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Hour 3: Mamdani's approval rating · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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Speaker 1: So, Larry, we had a poll a Siena Pole on
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Speaker 1: the gubernatorial race here in New York State. Good news
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Speaker 1: for Blakeman. He's only ten points behind. He's in better
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Speaker 1: shape than Zelden was at the same point when he
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Speaker 1: was running against the brand new governor Hokele, who replaced
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Speaker 1: Andrew Evilized Cuomo. Eventually he would lose by six percentage
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Speaker 1: point Selden versus Hkeel. So that's a good sign for
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Speaker 1: Team Blakeman. The other sign that comes out of the
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Speaker 1: Sienna New York poll is that clearly both sides want
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Speaker 1: to make the campaign Hokeel married to Mandami. That's what
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Speaker 1: Blakeman and the Republicans are pounding away. And obviously Hokel
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Speaker 1: is pounding away Blakeman married to Donald Trump. So let
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Speaker 1: me break down the poll results for Zoran Mandami first,
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Speaker 1: who announced yesterday he'll be going away for a week
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Speaker 1: on a vacation just somewhere upstate New York. Now, anybody
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Speaker 1: in New York knows when people say upstate New York, Larry,
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Speaker 1: they could mean north of the Bronx, north of west Chester,
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Speaker 1: north of the mid Hudson Valley, like starting at Poughkeepsie,
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Speaker 1: the end of the metro line. Well, who knows. Maybe
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Speaker 1: up in the Adirondecks, where no people live at all,
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Speaker 1: they've all left. But for those in New York City
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Speaker 1: who thought that Zorhan Mandami has taken a hit on
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Speaker 1: his favorability, think again. Sixty nine percent of those in
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Speaker 1: New York City have a favorable impression of this new mayor,
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Speaker 1: twenty four percent an unfavorable. But then when you go
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Speaker 1: to the suburbs, obviously you're talking Long Island, you're talking
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Speaker 1: Nassa or Suffolk, west Chester surrounding suburbs, he has an
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Speaker 1: unfavorability of sixty percent, a favorability of thirty four percent.
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Speaker 1: And then when you go to upstate wherever you define
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Speaker 1: that as being, let's just say it's north, his acceptability
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Speaker 1: is forty one percent. His unacceptability is forty six percent.
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Speaker 1: So overall, when you look statewide, Zorhanmandami has a favorable
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Speaker 1: rating because it's weighted towards New York City, that's where
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Speaker 1: most of the vote is forty seven percent favorable, forty
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Speaker 1: four percent unfavorable. So this tells teen blakeman Man, gotta
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Speaker 1: get into the suburbs, gotta get up state gotta marry Hokul, Tomandami.
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Speaker 1: They're like, you know, Siamese twins. In terms of Blakeman,
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Speaker 1: his problem is is that Trump is sixty percent unfavorable
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Speaker 1: throughout the state thirty eight percent unfavorable. So that's why
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Speaker 1: you're going to see Hokal who's sitting on a pile
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Speaker 1: of cash. Every every ad will be whether she does
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Speaker 1: AI or real ads, it'll be uh Blakeman with Trump.
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Speaker 1: But I would say overall, at this point in the race,
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Speaker 1: when not even at Labor Day, not bad for Bruce Blakeman.
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Speaker 1: But if you're in New York City and thinking that
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Speaker 1: Jaran Mandani has been hurt, he's doing better than ever before,
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Speaker 1: even though we're only like seven months into his mayoralty.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Republican point of view on all of this
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Speaker 2: is New York's not winnable for Blakeman. I think that
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Speaker 2: they have kind of given up on Blakeman. It's a
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Speaker 2: shame to say. I like Bruce Blakeman a whole lot,
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Speaker 2: but he's going to hit his head at about forty
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Speaker 2: four percent is probably the highest he could ever get.
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Speaker 2: And it's just the state. It's the state of New
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Speaker 2: York and it's the city. The city's even worse. But
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Speaker 2: Mam Donnie. The Republicans nationally love to use mom Donnie.
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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, You've heard them over and
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Speaker 2: over call all of the other DSA candidates all across
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Speaker 2: the country, many Mam Donni's. They want to hook everything
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Speaker 2: to him. He is the boogeyman nationally. He does not
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Speaker 2: pull well nationally. What's funny about it, though, because we
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Speaker 2: think mam Donni, Mom Danni, mom Donni, he's everything. You know, Oh,
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Speaker 2: we got to talk about him all the time. Yet
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Speaker 2: when Gallup went out to do a poll, they wrote,
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Speaker 2: a significant portion of the national electorate does not know
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Speaker 2: about Mondan enough about mom Donni to form an opinion.
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Speaker 2: So outside of our bubble, mom Donni for most people
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Speaker 2: is irrelevant. Socialism, however, which is mom Donnie. Now, he's
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Speaker 2: the face of in America, extremely unpopular among independents and Republicans,
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Speaker 2: so they will continue to use mom Donni outside of
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Speaker 2: the state. Inside of the state. All the numbers you said,
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Speaker 2: some of them are surprising because he's so unpopular in
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Speaker 2: some areas. But across the country, Mam Donni is not
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Speaker 2: that popular. As a matter of fact, his popularity is
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Speaker 2: down around Long Island about thirty eight percent nationally for
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Speaker 2: those who know something about him, So he's to be
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Speaker 2: used by the Republican Party over and over and over again.
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Speaker 2: But with those numbers you gave, what's surprise him to me, Curtis,
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Speaker 2: And you can tell me because you know New York
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Speaker 2: politics better than I do. Why does hokl tie herself
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Speaker 2: to mam Donni so much? If he doesn't play well
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Speaker 2: outside the city.
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Speaker 1: To get the younger vote, that's really the key, and
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Speaker 1: Mandami has a lock on the younger vote all over
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Speaker 1: the state. When you break out, they'd call it break out.
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Speaker 1: These stats, so even in places like Nassau and Suffolk,
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Speaker 1: where he's doing poorly, as you pointed out, he only
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Speaker 1: is thirty four percent favorable sixty percent unfavorable. That thirty
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Speaker 1: four percent is mostly people who are eighteen to forty,
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Speaker 1: So basically gen Z's and some of the millennials. An
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Speaker 1: upstate he does a little better, but basically there's nobody
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Speaker 1: left up to date, they've all left. But just to
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Speaker 1: give you some other facts, statewide, eighty percent of black
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Speaker 1: people in this survey, like Mandami, seventy two percent of young,
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Speaker 1: so he's actually doing better. In the African American community.
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Speaker 1: Sixty percent of sixty six percent of Jews say xnay
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Speaker 1: on Mondami. They hate him, but he still gets thirty
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Speaker 1: percent of the Jews and those who are fifty five plus,
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Speaker 1: that's a lot of people who listen to us at
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Speaker 1: talk radio. Fifty one percent of them are opposed as
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Speaker 1: or on. Thirty eight percent don't have a problem with him.
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Speaker 1: So statewide he's down, but citywide, if you're hoping to
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Speaker 1: knock him off his horse, he's never done better.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because across the country, Mam Donni and
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Speaker 2: socialism among African Americans extremely low. They're not buying into
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Speaker 2: it at all. And that's a big problem for the
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Speaker 2: Democratic Party because they need the African American vote and
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Speaker 2: if they run DSA candidates, they ain't gonna get them.
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Speaker 2: And so there's a real problem across the country. So
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Speaker 2: I think most Republicans across the country say thank you
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Speaker 2: to Mam Donni, thank you for bringing this to our constry.
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Speaker 1: Democrats say thank you to Donald Trump, who's so low
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Speaker 1: in the polls, because they're going to tie every Republican
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Speaker 1: to Donald Trump. And in those areas where it's a
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Speaker 1: toss up, and we got a few toss ups in
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Speaker 1: our own area that could end up hurting the Republicans
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Speaker 1: unless at pricey gasoline goes down, groceries go down, and
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Speaker 1: somehow we come to some resolution with the war with Iran.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump can improve his numbers, Socialism cannot improve its numbers.
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Speaker 2: So I do believe the Republicans have an advantage here
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Speaker 2: only because remember in the midterm elections, and I preach
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Speaker 2: this all the time because it's been preached to me
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Speaker 2: by people who know a lot more about politics. Midterm elections,
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Speaker 2: for the most part, are about anger. It's about motivating
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Speaker 2: your base with anger, because otherwise they just won't vote.
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Speaker 2: So if there is a boogeyman and for the you're right,
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Speaker 2: for the Democrats, it's Donald Trump, but that may change.
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Speaker 2: Do they hate Donald Trump more than Republicpuplicans hate socialism?
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Speaker 2: And if so, the deciding factor, let's just say it's
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Speaker 2: even right. The deciding fag or factor would be independence,
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Speaker 2: and independence hates socialism a whole lot more than they
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Speaker 2: hate Donald Trump. Donald Trump's up at around forty percent
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Speaker 2: with independence. Socialism is down at seventeen percent. So that's
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Speaker 2: why you hear Republicans talking about it all the time.
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Speaker 2: That's why we've been talking about it because it is
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Speaker 2: now nationwide. So it's going to be really interesting because
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Speaker 2: in a place like New York City, socialism is positive.
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Speaker 2: So you may not understand what's going on around the country,
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Speaker 2: but those numbers that you gave in New York well fascinating.
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Speaker 1: To give you an example, in New York City, fifty
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Speaker 1: one percent of those surveyed support the DSA. That's fifty
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Speaker 1: one percent. That's what Jorhan got in the general election
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Speaker 1: against Andrew evilized Cromo on myself, and yet his acceptability
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Speaker 1: goes beyond that, even though DSA is low because of
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Speaker 1: his smiling way, because of his beguiling way. You got
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Speaker 1: that Chris beguiling. Let's get the quiet storm on that
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Speaker 1: beguiling way. I've heard the word. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: it means. Okay, I couldn't tell you that the word.
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Speaker 1: It's multi syllabic, I get it. But the point is
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Speaker 1: is that smile. Just like we talked about with Levitt
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Speaker 1: leaving as the spokesperson for the Trump White House, she
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Speaker 1: can scorch you, she can go score shirts. But he
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Speaker 1: does it with a smile, l sied, many of the
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Speaker 1: people said, and ultimately he won because he'd always have
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Speaker 1: a smile, whereas hung in Wisconsin didn't always have a smile. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so maybe the new kind of politics is no matter
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Speaker 1: who you are, all right for left somewhere in between
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Speaker 1: his smile singing in the rain? Remember that that famous
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Speaker 1: Who is that not Grace Kelly? A gene Kelly singing
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Speaker 1: in the ring.
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Speaker 2: all I'm gonna tell you is about there was a
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Speaker 2: snake found in a football helmet that the guy actually
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Speaker 2: put on, and then there was a piranha found in
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Speaker 2: a creek on the east coast of the United States.
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Speaker 2: All right, up, a little frightening stories to tell you about.
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Speaker 2: One comes to us from Arkansas. Well, you know, it's
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Speaker 2: the time of year at football. The high schools are
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Speaker 2: out practicing already. Football is out practicing already, and this
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Speaker 2: is a high school in monta Wall, Arkansas. So practice
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Speaker 2: is going on. All the kids put on their helmet.
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Speaker 2: One of the kids felt something wriggling in his helmet.
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Speaker 2: He already had it on, and it was just wriggling
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Speaker 2: all around. And it turns out he took it off
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Speaker 2: to take a look and it was a two foot long,
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Speaker 2: venomous cotton mouth snake. You know how they have the
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Speaker 2: padding and the helmet, there's a little bit area before
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Speaker 2: the hard part and they have the patty. He got
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Speaker 2: up in between there, luckily enough, so he was separated
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Speaker 2: from the kid's head. You could see, I've seen the
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Speaker 2: pictures of it. You could see his face, so he
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Speaker 2: could have bit the kid if he wanted to. But
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Speaker 2: the kid took it off, saw it was a cotton mouth.
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Speaker 2: Apparently nobody got really upset, I guess because it's Arkansas.
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Speaker 2: They thought it was actually pretty cool. The kid went
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Speaker 2: back to practice. They called animal control and Ned Davis
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Speaker 2: showed up, and Ned Davis is a good old boy.
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Speaker 3: The cotton out, in my opinion, is probably the second
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Speaker 3: most venomous snake here in Arkansas. I would say the
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Speaker 3: rattlesnake is probably the number one. If this snake would
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Speaker 3: have bit the child and probably would have been very fatal.
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Speaker 2: It would have been very fatal.
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Speaker 1: I have something not quite as extreme. So I'm trying
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Speaker 1: out freshman football Brooklyn Prep Jesuit High School, and they
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Speaker 1: give me a leather helmet like Gerald Ford wore at
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Speaker 1: the University of Michigan. WI judge, a plastic faceguard. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: I started doing well enough to earn the right down,
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Speaker 1: you know, plastic helmet normally you would have with a
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Speaker 1: normal faceguard. And there were yellow jackets inside wasps.
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Speaker 2: That's worse.
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Speaker 1: So I put it on my head and I'm wondering,
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Speaker 1: you know, because we would do and some pounding going
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Speaker 1: back my head is. You know, I've taken a few
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Speaker 1: four arm shivish. It was yellow jackets, sting man.
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Speaker 2: That's the worst.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to the leather helmet.
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine that. I think that beats the cotton mouth,
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Speaker 2: to tell you the truth, because the cotton mouth didn't
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Speaker 2: bite another one. Real quick. I want to tell you
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Speaker 2: about and this is down where I grew up in
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Speaker 2: Delaware County, Pennsylvania, Ridley Creek. I know it well. There
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Speaker 2: was some kids out fishing. They're really young, eight year olds,
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Speaker 2: all out fishing with their little rods in the creek there.
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Speaker 2: One of them pulls in a fish that he's never
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Speaker 2: seen before. Turns out it was a nine and a
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Speaker 2: half inch two pound piranha. The teeth and everything from
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Speaker 2: the Amazon, So obviously somebody had a tropical fish and
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Speaker 2: and caught this. Now, he put it in a bucket
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Speaker 2: and he took it home, and his parents said, you know,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna call it them all control. This isn't a
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Speaker 2: normal thing, and they said they humanely put it down,
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Speaker 2: but they said, obviously this is somebody that collects exotic animals,
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Speaker 2: and they've put out a message, please please, please, call us.
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Speaker 2: If you're gonna get rid of an animal like this,
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Speaker 2: please call us.
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Speaker 1: Don't. It's not like putting goldfish in a pond. No,
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Speaker 1: there's a piranha with the razor teeth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it would have died. It's fine there for
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Speaker 2: the summer. You know, it's a tropical fish. It needs
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Speaker 2: hot water.
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Speaker 1: So what did the other fish think when all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden this piranha was in the same creek?
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Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing you. How about the salamanders?
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Speaker 2: You know, I enter the reptiles nearbyer like, who's this guy?
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Speaker 2: Who's the new bully in town? Let's get some talk facts.
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Speaker 4: Where is this pole that says Jersey's second best state
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Speaker 4: to liven This state is miserably horrible. There's nothing here.
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Speaker 4: They don't all they got of the beach and that's it.
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Speaker 4: That's it. They don't do one thing to help any
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Speaker 4: tax payer, and the taxes go up, services go down,
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Speaker 4: utility is are sky high. I do can thank half
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Speaker 4: of the bag Murphy for that. Oh no, we second best.
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Speaker 2: Come on, Hey, I suggest you moved to Idaho because
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Speaker 2: Idaho was number one on that list. It's got to
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Speaker 2: be a little bit better.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's more potatoes in Iowa or Idaho. Remember Jersey
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Speaker 1: is the tomato state. Or we say tomato, you think
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Speaker 1: it's fruit, We say it's a vegetable.
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Speaker 5: I believe the New York people need to understand that
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Speaker 5: Zorin Mandani did this second home tax with the permission
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Speaker 5: of Kathy Hoko. Couldn't have done it without her. So
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Speaker 5: do not be surprised if she gets re elected and
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Speaker 5: she does it for the whole state. You will be
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Speaker 5: paying more for less.
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Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent. I didn't even think of that. I think
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Speaker 2: that could happen.
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Speaker 1: Won't resonate, That's what one and people figure. I can
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Speaker 1: barely afford my house. What do I care about rich people?
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Speaker 1: Got to pay an extra tax on two houses doesn't
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Speaker 1: resonate in the streets.
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Speaker 2: The rich people care.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what they pay. The taxes they're
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Speaker 1: one percent is not going to determine who the next
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Speaker 1: governor is.
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Speaker 2: One percent, I know, but it affects the state one
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Speaker 2: percent of the people like fifty three percent of the
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Speaker 2: tax base.
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Speaker 6: I'm so happy to hear things about New Jersey. I'm
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Speaker 6: damnas from peremise. You just don't go out on route
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Speaker 6: seventeen on Saturdays, and you'll be fine.
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Speaker 1: Give me the insight on that one, because I'm not
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Speaker 1: the New Jersey What did you mean by that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some dangerous roads in New Jersey. There's a couple.
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Speaker 2: But luckily they didn't talk about drivers and roads on
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Speaker 2: the UH in the survey. Well, so that's why Jersey
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Speaker 2: did well.
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Speaker 1: Remember, I would say, you got to each bottlenet what
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Speaker 1: did they call them? Jug handles circles, you know, like
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Speaker 1: as if it's a UFO crop circle. Man, we should
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Speaker 1: do a whole segment. I give you every reason why
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Speaker 1: New Jersey should not be second in the survey.
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Speaker 8: That house destroyed, another one appears destroyed as well, and
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Speaker 8: others are damaged. Neighbors say the fire hydrant right next
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Speaker 8: to the house that caught fire is not working.
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Speaker 2: Luigi Mangioni, the accused killer of Brian Thompson. They accuse
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Speaker 2: him of stalking Brian Thompson and then murdering him. I'd
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Speaker 2: like to get rid of the accused and the alleged
21:35
Speaker 2: because we all saw it and that's going to be
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Speaker 2: his problem going forward is everybody saw it. The world
21:42
Speaker 2: saw it, and all of the warm feelings for Mangioni,
21:47
Speaker 2: which are bizarre, are because of a lot of people
21:50
Speaker 2: had trouble with the healthcare industry, and for some of
21:53
Speaker 2: the women because they think he's very good looking and
21:56
Speaker 2: it's so that's what makes the whole case strange. So
21:59
Speaker 2: there was a hearing yesterday. They talked about making the
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Speaker 2: jury anonymous, they talked about possibly live streaming judges deciding
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Speaker 2: all of that, and then there was a fury after
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Speaker 2: the hearing ended. There was this fury of activity because
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Speaker 2: there was talk of a plea deal. Now that came
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Speaker 2: out because both the federal prosecutors and the defense team
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Speaker 2: filed a motion for a special conference on Friday tomorrow
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Speaker 2: at eleven a m. Now, they did have some discussions
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Speaker 2: yesterday and now they are going to have an official conference.
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Speaker 2: So what is going on now? Most people, We've talked
22:44
Speaker 2: about it a little bit yesterday because it first got
22:46
Speaker 2: out yesterday. And now it seems that most legal analysts
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Speaker 2: believe that there is some type of plea deal. But
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Speaker 2: it's confusing to a whole lot of people because the
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Speaker 2: more serious charges are with the state that could put
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Speaker 2: him away for a much longer time. The federal chargers. Remember,
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Speaker 2: murder federally got thrown out, so there's only two counts
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Speaker 2: of stalking against him, but those counts of stalking interstate
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Speaker 2: stalking could put him in prison for the rest of
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Speaker 2: his life. And if you look at the state charges,
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Speaker 2: it's twenty five years for a second degree murder and
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Speaker 2: some of the other charges. A lot of other charges
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Speaker 2: could total up. I guess it could be more, but
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Speaker 2: how can it be more than the rest of your life?
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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what they have to offer him.
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Speaker 2: Making it even more complicated is that they can't offer
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Speaker 2: him a lower sentence. That's not up to them the
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Speaker 2: federal judge. The judge in a federal case has way
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Speaker 2: more power than an estate case. He gets the last say,
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Speaker 2: the only say on sentencing, so the sentencing is tied
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Speaker 2: to the charges, so there's very little wiggle room for negotiations.
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Speaker 2: And yet everyone saying it sure does smell like a
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Speaker 2: plea deal. So it's gonna be fascinating to see what
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Speaker 2: they come up with.
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Speaker 1: Well, I predict he won't do it. He wants to
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Speaker 1: be in the limelight. And by the way, Alvin Bragg,
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Speaker 1: who wants to be in the limelight too, is saying
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Speaker 1: you can't do that because we're going to prosecute him. Well,
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Speaker 1: by tomorrow we're gonna find out. We're gonna find out.
24:21
Speaker 1: But the other case is the execution assassination of Charlie Kirk.
24:28
Speaker 1: Although we didn't see it in real time, all the
24:32
Speaker 1: evidence leads to Tyler Robinson. And there's a death penalty
24:36
Speaker 1: in Utah that could be put on this guy. Because
24:39
Speaker 1: this goes back. Remember when they renewed the death penalty,
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Speaker 1: the United States Main Court says, you can do it again.
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Speaker 1: The first one was Gary Gilmore. They made the movie
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Speaker 1: about that. Remember what would you like? Would you like
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Speaker 1: to be electrocuted? Would you like to guess chamber? What
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Speaker 1: would you like? Firing squad? And remember Gary Gilmore said
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Speaker 1: firing squad. But apparently the only defense that's a measure
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Speaker 1: for Tyler Robinson is to say, yeah, he had four
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Speaker 1: bullets in his rifle, his grandfather's rifle, but he only
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Speaker 1: shot one bullet and it didn't endanger anybody in the crown.
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Speaker 1: And I guess, Larry, that means you can't get a
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Speaker 1: death penalty charge on him. Anytime you shoot a bullet,
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Speaker 1: it can endanger anybody, anytime, anyplace.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the idea was that anytime you shoot, you
25:24
Speaker 2: can hurt somebody. That's why, if you've noticed all the
25:27
Speaker 2: stories on it, when they when they talk about the
25:30
Speaker 2: fact that they're trying to pull this off, they call
25:32
Speaker 2: it about an outrageous objection, an outrageous plea, or an
25:38
Speaker 2: absurd that all these adjectives are put behind the motion
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Speaker 2: they're making or in front of the motion they're making.
25:45
Speaker 2: So I don't think he has a chance at this
25:47
Speaker 2: because it justifies logic. If you had four bullets, you
25:52
Speaker 2: thought to yourself, you might miss the first time, and
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Speaker 2: you'd shoot more bullets, so you came there ready to
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Speaker 2: fire at least times. You got lucky with the first
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Speaker 2: shot or unlucky, depending on how you want to look
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Speaker 2: at it. But still, I mean, look, I don't I
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Speaker 2: don't blame them. They're going to try anything they can
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Speaker 2: at this point because it looks like he's confessed to it. Basically,
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Speaker 2: you know, in both a note and orally you have
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Speaker 2: a witness that say he confessed to it. You have
26:20
Speaker 2: a note that says he confessed to it, So he's
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Speaker 2: done with and they're gonna try everything, so I don't
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Speaker 2: blame them for trying this, but there's no shot.
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Speaker 1: Well, I want to see that shot take place a
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Speaker 1: firing squad. Utah has a firing squad as a de
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Speaker 1: that's mentalty. I want to see that. I mean, that
26:38
Speaker 1: was it. I mean an execution and assassination.
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Speaker 2: And for what I mean, look at this guy, as
26:46
Speaker 2: smart as he's supposed to be, is suffering from some
26:49
Speaker 2: kind of mental illness. There's no question about that.
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Speaker 1: Here we have Attorney General Tiss James, Governor Hochal saying
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Speaker 1: get an immigration naturalization service that zap you when they
29:23
Speaker 1: grab on to you. And so they already have a
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Speaker 1: lawsuit against them wearing masks, masks and not having proper identification.
29:31
Speaker 1: The federal court system has ruled against them so far,
29:35
Speaker 1: so now they have another reason to go into court.
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Speaker 1: But that was announced yesterday, including that at the same time,
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Speaker 1: all the ICE agents will have cameras on them that
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Speaker 1: the streets or they're grabbing a fugitive. So I'm toying
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Speaker 1: with this, and I'm saying, I've seen ICE over the years, Larry.
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Speaker 1: I saw them with Obama. They actually end ended up
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Speaker 1: I've seen federal marshals. You know they have the task Force,
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Speaker 1: Fugitive task Force, but I never saw them use all
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they didn't dos people so they didn't have
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Speaker 2: it was fine. You don't know half the things they
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Speaker 2: We do know they used tasers back then. We do
30:41
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30:44
Speaker 2: they got physical with the people. We do know they
30:47
Speaker 2: pointed guns at people in the past. All the things
30:50
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30:57
Speaker 2: and nobody's complained about that, which they use all the time,
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Speaker 2: These gloves are less dangerous. So I don't understand. I
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Speaker 2: But it gets nauseating after a while. You let all
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Speaker 1: Well. I have problems with some of it. We'll do
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