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I Am All In…Again: One of the Most Cringe Worthy Scenes of Gilmore Girls (Season 4 E10 “The Nanny and the Professor”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, Model
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  Speaker 1: and Productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Productions. Recap episode Season four,
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  Speaker 1: Episode ten, The Nanny and the Professor. Wow Wow Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Air date November eighteen, two thousand and three. Very special
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  Speaker 1: guest here with me, Suzanne French, you know or your lover, Suzanne.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. I know you're busy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: building your own career on the other side of the
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  Speaker 1: scaffolding as the structures continue to rise in the Suzanne
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  Speaker 1: French Empire. Yeah, very very taxing the collective, and you're
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  Speaker 1: so busy, and we're just so pleased for your success
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  Speaker 1: and we're thrilled that you could join us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having
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  Speaker 3: me along for the ride.
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  Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Synopsis Luke hires Lane to help out
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  Speaker 1: as a diner. But that really wasn't explored that much,
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  Speaker 1: was it. It was just like a little scene. Rory
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  Speaker 1: isn't happy Paris is dating her new teacher. Can we
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  Speaker 1: just call that gross? Thank you? Laurel. I and Jason
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  Speaker 1: decided to keep their relationship from her parents at least
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  Speaker 1: for now, and Michelle, out of jealousy, babysits Davy. Director
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  Speaker 1: Peter Lower, writer Scott Kaffer, these are names we haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen before, Lower and confer. Yeah, all right. So Rory
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  Speaker 1: knows about ash Or Fleming and continues to be awkward
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  Speaker 1: when talking about it with Lorella and even Paris. When
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  Speaker 1: she sees Asher drop her off early at Yale, one
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  Speaker 1: of the most cringe worthy scenes I think I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen on television, and you know, I ain't shy. The
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  Speaker 1: movies are making newspaper hats at the Yale Daily newsroom.
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  Speaker 1: For their initiation, Paris asks Worry about reading her article
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  Speaker 1: on Asher Fleming. Rory's again awkward. Can we just say skived?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good word for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she's skied, yeah yeah, And then she gets called
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  Speaker 1: sneaks out of the newsroom Paris does. Rory ends up
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  Speaker 1: covering for her with Doyle, who is enraged that he
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  Speaker 1: got rejected by the Time magazine. Later that night, Paris
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  Speaker 1: comes home super late, makes it obvious, tries to wake
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  Speaker 1: up Rory does wants to tell her where she was where.
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  Speaker 1: He gets upset, so she doesn't want to know about anything,
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  Speaker 1: taking a new class and Asher course. All right, Suzanne,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into this. H Why do you think Paris
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  Speaker 1: wants to brag and spill the beans about her affair
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  Speaker 1: with Asher?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think Paris I think she feels like,
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  Speaker 3: almost in a bragging way, like she doesn't she's not
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  Speaker 3: dating college boys anymore. She has moved up into the
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  Speaker 3: realm of, you know, dating adults. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I Grandfather's not just adults. Grandfather's good point skip the adults.
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  Speaker 1: And she went right here.
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  Speaker 3: You know that that scene where Rory was telling Laurli
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  Speaker 3: about it and she's like, he's friends with Grandpa seem
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  Speaker 3: it's hilarious and the whole thing is kind of squiky,
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  Speaker 3: but it led to some hilarious comedy in the episode.
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  Speaker 1: I think absolutely it is one of the funniest inserts
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  Speaker 1: in the entire seven seasons. Yeah, and Michael Yorke played
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  Speaker 1: it beautifully, just absolutely beautifully. Do you think this relationship
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  Speaker 1: is out of character for Paris?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I kind of see it as part
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  Speaker 3: of Paris's progression. Like I said, she's just you know,
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  Speaker 3: moving on onward and upward in her mind right, And
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, while the rest of us are like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: is that really such a good idea, I think Paris
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  Speaker 3: like she thinks she's hit the big time now. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that it's that out of character, although
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  Speaker 3: it is a little nicky.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Look, you think she's in love,
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  Speaker 1: you think it's real. Do you think it's possible for
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  Speaker 1: a twenty year old or a nineteen year old? Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's eighteen or nine teen at this point, they're freshmen, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's their second semester.
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  Speaker 1: They're eighteen years old, nineteen years old years old.
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  Speaker 3: I mean when you're at that age, you think you're
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  Speaker 3: in love.
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  Speaker 1: Forty two year age difference, yeah, or forty two year
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  Speaker 1: age difference.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's a lot. But you know, when you're when
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  Speaker 3: you're a teenager, you always think like you're the exception
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  Speaker 3: and you know this is real, And it's just that
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  Speaker 3: that kind of teenage brain that you don't you're not
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  Speaker 3: interested in what anyone else has to say. So I
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  Speaker 3: think even though Paris is, you know, mature, she's still
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  Speaker 3: she's still a teenager. So I don't think I think
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  Speaker 3: she thinks she may be in love, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: think she it's not going to last.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we know it's not going to last, because
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't last. He expires. You know, listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: This situation is tragic, it's cringeworthy. It results in a death,
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  Speaker 1: and we're laughing our tails off. I mean, that's how
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  Speaker 1: funny it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. That says a lot about the writing.
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  Speaker 1: It's bizarro. This is bizarro world. Yes, all right, Now
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  Speaker 1: we get to Michelle and the dragonfly in stuff. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Michelle and Laura I go to Suki's to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the end. Tobin is there. We get an update. He
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  Speaker 1: moved out to you tall. Tobin did became a Mormon,
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  Speaker 1: but it didn't work out. Now he's the baby's nanny.
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  Speaker 1: Michelle calls Laurel I uh, and he is freaking out.
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  Speaker 1: He offers a babysit baby Davy, and he rolls the
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  Speaker 1: baby under the bed. Effort falls off the bed. Laurel
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  Speaker 1: I helps him to retrieve the sleeping baby underneath the bed.
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  Speaker 1: Michelle finally reveals he hates Tobin, and I think we
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  Speaker 1: already knew that because he thinks he wants to replace
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  Speaker 1: him or Laurela. I may replace Michelle with Tobin, so
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  Speaker 1: laurrel I reassures him they aren't going to replace him.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just say this about Michelle in this episode, he
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  Speaker 1: sure gets the vapors really as he doesn't he Yes,
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  Speaker 1: was it hilarious to you seeing him trying to babysit
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  Speaker 1: after expressing absolute dislike of children and sort of screaming
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  Speaker 1: at the top of his life not at the top
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  Speaker 1: of his lungs, but I mean waking up a little
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  Speaker 1: davy to the point in the prior episode that you
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  Speaker 1: know because of his yelling yes about the situation. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he finally admits his feelings about being replaced, and this
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  Speaker 1: is fueling it. But talk about not being able to regulate.
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  Speaker 3: Yourself, I completely agree.
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  Speaker 1: In the presence of a child who's asleep, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about this guy is reaction?
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  Speaker 3: So so I will say I had actually completely forgotten
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  Speaker 3: about the scene with the beat be under the bed,
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  Speaker 3: and so when it came up, I was pleasantly surprised
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  Speaker 3: because I think that scene is completely hilarious. Him and
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  Speaker 3: Laurlai trying to get the baby out from under the
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  Speaker 3: bed is so funny. But I have a bone to
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  Speaker 3: pick with the storyline itself, because we've only seen Tobin
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  Speaker 3: in one other episode and they bring him back in
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  Speaker 3: for one scene and it has nothing to do even
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  Speaker 3: with the end. It's about him being the nanny, and
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  Speaker 3: Michelle automatically jumps to, oh, they're trying to replace me
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  Speaker 3: with him. I didn't buy it, and I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they never Tobin was in that one episode right after
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  Speaker 3: the Dragonfly burned down, and then we never saw in
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  Speaker 3: him again. And I looked at the air dates. It's
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  Speaker 3: been like seven months in real time since that first
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  Speaker 3: episode aired, and now they bring him back and somehow
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  Speaker 3: he's Michelle is like you said, he's got the vapors.
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  Speaker 3: He's all worked up about him, but he's not even
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  Speaker 3: an issue. And so I didn't quite buy that whole
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  Speaker 3: storyline and your point about you know, we know he
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  Speaker 3: hates kids, so why would he offer to babysit out
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  Speaker 3: of jealousy when it's not even related to running the
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  Speaker 3: in or reopening the new inn, or you know, anything
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  Speaker 3: along those lines. So I completely agree with you. I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was a little weird that one scene was
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  Speaker 3: so funny though, with baby Crepe, you know, the and
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  Speaker 3: the kid rolling under the bed was hilarious, but I
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. It just kind of seemed like it came
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  Speaker 3: out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't find it particularly funny when
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  Speaker 1: when babies roll off of beds and then roll under
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  Speaker 1: beds and then you can't get it. That to me,
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  Speaker 1: that is not I don't like babies in comedy. When
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  Speaker 1: when babies are danger it doesn't. It tenses me up.
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  Speaker 1: It's just as a father, it's just it's like, mine
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  Speaker 1: is this unregulated, yelly guy taking care of a baby.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who's thought that was a good idea?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't have let him take care of my
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  Speaker 3: kid in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't let that guy take care of my dog
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  Speaker 1: or my cat or my mouse. Yeah you know he's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: right short feuse the hold down anyway anyway, go ahead? Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: So no, I was.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna tell a funny, real life story that actually happened.
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  Speaker 3: So when my kids were little, we were in a hotel.
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  Speaker 3: I think I can't remember where we were. We may
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  Speaker 3: have been at Lego Land. And my youngest Brandon, who
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  Speaker 3: you know, he was a toddler, well he was probably
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  Speaker 3: maybe he was probably about two, and we were in
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  Speaker 3: this hotel room and my husband and I were in
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  Speaker 3: the bedroom and then the kids were sleeping on There
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  Speaker 3: was a couch, like a fold out bed that was
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  Speaker 3: the couch and we had the two kids on that
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  Speaker 3: and in the middle of the night, we hear crying,
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  Speaker 3: but very faintly, and so we go out in the
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  Speaker 3: living room and Brandon's not in the bed, and so
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  Speaker 3: we're like, where did Brandon go? Like we could hear
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  Speaker 3: this faint crying. Well, he had like rolled out of
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  Speaker 3: the bed and we had like the couch cushions kind
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  Speaker 3: of piled up on the side, so he rolled over
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  Speaker 3: and then he bumped into the couch cushion and it
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  Speaker 3: like rolled him under the bed. Oh wow, we hear
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  Speaker 3: this faint crying and we're looking for Brandon and he
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  Speaker 3: was under the sofa bed and it was hilarious. So
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  Speaker 3: I get your point that you know, it's it is
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  Speaker 3: kind of tension inducing as a parent, But having been
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  Speaker 3: in that situation where my kid accidentally rolled under the bed,
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  Speaker 3: he was fine.
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  Speaker 1: I would have preferred to see that now now if
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  Speaker 1: it was if it happened to Suki, if there was
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  Speaker 1: a scene of Suki doing it. Yeah, for some reason
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  Speaker 1: the little davy rolled under the bed. Then I think
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  Speaker 1: she could have made it funny. I don't know. For me,
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  Speaker 1: it was just like I want to get out of
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  Speaker 1: the scene.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it did. Yeah, it definitely was weird and
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  Speaker 3: out of place. And again like, why would you pick
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  Speaker 3: Michelle to the babysit your kid? It just doesn't It
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  Speaker 3: didn't follow for me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Laurel and Jason, Oh Jesus, is this more
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  Speaker 1: rolling under the bed awkwardness?
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  Speaker 3: It is? It is awkward.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of this overall? What do you
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  Speaker 1: think of this coupling overall? How does it make you feel?
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  Speaker 5: So?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I have probably a minority opinion on this. I
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  Speaker 3: I didn't mind Jason. A lot of people can't stand Jason.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was fine. He's definitely not lorelized endgame,
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  Speaker 3: and he clearly is just an obstacle to them getting
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  Speaker 3: Lorali and Luke together. But I thought he was funny.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he and Lorli had that good banter. He
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  Speaker 3: was intelligent, he was you know, successful, and I thought
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  Speaker 3: the two of them were cute together on a short
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  Speaker 3: term basis, right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, And he's got some quirks, Yeah, would you
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  Speaker 1: mind sleeping in the other room.
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  Speaker 3: I did think that was a little weird, although I
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  Speaker 3: probably would have been like Loralai and once I actually
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  Speaker 3: saw the room, and I'm like, Okay, that's not so bad,
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  Speaker 3: but it is a little It is a little weird
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  Speaker 3: to like have sex with somebody and then be like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: can you go to the other room? Now, that's that's weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but at least he's being honest about it.
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  Speaker 1: I liked how he just sort of like was an
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  Speaker 1: abashedly open about it and yeah, a little bit vulnerable
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  Speaker 1: about it. And I think that's why she stayed like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well he's being real. He's being real with me. He's
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  Speaker 1: not you know, right, Yeah, he's not trying to kick
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  Speaker 1: me out. He you know, he wants me. He wants
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  Speaker 1: to see me in the morning, and right exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good night for him for her, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they both seem to be feeling pretty good. It's like
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  Speaker 1: she got to check into a nice hotel and they
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  Speaker 1: all by herself.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, that's funny, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So Larela and Roy are over for Friday night dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Emily and Richard offer them a snack of Marsipan. When
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  Speaker 1: Jason drops by to bring Richard some business papers. As
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  Speaker 1: he leaves, Laurla calls him and they make plans for
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  Speaker 1: a date. Have you ever had Marzapan? Yeah? I like,
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  Speaker 1: what does it taste? Like? Why are they why were
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  Speaker 1: they spinning it out?
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  Speaker 3: It's almond paste, so it's like made out of almonds,
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  Speaker 3: and it's good.
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  Speaker 1: So wrong almond pace.
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  Speaker 3: It's really good in chocolate though, like they make it
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  Speaker 3: into little animals and fruit shapes and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: But I like it dipped in chocolate. I'm telling you
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  Speaker 3: it's good. I'm going to make you try it.
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  Speaker 1: You will tell you what. I'll try it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like it, I'll eat it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what we'll do. We'll maybe do a special
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  Speaker 1: episode of Special Mars or we can do it at
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  Speaker 1: Holidays made here. Oh yeah, I can do it live
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  Speaker 1: in front of six thousand people. Yeah, it could be
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  Speaker 1: the first time I've tried Marzapan live on camera. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: sell tickets to that one. Yes, try to keep people
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  Speaker 1: away anyway. Jason, Laurel I come back to Jason's apartment
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  Speaker 1: after their movie date and we just discussed this they
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  Speaker 1: they get it on, and then and and they meet
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  Speaker 1: the dog, they meet Cyrus. I can only make him
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  Speaker 1: lean to the left, not quite to the right yet.
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  Speaker 3: He sits in though. You know, it was like this
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  Speaker 3: kind of great, like bland looking apartment and then there's
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  Speaker 3: just this motionless dog.
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  Speaker 1: It just kind of all right, right, that was the
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  Speaker 1: strangest apartment. The kitchens in the living room, yes, and
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  Speaker 1: then the stairs are very steep going upstairs. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a very strange place. I will say one thing for Jason, though,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's he's definitely confident, and there's something to
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  Speaker 1: be said for a guy who knows what he wants,
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  Speaker 1: plans out everything and then you know, creates the vibe
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  Speaker 1: and goes for it. Yeah, you know that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like textbook dating. Yes, in the real way.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. And he wanted he wanted to He wasn't
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  Speaker 3: just it wasn't like just a one night stand for him,
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  Speaker 3: Like he wanted to make their relationship known like he
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  Speaker 3: was in it. So I appreciated that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, So we got through that
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  Speaker 1: and at this point, what do you think, what do
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  Speaker 1: you give the chances for this relationship sort of blossoming Suzanne.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's the Richard and Emily factor. So
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  Speaker 3: if those two hadn't been in the picture, I think
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  Speaker 3: it would have had more of a chance. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: because he's in business with Richard, you know it's gonna
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  Speaker 3: blow up at some point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean the relationship, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: of the relationship.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was cute. I think they had potential.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know, like I said, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was it was always just going to be a short
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  Speaker 3: term thing. I don't think that Laurel I would have
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  Speaker 3: been wanted to be with him long term, right, But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was good for
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  Speaker 3: the moment.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So the next Friday night dinner, Historical Society is touring
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  Speaker 1: the house. Richard is peeved. He hates it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's people walking through his house while they're having dinner.
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  Speaker 1: There was like a there was a velvet rope. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was weird. That was weird.
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  Speaker 3: They could have shut the door, and they could.
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  Speaker 1: Have shut the door.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's revealed that the whole point of scene
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  Speaker 1: was that Jason went to a fundraiser. He brought a
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  Speaker 1: date who didn't wear underwear according to Emily, and Loralai
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  Speaker 1: gets a little jealous.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how Emily would have known that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she heard there was scuttle butt.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, maybe that was.
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  Speaker 1: You know, in that little closed circle that is the
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  Speaker 1: Hertford elite. Right, word got out real fast. So Jason
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  Speaker 1: comes over to see Laura at work and she confronts
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  Speaker 1: him about the date. Her name is Crystal, she was
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  Speaker 1: not wearing underwear the fundraiser was with her parents, And
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  Speaker 1: then Jason admits how he feels about laurrela. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who is Crystal? It was Crystal was the daughter of
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  Speaker 1: the people that were putting on the fundraiser. So he
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  Speaker 1: agreed to sit with her or take her to this thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was somebody he already knew, because, like
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  Speaker 3: he said, he you have to bring a date to
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  Speaker 3: these things. You can't have an empty chair. So he
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  Speaker 3: just asked. He probably has a bunch of like women
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  Speaker 3: that he is friends with that he asks them to
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  Speaker 3: go to these fundraiser things. So I kind of was
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: on his side on that. Like Laurel, I can't have
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: it both ways. If she doesn't want to tell their parents,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: then she has to put up with him bringing other
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: women to these functions.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but at this point in the relationship, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that's a big red flag. I mean, if she if
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: she's buying that stuff, then I got some swamp land
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: for her in Florida, then I want to sell her.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Well, but she it was her idea.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, whose idea?
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: It was Laurelai's idea to not tell her parents. So
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: he was trying to on her that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: So he takes a stripper to the fundraiser.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't know that she was a stripper.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Nothing was ever said about her being a stripper, So
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I think it was just like some friend that he had,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: and he just took her, Like he said, he wanted
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: to take laurel I, but laurel I didn't want anybody
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: to know about them. So all right, well I was
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: They get through it, Yeah, and she's happy again.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Why do you think laureaes dating Jason even though she
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: knows it will make her parents feel a certain way?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Or is there her risk? Part of the fund this,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: this is just what she wants to put them through.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: You think there's an element of that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I think that I think that's definitely how it started out, right,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: because in the last episode she only calls him because
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: she's pissed at her mother after Emily blew up at
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: her over the penal a lot thing. So it definitely
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: starts out as like a revenge thing, like it would
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: really piss my parents off, went out with you, so
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: let's go out. But then I think that, you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: she does kind of develop feelings for him, and I
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: think at some point she just she's not She has
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: already established that she doesn't do things that her parents
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: want her to do, but she will do things that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: her parents don't want her to do. So I think
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: it to the question is the risk part of the fun?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I think yes, But I think also she is developing
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: feelings for him.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: All right, Jason, Let's let's talk about Jason a little bit.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: He's not terribly likable, is he? And he's and he's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: written and he's written not to be likable. What do
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you think laurel Ize sees in him? What is she
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: seeing this guy? You know?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I think part of it, well, like I said, it
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: starts out that she's trying to just piss off her mother,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: so that's what she sees in him. To begin with
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: he's an opportunity to make her mom mad. But I
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: think that she I think she does. You know, she's
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: kind of thinking in the moment. She's not thinking long term,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and she sees you know, he's a nice guy and
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: we have fun together, and you know he's kind of
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: into her shenanigans. I mean, there's kind of a parallel
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: there with Christopher because Christopher was a troublemaker and you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: they would go out when they were teenagers. They would
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: go do these risky things together, and so you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: there's there's probably it's probably calling back to some element
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of that in her mind. But I think she's just
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: she's not looking for a huge commitment. She's just seeing
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: a good time at that point.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: All Right, you know, I want to talk a little
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: bit about the direction the show is heading in post
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Rory entering yale h. Do we feel that this is
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a completely different show? Is this a show that's recognizable now?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Do you still enjoy it as much? Or are the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is the new scenery jarring? Is there enough stars Hollow?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Is it too much Asher Fleming? Is it too much
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Jason Styles? Is it too much? Industrial spaces? And it
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: is it? Is it now not as Gilmoury as it
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: needs to be, you know, you know what I'm.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Asking, Yes, And I will say that my favorite seasons
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: are the Chiltern years. I think they're definitely I've said
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: it many times, probably on the Recap podcast as well
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: as in Town Meeting. I love the town episodes. I
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: love the people in the town. I love of the
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: buildings and the setting, Like the town is a character
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: to me, and so I like the stars Hollow episodes,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the Chiltn episodes. Definitely. Rory's personality starts to change when
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: she starts at Yale, and you can see it kind
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: of evolving over this season, like the whole the whole
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: thing with her study train. Just that sense of entitlement
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: that like this guy has to let me sit there
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: just because I want to. That's like a perfect symbol
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: of that. I do miss I mean so I do
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: miss the town part of it when she goes to Yale.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, it is kind of realistic,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: because you know, when kids go to college, they do change,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: and they do their world's open up and they're seeing
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: more than just their little hometown. So like I remember
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: when I was that freshman in college, I remember, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you know, my oldest was a freshman in college, which
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: was just a few years ago. It just happens, And
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: so it is realistic that kind of the universe opens
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: up to encompass more than just stars hollow. But I
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: will say those are my favorite episodes are.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I find Myself craving Taylor and miss and and and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: bet Bett and Maury and Kirk. Yeah where are they?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And I guess that's how we're supposed to feel because
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: when we see them again, it's going to be a celebration, right, Yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, come on now.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And and I will say, like, so this is
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: episode ten I the last half of season four. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: really love when we start getting to that point where
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Luke and Laurela I are kind of circling around each
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: other and it's you know, you can see like something's
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: going to happen. I do love those those episodes. So
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: when we get we have a few more episodes in
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: and get closer to the end of season four, it
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: does like get a little bit better for me.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, the writers are toying with us. Yes, It's
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like it's like having a push pull relationship with a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: with an avoidant personality. You know, it's like, come on,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: give me, come back, come back, and then they're gonna
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: then they're gonna give us a what do they call
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a bread crumb? Yeah, and we're gonna be so happy.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Suzanne, always a pleasure, Yes, thank you and uh
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: a round of applause for Susanne French.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And we're going to see you on holidays made here right,
• 26:39
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• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well you won't be rid of me.
• 26:42
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• 26:47
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• 26:57
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