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Steve Price | 21 February · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price. Welcome to Friday Night's Steve
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Speaker 1: Price with You. A Pack program tonight concentrating on a
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Speaker 1: potential dirty tricks campaign from federal labor in Western Sydney
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Speaker 1: to another criminal visa bungle, and horrific scenes at that
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Speaker 1: latest handover of deceas deceased Israeli hamas hostages. Now coming
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Speaker 1: up on the program, Opposition Senate Leader Bridget Mackenzie on
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Speaker 1: the laughable explanation from Labour's Tony Burt, the Home Affairs
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Speaker 1: Minister lamely trying to explain away six thousand citizenships being
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Speaker 1: given away over the next three days in Western Sydney seriously.
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Speaker 1: Also tonight, the laatest scandal all the way at the
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Speaker 1: very top of Victoria Police a week on from Chief
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Speaker 1: Commissioner Shane Patton being shown the door, one of his deputies,
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Speaker 1: Neil Patterson, also being told he's out of contract, raises
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Speaker 1: the question for me, why are police appointments in the
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Speaker 1: hands of a government that has lost control of Melbourne streets.
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Speaker 1: Former Homicide Squad Detective Charlie Berzina will join me in
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Speaker 1: the studio. At appalling scenes in the latest hostage exchange,
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Speaker 1: we showed you that first last night on Kredlin. This
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Speaker 1: is in Israel as bomb attacks are hit on televiv buses,
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Speaker 1: prompt response in the West Bank class. If Peter Dutton
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Speaker 1: wants to win the upcoming election, he's going to need
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Speaker 1: to take back territory from the Teals Star candidate Emilia
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Speaker 1: Hamer is taking on Monique Ryan in Couyong and she
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Speaker 1: joins us shortly but first. At that election to be
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Speaker 1: held no later than May. The Albanize government needs to
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Speaker 1: shore up marginal seats in Western Sydney. We all know
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Speaker 1: that already under pressure from the large Muslim community over
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Speaker 1: what that community perceives as a lack of support for Palestine.
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Speaker 1: Labour needs every vote in Western Sydney. It can get
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Speaker 1: some of those seats on an ifitch. Bearing that in mind,
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Speaker 1: can you believe how stupid Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke
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Speaker 1: thinks we all are here. He is earlier today on
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Speaker 1: Sky News talking from Olympic Park where six thousand citizenships
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Speaker 1: will be handed out to New Australians over the next
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Speaker 1: three days with him in attendance.
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Speaker 2: This is a good opportunity. I had no idea which
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Speaker 2: way these individuals are going to vote. You know, I
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Speaker 2: don't know if you know which way they're going to vote.
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Speaker 2: They're people who want to make a pledgure commitment to Australia.
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Speaker 1: Does he really think we believe that six thousand over
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Speaker 1: three days and we're told there will be twelve thousand
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Speaker 1: and five hundred in total in Western Sydney in advance
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Speaker 1: of the federal election. And I don't need to remind
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Speaker 1: everyone you need citizenship to vote and you must have
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Speaker 1: that bit of paper in your hand a week before
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Speaker 1: polling opens. I mean coincidence hardly. And one of those
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Speaker 1: seats Labor wants to win back is Fowler, where they
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Speaker 1: tried to shoehorn the lamentable Christina kannearly into that seat
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Speaker 1: last election, only to lose it to the Independent Dialegue.
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Speaker 1: Now he doesn't like us by this unseemly rush with
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Speaker 1: Burke in attendance to give out citizenships.
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Speaker 3: I have never seen a minister attending any of our
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Speaker 3: citizenship ceremonies and it's quite to suddenly see a minister
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Speaker 3: turning up to be part of it was quite surprising.
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Speaker 3: And to do it just on the even of a
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Speaker 3: federal election. You know, people can be very cynical about that.
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Speaker 1: She calls it out and she's a local candidate is
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Speaker 1: doing a great job in her electric Now Tony Burke
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Speaker 1: denies the fast tracking allegations and I'll catch up with
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Speaker 1: Senator Bridget McKenzie in just a moment. He says, Look,
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Speaker 1: I can't hold ceremonies well, parliaments on so that's why
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Speaker 1: I'm here today. As I said, Burt thinks we are stupid.
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Speaker 1: He even took a swipe at critics of those mass
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Speaker 1: signing ups, saying, quote, show a bit of patriotism. Really,
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Speaker 1: Tony Burke calling anyone wondering why this branch stacking operation
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Speaker 1: was underway an Australian, give me a break, we know
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Speaker 1: what you're up to. Now. Just before we get to
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Speaker 1: Senator mackenzie, and still on citizenship, what about this. A
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Speaker 1: double murderer convicted of a contract killing is going to
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Speaker 1: avoid deportation from Australia after a tribunal said he had
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Speaker 1: strong ties to our country. A double murderer, he's a
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Speaker 1: US citizen. This bloat. Robert Maine. According to the Australian Today,
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Speaker 1: he was jailed well. He was sentenced to thirty three
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Speaker 1: years in jail. Over two murders, one an armed robbery
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Speaker 1: on a drug house. He's been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He
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Speaker 1: shot a bloke during that armed robbie of the dealer's
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Speaker 1: house and then on Raman, so he's in prison on
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Speaker 1: ramand The Australian reports he used a fatal dose of
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Speaker 1: heroin to murder a inmate to stop him testifying against him.
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Speaker 1: He is seventy years old and was sentenced to three
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Speaker 1: life sentences, but somehow he's been released from jail back
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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. Part of the issue here is that
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Speaker 1: he's part of that cohort of criminals freed over those
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Speaker 1: High Court decisions. We are crazy in this country, absolutely crazy.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is National Senate Leader Bridget mackenzie. Great
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Speaker 1: to see you. Can we start off with some breaking
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Speaker 1: news which I know you're aware of. I'd like to
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Speaker 1: get your thoughts. This is where a number of domestic
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Speaker 1: flights between Australia and New Zealand or New Zealand Australia
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Speaker 1: have been diverted around the Chinese warships that are off
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Speaker 1: New South Wales and they've been diverted around there because
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Speaker 1: we're told there was live fire involved. Here's the PM
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Speaker 1: what he had to say.
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Speaker 4: Well, China issued, in accordance with practice, an alert that
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Speaker 4: it would be conducting these activities, including the potential use
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Speaker 4: of live fire. It's outside of Australia's Exclusive Economic zone.
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Speaker 4: I've spoken with the Chief of the Defense Force, the
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Speaker 4: Defense Minister, Richard Marles, the Foreign Minister, and Penny Wong,
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Speaker 4: and I've also had contact with the New Zealand Prime
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Speaker 4: Minister Chris of Reluxen this afternoon. It is the case
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Speaker 4: that the notice was given when that occurs airlines.
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Speaker 1: Recording to the PM, it's not a big deal, nothing
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Speaker 1: strange to see, nothing to see here. But he's also
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Speaker 1: called his Defense Minister, his Foreign Minister, the New Zealand
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister. What is it? Is it something to worry
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Speaker 1: about or not?
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Speaker 5: Well, given this guy's track record, the fact that he's
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Speaker 5: made those four phone calls, I think shows that it
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Speaker 5: is a big deal. Our Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty
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Speaker 5: has released a statement, you know, raising his concerns around
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Speaker 5: the gunboat omus See being used by China. The fact
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Speaker 5: is this isn't the first incident where the Chinese People's
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Speaker 5: Liberation Army has attempted to intimidate Australian Defense Force personnelity.
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Speaker 5: And I think what we're seeing here is China flexing
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Speaker 5: its muscles, sending a message to the United States and
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Speaker 5: obviously the United States allies being Australia and New Zealand.
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Speaker 5: It's good to see Air Services Australia doing their job
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Speaker 5: and other air traffic controlers ensuring that civilian traffic across
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Speaker 5: between New Zealand and Australia is being taken care of
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Speaker 5: and out of harm's way. But this is a significant
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Speaker 5: concern and I think the Prime Minister needs to be
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Speaker 5: much more forthcoming.
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Speaker 6: If this is.
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Speaker 5: Nothing to see here, they just issue a warning and
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Speaker 5: they're allowed to use live artillery, shall we say, within
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Speaker 5: kuwe of Australia New Zealand. And the fact that he
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Speaker 5: actually called the Foreign Minister, the Defense Minister and the
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Speaker 5: Prime Minister of another country, I think shows there is
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Speaker 5: something to be concerned about.
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Speaker 1: I think about these things in a very simple way.
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Speaker 1: He's held that media conference in Woollongong. He's out there
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Speaker 1: selling this story of Australia become maintaining an ability to
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Speaker 1: manufacture steel. Wouldn't you stand up before the media with
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Speaker 1: the people behind him and say, listen, we're here to
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Speaker 1: talk about steel. Before I do, I need to tell
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Speaker 1: you about what's happened in out and out off Sydney,
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Speaker 1: where we've got live fire from Chinese warships and planes
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Speaker 1: being diverted. Wouldn't that be the sensible, strong leadership way
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Speaker 1: to go, Well, Steve, I.
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Speaker 5: Think you're dead right. This guy needs a strong media
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Speaker 5: pack to actually draw him out on just every day
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Speaker 5: a update for the community around the whole range of subjects.
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Speaker 5: He refuses to tell us when a national security committee's
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Speaker 5: been called, refuses to provide information that would give the
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Speaker 5: community some level of comfort that he's actually in control
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Speaker 5: across his brief and is being briefed appropriately by domestic
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Speaker 5: and international agencies. The fact you can never get a
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Speaker 5: straight answer from this guy, and I agree that's exactly
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Speaker 5: what he should have done, because I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 5: The passengers on those flights between the East Coast of
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Speaker 5: Australia and New Zealand will know something's up because it
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Speaker 5: won't have taken the two and a half hours it
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Speaker 5: usually does to scoot across the ditch. So he needs
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Speaker 5: to be much more forthcoming because that then doesn't lead
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Speaker 5: to everyone's second guessing whether he's across it or not
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Speaker 5: and able to keep Australian safe.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of explanations, and one that doesn't pass the pub test.
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Speaker 1: In all your time in politics, you ever heard about
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Speaker 1: twelve and a half thousand people being given citizenship ceremony,
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Speaker 1: six thousand across three days out at Sydney Homebush, out
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Speaker 1: at the Homebush Stadium. And he says, oh, well, I
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Speaker 1: don't know how these people are going to vote. I
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Speaker 1: just reckon if you've been waiting to get into Australia
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Speaker 1: passport and government turns up at Homebush, you might have
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Speaker 1: that image in your head. I mean, this just does
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Speaker 1: not pass the pub test. And then we had the
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Speaker 1: Australian Electric Commission showing on the big screen reminding people
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Speaker 1: they need to vote.
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Speaker 5: I mean, this is incredibly concerning. In fourteen years, Steve,
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Speaker 5: I've never seen the Home Affairs Minister oversee a citizenship ceremony.
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Speaker 5: I've never seen a citizenship ceremony of six thousand people.
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Speaker 5: We've got twelve and a half thousand people highly GEO
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Speaker 5: targeted to Western Sydney. When you think about die Lee's
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Speaker 5: seat of Fowler, she beat the Labor Party with three thousand,
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Speaker 5: almost three thousand votes would change that seat, Sir Andrew
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Speaker 5: Charlton's seat of Paramatta seven seven hundred. People changing the
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Speaker 5: way they want to vote would flip that seat for
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Speaker 5: the Coalition as well. And so I don't think this
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Speaker 5: is very concerning on the eve of an election to
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Speaker 5: have this amount of people who've been waiting for a
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Speaker 5: long time to have the great privilege to be Australian citizens,
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Speaker 5: to be able to vote and help us build a prosperous,
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Speaker 5: sustainable Australia going forward. For them and their children as well,
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Speaker 5: they will be very very grateful, shall we say, to
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Speaker 5: the people the person who actually made that happen for
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Speaker 5: them and their families. So whilst of course the Prime
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Speaker 5: the Minister doesn't know how these citizens ship recipients will vote,
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Speaker 5: but we do know that they're going to be very
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Speaker 5: thankful for the citizenship that has been bestowed upon them.
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Speaker 5: And it's very hard not to be cynical because it's
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Speaker 5: very geo targeted. Imagine tell you Devenport's not having citizenship ceremony,
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Speaker 5: you know, a couple of weeks before an election, and
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Speaker 5: neither is Sheperdon. It's all in Western citatage that should
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Speaker 5: ring alarm bells.
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Speaker 1: Imagine the letterboxing that's going to go on after this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to ask you about Victorian
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Speaker 1: Teel Mpzo Mackenzie. She was on Sky today. She's accused
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Speaker 1: the Coalition of dog whistling. Have look.
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Speaker 7: Unfortunately this sounds like the usual coalition dog whistling on migration.
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Speaker 7: What is happening in Western Sydney. I've seen no evidence
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Speaker 7: for what the senators describing nor what the opposition leader
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Speaker 7: is describing.
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Speaker 1: Not really come on, yeah, no, I was.
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Speaker 5: The senator she was talking about. So Zoe Daniels in
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Speaker 5: her luxurious seat that includes places like Brighton in Melbourne,
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Speaker 5: isn't having six thousand people being sworn in by a
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Speaker 5: labor minister. So she has the luxury, shall we say,
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Speaker 5: of making those calls. I've been out in Western Sydney.
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Speaker 5: I know how many people want that great opportunity to
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Speaker 5: become an Australian citizen and how lucky they and their
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Speaker 5: families will be for that great privilege. And I think
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Speaker 5: her saying where dog whistling says more about Zoey Daniels
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Speaker 5: than it does about Peter Dutton or myself having concerns
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Speaker 5: about who comes to this country, the manner in which
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Speaker 5: they arrive, the skills they bring with them, and where
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Speaker 5: they're going to live. I think we should be deporting
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Speaker 5: those who have been part of anti Semitic attack since
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Speaker 5: October the seventh last, you know, in twenty twenty three. Absolutely,
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Speaker 5: because we have the luxury of being able to choose
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Speaker 5: who comes and helps build this country with us, and
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Speaker 5: we want to pilp pick people who want to get ahead,
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Speaker 5: who want to provide for them their family, who love
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Speaker 5: our country, love our values and want to be part
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Speaker 5: of it, not people who hate what we're about, and
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Speaker 5: who actually, you know, attack Australian Jewish communities, our Gaide
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Speaker 5: community and indeed aren't that big fans of women in
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Speaker 5: positions of power.
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Speaker 1: So I have a good weekend. We'll talk again soon
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Speaker 1: that Senator Bridget McKenzie. There there will be developments on
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Speaker 1: this issue. With the warships. Let's return to that now.
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Speaker 1: Senior analysts at the Australia's Strategic Policy Institute, Malcolm Davis
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Speaker 1: joins us. So we've got three warships, Malcolm, off the
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Speaker 1: coast of New South Wales. I think about two decay, Yes,
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Speaker 1: they're outside our economic zone. But we now learn and
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister seems to say, oh, well, there's not
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Speaker 1: much to see here. That the Chinese have let the
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Speaker 1: Australian I guess defense Minister or the Australian military know
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Speaker 1: that they're going to use live ammunition in an exercise
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Speaker 1: of Australia and so we've got to divert commercial airliners.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of anything like this before? Well, certainly.
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Speaker 8: I think the key message that what we should be
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Speaker 8: taken from this is not that the Chinese are operating
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Speaker 8: within the bounds of international law. Yes they are, that's accurate.
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Speaker 8: The key message is that the Chinese are sending us
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Speaker 8: a strategic signal that they can project power against Australia
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Speaker 8: whenever they want and deploy their most powerful warships off
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Speaker 8: our coast, relatively close by, and essentially demonstrate their military prowess. Now,
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Speaker 8: this is an important strategic signal that which we should
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Speaker 8: be should not be ignoring. We should be recognizing that
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Speaker 8: the Chinese are serious about projecting their maritime and naval
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Speaker 8: capabilities much further out, and they'll probably be doing this.
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Speaker 1: Again again in the future.
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Speaker 8: So I do think that this does send a message
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Speaker 8: that we need to start thinking seriously about how we
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Speaker 8: defend our air and maritime approaches more effectively.
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Speaker 1: I mean, is it sending a message also to the
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Speaker 1: Americans that look, if we want to go down through
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Speaker 1: that part of the Pacific, we'll do it and there's
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Speaker 1: nothing you can do to stop us.
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Speaker 8: Well, you know, part of the flotilla of these ships
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Speaker 8: is a type fifty five Ren High class cruiser, which
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Speaker 8: is the most powerful warship that the Chinese operator has
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Speaker 8: one hundred and twelve vertical launch system missile cells that
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Speaker 8: can carry large numbers of missiles. They sent another one
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Speaker 8: of these Ren High class cruisers out to Banuatu, so
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Speaker 8: that in itself suggests that they're determined to project power
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Speaker 8: into the South Pacific. So I think that it does
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Speaker 8: send a message to into Pe, com to the Americans,
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Speaker 8: and to us that China is about becoming a blue
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Speaker 8: water naval power, projecting power out when it wants against
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Speaker 8: whom it wants.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Middle East. Israel now has labeled
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Speaker 1: hamas monsters over that horrific way. We've all seen them pictures.
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Speaker 1: They were just horrendous when we brought them last night
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Speaker 1: on Kredlin way they staged. That handover of the bodies
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Speaker 1: of four dead hostages was horrific. Handover was meant to
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Speaker 1: include the bodies of Shirri Bibas and her two young sons.
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Speaker 1: But the IDF have now released a statement saying, look,
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Speaker 1: sure his body was not among the four that were released.
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Speaker 1: Israel's now accused Harmas of violating the cease fire. Do
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Speaker 1: you think this is a deliberate move by Hamas to
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Speaker 1: agitate Israel again, to perhaps provoke them again.
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Speaker 8: Look, Hamas does not want peace. They may have signed
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Speaker 8: a document a court that would lead to a ceasefire,
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Speaker 8: but that cease fire will give them time to regroup
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Speaker 8: and reconstitute their forces so that they can begin the
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Speaker 8: war again. Let's not forget it was Hamas, backed by Iran,
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Speaker 8: that started this war on October seventh, twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 8: and Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. They're
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Speaker 8: dedicated to the eradication of the Jewish people. So when
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Speaker 8: you see what's happening with the return of the hostages,
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Speaker 8: and particularly what happened today with the return of those
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Speaker 8: dead hostages, it sends a signal about what Hamas is
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Speaker 8: really about.
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Speaker 1: They are monsters.
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Speaker 8: They do seek the destruction of Israel, and they're basically
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Speaker 8: biding their time and waiting until such time as they
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Speaker 8: can begin the war again.
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Speaker 1: Well, you had that West Bank, the buses that came
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Speaker 1: out of the West Bank, and they were found to
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Speaker 1: be carrying explosives. They exploded in central Israel. Thank god
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Speaker 1: there was no great loss of life. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how that happened. Police have described it as a terror attack.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's coming from all sides again on his Israel.
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Speaker 1: I mean, and it looks like the Palestine and their
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Speaker 1: cohorts are just poking the bear again.
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Speaker 8: As I said, you know, the Hamas group has Bolla,
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Speaker 8: the Hooties, all backed by Iran. They're not interested in peace.
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Speaker 8: What they want to do is exploit the current seas
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Speaker 8: Fire agreement that Israel's come under a lot of pressure
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Speaker 8: to sign, so that they can regroup their forces, rebuild
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Speaker 8: their forces, and launch the war again. Humus have actually
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Speaker 8: been quite open about it. They've said that they're going
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Speaker 8: to launch more October seven style attacks. So I do
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Speaker 8: think the Israelis do have a great deal to be
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Speaker 8: concerned about here. They're surrounded by adversaries that want the
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Speaker 8: destruction of Israel. When people sing about from the river
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Speaker 8: to the sea, what they don't seem to be understanding
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Speaker 8: is that in actual fact, Humas and has Bollah and
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Speaker 8: Iran don't just want Palestine to be free, they want
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Speaker 8: the destruction of Israel and the destruction of the Jewish people.
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Speaker 8: So I do think that, you know, we are facing
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Speaker 8: a long term threat here in the Middle East in
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Speaker 8: terms of radical Islamist groups Hamas, Hezbollah, as well as
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Speaker 8: Iran launching attacks on an ongoing basis against Israel.
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Speaker 1: Now I can just before you go, what do you
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Speaker 1: make of the tension between the US and Ukraine with
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Speaker 1: the comments from Donald Trump, of course about Vladimir valinsa Zelenski.
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Speaker 8: Look, it's really worrying because Donald Trump seems to be
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Speaker 8: throwing aside everything that we have struggled to achieve, not
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Speaker 8: just in regards to Ukraine, but everything since nineteen forty
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Speaker 8: five in terms of transatlantic security, America, relations between the
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Speaker 8: United States and Europe, the NATO Alliance, everything, and he
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Speaker 8: seems to be aligning with the adversaries of the West.
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Speaker 8: Putin and I think that this is very worrying. Indeed,
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Speaker 8: because it doesn't just create the potential situation whereby Putin
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Speaker 8: Wolf feel emboldened to launch not only further wars against
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Speaker 8: Ukraine but also attack NATO directly, but it also resonates
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Speaker 8: in jong Nanhai in Beijing, and Xijiping and his people
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Speaker 8: will be looking at how Trump is capitulating to Putin
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Speaker 8: and thinking, well, if Trump is prepared to do a
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Speaker 8: deal with Putin over Ukraine, he'll be prepared to do
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Speaker 8: a deal with US over Taiwan. And so it will
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Speaker 8: just embolden China to actually be more aggressive and perhaps
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Speaker 8: move against Taiwan sooner that it had planned to do.
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Speaker 1: So Thanks a lot, we'll catch up with you soon.
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Speaker 1: Now coming up after the break, I don't need to
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Speaker 1: tell anyone watching us in Victoria, but that states in
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Speaker 1: the middle of a crime meltdown, teenage home invasions, dangerous
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Speaker 1: high speed car chases, street crimes with bladed weapons, and
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Speaker 1: a tobacco torching vape shops. Also in the middle of
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Speaker 1: this mess, the labor government of Jacinda Allen has now
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Speaker 1: gone out and got rid of not just the Chief
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Speaker 1: Commissioner showne. Patten to one of his deputies as well.
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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with former veteran detective Charlie Bersina in
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Speaker 1: the studio. Up next, Welcome back to Steve Price, with
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Speaker 1: you in the middle of a crime wave in Victoria.
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Speaker 1: That's I don't think he's ever been seen before. Two
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Speaker 1: of the most senior police have been pushed out by
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Speaker 1: the state government of Premier Allen Now Incredibly senior politicians,
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Speaker 1: including Alan's, including Justina Allan dubbed the Chief Commissioner Shane
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Speaker 1: Patton a week ago. We were on air when that happened.
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Speaker 1: Now today, without even giving him the courtesy of talking
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Speaker 1: to him, pattern was out the door. That's appalling in
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Speaker 1: my view. Joining me now is former homicide detective Charlie Bersina.
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Speaker 1: Great to see you again. Can you explain what's happening here?
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Speaker 9: Well, just in my opinion, what's happening is given the
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Speaker 9: officer of the Police Chief commission who's a political officer.
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Speaker 9: They're all under contract Polase commander under contract. And I
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Speaker 9: think when he took it on in twenty two thousand,
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Speaker 9: going to poison Chalice, he's paying for the legacy of
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Speaker 9: previous Chief commissioners from two thousand and we never recovered
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Speaker 9: from that. And I think that Shane was starting to
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Speaker 9: push back the government and they didn't like it, but
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Speaker 9: they needed a reason to get rid of him, and
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Speaker 9: I think incomes of Police Union put in a vote
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Speaker 9: and know confidence that played right into their hands. And
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Speaker 9: then you've got Neil Patterson of recent times, Neil Patty Commissioner.
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Speaker 9: He went because he called it out just recently at
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Speaker 9: a public forum, at a crime forum to the residents
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Speaker 9: out in the eastern suburbs of saying, we are locking
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Speaker 9: him up, the youth crime. We're locking them up, but
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Speaker 9: it's catch and release, so what more can we do?
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Speaker 9: We were relying on the government, So back onto the government. Bang,
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Speaker 9: he's gone.
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Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the worst crime wave that
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Speaker 1: I can remember. You and I have lived in Victoria
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Speaker 1: for a long time. We've covered crime together for a
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Speaker 1: lot of the time. I can't believe thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
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Speaker 1: and sixteen year old kids breaking into people's homes, threatening them,
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Speaker 1: stealing cars and going on two hundred are in our
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Speaker 1: chasers with the police. I mean, can you believe this
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Speaker 1: has happening?
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Speaker 9: A beggar's belief because ultimately they're armed with machetes, they're
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Speaker 9: taking a sneak, they were initially sneaking into houses taking keys.
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Speaker 1: That stopped.
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Speaker 9: They started waking the people up and threatening with the machetes.
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Speaker 9: Now ninety times or fifty or sixty times bat on ba.
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Speaker 10: Bay on ball.
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Speaker 9: How do you think the police officers feel? They absolutely crushed?
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Speaker 9: What's the point of us chasing them? Putting their lives
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Speaker 9: at risk? And poor community? They're in fear. We should
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Speaker 9: not be in fear. And it all falls back on
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Speaker 9: the government stoof.
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Speaker 1: So the government doesn't like it when the police pushed back,
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Speaker 1: and so these bail laws need to be correct upened up.
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Speaker 1: The government doesn't want to put young offenders in custody.
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Speaker 1: A lot of that came out of the europ Justice
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Speaker 1: Commission and the Indigenous push against having Indigenous kids locked up. Correct,
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Speaker 1: But how can you bail someone fifty times? Correct?
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Speaker 9: Comes a time the safety of the community in any
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Speaker 9: state of this great nation of a house have to
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Speaker 9: be protected. That's the number one priority. So now Rick
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Speaker 9: NuGen is pushing that envelope. So changing the captain or
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Speaker 9: changing the bus drive a midstream is that going to
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Speaker 9: change things? Rick Nugent now needs the tools and put
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Speaker 9: them on notice. You know what, he'll get a few crumbs,
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Speaker 9: But I think ultimately we'll be sitting here probably in
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Speaker 9: two or three years time and saying the same thing.
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Speaker 1: I've written about this a lot. The reaction I get
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Speaker 1: from people is where are the parents of these kids?
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Speaker 1: What does bail actually mean? So, I mean, okay, I
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Speaker 1: can understand it, maybe once or twice, Charlie. Then you
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Speaker 1: might get arrested and you get a lawyer or legal
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Speaker 1: a takes you to court and you get bailed. But
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Speaker 1: why do we not have a system where the parents
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Speaker 1: have to stump up money and if the kids reoffend,
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Speaker 1: they lose that money.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the ones that have got parents that We've
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Speaker 9: got parents in Victoria's saying going to the police and saying,
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Speaker 9: police come and take my child away.
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Speaker 1: We can't control him.
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Speaker 9: And what about the ones in foster care that's on
25:56
Speaker 9: the government government foster care? They can't control them. So
25:59
Speaker 9: you then bring a back on to them. America have
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Speaker 9: done that, They've gone back to the parents and made
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Speaker 9: them accountable. But unfortunately a lot of these retrobate kids
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Speaker 9: don't have the support of their parents, or they're out
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Speaker 9: of home, slipping in the streets and just running a
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Speaker 9: mark because they know that they're thumbing in those at
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Speaker 9: authority and they know they can get away with it,
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Speaker 9: and ultimately there's going to be a killing one down
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Speaker 9: the track of them, the offenders, and then the poor
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Speaker 9: old resident the community is going to be then held
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Speaker 9: to account of why he defended himself of self defense
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Speaker 9: and his home.
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Speaker 1: We've already seen a doctor lose his life. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know more people will die, very much. Some of
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Speaker 1: these kids are going to die. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: know how they have it that hasn't happened already. I
26:38
Speaker 1: mean they're on their phones monitoring the police airwing deliberately
26:42
Speaker 1: getting chased through the streets. Someone's going to t bone
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Speaker 1: a car and kill a mother and a couple of kids.
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Speaker 1: Is that what it's going to take before the victory
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Speaker 1: and government actually says right, we've got a big problem
26:51
Speaker 1: and we've got to fix it. I mean, how do
26:53
Speaker 1: they have that huge problem? And then they get rid
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Speaker 1: of the two most senior police officers they.
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Speaker 9: Have absolutely because they're not pulling their string. They're not
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Speaker 9: seeing the same tune and the same inbook as a
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Speaker 9: government now. Shane Patten, he put together the Lunar task was.
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Speaker 1: For the tobacco wars. He put together vibe that's another problem.
27:10
Speaker 1: Here's the tobacco shop torched every night.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, now they reckon there might be a lull
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Speaker 9: in it because that the young the punisher just got murdered.
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Speaker 9: But I don't believe so. So Shane Patton is traying
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Speaker 9: the resources out at what little resources he has, and
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Speaker 9: this system of Now Rick NuGen has said, well, I
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Speaker 9: want to target the safety of the community and look
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Speaker 9: at my police recruitment.
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Speaker 1: It ain't going to happen.
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Speaker 9: No one who wants to join the police force when
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Speaker 9: they're just chasing their tails. There is no support of
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Speaker 9: the police, there is no money in the coffers and
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Speaker 9: the unions are letting them down.
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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that the vote was so anti Shane pattern.
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Speaker 9: I was, But I think what has the plashing and
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Speaker 9: told these members It seems to the on the road
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Speaker 9: police officer he knows than me, feel that they're not
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Speaker 9: being supported from above.
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Speaker 1: But really above is not being supported by the government.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 9: I'll be interested to know what did the Police Association
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Speaker 9: tell these members. Did they tell him about the consequences
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Speaker 9: of making a no confidence vote?
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Speaker 10: It's going to.
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Speaker 9: Cost a career, lifetime police officer, his job. He's out
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Speaker 9: there doing the best as he can and I think
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Speaker 9: he was pushing back and they needed to get rid
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Speaker 9: of him. And as a prime example with Neil Patterson too.
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Speaker 1: If you were sitting in the homicide room today and
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Speaker 1: you heard that the commissioner had been sacked and neither
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Speaker 1: the Premier or the police minister had the guts to
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Speaker 1: actually face him face to face and say we're not
28:31
Speaker 1: going to reknew your contract another five years. What would
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Speaker 1: you you bloke to be saying.
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Speaker 9: Well, we're just saying well, we're in Turnmore apart from
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Speaker 9: I've already sent a Shane a supportive email when I
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Speaker 9: heard because he's been very supportive of my actions in
28:44
Speaker 9: relation to what I'm doing privately now with a number
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Speaker 9: of unsolved cases. His blue blood. He's like me. He
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Speaker 9: joins a police cadet and then in my demise with
28:54
Speaker 9: avaland same deal. They don't care and the losers will
28:57
Speaker 9: always be the community. We need that rally from the
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Speaker 9: community and the politics. Now I'm looking at the success
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Speaker 9: right from Brad Batten to really come and really shake
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Speaker 9: this tree.
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Speaker 1: Charlie. We need more people like you thanks for coming
29:08
Speaker 1: in tanks service. Good on you, Charlie Zina. There after
29:11
Speaker 1: the break, more on those extraordinary scenes at Homebush Stadium
29:14
Speaker 1: in Sydney today, not on the field, but citizenship ceremonies
29:18
Speaker 1: for six thousand people over three days being rammed through
29:22
Speaker 1: pre election. I'll chat with our panel about that. Plus
29:25
Speaker 1: as the fake election campaign heats up, with some suggestions
29:29
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister might even call it. This weekend we
29:31
Speaker 1: catch up with the Liberal candidate trying to snatch back
29:35
Speaker 1: the once blue ribbon seat of Couyong in Melbourne. Amelia Hayman,
29:43
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Steve Price. With you well, I broke
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Speaker 1: Victoria's planning to take an axe to the public service.
29:48
Speaker 1: I'll chat with our panel shortly about that. First up, though,
29:51
Speaker 1: the last federal election, something happened in Melbourne's Inner East
29:54
Speaker 1: that most Liberals I would have thought would never happen,
29:57
Speaker 1: thought it impossible for the first time is Federation. They
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Speaker 1: actually lost that seat. They also lost a potential future
30:03
Speaker 1: prime ministry in my view, in Josh Friedenberg. The seat
30:06
Speaker 1: was won by doctor Monique Ryan, a teal. Remember this
30:10
Speaker 1: seat was home to Sir Robert Menzies and to Andrew
30:13
Speaker 1: Peacock as well as Josh. The Libs have pre selected
30:16
Speaker 1: Oxford graduate and finance executive Amelia Hamer, who is the
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Speaker 1: niece of former Victorian Premier Sir Rupert Hamer. Amelia Hamer
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Speaker 1: joins us in the studio. No pressure then, no presiat
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Speaker 1: to be here with you, Dave. It's a blue ribbon seat.
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Speaker 1: Can you win it back? Yeah?
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Speaker 11: Well, look, I'm going out every day. I'm knocking on doors.
30:35
Speaker 11: Did six hours of door knocking today, standing on street corners,
30:38
Speaker 11: standing out the front of train stations and just hoping
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Speaker 11: to win that trust of the Keyon community.
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Speaker 1: Josh won the popular vote in the last election, but
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Speaker 1: he's still lost on preferences. Is that one of your
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Speaker 1: biggest hurdles.
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Speaker 11: I think we've just got to work really hard to
30:49
Speaker 11: win as many votes as we can and that's what
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Speaker 11: I'm going to do.
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Speaker 1: Stave, your seat picked up thirty thousand voters when Higgins
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Speaker 1: was abolished. Helps she doesn't it.
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Speaker 6: The mood in that new piece of the electorate.
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Speaker 11: So that's the suburbs of Tuak Mulven. Armad al Pran
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Speaker 11: has been really really positive. I've been out on the
31:08
Speaker 11: street there. People have been extremely supportive. And there's also
31:11
Speaker 11: got to remember a very large Jewish community down in
31:15
Speaker 11: that area, and those people are really worried about the
31:17
Speaker 11: direction of our nation and the anti Semitism that we're seeing. So,
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Speaker 11: you know, had a lot of very strong support for
31:23
Speaker 11: Peter Dutton's stance on anti Semitism.
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Speaker 1: I suspect I'm know what you're going to say to
31:27
Speaker 1: this question, but has doctor Monique Ryan been a good
31:30
Speaker 1: local member.
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Speaker 6: It's up to the people ako Young to decide that.
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Speaker 11: What I would say is what people have been coming
31:37
Speaker 11: up in the street and talking to me about. They've
31:39
Speaker 11: been telling me that they're really worried about the fact
31:42
Speaker 11: that Menique Bryan has voted seventy five percent of the
31:44
Speaker 11: time with the Greens and significantly with the government as well.
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Speaker 6: Most of her.
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Speaker 11: Critiques have been of the Liberals and not of the
31:53
Speaker 11: current Labor government. And I think there is a lot
31:55
Speaker 11: to criticize about the current Labor government, and I think
31:57
Speaker 11: people would like to see a member that represents their
32:00
Speaker 11: values and their principles.
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Speaker 1: She said lust lecture that she largely won that seat
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Speaker 1: on people's concerns over climate change. We're going through a
32:09
Speaker 1: bit of a change in that debate, I believe a
32:12
Speaker 1: lot of people looking very strongly at things like solar
32:15
Speaker 1: and wind and what it's going to do to our environment.
32:18
Speaker 1: Do you think the climate change question is still a
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Speaker 1: big issue in that.
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Speaker 11: Area where you are, Steve, What I'd say is that
32:24
Speaker 11: people want to see a sensible and serious approach to
32:27
Speaker 11: climate change.
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Speaker 6: They want to see us tackle the issue.
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Speaker 11: They do want to see us get to net zero,
32:32
Speaker 11: but they want to see an approach that incorporates all
32:35
Speaker 11: the different technology options that we have on the table,
32:38
Speaker 11: and that's what we're focused on in the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 1: I read interestingly this shocked me that your seat of
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Speaker 1: Kong is a high proportion of eighteen to twenty four
32:47
Speaker 1: year old voters, presumably many of them still living at
32:51
Speaker 1: home with and dad. How big is the issue of
32:54
Speaker 1: rents and housing?
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Speaker 6: That's exactly right.
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Speaker 11: And often when I'm knocking on a door, it'll be
32:58
Speaker 11: the eighteen to twenty five five year old kid who
33:01
Speaker 11: opens the door, or young andult I should say, but
33:05
Speaker 11: it's really interesting having those conversations because they are worried
33:09
Speaker 11: about rents, they are worried about housing, They would like
33:11
Speaker 11: to move out of mum and dad's home. Particularly, what
33:14
Speaker 11: they say to me is they say that they can
33:18
Speaker 11: see a pathway often to buying a one bed or
33:21
Speaker 11: a two bed flat. They can sort of think, Okay,
33:24
Speaker 11: if I save, if I live at home, if I
33:26
Speaker 11: scrape together the money I can, I'll be able to
33:29
Speaker 11: get together, you know, fifty thousand dollars for my deposit
33:31
Speaker 11: over the long term. What they can't see the pathway too,
33:34
Speaker 11: is buying the family home that Australian dream of, you know,
33:38
Speaker 11: the block with the back garden out the back where
33:40
Speaker 11: that you know, the kids can have their own space.
33:42
Speaker 6: They can't see that pathway at all.
33:45
Speaker 11: And that's a really depressing thing because if you look
33:47
Speaker 11: at the way that the Labor Party is trying to
33:49
Speaker 11: take this country or what are they doing. They're building
33:51
Speaker 11: more one and two bedroom apartments. That doesn't solve the
33:54
Speaker 11: problem that we have. And so when I'm talking to
33:56
Speaker 11: a lot of young people about that, they're really they're
33:58
Speaker 11: understanding that, and they're looking at our policies, things like
34:02
Speaker 11: investing five billion dollars in infrastructure in out of suburban
34:06
Speaker 11: and regional areas.
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Speaker 6: So we can actually build houses.
34:08
Speaker 11: For people, take the pressure off areas like Kujong. They
34:11
Speaker 11: look really positively at those kind of policies.
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Speaker 1: You worked in finance, Do you think it's a good
34:16
Speaker 1: idea to let those young people use this superannuation to
34:20
Speaker 1: put together a deposit? I think.
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Speaker 11: Look, so I did work in finance, and I also
34:25
Speaker 11: worked for the Minister for Superannuation, so it's something that
34:27
Speaker 11: I've followed quite closely.
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Speaker 6: And the reality is that you can invest your super
34:32
Speaker 6: in a lot of things.
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Speaker 11: If you've got enough money to have a self managed
34:35
Speaker 11: super fund, you can put it in an investment property,
34:37
Speaker 11: you could buy a farm, you could buy livestock, you
34:39
Speaker 11: can invest.
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Speaker 6: It in the stock market.
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Speaker 1: You can't buy flat.
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Speaker 11: You can't buy your own home, which is completely crazy,
34:45
Speaker 11: and to me, it's actually an issue of equity. It's
34:47
Speaker 11: this idea of you don't own your own home, yet
34:50
Speaker 11: we're making you pull your money somewhere else when actually
34:53
Speaker 11: all you'd really like to do is buy your own home,
34:55
Speaker 11: start paying off that mortgage, because the biggest determine of
34:58
Speaker 11: retirement outcomes is actually do your own your own home.
35:01
Speaker 11: If you get to the point of retirement and you're
35:03
Speaker 11: still renting or you're still paying a mortgage, you're going
35:06
Speaker 11: to be in a much worse off position, regardless of
35:08
Speaker 11: what superbalance you have, than you would be if you
35:10
Speaker 11: own your own home outright.
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Speaker 1: At that point you mentioned the large Jewish population in
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Speaker 1: the seed of Kuyong. How impressed have you been with
35:19
Speaker 1: the advocacy Josh has shown in that fight against anti Semitism.
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Speaker 1: And I watched the summit that's guided yesterday and it's
35:26
Speaker 1: going to be replayed tonight. I think his speech was unbelievable.
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Speaker 11: I think Josh Rodenberger has been an absolutely terrific advocate
35:34
Speaker 11: for the Jewish community, and alongside Peter Dutton, who has
35:37
Speaker 11: shown unbelievable I think moral clarity and leadership in the
35:41
Speaker 11: context of a government who has really dropped the ball
35:44
Speaker 11: on this issue, so much so that I have people
35:46
Speaker 11: coming up to me in the street, in the street
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Speaker 11: Steve and saying that they have an escape plan if
35:52
Speaker 11: the anti Semitism gets worse in this country and they
35:54
Speaker 11: will move somewhere else in the world.
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Speaker 1: Well, that is really there's a lot, doesn't it, Amelia
35:58
Speaker 1: That the Attorney General of Australia was actually heckled at
36:01
Speaker 1: that same summit yesterday. Absolutely because Jewish people don't feel
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Speaker 1: that the government's had its back.
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Speaker 11: It's a complete lack of moral leadership and it's completely unacceptable.
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Speaker 1: How long until we get a decision on the election?
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Speaker 10: You reckon?
36:14
Speaker 11: Oh?
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm ready to go as soon as they are.
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Speaker 1: Which suburbs are in this weekend?
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Speaker 6: This weekend we're in Malvern mainly, but really across the
36:23
Speaker 6: electorate every weekend.
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Speaker 1: Forward to winning absolutely if.
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Speaker 6: The people have k put their trust in me.
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Speaker 1: Mellieheimer, great to see you, Thanks for coming me. Jehaimer there,
36:31
Speaker 1: It's going to be a wonderful result if Amelia can
36:34
Speaker 1: pick that seat up. Coming up after the break, I'll
36:37
Speaker 1: get the panels take on that extraordinary citizenship ceremony we've
36:40
Speaker 1: been talking about in Western Sydney today. Plus, the Victorian
36:44
Speaker 1: government is considering cutting thousands of public service jobs as
36:48
Speaker 1: part of a review. But is this just an attempt
36:51
Speaker 1: to distract from their budget blowouts? Welcome back totep Price
36:58
Speaker 1: video Rowan Dean Coming up. Well, it's Friday Panel Time.
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Speaker 1: Small Business Women Australia CEO Amanda Rose joins us every
37:05
Speaker 1: Friday at this time, along with Sky News contributed Joe Hildebrand.
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Speaker 1: Great to see you both. I want to go back
37:10
Speaker 1: to this crazy idea that Tony Burk's out at Homebush
37:15
Speaker 1: Stadium just happened to be wandering past. And there's a
37:19
Speaker 1: whole bunch of fast track citizenships going on ahead of
37:23
Speaker 1: the election. I took to Bridge McKenzie earlier about this,
37:26
Speaker 1: and the government says, oh, well, they're just you know,
37:29
Speaker 1: causing trouble. There's nothing to see here, this Astrain and
37:32
Speaker 1: Electric Commission. They were out there reminding citizens it's their
37:35
Speaker 1: right responsibility to vote. Joe, you know Western Sydney as
37:39
Speaker 1: well as anyone apart from Amanda who knows it better
37:42
Speaker 1: than you. What the hell's going on here? Twelve and
37:45
Speaker 1: a half thousand people over three days, really, really.
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Speaker 12: And I've got to say this is actually the best
37:52
Speaker 12: idea I've seen yet to help Haber with the next election.
37:56
Speaker 12: This is the sort of thing that I'd come up
37:58
Speaker 12: with at midnight, after about half a dozen bottles of
38:00
Speaker 12: beer and be on the phone. Take hey, you know
38:02
Speaker 12: what you should do? No, it's incredibly smart. It's basically
38:09
Speaker 12: just cutting out. So what do we need? We need
38:11
Speaker 12: more citizens to vote in these electorates. It's a sheer genius.
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Speaker 12: Talk about figuring outside the box. I love it, go Berkie, Amanda.
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Speaker 1: This is just brandstacking by a different name.
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Speaker 13: Look, I wouldn't call it smart, I would call it desperate.
38:30
Speaker 13: So I have a feeling that he's worried that he's
38:33
Speaker 13: neglected Western Sydney up until now, and now it's called
38:37
Speaker 13: catch up.
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Speaker 6: This happens all the.
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Speaker 13: Time around election time, so it's We've got to let
38:41
Speaker 13: people know who I am and I've got to convince
38:44
Speaker 13: them that I care about them. And even Dia Lee
38:46
Speaker 13: said it was never heard of. He's never turned up
38:48
Speaker 13: to one before. I haven't seen him in a decade,
38:51
Speaker 13: and that's really telling. So this is a sign for
38:55
Speaker 13: all MPs everywhere, regardless of what role you're in government.
39:00
Speaker 13: Your number one job is for the people. You should
39:04
Speaker 13: be there all the time listening to them, not just
39:07
Speaker 13: pretending to care and put your brand in front of
39:10
Speaker 13: them during what is supposed to be a very exciting
39:13
Speaker 13: time for these new citizens. But he's essentially using them
39:17
Speaker 13: and I think it's pretty poor form. But it's the
39:20
Speaker 13: fact that our MP's lost that art of community first
39:25
Speaker 13: and then government and parliament second.
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Speaker 1: Joe, isn't it. There's also the danger for labor that
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Speaker 1: they're reminding the non western Sydney population, so everyone else
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Speaker 1: around the country that we've had this massive influx of
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Speaker 1: migrants into Australia since Labor was elected two and a
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Speaker 1: bit two and three courty years ago. I think it's
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Speaker 1: over a million people, and immigration, whether Labor likes it
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Speaker 1: or not, is going to be an election issue during
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Speaker 1: this campaign.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think. I mean, like a lot of things.
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Speaker 12: Again, I'm not making excuses because Labor was very happy
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Speaker 12: to claim credit for things it had no control over,
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Speaker 12: and then when the things it had no control over
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Speaker 12: turned to be bad, suddenly it was all somebody else's fault.
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Speaker 12: But these like the migration, that giant migration post COVID
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Speaker 12: migration boom, Labor inherited that that was always scheduled to happen.
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Speaker 12: That was because no one was able to come in
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Speaker 12: during those COVID years, and so all these skill shortages
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Speaker 12: that we didn't have. There are all these skilled workers
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Speaker 12: that we didn't have. Suddenly we had to sort of
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Speaker 12: make up for lost time. And then, of course that
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Speaker 12: coincides with an economic crisis that many of us said
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Speaker 12: would inevitably come after you just shut down an economy
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Speaker 12: and then try to restart it as though nothing.
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Speaker 10: Had ever happened. They'll just pick up where we left off.
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Speaker 10: That was obviously.
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Speaker 12: Always going to cause massive seismic ructions, and suddenly these
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Speaker 12: sort of two things happened at once where you had
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Speaker 12: a housing affordability crisis and a giant influx of migration,
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Speaker 12: and labor is obviously pared back those numbers as well,
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Speaker 12: and is going to do so into the future because
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Speaker 12: of course it doesn't want There's nothing in labour's interest
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Speaker 12: to have, you know, its workers being undercut by migrant
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Speaker 12: workers coming in. So there is no benefit to labor
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Speaker 12: to bringing in workers that Australia doesn't need, and it
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Speaker 12: will continue to I think, pair back whatever the net
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Speaker 12: migration has to be in order to meet, to sort
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Speaker 12: of thread that needle, make sure we have the vital
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Speaker 12: workers we need. But it's not putting too much pressure
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Speaker 12: on housing at the same time, and I think, you know,
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Speaker 12: a lot of what else is happening is is the
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Speaker 12: fact that the Muslim vote is coming after and I'm
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Speaker 12: not Muslims voting, but the Muslim Vote movement, which is
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Speaker 12: sort of quite fringe, weird kind of Muslim teal outfit,
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Speaker 12: but without the billions of dollars from Simon Holmes a
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Speaker 12: cot are coming after Tony Burke and Jason Claire Coland
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Speaker 12: in Southwest Sydney.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, so and that divisive.
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Speaker 1: I keep telling you both, Victoria's broke. I know you
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Speaker 1: know that, but you don't have to live through it
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Speaker 1: like those of us who live in the great socialist
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Speaker 1: state of Victoria. They've downdecided after employing tens of thousands
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Speaker 1: of public servants that, oh, hang on the wages billed
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Speaker 1: so high we can't afford to keep paying it. They're
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Speaker 1: going to cut as many as three thousand public service
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Speaker 1: jobs to get back to pre pandemic levels. They must
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Speaker 1: have been channeling Amanda Elon Musk. They're going to have
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Speaker 1: to have their own dog person in charge to wield
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Speaker 1: the chainsaw like I saw him have today. Here's the
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Speaker 1: Premier talking about what she's going to cut.
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Speaker 14: This review is about looking at where we can have
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Speaker 14: a laser like focus on reducing waste inefficiency and duplication,
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Speaker 14: having a laser like focus on prioritizing and continue to
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Speaker 14: invest in those things that matter for Victorian families.
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Speaker 1: Amanda the word that we should concentrate on there is review,
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Speaker 1: so she's not actually doing it. She's going to review
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Speaker 1: what they should do, and they don't quite know whether
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Speaker 1: they will. I mean, that's just typical labor here. It
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Speaker 1: is bothetic.
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Speaker 13: But it's interesting because they're focusing just on staff, right,
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Speaker 13: So if they're going to slash all this stuff, are
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Speaker 13: they doing it so the balance sheet looks better than
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Speaker 13: it actually is. So they're quickly wanting a shift to say, oh,
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Speaker 13: look we've saved this much money and we're doing well.
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Speaker 13: But it's not just the staff. It's also initiatives. It's
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Speaker 13: the money that they've spent on. It could be infrastructure
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Speaker 13: or their mates or whatever it is that you know,
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Speaker 13: billions of dollars that have been spent on different things.
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Speaker 13: That's what should be reviewed and it should be an
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Speaker 13: independent of you that comes in and being sensible. And
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Speaker 13: I've always said, if you want to have good government
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Speaker 13: or a good budget in government, get someone from the
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Speaker 13: commercial sector. And I know Elon Musk is an example
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Speaker 13: in America, whether or not he thinks I think he's
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Speaker 13: the right person for it or not, but it's the
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Speaker 13: concept of getting someone with a commercial mind to come
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Speaker 13: in because often what we have in government are people.
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Speaker 13: It's so easy to spend someone else's money, right when
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Speaker 13: you're not the one having to earn it, like the
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Speaker 13: small business owner that's busting their butt to earn the money.
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Speaker 6: To pay the taxes.
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Speaker 13: So governments, you know, officials and politicians, and.
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Speaker 6: Say look at all the money that we have.
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Speaker 5: No, it's not yours, but.
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Speaker 13: It seems to burn through their fingers very quickly. So
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Speaker 13: I think we need a complete audit from a commercial
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Speaker 13: outsider to say what has actually got a return on
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Speaker 13: investment and what doesn't. So I think this is just
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Speaker 13: a cover up to say, look, look at us. We're
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Speaker 13: going to slash staff so you can all leave us alone.
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Speaker 10: Now, I think a man in rows just volunteered.
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Speaker 1: It's a job of absolutely, I will do this. I think,
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Speaker 1: hear me.
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Speaker 10: Well, have you got my vote?
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Speaker 1: You could be the Dome Boss Joe. I reckon the
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be cynical, but I reckon the
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Speaker 1: review pushes this out beyond the federal election, because the
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Speaker 1: last thing the federal Labor Party want is in the
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Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, and to lead up to a
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Speaker 1: vote for a labor federal government is a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: of public servants who are paid by the tax to
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Speaker 1: be suddenly thrown out the door and without a job.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, look, it's frankly, the justinto Allen government
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Speaker 12: could do whatever it wants in Victoria and it almost
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Speaker 12: couldn't be any worse than it already is. We are
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Speaker 12: looking at I mean, a couple of mates I might
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Speaker 12: have spoken to about the situation of Victoria.
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Speaker 10: It is just dire. There are seats that were once considered.
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Speaker 12: Safe as houses, seats, including one that's named after a
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Speaker 12: formal labor prime minister, which could fall to the coalition.
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Speaker 12: And that is you know, whatever criticism you might level
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Speaker 12: at the Albanezi, that is right at the feet of
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Speaker 12: just the most incompetent, catastrophically financially irresponsible government. And in
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Speaker 12: the case of their insane COVID restrictions, which we know
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Speaker 12: were based not in any actual evidence based science, we
45:55
Speaker 12: know that no one was actually in charge of the
45:58
Speaker 12: things that were supposed to keep the state safe, like
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Speaker 12: hotel quarantine. Just nobody was really in charge. The system
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Speaker 12: was in charge of it, the vibe was in charge
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Speaker 12: of it. This crazy ideological you know, pursuit of COVID zero,
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Speaker 12: which when they're being told it's never going to happen,
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Speaker 12: it's never going to happen.
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Speaker 10: I mean, this is what happens when you have.
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Speaker 12: An element of the Labor Party, not the sensible element
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Speaker 12: of the Labor Party, but the Victorian left of the
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Speaker 12: Labor Party which has been completely overrun ideologues, not my people,
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Speaker 12: not the noble patriots of the New South Wales, right, Dave.
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Speaker 10: But I love it. I love it when Joe uses
46:38
Speaker 10: that's what happens.
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Speaker 1: I love it when Joe uses the word vibe. I've
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Speaker 1: written a column that's up online at the moment, will
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Speaker 1: be in the paper tomorrow. This is how broke Victoria is.
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Speaker 1: Victoria Police their budget is so stretched and they've been
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Speaker 1: asked to cut one and a half billion dollars out
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Speaker 1: of it, but they've decided one of the things they're
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Speaker 1: going to cut out is that every Sunday at three
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Speaker 1: forty five there's a ceremony at the Shriner Remembrance where
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Speaker 1: they have a bugler playing the last Post. Now, there
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Speaker 1: was a seventy five thousand dollars cost against having two
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Speaker 1: police officers turn up to just stand there and make
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Speaker 1: sure that no one presumably why anyone will want to
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Speaker 1: attacks the bugler. So what's happened, Well, the shrines had
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Speaker 1: to cancel that completely and just sent to Alan. The
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Speaker 1: Premier was asked about it during the week and she said, well,
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Speaker 1: I like brass instruments and bugles. I mean we are
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Speaker 1: living in just a fancy, a crazy place where you
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Speaker 1: can't have a bugle ceremony at a shrine of remembrance
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Speaker 1: to pay tribute to people who fought for the country. Amanda,
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Speaker 1: what are we doing?
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Speaker 13: I actually think, Look, I don't think it's a budget issue,
47:46
Speaker 13: because if you wanted to pay for.
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Speaker 6: It, you would.
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Speaker 13: I think it's a lack of respect. I think, you know,
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Speaker 13: this is something I should have been prioritized. It's part
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Speaker 13: of our history, and I think it's disrespectful to every
47:57
Speaker 13: single person that it represents. So this is not oh,
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Speaker 13: you know, it's cute, I like Bogle will make. That's
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Speaker 13: actually insulting itself for her saying that. But this is
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Speaker 13: a deliberate choice not to fund it so it doesn't happen.
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Speaker 13: So I think people need to put a lot of
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Speaker 13: pressure on the government to say no, bring it back.
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Speaker 1: Joe. I've come up with a solution already get the
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Speaker 1: AFL to write out a check for seventy five grand.
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Speaker 1: They fill the MCG up on Anzac Day every year
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Speaker 1: with one hundred thousand people, and I don't pay tax.
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Speaker 1: Surely they could write the check.
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Speaker 12: That would actually be a genius move and probably the
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Speaker 12: best pharf let's do AFLs pulled. But again this just
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Speaker 12: goes to show how broke the how broke and woke
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Speaker 12: the Allen government is I mean, obviously obviously the government
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Speaker 12: is not down to its last seventy five thousand dollars
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Speaker 12: as financially it's.
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Speaker 1: Nothing dead as it is. That's right to go and
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Speaker 1: knock on the door of the AFL them to run
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Speaker 1: out the check. Thank you, it's great to see you, Amanda.
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Speaker 1: Joe Rowan Dean's coming up now expot
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Speaker 12: MHM