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EDP46: FNUL NYE Classic, Valencia 10k & Houston Half predictions · Easy Double podcast

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Hello and welcome back to the Easy Double Podcast, episode 46,
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episode 1 of 2026. It feels weird that New Year was
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only just this week gone. I already feel like Christmas
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and New Year were like ages ago. I've forgot, forgotten about
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them almost. I don't know how you guys feel,
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but welcome Dean Menzies, how are you?
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Sunday afternoon. Good mate, yeah, no, making the
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most of the nice, nice weather here and making yeah got up, got
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a long run in so doing well. He says with a cheeky grin on
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his face whilst we're looking at Owen all wrapped up and snug in
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his Irish home. How you doing?
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Guys, when I tell you it is freezing, it's -2 feels like -7
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outside it is Baltic like probably like it's hard to run
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with the like, the wind in your face.
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It's so sore. Yeah.
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I've never experienced it before in my life.
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So yeah, it's not great for me. But we're getting through it.
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Just a couple more days telling him in the sun of Valencia.
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Well, hopefully not too sunny Valencia.
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So does the heating go on at like 6:00 AM or something?
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So I can't put my heating on a timer.
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So I had to like set an alarm for 6:00 turn because like you
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wake up and like you're just like when you go like you can
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like see the air if you get me and when you breathe out.
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So you have to set a timer to turn on the heat and but then
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the price of the heat. And so I leave it on for like 2
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hours, then turn it off. So I do that every every now and
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then. But yeah, not ideal.
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Because it's so hard to get out of bed when it's so cold, right?
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And like, even making it to the shower is just like, horrible.
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Or when you open the door to shower, fair enough, the warm
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water hits. Yet then when you open the door,
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just like a blast of cold air and you're like, Nope, come back
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on that water. Yeah, that like 2 seconds
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between the shower going off and getting the towel on you.
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It's torture. Yeah, it's not not ideal.
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But yeah, I hate to let you know that it is a stark contrast to
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what we've been experiencing, isn't it in.
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Yeah, I've just got out the pool.
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It's quite. Yeah.
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Well, I was going to complain about some of the runs this week
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because it's been pretty warm this week, not stifling, but
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yeah, very different, quite hot. Like, I don't remember Ireland
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ever being this cold, like, today, like, to Monday, it's
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like -3 Tuesday -2 Wednesday, zero with snow Thursday, one
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with snow, Friday. I might even get out to
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Valencia, you know, Saturday, eh -1 But then, like, because of
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the wind, it feels like -6 and -7 it's.
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Yeah. And the roads are lethal.
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Like you can't turn on them. As runners we can't turn anyway.
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But like, yeah, it's so hard to like turn.
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And you know, I got injured turning drum Brewer and Perth
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and I got injured turning so, so did I.
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The one, the one time it rained, I raced in it and I'm in the
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price. So I'd be, yeah, I'd be driving
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the extra distance to that treadmill.
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Yeah, yeah. Have you had to dig deep for
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your motivation levels during this winter, or have you been OK
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because you've been training well?
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No, I feel like once I've a race planned, like I'm, I'm just
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super motivated to like run that race.
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But it's sort of blessing and a curse because I in the past I've
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just planned races, races, races and your body just have no time
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to recover. So no, I'm always looking
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forward to something. So basically motivation at an
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all time high really. Apart from yesterday,
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yesterday's run was super, super shit.
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But that's just because of them. That was particularly bad by the
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rock. Yeah, yeah, didn't feel either.
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And yeah, stupid. Whatever half.
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We were speaking in the week in our WhatsApp chat about New Year
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and only one of us actually made it to see the New Year in.
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That was that was you and wasn't it?
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Dean and I were tucked up in bed.
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Yeah. Surprise, surprise, the wild
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party animal. Yeah, I went down to Cork with
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my when my girlfriend and her family and yeah, I just went to
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up her relation was playing live music in a pub in this tiny
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little pub. So yeah, I went down there.
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I think I stayed up to like half one or something like that, but
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then obviously slept in the next morning.
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But yeah, my sleeping pattern has been ruined this last two
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weeks. So and then I get back into the
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swing of things. Did you have any alcohol to stay
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up until that time or you you're on the Red Bull?
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I actually had a nap in the middle of the day so I could
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stay up that long and but no, wasn't drinking at all.
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My body. Do you guys have my body over
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there? My what?
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My body, oh, it's like a orange cordial or like Ray Bina.
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Yeah. Yeah, so my waddy's just the
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orange version. Export that one outside of
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Ireland. I don't think this episode
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right. We've got a few results to talk
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about from over the past week, bizarrely, mainly coming from
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the UK. Then we've got some elite
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fields. There's a lot of action going on
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next weekend on Sunday the 11th of January.
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So we're going to have a look at that there's a Houston half
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marathon with some interesting names in it as well.
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Cross country over in Florida. We can have a think about that
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and when his race in Valencia 10K along with a lot of or
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they're interestingly athletes that we seem to talk about every
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week. So we'll get into that too.
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Firstly, I am off on my holidays tomorrow for two weeks going
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going on tour. My friend is coming over and
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meeting him in Sydney. Spend like 5 days there and then
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I don't know if you got over there whilst you're here.
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I went to the Whitsundays. I went on a little trip there
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before I left. Man, it is incredible.
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You just have to watch out for a little jellyfish that can kill
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you. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm slightly
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concerned with the weather forecast because I don't know if
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it's going to be full of rain, but.
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Man, regardless, the water is crystal clear.
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It's, it's incredible. It's an incredible part of the
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world. OK, so.
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Is Becky coming with you? Nah, so my mates coming over,
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we're doing these two weeks and then he's coming back to Perth
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for a week with them. Becky and I here.
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The boys trip much running. We're done.
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No, no yourself. Yeah, yeah, that's the problem
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now. I won't be able to cycle.
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So all this for the fitness that I've managed to keep hold of may
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fall away somewhat. And my resolve on the like the
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return to run program and just doing every other day and all
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that might be tested because obviously I'll be wanting to do
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some things and I can't cycle. So I might just have to try and
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see if I can get a few day passes at local gyms here and
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there in. Between you won't lose much in
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like a week or two and you probably you've been going hard
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now for the last ages on the bike, so a little rest might do
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the world of good. Yeah, but you know, you, you
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quickly feel shit once you start.
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If say, if you allow yourself to think I'm on my holidays, you
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eat shit for like a week, you don't really train, then it's
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like you probably don't lose that much fitness, but you feel
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like you're starting from square 1 again.
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Yeah, yeah, it is what it is. And then after, actually after
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that, then we're going to Gold Coast for like 3 nights.
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Relive happy memories of Gold Coast Marathon.
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See if my fox is back to running yet.
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Take some Lincoln for them. That'll be a funny Lincoln.
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You can walk around together. Yeah, shit.
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Oh right. These results then.
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Battersea Park in the UK in London Friday night.
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No, not Friday night. New Year's Eve night.
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It was New Year's Eve classic. Friday night on the lights is
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the event. They put on five or six
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different events throughout the year.
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This one was sponsored by Mizuno.
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The prize money was 1000 Great British Pounds for first, £700
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for second and 400 lbs for 3rd and it was won by Easy Double
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Guest last year. Joe Wigfield in AI Think one
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second PB of 1336 and is very tightly contested.
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I don't know if you've seen the rails, because the guys second
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and third, Ted Higgins and Sebastiano Parolini, they both
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finished in 1337 officially. Actually, one of the listeners,
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I think Liam Kamadu, was there on the ground and he sent a
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video. EDM does a video through so you
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can literally see how close it is.
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How you do, It's so cool the way some of these athletes like wear
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the Mizuno gear. So you see them wearing the
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Mizuno singlet half tights and their new like shoe that a lot
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of people are talking about. It's so cool the way they do
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that. I think in reference to what Joe
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was saying, maybe as part of the setup of the race, the brand new
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sponsor it obviously, I assume they put the prize money forward
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and they give the athletes some race kit.
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So like they're not, they're not on like a sponsorship with them.
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But then Joe now he's probably got like Puma, Adidas and
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Mizuno, as well as maybe some of the race kits and shoes.
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Like, it's a decent little package if you're not going to,
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if you're not actually on a contract, isn't it?
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Just sidetracking on those Mizunas because I got to wear
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test some of them earlier in the year and are very good.
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They're like grip in particular is like phenomenal and now a
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very lightweight compared to a lot of the other shoes.
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I think like the ASIC super shoes now pretty comparable, but
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super poppy and responsive lightweight and their grip's
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really good. So I might have been back in
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those for a couple of those steadier runs I've done this
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week and feels really nice. And like the geometry of them is
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more like a traditional shoe because old Mizuno had like that
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massive cut out the heel which didn't suit a lot of people.
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Yeah. So I've, yeah, overtime being
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given a couple of pairs of the those super shoes and I just
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can't get them to work. Like just my foot strike doesn't
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work. These feel and there's not much
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it's much of A drop to them, which I don't mind.
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And I they feel a bit more like a traditional shoe, albeit
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they're not super high stacked, but they feel responsive and it
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feels like it has enough foam under foot like I am.
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So I think they're on to open up yeah.
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The only the only issue I think is just where they've put them
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for retail. That shoe that they've got out
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there now, I think it's like retailing for 420 bucks, which I
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just think is a bit too steep given what some of the other
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ones are on the market. But as far as the shoe goes, I
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think the shoes are late. Off the top of your head, can
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you think do Mizuno have any athletes under contract or do
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they not work like that? They're not in the space.
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Yeah, I can't think, I can't think of a name.
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I I know they do a lot of seating and provide a lot of
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shoes to different people, but as to actual athletes like we
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would associate with other shoe brands, no.
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I think Thomas Tej is the closest thing to that.
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Yeah, exactly. Maybe with them like sponsoring
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races like this, because that Friday night on the lights is
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one of like the the big ones on the UKC and isn't it?
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Maybe you will start to see them make a few more moves in the
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running space like that. The women's result?
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No, go on, sorry. Just a comment on the on the
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men's anything that you thought that Joe was wearing or using
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that might have given him the edge 13 by a second.
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I might have ran a couple of seconds quicker if you didn't
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have that nose tape on I reckon. Yeah, my God, I seen that.
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God No, Joe. I saw he, I saw nose tape on him
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and then I also saw in our when we get to it, but the Houston
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half preview, you see the picture of Galen Rupp that's
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been used for promotional material.
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I think if you zoom in on that, that's nose tape right there,
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so. Almost a broken nose.
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I am open to being to changing my mind.
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However I did try and do some research when I was decide
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because my initial point of view on this nose tape was like it's
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stupid. So I was like OK let's go and do
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some reading. Like is that actually any
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scientific benefit behind it? And that's why I've taken a hard
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stance because the research so far so far shows that like
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athletic performance, there's zero to be gained from it.
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Because as soon as you increase your effort to the point where
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you stop breathing through your mouth.
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So like any, anything you use for your nose is all through
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like day-to-day sedentary activity or sleeping.
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That's why you feel a lot of benefit through it from
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sleeping, but whilst under cardio activity you breathe
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through your mouth. Like if you're able to breathe
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your nose on a run, you're not running hard enough, or a hard
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like race or whatever, you're not running hard enough.
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That's what I stand by. Interesting.
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Wow, I don't know they they Nike Oregon project might know a bit
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about it. I'd assume we a we.
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Heard what Cam Levin said at the Night Guardian project.
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No good. No good in the bin.
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Leave that in 2025. What washed?
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There may be some placebo effect, and that's fine if
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people find a placebo effect from it, but I've clearly made
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my bed now, so I'm going to have to lay in it until scientific
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research says otherwise. I actually might wear some in
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Valencia, see if. The women's results at this meet
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was won by Alexander Bell. Do you remember her?
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She was a 800m runner for a long time.
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Now she's on the roads 1523. Second was Hannah Irwin 1526 and
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3rd Alexander Millard also 1526. So another very tightly
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contested podium. I was looking as well.
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It's actually a pretty quick time that 1523 up for 5K on the
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roads for the British ladies goes in at #11 all time.
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But isn't but I see like pancake flat like it's a perfect loop.
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Yeah, it's perfect for. It and everyone seemed to run
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fast that night. If you compare to the men's
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result though, 1336 I didn't look exactly but I doubt that is
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quite as high as eleven all time.
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But still, 1336 is absolutely rapid.
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Sure. I mean, both those podiums are
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great, right? close races, fast times.
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It's the UK with these Rd. shorter, relatively shorter Rd.
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races. They seem to do it really well I
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think. Yeah, there's so much
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opportunity with the road races. Like when when I moved over, I
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found the kind of the change from being focused on the roads
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to like track having a big part in what you do and you race
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calendar and stuff not challenging, but it's obvious
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the difference. So like, I don't know if you
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agree. Oh and or you might disagree let
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me know. Like UK and Ireland it seems to
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be only like the top athletes would be doing stuff on the
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track like racing and or training whereas like everyone
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is doing the road races like that's for the masses.
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Yeah, like, I feel like, I feel like the track is pretty
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intimidating just for the average runner.
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I don't know why, whether it's this word like you're like on
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track is known to wear spikes or I don't know what it is, but
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yeah, I feel like people are intimidated by the tracks.
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So it's only like the select few that umm, actually run sort of
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similar to cross country. Like, you know, we have the
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average like road runner, daily hobby jogger doing like a cross
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country race. They just umm, sign up for the
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road races. But yeah, that's that's the
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same. Yeah, it's big over.
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Here there was about that you go.
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I was going to say there was an event in Ireland, a race in
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Ireland as well, so you just finish off here.
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OK, on Bell there she saying she used to run 800.
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She actually finished 7th in Tokyo, I was about to say only
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three years ago and then it's Tokyo 2021.
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So it's now getting on for five years ago.
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So she, she ran 157 in Tokyo there and she's actually like
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fully switched to the roads now looking at her power of 10 in
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2025. Last year she's ran 12345 KS,
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12410 KS and even a half marathon as well.
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So and a half marathon and, and A10 KS 3131 at the London
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Vitality 10K and 70-O four at the Mizuno Half Marathon in
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Amsterdam. Like she's clearly not just gone
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to the roads for a laugh. Like she's having a good crack.
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Yeah, that's good inside. Didn't know that she.
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Didn't like that UK 800 meter women's team is absolutely
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stacked between Georgia Bell, Keely Hutchinson, I'm pretty
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sure David Jamiriki as well and it's so deep.
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Remember as well, what's the Phoebe Gill?
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She's like the 1718 year old. Another one.
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I think she had like stresses or something last year.
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She'll be back. There was a, there was a big
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race in Art, well probably the biggest race in that New Year
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period. And there was a, a Tom Brennan
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Memorial 5K which was a looped course in the Phoenix Park and
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that was won by a Hugh Armstrong on the lad side by Hugh
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Armstrong in 1444. He came seventh in National
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Cross and so he's been doing a few Rd. races recently.
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Ben Brunton from Saint Bridget Stacy was second in 1457 and
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then Christopher Keenan was third in 15 O four.
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And just special shout out to 4th Adam Nason, avid listener.
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He ran 15 O 9. So that was the lads and the
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females. I'll just get them up.
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That PV for Adam. Any idea?
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No, he's run 1448 or 9 I think in a 5K before Christmas there.
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So he still has to run off some of the Turkey apparently.
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Are you are you familiar with him besides the podcast?
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No, no, it's crazy. Yeah, that's cool.
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And on the female side, it was won by Faye Durvin in 1626 from
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Domes Harriers. Second was Sheila O'burn, who
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ran 1652 and then third was Helena Butterly who ran 1659.
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So yeah, that was probably the biggest race around the
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Christmas period in Ireland or New Year's.
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We probably have spoken about this previously, but like is the
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main is the premier light road 5K in Ireland in in the in the
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region the armor 5K that be. So technically that's not
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Ireland. Nice Northern.
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Ireland yeah, like the National 5K will be umm, like Arma is the
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fastest 5K, but OK, the like the National 5K will be in the
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Phoenix Park in UMM in summer. So like there's a series,
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there's like the National 5K, five mile, 10K or 10 mile.
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And recently the 10K, the National 10K was actually held
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in a village like close to me where I do a lot of my track
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work, called them Boeing, but and that's been taken off them
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this year and that's been thrown in the Phoenix park as well.
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So umm, a lot of them big national races are around the
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Phoenix Park, which I don't really like.
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I prefer if they trolled them around the country and.
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Yeah, and and so, but they they run over yours summer even
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though it's umm Rd. racing, so that road racing runs through
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your June, July. Or this.
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Yeah, yeah. So like the national or there's
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a big, massive dump. See marathon, half marathon,
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Dublin city half marathon. So last year it was on in like
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March and now it's been thrown on on like the 3rd of May.
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So sort of in the middle of the track season or when people are
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getting started into track season.
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And yeah, so I'd say like majority Rd. races will be run
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through the the summer and that race series that I was talking
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about there, that all leads up to Dublin Marathon.
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So it's like you can buy like a package and you get all them.
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You do all these Rd. races is part of your training ahead of
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and a crescendos with the marathon.
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Basically it just UPS it every time.
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So you do like the 5K, five mile, 10 mile, half marathon and
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then, yeah, the big one. That won the race that you just
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done. The results from there that just
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came comes a little bit too close to your Valencia race for
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you to have done that because obviously you've done the race
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last weekend and was there. Oh, no.
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Christmas 27th, yeah. And I didn't even know it was
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on. Like I need to get way more
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clued into like the big Rd. races that are happening.
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I didn't even know it was on. So I literally just picked the
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local one for me basically. And I knew the course is pretty
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good. So yeah, that's why I picked the
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Navin 1. Was there any prize money at
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that one? The one you recap. €100 which
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could be they don't. I might get in serious trouble
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for this but I'm going to say it anyway.
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I think the age category prizes are absolutely crazy.
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Like they had £100 for freaking over 3540506070 male and female.
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So you're 1. That they should.
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You gotta. You gotta respect your elders.
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You're one who won the female side.
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She got £100 for the overall and the over 40 or something and
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it's yeah, I don't know how I feel about it.
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I think maybe, I don't know, I'm, I'm all about a bit of
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prize money rewarding people for doing well.
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But you would think it would be proportionate, like it shouldn't
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be the person that wins should get the lot.
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Like if you win the race you would get more, wouldn't you
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then? And then an age group, I would
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have thought. Yeah.
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So yeah, I feel like there should be like time bonuses as
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well or something. I don't know how they should do
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it, but it's hard. Yeah, yeah.
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You would think it'd be structured towards people that
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are putting in, you know, yeah. Yeah, some somewhat comparable
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to like the the 3rd place finish or something like that for an
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age group when seems to be general consensus maybe do you
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want to do your training or do we do these?
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Yeah, let's go. Do you want to?
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Do you want to lead off with your training run?
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I'll go and then quickly I rode 6 times this week I had I had to
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have day off because last week I rode 7 times through the
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Christmas period with the additional public holidays and
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just find yourself have more time because of that.
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But then I was feeling the fatigue from that this week, so
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much so that I consulted my psychiatrist, Mr. ChatGPT and
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explained my symptoms of fatigue and it sounds like I have been
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on the fuel and surprise surprise.
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We didn't call this like a month ago.
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Yeah, so the, the muffin afterwards just isn't
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substantial. It's not cutting the mustard.
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But basically I was feeling tired from like like on work
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days and stuff or any day from like midday, which is just
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weird. Like if you tired generally, you
25:09
might stop feeling tired like 7 PM, 8:00 PM when you sit down or
25:12
something. But tired at midday all the way
25:15
through to like 5 or something in the evening.
25:18
And I was like, this isn't normal.
25:20
What's going on? So through a bit of back and
25:23
forth with Doctor ChatGPT, he identified that although I have
25:28
breakfast before the ride, like 2 pieces of toast or whatever,
25:32
and then my oats afterwards, the hole that I'm creating whilst
25:36
I'm riding isn't being filled up because I'm not fueling during.
25:42
And then for even more of a double down on that when I'm
25:46
just having a bloody muffin afterwards, that's just
25:51
wasteless carbs. Because if I had the carbs
25:55
during the ride, it's helping me with fueling to perform an
25:58
energy, but if I'm having the carbs afterwards, it's a waste
26:01
of time. I should probably be having
26:03
protein or something to actually help with recovery.
26:07
So trying to be a bit more smart.
26:08
So during these six rides on two of them Saturday and today
26:12
Sunday, I took out two chocolate hot cross buns in my in my
26:20
little vest bib neck thing because I don't know if you're
26:24
aware Owen, but these the ride and tops, they're like zip
26:27
through skin type things on the back of them.
26:30
They have like these very handy pockets so you can reach around,
26:34
there's like 3 pockets usually so you can carry your phone,
26:37
your keys, any gels or whatever. And obviously because you're
26:40
kind of like bent over, they just rest on your back and you
26:43
don't realize it's there. So I had I had two chocolate hot
26:47
cross buns floating around on my back and at one point on
26:51
Saturday I pulled one out and was nibbling on it and a guy
26:55
went past me and he's like, have you packed a picnic Mace?
26:59
You are apparently you did well on that Rod.
27:02
The guys are saying run. Yes, they're very much at the
27:06
back of a rather fast pack and managed to survive.
27:09
There's a few touch and go moments but if anyone seen my
27:13
Strava the caption was DB AP which was the mantra I was given
27:18
to myself as it was getting tough and I was thinking about
27:21
dropping off which stands for Don't be a pussy.
27:24
So I managed to hung hang in there like.
27:28
If you could like do you have any like carb mixes in a drink?
27:33
Like I'd say they'd be even easier to go down and then a
27:36
freaking hot cross bone be toasted or soggy by the time you
27:41
get eaten it. Yeah, well, because it's
27:43
chocolate, the warmth of my back warmed it up a bit, so it was
27:47
nice and melted. Oh dear, actually, did you ever
27:50
try the Biscoff ones then? Oh so good.
27:53
Oh, lethal so so they're already in the supermarkets here.
27:57
I've been through a pack Easter. Because they're normally come in
28:00
just before Easter. Yeah, they were in on Boxing
28:03
Day. Wow.
28:07
Put them down there, your big Nixon.
28:10
You'll never you'll never under fuel again.
28:12
If if hot cross buns is going to be my fuel and method, they
28:15
might do a hot cross bun counter between now and eastern see how
28:18
many I can get through. There could be a little trick
28:23
for the marathon as well, just nimble on one of them.
28:26
Well in all honesty I don't know, half marathon in Melbourne
28:30
the other year and the day before when I was doing like a
28:32
semi car blur that I smashed 3 hot cross buns and around well
28:38
so maybe it's the way to go for me.
28:41
Just do the most not running things and you'll run well.
28:45
That's the way it seems to work. This is not advice where you
28:50
have to stipulate, it's not financial advice.
28:52
This is not performance or fuel and advice.
28:57
Yeah. But besides that, I think 360
29:00
odd K ended up with on the bike and three runs.
29:04
So I was up to 2 by 15 minutes today, which felt good.
29:09
So itching to keep them ticking over.
29:11
I'd done it at like 11:00, so it was very hot, which was good
29:14
because my, I don't know, maybe four 20s pace for these 4
29:19
fifteens enabled me to stay in the high one 40s, low one 50s
29:24
heart rate. So got half an hour's worth of
29:26
Zone 2, coincidentally. That's a that's a great training
29:30
week. Yeah, yeah.
29:34
Moving forwards, how about you? You're a few steps ahead of me
29:38
going well as well. Think.
29:40
Yeah, yeah. I can recap my week.
29:42
I should mention do you know on Strava it it shows you an
29:48
activity from one year ago? Oh yeah.
29:50
And it was the the set we did around late Munga, you know
29:54
which Crescendo did a park run, you know the three by 5K that we
29:58
did. I was so cooked.
30:04
That was a hard warning, but yeah, that was that was this
30:08
time last year. Did you manage to dip on the 15
30:11
minutes on that last one? I think it was maybe 15 flat.
30:18
Oh, I've got 15-15 or three. Sure.
30:22
I think was I like 1540 on that last one.
30:25
I think yeah, it definitely feels like a year ago if not 5
30:29
based. On that my week I should have
30:38
this up. So yeah, I was off work this
30:42
week and I found a bit of a loop from home, which was about 12
30:47
KS, which I kept doing those days, but I did that loop
30:52
morning and afternoon on the Monday.
30:55
It was recently warm. I ended up doing it a bit
30:58
quicker than what I had been, so closer to that sort of four
31:02
minute pace on Monday and then every second day I was just
31:07
having as a lighter day. So I was 24 KS on the Monday,
31:10
but then only 10 KS running a bit easier with some strides on
31:13
Tuesday, Wednesday back to in that loop around that sort of
31:18
four minute to four minute 10 pace again.
31:21
Is this your herdsman loop? Yeah, they've just added it.
31:25
It goes around Herdsman, but it has a there's a new bike path on
31:29
the way back that I can jump on that makes it a a loop rather
31:33
than just straight up and back the same Rd.
31:35
So I don't know, I just F feel like loops are better than out
31:39
and back. So yeah, did that twice again on
31:43
the Wednesday. Thursday again, just another
31:46
easy jog and some STR. Oh no, an easy jog to someone's
31:50
house. That was New Year's Day.
31:52
And then the afternoon, just a jog and some strides.
31:55
Very small jog, 25 minutes and some strides.
32:00
Friday again, do it. I did that loop in the morning
32:03
around that 4 minute pace and then just an easy 30 minutes in
32:06
the afternoon. Saturday was the group ride, not
32:10
with Ryan, I just went with the another group.
32:13
But yeah, it's about 80 KS. And then this morning was 80
32:16
minutes around, yeah, 415 pace. Everything's feeling much
32:24
better. The only time where I feel a
32:27
bit, it feels a bit unpleasant that joint is when I'm having to
32:30
move fast. So I'm just a bit hesitant to do
32:32
anything that's moving too quickly.
32:35
But certainly like this zone one, Zone 2 running feels fairly
32:38
pleasant, which is good. And like the next day I'm in no
32:42
discomfort at all, which is nice.
32:43
So yeah, really happy with how things are trending.
32:47
Road 80, KS ran 110. Boys getting back.
32:52
Getting there. So Ballarat is not off the cards
32:54
yet, huh? I I don't think I'll, I won't
32:58
look to pick a race. I'll say this to Ryan, I think
33:03
there's so many great races that we can choose from.
33:06
I'll just look to get fit 1st and then I'll find something to
33:09
train for. I think if I pick a race I'll
33:11
just get excited, so I won't look to pick anything.
33:14
Maybe a little boys trip to Melbourne, huh?
33:16
Melbourne Marathon. Maybe.
33:18
Maybe. It clashes with our our home,
33:23
our home. Race shit.
33:25
The one we spoke so highly of last year.
33:28
That's right, I. Might be flying.
33:31
I might be flying back over for that one.
33:33
For what for Malcolm might be? For Brett.
33:36
They signed you instead of Paul Ian.
33:41
This is close similar name Ian Owen.
33:45
Easily confused. Yeah, Dean, you've been on your
33:50
Strava, you've been building your mileage ever so slightly
33:54
and consistently now, haven't you?
33:55
Like so your body's obviously got used to it during this
33:59
period, but given you've run over 100K for the first time
34:02
this week, does it like injury aside, just body in general,
34:07
does it seem to be handling it OK?
34:09
Yeah, it does. Like, you know, the normal
34:14
tightness you get, like, I'm getting tight in different
34:17
areas, but none of them feel foreign.
34:21
But certainly in the last few weeks, it's felt better.
34:24
Like in those first four weeks, everything felt pretty
34:29
uncomfortable. Like all that stuff felt really
34:32
unpleasant mechanically moving. Whereas now it feels, yeah, it
34:35
feels much more normal, which is good if that's what you mean.
34:41
Like I, I just remember being it everything feeling much more
34:45
difficult in the first maybe 5 weeks, getting everything,
34:49
loading everything up. Whereas now it's feeling much
34:51
better. I'm doing a lot more prehab
34:54
stuff in the morning though, so that when I do get out the door,
34:57
it feels much better. Whereas next week once I'm
35:00
jogging back into work, I'll probably have to do what I
35:02
normally do, which is jog for 5 minutes, stretch a bit and
35:05
loosen up and then get going. Yeah, 100K plus riding as well.
35:09
Now that's you're almost, I know you're not putting any intensity
35:14
back into your runs yet, but you've almost moved out of the
35:16
like return to run phase. And from here you could, you'll
35:19
actually start to build fitness properly now, even if you just
35:23
stay with consistent like relatively easy mileage plus the
35:27
rides. Yeah, I feel like I'm getting
35:29
fitted yourself. Like if I could do these weeks
35:32
for the next 4 weeks it wouldn't be bad I don't think.
35:34
Yeah, good base building time. Fuck Campi.
35:40
I. That's.
35:41
Right. I gotta get in shape.
35:44
In shape. I got kudos from today's run
35:47
from rent in Japan, So I appreciated the you might be
35:51
saying something that's slightly better than just a plod, So I
35:56
appreciated that. Oh shit, so if Owen was a tough
35:59
kudos, he's been even tougher. Yes.
36:02
If it's not a 30K day, does it really?
36:04
Is it really a day? Yeah, I'm, I've probably been
36:07
unfollowed actually. Nice.
36:12
Mr. Valencia, how's how's your final preparations been?
36:16
I it's been going OK, still in one piece, which is a positive,
36:22
but I'm yeah, just trying to keep a living things on.
36:25
Started off with them just a 60 minute easy run on Monday 60
36:32
minutes at like 4 fifteens and not evening I just done 45
36:37
minutes easy so 10K at 4 sixteens.
36:44
Tuesday was a track workout. So this Tuesday I was actually
36:50
driving down to Cork for New Year's Eve and Cork is like Cork
36:55
is a massive county in Ireland. So where I'm from it takes like
37:03
let's say 2 hours to get to Cork city, but where I was going was
37:09
like another hour and a half hour and 45 past Cork city and
37:13
you're still in Cork. So it's basically like Next Stop
37:16
America, New York. So I had to get my Rd. in pretty
37:20
early. The session was it was 6 minute
37:26
threshold at the start and then it was 4 by 2K.
37:33
So that worked out. I was trying to hit these two
37:35
K's in around 3-3 minutes, three O 1.
37:42
So I was pretty, I was pretty bang on, but the first one was
37:48
was 6 O one, second Rep was six O 1, 3rd Rep was I think 6 and
37:57
then the final 2K was 257. So yeah, this session, I find
38:06
this session super head solo. Like you're just running like so
38:10
many laps of the track and along the back straight there was a
38:12
bit of a headwind as well. And so I was just happy to get
38:17
it done. And the recovery in between them
38:20
was 2 minutes, thirty. So pretty decent recovery just
38:23
to like totally like recuperate. And I done it in a pair of old
38:28
and super shoes and my first ever pair of super shoes,
38:31
actually the first like ASIC Meta speed Plus or something
38:35
like that. So.
38:37
How many KS do we put on them then?
38:39
Oh, there's like 300 on them now.
38:43
So yeah, they'll be going in the in the bin.
38:45
And I wear my the new behind super company for the ones that
38:49
I wore Maragami, I haven't worn them in a race since that.
38:53
So yeah, I'll bang. I'll break them out pretty soon.
38:57
This session didn't make its way to the you strive A followers
39:02
notice. Yeah, I noticed that as well.
39:06
I haven't been posting much. I only post sort of the sexy
39:08
stuff because I feel like I just clogged up the freaking the feed
39:14
and yeah, I probably should have posted this one.
39:17
And I normally like detail. I didn't even like normally
39:22
assign shoes to sessions so I can see what mileage is on
39:24
shoes. I haven't even done this for
39:26
this one. This today.
39:27
What? That day was a hectic day, to be
39:28
fair. Like as soon as I finished this,
39:32
went home, got some more breakfast and started the long
39:36
drive down to Cork and so. He's gone all VIP on us.
39:43
Do we have to pay to get access to?
39:45
His I don't know what, I don't know what we have to do with.
39:48
Followers, just listen to the podcast and you'll hear it.
39:55
He. Could be saying anything now I
39:57
didn't. Last Rep was 539.
40:05
Yeah, you'll see Valencia that. So then I finished that session
40:13
at around 11:15. So by the time I got home,
40:16
showered, ate breakfast, I said it was like half 12 when I hit
40:19
the road. Umm, So we, I stopped at this
40:25
play. I stopped like an hour on the
40:27
journey to get a sandwich because I still had another run
40:30
to do so. Umm and then we drove for
40:33
another hour and stopped in this place called a casual in
40:37
Tipperary. If you look up, if you guys look
40:39
up Cashel in Tipperary, there's a stunning like rock castle as
40:45
you're driving into it. So yeah, I literally pulled over
40:49
there. My girlfriend and her sister,
40:51
they went to get lunch and I ran for an hour.
40:55
Is that why it's named Cashel after the castle or?
40:57
Yeah, I don't know. It's called the Rock of Cashel,
41:01
but there's a castle there can. You see Cashel see a small town.
41:06
Yeah, well, it's actually pretty big.
41:11
And so yeah, I don't an hour. So it was like 13 K at 4:20
41:16
sixes. So like that was a big day.
41:18
That's a That's a 30K day and the next.
41:22
Day second run was only like 3 hours or so after your your
41:26
first session. Yeah, yeah, so well, how do you?
41:29
Feel. It was at 1451, it says on
41:35
Strava. I actually felt all right, to be
41:37
honest, once you're going like now the next day I probably felt
41:40
a little bit tired, but umm, no, it was grand.
41:44
I'm sort of banking a lot of mileage in the early start of
41:46
the week, early part of the week.
41:48
So then like like I've basically started tapering.
41:51
I had a day off on New Year's Day and then I just done a
41:55
little session yesterday. But anyway, umm, so the New
42:00
Year's Eve, I actually the part we're going to Darren
42:04
Mcelhenney, the Irish runner. He's from there and I text his
42:10
brother Owen Mcelhenney. He I text him for to go for a
42:13
run and we both went out for 60 minutes.
42:17
So that was 13.8 K four 20s. And these were like rolling
42:22
hills and the views were stunning.
42:25
Like I could easily like live down here.
42:27
Now, there's no track, which is the only bad thing, but the loop
42:29
is is stunning. Yeah, it's a place called
42:33
Glengariff and the tiny little tourist town which is in
42:38
literally the backyards of nowhere.
42:40
Dean, do you reckon he's he signed the deal with like the
42:43
tourism board an island or something, the way he's going
42:45
through all? These it sounds beautiful.
42:48
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42:52
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42:55
Is Darren Michael Henry's brother Owen?
42:58
Is he a good runner? Yeah, he ran that tell for 10K
43:01
and he ran like 2936 or 38 or something like that.
43:06
So yeah, there's something in the family.
43:09
It was pretty coastal there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, certainly.
43:11
Like Next up America, but there's just big mountains in
43:15
the background. And we were so lucky with the
43:17
weather. Beautiful.
43:19
It was just a lovely crisp cold. And so.
43:24
Yeah. He Salmon rock.
43:25
Did you see that? No, I actually didn't see that
43:27
2. 100 people, apparently population 200.
43:32
Yeah, that's gorgeous. So yeah.
43:36
And then I dressed that even enough had New Year's Day off
43:42
and then I drove back up home and because I had my last sort
43:46
of like proper big session on Saturday, which was yesterday.
43:51
So the usual one would cool down and then this was for four sets
43:58
of 5 by 400 meters, so just 20 by 400 off 30 seconds and jog a
44:05
lap between sets. So these I was hitting around
44:08
like 60 eights, 60 sevens, which which was good.
44:15
So that's like 10K worth of work and I wore was wearing the Puma.
44:20
Oh, no, the Nike peg plus. So sort of like not the standard
44:27
peg, but there's a bit more pop to it.
44:31
And yeah, I felt like after the first Rep I was like, might be
44:36
able to hold on for this, but I feel like the lap jog just gives
44:39
you, gives you sort of like a new lease of life because 30
44:43
seconds is nothing like you literally cross the line. 10
44:48
seconds is up by the time you get back this another 10 seconds
44:51
and then you're going again. So yeah, it's super, super short
44:55
recovery. And then that evening I done
45:00
another 60 minutes, so 13.7 K at 420 threes and it started to get
45:09
cold. So that evening it was frosty,
45:13
like you're wearing like a snood just layering up.
45:16
And then yesterday morning, we I got out for just 45 minutes easy
45:23
because that was like another 30K day on, on the Friday.
45:28
So sorry. They then literally just four or
45:30
five minutes and I went up to this place called the Hella
45:32
Tara. It's another magical place.
45:35
Yeah, it's really cool. But it's just a grass, basically
45:38
a loop. Both pretty hilly because the
45:41
roads are too icy to run on. And I got I think 20 minutes
45:45
into this run and I just felt super super shit.
45:48
I don't know why. Like I had my normal breakfast
45:50
of like 2 sizes of toasted coffee then I stretched out and
45:53
then I went up. But I don't know whether it was
45:55
like the cold. Like my body was literally like,
45:57
it's probably the coldest run I've done in like 5 years and my
46:01
body was in shock. But I, yeah, after 20 minutes I
46:06
have to run back to the car. And like, I've dislike emergency
46:08
like square bar. I know we always thought I'd
46:11
leave like a serial bar in my car just in case I feel shit
46:13
during a run. And so yeah, I literally ate
46:15
that, sat in the car for a few minutes and then I got back out
46:19
and like, I felt much better. But you know, it's just that
46:21
like light week feeling in a run just feels shit.
46:27
But yeah, I got it done anyway. 10K at 433 pace.
46:30
And now today I have a 70 minute run scheduled.
46:36
But like, it's all really just jogging here.
46:39
I think I've sort of a session on Tuesday.
46:41
It's like a bit of threshold and then 21K's at like 5K pace or
46:46
something like that. So the bulk of the work is done,
46:48
I just need to stay healthy, which is everyone is sick.
46:53
I'm dreading going back into work tomorrow and everyone will
46:56
be coughing and spluttering and yeah, but look, nearly there.
47:03
That's 110 so far. So another 70 minute run.
47:07
I might get 100 and 2000 and 24 odd let's say.
47:11
It's a great wake. Yeah, get in there.
47:14
Then did you feel better for the rest of the day yesterday?
47:17
Did you change what you would be after a run to try and bump it
47:21
up or anything like that? What happened after?
47:23
So like I mix it up sometimes I've like if I time I've like a
47:27
bowl of porridge before I run and then I just wait that little
47:30
bit longer, let digest and so and put I normally during the
47:36
week when I'm going to the gym, I just have literally 2 slices
47:39
of this. It's like a fruit loaf.
47:41
So it's got like it's basically bread with like raisins in it.
47:43
I love it. But the the the slices are
47:45
pretty small. But that normally does me and
47:48
for like my easy like our run for a 5 minute run in the
47:51
morning. I just don't know why whether it
47:53
was like the cold, like my body was working extra hard to like
47:56
stay warm or something like that.
47:59
And bought Yeah, I don't know why.
48:02
Like I'm I'm sort of making like a conscious effort now to
48:06
because I'm not going to be training as much the next little
48:09
like this might be totally wrong and I need to talk to my
48:11
dietitian about this. But I'm going to try and like
48:14
cut back a little bit on the carbs, just like maybe try and
48:18
get a little bit lighter. Like apparently my Raceway is
48:21
like 70 KG and at the moment I'm like 72.
48:25
So if I could lose like, and I know I'm normally around like
48:29
7172, but and that could be a lot of water weight as well.
48:33
So if I could get to Valencia around like 70 and like I'm only
48:37
running once a day now. So I feel like I don't need to
48:40
eat like let's say for breakfast, I might have like 2
48:43
scoops of parts instead of three.
48:44
So like nothing crazy, just little things here and there.
48:47
And then come like Friday, Saturday trying like like you
48:52
don't need a cab load for a 10K. It's like you're running like a
48:54
Mart. Like it's certainly hopefully 30
48:55
minutes worth of running. So it's not going to be the end
48:58
of the world. Just like before the race stand.
48:59
Sort of like eat a good dinner fueled.
49:02
Nice breakfast and yeah, ready to rock.
49:05
I reckon it's natural. I reckon everyone thinks that
49:08
way. Like coming into the taper, all
49:10
I can, I need to back off my diet a little bit just to like
49:13
stay light and fresh and stuff. Because I know I've kind of
49:17
thought that before. And then but then when you hear
49:20
someone else say it, you, you like, yeah, we don't need to do
49:24
that. But then I physically do it.
49:26
So it's easier to tell someone else what to do than to tell
49:29
yourself what to do. So I'm with you on it.
49:33
And like it's like around 20, around 1427 the other day and
49:39
like, I don't know, around Christmas you're sort of like
49:41
paranoid that you're eating a little bit more like a few
49:44
chocolates here and there. So it's produced in my own head
49:47
as well. Actually get to the start line,
49:49
get it over and done with, but no, even looking at the fields
49:53
like it's super, super exciting. Are we able to ask what a good
49:57
day looks like? My PB at the moment is like
50:01
3041, so under that would be like that's minimum.
50:08
If I don't get under that it's going to be a terrible day and
50:10
it's my own fault. But like I'd love to break 30
50:14
and I think I should like I think I'm going to go out pretty
50:18
like if I go out and 15 hit the 5K and 15, I should be able to
50:22
kick down off that. And like I'm the first I've ever
50:25
been on the session sort of like are showing it.
50:29
And so like if I like, I don't know them session this week off
50:35
like heavy legs and all that sort of shit.
50:37
So when I freshen up, get into a nice pack, like I don't want to
50:42
put a number on it because God only knows what can happen.
50:45
So look, I I want to break 30. It's just how far under we'll
50:52
see. You'd imagine there will be a
50:55
massive group going through halfway in 15 minutes.
50:59
They'll probably be like a lot of people immediately ahead of
51:03
it as well and like getting a little bit of a little bit
51:05
excited. So the temptation will be do you
51:08
go with it or not? But yeah, if you can, if you can
51:11
stay in that 15 dead group, you you should hopefully go well
51:14
from there and like. It's there's I'm in the third
51:18
wave, so there's the elites, there's the sub elites and then
51:22
there's me. So I'm my wave is like the 30 to
51:25
31. So if I could yeah.
51:28
And there's 30 seconds between each wave apparently.
51:33
What? From what I've seen, So yeah,
51:37
you never know, you might start, boys might blow up and you might
51:40
start reeling back to people in. But like when they get a 32nd
51:43
head starting, Yeah, like it's over 200 meters.
51:46
So look, we'll see. I'm not going to go out like an
51:48
idiot anyway saying that. Problem almost the perfect group
51:54
to be in, because if you think of it, everyone who has a PB
51:56
between 30 and 31, they're probably going to try and be
51:59
breaking 30, whereas if you're in the one ahead of that,
52:02
they're all maybe looking at like 29 low or something.
52:05
You might just get sucked through too quick.
52:07
Yeah, exactly. And like in my hand, I'm like
52:10
off, I get into that group. I could just start off store,
52:13
but no, I think I'm in the right group.
52:16
I just need to like perform and like pull it off.
52:21
Exciting. Yeah, can't wait.
52:23
Flying out on them, flying out on Friday.
52:26
So I'll have a little bit of time there.
52:28
Well, the women's elite happened to start.
52:30
Like will you be out of key off anyone that's getting paced,
52:32
light paced or anything like that?
52:34
I feel like they should be beside the elite men.
52:37
So I don't know. I think I've seen the fastest
52:40
woman is like a 2954 girl umm so would have been nice to sort of
52:45
start with them but umm I'm not I I'm pretty sure this starts on
52:51
like two sides. I watched the start of it the
52:52
other day and it's like two sides of a street they start on.
52:56
So hopefully they put the women on one side and like the men on
52:59
the other side. But I'm really not sure how
53:02
that's going to happen. Like my number, I think my
53:05
number is like 719. So I'm, I, I could be like the
53:09
719th like fast. I don't know how because like
53:15
3041, like there's so many guys that are going to be faster.
53:19
There's 16,000 in the race for 10K which is pretty crazy.
53:22
That's cool. Yeah.
53:25
It's a shame they are releasing people in different waves like
53:29
it couldn't be a messed up. Yeah, I know.
53:32
It's just the same thing with Japan, but it's probably
53:36
probably makes sense in case. Just get through congested,
53:40
yeah. Yeah, and someone could fall and
53:41
that's like just a massive pile up.
53:44
But yeah, whilst we're here, let's do the elite fields
53:47
because they are released. We've got Almgren taking a swing
53:51
at his own European record of 2653.
53:55
He's the second seed behind Edwin Kirgat.
53:58
He's got APB of 2646 and working down.
54:02
There's then an Ethiopian guy who's also sub 27, a South
54:06
African guy, sub 27, Isaac Kameli, who was the bronze
54:10
medallist. Tokyo in the 10,000 meters this
54:12
year is in there, so we know he can run a good 10K.
54:16
Owens countryman Efrem G Day is in there.
54:19
He's the current national record holder.
54:21
They might be looking to lower that, you reckon?
54:23
Owen, 2726. Yeah, him or maybe some of the
54:27
other lads who are on that Euro Cross team, like there's a group
54:30
from there that are super, super fit at the moment.
54:32
So the Irish record could go down, a lot of them looking for
54:36
that Euro standard, which is 2750.
54:39
So yeah, maybe start off around that pace and hopefully kick it
54:43
down. Is that national record?
54:46
Is that 10K on track that get a 26.95?
54:50
And you don't normally go to the 100th unless it's on the track,
54:53
right? It is because below him is
54:56
listed the male caress and it says 2727 from Birmingham 2025
55:03
and that's a 10K on the 10,000 meter time.
55:06
So they must have just taken a seed time from track or the
55:09
road. Yeah, because a male caress
55:13
there 2727. Rory Leonard is the the road
55:17
record holder of 2738 so I reckon a male is going to have a
55:23
massive go at that because he paced, what was it, Valencia the
55:26
other week and so he looks 5th. Sam Clifford representing
55:30
Australia. Shit, that's an interesting one.
55:32
It's going a long way. Yes and his his time is that
55:35
road time the Australian national record 2734 which would
55:39
that was that Tokyo speed race that is he did.
55:43
That was short. Yeah, he.
55:46
He didn't race so well at Zathapec.
55:48
Few. He was at Zathapec a few weeks
55:50
ago I think wasn't he? So it'd be interesting to see if
55:53
he is in shape. Andy Butcher.
55:56
What's he call himself? Bionic Butchy 2736 PB be looking
56:01
to get somewhere back close to that Charles Wheeler as Dean
56:05
Habs shit. That's the first time we've seen
56:07
him since his 327 escapades earlier in the air over 1500
56:12
meters. Wonder what he'll do over 10K?
56:15
He's run 2744. That's crazy.
56:20
That is crazy. He's a pretty solid dude, isn't
56:23
he? Yeah, maybe 2.
56:25
Ah, no, we'll leave him. It's a new year in yours.
56:29
Yeah, he's a Dutch guy. He's super.
56:30
Front holder. Yeah.
56:33
Alfie Manthorpe after his Valencia half marathon finishing
56:38
in the first brick and he do the same here. 2814 PB might be
56:42
looking to break 28 minutes. You wouldn't be scared of
56:46
saying. Hugo Milner's in there he was.
56:49
He normally does Eurocross. Yeah, you know, he was
56:53
originally, he comes from a tribe background as well.
56:56
And then he used to, I remember. Yeah, he used to destroy the
56:59
cross country scenes and he. He's got Philippine Britain
57:04
might ask for an autograph like I don't.
57:06
I don't think he should be allowed in that leaf field.
57:08
Be brutally honest. He ran 2840 in freaking 2019.
57:12
Like that's way too long. Is there not like a cut off when
57:16
you can stop using that PB? There normally is for a lot of
57:20
races, but yeah, these these are dating back of farewell. 2019
57:25
seems the earliest. Not when you have an Inger
57:27
Britain surname though. That's what what's got him in.
57:31
Well, I mean he is a great runner too, but is there a
57:34
women's version of that? Yes.
57:36
The women's elite start list is also out.
57:40
Top seed an Ethiopian Lady Geb Gebzaher 2934 PB from Valencia
57:50
last year. Well the top three seeds are All
57:54
Ethiopian ladies 2930420940 3005 Irish Mccolgon ship.
58:00
She could be your your biggest competition.
58:03
Well, hopefully you won't see her current record holder 3019.
58:09
She'll be hard missed, probably. She runs.
58:11
She's a very unique running style, doesn't she?
58:14
Yeah, she, she always looks like she's working a lot harder than
58:16
she probably is. Yeah, but I let's just
58:19
sympathize with you because that's just tall person
58:22
problems. I think it's pretty a lot of
58:24
limbs to manoeuvre. She's surrounded by like them E
58:28
Africans. It's like Ethiopia, Ethiopia,
58:30
Ethiopia, Great Britain and Ireland, Ethiopia and then all
58:33
Kenya. Samantha Harrison, that's
58:36
someone who kind of like broke onto the scene, I feel like a
58:38
few years ago, like had a couple of big breakthroughs and then I
58:42
haven't really seen much of her since.
58:43
She's got PB 3051, so she's remarkably fast.
58:48
I'm not sure whether she's close to that shape, but the fact
58:51
she's on the start list would suggest so.
58:54
There's so many Kenyans and Ethiopians.
58:58
There's your woman, Alex Bell. Yeah.
59:00
Yeah, shit, full circle this podcast.
59:04
So she'd be looking to lower that 3131.
59:07
So what, 1523 the other day. I mean, perhaps she's doing that
59:14
on tired legs, so and she didn't tape her so yeah, she could be
59:17
in good shape. So 31 hopefully.
59:20
Then there's more. There's more Brits.
59:22
Izzy Fry, Abby Donnelly, Alice Goodall and Hannah Irwin.
59:28
Really does attract a lot of Great Britain, Northern Ireland,
59:34
Ireland pet folks over, doesn't it?
59:37
The thing with this is like there's actually not many fast
59:40
10K road races. I feel like Australia is spoiled
59:43
to all these fast 10 KS whereas over here there's actually not
59:46
that many. And just the way it lines up in
59:48
the season, it's such a good opportunity to get a standard
59:51
for let's say COM games or Europeans.
59:54
So that's why all them are trying to hit it.
59:57
Yeah, like those who Rd. racing scenes really target around 10K
1:00:00
and half marathon marathons, but.
1:00:03
They don't have 5K to five mile. There's not really anything.
1:00:07
So it's it's interesting the difference.
1:00:11
Catholic with anyone in Ireland do they?
1:00:13
Do you go to Telford or Trafford?
1:00:15
10K is no. Are they track or Rd.
1:00:19
A few people would go over, let's say it's a Telford one.
1:00:22
There was a little Irish group went over and like I was like 6
1:00:25
people and, but, and then before Christmas there was a fast 10K
1:00:31
and France. I know a couple of hours went
1:00:33
over to that. But it's just like knowing about
1:00:36
them. Like there's so many Rd. races.
1:00:38
It's like hard to actually find. Like I'm trying to look up like
1:00:41
fast 5 KS for the summer, like on the track and like you sort
1:00:44
of need to know what you're looking for to find it.
1:00:48
It's like, yeah, there's just too many and there's not one
1:00:51
website. There's like, oh, fast 10 KS
1:00:54
under, let's say 31 minutes. There's like or fast 5 KS under
1:00:58
15 minutes. There's like, yeah, you have to
1:01:00
really know or have like an in. Yeah, you have to really put
1:01:04
your market research in there to find the right race, right?
1:01:07
Next one on the list is Houston Half Marathon is also next
1:01:11
Sunday and they've recently released the elite fields for
1:01:13
this. So couple of cool names jump out
1:01:15
here. Galen ROP, Cam Levens in amongst
1:01:20
many others. Read Fisher, Rory Linklater, the
1:01:22
usual suspects. Peter Lynch representing Island
1:01:26
over there can go Suzuki for a Japanese representation.
1:01:31
And very interestingly, Hab Tom Samuel might sound random while
1:01:35
mentioning him because he represents Eritrea.
1:01:38
He won National Cross NCAA cross country this year for the first
1:01:44
time. He has PBS of 13 O 42651.
1:01:48
So based on the PBS of the guys listed in the start list, I
1:01:53
probably should have read them out.
1:01:55
The top seed has got APB of 59 O 9 Hab Tom's 10 KPB of 2651.
1:02:02
If he's anywhere near that shape and we know what he's just done
1:02:06
at the NCAA's, he could be a shout to win this race.
1:02:10
Does he break 60? If I'm yeah, I think he breaks
1:02:16
sixteen wins. If I'm, if I'm, if I'm picking
1:02:20
someone in that field, I'd pick him, right?
1:02:24
You'd have to say so, unless it's someone who comes from the
1:02:27
clouds. Like, there's no one here.
1:02:30
Like a largely domestic field really, isn't it?
1:02:33
Yeah, surely he just sits and then just burns them.
1:02:39
Like he's super fast, he's super strong, he's just like an all
1:02:42
rounder. Yeah, he's he'd be far.
1:02:45
He close better than them. He's ceiling should be better
1:02:48
than them. But he's never run the distance.
1:02:50
So it makes sense that he would get a seat at least early,
1:02:53
right? I mean, I text Raff yesterday
1:02:57
and saying have Tom's making his half marathon debut and he said
1:03:02
we'll be his bestest. Like he's he's got a phenomenal
1:03:04
threshold. So he is very open about about
1:03:08
this as well. So I think is he looking to
1:03:12
transition to represent the USA or is he going to be air train?
1:03:18
I don't know. I don't have a, a take on it.
1:03:20
I, I know that there was barriers when he because he's
1:03:23
qualified for Eritrea for previous championships, but not
1:03:26
being selected to participate. So I could understand if there
1:03:30
was a motivation to, to move. But I think he's only been in
1:03:34
the US since because he ran. He came from Eritrea in the Iran
1:03:38
Bathurst World Cross and then went over to college to New
1:03:42
Mexico. So he hasn't been in America.
1:03:45
I don't know what their eligibility, how it works around
1:03:48
citizenship, but he's been there for what, four or five years,
1:03:51
three years, four years? I mean, for context, the US
1:03:55
record is condom answers of 5915.
1:04:02
So yeah, just keep our eyes on those results.
1:04:05
May imagine, huh? They'd definitely be claiming
1:04:09
them. Like if he broke the record and
1:04:12
then switched allegiance to America, would that record be
1:04:16
American then? I'm pretty sure like didn't
1:04:18
Bernard Legat going off paste here but like I thought he used
1:04:23
to run for Kenya before he then started running for America in
1:04:26
his junior years but I don't think anything translates over.
1:04:30
Yeah, you wouldn't imagine so for the half buddy run, Yeah.
1:04:33
No, no way the the was it to the guy was seven time world half
1:04:41
marathon champion was he was in the breaking 2 project is it.
1:04:46
Tedesi. Yeah, yeah, he was the half
1:04:51
marathon goat for a long time. Presurf.
1:04:53
She's the 8:23. Yeah, he held the world record.
1:04:56
So I don't know. I don't think that goes.
1:04:59
Second is 5921. He could get go into second from
1:05:05
the women's point of view just to go over that quickly.
1:05:09
There is a couple of Ethiopians, as always, Gabriel Salima,
1:05:15
Kenyan cheer, cheer. Plenty of Americans.
1:05:19
No one's really jumping out at me, to be honest with you.
1:05:21
There's a breast, Lauren McNeil. Not sure who she is, to be fair.
1:05:26
So yeah, eyes on the men's field there.
1:05:28
I think I went got myself a new pair of shoes this week.
1:05:32
I so exciting. Reached out for the Vomero Plus.
1:05:38
Good show, eh? Yes, it's nice.
1:05:41
After wearing bastard 1080s it felt so good to put them on.
1:05:47
Man there, there's a lovely pop to them and the boys on inside
1:05:51
running, they give it you the year.
1:05:54
Yeah, that's what Bully tipped me over the edge.
1:05:56
So I was, I was already like wanting to go and buy a shoe
1:05:59
that day. And then I listened to it that
1:06:01
that morning, and I was like, oh, it's a sign.
1:06:04
Yeah, no, they know. Thinking too.
1:06:05
About running shoes anyway. And where'd you get?
1:06:07
It well, yeah, I knew that Nike had that they had 30% off like
1:06:12
as a Boxing Day sale. So it was $184, which is about
1:06:18
£95. Yeah, that's good man, huh?
1:06:23
So it's decent pickle. It's taken me all the willpower
1:06:26
in the world not to buy shoes because you see them for Cho so
1:06:30
cheap and I'm like, oh, I will eventually need this.
1:06:33
Yeah, financially it's not smartest choice.
1:06:37
They have a decent thing in store in that.
1:06:39
Nike here as well. It's like spend $500, you get a
1:06:42
$50.00 gift card. So that's like you.
1:06:45
Have to spend 500. Yeah, but it's like 2 pair of
1:06:49
shoes which over the course of say six months, you'll do it and
1:06:52
then randomly you go and you get a few pairs of socks or
1:06:57
something with your little gift card or $50 off, maybe a.
1:07:00
Hat Yeah, a nice singlet. Lastly, well cross countries
1:07:06
next week. I'm not going to do too much of
1:07:08
an in depth preview because I'm really done the prep for it.
1:07:12
I think France, Ethiopia and the USA may be the strongest
1:07:17
contenders there in terms of the team results for the medal on
1:07:22
the men's side. No, Kenya.
1:07:25
I don't know if they've taken a particularly strong team given
1:07:29
the Kenyan turmoil, but who knows, I could be eating my
1:07:32
words this time next week. They have to be running.
1:07:35
They have to be running now. Them good runners now.
1:07:37
A lot of them are locked up. Nah, I don't know.
1:07:41
Convertible just. Whenever they, yeah, whenever
1:07:44
they came to National Cross, they're all World Cross.
1:07:47
They're always very good, so I'd be surprised if they don't win.
1:07:52
That would be my tip. It makes it'll make a good recap
1:07:56
episode anyway, because then we have all the results out in
1:07:59
front of us. It's easy.
1:08:01
And Chabat in the women's side. Chabat is she's apparently she's
1:08:05
taking a year off like I've presumed to have a child.
1:08:09
Yeah, that seems to be the narrative.
1:08:12
So she's just cleaned up last year, taking 2 gold medals and
1:08:15
gone. You know what?
1:08:16
It's time to have a kid. Fair play.
1:08:19
Sensible decision and if we're going by the Australian women
1:08:23
and how they come back after having kids, Chabet will run
1:08:26
like 1330 in the 5K when she comes back.
1:08:30
That Mom strength. Yeah.
1:08:33
This is could be a whole nother topic on a whole new episode,
1:08:37
but we probably need some women for it.
1:08:38
But just to acknowledge, it's it's probably hard for women to
1:08:43
like when the professionals to plan their like careers and
1:08:47
their calendars whilst thinking about trying to have kids during
1:08:50
that period. I was going to comment on the
1:08:52
exact same thing, like the complications of being able to
1:08:57
be ready to give birth to children and then the actual
1:09:00
birthing process and then postpartum like incredibly hard
1:09:04
on the body and on the person. And so like it's so much harder
1:09:08
than a, than what men have to deal with.
1:09:12
And I thought didn't, was it World Athletics or the IOC
1:09:16
really create some sort of fund where women who successfully
1:09:21
return or have picked previously competed in Olympic Games,
1:09:24
looking to return, get some sort of funding.
1:09:26
So sounds like there's some sort of financial aid and some sort
1:09:29
of acknowledgement of that, which is good.
1:09:32
I think that might be an Aussie only incentive, you know, fair
1:09:35
play to the Aussies. Would.
1:09:37
Like sponsors drop them, the sponsor couldn't drop them
1:09:41
because when you think about they're going to be out for like
1:09:43
the guts of I'll just say six months more.
1:09:47
More. Like sort of half year, yeah.
1:09:51
Like what sponsors ever drop? Like it would be totally unfair.
1:09:56
It's probably natural that it's kind of written into women's
1:09:59
contracts because I guess it's been going on forever, so they
1:10:03
know how it kind of works. Dean has some shit shirt on.
1:10:09
Looks like he's going off. He's off to watch some T20
1:10:12
Scorchers. I am a scorcher at the
1:10:17
Scorchers. Any chance of what?
1:10:21
What's like the trophy called the BBLB?
1:10:25
BL Title. Any chance of Scorchers
1:10:27
finishing top of the ladder? They have a pretty rich history.
1:10:30
They pardon the palm, but they bet above there they're average.
1:10:35
They're, you know, they they do pretty well.
1:10:37
So yes. What's the is it Mitch Stark?
1:10:42
Is he the the main guy? Mitch Marsh.
1:10:45
Mitch Marsh. Mitch Marsh Yeah, I was watching
1:10:48
the other night. He whacked 100 or something
1:10:51
pretty convincingly. Yeah, I still want to get around
1:10:55
good all rounder. Sure what you want in Big Bash.
1:10:59
Do you know it's been massive over here?
1:11:00
Well, what I've gotten into this Christmas, New Year's, the
1:11:04
darts. Oh yeah, Luke.
1:11:07
I hate him. Boys, it's savage, the skill
1:11:11
like we bought. We've a dartboard out in the
1:11:13
garage I'm bought a set of darts for and Oh my God it's so hard.
1:11:18
How's Luke Littler? Isn't he abusing?
1:11:20
Didn't he say something about like because they're all Jing
1:11:22
him and he's saying you pay for my, you pay my wage?
1:11:26
You buzz boys, the mental like will pair you have to have in
1:11:30
your mind like the crowd are just absolutely whacked and
1:11:33
they're just like when you have an important shot, they're like.
1:11:36
Oh. I do my head in.
1:11:39
They're just, they want you to fail, but then they love when
1:11:42
you hit a good shot. It's like just people dressed up
1:11:45
in costumes, like in the bollocks behind you.
1:11:47
I don't know how they do it. Look at the contrast between
1:11:51
that and golf. Like when people playing, taking
1:11:54
a golf shot, it's like has to be silence.
1:11:57
But again, live golf change that.
1:11:58
Your man Littler got £1,000,000 or €1,000,000, I don't know for
1:12:02
winning that last night. You know, you know how we give
1:12:06
Kenyans a bit of a grilling when it comes to age, potential age
1:12:11
falsifications? That Luke Littler, how's he He
1:12:14
looks 40. He looks older than me.
1:12:16
He's 18, yeah. Get out of that.
1:12:19
He's used to being burst in a bar.
1:12:23
Smashes Donna Kebabs in. But he is so good at hitting
1:12:27
them darts. Oh my God, it's crazy.
1:12:30
Yeah. Like your man, they're averaging
1:12:32
over 100 each set. And like your man was playing
1:12:36
good, but later just wasn't giving him a chance.
1:12:38
It was so good. He loves United though, and it
1:12:42
rattles me. Yeah, and you're on angry
1:12:45
gingers there as well. The FIFA streamer, That was a
1:12:48
quiz question the other day in the Good Weekend quiz.
1:12:52
Yeah. Who is angry Ginge?
1:12:54
I'm a slab as well. Angry Ginges and YouTube Diaries
1:12:59
contender, isn't it? Could.
1:13:02
Be. Shit, we haven't done a double
1:13:04
trouble. This could be two weeks on the
1:13:06
bounce, New year, new US. But the listeners love it now.
1:13:08
And have you got anything for us?
1:13:11
Oh my God, you put me on the spot here.
1:13:14
Well, I said prize money for the major categories.
1:13:18
Yeah, true. I don't know if that one
1:13:20
listeners let us know because you could be there could be some
1:13:23
of the the age group contenders amongst listeners who may
1:13:26
strongly disagree with that, however.
1:13:29
No. OK, let me just rephrase.
1:13:31
I'm not against it. It's just I feel like if you win
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the total outright race, you maybe should just get like maybe
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a sandwich or something as well. I don't know.
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Yeah, shouldn't be equal to the the 1st place prize.
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I don't think that's a double trouble.
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Surely that's just like standard.
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Common sense, yeah, Yeah. Would you want to go out to
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triathletes again, Ryan? You've already done me dirty
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enough with that. I love the triathlete community.
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I'm almost part of it. Give given they're almost the JB
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National record holder for the marathon, you probably can't go
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too hard anymore, can you? Yeah, even he.
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Trained like a runner. This This is Owen's angle.
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He trained like a runner, right? For six months.
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Yeah, for a year. He don't blend it to start a
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year. Versus blokes that have trained
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their whole lives and he's done it for six months and he paid
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them all balmo. And doesn't my have a question
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mark asterisk? Yeah, he's done so well to
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protect that because I feel like that question mark doesn't
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extend out into the, like, general community, only like
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serious track and fail fans are aware of this question mark.
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What's the Sermi? Exactly.
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To everyone else's Sermo. Right then.
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That'll be yours, boys. We'll speak this time again next
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week. I wouldn't go well.
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Good luck, have fun. Thank you very much lads, enjoy.
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Letter it look. None.
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The.