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- 0:00Speaker 1: Imagine finding the defining piece of evidence in a forty
- 0:04five year old like world famous triple homicide.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Right, And you don't find it in some sterile, temperature
- 0:10controlled police evidence locker.
- 0:13Speaker 1: No, not at all. You don't find it in a
- 0:15heavily guarded courthouse vault either. You find it, of all places,
- 0:19in a faded plastic ice chest.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Yes, shoved into the corner of a retired sheriff's dusty
- 0:25residential garage, literally right next to the lawnmower.
- 0:28Speaker 1: It's just it's mind blowing. How does a criminal justice
- 0:31system break down so profoundly that the absolute truth of
- 0:34a massacre has to be treated like contraband.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Well, it's a complete inversion of everything we're taught about
- 0:40the law. Right, We're taught to view the justice system
- 0:42as this self correcting machine.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Exactly like if an error is made, the appellate process
- 0:48or new evidence a modern science, Yeah, modern science will
- 0:51eventually calibrate it back to the truth. But what happens
- 0:54when the machine itself is the entity hiding the evidence.
- 0:57Speaker 2: That is the exact nightmare we are exploring in today's
- 0:59DA Dies. Yeah, we're examining an incredibly dense stack of
- 1:03primary sources for you all. Today.
- 1:05Speaker 1: We've got declassified investigative files, transcripts from preliminary hearings, private
- 1:10informant notes.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Notes that were literally hidden for decades, plus the profound
- 1:15legal earthquake of our recent Supreme Court ruling.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Right, and we know that a lot of you listening
- 1:20already know the broad strokes of the infamous nineteen seventy
- 1:23seven Girl Scout murders at Campscott in Oklahoma.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a legendary American cold case. So our mission
- 1:29today isn't to just you know, read you a Wikipedia
- 1:32timeline of the trategyue.
- 1:33Speaker 1: We really want to unpack the mechanics of a multi
- 1:36generational cover up. We want to understand the psychological concept
- 1:40of institutional inertia, how a.
- 1:42Speaker 2: State's highest investigative bodies will spend millions of dollars and
- 1:46literally decades of time protecting their own pride rather than
- 1:50catching the actual killers.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And we want to dissect exactly how a completely unrelated
- 1:55modern legal ruling accidentally handed the keys to this mystery
- 1:59back to the very peace people who were marginalized by
- 2:01the original investigation.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Because I mean to truly grasp the scale of the
- 2:05failure here We have to look past the boogeyman narrative
- 2:08that the state of Oklahoma sold to the public back
- 2:11in the late nineteen seventies.
- 2:12Speaker 1: We have to look at the undeniable forensic contradictions, the
- 2:15suppressed confessions.
- 2:16Speaker 2: And that terrifying reality that the people responsible didn't just
- 2:20vanish into the night. They stayed right there, completely insulated
- 2:24by the very badges sworn to catch them.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this because to understand the absurdity of
- 2:30the state's official narrative, you really have to first understand
- 2:34the physical geography and like the atmospheric pressure of the
- 2:37crime scene itself.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Yeah, the setting is crucial. We are in June nineteen
- 2:41seventy seven Locus Grove, Oklahoma.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Camp Scott. It's this four hundred and ten acre wooded
- 2:47retreat sitting directly on the Cherokee Reservation, about fifty miles
- 2:51east of Tulsa.
- 2:52Speaker 2: And the isolation of this place it's critical to the
- 2:55mechanics of the crime. One of the counselors actually described
- 2:58the drive into the camp as a cathedral.
- 3:01Speaker 1: A cathedral.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Because you take this winding country road, you
- 3:04pass the front gates and the ancient trees literally arch
- 3:07over the road. It creates this impenetrable green canopy that
- 3:11just blocks out the rest of the world.
- 3:12Speaker 1: It was designed to be a fortress of innocence for
- 3:15the two hundred and thirty young girls who arrived that summer.
- 3:18I mean this was pure magic.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And remember this was an era where the
- 3:22concept of stranger danger hadn't yet fully permeated the American consciousness.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Right, kids rode bikes without helmets, they stayed out until
- 3:29the street lights came on. But even by nineteen seventy
- 3:32seven standards, Camp Scott was exceptionally insulated.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Very structured. You had the Cookie Trail inspiration point. There
- 3:39was literally only one paved road in and one paved road.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Out, and the perimeter was just dense, unforgiving Oklahoma wilderness,
- 3:47crawling with ticks and chiggers. It was not the kind
- 3:50of place a casual drifter just you know, stumbles into.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Oh not at all, And into this cathedral arrive our
- 3:56three victims. They were assigned to Tent seven in the
- 3:58Kioi unit.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Yeah, we have eight year old Lorie Farmer, who was
- 4:01this fierce protector of her four younger siblings, and she
- 4:04was currently obsessed with the book Where the Red Fern Grows.
- 4:07Speaker 2: We have nine year old Michelle Does, a competitive soccer player.
- 4:11She actually made her mom promise to water her African
- 4:14violets before she left oh Man.
- 4:16Speaker 1: And then ten year old Denise Milner, a gymnast who
- 4:19was actually terrified to go to camp. She was crying
- 4:22as she got on the bus.
- 4:23Speaker 2: These are young, small, innocent children.
- 4:25Speaker 1: So walk us through the logistics of the night of
- 4:28June twelfth, because the weather plays a massive role in
- 4:31how the state later tried to explain the infiltration.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Right it does. It wasn't just a rainstorm. It was
- 4:37a quintessential violent Midwestern thunderstorm, the kind where the sky
- 4:43turns a bruised purple and the thunder just shakes the ground.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Because the storm was so severe, the camp leadership huddled
- 4:51the girls in the great hall for hours.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Right having them sing songs on the porch, desperately hoping
- 4:56the weather system would pass.
- 4:57Speaker 1: But it didn't. Eventually, long after dark, they had to
- 5:00march these girls back to their canvas tents and.
- 5:03Speaker 2: The girls are soaked, The paths are pure mud, and
- 5:05the woods are deafeningly loud.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Yeah, the sound of the wind thrashing the canopy and
- 5:10the torrential rain hitting the canvas tents.
- 5:12Speaker 2: It creates a massive auditory smoke screen.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Which makes the experience of counselor Michelle Hoffman that night
- 5:17incredibly chilling.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Oh, it's terrifying. She's out making the rounds in the dark,
- 5:22just trying to get the girls to quiet down and
- 5:24go to sleep, and.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Through all that chaotic noise of the storm, she hears
- 5:27something out by the tree line.
- 5:29Speaker 2: And it isn't a raccoon, It isn't a branch snapping.
- 5:33She later testifies, it sounded distinctly unnatural.
- 5:36Speaker 1: She has a flashlight with a red lens on it, right,
- 5:39and she points it into the dense trees.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Yeah, and here is where the psychological terror really sets in.
- 5:45Every single time she sweeps that red beam into the woods,
- 5:49the noise instantly stops.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Just absolute silence from that specific area exactly.
- 5:54Speaker 2: And the moment she turns the beam away, the noise resumes.
- 5:57She is experiencing the primal instinct of being hunted.
- 6:00Speaker 1: She knows something sentient is reacting to.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Her light, but the failure of imagination kicks in. She
- 6:05just cannot fathom that human predators are out there in
- 6:08the freezing rain.
- 6:09Speaker 1: So she eventually retreats to her tent, assuming her mind
- 6:11is playing tricks on her, which is a completely normal
- 6:15human reaction.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Totally normal. So we fast forward to six am the
- 6:19next morning. A different counselor is walking up the muddy
- 6:22dirt trail, just trying to beat the rush for a
- 6:25hot shower before the campers wake up, and she.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Looks down the path and sees sleeping bags lying directly
- 6:30in the middle of the trail.
- 6:31Speaker 2: The cognitive dissonance here is staggering. Her first thought is literally, oh,
- 6:36some sleeping bags must have bounced off the luggage truck.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Right She cannot process what she's actually looking at until
- 6:43she is standing right over them.
- 6:44Speaker 2: It's a protective mechanism of the brain. You are in
- 6:47a girl Scout camp. Your brain refuses to instantly register
- 6:51a massacre.
- 6:51Speaker 1: But the reality is that the bodies of Laurie, Michelle,
- 6:54and Denice had been carried out of ten seven and
- 6:56left on the trail.
- 6:58Speaker 2: They had been brutally beaten with blunt instruments, sexually assaulted,
- 7:01and strangled. Two of the girls were still zipped inside
- 7:05their sleeping bags.
- 7:06Speaker 1: But the ten year old Denise was found outside of hers,
- 7:09and there was clear evidence of a struggle.
- 7:12Speaker 2: I want to stop right here and talk about the
- 7:13physical logistics of this because it feels almost like the
- 7:17opening sequence of a horror movie, except it is devastatingly real.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Yeah, but looking at the mechanics of the crime scene,
- 7:24I am immediately struck by the sheer impossibility of a
- 7:27loan attacker.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yes, we are talking about an environment with two hundred
- 7:31and thirty people, The tents are clustered together.
- 7:34Speaker 1: The rain is loud, sure, but how does one human
- 7:37being enter a tent, subdue three girls, beat two of them,
- 7:41chase down a third who we know put up a fight, bind.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Them using multiple different types of complex knots right.
- 7:47Speaker 1: And then drag their dead weight in soaked sleeping bags
- 7:50nearly fifty yards through thick mud to the trail, all
- 7:54without a single counselor waking up.
- 7:56Speaker 2: That is the exact analytical pivot that the local law
- 7:58enforcement completely fail to make.
- 8:00Speaker 1: You're looking at the mechanics and realizing that controlling that
- 8:03much chaos in the dark requires coordination, It requires multiple
- 8:07sets of hands.
- 8:08Speaker 2: But when May's County Sheriff Pete Weaver arrives on the scene.
- 8:11He isn't looking at biomechanics or logic. He is looking
- 8:14at the sheer panic of an entire state, and he
- 8:17needs a villain immediately.
- 8:18Speaker 1: While the staff is frantically evacuating the surviving two hundred
- 8:22and thirty girls under this fabricated excuse of a water shortage,
- 8:27Weaver points his finger directly at a man who wasn't
- 8:30even on the radar for this crime.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Right, he names Jean le Roy Hart as the prime
- 8:34and only suspect.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Now I have to play devil's advocate for a second.
- 8:37Let's look at this through the lens of Aukham's razor.
- 8:40Is it possible that Weaver wasn't acting out of deep
- 8:43systemic corruption at this exact moment, but simply tunnel vision.
- 8:48Speaker 2: That's a fair question, because if you look at Geen
- 8:50Hart's resume, he is a terrifying guy.
- 8:53Speaker 1: He was a terrifying guy, which made him the perfect scapegoat.
- 8:56Jean Hart was a local Cherokee man who grew up
- 8:59about a mile from Camp Scott.
- 9:00Speaker 2: He was a former high school football star, which meant
- 9:03everyone in town knew his face. But more importantly, he
- 9:06was a violent convicted felon.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Years prior, he had kidnapped, tied up, and raped two
- 9:11pregnant women, abandoning them in the woods.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Were sent to the state penitentiary. But in nineteen seventy three,
- 9:17four years before the Camp murders, he escaped from the
- 9:19county jail.
- 9:20Speaker 1: He had been living as a fugitive, utilizing these survivalist
- 9:23skills to hide in the dense, cavernous wilderness of eastern Oklahoma.
- 9:28Speaker 2: So from Sheriff Weaver's perspective, you have a known convicted
- 9:32rapist who specifically targets.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Women, who operates in the woods, and who is currently
- 9:37hiding in the exact woods surrounding the camp.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Right, I can see how a small town sheriff completely
- 9:42out of his depth with a triple homicide would immediately
- 9:46lock on to Heart.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Absolutely. The initial suspicion of Heart is entirely understandable.
- 9:50Speaker 2: It's the subsequent weaponization of the justice system to force
- 9:54the evidence to fit Heart that exposes the corruption.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Weaver kicks off a ten month manhunt that becomes an
- 10:00absolute media circus.
- 10:02Speaker 2: You have hundreds of volunteers, state troopers, bloodhounds scouring these
- 10:07thick chigar infested woods in the miserable heat of an
- 10:09Oklahoma summer.
- 10:11Speaker 1: It costs the state millions of dollars, and jeene Hart
- 10:14completely embarrasses them. He ghosts them.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Yeah, he is supposedly attending local high school football games,
- 10:20showing up at funerals, just hiding in plain sight while
- 10:23the entire apparatus of the state trips over itself in.
- 10:25Speaker 1: The brush, and while the state is burning millions of
- 10:28dollars hunting a ghost in the woods. The preliminary hearings
- 10:32for the case begin to unearth details about what happened
- 10:35inside Camp Scott before the girls were killed.
- 10:38Speaker 2: And this is where the story shifts from tragic to
- 10:41honestly infuriating. The camp director had completely dismissed a series
- 10:47of escalating, terrifying warnings.
- 10:49Speaker 1: The failure of imagination we discussed earlier wasn't just On
- 10:52the night of the storm. Weeks before the camp officially opened,
- 10:56counselors arrived to set up and found a massive, disturbing
- 10:59effigy hanging in the trees.
- 11:01Speaker 2: It was an assemblage of sticks lashed together to perfectly
- 11:04resemble a man hanging by his neck.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Shortly after, they found a massive three foot slash in
- 11:09the back of one of the canvas tents, a cut
- 11:12large enough for a grown man to crawl through.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Hatchets began going missing from the union kitchens.
- 11:16Speaker 1: And then comes the absolute blaring siren that was ignored.
- 11:20Someone entered a counselor's tent, stole a box of hostess doonnuts,
- 11:23and left a handwritten note in its place.
- 11:25Speaker 2: The note was scribbled on a reporter's notepad. It looked weathered,
- 11:29like it had been carried around in a damp pocket for.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Days, and on the final page it explicitly stated, We're
- 11:36on a mission to kill three girls.
- 11:38Speaker 2: And the camp director threw it in the trash unbelievable.
- 11:41Speaker 1: She chalked it up to a teenage prank.
- 11:43Speaker 2: She literally threw away a written manifesto of a triple homicide. Now,
- 11:48the sources do note that in the context of nineteen
- 11:51seventy seven, teenagers driving out to the country to honk
- 11:55their horns and try to scare the girl scouts was
- 11:57a known nuisance.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Right. The director to this terrifying note onto her pre
- 12:02existing mental model of annoring local boys, but.
- 12:05Speaker 2: She missed the specific targeted malice of the wording and
- 12:09more Importantly, she failed to realize that the person who
- 12:11left the note had physically breached the inner sanctum of
- 12:14the camp.
- 12:15Speaker 1: And unfortunately that exact same confirmation bias. You know, mapping
- 12:19new evidence onto a pre existing theory is exactly what
- 12:22the prosecution did when they finally caught gene Hart and
- 12:25brought him to trial in March nineteen seventy nine.
- 12:28Speaker 2: The trial is basically a masterclass in forensic manipulation. The
- 12:31prosecution knew their case was highly circumstantial. No one actually
- 12:34saw Heart at the camp.
- 12:36Speaker 1: So they relied on the cutting edge science of the
- 12:38late seventies, which by today's standards is basically pseudoscience.
- 12:42Speaker 2: They brought in experts to testify that hares found on
- 12:45the duct tape used to bind the girls microscopically matched
- 12:49a Native American.
- 12:50Speaker 1: They tried to match heavily degraded sperm samples taken from
- 12:53Hart's prison underwear for months prior to the crime scene.
- 12:56Speaker 2: It was all smoke and mirrors to dazzle a jury, but.
- 12:59Speaker 1: The defense doesn't fall for it. Gene Hart is represented
- 13:02by a young, brilliant Native American attorney named Garvin Isaacs.
- 13:06Speaker 2: And Isaac's bypasses all the pseudoscience and focuses on one
- 13:10piece of absolute, undeniable physical evidence. Left at the center
- 13:14of the trime scene.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Right in the middle of ten seven, pressed into the
- 13:17canvas floor in the victim's blood, was a perfectly clear bootprint.
- 13:21Speaker 2: The OSBI had cast it and measured it. It was
- 13:23a size nine point five.
- 13:25Speaker 1: When Garvin Isaacs gets Geneart to stand up in front
- 13:28of the jury, he has him take off his shoes.
- 13:31Gene Heart wears a size eleven point five.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Is Isaac famously thundered at the prosecution. You can't change
- 13:36your fingerprints or shrink your feet.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Wow, it is a biological impossibility for a man with
- 13:41a size eleven point five foot to leave a size
- 13:44nine point five bloody footprint.
- 13:46Speaker 2: It's the ultimate mic drop. But it wasn't just the
- 13:49shoe size that lost the state their case. It was
- 13:52the undeniable proof that law enforcement was actively framing Heart.
- 13:56Speaker 1: This is where we talk about the sunk cost fallacy
- 13:59in law enforcement. Sheriff Weaver had spent ten months and
- 14:02vast resources chasing this man.
- 14:05Speaker 2: His political career was entirely dependent on Heart being the killer.
- 14:09So when the physical evidence didn't fit, Weaver's department decided
- 14:12to create evidence that did.
- 14:14Speaker 1: The state claimed that a couple of local squirrel hunters
- 14:16miraculously stumbled upon three different caves and the sprawling wilderness
- 14:20that contained evidence directly linking Heart to the.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Murders, evidence including a pair of glasses and some prison
- 14:25photographs of women.
- 14:26Speaker 1: But during the cross examination at trial, Isaac's gets a
- 14:29deputy sheriff on the stand under oath, and the deputy cracks.
- 14:33Speaker 2: He admits to the jury that he had actually seen
- 14:35those exact prison photographs sitting on Sheriff Weaver's desk before
- 14:39the murders even happened.
- 14:41Speaker 1: The Sheriff's department had literally taken items they confiscated from
- 14:44Heart years earlier, walked out into the woods and planted
- 14:47them in caves to secure a conviction.
- 14:50Speaker 2: And if we connect this to the bigger picture, this
- 14:52trial was never really about the forensic timeline. The sources
- 14:56illustrate that it was a powder keg reflecting the deeply
- 14:59fractured racecial reality of eastern Oklahoma.
- 15:02Speaker 1: To Sheriff Pete Weaver, who was a small time politician,
- 15:05a cattle rancher, a guy who ran a local drive
- 15:07in restaurant before getting a badge. Jean Hart was a
- 15:11personal insult.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Weaver was profoundly unqualified to handle a complex triple homicide,
- 15:17and Heart's ability to evade him for years made a
- 15:20mockery of his authority.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Weaver was so infuriated that he publicly stated he would
- 15:24shoot Jeene Hart on site, and he threatened to fire
- 15:27any deputy who brought the man in alive who.
- 15:29Speaker 2: Wasn't acting as a law enforcement officer. He was acting
- 15:32as a.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Vigilante exactly, and to the Cherokee traditionalists in the area,
- 15:36this was a terrifying echo of history.
- 15:39Speaker 2: The Native community had a long agonizing history of the
- 15:42state of Oklahoma acting as judge, jury, and executioner. They
- 15:47were used to the state manufacturing evidence and framing Native
- 15:50people to solve inconvenient crimes.
- 15:53Speaker 1: So when the prosecution presented a case built on planted
- 15:56photos and a physically impossible shoe size, the Cherokee community
- 16:00and ultimately the jury saw right through it.
- 16:02Speaker 2: The jury takes a mere five hours to acquit Gene
- 16:05Heart of all charges, five hours for the most high
- 16:08profile murder in state history.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Hart goes back to prison to serve out his previous
- 16:12sentences for the rapes, and three months later he dies
- 16:14of a massive heart attack while lifting weights.
- 16:17Speaker 2: He takes whatever he knew to the grave. But the
- 16:19critical takeaway from that jury isn't just that they believe
- 16:21the cops lied.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Jurors gave interviews afterwards stating they were absolutely unanimous in
- 16:26their belief that one person could not have physically committed
- 16:29this crime alone. The logistics demanded a group.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Which is the perfect entry point into the most mind
- 16:34bending noir thriller aspect of this entire deep dive, because
- 16:38while Sheriff Weaver was busy planting photos and caves and
- 16:41hunting his white whale.
- 16:42Speaker 1: There was a completely separate, deeply guarded shadow investigation happening
- 16:47right under his nose.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Enter Paul Smith.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I want to talk about this guy because his life
- 16:52is basically a Greek tragedy. Paul Smith was not some
- 16:56rookie small town cop back in the day. He was
- 16:59a hot shot vice squad detective for the Tulsa Police Department.
- 17:02Speaker 2: He was brilliant, he was connected, and he was dangerously honest.
- 17:06Speaker 1: In the early seventies, Smith blew the whistle on massive
- 17:09systemic corruption in Tulsa he testified before a grand jury
- 17:13against nineteen corrupt police officers, including the police commissioner, proving
- 17:18they were taking payoffs from gambling rings and prostitutes, and.
- 17:21Speaker 2: What was his reward for breaking the blue wall of silence?
- 17:25The department retaliated. They transferred this elite vice detective to
- 17:28the city dog Pound, making his life so miserable that
- 17:31he was forced to resign.
- 17:33Speaker 1: So by the summer of nineteen seventy seven. Paul Smith
- 17:35is a humbled, middle aged local city cop working in
- 17:38the tiny town of Locust Grove. He technically has zero
- 17:41jurisdiction over Camp Scott, which sits two miles outside the
- 17:44city limits.
- 17:45Speaker 2: But he is a trained observer. He knows how to
- 17:48watch people, and.
- 17:49Speaker 1: The day before the murders, Smith is sitting on a
- 17:52bench in town watching the buses full of excited girl
- 17:55scouts roll through Locust Grove on their way to the camp.
- 17:58Speaker 2: But his vice detective instincts kick in when he sees
- 18:01what is trailing the buses. It's a dark Dodge super
- 18:05Bee muscle car.
- 18:06Speaker 1: And Smith instantly recognizes the men inside. They are local criminals,
- 18:10guys in their late teens and early twenties, whom Smith
- 18:13has personally arrested multiple times for burglary and drug offenses.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Now, Smith knows that in a town like Locust Grow,
- 18:21you don't solve crimes with microscopes and fiber analysis. You
- 18:24solve them by knowing the ecosystem of the streets. You
- 18:27solve them with informants.
- 18:29Speaker 1: So, within three days of the murders, while the state
- 18:31is gearing up to hunt gen Hart, Smith's local teenage
- 18:35informants come to him with a highly specific, terrifying narrative.
- 18:38Speaker 2: They tell them that two of the men from that
- 18:40Dodge super Bee were seen walking north on the local
- 18:43highway just after daylight on the very morning the girl's
- 18:46bodies were found.
- 18:47Speaker 1: The men were barefoot, they were shirtless, and they were
- 18:49walking directly away from the geographical direction of the camp.
- 18:52Speaker 2: And the intelligence gets much darker. The informant tells Smith
- 18:57that one of those specific suspects showed up at his
- 19:00house just before dawn.
- 19:01Speaker 1: He was completely covered in blood and out of his
- 19:04mind on a combination of acid and alcohol.
- 19:07Speaker 2: When his terrified sister asked him what happened, he gave
- 19:10the classic panicked excuse, I killed a.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Deer, But then he sat down in the middle of
- 19:16her living room floor with a spoon and two metal
- 19:19pie pans.
- 19:20Speaker 2: And he went into a dissociative, obsessive loop. He just
- 19:23sat there, compulsively transferring water from one pan to the other,
- 19:27muttering over and over again. Those little girl scouts, those
- 19:31little girl scouts.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Oh my god. When his sister tried to intervene, he
- 19:34threatened to kill her if she ever spoke about it.
- 19:36Speaker 2: This isn't a vague rumor. This is a highly specific
- 19:39psychological trauma response observed by a direct family member.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Paul Smith takes this incredibly actionable intelligence and he hands
- 19:46it directly over to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation,
- 19:49the OSBI, the highest law enforcement authority in the state.
- 19:52Speaker 2: And what does the OSBI do with a lead about
- 19:55a bloody, confessing suspect. Absolutely nothing.
- 19:58Speaker 1: They are already finance vally and politically committed to hunting
- 20:01Gene Heart, so they ignore Smith completely.
- 20:04Speaker 2: But Paul Smith doesn't let it go. He waits, he
- 20:08watches the trial, he watches Heart get acquitted, and he
- 20:11watches the state declare the case essentially unsolvable.
- 20:14Speaker 1: And then in nineteen eighty Paul Smith makes a massive
- 20:17play he runs for May's County Sheriff on one specific platform.
- 20:22Elect me and I will solve the girl Scout murders.
- 20:25Speaker 2: The town elects him, He wins.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Imagine the anticipation he is finally the top law enforcement
- 20:31officer in the county. He walks into the Sheriff's office
- 20:34on his first day. He walks straight over to the
- 20:36filing cabinets to pull the massive, multi volume investigative file
- 20:41on the biggest crime in state history.
- 20:43Speaker 2: He opens the drawer. He finds a Manella folder labeled
- 20:45gene Heart.
- 20:46Speaker 1: And he opens it and the folder's empty. The drawer
- 20:48is empty.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Every single piece of evidence, every forensic report, every crime
- 20:52scene photograph has been completely removed from the building.
- 20:55Speaker 1: The outgoing administration literally looted their own archives to prevents
- 21:00from seeing the truth.
- 21:01Speaker 2: But Smith is a former vice cop. He doesn't need
- 21:04their files. He just rebuild the investigation from the street up.
- 21:07Speaker 1: He tracks down the passenger of that Dodge super Bee.
- 21:11It's a nineteen year old local guy named Buddy Bristol.
- 21:14Speaker 2: And Bristol is currently sitting in a state prison for
- 21:16exposing himself to children near the camp just months after
- 21:20the murders.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Sheriff Smith visits Bristol in prison. Repeatedly, he leans on
- 21:25him and eventually he breaks him. Bristol gives a full
- 21:29detailed verbal confession.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Bristol's confession is a masterclass in answering the how and
- 21:35the why of the crime scene anomalies.
- 21:37Speaker 1: He claims that he and three other men had been
- 21:39awake for three straight days on a massive bender of
- 21:42drugs and beer.
- 21:43Speaker 2: They are broke. They knew the camp was open, and
- 21:46they hatched a chaotic plan to sneak in and rob
- 21:48the adult chaperones in the tents, assuming they'd have purses.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Full of cash, but the plan instantly spiraled out of control.
- 21:55Bristol says they hit Tent seven.
- 21:57Speaker 2: He claims two of the men came through the back
- 21:59of the tent, where now a massive slash had been cut,
- 22:01wielding a crowbar and a roofing hammer.
- 22:04Speaker 1: They immediately struck Laurie and Michelle with blunt force to
- 22:07keep them quiet, but Denise, the ten year old, managed
- 22:11to bolt out the front flap of the tent.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Bristol says one of the men chased her out into
- 22:15the muddy woods, tied a nylon cord around her neck.
- 22:18And kept her alive as a hostage.
- 22:20Speaker 1: The confession maps perfectly onto the physical evidence. It explains
- 22:24why Denise was found outside her sleeping bag with ligature
- 22:27marks while the other two suffered blunt force trauma.
- 22:30Speaker 2: It explains the logistical ability to control three victims. Bristol
- 22:35claimed that something spooked them, an alarm clock went off,
- 22:37where someone made a noise and they panicked.
- 22:39Speaker 1: They dropped the girls in the muddy road, strangled Denise
- 22:42to finish it, and fled into the storm.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Bristol supposedly claimed they drove the Dodge super Bee to
- 22:48a nearby river and dumped the vehicle along with the
- 22:51weapons and their bloody clothes.
- 22:53Speaker 1: This narrative perfectly bridges the gap between the physical evidence
- 22:56and the juries. Believe in multiple killers, So.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Sheriff Smith takes this verbal confession directly to his local
- 23:03district attorney. He wants to offer Bristol a plea deal
- 23:07to get the confession officially in writing so he can
- 23:09bring murder charges against the other three men.
- 23:12Speaker 1: And the DA's reaction is stunning. Wait explain the legal
- 23:16mechanism here. How can a district attorney just refuse a
- 23:19sitting sheriff's primary suspect in a triple homicide.
- 23:22Speaker 2: It comes down to the doctrine of prosecutorial discretion. In
- 23:26the American legal system. Police investigate and arrest, but the
- 23:29district attorney holds the unilateral power to actually file charges.
- 23:33Speaker 1: If a DA refuses to file, the police are completely paralyzed.
- 23:37Speaker 2: And in this case, when Smith presents the confession, the
- 23:40DA literally jumps out of his chair, shases his finger
- 23:43at the sheriff, and says, hell no, as far as
- 23:46I'm concerned, the man who killed those girls is in
- 23:48his grave and that's where he belongs.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Why is it just stubbornness or is there a deeper
- 23:52illegal fear here?
- 23:54Speaker 2: It is the ultimate expression of institutional self preservation. Think
- 23:57about what would happen if the DA approve those tries charges.
- 24:00Speaker 1: The state would have to publicly admit that Sheriff Weaver,
- 24:03the DA's office, and the OSBI were entirely wrong.
- 24:07Speaker 2: They would have to admit they spent millions framing an
- 24:10innocent man while a group of local white teenagers butchered
- 24:15three children and walked free for years.
- 24:17Speaker 1: The resulting civil lawsuits, the perjury charges against the deputies
- 24:22who planted the photos, the utter destruction of political careers.
- 24:26It would have decimated the county government.
- 24:29Speaker 2: The DA used his absolute immunity to shut the door
- 24:32on the truth to protect the.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Institution, but Smith, to his immense credit, still doesn't stop.
- 24:37He goes back to the sister, the one who watched
- 24:39her brother compulsively play with the pie pans.
- 24:42Speaker 2: He finally convinces her to come forward. She agrees to testify.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Smith puts her and her husband in the back of
- 24:47a deputy's cruiser to drive them to the courthouse to
- 24:50make a sworn on the record statement.
- 24:52Speaker 2: And this next part sounds like a mob movie, but
- 24:55it is documented history. As the deputy's car is pulling
- 24:58up to a toll booth on the highway, a parked
- 25:00car suddenly blocks them.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Two men in sharp suits step out, flash their badges,
- 25:05and physically drag the witness and her husband out of
- 25:08the deputy's car.
- 25:09Speaker 2: And those men weren't mobsters. They were agents of the
- 25:12Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.
- 25:14Speaker 1: They take this terrified woman into a roadside room, separate
- 25:18her from her husband, and brutally interrogate her. They threaten
- 25:21her until she is physically shaking and white as a sheet.
- 25:25Speaker 2: Whatever they said to her worked. She and her husband
- 25:28immediately pack their bags, flee to Arizona, and refuse to
- 25:32ever speak to law enforcement again.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I have to pause here. How does a state agency
- 25:37legally operate completely out of bounds to intercept a local
- 25:41shriff's witness. The jurisdictional mechanics of that are terrifying.
- 25:45Speaker 2: Legally they can't, but sunctionally, when the highest investigative body
- 25:49in the state decides to act as a rogue entity,
- 25:52there is no one left to police them.
- 25:54Speaker 1: The OSBI recognize that Paul Smith was hours away from
- 25:57putting a sworn affidavit into the public record that would
- 26:00destroy their carefully constructed narrative.
- 26:02Speaker 2: They weaponize the authority of the badge to intimidate a
- 26:05citizen into silence.
- 26:06Speaker 1: And it breaks Paul Smith. The Greek tragedy concludes. He
- 26:11lost his first career fighting dirty cops in Tulsa, and
- 26:14he spends his final years in law enforcement fighting an
- 26:17impenetrable wall of badges in Mays County.
- 26:20Speaker 2: He leaves office in nineteen eighty four, exhausted, defeated, and
- 26:25fully aware that the men who murdered three little girls
- 26:28are walking the streets of his town, he becomes a farmer.
- 26:31Speaker 1: The case goes dormant for for over thirty years. The
- 26:34Girl Scout Murders become a ghost story a tragic Wikipedia page,
- 26:38until a completely new generation picks up his hidden torch.
- 26:42Speaker 2: We have to jump all the way to the year
- 26:43twenty twenty one. Enter Faith Phillips. Her background is fascinating.
- 26:47Speaker 1: She was a high powered corporate attorney who became completely
- 26:50disillusioned with the transactional nature of the law.
- 26:53Speaker 2: She leaves her practice, moves back to the Cherokee Nation,
- 26:56and becomes a creative writing teacher at Stigler High School.
- 26:58Speaker 1: She starts a podcasting with her students to teach them
- 27:01about narrative structure and local history, and they decide to
- 27:04investigate the rumors surrounding the Girl Scout murders.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Faith posts about the class project on social media, just
- 27:10looking for local anecdotes, and she gets a cryptic message
- 27:13from a stranger saying, you need to talk to someone
- 27:16right now.
- 27:17Speaker 1: That's someone is Paul Smith. He is now ninety seven
- 27:20years old. He is living in an assisted care facility
- 27:23during the absolute height of the COVID nineteen pandemic lockdowns.
- 27:27Speaker 2: He knows his time is short, and he is terrified
- 27:30of taking the truth to his grave. Faith manages to
- 27:33get clearance to see.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Him, and this frail, elderly veteran literally hands her his
- 27:38entire life's work. The hidden informant notes the names the
- 27:42confession he had kept boxed up for forty years. He
- 27:45passes away shortly after.
- 27:46Speaker 2: It is a profound, almost cinematic passing of the baton,
- 27:50and as soon as Faith takes possession of these files,
- 27:52it's as if it damn breaks.
- 27:54Speaker 1: She is contacted by an independent cold case investigator named
- 27:57Jennifer Morrison.
- 27:58Speaker 2: Morrison had been digging into the case years earlier, but
- 28:01had slammed into the exact same OSBI brickwall that Smith had.
- 28:05But Morrison brings a vital, terrifying new piece of evidence
- 28:08to Faith.
- 28:08Speaker 1: A literal deathbed letter.
- 28:10Speaker 2: This letter is the Lynchpin. It was written by a
- 28:13turokey man named David Sack. Sack had given the letter
- 28:17to a friend with strict instructions to mail it to
- 28:19Morrison only after he died.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Because he was terrified of retaliation from local law enforcement.
- 28:25In this letter, Sack details exactly what his nephew witnessed
- 28:29the night of the murders.
- 28:31Speaker 2: The letter independently corroborates the exact same names of the
- 28:34local men that Paul Smith had in his hidden files, But.
- 28:38Speaker 1: The letter adds a horrifying new layer of context. It
- 28:41identifies a fourth man, a known local pedophile, and it.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Reveals that these men had been sitting in a local
- 28:47bar a day before the murders, openly brogging that they
- 28:50had found a secret hidden spot in the dense woods
- 28:52where they could spy on the young girls taking cold
- 28:55showers at the camp.
- 28:56Speaker 1: It establishes premeditation, motive, and opportunity entirely so from gene Hart.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Armed with this insane corroboration, Faith does what any good
- 29:04citizen is taught to do. She calls the OSBI.
- 29:07Speaker 1: She reaches out to the special agent currently in chart
- 29:09of the cold case, assuming they will be thrilled to
- 29:11receive a deathbed letter containing specific suspect names.
- 29:15Speaker 2: But the response she gets is instantly hostile. The agent
- 29:18gets on the phone incredibly defensive in barks, who told
- 29:21you to call me?
- 29:22Speaker 1: He dismisses her completely, arrogantly, claiming they've run most of
- 29:26this down, which Faith knows is a mathematical impossibility because
- 29:30no one outside of David Sex's friend had ever seen
- 29:32the letter.
- 29:33Speaker 2: The institutional inertia is still alive and well. Forty years later,
- 29:37the modern o SBI agents are still protecting the narrative
- 29:41constructed by their predecessors.
- 29:42Speaker 1: So Faith pivots. She connects with the Tulsa County Cold
- 29:46Case Unit. This is a group of seasoned, retired FBI agents,
- 29:50veteran homicide detectives, guys who don't care about Mays County politics.
- 29:53Speaker 2: They come to Faith's dining room table, they look at
- 29:56her massive, interconnected murder board, and they realize she has
- 29:59cra the foundation of the case.
- 30:01Speaker 1: They work with her for six solid months. They utilize
- 30:04modern national databases and confirm that Buddy Bristol's nineteen eighty
- 30:08one confession about dumping the Dodge super B in the
- 30:10river was highly credible.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Why because the VIN number for that specific muscle car
- 30:16was never registered, tagged, or insured anywhere in the United
- 30:20States after the night of June twelfth, nineteen seventy seven.
- 30:23Speaker 1: The car literally vanished from the face of the earth
- 30:26on the night of the murders.
- 30:28Speaker 2: The Tulsa Cold Case Unit builds a massive, comprehensive presentation.
- 30:32They take it to the current Mayze County Sheriff, expecting
- 30:35to finally get subpoenas issued and grand jury's convened.
- 30:38Speaker 1: But history is a flat circle. After one closed door
- 30:42meeting with the Maze County Sheriff, the entire Tulsa cold
- 30:45case unit goes completely silent.
- 30:47Speaker 2: They stop returning Faith's calls. They dropped the investigation. The
- 30:51invisible wall comes crashing down again.
- 30:53Speaker 1: Faith is devastated. She feels like she is living Paul
- 30:56Smith's nightmare all over again. But then comes the break
- 31:00through that changes everything.
- 31:01Speaker 2: She gets a phone call from the son of Pete Weaver,
- 31:04the original sheriff who planted the photos in the caves
- 31:06the Sun.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Invites Faith over to his house, walks into his garage,
- 31:10and hands her an old plastic ice chest that his
- 31:13dad had hidden away for four decades.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Faith opens this cooler, probably expecting some old newspaper cliffings
- 31:19or trial transcripts. Instead, she finds the holy grail of
- 31:23the nineteen seventy seven cover up.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Inside this cooler are highly classified original OSBI documents, internal
- 31:30departmental letters, and most importantly, the original high definition crime
- 31:34scene photographs.
- 31:36Speaker 2: These are the exact files that were looted from the
- 31:38sheriff's office that Dave Paul Smith took over in nineteen.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Eighty and the photos. Faith looks at these original eight
- 31:45x ten glossy crime scene photos of the floor of
- 31:48ten seven, and she is stunned.
- 31:50Speaker 2: Right there, perfectly preserved in the blood on the canvas
- 31:53floor are two completely distinct, incredibly clear footprint side by side.
- 31:58Speaker 1: One is the size nine point five Vietnam era jungle
- 32:01boot with a heavy lug soul that Garvin Isaac's yelled
- 32:04about in court.
- 32:05Speaker 2: But right next to it, completely ignored by the state
- 32:08for forty five years, is the clear print of a
- 32:10smooth tennis shoe.
- 32:11Speaker 1: It is tangible, undeniable visual proof that legally dismantles the
- 32:16state's lone wolf narrative. It proves the jury was right
- 32:19there were at least two men standing inside that tent.
- 32:21Speaker 2: The physical evidence of the multiple weapons, the blunt force
- 32:24trauma from a hammer and a crowbar, combined with the
- 32:27ligature strangulation of Denise, aligns flawlessly with the photographic proof
- 32:31of multiple attackers.
- 32:32Speaker 1: Which in turn aligns perfectly with Buddy Bristol's suppressed confession.
- 32:37Speaker 2: But wait, why on Earth. Would a sheriff keep classified
- 32:40horrific crime scene photos in an ice chest in his
- 32:43garage for forty years?
- 32:45Speaker 1: Is this guilt? Is it treating them as morbid trophies?
- 32:49Speaker 2: Or is it the paranoid hoarding of a corrupt official
- 32:52who knew that if he destroyed them, he'd have no leverage.
- 32:55But if they stayed in the official record, his entire
- 32:58fabricated narrative would collapse.
- 33:00Speaker 1: I lean toward the latter. It is the ultimate insurance
- 33:04policy of a corrupt official. He couldn't burn them, perhaps
- 33:08out of a twisted sense of historical preservation, but he
- 33:10couldn't let another investigator see them.
- 33:13Speaker 2: And perhaps the most damning thing in the cooler is
- 33:15an internal letter written by Sheriff Weaver himself. In the letter,
- 33:19he explicitly acknowledges the contradictory footprint evidence he had, states
- 33:22He's going to push this single killer theory to nail
- 33:25gene heart anyway.
- 33:26Speaker 1: It is written proof of malice.
- 33:28Speaker 2: And once Faith has this photographic proof of multiple killers,
- 33:31she gets another massive shock. And this one comes from
- 33:34the very family that the state tried.
- 33:35Speaker 1: To execute for forty five years, the family of Jean
- 33:38Leroy Hart has maintained absolute silence. The cultural narrative in
- 33:43the true crime world was that Heart was a martyr,
- 33:46a framed Native American hero who was tragically victimized by
- 33:50a racist sheriff.
- 33:52Speaker 2: But then Jean Heart's own nieces, Kim and Megan Baker,
- 33:56reach out to Faith. They want to go on the
- 33:58record for the very.
- 33:58Speaker 1: First time, and they comple depletely dismantle the myth of
- 34:01their uncle. They sit down with Faith and tell her
- 34:04that growing up they were absolutely terrified of Geene Hart.
- 34:07Speaker 2: They confirmed the behind closed doors. He was a violent, controlling,
- 34:11abusive predator. The family knew he was not an innocent angel.
- 34:15Speaker 1: But here is the revelation that shifts the entire paradigm
- 34:18of the case. Kim Baker tells Faith that growing up,
- 34:21she overheard the adults in her family whispering the exact
- 34:24same names of the local accomplices that Paul Smith had identified.
- 34:28Speaker 2: The nieces presented theory that perfectly bridges the gap between
- 34:31the state's obsession with Heart and Paul Smith's hidden suspects.
- 34:35They believe Jean Hart was involved.
- 34:36Speaker 1: They believe he orchestrated the entire crime. Remember, he was
- 34:39a survivalist hiding in the woods.
- 34:41Speaker 2: He was likely the ones stalking the camp, slashing the
- 34:44tent and leaving the terrifying donut note because his psychological
- 34:48profile fed on terror and control.
- 34:51Speaker 1: But he utilized these local young white men who were
- 34:54out of their minds on acid and alcohol to carry
- 34:56out the physical massacre with him. He was the ringleader
- 34:59of a nightmare.
- 35:01Speaker 2: This hypothesis perfectly explains the synthesis of the evidence. It
- 35:04explains the multiple weapons, the multiple footprints, and Heart's proximity.
- 35:09Speaker 1: To the camp, But it also raises an incredibly important
- 35:12question about how modern forensic science is actively manipulated to
- 35:16serve institutional narratives.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Because in twenty twenty two, a Hulu documentary on the
- 35:20case revealed a major update. The current Mays County Sheriff,
- 35:24Mike Reid, had the OSBI run modern PCR DNA testing
- 35:28on a heavily degraded seamen stain and a single hair
- 35:31found at the crime scene.
- 35:33Speaker 1: The result was a partial match that pointed towards gene
- 35:35Hart's family lineage.
- 35:37Speaker 2: And Sheriff Reid immediately goes on television, takes a victory lap,
- 35:40and essentially declares the case closed.
- 35:42Speaker 1: He tells the public that this partial DNA match proves
- 35:45Heart did it and therefore excludes all other suspects, which,
- 35:49if we look at the math, is logically absurd.
- 35:51Speaker 2: It is entirely mathematically flawed. A partial DNA match placing
- 35:56Heart inside the tent does not mean.
- 35:58Speaker 1: He was alone, means he was present, which perfectly aligns
- 36:02with the niece's theory of him being the ring leader.
- 36:04Speaker 2: But a DNA match for Heart does absolutely nothing to
- 36:08explain the tennis shoe footprint right next to his boot.
- 36:11It does nothing to explain the crowbar and the hammer.
- 36:14Speaker 1: It does nothing to exclude Buddy Bristol or the pedophiles
- 36:17named in the deathbed letter.
- 36:18Speaker 2: It's exactly like finding a single fingerprint of a known
- 36:21bank robber on a vault door and then ignoring the
- 36:24high definition security camera footage showing three other guys carrying
- 36:28bags of cash out the back.
- 36:29Speaker 1: The state is using the veneer of modern unquestionable science
- 36:33to retroactively validate a nineteen seventy seven prejudice. They're using
- 36:37a sliver of truth to slam the door on investigating
- 36:40the accomplices.
- 36:41Speaker 2: And Sheriff Reed eventually had to publicly backtrack on his
- 36:44claim that the case was definitively closed, but the pr
- 36:47damage was already done. The state had once again protected
- 36:50its legacy.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Faith realized a deeply depressing truth. As long as the
- 36:56State of Oklahoma held legal jurisdiction over this case, they
- 36:59would never ever opened the books to implicate local citizens
- 37:03and admit to a forty five year cover up.
- 37:05Speaker 2: But the earth under the Oklahoma legal system was about
- 37:08to literally shift thanks to a massive, completely unrelated legal earthquake.
- 37:13Faith realizes she doesn't need the State of Oklahoma's permission anymore.
- 37:17Speaker 1: There is a new sheriff in town. Let's dig into
- 37:20the mechanics of this, because it is fascinating.
- 37:22Speaker 2: We have to look at the monumental twenty twenty Supreme
- 37:25Court decision McGirt to the Oklahoma This is one of
- 37:27the most consequential rulings in Native American legal history.
- 37:30Speaker 1: The case actually stemmed from a completely unrelated criminal, Jimsey mcgert,
- 37:34who argued that the State of Oklahoma lacked jurisdiction to
- 37:37prosecute him because his crimes occurred on the Muscogee Creek Reservation,
- 37:41which he argued Congress had never officially disestablished and.
- 37:45Speaker 2: The Supreme Court, in a five to four decision authored
- 37:48by Justice Gorsic, looked at the history and said, you
- 37:52know what, He's right, A promise is a promise.
- 37:55Speaker 1: They ruled that the United States government had never actually
- 37:58disestablished the historic Native American reservations in eastern Oklahoma.
- 38:02Speaker 2: The implications were staggering. The ruling declared that roughly forty
- 38:06three percent of the entire state of Oklahoma, including major
- 38:10cities like Tulsa and small towns like Locust Grove, technically
- 38:14remains sovereign Native American reservation land.
- 38:17Speaker 1: So think about the implications of that for a second.
- 38:19It means the law isn't a static, unmoving thing. Because
- 38:23of McGirt, the state of Oklahoma literally overnight lost legal
- 38:27jurisdiction over crimes involving Native Americans that occurred on that land.
- 38:31Speaker 2: Jurisdiction instantly transferred from the state to the federal government
- 38:35and tribal law enforcement. And guess exactly where Camp Scott
- 38:38is located.
- 38:39Speaker 1: It sits squarely within the historic boundaries of the sovereign
- 38:42Cherokee Nation exactly.
- 38:43Speaker 2: So Faith Philips realizes she has a legal loophole the
- 38:46size of the Grand Canyon She doesn't need to beg
- 38:48the OSBI to reopen the case.
- 38:50Speaker 1: She doesn't need to fight the Mays County sheriff or
- 38:53the local DA. She takes her massive box of files,
- 38:57Paul Smith's hidden informant notes, the death letter, and the
- 39:01ice Chess photos showing the two footprints, and she drives
- 39:04straight to the headquarters of the Cherokee Nation Marshals.
- 39:07Speaker 2: The historical poetry at this moment is just breathtaking. Think
- 39:10back to nineteen seventy seven. Sheriff Pete Weaver terrorized the
- 39:15Cherokee community.
- 39:16Speaker 1: He threatened to execute their citizens in the woods without
- 39:18a trial. He manipulated evidence, planted photos, and weaponized the
- 39:22entire justice system against them to fuel a racial divide.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Now, forty five years later, a Supreme Court ruling has
- 39:30stripped that very county of its power and handed the
- 39:33keys to the cold case vault directly to the sovereign
- 39:36Cherokee Nation's own justice system.
- 39:39Speaker 1: The very people who were marginalized and framed by the
- 39:41original investigation now legally hold the sole power to correct it.
- 39:45Speaker 2: And what do the Cherokee Marshals do when Faith brings
- 39:48them the files? They actually listen. They don't try to
- 39:51protect Weaver's legacy.
- 39:52Speaker 1: They sit down with faith, They go through the ice
- 39:54chess photos, they read the deathbed letter, and they agreed
- 39:58to form a dedicated, act ative task force to review
- 40:01the entire forty five year old case. They respect the
- 40:05evidence instead of burying it.
- 40:06Speaker 2: Which brings us to the core truth of this entire
- 40:09deep dive. This story forces us to reevaluate what justice
- 40:13actually means in a cold case.
- 40:15Speaker 1: Many of the suspects Paul Smith identified are now dead.
- 40:19Buddy Bristol is dead. You cannot put handcuffs on a ghost.
- 40:22Speaker 2: But justice isn't always about a prison sentence. Justice is
- 40:25about acknowledging the empirical truth on the public record.
- 40:28Speaker 1: It's about setting history straight.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Precisely, as Jeane Hart's niece Kim Baker so profoundly stated
- 40:35when she broke her family's silence, I am first human.
- 40:38Speaker 1: She chose the agonizing truth over protecting her own family's mythology.
- 40:42Because the families of Laurie, Michelle, and Denise deserve the
- 40:45whole story.
- 40:45Speaker 2: They don't deserve a politically convenient half truth manufactured by
- 40:49a corrupt sheriff and propped up by a defensive state agency.
- 40:52Speaker 1: Think about the incredible trajectory we've just traveled. Three innocent
- 40:56girls murdered in a sanctuary, a botched, biased investigation that
- 41:01panicked and focused on a lone wolf.
- 41:04Speaker 2: A brilliant whistleblowing cop who knew the exact truth but
- 41:08was silenced, threatened, and run out of town by his
- 41:11own peers.
- 41:12Speaker 1: A literal ice chest full of classified exonerating evidence hidden
- 41:16next to a lawnmower for decades.
- 41:17Speaker 2: And a Supreme Court ruling that shifted the very borders
- 41:20of a state to finally allow that truth to see
- 41:23the light of day.
- 41:24Speaker 1: It forces us to deeply examine the institutions we inherently
- 41:27trust to protect us. The OSBI and local law enforcement
- 41:31in the late seventies and eighties expended vastly more energy
- 41:34protecting their own reputations than they did hunting the men
- 41:36who butchered children.
- 41:37Speaker 2: They allowed dangerous, violent men to walk free in their
- 41:40own community simply because admitting a catastrophic mistake was too
- 41:44damaging to their bureaucratic egos.
- 41:46Speaker 1: And I want to leave you with haunting final thought
- 41:47to mullover as we end this deep dive, think about
- 41:50those accomplices.
- 41:51Speaker 2: If Paul Smith's informants, Buddy Bristol's confession and that deathbed
- 41:56letter are right, and the physical evidence heavily sekks jest
- 42:00they are. These young men didn't flee to a remote.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Island, they didn't vanish into thin air. They stayed right
- 42:07there in eastern Oklahoma for forty five years. They have
- 42:10bought groceries at the local market. They've pumped gas at
- 42:14the corner station.
- 42:15Speaker 2: They've walked the exact same small town streets, perhaps even
- 42:18passing the families whose lives they completely destroyed.
- 42:21Speaker 1: They have lived full, long lives, entirely shielded by a
- 42:25law enforcement system that was too proud to admit it
- 42:28made a mistake.
- 42:29Speaker 2: What does it do to the very soul of a
- 42:31town when the monsters are hiding in plain sight, protected
- 42:34by the very badges sworn to catch them.
- 42:36Speaker 1: And it makes you wonder if the investigative machine was
- 42:39this deeply broken in Locust Grove, how many other towns
- 42:43out there are looking at a clean record, completely blind
- 42:46to the killers hiding just beneath the surface.
- 42:48Speaker 2: It's a chilling reminder that sometimes the darkest secrets aren't
- 42:51buried in the woods. They are buried in the filing cabinets.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on this deep dive. Keep
- 42:57questioning the narratives you are handed. We'll see you next time.