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Screen to Speed No.33: Meike Ploeg; Racing licenses, Fun Cup, Sim Racing and more! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to Screen to Speed powered by INIT eSports.
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  In this podcast, we dive into the journeys of remarkable individuals
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  making waves in sim racing and bridging the virtual with the real.
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  From the thrill of digital circuits to the roar of real life racetracks, we explore
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  the passion, Dedication and innovation that drives the world of motor sports.
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  We'll hear from athletes, creators, and pioneers sharing their stories,
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  insights, and the powerful ways sim racing is connecting communities and
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  creating pathways into motor sports.
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  So buckle up screen.
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  The speed starts now.
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  Welcome everyone to talks episode number three, three, Mikey got
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  three, three, as her racing number.
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  Also, So welcome, uh, Mikey blue tower.
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  Any talks welcome in, uh, hello there.
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  Uh, yeah, it's, uh, it's a first for me, uh, life on, uh, on the, in the webs.
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  But, uh, yeah, here we are.
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  And indeed, uh, 33 is my start, uh, a racing number for quite some years.
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  I believe.
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  From 2011, 2012 or so, yeah.
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  Mm-hmm . That's great.
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  Uh, we, so happy to have you here.
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  And let's start with, uh, how did you get into racing?
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  Uh, I know that you started in carting, so let's start with this.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, well, the racing.
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  Um, addiction or the racing, uh, virus started on a very early age.
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  Uh, I caught a scuttler.
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  I had an, uh, herby, uh, bedroom.
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  I had herby bedding.
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  Herbie toys, and I believe, I don't, I'm not sure, but I believe my, uh,
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  grandma also made Herbie curtains.
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  Something in my mind says I had Herbie curtains, not sure.
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  And then on an, uh, uh, around eight or ten, uh, we had a Atari,
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  uh, game computer, uh, at home.
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  The Atari 26, uh, uh, 2600.
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  And, uh, we had a game, uh, N'Zero.
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  N'Zero was, uh, an arcade game with, uh, all kinds of, uh, um, situations.
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  Uh, night, fog, winter.
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  Yeah, that was my first, uh, game.
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  Um, um, connection with racing and also the Herbie movie.
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  Uh, yeah.
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  From Herbie, uh, it was going, uh, to carting in I believe 94.
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  I was 14.
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  I was 14, 15, uh, uh, 14, 15.
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  And uh, yeah, I was.
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  Go into the cart, carting track, uh, on a, uh, on a bicycle, uh, two times,
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  three times a month, sometimes, and just setting, uh, uh, the fastest, uh, time of
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  the week, sometimes at the fastest time of the month and, uh, Around, uh, it was,
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  uh, at the end of 1996, uh, Williams, the Williams FF one team, together
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  with Sonars had a, um, uh, a challenge.
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  You had to set a, a fast, uh, the fastest time on some of the, uh, indoor
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  tracks and when you were fast enough.
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  I believe the fo fast is four something and.
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  You were invited to come to the speech and design, uh, uh,
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  exhibition in, um, in Utrecht.
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  Uh, that was at the end of the year.
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  Speech and design was something, uh, That was, uh, organized every year
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  around December, around this time.
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  And, uh, we had a final, the fastest hundreds of, I believe, plus 5,
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  000, 6, 000, uh, Um, attendees, uh, were invited the fastest and
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  that, yeah, I was one of them.
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  And one thing I still remember is like Joshua Stappan did, uh, a day,
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  a demo on the, uh, on the cartoon track was just a concrete floor.
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  Uh, on the first, uh, on the first level of the yardless, uh, um,
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  building and, uh, he showed it like he was going on rails.
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  And then we were able to do the practices and the concrete was like ice.
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  And so my, my, um, adoration for your stuff came from that.
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  Uh, experience like he drove on ice like it was on rails and we were, uh, um,
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  skidding around, uh, making doughnuts, not intended, but yeah, that was really fun.
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  But, uh, I think I became.
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  Uh, somewhere in the top 30, top 40, not, not as my true self.
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  So when I saw my name again, uh, on the, uh, leaderboards, uh, it, it does,
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  it didn't felt good, uh, in that way.
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  Uh, I couldn't, uh, uh, find, uh, uh, um.
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  I didn't feel comfortable to know I was quick enough to become, uh,
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  uh, better in karting in, in most sports, but not with this name.
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  And that is why I stopped, uh, go karting on, uh, uh, on levels like the challenges.
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  Um, uh, how do we say that?
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  Uh,
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  uh, events like events, like one hour races or so.
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  I stopped with that, and I was just go karting, uh, in indoor
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  karting tracks, and that was enough.
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  So, yeah, they're, they're my, uh, uh, racing ambitions stopped somewhere.
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  And, uh, it was at the end of the nineties, I believe, end of the ninth
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  weekend zeros, I had my first racing wheel, uh, for the computer, uh,
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  Microsoft, Microsoft side window.
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  And then, uh, I started in, uh, pro, uh, rally 2000.
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  Another rally game and a NASCAR 98, I believe.
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  NASCAR 98, uh, and such.
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  So that was my first, uh, uh, idea of, yeah, it wasn't really sim racing.
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  Like, uh, uh, Yvonne also talks for, uh, uh, a week ago.
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  It wasn't really sim racing, but it was.
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  Like for the first time, uh, doing races offline, uh, to.
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  Mm-hmm . And yeah, it was steering wheel.
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  Uh, it, it had four feedback or so, so, yeah.
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  Uh, so about cars, it can be really competitive, especially in Europe.
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  I know that many people doing it.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It can be really hard, uh, especially I think in nineties when you did it.
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  Uh, so fully understand that you.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, uh, then go to only go karting and, uh, then switch
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  to sim racing as understand.
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  Um, how was it, uh, for you to change from actually the, the karting into sim racing?
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  Uh, do you have enough skills to like reproduce in sim racing or, uh, do you
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  learn something new in sim racing as well?
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  Oh, funny enough, uh, the, um, the most, uh, I learned from, uh, from racing
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  lines, I caught from the BMX, uh, together with my brother, I did a BMX, uh, in
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  the late eighties, uh, early nineties.
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  Uh, so in a BMX, we also did, uh, the apex, the clipping point.
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  So, uh, out in out and I wasn't the quickest.
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  I was, uh, The, the opposite of a daredevil, because I, I, I didn't
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  dare to jump, I didn't dare to, uh, cycle on my back wheel, uh, I was
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  just too afraid to break a bone.
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  But the, uh, idea of cornering, uh, and, uh, like BMX, you can
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  cycle through the whole corner.
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  You don't have to break.
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  You don't have, you can go through all the, uh, banking and, uh, go on.
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  And with, uh, Go karting, it was something new and you spent all around, uh, in
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  some corners, uh, especially in go in the pro cars with two engines in the back.
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  Uh, yeah, you go go around then uh with uh from Go karting to sim racing, then
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  it was also, uh, again with the, uh, with the rating lines out in out, but
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  I never, uh, understood, uh, or never got, uh, the, uh, The focus, right?
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  To look through corners.
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  And to be fair, uh, I never saw myself as a, as a true sim racer, uh, as fast as
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  Yvonne or as fast as the aliens, because I always, uh, till a few weeks ago, I
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  always, um, had the issue with the focus.
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  I find it really difficult to find focus to look in the corners digitally.
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  And when I did, uh, my first, uh, test drives in the film club two years ago,
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  then it was immediately looking, looking into corners and you, you can point
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  your car to where you, where you watch.
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  And like, like the course two weeks ago.
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  On Salesforce.
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  I have my focus right now with simul racing.
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  In the past two weeks, I, I feel I, not now more focus where.
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  I had so much, uh, difficulty with finding the focus and now it's easy.
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  That's great.
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  So yeah, I feel,
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  I think I feel, uh, well, a few 10s, maybe a half second faster than I was
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  before, before I started the, uh, racing course for the racing license stuff.
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  It's really interesting that, uh, BMX experience actually help you
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  in some racing, uh, That's awesome.
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  Um, so can you tell me, you just mentioned that you've been into Nascar
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  and some other games, uh, racing games, and how, uh, do you actually move
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  from racing games into the sim racing and, uh, start to take it serious?
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  Uh, I took it serious.
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  I believe Uh, about, uh, well, uh, 11, uh, 12 years ago, uh, I
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  started with the Crunchyroll 5.
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  Uh, uh, I got connected with a small Dutch community, GTRacing.
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  nl.
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  And they are just community races, uh, every week or twice a week.
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  And, uh, racing on a low level, just a community race of maybe five to 10,
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  uh, drivers, it's, uh, got the feeling for me online with racing against real
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  people, not racing against bots or AI.
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  And then it was really, uh, fun to raise, uh, door handle.
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  To door handle a mirror to mirror, and, uh, with also with G Grant , uh, you
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  can, uh, um, approach it on a really, uh, professional level, but you can't,
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  uh, approach it on, uh, on that level.
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  Like in I racing.
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  In Gran Turismo, I always find it difficult to find the right
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  breaking spots, the right
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  clipping points, the right
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  visual markers you use.
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  But yeah, throughout the Gran Turismo 5, 6, and 7, um, and then I hopped
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  back, uh, to the, uh, PC with, uh, I said, of course, competition four
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  years ago, and now, uh, with iRacing.
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  Yeah, now I see it more, uh, uh, as a digital motorsport.
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  Mm hmm.
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  That's cool.
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  Um, what do you think about, uh, so you jump into Gran Turismo 5 years, like, some
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  time ago, and, uh, community definitely help you, and, uh, what do you think
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  about, uh, Some racing community overall.
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  Do you think that people are trying to help newcomers and like, oh, yeah
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  Yeah, yeah, most definitely it's like
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  I think When you take soccer, for example, or hockey, I, I've did, I've
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  did some, uh, uh, uh, field hockey on a very low, uh, uh, basis, uh, in
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  Utrecht, but there was already, uh, like, um, um, how do you say that?
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  Um,
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  uh, leveling.
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  What kind of left wing they were looking to each other, but they didn't
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  really help or support, uh, each other.
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  It was, uh, on your own in most, in, uh, uh, community races in Crown Trismo,
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  later in Assetto Corsa and, uh, I Racing, they, uh, I find it very welcoming is
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  like, It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what you are, is
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  as much or as, um,
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  they should try to do it on a professional level and not do it on an a
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  arcade level.
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  Mm-hmm . So you try to.
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  You try to to find your raising lines, you try to break on a, uh, on,
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  on a certain point, you don't pun.
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  Uh, others, uh uh, often track all the time.
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  Then they see if, okay, that person wants to learn, that person
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  wants to be quicker, we can help.
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  Or you can help him and that that's what I see in, uh, in the same rating community.
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  Very helpful.
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  Very welcoming.
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  Um, um, very welcoming, uh,
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  I can't find, find the word now.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, some racing community indeed, really welcoming.
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  So when I jump into a racing, uh, that was during the pandemic, uh,
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  in 2020, um, found that, you know, everybody's trying to support you.
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  Everybody's trying to help you.
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  If you got bad moments on track, uh, people trying to cheer you up
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  and, um, Um, you know, just really, they're really friendly and, uh,
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  welcoming, indeed, as you said.
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  Um, Can you tell me what challenges did you face when you moved from
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  Gran Turismo to a racing in ACC?
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  What what was the main change for you in driving and in your skills?
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  It was a whole different level.
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  Okay Uh, start, uh, by the beginning, uh, it was, it was
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  2020 indeed, uh, with the Corona.
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  Um, I was helping someone, um, um, he was, uh, launching a new website and he had
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  a web, uh, a website, a webpage about, um, um, movies with the trans, uh, theme.
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  Involved.
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  So I came to the movie, just Charlie.
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  I was searching on a movie, just Charlie interviews and such.
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  Then I, uh, came to, uh, Charlie Martin interview, Charlie Martin.
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  And then I thought, Oh my, there is someone like me racing.
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  And it was, it was a week or so before she did the, uh, math,
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  uh, nerveracking 24 hours.
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  Uh, it, it was, I believe, uh, at the end of August began September.
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  Uh, it was darkest at 24 hours on nerveracking ever.
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  Uh, then, uh, at the end of, uh, 2020, then the diamond
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  drive, uh, cup, uh, launched.
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  So I got, uh, motivated.
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  To buy a new gaming PC and be in that diamond drive cup.
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  With as for the competition, with Johnny Martin, with other drivers, it opened so
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  much, it opened not only the community.
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  It opened also my, uh, uh, uh, perspective of sim racing.
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  Uh, I saw, I, I needed to find seconds, uh, to be seconds far faster than my basic
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  speed loss, uh, uh, to make it worse.
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  The first race in the Diamond Drive Cup was on the Alton Park.
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  I think there are no tracks other than Alton Park.
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  I kind of hate it.
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  So that was, that was an eye opener.
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  It was really an eye opener from, from Gran Turismo.
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  I took it seriously.
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  I took it seriously as a, uh, as virtual motorsports.
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  But the, the, the The level of professionalism in, uh, from, from too.
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  I said the course wa was a huge step for me.
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  Mm-hmm . So, yeah.
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  uh, I, I had to learn, uh, new, uh, tactics, new,
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  uh, a new, a new way of, uh, of breaking.
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  I, I, I did a racing with my.
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  Uh, Logitech, um, G29 on the, uh, on Gran Turismo, it was the same set.
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  I did, uh, um, the first, the first races in, uh, Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Totally, totally different world of, uh, sim racing.
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  Awesome.
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  So you also get into ACC, uh, during pandemic time.
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  That's really funny because, uh, you know, many guests, which we had on any
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  talks, they started from pandemic also, and actually, uh, many people just, uh,
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  discover sim racing during this time and that that's definitely awesome.
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  And yeah, as you mentioned that you change your break in and.
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  A lot of challenges you face, uh, during switching Gran Turismo to Data markers.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, like, in, in, uh, in, in Gran Turismo times, if I call it that, in
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  Gran Turismo times, I always I did, uh, restart, restart a new lap, restart a
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  new lap, restart a new lap with, uh, I said the Corsa Competizione and with
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  the Diamond Drive Cup and later also another, uh, um, uh, uh, female racers.
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  I don't know what that, uh, challenge was, uh, competition
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  was, with more female racers.
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  More female racers.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I did, uh, I did some qualifications in that, really.
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  And, uh, then I stopped to restart my lips and just keep on, uh, doing my lips.
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  Uh, I stopped using my racing lines, uh, on and on and on.
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  I.
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  I turn it off and try to find my racing lines myself.
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  So yeah, in, in real racing, you don't have a racing line either.
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  I just try to challenge myself to, okay, I don't have, uh, that in, in real life.
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  So we don't have in sim racing either.
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  And that's also with sim racing.
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  I try to, uh, Yeah, I challenge myself in driving with less traction
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  control, driving with less ABS or driving with less downforce.
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  Yeah, sometimes you have to try new things.
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  Yeah, that's definitely right.
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  When you try new things.
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  You're learning, uh, something and, uh, you go with new experience, uh,
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  to races and you're doing that better than better, uh, you getting better
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  results and also more satisfied, having more fun, definitely.
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  Uh, so when I jumped to our racing, I also came to some
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  racing from in real life racing.
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  So, I have really high expectations about myself that are like, going to
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  win every race or something like this.
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  Um, and, uh, Astim Racing is really competitive.
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  That, uh, kind of calms me down, uh, when I jump into, uh, racing because I
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  can, you know, You know, win every race.
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  It was really hard.
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  It was a big challenge for me.
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  Um, so yeah, I learned something new.
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  Like I started to be more calm, uh, during races, not rush.
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  And sometimes just, uh, you know, plan the race, uh, better,
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  uh, because we got Yeah, the
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  work on the, uh, what I also did in as far as the competition, that's why I
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  also fell in love with the Gina at us.
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  Uh, doing offline races in the Ginettas or one hour to two hour races, uh, uh,
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  starting from the back, uh, turned, uh, uh, AI level a bit lower, and then, uh,
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  try to, uh, be, uh, uh, to become first in one hour, two hour races, and then, uh,
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  turn the AI level up and up and up and up.
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  So, yeah, then you can challenge yourself and become quicker, quicker, quicker.
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  Yeah, that's the great thing about simracing, that you got the opportunity
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  to jump anytime to the practice session.
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  And we got great AI in iRacing, for example, so you can set it to any level.
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  Um, can practice side by side fighting.
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  And also, don't forget Raceroom.
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  I have to say Raceroom also, uh, In the time I did Gran Turismo, uh, and I had
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  to unplug my, uh, uh, Logitech out of the PlayStation, move it to the, uh,
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  old PC and Raceroom was the only, uh, sim, uh, sim I could run on that PC
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  and, and, uh, Raceroom, I could run, uh, leaderboard, uh, leaderboard challenges.
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  So it was also, uh, a bit, uh, mix between, uh, Arcade and sim racing.
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  I didn't do any, uh, real racing or racing to against AI or against real people.
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  But, uh, yeah, race from also, I have to call them, uh, uh, for
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  their, uh, Also for the sound engine, they're creating a sound.
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  Mm-hmm . Uh, uh, of cars, uh, but also, uh, with the feeling of, uh,
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  certain cars like the bm BBMW, uh, M1 Pro Car and a suit tt uh, yeah.
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  Sound cars.
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  I, I, I, I love racing very room for.
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  Especially for the leaderboards.
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  Yeah.
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  Race room is great.
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  Uh, I raised some time and it's also, uh, that happened.
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  So I started from a set of Corsa, uh, not competizione, just a simple one.
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  Um, then I raised my racing and then at the same time we had, uh, like offline
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  sim racing, um, point in the mall.
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  And so we had race room on this, uh, on our equipment here.
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  And I remember I was racing here and also prepared in race room for, uh, one
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  of the stages in Formula 4, uh, because race room got, uh, Sepang circuit.
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  It's a absolutely amazing circuit.
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  I love it.
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  Um, yeah.
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  Um, many people said that, wow.
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  Sound engine is, is great and Raceroom and people just in love with it.
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  And, uh, that's great that we got, uh, all kinds of different, uh, simulators
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  right now, and you can just, uh, jump to whatever, uh, comfortable for you, or you
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  got like equipment, uh, for exactly like you just said, yeah, you choose Raceroom
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  because you could run it on your PC.
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  Yeah.
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  Now, uh, uh, since, uh, Corona times, I do have a better PC, so I can
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  run every, uh, sim, uh, I, I like.
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  But, uh, yeah, it's, uh, back in those days, uh, like between 2012, 2013, when
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  they launched and yeah, uh, just, uh, yeah, Raytheon is free and sometimes I
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  buy a car or buy a track or, uh, yeah, in, in all those years, I have, uh, quite,
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  uh, an amount of cars, uh, collected.
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  Yeah, Raceroom got great tracks, also sometimes really cool leaderboard
• 28:31
  challenges and competitions.
• 28:34
  So yeah, I think that people can have a look at Raceroom.
• 28:38
  It's free to play also.
• 28:40
  That will be our recommendation.
• 28:42
  So maybe start some racing.
• 28:44
  And you can, and you can test drive every car you like before you buy it.
• 28:50
  Also, I, I will say, uh, every sim has to implement that.
• 28:56
  Uh, that idea so you can test drive every car before you buy I racing do it.
• 29:03
  Yeah.
• 29:04
  Uh, you mentioned before that you've been, uh, racing on sidewinder,
• 29:08
  then you changed to, to G29.
• 29:11
  Uh, did you upgrade your wheel or in pedals?
• 29:15
  So were you?
• 29:17
  You upgrade it.
• 29:17
  Yes.
• 29:18
  Uh, I got an upgrade, uh, not by myself, uh, it was, uh, last
• 29:24
  year, uh, December, uh, 23.
• 29:28
  Or was it 22?
• 29:30
  Oh, I don't know.
• 29:35
  It doesn't, it doesn't matter.
• 29:36
  Um, I got an upgrade by, uh, by my husband.
• 29:40
  Uh, he gave me, seriously.
• 29:48
  Oh!
• 29:51
  A Merusa, um, I believe V2 RS, uh, wheel.
• 29:58
  With an RAR nine, uh, base.
• 30:02
  And, uh, this year, uh, in the spring, I bought myself, uh, the,
• 30:08
  sorry, uh, Mozart, SRP, uh, pedals.
• 30:12
  Mm-hmm . And, uh, I do it now.
• 30:16
  Uh, I've raised for years in my, uh.
• 30:19
  Uh, uh, wouldn't do it yourself, uh, Rick, but this year, uh, a few
• 30:26
  months ago, I built myself, uh, I built, uh, a sim labs, uh, Rick, uh,
• 30:32
  I got from Yvonne and, uh, Sophie.
• 30:36
  That's nice.
• 30:37
  So you, you really upgrade your equipment.
• 30:39
  That's awesome.
• 30:40
  Um, How do you like it compared to what you had in 90s and, uh, how was it, can
• 30:46
  you compare this experience like you right now on high end equipment and you start
• 30:51
  on low end, uh, so how was it for you?
• 30:56
  Well,
• 31:00
  I've always said, uh, it's not the, uh, Equipment is the driver.
• 31:06
  Uh, I have to come back to that.
• 31:09
  Uh, especially when I'm now in the sim labs, uh, everything is 30.
• 31:14
  I don't have any, um, how do you say that?
• 31:17
  Um, uh, tolerances.
• 31:21
  Like a moving, everything is sturdy.
• 31:24
  Um, when I started with Quanturismo with a, uh, with a little community, I,
• 31:30
  uh, I have built myself a little case.
• 31:34
  Like, uh, it was almost a coffin and it was, uh, foldable.
• 31:41
  So it was a little flight case, something like that.
• 31:45
  In a weird shape in, uh, kind of we shape, uh, wet, uh, shape.
• 31:51
  And then I folded open, um, uh, clicked my, uh, steering wheel in it.
• 31:56
  And then I had my, um, yeah, ric, uh, in, in the bedroom.
• 32:02
  Uh, uh, pfi, uh, above me a little bit too high.
• 32:06
  I have neck drains, uh, observation.
• 32:10
  Uh, uh, yeah, that was for me at that time was enough for, uh, for the fun of racing.
• 32:20
  Not, um, um,
• 32:26
  how to say it, approaching it on a professional level, but just my
• 32:31
  racing wheel was in a secure spot.
• 32:34
  My pedals were in a secure spot.
• 32:36
  I used an old, uh, go karting seat that I could move with, uh, little.
• 32:43
  Pins and holes in a, in a case, in a fight case.
• 32:47
  So I had a, I had a seating position so I could race, but compared to that
• 32:55
  and what I do have now, yeah, totally different world, totally different
• 33:00
  world of sim racing and racing.
• 33:02
  Uh, yeah, I truly can say now I race for virtually and, uh, thing I did
• 33:12
  back then was like arcade gaming.
• 33:17
  That's great.
• 33:17
  You know, I really like that you started from really base equipment and you
• 33:22
  step by step improve it for the years.
• 33:24
  It's, uh, it's really great.
• 33:26
  Um, when people come to me and ask me like, uh, what should
• 33:31
  I get as a first equipment?
• 33:33
  I just telling them, uh, like you can, you should get the one in
• 33:38
  which you can efforts actually.
• 33:39
  So you can start from basic one and then move to more expensive if
• 33:43
  you got an opportunity for this.
• 33:47
  Maybe you can, uh, show, uh, something, uh, what I have, uh,
• 33:52
  previous on this, uh, SimRig.
• 33:54
  Uh, I had a rig built from scaffolding pipes.
• 33:58
  Mm.
• 33:58
  Um, just scaffolding pipes, uh, with a, um, not the torques, but a bu, um, keys.
• 34:07
  Mm-hmm . So I, I just ordered, I, I, I, I just ordered a load of, uh, pipes.
• 34:12
  I just ordered a lot load of, uh, those, uh, couplings, uh, built myself, uh,
• 34:17
  first, uh, uh, desk with a small triangle.
• 34:22
  I, uh, mounted a, a steering wheel on it.
• 34:26
  When I used my desk for home things and like, uh, uh, creating
• 34:33
  or, uh, drawing, then I just had a, uh, a desk with a L shape.
• 34:39
  And when I was going to race, my pedals were, uh, just in the
• 34:43
  corner, uh, 45 degrees, then I.
• 34:47
  Put the triangle in its position, uh, uh, uh, turns the, uh, the couplings,
• 34:55
  uh, uh, tighten the couplings.
• 34:57
  Uh, with triangle where my steering wheel was on it, and then I was able to race.
• 35:02
  So my desk was, uh, multifunctional,
• 35:08
  uh, then I, uh, then I changed that desk to a rig with the same
• 35:14
  pipes, same scaffolding pipes.
• 35:16
  Didn't, uh, any, uh, uh, additions to it.
• 35:21
  And like now for, I think the past year, uh, doing, uh, uh, I'm going to race.
• 35:30
  No, not going to go to it.
• 35:31
  I'm racing in this, uh, sim labs, uh,
• 35:37
  still scaffolding pipes for my money.
• 35:41
  My monitor stand is, uh, mounted to the, uh, SimLabs rig for my monitor.
• 35:48
  That's awesome.
• 35:48
  Uh, you know, also when I started in 2020, I had, uh, like custom made, uh,
• 35:54
  steel rig and when we switch from single screen, so single screen, I had it on desk
• 36:00
  actually, and when we changed to triple, uh, we just, uh, built with my husband
• 36:06
  out of the plain woods, uh, the table.
• 36:10
  So it was made for the triple it's, you know, it's really comfortable
• 36:14
  and it's, uh, really solid as it's, uh, that's a playbook.
• 36:18
  It's, um, you know, just like solid, solid, yeah.
• 36:24
  And you know, it's still working.
• 36:26
  He's still using, uh, this, uh, the stand for triple.
• 36:30
  It's also, so we move a couple of times, uh, bring it with us and
• 36:35
  it's still in one piece and working.
• 36:39
  I, I know I, I've been to, uh, Yon, uh, a few times, and I know Yon had that, uh,
• 36:46
  Samsung, uh, uh, uh, quiet war mm-hmm.
• 36:52
  Uh, screen.
• 36:54
  Yeah.
• 36:54
  That's, that's one thing I, I want to buy, uh, for myself.
• 36:59
  Mm-hmm . For, yeah.
• 36:59
  Just instead of the triple screen, just one monitor, uh, with a, uh, yeah.
• 37:06
  Uh, how do you say it?
• 37:08
  math curve, uh, in it and then, yeah, this one, uh, one addition
• 37:14
  I could use for this rig.
• 37:17
  Yeah, I think this, uh, monitor can be good also for PC performance because
• 37:21
  triple definitely ate a lot of, uh, resources from PC, from GPU and
• 37:26
  from CPU as well as all simulators.
• 37:29
  They, you know, pretty hard on single core, uh, from CPU.
• 37:34
  So yeah, I think that that's a good, uh, I'm, I'm, Not into that.
• 37:39
  I'm just not into that digital technical stuff.
• 37:43
  It's just, it has to work.
• 37:45
  Yeah, you know, you just have to take what's comfortable for you.
• 37:49
  So I know that some people are really comfortable with a single screen, so
• 37:54
  they just get used to, they got their own reference points on their monitors,
• 37:59
  and they just race with single screen.
• 38:02
  But for myself, I choose triple.
• 38:05
  Just because it gives you more angle, so when you race side by side in road
• 38:09
  races, it's really comfortable to use.
• 38:14
  Yeah, it's like, uh, with, uh, with single screen, uh, I try now to use, uh,
• 38:21
  sometimes the, uh, one of those picks.
• 38:24
  I try to use for, uh, for looking to left or right.
• 38:30
  So that's what I try, uh, in
• 38:38
  Assetto Corsa, it works a bit better than in IAC.
• 38:43
  But, uh, yeah, something I, yeah, and VR is also not.
• 38:49
  Something I, uh, I do want because I am afraid I, uh, I, I
• 38:57
  will hurt my eyes with the VR.
• 39:00
  I don't know.
• 39:00
  I don't like it.
• 39:02
  Yeah, VR is just, uh, you know, not for everyone because
• 39:05
  someone gets sick from it.
• 39:07
  Someone just dies.
• 39:09
  doesn't, uh, don't like that, uh, you know, getting a worm and, uh, around
• 39:14
  your eyes and, uh, you can sweat also.
• 39:17
  So for long races, I think VR is a not, not really good option.
• 39:21
  Um, yeah, once again, um, you have to go with whatever you'll be comfortable with.
• 39:29
  No, I prefer the real racing, a little bridge.
• 39:36
  Uh, can you tell me, you mentioned that you, uh, didn't like Alton Park
• 39:41
  in a racing, um, can you tell me what is your favorite combo in a racing and
• 39:46
  in a set of Corsa Compensione, like favorite car and favorite track also?
• 39:52
  Um, well, lately, uh, the past two years, I, uh, really liked, uh, solar also
• 40:00
  because I, uh, raised, uh, uh, with the fun cup in real life, uh, uh, that's
• 40:05
  why, um, I think the unit, the genetic GT four on solar, that's, that's for me, uh,
• 40:12
  uh, uh, Yeah, perfect combo, um, like in iRacing, uh, for example, I'm, I'm not,
• 40:22
  I'm not really into, uh, Formula cars, but, uh, the, the Formula, uh, the FF1600.
• 40:32
  On Lime Rock, uh, I also really like.
• 40:37
  Yeah, F Formula race, amazing.
• 40:41
  I like it.
• 40:41
  Um, my favorite one is, uh, Summit Point with this car.
• 40:45
  Um, but I think Lime Rock Park is, uh, you know, for the first time
• 40:48
  you Yeah, Summit, Summit, Summit and Lime Rock are really interchangeable.
• 40:56
  I think Lime Rock and Cemetery are really close to each other.
• 41:00
  Yeah, they're really close to each other.
• 41:02
  I agree with you.
• 41:03
  And I think that Lime Rock Park, for some people, when you're first time
• 41:08
  looking in the track, you're like, Oh, it's like pretty easy to to race here.
• 41:12
  Yeah.
• 41:13
  But when you get on the track, you're like, wow, it's it's
• 41:16
  really complicated in some places.
• 41:18
  And, you know, all the time you you say, Steering to the right many
• 41:24
  times on this track and, uh, it can be really challenging to keep a
• 41:28
  consistent lap times for like 20 laps.
• 41:32
  Yeah, I've did so many laps to, to get, uh, uh, the last part of the
• 41:37
  track, uh, to me, just the, the, the, the, uh, The long right hander.
• 41:44
  Mm-hmm . Uh, lime Rock.
• 41:46
  It's just, yeah.
• 41:47
  It took me so long to get it right.
• 41:49
  Um, yeah.
• 41:51
  With, with Summit, it, it is the final corner, uh, long time.
• 41:56
  I, uh, drove from Summit, but, uh, uh, uh, gear, uh, gearing down to
• 42:03
  mm-hmm . Third, uh, to third care in, in a ff six unit, but now I.
• 42:10
  Do it more in fourth gear and just, uh, yeah,
• 42:16
  how does it throw it into the corner?
• 42:19
  Yeah, I, I got it.
• 42:20
  Like you, um, bringing more speed into the, the last, uh, one.
• 42:25
  Yeah, that's definitely working.
• 42:27
  You know, that last corners on summit point and Lime Rock Park,
• 42:31
  I think they really familiar.
• 42:33
  So it can, if you nail the, the one on Lime Rock Park, you'll be, uh, okay
• 42:39
  with summit point as well, I think.
• 42:44
  All right.
• 42:44
  Um, so we're moving to near to the end of our show and, uh, let's talk about
• 42:51
  your plans and, uh, about your dreams.
• 42:53
  What are you planning for your future?
• 42:55
  Um, are you going to jump into real life racing?
• 42:59
  Um, and what are you planning to do in sim racing as well?
• 43:05
  Uh, no, my
• 43:11
  plans are really focused on real racing.
• 43:15
  Um, beginning of this year, uh, I said to myself, I want to get
• 43:19
  my racing license this year.
• 43:22
  Uh, and I, uh, ordered myself and, uh, uh, my personal logo.
• 43:29
  I don't.
• 43:31
  Oh, it's cute.
• 43:32
  Nope.
• 43:35
  This also with the Beatle with a film cup, Beatle and from Herbie.
• 43:40
  And uh, yeah.
• 43:42
  Um, I said to myself, I had to get my racing license this year and
• 43:48
  at the summer I didn't knew really if it was going to succeed or not.
• 43:53
  Uh, in September I was watched and, uh, visited, uh, max five.
• 43:59
  With, uh, Miaras, uh, for example, I visited Germany, then I saw, yeah,
• 44:06
  okay, motorsports is expensive.
• 44:08
  Okay.
• 44:09
  I know it.
• 44:10
  And then, uh, I came back from holiday, uh, mid October and I had some, um, uh,
• 44:19
  email contact with someone from Sanford.
• 44:22
  He has his own, uh, racing school, uh, booting up his, uh, company with that.
• 44:31
  And, uh, I thought I have to do it.
• 44:34
  I have to do it.
• 44:34
  It's still this year I have to do it.
• 44:37
  So, yeah.
• 44:37
  Um,
• 44:40
  some, some people know.
• 44:42
  And I have my racing license, EU EU racing license.
• 44:49
  Awesome.
• 44:50
  Congrats to you.
• 44:52
  So my, my goal, uh, with a, a racing license is to, uh,
• 44:59
  get into, uh, the film cup.
• 45:00
  Uh, starting, uh, my, uh, story with the Herbie and, uh, ending
• 45:07
  my ambitions to get in the funk of Beatles, like racing in Herbie.
• 45:14
  Yeah,
• 45:17
  it's, uh, if it's only one stint, if it's only one stint, uh, As Sanford or
• 45:25
  as far, but now I, I believe there's more, uh, more than that for me.
• 45:31
  And, uh, I, I have to do some networking.
• 45:35
  I have to do some stuff, but I really believe, uh, there's something
• 45:39
  to do in the most spots for me.
• 45:43
  Yeah, I hope all your dreams are going to come true.
• 45:46
  I also noticed that you got pretty, uh, earrings.
• 45:50
  Yeah.
• 45:50
  With beetles.
• 45:51
  Yeah, that's, uh, This, uh, also, uh,
• 45:59
  some DI, uh, DU crafting, I did myself.
• 46:03
  Oh, uh, based on the logo, based on the logo of the film cup.
• 46:08
  So, uh, that's awesome.
• 46:09
  Uh,
• 46:12
  so I have, uh, since a few, uh, since a year or two, I have a
• 46:17
  legend, graver and laser Kurt.
• 46:19
  In my, uh, shed, so I do, uh, some, uh, sometimes, uh, stuff like this.
• 46:26
  That's really cool.
• 46:27
  I love it.
• 46:34
  And I also, uh, what, what I also want to mention is like, uh, uh, sure.
• 46:40
  I want to, uh, stay in, uh, sim racing, uh.
• 46:44
  This year, uh, of no or no?
• 46:47
  Uh, last year, uh, with, uh, the Rachel for Mental Health, 2023,
• 46:52
  I raced with, uh, ASRA Racing.
• 46:54
  Mm-hmm . And this, this year in, uh, spring, I raced with, with,
• 47:00
  um, in the, I don't know, it was or
• 47:06
  And, uh, working with sim racing and real racing to work on consistency.
• 47:14
  Uh, even also, uh, learned me just consist, consistency.
• 47:20
  Now consistency is key.
• 47:24
  It's like, I, I'm not always the fastest, uh, like mostly I'm three to
• 47:33
  five seconds slower than the aliens.
• 47:36
  And that's, that's okay for me.
• 47:38
  But I, when.
• 47:40
  I drove with Astra in the race for mental health on solar or on Le Mans
• 47:48
  this year and I only made four or five mistakes in the whole event.
• 47:56
  Yeah, then I think my consistency is okay.
• 48:00
  And when I, when I can turn that into the real racing to be consistent
• 48:05
  there to, yeah, what I always said.
• 48:09
  That is like a drive round like a Jensen butternut and also that round
• 48:15
  that like a smooth driving style.
• 48:19
  Yeah, and I tried to Convert it to the real racing
• 48:27
  Yeah, I think as you said consistency is a key and I think with consistency
• 48:31
  also Speed will come to you because if you're consistent, you can actually
• 48:36
  analyze your laps and it's better to see mistakes which you're doing and overall
• 48:41
  it will help you to improve in the future.
• 48:45
  So yeah, I think this is the main thing in simracing and racing as well.
• 48:51
  Yeah, and now the focus is, uh, more on point for me, like I, I
• 48:55
  can look into the corners more in virtual, uh, in virtual racing.
• 49:03
  Uh, yeah, I think I found there are some, some tense, maybe half a second.
• 49:09
  So yeah, I think, I think, uh, I, I will have to try some
• 49:13
  new events this or next year.
• 49:16
  So we'll see.
• 49:18
  Yeah, and, uh, speaking about your racing career and, uh, that you're planning
• 49:22
  to do some networking, um, I think you can use SimRacing as well for this as,
• 49:27
  uh, you know, so many racing drivers in SimRacing, and, uh, maybe you can think
• 49:32
  to start streaming, start, uh, some socials as well, and, uh, you streaming.
• 49:37
  Streaming is something
• 49:41
  I don't like.
• 49:42
  Um, no, it's not, not like, but it's not in my, um, first, uh, um, um, first
• 49:56
  problems map I had when I called that it's like, when I go to race, yeah, I want to
• 50:02
  stream, but I'm not that aware or that.
• 50:06
  Uh, fonts to, uh, make it a streaming, uh, business, uh, it's, I want to race.
• 50:13
  Yes.
• 50:13
  I want to, uh, share my passion.
• 50:16
  I want to share my, uh, uh, goals.
• 50:20
  Yeah.
• 50:21
  But, uh, streaming with all the editing and, and, uh, Social media around.
• 50:29
  I, I, I think I'm or do all for it or not that into it.
• 50:35
  I don't know.
• 50:38
  So maybe you just, uh, don't have experience.
• 50:40
  Yeah.
• 50:41
  Um, I think if you're going to meet people, uh, who can help
• 50:44
  you, uh, even with streaming.
• 50:47
  So maybe one day, uh, you, you can jump into it.
• 50:50
  Yeah.
• 50:51
  And even, you know, if you go on to do any races and some racing, I think
• 50:55
  it will be really good to stream them.
• 50:57
  Uh, because you're going to find mm-hmm . Uh, your people
• 51:00
  who's going to support you.
• 51:01
  They're going to come to every Yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 51:04
  Every race.
• 51:05
  Yeah.
• 51:05
  To cheer for you.
• 51:06
  Mm-hmm . And that's great.
• 51:07
  Yeah.
• 51:08
  I have to ask,
• 51:11
  so maybe Yeah.
• 51:13
  And also you one, uh, said that I can help you
• 51:20
  . Yeah.
• 51:20
  God, you know, we guys, uh, really, uh, friendly and a welcome
• 51:24
  community and like everybody Yeah.
• 51:26
  That, that, that, and, uh.
• 51:30
  It, it doesn't have to be free, of course.
• 51:32
  Mm-hmm . And, uh, if people, uh, like to make, uh, digital
• 51:38
  photographs of the flu racing or indeed, uh, editing of videos, yeah.
• 51:44
  Who knows?
• 51:45
  But, uh, at this point I'm not into that.
• 51:50
  Mm-hmm
• 51:52
  . Yeah, I remember.
• 51:53
  I, I don't know.
• 51:55
  I, I don't also, uh, what my, uh, goal is with simulating.
• 52:00
  If I go to, uh, overriding, even if I go to, More, uh, tooling class, like
• 52:08
  in a race room now, or maybe more like Formula and IndyCar, I don't know.
• 52:17
  All right, so you're going to decide for your future, I'm pretty sure.
• 52:21
  And, you know, I remember when I started streaming and started to
• 52:25
  get into sim racing, I was, uh, You know, absolutely had no clue
• 52:30
  about streaming and how to do this.
• 52:32
  And, uh, you know, how to be, how to race at the same time and
• 52:36
  communicate with the community.
• 52:38
  Yeah.
• 52:39
  Um, it was a big challenge for me, definitely.
• 52:41
  And, um, for this years, I can tell you that, uh, you know, I just became
• 52:46
  more confident and, uh, feeling more comfortable with community.
• 52:51
  And, uh, it's actually a little bit weird when you're racing.
• 52:55
  Uh, and you're not streaming in the same time because I just get used to this.
• 52:58
  I get used to that.
• 52:59
  I got all the time, my people who support me in every races.
• 53:04
  Um, but sometimes, you know, I'm like, I'm practicing, uh, offline, not on stream.
• 53:09
  And it feels a bit weird.
• 53:13
  Yeah.
• 53:13
  Yeah.
• 53:14
  Well, like, uh, talk now, uh, uh, for an hour or so with,
• 53:19
  which you in a calm camera.
• 53:22
  I'm not used to cameras that much and, uh, getting comfortable
• 53:28
  by the minute with the camera.
• 53:30
  Yeah, who knows?
• 53:31
  Uh, yeah, I don't call it totally off.
• 53:35
  Uh, I don't, I won't do it, but, uh, it's not in my, uh, yeah, yeah.
• 53:43
  I don't know how to say it.
• 53:46
  It's not in my streets to, uh, to focus on that streaming stuff more.
• 53:53
  I'm more eager to focus on the sim racing and, uh, become quicker and
• 53:59
  more, um, uh, reliable, uh, as a team member for Astra racing or.
• 54:06
  Or another team, but, uh, and then, uh, and then go streaming instead of go
• 54:12
  streaming and still, uh, hopping around.
• 54:16
  And I first have to find my, um, my point of racing.
• 54:24
  Uh, hopefully with the, hopefully with the Jinekas, I really,
• 54:29
  uh, like to, uh, race them.
• 54:33
  But yeah, maybe GT3, maybe IndyCar, I don't know.
• 54:38
  Yeah, I fully understand you, um, and you're great on camera today.
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  You're doing amazing.
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  Thank you.
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  The lights, uh, turned off, uh, almost.
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  Half hour ago.
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  All right.
• 54:55
  Yeah.
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  Um, what would you say to women, uh, who are interested in join, uh, sim racing?
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  What would you suggest to them?
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  Uh, maybe like jump into any of the sports, uh, and what they, um, can
• 55:12
  do to get involved into sim racing?
• 55:15
  First of all, try it.
• 55:18
  Uh, yeah.
• 55:19
  Like, compared to 10 years ago, and now, uh, the community I
• 55:27
  found with the Diamond Drive Club.
• 55:29
  With a head, uh, discord and, uh, also with, uh, you know, it's in team
• 55:36
  and, uh, SR racing, um, there, there was so much to find, uh, as a female
• 55:42
  register, also as an LGBT racer.
• 55:45
  Um, there was so much to, uh, Uh, to discover, uh, what kind of, um, race
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  you like, what kind of, um, of not, not what kind of, what, what amount of, uh,
• 56:01
  uh, sim racing you want in your life.
• 56:04
  Uh, what, what time you have for it?
• 56:07
  What, what, uh, um, what do you want to put into it, in your new hobby?
• 56:15
  And to get out of it, uh, is it just gaming and just have fun for
• 56:18
  an hour a week, or do you want to make it more, uh, more your hobby?
• 56:24
  Uh, then I say, yeah, uh, try it.
• 56:27
  And there are so many, so many clubs, so many events, uh, so many, uh,
• 56:33
  companies you, you can, uh, attend, visit, uh, like, uh, formula one, uh,
• 56:41
  GT3, uh, GT3, uh, clubs, uh, if even on, on racing tracks, uh, itself like
• 56:50
  Nürburgring and Sandsport, you can.
• 56:52
  You can visit them, and they have a sim rig.
• 56:56
  So, uh, there is much to explore for everyone.
• 57:01
  Yeah, definitely.
• 57:02
  A lot of opportunities to jump into different simulators.
• 57:06
  Also, uh, if you don't have a rig, as you said, yeah, we got some
• 57:10
  sim racing centers, uh, where you can come and just try sim racing.
• 57:15
  That's awesome, yeah.
• 57:17
  Many ways to start, uh, to get, to be involved into sim racing, as you said.
• 57:25
  And also like, um,
• 57:29
  uh, try to, uh, ask, uh, people in your neighborhood, uh, maybe colleagues, uh,
• 57:36
  maybe, uh, uh, friends of friends, uh, who are into a sim racing, yeah, you can
• 57:43
  ask, uh, Hey, uh, I heard you, you, you did sim racing, you have a steering wheel.
• 57:48
  Uh, yeah, you, you can ask and.
• 57:51
  Like, like we have said, uh, it's a very welcoming community and, uh, someone
• 57:58
  who wants to share his patient too.
• 58:01
  So he said, maybe he says like, uh, Oh yeah, come on over, uh, have a drink, uh,
• 58:07
  come over this weekend and you can try it.
• 58:11
  So it's also, uh, lots of, lots of opportunities.
• 58:17
  Yeah, that's true.
• 58:18
  I absolutely agree with you.
• 58:20
  Um, and now we're just, uh, flew really fast with you.
• 58:24
  Uh, so thank you so much for taking your time and, uh, speaking with us.
• 58:28
  It was awesome.
• 58:29
  Yeah.
• 58:29
  You're great on camera.
• 58:30
  I'm going to say this once again.
• 58:33
  Thank you so much.
• 58:33
  Thank you.
• 58:34
  Yeah.
• 58:34
  Thank you guys for watching and till the next time with the neat talks.
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  Bye.
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