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Tales from Craig's Vacation, MLB Home Run Derby Preview, CFB Lawsuits Aplenty · The Craig Way Show

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Look who's back in town after seventeen days or whatever
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  Speaker 2: the heck it was out there.
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  Speaker 3: Glad to be back.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the program here on the Monday on Sports
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  Speaker 2: Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and where you can
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  Speaker 2: always listen to us absolutely free your charge on the
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  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Since this is the Craigway Show, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I should do it right. Okay, my name is Craig Wait.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining us. Appreciate your joining
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  Speaker 2: us today. Glad to be back from vacation. And no,
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  Speaker 2: that's true. I think those of us who take vacation
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  Speaker 2: are happy to have vacation.
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  Speaker 1: And I was.
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  Speaker 2: I went back to the you know, my home state
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  Speaker 2: of North Carolina, down to the beach. But I had
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  Speaker 2: other purposes and other reasons for that. My oldest son
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  Speaker 2: was getting married, so there was a wedding down there,
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  Speaker 2: so it was it was a little bit different kind
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  Speaker 2: of journey.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll get in all that in a few minutes.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I sort of say, we do appreciate it
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  Speaker 2: when we get our vacation time, but especially and I
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  Speaker 2: think this really goes for living here in the state
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  Speaker 2: and in this area, in the Greater Austin area, that
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  Speaker 2: you're happy to get back to work, happy to get
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  Speaker 2: back back to business.
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  Speaker 1: And I am so glad to be back here.
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  Speaker 2: They glad to have Jay Carmon here as the producer
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  Speaker 2: who sat in and managed things and ran it well
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  Speaker 2: and filled this host role while I was out.
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  Speaker 1: And you're not having any withdrawal from that, not doing
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  Speaker 1: it now.
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  Speaker 2: Are you.
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  Speaker 3: It's not yet?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's good.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you sitting in and I know you had
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  Speaker 3: a good time doing it, so that's good, sir. Did
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back, Craig. It's great to see you, Glad to
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  Speaker 3: glad to have you back.
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  Speaker 2: Good to be back. And again folks who've listened to
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  Speaker 2: the program, and I mean there's some OG's that are
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  Speaker 2: down here that remember when I was doing the show
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas, and remember me taking that vacation always around
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  Speaker 2: the same time of year. Now it is it has
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  Speaker 2: become more crucial that I take it when I take
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  Speaker 2: it now, sim simply because of the last twenty five years,
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  Speaker 2: is the play by play voice of the Texas Longhorns.
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  Speaker 2: It affords me the one opportunity to do that, and
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  Speaker 2: that is going to be on the end of June
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  Speaker 2: into mid July. Sometimes it's coming right on the heels
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  Speaker 2: of the College World Series in I'm on this got
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  Speaker 2: within a week of it with Texas having, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the three games, and they were up there about a
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  Speaker 2: week over the course of the time to play the
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  Speaker 2: three games. And sometimes it runs right on the front
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  Speaker 2: end of media days for the respective conference that the
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  Speaker 2: Texas Longhorns played football in. I mean again for the
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  Speaker 2: Ogs among you remember even going back to Southwest Conference
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  Speaker 2: days back into the nineties in the mid nineties, and
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  Speaker 2: then the Big Twelve starting in ninety six, and I
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  Speaker 2: think too, I went to all but one in the
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  Speaker 2: time that Texas was in the Big Twelve. The only
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  Speaker 2: one I missed the thing was ninety seven, and that
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  Speaker 2: was it got moved up earlier and it worked out
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  Speaker 2: with with where I was headed in vacation all that
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff to where I didn't go that year.
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  Speaker 1: I think Keith Moreland went with Bill.
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  Speaker 2: Schoning to do it, and I did it, but that
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  Speaker 2: was I think that's the only time I missed all
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  Speaker 2: those years in the Big Twelve.
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  Speaker 1: And then SEC he started a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: They had in Dallas a couple of years ago that
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be it.
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  Speaker 2: Last year in Atlanta, was coming off of vacation, so
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  Speaker 2: Lynn and I just drove from the Myrtle Beach area
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  Speaker 2: to Atlanta, about a six hour drive and did it
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  Speaker 2: then and then just finished our drive home after that.
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  Speaker 2: This time, the SEC Media Days were pushed back a week,
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  Speaker 2: so gives me a chance to catch my breath and
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  Speaker 2: get back have a regular full week of programming or
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  Speaker 2: full week of shows, and then the following week we'll
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  Speaker 2: be here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we'll head for Tampa, Florida
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  Speaker 2: for SEC Football Media Day, so Cameron Parker will be
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  Speaker 2: with us, Mike Cardball Harge, so we'll head We'll head
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  Speaker 2: for Tampa for SEC Football Media Days a week from
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday to be there Wednesday Thursday, including when Steve Sarkisian
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  Speaker 2: and the Texas contingent is there on Thursday. So there's
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  Speaker 2: that between that. By the way, even though I just
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  Speaker 2: got back into town this weekend, I'll actually be down
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  Speaker 2: in Houston. I'll do the full week of shows, but
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  Speaker 2: then head to Houston on Friday. And it is the
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  Speaker 2: annual Texas High School Coaches Association's Annual Coaching school and
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  Speaker 2: convention and it's huge. It's the largest convocation of coaches
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  Speaker 2: gathering one thing in the entire world. They'll have over
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  Speaker 2: thirteen thousand coaches there and a lot of it in
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  Speaker 2: its original named coaching Schools because they have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of guest lecturers, usually college football coaches, clinic things, session
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  Speaker 2: breakdown stuff like that. So they have that. They have
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  Speaker 2: another event which used to be the final event of
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  Speaker 2: the annow it's on the front end of it, and
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  Speaker 2: it's the annual Hall of Honor banquet where their Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame inductees are enshrined. And I have served as
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  Speaker 2: the MC for that event for gosh, it's been over
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  Speaker 2: twenty years now I've been doing it. And then and
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  Speaker 2: then they have one other they have they have all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of different things. They elect their new officers and
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  Speaker 2: new president.
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  Speaker 1: All that.
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  Speaker 2: They have the gigantic exhibit hall in the convention center.
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  Speaker 2: This in this case it be the George R. Brown
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  Speaker 2: Convention Center there in Houston, where you walk through there
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  Speaker 2: and you anything that's related to coaching and in large
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  Speaker 2: measure of football, not not entirely football, but large measure,
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  Speaker 2: so anything from goalposts to sports drinks to motivational videos.
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  Speaker 4: To.
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  Speaker 2: Elbow pads, to heat bomb, anything you can think of
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  Speaker 2: that might relate to that sort of thing. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: probably going to be the play for it. A display
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  Speaker 2: booth there that's neat. Yeah, it's I used to say
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  Speaker 2: it's the world's largest convocation of bike shorts and heat bomb.
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  Speaker 2: Back when the coaches used to wear those polyester bike shorts.
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  Speaker 3: They don't do that anymore. There a lot of them
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  Speaker 3: are pretty fashionable now how about stick them? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that too. All of that stuff is available there. So
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  Speaker 3: then there's that.
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  Speaker 2: There's one and like I said, there's several in person
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  Speaker 2: interactive events that goes on, and then there's one other
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  Speaker 2: event that I'm associated with and I really look forward
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  Speaker 2: to it every year.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's a panel discussion that I've been moderating again for
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  Speaker 2: about twenty years now, where they gather on one stage,
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  Speaker 2: all thirteen Division one FBS college football coaches who work
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  Speaker 2: in the state of Texas all on one stage, so
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  Speaker 2: all thirteen are there. I always do this every day
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  Speaker 2: see if I can remember them all SMU TCU, North
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  Speaker 2: Texas Texas Tech utep Rice Houston, Baylor, an M Texas
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  Speaker 2: State UTSA. See always always start start to mess up
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  Speaker 2: when I get right toward the end. Oh, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say Texas. That'd be one. And then there's
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  Speaker 2: one other one.
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  Speaker 3: Did you say, well you did you say Sam Houston?
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  Speaker 2: Sam Houston. That's the other one. Because they've only been
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  Speaker 2: FBS for a short time. So anyway, that's that's all
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  Speaker 2: thirteen Division one FBS programs are there on stage, represented
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  Speaker 2: by their head coaches. So yes, Steve Sarkishan will be
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  Speaker 2: on on the panel, and Mike elco at Texas A
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  Speaker 2: and M will be on the panel, and and uh
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  Speaker 2: Neil Brown the new coach in North Texas, and Rhet Lashley,
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  Speaker 2: the coach at SMU Sunny Dyke's TCU. Anyway, all thirteen
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  Speaker 2: Division one. Yes, Joey McGuire will be there, the Texas
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  Speaker 2: Tech Red Raiders head coach. They'll all be on that panel.
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  Speaker 2: And what they do is I am handed the questions.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't looked at them. I just know that they're there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm handed thirteen questions, one for each of the thirteen coaches,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's a series of follow up ones that
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  Speaker 2: are there. But the whole thing is only slotted for
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  Speaker 2: like an hour and fifteen minutes, so it's you have
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  Speaker 2: to kind of motor through it. And my charge is
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  Speaker 2: not only to ask each coach what a specific question,
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  Speaker 2: and these questions, by the way, are specifically written for
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  Speaker 2: a specific coach. No, I don't think there'll be a
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  Speaker 2: question about Brendan Soresby for Joey McGuire.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's.
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  Speaker 2: More because remember the audience, the people that are sitting
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  Speaker 2: there watching is about five hundred division or five hundred
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  Speaker 2: high school football coaches and some college coaches in there
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  Speaker 2: as well, and they're ostensibly as part of quote unquote
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  Speaker 2: coaching school. They're there to learn things, and so these
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  Speaker 2: questions quite often are about building a program and staffs
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  Speaker 2: and stuff, but in the past few years it is
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  Speaker 2: included nil transfer portal, those kinds of things. So it's
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  Speaker 2: a panel discussion that I really look forward to moderating,
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  Speaker 2: and it takes and like we say, it's it's slotted
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  Speaker 2: for like an hour, minute, hour and fifteen minutes something
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  Speaker 2: like that, so we do we do that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's one other thing.
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  Speaker 2: I do that on Sunday before I come home, and
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  Speaker 2: so I'll be there during the during the course.
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  Speaker 1: Of the weekend, so that's coming up at the end
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  Speaker 1: of this week.
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  Speaker 2: Then midway through the following is when we go to
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  Speaker 2: Tampa for SEC Football Media Days. Because, as I've often said,
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  Speaker 2: when I've done this program, when I take vacation, when
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  Speaker 2: I come back, what I usually tell people is I'm
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  Speaker 2: ready to go for the next eleven and a half months,
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  Speaker 2: because then boom, it's on you start. That's that's why
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  Speaker 2: that one slot for me to take that vacation in
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  Speaker 2: late June to mid July comes up, and that's what
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  Speaker 2: I did, just not to bore anybody with the tails
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  Speaker 2: on all this kind of stuff. Lennon and I we
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  Speaker 2: like to drive it because she gets a chance to
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  Speaker 2: see places that I may or may not have seen before.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, there was also a place that she
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  Speaker 2: had been to that I had not been to, and
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  Speaker 2: that was up in the Gateway Arch in Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 1: We actually went up in the arch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you enjoy cramming into that little vale culser
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  Speaker 3: you've done that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like a little capsule almost, and it seats
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  Speaker 2: five people. So lenn and I were on one seat
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  Speaker 2: and then on the other was a mom and a
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  Speaker 2: dad and they had about an eight year old daughter
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  Speaker 2: and they were with us, and she was very inquisitive
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  Speaker 2: and all this stuff, and so we rode that up
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  Speaker 2: to the top and you know, looked around to some pictures.
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  Speaker 2: Linda had done it once before and she was a teenager,
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  Speaker 2: but we went. We also saw the Cardinals and Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 2: and had a good time there. Stayed right near the
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  Speaker 2: ballpark with a good view of the ballpark. So we
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  Speaker 2: did do that and then rolled it on over to
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky and then and then uh down into North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and then my oldest son and he was was
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  Speaker 2: getting married in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, so we were
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  Speaker 2: there for that.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly.
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  Speaker 2: We gave them all in the wedding party, a very
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  Speaker 2: nice rehearsal dinner and an Italian restaurant there at Myrtle Beach,
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  Speaker 2: and that Linda found out and she mapped it all that.
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  Speaker 1: She did a wonderful job getting all of that situated.
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  Speaker 3: And then I thought the Italians came from your side
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  Speaker 3: of the family.
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  Speaker 1: I got many of them did.
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  Speaker 2: But she she found the Italian restaurant to there's an
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  Speaker 2: old school kind of almost good Fella's Italian placed we
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  Speaker 2: liked to go and eat, but she she thought it
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  Speaker 2: was like a little bit too scruffy for for a
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  Speaker 2: rehearsal dinner, and I kind of agree with her. So
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  Speaker 2: she went in she found a really nice place and uh,
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  Speaker 2: and we had a nice rehearsal dinner for Andy and
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  Speaker 2: Chantel the intendeds uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then they had a very nice on.
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  Speaker 2: The beach wedding, which Lynda and I had intended to
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  Speaker 2: do when we got married down there four years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but it rained on the one day. So but the
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  Speaker 2: folks were ready for it at the dunes uh country club,
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  Speaker 2: and they they set up their big club room for us.
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  Speaker 2: So that worked out well. But but it was it
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  Speaker 2: was perfect weather, a little warm, but perfect weather, uh
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  Speaker 2: for the nuptials. And so they did a wedding on
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  Speaker 2: the beach. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, Yeah, that was great.
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  Speaker 2: And then they and then then they and then uh
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  Speaker 2: the people who set this up wedding venue had a
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  Speaker 2: venue like ballroom where we had the reception after his
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  Speaker 2: dinner and the reception and so Andy and Chantel are
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  Speaker 2: now happily married. And they had had a very nice,
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  Speaker 2: very nice, uh, very nice wedding. Uh so had that,
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  Speaker 2: and then it was after that it was just kind
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  Speaker 2: of chilling for several days and we did we actually Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I had booked a house where I had my four kids,
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  Speaker 2: and my four grandkids were all in there. So it
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  Speaker 2: was it was except for Andy and Chantell wound up
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  Speaker 2: staying a different place.
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  Speaker 1: But it was, Uh, it was. It was a busy week.
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  Speaker 2: And then we Hu Linda and I went down to
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  Speaker 2: a condo down in Myrtle and we were there for
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  Speaker 2: a few days and then just took our time driving back.
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  Speaker 2: We went through Ashville, which is a beautiful place in
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina in the mountains. A lot of people compared
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  Speaker 2: to how Austin was, say thirty years ago, forty years ago,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when it was more quaint and art seeing
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  Speaker 2: really cool, before Austin got as big as it has gotten.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, but it was nice.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard great things about the food there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 2: We we ate at uh, a pan Asian place that
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  Speaker 2: was just tremendous. Uh had had dinner there and then
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  Speaker 2: and we walked down the block. We returned to a
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  Speaker 2: little Irish pub where we had gone a year before
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  Speaker 2: when we'd driven through and uh and listened that they
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  Speaker 2: had kind of had a It wasn't an open mic night,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a band night thing, and so you
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  Speaker 2: had a whole bunch of uh jazz orient It was
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  Speaker 2: kind of almost an open jazz night.
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  Speaker 1: So that was good. We did that.
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  Speaker 2: We drove on the Nashville went to one of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite places where Cameron laid waste, to place Monel's where
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  Speaker 2: you just eat all this comfort food and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We did that.
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  Speaker 2: And then drove home, came came home over the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: So it was nice.
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  Speaker 2: We had a good I had a really good vocal vacation,
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  Speaker 2: but now ready to get back into it.
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  Speaker 1: And so we got several things.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Where there are new laws and regulations for college athletics,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: you can be certain that lawsuits are to follow.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll have some.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff on that, some other college football notes to get
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: to pro football notes as well. We've hit the figurative
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: halfway point of the Major League Baseball season. They've already
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  Speaker 2: all passed the numeracle point, but we're at the All
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  Speaker 2: Star break. We'll talk a little bit about that tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Gene Watson, our MLB insider from the
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox front office will join us. We'll kind
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: of a mid season evaluation and then in a recap
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  Speaker 2: of the Major League draft which just had or that
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  Speaker 2: we can we have some more details on that.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations as the.
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  Speaker 2: Longhorns who have been drafted on that, so we get
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  Speaker 2: to all of that, and as always back in the suddle,
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  Speaker 2: glad to have your input to the program, your questions,
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  Speaker 2: your comments, your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: You can do that. We already have somebody weighing in
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  Speaker 1: on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yad At Chuck Dunaway on YouTube says Craig, I'm so og.
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  Speaker 3: I used to listen to you during Longhorn football games
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  Speaker 3: with my dad when I was a kid in the eighties.
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  Speaker 3: We lived north of Houston and didn't have cable. And
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  Speaker 3: then he also said, congrats to your son.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, okay, well thanks if you were listening to
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  Speaker 2: me on long Horn broadcast in the eighties, which you
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  Speaker 2: heard was the studio anchor, because I.
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  Speaker 1: Had my first work with the LongRun.
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  Speaker 2: Radio Network broadcast on football on any sport was as
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  Speaker 2: the studio anchor from eighty eight through ninety one. I'd
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  Speaker 2: done six years of working on the North Texas broadcast
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  Speaker 2: with my broadcast mentor Bill Mercer, but then the old
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  Speaker 2: Southwest Conference radio network hired me as the studio anchor,
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  Speaker 2: which I was the studio anchor for the entire conference,
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  Speaker 2: and then when that conference network broke up after the
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  Speaker 2: eighty nine season in ninety ninety one, it was the
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  Speaker 2: studio anchor for Texas, but also for Army, Navy, Pitt Alabama,
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  Speaker 2: and Florida State, so I did those as well. Can't
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  Speaker 2: mix up Army and Navy. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: So that was That was through the ninety one season.
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  Speaker 2: Then ninety two is when I moved into the booth
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  Speaker 2: working as the analyst with Bill Shooning. We did ten
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  Speaker 2: football and nine basketball seasons together before Bill went on.
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  Speaker 1: Course to the San Antonio Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so we'll get to your questions, your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody asked, oh, this was the other day. Somebody asked,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: what happened to the Belgian goalie?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I was talking about that live on air, because
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: we were on Friday afternoon, that Spain versus Belgium game
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: that you mentioned. T Boat courtois the real Madrid star,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: the legendary Belgian goalie had to leave with an injury. Yeah,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and so the backup came in, gave up a less
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: than stellar rebound that allowed Spain to bang home the winner.
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  Speaker 3: And so they were following up on that because I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: had mentioned that Belgians God to make a change in goalie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it ended up not helping him. Now Spain
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: winding up advancing. So you have Spain in France one
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: semi final, you have England in Argentina. Any other rematch
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: of the semifinal in Mexico City forty years ago. The
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  Speaker 2: infamous or famous depending on your point of view, hand
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  Speaker 2: of God goal by Diego Maradona where the video kind
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of clearly shows he kind of touched and they asked
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  Speaker 2: him about it and said, did did the ball make
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  Speaker 2: contact with your hand?
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  Speaker 1: He said, I it's the hand of God.
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  Speaker 3: Any anyone that's complained and I'm included in this that's
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  Speaker 3: complained about the use of the v a R, the
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  Speaker 3: video assisted at this tournament. Yeah, needs to remember right,
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  Speaker 3: this is how it used to be. True.
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  Speaker 1: And I will say this too.
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  Speaker 2: I like the v R, but just like instant replay
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  Speaker 2: in college football, uh uh you know, the the ball
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  Speaker 2: strike uh you know system, the ABS system uh and
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  Speaker 2: especially true, I think in replay in football, both pro
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  Speaker 2: and college football, and here, uh, it needs to be tweaked, improved,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: a little faster, a little quicker. Sometimes it seems to
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  Speaker 2: take a long time, and in tournament interminably long time
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  Speaker 2: to get a review correct, even even when the college
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: obvious as well. So I'm I'm for replay. I'm forgetting
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  Speaker 2: the call right. I just would like him to get
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  Speaker 2: it right a little quicker than what they've done well.
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  Speaker 3: And I'd like the explanations to improve. Sometimes. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if it's I don't know if it's the language
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  Speaker 3: barrier in some of these situations, or just the fact
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  Speaker 3: that this is a new mechanism for some of these
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  Speaker 3: refs who officiate in leagues outside of the top flights
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  Speaker 3: in Europe that don't have this system at all. It's
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: they're getting used to it as well. Here like here
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: was the explanation. This referee from Argentina, Yvonne Bartone, is
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: assigned the semifinal. This was his Uh. This is sort
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: of a moment that went viral in that Paraguay Turkey
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: a match refe not by the way, and that was
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  Speaker 3: about the clearest one we got all tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: He's screaming into the mike.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Uh uh. This sounds it sounds like a.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a skip from Saturday Night Live with
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Marcella Hernandez doing it or something.
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  Speaker 1: So it sounds like he sounds a little bit like
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  Speaker 1: it on that by the way.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the World Cup, did you read the piece
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in the Athletic about the announcers and how they call
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  Speaker 2: the goals?
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  Speaker 1: Have you read this?
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Oh? No, I saw the headline and I got distracted.
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  Speaker 1: It was okay, go ahead and okay.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: The headline reads, how does Fox call World Cup goals?
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  Speaker 3: They don't by not calling them.
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  Speaker 2: And this was written by three writers, Rebecca Talbor, Andrew Marshan,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: who's kind of the TV critic, the media critic, and
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Dan Schennoff. And it said you may have noticed it
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: while watching World Cup games on Fox this week. A
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: goal of scored, the TV play by play announcer offers
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: a quick exclamation, then silence, just the roar of the
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: crowd and images from the world feet of jubilant or
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: despondent players and fans, but no TV announcer narrating in
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: that moment. The term of art in sports television. I
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: remember hearing this way is laying out. I'll never forget
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: doing a high school state basketball tournament when.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: It was girls UIL girls.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Then in the late nineties when Mansfield won four straight
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  Speaker 2: girls state basketball championships, and we had a different producer,
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  Speaker 2: not a regular one that was used to working with
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  Speaker 2: all this and had a regular is a guy who
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: was used to working I think pro sports and some
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: college So as soon as the thing I said, Mansfield
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: is gonna let the time run out, and that's gonna
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: do it. And all I was gonna say is the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Mansfield Lady Tigers are state champions. And I got that much.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: The Mansfield Lady Tigers are state champion. I got that
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: much out of the guys yelling lay out layout.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: What what was the plan?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I had to talk to him afterwards. Like, dude, I'm
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: with you on that. Let me at least say they're
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: state champions, right.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: You need you need the clip, the clip that's gonna
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: go in the history.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Books exactly so.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Anyway, as they write in the article, the term of
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: art in sports television is laying out, and as has
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: been a parent any fan of Global soccer slash football
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: broadcast tuning in the Fox for the World Cup. The
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: technique is distinctive to US broadcasting Fox in particular, but
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: a technique you regularly experience an action from all of
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: their top us play by play voices during the biggest
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: televised sports events.
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  Speaker 1: This is where it gets interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Simply put, laying out is the play by play announcer
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: allowing the natural, frenzied crowd noise rather after a huge moment,
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  Speaker 2: to carry the pictures on the screen rather than talking
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: over them. Think of Joe Davis calling a walk off
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: home run, Kevin Burkhart calling a game winning field goal,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Mike Breen calling a buzzer beating tip inn, or Joe
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Buck calling a Hail Mary touchdown. There is no dead air,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Buck told the Athletic. If the announcer doesn't talk, the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: air is still alive bucks point in space allows the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: viewer at home to feel the electricity inside the stadium.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: In US sports TV, laying out is considered an elite skill.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: The best do it naturally, while others get tweaked for
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: talking over that initial wave of crowd sound and images.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You know, one of the pioneers of it was Vin Scully,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: obviously with what he did, but so during this World
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Cup you can sense the English broadcasters wrestle with a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: distinctive old world impulse to keep talking after the goal
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: is scored, an entirely standard and valued practice on European
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: football match broadcast. To be sure, it still happens off
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: and on US broadcasts across all sports. They are clearly
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: mindful of the American broadcast custom. They give it a
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: few seconds, let the crowd noise frame the moment, then
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: jump back in unleashing welcome pent up enthusiasm to talk
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: about what viewers have just seen. Derek Ray, who's really good.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: He's British, you know, one of Fox's announcers. It comes
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: down to wanting the moment to shine rather than the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: commentator being front center in that moment. I think if
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: we did it for every single Biggish moment, then it
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: would lose its effectiveness. So it really is sort of
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: time and place and understanding when the organ soundtrack is
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: going to be more powerful than anything we could say
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: as commentators.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: So there's that approach, and then there's the Telemundo approach
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: where a lot of English speaking listeners and viewers are
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: watching the games on Telemundo because it's a very different
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: style of broadcast that there's no layout on this at all.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: No, it's good.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Andres Kantor is a great army, but you can see
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: in coolers like commercials doing it when he gets that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: When he when he orders a coolers light, you think
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: he's saying go, and he goes cool.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Coors light.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Peace.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: By the way, there's another minute eighteen seconds of this,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: but I know we don't.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Have right right, right, yeah, yeah, So he goes on
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and that's more of an international thing.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: One thing I found interesting about the article Derreck Ray,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: who's a British broadcaster but he's Scottish to be exact,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and he said he vividly remembers the first time he
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: ever heard the American style. It was the nineteen eighty
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: six AFC Championship game, dick Enberg called Cleveland Brown's receiver
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Brian Brennan's forty eight yard touchdown reception from Bernie Cosar
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Broncos ultimately won the game on the drive engineered by
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: John Elway. But he said Brian Brennan, he's got it,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't speaking him for a full minute. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: remember listening to it and thinking this is different. Ray said. Then,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: when I started working on American events, it was made
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: clear to me by a lot of producers that this
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: was kind of a tenant of American team to try
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: to accentuate that moment. So I think as a commentator,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: it's incumbent upon us to understand our audience, to understand
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: who we're working for, to understand who we're talking to. Now,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: all of that is true, I offer only this one
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: caveat everything we were just talking about TV. It's different
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: on radio. If you don't say anything on radio for
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: long periods of time, people don't know what the hell
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: is going on. You can give it a moment in
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the crowd swells, but you shouldn't go a.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Minute and a half.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You got to come back in and explain what happened.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: And usually the analyst does that afterwards, and Roger Wallas
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: does has a real good sense of timing on coming
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: in after.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: It's Keith Morlamon. He's worked with me as well.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: You know, I'll call it touchdown, touchdown Texas eighty seven
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: yards or whatever, and then I'll lay out and you'll
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: go for a few seconds, and then Roger or Keith
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: will come in afterwards.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: So there is a practice to it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much quote unquote skill there isn't it,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: but it's a good habit to work yourself into as
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: a broadcaster on radio as well as television.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: All right, up next inconceivable here in the Money afternoon,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I'm thirteen under the Zone, second hour of the program
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone, Craig
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Way with you alongside the producer Jay Carmon. Glad to
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: be back in the house after being gone on the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: annual sabbatical, the annual vacation in this case seventeen days
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: of vacation. So because it's the one time of the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: year where i'm you know, I can take a day
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: here or a day there and do stuff. When I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: go up to guest lecture at North Texas. Sometimes it
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: requires taking a day off or something else here or there.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: But I can't take any protracted time off other than
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: that one spot in the summertime, because like I laid
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: out in the first hour of the program coming up
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: at the Annual Coaching Convention for the Texas High School
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Coaches Association and the Annual Coaching School and then we
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: go to Tampa for SEC Football Media Days, and then
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: we get back right after that practice starts, like within
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a week football practice that players report practice underway, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: we hit the ground run and we get ready for
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: a brand new football season, which is around the corner.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: But I always say that the first mile posts first
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: mile markers of those are the release of Dave Campbell's
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Texas Football Magazine, which is out. The subscribers have their copies,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and I think it'll be available on the shelves. And
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to use the og quote, news stands. There are still
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: new stands, by the way, especially where your home turf
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the East coast, they still have very active news stands.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Correct in the big cities.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can still find a news stand at
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: a bookstore airport yep, yep.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So But anyway, and I think they're doing the same
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: thing again with Dave Campbell's Texas Football. I think it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: going to be available on the supermarkets, probably Walmart, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: then I think also in Barnes and Noble. So anyway,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: that's one mile marker, and then you start getting into
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the serious mile posts like Conference Football Media Days.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Who was last week? Big twelve? Big that's right?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Big twelve was last week, and ACC is tomorrow, right,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: And it goes on for a few days, And the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Big twelve did it all in two days, didn't they
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: They did?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Half of them one day and half the next, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: then the SEC takes four days to do. It will
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: be there Wednesday and Thursday in the back half of it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: including the day that Texas will be there as well,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So that's next week. Big ten follows, I guess right
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: around that time at an American conference that's going on though,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: had those as well. So those are things that happen now.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: When I come back from vacation, invariably I have to
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: catch up on a lot of things. I used to
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: have a phrase that would say, when you go out
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: of town and you're working out of town, not vacation,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: but if you're just working out of town, you have
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to work twice as hard to come back only half behind,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: is what I used to say.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: But in the.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Case of vacation, there's stuff that you're just going to
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: have to catch up on. And I try to, I mean,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: even while relaxing and whatever, being on the beach or
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: or just hanging out, I try to, you know, get
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: caught up on my reading and and things like that.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: So I'll do that, but there's some there's some other
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: things as well. Linda just reminded me of a story
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I left out of Inconceivable. It's fabulous, but I'm gonna
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: save it for tomorrow. Okay, it's it's it's wonderful. It's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: perfectly because you just start with the word snakes and no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's really good. In fact, speak of the things.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: When we were driving home, we stopped at a rest area.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: We weren't long back inside the Texas border, inside across
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the state line. And I will tell you this, a
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: lot of rest areas in the Deep South are really nice. Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas not so much, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: most of them really nice, and Texas has some really
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: nice rest areas. So we pull over a rest area
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: because the driver had to run to the restroom.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: That was me. I'd been drinking a lot of iced
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: tea and water and sodas and stuff on the drive.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: So eventually, you know, the payment comes due. You got
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to make that stop off and run in there for
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: number one pretty quickly. So I'd done it, and it
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: was in the evening, and this was near.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It was kind of between Mount Pleasant and Greenville, so
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I was probably about one hundred mile. It was on
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I thirty. That's probably about one hundred miles inside the
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: state line, a little further into Texas than I originally remembered.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It was in Hopkins County, which is where sulfur springstets.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: So it's on the west side of that before you
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: get into the Hunt County over where Greenville is, and
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: then you're only about fifty miles from Dallas. So I'm
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: rolling through there and I stopped the rest and I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: going in and you know, going there and hit the urinal.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Then I come back and on my way back and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I thought, this is like one of the nicest rest
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: areas I think I've ever been in it's very clean, right.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I even remarked to Linda that you can't eat off
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the floor there, but you could put a picnic blanket
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: down there and sit on there and feel pretty comfortable.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: But I walk out and they have a nice little
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: scenic pond in front of it, a little banked area there,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, that's nice. Nothing that I see
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a sign that says please watch out for snakes back
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to the car. Now, that wasn't the story what Linda
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: said it the once he said, it's far better than that,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: But that came to mind. The other thing is, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: this is something I said to one to the top
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: of the hour about something that was connected to the vacation.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: In my home state.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Of North Carolina, and Texas is my home, let's not
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: be I've lived more years of my life in the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: state of Texas i have in North Carolina. But as
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: they the old saying is about the home state where
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you were born, where you grew up. That was North Carolina.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I left when I was eighteen and I haven't been
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: back except on vacations. But one of the things that
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: there aren't too many things that are available in North
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Carolina that aren't available in Texas. But one of them
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: is a soft drink. And I've talked about this before
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: that I drank as a kid, not that often, but
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: to drink it often enough to really really like it
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and to miss it when it was our air. And
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: it was developed during.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: World War One.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And during the war. During World War One, corn syrup
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: was not available for certain sodas. It were in short supply.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: So this local bottler in Salisbury, North Carolina, came up
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: with a soft drink using cherry syrup instead of corn syrup,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and he called it cheer wine. Now there's no wine
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: in it. It's a soft drink. It's a soda, but
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: that was the name of it. It was developed in
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seventeen and it caught on big. It's always
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: been big in North Carolina, some parts of South Carolina,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: maybe the northern and to the coast, and maybe a
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: little bit in Tennessee, Virginia, Georgia, just little bits but
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: not much. Hard to find it. It's mainly in North Carolina,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: and they've always kind of taken pride on being a
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: smaller bottler and not getting too big. So this cheerwine sodai,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: he said, what does it taste like it's kind of
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: a cross between cherry coke and Big Red. Okay, okay,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: It's not quite as sweet sugary like Big Red, but
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: more so than cherry coke. But it doesn't have a
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: cola flavor. It's more of a cherry flavor, kind of
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a cherry soda. So I always liked it. So I
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: brought a twelve pack of it back here for North
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Carolina native Cameron Parker Nice and he about flipped, you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: gave it to him. He really really liked it, so
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: he so I brought him some. So our two super interns,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: you know that worked throughout the building, Catherine uh and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: uh antone who's subbed in here before. They had never
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: tried it before, and they're like, I want to you
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: need to drink it cold. I've just brought six a
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: twelve pack in at room temperature. So they went and
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: got cups of ice and cracked it open and they're like, wow.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Sugar rush again.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Not quite as sugary as a cream soda or you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: even a Big Red, but more so than like a
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: cherry coke.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's the best way to describe. Have you
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: had it before?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I've had. I've never had cheer wine.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, you probably what we probably need to do is
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: do a taste testing.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: But I've had a cherry coke, had a big red Okay,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I'm picturing it, okay, all right, all right, yeah I'm interested.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it's good. So Seapala says, yess. Old
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: guys understand the rest stops. Yea, yeah, we had a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: few of those. And you know what, that's directly proportional
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: to what you're consuming while you're driving. Right, our last
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: drive was about twelve hours, broken up by meals and
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: you know and rest stops, you know whatever in stretch
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: your legs and things like that. But it was it
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: was a long drive. So naturally we had, you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: snacks everyone to make up this nice snack basket thing.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So we have that and she could pull out some
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: snacks when when I was on vacation in North Carolina,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: there was a little candy store on the island and
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: they sell a lot of old school candy, not just
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you know the raiders stuff of the old school stuff
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: like old school caramel creams and old school zagnut bar
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and what never had a zag nut? It's picture a
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: butterfinger without the chocolate, but infused with some coconut in it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Oh there's no peanuts.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you wouldn't be able to eat it
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: because it's like the peanut butter filling type of like
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: a butterfinger.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Is zagnut I see nuts and I zag the other
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: way exactly.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would need to so that they have the older,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: older candy bars and things like that saltwater taffy, which
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: long one fans always managed to get some on the
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: fairgrounds of the State Fair for the Texas O You game.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: So it's stuff like that.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: So I had I had a sack of that, you know,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: where I could just pick off a piece or two
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: driving you know, or whatever. Or she might have a
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: bag of chips open or something like that. So and
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I'm you know, washing this down either with with uh,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: you know, I had.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Some bottled iced tea or or or soda or uh
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: or water.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: That caffeine could be a double edged sword though.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and you know it also helps with the long
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: drive sure, but yeah, it increases the amount of.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Stops, the amount of snakes.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Apparently you be careful which ones you do, right, So
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: anyway that that you know, that's all part of that
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: long distance road travel that we're all familiar with if
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: you do enough of it driving. I mean, how many
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: times would you say you've driven between your home area
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: of DC and here in Texas.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Oh? Oh, well, in college I would fly. I've driven
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: from Texas to Wisconsin and back twice, and then I
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: obviously drove down here when I moved.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I've done.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: And I also went from my hometown up to North Dakota.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to ask you about the Dakota connection.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of driving.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: So I've done, you know, four or five of these
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: really hefty road trips.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: So you know what it's like there, and you're you know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: snacking along the way, You're having a beverage along the way,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and eventually you got to have to stop because those
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: sodas will run through you and the water will as well.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Mainly i'd drink a lot of water, but I would,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: but I would mix in soda or iced tea and
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, and.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Then it's like, okay, I gotta stop.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: She's like okay, so yeah, so that that that happens.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Stopping happens. Yeah, on that all right?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Coming up, And like I said, this this update on
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: this college for whole thing with regard to nil, there's
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: some interesting numbers and things thrown out. We'll get to
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that when we continue here on Sports Radio AM thirteen
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: under the zone of the IRT Radio app set an
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: hour of the program here on this Mounday, I'm thirteen
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: under the zone, Craig Way with you alongside the producer
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Jay Harman.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: There were two or three.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Items and things like that that I didn't have the
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: opportunity to comment on while on vacation because it was
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: on vacation, and some of it had to do with
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the things that were going on with the World Cup
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and the United States, you know, coming up short against Belgium.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I do agree with Carly Lloyd's assessment that they almost
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: looked like they were playing scared. They were very tentative
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: and wound up costing them. Belgium got very very aggressive
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: on the offensive end.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: As a flat start, it can't you can't use your
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: home field advantage proper when you start as flat as
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: they did, and it just it looked like they were
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: at a different speed than the rest of the tournament, right.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: So that was one thing.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: The whole business with Balligan and the red card off,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: then back on, and I noticed I've read a lot
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: of things where you know, a lot of long time
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: veteran journalists were heavily critical of FIFA for allowing him
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: to play and allowing him to be whatever politically influenced
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: or whatever, whether it was or not, and ended up
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: not mattering in the long run anyway. Now, one other
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: item that's come down is something in Myron Metcalf, who
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: covers college football and basketball for ESPN, had a piece
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: today one thing that happened while I was out, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: we knew it was coming, and we said it was
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: coming and talked about it months ago, and it was
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: part of the motivation when Jim Schlasnegel was playing some
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: players late in the season who hadn't played all year
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: law and freshmen, because he expected the five year rule
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to pass, where you would get a flat five years
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: to play college athletics in whatever amounts you chose to do.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: You have five years to do it, to do all
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: of it. And so it did pass, and I think
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: it's a good rule. I know Sark has been in
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: favor of a lot of college football coaches were in
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: favor of event worry about red shirt and this and
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: medical and hardship and great shirt and all that other
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: stuff he had five years. Well, there's always going to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: be a flip side to it, and Myron Metcalf wrote
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: today that the NCAA is facing a federal class action
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: lawsuit against these eligibility rules. Eleven Division one athletes, including
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: kay Tyson of Minnesota basketball player and Brock Wisney of
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Northern Colorado, have filed a federal class action lawsuit in
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Colorado that alleges that the new eligibility rules have adversely
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: affected their ability to extend their college careers and the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and io benefits.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Attached to such opportunity.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: The eligibility rules I mentioned grants all athletes five years
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to compete. However, it did not reant athletes who exhausted
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: their eligibility in this just completed season an additional season.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: So a partner in the Caneo, Gilbert, Flannery and Laduca
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Law firm sent in a statement, these athletes aren't asking
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: for special treatment. They're just asking to not be singled
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: out and excluded from the NCAA's eligibility framework. The NCAA
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: updated the rules, but refused to apply them only to
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: the very group that was most immediately effective if the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: NCAAA has determined that five years of eligibility is the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: fair rule for college athletes, and athletes who would still
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: be available but for completing four years of eligibility should
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: not be deprived of the same educational, athletic and NL opportunities.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Last week, an Ohio judge granted twenty four men's and
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: women's college basketball players at preliminary injunction to continue their
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: college careers and enter the transfer portal after they'd been
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: ruled ineligible by the NCAA after they alleged the new
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: system unfairly impacts them. After that decision, the NCAA Division
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: One cabinet said, quote, we do not intend to change
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: course in quote. So basically, these athletes, he's eleven athletes
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: are saying, we deserve just because you came up with
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: this rule now doesn't mean it couldn't give us. We're
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: in the hero and now right now, we just finished
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: our fourth year. We should get one more year. And
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: they're saying, no, you can't do that.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: And you can't do that because the five for five
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: model right didn't start till it doesn't grandfather them in right.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: But in other words, It's not like they were taken
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: away of a year that they would have otherwise had.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: They were under a system where they knew it was
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: their last.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Year, right, and then this came up.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I would say, I do feel sympathy for them, if
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: only because what we all just went through with the
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: COVID year and the Super Senior and all that stuff.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: There were a group of athletes that came in in
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen twenty eighteen that wound up with six and
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: seven years of eligibility because of what happened with the
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: COVID rule, and which I thought was a fair rule
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: by the way, Now was it then exploited?
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. Who's the Miami tight end nine years? Right?
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, Miami tight end was there for nine years with
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: four different schools, and he had a injuries and things
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: as things of that nature.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And we've heard of some eight year seniors.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Kim McCormick, that's the guy nine. He enrolled at Oregon
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got nine years.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: He played in the playoff.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: He played in the playoff. How about that?
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: So anyway, so that's why I can kind of understand
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: where this case is coming from. They're saying, you know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: there's guys that got six, seven, eight in that case nine,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: but six and seven year eligibilities were pretty common. Texas
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: had a catcher a few years ago that wound up
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: with I think it wound up total being seven years
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: because there was two years at Hill College in Hillsborough
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: juco route and then and by the way, that's an
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: entirely different argument than a lot of student athletes are
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: making that. We saw that with the Diego Pavia thing,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: saying that junior college should not count against your collegiate eligibility.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Sark by the way, who was a junior college quarterback,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: vehemently opposes that, says, no, you're playing college athletics, you're
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: just playing at the junior college level. Pavia got his
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: extra year, went through it, and went undrafted afterwards. But
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: he's open and catch on be able to extend his career.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: But this particular rule is kind of sticky because this
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: eligibility rule set will dramatically shift the athletic climbing in
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: college sports. And this is Myron Metcalf writing this, as
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: most waivers and red shirts will be eliminated with few exceptions.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: In college basketball, international players have been key additions across
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: the landscape. But the new ruling means older play from overseas,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: like the Long Words getting their latest Lithuanian you know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: will no longer enjoy the same opportunities as the new
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: eligibility clock for all athletes will begin when they enroll
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: in college or the semester after they turn nineteen.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: In other words, you can't sign a twenty two year
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: old from Spain and you have five years.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, five years. It doesn't work that way for the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: international players. The clock starts from the time they enroll,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: regardless of age, or you know, when they turn the
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: semester after they turned nineteen. So whether you're nineteen or
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: twenty three, the clock is that you you know, you
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: got you got the five years.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: The clock is underway there right.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't take away the opportunity from from professionals
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: in Europe, that's correct. But you're doing something to prevent
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: the upward trajectory of ages, particularly in college basketball, because
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: that's been identified already now as a big advantage.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: And I will say this too. The other things that
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I've read about this, and in some of the reading
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: that this was going to come down like this and
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: that there was going to be a class action lawsuit
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: for those who wanted that one extra year. Part of
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: their argument in the age argument is going to be
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: look at BYU. If student athletes go on mission, assignments,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: mission tripped, they go on mission and come back, and
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: you're going to start the clock at age twenty four
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: with them. So this is where these arguments are going
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: to come down. Do you throw a blanket over all
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: of it, or is it a case by case basis
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: or does it apply in certain circumstances. And that's why
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: they said with few exceptions. There will be some exceptions.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: With regard to injuries and waivers, there will be some exceptions,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: but not many. By and large, this rule was crafted
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: to give student athletes. Say you're coming out of west
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Lake or Cedar Ridge or LBJ or Leand or High wherever,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: and you sign on to the college, the clock starts.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: You got five years. That's how it's designed.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: These people's argument is we should have been allowed to play.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: We should be allowed to play under these same rules
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: because we just completed what would have been the fourth year,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: so we should be allowed our fifth year.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: But they had red shirts available and weren't given so
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: there's the give and the take.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, and that's that's going to be about. So
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting to see how, how and
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: where this goes with them. All Right, we'll continue here.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: We're at the All Star break for Baseball. Show of
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: hands out there. If you're interested in the Home Run Derby.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I'll give it a watch. I watched the Home Run Derby.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I predicted on the air Friday that Bryce Harper was
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: going to repeat what he did in DC, and that
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: is win the home run Derby at his home stadium.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, but the format's all different now, so who knows.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: We're going to get into that. Coming up next here
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: on thirteen under the.
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  Speaker 3: Zone Cock Back, Back, Back God, where.
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: It's the Craig Wag shot with the voice of the
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: Texas Longhorts and Hall of Fame broadcaster.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Craig here on the Swindsay Afternoon. Can I say that.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: One thing that I don't miss is Chris Berman on
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: the Home Run Derby.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: And I like Chris Berman.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I've liked him on the NFL Countdown and Prime Time
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff, and it's a sports center anchor.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I just felt that baseball was not his best sport,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: either in the play by play realm, and certainly not
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: on that I mean, because it was all part of
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: his stick, the backpackpack backpack thing, and after a while
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: it got kind of old listening to it. So that's just,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: you know whatever, shaking my fist at the clouds or whatever.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: But I'm kind of glad we don't have that anymore.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, brings me back to those childhood home run Derby's
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: I used to watch, and I agree. I like him
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: with the those fastest two minutes.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Yees or three minutes, isn't it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've They've given him another minute.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, He's great on that, and he is a
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame broadcaster. That's just one part of his game,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: just like Joe Buck. I think is a contrary to
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: some opinion, a lot of people don't like Joe Buck.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I think he's really really good, but golf is not
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: his game. And when they had him on the US
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Open several years ago on Fox, it was ill fitted,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: if that makes sense. I'd love hockey in the NHL,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: but I haven't done play by play of hockey before,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: and I would probably not be good at it if
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I try. At least not starting off anyway, it would
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: probably take some time.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: You know, I'd soccer. I've done both indoor and outdoor.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Don't a lot of that.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Obviously, football, basketball, baseball, Uh, tennis have done, but I
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: haven't done hockey.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: He's called tennis, uh huh for television.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: That it's been a few years. But yes, so swimming
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: and diving as well. So you know, there's there's certain
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: ones that maybe were less attuned to. And I also
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: understand how contracts work where people get certain things in
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: their contracts and stuff like that to get to work
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: certain events and things like that.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the home run derby, Uh, there is there
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: are stet uh stat cast metrics being put in the
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: play to help break down the field. So you know
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: that with the rules that are in play, it might
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: be pretty interesting to see, for example, dinger score. So
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: if they ruled top dinger scores from twenty sixteen to
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: the press and excluding twenty twenty one, they and it
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: includes guys who did win it win the derby, but
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: most of the time did not.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: The top dinger sto scores And.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: What they did was to compare a handful of stat
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: cast batting metrics to see which held any predictive power
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: over home run derby scores, so in some cases if
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: it had any impact at all, said, we took all
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: that and made it into a one through ninety nine
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Dinger score that puts one number to a batter's first
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: half derby success to see how well they would relate
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: to advancement with further rounds weighted more heavily. There wasn't
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: a home run derby as we know in twenty twenty,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: of course, and they excluded twenty twenty one caausey was
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: played at coors Field, Yes, so you know what that's
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: going to be like. So seventy two batters were ranked
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: eight per year over eight derbies, plus the eight more
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: that you're going to see coming up in this home
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: run derby tonight. The top Deinger scores of the top
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: nine scores of sixty four ranked in this particular metric,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Eight advanced beyond the first round, six made the finals,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: and four won the whole thing. So the top scorers
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: were scores of ninety nine. One of those Aaron Judge
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: speed of ninety nine. He won it in seventeen. O'Neil
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Cruz advanced to the second round. That got knocked out.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: He had a five hundred and thirteen. For the home run,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: he had a ninety nine score. Vladimir Junior three years
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: ago won it had a ninety seven. Juliorodregez was a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: finalist in twenty twenty two. He had a score of
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: eighty eight. Ronald Acunya Junior a score of eighty six,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: and twenty nineteen he got to the second round. Twenty
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: twenty two a score of eighty five for Acunya. Soto
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: won it twenty twenty two a score of eighty one.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Gen Carlo Stanton twenty sixteen won a score of eighty
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: and Miguel Sanyo it was a finalist in seventeen. The
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: lowest score was a one Alex Bregman and Adlie Ritchman,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: and none of them advanced beyond.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: The second round off of that. So maybe it is a.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: You know, they used a variety of metrics adjusted exit velocity.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I know there's some people out there just rolling their
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: eyes over the really batspeed.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Jack Kagle owns the bat speed king. He's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: in this in this Derby.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: UH exit velocity on pulled air balls only, okay, and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: blast per contact rate, adjusted exit velocity is a version
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: of exit v loo where it's only the average of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: balls hit at least eighty eight miles per hour, because
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: anything underneath that is just a different flavor of poor compact.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Is what they say pull in the air when every
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: home run in the derby counts the same, because that's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: how it's done in a competition like this. Of the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: more than twenty three home runs hit in derby's over
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: the past decade, three quarters of those were balls pulled.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: If you're right handed, hit or pulling it out to
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: left field. If you're a left handed or pulling it.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Right you say twenty three home runs, twenty three hundred
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: there ago.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Of the more than twenty three hundred homers hidden derbys
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: of the last decade, three quarters of those were pulled. Yeah,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and in the last three years only six total home
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: runs were opposite field shots. So they say that's a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: happy accident in a derby.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: That's not a.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Plan, right, because you don't have the pitcher supplying you
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: the type of velocity to take it the other way.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: The rate of how often participants pull it in the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: air in the regular season doesn't seem to matter much
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: how hard they hit it when they do does matter.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: It's why James Wood didn't fare so great.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: In the run Derby. Good point.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Bat speed mattering so much shouldn't be surprising, given that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: it gives you margin for error even.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: If you tire.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: If you look at this year's top ten in bat speed,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: half of the group you mentioned, Jack Kaglom Junior, Cavian Arrow,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Jordan Walker, Kyle Schwarber, Wilson Contreres, they're all in the Derby,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: and those are bat speed guys.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jordan Walker for a while was a bat
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: speed and hit one hundred mile an hour ground balls guy,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: and this year he figured out how to lift it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: and he's had a major breakout.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: A blast, meanwhile, is a squared up ball that's also
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: done with elite bat speed. Plenty of slower swingers like
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Luisa Rise and Mookie Bats square up the ball really well.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Many fast swingers do not square up the ball that well.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the problem Dylan Cruz is having right now.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: So the rare few who can do both, and this
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: year you're talking about Caviny Arrow, Juan Soto and Jordan
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Alvarez Let's saydon they're in the top five of that number,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: and those guys are stars. So and they say, by
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: the way, one takeaway, what shouldn't surprise anybody hitting the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: ball hard in the first half of it really does matter.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Each year there's a smaller, lighter slugger who relies on timing,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: athleticism and pulling it to exactly the right spot in
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: order to get in game power. No one obviously suggesting
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: that the likes of bragmant in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Bets in twenty twenty three, and Jazz Chisholm last year
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: aren't very good players, because of course they are. They
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: also tend not to do well in a competition like this,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: where less raw power simply gives you less margin for
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: error and demands perfect timing over dozens of swings. A
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: worry if bats being dips even slightly over the night
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: as fatigue sets it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: That's why I got like.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo does well in it, you know, big dude,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: and in fact says you can even look look back
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: and learn something this way. For example, why did two
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: time champ Pete Alonzo do a lot better in twenty
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: nineteen when he won it in Cleveland and in twenty
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: twenty two when he advanced to the second round in
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, than he did in twenty twenty three and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four when he failed to advance out of
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the first round either time. Because in this view, it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: was easily visible headed into the derby that he wasn't
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: the same hitter in those latter years. Again, this is
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: in counting Colorado in twenty twenty one when he won there.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: They just throw that one out. It makes sense. So anyway,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: who were roll off the roster? The guys who are competing.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: The night so you already mentioned contrerast, Jordan Walker, Jack
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Cagleon from the Royals and Junior Camonaro from the Rays,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Bryce Harper and Kyle Schwarber to Philadelphia Phillies are competing,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Ben Rice from the Yankees and Munataka Murrik Comedy.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Nice to have him healthy, yeah yeah, so, and we'll
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: talk to Gene Watson about him since he plays for
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: his team, the Chicago White Sox. All right, we'll be
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: back to wrap up Hour number two right here on
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Third and final hour of the program here on Sports
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Radio AM thirteen under his own back in the house,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: back from vacation, back on the radio with you.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: On the money.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Glad they had you with us, Craig why you joined
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: by the producer Jay Kerrman on the text line, we
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: had like sea palace and some nice things. And you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: weren't invited to the wedding, you know, but Taylor Swift
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: and Travis Kelcey, No, my own son, and he was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: getting married the very same day.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: So I was a little tied up, you know. No,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I was not invited on that. Did you have a
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: lot of feedback and folks commenting on the wedding?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: We were out on the third, right, well, so we
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: had we had an inconceivable item on the trash outside
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: the wedding and that drew some okay, some eye rolls,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: But no, no, not a lot on on that actual
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: wedding because like you said, we were out on the third.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: The day before that was was a US World Cup day, right,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: So we're talking about that for a lot, right.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: And then and then and then you were out what
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: was it last Wednesday? There was a Daytime Round Rock
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Express game.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Yep, YEP, Daytime Express game on that Wednesday, gave us
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: a little midweek intermission.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so does that as well? See Pal
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: said like I said, yes, old guys understand the rest
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: of you. They're good to have.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Uh. And then there's our man Ryan.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: When you hear from him and nice things, Ryan, I
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: appreciate it, said welcome back, glad you're back, and asked
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: if I had a nice cold one.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Yes I did. Uh.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: But on all three of Ryan's text he said I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: did not even listen to thirteen hundred at all while
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: you were gone. Now, Ryan, are you saying that just
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: because I was out? Are you saying that because Jake
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: was hosting the show? Because he's right here in the room,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: and Jake was able to read those exact same words
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: there when he said I did not listen to thirteen
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: hundred at all while you were gone? I mean, was
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: that a shot at Jake? Is that how that works?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: You're just saying just because I was out, you know whatever?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: And if it was just because I was out, I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: would say, should give Jake a shot every now and then,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: you know what I because every now and then I
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: have to miss Jake does a good job, prepares forty
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: as guests. He has opinions, he talks, and the heel
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: refer to your texts as well.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, oh.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: We get.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: We had some texts and we were able to talk
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: about live on the air. We had folks kind of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: on the cynical side. When it came to the NHL's
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: potential move to Austin. That was a topic we talked
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: about a lot. We were taking suggestions on on hockey
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: team names. It was fun, Ryan, you missed out.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Go back to the old minor league ten the ice bats.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, A couple of folks were texting in with that. Yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: my somewhat ironic team names didn't draw any interest in
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: the traffic.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's good. That's good. Yeah, apropos. Anyway, we
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: were talking about college football last hour, and well was
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: going to happen with some of the other things, the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: college athletics, the five years to play five things, the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: class action suit and all that. Would it be safe
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: to say that you, if you're not a first rate
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: died in the woold gamer, at least you've participated in
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: some of the games like the AA Sports college football
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: games and stuff like that in past years.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I used to play it growing up every year
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: the college football up through twenty fourteen. When it stopped,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: it was fun. I remember I would I took one year,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: I took Tulane as my team and wound up. You know,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: it was pretty realistic. The Superdome started empty, then it
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: was full by the time I was playing for you know,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: New Year six Bulls.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Did you have because I tuned Innicasional when it was
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: all on the road, did you have an item where
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: if you played Florida International and won it you would
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: get see some tickets?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: As? Was that the deal?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah? It was the first. I think two people were
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: offered season tickets in the club level. If you take
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Florida International as your team win the national championship, screenshot it,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: send it in.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, uh, I know you said it evokes some things.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Some folks were doing ai thing. So they were playing
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: outside the rules.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah they were. They were sending in screenshots here done
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: right away upon closer inspection.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: That's not a real screen grab. Okay, all right, so
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: there's that. Also, How difficult is it to do that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: with a team that's not good?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: Not as hard as you think. Well, because because you
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: have to play it depends on the settings you have
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: the mode the game mode in terms of the actual
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: you have to be like, what is it Championship mode
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: or whatever it's called. The Oh, maybe I didn't see
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: that caveat too. I don't know how they could verify that. Yeah,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's got to be like in the highest mode.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: But it's hard if you're a Florida International in the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: game to build up your to build your roster, right,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: you have the challenges that are built into that, regardless
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: of what mode you're actually playing the game on.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you took that step because of this.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Next story, and I suppose I should ask This was
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: updated a couple of days ago, so post I should
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: ask my son Jason because he just ordered the CFB
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: twenty seven game.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I think he's got it now he's been playing it.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: And did you have the story on Friday about what
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: EA Sports has decided.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we touched on it a little bit.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: There's a lot that I find about this game and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: the way that EA Sports is going about manipulating this
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: whole thing very distasteful. They announced on Friday that the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: CFB twenty seven game we will no longer include micro
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: transactions and single player modes. Now, when I first read it,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what that meant, so I had to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: do some more reading to figure out what that is.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: And basically, you correct me if I'm oversimplifying it. The
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: more money you pay and invest in this thing, the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: better chance you have of winning.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Pay to win.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: It's pretty much.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: It's pretty standard on your run of the mill iPhone
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: app rather than a high tech, next generation sports video
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: game that's played competitively and cost sixty bucks.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Right, So I mean naive that I am. I thought
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: you paid your sixty bucks and you played, and if
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: you were good enough then you could win.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: You never have to spend any money. But the fact
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: that it's in there, it's a little predatory.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: It leverages the opportunity to be successful depending on how
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: much you expend, Right, you better be really darn good.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: And here's to your point, Like you said on iPhone,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: my wife Linda plays two or three various games that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: helps the time pass by the way when we're driving
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: home on vacation, and on some of those games they
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: want her to pay more money. I guess it's kind
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: of a now an updated tool of them. We used
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: to play at the arcade and you got your third
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: ship blown up, you want the game to continue, put
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: in two more quarters. I guess it's that's kind of
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: a version of it back in the day. So the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: reason that they're doing this, they're pivoting this that they're
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: not going to include micro transactions in single player modes
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: because they got a lot of backlash from folks and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: campaigns to boycott the game, largely driven by popular online
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: personalities whose content serves as a crucial promotional vehicle for
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: modern games.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: This is true. This is the hottest trend that I'll
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: see in my YouTube algorithm. Now that we're talking about this,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: and now that it's listening to us, it'll be for instance,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: you know I took I took a team of all
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: Juco guys and won the national championship. People will take
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: you on these journeys through and people can play the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: game vicariously and watch in one hour what it would
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: take them days to do. They don't have time.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Wow, And here's the mode I was talking about. But
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: the deal one I mentioned about the Florida International Dynasty Mode. Yep,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: that's the one I thought I heard reading you got it,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: you have to win it in Dynasty Mode and.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: You can play Dynasty mode. You know you can. You
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: can link your different consoles online. I've got a group
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: of friends all they all went to Texas with me,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: all live here. Last year they started a competitive Dynasty mode.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: They all started in the Sun Belt.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: But they erupted into a fight when a couple months in,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: you know, the third virtual season rolls around. Right, one
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: of my friends goes, oh, by the way, I just
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: took the Texas job, so that's gonna be my team.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Now you can't do that.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you talking about.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: That's after taking Charlotte all the way to the Sugar.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Bowl, right.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Gaming the system in other words, Well, so, these micro transactions,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: as Jake kind of laid out, require players to pay
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: for access to certain in game features and their commonplace,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: and many games that feature online multiplayer modes, they often
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: involve character skins or power ups to give paying players
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: exclusive content. Those transactions, however, are typically limited to online play,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: whereas most single player games allow players to access their
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: core content once they purchased the game, which is what
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I thought was always the case. Apparently A got greedy
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: with this when it came to single player modes.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: Well, you don't have to do any of this. But
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: of course when you're comparing yourself to to, you know,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: versions of the past game, it's like it would be
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: like if something you're you never had to pay for
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: before suddenly slapped the charge on it. If Starbucks suddenly said, hey,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: you have to pay nine to nine cents when you
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: order a head.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: On our app.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Right, you don't have to do it to enjoy the product, right,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: but they make it.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: More convenient if you do well, it said. In the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: case of CFB twenty seven, which was released last week
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: for deluxe version buyers my son and on Thursday for
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: the general public, EA required players to pay for x
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: P slider progression within the game's Dynasty and Road to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Glory modest.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Mid to explain that that's that's where you know if
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: you if you bring in and again, I haven't played this,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: but I have watched some people play it, and I
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: have seen my friends in this competitive Dynasty mode of theirs.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: So what is x P slider progression for Dynasty or
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Road to Glory mode?
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: What I think that is referring to is when you
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: land a player with your team, you normally you have
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: to you know, you can take them out of the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: practice field. You can you can do such and such
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: things to develop your players and develop your program, and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: this kind of speeds that up by pain by paying
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: rather than playing.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, The modes are two of the franchise's most popular
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: and are both single player. The game's base price of
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: sixty nine to ninety nine made the inclusion.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: Coming up at seventy bucks now Yes, the.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Game's base price of sixty nine ninety nine made the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: inclusion of micro transactions a point.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Of further criticism.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: By requiring additional payments to progress in those single player modes,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: EA broke from a model it had established across at
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: sports games over the last thirty years, and online backlash
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: was swift. Average players and prominent game influencers called the
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: tactic a money grab and expressed outrage that EA had
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: announced their inclusion before the game launched. So here's like,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: for example, here's a post for mcguyle and x Sneaking
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: micro transactions into single player modes lets me know everything
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: I need to know about where EA wants to take
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: both football titles in the future. That's why it's now
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: or never to make a change. Taking the game and
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: that direction is going to ruin all of the support
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: and love.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: So because remember this game only came back on popular demand.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know because of all the issues that
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: happened with the name, image and likeness. Really it's kind
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: of opened the door with part of that, the name,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: image and likeness. I remember when Rod Bavers was on
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: the staff and he talked about how he liked the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: thought of being in the like two thousand and two
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: game or the one game or whatever, and then later
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: they came back and offered everybody like six hundred bucks
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: I think in a game or something like that.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Now, the workarounds that they used to be able to
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: do for that was crazy. You'd have QB number ten
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: and he would look and play like Vince Young. Yeah right,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: it just didn't have his name right, right exactly.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: So anyway, it's EA Sports has decided to eliminate the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: paid progression systems at the center of the controversy and
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: says the changes will it take will take took effect
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: over the weekend, so they kind of they kind of backpedaled.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: We think about this too. There's there's kids that they're
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: playing the game, and you know, gosh knows if mom
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: or dad has a credit card hooked up to the Xbox.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about this from experience, but you know,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: the kid could be paying for this and nobody would
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: even know about.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah, exactly.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: And you say kids like you said, well, you need
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: lots of people who were playing Listen, a lot of.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: Older Yeah, a lot of older guys and girls are
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: playing this game because they remember it from twelve years ago.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, including my youngest son who just turned twenty seven,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: but he was playing it when he was fifteen, you know.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: And fourteen and thirteen does the Dolphins fan. No, that's
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: the older one Packers fan. This is the Packers Okay,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: so we'll see how he is with this. I was
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: gonna say, if it was a Dolphins fan, you can
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: understand leaning into college football instead of Madden.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, kidding, no kidding.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: And I didn't mention, you know about during the pandemic
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: the Big Twelve play by play broadcasters, we actually broadcast
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: play by play of Madden of each each school in
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: the Big Twelve their campus championship game. So I did
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: play by play of two guys playing Madden against one another.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm guessing you were calling it off of a
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: separate remote location, off a monitor.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: In my house. Yeah, because it was during the pandemic.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: So watching it on a monitor and calling it.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: And you're calling it straight up as if you're in
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: the video game itself, as if it was real life.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I didn't know what was going to happen.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I had the players actually had charts done up for it.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: So we were asked, now, were you calling he's got
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: ninety nine speed or were you reading off stats like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: it was a real broadcast.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: There were some stats, there were some stats, but you
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: were mainly, you know, you were mainly just calling what
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: you saw because the game moved so quickly. And then
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: once you had the campus championships, then you play the
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: other schools in the Big twelve get a conference champion.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: So I only got one game because it was Texas
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: against Iowa State and Iowa State was good, and so
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: John Waller is the play by play voice of the Cyclones,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: did it. I think he did play by play in
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: the first half and I did the second half, or
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: maybe he did it when they had the ball and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I did it when Texas had the ball.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine if real broadcast were like that?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you it was.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: That's when we started saying, Okay, we're going to have
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: to do some stuff on remis. We have remote broadcast
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: off monitors, and the ESPN certainly is leaned into it
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: because it's a cost saver for them to do it
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of folks would pay to have
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: Craig Way in there. Madden.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: I've never been approached by the Madden people to do that.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: All right, more coming up here on Sports Radio AM
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: thirteen under the zone of the IR Radio app. It's
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: interesting that you shows this from traveling Willberry's George Harrison's
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: lead boys, right hear, and then the others get involved.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Obviously, last night, Lynda.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: And I watched the Martin Scorsese documentary on George Harrison.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: I'm meaning to watch that.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, living in the Material World, and it's been around
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: a while, and this first time I've really had an
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: operation cent out of watch and we watched part one
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: last night.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: It was really good. It was good.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to part two, which is his
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: post Beatles career, which would include obviously.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Traveling Willberry's there on that.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Ryan, let me see if I can help you out
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit here, he said, it did the University
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: of Texas to go to the conference there now for money.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: The games are all about money as far as you
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: need to pay or do this or do that. You know,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: good and well, it's more and more money. This has
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with the University of This is he
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: a sports They're the ones getting the money off of that.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's not the University of Texas or
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: any other school for that matter.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: Now. The players and coaches and universities are getting a
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: very small slice. Yeah, and that doesn't change based on this.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: No, this is about the company that's doing it. Ryan,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: it's not. It's not about the universities. Somebody said, do
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: you have oh, Jake, Hey, Jake, you have meta period glasses.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: If you do sometime as soon as you get a
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: chance too on personal period time, I close your eyes
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: and see hot work for you that way. I have
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: never heard of meta period glasses.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know what that is.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: AI glasses.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. But Ryan, you can
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: explain that to him.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never I've never worn them. I know, uh,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: they're catching on, but I've never worn them. Or tried
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: them before.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, if you want to explain that, right.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: I also don't wear glasses, so it might it might
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: raise some suspicions if people saw me a random all
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: of a sudden with the new pair. Oh yeah, they're readers.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, don't worry about it.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's that's a good point.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: I just go with regular old standard readers for mine.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: So Jake mentioned that if you're in the home run derby,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: you better have Netflix or access to Netflix to watch
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: it tonight.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on Netflix. It's it's not on ESPN.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: Women's World Cups on Netflix too. Next year they're trying
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: to tiptoe their way into the sports world.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Well the NFL games, Yeah, that they've had. So don't
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: they get a playoff game? Oh?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: They yeah, I think they will. That was a big Yeah,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: we've forgotten about that because it was a big hoopla
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: about this time last year when the NFL made that decision.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, the prime video, of course, was
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: the ones that did that with that Chief Dolphins game
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: that was so frigid a couple of seasons back. The
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: that was the first time they've done that a playoff
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: game on a streaming service.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: Oh you know what, I don't think they have the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: playoff game, but they've got a Christmas game. Yeah, and
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: then this year it's expanding. They've got the first ever
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Eve game is going to be on Netflix.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Rams Packers it's a good game too.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: And then Week eighteen they've got a late season Saturday.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: So I'm guessing that means the league's going to put
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: a standalone Week eighteen game that will matter on Netflix.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: If you are planning to watch Homer in Derby, you'll
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: need access to Netflix either. I'm sure sports bars will
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: have it, you know, I would imagine most because this
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: is one of those one of those deserted island sports days.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: There's not much happening in the way of sports. There's
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: no World Cup games.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: I'm still not watching the Summer League.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: You got Summer League, but not for you.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: No, this is yeah, no no things.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, So they did a poll of the ESPN riders
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: and said who's going to win the home run Derby
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: and who will be the runner up. Jeff Passon says
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: Junior camin Aro is going to win it over Murakami
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: closed last year, David Johanfeld has Schwarbro over Camon Aro,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Buster Oney has Bryce Harper as you are predicting to
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: win it. He's got him over cammon Aaro. They've got
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Camon Arrow. Just about everybody likes Camon Arrow.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: Well, you think about the guys coming into this home
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: run Derberry with the most real life home run hitting momentum.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: Nobody had a better June in this lineup than Cam
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: and Arrow.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jesse Rodgers is Camon Arow over Schwarber Castillo.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: This is the one. I like Schwarber over Harper. Ah, Okay,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I see that.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: Who do you think the crowd would root for?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Uh? I think Schwarber if it came down to it,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: don't you think. I mean, they're both Phillies. But well,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: Shorber has yet to win a Derby, despite his power
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: surge in recent years, but he came through for the
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Nationalague in Atlanta last year in the first All Star
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Game swing off seem so I think they might in
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Harper's won one right in Washington.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in Washington. He played for the Nationals right.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen. Yeah, I thought he was never going
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: to leave Washington at that point. I talked about this
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: on the air last week.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, who will hit the longest home run?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: And how far?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Cagli that's what passed and says four hundred and eighty
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: six feet. Sean Phillis's Caninaro was for eighty nine all
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: he says, Schwarbur was five to eleven. Rogers has cagnly
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: owned with five six and Castillo as Schwarber with four
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: ninety two. So anyway, there's some uh that and whatever
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: it cost me to get my wife's coffee these days
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: at Starbucks. She actually is. She actually learned from my
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: daughter a hack to basically get the drink you want
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: without paying an additional like two bucks or two fifty.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: How does that work? It's all in the ingredients. How
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: you listed, like the extra shot or this or that.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so she's doing it completely legal.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: It's a workaround. It's just a workaround. Okay.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: She learned that from my daughter.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: It is about don't listen to this, don't close Linda's loophole.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, it isn't.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: It isn't like the woman that's just going in and
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: stealing people's stuff off the off the order ahead when
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: you go through there.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those drinks are free.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going in there and just lifting them right
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: off the deal. Have a good day, went over with
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: a big smile for the barista, and you're going there.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's me, Katie C. Yeah, that's me.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Have a good day.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: I mean I always tell them thank you and have
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: a good day. Could you imagine if every time I
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: was doing that it wasn't my drink.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And lately, you know, they've gotten into writing the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: little messages on the cup. I had an enjoy when
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: written on my yesterday. Linda's favorite one was one time
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: she didn't notice that she got down the road looking
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: and it was listen, Linda, that that famous thing online.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: But anyway, so yeah, that's there was a workaround. It's
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: just it wasn't that there wasn't wasn't anything out of line.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: There wasn't anything she wasn't getting that she didn't deserve.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: It was just it was following the rules of what
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: what you could get with this shot or that shot,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: or this hand in or that and it basically added
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: up to the drink that she was having to pay
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  Speaker 2: an extra two to fifty four that you could get
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  Speaker 2: for two dollars and fifty cents least.
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  Speaker 3: So this was was this leading? Was this related back
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  Speaker 3: to Netflix?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, Okay, I thought, I thought it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: can folks have a workaround off Netflix? I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that you can.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so, so I'm like a lot of folks around
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: my age, still benefiting from the parental accounts on some
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: of these. So I've been geo blocked from my Netflix
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: on the TV because it's got to connect to my
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Wi Fi. But if I use my phone for some
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: reason and then screencasts that to the TV, it's my workaround. See,
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  Speaker 3: now that's an illegal workaround.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: What you're doing When I mentioned what Linda was doing
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: was actually completely within the rules. It was just a
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: different way of lining up instead of going a shortcut,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: give me this particular drink with this boom, you get
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: hit with the price.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: This was I want this with this shot, with this.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: Add in all legal, all available, and did it and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: it just turned out less what you're doing is downright
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  Speaker 2: stealing cable?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Is that? What that is?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: Stealing cable?
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: A streaming version of it.
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  Speaker 3: Look, Craig, I could just as easily find an illegal
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: stream on all this yes, i'd be behind. I get
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: it spoiled by my over zealous friends texting in. But
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: those are the type of friends you want in your life.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: Where we're texting you during the home run derby.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: But still I have a brother who does that constantly, texting.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: Like you gotta wait thirty seconds, dude, yeah yeah, although
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: with you, I mean you're off it at the game.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Or my brother will text me while we're watching the
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: exact same game in real time.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm watching it. You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: text me that I'm watching it.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to make a comment on what you
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: just saw, okay, but don't say hey, so and so
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  Speaker 2: just goring.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I just saw it.
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  Speaker 1: Stop it.
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  Speaker 3: I just said good.
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  Speaker 1: Night to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, well we're coming up here on
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: thirteen under the zone.
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  Speaker 3: Take it upside.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: A little further explanation from our friend Ryan, who said
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: he was just using University of Texas as an example.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: It's our only point was that, you know, any college,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: any university, isn't going to factor into that EA Sports
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: thing that's all about the game company. Off of that,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: and then you know, we were wondering about what he
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: was talking about about the metaglasses, he said, and they're AI,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: they're artificial intelligent. I didn't know if you wore glasses
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: or not, you know, because Ryan is sightless. He said,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: you might want to try them just to see what
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: you think. But you don't wear glasses to begin with.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: You're right, you don't need them yet. So right, I
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: went a long time without needing glasses, and I still
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: have really good distance vision.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: But I was having a little trouble reading that.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: I went the doctor h an eye doctor, and he
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: said at the time, I think it was forty seven
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: at the time, and he said, I'm like, well, you know,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: that's about the time you would started hitting it that
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: sort of thing.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: I've only noticed it a couple of times in darker arenas,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: not necessarily stadiums. In arenas, if there's something on a
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: screen far away without good contrast, yeah, I could have
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: a little trouble with it. And I do wear blue
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: lights sometimes when I'm going to sleep watching something or
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: going to sleep on FaceTime, as someone in a long
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: distance relationship does, and that can help you not get
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: so over, you know, stimulated by the screen.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: I see, Okay, all right, but.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: I don't wear, you know, reading glasses or anything like that.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: All Right, So we were talking about the All Star
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Game and we mentioned Bryce Harper. I thought this was
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: a pretty interesting story that came out today. Today is
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: the people hear me say this a lot when the
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: long words are playing, Like say in an NCAA basketball turn,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: I'll say.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Practice and press conference day, that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: They do the same thing with the All Star Game
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: where they take batting practice and they have different media availabilities.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: By the way, for folks who've asked me in the
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: past because they could tell about my disdain for Barry Bonds,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: it wasn't about him being a San Francisco Giant or
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: not playing for the Dodgers. I like them when they
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: played for the Pirates. It wasn't because of that. It
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't even so much about the steroids, although that obviously factored.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I was standing almost as close to him as I
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: am to you right now at the ninety five All
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Star Game in Arlington. Batting practice was going on, and
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: the reporters were standing in one area near the on
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: deck circle, and he was waiting and going to take
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: his swings, and a kid couldn't have been more than
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: seven or eight. Was right there by the rail. He's
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: like ten feet of mister BID's gonna have autograph, mister Bonds.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: And most players, if they don't want to mess with that,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: they'll just ignore it, you know, they won't do anything.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: A lot of players were going over and siding it's
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: an All Star game, it's a batting practice on it.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: All Star Game.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: Barry Bond stood there in the on deck, Sir, I
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: saw it and heard it when my own ears saw it.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: With my own eyes.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Mister BID's gonna have autograph, mister Brian. He turned around
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: and said, f off, kid.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: It's like a seventy eight year old kid.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: And the parent was standing behind the kid. The parent
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: just glared at him, took the kid away.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: What does that mean, dad?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, yeah? H Do you want to ask me
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: how I feel about Barry Bonds? That's why?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: How it's just all that in ninety five of the
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: All Star Game in Arlington on the press conference.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even a game day, it's the batting practice day.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: But you know, something must erupted him the wrong way,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: not about that kid, about something else.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: It's just you know, a lot of people say this
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: is how he was a surly guy, especially when he
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: later in his career and then when all of the
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: stuff started surfacing about the clear and the cream and
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: the you know and all the steroid allegations and all
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So that happened on an All
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: Star batting practice day today, they had one of those,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: and Bryce Harper said that he did not know how
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Fan Duel would use a personalized video that he made
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: for a customer who has since accused FanDuel in a
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: lawsuit of taking advantage of his gambling addiction. It was
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: a statement post on Instagram, and Bryce Harper said he
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: would not have made the video if he had known
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: FanDuel's intent to use it as part of a VIP
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: promotion on the betting habits of the customer, Terry Thompson.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: Here's at the video. If you want me to roll, sure,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: let's have it.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Hey Terry, what's up? Brother? Amen?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: Your host Brittany from FanDuel wanted to make sure your
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: Thanksaiving was extra special. So I just want to hop
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: on here and with you and your family wonderful Thanksgiving. Tom,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: I said, hello, I appreciate all the support through the years,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: and I just hope you have a great day, enjoy
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: it and let's see you soon.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: Oh nice not to swear a name that was bleeped
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: out right.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: So he makes a video.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: And then fan duel apparently used as part of a
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: VIP promotion, and he said quote, I did not know
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: FanDuel will do this. I did not consent to it,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: and FanDuel had no right to do it. He said
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: he received a request on cameo back in November twenty
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: twenty four to read the provided script for a personal
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: holiday video for Terry. The Philadelphia Choir published portions of
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: the video in a story last Thursday, and Harper included
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: a screenshot of the cameo request with his statement. So
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: Thompson back in March, sued FanDuel and his VIP host
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: Britney Morgan, along with DraftKings, the NFL, and the league's
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: official data distributor, Genius Sports, claiming that the sports books
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: caused him to become addicted, leading to approximately two million
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: dollars in betting losses. And again Harper said quote, had
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: I know FanDuel's true intent, I would not have made
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: the video. The same is true had I known anything
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: about Terry or a situation, or about any alleged partnership
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: between Cameo and FanDuel. The pseudo ledges that Morgan Attack
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: contacted Thompson with promotional offers and gifts to encourage him
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: to wager more on FanDuel, including tickets and hotel accommodations
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: to attend the Super Bowl. Major League Baseball's Collective Bargaining
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Agreement does allow players to do promotions with sports books
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: as long as they do not authorize the use of
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: their name, uniform number, immager likeness, or promote betting on baseball.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: What do you think they're going to do if they
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: allow them to do promotion with a sports book? What
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: possible connection otherwise could the sports book have other than
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: the connect the person with it, in this.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: Case Price Harper? Oh yeah, Bryce Harper's with us.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: That's silly that MLB says, Oh, it's okay, you know,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: as long as it doesn't have any that. FanDuel refer
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: to its previous statement saying that its employees are trained
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: to recognize and flag signs of problem gambling and offer
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: and tools. You think, really, so, as we continue to
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: review and strengthen our policies to ensure we have the
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: industry strongest consumer protection initiatives.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that those the industry is strongest right now is
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: not strong enough. I mean there is in the NBA
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: right now with the Malik Beasley story, with the with
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: the poker game story with involving Terry Rozier in Major
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: League Baseball with Emmanuel class and this is one of
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: the best ten closers in the game and he's never
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: gonna play again.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out of the game. And to say nothing,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: to say nothing of it's seeping into the college realm
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: now with what happened first in Iowa State and then obviously.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't putting soares being the same category because
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: as far as we know, it wasn't impacting the outcome
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: of games. But it certainly impacts the integrity of the
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: game when you've got a player on your roster placing
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: bets on the team.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Right, and and the age old argument about the Pete
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: Rose thing when they had Roses back saying, hey, he
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: was only betting on his team to win. He wasn't
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: betting on as Major League Baseball said, if you're betting
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: on your own team to win in your urgency to
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: win the bet, you might make moves that you might
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: otherwise not make, therefore compromising the fabric of the game.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: So that's where it went back and forth with Pete Rose.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: It no longer matters now since rosees pass and he's
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: off the suspended list. Whether he gets voted in is
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: an entirely different issue because there's going to be some
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: people that you don't say, no matter what, he didn't
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: belong yet because of what he did, and that's you know,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: that's the cardinal sin, just like sores be found out,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: that's the cardinal sin. With regard to the NCAAA. You
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: can't go down that road. You just can't go down
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: that road. Otherwise it's going to cost you. You're, in
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: this case collegiate career. And he will be eligible for
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: the supplemental or the NFL Draft in twenty twenty seven.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: He will be eligible for that.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: Do you think it's right the NFL suspended him. I'll
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: put you on the spot.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: Well, because of what happened. It happened so late in again, anyway,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: they couldn't make the adjustment to do it, to do
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: for a supplement, or they had nobody else going into
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: a supplemental draft. It wouldn't have made any sense to
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: have him included at that point, and they hadn't had
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: time to take a full look.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: At it to see.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: So, yes, it was the proper move to make in
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: the moment at the time. If they'd had another few
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: months and could have looked at it longer, studied it longer,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: had their legal team take a closer look at it,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: they might have had a different outcome. Not in that
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: shorter timeframe to be able to do it all right.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: program on thirteen under the Zone