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BABY OIL SO DEEP AT FREAK-OFF CAUSES 2 SLIP & FALLS, DIDDY "MANIFESTING VERDICT," JUROR 6 BOOTED · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Baby oil so deep at a free cough it causes
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  Speaker 2: to slip and falls.
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  Speaker 3: Just hold that mental image.
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  Speaker 2: This as Diddy bringing a book into court so he
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  Speaker 2: can manifest a verdict. Okay, good luck with that. This
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  Speaker 2: as jerr R six gets the boot.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 3: This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
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  Speaker 3: being with us.
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  Speaker 1: He abused everybody on every level.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of them have never come forward. They'd rather
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  Speaker 4: just disappear, forget about it. They're too scared.
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  Speaker 5: Diddy was menacing, threatening, intimidating.
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  Speaker 6: She talked about how he was violent, he was threatening.
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  Speaker 7: They are terrified of him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: That is absolutely inhumane, inexcusable treatment of another human being.
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  Speaker 2: Straight out to the Manahan Federal Courthouse where Seawan Combs
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  Speaker 2: aka Diddy facing a multi count federal indictment including rico
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  Speaker 2: and sex trafficking. Standing by outside the courthouse is investigative
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  Speaker 2: reporter and host of TISA Tails on YouTube, Tisa Tales,
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  Speaker 2: Tisa thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: A lot happening in court today.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just kick it off, pardon the pun with Juror
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  Speaker 2: number six getting kicked off, booted off the jury.
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  Speaker 1: What happened.
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  Speaker 7: So we went into the courtroom and it was solemn.
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  Speaker 7: Oddly enough did he came in with a smile on
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  Speaker 7: his face like he had just won the golden ticket
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  Speaker 7: from Willy Wonka. However, that smile disappeared when the judge
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  Speaker 7: actually laid out in a very surgical, precise manner, exactly
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  Speaker 7: why he wasn't getting his dream. However, there was another
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  Speaker 7: shock upset where after he dismissed you German number six,
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  Speaker 7: and we'll get into that, he actually said there is
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  Speaker 7: a second juror that is up on the line for
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  Speaker 7: possible dismissal, and he invited both sides to write a
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  Speaker 7: list of questions so they can question a juror and
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  Speaker 7: see if the new juror will actually be allowed to
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  Speaker 7: stay to So a lot was going on in the
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  Speaker 7: court today.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, tast of tails remind us all how many alternates
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  Speaker 2: we've got in the hopper.
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  Speaker 7: So right now we have officially five alternates. It started
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  Speaker 7: a classic set, you know, a jurors doesn't and then
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  Speaker 7: there were six alternates. Now that one man has moved
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  Speaker 7: in to the place. If you're a number six, there
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  Speaker 7: are five alternates left. And with the second jar. If
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  Speaker 7: there's less, it looks like we might be down to
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  Speaker 7: four alternates.
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  Speaker 2: Tasta tails Did the court acknowledge who the next juror
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  Speaker 2: that may get the boot is?
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  Speaker 3: Which jurr is it?
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  Speaker 7: So the court didn't give any identifying information except for
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  Speaker 7: the fact. And this goes into the judge giving such
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  Speaker 7: a hard line. As you saw the judge laying out
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  Speaker 7: Toy's space just looked like a very very bad day.
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  Speaker 7: Shoulders started falling, he started looking angrily at his lawyers.
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  Speaker 7: All the judge did say is that this juror in
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  Speaker 7: question actually approached the court and said, Hey, I don't
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  Speaker 7: know what's going on, just wanted to be candid with you.
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  Speaker 7: That seems to be the magic word of the hour.
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  Speaker 7: I want to be candid with you. And because of
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  Speaker 7: that candor, the judge is now taking that to invicement.
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  Speaker 7: But they haven't given any identifying information and they are
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  Speaker 7: trying to keep this under wraps.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand what you just said, Tisa Tailors
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  Speaker 2: joining us outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse, TISA number one,
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  Speaker 2: j'r six gone out of there booted. We'll get into
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  Speaker 2: wine just a moment. And of course, it's the ground
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  Speaker 2: for another motion of miss Tralla mistrial by Shawn Combe's
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  Speaker 2: defense team.
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  Speaker 1: Is it valid?
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  Speaker 2: No, But you know, you never know if you get
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  Speaker 2: one wacko appellate judge what might go wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: That said, now another jarar is in jeopardy. Now, are
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  Speaker 2: you telling me that the second questionable.
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  Speaker 1: There are approach the court themselves?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, that is what my sources are telling me. That
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  Speaker 7: the second juror actually approached the court themselves. Showed that
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  Speaker 7: candor that everybody is that sid magic word, showed that candor,
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  Speaker 7: and the judge invited both sides to say, listen, write
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  Speaker 7: your list of questions for the jurors and for the juror,
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  Speaker 7: and later on we will ax those questions. Again, they're
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  Speaker 7: being a super tight lipt. They're probably going to clear
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  Speaker 7: the court room. But as of now, we were shocked,
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  Speaker 7: and Ditty was shocked too that there was a second juror.
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  Speaker 7: Literally when he said the second jur in question, Diddy
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  Speaker 7: had to look like what is going on and was
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  Speaker 7: looking at his defense team furiously. After that, the jurors
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  Speaker 7: hadn't been bombed yet. They were in huddles just to
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  Speaker 7: defense team the prosecution cool and calm sitting there going
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  Speaker 7: over there notes on how they're going to destroy Diddy
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  Speaker 7: today and the defense team was in crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Meltdownload, okay, hold on just a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me at the courthouse is Taste of Tails straight
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  Speaker 2: out to City Sun, joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter
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  Speaker 2: also covering the courthouse, Sidney. Do you have you been
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  Speaker 2: able to speculate yet which juror the second juror in jeopardy.
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  Speaker 8: May be Nancy? We don't know, but it surprises me
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  Speaker 8: that Combs was so shocked by this, and that could
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  Speaker 8: mean a number of things. But we know that behind
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  Speaker 8: bars he was actively trying to weigh the jury a
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  Speaker 8: little bit.
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  Speaker 9: He's getting all of his kids to participate in these
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  Speaker 9: pr campaigns to make him look like a loving father
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  Speaker 9: and not the man that the government is making him
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  Speaker 9: out to be.
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  Speaker 2: Or they You know, again, when you don't know a horse,
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  Speaker 2: look at his track record.
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  Speaker 1: We know and Sydney and Tasa jump in if you
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  Speaker 1: need to.
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  Speaker 2: We know that apparently Sean Combs has tried to influence
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  Speaker 2: witnesses from behind bars and has.
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  Speaker 1: Been reprimanded about that.
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  Speaker 2: Would he go so far as to try and contact
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  Speaker 2: a Gurr joining me veteran trial lawyer Troy Slayton, criminal
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  Speaker 2: defense attorney out of LA at Slayton Lawyers, Troy that
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  Speaker 2: will take the cake. If this juror is approaching the
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  Speaker 2: judge saying, somebody contacted me over the weekend, I find
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  Speaker 2: it really interesting that this is happening on a Monday, right.
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  Speaker 2: What if anything happened over the weekend to shake this
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  Speaker 2: juror into approaching the bench with a problem.
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  Speaker 1: What about it? What else could have happened over the weekend.
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  Speaker 10: It could be any number of things, Nancy. And it
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  Speaker 10: looks like all the jurors have the fear of God
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  Speaker 10: in them because one jur has been dismissed. And if
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  Speaker 10: it's found that that jur who is dismissed actually lied
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  Speaker 10: during the dear process, which is the jury questioning, you know,
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  Speaker 10: let the truth come out. That's what the Latin phrase means, Nancy.
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  Speaker 10: As you know, then all the jurors could be really
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  Speaker 10: fearful and thinking about geez, did I say anything wrong?
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  Speaker 10: Did I make a mistake during voidir But this is
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  Speaker 10: a great opportunity for the defense to get a mistrial
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  Speaker 10: because if Diddy's attorneys can show that this that a
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  Speaker 10: juror is being dismissed for a racial reason. Then they're
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  Speaker 10: going to make what's called a bats in motion to
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  Speaker 10: get a whole new trial, which would mean that everything
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  Speaker 10: that they've seen so far is just a preview.
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  Speaker 3: This is what we're hearing.
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  Speaker 2: We're hearing that this juror I'm calling it juror the
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  Speaker 2: second juror.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you'r six is gone.
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  Speaker 2: That's saber with And I'm going to go into why,
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  Speaker 2: because now it's an issue for a mistrial. Right is
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  Speaker 2: it valid? No, it's not valid. The judge did the
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  Speaker 2: right thing. And I think even you, Troy Slater and
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  Speaker 2: gonna agree with me on this.
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  Speaker 1: But that's it.
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  Speaker 2: And remember keeping in mind, Troy, as you know already
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  Speaker 2: you're a veteran trial lawyer, copellot team is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a completely different team than the trial lawyers.
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  Speaker 1: Typically, that's true, right.
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  Speaker 2: One of the reasons, and the trial lawyers know this
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  Speaker 2: is because the appellate team, if there's a conviction, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be appealed.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the appellate.
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  Speaker 2: Team will claim, right or wrong, that the trial lawyers
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  Speaker 2: were ineffective, that they did this wrong, they did that wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and that is SOP standard operating procedure. Every defense attorney
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  Speaker 2: knows if there's a conviction, they're going to be accused
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  Speaker 2: of ineffective assistance a counsel on appeal. Why they're willing
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  Speaker 2: to undergo that to help their client get a reversal.
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  Speaker 1: It's part of the fee.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just say so.
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  Speaker 2: My point is a new appella team would be handling
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  Speaker 2: this on appeal so they can attack the trial team
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  Speaker 2: saying they should have let this jurr be thrown off.
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  Speaker 1: This wasn't right.
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  Speaker 2: We demand a new trial. Now as to juror number two, Troy,
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  Speaker 2: listen to this. This is what I'm learning. Let me
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  Speaker 2: say the second gerar all right, I don't know the
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  Speaker 2: gr number attached to the juror.
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  Speaker 1: The GURR approached the judge.
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  Speaker 2: The judge has asked to see the gurrr's phone. The
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  Speaker 2: phone was handed over and is going to be examined.
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  Speaker 2: We understand the second questionable gurr was questioned over a conversation.
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  Speaker 3: He may have had with a colleague.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's interpret that because you know, Troy, have you
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  Speaker 2: ever run out of alternates? I have not, and the
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  Speaker 2: reason is I typically would pick at least six alternates
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  Speaker 2: for a trial, but for a long lasting trial that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be over three weeks, you need a stable
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  Speaker 2: of alternates because anything could go wrong. I have had
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  Speaker 2: girrs drop out, have you.
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  Speaker 10: I've had jurors drop out. I've had jurors get kicked out.
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  Speaker 10: I've had jurors get sick. But I've never run out
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  Speaker 10: of jurors. We've gone down to zero alternates before in
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  Speaker 10: a jury trial, but I've never had a mistrial because
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  Speaker 10: of a lack of jurors. But it can happen.
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  Speaker 2: But I know that Diddy's cannap and I've had stars
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  Speaker 2: on a couple of cases get off because one a
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  Speaker 2: husband had a heart attack, she had to go to
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  Speaker 2: another jurr art was having chest pains. They had to
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  Speaker 2: go and something about child care. It wasn't critical, but
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  Speaker 2: the woman was so upset about not sure she had
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  Speaker 2: childcare for the next day.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think she could focus.
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  Speaker 2: And I really liked her, but she was so distracted
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  Speaker 2: and upset about her child care situation we cut her loose.
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  Speaker 3: Those are just the ones I remember off the top
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  Speaker 3: of my head.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't like going to an alternate because I
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  Speaker 2: like my twelve that I picked, but you got to
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  Speaker 2: do what.
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  Speaker 1: You got to do.
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  Speaker 2: But here I think they should have had more than
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  Speaker 2: six alternates. But that said, this is where we are
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  Speaker 2: right now and Bethany Marshall joining us. Real psychoanalyst out
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  Speaker 2: of the Barely Hills jurisdiction, author of deal Breakers. You
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  Speaker 2: can see her now on Peacock and find her at
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  Speaker 2: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor Bethany, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Did you hear Tasa Tales?
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  Speaker 8: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Let me go back for a refresher, then I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you up for you again, Bethany, Tasa Tales. You stated
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  Speaker 2: that in the midst of juror number six, potentially getting
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  Speaker 2: kicked off, Seawn Comms came into the court room looking
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  Speaker 2: oh happy.
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  Speaker 7: Happy as static. There were smiles everywhere, and I literally said,
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  Speaker 7: what are they telling, Diddy, Because even though yourself and
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  Speaker 7: a lot of legal professionals are saying there is no
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  Speaker 7: way in hell a misschild is happening. He always seemed happy,
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  Speaker 7: but today he was almost on his tippy toes, floating
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  Speaker 7: into court with an air of happiness.
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  Speaker 1: Again.
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  Speaker 7: He had I think two motions for a mistrial. He
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  Speaker 7: had the jural number six. I think he thought he
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  Speaker 7: had the deck stack. But again, justice is the house
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  Speaker 7: that he's playing against, and they literally had they call.
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  Speaker 1: It black chat.
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  Speaker 7: So it was a lot going on. But I've never
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  Speaker 7: seen somebody that happy for motions that we're just on
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  Speaker 7: smoking air. Does very odd to.
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  Speaker 2: See, Yeah, especially when the emotions are against him. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're the tide is against him on these motions. So
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  Speaker 2: doctor Bethany, he's happy. Why does he know something we
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  Speaker 2: don't know? I would not put it past him strictly
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  Speaker 2: based on the fact that we believe he was trying
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  Speaker 2: to dissuade witnesses from coming forward, and we.
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  Speaker 1: Know that for a fact.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that anybody has gotten to a girrar?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, Nancy, he's manifesting a not guilty verdict,
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  Speaker 5: So of course he's happy because his prayers have worked.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, seriously, Pete, did he has such a vast
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  Speaker 5: network it would we would have to have an org
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  Speaker 5: chart to try to figure out who he's gotten in
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  Speaker 5: touch with. It's probably multiple people. But you know, Nancy,
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  Speaker 5: two words come to mind, Becky Hill. Remember that the
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  Speaker 5: Colton County clerk who wrote a book about the Murdoch trial,
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  Speaker 5: and then after she wrote the book, she realized she
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  Speaker 5: could get in trouble for it. So there's also a
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  Speaker 5: possibility that the jur number two realized that he or
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  Speaker 5: she had done things that they would get in trouble
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  Speaker 5: for if it came to light, so they had to
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  Speaker 5: turn themselves in after Juror number six was dismissed.
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  Speaker 2: So Sidney Sumner joining US crime story is investigative reporter
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  Speaker 2: Jurrr six was booted because he lives outside the jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 2: That is reversible error. For instance, Uh, let's just pretend you, Sydney,
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  Speaker 2: are being tried for murder. We can't fly somebody in
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  Speaker 2: from Utah to be on your jury.
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  Speaker 3: That is the law.
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  Speaker 2: The jurors must in the jurisdiction where the case is
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  Speaker 2: being tried.
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  Speaker 1: Get it now. If it's a state case, such.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, murder Ray Chamlay Station, the jura must
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  Speaker 2: come from that county. In a federal trial, this is
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  Speaker 2: a district It encompasses several counties within the district. The
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  Speaker 2: federal district however, that's in New York. This jur is
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  Speaker 2: residing in New Jersey. That is not in the jurisdiction
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  Speaker 2: Is that right, Sydney. Is that why the jarar was booted.
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  Speaker 8: That's exactly why the juror was booted, Nancy. But further
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  Speaker 8: than that, he also was not handed again that word
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  Speaker 8: of the day when he was questioned and pressed on
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  Speaker 8: this issue. So he first answered that he lived in
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  Speaker 8: the Bronx and he lived there with his aunt and
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  Speaker 8: occasionally spent time in New Jersey with his girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: And his daughter.
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  Speaker 8: Then when he was gradually talking about this with court staff,
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  Speaker 8: he was like, Oh, actually, I really live in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 8: I don't spend that much time in the Bronx. And
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  Speaker 8: when he was questioned by the judge later, he said, oh, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 8: I wasn't telling the truth when I said that. So
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  Speaker 8: he flipped back and forth on his answers pretty frequently,
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  Speaker 8: and he did admit in his initial questioning that he
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  Speaker 8: was a fan of nineties hip hop. So the judge
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  Speaker 8: was led to believe that this juror had a reason
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  Speaker 8: to want to stay on this jury, and the issue
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  Speaker 8: of his actual residence became lesser to the fact that
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  Speaker 8: he lied about it multiple times.
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  Speaker 11: The court learned today that Juror number six was less
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  Speaker 11: than truthful about his address when the jury was impaneled.
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  Speaker 11: While the juror answered truthfully that he lived in the
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  Speaker 11: Bronx on his original questionnaire, in the last two weeks
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  Speaker 11: he moved out of the court jurisdiction. The juror brought
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  Speaker 11: up his move in friendly conversation with court staff, but
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  Speaker 11: they later realized the possible ramifications of his admission and
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  Speaker 11: reported it. Judge initially believed the juror may have had
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  Speaker 11: a perfectly innocent explanation for the lapse in judgment, but
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  Speaker 11: at the end of the cour day ultimately decided to
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  Speaker 11: dismiss the juror.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us now outside the Monahan Courthouse in downtown Manhattan.
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  Speaker 2: Lauren Conlin, star of Pop Crime TV, on YouTube, Lauren,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us, Lauren. I understand that
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  Speaker 2: there was so much baby oil at a free cough.
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  Speaker 2: We have already heard about two slip and falls.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Lauren.
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  Speaker 12: Jonathan Perez is Shawn Combs's fourth assistant to take the
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  Speaker 12: stand with Community. Perez testifies that he worked directly under
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  Speaker 12: Christina Koram, who instructed him on setting up King Knights,
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  Speaker 12: which korm described as Combs's private time with a woman.
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  Speaker 1: Perez says the task was usually left.
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  Speaker 12: To the Knight's staff, and he only set up for
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  Speaker 12: about five of these nights. Perez even had to purchase
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  Speaker 12: lingerie for Jane. For the king Knights, Perees says he
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  Speaker 12: cleaned up the messy rooms afterward, and they were often
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  Speaker 12: covered in oil. Replying to Korum about how a cleanup
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  Speaker 12: was going, Perez texted, slipped and fell twice already. Perez
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  Speaker 12: says Combs also sent him to pick up drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, objection, ew what happened? The guys had two slip
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  Speaker 2: and falls in all the oil.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, Unfortunately, that is what we saw in evidence when
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  Speaker 13: we saw these text messages between Christina Korum and Jonathan Perez,
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  Speaker 13: one of Ditty's assistants. We also saw a text message
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  Speaker 13: from Christina Korum to Jane actually stating that.
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  Speaker 14: The rooms that she and Ditty would use there always
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  Speaker 14: would be extra damage charges because they were all white
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  Speaker 14: and more oil filled than normal.
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  Speaker 13: So it's been a bit stomach turning.
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  Speaker 3: Nancy.
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  Speaker 2: Joining us now outside the Monahan Courthouse is Tasa Tails. Tisa,
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  Speaker 2: I understand that Sean Combs has been First of all,
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  Speaker 2: he tried the Bible, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then I guess this. Lawyers told him that's not a
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  Speaker 1: good idea. You need to stop that right now. Reading
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  Speaker 1: the Bible in front of the jury. Now, if he
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  Speaker 1: had any.
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  Speaker 2: History of ever going to church or reading the Bible
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  Speaker 2: in the past, it might not.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Have been a bad move. But using the Bible.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: As a prop, I'm surprised he wasn't.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Struck by a bolt of lightning. That said. Now he's
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: got a new book he's bringing into court, The Magic
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of Believing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Now, if I'm right, that's all about manifesting your truth,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: like manifesting a not guilty.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Is this real?
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: It is actually real? He has some sort of manifestation book.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: But again, well each week at this point, I think
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: he's going to bring in a Guide to the Dark
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: Arts from Hogwarts. If we let him keep going, he
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: is sliding down the walls. And the thing is he
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: keeps trying to bring.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: In these props to me.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: The Bible perfect prop for him. Okay, like you said
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: about to have thunder and lightening in the courtroom. Now
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: he's all about manifesting. He's trying to remind us of
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: the brain marching he gave the nation for the last
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: ten years and bring that in but at this point
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: it's turned into a joke, which makes me believe how
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: much is art is a legal team actually monitoring social
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: media because this is turned into a joke again, what
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: is he going to bring in? What is he going
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: to bring in next? How to make friends and win enemies?
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, no one really knows what's going on. So
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: again Diddy is trying his best to turn this into
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: a circus. But the judge has a firm hold on
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: the courtroom and he's letting it know this is going
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: to be above board. So he's struggling. He's definitely struggling.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Sean Combs in the courtroom manifesting I'm not guilty verdict.
• 19:44
  Speaker 15: Listen is Sean did he Combs trying to manifest and
• 19:47
  Speaker 15: not guilty verdict? The music mogul has been spotted carrying
• 19:50
  Speaker 15: a self help book, The Magic of Believing, back and
• 19:53
  Speaker 15: forth to court. Legal experts say it isn't uncommon for
• 19:56
  Speaker 15: defendants to turn to some sort of coping mechanism during
• 19:59
  Speaker 15: lengthy and streng ressful trials, and Colmb's Book of Choice
• 20:02
  Speaker 15: is used by many for mental fortitude in challenging situations.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
• 20:18
  Speaker 15: Legal experts say it isn't uncommon for defendants to turn
• 20:21
  Speaker 15: to some sort of coping mechanism during lengthy and stressful trials,
• 20:25
  Speaker 15: and Colmb's Book of Choice is used by many for
• 20:27
  Speaker 15: mental fortitude in challenging situations.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany manifesting for those of us that aren't really
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: familiar with that, could you explain what it is? Is
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: it like, oh, wish it and it comes true, like
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I dream of Genie?
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Manifesting is this idea that if you form a thought
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: in your mind, you can materialize it in the environment.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: So let's say you want to be an actress. You meditate,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: and you imagine yourself in front of the camera being happy, enjoying, being,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: you know, getting your next oscar, and that if you
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: can sum it up enough feelings about that event, then
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: you can rearrange sort of what's going on in the
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: environment to make that event happen. I mean, you know
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: whether or not this is true?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Okay? So p did he controls you actually just say
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: whether or not this is true?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Whether did you say that? Because I think you did?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Whether it's not true? How about going.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: To school and getting a job to advance your goal.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: What about what?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, So you don't tell your clients athletes sit there
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and wish it and it will happen.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So, just like p did, he tries to
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: control his victims. I think he's trying to control God.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's like he's trying to go to the universe.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: His wishes meant Bethany, Please, unless we really need to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: drag God into this, let's please leave him her out
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: of it. Just first of all, you invaded the question.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Do you tell your clients to manifest?
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I do not, but many of my Beverly Hills clients
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: come in with a goal. They're trying to manifest, so
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: I try to turn it into real life, you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: actualization meeting acting on their own behalf to reach the goal.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, now you're losing me. You're totally losing me in
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: all the words or lot of words. Okay, thank goodness.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: You don't tell your clients to manifest?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw joining me founder director Lyn's Warriors, a nonprofit which.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Means a lot. She's not in it for the money.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Dedicated to ending sex exploitation and trafficking of women and girls.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I bet they wish the victims.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: That they could manifest this thing never happened, that they
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: were not raped according to the state they were and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: video and then blackmailed with the videos.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I left out the drugging part and drugged.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Nancy, Well, I have news for everybody because I
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: manifest with victims and survivors of sex trafficking, rape abuse.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: I actually tell them, think positive thoughts, stay in this
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: lane with positivity, think how.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: You want it to look. So I'm manifesting left and
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: right all over New York City and across our country.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: You know what we're losing sight of while all this
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: is going on, And it's very important what's happening week six,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: But you know what we're not talking about alleged victims,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: alleged survivors of this smug thug, Triple D Dirty Diddy,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: degenerate running amok in my hometown for years. It's very
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: concerning when we hear from TISA. You know that he
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: comes in so positive into the courtroom and all of
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: this attention is being put on that what does he know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: because I'll tell you what, he for decades in New
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: York City has been getting away with everything. It's very
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: concerning to me that this is happening. What about we're
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: not talking at all about these alleged victims survived.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Where are more of them?
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: I want to see more of them on the stand.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: There's lots of people complicit here. Why aren't we hearing
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: from them? So it remains to be seen. But I
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: leave you with this, Yes, with anybody who's been attacked
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: or is down in the dumps, is depressed, is even suicidal.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: I actually tell them manifest positive thoughts, stay positive, stay
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: a warrior. And I use that technique all the time,
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: and you know what they get back to me. It
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: seems to always help them a little bit. So that's
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: a little bit positivity there. But as far as Triple
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: D Dirty Diddy degenerate, we don't care at all about
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: him and his manifestations and his Bibles. It's disgusting and
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: he's going down.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Let me speak to someone in law enforcement that maybe
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I can understand what they're saying.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Jonathan gilliam is joining me, former Navy seal, let's start
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: FBI Special agent, Federal Air Marshall and police officer, author
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: of Sheep Know More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Star Off the Experts podcast Jonathan Gilliam. Jonathan, I threw
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: that question to land Shaw. I got an answer, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it was an evasive You can go ahead and cut
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: her mic right now. It was an evasive answer, Jonathan,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: because I asked about seawan Combe's manifesting a not guilty verdict,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and she responded that she has crime victims manifest positivity.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Now manifesting positivity, that's stay positive. I'm all for that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I'm all for expecting the best outcome, absolutely expecting it
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and trying to make it happen. Work to make it happen,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: but be prepared if it doesn't happen. Having a positive
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: attitude is very different from manifesting a jury verdict or
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: manifesting conjuring up anything. The world doesn't work that way,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Gilliam. It boils down to do the jurors believe
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the state's witnesses. The states witnesses all under went severe
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: cross examination. I'd like to hear you, out of all
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: your years of taking cases to juries, tell me if
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you think the state has corroborated the victims well enough
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: so far.
• 26:14
  Speaker 16: I don't think so. I'll tell you something, Nancy, from
• 26:17
  Speaker 16: the very beginning of this and going back and looking
• 26:20
  Speaker 16: at the way this case has gone forward. I think
• 26:24
  Speaker 16: that when you look at what the prosecution is trying
• 26:28
  Speaker 16: to prove, and you look at how the witnesses come
• 26:30
  Speaker 16: in and what they've testified to, it doesn't meet so
• 26:34
  Speaker 16: far the threshold on a lot of the charges that
• 26:37
  Speaker 16: they've brought up. And then you need to specific well
• 26:42
  Speaker 16: I'm getting to when you look at the jury you
• 26:45
  Speaker 16: made a lot.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Of the charges have not been proven well, racketeering for instance,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: so far we've not seen really any evidence of racketeering
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: beyond Sean Didty Coombs himself running a very hostile work
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: environment and engage with prostitutes? Okay, hold on, Jonathan, have
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: you been covering the testimony because we now have the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: fourth assistant be given immunity for completing illegal acts at
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the behest of Sean comes. So when your employees are
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: told by you to perform criminal acts to further a crime,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that is rico for witnesses so far given immunity. One
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: obtained illegal drugs, One went with a gun to hunt
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: down Shug Night for a proposed attack on night. Others
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: had transportation plans to bring in sex workers for an
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: illegal act. Another accountant described sending an extortion email, and
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: there's much much more. A bodyguard went and physically dragg
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: casti Ventura back for a free cough. A bribe was
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: conducted at the behest of Shawn Comes. Those are crimes,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and they further a criminal act. So explain to me
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: how that is not racketeering.
• 28:25
  Speaker 16: Well, so, usually typically when we look at the mafia
• 28:28
  Speaker 16: and how racketeering has been used, it's by people who
• 28:30
  Speaker 16: are not coerced into doing these things. And from what
• 28:33
  Speaker 16: we've seen to underline, motivation of most of these people
• 28:38
  Speaker 16: is that they were coerced. They had pressure on them,
• 28:41
  Speaker 16: they thought they would be ruined or fired, and so
• 28:44
  Speaker 16: when they're making a tremendous amount of money, that pressure
• 28:47
  Speaker 16: is on you also through the abuse. So I'm not
• 28:50
  Speaker 16: saying that the reason I even brought that up was
• 28:53
  Speaker 16: because when you hear the term manifestation that this is
• 28:56
  Speaker 16: going on, and that continuously gets pushed out with these
• 28:59
  Speaker 16: other things that you see in the media. Now you
• 29:02
  Speaker 16: start to see that maya as an investigator, not an attorney.
• 29:06
  Speaker 16: As an investigator, I start looking at this, and when
• 29:08
  Speaker 16: these jurors start having issues, I now start asking the
• 29:12
  Speaker 16: question of was there a game being played at the
• 29:15
  Speaker 16: beginning of this to get jurors in there that may
• 29:18
  Speaker 16: or may not have an issue.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: You're like, you're may king.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Let me just say a stinky popore because you have
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: now thrown in a lot of issues to some point.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: My question to you is why do you say racketeering
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: has not been proven?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And you said, because it's.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Usually used for the mob. You are familiar, I assume
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: with the rampart r robert A Alpha M Mother p
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: pony a Alpha R Robert T Toy rampart scandal where
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the lapd we're prosecuted for RICO for why spread corruption
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: because the head care had the minions carry it out.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So you don't have to be the mob to be
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the subject of a Rico prosecution, Right, And that's just say, well,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: they're not the mob.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: That's not an excuse.
• 30:14
  Speaker 16: No, no. But what I'm saying, Nancy is I'm trying
• 30:17
  Speaker 16: to show the totalia circumstances of how the coercion was
• 30:21
  Speaker 16: typically used to get people to do things that were
• 30:24
  Speaker 16: violent or things that were nefarious in nature, such as
• 30:28
  Speaker 16: moving prostitutes. Right, we're paid, how that relates to this
• 30:31
  Speaker 16: pay the coercion coming in with the Bible, playing these
• 30:35
  Speaker 16: pressure games in front of the jurors.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with rica. That's theatrics. I agree,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: it's a game.
• 30:41
  Speaker 13: You are the crack pipe.
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: That's my new name for you, crackpipe. He looked like
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: he was strung out, looked like a crackhead, great gums,
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: shaky hands, disgusting and the cats.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I love you, baby, You're just you're my crack pipe.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: My husband called me a crack pipe.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: It is up Dateline Special.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: We are at the Monahan Federal Courthouse bringing you the
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: latest of today in the case against Seawan Comebs aka Diddy.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Straight out to Sydney Sumner. There was a surprise guest
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: gracing the courtroom.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Guess who listen.
• 31:28
  Speaker 15: I spent like all the money for a commercial.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: On these new teeth once again. I had to shoot
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: it on the iPhone.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Go to easy dot com.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: That from the official Easy page.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, Sidney Sumner, what does Kanye and his million dollar
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: titanium teeth drool have to do with Sean Combs?
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: Well, Nancy, Kanye West has been one of the only
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: public supporters of Diddy throughout this thing, and it's interesting
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: because they weren't really close before this. Sean Kalm's and
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: Kanye West kind of had a falling out over Kanye's
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: White Lives Matter T shirt line and they haven't really
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: been close since then. But now that Sean Kalms is
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: behind bars, Kanye West has apparently been reaching out to
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: his sons and offering support. And we saw that devolved
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: from pushing Sean Jalons merchandise on his website to selling
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: swastika T shirts on his website in this tirade that
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: kind of unfolded during Super Bowl week.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, let's take a look at the swastika T
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: shirt Brujha.
• 32:47
  Speaker 17: Within an hour of West's Super Bowl ad airing on TV,
• 32:50
  Speaker 17: the only item available in his shop is a twenty
• 32:53
  Speaker 17: dollars short sleeved white T shirt with a swastika on it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 17: The shirt is named HHO one. Many believe the letters
• 33:01
  Speaker 17: stand for Hyle Hitler. Critics and fans alike are absolutely horrified. Shopify,
• 33:07
  Speaker 17: the site's host suspends Yeezy's account within twenty four hours.
• 33:12
  Speaker 17: The site now reading this shop is not available, so.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter on the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Shawncombs trial, Sydney. How is bringing Kanye West to the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: trial helping anything for the defense?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Wait, he did come for the defense, right, The state.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Didn't bring him in as an ambush, did they?
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: No, Nancy. Kanye answered a few reporters as he walked
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: into the courthouse, saying he was just there to support
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: Sean Combs and his children. Kanye sat in an overflow
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: room with Christian Combs for just a few minutes, not
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: even an hour, to just show his support for Sean
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: Combs apparently. But Kanye is a huge fan of drama.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: He created drama nearly everywhere he goes, So a lot
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: of people are feeling like maybe he did this for
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: more selfish reasons than he claimed.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Wow, Dodger Bethany Marshall, can you imagine putting your own
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: financial interest a pecuniary interests before that of your longtime friend.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: So how does it help to bring in a Hitler
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: sympathizer for your case? How does that help anything?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: I guess the saying is there's no such thing as
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: bad publicity. I think Kanye did a flyby, meaning he
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: just wanted to be seen walking into the courtroom being
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: sympathetic towards P Diddy's son, like he's like a paternal
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: figure of some sort, and that he's supporting P Diddy's enterprise.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: In his mind, he may feel that P Diddy is
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: going down and he'll take over his whole market in
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: terms of selling albums or records or whatever. So you know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I think that we have to pick our friends carefully.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I left the term frenemy is when your friend is
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: actually your enemy, and in this case, it's really unsure.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I'm unsure what Kanye West motivations really are.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: By Troy Slayton joining us veneran trial lawyer out of
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: La Troy Slayton. I mean, with friends like this, why
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: would they bring Kanye to court a known Hitler sympathizer.
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: I don't think Ditty's defense team had anything to do
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: with this. I think Kanye did this on his own
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: because he's selling free Diddy merchandise. If I was Ditty's
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: defense team, I'm not calling in Kanye West with his
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: with his swastikas and his hal Hitler merchandise.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: I think Kanye did this absolutely on his own because
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: he's trying to sell merch He's trying to make money
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: off all the free publicity surrounding this trial.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Troy Slayton, it cannot help Sean Combs, not that I
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: want them to be helped, but it can't help Sean
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Combs for Kanye to show up. I don't know if
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the yours even realized what was happening, but it's done.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you very quickly, Troy Slight, I'm going
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to circle back to the chaos in the courtroom surrounding
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: your number six. Okay, and will that be reversible error
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: if there's a conviction, could you explain why, whether he's black, white, purple,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: or green, that juror had to.
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: Go Well, I understand why the judge dismissed them, but
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: I also understand why it's going to be fertile ground
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: for appeal because there's this little thing in this country
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: called the Constitution, and the equal protection clause of the
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: fourteenth Amendment says everybody has to be treated equal. And
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: how that applies to this trial is that you can't
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: dismiss somebody because of their race. You can't. And so
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: if the jurors, I mean, if.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: The prosecutor Slaton.
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: Yes, Nancy, the prosecutors we all exist.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: We all accept that a juror cannot be thrown off
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: or thrown out of the Va Dyer process because of
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: their race. Bats In Vie Kentucky. It's an age old.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Case, right.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: We all know that this jar was placed on the jury.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: He was not deselected because of his race. But Troy,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: he stated, he doesn't live in the jurisdiction.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: He can't be on the jury.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: You can't get wavebody, you can't waive that constitutional right.
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: They didn't even give him a chance to explain, Nancy,
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: they kicked him out. He gave inconsistent answers. At one
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: point he made he said he lived in New Jersey.
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: The other point he said he lived in the Bronx.
• 37:53
  Speaker 10: So it's not clear exactly where he lived or if
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: he moved.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get some clarification very quickly, Sidney Sumner, what
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  Speaker 2: exactly did he say?
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  Speaker 1: Plays school Troy Slayton Nancy.
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  Speaker 8: The judge said that the issue of race could not
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  Speaker 8: outweigh the fact that this juror was possibly lying or
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  Speaker 8: trying to stay on this panel. The juror was very
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  Speaker 8: unclear and whether or not he actually resided in New
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  Speaker 8: Jersey or if he resided in the Bronx full time,
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  Speaker 8: and that inconsistency led the judge to believe that this
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  Speaker 8: juror was not being truthful because he wanted to stay
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  Speaker 8: on the panel, and the juror should not be that
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  Speaker 8: invested in the case unless he had some kind of
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  Speaker 8: bias toward it.
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  Speaker 2: So the judge said, I'm sorry, but his words exactly Sidney.
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  Speaker 1: Where did he say he lived?
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  Speaker 9: Well?
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  Speaker 8: At first on his jury questionnaire, this juror answered that
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  Speaker 8: he lived in the Bronx with his aunt. Then in
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: casual conversation with court staff, he was talking about living
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  Speaker 8: in New Journey with his girlfriend and his daughter. So
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  Speaker 8: when it came back again, he told the judge, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 8: I've spent most of my time in the Bronx. So
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  Speaker 8: we have this constant inconsistency of well, you said this,
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  Speaker 8: now you said that, now you said this again. So
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  Speaker 8: I don't understand what is the truth here, And at
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: that point he just could not be trusted.
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  Speaker 2: So he gave conflicting answers about where he lived and
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  Speaker 2: isn't it true? Any summer he was given the opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to explain himself, he was called into questioning by the
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  Speaker 2: judge with the lawyers present.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, that's absolutely correct. So he was given a chance
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  Speaker 8: to explain himself and say, you know, I just didn't
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  Speaker 8: think about what I was saying when I answered this
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  Speaker 8: jury questionnaire. And no, he tried to correct himself, making
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: that the third inconsistent statement that he made to the court.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Troy's Latin joining me veteran trial lawyer out of
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  Speaker 2: the LA jurisdiction. Troy, under our constitution, at tri you
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  Speaker 2: are not allowed to waive, to waive constitutional rights such
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  Speaker 2: as a right to a lawyer, Okay, a right to
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  Speaker 2: cross examination, all of these. Under the sixth Amendment, you
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  Speaker 2: cannot waive a jury of your peers unless you go
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  Speaker 2: with the bench trial. So here, even if even if
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the state had gone along with it, that the defense
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to keep this JURRR, I think because he is
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: a Shawancomb's empathizer.
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  Speaker 1: On appeal, that is a reversible error.
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  Speaker 2: A new set of lawyers is explained at the top
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  Speaker 2: of our show.
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  Speaker 1: A new set of appellate lawyers will say, well, you.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Can't waive the right to gurrs from your jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 1: That's reversible on appeal, Troy.
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  Speaker 10: That's why Didy's attorneys were so upset they thought that
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  Speaker 10: this person was a sympathetic but potentially for them instead
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  Speaker 10: of bringing it was an African American UH juror, and
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  Speaker 10: they're bringing in a juror, a Caucasian jur from Westchester
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  Speaker 10: with a much more conservative area of New York. This
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: person was a corrections officer. The person who was dismissed
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: was a corrections officer who said he enjoyed hip hop
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: and rapped from the early nineties and that he.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoyed that he was a constitution nothing.
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  Speaker 10: It has to do with whether or not the jurors
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: being dismissed because of a discriminatory because of a discriminatory possible.
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  Speaker 2: Please conflicting answers about where he lived. You cannot have
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: jurors that do not land in jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 10: It's an immediate Just because there's a conflict doesn't mean
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  Speaker 10: that he was lying. Just because he said one thing
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  Speaker 10: to court staff not under oath, that doesn't mean that
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: he was lying when he was under oath during the
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: vas deer process or when he was speaking to the court.
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  Speaker 2: We remember an American here Z Trooper Frankie Williams, New
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Jersey State Police, just thirty one killed in a line
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  Speaker 2: of duty, survived by grieving wife Kimberly and parents Victoria
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  Speaker 2: and Robert.
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  Speaker 1: American hero Trooper Frankie Williams. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,