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Dr. Dayan Goodenowe, expert on the biochemical mechanisms of aging and disease · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. We're filming
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today from San Francisco, and my guest, doctor Dayan good Now, is
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in Temecula, so we're both California today and many of you know Temecula as
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the new wine capital of California. I guess I don't think doctor Gooden Now
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is actually partaking in the wine part of the industry, but he does have
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an institute located in this lovely town of Temecula, which we're going to talk
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about in a moment. So welcome doctor good Now. Thank you, Michelle.
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It's a pleasure to be here. And you know what I asked Jessica,
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your assistant, because your name d A y A n. I've heard
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some people pronounce it Dan and some people pulled ten rounds at day in.
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So which do you prefer? Oh, Dayan? That seems more sophisticated anyway,
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So okay, so day and good Now. So for our audience,
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I just want to tell a little bit about you, and I'm going to
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let you take over. So there's a lot of a lot of definitions of
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terms that you're going to want to hear after we do a brief intro.
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But doctor good Now is a neuroscientist. That's number one definition, and we
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all know what that is. He is also a epidemologist, He's a synthetic
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chemical researcher, right, and also a chemical biochemical researcher. Right. So
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there's so many titles and I don't know how you sleep at night because you
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are so busy. He's just written a book called Breaking Alzheimer's, which is
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probably one of the most cutting edge and exciting books to come out on the
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subject of dementia and Alzheimer's. We'll be talking about that as well today.
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So okay, so doctor good Now, how did you get to where you
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are today? What was there the inspirations that puts you on your path to
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doing what you're doing today, which is groundbreaking research and of course protocols for
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anti aging. Well, thank you, Michelle. Yeah. Well, basically,
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it's just curiosity, an insatiable curiosity about life and how things work fundamentally.
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And so my earlier training is in synthetic organic chemistry, that's my first
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degree, and then I went into neurochemistry look at how the biochemistry of the
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brain behaved under certain circumstances. Looking at the neuropathology, say of Alzheimer's and
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Parkinson's and depression and anxiety and so on, and then in terms of understanding
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how to intervene in terms of brain health, led to looking at technologies that
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we can measure the biochemistry more thoroughly. And so my first real you know,
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invention is eventionally called non targeted metabolic profile, which uses a high field
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ion cyclotron mass petroumeter. So so we have a seven tesla ion cyclotron in
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our facility or intemecula, and this is what we allows us to measure thousands
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and thousands of molecules in your blood. And originally the technology was thought to
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be used and we did use it for functional genomics research and understanding how human
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genome works, but also how to diagnose diseases. And it's very good at
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diagnosing disease. It can pretty well diagnose all human diseases and done huge epidemiological
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studies on those those issues like colon cancer, pancreatic cancer, or variant cancers,
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as well as inteological diseases. But what became clear from that research was
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that there was biochemistry occurring before disease. Because when we looked at the biochemistry
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of people with disease and without disease, and then we looked at them again
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after they've been technically cured, like so the cancer has been removed and they've
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been considered cancer free. Many of these biomarkers didn't go back to normal,
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which meant that they were preceding the disease. And this is quite shocking.
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However, in retrospect, it shouldn't have been so shocking. It sounds pretty
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obvious now that I know more about this thing. And so what we've found
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over time, and what I found when looking into the biochemical pathways is that
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we actually have a health state, like we are fundamentally healthy, and we
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deviate from that health, and that deviation from health identifies what diseases we have
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a risk of becoming in the future. Basically, it's basically it's measuring ball
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tires, right, So you can say you've got a ball tire may not
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be flat today, but you know what, if you run on the wrong
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street, you're going to get a flat tire. If the right circumstances arise,
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you're going to get a flat And that's the biochemical issue of programs.
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Basically, predictability of the future. But these prodromes are essentially deviations from health,
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like a ball tire is a deviation from a brand new tire. And
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then when you start looking at it, and when you start following that balancing
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ball further and further, you start saying, Okay, how do we correct
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these issues? How do these biochemical deficiencies? And one of the critical ones
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was these class of molecules called plasm mallagens and e we related to Alzheimer's disease
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and how the low levels of these plasm malgens correlated with the severity dementia correlated
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with the rate of decline in the elderly. And so then the next question
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says, okay, well, what are we gonna do about it? What
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can we do about this? And the advantage I have as being a chemist
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is that I can design molecules, and so I design human biochemical intermediates.
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Basically, it's advanced nutrition. So what I do is I do basically advanced
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human biochemical engineering is what I do. So we basically identify the biochemical intermediates
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that the body needs that we can provide as food, natural food supplements that
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can restore bio chemical health. And then when you talk about ageless and timeless,
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which is the title of your podcast series, is that people think of
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this world, you know, think of this concept of immortality right there,
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and they think that they're going to seek it. They think that immortality is
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something that you go out and get back. That's not true. Immortality is
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something that you're born with. You actually lose your immortality, and immortality is
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basically life, and it's not And this is what happens a lot in life.
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We confuse the absence of a thing with a thing. Right, So,
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if you're a scientist or a physicist, and you know, for example,
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there's no such thing as cold. Cold is not an actual thing that
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exists. What exists is the lack of heat. So when you cool your
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house, you don't actually push, you don't actually put cold air in your
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house. You pull hot air out of your house. And there's really no
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such thing as darkness. Darkness is the absence of light, and so and
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so life and death. So there's really no such thing as death. Death
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really isn't a thing. Death is the absence of life. Is when you
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lose life, you die, And then you have to ask yourself well,
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then what the hell is this life thing they were talking about? And really,
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you're born with it, so you have life. It has function,
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it has purpose, and we have to maintain that. And so sometimes we
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talk about this anti aging or reversing aging. That really is impossible. What
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you have to do is you have to you have to go forward to a
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younger you. You can't go backwards to an older younger you know, a
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previous younger you. You have to go forward to a new younger you.
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That's some of the advanced work that trying to educate people that we can actually
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do this, Like aging is not a bad thing. You just need to
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age in the right direction. You need to age towards a younger you and
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more healthier you, more vitality you. And we need to understand what that
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means, like purpose in life drives your ability to get up. So,
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yeah, you said your head might spin because all the things I'm doing,
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But that kind of that gives you purpose. Right. I have children with
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rare diseases that I treat you work with their physicians, and we can restore
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it. We can we can circumvent their genetic disorders. And in the elderly
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now we can do significant recovery in dementia. We have a clinic now in
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Canada where people actually physically go to and we teach dementia recovery and rehabilitation.
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And I just recently showed people how you can reverse brain aging. So I
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did my own advanced MRS. A lot of these technologies are available, they're
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just not used in a routine way. And so one of the things I
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was trying to teach people is that, in using my own self as an
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example, is I, did you know, seventeen months of advanced targeted nutrition
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and I was able to reverse fifteen years of brain aging and showing it up
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on advanced MRI, so we can do. These are things. These are
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possible things, and it's but we kind of sometimes we get stuck in the
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middle of a story and we all start at the beginning of the story,
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and so that's kind of what keeps me excited. And that's so that's how
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I'm in this. And the other challenge in science is implementing it right.
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It's one thing to have an idea, or one thing to actually even prove
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an idea. It's another thing to be able to make it available to the
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general public. And so that's why we have a very large network of doctors,
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what two thousand doctors in our network now, and we are actively intervening
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in people's biochemical lives and making real differences in their world. And it's not
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it's actually and it's not magic. It's actually quite straightforward, scientifically logical sequence
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of events. And so yeah, that's when we're at So I assume that
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that's really really helpful. And it's so it's so kind of earth shattering for
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a lot of people to think about the possibilities that you've just described. That
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there is no real death. There's just a loss of life. I mean,
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I guess in some ways for some people that might be semantic. Like,
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Yet, the way you're approaching it is that you can have immortality.
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You just have to find these solutions for your particular customized needs for long life
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or longest life or forever life exactly. Well, it's like disease, Like
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you don't you don't actually get a disease, right, you actually lose health.
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Yeah, Like you know, you get you don't actually get diabetes,
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You lose the ability to regulate your glucose, you don't get cancer. Yourselves
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lose their ability to maintain their cellular integrity. And so we when we look
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at something after the fact, right, it's it looks like it's programmed,
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right, And sometimes I think we're programmed to die, but we're really not.
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We are We just adapt to death, and we need to learn how
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to adapt to life going forward. And that's what I do. That's that
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you know, you mentioned though, that you know, having a nutritional protocol
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for people who have lost health and are facing a certain dilemma, a challenge.
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We won't call it disease because it's just a loss of some part of
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their health. If I can follow your exactly, okay, so then yeah,
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So when you take that approach, then you start the curiosity comes in.
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So so you kind of have to work yourself backwards to say where does
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this begin? Like really, what is life to a human being? Like
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what what is it that keeps us alive? What are the what are the
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core components? Before I get to the very end of the story, maybe
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I should start at the beginning of the story, and the beginning of the
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story for human life is we are essentially a hybrid electric car. We burn
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hydrocarbons, okay, we eat protein and carbon fats, sugars. These are
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carbohydrates, Okay, they all come from the sun fundamentally converting water and carbon
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dioxide into glucose, and different various animals and microbes in our environment convert that
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to more complex molecules. But what we do is we take these hydrocarbons and
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we physically burn them. We burn them into carbon dioxide and water, just
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like a camp fire does, right, And we breathe out the carbon dioxide
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and we pee out the water, and then we take we take the energy
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that's formed from that burning process, just like the furnace in your house,
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and we charge a battery with it. So we run on battery energy and
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the battery is this mitochondria. And so that's quite you know, you think
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about the human bodies literally on fire. Right, we're burning carbon dioxide creating
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water, and we're taking that energy and we're charging a battery called the mitochondria.
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It's mind boggling, Like you have thirty some trillion cells. Each of
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those cells are going to have hundreds of mitochondria. So you think of your
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Tesla car. Okay, the human body. If you kind of make it,
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if a Tesla car was built like a human body, every single drop
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of paint, every piece of rubber on the tire, everything in that entire
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car would be the battery. Okay, that the whole car would be the
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battery. There wouldn't be a battery pack. The entire car would be the
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battery. And that's how the human body is, and that's how we have
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such fine tune energy supplies all across of it. So are so first part,
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we need to maintain the mitochondrial strength, and that's oxidatid stress management.
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It's you know, it's your B vitamins, your B twelves, like the
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whole bunch of stuff in there, right, and then the other part of
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the human body, So mitochondrial, So a deal with. I teach people
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how to restore mitochondrial health and maintain that level. And it's and part of
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it's your physiology as well. And the other big part of human physiology is
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our membranes. Okay, you have these thirty trillion cells, and these are
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like little apartment buildings apartments in a huge, huge apartment. They're all separated
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from each other, and there's some sort of compartmentalization, just like you separate
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your kitchen from your bathroom, so you can do some functions in one area
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of the house without affecting the entire house. And your body is organized like
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that. But everything in the human body is alive, like it's not like
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bricks and mortar or the plaster of your walls. These are living materials.
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And the living materials that your body uses to create walls are called lippets or
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false lipets or fasts, and they create the by layer and they determine whether
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your walls are in good shape, or whether there's holes in the walls,
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or whether they're too stiff or misform. And so the fossil of a balance
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of your of your membranes becomes absolutely critical. And this is where the plast
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mallagens come in because that's one molecule class that is very strange. We're very
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dependent upon them. We get some from our parents or mother in breastfeeding,
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so it's the natural source of plast males is in breastbed babies, and that's
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why breastfeeding is so important for the first six to twelve months, especially for
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the milination of the brain. And then eventually the human body catches up and
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can make its own plast malagens. But it's not a small amount. It's
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like thirty percent of your brain. Like all this biocartitis that you're seeing out
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there with people dropping dead, that's plast malagen losses in their heart. Like
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the heart muscle has about fifty percent plast malagen in it. The weird thing
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about these molecules is you can't really get them from the food supply because they
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don't survive our digestion. So the human body is dependent upon them, and
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they and they, and they go down in certain diseases, and they go
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down as we age. So one of the things that was critical for me
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when I was showing people how we can restore brain voying, like I was
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able to increase my occipital load by ten percent, my white matter density,
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my myelination I think eight or nine percent. The functional connectivity of saying my
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nucleus basalas or my substantial nigra, all that connectivity could be improved. And
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that's not and it's not magic. It's basically restoring those molecules that the human
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body needs and doing it in a strategic way. And last the second part
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is that is that membrane structure of your human body. And then the third
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part, as as you go in a triage perspective, is Okay, what's
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the most core thing is your mitochondre. Second core is your membrane structure.
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Third core is really your your neurological signaling. Like your body is a whole
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network of neurons right that communicate, connect make things happen. The brain,
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of course, is the only thing I tell people that the entire body is
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basically designed to keep your brain fed because I can. I can replace your
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shoulder, I can even replace your heart, but the one thing I can't
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replace is your brain. And your body protects it pretty aggressively with the blood
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brain barrier. And but things can get into that and we we we lose
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our brain. We lose, we lose ourselves. We can't replace that.
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So I critically tell people that that's the number one priority in life is really
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maintaining your brain vitality. And that's good. And that's where the advanced MRI
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comes in because you can actually there's tools out there that we can use that
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accurately track and monitor not just the structure of the brain. Like most people
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look at MRI and say, oh, what are what are the volumes of
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my different parts of my brain? Or do I have a do I have
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a tumor, or do I have a multiples Gross's lesion? Or do I
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have a stroke? Those are the type of you know, they're they're they're
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kind of acute care usages. Is there any problem with my brain? But
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MRI is far more valuable than that. It can tell his function in real
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time. But the neurological system of the body, you know, you talk
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about people with als or you have the neuron which is the wire like the
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wire in your walls. Right, it has copper wire that goes long distances
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and it has a coating on that which is which keeps it from shorting out
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and making sparksply, right, and your body has that too. The inside
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is called your axon and that's where your neurological signals go. So if you
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want to be able to move quickly and be responsive to your environment and so
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on. And the outer coating is called your mieling and your those structures have
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very specific nutritional needs and physiological needs right like we have. The body doesn't
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really stop, you know, I talk I talk to people with the heart
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of the brain like you never you know, you can't just turn your heart
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off for six hours and give it a rest like it never stops, which
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itself is pretty It's where you look at the human body, the more in
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awe you become of what it actually can do. I think about that sixty
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seventy beats a minute from birth, right you know what I mean, Like
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think of a car, like what else in the in our world to perform
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day in and day out, hour by hour and minute by minute and the
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things like, it's pretty remarkable that we're even alive at all, if you
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think about it. And so when you get in awe of what it does,
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then our job is just to kind of say, you know, let's
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keep it, let's let's give it the tools Okay, let's not play god,
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okay, because we really don't know all the things at work. Okay,
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we have, We're given some miraculous working system here, and our job
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is try to keep it running fundamentally and and we can measure that. That's
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where the advanced mass spect technology comes in. We can say we can It's
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just like anything else in this world. You want to be able to monitor
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changes because you know, we're not like, we're not plants, right,
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Like you have to eat food, you have to work out, you have
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to your body needs to have some sort of resistance. So there goes to
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the after fee. So we are still stewards of our own bodies, like
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we're stewards not of our mind, and of of where we put our bodies,
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what kind of purpose we put them into, and you know, and
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all that kind of stuff and so and that kind of interaction between putting yourself
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in the right environment forcing your body to adapt to certain things. Right.
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The reason why we work out. I tell people, you know we work
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out. Working out is bad for you, So I say exercising is bad
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for you, but recovering from exercise is pretty good. So so you want
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to read it's the recovery because what you're doing, you're tricking your body.
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You're if you're lifting out on weights, you're tricking your body into thinking that
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that's what it has to do. So it doesn't only different it thinks if
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you if it thinks you have to lift on hundred pound weights, it's going
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to adapt one hundred pound weights. So the day that you're not lifting those
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weights, you have all that extra capacity. Or if you're if you're doing
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cardiovascular training and you're you're improving your auction utilization, you're tricking the body into
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thinking it needs more efficient auction utilization. And so you are now actively supporting
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teaching your body just like you would teach a child skills for a particular environment,
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and that's what we do as a stewart. So combination those two things.
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But you can't take a malnourished person and put them in the workout room
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expecting to build muscle. Honestly, this is so important. Everything you're saying,
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it just resonates and it actually it's so aligned with the purpose of ageless
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and timeless because as you said earlier, you know we're thinking ageless and timeless,
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i e. Immortality, and that doesn't have to be a pipe dream,
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and this isn't you know, we're not saying what your particular customized experience
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is going to be as an individual, but we do know that you have
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some control over the choices, and we are the sum total of our choices.
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And even though you've talked about reference to nutrition programs and exercises, we'll
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talk about that in a moment, because I do want people to understand that
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there are some things that you should do and there are some things you shouldn't
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do, and these are the things that you should do to support exactly everything
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that you've just described in terms of the maximum performance of that electric car so
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or or the performance of the wiring in your home or you know, those
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metaphors that you've used are very, very proficient because they do give people a
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way to relate. You know, some podcast guests have said aging is a
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disease, and I know, and I spoke to you originally. I mentioned
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that to you and you said, oh no, no, that's a very
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bad way to look at That's a negative approach to what we're all trying to
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accomplish here. So could you touch on that for a moment, And is
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absolutely unambiguously not a disease. Okay, it's just not period okay. And
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so because what aging is it's an association with the probability of a negative outcome.
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Okay, So when you have over time, you have a higher probability
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that something will fail. Okay, take a car, right, might be
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the breaks, might be the transmission, might be the headlights, it might
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be the winch, what you know, but you know, over a period
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of time, there is going to be an association with how old a car
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is to certain breakdowns. Okay. So age is simply an association. It
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doesn't cause the outcome. It's just associated with the outcome. And that's an
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important, very very important distinction, because people want to think that you're programmed,
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okay, that we're programmed to die, and then it is absolutely just
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not true. Okay, we have we have, we had app to it.
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People change their lifestyles, they lose their purpose in their twenties and thirties
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and forties, and their kids grow up and the things that they had a
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purpose for they don't do anymore. And then they have this idea that they're
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going to go retire. Okay, well that is just you just you're accepting
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death at that point in time because you're going to say, you know what,
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your body is going to adjust to the demands that you keep putting on
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it. And so so yeah, so the aging thing just not because,
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first of all, it's not a definable feature. Okay, eight, you
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don't die of one thing, Like you don't all die of a heart attack,
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you don't all die of pulmonary disease or stroke. So you have a
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whole list of age related or age associated mortality causes. And so even if
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you lived to a one hundred and ten years old and that person one hundred
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and ten dies, their whole body doesn't die a one hundred and ten.
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One of their functions died, one of the critical functions died. But maybe
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their muscles were still working, their heart might be still working, maybe the
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lungs they're working. So but just one critical function stopped working. So even
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at one hundred and ten, ninety percent of the body was still working.
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Fine, So I still was there. So I think this this is the
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issue people get. So I'm sorry, but it's it's it's a it's a
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defeatism perspective. They're trying to capture this portrait of Dorian Gray model of immortality,
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which is just not a reality based situation because time is you know,
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time doesn't stop. Okay, So you know what, doctor Goodenow, I
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just want to be sure that people understand that there there are choices that one
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makes that continual, make this continuum that you're discussing with us right now a
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personalized, customized experience. So it's if you mistreat your body, you are
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going to get that result. So you know, like they say, food
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is your is your health right? And our health as well, or all
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those kinds of platitudes, But what you're what you're describing is the possibility and
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not looking at the experience as a negative but as a positive. So it's
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not the it's not dyeing, it's the absence of life that that's a little
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it's it's semantic, but it's also very actionable. And so I just want
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our viewers to understand you do have choices and all of what doctor Goodenow is
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describing is the possibility. It seems utopian, but it actually isn't when you
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think about the steps along the way. So so maybe we could back up
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just for a moment, I think what we need to do is define a
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few terms, and one of them, of course, is prodrome and the
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other is plus malagen. Those are two terms that until I read your book
26:51
or met you, I never had heard of them. And I think I'm
26:53
pretty well immersed in a lot of the wellness nomenclature, so I'm sure that
27:00
many of my viewers would need those terms defined. So could you spend a
27:04
moment to sve for sure? Yeah, And so the prodrome is just technically
27:11
it's a dictionary word. It's that which comes before it is. It is
27:15
something that is predictive of a future event. And then plasmaogens are an actual
27:21
class of molecules that are in the body. It's a biochemical, one of
27:26
our natural biochemicals. And one last part of this aging thing, it's function.
27:30
So people should only think about maintaining function. Okay, if you maintain
27:34
the goal is maintain function indefinitely, and maintain function, and then people should
27:40
take all the things that they've done. If you've been successful in your life,
27:42
you've been successful in relationships. All those rules that apply in your everyday
27:48
life, they apply to your biochemistry as well. So don't think that the
27:52
body is some sort of black box and start seeking some magic pill or magic
27:57
you know. One time and I tell people so the prodrome process and plasmaogens.
28:04
It's kind of this triage approach. Like if you're a gardener, for
28:07
example, right, and you fertilize your lawn, so nitrogen is your number
28:11
one prior. You know, if you want to get nice plants, you
28:15
need nitrogen. But you know what if it doesn't rain, if you don't
28:17
water, no matter how much nitrogen you put on, you're not going to
28:19
get any use of the nitrogen. So you say, okay, first things
28:22
first, I need have enough water for my plant, and the second things,
28:26
so okay, nitrogen is the next big thing. So if I have
28:27
all the if I have water and I have nitrogen, then I say,
28:30
okay, what can I add more? Then you put your phosphorus and potash,
28:33
and then it's eventually you have all those in places, you know,
28:36
what else can I do? Then other little micronutrients become important. And so
28:41
sometimes what happens is that people have Scientists are bad for this, right because
28:45
we have decades and decades of historical knowledge, but it feels boring, like,
28:49
you know, I got to come up with something new. To talk
28:51
about it, like, I can't talk about this old stuff forever because you
28:53
know what am I? You know what am I getting paid for it?
28:56
I've got to come up with a new idea, Right, So we end
29:00
up getting really caught in the weeds, like this gene and that gene and
29:04
this particular metabolit is going to be, you know, a miracle, and
29:10
when we forget the real basics and stuff like those can be very valuable,
29:14
especially if you're taking care of all the rest. And that's where programs come
29:15
in. Okay, So the program basically says, one thing we know the
29:19
most accurately defined human condition is health. If you go online you look at
29:26
you know, biomarcus for Parkinson's or biomarkers for diabetes. Well, it's always
29:30
going to be controlled to a normal population. So like a normal population or
29:33
healthy population is always the control arm of every single trial. Right. And
29:38
so we get focused on the car accident and we lose sight of the operational
29:44
car on the other side. And what I've done basically says, you know
29:48
what, let's not focus on the car accident. Let's focus on the functionality
29:52
of the car so we can understand health and I don't need I don't need
29:56
to wait for my engine disease. I already know that if my engine oil
30:00
is low, that's bad. I don't have to wait for a cardiovaster event.
30:04
I don't have to wait for my vision to get blurry. I don't
30:07
have to wait okay for neuropathy. Okay, I can intervene at the deviation
30:14
from health stage. I don't need to know, you know, because that
30:18
can happen. There can be multiple consequences from one thing. And so that's
30:23
where the program testing comes in, right, is saying we know what the
30:29
healthy optional optional function is like that that is actually not ambiguous. We know
30:34
it now. What the hard part is we don't always know exactly how to
30:37
fix every single thing in the world, but fundamentally, conceptually, it's just
30:41
now a matter of that's where our scientific minds come in. And so the
30:45
plasmalogens are one of those really high up on the food chain. They're on
30:49
that water nitrogen level type of thing. They're one of the core components that
30:55
really affect our aging. So it's one of the places you want to start,
30:59
you know, good nutrition, your B vitamins and your mitochondrial health.
31:03
Obviously that's that's key. But the plasm mallagens are a big, big hammer,
31:07
And the reason why they're a big hammer is because we're so dependent on
31:11
them and we have rutually no nutritional supply of them. And how come goodness
31:17
started to get interrupted? But how come you don't hear more about plasm malagens?
31:21
And like I said, until I met you, I never read anything
31:25
about a plasm malagen as a as a mechanism for improving one's health. And
31:30
so why do you think it's been kept this kind of a mystery in the
31:34
and you know more of I mean, I'm just I'm just this to blame
31:38
for this. As I look. I have a PhD in neurochemistry, studying
31:42
brain chemistry. Okay, I never heard of plasm malagens until I saw them
31:47
on the mass spectrometer. Then I started looking at this stuff and I said,
31:49
well, you know what, there's some rare diseases with plast malagen deficiencies.
31:52
And the reason why I escaped the general medical community is because typically we're
31:59
pretty good at it. We're pretty good and robust at making these things,
32:01
and the analytical technology to measure them is hard, and they really really only
32:07
really affect us late in life, and so the study of age associated diseases
32:12
is not that long. Most of medicine has been focused on acute issues,
32:17
right, And what we've done a really good job over the last hundred years
32:21
is increasing the average time of death. Right, So average lifespans have gone
32:28
up dramatically because we have done a very good job of reducing premature death,
32:34
but maximum lifespans have virtually been unchanged, so we haven't been able to increase
32:39
lifespan, and that really is a different situation. So plus, malagins are
32:43
one of those critical things. I found them on the mass spectrometer. I
32:45
started doing research and I'm going, my goodness, gracious, like this is
32:50
there's like thirty percent of this stuff is your brain, your hearts, your
32:53
lungs. Children you know, young children have grown that are born prematurely and
32:59
they'll have bron Field displa asia, will have plasm malgin deficiencies. So it's
33:02
there, but it was kind of just buried. It's kind of going into
33:06
a town and going downtown and seeing a bowling alley walking in there and see
33:10
there's all these people bolling, and I just people still bowl Wow, there's
33:14
a whole world like and that's the biochemistry and science is the same way.
33:19
Everyone gets their own field, and very very often a specialty field will just
33:25
be there in its own little world about anyone knowing. Did you find it?
33:30
You had a lot of resistance with the in the allopathic even in the
33:34
regenerative medicine world, when you introduce this concept of a plasma. Really it's
33:42
the awareness is growing quite dramatically. The reality is that the results are really
33:45
dramatic, like an autism, like we see children getting better in literally weeks.
33:50
Like I just talked to one of my doctors yesterday and he said he
33:52
had a three year old autistic child, completely nonverbal, been on mitochondrial support
33:58
in the plasma elagins, and in three weeks he's speaking twenty five words.
34:01
Okay, right, this is crazy things I got. I got children with
34:07
terminal lucudystrophies that their brains are remielinating in their own plasmauageins. I got little
34:13
children that you've seen videos of a little thatcher. He has a rare disease
34:15
of our CDP. He couldn't walk, he was in a wheelchair, he
34:19
couldn't communicate, he runs and plays with his with his brothers. Now we
34:23
have significant improvement in dementia. So the doctors they have when they start using
34:31
them. That's the nice thing about it, it's there's an academic side of
34:35
it. Intellectually, I can say, yes, here's the science, here's
34:37
the logic, here's how it's supposed to work. But when you put it
34:42
in your real world situation and people see it themselves, it really is hard
34:46
to We're programmed not to believe you can cure anything or people. We're programmed
34:52
not to believe people get better. So soon start noticing that it doesn't take
34:58
very long for them to get convinced. Well, So how does a client,
35:01
a patient increase their plast malagens? What is the protocol that you use
35:07
for accomplishing that task. So one of the challenge with these plasm mallagens is
35:13
that I tell you there's a whole bunch in your heart, there's whole bunch
35:15
in the brain. So if I eat a nice juicy steak, why am
35:19
I not eating plast malagens? Right? Why can't I eat food? Supply?
35:22
And the problem is the very last step in their manufacturer creates this very
35:25
acid sensitive bond and so you can't eat plast malagens otherwise the product. So
35:31
I'm a chemist, So what I designed is a precursor, and that's what
35:35
human breast milk is designed for. So humans, our bodies have been smart
35:38
enough to know this themselves. So human breast milk make the mother makes plast
35:45
malagen precursors, not the actual plast malagen that are highly absorbed enter the brain.
35:49
And so I design molecules based upon human breast milk plast mallagen precursors that
35:55
can target two different types. One is targeting the synapse, like the the
36:00
signaling rate. These are the that's called protom Neural is a brand need and
36:04
has high levels of DHA and it's for increasing cognition, increasing neuromuscular function,
36:09
and it increases reverse chlesteral transport that type of thing. And then the other
36:14
one is that protective coding goes around your axons, and that's the omegan ninelic
36:20
acid version of the plasmallogens, and that is for myelination and that's what we
36:23
use for multiple scrosses for autism, for improve sleep, improves that type of
36:31
memory, and so that's the brand name the glia, right, right,
36:39
and so that's why. So that's why getting it in highly concentrated forms that
36:45
you can supplement yourself and restore it. So that's what happened for me personally.
36:50
Right. So when I did my before and after brain scans, I
36:52
was taking higher doses of the plasmaagen precursors and I was able to backfill,
36:59
if you will. I was able to reverse the gradual loss of plasmalogins that
37:05
was occurring in me. And that and so we have that kind of doctor.
37:09
So that's kind of where that's that's how you get plast malagans back into
37:12
your system. Okay, so the protom scan the one that you had me
37:16
do, which I will get the results I think next week. But when
37:21
you do that scan as a as a patient of your clinic, what are
37:25
the bio markets, what are other than what you just describe, What are
37:29
the the the results that you're going to see by having that scan done that
37:35
will help you to protocol. So what I did when I designed the protom
37:39
scan test is I cherry picked all the really the core components of physiological health
37:45
of a human being and kind of format that a doctor can look at and
37:52
get a twenty thousand or thirty thousand foot view of the individual. Okay,
37:55
these start. What are the problems with science is that people will take one
38:00
biomarker and the one to make a big interpretation like just your homo system alone,
38:04
for example, or your cholesterol level, and they'll try to use one
38:07
biomarker and interpret the whole story. And that's not an accurate way of looking
38:12
at a complex system like the human body. So protub scan looked at this
38:15
membrane structure and function. That can mention to those fossil lippets that are critical
38:20
for membrane structure and function. It measures those in the accurate way. Because
38:24
there's there's certain molecules that are really strong epidemiological risk factors fospil, coaline.
38:31
For example, people think of Steve Jobs, he died of pancreatic cancer.
38:35
Without even measuring his blood, I can guarantee that he had a coaline deficiency
38:38
because virtually all pancreatic cancer suffers are coalinge deficient before they get pancreatic cancer.
38:45
So he measure the coaling levels and it's a critical thing. Especially people that
38:47
are strict vegetarians. They can have challenges getting the right nutrients in their body.
38:52
Like it's okay to be a vegetarian, but you gotta remember you are
38:53
not a plant, okay, you are an actual mammal, so you have
38:58
nutritional requirements that a mammal requires. So if you're not going to eat other
39:02
mammals, you're going to have to make sure your food supply provides you with
39:07
those components. So just be smart about it. And so that's Coolins are
39:10
one of those issues that you sometimes don't get properly, you know. So
39:15
doctor Goodnow, what's the best way to get fostatital coline? I know,
39:17
I know lessin is has been touted, but there's some side effects for some
39:22
people with soy. So how do you how do you improve sastratital coline orally?
39:30
So that was a big challenge for me because there isn't a good source
39:35
out there other than eggs. The only real good source is egg yolks.
39:39
So actually this is good timing. I'm just launching an egg yolk oil supplement
39:45
that has natural animal based fossil coin. The other sources are sunflower and but
39:54
eggs. So the issue with the plant based or se oil based fossibel coin
40:01
is that it has high levels of lenolic acid. Your omega six, Yeah,
40:06
and it has the structure of the fossil coin is not natural to the
40:10
human body. Now the body will eventually convert it, but it takes extra
40:15
energy and you want so you want omega nine fossibel coin. That's what your
40:20
body wants, right, because you don't have too much omega six in the
40:22
body. That's one of the big enemies of the fish oils, right,
40:28
is to balance the dja epa with more omega three and omega six is associated
40:35
with the negative omega nine. One of the omegas that I was wondering about
40:40
two is omega seven sea bucks or and do you do you recommend that as
40:45
part of your protocol. No, it's it's a very small that those are
40:50
traced. When people talk about fats and lipids, don't try to get your
40:57
extra vitamins from those sources. Those are or nutrients. And so the issue
41:02
there's three being ones. You want to keep your saturated fats, which are
41:07
actually good for you. By the way, it's a total scam against saturated
41:10
fat. This is the best way to think about it. Okay, So
41:15
you have fat, like when you like your body makes you physically make fat
41:20
oil. It's called triclyst rights, and it sends it to your fat cells.
41:23
So the first question you might want to ask is, well, what
41:27
if the human body has to make fat, what kind of fat does the
41:30
human body want to make? And the type of fat that the human body
41:34
makes is saturated fat that palmitic and stearic acid plus it will make a nine.
41:39
Well, that's what the human body will make the store for later.
41:43
So your fat cells are your gas tanks. Okay, your body basically stores
41:46
energy with high density energy called fat triclist rights. That's what body basically stores.
41:54
So that's what and so when you're looking for a nutritional perspective, this
41:58
vague omega six dispersion that we've had really only happened in the last one hundred
42:02
years. Okay, prior this is when the seed oil industries and it actually
42:06
started with Crisco, with people trying to get get away with you know,
42:10
how do we deal with all these cotton seeds from the corn from the cotton
42:15
industry, And then you know, industry got better and better at it,
42:20
and so we got all these will make a six. So we really didn't
42:22
have a high will make a six diet at all until the last one hundred
42:25
years. So the reason why fossil coin is so important is it drives your
42:28
reverse cholesteral transport. Okay, so your HDL Okay, you're the quality of
42:32
your HDL transport system is really driven by your fossil coaling system, and that's
42:37
why coaling deficiencies are really bad, and that's why they have a high association
42:40
with cancer rates. So that's why you want to get So you know,
42:45
the plant based fossil coin is better than nothing, Okay. So I've been
42:50
struggling with this because you know, it's better to get plant based fossil coin
42:53
then be coaling deficient for sure. Okay, don't not take a plant based
42:59
fossil coin. But it's just not ideal for the human body. So I've
43:01
finally been able to design and manufacture and that's just I just I just actually
43:07
announced it here in August, so it hasn't it. Actually, we haven't
43:12
started shipping it yet, so by September we'll be shipping. I'd loved it.
43:16
I'd love to get some of that. For sure. You can blend
43:20
it with things like it mixes up and mixes anything up together, mixed movies
43:22
with it. And so I had a question because when I read your book,
43:28
I was really quite happy about this, but I wanted to ask you
43:32
about it. You say that cholesterol, which of course the allopathic world tries
43:38
to tell you to be two hundred or below, but you say in the
43:43
low two hundreds or even to I think in one place in your book you
43:45
said two twenty to two forty ideal level. But that's really going against,
43:52
of course, the pharmaceutical industry that wants to sell you more stat and drugs,
43:55
and so they lower it. But of course we people who are studying
44:00
this, no, the cholesterol is actually good. It's it's just the size
44:04
of your particles and and the bad cholesterol that can you know, you know,
44:09
block your arteries. But but you're focused on the cholesterol absolute plus the
44:15
HDL, which is the transport. So can you just give us some markers
44:20
of what to look for in our blood work, So it's two twenty to
44:25
two forties, then don't get the quick shortlist. So we talked about we
44:29
started, we got on a sidetrack with the progom scan. But let's talk
44:30
about because cholesterol is in the progom scan test. Yes, yeah, the
44:35
whole this obsession with little cholesterol is probably one of the biggest health scams ever.
44:39
Okay, it's just not true. Like the epidemiological data is undeniable.
44:45
It is extremely robust. People with cholesterol between two twenty and two forty have
44:50
the longest lifespans, full stop period. As soon as your total cholesterol level
44:53
gets below two hundred, you're all cost mortality goes up. That's just an
44:57
absolute fact. It's not even up for question. So the question now becomes,
45:01
where did all of this statin cholesterol lowering concept, Like, why do
45:06
we how do this even get in to our mindset? If this epidemiology is
45:10
so damn clear, how could we even remotely get into this mess that we're
45:15
in. And the reality is is that oxidized LDL okay, when you have
45:20
oxidative stress, okay, and cholesterol, which is not the cholesterol but the
45:23
LDL particle that carries cholesterol. That's a whole different conversation about different chlestero particles
45:29
getting the weeds, and they forget about the big issue is that when you
45:32
have oxidaid stress and you get oxidized LDL okay, that is pro athrogenic,
45:38
so it'll promote asclerosis. And so what the geniuses in the pharmaceutical industry did
45:45
is they emit the molecule called statins. And what statins do is they block
45:50
your cell's ability to make chlesterol. Okay, but your body needs cholesterol.
45:53
It's one of the it's probably the most one of the most important molecules of
45:55
the entire human body. Right but and you also need it for your hormones.
46:00
All your hormones come from cholesterol, like you know, many of them.
46:04
So anyway, so it stands they block your cells ability to make cholesterol,
46:07
and so it forces all your cells to suck cholesterol to the blood supply
46:09
because they can't make their own, they have to pull it in. And
46:13
that's why how that's how cholesterol, that's how statins lower your LVL. And
46:16
so if I, if I, if I force yourselves to take up all
46:19
this cholesterol, it will bring in any kind of oxidized LDL that you have.
46:24
So and this has been proven very very unambiguously in the clinical literature.
46:29
Statins have no positive impact on cardiovascar outcomes people with low oxidative stress. Only
46:37
if you have a high CRP Okay, will the statins have an outcome?
46:42
Well, you know what, there's lots of ways to lower in your CRP
46:45
without us. So bottom line is if you keep your oxidative stress level,
46:49
low cholesterol levels are completely benign to the human body and actually long term.
46:54
So the other things that let me, let me give you some really high
46:58
points for people we have limited time. The other one that you can get
47:01
on your regular lab test you put in the proto scamp, but you can
47:04
get it anywhere is your creating it. Now, they measure this for your
47:08
kidney function, but it's more important than high creatin. Of course, really
47:13
really high is bad because your kidneys are feeling. But for most of us
47:15
looking for longevity and health and vitality, it's low creating. It a low
47:21
creating and dries muscle wasting in the elderly. And it's one of the most
47:24
critical biomarkers that we don't take advantage of. And it's so easy to fix.
47:30
You just go to the healthful story and creating it. Okay, it's
47:34
cheapest dirt comes in a big bucket, okay, and take creatin creatine.
47:38
So creatine is something that everybody over the age of forty should be on period
47:43
full stop. And when it does, it does two things. Not only
47:45
does it restore the fossil creatine and your muscles, which is critical, which
47:51
is where this creating it comes from. And then but it also reduces your
47:54
homo system levels because your mental trends, like your body makes your body will
47:59
make to five grams of creating every day for your body, your muscles,
48:02
your brain. We use it for short term energy and it's a really high
48:07
metaball demand. So if you take creating as a supplement, what you're doing
48:13
is you're you're relieving, You're taking the pressure off your own internal system.
48:16
So creating supplementation is a must for anyone who wants good health, healthy muscle
48:22
growth and development as to get older, because muscle wasting is a big thing.
48:25
You think taking it as a powder is better than a capsule and the
48:30
creating because it's hard. It's just so hard to get enough capsules. I
48:35
take my creating with my morning coffee, like I just mixes with anything,
48:37
so and that's where I put it in my coffee in the morning. And
48:40
yours is a powder. Who who's whose brand do you like? Oh,
48:44
it doesn't really matter. Just the creating mono manoa monohydrate anything they call it.
48:52
Yeah, but people people say they get a stomach disorder, a stomach
48:55
upset sometimes with creatine. So that's why I asked you is the one.
49:00
There's a whole bunch of versions out there. Basically, you find one that
49:04
you work with, like I just use seriously, I use the bulk,
49:07
yeah, mono hydrate. But if you have an adverse reaction, look try
49:12
a different one. Like there's creatine hydrochloride. Again, all these manufacturers are
49:15
always gonna they're always trying to compete with each other, so they're always going
49:17
to have one gimmick or another. And so the trick is you find one
49:21
that works for you. But creating want to hydrate it's around forever. Chances
49:24
are half these manufacturers probably using the same core manufacturer. They're just putting different
49:29
label on the damn things anyways. So that's that's one thing. So creatine
49:32
keep an eye on that. It'll also if you're having a hard time getting
49:36
your homo system down, you're taking your B vitamins and B twelve and folate,
49:38
you're doing all this stuff right, and your homo systeine levels keep on
49:43
staying high and I'm doing everything right. What's wrong with it? Probably because
49:45
you're creating deficient okay, and if you're deficient, then that's that's also means
49:52
just flash for tital coline. It's going to be off well because yeah,
49:55
because the mental transfer system makes your own. So that's that's the other reason
50:00
why fossible coin subpmentation is so important because it takes the pressure off your bodies.
50:06
It's not considered an essential nutrient because your body can make it, but
50:09
it's a lot of energy to make it. So why don't you give your
50:12
body a bit of a hand and give it some stuff for free? Okay,
50:15
you know, let let the damn chicken make the fossible coin for you.
50:20
So and so then and then that's where you kind of go. And
50:22
then the next big thing is you're fasting triglist rides. This is another big
50:25
thing that people don't get right. Right, your fasting triclist rides under a
50:29
hundred. You don't want to weigh down and you know anorexia forties and fifties,
50:34
but you want to be in that sixty to ninety range. Yeah,
50:37
you go in and you get your fasting triclist rides and they're one hundred and
50:39
twenty, they're gonna say, oh, you're normal. Or but when your
50:44
triglist rides are over one hundred, you're gonna anyone will have a very hard
50:46
time losing weight because what you're doing is you're recycling your fat. Yeah,
50:52
the triclist ride. So the triglist rides, Okay, that's fat. Like
50:55
the triclist rides in your blood. That's like olive oil on your cover.
50:59
It's fundamentally it's exactly the same molecule as the olive oil in your covered.
51:02
So what your body is doing is you're eating and it's storing energy for later.
51:07
So what you're supposed to your body has two gears. It has a
51:08
fed gear in a fasting gear. So when you eat a meal, that's
51:12
when you go to the gas station and you're filling up with the gas,
51:15
right, and it's filling a gas tank up, and the gas tank is
51:17
all these little fat cells in your body. That's your gas tank for later.
51:21
And so once the short term energy of your meal, like once your
51:24
gut digests the food, okay, at a certain period of time, your
51:29
body switches to a fasting state and then at that time it switches and all
51:32
of a sudden, your fat cells start releasing fatty acids for your energy,
51:37
like your whole body, and your body fundamentally wants to run in the fasting
51:40
state, and this is what prevents a lot of cancers is just maintaining the
51:44
fasting state. So if you're in the fasting state and your fat cells are
51:50
releasing all these fatty acids to all the cells of your body, and if
51:53
your triglyst riders are over one hundred, those cells are taking the fatty acids
51:57
saying oh, I can't take all this stuff, and there is recycling it.
52:00
They're turning it back into the triglist rice and they're sending about your fat
52:04
cells. So getting your triglist rights under a hundred are critical because it indicates
52:09
that you are in a good you're metabolically efficient. If you have fasting triglist
52:15
rice over a hundred, your body is metabolically inefficient. It's like driving down
52:21
the highway with the guy in front of with the smoke coming out the back
52:22
of his pail tail pipe. That's what your body's doing. If your triglyst
52:25
rize over a hundred, your body's just smoking it's recycling stuff. Well,
52:30
I have a question for you. So, just in my own situation,
52:32
I did my blood work in March, and then I did something again the
52:36
other day just to do a follow up and a very very exhaustive panel of
52:40
blood tests that my regenerative regenerative medicine doctor requires. So anyway, ninety five
52:50
trigostrize last time in March, and now they went up to one hundred and
52:53
seventeen and justin free you know, the few months. So what did I
52:58
do wrong? What? And what would happen? You know, what would
53:00
you recommend to if people like me who suddenly they go from under one hundred
53:06
to over one hundred? What did they do? So? Two things.
53:09
So, one thing that is important is your neuromuscular health, like your skeletal
53:16
muscle okay, so when people have improved proxysomal function. That so if you
53:23
have, if you're doing everything right. But number one is this creatine thing
53:28
and maintaining skeletal muscle mass. Okay. Your skeletal muscles are the main consumers
53:34
your heart for example, these are main consumers of your fatty acids. That's
53:38
what happens with aging as a general, aging aging as a disease. No,
53:43
what happens is you start losing skeletal muscle mass, and your body,
53:46
those skeletal muscles are no longer eating these fatty acids, and so your body,
53:52
your fat cells don't know any different. They're still releasing it, but
53:55
you're you don't have the muscle capacity to burn them up, and so your
53:59
cell step recycling it. So skeleton muscle, mitochondrial health like the carnatines,
54:04
like the anacetal systeine. Yeah, if your mitochondrial health gets impaired, then
54:12
rack list rids will creep up a little bit, right, And but don't
54:15
get obsessed. That's not super bad, okay where you're at, and it
54:17
could be on any given Sunday. And I, you know, that's what
54:22
we have our own labs because you know, I like to trust. I
54:25
don't. I'm a very suspicious, untrusting person when it comes to kind of
54:30
work, and so I like it. It's normal normal for what you know.
54:34
They when they put these on the lab tests, they're they're really quite
54:37
can be quite misleading as Yeah, so I'm really excited to get your tests.
54:44
Like, think about normal vitamin Like if we use normal levels for vitamin
54:47
D. Okay, nobody would be on the proper vitamin D salpmentation because the
54:52
natural normal levels are all low. Okay, So and so that's that happened.
54:58
That's what happens with track list riders. But in the opposite way,
55:00
and how those numbers come up is all these lab tests. Okay, they
55:06
were originally designed for acute care medicine. Right there. You know, you've
55:09
got a person in an acts, in a situation, or a serious health
55:14
condition, and they're looking for how do I diagnose a disease? Right?
55:19
They have? They're not they were never designed for diagnosing health. There were
55:23
to diagnose a disease. So if you have a serious problem and you trick
55:28
liscerizer at three hundred or something, right, and your blood looks like it's
55:30
white, that's what it looks like. If it's got hyperp lipidemic, then
55:37
you got a serious problem, right, they could have. You could have
55:38
a cute liver failure or something like that. That's where these blood tests were
55:42
designed to look at these really really high levels, and so epidemiologically, you
55:47
know, getting trick listrizers a risk factor. They're not looking at optimized health.
55:52
They're looking at outcomes for disease end points. That's why these blood test
56:00
measurements, so the create the creatinin right, you measure that for kidney clearance.
56:06
The other one that people misuse is uric acid. Okay, this is
56:09
another thing. This obsession with low uric acid has got to stop. Also,
56:14
high uric acid is bad. Like if it gets way high gout Okay,
56:17
just a little little little nugget of information. Gout have higher intelligence than
56:24
non gelic So people uric acid have higher levels of intelligence than non and that's
56:30
because uric acid is basically an indicator of your NAD levels. So you don't
56:35
want super high levels because that would be gout. Okay, but uric acid
56:37
is like the human body vitamin C. Low levels are far more dangerous.
56:44
Low levels are found in Parkinson's and multiple scrosses and Alzheimer's and so low levels
56:47
of uric acid are really highly associated with neurological insufficiencies and usually any d deficiency.
56:55
So take and you can take some of these simple items like just hyacinth,
57:00
like a lot of this. And that's the problem with some of this
57:04
advanced nutrition is that some of these solutions are old. Yeah, and they
57:09
and their cheapest dirt to you. And so as a company is in an
57:15
industry like how do you make how do you make a profit selling stuff that
57:19
has been around for a hundred years and it's it's it's cheap, cheap,
57:22
cheap, And so people are always trying to find some little nuance to differentiate
57:28
themselves in the marketplace. And some of those stuffs are valuable, right,
57:30
but a lot of it, you know, in an short term thing.
57:35
But when you're talking about longevity and you're thinking about I want to live for
57:37
the next three hundred years, so I'm gonna I'm gonna be taking something not
57:40
I don't really care about the one week effect of something like I want the
57:45
multiyear effects. So if I have if I take the proper B vitamins for
57:49
a proper period of time, my body should get equilibrated to that. Right,
57:54
And I'm interested in having the things that my body naturally wants to have,
58:00
Okay, Like what are the natural intermediates in our food supply? What
58:04
are the natural intermediates in our own human biochemistry? And so how do we
58:07
how do we engineer ourselves not try to outsmart the human body, but actually
58:14
just try to say, I just want to figure it out and just I
58:16
just want to give it what it's asking for. So I want to me,
58:20
I want to I want to be able to listen to the body.
58:22
I want to say, please tell me what you're missing. Like how does
58:24
a body tell me what it's missing? We can tell me is through advanced
58:29
blood testing. That's how the that's how the body talks to me, it
58:32
says, that's how it tells me, because it can't go to the grocery
58:36
store and pick out a bottle of ice cream versus a bottle of coconut milk,
58:39
like it can't tell the difference. Like that's my job. But it
58:43
can at least tell me what's going wrong. But if I'm not listening to
58:46
that person, okay, I can't I can't do anything. I can't help
58:51
I can't help my body if I don't listen to my body. And that's
58:53
our job as and so that's what I'm trying to you know, And it's
58:58
a lifelong ambition because you know, and we pick try to pick away one
59:00
at a time the best we can start with the big issues. And you'd
59:06
be surprised how often you fix a couple of the big issues, and all
59:08
these little issues go away, right, information, shoulder pain, psoriasis,
59:15
eximas, some of these things that you know you've been fighting forever with this
59:19
cream and that cream and the other thing, and all of a sudden,
59:22
your internal biochemistry is working properly, right, that goes away. Yeah,
59:27
And you know, one thing on nice and I think we should tell people
59:30
that it is better to take the flush nice and even though it's a little
59:34
uncomfortable after you take it, but it does far more good than the non
59:37
flush, right that. And I think you mentioned to me that you take
59:42
nice and flush, and I was really happy to hear that because I hate
59:45
I hate it when I take it that I feel that kind of frickliness and
59:52
maybe a little bit cold, even though it's wormed out. You know,
59:54
you get that kind of body temperature thing. But knowing that it's doing the
59:59
good that it does, the circulation effect and the cholesterol diminishing are the bad
1:00:06
cholesterol diminishing, it's really good at getting your h DAIL levels up. Yeah.
1:00:09
I have the same way, like the flushing is uncomfortable, Like I've
1:00:14
built my like I take five hundred million grounds a day, and a lot.
1:00:19
Obviously, I can't take it before my podcast with you other a huge
1:00:22
red face, right, So part of it when you know when you're going
1:00:24
to the office or you're going to work, right. I did this a
1:00:28
couple of times. I go to a meeting and they think I'm gonna have
1:00:30
a heart attack, are going to pass out because I got this big red
1:00:32
flush on me so days. So so those days I take my I try
1:00:37
to take it at night, right, and then then nobody sees the flushing
1:00:40
because it's gone by morning. But yeah, it's that's the challenge is fitting
1:00:45
it in your day. But it does look like you have a great sun
1:00:47
time when you take it that I have had people comment on that. Although
1:00:51
I'm very uncomfortable, I know that it's making my face look like glowing,
1:00:54
you know. So that I spoke with Jessica today or assistant and so kindly
1:01:00
and generously made an offer for you. I hope you don't mind. And
1:01:04
maybe she hasn't spoken to you, but she did. First ten people that
1:01:08
are listening today or viewing this podcast, if they contact me at my website,
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which I'll tell you in a minute, and I'll have it flashed on
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the screen that the first ten people that use the age with code will get
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your book for free. Act did you know about that? Yeah, she
1:01:27
sent me an email. Okay, okay, problem, that sounds great.
1:01:32
Okay, So for everyone that's listening my website, I mean my email is
1:01:37
the Michelle Hughes Company at gmail dot com. And Michelle is with one L
1:01:44
and an E, and company is spelled out singular, So the Michelle Hughes
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Company at gmail dot com. We'll flash that on the screen when we edit
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the tape. And and so if you want that book and you're the one
1:01:57
of the first ten, I'll be keeping count, call me and I'll let
1:02:00
doctor Goodnow's office know. So anyway, I just want to be sure we
1:02:05
got that in. So, Doctor Goodnow, I think we're going to need
1:02:08
to do a follow up because I watched your presentation the other day that you
1:02:13
so kindly sent me, and there was so many things that you said that
1:02:16
are even more current than your book that you know, so you're you're you're
1:02:22
moving target. Of course, you're a scientist, so there's always going to
1:02:27
be a new discovery, and you have so many patents, and so would
1:02:30
it be okay if maybe like in six months or so, we could do
1:02:35
a follow up with you. That would be great. I love it and
1:02:37
well, and people can follow my research at doctor goodenow dot com. There's
1:02:43
always something going on there and they can order your products that you have to
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do it through a physician. Correct if they want to get dot com they're
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they're the plus Mountains something. They're all dietary shuffling, so they are there
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are commercial there are you know, private available Okay, okay, they can
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order it off, but they can come to your company as well. Yeah.
1:03:04
I always recommend like one of the practicing positions because it's just nice to
1:03:07
have a guide in your path, like there's no harm in doing it yourself.
1:03:10
And we have a large you know, Facebook groups with children with autism
1:03:15
or parents with autism and so on. So yeah, so now we're we
1:03:20
want to help as many people as we can, So solutions are we try
1:03:23
to make as many solutions available to as many people as possible. And you
1:03:27
know, big hearts and and lots of lots of love and desire to give
1:03:30
back and and doing so through you know, very solid science and it's just
1:03:38
making a huge difference in the world. So thank you. Thank you.
1:03:42
Thank you for everything you've done and all your your research since nineteen ninety.
1:03:46
I guess it was right that you became. So there's a impassions right all
1:03:52
of this. So all right, well we have a date. I'll you
1:03:54
know, definitely, let you know in six months and then I'll be talking
1:03:58
to you next week and about my other the test results. Okay, look
1:04:02
forward to it. Thank you very much, Michelle. Okay, thank you
1:04:05
so much again. Take care, I have a beautiful all right, by bye,