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Ep. 51 - The Fast Lane with McKenzie Calloway · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Beyond the Path.
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  Speaker 1: Today we have women's track and field Mackenzie Callaway. She
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  Speaker 1: recently joined this hop ten list was the time of
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  Speaker 1: twenty three point two three and the women's two hundred meter.
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  Speaker 1: She's a part of the Clemson women's four by one
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  Speaker 1: hundred relay team that ran forty three point one four seconds,
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  Speaker 1: which was a school record and qualified for the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: East Region. She is also on the twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: Outdoor All acc Academic Team.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome Mackenzie.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having you. So glad to have that honor.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is so fun. We were just
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  Speaker 4: having a conversation before this episode started and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: we need to save every single week. So good this
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  Speaker 4: conversation for the episode, McKenzie, start off with where you
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  Speaker 4: grew up. You grew up in Covington, Georgia. Tell me
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  Speaker 4: what that was like.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so I'm from Covington, Georgia. I am the last child.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the only girl, two of three older brothers, the baby, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: the baby and the only girl. So you know what
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  Speaker 3: that means? Yea, Let everyone tell me. Yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: swell and I'm not spoiled. I know you can't help it,
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  Speaker 3: but yes, I got my mom and dad. They've been
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  Speaker 3: married for about thirty two years.
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  Speaker 4: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, like I said, just grew up in Covington. It's
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  Speaker 3: a small town in Georgia, but it's not that far
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  Speaker 3: from the city. So I always go around and tell
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  Speaker 3: everybody I'm from Atlanta. I'm from.
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  Speaker 2: Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm from Atlanta. Why not just say, you know?
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's yep.
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  Speaker 4: Do your brothers play any sports too?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they did well. My oldest brother he ran
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  Speaker 3: track for a little bit, but we don't really say
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  Speaker 3: he ran track for real.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't make it.
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  Speaker 4: Try person in your family.
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  Speaker 3: Right technically, but he did a little distance when he
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  Speaker 3: was like in high school to like eight hundred meters.
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  Speaker 3: Second born he played baseball his whole life. And then
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  Speaker 3: Max third born, he played basketball his whole life. And
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  Speaker 3: story is I was waiting to tell y'all we got
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  Speaker 3: on the podcast my entire life. Really, yes, And I
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  Speaker 3: always said, I'm not running track. I takets that serious.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone always but you're fast, You're fast. I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I want to be a dancer. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: a dancer. All I did was dance, dance, dance all
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  Speaker 3: the way up into my senior year. I was the
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  Speaker 3: captain of my dance team. And oh.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, wait, so you started track so late, Like what
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  Speaker 4: made you want to start track from dance?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know because all I was was dance.
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  Speaker 3: My mom always had like this thing where she was like,
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  Speaker 3: she's not gonna run track. She's too girly, she's too girly.
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  Speaker 3: But track is like really girly. If y'all know track,
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  Speaker 3: y'all know it's super girly. You don't think so I
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  Speaker 3: don't know anything you well, like the hair, the nails,
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  Speaker 3: of the makeup, Like boys will literally even be saying
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  Speaker 3: like why do y'all show up these meats to a
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  Speaker 3: makeup on? What do you mean we're gonna be on TV?
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  Speaker 3: Like we have to look good in a race, and
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  Speaker 3: you don't know you got to interview after, especially at
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  Speaker 3: the big meats. So I feel like that's why we
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  Speaker 3: try to be cute, because you know, they say look good,
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  Speaker 3: feel good, run fast. So that's kind of our thing.
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  Speaker 3: Like the nails, like, oh, that is like a big
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  Speaker 3: thing with chaikag, you're just and all that stuff. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know, track is really girly. But probably
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  Speaker 3: growing up I probably did think like you outside it
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  Speaker 3: was sweaty, you know, yeah, but I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: did it for fun in middle school, seventh grade, just
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  Speaker 3: running just because I was the county champ. Everything. Got
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  Speaker 3: to high school, I was like, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: run this, like, I'm really focused on dance for real.
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  Speaker 3: And I got to work out for dance and the
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  Speaker 3: track coach sees me out there running around the track
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, yeah, she needs to be on
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  Speaker 3: my tea and the rest is history. I'm on the
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  Speaker 3: team running at this point.
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  Speaker 2: So that's so cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, were you in competitions.
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  Speaker 3: For dance or were you just Yes, I did competition
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  Speaker 3: all the way up until eighth grade, so I had
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  Speaker 3: to stop when I got to ninth grade. I had
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  Speaker 3: to be done with competition because the high school team
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  Speaker 3: was so demanding for so I had to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: be done competition. But I danced since I was four
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  Speaker 3: years old.
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  Speaker 2: That's so cool. So how did you're a short sprinter? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? So how did you get into that? Like how
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  Speaker 1: did you know like that was the event that you wanted.
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  Speaker 3: To do fast. I don't even know, Like just I
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  Speaker 3: have this picture of me when I was in kindergarten,
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  Speaker 3: like and you know, they put the little books together
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  Speaker 3: and all you see is me. I guess it was
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  Speaker 3: an Easter egg hunt. All you see is me out
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  Speaker 3: front running like.
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  Speaker 6: Track.
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  Speaker 3: It's so funny. But I'll look back at the picture
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  Speaker 3: and laugh and be like I should have known I
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  Speaker 3: was going to run track, Like why am I running
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  Speaker 3: so fast? And this picked just like just ahead of
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  Speaker 3: the whole class. But yeah, honestly, like I said, I
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  Speaker 3: was just running, and like obviously I knew the long
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  Speaker 3: distance thing was not ever going to be me because
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  Speaker 3: I knew that whatever I did, I wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: short and quick. But yeah, and truthfully, freshman year of
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  Speaker 3: high school, I was just running and that was not
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  Speaker 3: really going well. Like I probably was like going to
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  Speaker 3: the mees, just chilling watching the older girls run and
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  Speaker 3: just looking and having fun. Sophomore year was COVID. Junior
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  Speaker 3: year was like really the year where I was like,
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  Speaker 3: hold on, like track is kind of fun, let me
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  Speaker 3: kind of get into it a little bit more. And
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  Speaker 3: so I saw this club team I joined the club team,
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  Speaker 3: and after that, I just start taking off, like getting
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  Speaker 3: scholarships left and right, and I'm like, wait, that's so crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It was so random. It was It almost feels like
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  Speaker 3: it happened overnight, truthfully, and.
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  Speaker 4: It's so crazy to think about you start a sport
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  Speaker 4: your junior year and you can have scarship offers.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I truly feel like that's what I started for real,
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  Speaker 3: because like the other years don't count because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even run or take it serious enough, Like
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  Speaker 3: I'm just doing it just to say all these things
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  Speaker 3: that I've done in high school, Like I was a
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  Speaker 3: person who did cheer, dance, flag, football, track, Like I
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  Speaker 3: just wanted to say I was all around, that's what
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  Speaker 3: that was. But track just ended up being the thing
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  Speaker 3: for me. It's crazy how it happened.
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  Speaker 4: So do you love running?
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely love running, like absolutely absolutely. I fell out
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  Speaker 3: of love for it though for my first my freshman
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  Speaker 3: and sophomore year of college, but ever since I've been
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  Speaker 3: in Clemson, absolutely fell back in love with the sport.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people talk about like
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  Speaker 4: running marathons or like just running for health reasons or anything.
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  Speaker 4: I can't get myself to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I really wish I like to run.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I don't. I really don't. Like I dread it,
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  Speaker 3: Like it sounds crazy, like like you love the results, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but the things you get from it, like you don't
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  Speaker 3: take your talent for granted, but truthfully showed about it.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, I really gotta run today, Like why did
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  Speaker 3: I pick this?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like track practices are really demanding as well.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 5: Your whole training is other teams conditioning. Yeah, like another
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  Speaker 5: team's worst day is.
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  Speaker 4: You know, what's a bad day when we have to run?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: That is true.
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  Speaker 4: And you guys do stadiums, so.
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  Speaker 3: That's fall season. Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 4: We definitely explain to me what that is.
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  Speaker 3: That's not even the worst. What is the worst?
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  Speaker 4: It seems like the worst.
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  Speaker 3: I had this thing called jump runs. Y'all know, my
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  Speaker 3: team know jump runs. It is the worst. But stadiums.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really like it for real last year, but
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  Speaker 3: this year got better because we moved over to the
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  Speaker 3: other side of the stadium, so it was a little
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  Speaker 3: bit easier. It was kind of hard to run with
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  Speaker 3: the rail in the middle. I feel like that makes
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  Speaker 3: it harder. But we moved over to the side that's
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  Speaker 3: just stairs, so just kind of like but track is
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  Speaker 3: so mental. I tell y' all this, Like last year,
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  Speaker 3: I was in the way of myself, just self sabotage
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  Speaker 3: and not letting like, you know, God like run through me,
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  Speaker 3: like just trying to be me, me, me, me, and
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  Speaker 3: not letting God do his thing. And so I feel
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  Speaker 3: like that's what really got me. But now I just
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  Speaker 3: I let go and like I know, it's my last year.
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  Speaker 3: I have nothing to lose and everything to gain, and
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  Speaker 3: just trying to just remind myself that and be confident,
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  Speaker 3: get back into my old self. And I definitely feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's happening. You know when you see the times
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  Speaker 3: you're like, now this is me, Like you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Like this is you. Like, but before, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was rough. It was definitely rough. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely have just seen videos of people after your practices,
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  Speaker 4: just like on the floor and like drinking like a
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  Speaker 4: red gatoraytor or something like refeeling rehydrating. It seems like
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  Speaker 4: the worst thing ever, but it.
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  Speaker 3: Can be like you really just have to tell yourself, like,
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  Speaker 3: let's stack these days, like especially the days that hurt,
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  Speaker 3: like you're saying, I tell myself, like, these are the
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  Speaker 3: days you deposit, you deposit, deposit, and then when you
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  Speaker 3: go to the meat, you can get it, take it
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  Speaker 3: out of the bank. Mm hm, whatever you do. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like the track is really that sport. However you
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  Speaker 3: perform in practice is the same way's gona show up
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  Speaker 3: at the meat. I'm telling you it is. If you're
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  Speaker 3: believe in yourself in practice, it should be muscle memory
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  Speaker 3: at the mit. Yeah, like you just gonna wake up
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  Speaker 3: and go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you transferred from Mississippi State and SEC squ to
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  Speaker 4: an ACC school. Tell me a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 3: Two completely different worlds, two completely yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like SEC you got to be ready for that,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's one of the toughest conferences for sure. But
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  Speaker 3: man I got my yo. I got beat bad, like real.
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  Speaker 3: I mean like it's humbling for sure. Like it's humbling
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  Speaker 3: definitely for sure when you not ready for it.
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  Speaker 6: Too.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of went to a school that like didn't
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  Speaker 3: really prepare me enough. I feel like it too, Like
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  Speaker 3: I still had a lot more developing, you know. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I was running off of pure talent, like
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  Speaker 3: you know the difference between like you know, like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they already got it to like when you develop them,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna be good. So that's kind of more how
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  Speaker 3: I was, I feel like, And so when you're not
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  Speaker 3: ready for that level, it can it can do do
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  Speaker 3: something to you, for sure. It can really get.
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  Speaker 4: You for sure what made you want to go there?
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  Speaker 3: The money, big name sec Like I'm like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking that confidence like you start running fast, you like,
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  Speaker 3: oh yes, I can handle this, Like I can do
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  Speaker 3: this this, you know what I mean. I'm not getting
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  Speaker 3: all the ships from here for no reason, like I'm
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  Speaker 3: ready for this level. And so, but like I said,
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  Speaker 3: it's not always about that, like getting so caught up
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  Speaker 3: in the big names and you know, even the money
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that can't buy happiness. It's truly about
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  Speaker 3: who believes in you. Like you ever have that first
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  Speaker 3: conversation with that coach and you know, like they're not
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  Speaker 3: just selling me a dream. This coach truly, truly, truly
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  Speaker 3: wants the best for me. You separate the difference and
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  Speaker 3: being older and mature now and going through the things
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  Speaker 3: that I went through. You know now you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. You try to you know, tell the youth
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  Speaker 3: about that, like, don't get caught up in it, because
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  Speaker 3: we all see it, like why you're doing this big school?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I felt to that. I definitely felt victim
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  Speaker 3: to that. But I truthfully do feel like it's all
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  Speaker 3: about like who really has your best entrance? Like seriously,
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  Speaker 3: So that's one thing I can say, do not get
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  Speaker 3: caught up in that, please.
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  Speaker 5: So then what was the process like when you entered
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  Speaker 5: the transfer portal and then you were getting recruited by
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  Speaker 5: Clemson and now you're here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a funny story. It's a really good story.
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  Speaker 3: Me and my coach got two point of views. Let
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  Speaker 3: him tell it, Let him tell it. His story's hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: But this is the real story, my story. But so
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  Speaker 3: crazy thing is, Crimson was a real full circle moment
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  Speaker 3: for me. The same coach that recruited me out of
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  Speaker 3: high school, the very first coach is my coach here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, yes, cool. I always knew, like when I
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  Speaker 3: was able to come here, he took another chance on me.
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  Speaker 3: So he's always believed to me. Usually coaches turn their
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  Speaker 3: head and you know, like they don't want nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do with you again. You calling them up like no,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know. I just like had this feeling
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  Speaker 3: like let me just see, like if you would take
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  Speaker 3: me again, like, you know, like I was just going
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  Speaker 3: through what I was going through on misb State. I
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  Speaker 3: called my club coach. He's like, what's up, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I can't stay here. I have to leave. Like it's
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  Speaker 3: just it's not working. I tried for you know, I
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  Speaker 3: tried two years. Freshman year, you're just trying to get going,
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  Speaker 3: like you're not thinking negative, You're trying to be positive,
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  Speaker 3: get you know, get yourself acclimated. Sophomore year, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you start to realize, you start to see things. Everything
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  Speaker 3: is in green, you know, and so yeah, boom the boom.
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  Speaker 3: The end of the year starts to come and I'm like, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can't stay here. I gotta leave. So I call
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  Speaker 3: my club coach and he's like, what's up. What do
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  Speaker 3: you want to do? And I'm like, Coachester just got
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  Speaker 3: a job at Clemson. Please see if he'll take me.
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  Speaker 3: He calls up Coachester and Coachester's like, well, he says,
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  Speaker 3: someone wants to come with you. He was like, can
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  Speaker 3: you guess the athlete? He was like Mackenzie Galloway, and
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, the rest was history. But even when I
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  Speaker 3: had that bad time in that moment, it still seemed
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  Speaker 3: like I just kept going further and further with Track,
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  Speaker 3: and I kind of knew, like, Okay, God really does
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  Speaker 3: have something special waiting for you. Even though it felt
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  Speaker 3: like I couldn't see the light at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the tunnel, I could though still it was still there.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I even made it all the way
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  Speaker 3: to Nationals that year with the four by one at
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  Speaker 3: my school and Coachester was waiting on me to get
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  Speaker 3: done with Tracks. I could sign the papers because you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can't sign until your season's over. So it's just like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I keep seeing you at these meets
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  Speaker 3: where you gonna sign. But yeah, I was just just
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  Speaker 3: so thankful, like I said, like he truly truly believed
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  Speaker 3: in me when no one else believed in me. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, people doubt you, like you think she capable,
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  Speaker 3: you really think questioning it. He never questioned it when
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  Speaker 3: I didn't believe in myself. He believed in me all
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  Speaker 3: the time. It never stopped believing in me. So that's
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  Speaker 3: why I feel like I am where I am today,
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  Speaker 3: Like God put him, you know, in my life for
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  Speaker 3: a reason. For sure.
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  Speaker 5: I've heard so many good things about Coachester and he
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  Speaker 5: was a student athlete.
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  Speaker 3: His name is all over your track school records everything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he definitely did a big one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of sports now is like
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  Speaker 1: very like business, strictly like where's the money, Where's like
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  Speaker 1: the best school or like whatever, but like truly like
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  Speaker 1: if you have a coach who believes and you like
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  Speaker 1: go to that school, like no matter what it is,
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  Speaker 1: like that will be the best school for you to
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  Speaker 1: like overall grow not only just like in your sport,
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  Speaker 1: as like a person too. So like that's cool that
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  Speaker 1: you found that and like had like the transition, because
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like a lot of it is strictly
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  Speaker 1: business a lot, so like very cool that you had that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good when you have a coach who truly
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  Speaker 3: wants to know you, right like outside of athletics, and
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  Speaker 3: they care about what you do after this, like they
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  Speaker 3: truly are preparing you for life after this. It's gonna
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: be harder things than track, Like we say a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the time, like this can't be your identity, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean? So he reminds us off that
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  Speaker 3: all the time all the time. But you know, when
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  Speaker 3: we locked, we locked, you know what I mean. But
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  Speaker 3: when you're done here, like you got to have something,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I just feel like Clemson
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  Speaker 3: is really that place. Like I even said that. I'm like, dang,
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  Speaker 3: like I got to Clemson and like I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I've done so much in a year that I didn't
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: even do in my last school for two years. Like yeah,
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, just like just being more involved,
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: just all those things like you want to do it
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: when you're here, Like I don't know, this atmosphere just
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: fits me better, Like it's more of my personality, outgoing,
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: like kind like all the people here just remind me
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: more of myself too. So just it really truly does
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: feel like home for sure.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true, go ahead.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, what do you think is
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: like the biggest difference like from your freshman year to
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: senior year?
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my god? Maturity? Uh, definitely, maturity and just growing
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: and like you know, being able to like respond to
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: things differently, you know what I mean. You know, when
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: you're young, like that response, you're not always thinking before
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: you act and do things for sure, and like go
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: about things like now you carry yourself a different way,
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And you see in the
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: freshman in the sophomore DNA class, when you see it
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: and you know you try to guide them and lead them,
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: you're like, O, yeah, it was the same way. Get
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: it one day when they're seniors. It's truly cute. But
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: it's so nostalgic too to see it because they're like,
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: I was just an issue, like in time, doesn't even nobody.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: It was fast. Like every time I'm talking to my parents,
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: they're like, remember when you just graduated from high school?
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Remember when you just looked in high school. I'm like
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: me too, Like I feel like it's just flying by,
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Like seriously, it truly is.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned identity, and we talk about that a
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: lot on this podcast, and you have gotten very involved
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: in things. But what are the other pieces of your
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: identity besides track and dominating track? Because that's a piece
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: But what else makes you you? What else makes me meet?
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Giving back to my community? That is a big thing
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: for me. I love love love, so my major psychology,
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: so I'm big on like mental health and wellness and
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: all those kind of things, So like I truly feel
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: like I always try to tap into that because from
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: my personal experiences, like yeah, that hasn't been easy, like
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: you know, even not just being an athlete, but just
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: like everything, like just in life, you know what I mean.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: And so truly, just like the mental health, like it's
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: a big thing for me, and even just trying to
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: help younger kids, like I have a pall power and
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: like that is like a big thing to me. Like
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I was telling Ashley, I'm like I don't want to
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: be in her life just for now. I want to
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: be in her life forever, you know what I mean,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: Like be that person someone can always lean on, you know,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: like when they can't call their family or their friends,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: they can call you. Yeah, you don't judge. So I
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: feel like that's just a big thing that's always been me.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Everyone who knows me knows, Like for my friend group,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: I'm the one that everyone comes to with their problems,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Like mind you, I have problems to you guys, but truthfully,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: they feel so safe to come to me. Like I
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: noticed that too, Like because I was saying that to
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: my friend, I'm like, dang, I'm starting to realize everyone
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: just feels so comfortable coming to me with stuff, and
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, I guess they think I want judge,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Like it could be the most randomst stuff like can
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I call you? Can Zee? This happen to me. I'm like, dang,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: you trust me like that, Like, but I love it,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: like I truly love it, Like I don't judge it
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: at all, but I do. It makes me think, like dang,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Like maybe this is my purpose, this is my calling
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: to just always be there and help up. Like I
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: really like.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: That, Mackenzie. Every time I see you, every time I
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: run into you, you just have the brightest smile and
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: you give me a hug and it makes me feel
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: so warm and welcomed and like like I know you,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: you know, like I think this is a huge part
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: of your personality. You are this type of person Like
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know you granted, like as well as your
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: track friends may know you. But every time I see you,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: like it just makes me feel so happy, Like I
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: think you are that type of person. And you're saying like,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, like my pop pal, I don't want
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: to leave them. They probably feel the same way.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Yeah, super cool that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: You're able to have that like lasting impact on people.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's such a great quality.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and too with like freshman sophomores like to have
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: that senior to like look up too. I think it's truly,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: like really important because like if I was a freshman,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: like I had that what.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: All the time, Like if I had that, you know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: things gonna be different for sure.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah that is cool.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Does that impact what you want to do after your track?
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So my future plans is to go to ABS
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: in school. Yeah, acelerated Bachelors of Science and nursing and
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: hopefully become a psychiatric nurse.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I can see that for you.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. You also have an intern you pick internship
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: this semester with the nutrition. Tell me a little bit
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the nutrition. I decided to do that because
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: with the ABS and you still have to have those
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: nutrition courses, you know what I mean, that's important. So
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, why not, you know, have this to
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: add to my resume as well and shown that I've had,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you know, some work with nutrition, because I did have
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: two internships before that and they were both nursing. So
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is perfect. Think my last
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: one nutrition. Yeah, so it's pretty fun. You know what.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: It's literally our facility. So I'm like, oh my god,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I know the ins and out place. This is perfect.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I've always here, I don't got to go anywhere extra.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: You know, Kaylee's super sweet and flexible. It just works perfect,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I just love that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, you've been here for two years, not even,
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: and you've done three internships, You've had a Paul palum
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: mentor the whole time, You've obviously already made an impact
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: with your team that they trust you and want to
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: come to you. Like, what a cool story that you
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: just came in and made an impact and took advantage
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: of the resources that comes in has to offer.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing, but god, it comes down has so many
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: resources offer, like and it's like they're like you don't
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: even have to like do too much. I feel like
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: everyone is all and so involved in stuff, like everyone
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: around you that it helps you get involved in stuff,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: like your teammates with the people Hey it comes to
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: this sag me. Hey, like you just like do it
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: because like your teammates like, let's just go, let's just
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: have fun. Like my team, we're so close. Like when
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I say, we're so close. It's like we can't do
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: anything without each other. It's so funny. But we don't
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: get tired of each other. Like we're literally a family.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: And I didn't have that feeling before at my last school.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: So I'm just like it just feels different, like you
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: just like these people are people who like you invite
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: them to your wedding, Like you invite them, like they'll
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: meet your kids. Like that's how close we are. Like
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I truly truly love my team so much.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: That's so crazy because Track is a huge team. Yes,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: and groups, right, there are so many different people. Are
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: you able to like become friends with every single one
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: of them?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, you definitely can't be everybody. I see that. You know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I speak like we speak, we laugh, we cool. I
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: mean you're closer than some than others, for sure. I
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: can say Sprintston Jumps is like super close. Like we
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: are like a tight knit group. We do everything together.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: We just had Sunday dinner this like we just do it.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Shout out on to you. Yes, we just do a
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: bunch of stuff together, especially when we travel. Like it's
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: like I said, we can't breathe without each other, like
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: truly it's just you want it to be.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like when you have like more cohesion
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: with that's how you do It's exactly.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I truly feel that way. The chemstry is important because
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: like even for relays, you know, you can't like if
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: you don't have good chemistry, one, how are you gonna
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: trust that they're gonna get you the baton? Like you
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: don't trust that, you know what I mean. I feel
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: like for our forball one, that's how we got the
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: school record. Like chemistry, we're like tight knit. We trust
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: each other. We know this person's gonna do their job
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: no matter what, They're gonna put the team first, you
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, even if they got something going
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: on with themselves, they're always gonna step up. And so
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: you don't even think twice, Like and I know she's
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: gonna give me the baton. I know I'm gonna get
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: it to where like about any means necessary, and so
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: like that's just kind of how it goes, like it
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: just flows like it's natural.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you hear that perspective a lot
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: from track or individuals.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah you don't. I'm telling you don't. Because like my
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: last school, like girls didn't hate on each other, like
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you don't want to see the next person win, like
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: all of that. Like, and it's crazy because my teammate
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: just said this to me. She's like, kinzo, like after
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: my meet and you know, it was it was a
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: pretty good meat like it so overwhelming. I'm still like
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: in all of it, but I don't know why, because
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: you know, when you work hard, you should expect those things.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: But she literally was like you're so deserving, like you're
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: always there for everyone in their moments and this is
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: finally your moment. I didn't even like process it when
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: she said, and I'm like, she's gonna make me tear up. Stop,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: but like, you know, everyone has their moment, and you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: like I do feel like I'm always that person that's
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: dear for people in their big moments, just always being
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: so supportive, genuinely just just so happy to see people win.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: And so it felt different and cool when it was
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: like my time to shine, I was like, oh, shoot,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: like this is real, this is happening.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I love that because when you do things the right
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: way and you stack the days and you put in
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: the deposits in all the areas, it does usually pan out.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, all this work can't go in vain,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: God please.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, how do you like approach those situations like mentally,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: not even just like inter relay, but like if you're
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: running individually, Like how do you mentally prepare for that?
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: So that's a really good question. I went about things
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: really differently this year because, like I was telling you guys,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: like it's my last year, Like I just want to,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you know, make my mark. Like I feel like everything
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: that I've done in my life, I've made my mark
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: except for track for real, and I just couldn't be
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: done with the sport in that way without doing what
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Kinzoe always does, like step up, do your think, like
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: show people who you are, you know what I mean,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: show them who you are, you were, your last name
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: on your back, show what a calaway is. And so
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I feel like I just had to come in with
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: a whole different mindset from day one, Like the very
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: first day of fault training, I knew like, nah, I'm
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: gonna do my big one this year for sure. And so,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: like like I said, I started meeting with my therapist
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: shout out doctor e Lover, I mean my therapist once
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: a week like I'm telling y'all it make or break me,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: like I'm always coming in there with something like, but
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: she truly truly helps me, like and it's not just
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: about track, like you have to talk about all things
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: like and she reminds me that these things aren't good
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: or bad, like this is just you and even some
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: things that you might not like, like the same way
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: you learn them, you can unlearn them, like, so she
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: really really really helps me, Like she helps me calm down,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: she helps me change, like my word choice of things
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: when I'm going into meets. Instead of saying I need
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: to do this, say you can do this because you've
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: done it in practice. Why are you putting so much
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: pressure on yourself? And I feel like that's what I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: said about the self sabotaging thing I would do before,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Like I have the talent, it's there, Mackenzie, you have it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Stop going in there saying do any need, Just go
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: in there and do what you do in practice, Like
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you do great in practice. You can do great at
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: the meat and even if things go good, bad or indifferent,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: you still Mackenzie Galloway no matter what. So that's what
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to tell myself, and it's been working
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: and I'm just like, God, just just live through me.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: When people see me, I want them to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Now back to the show.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Besides relays and things like that, track is a very
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: individualistic sport. Is there ever, like too much pressure that
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: you sometimes put on yourself and like get in a
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: mental headspace? How do you get out of that?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I totally agree you can do that sometimes.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: So like how was saying them before, Like it's a
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: different kind of pressure, Like sometimes you have that pressure
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: where like previously, like before was kind of like I
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: need to run fast, I need to do this, I
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: need to do that, and then once you do is
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: that's a different kind of pressure that it comes with it,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and now.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: You have to live up to that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Now you have to live up to that, and you
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: know outside noise like Okay, is she gonna do it again?
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Is she gonna keep rising to the occasion. Is she gonna,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: you know, keep running fast? And so like, it's a
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: different type of pressure. And I always said that whenever
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: God allows me to, you know, run fast and run
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: when I'm capable of, he wants me to be ready
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: for that kind of pressure. And I was just talking
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: to my therapists about it last week. I was like,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I think I'm ready for this now, Like I feel ready.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I feel like I know how to take on this
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: kind of pressure a little bit differently than I would
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: the other pressure where I was like like feeling like, oh,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing my part, I'm not doing what I
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: know I'm capable of. Like I'm ready for this type
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: of pressure, if that makes sense. So yeah, it's definitely
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: a different one though.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: And then becoming a nurse too whereon in life, that's
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: another sort of pressure that you're gonna have to deal
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: with as well. How do you think you're going to
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: balance that?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, that one's gonna be one for sure,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: but just you know learning like yeah, I mean you're
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: gonna make mistakes. You're human, like, so just trying to
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you know, cause I'm I'm type A, she says my therapist.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I know I'm type I get it good for my mom.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely type. But just like because you know, sometimes
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you're a perfectionist, Like, yeah, I'm trying to get out
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: of that, like that's what she says. I am, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: think that. I don't even think that, but she thinks that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But just you know, learning and just giving yourself grace,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: like like you said, like we're human, like you're gonna
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: make mistakes. So just but just always trying to put
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: my best foot forward. I can't be mad at myself
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: if I know I did my best for sure.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Going back to like what you said about like trackting
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: so individual, do you ever like pay attention to who's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: in your race? Are you more like focused on yourself
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and like what you're doing?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: So I've done both or truly past me would be
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: like looking to see who I'm racing, you know, letting
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: that you know bother you and face you. But now no,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I don't even check the heat sheets anymore. Like I'll
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: just show up and run like cause it doesn't matter
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: when I'm racing, like I'm gonna go get mine. But
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: if you beat me or I win, heat.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Sheets is like heat sheets.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, heat sheets is like the heat you're in
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: and what lane you're in. Okay, I see. So it
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: could be about like five to ten different heats and
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: then lanes one through eight for sixty or one hundred,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and then lanes one through Yeah, always lanes one through
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: eight inside when one through six for you know, the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: two hundred, gotch But yeah, just looking at what lane
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: you're and what heat, and you see who you're going
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: up against, like you know, your names.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Could probably scare are Olympians competing at some of y'all's
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: meets too. Yeah that never phases you.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: No, I'm usually not in the heat with them, but yeah, not,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: it doesn't phase you for real. Like I mean, some
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: people probably be fanning, but I try to get out
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: of that. I used to be like that, you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: as a freshman, because you're like this person, this person,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: like you know, like you can't help it. Like those people.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: That's that's so cool because you had dreams of probably
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: doing that one day, being that one day, and so
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: you know that's that's super dope. But no, I feel
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: like I said, I'm older now, so I guess it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: just a different way you go about it. Now you're locked. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: you're locked.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like once you get to this level, like
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: everyone's like pretty much remotely similar. I like skilled, Yes,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like obviously there's Olympians, which is like insane, but like
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: when you're racing, it's just kind of like, all right.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: We're all here, we're all hearing on me. We're all talented,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: we're all state champions in high school. We're all this
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: in high school, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: we all got the school records at our high school.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Like so it's kind of like the same. Like it's
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: kind of like an even playing field at that point,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Like you have to tell yourself, like, shoot, if you
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: say I'm the best, nobody can beat me, go ahead,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: go do it, you know what I mean? Like, and
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I always say the thing about track is you have
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: to race me on that day. It doesn't matter what
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you did last week, yesterday, Like you got to show
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: up on this day, the final day where it all
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: counts nobody cares about even when it's indoor season. Truthfully,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: no one cares about an indoor champion. They hear about
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: an outdoor champion. That's where the money's at. That's how
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: you go pro, you know what I mean, So all
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: that things goes into play. Like if you ask me
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: would rather win an indoor champion or outdoor, I'm gonna
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: say outdoor for sure, you know what I mean, Because
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: nobody never remembers an indoor champion.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Why is that?
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's just because indoor kind of doesn't matter
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: in a way people say, But I feel like anything
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: you do matter if I do something that matters to me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: But truthfully, because you can't get a pro contract off
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: of an indoor season, Yeah, it to be off an
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: outdoor season. Why it beats me. Yeah, they just have
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: no I guess track has no twenty you know what
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like track is one of those sports for
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: like it's to go pro. It's just not like easier
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: for you know, like it's not like basketball, baseball, football,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you know, track is definitely hard to go pro. So
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: if you go pro and you get that contract, you
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: like that for.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Sure, something that you ever wanted to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Do Yeah, of course definitely. Uh, probably when I was
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: in high school, like started running fast, and so I'm like, oh,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: good to you, and you never know what happened. My
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: dad always says us, She's like, don't sell yourself short.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: But of course I'm, you know, preparing myself for life
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: after college. For sure.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: This may be a silly question, and Mak can go
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: back to what we were talking about before, the different
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: lanes in track one through eight. You said, is there
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: a pro or con to starting in a specific lane?
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I know they're each the same distance. I know that,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: but on TV sometimes it looks different, you know, like
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: sometimes it looks like why are they running faster than
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: lane eight?
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So, do you have a specific one that you like
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: to choose.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Yes, So, if we're indoor and it's the two hundred,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: we're at Clemson's track, I want to be in lane
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: five exactly because whoever's in six, you're getting caught right
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: out of the blacks, and our goal is to go
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: catch you. I like to be the one being chased too.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it doesn't matter because like.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: So you think of it as like a chase.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's interesting. Yeah, as soon as I get
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: out of my goal is to just get you before
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: that stagger even breaks. And so why am I look
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: like that on TV is because it's a stagger. Yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: but it will get even eventually. Unless you know, obviously
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: the person blowing the person out, it'll never get even.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it should get even at some point. We
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: just got to break the stagger and then we're on
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the straightaway to shoot. No lane matters, of course, you
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: want to be in the middle of the track because
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: in the middle is where the action is happening. Usually,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: like if it's a final, they go based off a
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: time and you get put in a certain lane. So
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: if you're in the middle of the track, you have
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the best time for sure. Really, and if you're on
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: lane five or you know six indoor, you have the
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: best time too.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So when you mean like going even, you all end
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: up being in the same lane, yeah, because it starts staggered.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. No, so that would be for like a
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: four hundred, like you have to break and then everyone
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: moves into lane one. But for the event said I run,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I stay in the same lane all the way around, gotcha, Yeah,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I gottat cut in or merging or anything like that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Now, thank God, sorry, I really wanted to ask.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I feel like I fall on my face, so I
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: don't even know. I do have the four by four
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: this weekend, though, so we should be luck run. Do
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: you have to run afore? I had to run two
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: laps around inside? Yay, you're not it so happy?
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Is there a lane that you prefer outdoor.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: For what the two hundred? Yeah? Yeah? So truthfully, four, five, six, seven, eight, Yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I would go with all those lanes honestly, Like, because
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: we were just talking about it, They're like, would you
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: rather be in lane one or eight? Outside? I'm like eight, Like,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I'll just tell myself to get out and no catch me.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: But if I'm at one, I see all these people
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: up ahead of me already before I start. Now, that'll
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: just psych you out. I feel like it definitely is
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: such a mental thing, yea, even like I don't even
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: know why we think like this. It's literally even.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's something no one thinks about watching
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: track too, Like you think like, oh, they have to
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: start at different lanes.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Because they're not like mental too.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is mental seeing a lot of people
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: running faster than you, and that in those scenes above you.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: You're like, oh man, I see in the message it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: sending to your brain literally, Like that's why I said,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: you literally just have to like literally say good things
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: to yourself.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: They always say good things, so I always try to
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: do it myself. Positive, positive, positive always.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: What is the handoff like, because that is so hard
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: right in a relay it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Is, And I this is my first time running that
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: third leg this past year when we got the school record,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: so third leg was challenging. Like third leg is pretty
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: challenging because like you're getting the stick but then you're
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: running into the curve with it and so then you
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: gotta bring it to the person. So it's just a
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: little more tricky. I felt like I'm like, dang, cause
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it's not really like first leg. I feel like first leg,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: you get out, you just run the curve hand the
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: stick off. Second leg is just straight. Then third leg,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I'm getting it into the straight, but then I'm running
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: into the curve with it bringing it back into the
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: straight to fourth leg. So it is a little bit
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: more teenased and difficult. But I feel like once I
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: got it, I got it, like I really got it
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: down pack and I'm like now like I gotta have
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: third leg again this year, but I really I just
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: want to be on the relay period. But I really
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: do hope that I can run third leg again because
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: like everyone always says to me, hey, you ran the
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: heck out of that third leg. Like third leg. Once
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I got it, I got it like I had a downpack. Okay,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I had a lot of struggles at first, but once
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I got it, it was good. Like, but it was
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: definitely tricky. It's not I didn't realize how tricky it was.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: You would think that, like it wouldn't be the way
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: it would be, but it truly is a tricky leg,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: like it really is. Because tracks are made different. All
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: tracks outside are made different, which is really mind blowing
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: now that I'm starting to realize that, like because I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: my god, did I not notice.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: This for real?
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: But they're all made so different. So like if you
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: go to pin relays, like it is so weird. It's
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: like the straight is in the curve. It's just where
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: is that pin relays? Pennsylvania? Okay, yes you pin? Yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: so yeah, but pen is super fun meat too.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I always think about people, like when I'm watching relays
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: in the Olympics, what happened if you drop the baton.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Oh you're done, squal's I mean you can pick it up,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: but like, no, but you've lost so much time if
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: you drop it automatically do cute? Yeah?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Are you allowed to put like special things on your
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: hands to grip it?
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Noue Okay, I don't think you should be doing that. Definitely,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: so like you're cheating. Okay, yes, I.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Know we were talking about this earlier. But is there
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like a favorite place that you like to race up
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: or don't like to race that?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: You know what I told you home? There's nothing like
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: that atmosphere, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, definitely,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I mean outside. What's a good track I like? I mean,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: of course we like Oregon. It's track down USA is fast.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: It's like it's just feels so fast when you're there,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: it feel so fast and bouncy. I like Texas too, Yeah, Longhorns,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: that's a nice track, is fast too.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Truthfully, what do you mean by like the track is fast?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: It's hot? Like that that track like you moving? Okay,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: you moveing? Like when you step on that track, like
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I guess because they're newer tracks like gotcha, and so
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: when you step on it, like you are just like
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: you moving, like you feel like you're just flowing and
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: flow state, Like.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Does the material that they use on the track, like
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: does it have a certain bounce to it? Yes, Okay,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: it just doesn't feel like you know, like it's not
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: like you're running on concrete. Yeah, Like it feels like
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: like you said, bouncy, like I can just like like
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I'm just flowing. I really don't have to do too much,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: like even like you know on pre meat days and shakeouts,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: like you just feel.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Good, like you feel ready to run. It could truly
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: be your body too, and like I said, a mindset
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: thing too, like you're like, oh yeah, it's time to go,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: like I'm feeling good. But truthfully, the tracks do feel different.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Some tracks feel better than others for sure.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Talk me through like a typical day and attract meat
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: or a day of a track meet, because I know
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: there are multiple days sometimes too, and they last a
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: long long time sometimes, like you guys are just like
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: sitting for like two hours too, Like walk me through that.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Well, that's I feel like, I don't know, I feel
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: like that's not my case. I feel like high school
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: used to be more like that, for sure. I feel
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: like now it's not like that, like I feel like
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: every time it's turned around, I need to get back
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: moving cause like I have my next race, or I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: have the next round or you know what I mean,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: like if you have to go around. So so now
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: this weekend we have a two day meet. We have
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: been having one day meets, but now it's gonna be
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: two days. So two days is a lot shorter, for sure.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: It's gonna go by quick. You know, like I'm gonna
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: wake up. I'm gonna have my shakeout in the early
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: in the morning to get my body going, make me up,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: you know, because I've been sleep and then go eat breakfast,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: team meeting, prayer, all of that. We're gonna come back
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: because you need to be at the track about two
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: hours before your warm up time. And so you know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: you're chilling, you sitting down, you're kind of getting getting
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: in your zone, and you know, like I usually just
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: chill though I kind of act act regular like how
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I would I practice, Like, so I'm not putting too
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: much pressure on myself. I'm not really doing anything out
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: of the ordinary, you know. I know everybody has like
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: their routines, Like everybody has their routines, but yeah, just chilling,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: acting normal. You know, I don't really do too much
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: before practice, so just kind of going through that normal
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: thing that I would go through, like just phone roll
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: and not trying not to get too much treatment because
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: you know, I pretty much feel ready to go. Honestly,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: once those jitters get going, I'm ready, like I'm anxious
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: to go, and so then I go warm up, then
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I have the first round, then I'll come back talk
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: to my coach. She tells me what went wrong or
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: what went good, like then he's like, I'm gonnaee you
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: back in about like thirty minutes. Like it goes by quick,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, guys, like it goes by super quick.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like, especially if you keep making it to
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: the next rounds, like it definitely is like a quick turnaround,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Like especially the meets. I feel like the one day
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: meets probably are longer for sure though, because we wouldn't
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: get done to like around five. But it still does
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: seem so quick because I'm having all those events kind
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: of back to back low key, and.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: You probably have like adrenaline.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that adrenaline rush like really like to you is
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: like like I don't know, it's like quick, like I
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: was not at that time it started going again, like
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: I but I like it though. It's good for my body,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Like you know, I feel like once I run one time,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: the next time it gonna be better and better and better.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Like just trying to get more consistent with that too,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and try not to like let it get me fatigued,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: but get me going, you know what I mean. I
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: do think that comes with like getting stronger and stuff.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: And I definitely feel the difference this season being able
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: to get through the rounds better and then going and
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: run the two hundred in the same day and pbe
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and dad and so like maybe if I have the
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: four by four, like just all those things, like just
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: you know, getting stronger in that sick when.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You're running like a four hundred.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Do you like, is there like a trick to like
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: pace yourself? Like is there like a way that you know, like, okay,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: now I'm like, now I got a speed up or
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: like is that something that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, my coach stand in the same spot all the time,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: and so he's like, you need to get out, you
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: need to get out here, and then you need to
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: just settle in. Don't slow down, but like just settle
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: in and relax like, don't like, you know, overdo it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Think about like the tempo.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, think about the temple. And by this point,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe the first lap. He doesn't want me
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: to blitz it because you know, I'm one that would
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: get tired quicker. So I need to just you know
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: that first he says, like that first fifty to like
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: seventy meters, like just like adrenaline, Like that's just going
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna die from that. So you need to
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: get out use your speed, and so then come around
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: maybe about the first lap. Inside, I should be coming
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: through about like twenty five something, twenty five, twenty six,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: perferably twenty five. We're gonna go to twenty seconds. Yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: twenty five seconds were not gonna I run. Yeah, I
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: run twenty three low, So twenty five seconds is good.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Like that's more control, relaxed, like I didn't overdo it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I should be able to have something left on the
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: second lap. And so then that second lap is the
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: main one. Like when I can run with that second lap,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I wait till I get back around to him. So
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: that's about like fifty meters and he's right there. He's like,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: now you gotta go it's time to kick. And so
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: at this point we have about like what like like
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: seventy five meters left and I'm just like just trying
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: to run and then the last fifty home just like
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: trying to hold what you have and like hoping and
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: praying that I make it to the line before I die.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: But actually, when I did the four bout four in December,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: it went pretty well. I had like three events before that,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: so I feel like I was a little more fatigued too,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: and still did pretty good. So I'm like really excited
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: for this weekend and I'm getting stronger. Two hundred time
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: is coming down, so you know, our goal this weekend
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: is for me to go about fifty four seconds And
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: then he's like, we know we can run twenty two inside,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: so fingers crossed, we doo.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Yes, the four hundred is like the toughest.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, If you can run a good four hundred, you
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: can do anything down. You can do anything down. You
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: can run it two hundred fivet you can run a
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: sixty hundred all that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: Like it.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Always always tell myself, this is gonna help, not hurt,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. If you can get in
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: that shape and condition your body to go. When you
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: go down two hundred meters, you're gonna be you know,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: you're not gonna die, you know what I'm saying. You
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: know you're gonna be able to hold it, so you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: So it's definitely that strength part of it, like being
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: able to hold what you have because there's you're not
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: speeding up again anymore. You kind of just have to
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: hold what you set up, you know what I mean.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: So that first one fifty is very important, and then
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: them last fifty meters, I'm just holding what I have.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: So you said your coach stands in the same spot
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: every time you do it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yes, two different spots, Okay, well like three
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: to her spots. From my sixty he's like right there
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: on the infield, like and when you get done you
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: can see him. Then for the two hundred, he's standing
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: right there at the end of the bank. That last
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: fifty he's standing right there yelling screaming, you know, job
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: gotta go. I love him. See, that's the only person
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I would hear. That's yes, you know his voice, like
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I truly black out until like that's where he is,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Like it's that exact moment where he's at like I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: don't hear anything except him, And.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: There are other coaches allowing to like tell their athletes like.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Come on, you got it, yeah, like that there probably
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: is happening and I'm not even knowing because all I'm
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: hearing is my coach for like tunnel vision, yes, yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: and like I don't know, like I always hear him,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: and then like for the four by four he stands
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: on the infield, like right at that corner, Like I said,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: for the last lap where you're about to get out
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: and then you only ran fifty meters, he's right there
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: telling you to go again, like now it's time to
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: pick it up. Like I don't know. He always stands
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: in these spots and you just know his voice when
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: you hear it is PTSD or something.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: It's distinct, Yes.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Like I would like need that, like some type of
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like marker to be like okay, now I gotta like due.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I definitely need him because I'm like, are you going
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: to count usin? Are you going to count right here
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: or are you gonna do like like he's like no, I'm
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: not counting y'all. Y'all need to know how to like
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: but I need it, like I need you to account
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: for the peace of mind. Yes, peace of mind.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I feel like that happens with a lot of sports too,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Like on a soccer field, like I feel like hearing
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: a coach's voice, like you have tunnel vision for that
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: coach's voice, right, or like in gymnastics too, like my
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: coach stands at a specific spot that I need to
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: look at when I land, or something like that, Like
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: it helps, it does help.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: They very comforting.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: They can't do much. They can't do what you do.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: You can't run for me, but you can't run, but
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: there are like little tips and tricks that can help
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: you for sure.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Even in volleyball too, like will transition to like go
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: hit and if like the benches like behind me or whatever,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I'll hear like swing cross or like kind of like
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: quiet but like you can hear it. Like they don't
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: want obviously like the other team to hear, but like
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: it's cool to just like kind of have like the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: not like this person in the back of your mind,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: someone that's just like there can be like okay, yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: just so that can help you.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: And that goes back to what you said in the
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: beginning too. With recruitment, like whose voice do you want?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, and you want your ghost to be
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: there watching you and paying attention to you, Like I
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: feel like all that is important, you know what I mean?
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Like you know it's real, genuine they genuinely care, you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: like you have trust, like you trust that coach. I
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: always feel like my club coach always said to me,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: like like you would tell coaches that I would have
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Like once when she buys in to you, like and
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: she trusts you, you got her, Like she's gonna she's
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: gonna take off, She's gonna do exactly what you ever do.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: But if that trust is not there, then I'm definitely
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: not you know what I mean. Like I just I
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: can't like I don't know what it is about me,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Like I have to literally buy into the program for
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: it to work for me like that, I literally have
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: to trust you on a whole another level, you know
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: what I mean, and know that you genuinely care about me,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: because that if I feel that little bit of it
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: that you don't, you lost me.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of like what voice do I want
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: to listen to for the next four to five years?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a right one. Do they know what
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: they're talking about like that really is like a major
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: life decision when we sign to go to these schools.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Like they're literally like you know, trying to be in
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: our parents, Like they're gonna be our like guardians while
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: we're away, like all of that, like and it's just
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: like it's really important. I feel like it's very important
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: who you pick to go with.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I feel like the recruitment process and track for like
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: during high school, like they come to your house. It's
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: very like warm and specific and intentional. Did you have
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: coaches coming to your house and like making home visits
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: and meeting your family? Like what was that?
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I actually had one home visit from Georgia Southern,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: And oh those coaches were so amazing. They were so
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: sweet too. I knew, you just knew the difference from
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: who really wanted you and who didn't. Looking back on
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: it now, it is so evident and I kind of
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: don't know how I missed it in the process for really,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: but just young, you know, you don't know any different.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: You don't and like, like I said, I was the
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: first one in my family to like kind of get
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: put on this pedestal, and you know, it's a little
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: bit different, like with Track, like just all of that,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Like I can't fault anybody for we you know, we
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: didn't know any different, Like it was our first time
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: with track and all of that, so it was just different,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: and it was a different recruitment time like all of that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Like so it truly is like different. But when I
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: do look back and I'm like dang, like you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: I had to reach out to them a lot, like
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you know, but once I came on the visit, it
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: was like things were so different, Like I started running fast,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: and that's when it seemed like they really showed the
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: most interest in me, Like so you've noticed it before,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: like he wanted me when like he knew the like
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: pairmenium that I ran before, you know what I mean,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: not all the big flashy times like so you noticed
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: the difference after a while, like who was here when
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: like I was, you know, not doing that good?
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: So that's really like it truly is important. It truly is.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: You can see the difference.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Coaches can recognize potential too, Yes, it even happens.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: They definitely can't. And I can say that my coach
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: definitely did. He definitely. It's so funny because I'm like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: just yesterday because he's trying to tell the new teammate
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: about it and the story and it's so funny and
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: he's like, I'm like, yeah, you did go through hoops
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: because why did you contact that coach that wasn't even
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: my coach to get to me to talk to me.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: It was just so much like he went through hoops
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: to get in contact with me. It's so funny, but yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: like it goes to show that he truly wanted me,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: you know, and he always says it was his first
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: season he was at Pitt. This is where he wanted
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: me to go when he was at University of Pitt
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: and he was like it was his first season, so
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: you know, like or opportunity to coach, and you know,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: he's trying to get the program going and like he
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: wanted to recruit me, and like he really thought I
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: was gonna sign and then I told him no, and
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: he said when I hung up the phone, he said
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: he was punching the air. Like I'm like, okay, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: it's just so funny, but it does let me know
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: like Dangl thiss Man really wanted me, especially if he,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: you know, took another chance on me for sure, because
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: you gonna give that money to anybody else. I was
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: going into my junior year, you know, like you didn't
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: have to give me, you could look for young fresh talent,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean saying so yeah, yeah, he
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: definitely looked out, definitely saw something in me.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: You know, we were also talking before about how you
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: choose a school because of the school, yes, but how
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: important the coaching is, because we were talking about Quincy
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Williams and how it was he shocked the world by
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: choosing Maryland instead of like the big name schools and
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: What do you think about that? You know, I told
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: you before this film, I love a hometown hero. Like
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: staying home is dope. Like that's cool, Like especially when
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: like you shock everybody like what they least expect you
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: to do. Like I find that like so cool to me.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: You know, because at the end of the day, it
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: does not matter, Like you can go anywhere and be
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: you and be a star and be a performer. It
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you go to lsu USC you know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: all these big names Georgia, Like, it doesn't matter where
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: you go as long as, like I said, you have
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: that coach, you have the atmosphere. You have what you
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: need to be to be successful, you know what I mean.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: That's all that matter. Even D two D three, Like
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: one of the fastest girls came over from D two.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: She was at D two, not even run against fast
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: D one and still was running faster than people over here.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: So it truly does not matter. You go, you take
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: your your mouthstones, your footsteps to wherever you you know
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: where you're gonna be at. That's true.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I can't say anything that you want to share that
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: we haven't covered.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: I don't even know I'm putting on the spot. I
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: don't even know what sure you guys have done so
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: good as me ask me questions. I really can't think
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: anything else.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: Bro Where can we find you on social media?
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, my instagram is mackenzie Sharie and I
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: think it has two e's in the McKenzie Yes. So
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: m c K E N Z I E E S
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: H E R.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Do you have LinkedIn?
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I need to make a LinkedIn and playing everyone you're
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: saying that, like, why do you not have a LinkedIn?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I'm like, guys, but I do need a linked in
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: because they said it's good for like, yeah, LinkedIn coming, Yeah,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: LinkedIn coming, so stay tuned.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: You have TikTok.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I do'm not be on TikTok, so we're not. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: don't want to make up on me. Don't go no.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: My TikTok is haykeinzo. But I barely post for real,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: but it's just fun. I need to get more active though. Truly.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: People always be like, you're the perfect person to do
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: like days in the life and do stuff like that.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I never do stuff like shit like you guys know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: like how you play a sport, but you're still so lazy.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: That's I feel like I'm so lazy, like I don't
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: like doing stuff that takes too much work, but then
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: again I still do it, Like I don't even know.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: There's a difference sport. You just don't want to post
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: like I don't know.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think you can categorize posting on
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: social media bas.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Okay okay okay. Like I just need to get better
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: with stuff like that, because when I see it is
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: so cool, I'm like, dang, I could do the content
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: stuff like like people would love to see it. I'm
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: just lazy. I blame it on I'm too busy. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: got other stuff going on it. Yeah, yeah, that's okay.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for coming on.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for having me. This is
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: so fun, so fun,