• 24:53
  The first time I went there must have been around 10 years ago,
• 24:56
  probably 2015, somewhere in there.
• 24:58
  And it was, it's in February, March usually, right, right in
• 25:00
  that, that area. And I remember it snowed that
• 25:03
  day. I drove over to Neil's house.
• 25:06
  We were celebrating and again, I was like, God, these guys
• 25:10
  probably lied to me. They're probably messing around
• 25:11
  like the like the hand holding trick at dinner.
• 25:13
  Yeah, Yeah. So you're.
• 25:14
  Gonna sober. Everybody's gonna go Sykes.
• 25:16
  God, I think you're the only idiot.
• 25:18
  So. Luckily my costume was just a
• 25:19
  bandana and a cowboy hat that could be removed, but so I pull
• 25:23
  up and I see an entire marching band of like 10 year olds get
• 25:28
  out of a limo and walk into the house.
• 25:30
  And I was like, all right, I think they're telling the truth.
• 25:33
  Something's happening. I remember specifically a story
• 25:35
  happened though there about someone at the door that asked
• 25:38
  you for money. Can you tell us what do you
• 25:39
  remember this entrance? Speak a couple people were
• 25:42
  everyone was asking me for money.
• 25:44
  I didn't know what was going on. You have to realize there's a
• 25:47
  bunch of, you know, clearly stoned teenagers getting driven
• 25:51
  around asking for money for their school.
• 25:54
  And I started asking people, well, the money, we know the
• 25:56
  money doesn't go to their school, right?
• 25:58
  And they're like, yeah, yeah, we know.
• 25:59
  It's just part of the. Thing I remember, you may not
• 26:00
  remember this. I remember standing next to you
• 26:02
  right when you came in and it was like, you just passed the
• 26:05
  entrance and, you know, you bumped in through a few rabbis.
• 26:08
  You know, this Cowboys pushing it through a few rabbis that
• 26:11
  came to collect. And right when I'm standing next
• 26:14
  to you, a rabbi came over and said, hey, I'm collecting, can
• 26:18
  you give me $20? And you looked at me and he goes
• 26:20
  and he says I just keep the guy at the front door.
• 26:23
  Do you remember that? You thought it was like an
• 26:25
  entrance fee? And then I also tried to someone
• 26:27
  else was asking. Neil just kept giving money to
• 26:30
  everyone. And I go, Neil, I'll take care
• 26:31
  of this guy because I thought everyone just gets 20 bucks.
• 26:33
  And he goes, Scott, I'm about to write that guy a check for
• 26:36
  $10,000. I just put my 20 back in my
• 26:39
  pocket and walked away. Yeah.
• 26:41
  That was a great experience. But the other thing is I had, I
• 26:43
  had only heard about Orthodox Jewish parties before then.
• 26:47
  And I walked in and I only saw, saw men.
• 26:49
  And I just said, hey, guys, you know, I don't want to go to the
• 26:52
  wrong area. Like, you know, where are the
• 26:54
  women? I don't want to like, end up
• 26:56
  there by accident. And this guy looks at me and he
• 26:59
  goes, dude, you don't bring sand to the beach.
• 27:02
  I flip it up and I go, dude, you don't know what that means.
• 27:07
  Neil does throw a great party, by the way, with a great band
• 27:09
  and it was great music. And what do you think of that
• 27:12
  when you see teenagers getting drunk and collecting for their
• 27:15
  school? What goes on in your head?
• 27:16
  It was surprising. I would say I was, you know, I
• 27:22
  don't. It was surprising to see the age
• 27:26
  of the children that were drunk at the.
• 27:28
  Everybody's participating. Yeah.
• 27:29
  It's like, you know, age doesn't matter that day.
• 27:32
  We're all doing the same things. But what you don't see and what
• 27:35
  a lot of the people don't see, if you're not part of the
• 27:38
  community, if you're not infused and you know, and, and knowing
• 27:41
  what's going on, you know, behind closed doors, the amount
• 27:44
  of money that gets dispersed that day across the globe.
• 27:48
  I'm talking about Jews everywhere in the world are
• 27:50
  celebrating that day the same way.
• 27:52
  They're all celebrating it in the same manner.
• 27:55
  And anybody that is somewhat well to do, anybody that has a
• 27:59
  little bit more money than the average person is giving that
• 28:01
  day, but not just giving. I'm sorry I have to interrupt.
• 28:05
  Everyone is giving. I understand.
• 28:07
  But when I'm talking about the giving, now I'm talking about in
• 28:09
  big, large, yeah, but substantial.
• 28:11
  And he's add up. Of course, you know we're giving
• 28:13
  money. Everybody's giving money, but
• 28:14
  you know, you give $1000 for the for the day, the average person.
• 28:18
  No, but I'm making a. Point $1000 spirit you give
• 28:20
  away, but I'm talking about these people.
• 28:22
  And I'm gonna let you finish. I'm just saying the spirit of
• 28:24
  the holiday. And I don't like when people
• 28:25
  compare it to Halloween. I just say it's like a Halloween
• 28:28
  thing to non Jews who don't understand because the costumes.
• 28:31
  But at the end of the day, the whole idea of Purim is giving.
• 28:34
  Yeah, it's you actually can't go through for him without giving
• 28:37
  someone something to help them, which is amazing.
• 28:40
  Amazing. But continue.
• 28:41
  I'm sorry. I have a great story.
• 28:42
  I'll tell you in a minute. No, no, it's true.
• 28:43
  It's true. But the, the, the amounts of
• 28:45
  money that goes out that day is astronomical.
• 28:48
  And if you explain that to a non Jew, they'd be like, what?
• 28:52
  This guy gave out $1,000,000 that day.
• 28:54
  The next guy gave out $2,000,000 that day.
• 28:57
  And it's not just only one day in the year this person is
• 28:59
  giving, he's giving throughout the year as well.
• 29:01
  He's involved a lot of, you know, organizations and they're
• 29:04
  giving it to strangers. Well, not real strangers.
• 29:07
  You know, we all consider ourselves brothers, you know, if
• 29:09
  you're Jewish. But at the end of the day,
• 29:10
  somebody you don't know and you're not really vetting them,
• 29:13
  you're not asking questions. This is a line that's out the
• 29:15
  door and people have a minute, you know, 60 seconds to quickly
• 29:18
  share their story and and you got to check and everybody gets
• 29:21
  something. Somebody get a little more than
• 29:22
  others. But to me, that's that's always
• 29:24
  been astounding is that we have that type of camaraderie and we
• 29:28
  have that type of connection that money talks.
• 29:31
  All right, that's where it all you know it all ends is are you
• 29:35
  willing to put your money where your mouth is?
• 29:36
  And we are, we're putting our money where our mouth is that
• 29:39
  we're literally sharing our money with with everybody.
• 29:41
  I think that's it needs to be told.
• 29:43
  People need to know it. Goes back to, I think what's a
• 29:45
  probably what I think, what I respect most about the Jewish
• 29:49
  culture, which I Mike, we've talked about this before.
• 29:51
  My grandmother's from Brooklyn just like you are, Irish woman,
• 29:54
  Irish Catholic woman, and she used to say all the time by
• 29:57
  Jewish people, Jewish people take care of each other, really
• 30:00
  something that I think a lot of the world respects about.
• 30:03
  I appreciate you saying that. And I want to say on that note
• 30:04
  and taking care of each other, guys, Purim is coming up.
• 30:08
  Underage drinking is not only frowned upon, it's illegal and
• 30:11
  it should not happen. I'm not a fan of it and it's a
• 30:14
  challenge. And every year there's
• 30:16
  unfortunate incidents that happen and drunk driving, I love
• 30:21
  that people get limos because they recognize that they're
• 30:23
  going to drink anyways. So you might.
• 30:25
  It's OK. I'm not condoning, I'm not
• 30:26
  saying it, but it's a very big challenge.
• 30:29
  And I want you to know that I'm not a big fan of that in
• 30:31
  general. The drinking of underage
• 30:34
  children is is terrible. And it's something that Hatsala,
• 30:37
  which is the national organization that deals with
• 30:40
  emergencies for Jewish people, comes out very strong before the
• 30:43
  holiday of Purim, reminding everybody, do not drink.
• 30:47
  You know, like, don't, don't drink and drive, right?
• 30:50
  Don't drink. And Purim, you know what I mean?
• 30:52
  A. 10 year old's not going to know their limits, it's
• 30:53
  impossible. The issue is that part of the
• 30:56
  holiday spirit is to drink and the and this is my confuse the
• 31:00
  message that I'm about to tell you in a minute and Oshi, I'd
• 31:01
  love to hear your perspective on this.
• 31:03
  The whole idea is to give, but another very big thing that
• 31:06
  you're supposed to do on Purim is drink until you don't know
• 31:08
  the difference between a. Villain and the.
• 31:11
  Hero exactly. That is the whole.
• 31:13
  That's what you describe. So what to the point that you
• 31:15
  don't no longer know who's the villain, who's the Jewish people
• 31:17
  are telling their communities that when you're 13, you're a
• 31:21
  man, when you're 13, you're a bar mitzvah, and that's when you
• 31:24
  have to abide by all the rules of the Torah.
• 31:27
  And that's the map of our life, which I agree, but then we tell
• 31:30
  them, but I'm Purim, there's one thing you can't do and that's
• 31:33
  drink. So these boys that are studying
• 31:36
  all day, they make arguments to their rabbis and leaders and
• 31:40
  families that we want to drink also is part of our obligation.
• 31:43
  I don't have much arguments they're making, they're just
• 31:44
  drinking. What is the?
• 31:46
  Following suit, they see what's going on.
• 31:47
  It's so accessible, it's all around terrible everywhere.
• 31:50
  Everybody's drinking, so naturally they're just gonna tag
• 31:52
  along and they're gonna partake. That's what happens and you
• 31:55
  can't really avoid it much. And it's every parents job,
• 31:58
  Michael, to try to control it as best as they can for their own
• 32:01
  children. And everybody's got to do their
• 32:03
  own thing. I'm not here to tell the next
• 32:04
  kid what to do. I'm here to tell the next kid
• 32:06
  what to do. Don't drink and drive.
• 32:07
  Get a driver. And not every parent is
• 32:09
  responsible. Some people don't have,
• 32:11
  unfortunately, you know, parents that are responsible like that.
• 32:13
  So the kids should listen to this and should know, get a
• 32:15
  driver or you know, that's all. That's all I'm saying.
• 32:18
  I'm saying like, you know, OK, I'm not.
• 32:19
  Battling that. Not a perfect world that's never
• 32:20
  going to all right. What's the biblical back story
• 32:22
  for losing the distinction between the villain and the
• 32:25
  hero? There's no, there's no back
• 32:28
  story for it. I mean, they want you to be in a
• 32:30
  zone where, first of all, that day is supposed to be the
• 32:33
  opposite, right? Because we had a tremendous
• 32:35
  miracle. That's it.
• 32:36
  That's that's the. Part and therefore what was
• 32:38
  supposed to happen to the Jews where everybody was, you know,
• 32:40
  there was a, a death sentence for the Jews.
• 32:42
  They're all going to get killed. And not only did they not get
• 32:45
  killed, they actually came out on top and they became very, you
• 32:48
  know, a lot of good things happened to them.
• 32:50
  So the opposite happened. So to commemorate that, this day
• 32:53
  we do everything the opposite. So normally, you know, on a
• 32:56
  daily basis you're sober, you know, so today you got a drink.
• 33:00
  You got to be the opposite of that.
• 33:01
  That's why we dress up to be the opposite.
• 33:03
  Of we are differently than how we're.
• 33:04
  To commemorate that idea. Everything's about being the
• 33:07
  opposite. Right.
• 33:08
  But going back to giving, which we don't do the opposite.
• 33:10
  We exemplify the idea of giving. I do want to mention a quick
• 33:13
  story. We had an organization in
• 33:15
  Brooklyn when my mom and dad were alive that we gave food to
• 33:18
  people who just couldn't afford it.
• 33:20
  And we did it in a way of taking leftover food from weddings.
• 33:23
  Did I tell you the story before? I mean, I know about.
• 33:27
  You know about the concept. Yeah.
• 33:28
  So there's still a guy in Muncie, in our community.
• 33:30
  His name is Benny Wexler, and he has an organization.
• 33:32
  He's a great grandfather. And he goes to weddings every
• 33:35
  week, and he picks up the leftover food and he gives it
• 33:37
  out to the needy. So we did this in Brooklyn when
• 33:39
  my mom and dad were alive and my dad passed away.
• 33:42
  But my mom continued this process.
• 33:44
  And one of the things that we did is we would go on the
• 33:47
  streets. And if anybody would collect the
• 33:49
  charity, I, as a young child, would say to them, I can't give
• 33:52
  you really charity right now, but I can give you food.
• 33:55
  And I could put you on the list to give you food.
• 33:57
  They would say, wow, that's amazing.
• 33:58
  Yeah. Thank you.
• 33:58
  And here's my address. One day I met a guy on Avenue J
• 34:01
  in Brooklyn. He sat in a wheelchair, and he
• 34:03
  was a very big dude. It was difficult to look at him,
• 34:06
  you know the type. Like it was just you felt bad
• 34:08
  for him, You. Felt terrible.
• 34:09
  You felt you uncomfortable. Exactly.
• 34:11
  It made me uncomfortable and I said to him, give me your
• 34:13
  address and I'll come. And he said no problem.
• 34:15
  Anyways, I went to give out the food at it at the his apartment,
• 34:20
  which was on Avenue H and the 7th.
• 34:21
  For those of you that don't know, it's like an area which is
• 34:23
  like back then, it was just the building itself still doesn't
• 34:25
  have air conditioning or working elevators.
• 34:27
  He lived, of course, on the 7th floor and the elevator was
• 34:30
  broken. So the first time I went up to
• 34:31
  him, I went up, I delivered the food, I knocked on his door, he
• 34:34
  came to answer and I got a peek into the apartment and it was a
• 34:38
  hoarder. You know, the hoarder types,
• 34:39
  everything is just sitting there.
• 34:41
  You ever see those cars that have people that have that
• 34:43
  everything in the car and you can't even see the guy driving?
• 34:45
  Everybody knows those types of cars, right?
• 34:47
  That was his apartment. And it was there was rats
• 34:51
  running around. It was disgusting.
• 34:52
  I felt terrible for him, but I was like, I can't do this again.
• 34:55
  And my mom said, no, no, that's going to be your shift.
• 34:57
  You're going to have to do that shift.
• 34:59
  And every week on Thursday, I'd go up the seven flights and I
• 35:03
  would be frustrated that I had to do it, but it would feel good
• 35:05
  and I would do it. It was Purim and it was 4:30 PM.
• 35:09
  And we were about to start the family meal when we're all
• 35:12
  together in our house. And my mom looks at me and she
• 35:14
  goes, we need to go deliver food to that guy on Avenue H And I
• 35:18
  said, are you kidding me? I'm going to deliver food to the
• 35:20
  guy. Now we're about to start our
• 35:22
  party. I called her.
• 35:23
  Emma said, Emma, come on now. I'm going to do this.
• 35:26
  And I was a teenager. I'm like, come on.
• 35:27
  This is like, I don't have patience for this right now.
• 35:29
  And she's like, no, you have to do it.
• 35:31
  The spirit of Purim is giving, and the ultimate giving is to
• 35:35
  those who are in need. And that is actually where it
• 35:37
  comes from, to give two people that are in need food or
• 35:39
  sustenance. And I said, you know what, fine,
• 35:41
  I'll do it. I put on my coat.
• 35:42
  I didn't have a car. I walked four blocks with a box
• 35:46
  of food. I walked up to seven flights and
• 35:48
  I knocked on the door. And sure enough that for two
• 35:51
  minutes he opens up and I said, here you go, happy.
• 35:53
  Poor him. And he looked at me and he goes.
• 35:55
  Thank you. And he?
• 35:55
  Slammed the door in my face and I'm like oh OK, that was weird.
• 35:59
  And I walked back. I said e-mail.
• 36:00
  He just wasted my time. He slammed the door in my face.
• 36:02
  I wasn't interested. Next Thursday I come back, I
• 36:05
  woke up the steps. I knock on the door and his
• 36:07
  daughter who I never met answered the door like a 2020 is
• 36:12
  a type of age. She opens the door and I said
• 36:15
  hi, how are you doing? I'm here to deliver.
• 36:17
  She goes, it's the Greenfield. There's no reason for you to
• 36:20
  deliver food anymore. So what happened?
• 36:21
  She goes my father passed away. So your father passed away.
• 36:25
  What are you talking about? She goes, the first time he ever
• 36:28
  got a gift on Purim was when you came on Purim to deliver that
• 36:33
  food. And the next day he died of a
• 36:36
  heart attack. And that that was the first time
• 36:38
  in the left. So I I wanted to say like, what
• 36:41
  was in the food? I had it too.
• 36:43
  It must have been very surprising.
• 36:44
  Oh my God, it's. Exactly.
• 36:46
  But it made me feel so good. And from then on, I took like,
• 36:50
  you know, I don't know, an oath or whatever.
• 36:53
  I promised myself that I'm going to continue feeding people.
• 36:57
  Pretty cool hearing that story now, knowing you, just because
• 37:00
  it's so clear how that shaped you.
• 37:01
  You know, you're such a giving guy now and you're driven by
• 37:05
  helping others and it's just interesting hearing that.
• 37:07
  Story Here's your 20 bucks. Well, you can see how it how it.
• 37:10
  How it shaped him, Yeah, no, I appreciate that.
• 37:12
  But that's that's the story of Purim in a nutshell for me.
• 37:14
  And did I ever tell you the story, actually?
• 37:16
  I heard the story before. I didn't.
• 37:17
  I didn't realize this was a story when you started, but as
• 37:20
  you started saying it, I remembered.
• 37:21
  You know what? Thank you for being quiet though
• 37:23
  throughout the entire story. You're saying that under Michael
• 37:25
  delivers high fat meal to sick man?
• 37:30
  No, I remember the ending of the story, but I held my tongue.
• 37:32
  But it's a great story, Michael, and you know, you did a really
• 37:36
  good thing. Maybe it's it's due to my mother
• 37:38
  and due to the nature of our religion and what we do, which
• 37:40
  is we're giving religion. Yeah.
• 37:42
  You know, the the club that we're part of and the train that
• 37:45
  you're on is the most beautiful train in the world.
• 37:47
  And we were given this as a gift from our family.
• 37:49
  We were born into it and we're happy.
• 37:51
  And that's what I meant very early on when I told you when
• 37:53
  I'm on the train, you know, I have lots of questions.
• 37:56
  I have some days where I question things.
• 37:58
  I have days where I struggle, but at the end of the day, it
• 38:01
  provides me with an overall sense of comfort, just knowing
• 38:05
  that I'm a part of something greater.
• 38:07
  There's a lot of it that does make sense to me, and I think it
• 38:10
  would be much harder not to have some sort of purpose.
• 38:13
  Like if I find out one day that everything is all a fraud and
• 38:16
  it's all one big hugs. Oh my God, I feel like, So what
• 38:18
  am I living for? So what do I need to?
• 38:20
  What's tomorrow? Guys, I like where this.
• 38:22
  I know you well. I know you well enough that if
• 38:24
  you did feel that way, I know how strongly you feel about your
• 38:26
  children and your family. And I, I think that there is a,
• 38:30
  there's something, there's more to life.
• 38:31
  There's something there. Yeah.
• 38:33
  That's important to you that, you know, you probably see
• 38:36
  through a lens of the, of the godliness of it, all right.
• 38:39
  But I believe, I strongly believe that if you know, which
• 38:42
  I don't want you to do. But if you ever lost your faith
• 38:44
  in a religion, I don't think you'd lose purpose in life.
• 38:47
  OK, OK, I hear. I don't know if I agree with
• 38:50
  that. So much All that being said, A.
• 38:52
  Little bit, a little bit of of of purpose has got to have a,
• 38:56
  you know, there's got to be like some type of.
• 38:58
  I'm putting my paper, I'm putting my papers back down.
• 39:00
  Scott, what's the purpose of your life?
• 39:03
  Mine's my family, mine's my daughter.
• 39:05
  What if you didn't have a daughter?
• 39:07
  Then there I probably wouldn't see so much purpose in life.
• 39:10
  It would just be getting through without, you know, hindering too
• 39:14
  much, without hurting people. That's a very unique,
• 39:17
  interesting perspective. And it's not.
• 39:18
  You're not alone, obviously. Yeah, right.
• 39:20
  Most of the world. You know, truthfully, I didn't
• 39:22
  feel terrible. I didn't feel an overwhelming
• 39:26
  feeling of. Purpose before I had a job so
• 39:29
  interesting. You know I I can talk about this
• 39:30
  forever, but we'll leave the commentators to talk.
• 39:32
  This is a very heavy. It is a heavy conversation,
• 39:34
  which is why I'm thinking the papers out again.
• 39:36
  Yeah, yeah. But I I would like to bring
• 39:38
  something up on #8 that he chose 8 and about something cultural
• 39:41
  or something that's. Interesting.
• 39:43
  We could. Stick to 8 all day if you like,
• 39:44
  as long as it stays interesting. I like to talk about how your
• 39:47
  son got into jazz and does he play jazz or is.
• 39:49
  He does. He's an awesome rock star.
• 39:51
  He he plays guitar and jazz guitar.
• 39:53
  Yeah, yeah. Is amazing.
• 39:54
  And he made me fall in love with that style of music when it's
• 39:58
  infused with rock or classic type of stuff like Etta James.
• 40:01
  And I like those kind of things, that kind of music when it comes
• 40:05
  to jazzy stuff. Yeah, but he's amazing.
• 40:07
  Yeah. And I'll let you know how it
• 40:09
  goes this weekend. All right, when we go out, what
• 40:11
  were you gonna say? So I'm a little bit embarrassed
• 40:14
  about this actually, that I have to admit this publicly.
• 40:16
  Can we guess what it is that you're embarrassed?
• 40:18
  No, you're not really. There's a we play that game for
• 40:21
  a minute. I like that.
• 40:21
  I think a. List of go through a list of 50
• 40:23
  things that we think we should be embarrassed I.
• 40:25
  Don't know how you got to pinpoint this particular one,
• 40:27
  but there's a guilty pleasure of mine that I really really enjoy
• 40:33
  and my wife knows about this and she always leaves me alone when
• 40:36
  these things happen so I have the the time to.
• 40:39
  Pregnant pause, please. Right.
• 40:40
  Let everyone guess what this is. Continue.
• 40:42
  Go ahead. So leave me alone so I can, you
• 40:43
  know, just exercise this, this guilty pleasure and it's to
• 40:47
  watch. It's to watch award shows.
• 40:50
  OK? Yeah, I was, I was keeping you
• 40:52
  guys suspense. You weren't sure what I was
• 40:53
  gonna say watching award shows. I'm talking about watching like
• 40:57
  Grammys, the Oscars, the Grammys, the MTV awards,
• 41:00
  different award shows. By the way, I'm with you.
• 41:02
  And it's, by the way, it's a waning thing.
• 41:05
  It's, it's very, the viewership is really decreasing over the
• 41:08
  years, especially as Hollywood has become more and more
• 41:10
  political, political, exactly. More and more people, quite
• 41:12
  frankly, don't want to hear their celebrities talk about,
• 41:15
  you know, which candidate they believe in what, which party
• 41:18
  policies they, they stand behind.
• 41:20
  Because it's all, it's all fake. It's all at the end, everybody
• 41:23
  sees through it. But calling it a guilty pleasure
• 41:25
  makes it sound like you're watching it for a different
• 41:27
  reason that others are watching it for.
• 41:29
  Are you just watching it for to to see who wins the awards?
• 41:33
  And I call. It a guilty pleasure because I
• 41:34
  feel gross about myself while I'm watching it.
• 41:37
  As to why am I enjoying this? Why do I want to see these
• 41:40
  people giving each other awards? Interesting.
• 41:42
  Like what? I know that I should be better
• 41:44
  than this. I know.
• 41:45
  That it's like reading a. It's like reading a magazine
• 41:47
  called In Touch or like. What is that?
• 41:49
  Is that why you're enjoying it? Do you want to see who wins the
• 41:52
  awards? Are you more watching it for to
• 41:53
  see what people are wearing or what the performances are or
• 41:56
  something? Like, no, no, no, not what
• 41:57
  people are wearing. I'm watching it because I'm in
• 42:00
  tune with a lot of the things that are happening, like with
• 42:02
  the movies, the shows and the music, whatever it might be.
• 42:05
  And I'm curious to see, you know, I also like people that
• 42:08
  achieve things. I like to see accomplishments.
• 42:09
  At the end of the day, these people have a skill set.
• 42:12
  There's no question about it. And they do it at a very high
• 42:14
  level. So I could appreciate that.
• 42:17
  And therefore, I'd like to see, you know, what goes down, who
• 42:19
  wins that's competitive. This is the the height of
• 42:22
  competitiveness, you know, winning the ultimate award.
• 42:24
  And everybody is aiming for the same thing.
• 42:26
  And these people put years and years into their craft, you
• 42:29
  know, and it's, and there's very few people can do what what
• 42:32
  these people do. So there's a component to it, an
• 42:35
  element like a game show. It's like a sport.
• 42:37
  I really, really love it. But at the same time, I realized
• 42:40
  these people are no different than any of us.
• 42:43
  As a matter of fact, a lot of them are actually worse than the
• 42:46
  average person. I mean, you go into that room.
• 42:50
  I mean, if you have to combine everybody's egos, there's not
• 42:52
  enough space in the world that can hold that because they know
• 42:55
  that they're accomplishing great things they're getting paid very
• 42:58
  well for. So they're all very wealthy.
• 43:00
  They're very elite. It's like they're almost like
• 43:02
  they have this own little club and we're all outside observing
• 43:05
  what's going on. And I find this whole thing,
• 43:08
  there's like two sides to it. One side it's, it's, it's gross,
• 43:12
  it's disgusting, it's horrible. I think they're all bad people.
• 43:15
  I think they have, they have, you know, terrible morals.
• 43:19
  I guess there's only, but then again, there's a flip side to it
• 43:21
  where I admire, I respect, I can appreciate what they're bringing
• 43:25
  to the table. So we just had the what was the,
• 43:29
  the Golden Globes? This was like 2-3 weeks ago and
• 43:32
  it's like a build up to the big shows like like the Oscars which
• 43:35
  is coming up which I'm excited. About when's the Oscars?
• 43:37
  It's like, I think it's in the end of February.
• 43:39
  OK, cool. Really March, something like
• 43:40
  that, I think, I believe. And that's a really, really big
• 43:43
  event, you know? And I'm like, it's just weird to
• 43:46
  me that I battle this and a part of me really, really hates it.
• 43:49
  And I feel like America feels very, very similar.
• 43:52
  I feel like there are people who want to hate it because so many
• 43:55
  things you could say bad about it, but at the same time they're
• 43:58
  doing it's, it's very entertaining.
• 43:59
  So do you like when they have a comedian like Nikki Glaser who
• 44:03
  kind of rips them apart? Yeah, that's.
• 44:05
  The best part? That's the best part of the
• 44:07
  show, the shock value, the the comedic part of it.
• 44:10
  Ricky Gervais, I mean, he's been doing it for years.
• 44:12
  He's been doing it and they kept asking it to come back.
• 44:14
  It's amazing. And so when you call it a guilty
• 44:16
  pleasure, do you enjoy it more when the person getting, you
• 44:19
  know, quote UN quote picked on is like squirming in their seat,
• 44:21
  not enjoying it? Or do you like when they?
• 44:23
  Yeah, yeah, I, I enjoy that. I'm like laughing.
• 44:25
  Yeah, I'm rooting for, you know, for the the zingers and the one
• 44:29
  liners. And but it's just like, I feel
• 44:31
  like they're living in their own.
• 44:32
  Little or the smacks. Yeah, I mean that's that was.
• 44:36
  Crazy. I'm just saying that's what I
• 44:37
  watched that was crazy. I watch it for the proverbial
• 44:39
  snack that goes on throughout the it's entertaining.
• 44:42
  By the way, I have to say I'm sorry.
• 44:43
  This is why I watched the Super Bowl for the ads, right?
• 44:46
  Super Bowl is coming up. I watch it for the entertainment
• 44:48
  factor of the of the crowd and and I don't think I think what
• 44:51
  Scott's trying to say. Also it's not such a guilty.
• 44:53
  Pleasure. It's OK, you know, it's pretty
• 44:54
  guilty. I think I need to be a better
• 44:55
  person. I think I need to improve.
• 44:57
  I shouldn't be watching that like I shouldn't be enjoying it.
• 45:00
  Like if you think about the conceptually what it is, it's
• 45:02
  these people that are out of touch, out of with real day,
• 45:06
  everyday people. Yeah.
• 45:07
  And they're just like giving each other awards about, you
• 45:09
  know, who's but it. Sounds like what you really like
• 45:11
  is watching them getting taken down a.
• 45:12
  Pack But why? Why do I love it's not just that
• 45:14
  part, though. I like actually seeing, you know
• 45:16
  who's coming, who's winning, you know, and I'm I'm keeping up.
• 45:20
  Why? Why am I keeping up?
• 45:21
  Can I tell you why, by the way? Because you might appreciate
• 45:23
  art, culture. This is good things.
• 45:26
  This is not a guilty thing. That's my.
• 45:29
  Yeah, I, I, I think it's totally fine to have things that are,
• 45:32
  that you enjoy that aren't some, you know, for an, not a hike.
• 45:36
  Yeah. For an educational purpose, I
• 45:38
  feel better. I feel embarrassed.
• 45:40
  About it, no, I don't. Think for you, it's a time to
• 45:42
  shut your mind off a little bit and enjoy watching others.
• 45:45
  How do you shut your mind off Scott?
• 45:47
  Similarly, watching stupid TV shows.
• 45:51
  Anything that you're into lately that you got addicted to so.
• 45:53
  To speak, I've been watching. So my thing is when I'm on
• 45:56
  airplanes, I like to watch movies and for or, or shows.
• 45:59
  And I find that I was talking to this to someone about this
• 46:01
  yesterday. I find that when maybe you guys
• 46:03
  found this too, when you're watching a show or movie on an
• 46:06
  airplane, I get so much more locked into it and so much more
• 46:09
  kind of bought into it because I'm only focusing on that.
• 46:12
  And you want to ignore the noises from the engines.
• 46:14
  Yeah, yeah. You're not.
• 46:15
  You're. Literally shut off from the
• 46:16
  world. Yeah, you don't want.
• 46:17
  To love it. You got nothing else to do.
• 46:19
  Totally dialed in, Yeah. And so I've been watching Dexter
• 46:22
  because I wanna watch the new one that's coming out.
• 46:24
  So I never watched it originally.
• 46:26
  So I'm. Watching that was a very popular
• 46:28
  show for a long time, a really good show.
• 46:30
  I didn't know there's a new one coming out.
• 46:32
  I wasn't. Aware of the issue that I have
• 46:33
  with these things is that I literally subscribe to six
• 46:36
  different programs and it's not enough.
• 46:38
  I know like I I wanted to watch the NFL and I had to be a
• 46:40
  Paramount Plus subscriber. Suddenly I'm like every.
• 46:43
  There's something new. Comes are you?
• 46:44
  Kidding me? Don't worry, Michael, you're
• 46:45
  just going to have it for a week and then you're going to cancel
• 46:47
  it after. The I'm never going to cancel.
• 46:48
  Me neither. No, but you ever say you're
• 46:51
  going to cancel it? Of course I say I'm going to
• 46:52
  cancel. I have 32 subscriptions that I'm
• 46:55
  supposed to cancel. But I have to tell you
• 46:57
  something. I went to ChatGPT recently and I
• 46:59
  told it the movies that I enjoy from a comedy perspective and I
• 47:03
  asked it to pick 3 movies and I watched 1 and it was the
• 47:07
  funniest movie I've watched in a very long time by the way.
• 47:09
  That is interesting. Tell ChatGPT the movies, the TV
• 47:12
  shows that you've liked in the past and ask them to give you
• 47:15
  good recommendations based on on on your your theme of what you
• 47:18
  like. What a great idea.
• 47:19
  What was the movie? I'm looking it up I.
• 47:22
  Made a huge impression on it. What a great.
• 47:23
  Idea yeah, no, it's it's it's with an actor that's an Indian
• 47:26
  guy and he's so funny and the the premise of the movies are
• 47:30
  hilarious. It's not even like, you know,
• 47:33
  it's the reason why I really enjoyed it is because the
• 47:36
  comedic value to it was really every 5 minutes I was laughing
• 47:40
  out loud the type that I missed the joke and I had to rewind and
• 47:43
  you know, but I'm, I'm gonna look it up in a minute.
• 47:45
  Yeah, OK. Yeah.
• 47:47
  Got to know now. Alright, Michael, can I pick a
• 47:48
  number? Yeah, you can pick who picked
• 47:51
  the last number. That's all right, Scott.
• 47:53
  Ask Squishy for a number I. Think we only have time for one
• 47:55
  more number, Michael, each of these the statements.
• 47:57
  That's fine. It's it's OK, It's OK give.
• 47:59
  Me a number between 1:00 and 12:00, but don't pick eight.
• 48:01
  I'm gonna go 1111. Yeah. 11.
• 48:05
  My birthday. My birthday at 11.
• 48:06
  What do you mean, your birthday? When's your birthday?
• 48:09
  November. Oh, OK.
• 48:12
  Fun facts and stories. All right.
• 48:15
  We could talk about, for example, sports trivia.
• 48:18
  We could talk about the fact that a kosher restaurant in
• 48:22
  Israel just banned smartphones. What we can talk about?
• 48:28
  Basically, no one's ever going to that restaurant, so that's a
• 48:31
  great marketing strategy, how to not get customers to walk into.
• 48:34
  People, yeah, I mean, are they banning you, having it in your
• 48:36
  pocket? Are they banning you watching
• 48:38
  videos allowed at your table or are they banning?
• 48:41
  You not allowed to walk into the restaurant with a smartphone?
• 48:44
  Did you know the concept exists with Orthodox Jews?
• 48:46
  Hasidic mostly, but more no. I was saying more widely
• 48:51
  accepted for Hasidim, you know, in that world, but the more to
• 48:55
  use flip phones. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:56
  Did you know this concept in general?
• 48:58
  I've heard are there people that you can't WhatsApp?
• 49:00
  I've heard, I've heard from some Jewish parents that they they're
• 49:04
  getting their children flip phones.
• 49:06
  They call it kosher phones. Yeah, Yeah.
• 49:09
  Which by the way, makes sense, right?
• 49:11
  I mean, Jew or not, religious or not, the we can all agree that
• 49:15
  smartphones is really a entrance way to to hell.
• 49:19
  Let's let's call it what it is. I mean, that's pretty strong,
• 49:22
  but it. It is that strong.
• 49:25
  It is that strong and we all have and we all use it and we
• 49:27
  all need it for a lot of reasons and it serves us well and it
• 49:30
  enhances our lives. And, but at the end of the day,
• 49:32
  there's a very dark side to it. There's a really a dark side and
• 49:36
  and it destroys people's, destroys people's.
• 49:38
  Lives and as children are getting phones younger and
• 49:41
  younger they're they're they just have the ability to be
• 49:43
  exposed to things that. Way fast.
• 49:45
  How do? You mind if I ask you how?
• 49:46
  Old your kid is. My daughter's only 7.
• 49:48
  Seven, when are you gonna let her have a smartphone?
• 49:50
  I don't know. Have you thought about it?
• 49:51
  I've thought about it, but I don't, I'm not there yet.
• 49:53
  I mean, we're not even close to her having a smartphone.
• 49:56
  If you had to guess the age, I. Mean she plays games on all
• 49:58
  those things but. If you had to guess the age
• 50:00
  right now at 12, I would say at 12.
• 50:02
  I think so, yeah. Wow, that's actually very young.
• 50:04
  12 full smartphone access to everything.
• 50:07
  Yeah, I'm not so up. And I'm sure by that time
• 50:09
  they're going to have even more controls they could put on.
• 50:11
  But I know there's like parental controls that put on those.
• 50:13
  I'm not, I don't have to investigate.
• 50:15
  Those just yet? OK, that makes sense.
• 50:17
  But. But I'm guessing the store in
• 50:18
  Israel probably is doing this because they want to make like
• 50:20
  something unique about them is that, you know, the, the, the
• 50:23
  wives are probably going to want to say, you know, let's go to
• 50:26
  this place because they know that this is where we can
• 50:28
  connect. There's no phone, no
• 50:29
  distractions. So that's going to become their
• 50:31
  like their thing. That's become their thing,
• 50:33
  right? I guess that's the reason
• 50:34
  they're doing it, right? It's not a religious thing.
• 50:36
  It's not like they're saying we don't believe in smartphones.
• 50:38
  Well, they're saying that smartphones is not good for
• 50:41
  society and we don't accept it, just like there are synagogues.
• 50:43
  So the auction. Gives a sense.
• 50:45
  Yeah. That's what it's like.
• 50:46
  You can't go to certain synagogues and pull out a
• 50:48
  smartphone. There are people that will yell
• 50:49
  at you and throw you out. So there's restaurant things
• 50:51
  that they're at the same level as a synagogue.
• 50:53
  Or yes, they're giving it a a world where you're saying you
• 50:56
  can leave all that behind, come here and dine with us.
• 50:59
  Yeah, I think, I don't even know how that's legal.
• 51:00
  But there's, there's, there's something to be said for a
• 51:03
  smartphone is OK, but there's also the opportunity.
• 51:08
  We've all sat at a table with people when they're sitting on
• 51:10
  their phones when you're at a dinner table.
• 51:12
  It's ridiculous, it's rude, it's not appropriate.
• 51:16
  But it it's, it's OK to own a phone and use it and also have
• 51:21
  the, you know, wherewithal to not use it when you're in a
• 51:25
  conversation with people at a dinner table.
• 51:27
  Yeah, it's true. I mean, that makes sense.
• 51:28
  People take pictures of people all the time.
• 51:30
  Like, you know, when they're sitting together, 5 people,
• 51:31
  they're all on their phones, you know, like that happens and
• 51:35
  that's OK. But you know, we have filters in
• 51:37
  our in our. Are you gonna have a filter in
• 51:38
  your house, you think? I don't know what that is.
• 51:41
  Wow. What is that filter?
• 51:43
  That filters what comes through the Internet, Yeah.
• 51:45
  Like parental controls? Yeah, just parental controls
• 51:48
  you're saying you're gonna have on the phone.
• 51:49
  Like you'll allow your 12 year old to have TikTok.
• 51:53
  No, I think I'd be able to no. I mean I wouldn't want a 12 year
• 51:56
  old being on TikTok. Do you think anyone should have
• 51:59
  TikTok? Yeah, I mean, if an adult wants
• 52:02
  to look at TikTok, I don't have a problem with that.
• 52:04
  OK? I, I do think that a lot of
• 52:05
  these things are, you know, just like you're talking about
• 52:09
  watching the Grammys. It could be a guilty pleasure,
• 52:11
  but it lasts for an hour or two hours, or however long that
• 52:14
  shows. On and then I move on.
• 52:15
  People get stuck in this TikTok, in these things for hours every
• 52:19
  day. You know, it takes, yeah, it
• 52:20
  takes, yeah, takes a lot. Of time I mean we're we're
• 52:24
  living in a world now that TikTok is a hot topic, you know
• 52:27
  and is it back It's back I use temporarily I use cap cut to
• 52:32
  edit all my videos that I work on probably three to four hours
• 52:35
  a day for things that I post that and cap cuts was banned I
• 52:41
  have no idea why it was banned but it was banned for like 3-4
• 52:43
  days an app that I need to use to edit my videos was banned in
• 52:47
  the United. States Is it also a Chinese
• 52:49
  based company? I don't know.
• 52:51
  Anybody tell me I I. What's that?
• 52:55
  There you go. Why cap cut is part of TikTok?
• 52:56
  Why was TikTok ban though? It wasn't because.
• 52:58
  It's a Chinese based company, China, because this company,
• 53:01
  they feel therefore this company is beholden to the Chinese.
• 53:04
  Do you? Care that somebody's watching
• 53:06
  your every move through your phone.
• 53:07
  Does that bother you? I've gotten past it, but it it,
• 53:10
  there's something creepy about it, I think.
• 53:11
  OK, so to me, by the way, for the record, I it complements my
• 53:15
  life. I actually like it.
• 53:16
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:17
  I want you. I want you to tell me what my
• 53:19
  favorite movie is based on my history.
• 53:21
  I want you to advertise to me. Things that I enjoy, I don't
• 53:23
  want to be told about. Yeah, but I think there's
• 53:26
  there's a slippery slope fear there that OK.
• 53:28
  Yeah. Well now we can show you the
• 53:29
  movies you like, but now we can also what I don't.
• 53:34
  Know I don't have a fear. For it, I know, but there's
• 53:35
  something scary about it, isn't there?
• 53:36
  No, not to me. I I see the background scariness
• 53:39
  of it, but we're living in that world where it's helping us, so
• 53:42
  I'm not letting it. OK, now it's sending people in
• 53:45
  China your credit card number. Yeah, but you know what?
• 53:47
  They could send people and borrow, park my credit card
• 53:49
  number. I'd be more afraid to be honest.
• 53:51
  Doesn't matter when it becomes a security threat, Michael.
• 53:54
  Yeah, Especially at such a such a national level.
• 53:59
  Everything has to stop. I don't care.
• 54:01
  That's the number. One thing Sure.
• 54:02
  So stop using Facebook and everything else because Mark
• 54:04
  Zuckerberg admitted that they were listening to us, wasn't it?
• 54:06
  Really fine Taiwanese. Yeah, that's not the reason why
• 54:08
  they're banning TikTok because of it.
• 54:09
  It's not that they're sure we know this is going on.
• 54:12
  No listening to us that's. That's that's a separate
• 54:14
  conversation. That's the security.
• 54:16
  Has nothing to do with the tick. That's not the security that.
• 54:18
  You're talking about because it's China, Yeah.
• 54:20
  Yeah, it's going into the wrong. China has data for of US.
• 54:23
  That's potential. Threats.
• 54:24
  The problem, yeah, if it's So what happens is let's say it's
• 54:27
  owned by just a private person in in China and China comes to
• 54:32
  that person and says the government says we want you to
• 54:34
  turn over everything or even by law, legally in China, they have
• 54:38
  to turn it over, right? In America doesn't work that
• 54:40
  way. The government can't just come
• 54:41
  in and they they got to go Warrens.
• 54:43
  They got to go through the court system.
• 54:44
  They got to go through it's a process.
• 54:46
  And China, there is no process. That one person is the whole
• 54:50
  process. And therefore, America, we're
• 54:52
  worried about that. So we want to have that control
• 54:55
  in here. We want to store all that
• 54:55
  information here. Do you?
• 54:56
  Guys know why the day before Trump became president, TikTok
• 55:00
  banned it and then came like why didn't they wait?
• 55:03
  Like what happened? You know about this at all?
• 55:05
  Wait for what? Wait for the presidency to
• 55:07
  happen and see what transitions You don't know about that whole.
• 55:10
  I don't know, look a lot a lot. I don't know the, I don't know
• 55:13
  the why behind it. All a lot's been going on since
• 55:15
  Trump took office and it's one of my numbers here, but I'm just
• 55:18
  talking about it because on the TikTok, he was literally openly
• 55:21
  negotiating in front of the media about how to create ajv of
• 55:26
  TikTok. I felt like I was watching a
• 55:27
  nursing home conference like shark like, Oh my God, they're
• 55:31
  trying to do J VS like in front of the world.
• 55:33
  And but isn't that the best way to negotiate?
• 55:35
  It's unbelievable publicly. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 55:37
  You know that I I mentioned when you had that kind of leverage,
• 55:39
  He has all the leverage in the I met an operator once, a nursing
• 55:41
  home operator. It's like it was such a rude
• 55:44
  thing to do, but it's genius in a way, but like, I don't think I
• 55:47
  would ever do it. I'm curious of your opinion,
• 55:49
  especially both of you worked for Medline and in the nursing
• 55:52
  home business for so many years. He brought in two competing
• 55:55
  competing vendors that actually sold a supply and he asked them
• 55:59
  both in front of each other to to pitch and say why they're
• 56:03
  different. What do you think about?
• 56:04
  That Scott, that's interesting. It's certainly an uncomfortable
• 56:07
  position for the sales. You ever you ever been in that
• 56:09
  position? I'm trying to think I've
• 56:11
  definitely been, I've never been in that exact position.
• 56:13
  I've been, you know, back-to-back meetings with
• 56:15
  people, so where I see the competitor walking out or, or I.
• 56:18
  See, we just had that recently by the way.
• 56:19
  They printed a badge of someone named Joe that works in our
• 56:23
  office and they gave him the wrong badge of a of one of our
• 56:25
  competitor type of people. There's no competition to prime
• 56:28
  source, of course, but someone that does something a little bit
• 56:31
  similar. We're like you're speaking to
• 56:33
  the other Joe, and we found out because they gave the wrong
• 56:35
  badge to us by mistake. I think that's very arrogant of
• 56:38
  that person to do that. To bring in two vendors.
• 56:40
  And at the same time and then pitch against one another.
• 56:42
  And quite frankly, if I was one of those vendors, I would
• 56:45
  respectfully decline and I would walk out of the room and say,
• 56:48
  no, I'm not going to do that. I think it's unprofessional.
• 56:50
  And you're putting two people that are in similar businesses
• 56:54
  and they're both sort of like death fights, like you're
• 56:56
  putting people in a cage here for my entertainment.
• 56:59
  You 2GO and battle it out so. Actually, I have a guy I
• 57:01
  haven't. I have a nursing home owner that
• 57:03
  owns 35 nursing homes in Texas and in Wyoming, and we don't do
• 57:08
  any business with him. And he just started learning
• 57:10
  about the world of buying groups and saving money, and he's
• 57:13
  making a decision to use our company or another.
• 57:16
  And he wants us to sit there in front of the other guy and pitch
• 57:18
  it. I'd say $15 million contract and
• 57:21
  he's going to make a decision between the two of us.
• 57:23
  He guarantees to make this and he wants us to sit there with
• 57:26
  the competitor. You're not going.
• 57:27
  So if I was forewarned about this, Yeah, he's telling me.
• 57:30
  Yeah. Yeah, you're forewarned.
• 57:31
  I could now make a decision if I want to do it or not.
• 57:34
  Yeah, I could say, you know what?
• 57:35
  No, no. For the challenge, obviously I'm
• 57:36
  talking about the guy was forewarned he didn't.
• 57:37
  No, he wasn't. I remember that story.
• 57:39
  He had to. He was basically in in the spot.
• 57:42
  He put two people right there and say.
• 57:44
  All right, that is a different story.
• 57:45
  You're right. But yeah, it happened.
• 57:46
  That happened differently. Also that was that was really
• 57:49
  rude. I'm doing nobody might decline.
• 57:50
  I still don't give you a 60 billions because 3 million
• 57:53
  opportunity. The bottom line is.
• 57:54
  What are you gonna do? I'm curious with.
• 57:55
  You and my. What are you doing, girls?
• 57:57
  Are worth more. Than OK, So what are you doing?
• 57:58
  Are you deciding not to? Go.
• 57:59
  I don't know if I have that situation.
• 58:01
  Right now, let's talk about the moral.
• 58:02
  Issue, I mean, it's it's certainly uncomfortable, but I
• 58:05
  don't I don't know if it. You don't like that?
• 58:08
  You don't like that? If everybody gets prepared for
• 58:10
  it, then yes, I don't see it to be a big problem, Okay, And I
• 58:13
  would probably participate. Okay.
• 58:15
  But when the way this guy did it though, no, I think that that's
• 58:18
  completely sure. That's gross, I think.
• 58:20
  I'm agreeing with you, by the way, believe it or not.
• 58:23
  By the way, there's consent involved.
• 58:25
  Anything goes, I don't care whoever you want.
• 58:27
  Like that's fine. I have no problem with anything.
• 58:28
  If somebody asks and gives that person the choice and that
• 58:31
  person has the right to answer everyone, I don't care what he
• 58:33
  asks, I don't care what he answers.
• 58:34
  Does consent involve everybody? Adults.
• 58:36
  Do whatever you want, who cares? It's difference.
• 58:39
  Agreed, unless you're a therapist.
• 58:40
  Yeah. Now when you put in the spot in
• 58:42
  that instance, you don't have so much consent anymore because you
• 58:45
  feel pressured. You don't want to lose the deal.
• 58:46
  So you're thinking quickly and you're you're not acting really
• 58:49
  based on what you're what you would really want to do in those
• 58:52
  instances. I think that's that's a bad
• 58:54
  thing. Yeah, right.
• 58:56
  Yeah, I agree. I agree 100%.
• 58:59
  Are you so shocked that I agree? Like now what?
• 59:03
  Yeah, the podcast is over now. You know what I didn't get?
• 59:06
  I didn't get to choose a number. So let's have up with you
• 59:08
  choosing, OK? But yeah, so you know all the
• 59:11
  numbers. I honestly don't know what
• 59:12
  numbers are which. I know that you said so.
• 59:14
  Give me the papers. You have a set of.
• 59:16
  Papers with that 11. I know that.
• 59:18
  Thank you. I chose 11.
• 59:19
  You chose 8, Scott. All right, Michael, go ahead.
• 59:22
  I'm going to choose one. You obviously know what one is.
• 59:26
  I mean that one you remember right?
• 59:28
  Wow, OK, one I didn't remember this one didn't remember this.
• 59:31
  No one is Israel and hostage situation.
• 59:34
  And yeah, I just want to tell you, I'll start off with saying
• 59:37
  that I just went to ChatGPT and ChatGPT and I have a very, very
• 59:44
  contentious relationship and it it really works well for me.
• 59:46
  And, and, and David in our office, our COO mentioned it in
• 59:49
  our company wide meeting and he said, I'm giving you all a gift.
• 59:54
  He looked at all of us and says, I'm giving you all a gift, an
• 59:56
  assistant, I'm giving you a personal virtual assistant, the
• 1:00:00
  smartest virtual assistant in the world.
• 1:00:02
  And it cost me only $20.00 a month, right?
• 1:00:04
  And he said ChatGPT and I encourage you all to use it.
• 1:00:07
  And he told this to me a year ago and I started using ChatGPT.
• 1:00:10
  ChatGPT told me that five hostages were released and
• 1:00:14
  there's only 10 left. And I said, are you kidding me?
• 1:00:17
  Aren't you web-based and connected to the Internet?
• 1:00:19
  Can't you check that again? And again it said, I apologize,
• 1:00:21
  I'm sorry, I looked it up and and then again, I had to ask him
• 1:00:24
  to find So to the ChatGPT tell me that Donald Trump is still
• 1:00:29
  only has been the 45th president and he hasn't been elected yet.
• 1:00:33
  ChatGPT web-based paying $20.00 a month.
• 1:00:36
  And I'm like, wow, this is very scary.
• 1:00:38
  I can't rely on this information.
• 1:00:39
  I can't rely on ChatGPT right. Although AI is making strides
• 1:00:43
  and it's going to half a trillion dollars in methods is.
• 1:00:45
  Not adding up for it doesn't make sense what you're saying.
• 1:00:47
  You want me to show it to? You.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah. If I type in the ChatGPT right
• 1:00:49
  now, Donald J Trump, who is the When was he?
• 1:00:53
  President, You know what? Maybe.
• 1:00:54
  Maybe he's. Going to tell me he was
• 1:00:55
  president eight years ago or 4 four years ago.
• 1:00:59
  Did you do this three days before?
• 1:01:01
  He doesn't. Make sense?
• 1:01:01
  Is what you're. Saying I know, right?
• 1:01:03
  Absolutely. I know.
• 1:01:03
  I was actually with somebody when it happened to me.
• 1:01:05
  And it didn't happen to me a few days ago.
• 1:01:06
  It happened to me yesterday. And that's two days after he was
• 1:01:09
  made president. My favorite part is we're just
• 1:01:13
  calling you a liar. I know he must have typed it in
• 1:01:16
  a certain way that it it it gave him the answer.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah, Yeah. But I.
• 1:01:20
  Sure, sure, sure. Well, listen, we get I I've.
• 1:01:23
  Used too blatant, Michael. I've used tragedy would have
• 1:01:25
  been called out thought this publicly.
• 1:01:26
  It's too blatant. It's What if I prove it to you?
• 1:01:29
  That's very flagrant. There's no way.
• 1:01:31
  No way, you're saying? Wait a minute, Michael.
• 1:01:33
  I just did it. And I just typed in when was
• 1:01:35
  Trump president? And said Donald Trump served as
• 1:01:38
  the 45th President of the United States from January 20th, 2017
• 1:01:42
  to January 20th, 2021. That's the full answer.
• 1:01:47
  Right. Does that not scary, you say?
• 1:01:49
  No, I I mine was much worse. No, no, that's not that's not
• 1:01:52
  you asked when was he president, right.
• 1:01:54
  So now ask it who is the president or something like
• 1:01:57
  that. You know, like.
• 1:01:59
  Here we go. Is Donald Trump the president?
• 1:02:01
  Here we go. I'm sorry guys, I have it right.
• 1:02:03
  Here I thought, this matters because obviously everybody
• 1:02:05
  knows anyway. No one's living under.
• 1:02:07
  A. As of today, January 23rd, I
• 1:02:10
  just wrote in Who is the President?
• 1:02:11
  As of today, January 23rd, 2025, the President of the United
• 1:02:14
  States is Joe Biden. Oh my God.
• 1:02:16
  He has been in office since January 20th, 2021.
• 1:02:21
  Well, it doesn't make sense. I'm missing something?
• 1:02:23
  You're not missing. Something they're a
• 1:02:24
  technicality. No, there's a bias on ChatGPT.
• 1:02:26
  I'm swear to you guys. This is frustrating to me.
• 1:02:29
  It's frustrating because I'm relying on it for information
• 1:02:31
  and then I I have a relationship with that.
• 1:02:33
  I'm yelling at it. You can't rely so much on AIAI.
• 1:02:36
  Is that's crazy. You can't rely on a web-based
• 1:02:39
  ChatGPT that you pay $20.00 a month that was created by a
• 1:02:41
  person that we're investing half a trillion dollars into.
• 1:02:45
  It's scary, sorry. It's a brand new technology.
• 1:02:48
  I'm, I'm playing devil's advocate here, but I mean, yeah,
• 1:02:51
  no, that's why we'll always need people.
• 1:02:53
  Guys, this conversation was amazing.
• 1:02:56
  I love it. I love where it's going.
• 1:02:57
  I love the couch, you know, environment.
• 1:02:59
  This is where the new setup is. You know, thank you, Scott, for
• 1:03:01
  joining us. My pleasure.
• 1:03:03
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• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:16
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• 1:03:19
  Before I let you go Scott, did you enjoy this though?
• 1:03:21
  I did. I did.
• 1:03:22
  Would you come back and do this with us again?
• 1:03:23
  I would love to. I think it went amazing.
• 1:03:24
  Thank you everyone for joining and we'll see you next time.
• 1:03:27
  Thanks for having me. All right, it's a wrap.