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Wired To Hunt Podcast #156: Expert Food Plot Insights with Steve Scott · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one fifty
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  Speaker 1: six tay in the show. We are joined by Steve
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  Speaker 1: Scott of the White Tailed Institute of North America and
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  Speaker 1: we're diving into all things food plots. All right, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Sick Gear, and as I just mentioned, joining me here
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  Speaker 1: shortly to discuss a wide variety of food plotting topics
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  Speaker 1: is Steve Scott of the White Tail Institute of North America,
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  Speaker 1: and over the next hour or so we are going
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  Speaker 1: to cover it all. Food plotting advice for beginners all
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  Speaker 1: the way to more advanced food plotting tactics and concepts
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  Speaker 1: for those that are more experienced. So, whether you already
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  Speaker 1: plant acres and acres of tasty white tail food every
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  Speaker 1: year or have just been mulling around the possibility of
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  Speaker 1: doing it, this episode is for you. Now. On today's episode,
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  Speaker 1: my trustee co host Dan is not along with us,
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  Speaker 1: so I want to take a quick second during this
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  Speaker 1: Onto the next order of business, I want to mention
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  Speaker 1: again that I'll be speaking at the two thousand seventeen
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  Speaker 1: Quality Deer Management Association National Convention this July down in
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans. And if you've been on the fence about
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  Speaker 1: going or not, you should just go. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be an incredible event. There's a bunch of great speakers,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun events, and I've been to the
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  Speaker 1: summer or sorry to the convention in past years. It's
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  Speaker 1: been terrific. Highly recommend it. So I'm gonna be speaking
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  Speaker 1: on Friday, July one, and as I mentioned a few
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago, that's gonna be a live broadcast or live
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  Speaker 1: recording of a podcast episode. So head on down New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans joined me for that podcast. You can ask some questions.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. I would love
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  Speaker 1: to see you guys down there. So with all that
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  Speaker 1: out of the way, I think now we can get
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  Speaker 1: the show on the road. So let's pause briefly for
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  Speaker 1: our sickest story of the week and then we'll dive
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  Speaker 1: into a great discussion on food plots. So from here,
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  Speaker 1: producer Spencer new Hearth will take it away. For this
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  Speaker 1: week's Sitka story, we're joined by Bryce Lambley, a Sitka
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  Speaker 1: white Tail ambassador, who tells us about an improbable hunt
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  Speaker 1: with his longbow at ground level in a Nebraska corn
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  Speaker 1: field wells October have two thousand and seven and my
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  Speaker 1: first year wearing six good gear, and I was having
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  Speaker 1: a hard time finding the deer and the place and
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  Speaker 1: I usually go then is into the corn field, and
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  Speaker 1: it's an irrigated corn field, so truly it's a jungle
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  Speaker 1: in there. But there's a lane to the center pivot,
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  Speaker 1: and I climbed the center pivot and about sunset, really
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  Speaker 1: nice buck walked out along the along the pivot lane
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  Speaker 1: and there's some grassy area in there. I figured I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have anything to lose, so I went into the
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  Speaker 1: corn and tiptoe down the corn rows to the center
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  Speaker 1: pivot track that I thought would bring me out within
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  Speaker 1: range of the buck. It was pretty crunchy in there,
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  Speaker 1: and I've decided that I had nothing to lose. I
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  Speaker 1: was positive by now the deer had heard me, and
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  Speaker 1: so I began pulling on ears of corn and making
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  Speaker 1: noise on purpose, including a little bit of grunting, hoping
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  Speaker 1: that the deer would think it was just another deer.
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  Speaker 1: As I reached the second pivot tracked, I began going
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  Speaker 1: back towards the lane where I thought the deer might
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  Speaker 1: be out in the in the open, And it turned
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  Speaker 1: out the deer was right in in the pivot track,
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  Speaker 1: almost with me, and I got within five yards and
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he was there, and I realized
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  Speaker 1: that that I was not going to probably get a shot.
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  Speaker 1: We had kind of a face off, and the buck
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  Speaker 1: bounded back out into the into the open, but he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't completely spooked, and I was able to tiptoe a
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  Speaker 1: few rows closer to the edge, and sure enough he
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  Speaker 1: was standing there, and as it turned out, about twelve
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  Speaker 1: yards away, and I was able to get an arrow
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  Speaker 1: through the between the cornstocks and with my longbow, and
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  Speaker 1: I wacked him pretty good, and he ran across the
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  Speaker 1: opening into the corn on the other side, where I
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  Speaker 1: could visually track his progress until I heard a big
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  Speaker 1: thud And have an improbable hunt, and one of my
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  Speaker 1: most exciting ones certainly wasn't one of my biggest deer,
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  Speaker 1: but absolutely one of the most exciting encounters I've had
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  Speaker 1: on bryces On, which took place in eastern Nebraska. He
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Alright with me, now on the line is
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  Speaker 1: Steve Scott. Welcome to the show, Steve Mark. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you having me. Yeah, absolutely, I'm I'm excited to chat.
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  Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed our conversations and a t a in
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  Speaker 1: different things in the past, So I'm glad we can
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  Speaker 1: do this here today. And how are you doing. I'm blessed.
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  Speaker 1: I had a great weekend. I hope you did. And Uh,
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  Speaker 1: family is good, business is growing and uh fixing the
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  Speaker 1: gold vacation here in about a week, so everything's great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: where you headed? Actually headed out to the northwestern United States. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: my son lives out there, but my wife and I
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  Speaker 1: followed in love with that part of the world over
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  Speaker 1: the last few years and love the mountains and the
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  Speaker 1: cooler weather and started to heat up down here in
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  Speaker 1: Alabama this time of year, so we enjoy getting out
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  Speaker 1: of it and going joining some cooler weather. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a week or two and just no plans
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  Speaker 1: other than seeing my son and his wife. Just just relaxing. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that'll be really nice. That is beautiful out there. It
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  Speaker 1: sure is. I spent a lot of time, not quite
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  Speaker 1: in the Northwest, but over Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, and gosh,
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  Speaker 1: that mountain there, it's crisp, cool and pretty darn nice.
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  Speaker 1: I would encourage everybody if I can figure out a
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  Speaker 1: way to put it on their bucket list. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I knew it's pretty out there, but until I drove
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  Speaker 1: into it the first time, it was just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like how hard to explain how beautiful it is,
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  Speaker 1: how nice it is. So if we if we don't
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  Speaker 1: talk about food plucks, we can talk about the travel channel. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: but but it is, it's awesome looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. Well, I'm jealous. I'll be heading back out
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  Speaker 1: mid July. I'll be heading back to the mountains, so um,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be right behind you. Oh are you going fishing? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a lot of fishing and some hiking
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  Speaker 1: and yaking and all that. And then I have got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of hunts planned out there for late August
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  Speaker 1: early September two so she should be quite the trip hopefully.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not likely gonna have a big time.
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  Speaker 1: So and I know when we recently discussed having this
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  Speaker 1: conversation we need to talk about we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: our travel plans. But uh, but it's all it's always
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  Speaker 1: good to visit with you on the food plots and
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  Speaker 1: what's going on in our lives as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I look forward to my triop to look forward to
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  Speaker 1: here and I go trip goes. So yeah, absolutely, I'll
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  Speaker 1: keep you posted. And um, I guess we should stay
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  Speaker 1: on track, I suppose. And you know, food plots, of course,
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  Speaker 1: are something that a lot of our listeners utilize and
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  Speaker 1: focus on in their management hunting plans. But I think
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  Speaker 1: today we sometimes just at least hunters maybe they are
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  Speaker 1: getting into it today, think that food plots have just
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  Speaker 1: been always a part of the deer hunting world. It's
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  Speaker 1: there's such a part of the deer hunting world today.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone remembers what it was like
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  Speaker 1: before that, But where I kind of want to kick
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  Speaker 1: things off, Steve, is that time before food bluts, because
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  Speaker 1: your company, Waitetail Institute and your family has been largely
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  Speaker 1: credited with really launching the whole food plot industry and
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  Speaker 1: this this trend now that dominates so much of the
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  Speaker 1: hunting world here in North America. So I was hoping Steve,
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  Speaker 1: you could tell us that's the story, you know, how
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  Speaker 1: did this whole thing again? Mall and I appreciate that,
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  Speaker 1: and and we do we do, uh take credit forward
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  Speaker 1: and we were recognized as the people that started the
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  Speaker 1: food plot craze. And it was back in when we
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  Speaker 1: actually launched the White Tail Institute. Going back from there
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. We we've been down here in
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  Speaker 1: the South. We've been playing green fields, going calling it
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  Speaker 1: more of a green field, whether it be like we
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  Speaker 1: run oats and uh just to attract there in the
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  Speaker 1: following winter. We've been doing that since I can remember
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  Speaker 1: which I started hunting back in the I guess it
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  Speaker 1: would have been the early seventies. We've always done that
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  Speaker 1: and over the years, I give my dad credit Race Scott,
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  Speaker 1: he uh uh, he was involved in that, and he
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  Speaker 1: was the one paying for the seed and the fertilizer
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  Speaker 1: in Lineman all In and I was doing a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the work. But one year, uh, the guy that
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  Speaker 1: he bought a bunch of sea from through a bag
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  Speaker 1: of seed on the truck. So, hey, Rachel, I want
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  Speaker 1: you to try this. And it was just a clover
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  Speaker 1: product and uh, and he said, well, what I need
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  Speaker 1: to do? He said, just you know, plant it out
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  Speaker 1: there with you other stuff, you know, maybe put it
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  Speaker 1: by itself, and told him a little bit how to planet, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Speaker 1: So my dad kind of set up a buffet, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, and you know, wheat here right there, oates there,
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  Speaker 1: clover there, weak road, what have you? Kind of just
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  Speaker 1: set it up like a you know, a cafeteria style.
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  Speaker 1: And the first time he hunted it, he watched deer
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  Speaker 1: walk out the woods and walked through to a three
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  Speaker 1: different things to get to this clover that he planted.
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  Speaker 1: And he was thinking, you know, I didn't think a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot about it, but it was interesting. But the
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  Speaker 1: next time he went, the same thing happened and the
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  Speaker 1: light came on. He's like, what's going on here? And
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  Speaker 1: so he put other people in there and they saw
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  Speaker 1: the same thing going on. And he wanted to know
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  Speaker 1: why giving him credit and his inquisitiveness. Um and he
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  Speaker 1: tracked it down to the clover that he had planned
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  Speaker 1: was actually developed by a gentleman name Dr. Wiley Johnson
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  Speaker 1: and Auburn University. And he called him up and asked
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  Speaker 1: about by it and he said, yeah, he said this
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  Speaker 1: to this more preferable than cheryl grains. He said one
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  Speaker 1: other thing, that it's much more nutritious. And so one
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  Speaker 1: thing led to another and and uh and my dad
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  Speaker 1: end up hiring Dr Wiley Johnson. He was our first
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  Speaker 1: a grindumous plant breeder and uh, and asked him if
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  Speaker 1: he could develop a clover specifically for deer. He said, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's kind of where it started, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: an idea from him. Dr Wiley Johnson. He worked on
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  Speaker 1: our first variety UMU was introduced many many many years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, the first variety club ever to develop specifically
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  Speaker 1: for deer. And since then we've introduced new varieties ongoing
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  Speaker 1: and we continue to work on new varieties to make
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  Speaker 1: it you know what more heat, heat resisted, drought tolerant,
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  Speaker 1: cold tolerant, etcetera. Uh, nutrition and ceiling bigger, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things that we select for. But that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of where it started. And uh in giving you know,
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  Speaker 1: my dad credit, Race got credit. Uh. He he believed
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  Speaker 1: that if uh, if he liked it install the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of it, which included starting to see a better quality
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  Speaker 1: dere over time, Uh, that other people would appreciate it too.
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  Speaker 1: And he spent the money on educating the public through
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  Speaker 1: advertising and marketing and providing a quality product. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what right at thirty years ago now and uh and
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  Speaker 1: here we are today. It's something as you say, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Uh, uh that it is. I guess
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of folks that, you know, don't know
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  Speaker 1: the history of food pluts because I mean thirty year
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  Speaker 1: old folks. I mean they weren't there, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: had no idea what was going on at the time.
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  Speaker 1: So it's uh, it's come a long way. It's uh
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  Speaker 1: it's been fun. Uh learned a lot. Uh and but
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  Speaker 1: it's been it's been rewarding to too. Uh. Uh to
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  Speaker 1: see where people have gone from just seeing a planning um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a pasch of week to managing the property
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  Speaker 1: including part of the food plut's being part of that
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and the enjoyment that people get out of
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  Speaker 1: it from just as opposed to just spending a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a few weekends a year hunting. Now they're starting to
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  Speaker 1: spend you know, a great deal more time on their property. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, taking care of their food plots,
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  Speaker 1: planting food plots, planning food plots, you know, managing their timber,
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the property, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And it's
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  Speaker 1: it's uh, it's been rewarding. And the other biggest thing
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  Speaker 1: would be is the quality of deer. How he has
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  Speaker 1: changed since thirty years ago, um, when we started, uh
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  Speaker 1: providing products and the information. A guy today is five
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  Speaker 1: time more likely to kill a deer that qualifies for
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  Speaker 1: the record books than he was before we started. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's those those are staggering numbers. And um and
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  Speaker 1: if we don't take all of that credit, but we're
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  Speaker 1: going to take our share of it. Yeah, fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty incredible that that it's it's been an amazing
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  Speaker 1: evolution as an industry and as just a culture, a
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  Speaker 1: kind of subculture within the deer hunting world. I'm curious,
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  Speaker 1: what about your own evolution as a wopplay user, just
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  Speaker 1: you personally, How is that? How is that transitioned over time?
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  Speaker 1: And and why do you personally used for food plots? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean I'm in a very very unique
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  Speaker 1: situation that I get to hunt over ground where we
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of our testing, uh locally local testing.
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  Speaker 1: We test everywhere from Alabama, I mean, the Tennessee, Iowa,
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  Speaker 1: in the Minnesota, New York, uh and all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: But like, for example, when we do cafeteria tests to
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  Speaker 1: see which which which particular variety of see that there
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  Speaker 1: may like. And I'm getting to hunt over that. But
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  Speaker 1: not only am I getting to watch some interesting things
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  Speaker 1: where you know, where you if you watch you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll say ten deer walk into a food plot in
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  Speaker 1: six or eight I've walked through you know, two, three
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  Speaker 1: or four or five six things to get to one
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  Speaker 1: particular badge. You know, it's kind of it's interesting to see.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing that I've gotten the benefit of
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  Speaker 1: is uh not only seeing more deer, which you know,
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  Speaker 1: ultimately that's what I want to do, but I've also
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  Speaker 1: seen a lot better quality there than what we used
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  Speaker 1: to you know, down here in Alabama, Like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of places where if they had had horns. We killed it.
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  Speaker 1: Back in the day, UM, it didn't matter how big
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  Speaker 1: those horns are or were. Uh. Whereas now we've moved
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  Speaker 1: up to where were You know, we're looking for something
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  Speaker 1: that's that's mutable generally, unless you know, we've got a
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  Speaker 1: new hunter or uh, somebody that's just not had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of success, we'll wearing like them will pretty much
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  Speaker 1: anything they won't they see something like like it. It's legal,
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  Speaker 1: you know, have at it. Yeah, I am speaking of
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  Speaker 1: some of the other of using food plots, something that
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  Speaker 1: you and we had talked about a couple of years ago. UM.
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  Speaker 1: I had actually written an article for my website UM
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  Speaker 1: about the intangible benefits of food plots, and and you
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  Speaker 1: had seen that and liked it, and we ended up
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  Speaker 1: republishing that within White Tailed News UM. And we had
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  Speaker 1: some conversations around just the different benefits of food plots
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  Speaker 1: that that aren't just how they improve your hunting or
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  Speaker 1: how they improve your herd health, but some of the
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  Speaker 1: other things that we as just people get from understanding
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  Speaker 1: food plots and giving back and planning food plot Can
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  Speaker 1: you can you talk a little about that for you
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel you know those things in your own
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  Speaker 1: you know world, and how you utilize food plots. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know it's uh, you know, my mind's running a
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  Speaker 1: hundred different directions. But I'm not sure this is answering
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  Speaker 1: the questions specifically that you ask. But you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of the neat things that about the food plots is is, yes,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing it, um with an ulterior motive. We want
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  Speaker 1: more deer and we want better quality there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's why people do it. But at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, the deer are benefiting. All the deer are benefiting.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't stop there. Um. You know, the turkey hunting,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: uh is better. The turkeys benefit from it, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: everything from back you know, we don't have bears down here,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: but across the country and you've got bears, You've got uh, rabbits, um,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: all the all of what the list goes on and on,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: all the way down to songbirds. All the animals benefit
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: and uh it takes time, it takes money, It takes
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: effort to get them in, get food plots in. But uh,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the list of benefits goes on and on,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and all the animals that are on the property benefit.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: But not only that. Something that we probably don't talk
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: enough about is is people that are literally I'm not
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: told about hunters here. I'm talking about people that are
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: kind of on the fence. You know, they don't hunt,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: but they're not against it. They're not anti And even
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: the antis I challenge any joblem to um uh to
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: convince me or show me where they're putting are giving
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: more to wildlife in the land than uh food plotters
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: do because everything on the property benefits all the way
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: down to predators. So I'm not sure if it's not
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: answers your question, but it's uh. But the benefit you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the benefits are are long and we could we could
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: talk about that for the next hour or two easily. Yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: far far arranging. And yes that's the truth. And one
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: of the things is that the little things, even for
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: me too, it's like, and I'm sure you've experienced this,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: like you work on a food plot and you put
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: in all that time and you get dirt in your
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: hands and long hours out there in the field that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: first hunt every year, from the first hunt over a
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: food plow, and I can watch that and a deer
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: walks out into it and starts feeding. That is just
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the coolest feeling, um, knowing that you know, all the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: work you put into, all the work you put into
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: it is paying off the deer enjoying it. They're utilizing
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it and getting to it. Just I don't know. That
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: is a special moment every year for me. It is
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: if you made that happen, You made that happen. And
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I've used that same similar scenario in some conversations with people,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: whether they've been doing it for a while, they're talking
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: about and getting into it, and I've told them, I said,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: when they buy some stuff, kind of just walking them
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: through the process, make sure they get plenty right. And
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I said, he listen, this is what's gonna happen. You're
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be out there sweating. You're gonna have dirt all
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: over you know, your fingernails, you're gonna fertilied or lime
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: on you and seed, and your knuckles are gonna be bleeding,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna be probably called it makes a pretty
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: bad name. I said. But here's what's going to happen.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I said, once you get it all done and you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: get through calling me bad names and and kicking things,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be sitting there whatever. October and November and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the wind's gonna any fight. It's gonna be pretty chilly,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have six or eight deer they're standing
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: in that the older one on maybe a you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: pretty nice buck or a big old quality buck. You know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be jumping around in your breast. Short you're
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: gonna forget all the work that went into it. Yeah,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and very similar to what you're talking about. And uh,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: And that's that's how it goes a lot because I've
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: had a lot of guys laugh when I say that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: You know, were you there when I was calling the names?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Said enough? But I know what's gonna happen because I've
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: called people names too when I'm doing that work. But
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: it takes them work in some time. It's some effort,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: but the rewards are there. Yeah. Yeah, that's the truth. Thing.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It's been neat um. I've been fortunate to be able
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to hunt a lot of different scenarios. You know. I've
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: hunted public land where you're just kind of hunting the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: situation you've got. I've hunted private land where you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I can't manipulate habitat at all. But you know, I've
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: had it most to myself, and then I hunting other
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: properties where I can do some work and I can
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: plant food plots, and I can manage to a degree
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and do things like this. And each of these different
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: types of ways of hunting all has some really cool
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: aspects to them. And you know, every different person hunter
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: out there has different circumstances that dictate which of those
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: they can participate in. But um, I'll tell you what.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: If you have the ability to try food plotting and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: add that to your weapon repertoire, um, it's it's a
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: really great addition to your food plotting or to your
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: deer hunting year. It's a great way to continue things
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: throughout the year and see so many different benefits you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: actually out there in the field. And I'm sure we
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: can talk about all those, um, but yeah, no doubt.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: It's something that and in there there and uh uh
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm like you, I've done enough hunted a lot
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of different ways. I want to go through the whole
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: home list, but you know, and it's something with food plots.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of people think, you know, I don't want
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to hunt right on the food plot. Well, and we
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: tell them a lot of times just best not to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: hunt right on the food plot, you know, try to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: get between the food plot in the bedding area to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: cast that they're on the way. Um, and you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and adjusting and wherever the deer are, just adjust your
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: hunting techniques to whether there are at the rut zone
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and the doose are getting to the food plot in
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: daylight hours, you probably want to be pretty close by. Uh.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: If it's more into a you know, where they're just feeding.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: They're not chasing the dose yet, uh, and the pressure
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: is only a little bit, you might want to move
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a little bit back in the woods, closer to the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: bedding area, obviously, you know, maintaining where you don't disturb
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that betting area. But a lot of times the more
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: mature bucks tend to show up on the food plots,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you know, after legal shooting light. Uh. And if you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: move back a little closer to where the where they're betting,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you may catch them when it's legal. Yeah, that's a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: great point, I mean, and then not give me for
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: interrupt is something that I didn't mention earlier, and you
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: and I wrote myself a note here I wanted to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: mention with a food plot, one of the great benefits
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: it is a fantastic place to set up a you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: an elevated box blind or a ground blind or whatever
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and have a place there's enough room with a couple
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: of chairs and there where you can take a kid,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: are a are a dot even you know, somebody that
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: hadn't hunted much um And and the benefits there one
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: is that they can sit in there. They can be
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit more warm, are my obviously than hanging
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: on a tree limb or a stump. Uh. Plus the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: chances I've I've seen some activities some wildlife goes up
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: substantially at a food plot versus you know, hunting on
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: a trail in the woods, which you know can lead
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to them. You know, he might kill a better deer
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: back in there at some point in time because it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: didn't thicker cover. But as far as kids go, new
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: hunters go, they want action. You know. They can take
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: their um, you know whatever, their game boy or their
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: book or their homework and they just sit there and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and and pass a little bit of the time doing whatever.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And when the wildlife starts showing up, that's when you
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: get their attention. And it's a great place where they
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: can move around without scaring everything. Off, so it it
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: provides that benefit as well. Yeah, that's a great point.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: A few years ago, UM I took my dad hunting
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: with me, and my dad has some pretty serious eyesight challenges,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: so you know, growing up, we used to hunt up
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: our We had a family northern Michigan property, but mostly
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: swamp and thick woods and stuff, and it was really
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: hard for maceive deer and he hadn't killed the deer
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: in a long time because of that, and um I
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: started hunting a property in southern Michigan where I started
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: planning food plots and everything, and a couple of years
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: ago I had him down in a situation just like that.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: We sat in a box blind and we overlooked one
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of the food plots I planted, and you know, he
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: could see really well out in that wide open and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he was able to kill a buck the first year
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that we'd ever actually killed sitting together in my entire life.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'd hunted in my whole life, but this is the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: first time he'd been able to kill something together, and man,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the absolute best moments
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of my of my life as a hunter, getting to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: share that with him, and uh, it wouldn't have been
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: possible if it weren't a situation like that. So I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: think that's a that's a perfect example of what you're
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: talking about. Rein it is and it doesn't get much
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: better than that. Yeah, it was pretty special. So so
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the how too some of these things,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: because if you're already using food plots, you know they're
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: really beneficial if you've been on the fence. I think
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: we talked about a few things, um about why it
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: might be worth trying. But now let's say we're in
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the game this time of year right now, I kind
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of want to start with with Now this podcast is
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: going to be going out to the world sometime in
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: early June. UM, so I'm kind of curious, Steve, for
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: people this time of year, summer, what are some of
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the things we should be thinking about as a food plotter. Um,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: there's a food plotter, you know, the anything any existing
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: food plots that people have going they want to be
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: they want to be paying attention to them from a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: maintenance standpoint. Uh. What I mean by that is, uh,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: perennials for example, seeds for example, are impure white clover
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: as perennial that can last several years without having to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: replant it very nutritious. But but they need to control
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: when I say they, the food plotter needs to control
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the weeds and grasses in it. Um. Mowing periodically is
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a good way to do that. You know, you just
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: don't want to mow when it's hot and dry. Um.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But mowing is a good way to control weeds and grasses.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: But we've also got herbicides that everybody. We've got a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: grass specific herbicide called a rest max uh the thing
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to prey on it. We've got a product called Sleigh
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that our broad leaf weed herbicide. But maintenance on on
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the existing food plots. But as far as getting ready
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: for fall, which will be herefore we know it um,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: any new food plots they've got their planning on planning
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: now is the perfect time uh to do a soul test. UM.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And if anybody's done us uh food plots long, they
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: probably have gone to started this food flot. I mean
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: he started the soul test. And and if I said
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: many many times, it's the most valuable thing you can
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: do to ensure success from your food plot efforts. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: soul tests easy to do, simple to do, inexpensive, but
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: it gets What it does is they've taken the soul.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: They can get our they can get our soul tests
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: up from white Tail Institute dot com or by calling us,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: or they can go to their county agent, what have you.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of places they get a soul test done,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: but send it off to a laboratory where they're gonna
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: professionally test it. They'll send them results back and tell
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: them exactly how much land they're gonna need to add,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: how much of what type for live they're gonna need
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to add. And by doing the soil test now, um,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: it just puts them in a position to where they
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: can be ready to go when it's time to plant,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: which is going to depending on where they are in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the country. You know, the farther northern part of the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: country they're gonna be planning in in late June and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: even early July. But then it should come further south,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you know, it starts to get on into later in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: July and August and down to the deep south UH
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: September and even as late as early October. So but
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: doing a soil test now is is gonna be critical
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: UH in my opinion to UH to ensure that they're
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be successful with their file efforts. So talk Let's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: talk about the soil test a little bit, because, like
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, you've said this and basically everybody says this,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: it's very important to do soil tests. I still know
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: lots and lots of lots of people out there who
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: don't do it, or do it once and then don't
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: do it again for ten days or ten years. Um,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: what what happens? Because it's it's easy to say you
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: won't be successful, but what specifically can happen if you
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: just plant your food plot without doing a soil tests?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: What are the what are the risks here they're talking about? Um, well,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I kind of giving you up the abbreviated answer and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I get into a little bit more detailed answer. Abbreviated answer.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: A soul test can be the difference between the best
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: food plot. You can imagine a total failure. It can
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: be that big a difference. But what it does is
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it kind of get when we get into the chemistry here.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But different plants require different nutrients to flourish, to to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: grow as well as they can, to be as healthy
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: as they can, to be as as nutritious as they
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: can and produce as much tone as as they can.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And by doing a soul test, and if you can,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: if you know what you're gonna plants, des by what
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: you're gonna plant, they can give you a tailored recipe
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to add the nutrients to that soul so that when
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you put that seed out and it germinates, the fertilizer
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: slash nutrients that are in that soul are available to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that plant to take up and give it a chance
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to as I say, flourish. Um it gets in, you
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: get into line, you're gonna get into nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Those things are the are the are the big big
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: three if you will big four count the line. Okay,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. And then you know if if you
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I think the two other things one or at least
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: two things I've noticed to in addition to what you
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: said there, Um, if you're not doing your soil test,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: you could waste money on fertilizer or line, because in
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: some cases you might there's two ways ago you could
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: use too little or you could use too much. You
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: can spend a bunch of money buying triple sixteen or
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: something and turns out that you didn't need any of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that nitrogen maybe, but you just spend a bunch of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: money on fertilizes of the had all that um or
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: on the other side, you could decide not to put
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: fertilizer on, but just spend a bunch of money on
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: seed and lime and time on the disk and all
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And then because you didn't have the right fertilizer,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: your food plot doesn't come in and you wasted all
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that money on the other thing. So it's it becomes
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: an economical issue. I think too. It's a very small
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: price to pay to save a lot of money in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the longer, and I think so that's something to considers. Well,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: go on hun direct and that's some of the biggest benefits.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Is the is the money involved. I mean, you know,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: one get out to get into specific numbers, but it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the pH is just you know a point or too low, uh,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And somebody spends whatever, let's say a hundred dollars on
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: fertilizer depending on what the plants are growing. But those
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: when those plants grow, that hundred dollars that they spend
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: may be only fifty dollars of that fertilizer is available
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to the plants because of the chemistry, the white chemistry
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is messed up. So yeah, the plants are going to suffer,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: but you've also wasted money. Uh. And one of the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: examples that I use on high important soul testing is
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: is something that uh, the agricultural industry has done. When
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I say agriculture, I'm talking about again. Know the guys
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: are going to beans and in the corn and feeding
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the world if you will. You know, they take a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: hundred acre field up there, and these guys are doing
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it for economics. I mean, you know, you know, way
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: everything that dollar they put in is a dollar they're
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: not gonna make, so they're doing it economic purposes. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: they've got into what they call grid testing now where
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that's like a hundred acre field and they may do
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a hundred different soul tests soul soul tests and uh,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and it works with GPS and and to and to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: kind of get to the point here is it puts
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: exactly what fertilizer is required for the plant they're gonna
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: be growing on each acre of ground in that hundred
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: acres and it's it's it's it's pretty amazing. But again
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: not told by grid testing here with soul tests, but
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it just goes to show you how important it is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to do the soul test, and again to get back
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to how simple it is, and and and and how
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: inexpensive it is. The agriculture side of is doing it
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: for production. They want more production, which is in turn
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: going to make them more money. Applying at the food plots,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: You're going to have more production, You're gonna have more dear,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: better quality dear, and better quality food plots. Yeah. So,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: speaking of fertilizer and limes, something I've been seeing show
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: up more often having some companies that are selling essentially
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: liquid fertilizer or lime or food plot boosters are different
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: things that you can spraying your food plot that either
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: replaced Lineman fertilizer or supplement it different things like that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: What have you what have you seen heard um understand
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: about those? Do those actually work? Should we be considering
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: using something like that to supplement our usual fertilizer alignement
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: or replace it? Who? That covers a whole lot of ground?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And and you know, I want to be careful here
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in the way I word this. Typically what I tell
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that I'm wanna try to be as politically correct here,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: but as answer your question, uh, my former grandis Wily
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Johnson and the one that followed him, Wayne Hannah. Uh.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: They've both said that, you know, they would rather somebody
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: see somebody use regular agricultural limestone, which is what farmers use,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: or you know, if they if they have you know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: access problems, they can use peltic line, pealty lime can
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: be buying bags, it's easier to spread, it's much more
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: expensive of the regular agriculture line. UM. So they would
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: rather see people follow REGOR or traditionally, if you will,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: agricultural practices, which is your your for example, triple thirteen fertilizer,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: triple seventeen fertilizer, or whatever the soul test calls for
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: with REGOR across the line. I don't want to get
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: too much into the some of the stuff that's coming
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and going, um, because there's a whole but I'm like you,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I've seen a whole lot of it, but just don't
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable comment on it. UM fair enough for maybe
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: what may be obvious reasons. Fair enough. So so then
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: let's let's take a step back then to something you
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: said a couple of minutes ago when we were talking
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: about maintenance, UM mowing and then dealing with weeds. With
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: chemical applications. Um back to the mowing piece, can you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: talk about the timing of that? When is the right
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: time to mow? How do you know? They freasance? For instance,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in a situation where I'm maintaining a clover plot
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and one of the things I always been trying to
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: remind myself of is when's the right time to mow.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I've always have to go back and read articles online
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to figure out and my mowing when it's starting flower
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and my mowing when it's so taller. So when's the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: right time to mow something like that, like a clover plot,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And then how many times of summer or years should
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: do that? That's a fair question to go to pend
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: on how you know your your growing season. Uh, temperatures
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and moisture is gonna dictate how many times you might
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: have to do it. But typically I think a good
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: road would be around probably gonna be two or three
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: times on the on an average year. When That's one
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: of the unique things about the Imperial white to clover,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: it does not have to recede to continue to grow.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It actually grows from the route, so we don't have
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to let it flower turn into seed to get more
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: growth out of it. We can mow it here, you
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: know any time. Um, what we've a good rule of
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: THINGE would be two and in that ten to twelve
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: inch range. When it gets up to say that ten
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to twelve inch range, whether it be you know, just
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: clover and or weeds and grasses that may be mixed
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: in with it, mow it down, raise the mower deck
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: if you can, and mow it down to about you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: save made inches tall, just kind of clipping the tops off.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: What that does It gives a gives a more plants
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to grow up within it, picking it up
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: even more. But another thing that it does is it
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: it prevents the weeds and grasses that are in it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I should say, helps prevent the weeds and grasses that
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: may be in it from going to see which you
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: do not want to let happen. Yeah, So so apply
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Can we apply that same question then to the spring. Um,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: if I'm using some kind of herbicide, what's the timing
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: on that? How often do you think on average somebody
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: should be doing that? Uh, it's going to depend on
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: what they're spraying at the time of year. The best
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: time just to to spray these perennial plies to control
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: weeds and grasses is going to be early in the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: spring when things first start to green up, because as
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the grass or the weeds appear and they're in the
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: more immature state, is much easier to control those with
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: herbsts than it is on a tour plant. Uh. Now,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that people as they if they let
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: things go to more, they can't. That doesn't mean they
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: can't control the weeds and grasses. It's just going to
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: probably probably take a little bit longer and a little
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: bit heavier application, and it might take more than one application. Okay, cool,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but it would be as a spring and summer activity
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: as far as control and weeds and grasses in a
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: perennial food plot as a spring and summer uh project. Okay,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Now you mentioned here maintaining perennial food plots and um,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: most people I think understand the difference between perennials and annuals,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: at least if you're already in the food plotting world,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and if you're already participating, that's something most people understand. Um.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: But can you talk to us a little bit about
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the wise behind why you might want to choose a
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: perennial versus an annual and maybe why you might want
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to both. You know, how does that fit into a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: food plot strategy? Um. Yeah, again, it's all the start
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: with annuals. Annuals are something that they are designed to
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: last a year or less generally. You know, for example,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: fall winter annuals typically something you're gonna plan in a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: late summer early fall, and it's designed to attract a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: nurse deer during the fall and winter months, all right
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: now and then it's gonna pretty much play out at
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that time. Now, Spring summer annual, like our power plant product,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: is something people will plan in the lake spring early summer,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: produces a lot of forage, a lot of tonnage, a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: lot of protein far the deer when they're growing their antlers.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Plus you know, the fallings are being born the mother
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you know, the doose are producing milk. Um. It helps
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: with those all those activities. Um. So, annuals are more
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: targeted towards a specific time of year. A perennial Uh,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it's something that can last up to five years from
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a single planning. Sometimes it goes even a little longer
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: than that. But we say typically up to five years
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: from a single planning, depending on how far north they are.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: In the south, you know, you're looking at something that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: can produce food probably ten twelve months a year north,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: depending on how cold it. Guess he's probably look at
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: at nine to nine to ten, maybe eleven months a year,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: just depending on the year and how far north they are.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But it's producing food the entire year. One of the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: benefits to perennials is not only is it great for
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: hunting purposes attracting there in the falling winter months, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: for example of going back to imperial white jil clover,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it's one of the first things to green up in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the spring, and it's extremely high in protein, high proteins,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: crucial for antler development, milk production, body development, et cetera.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: So you're providing a something that not only can help
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you attract theater in the falling winter, but also provide
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a very high level of nutrition in the spring and
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: summer months when antlers are being grown, you know, and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: falling to being born in the mother producing milk. Now,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: somebody this, you know, this got the availability to do it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: An ideal thing is to have a combination of the two.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: If they can, uh For example, enough a guy's got
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: whatever four acres that he's planting, and it's like two
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: as in a perennial and then two aggers and annuals
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that you rotate the different things. That's generally a good recipe.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And again there's some you know, some some some variables there.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: If they live a long long ways away from their
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: their land, you know, they may want to lean a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: little bit more towards annuals simply because of the maintenance situation.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: If they live close to their land, they might want
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to go a little heavier on the perennials. Yeah, it
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: definitely is one of those situations dependent things, um which
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: which kind of brings me to my next question, which
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I've got to get I've
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: got to believe this is one of the most commonly
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: asked questions you here definitely is from me, and that is,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you know, what should I plan? Everyone wants what should
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I plant? And if you look in the in the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: food plotting world today, there are dozens and dozens, if
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: not hundreds, of different food plot seeds and varieties and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: blends and companies and and there's so many different things
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: out there. Um At a high level. If someone is
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: just trying to answer that question for themselves, what should
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I plant? You know, whether it's something you guys are selling,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: or if they're just looking at the whole world and
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: just trying to side. You know, how do I go
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: about making this decision? What would you recommend as far
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: as the questions they should be asking themselves or the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: steps they should go through to determine what to plant. Um.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You know, if somebody asked me that question, I would
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: respond with the question, is which is not what you want? Um?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: And this is someone making a sumps here Most the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: vast majority of people plant there to attract them during
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the falling winter. Um. Now they're don't get me wrong,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: many people have advanced beyond just that and want to
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: provide nutrition in the spring and summer too. UM. So
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: if you know the guns of ahead and somebody says, no,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want any question, I just answer my question,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: what do I need to plant? If? If they've got
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: a good heavy soul and hold moisture, I would plant
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: imperial white chail clover on the good heavy souls that
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: that hold hold moisture. It's a perennial. All the benefits
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that we've discussed, but I would also if if possible,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I would plant some annuals. Um. For example, our Pure
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Attraction product is a blend of our our brassica plants
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and our oat plants. It's extremely attractive in the early
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: season and Nebraskas are also very attractive in the late season.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Um So, again, you're right this it gets confusing when
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you can get overwhelming when you look at all the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: various products out there. But for somebody that's just starting out,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you know, Pure Attraction are our white Heil oats plus
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: um It's it's a fantastic way to get started. And
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: we got a bunch of people that's been doing it
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: for twenty going on thirty years that are using those
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: products as well. But they're easy to grow. They grow
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: real fast and the deery just pound them during the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: fall and winter months. Uh. Winter Greens is another great choice,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: uh Nebraska based product. He's got our Braskas in it. Uh.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: But it tends to be best in the later season
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: as the temperatures drop, but they'll also get uses in
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the early season. It grows real fast, produces a lot
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: of tonnage. Um So, I mean there's as you say,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of options. But if somebody just getting started,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the white hellos plus are the pure attraction, are great
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: places to start. If they wanted something more so designed
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: more so specifically for the later season, the winter grains
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: is a great choice. Yeah, I've had success with all
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of those, um but I kind of want to go
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: back to what you first said. You said that you
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: would you would actually, rather than give him a recommendation,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you would ask them a question. I'm really curious about
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: those questions. What are the questions that these people should
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: be asking because each of one of us, right, we're
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in a unique situation. We all might have something that
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: would work best for our strategy, for our property, or
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: our circumstances. What are those things that people should be
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: thinking about to help them make the right decision for them.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: You know what? The question I think is all right,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: what you know? And again, a lot of times I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: ask a leading question. I kind of know predict what
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: they're going to say with high percentage of accuracy. You know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: what do you want the food plot to do? And
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: most people are gonna say willing, and I want them
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to you know, I wanted for hunt season I say
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that followed up with will let me ask you this.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously you know where you located and when
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: when are you When are you hunting? Are you hunting
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: more early season? Are you hunting more late season? Are
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you hunting some of both? And let those questions kind
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of lead me toward to where I would Uh. For example,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: if if I ask a guy, say, listen, he wants
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to draw deer, and he's you know, he has an
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: opportunity to hunt a lot and you know whatever, say
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: September and October, not as much later than that, it's
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the end. A pure attraction are the white tellos plus
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: would be fantastic options grow fast track a lot of deer,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and they're fantastic in that earlier season. If a guy says,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm gonna hunt a lot in
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: November in December a little bit late season, UM, I
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: would probably lean him toward either. The pure attraction are
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the winter greens. And you know, of course we've got
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: tall time tubers with this our turn up product and
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a new product we're just introducing called beats and greens. Uh,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of choices for the late season
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: as well. Um, you know, and then of course of
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: the guy says, well, you know, I want to have
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: better quality dear to hunt, then I would lean more
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: toward we're you know, planning the like the power plant
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in the spring for antler development, UM, the dot lactic
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and et cetera. Uh if with a company to combine
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: with a perennial such as Imperial white or clover that
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: can provide a lot of forge and a lot of
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: nutrition during that early and the late season, excuse me,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: early spring and the lakes bring on into summer. Okay,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: let's continue with some of these specific circumstantial things. Let's say,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: as we're continuing to ask these questions, UM, come to
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: find out that food plotter John Doe says that his
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: area he can plan a food plot is pretty wet.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: What would you recommend, whether it be as types of
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: food plots or just things to consider when food plotting
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in a wet situation? Um? And again, now I'm gonna
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: ask another question. How wet is he talking about? I mean,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: is it does it stay mucky wet all the time?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Because there it can be too wet to grow successful
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: food plot. Kind of like it's kind of like people
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: talk about sandy soul. Uh, there's some souls that are
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: considered sandy, but they're they're good souls all the way
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: down to beat sand. It doesn't grow much of anything
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: so that so I have to kind of qualify it
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: with that. But in the more moist souls, the Imperial
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: white Tail clover, as I've mentioned many times on heavy soul,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that ald moister is phenomenal. Uh that are our fusion
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: product which in our clover and chickery blend. Uh In
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: annuals that grow well in that would be uh, you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: our white tail oats plus would be their best bet
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: on that, on that more damp soul. Okay, now let's
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: look at the converse. What if you're in a really
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: dry area, you're very arid, um, you've got an area
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: where you're not going to be sure you're gonna get
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: quite as much water and rain as you would ideally
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: like anything different we should be thinking about there, Whether
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, in addition to what to plant, I'm also curious,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you know, if I'm in a wet or if I'm
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: in a really dry area, should I be thinking differently
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: about one I plant or how I maintain it or
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: anything like that too? Not so much how you maintain it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I let the species of plants you're growing dictate that.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, if somebody's got heavier souls, you know, I
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: mentioned the Imperial white clover be an ideal for that.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Now you get up into the higher, dryer type souls,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I would probably recommend that somebody may up the percentage
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: of annuals that they plant, uh stuff that you know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: seasonally specific. UM. I would probably still recommend that they
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: get some perennials established, but maybe a lower percentage simply
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: because it's going to be affected so so strongly by
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the drier conditions that they're dealing with. UM. But again,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the um the fall annuals, all the ones that I've mentioned, UM,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: you know, the white colotes plus and the winter grains,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: they all do real well on that well drained soil,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: but their designed to be planted in the late summer
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: early fall, depending on where somebody is. The power plant
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: product produced a lot of tones. As I've said several times,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: it does well on those well drained soils. We've got
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a couple of perennials that are designed for well right souls.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: But again we get into the how well drained and
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: how dry is it? Uh, our extreme product is designed
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: for the up you know, the you know those upland souls,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and our alpha right plus product is a much deeper
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: rooted plant plant product as well. So I would probably
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: on the heavier souls that whole boystraft might lean a
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: little more towards perennials, up that percentage from fifty fifty,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: whereas if you get into the dry areas, I might
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: up the percentage toward the annuals from fifty fifty. Okay,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: that's helpful. That answered that answered that question, it does,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I think, so. Okay, so I'm gonna continue throwing these
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: hypotheticals out there. Um, but this one is for someone
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: who does not have big equipment. Maybe we don't have
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: any way to disc we don't have a tractor, we
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: don't have an a t V. Um. Can I plant
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: a food plot without having big equipment like that? Can
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I plant something in a little spot in the woods
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: or a little patch of open cover? Um? And if so,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: how how can I do that? Yeah? It can be
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And uh, you know the main thing is is get
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: a good night's sleep and uh and rest up because
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it's we're going to require a good bit of work.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: But uh, and I say that slightly tongue in cheek,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: but it's there's a lot of truth to it. Obviously,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that's why they're using those big tractors and a TV
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: s to scratch the soil. But yeah, we've got products
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that they're designed specifically for that application. Uh. For example,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: if a guy's got a little small clearing back in
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: the woods that uh, you know, it needs to be
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: getting at least three or four hours of sunlight at
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: day to make the chemistry of the plants work. So
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: we've got to have that. And if if, if, if
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: they don't have that, sometimes if they can cut some
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: junk trees down and be careful with that, you know,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: be careful what you're cutting. But if they can open
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: up the canopy to let more sunlight in, that's the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: number one requirements getting enough sunlight in that area to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: make the plants grow. But we've got two products, one
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: called Secret Spot, one called Both Stand that we've got
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to pack a four pound bag out at this design
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to plant forty square feet. You know, a couple of
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: guys with a up a couple of good steel tooth
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: rakes can get in there and spend you know, spend
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: a Saturday morning and they can develop a food plot. Again,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: as I said earlier, it's gonna take some work, um,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: because they're they're doing the work up the tractor obviously
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: on a much smaller scale. But yeah, they can definitely
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: get in there and do that with hand tools. Is
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a little again you know, it's I've done it, and
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it's uh, you know they're gonna be war out that day.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: So but again, it's gonna be one of those things
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: where they when when fall rolls around, they've got some
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: derabist and they're gonna forget the effort that went into it. Yeah,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: early early in my years food plot, and that was
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: how I did it. At first I wasn't. I was
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: out there first with the rake, and then a couple
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of days later I was able to I was able
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to borrow a push Rhoda tiller, so I had a
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: little bit of equipment. Um, but yeah, if you're able
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: to scratch a little bit of soil, you can get
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: something out there. And yes, and and even if you
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: just mentioned something that I should have mentioned earlier, and
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the apologizer jumping on the top of you, But the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: main thing with those rakes, what we're trying to do
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: not only get that minimal sunlight in there to make
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the chemistry work, we have to have the soul exposed
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: so that we can get seed soul contact. So that's
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: what we're looking for as a seed bed. This guy
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: is little to none uh, weeds and grasses on it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Having the soul exposed so that the plants have a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: chance to germinate, uh and and flourish. Yeah. There's another
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: common question I get a lot, and that is is
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: it even worthwhile planning food plots? If I'm in farm
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: country and there's crap fields all around me? I mean,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: how do you how do how do you answer that? Now?
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: We've been getting asked asked that question for going on
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: thirty years now, and it's a great question because you know,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: especially like in the Midwest where there's beans in corn
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: fields as far as you can see. Why in the world,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: it's like the whole world is a food plot out there.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Why would they need to do it? Um? Which is
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a question I would ask if I was them, And
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I've got an answer, and the answer is this, Um,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: there are beings in corn be aware out there. Uh.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Number one, what's going to differentiate your farm that you're
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: hunting from all those other farms around you. Uh, there's
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: things that you could plant that are going to differentiate
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: you differentiate your your your your property from everybody else's.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: For example, the oaths I mentioned, the clover I mentioned,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: or the winter grains I mentioned. Uh, you're providing a
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: different food source than is available everywhere else. So number one,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you're differentiating your your your your land from everybody else's land. Um.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Another thing that's happened to over the years since we've
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: started this, as the combines have gotten so good, they're
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: not leaving near the waste grain that they used to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: leave when they picked these fields. There's not near as
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: much in a lot of people. As soon as they
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: get it picked, you know, they're they're turning it over. Uh,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: They're they're cutting everything in and basically the the the
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: grocery store has closed. UM. So now you've really got
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: a big vantage over any of your neighbors if if
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: that is being done on their place. This is another
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: place where food places can separate themselves greatly. You know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: even in um the bread basket, if you will, the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Midwest UM is in this is dear, listen to stay dear,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: roughly start growing their antlers and in their early spring
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to stay marks. Beans are high in protein, you know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: which obviously can help deer grow better quality annurs. And
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that's you know, one of the reasons that uh that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: the deer in the Midwest are so big, uh is
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: because of the nutrition there. But anyway, UM, they're gonna
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: plant those beans in at the earliest sometime in May,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: maybe the first of June, so by the time the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: beans are starting to grow it to provide food for
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the deer. We're looking at at least June before the
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: deer start feeding on it. And they started growing the
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: antlers in March, so what are they going to be
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: feeding on in April in May prior to those beings
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: being available. The Imperial white toil clover, as I mentioned earlier,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: it's one of the first things that's going to green
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: up in the spring. It's extremely high nutrition, and it
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: first starts providing that that high protein food source long
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: before those beans are available. So what we've done is
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: we started providing high nutrition earlier in the allegrown process,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: which is crucial to the end result in the harden antler. Uh.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: There's research has been done there in Michigan. UM whereas
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: if if antlers are stunted early on, there's not compensatory
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: gains made later on. There, you know, it's just gonna
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: be behind. It's gonna be behind the entire time, even
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: when they're hardened. Um, we've we took u some antlers
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: in velvet and had an essay to find out what
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: was in them. What was not blood and water in
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the beginning stages was up to protein and a harden
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: antler is forty protein and all that. As amazing as
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: it is to think about it, still the study of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: somebody made that the deer are going to grow these
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: antlers in a matter of you know, roughly six months.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: And you know you're looking at you know at you know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: two deer. He's gonna be growing all that no matter
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: of you know, a hundred fifty hundred days. So what
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: he's eating is crucial. Okay, We're going to take a
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: quick pause here for our white Tail Wisdom segment with
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: our friends at white Tail Properties and producer Spencer new
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Earth will take it from here this week. With white
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Tail Properties, we are joined by Brad Ferris, a land
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: specialist out of Central Mississippi, and Brad is gonna be
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: telling us about what factors make for quality property in
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: the South. You know what, And I spent a lot
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of time in the Midwest and the West other parts
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: of the country. One it's just like most places you
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: want to I like to find an area and I'm
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: gonna call it a neighborhood and not really a neighborhood
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: like where people live, but the area, uh or the
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: area around a certain piece of property is one of
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the first things I like to dig into. UM because
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: depending on what's going on in the area, whether the
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: roads rivers a lot of small landowners, UM, a busy
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: property is just not going to be as high quality
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: recreational property as a quiet, secluded property. So the area
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: in the location is very important to me when when
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: trying to find a piece of ground for a client
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: with what you know with white tail properties and finding
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: finding what they want, I like to ask the questions.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: You know, river tracks are different than hill tracks. UM.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: In the South, it typically takes a little bit bigger
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: piece of property to do what you want to do. Then,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: like in the Midwest, Um, you know, to a track
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: in the Midwest that's full of tember can be really
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: really good. Two acres in the South can be okay,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: but you're not gonna have a lot of management opportunity.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: It's like you will in other parts of the country.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Um is one thing about the sale that is different tricks.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: If you'd like to learn more and to see the
• 55:07
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• 55:11
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• 55:17
  Speaker 1: R I S. So So this that all makes it
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. And like intellectually, I think we
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: all we all know in general that improving the nutrition
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: in an area like this by adding more food sources
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: of high quality like a food plot, that should help
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: improve the herd health in general, that should help improve
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: antler growth. Um. But what I'm curious, I have no
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: idea if there if this is something that has been
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: quantified in any way. UM, but I'm curious, you know
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: what kind of realistic health benefits? Um let me let
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: me rephrase this. What is the scale of a food
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: plus system? We need to actually show quantifiable impacts like that,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: and then like what's what's a timeframe and what's like
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: a size? Is there any do you have any It
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: means like if I play in a half acre food plot,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: is that really going to make a difference or you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I know it will help me from a hunting perspective,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: but well a half acre help from a health perspective?
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Or is it more like any two acres or five
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: acres or ten acres um? And maybe this is an
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: impossible question to answer, but I'm just curious if if
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: you've any perspective on that to answer your question directly,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: it's not impossible to answer. I'm not sure gonna be
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: about answer because there's so many of your fans and budgets.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: What what other food did they have available to them?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Natural foragest agriculture? Um, you know how what you know
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: how many deer? If they've known how many deer on
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: the property? Uh, is there gonna be enough tone he's
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: produced by that half acre to feed you know a
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: lot of deer, just a couple of deer. But you
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: know it's it's and how much of their diet consists
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: of that food plot? But you know anything that they
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: can do is going to help. Now will they be
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: of to visually see the difference if they go and
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: plan a half acre on a two acre farm? You know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: you know again the quantified that is not I want
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: to say probably not. Um. But at the same time,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: if you've got a bug that you know, that's when
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: he's born at a phone, if his mom's visiting that
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: food plot, uh, before he's born, in right after he's born,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: and he then that's kind of his home range. He
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: grows up with that better nutrition that's available to him. Yes,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: it will improve the quality when he gets at maturity
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: and all the way through. Uh. But you know, I
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: want to I say that hesitantly mainly because you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: a half acre food plot, you know it's definitely will
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: help you from a hunt standpoint. How much nutrition can
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: it provide? And how many dey are we talking about?
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to avoid the question by any means,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: but um, and there's not a specific number uh that
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: you this is this is what you gotta do to
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: make a difference. Because anything that you can do, whether
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: be a half acre, quarter ac or whatever, anything is
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: going to help. Is the degree of help that you get. Um.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: And tip of what we tell folks and again drifted
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: here a little bit, but um Uh, there's there's some
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: people that's you know, talked about you know, how you
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: planning food flies and managed there you can start really
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: seeing results for it four five years down the road. Well,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: you know, we we we agree with that, but we
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: disagree from a standpoint. You really don't have to wait
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: that long to see the results the first year that
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: they plan on. What they should expect to see is
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: more dear and increased buck activity. Now, as the deer
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: grow up in from standpoint, all way from my phone,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: our way till one and a half to an half
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: and own up, if they've got better nutrition available to them,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: higher higher protein available to them as they're growing up,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: they're going to be better quality of maturity. Man. Again,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it's I'm not sure I'm answering your question, but it's
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hard to quantify how much difference
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: half acre is gonna make, uh, because it's gonna there's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: so many variables involved. Yeah, but it will help, and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the more you can do, the butter. Yeah, that's one
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: of those questions. As the words are coming out of
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: my mouth, I'm realizing there's no way to answer this. Well,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a tougher one, but it's
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: certainly tougher to quantify it. But it's you know, it's
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: something that you know, we certainly anybody that's got a
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: half acre that they can scratch around and plant, I mean,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna make their hunting experienced butter and then
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: nutrition that they're going to be providing it is going
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: to benefit the animals. Now, are they gonna be growing
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: bone and crocketts in a year? Nope. Hopefully they'll attract
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: one um. But over time, as deer grow up with
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: better nutrition, they got a better chance and from for example,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: one of the things that we talked about, when when
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: a deer is born, he's got the genetic blueprint that
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the Lord gave him, uh that the Lord when he
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: when his pall was uh born, it has a genetic
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: potential to reach a hundred and seventy inches. We're not
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: gonna take food plots and turn that deer into it too.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Hundred ins deer the best he can be as a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: hundred seventy So what we try to do is let's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: just say that he's born in just is the area,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: whether it's just some woods around, if you open field
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: of stuff. There's so many stresses on the deer. Nutrition
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: being one album that deer that has some genetic potential
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: to reach one seventy. Everything's perfect in the while, I'm
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: probably gonna maybe peek out at because of all the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: stresses that are in his life, nutrition being one album.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: If we can close that nutrition gap, what we want
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: to do is instead of him peeking out at one forty,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: we want to help him get to that range, and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: by closing the nutrition gap, we can help him reach
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: more of his genetic potential. But we're not gonna take
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: him beyond that. Yeah, you know, another interesting thing to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: consider that that I always factor into um the what
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I can achieve by having some type of food plot
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: system on a property is that not only can you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: improve the nutrition and help a deer reach its genetic potential,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: but if you have some type of habitat management even
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you know it could be food plots or or anything
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to improve the habitat and your property you like. As
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, you're likely going to attract more dear on
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: deer property. More deer will spend more time there, and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: there will be more chances for you as a hunter
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: to choose whether or not to shoot a deer. If
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: you are the person making that decision to shoot a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: buck or not shoot buck, more often than not you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: have a better chance of those bucks making it to
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: whatever age class are hoping these deer might make it too,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: to have more mature bucks, so you can be improving nutrition.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: But also by way of having more deer near you
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: and you being the one to make those decisions more often,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: you can also improve the age class and your ability
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: to shoot that big or older deer down the road
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: because you have a disproportionate amount of the decision making
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: in that just because they're there more often. And um,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: and that's exactly the right stuff. That that that's you know,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: it'd be nice if we all had, you know, five
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: thousand acre tracts land hunt. We could do a whole
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: lot of wonderful things. But the reality is, you know,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: most obviously, you know, we've got forty acres, eighty acres,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: maybe a few hundred acres. Uh, you know, there's a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: few that's got five ear tholes, a few more than that.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: But most people are gonna have the small attraction land
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: where deers and they're gonna rarely get a deer to
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: spend a hundred percent of his time on that piece
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: of property that they own. What they want to do,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: and they can do it through for lack of a
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: better word, habitat manipulations, habitat improvement, which is food plots
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: creating some good, heavy batting cover where the you know,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the deer can go for security. Hopefully they got like
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: a sanctuary area, an area that's real thick, nasty that
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: nobody ever goes into unless they're tracking a deer where
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: the deer knows they can go and get away. Every
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: minute that he spends on your ground is a minute
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: that he's not going to be exposed to the neighbors
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: who may shoot everything that moves so correctly. All right,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: So I want to take a little shift here, and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: over your years working with food plots and working with
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: the white hunts, and I'm sure you have been um
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: exposed to a lot of guys and girls who take
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: food plotting really, really seriously and do a really great
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: job at it. So what I'm curious about is what
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: do you see those next level people doing to produce
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the absolute best maximum performance out of their food plots.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: What's that next level stuff that your average guy or
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: girl isn't doing but the very best food plotters out
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: there are. Hmm, that's a good question. You know, we've
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: touched on some of it from a maintenance standpoint, but
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you know these guys, um, you know that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: when a lot of these guys have gone from spending
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you know, as I said very early in our conversation
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: a few weekends a year to where they're spending hundreds
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: of days a year on their property. Uh. And you
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: know there it's one of those things whether they're kind
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: of like every relationship, whether it be with people or whatever,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: the more time you spend with it more improves, and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the relationship with the lands improved. And they're looking for,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: you know, new places to do food plots. They may
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: be doing hinge cutting to create more bedding cover. They
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: may be digging ponds to create more water sources for
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: the there. They're always looking for ways to improve their
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: property to make it more attractive, um and to give
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: their more reasons to spend more time on their property. Um.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: You know, they're very detailed oriented when it comes to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: maintaining the food plots. Um. You know they're getting that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: there in the early spring there um Uh, controlling the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: weeze and grasses, whether it be you know, through mowing
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and or herbicide applications. A lot of are also incorporating
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: mental invitement supplements, which is something we haven't really talked about,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: but they're providing mental invitement supplements for to our the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: there as well. Um, you know, creating access. That's something that,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: um that we haven't touched on. But I know a
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys, I mean they go and they're
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: they're they're going in and you know, either mowing and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: or raking pass to and from their stands so they
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: can be as quiet as possible getting to the stands
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and getting out of their spins. Uh. And that's that's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: something that's crucial, is especially for guys that you know
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: they want to hunt the more mature bucks. Uh. If
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: you've got a big buck that's you know, that's a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: bust in a food plot and you've spoke him a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: few times, in good chance he's gonna go knock turnal
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: on you. So the you know, the ideal thing is
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: to be able to hunt these food plots in or
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: around them. Uh, and the deer never know you were there.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Obviously that's a stretch because of scent and everything else involved.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: But do everything you can to prevent them from knowing
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: you're they're controlling your scent trying not to spoke them,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: definitely trying to stay away from the batting area. So
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: when they set these food plots up, they think about
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: how am I gonna get to it? Which weighs the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: wind blowing. You know, a lot of these guys they'll,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: for example, they got a couple of acre field, they
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: may have several stands hung on that field. That way
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: they can hunt it under different winds. You know that
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: they got up the north wind. Obviously they want to
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: be more towards the south side, vice versa. So they
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: may hang more than one stand on a food plot.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: They also may have stands back in the cover off
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: these food plots and let the wind and the time
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: of year and what the deer doing dictate where they're
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: going to the hunt. And in the whole time they're thinking,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: you know, how can I get in here with the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: least possible disturbance? Yeah, so important that that right there,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: whether you're using food plots or or any other hunting tactic,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: if you can't get in or out without disturbing deer
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: every single time you go, and you are reducing your
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: eyes and that's that's so kind of core. I think
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: to anyone try and chase my tue box. Yeah, and
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: it is. And when it comes to food plots, a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: lot of time, you know, it's something that uh, you know,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: if the guy's got whatever forty acres and he got one,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: you know, half acre clearing, he's gonna be limited on
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: his creativity. But if possible, if he can, you know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: try to spend a little bit of time creating maybe
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: different accesses to that particular food plot and think about,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: you know, when the when the caesar start, which way
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: is the providing win? So it's gonna be northwest. You know,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: he probably want to try to approach it as much
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: as you can on the southeast side. Um, so thinking
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: you know, how am I gonna hunt this plot after
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I plan it? It's something that I see a lot
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: of the you know, the people that have been doing
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: it for a while, you know, they are getting a
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: little more creative in the way they're And these guys
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: are going in and you know creating food plots from
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: timber or brush or what have you. And uh, when
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: you can do that, obviously you can get as creative
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: as you want to. Most folks don't have that. Uh.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: When I say most folks, a lot of folks don't
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: have that that that option to go in there and create,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: you know, from a blank canvas. They got to deal
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: with the openings that they've got. Yeah, to take that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: step further though, if you do have flexibility, um, thinking
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: about these things before even putting in the food plot.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: So not necessarily putting in a food plot and then deciding, oh,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: what's the wind gonna do, where can I hang to stand?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: How can I get it? Actually think about those before
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: you place it. So you put it in the right place,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: so you do have the right access, so you can
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: hunt it with the right winds, so you do know
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: you can intercept dear coming from a nearby betting air.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you can factor all that into your
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: decision making process beforehand, you are that much more well
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: off in the end um to your point, that's why
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: it was possible. But if it is possible, it's it's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: important to ask these questions. This is one of those
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: things that at least for me, and tell me if
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: you disagree. But when it comes to food plotting, for me,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I think one of the smartest things to do, one
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: of the most important things to do is is slow down,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: take a quick second breathe and answer a few questions,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people say they get
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: excited they see someone on TV shoot a big buck
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: on a food plot and they're like, I'm going to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: plant food plots this year. And they go by the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: first thing they see and they go out and make
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: a little opening, they throw stuff out, and they just
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: hope it's going to change their whole world. That can
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: still help, I mean, just trying anything can help. But
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I think to really get the most out of this,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: you have to start asking all these questions we've been
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: talking about. Figure out what the right thing is for
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: your goals, for your property, for your set up, thinking
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: about how you're going to hunt it or how it
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: factors into the area um, thinking about access, thinking about hunting,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: thinking about all these different details that in the long
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: run make a big, big, big difference. Excuse me. It's
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: a lot easier to do that in the front end
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: than on the back end. Indeed, it is. If if
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: they've got the option to do that, it's it's certainly beneficial.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: And it's like anything, you know, the more you put
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: into it, the more you're gonna get out of it.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: And kind of a bad comparison I've used as you know,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I've told people before, I said, you know, I can
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: jump in my car this afternoon and head towards the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: setting sun, and if I keep working that way, I'm
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm gonna get the Pacific Ocean at
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: some point in time. But it probably be better if
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I sat down with a map and kind of playing
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: my route. Uh. Bad analogy probably back comparison, but it's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: it's it's a crude one, but it's it's similar. Um. So, yeah,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: if they if they've got the ability to all uh
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: to get creative with the you know, even the shapes
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: of food plot. That's something a lot of the food
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: plotters that have been doing it for a while and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: they've got access to be able to create you know,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: openings within the woods. They start thinking by shape, uh,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: whether it be you know, kind of a boomerang type
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: shape or more elongated u uh uh like logging roads
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: or good fire lanes or get spider. Creating these lanes
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: within the in the heavier cover our glass shapes just
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: oddly shaped type food plots creates more edge, which is
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: going to create more activity. Uh. The other thing is
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: is trying to get it close to bedding cover as
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: possible without crossing that line to where you're going to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: be disturbing animals. The queen of the closer you can
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: get to it, the quicker he can get to an
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: A perfect example is a pine forest that I hunt.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: When we first got it, it was one humongous thicket.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I mean it was so thick he couldn't hardly walk
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: through it. And you know, deer just just traps and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: all over the place. Early in the afternoons. Uh, As
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: those materials, those trees matured, there was less cover up
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: underneath them, and as time went on, we noticed that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: the deer were getting to those food plots later and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: later and later because their betting area was that much
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: further from the food plot. It makes sense that's definitely
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: definitely important to factor all that in that placement. And um,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: and I've seen that. I've seen the exact same thing
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: if and I think the key, one of the keys
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: that you mentioned was without crossing that line, you wanted
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: as close as possible without spooking those deer. Going back
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: to what you mentioned a little earlier, if we're disturbing, dear,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: all of this work is for not at least from
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: a hunting perspective. So, yeah, especially if you're hunting the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: more mature deer. I mean, you can get away with
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: bumping the does and the you know, in the one
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: and two year old box. It maybe even a bless
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: and tell of the three year old buck, but you
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: can bump them around a little bit and then continue
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: to come. But the more mature box. Uh, if you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: spoke of a time or two, Um, you know you're
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: probably gonna have to wait to the rut and the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: hope you get lucky. Yeah, so you know, don't educate
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: him if you can help it. Yeah. So, so we've
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, things like this like disturbing deer
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: on your food plots, as as a mistake people often make.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: We've talked about the mistake that many people make with
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: not taking a soil test I mentioned earlier, the mistake
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: and sometimes rushing into things without thinking your food plot
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: playing through. These are a couple of common mistakes. Is
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: there anything else as far as very common mistakes that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: you see that we haven't mentioned yet, Um, that's worth
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: pointing out here. Uh, you know this is gonna be's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: uh self promotion a little bit. But I think one
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: of the biggest mistakes is the guy just kind of
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: gets a little bit overwhelmed these drows his hands up,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't do it. Um. I think that's a huge mistake. Uh.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: You know, we've gotten you know, a little bit deeper
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: into the weeds here, you know, getting into shaping food
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: plots and when directing this, that and the other. You know,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: if the guys you know not you know, if he's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: not sure, you know, he's kind of kind of thinking
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: about these teetering a little bit. You know, just get
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: out there and plant something, why something, um, and you're
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna things are gonna get better. Now. The
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: more you do, the better it can get. But if
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: you plant something you've got, you've got, you're gonna say
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: more deer and better quality there. If you plant something
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: that's preferred by the deer. Obviously we want them to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: use White Tell's two products that we know those are
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: attractive to deer. Uh. So just you know, just just
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: don't get overwhelmed by As you mentioned earlier, there's so
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: much stuff out there, there's so much information that it's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: you know, almost like trying to get a sip of
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: water out of a fire. Hose you just getting pounded. Um,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: you know, just don't let it, just don't let it
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: just overwhelm you to the point where you don't do it.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Stick your toe in the water. Try. Yeah, and I
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: think they'll find out that, you know, they're gonna they're
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: gonna see benefits and then they can kind of grow
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: from there. Yeah, that's a really great point because to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: your point, I mean, just in what the things I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: was I was just mentioning there. I mean, all those
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: things that I'm saying you should consider. Yes, those are
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: those are healthful things to consider. But at the same time,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: if you haven't started at all, that can be kind
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: of intimidating, that can be overwhelming. So that's a great point. Mean,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: you need to start somewhere, just like just as a
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: deer hunt, right. I mean, if if I told you
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: your first year deer hunting, ever, you had to be
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: hunting them mature buck and you had to do all
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: these twenty seven different little things, right, hardly anyone would
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: be able to do it. Hardly anyone had fun with it,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: and hardly anyone would even want to start because it's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: so intimidating. But it's a lot a lot better I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: think if you start at the bottom rung of that ladder,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: dip your toe in there, try things, and then just
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: try to try to improve every year. Um yeah, and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: and and that's exactly what will happen. Is like anything,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: you know, the more we do it, the longer we
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: do it, the better we get at it. And uh
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm from the Elsko. I mean
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I move a little bit slow. I've always had the
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: opinion that if you're going to run into a wall,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: it hurts a whole lot less if you're moving slowly
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: as opposed to having your head down with the eyes closed. Um.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: So another back in parison. But you know, just enough,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: jump in, get in there and do something, trying to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: learn as much as you can. Um and do as
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: much as you can along the line of what we're
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: talking about. But the main thing is just do um.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: And they mean that they'll say the benefits yeah, and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: have fun, right, because I really do think that, like
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, there's a lot of benefits. There's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. They come, they can come with
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: food plots if you approach it in a way, UM,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: don't be too stressed out about it. If things don't
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: go perfectly, that's all right. Enjoy the process. Enjoy you
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: know those moments in the woods when you do get
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: to see deer enjoying your food plot. And uh, I
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: think it's it's very rewarding if you go and do
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: it that kind of mindset. Well, And I appreciate you
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: saying that, because that's something that um uh that we're
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: talking more about, and we've we've been uh talking more
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: about the process and the benefits of stuff like that
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: up food plots and deer manage. But and we promote
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: both of those very heavily, in the food plots being
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: big part of the manage the program to grow better
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: quality deer that we can hunt. But something that I've
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: seen friends do, and I've talked to some other people
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: that have done, they get so tone vision on killing
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: nothing but monster bucks that they forget the process us
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: and they let management be the number one dear management
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: in big bucks be the number one thing that matters
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: to them, and they start to lose a little bit
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: of the fun if they're not careful. And the number
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: one thing with hunting needs to be fun. Everybody's you know,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: what's fun to everybody is different. Uh. You know what,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I may hell something that I'm thrilled with,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: and you would kind of, you know, you might turn
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: your nose. I've had it their vice versa um. But
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: anytime somebody shoots a deer, you know, try to pat
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: him on the back and encourage them. Uh. And I've
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: heard people, you know, beat people up. I can't believe
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: he shot up a little bob um, you know. And
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: then the guys, you know, he's thrilled he's killed his
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: first deer or his third deer or whatever it is.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: But he shot it, and he got it in his truck,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: and now he's got people beating up on him. That
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: just seems to counter productive to me. I understand people
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: want to let deer grow up, but let people grow
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: into it themselves. Uh. And you know, and if you
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: want nothing but big bucks shoting on your property, make
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: sure you get like minded people together. But I think
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: you're doing it this service. If there's kids available, are
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: people new hunters available that you can take, and if
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: they shoot a dough or a young buck, you know
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: the world's not gonna end. Yeah, very true, very true.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: And I think this is a Hey, this is a
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: great place for us to wrap things up. But because
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: that's a great final thought to end on. So so Steve.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: If people, if there's anyone out there who wants to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: learn more about what you guys are doing, or utilize
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: some of your resources, or try one of your products, UM,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: where can they go and what should they do to
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: get to get connected with you guys? U Two places
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: they can get information from us. One is our website,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: whitetail Institute dot com. UM. It's got a wealth of
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: information on their uh everything from the beginning basics to
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: the to the you know, most expert guy that's been
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: doing it for decades and decades. There's information there that
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: will benefit them. Also something we have talked about it
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: at our eight hundred number, eight hundred six eight three
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: oh three. Oh, we've got consultant's available. We're open eight
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: to five Monday through Friday, say to five Central time,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. We've got guys here that that's what
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: that's always do. We answer the phone and answer questions
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: to help people, you know, decide what to plant or
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: how to you know, maintain them. Uh, just answering specific
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: questions and giving them information that can help them be
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: more successful. We've got hundreds of years of combined experience
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: doing this. UM, so they can use that eight hundred number.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: You know, if they want to buy somebody, that's great,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: we love that obviously, But if they just got a question, um,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: you know, pick up the phone and use that eight
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: hundred number, uh and ask whatever questions they want. You know,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: I've always you know, we've all heard this that the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: only dumb question one that's not asked. So don't be
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: afraid to ask, you know, anything that's on your mind
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: to get whether you're again just thinking about getting started,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: or if you've been doing it for two or three decades, Um,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: call us. I think we can help you, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Something that I wanted to mention to you too, was
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to offer to you know, to your listeners. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It's not even on our website yet, that they have
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  Speaker 1: to call eight hundred number to get this. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a d v days about forty minutes long that covers
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  Speaker 1: everything from starting to finish on food plots, uh, to
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  Speaker 1: help people get started. Um, if they've called that eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred number, what would do We're gonna ship it to
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  Speaker 1: him as five bucks and it's some of the moth
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  Speaker 1: best information that they can get, whether again, whether they're
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  Speaker 1: thinking about getting started at their beginning or if they've
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  Speaker 1: been doing it forever, there's information there that can benefit them.
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  Speaker 1: Uh covers a lot of the basics and goes a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more into detail as well. So well, but
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  Speaker 1: that Carr eight hundred number, eight hundred six eight three
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  Speaker 1: oh three. Oh, and just tell them that you know,
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  Speaker 1: got the number from wire to hunt. Want to take
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  Speaker 1: advantage of that DVD for five bucks? Well, if that
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  Speaker 1: covers the ship in handling, will send it to them,
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  Speaker 1: give him a lot of information, makes set down with
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  Speaker 1: their favorite beverage and some popcorn or whatever, and uh
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  Speaker 1: spent a little less than an hour. They're gonna learn,
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna learn something that's terrific. Well, I think that's uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great opportunity, and I appreciate Steve offering that
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  Speaker 1: up to every one tune in today And gosh, I
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  Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for spending this time with us
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  Speaker 1: to to kind of take our food plot to understanding
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  Speaker 1: to the next level. And tell you what You've got
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  Speaker 1: me excited to get out there and start working the dirt.
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  Speaker 1: Yea Mark, We sincerely appreciate the opportunity of being owned
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  Speaker 1: and uh look forward to the next time. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to the next time I see you at the show.
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  Speaker 1: We get to visit again as well. Sounds great, Steve,
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  Speaker 1: have a great afternoon and good luck this hunting season.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks marks same to you. And that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: it for us today. But a few quick things first.
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  Speaker 1: This is hot off the press the week of June.
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  Speaker 1: That's not next week, but the week after that. If
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: you're listening to this when it first came out June,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing an Instagram takeover for the
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, which means, in short, I'm gonna
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: be posting photos on their account for the week, along
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: with some cool stories and some thoughts on my part
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: related to the outdoors and conservation. And I'm doing this
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  Speaker 1: because the TRCP is doing some great work to support
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  Speaker 1: our wildlife and our wild place is and I've just
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: been really impressed with what they're doing and their mission.
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  Speaker 1: So with that said, be sure to follow the TRCP
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  Speaker 1: over on Insta so you can see what kind of
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  Speaker 1: cool stuff I might be posting during that week. That's
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: the week of June. Now, next, of course, we want
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  Speaker 1: to thank our partners who have supported this podcast. So
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: big things to Sick of Gear, Y, Eddie Coolers, Matthews Archery,
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  Speaker 1: Maven Optics, Whitetail, Institute of North America, Trophy Ridge and Hunt,
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  Speaker 1: Terra Maps, and a shout out to you guys too
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: for letting our partners know how much you appreciate them
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: supporting the podcast. One of you recently posted on Sick
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  Speaker 1: of Gears facebook page giving Wired to Hunt a nice
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: big shout out and that was super cool and so
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: greatly appreciate, so you know who you are. Big Things,
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  Speaker 1: And finally, thank you to all of you for listening.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate every single one of you out there. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you found some some stuff in this podcast episode
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  Speaker 1: to to get you pumped it out there and doing
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  Speaker 1: some food plots and to be working in the dirt.
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  Speaker 1: And until next time, I hope you'll stay Wired to Hunt.
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  Speaker 1: You do