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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football vs TCU Game Recap (Episode 750) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Well, hello there. Welcome in, everybody. It is time for
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  Speaker 1: three guys before the game. This is episode number 750.
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  Speaker 2: 750.
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  Speaker 1: I need to talk to you about that, too. About
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  Speaker 1: the 750th episode?
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  Speaker 3: No, about 800.
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  Speaker 2: All right, fine.
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  Speaker 1: We've got other things to do.
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because the world champion Mountaineers scored an unexpected, according to
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  Speaker 1: the oddsmakers, an unexpected victory. WVU, double-digit dog on the
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  Speaker 1: road in Fort Worth, and they emerge.
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  Speaker 3: Did that line run out to about 42 before the
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  Speaker 3: game started?
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  Speaker 2: My gosh.
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  Speaker 3: People are betting that like Hawkins wasn't playing, like they
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  Speaker 3: knew the outcome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All West Virginia has to do is be a 10-point
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  Speaker 2: dog on the road.
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  Speaker 1: That's all you need to do.
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  Speaker 2: That's the key.
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  Speaker 1: Give it to us. We'll talk all about it. We'll
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  Speaker 1: break all the numbers down. Interesting game statistically. It was
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  Speaker 1: an aberration game. Plus, Mountaineer basketball team played its second
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  Speaker 1: exhibition game against Glenville State. Brad will have the details
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  Speaker 1: on that. Got another exhibition. And then in just a
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  Speaker 1: week's time, we'll be playing ball for real. So let's
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  Speaker 2: Were you saying something?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Spreads on stats.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: Brad's got so many stats. I needed so much power
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  Speaker 1: computing these. Had to open a data center.
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  Speaker 3: Had an early start this morning. Almost missed tip time
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  Speaker 3: here because I had to stop. There were so many.
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  Speaker 1: That's coming up. And healing. A lot of healing. We
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of healing going on in the post game.
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  Speaker 1: health care provider for all Mountaineers, including you. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's jump in. In Rich Rodriguez's first stint as the
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineer head coach, West Virginia scored a couple of memorable
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  Speaker 1: victories as they got the program rolling. One was at
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati when they missed a field goal. That gave Rich
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  Speaker 1: his first road win when he took over the job
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  Speaker 1: back in the early 2000s. And then you had a
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  Speaker 1: Brian King interception against the Virginia Techs in the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: as West Virginia thwarted a Virginia Tech attempt to win
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  Speaker 1: the game. Well, yesterday afternoon, it wasn't Blacksburg, but it
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  Speaker 1: was Fort Worth, and David Afogo forced a strip and
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  Speaker 1: friend of the podcast on his mother's birthday. Oh, was it?
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  Speaker 1: Jen's birthday, on his mother's birthday, Ben Cutter, for the
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  Speaker 1: second week in a row, just went out, won a game.
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  Speaker 1: Against Cincinnati, it wasn't as obvious when he forced the
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  Speaker 1: punter to punt the ball. But had he not made
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  Speaker 1: that play, the punter runs, they get the first down,
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  Speaker 1: you lose. Mark it down. So for two weeks in
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  Speaker 1: a row, Ben Cutter plays the role of game winner,
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  Speaker 1: which is awesome for any player to be able to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got one, he got two in a row.
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  Speaker 1: So congratulations to him. Happy birthday to Jen Cutter, who
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  Speaker 1: is a friend of the program. Her cookies, they might
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  Speaker 1: be the cookie connection, right?
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  Speaker 3: World best.
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  Speaker 1: World's best cookies. And we are going to do something
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  Speaker 1: with her for Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Just keep it moving here. You can say happy birthday
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  Speaker 3: to Jen, and you don't have to overpromise something that's
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  Speaker 3: not done.
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  Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Jen. Happy birthday. Her sister is probably bouncing
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  Speaker 1: around too, the former little Debbie.
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  Speaker 2: 24-20. Where are you going with it?
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  Speaker 3: Just leave it with Ben with the fumble recovery, sealing
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  Speaker 3: the game, got his helmet ripped off so it was
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  Speaker 3: a good moment to see Ben's face on TV as
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  Speaker 3: he's holding the ball up with the wind.
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  Speaker 2: Show the picture because it's the lead picture on the
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  Speaker 2: Metro News website. Jay, can you go ahead and show that?
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  Speaker 2: I had that in my obvious observations, but there it is.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that picture. Is that great?
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  Speaker 1: That's one for the ages. That's a great picture. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Jed Drenning said this when we were flying home yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He said the fact that his helmet came off, that
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  Speaker 1: made it absolute cinema. Like in a movie, that's how
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  Speaker 1: that would happen. Like the helmet comes off and he
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  Speaker 1: emerges out of that.
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  Speaker 2: Plus the expression on his face. You know what it was?
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  Speaker 1: It was joy. Well, it was joy hopping.
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  Speaker 2: I have that too, but I'll hold that for obvious observation.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to it. So happy for Ben. Fun that
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  Speaker 3: it came on Jen's birthday. You said you got to
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  Speaker 3: credit a FOGO too. Yes. And I'll get into some
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  Speaker 3: pressure stuff here. We talked about that Thursday that you
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  Speaker 3: thought you could get home on this TCU offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: You had to find some pressure. I'll get into the
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  Speaker 3: numbers that back this up. But credit him getting home because,
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  Speaker 3: again– That was another moment. I mean, that TCU offense
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  Speaker 3: was driving. And we've said it for how many weeks, Hop?
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  Speaker 3: Stand up defensively. You don't have to be the 96 defense.
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  Speaker 3: But stand up and make some plays when it matters.
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  Speaker 3: And they certainly did. I thought that was the definition
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  Speaker 3: of that game yesterday. Weren't the 96 defense. But they
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  Speaker 3: stood up when they had to and made some big
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  Speaker 3: plays in key moments that got you an important road win. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Credit to the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Just as Hoppy doesn't want to get into Brad's stats
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  Speaker 1: when Hoppy does his obvious observations, I certainly don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get into anything obvious that Hoppy might say in
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  Speaker 1: a moment.
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  Speaker 3: We already have.
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to say this, my perspective. There
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  Speaker 1: was every single reason in the book for West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: to lose that game yesterday. It was their eighth consecutive game.
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  Speaker 1: TCU had had a bye week. two weeks ago, one
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  Speaker 1: at Baylor the previous week. West Virginia went in dragging, right?
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  Speaker 1: There was every reason why you could say mentally they
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  Speaker 1: were tired, physically they were tired, right? They're played without
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  Speaker 1: a couple of their starters in that game. And what
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  Speaker 1: it says to me is it underscores what the tenant
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  Speaker 1: of the program and the theme of the program is.
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  Speaker 1: And that is just to keep on keeping on, maintain
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  Speaker 1: a hard edge, follow what we're saying, And if you do,
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  Speaker 1: good things will happen. And so with that being the case,
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  Speaker 1: I do. And this is not to make more of
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  Speaker 1: this than this is. But that is a foundational marker
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  Speaker 1: in Rich's build of this program that you will look
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  Speaker 1: back on. The defense had been absolutely kicked to the curb.
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  Speaker 1: And I know statistically you could make those comments. But
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  Speaker 1: those boys, those young men, those student athletes, those fellas,
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  Speaker 1: they made stops that we did not expect them to make,
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  Speaker 1: and as a result, they won the game.
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  Speaker 2: What was the word that Rich Rod used after the game? Grit.
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  Speaker 1: Grit.
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  Speaker 2: They demonstrated grit in that game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I don't want to take anything else, but
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  Speaker 1: that was my thought on it. So that one sticks
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  Speaker 1: for me because there was every reason why you shouldn't Plus,
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  Speaker 1: you were a 99-point underdog. Is that what it was?
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  Speaker 3: It closed at 102-point underdog. I was stunned how much
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  Speaker 3: that number came around.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the number today just keeps going up.
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  Speaker 1: Plus, as I said, the numbers are weird in the game.
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get into those. All right, let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: He's got thoughts that sound brand new, but they're things
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  Speaker 1: we already knew.
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  Speaker 3: He's got his whip bomb ready, heaven knows. Let's make
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  Speaker 3: it quick before his bladder blows. It's Hoppy's Obvious Observations.
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  Speaker 1: Hoppy's Obvious Observations, presented by Hoppy and sponsored by No one.
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  Speaker 2: Tony, let's channel our favorite Bobby Bowden. Now, the defense
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  Speaker 2: won the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes, they did.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the defense, they won the game, Brad. They did.
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  Speaker 1: No, they made a stop, you see. They stopped.
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  Speaker 2: See, they stopped the other team from scoring.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you see, at the end of the game, now
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  Speaker 3: they got a sack and a fumble, and that won
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  Speaker 3: them the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And they were on defense when they did that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't... I did not think this season we would
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  Speaker 2: be saying the words, the defense won the game, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, going into this game, we're saying, well, does
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  Speaker 2: Hawkins have to have another historic performance to win the game?
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  Speaker 2: And we're going to get into Hawkins, obviously. But the
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  Speaker 2: defense did, even though they gave up 484, 29 first downs,
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  Speaker 2: 33 completions for 372 yards. But they made plays when
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  Speaker 2: they had to, right? They made plays. Big ones. Big plays.
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  Speaker 2: They held TCU scoreless in the fourth quarter. Mm-hmm. That
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  Speaker 2: one stop we talked about, the Fogo knock, and Ben
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  Speaker 2: Cutter gave him all the credit for creating the fumble,
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  Speaker 2: and then Ben gets the recovery. Forced TCU into three
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  Speaker 2: turnovers that were huge compared to one for WVU. Defense
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  Speaker 2: had to be on the field for 38 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of plays by TCU.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of plays. Compared with, yeah, so, and TCU
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  Speaker 2: managed just 13 points and one touchdown across the last
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  Speaker 2: nine possessions. We were looking back at that defense, Brad,
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  Speaker 2: and what did we say? Like, the other team just
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  Speaker 2: scores all the time. They got stops.
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  Speaker 3: Defense got better, huh? Are you allowed to get better?
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  Speaker 1: Defense stopped them five of their last seven possessions.
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  Speaker 2: Key quote from Rich Rod. It looked like the plan.
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  Speaker 2: How many times? Always before in these losses it was,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what we're doing here. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what the plan. We didn't do what the plan was.
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  Speaker 2: We got to make some changes. You know, it's coming up.
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  Speaker 2: It was all this stuff. And now they say, and
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  Speaker 2: we talked about that before this game, going, well, if
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  Speaker 2: you don't know what your plan is or how to–
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  Speaker 2: Play to the plan in game eight. What are you
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  Speaker 2: going to do? But he said it looked like the plan.
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  Speaker 2: It got better.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, imagine that.
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  Speaker 2: They got better.
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  Speaker 3: Kept playing.
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  Speaker 2: They got better.
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  Speaker 1: Kept playing.
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  Speaker 2: On a day when the offense struggled. And when I
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  Speaker 2: wrote that last night, yesterday after the game, I said
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  Speaker 2: the offense struggled. Well, they did compared to how the
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  Speaker 2: offense normally performs.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't a historic performance.
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  Speaker 2: It was not.
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  Speaker 3: What is happening with this offense? Wasn't the greatest performance
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  Speaker 3: we've seen in Mountaineer history. What's happening?
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  Speaker 2: They didn't rewrite the history books. They weren't historic. It
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  Speaker 2: was just good. Okay? Good enough. And that's what stood
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  Speaker 2: out because I'm watching the game. I'm thinking, this offense
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  Speaker 2: doesn't look very good. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: You had to catch yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: They scored 24 points on the best defense in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Most they've given up this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Previous high was 21.
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  Speaker 2: Like, having trouble running the ball. Well, Hawkins had 90.
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  Speaker 2: Cook had 90. So, we got a little bit spoiled
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  Speaker 2: there by this offense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it was interesting to see on a day when
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  Speaker 2: the offense wasn't historic that the defense played the way
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  Speaker 2: they played. That made it better. That made it better.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Both sides contributed to this win.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. So it wasn't as though you got a win like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you won 54-50. No, it was better this way than
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  Speaker 2: another way. So let's see. And this is okay. Here
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  Speaker 2: it is. This is the Hawkins quote. The defense had
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  Speaker 2: gotten stops the whole game. This was a big game
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  Speaker 2: for those guys up front and in the secondary. Seeing
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  Speaker 2: those guys get the stop brought joy to our whole team.
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  Speaker 1: Joy. He's on your team. He's on Team Joy.
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  Speaker 2: There it is.
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  Speaker 1: Team Joy.
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  Speaker 2: Team Joy.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I just looked at and just blew
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  Speaker 1: my mind?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: The drive that they fumbled on to lose the game
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  Speaker 1: and for West Virginia to win the game. I had
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  Speaker 1: no idea.
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  Speaker 2: That was 17 plays.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: They went 17 plays, 67 yards, and had the ball
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  Speaker 1: for over five minutes and 18 seconds. They had 17 plays.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I got a text. I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 2: who it was. I got a text at that point
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  Speaker 2: in the game where somebody said, let him score, then
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  Speaker 2: we'll get a chance. I said, no, make us stop.
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  Speaker 1: Can I guess who it was?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: If I guess it, will you say yes, it was?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Christian Miller.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: That numbskull. Would someone go buy him like a football book?
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  Speaker 1: Go buy him a football book called Rules of Football.
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  Speaker 1: Teach him the game. No, don't let him.
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  Speaker 2: Get him. Stop.
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  Speaker 1: Christian Miller said let him score. Yeah. What an embarrassment.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think, Brad? You agree?
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  Speaker 3: I know that was floating around out there because you'd
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  Speaker 3: seen the defense.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to jump on Christian?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Christian's never right. I mean, Christian misses
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  Speaker 3: everything he says. I'm just moving on from that because
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  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever Christian says, do the exact opposite. You'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Jack Cassidy. Crushed it from 54.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll that'll get I was just I just made
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  Speaker 3: a note there because I want to make sure we
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  Speaker 3: hit that because I thought that'd get glossed over based
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  Speaker 3: on all the other performances. So he finishes last week
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  Speaker 3: with a game winner starts this week with an I
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  Speaker 3: thought that was an important three points to get on
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  Speaker 3: the board against a really good defense and you weren't
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  Speaker 3: quite sure how.
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  Speaker 2: Many were going to score in need.
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  Speaker 3: And guys, he didn't just hit it for 54. That
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  Speaker 3: hit the back of the net.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And still going. That's 60 plus.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a bomb.
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  Speaker 3: And that's good. So yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that.
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  Speaker 3: That was a good one.
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  Speaker 2: That was huge.
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  Speaker 3: Important part of that game, even though it was the
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  Speaker 3: very first try.
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  Speaker 2: Third longest.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch. Yeah, several guys have 54s. And Paul
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  Speaker 1: Woodside's got a 55. Well, does he? That's a yard away.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And that was off– I think that was back in
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  Speaker 2: the Alpha T day, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah, I think it might have been. I want
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  Speaker 1: to check on that. I think that might have been true.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll check. Now you've won two consecutive league games.
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  Speaker 1: Does that make it a streak? No.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not a streak. It means you've won back-to-back games.
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  Speaker 2: You've won back-to-back games and a week off.
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  Speaker 3: That's a two-game winning streak. I mean, that's how you
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  Speaker 3: describe that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why you got to poo-poo it.
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  Speaker 3: It is a streak. It's a two-game winning streak. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: And a week off and Texas Tech coming off a–
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: dismal performance against Cincinnati where they turned the ball over,
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  Speaker 2: had 150 penalties, just a bad performance by Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe they're wobbling a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: They've got the Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, they've been wobbling since day one. That team, that
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly should be lucky and fortunate they got to
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  Speaker 3: this point without a loss. They have had some other
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  Speaker 3: games where they have not looked like the Texas Tech
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  Speaker 3: that we were promised in the summer is not what
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  Speaker 3: has shown up. Now, that'll be a formidable opponent in
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  Speaker 3: a couple weeks. I'm not saying that. But, man, they
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  Speaker 3: did a lot of talking. They did a lot of
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: talking about Cincinnati and the Sorsby stuff. And the Sorsby specifically,
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: and that just did not come to fruition for the
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Red Raiders.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: They got Arizona this week at home. Good.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: And don't want to get ahead of myself, but Cole
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Tabb ran for 173 against them. So can Cam Cook?
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: We'll say save it. You got a lot of time
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: to save it.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Okay. I just wanted to note that. That's all.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Noted.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Rich Rod had the Ike Morris hat on.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: That was awesome.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Salute to his friend. Ike Morris.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: That was awesome. It was a rough week for a
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: lot of those guys, man. Rough week.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Tony, I listened to you guys. However, TV did do
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: the Ike Morris story.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, great.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Are we seeing some parody in college football?
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Last week, five of the top seven teams lost. This week,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: six of the top 16 teams lost. Now, some of
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: it was against another ranked opponent, but are we seeing
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: some parody, Brad? Yes.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, you are, although the only league that's good top
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: to bottom is the SEC. Everybody else just has bad
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: teams in it that beat each other, but the SEC
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: has true parity. That is true parity.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: That's true parity.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: When Auburn gets a win over number one, that's parity
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: in a league.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, what about in the Big 12?
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: That's not a good team having a bad loss.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: What about in the Big 12?
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: No, it's just a bunch of bad teams running around.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: No, just they're in parity in this league.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Okay. No, just a bunch of bad teams.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I just want to be clear about that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Just a bunch of bad teams running around.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: So parity only exists in one league.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: In one league.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: And part of the Big Ten.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Part of the Big Ten.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: But in the Big 12, it's just bad teams.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Just bad teams. Nobody's any good.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Okay. Got it. That's what I have.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Which, by the way, I will say this. We'll get
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: into the other Big 12 games, but one of the
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: things you're referring to is UCF historic win over number
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: two BYU, which nationally, everybody will jump on that now. No,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: UCF's no good. That's a bad loss for BYU. All
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: that stuff. The reason we talk about letdown spots is why?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: They're real.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: That was the definition of if you like to play
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: some numbers... That was one that you looked at and went, uh-huh,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: circled that in a big red marker. Historic win over
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame, game day for BYU, everything you could have,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: number two in the country, and you've got to get
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: on a plane and fly all the way, three-quarters of
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: the way around the world and get to Central Florida
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: and see if it's ready to go.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Fueled up in Beijing and came into Orlando.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: They had four stops to get fuel before they got
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: all the way to their game in a conference game
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and lost it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: They flew west. To get and came around.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And came around.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: So let down spots are real. That's why they come
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: up so often.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that everybody at BYU is talking about
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the Notre Dame game until about five minutes before the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: UCF game.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen, it's one of those let down spots
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: isn't like, not like BYU didn't care about it. It's
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: just natural to have a little come down off of that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: And it is hard. Other teams are good. Other teams,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: there is parity. There are solid players at other schools
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: that are trying to win. Or as Ross Hodge says,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the other coach has a big house too. They're trying
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: to figure stuff out, so that's what you're referring to. Yes.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And that's what I have.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Hoppy. We appreciate that. Those were
• 18:20
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• 19:45
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• 19:47
  Speaker 1: your boat before you put it away. Why do it?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: It?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Like, why do it in the spring? Don't, like, right?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 3: What?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: What is it, October? I'll tell you what I'm doing
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: here pretty soon. Like, in the next two, three weeks,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I got this snowblower. I'm going to take it to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: my machine guy that does lawnmowers. And he also does snowblowers.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to say, hey, take this right now.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Get it ready for me. because snow's coming. So your
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: boating season's going to come, so get the boat ready
• 20:16
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• 20:19
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• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Brad's loaded for bear here. This is going to be
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: champing at the bit.
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  Speaker 3: Got a lot of stuff.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Did you have anything that made you go, whoa?
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You did?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I think this was one of those games where there
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: were multiple things that you went, oh, okay.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: But I think there's one in particular.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: There's one to be.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I think there's one that you know by watching. I'll
• 20:56
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• 20:58
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  Speaker 3: I will, but I want to start with something, an aside,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: if I may. Of course. And I'll be quick, but
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I was thinking this weekend, late last night, this morning, Hop, this...
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I'll speak for myself, but I know you guys are
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: in this camp as well. This weekend crystallized why I
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: love sports so much. It's been my whole entire life,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: my whole professional career. Same for you. It's been a
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: big part of yours, I know. There were two things.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: The football side of it, I love when things like
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: this happen. Everybody assumes it is one story moving forward,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and that story can't change, and it is just going
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: to be this, and it's never going to be different.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And you know who didn't buy that narrative? Those dudes
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: over in that locker room, right? And credit the defensive
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: coaching staff, too, because they were getting crushed. And listen, guys,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: rightfully so. That had been a rough defensive performance over
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the last four weeks. So I'm not even saying all
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that stuff was justified. But they just kept working. And
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I think that's what's the great thing about sports is
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you get another chance to prove yourself. It keeps coming.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: And when you stay at work and you keep trying
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: and you don't lay down, good things generally happen. And
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: they did for that West Virginia team and the defense
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: in particular. And I thought it was just a great
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: example of just tune it out, get back to work,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: and change the narrative. And they changed the narrative for
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: a week. And I love that about sports. It gives
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: you that opportunity to stand up and fight back, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: that team did. And then I'll get into this more
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: about the game down in Glenville, but another example of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: how sports can help And it doesn't completely heal the community.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: It doesn't completely heal the people that are reeling from
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: the loss of Ike Morris. And there's an entire county, right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: It goes beyond that county, but certainly that county and
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: those folks at Glenville State had a really rough week, Tony,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: as you said. That was emotionally exhausting for thousands of people.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: And they poured out over the week to remember Ike
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and what he meant to the community. And having West
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Virginia's basketball team down there meant a lot. to a
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: lot of people, and it was really visible. That wasn't
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: something you had to make up a narrative about, and
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: we'll talk more about it, but I thought those two
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: things this weekend were why we all love and embrace
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: sports so much, and it was a really fun weekend
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: to be around all of those things. All right. There's
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: the aside. Let's dive into these numbers. Let's go back
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: to what we talked about Thursday, what came to fruition.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: We led with the rush defense of TCU going against
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: West Virginia's offense, and could you run it? TCU giving
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: up just 92 yards per game, West Virginia running it
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: at nearly 300 yards per game clip. TCU had only
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: given up two rushing plays of 20 yards or more
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: all season. Well, as you mentioned, Hoppy, it wasn't the
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: dominating WVU rush performance or historical that we've seen, but
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: it was much more effective than TCU was used to
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: giving up. Nearly 200 yards rushing, nearly five yards per carry.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Hawkins and Cook both with 90 plus on the ground.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: A positive rush EPA against a team that was top
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: five in rush EPA allowed. Expected points added. So how
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: well did you do on each play in terms of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: adding points to your total? 78th percentile for West Virginia
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: against a team that, again, was top five in that category. TCU,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I mentioned, had given up 10 rush plays of 20
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: yards or more the entire season. They gave up two
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: just yesterday. 31 and 36 yards from West Virginia. Also
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: had a pass play in there, so it was another
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: big play. TCU wasn't used to giving up those explosives
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: we had mentioned TCU's numbers were elite but they hadn't
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: seen a rush offense like West Virginia they hadn't seen
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: a Hawkins and Cook and I thought that showed in
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: important matters like TCU did a nice job compared to
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: the other schools in this league but ultimately Hawkins and
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Cook had some runs that made you go wow and
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: some plays that ultimately got you the win so winner
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: for West Virginia's rush defense against TCU's Russ offense versus
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: TCU's Russ defense.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Mike Hawkins' touchdown run was incredible. Incredible. Remarkable.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Cam Cook had that one where he put the dude
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: on a poster.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Just ran straight through him. That's one-on-one. That's football. Can
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: you stop me? And Cook ran through him, then around him.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: That was tremendous.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Last week, I heard a quote from him where they
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: drill each day about their balance. They do these drills. Balance.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: He displayed that. I mean, his body balance is as
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: good as I've seen. His ability to take contact and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: get really popped and still stay on, and then their
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: ability to use one arm to keep themselves up. That's
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: drilled to them. He ran mad throughout the course of
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that game.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: He's really talented. Strength and balance came through there. Second point, Hoppy,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: we went right into that opposing quarterbacks have been having
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: career days. Jalen Rayner at Iowa State hadn't had a
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: great season but had a great day. Jaden Craig was
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: kind of in that realm of he's had a pretty
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: good season, not an elite season. How would he do?
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: What would that look like? This was a passing offense
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: in TCU that had been good, not great. And you
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: didn't want to turn them in to a great passing
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: offense because you were struggling defensively. We said, I thought
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: this was an important part going in. And frankly, I
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: thought it was where the game would be decided. We
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: mentioned West Virginia's defensive pressure rate was right about the
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: power for average. So that had not been historically bad
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: like some of West Virginia's defensive numbers, but you hadn't
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: been getting home and converting those into sacks or tackles
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: for loss or turnovers, but you'd been around it. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: we mentioned, Hop, could you make the Frogs one-dimensional, then
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: get some of that pressure, but actually get home and
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: start to affect plays? And we likened it to that
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Virginia game. I thought that was the model that you
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: had to follow. Slow the run, then get after the quarterback,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: force them into some key bad plays, and maybe that
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: was the formula for the win. Jeez, did that play out, guys?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: How about that? We mentioned that you should get some
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: pressure against this struggling TCU offensive line. There were only
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: seven teams that had allowed more pressure than TCU. Virginia
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: was one of them. That's part of why I made
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: that analogy. I thought those two could come together. Well,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you followed the blueprint. TCU couldn't run it. Just 112
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: yards on the ground, which granted includes the sack total
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: of lost yards, which I'll get into in a And
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: maybe the bigger news, just two rush plays of more
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: than 20 yards for TCU. So the big explosives were gone.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: You contained that run game that had been struggling. You
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: kept them struggling. They had a negative rush EPA. And
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: then they went to the air. They threw it on
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: 60% of their plays. So you succeeded in making them
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: more one-dimensional. What did that convert into? West Virginia credited
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: with 29 pressures in the game. You had 18 against Virginia.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: So you went above and beyond the game that I
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: thought you could mirror. Isaiah Patterson had four of those pressures,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: including at least one sack. Some had him as two sacks.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Depends if you count it as a sack or tackle
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: for loss. But Isaiah Patterson, really good. Three sacks on
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the day total for West Virginia. So that was the
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: most pressure, most sacks in a game versus a power
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: four opponent this season. So that played out like we
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: thought it might. Now listen, that wasn't all roses and
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: puppy dogs here. You still allowed nearly 400 yards passing
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: by Craig. He still had a 70% completion percentage higher
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: than his average. You were outgained by a mammoth 219 yards.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: They had plus 12 first downs. They used 70% of
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: the available yards to you. That's normally a loss when
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: you give up those kind of numbers. And TCU had
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a higher success rate offensively than West Virginia did. More
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: yards per play and a higher offensive EPA. But you
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: made stops and got big plays when you had to.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: So again, that's fine. All that stuff's great, but TCU's
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the one that has to reconcile that this morning and say,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: oh my God, can you believe we lost this? You
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: walked out of the win because you made big plays
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: in big moments, and we'll get into that. So the
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: bottom line, you did not allow a good passing offense
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: to become an elite one, and you got some pressure
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: against them. We talked about trying to find the explosive
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: pass plays. That seemed to be a key for West
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Virginia when they would win games. You were number two
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: coming in an explosive pass rate against a TCU defense
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: that was 10th. Not many big passing plays there. TCU
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: limited you just three explosives. So 15 yards or more
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: led to a total of just 51 yards. That was
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: kind of a non-factor, but you still got the win.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Turnovers were the key. Turnovers won you this game. Plus
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: two in turnover margin, including the obvious, the huge one
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: at the end of the game that sealed it. But
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: here's another big key, guys. Penalties. Let's get into this.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Huge.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: And Hoppy, I've said for years on this program, for years,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: there's a reason you talk about officiating. And it's okay,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, to include officiating and calls in the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: analysis of the game. Because frankly... It determines winners and
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: losers in a lot of games. So it's not whining
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: when you lose to mention officials. It's not something you should, oh,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: we can't talk about officials. It's part of the game.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: And it's an important part of the game. And here's
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: the numbers that back up how important it was in
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: this particular game. That penalty in the fourth quarter that
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: kept the drive alive, that you eventually scored on the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Hawkins to Cook touchdown that made it 24 to 20,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: which ultimately was the final score, that play alone is
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: added 13% to your win probability. It was the third
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: biggest win probability added play of the entire game.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Say that again. What did it do, percentage-wise?
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: That penalty added 13% to your win probability, making it
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: the third single biggest play of the game of every
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: play that happened.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the personal foul?
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Personal foul, correct.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: When he gave Hawkins the business?
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: That added 15 yards to it that kept the drive alive,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and then you scored on that drive, which ended up
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: being the game-winning touchdown. the penalty added more to your
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: win percentage and had a bigger expected points added than
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the actual touchdown did. Think about that from a weird
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: statistical part. The touchdown was less than what the penalty
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: was that kept the drive alive and TCU would have
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: been off the field. So it was a massive part
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: of that game. And I'm not saying it should be called,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be called. It's just I think that's part of
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: the analysis. You actually benefited from the time and place
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: of the call and it kept a drive alive. So
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: West Virginia had a total of plus 7.01 expected points
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: added via penalties. So the penalties throughout the game gave
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: West Virginia an expected scoring value of an additional touchdown
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: on there. So it doesn't literally mean you scored more points.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: It gave you the opportunity.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: It gave you the opportunity. It added the chance to
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: roughly equate to one more touchdown in expected value.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Before you go away from officiating, I need to ask something.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: So TCU also was positive penalty EPA. They were plus
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: three points. So you came out plus four points.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Seven minus three is four, and you win by? Four.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: See how we did that? That's kind of like Mr.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Rogers math.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Imagine that. So officiating does matter. You can talk about officiating.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: It is a part of the game. Go ahead. You
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: were going to ask.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: First touchdown by TCU.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: All right. Okay.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: You want to talk about officiating?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Go.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm just sitting there watching it, listening to you guys,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, okay, they're going to review it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: He clearly caught the ball and his foot was on
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the end line. And then I'm listening. I think it's
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: a great benefit. You can now listen to the discussion.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And he's, oh, we're upholding the call as a touchdown.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: What did I miss there, Tony?
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: What did I miss there, Brad?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I've seen some pictures. The only thing I can think
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: their rationale, and they didn't have it this close, but
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I saw a picture where his toe was down the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: back of his foot. I mean, literally, the only thing
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I can think of is they're saying toe touched first.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't have time to dive into this.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Some are saying that it's got to be the full
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: foot down. Is it just the toe that goes down?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, the picture shows the toes down. Again, that's
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: an enormous call. That's an enormous call either way. Either
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: way you take it, whatever it was supposed to be,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: or maybe they got it right. That's an enormous call.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: That stuff matters in games. And that I just thought
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: that was interesting because that gives you some statistical backup
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: to why calls matter. And it certainly did in West
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Virginia for the first time, maybe in the history of
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: any sport played ever came out on the positive side
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: of that call. So that game, if you want to
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: break it down statistically, came down to four enormous plays.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: So the Michael Hawkins 36 yard touchdown run added 11 percent.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: to your win probability. The penalty, as I just mentioned,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: put 13 extra points on win probability. Hawkins to Cook,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: touchdown pass was right in that same range there, a
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: little bit less than that, but right in that same range.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: And then at the end, the TCU fumble, obviously, was
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: the biggest swing of the game because you went from about,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: it was a coin toss as they were driving down
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: the field, right in that 50% range. You got another
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: 45% on top of it when you came up with
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: the ball, basically sealed the game.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: As a longtime Mountaineer fan, on what was a seven-team
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: play drive, how many of you had run it through
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: your head? Okay, they're going to score. They're going to score.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: How are you going to break my heart? Like you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: were just waiting for like, here it comes, here it comes,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: here it comes. I think that led to the jubilation
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of when it didn't happen.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you're saying, Tony, and I think
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that that's the classic narrative. But you'd only given up.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: 20 points and you'd made plays. I had kind of
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: a feeling that you would make a... You thought they.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Were going to get stopped?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, don't let them score. I mean, make
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: a play because they had made some key plays. And
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I just think, look, TCU, and you said 17 plays.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: You know what happens the more plays you run?
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, go ahead. Because I was just going to
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: say that. I do think that's relevant here. And what
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: happens is a mistake usually. That's where you were going,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I know. And I agree with that because... And I
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: think that's one of the areas, if you look for
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: improvement for this defense this week, it was the lack
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: of giant explosive plays.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Make them run the field.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, make them go all the way down the field.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: And then your opportunity to create one big play becomes
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: easier to do. And they did that. I think that's
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the point of the defense right there, Hop, is that
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: it wasn't all of a sudden a running back just
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: busted through for 55 yards and went, well, how about
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: that happen?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: What you just said is the philosophy of Don Nealon.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Don Nealon used to say the exact same thing. You
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: make them make a mistake. That's what you do. Don't
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: let them score. Just let them continue to snap it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: And then they were eventually, he felt they would eventually
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: make a mistake.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: And a lot of coaches subscribe to that. That's why
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: explosives are always so big. Offensive coaches talk about, we
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: got to get more explosives. Defensive coaches say we have
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: to limit it for that whole reason right there. All right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: a couple more. Our buddy, TCU play-by-play announcer, Brian Estridge.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: had some wild pregame numbers that I did not see
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: this pregame. This is interesting. So then you back into
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: it after the game. West Virginia now moves to 8-0
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: against TCU when you hold the Frogs to 21 points
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: or fewer in this series. That's pretty significant. You're also
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: now 5-1 in this series when West Virginia wins the
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: turnover battle. Do turnovers matter, Hoppy?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, they matter.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: All right, one last note on that, on how important
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: they can be, and in yesterday's case... penalties into this.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: So mistakes. Why do coaches always talk about mistakes? Bill
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Connolly of ESPN studied the success rate. We talk about
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: the success rate. Your down-to-down success of the offense. And
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: it's usually a good predictor of wins. If you have
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: a 10% or more advantage in success rate, down-to-down success,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: you win 92% of your games over a large sample size.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: TCU was right up against that yesterday. They had a
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: 9% success advantage in addition to all those others. Yards,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: first downs, EPA advantage offensively. 9% advantage in success rate.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: You still have a 75% win percentage in college football
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: when you have that metric. And yet they didn't win
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: the game. Penalties and turnovers. Big plays by that defense
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: when they had to have it. Big plays by West
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Virginia's offense just enough to get you over the hump
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: and win that game. Alright, some individuals. We mentioned Ben
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Cutter and the game he had not just a big
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: play at the end, but He was effective throughout the day.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: David Afogo, the aforementioned David Afogo. Two pressures, a sack.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: He had three stops, which is that stat we use
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: a lot from PFF that constitutes a failure for the offense.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: So he had three that tied for the team lead
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: along with Ben Cutter. Harper Holliman, six pressures. You notice
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: a theme here? That defensive line that we had talked
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: about had to get home and get some pressures did.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Will LeBlanc gave you some good snaps. We haven't talked
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: about him too much this year. 26 snaps. He had
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: a pressure. Your second highest defensive grade. How about Jason Hall?
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: A guy that had been coming on for the last
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: few weeks.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Played at Villanova.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: He did play at Villanova. He started to hear more
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: about him. Credited with just one tackle. But that's a
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: good example of why you can't just use tackles. Had
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: a couple pressures. Had a forced fumble. He was a
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: top five defensive grade. Mentioned Isaiah Patterson earlier. Four pressures
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: and then that either one or two sacks. If it
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: was one sack, then it was a tackle for loss
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: or two sacks. However you want to classify it. Jameer Latimer,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I felt like you called his name a bunch, Tony. Yeah,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I did. 12 tackles to lead the team, a sack,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: a TFL, a pass breakup. So there's a defensive player
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: making some havoc. Those are havoc stats.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: He made some havoc.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Is this violation NCAA violation if we send the Latimer family?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: like some of Jen Cutter's cookies and coffee for Christmas,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: because those two dudes, Amari and Jameer, like, thank you
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: very much, Latimer family, for letting them have it, for
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: us to be here.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Latimer will lay some wood, too.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude. He's nice. They run that two-back stuff, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: he just becomes a blocker. He can pound people when
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: he runs. He runs hard.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I was talking about the defensive ladder, not the offensive ladder.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the offensive one, Amar.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, he will, too.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, and Jameer will. He'll come.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: He'll hit you in the face.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: When you put up a sack at TFL, pass breakup,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: and 12 tackles, you're creating some havoc there. That's a
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: good game.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: What if I would have told you a week ago
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that at the end of the game that West Virginia
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: would have more sacks than TCU's defense? They did.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have believed it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: What if I told you that West Virginia would double
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the number of tackles for a loss than TCU? They did.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: That's the win.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: That's the win.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Made big plays when you needed to. So congratulations to
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: the entire group, but in particular that defensive staff and
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: those defensive players for not stopping, not listening to everybody,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: including us, and just went out and got better and
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: played well.
• 40:48
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  Speaker 1: All right. So like weird experience for me Friday night
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: when the Mountaineer basketball team was playing at Glenville. So
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I was in Texas. So I turned the stream on,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: watched the stream, and I was really happy that the
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Mountaineers Conference did a video stream of the game. So
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I'm watching, and there's Sparky. He's at press row. Game starts.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Game starts. You go to first media timeout. Come back,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Sparky, I'm hearing him. He's
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: doing the color on the broadcast with Bob Edwards.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: So, okay.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Then go to dinner, but I got my phone on
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the whole time watching the game. And then I see
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the game's still going, but then now he's in the
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: corner watching the game near the Mountaineer bench. So it
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: was like, where's Waldo all evening long with the senator? Nevertheless,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the Mountaineers get the victory over the pioneers of Glenville State.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Give me your takeaways now that you've seen them twice publicly.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I want to talk about the atmosphere for
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: just a second. What a great job by everybody down there.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: It was packed. really fun experience. I think our guys
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: really enjoyed playing in that gym. You know, it's one
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: of those games where if you're a player, you just
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: want a little juice in the building when you play.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: And there was juice in that building. And it was
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: a wild mix because there's Glenville State Pioneer fans in there.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: But a lot of those Glenville State fans are also
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Mountaineer fans. So it wasn't a hostile environment by any stretch.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: It was just loud and fun and neat. Our guys
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: came out with the gold warm-up shirts on with Ike
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: across the back in blue letters and Both teams were
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: out there before the anthem. They did a great video
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: tribute to Ike Morris. And Shelly and Doug were out there,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: his children and all the fans. And everybody stayed out.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: The officials were out there and everything. And it was
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: just really neat. It was emotional. Again, as I said,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: an emotional time for everybody down there. It was 24
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: hours earlier. They'd had the celebration of life there for
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Ike in that same building, on that same court. So
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: it was impactful. And you could tell our guys had
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: an appreciation for the enormity of the moment for this
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: game and what it meant to be down there. So
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I thought that was tremendous, and it's part of why
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: I jumped up on the broadcast there. You know I'm
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: a big Mountain East Conference guy. I've done that tournament
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: for years. Great respect, not only for the Glenville program,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: but that league. So that was fun. I jumped up
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: there with Bob for a little bit.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Well, you were invited on.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I asked if I could come up and do
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: a little bit with him, so I enjoyed that. That
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. I appreciate Bob letting me
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: in on his broadcast for a while. Team-wise, it was
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: what you would expect. I mean, the length and the
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: athleticism of West Virginia was on display. And listen, guys,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: that's a good Glenville State team. They were just picked
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: to finish second in the preseason MEC poll. In a
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: weird flip of the world we live in, they bring
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: back four of their five starters from last year.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Unprecedented.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Retention is key for Bob Bolin. I think he's a
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: tremendous basketball coach. Stephen Dye, assistant, Bill Lilly. who spent
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: some time here on John Beeline's staff as one of
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: the other assistants.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: How's Bill doing?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Doing great.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: He didn't make you laugh at all, did he?
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Now, he had a busy weekend. He was doing the
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: alumni golf event because it's homecoming weekend out there.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: That guy doesn't stop. He's constantly busy. Bill is.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: So I was, let me say this, I was impressed
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: with Glenville State and their ability, their talent, their ability
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: to run their offense throughout that whole game. But there
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: was just some defensive pressure with size and length that
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: you just don't normally see. That was a really good
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: performance by West Virginia. Did what you had to do
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: if you're WVU. Go out. play well, get a bunch
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: of people in the game. Keontae Graybear got his first action.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I was very impressed by him.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: And was as advertised. Hoppy, we've been talking about him
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: all summer, about how impressive he has been trying to
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: find his way into what is a crowded rotation. Keontae
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Graybear can play. MJ. MJ was fantastic.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: They didn't have to ask MJ to shoot, did they?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: He jumped in, banged out two threes. Max Oliash got
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: some time in there as well. So it was fun
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: to see all those guys. I think from a rotation
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: player perspective, Miles Sadler, that's just in.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: He's pretty good.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: He's pretty good.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: He's pretty good.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: He's pretty good.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: He can play.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: He got a message about he has to get on
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: the boards a little more, that at this level, everybody's
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: got to rebound. Six rebounds for Miles Sadler in this game.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Saney. Amadou Saney comes in and played extremely well again,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: led the team with eight rebounds. I thought Bilo and
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Javen Buchanan both came a long way from what the
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: first game looked like for both of them. They were tremendous.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: So exactly what you'd expect from a West Virginia team.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Impressed. Yeah. West Virginia shoots 47% from the field. They
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: shoot 32 from three. This might be a knock on wood.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Might be a good free throw shooting team.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: 82%.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: They shot them well. 43-21 advantage rebounds. And as Brad said,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: that's what you would expect. Man, I love Saney. He plays, man.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I just love Saney's size. We have not had that.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: That is a massive human being. That is an NBA-sized five-man.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And He will go get the ball, and he's so big,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: it just makes it difficult people just to get around him.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: He influences so much just by his presence on the floor.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: His ability to get out on the perimeter and get
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: back to is going to be massive, no pun intended
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: with his size, but his ability to get out and
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: show you can't just immediately take him. The other thing
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: that jumped out to me, West Virginia started with Seydou
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Traore on Glenville's point guard. That's going to be something
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: this year that you're going to see. You can take
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: a 6-6. Because Josan Sanin sat the game out as precautionary.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: He got dinged there in that Maryland game. So he
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: didn't play in this game just to give him some
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: extra time to recover from that hip bruise, quad bruise.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: And so Seydoux started. He may be the best defensive
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: player on that team, one of the best in this league.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: And he starts on the opposing team's point guard. That's
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: going to be a massive advantage when you do that.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: A guy with that size. We saw it against West
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Virginia last year. I thought that was on display again.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Just disrupts the whole offense. That leads to other guys.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Finley Bizjack gets three steals. Martin Somerville comes in, gets
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: four steals. So it leads to some downstream effects when
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: you can close off the start of the offense there.
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• 50:27
  Speaker 1: everyone For contributing, what a win, this texter says. That
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: was the personification of hard edge. Ben Cutter, the unsung
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: hero two weeks in a row. I'm so happy for him.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Will and willing.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Word is grit this week.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Grit.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Trey and St. Albans, wow, what a game. If you
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: look up the definition of bend but don't break defense,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: it will show you the highlights of West Virginia TCU.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: If someone would have told me that West Virginia's defense
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: would have gotten an interception, two fumble recoveries, a turnover
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: on downs, and a missed field goal, I would have
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: called them a liar through their face. Joe in Ohio,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: great win. Do you guys think we'll look back on
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: this game and say that was the game when we
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: turned the corner on defense?
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, maybe.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: What this was, too, guys, and we've talked about this
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: a lot over the years on the show, a lot
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: of games, it is a week-to-week business, and a lot
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: of games are predicated on matchups. This was a good
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: matchup for West Virginia, a team that was struggling to
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: run that maybe you could hold them in check, make
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: them one-dimensional, an offensive line that was struggling. You might
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: get some pressure out of that, which West Virginia had
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: been okay at. So the matchup worked in West Virginia's favor,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: and you took advantage of that. That doesn't mean you're
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: going to win the game, but the matchups in these
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: games matter. That's why we spend so much time going
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: through different matchup points.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: And statistically, a really good defense, Tony, but a defense
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: that had not played against a Hawkins and Cook.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Correct. That was very good, yeah. Texter says, there's always
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: a West Virginia connection. I'm at the PGA Frisco Resort
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: in Dallas. Can't make it into the game, unfortunately, but
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I ran into some guys. They were going to the game,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: so he's out there in Frisco. I noticed a shirt
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: that you would only see at fine-looking Phil's that I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: personally had bought there. Started talking to these guys. Started
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: talking Daniels and the Mountaineers. Didn't think I'd be talking
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Daniels and Dallas at 8 a.m. on a Saturday morning,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: but we are everywhere. By the way, I like that shirt.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I have not seen that one. I like those. Yeah,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: you've seen this.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: You just didn't pay attention. But it's a nice one.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Star City Blue.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I like those little pecks of those little white
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: little starbursts in that thing. That's nice.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: A little gold in there, too.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: A little gold.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I've never seen that shirt.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: You didn't acknowledge the Star City Blue. I just said
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: that you didn't deal with it.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I heard it. You know, that bridge is gone. This
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: bridge is going to be gone long enough now when
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: people start seeing the Star City, but they're going to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: look at you like crazy. If you know, you know.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Tony in Jupiter, Florida. Finally seeing much improved defense. Hopefully
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: they can build from here. Give us a chance for
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: one more win. You know, it was better. You know
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: it was a better game when Rich did not use
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the word conscientious in post-game. So you're saying Grit has
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: replaced conscientious.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: And also, we executed the plan. That was nice.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Hi, three guys. My name is Chris. My buddy is Chase.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: We're from Parkersburg. I got to meet Brad at the
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Glenville State scrimmage Friday night. I had a good talk
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: with him about the TCU game. I sent this in
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: before kickoff. But in Brad's terms, hopefully we aren't historically
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: bad on defense and just bad, and we come out
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: with a win. I also added a picture of when
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I met Tony in Wren in At the Boone County
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Pig Roast. Anyway, let's go Mountaineers. So you had your
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: picture made with those dudes.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Chris and Chase.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. On the floor of Glenville.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: They were nice after the game.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Fine guys. And then he sent this one as well.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: That was, oh, they cut Wren out. They cut Wren's
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: out of that picture. Anyway, Wren's on the far right.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And that's when we were at the Boone County Pig Roast.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: That's where the concert was going on. That was a
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: fun day. Big fans.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had that talk. We've been saying that about
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: the defense. It had been historically bad. Just be bad
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: or average. I mean, I think you were better than
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: bad in this game, and you got the win there.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: So good to see them. You know, real quick, they
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: came up after the game. There was all kinds of
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: people down on the court after the game. Our West
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Virginia players did an awesome job there. I think you
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: understand the moment and know that all the fans there
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: are also there to see you in addition to the
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: Glenville State guys. They stayed out on the floor for
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: a long time, as did Ross, taking pictures, signing autographs,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: doing a bunch of that. So kudos to the West
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Virginia players.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: That's neat.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Ross gets it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Ross does get it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, big fan of the show. Has there ever
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: been a program in college football or NFL this poor
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: at complementary football year after year? Why is it the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: offense and the defense are not allowed to be good
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: at the same time ever? No defense 2012 when Geno
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Smith was balling out. No defense. What a fitting win
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: for a Mountaineer team, exemplifying West Virginia qualities, true grit, determination.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Got a grit in there. honoring the passing of a
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: true West Virginia, Ike Morris. Great team win. Enjoy the
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: week off to rest and heal up before heading into
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: battle with Tech. Let's go about here. People struggle. It's
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: not just West Virginia, believe it or not, with complimentary football.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: They're talking about complimentary football at TCU as well. And yeah,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: but when you do put the two together, then you're really,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: really good. Texter says, Greer's last year when we should
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: have gone to the Big 12 title, no defense this year.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: where as many in the national media have pointed out,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins would be in the Heisman talks if we
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: had any defense at all. On the flip side, Neil
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Brown had this defense at its peak when the Stills brothers,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: when we couldn't do diddly-poo on offense, to quote the
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: great Jim Moore. So more complimentary.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Fighting Neil Brown's Mean Green had a nice win.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: They did. Yeah, they did. Beat the Navy. Just lined up,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: beat Navy. The entire Navy.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: The entire Navy. The Navy's preoccupied right now with other things.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Well, his quarterback must be pretty good. Yeah, I think so.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Went 17-23, I think, during Jaheim had like a 50-plus
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: yard run. A texter says, guys, I had to take
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: one for the team. I was listening to the radio yesterday.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I had it perfectly synced up to the TV, which
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: isn't easy sometimes. And when TCU goes up 13-10, I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: quickly run into the kitchen to grab a cookie, a
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Mexican chocolate chip, only to come back and the broadcast
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: was off. As we drove the field and scored, I
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: had no choice, but I had to keep things as
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: is and listen to the TV from then on. I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: couldn't risk it. So you're welcome, Mountaineer Nation. So there's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: a crazy person. Brian in Martinsburg, you guys seem to
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: have so much fun doing your show. Thank you guys
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: for taking time out to talk about WV sports. Also,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I'm wearing the hat again today, and we just took
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the lead. I may never take it off. So there's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: another crazy person. And that's not crazy with a capital C.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: It's a small C. I don't mean that crazy in
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: a malicious sense. We're all nuts.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: He's right. That's why they won.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Juan from Orlando. Hey, guys. I took some time to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: decompress after the game, but I believe this is the
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: kind of win which establishes the new pivot point for
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the program. The Ears haven't lost in Fort Worth since 2017,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: and I didn't see it starting today. I also heard
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: rumors that Tony rode into Amon Carter Stadium on a horseback.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: If we can get someone to confirm. No, but I
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: needed a horse.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: You were so far away.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Almost 30 minutes. It was 28, 29 minutes. What? They
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: parked us, yeah, from where they parked us.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: What is going on there?
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Normally, I'm like from here to the wall away from
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the press box. We just got a bad pass, and
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: so the SID came in. I may have mentioned it
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: on our way in. And the SID came in, and
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: he apologized, said it would never happen again. You said,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: do you know who I am? No, I didn't say
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: that at all, but I did rip him for the
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: location of the press box. He didn't have anything to
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: do with it, but I thought I'd just get some shots.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Is all the press in the end zone?
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I said, how come TV gets to get in
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the middle of the field? He said, well, you know.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: I said, well, what's down here to the middle of
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: the field? He goes, you know how many millions of
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: dollars those people pay for their seats? So that's all
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: he had to do, set me off. So I cranked
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: him up.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Did you?
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I said, you think this radio network produces millions of dollars?
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: You think TCU's radio network produces millions of dollars?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: You think there's value to broadcasting the game to millions
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: of people? Anyway.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm not getting any Gen Cutter cookies from
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: him come Christmas time.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: You lit him up? I would say this.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: It was probably loud enough that our producer of the broadcast,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: who's back in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, those guys were on
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the air while I was doing it, and they heard
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: me in the background. He said, well, who was Tony
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: yelling at? So it was apparently that loud. Fine. I
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: love the TCU people. Brian Estridge, I mean, those guys
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: are like family. Texter, I want to thank the three
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: guys for turning me on to the music of Charles
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Wesley Godwin. I got to see him. I'm going to
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: get to see him in Newport, Kentucky on November the 7th.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so stoked. From Parkersburg to Texas, now in Walton, Kentucky.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Long journey for us to hear some hillbilly music. Retired,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: almost heaven. West Virginia, great win for the defense. So
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: proud of them. So Charles is going to be in Charleston,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: West Virginia coming up here soon. It's November 7th. I
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: want to say 6. It's the night before we play
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the Texas Techs. Yeah, it would be November 6, right? 3, 4, 5, yeah. Yeah,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: so he's going to be in Charleston. But Big Mike's going. Oh, really?
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: My son, yeah, Big Mike's going to make the trip
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: in to see Chuck. And I'll probably see Chuck this weekend.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: It's Pepper Day this weekend. So he always comes to
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Pepper Day. He plays Pittsburgh this Friday night. Okay. Text her,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: that a boy, Ben Cutter. The young man put this
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: team on his back all week, held them together. For
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: this W, small defensive improvements lead to big defensive wins. Believe,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Mountaineer Nation, believe.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Show that picture again. Jay, can you show that picture
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: again of the fumble recovery?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Of the joy? Of the joy? Look at that. I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: think his mom, Jen, will probably have that in the house,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I would think. Big picture, a big color picture.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: That is awesome. Yeah. If you go, and I know
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: that not everybody's watching this, but if you go to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: the Metro News webpage, it's the lead photo on the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Metro News webpage.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: We had a couple of donors with us on the trip.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: They were sitting behind us on the plane. And they're
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: also involved with the volunteer fire department there in Parkersburg,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Wood County. So they're going to try to make an
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: NIL move to try to get Ben to become a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: fireman in Wood County because Ben, when he was here,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: told us he wants to be a fireman in Charlotte.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: So they're going to try to get him into Wood County.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: You could maybe go down with Ben Hoppe and show
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: him how to do the pull. You have experience in
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: a firehouse doing the pull.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have done the pull. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Well documented.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Texter, build the Ben Cutter brought to you by Tudor's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Biscuit World statue immediately. A great win, Dave and Cleveland.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Texter says, finally a statistical anomalous game in our favor.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Big word. Texter, win ugly. Thanks for having us. Ben,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: don't break defense. Wish offense could have capitalized on the turnovers.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Best case scenario, splitting the final two games? Hey, Tony,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: do you have any tips? for twins who are two
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: months old. Hmm. Look at those little, look at those
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: little angels.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Here's what I'm going to tell you, Phil. And my
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: wife will say, yeah, yeah, you did a lot with
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: our twins. But bring in reinforcements like anybody and everybody,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: family members, you just need help. Don't try to go
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: at it alone. There's strength in numbers. Do that. And
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: once you get through the first, you know, year and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: a half, two years, and they become buddies, then it's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: off and you're rocking. But it's hard.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I can't defer to you on that, obviously. Can
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I go to the win-ugly comment? Because I didn't see
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: it as an ugly win because rarely at the collegiate
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: level or any level do you see a game, Brad,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: where everything goes according to plan.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: You just don't. Like, oh my gosh, everything was magnificent.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: But to me, the beauty was offensively and defensively making plays.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: That, to me, was a beautiful thing. Yeah, and it
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: was a different kind of win. West Virginia's not used
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: to having to win in that fashion this season, so
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: it was a different kind of win.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have called that ugly. It just was different.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: It was a battle. That's what it was. Grit. It
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: was a gritty battle.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: And, you know, again, the offensive performance wasn't historic, but
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: that Hawkins touchdown run, that's just, you look at that,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: and I know that We shouldn't be making the Pat
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: White comparison, but I looked very much like a Pat
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: White runner.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was Pat.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Very much. Because there was a guy, he came, I guess,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: about eight or ten yards past the line. He came
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: up to a guy, and that guy had no chance.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Hawkins just left him.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Those are, I mean, he's a dude. There was one
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: in the, I think it was the first half, though,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: that got me thinking like this. I can't say that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: I like them more than when he takes off in
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: a big touchdown run, but I do giggle to myself.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: When he drops back to pass and everybody clears out,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: he takes off around the edge, and he's going about
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: 62% of his max. And he's running, and he's looking,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I got a lot of green, and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: you guys ain't getting to me. And I'm just going
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: to run, and I'm headed to the sideline. I see
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: you coming. You're not going to get here. I'll just run.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: I see where the sticks are. I'm going to get
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: a first down. I got a first down, move the sticks.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: And it's not even close to max effort.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: I just giggle when he does that. Around the eye,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: I see you down there. I'm just going to go
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: ahead and run. Just out for a jog. Just going
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: to get the first down on a jog.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Huge one. Love this. Huge game for him with a
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: lot of his family there. Oh, really?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, happy for both him and Cam, right? Returning
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: back to Texas there.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Lined up. Logan and Mannington, second WVU game that
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I was wearing my GoMart hat, and we won twice.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: So I think I cannot go without it on Saturdays now.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Good rest week. See what that brings us after the bye.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Good win. So you've got a guy now with a Go-Mart.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: He's right, Logan. That's exactly right.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Go-Mart, Big Candy. I mean, we are into
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the final run here before Halloween. Are they sold out? No,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: they have candy. I called the other day. I said,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: do you still have candy? And they said, do we
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: have candy? We've got the Big Candy Special, which is
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: going on right now. So keep this one. In mind,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Rewards members, if you have the app, you can get
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Hershey's Standard Size 2 for $ 4 this month. 2 for
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: $ 4 on a Hershey's Standard Size bar. And if you're
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: more of a salty snack person, go with a Slim
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Jim Monster for just $ 2. Get that GoMart Rewards app
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: and do it.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Got my gas on.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: You guys, I was thinking of you.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: It was close. Couldn't get there pre-game. Had to make
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: a nighttime diversion over to the Postal Plaza Go-Mart here
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: in Morgantown to get filled up on Saturday.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: How close were you?
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: That was close.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to the mile ground immediately after this show.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I got 29 miles left.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I was thinking to you guys, I'm at 33,000 feet
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: last night flying home. Speaking of this Hershey bars and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the Slim Jims, I could not have eaten worse. Oh, really?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I was like.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Well, this is something new. How could you not even...
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: This is a wild new development.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: They blew my mind. Like, I ate anything and everything.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: And they come by every 15 minutes with food.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Well, they hadn't been doing that on most of these trips,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: or I've been sleeping. She comes by with the Kit Kats,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: the peanut M & Ms. I said, I'll take one
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: of each. Did you drink a bag of peanut M
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: & Ms? Drank a bag of peanut M & Ms.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: He's classic.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: He literally drinks it.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I ate those quasi-protein things that they say are healthy,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: but they're not. Those chewy little chocolate things. Crushed those. Like,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: three bags of potato chips. Like, couldn't stop.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, and then wait a second, wait. And
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: the first time this season that I've seen this, they
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: come down late.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: They have ice cream bars?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: The ice cream bars. And I didn't do it.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: You didn't? You ate all the other stuff and didn't partake.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: In the ice cream?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: It's a win, too.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I know. And that's my normal rule. Would have never
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: eaten all the other stuff if I knew they had
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: ice cream.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: We had to. And a rare move of self-control by
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: the two of us years ago. We used to just giggle.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Because they would bring ice cream bars on the way down, right?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Remember, you were on the plane.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you had better self-control than the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: two of us. We would be over there just hammering
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: an ice cream bar on the way down. And up
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: to Syracuse, just give me one of those ice cream bars.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: So rare, rare move by us. We had to institute
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: a rule only after wins. You've continued that? Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Only on a win. And then last night, I was like.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: And by the way, all those snacks you're talking about,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: that's in addition to the food, the meals.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I had a full turkey sub. As well. That's before
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: we took off. Anyway, it was a bad week here.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't happen very often to you. I'm sure
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: that was a one-week situation.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very rare. Normally you're the.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: So great discipline.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I'm the model. Speaking of GoMart, very much looking forward
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: to this week. I'm going to read my new children's book.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Here it is. Have I shown it? Here we go.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: No, you haven't shown it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: There it is. Yeah. Watch where you put your feet down.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: The illustrations are outstanding. I want to give a shout-out.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Those are good. Oh, that's fantastic. A young lady named
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Brianna Carter did the illustrations in this book. That's Cooper's Rock.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to— You've got a Harper's Ferry in there.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: There they are.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: You've got the Mountain View Furniture.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there they go. Is the Go-Mart Gopher in there?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Is that what that was?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: Is the Go-Mart Gopher in there?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the Gopher.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: And for the kids. So Go-Mart— is giving a free
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: one of these to every first grader in West Virginia.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: So you're doing that this week.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: You're going to read.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Are you wearing the Go-Mart costume while you read?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: No, Marty's going to be there. You're not going to be, Marty?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I'm touring with Marty. Tomorrow, Sutton Elementary. And then I'm
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: also going to Beckley tomorrow, Staniford Elementary. And then Tuesday,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Bell Elementary and Milton Elementary. And then Thursday, Wood County,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Blennerhassett Elementary.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: And then home game. Thursday afternoon, Brookhaven. Is Brian Lamb
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: going to get you on C-SPAN? Do a book read?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I read your book, Tony, prior to our show today.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Very nicely done. Very clever. It's a poem.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, it rhymes.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: I'm big into rhyming. I'm big into rhyming.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Did you use the rhyming dictionary?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: For that?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I can't even remember now. But no, I just, I've taken,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, there were some rewrites on it. Some things
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I looked back on.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Well, good editor.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked back.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: Have you taken any of those full-size Hershey bars you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: were just talking about from Go-Mart in there?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: No, but you know what?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: You're not taking treats?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: All the first graders that get the book for free,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a coupon in there to get
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: a frizzle at Go-Mart for free. That's kind of nice.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: That is nice.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I need to get one. A buddy of mine has
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: got a first grader.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: A book or a frizzle?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: A book.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Both. Text or postgame, never thought I'd say thank you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: to the defense for back-to-back weeks of making stops when
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: we had to. Kudos to the MSN Twitter account for
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: providing the soundtrack of key calls on my postgame walk. Oh,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: that was Jennings. Text her, well, the field goal hex
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: came in clutch again today. The wife said I may
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: have to dress up as a wizard for Halloween now.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: The win was brought to us by Cutter's Cookies, James,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the lawman from Fairmont. So he does something. What's he do?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Run around his house, stick a pole in his head
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: or something?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of things.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Whatever it takes. Pat from Wheeling, hello. My grandson played
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: in a baseball tournament, 10 and under, of course, in
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Hurricane Saturday.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: One of 72 that were in Hurricane this weekend.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Can't play enough travel ball. I listened to the TCU
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: game on my Bluetooth hearing aids.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, very good.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: That's nice. Great game. Great call on your recommendation. After
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: the baseball games, we went to Bad Happy Burritos.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: Ah, very good.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: It was three and a half miles from the park.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: It was delicious. Oddly, we walked in, and a girl
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: we know from Wheeling was working there. Of course she was.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: She goes to Marshall. Yeah. We did not know that
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: she worked there.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: You should expect that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: He said, then I went and got gas at the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Go-Mart at Taze Valley exit, the one north of the interstate.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Checked a lot of boxes there.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Very good.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Hope he went and sat in a Lou Wendell boat
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: there right off the exit.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to eat in Charleston tomorrow night.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Chef Paul Smith's restaurant.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, are you? Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Looking forward to that. Never been there. I'll eat
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: healthier than I did on the plane.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Probably. He probably doesn't have any peanut M & Ms
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Hey, Paul, could you get me a Slurpee? Gents, I
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: was watching the game on TV. Family time called for
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: a promised trip to our little kids to the pumpkin
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: patch right at 3 p.m. Two toddlers and my two-year-old nephew.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: So glad we got to listen to the game on
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: the Varsity app. In the moment, it gave my wife
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: and I chills. The remainder of the evening, I've been
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: annoying her with just screaming at his wife, The ball's loose!
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: The ball's loose!
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's after it. So his wife probably not taking
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: kindly to that.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: You did give us an enthusiastic, the ball is loose, Tony.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize what I had said until I went
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: back and listened. You didn't know? It was good.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: The ball was loose.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: It was an important moment. And it was, again, prison
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: of the moment. It was a good fumble because it
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: was a fumble and you could see the ball and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: it was a moment, you know, so it was like
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: the ball was loose.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: You gave it a good fumble.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Yes. You know what?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: It just takes like, and who's going to get it?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Because you could see, because sometimes it's in the mesh
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: and you can't tell and they've got to pull people.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: The ball's loose.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: You know what worried me?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Ben did a nice job rooting in there.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: You're right. That was a good fumble recovery.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Tell you what worried me, though.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: So Ben runs out of there with his helmet off. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: And my initial thought was, did he take his helmet off?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: And are you going to get penalized here? You know,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: and so that was but apparently how did that helmet.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Was pulled off? It was pulled off by one of
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: those students. Of all things, Ben is it is not
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: a take your helmet off kind of guy. So, yeah,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: that was that was he did.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: He did take off with the ball, though.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: He did about a four six down there with the ball.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Vaughn in Morgantown. This was pretty wild. We
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: did our annual brew day for the game today. It's
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: just a bunch of us WVU fans brewing beer and
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: listening to Tony on the radio. This year's edition is
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: a white IPA to honor Pat's number being retired. Always
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: a morale boost when the good guys win. It feels
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: good to see measured improvement from last season. Let's go, Mountaineers.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: And then they sent this picture, which worries the living
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: heck out of me. They got a turkey fryer, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: this is problematic. a propane tank, and a turkey fryer,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: and these guys drinking beer. Sometimes that does not end well.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It made me nervous.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: That sounds like they're veterans. They know what they're doing.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, they look like they were pretty secure around.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would have an independent, like, what do
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: you have, a designated driver? I would have a designated
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: fryer in that case.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: Well, they might. They say they do it every year.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: They got it.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I just thank you guys.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: We appreciate it.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Be careful when you drop that turkey in the oil.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: There's nothing better than those fried turkeys.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Disagree.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Excuse me?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Did you have a bad situation, bad experience? You didn't
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: do it right, and now you've got to blame turkeys?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: In fairness, I've only had it one time. So in fairness.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, yo, jump on him. He killed the entire turkey
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: frying industry because he had one bad experience.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to kill him for his opinion. He
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: doesn't like it. He only tried it once, and he
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: screwed it up. Well, you're food shaming him again. That's
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: his opinion that he didn't like it.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Well, you didn't get the oil hot enough?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: You just know it wasn't good.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: I hate turkeys.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: Those guys love theirs.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: That's fine. I'm happy for them.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean he has to love it.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: You know, when it comes to food, you're really intolerable.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: You really are.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Huge win and confidence builder for the much maligned defense.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: It's so frustrating to hear you constantly say wide open.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: The run defense much improved. They made a few stops
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  Speaker 1: in crunch time. Kudos to Zach Alley for rushing more
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: than three on the final drive. The pressure worked. Please
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: keep that up. Happy for the team. Coaches, three guys.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: There's Rich in Satellite Beach, Florida. Hello. Will in Connecticut writes,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: very proud of the team, especially the D. I don't
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: think my techs made it on the last episode, but
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: they did exactly what I was asked for them to do.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Turnover is huge. The ability to bend, don't break, limit
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: big plays. There's the limit to big plays, right? Explosives.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: With the way things are going in the Big 12,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: and nationally, there should be a lot of optimism for
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: this team going into the bye week. I did want
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: to say that. that the significance of this win is
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: massive mentally in the sense that if you lost that game,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: you have 14 days just to just fester. Yeah. You
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: have 14 fester days. Now you have 14 days of joy.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: You just high-step joy. Joy is the name for the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: next two weeks.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Unbridled joy.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. As identified by Mike Hawkins.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And as first reported by you in Omaha.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Man found joy. Some find salvation. Hoppy found joy. If
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: you ever told me earlier in the week our defense
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: would have won us the game, I would have laughed.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Defense showed up big time. Ben Conner coming up with
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: the ball at the end made me want to order
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: some cutter cookies.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: Good for business.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: You know, if we package those with coffee for the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Christmas holiday, that'll be special. I listened to the full
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: game on the radio.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: People have to do work to get that done, not
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: just say it.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I did hear from Homeless Dave. He said we're going
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: to open up our Christmas catalog for three guys November
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: 4 or 5.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: November 5.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: I think it was 5.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I listened to the full game on the radio for
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: the first time in a long time as we drove
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: the scenic highway, Beartown and Droop Mountain. Felt nostalgic to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: hear the call of the game. Great day to be
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: a Mountaineer, wherever you may be. Signed by Caleb on
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: the edge of the gorge in Fayetteville. Our buddy Logan
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: checks in from Lewisburg. This was interesting to me. I'm
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: a little confused. I'm concerned about Logan. I spent my
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Saturday at a pumpkin patch with very close friends from church.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: I listened to the whole game on my phone while
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I was walking through a corn maze and When Ben
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Cutter recovered the fumble, I was celebrating in the middle
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: of the maze. I went and got ice cream after
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the maze, and it was apple cider float with soft
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: serve ice cream. And he said, he writes here, Brad,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: it tasted like victory. Let's enjoy this win and get
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: healed during the off week. I'll be up for Kansas.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Appreciate all the work you guys do. How big was
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: this corn maze? He said he listened to the whole
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: game while walking through a corn maze.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you get turned around in the corn maze. Takes
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: a minute to get out.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, did he need help? Was he stranded?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Did he say whole game or just while he was
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: in there?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: I listened to the whole game on my phone while
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: I was walking through a corn maze.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a whole game on your phone. I don't
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: know if he was in the corn maze the whole time.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Might have been. That's a huge corn maze.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's still in there. By the way, Cutter, in
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: the postgame, Ben gave all the credit to a FOGO.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, that's typical Ben.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: And in fact, he said, let's talk about David Afogo
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: so you can give him some love.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: Was the direct quote.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Good job by Ben.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Joe and Charles.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Because Ben doesn't recover the fumble there if Afogo doesn't.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: It's correct.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: That's how that works.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: When the ball was loose.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Now the ball had to be knocked loose for Ben
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: to be able to get the fumble.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: That was timely.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Both David Afogo and Harper Holliman, they played well.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: We've been lacking edge pressure recently. Right, all season.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Did Zeke Durham Campbell have a sack as well? He
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: was in there.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: He was involved.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Your pressure guys got pressure.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: How about we haven't mentioned, and it was a downside
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: of it, but boy, that Epps bobble drop that was.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: There was the explosive pass play. I said you didn't
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: have many.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: That was theirs.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: A texter says, Brad was spot on with the statement
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: saying West Virginia needed five or six stops on defense
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: to win the game. They got six. I saw how
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: empty the stands were. WVU far from the only team
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: in the Big 12 with those issues. This team has
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: been hanging around all year, forgotten by national folks, but
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: with November's schedule, they can throw a wrench in anybody's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: playoff hopes. Hawkins can beat anyone on a given day.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Signed by Joe in Charleston. The lack of attendance at TCU.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: is something that always makes me just, i shake my
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: head because they've.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: Been good i mean they've they've been really good they
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: got a 2023 college football national championship game appearance up
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: on their wall yeah and i don't know why.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: It's just not it just doesn't seem coming it just
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem like that it's a Why?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: It's Texas.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: It's football in Texas.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Private school, maybe.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that has a lot to do with it,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: to be quite honest. But it was also homecoming, so
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I thought, it's hard, man. It's hard. All right.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: And it's, again, sometimes, Tony, there are challenges in pro towns.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: And I know that the pro town is Dallas, but
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: You're right, it's the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, and there's just
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: other things.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: I understand. I get it.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that the biggest story in that Metroplex is
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: All the time. 24-7.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: Just is.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: So what did we decide before the show?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, whatever. That's their job to figure out.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Game operations, you're not concerned.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I'm wearing a Rev Kev barbecue shirt.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Notice that.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: They won an award.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: Excuse me?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: In all seriousness, they did. They won best of award
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: this past week for their food.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: What kind of major award? I think, yeah, it was
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: a Morgantown-based award. So I was happy for those guys.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: So Kobe and Tracy. Yes, yes. Those are the guys.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Those are the two dudes. And they've done a fantastic
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: job taking the mantle from the Rev. I mean, I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: think Rev will get out there once in a while
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: and throw a piece of wood in nowadays, but he.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: He's kind of handed off.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's taught Kobe and Tracy, so congratulations to those guys.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: Those guys are great on Saturdays over there with us.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this. We ate barbecue Friday
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: night in Texas, and it was fantastic. Rev Kev is
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: right there. Like, Rev Kev could go serve that food
• 1:20:51
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• 1:20:53
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  Speaker 2: Show that Ben Cutter picture again.
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  Speaker 1: God, Hop. I mean, geez, Hop. Jake, can you show
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: the Ben Cutter picture one more time? Our boy is,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: that's America. Yeah, that one should go.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Mike's off. Mike's off.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Mike's off. That one should go in the building.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If he would have had one of Jen's oatmeal
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: cream pie cookies in his mouth or his hand.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: And a big bag of Mountaineer Roasting coffee.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: I can probably take care of that.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: He should have taken his jersey off and wore a
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: piece of apparel from Daniels. Or had a quarter zip
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: on on the field.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: You know how he looks? You know what his emotion
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: is there?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Joy.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: We're out. Special thank you to our producer, Jake. So
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: what did we say we're doing Friday morning?
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  Speaker 3: Back later this week. Just subscribe, follow, whatever you need
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: to do because it gets a little wonky here over
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: the next few weeks.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: We've got some basketball Wednesday. We've got basketball. So we'll
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: probably come back Friday. Brad's got other things going on.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Are we going to talk about that at all? No.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Fun little note, though, before the wheeling game.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: 20 seconds.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: There won't be a whole wheeling preview. Quincy Pitsnagel, Pitsnagel
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: returning to the Coliseum will be a fun night. MEC
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: coach of the year, Chris Richardson, brings the Cardinals in.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: All right. That'll do it for us. Might as well
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: post this thing up since there's only six seconds to go.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to three guys before the game.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Oh.