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Something's NOT ADDING UP About This Helicopter Crash… · Man in America Podcast

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Seth Holehouse: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. Whenever there is a big event in society that captures all the news headlines and has everyone talking, I'm oftentimes going back to my very basic way of looking at things, which is question everything. So when I see the news headlines or a certain way, I'm asking myself, what do they want me to know? What do they not want me to know?
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Is there a different story they're distracting from? Is there a particular narrative we're pushing? What is what is the timing of this particular event? And so last night, there was a very significant event that happened near Washington DC. A passenger airline, a American Airlines passenger plane, was hit midair by a military Blackhawk helicopter.
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And so I'll go ahead and pull up some information of just what we know right now because there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of questions I have about this. So let's first look at what are the basic facts. So it was American Eagle flight five three four two from Wichita, Kansas carrying 60 passengers and four crew members that collided mill midair with an army helicopter right near the Reagan Washington National Airport last night. So president Donald Trump has confirmed today there are no survivors in the collision.
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The two aircraft crashed into the Potomac River where a rescue operation has become a major recovery effort with dozens of bodies being pulled from the fridges frigid waters so far. The Washington mayor, Muriel brow Bowser, said that the black cop had three people in it. So the plane had figure skaters, coaches, family members, who were at a camp in Wichita. There were Russian state media has confirmed that a Russian figure, skaters were also on board, and coaches were on board. We don't have the full detail of who was on the plane, and we have no details of of who was supposedly on the Blackhawk helicopter.
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Now looking at the location of where this happened, you can see the map, kinda center bottom is the exact collision spot just as this plane was coming in to land at the Reagan Airport, a right over the river, the, Potomac River, a helicopter hit it. So we have a video here that just shows, the collision happening midair. So it's about twenty seconds, but you can see I know it's hard to see, and I'll zoom in the next time around. You can see the helicopter coming straight towards the plane and hitting it right there. So let me zoom in a little further for you, and I'll play that again.
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So on the screen, to the left, you can see this little dot, and that big center, white light in the middle is the, airline. And so you can see the little dot heading towards basically, towards the airplane, and they hit right there. And, again, according to president Trump this morning, no survivors at all. Now these things do happen. There are accidents that that you know, it's not uncommon that, you know, you occasionally have these accidents, whether it's human error, whether it says Trump talked about all these DEI hiring policies where the FCC is looking to or sorry.
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Sorry, that they're basically the you know, they're they're looking to hire people with disabilities and, you know, all kinds of different things like that. Now there's a lot of things, though, that don't add up to this, and I'm not drawing any specific conclusions. I don't know whether this was purely an accident or something more nefarious, but I'm certainly asking a lot of questions because there are a lot of pieces to this story that really make me scratch my head and say that doesn't really make sense. So one of the first things I'll pull up right here, this is a video. This was shared by Rob Du over on Twitter.
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This is a video that was leaked to somebody. It was a bigger account that put this out on Twitter. That was a a video of the air traffic control monitor. So you'll see on here that CA stands for collision alarm. That on this monitor, you can see these two, vehicles, these the airplane, obviously, and the helicopter.
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I'll I'll play it for you because there's no use in having the audio on there, but you can see as these there's a little audio. I'll turn that off for you. But as they come close to each other, you'll see it says collision alert. It's flashing CACA. Now Rob says, the alarms are on the screen for twenty five seconds before the impact.
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Someone was asleep at their air traffic control station. But if you listen to the audio, you can hear those voices. So, obviously, someone you'll hear snoring, but you can see that it's very obvious that these two, the plane and the helicopter, are headed straight for each other until right there is the impact. Now, thankfully, we live in a world where we have Twitter, and we've got experts all over the place that are weighing in and giving us more information on this. And so I wanna bring attention to, this gentleman here, colonel, Towner walk Watkins.
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So colonel Watkins is a retired US Air Force, colonel. He says he's exposing operation Gladio and the international syndicate to the world, which, you know, me too. Thank you. Anyways, this is this guy is a retired Air Force colonel. And so he has a long post on here that I'm gonna read to you that walks through some of the information that I think is very suspicious about this.
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So he goes, here are the facts as we know them. Army Blackhawk from Davidson Field hits commuter air American Airline at DC Reagan National Airport. No survivors. The Black Hawk can be remotely controlled, and there may or may not have been three people on board. As I mentioned, the mayor of DC has come forth and said there are three people on board the Blackhawk.
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But as he's saying, I tend I agree with him is that they may or may not have been on board. Now when he says that the Blackhawk can be remotely controlled, this was new information for me. It doesn't surprise me. Yet here, I will show you on Lockheed Martin's own website. This is an article that just came out late last year, and it says command an autonomous Blackhawk helicopter from 300 miles away.
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Now it says, how do you command a Black Hawk helicopter perform a mission autonomously from 300 miles away? Quite simply, by using a tablet connected to the aircraft via data link. It says during the association of the US Army's annual meeting in Washington DC, visitors and US Army senior, leaders saw how a Blackhawk helicopter integrated with, Sikorsky's Matrix Autonomy system, can receive remote mission commands in real time, then carry out that mission on its own using its onboard autonomous systems without remote control or pilot inputs. It says the Matrix system is unique because it's not a simple flight director following a planned route. Instead, the system acts fully independently reacting to the dynamic combat environment to avoid threats, optimize routing, and execute emergency procedures if necessary.
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And they've got a video here, you know, showing this, but it's not really that important because it can be done. So this isn't some conspiracy theory that you can remote control a Blackhawk helicopter, which makes me think, okay. Was this remote controlled? Right? Anything that can be remote controlled, now, again, I'm not some tech wizard, but I would imagine you could also hack those controls.
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That's just how things work. You know, people can act can hack your car so they can use the they can hack the wireless signal you send to unlock your car, and they can then steal your car. You know? They can someone can hack your TV remote. They can access your TV from a different way, and they can control your channels without you knowing.
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Even if they have the same remote in a different location, they can point towards your TV if they're close enough. And so the point being is that if something can be remotely controlled, though I'm assuming there's a lot of technology and safeguards to prevent these helicopters from being hacked and controlled by somebody else, it's certainly a question that I have is, was this helicopter being remotely controlled, and if so, by who? Was it some sort of terrorist attack? Was it our own our own agencies? And it just so happens that right now, we have the confirmation hearings going on.
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Today, we had Kash Patel, which is a significant threat to the existing deep state apparatus that controls a lot of our agencies and controls, really, a lot of our federal government and our state governments for that matter as well. So it's a reasonable question to ask, was this remotely controlled by somebody? Now it also could have been someone that had a mission to accomplish this accident, this, you know, destruction of of a passenger airline on purpose. And, yeah, of course, there's kamikazes, and people do this on purpose as well. So I'm not saying that, it was only nefarious if it was remote control, because it could've could've been a single or two or three bad actors in there as well that were carrying on a mission.
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Like, that's that's not new. It's happened all throughout history. So go back to colonel, Towner Watkins. So so he says, the Black Hawk can be remotely controlled, and there may or may not have been three people on board. The black the Black Hawk has a 80 degree visibility sitting at the controls, but somehow doesn't see a relatively larger airliner with lights in a very well lit area even at night, while the tower does not warn Black Hawk to stay out of the flight path path where he shouldn't be, but only asks if he sees a commuter airline.
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Now he he gives, colonel Wilkins gives some sorry. Colonel Wilkins gives some very good background here as well from his experience. He said, the Black Hawk was reportedly from the army's VIP fleet, which means the best of the best trained pilots assigned in very well maintained aircraft. He says, I spent six months flying with an army Black Hawk crew. They are warrant officers that only fly helicopters.
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They don't do staff tours or other things. They fly. They are the best of the best. He says my pilot saw a tripwire across the Euphrates River at 90 miles an hour and maneuvered to avoid us all being decapitated, which was the purpose of the wire. So if these aircraft operators, these helicopter operators can see a tripwire going 90 miles an hour across a river and maneuver to prevent that from hitting the helicopter, you would think that someone trained to fly a Black Hawk helicopter would also be able to see a large passenger airline, right in front of them.
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So that's highly suspicious to me as to why this would've happened. Now look. If this was, say, an amateur helicopter operator, say it was someone that had you know, it was a hobbyist pilot, and he had a helicopter, and he was flying where he shouldn't be, which, again, I would imagine that the airspace around an airport, especially an airport in DC, would be heavily restricted. So my my guess is that if some random guy on his farm is driving his hobby helicopter and flying it in near the airport, there would have been massive commotion, and it would it would not have been allowed to get to the place where this happened. Okay.
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So he continues. He said, we had a landing mishap in Zaco that their immediate reaction saved all on board. They don't fly into commercial airplanes on accident. He continues. Aviation accounts on X show the Black Hawk flight path originating from just south of the CIA headquarters, Langley, which is there's another point of suspicion.
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So it originated from just south of the CIA headquarters and proceeding north along the West Side Of The Potomac all the way north until it reaches the south facing and approaches to the airport, and it heads directly east into the flight path of the southbound landing American jet. Anyone flying in DC airspace when preparing their flight plan will know where all restricted airspaces are, and you wouldn't want to know based on conditions whether National was using north or southbound approaches for landing if you are flying within close proximity of National to avoid hitting civilian planes. So here's some questions he has, which I think are very good questions. Were there military army pilots on board the blackhead Blackhawk? Don't assume so because the CIA often borrows military stuff to do nefarious things with.
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Was the aircraft being remotely controlled? Very fair question. Why was an experienced military flight crew, if there was one on board, flying into landing patterns of one of the busiest civilian airports? Who was on board the American airline? Was someone sending a message?
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Did the aircraft have anti avoidance equipment? Anyone who doubts airplane crashes or intelligence agencies murder tactics needs to research operation Gladio and the death of Enrico Metai, which I won't get into in this show. So let's okay. We we talked about that, but I wanna look at this. So this, again, adds a lot more confusion, and this adds a lot more questions to the overall scenario.
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So this is a post that Jane Ruby put out, and she says, was this black Hawk on a mission? Three near hits on the other aircraft until it got to that particular AA flight. So I'm gonna play this for you, from the beginning. So the orange plane or the orange, you know, plane icon on the screen is the Blackhawk helicopter, and you can see where the transponder originated from. You can see that line begins, which I'll be covering that in the next, next iteration of this, video.
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So you if you trace a path, to me, it looks like this helicopter was trying to run into planes, and it almost hit three separate planes before hitting the final plane. So let's look at it's forty six seconds long. I might play it twice as you can see this. Okay. So you can see there.
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It's going down the river. Okay. There we go. There is another airplane that it almost hits again. There's a near miss right there where it almost hits an additional airline.
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It continues, and it continues going down, going down, zigzagging. Now look at this. She says, it makes an erratic move towards the third plane. So watch this move right here. Okay?
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You see right here, there's this current location. The helicopter is not close to hitting this airline, but watch what happens. The helicopter then look at that. Okay? Look at that flight motion right there.
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The helicopter looked like it juked over to try to get in the way of that airline. Okay. I'll I'll play it more time for you. Watch this. The helicopter, it looks like it actually jerks over almost as if it was trying to hit that other airline.
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And so it continues, and it continues going down. As you see, it's heading towards the airport. You see on those gray planes, I'm guessing those are landed planes there. So it's heading now towards the airport. K.
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It's going up and above. Now it scoops back in. So it looks like it's going further away. Now it comes back in towards the airport again, and you can see right now it's zigging and zagging until right there. It hits the other plane, and that's the plane that end up being the catastrophe that we know has taken at least the lives of 64 individuals.
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So, again, I'm gonna play it one more time because this to me, this is of of everything that I've seen, this is the most damning evidence. If I was someone say I was a, you know, an air for air force colonel or Pete Hagsteth, and I was reviewing this data, I would be asking so many questions. Why is this helicopter driving or flying into the path of four different planes, and the fourth plane is the plane that actually gets hit and causes this? Which also makes me think that perhaps it wasn't necessarily that the intention was to kill a particular individual or particular group on the fourth airline, but maybe they were just trying to cause an accident. They they were trying just to take on these planes because let's let's just say that we found out that there was some, you know, high level Russian military official on the plane that went down.
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If that was the case and, you know, look, we know that the the CIA has done these things a lot where they've they've brought down airlines and to kill certain people, they've blown up airlines. You look at a lot of, world leaders, you know, they have died in airplane crashes. I mean, the airplane crash is one of the most convenient ways to take somebody out because it's so hard to prove afterwards. There and it's just like, oh, was it an accident? Like, so John Denver.
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Oh, what happened to John Denver or Kobe Bryant or, you know, the president of Ecuador or the president of Panama? Right? There's been all these instances where these these plane crashes, and everyone just says, oh, it must have been a malfunction, and there you go. So, again, I'll play this again. But to me, again, if I was p x, Seth, I'd be looking at this saying, there is something really, really wrong about the flight of this helicopter.
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This does not look like a skilled helicopter helicopter pilot. To me, this looks like someone who is on a kamikaze mission with the goal being to crash into an airline midair and cause a mass death event. So here we go. Watch. Again, flying, Barely misses the first plane.
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Keeps going, though. Right? Not happy with that. Hey. We missed the first one.
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Going for the second one. Just misses the second one again. Going going further. Oh, here's a third chance. Oh, we're gonna we're not we're not gonna hit it.
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Zigzags back. Again, look at that. Look at this fight behavior. That does not look like a normal they made almost a complete one eighty degree or actually even more. They made a complete kinda zigzag to go back into the path of that airliner.
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That does not make sense to me. And as it continues here, you see continuing and continuing. Now it's heading straight into the most dense airspace right by the airport, kinda going around and coming back in before it comes down and goes directly into the path of the American airline, a a five three four two, and there is your collision. So this to me is a smoking gun if I've ever seen one that something is amiss. I don't know what it I don't know what it is.
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I don't know what the intentions were, but this is highly, highly suspicious. Now there's a gentleman on Twitter. His pro handle is into thin air. If you're not following him, I suggest you do. He does very good videos.
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A lot of what he covers is geo geo, engineering, weather modification. He's excellent at analyzing, maps and weather maps and showing weather patterns. He's showing, you know, radar similar to the information that if you follow Dane Wigginton over at the Geoengineering Watch, he's showing oftentimes how like, if I was following him during, the different storms earlier, or sorry, late last year down in North Carolina or hurricane Milton, and, you know, his research is is brilliant. So this is what's interesting, is that he does some research into this exact flight path and the origination of it. So he says here, breaking wild new info, American Airlines and Black Hawk mid air collision.
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He says, tell me your thoughts below. Trans the transponder seemingly turned on over a specific area, which Google Earth has now blurred out. No joke. Something very fishy is going on here in way more than meets the eye. So
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Mel K: I'm gonna
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Seth Holehouse: play the first couple of minutes of of this video that he made here, which is a very, very helpful video that again, if the flight path already wasn't enough for you to say, hey. Something is not right here. What he's gonna show you here makes me even more suspicious. So I'll go ahead and full screen this so so you can see it larger. And so I'll play it.
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It'll be about two or three minutes, but this is really, really good information that, again, raises a lot more questions for me. So check this out.
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Speaker 3: Alright, everyone. Welcome back. I'm sure you have heard about the Black Hawk and the American Airlines jet that crashed. I found some very weird information tying back to the Black Hawk, which is what you're seeing right here. Here's the squawk number 0125.
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This was labeled as PAT25, which usually means someone important was on the helicopter. The media is saying different. Take that with a grain of salt. Anyway, this is exactly the point where the transponder of the Blackhawk turned on. So we are able to follow it from the second it turns on here.
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Here's part of its path. It kind of comes down this river zigzags. And then eventually, as I'm sure many of you saw it collides with that airplane right about here. But what's important here. And I want you to focus on this is exactly where this transponder turned on because this area is very significant.
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And I'm going to show you why right now. So the first thing I did obviously was go to Google earth and I found this exact area and here it is right here. Here's Lawton Street. You can go back. This is also Lawton Street Lawton Street, and this is part of Lawton Street as well.
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Now look exactly, exactly where this thing turns on right here in between this home and this home. Now I'm going to go right to this spot closest to the street right here. Here we go. Switch over to Google Earth. We'll zoom down and this house is right here.
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The transponder turned on right here above these trees. And here is the kicker, my friends. When you go on Google Earth, usually you see most of the houses on street view. The only house blurred out is this one right here. Take a look at this.
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We're gonna turn around this way. Gone. You cannot see this house from any angle on Google Earth. Now this is something you can call Google Earth and request if you have issues, privacy concerns, you can have this done. But I mean, on, what are the chances of this?
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This is exactly where that helicopter transponder turned on and the only spot we can start following the chopper. So let's exit out of here. Once again, here is that house with the white driveway. This is the house that's blurred out. The transponder turned on right here over these trees.
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Now I'm still trying to figure out what to make of this, but I went to Grok and it's pretty interesting what Grock respond. Alright. Here we go. If the flight data indicates that the Black Hawks helicopter transponder went on directly over 6907 Lawton Street in McLean, Virginia, and this is the only house blurred out in that area, several points can be considered. Obviously, coincidence or connection.
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The coincidence of the transponder activating directly over a blurred house could be significant, but without specific details or official reports linking the two events will remain speculative. Obviously, it's going to remain that way. They are saying this was a training exercise. I still believe there is way more to this. Now just take a look at this one real quick.
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It says flight data and timing. If the transponder data aligns with the moment of the crash or shortly before, this could be a key piece of information for investigators. However, the activation of a transponder over a particular point doesn't inherently imply a direct cause or effect with the crash unless further evidence supports this. Now, obviously, I do believe that as well. This could be a total coincidence, but I just find it very, very weird how the one house blurred out in this entire freaking town is the one house this transponder turned on over.
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And now if we can catch some of this flight, let's go ahead and look at it. I'm sure a lot of you have seen it, but here we go. And there's the crash there. So this thing was zigzagging all over the place. And there were some instances where this helicopter was almost going towards other airplanes before it finally made contact with the American Airlines jet.
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And this is the last frame we have where they make contact and fall into the river. I don't know everybody. This is just very strange and also I broke this yesterday that the doomsday plane left Omaha right after the crash and flew directly to Washington DC. This plane is only used for like very specific things, very high military stuff, transporting important people like the president, which then in that case would be called air force one. But this thing literally beelined from Omaha, Nebraska all the way to the site of the crash, looped around and then landed at Joint Base Andrews.
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Here's another shot of it. This is when it came in towards Washington, looped around of the crash, and then it's gonna circle it and go right to Andrews right here. Now for those of that know what this plane is for, you already know that this is super rare. I talked to multiple members of the military, active and retired, who said that this is a key part of this story. They didn't say why or what, but they said if this thing's in the area after a crash like that, something very important happened that we probably don't know about.
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Alright, my friends. I wanted to try to keep this short so we could digest this information in shorter videos. I'll have much more info out throughout the day. Check out the x Instagram and TikTok channels as well as YouTube obviously because as always, I can talk about certain things on certain sites and other things on others. Alright, everyone.
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Prayers to all involved. Please leave your thoughts down below and I'll see you all in the next one. Take care. Bye bye.
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Seth Holehouse: That was into thin air, which I I highly recommend you give him a follow. He does very, very good research. But, again, more aspects of this story are very, very suspicious. Now I know that the the doomsday plane as he called it is also, I think, from what my research has shown me is that it's also a plane they use for nuclear sniffing. So if there is a suspected terrorist attack or something, like, maybe that is maybe that's the story is that this this happened, and they thought, okay.
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This is suspicious. We're gonna go out and check it out. That could have been it. It could have been as simple as that. However, as he mentioned in the very end of the video, he showed that particular flight path, and he said that he talked to, current and retired, military folks and contacts that he had.
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They said this is a key part of the story. So, again, you take a step back. You know, Trump has come out, and he's blaming this on DEI policies. Now, of course, DEI policies have caused a lot of issues and a lot of plane crashes and all kinds of terrible things in our country, which we can see. It's like, yes.
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If your policy is to try to hire someone that's mentally retarded, you know, pardon if I'm offending anybody with that, but someone that is subpar in their intelligence to perform a complex task, you can expect that maybe there might be more problems than if a normal intelligent person is doing that task. But I have so many questions about this, but also looking at the timing. Right? So, again, this was the day before Kash Patel's, hearing. He where there you know, he's going through his confirmation hearing.
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Then before that, this is within the first two weeks of Trump being president. Now, of course, we saw all kinds of things like this happening under Biden. So it's not that this stuff didn't happen, and all of it's happening under Trump. But, again, it makes me ask a lot of questions. But I'd love to hear from you.
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Let me know in the comments what do you think. What what is the research that you've done? Do you see a different angle to the story? You probably do because you're really, really smart. I love reading the comments that you have.
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So that's it for the the analysis of this. I I now have a an interview for you. Now this is doesn't relate to the plane crash because this is more of a breaking story I was doing, but there's another very important breaking story as it relates to the global banking system. So if you've been following my show, you know that I cover a lot of big picture geopolitics, a lot of the health freedom information, but also a lot about what's happening with fiat currencies, the global economy, and the scare of the massive debt bubble that our country has, you know, $35,000,000,000,000 plus debt bubble, and what's going on with the future, and also what's gonna happen with Trump getting in here. So I have a very special interview with my good friend Colin Plume about some breaking news as it relates to gold.
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So to give you just a really quick overview of what's going on, for one, today, gold hit a record high. So gold hit it's over 2,800 an ounce at the time of recording this, and so gold hit a record high table. Something happened today where, I'm sorry, in the last twenty four hours or so, we're over at the Bank of England where supposedly a massive gold depository. What's happening is that a lot of people were taking their gold out of the depositories and sending them over to United States. Now there's speculation because it's a it's out of a fear of tariffs.
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So let's just say that I'm some, you know, very wealthy family, and I've got, you know, you know, $10,000,000 worth of gold sitting over in a depository in England. And I'm concerned that Trump is gonna start putting, tariffs onto bringing precious metals in The United States, I would take that gold out, and I would move it to a bank in The United States. That way, you know, when the tariffs hit, I'm safe. What's happened though is that there's been a flight of gold, almost a gold run. Some are to a bank run, but almost a gold run where so many people have been pulling their gold out of the Bank of England and and sending it to United States that the Bank of England is now telling people that if you wanna pull your gold out of our depositories instead of your typical two or three days, it's four to six weeks or sorry, four to eight weeks.
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So imagine you're someone sitting there, and you've got millions of dollars in gold sitting with the Bank of England, and you have a piece of paper that says you own this gold, and all of a sudden, they're telling you, oh, sorry. You can't get your gold for another two months. This raises all kinds of red flags. But to me, the most important thing that's so significant about this is that I believe that and not so I believe. My research has shown me that the elites and the banking families have been manipulating the prices of precious metals, gold and silver, through paper contracts.
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Basically, let's just say that this piece of pencil is a an ounce of gold or an ounce of silver. So I'm let's just say that I'm keeping this single ounce of silver in my vault, and you're depositing all your you're giving me your silver or you're buying a piece of paper saying you own this piece of silver. But what they've done is they have sold the same piece of silver to a hundred different people with silver contracts. And so it's been a way that what they've done is they have really messed with the overall supply and demand for precious metals. It allows them to artificially inflate the supply of precious metals sometimes up to a hundred times.
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And so think about that in a supply and demand market. What happens if you create an artificial abundance of a product? Well, the price gets driven down because everyone thinks it's there's so much of it. And so what could be happening right now is the the the breaking of that system. Right?
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The illusion that the elites have been using to suppress the prices of precious metals could be breaking right now because people are now realizing that even though they have a piece of paper saying they own this ounce of gold as ounce of silver, when they go to get it, it's like, well, it's gonna take, like, four to eight weeks to get it for you. And everyone's thinking, wait. Do you actually have that, or did someone else did someone else have that same piece of paper, and they want the same piece of metal there? So this could be a very, very significant story, and the fact that gold hit a record high today and silver is up today leads me to believe that this might just be the beginning of the end for these, you know, banky banking elite families' ability to manipulate the precious metals prices, which, again, helps them to, you know, control the fiat currency and really ultimately helps them to enslave us further. So, folks, please enjoy this interview next with Colin Plume.
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It's only about a thirty minute interview or so, so it really can't get straight to the point because, again, this is a very significant story for us to pay attention to. Enjoy the interview. So we're going on almost ten days of having Trump in office, and we have seen massive changes, across the country and around the world. And one of the big topics I've been following closely to try to understand how his presidency is gonna change is the global economic situation. Right?
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United States is sitting in 35 plus trillion dollars in debt, and Trump has talked openly now multiple times even in addressing congress about getting rid of income tax, which I would be the first person to say, great idea, but replacing that income with tariffs. Now for me living in America, the idea of tariffs seems like a good idea. I know certain goods will become more expensive, but I'm very, very American first. I like the idea of making the foreign corporations and foreign countries pay to play. But we're starting to see ripples on what these tariffs could actually do internationally, and and we have seen a breaking story in the past couple of hours about how it's affecting the gold exchanges and the flow of precious metals into America as people are concerned that if they don't get their precious metals into America before these tariffs hit, that they're gonna see their price of these metals skyrocket because of that.
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And so joining us is my good friend, Colm Plum. That was breakdown the story. So, Colm, Colm, welcome to the show. It's great to have you. We just from, last week, I think, and, already some big news is happening.
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So thanks for being here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I think anytime you see, a news report saying that the Bank of England is is doesn't have they're basically short on gold, and they've told investors that they have to wait four to eight weeks to get their gold. It's something that you it raises an eyebrow, I
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Seth Holehouse: I
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Speaker 4: think. And and I don't know if if the tariff idea is really what's pushing this idea. I think that's it's it's part of the story potentially, but I don't know. I mean, have we discussed doing tariffs with with The UK? I haven't seen any tariffs with The UK.
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Have you?
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Seth Holehouse: No. I haven't. But if you look at what happened with Colombia and how quick quickly, you know, Trump just pulled out that massive tariff club and started swinging it at any country that was, going up against what he wanted to have happen, maybe the folks in UK are thinking, well, we we better get ahead of this. And let me go and pull up the, article that we can just, I'll do a quick read through of some of the highlights, and I really wanna get your thoughts on this. So, this is just today, Financial Times gold stockpiling in New York leads to London shortage.
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Says, wait to withdraw bullion from Bank of England rises sharply as fears of Trump's tariff tariffs drive shipments to The United States. Says, a surge in gold shipments to The US has led to a shortage of bullion in London as traders amass an $82,000,000,000 stockpile in New York over fears of Trump administration tariffs. It says the weight to withdraw bullion stored in the Bank of England's vaults has risen from a few days to between four and eight weeks according to people to familiar with the process in this as the central banks struggle to keep up with demand. Here's a quote that says, people can't get their hands on gold because so much has been shipped to New York, and the rest is stuck in the queue, said one industry executive. Liquidity in the London market has been diminished.
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Now it says that since November's US election, gold traders and financial institutions have moved 393 metric tons into the vaults of the COMEX commodity exchange in New York, driving its inventory levels up nearly 75% to 926 tons, the highest level since August 2022. Now it says that gold, total gold flows into The US could be far higher than the COMEX numbers reflect according to market participants because there are likely to have been additional shipments to private vaults in New York owned by HSBC and JPMorgan. Those two banks declined to comment. So, Colin, as the CEO of Noble Gold, you're obviously following these stories, and you understand a lot about the the precious metals market. So what do you see happening here?
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And I think the important question that I'm wondering as someone that is invested into precious metals is, how do you think this is gonna play out in terms of the prices of gold and silver this year?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So, again, I still am confused in the idea that there's tariffs because it's never been discussed with UK. But but the thing that the most interesting thing of that whole article to me is the idea of it being stuck in the queue. I don't understand. How is it stuck?
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It when you buy these contracts of gold, the gold is supposed to be there. There there's no there's no queue. You're not waiting on the gold. That and that's the thing that I've we've talked about a lot over over the years is that, is there gold backing up every contract? And and what they're alluding to is that there's not, that they're waiting.
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They have to wait, which means they don't have the gold. They have to they have to accumulate the gold from somewhere. How can that be? COMEX and these, they're supposed to do audits. There there's in London, New York, there's audits.
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So why would there be any weight of gold? Right now, I can get gold to somebody in five days. You know? I'm a lonely gold dealer here in The US. Right?
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I mean, I'm no Bank of England, but I I I can tell you this. We're shipping gold. It's getting there very quickly. The concerning thing is is are these institutions actually holding enough gold? That's what that's what that means to me.
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And and why aren't these contracts backed up by by the real metal? That's concerning to me.
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Seth Holehouse: And so one thing I also wonder as well is because I've done a lot of kind of digging into how they've been able to suppress the prices of precious precious metals. And, you know, one idea that I've come to over and over again through my research is that they're basically using these contracts to create an artificial supply that's much larger than the actual supply. Correct. So that I've heard sometimes it it's even a hundred to one. Right?
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So for every one ounce of silver, they've got con they've got a hundred contracts out for a hundred ounces, which it seems like it's some sort of Ponzi scheme. And if the banks are the ones that are inflating and selling these these contracts, then I feel like that what it's doing is it's messing with the natural laws of supply and demand because if a lot of investors around the world think, oh, I've got a silver certificate. See, I own a thousand ounces of silver on paper. But if a hundred other people also own that same thousand ounces on paper, it's the same thing as the banking industry. And what causes bank collapses is that everyone says, oh, my bank account says I have a hundred thousand dollars, but with the the the the amounts the the the minimum requirements that banks have, you might be one of a thousand people that all claim the same hundred thousand dollars.
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Right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. The the fractional reserve currency, the way that banks hold, you know, maybe a tenth of of what they have in in savings. I think that's I mean, this is in essence like a bank run. That's that's in essence what happened is that people said, I I don't feel comfortable. I I want it closer.
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I wanna actually get the the gold. And then there were so many people saying, I wanna get the gold that they couldn't keep up. They didn't have enough gold. And so, you know, this is when people always ask me, you know, how do you buy gold? How do you do it?
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And and that's why a lot of people just won't mess around with any kind of contracted gold or or any kind of ETF because they're concerned about this exact situation. And I and I think it also shows that people are concerned about where the price could go, and and they they wanna get their hands on gold because they're anticipating prices to go up. Tariffs are are one part of the conversation. I mean, there's there's been conversations about how that would affect other precious metals, silver too, you know, silver imports into The US. So there's a lot of this talk about how these things would would affect us, and and February 1 is right around the corner.
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So I I think people are wanting to put themselves in the best position to get any assets before there could be any kind of spike. And and that's what I saw when I saw this report. I mean, this this news report splashed all over the news, all over Great Britain, all over in New York. You know, starting to make its way around the country now, but I I think as more people see this happening, they're gonna realize, like, wow. This is a shortage, and I and I won't be surprised if we see other areas start to have a similar thing because people once they realize that there's not the gold that they purchased there, they're gonna also question and go, you know what?
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I wanna call that contract in. I wanna get some of my gold too. And a lot of people have been I don't know if you know this, but there's there's this mystery Asian buyer that they've been talking about on the gold market. There's these very wealthy Asian families that have been just gobbling up tremendous amounts of gold over the last ninety days. They they call it the mystery agent buyer because it's not one person.
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It's usually a conglomerate of very wealthy people that are doing this, and they believe that's part of the reason that the prices continue to to kinda push up. So it it's I think the gold market is telling us something with the shortage that people wanna get it. There's there is some movement here. There's something happening behind the scenes that are making people cautious. And I I think at the end of the day, everybody wants to have their gold.
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That's why you buy it. And now, you know, I'm sure those those people waiting on those eight weeks are not gonna be happy, until they get the gold in their hands.
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Seth Holehouse: Especially if they believe that that gold that they own was sitting in a vault with their name on it. And now they discover it's almost like sometimes, you know, if you go to the bank these days and, you know, say for me, if I have to pay a contractor, and I need to go get $5,000 cash to, you know, pay a handful of contractors for some work on my house, and the bank is asking, well, what's this money for, and what's your profession? And sometimes I'll joke. I'm like, actually, I'm a mercenary. And I'll bet I'm just kidding, and and they'll laugh with me.
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I have fun with it. But it it's the same thing. It's like, well, hold on. Isn't this my money that's sitting in the account?
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Robert Kiyosaki: Yeah. Yeah.
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Seth Holehouse: And, you know, you mentioned bank runs, and and that this is what's what comes to mind with this is because, you know, as we know about our banking system here in America, that it's really it's almost a a normalcy bias that keeps our banking system healthy. It's a belief that everyone thinks, oh, well, my money is safe in the bank, and it's insured by the FDIC. But when you look and you realize that the FDIC can only insure, you know, 1% of the overall deposits that it's supposed to be insuring, If enough people see through that, they're gonna lose trust. And so I'm thinking the same thing that you are is is this the beginning of the I wouldn't say necessarily collapse of a certain system, but the the the the breaking of the illusion that they've been using to oversell precious metals to keep the prices down. I mean, what do you think?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I I mean, I think that's that's a logical conclusion, and I think they the thing that I didn't see is why isn't anyone questioning the the practices of these depositories? Why isn't anyone saying, where is the gold? Why is it why isn't it being audited? Where where is the oversight here?
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Because COMEX, this is this is the the biggest exchange where everybody LBMA, this is where all the gold and silver. This is where central banks are going. This is where they're bartering from. I mean, there should be better oversight. This isn't a small amount of gold.
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This what is it? $82,000,000,000 in gold? This is a tremendous amount of gold that they don't know where it is, and they don't know when they're gonna be able to get it shipped out. So I I think that, you know, if we were in a COVID time, you know, people might say, oh, maybe they're waiting on delivery or maybe this and that. We can't say that today.
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There there's nothing like that. There's no there's no, you know, world crisis like that that's happened today. So there's really no excuse for them not to have this gold. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of it and discovery, but it's just the first little inkling that there that there's a problem that that they may not have all the gold they say they have, and and I'd be interested to see if they're gonna do more audits. And if it turns out they don't have all the gold, that it's not all reported, that they're waiting on it and fractional, then you're right.
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Then the the price is suppressed, and then the price should be much higher than where it is today. And and that's that will be telling to see. But, you know, at the end of the day, I mean, in an inflationary environment like we're in right now, gold is is gonna do well, and and that's why you're seeing kind of this pandemonium now where they're just like, they really wanna get their hands on their gold. They wanna feel safe. They wanna know it's secure, and and I can't blame them for that.
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Seth Holehouse: And so let it's no. None none of us have a crystal ball. But if gold and we can say gold and silver because, you know, I'm I'm kind of personally, I've got both gold and silver. Actually, I'm more heavily in silver than gold because I because of the ratios, and I think that the ratios alone tell me silver should be much higher. Right?
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Actually, it's supposed to be, what, closer to a 20 to one ratio, whereas right now, it's what? You know, 90 to one or 80 to one?
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Speaker 4: 90 one to one. Yeah. Right now. Yeah. Yeah.
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The the hundred year average is 50 to one, which actually I go over in my book, Silver's New Oil. I talk about all these things. But, yeah, I mean, even if it went back to you know, it was 30 to one in 02/2011. So that would be where the gold is today, where silver is today, silver would go to, you know, a hundred and 20, a hundred and $30. So that'd be a pretty massive gain from where it is today.
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So, yeah, I agree with you. I like silver. I think the price has been suppressed in silver also, but we'll see. Maybe there's gonna be some runs on silver too because COMEX, they also hold silver. You know, I know they hold, you know, thousand ounce silver bars.
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And so we'll see if people are gonna start wanting to have those and and know where they are and have some physical delivery of that too. You know, they just talked about the gold, but that could just kinda be the start of this here. So it it is there's a lot of movement here, but, ultimately, I think the idea is people wanted to protect themselves from a potential tariff. And by doing so, realize the gold that they thought they bought is it it may not be there, and it created more of a a hysteria. And and we'll see what happens over the next few days if they're able to to make it better.
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I mean, after they said four to eight weeks, there was no comment after that. That was it. There was nothing else. They didn't wanna make any other comments, which if I'm an investor there, that doesn't make me feel good that they don't wanna comment either even farther than that. I mean, any logical person would say, like, I should get I should get more than a no comment when you supposedly have my medals that is supposed to be delivered in three days, and now you're telling me four to eight weeks.
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So there's more to this story.
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Seth Holehouse: There is. So I mentioned the crystal ball. I know you don't have a crystal ball, but you have obviously studied this extensively, and you go over a lot of it in your book. Yeah. If if there was the the you know, more of a run on on these metals and if the the illusion and and the price controls that they've been using through overselling, you know, and overinflating the supply through the the paper contracts, if that fell apart and everyone actually just demanded to have the metals that they had on paper, What do you think what could the price of of these metals go to?
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Because I know last year, some of the bigger banks were saying gold could be 3 to 5,000 an ounce potentially. Yeah. What what do you see as a potential for this?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I think with silver, if I just look at what happened during COVID because that is sort of what happened during COVID is that people couldn't get silver. Right? Because most of the silver in the world is mined in Mexico, and their mines shut down for for many, many months. And once people realized they couldn't get it and it was unavailable, the price went from, you know, $12.13 dollars and went in six months, it went from $12.13 all the way up to $30 an ounce.
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It was a massive run because people the idea that they couldn't get it, you know, there's it just creates this couple of the fact that government was just printing money. I mean, it was it was just the kind of the perfect storm for metals. So I think at minimum, you'd see that kind of hysteria where it would double. But, you know, if it if it's really true that they don't have all the silver and that that these contracts have been in place and they've just been, you know, manipulating the market, and and they haven't been telling us that. And who knows?
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Who's I mean, the sky's the limit on both gold and silver if if those things were to happen. I mean, the it would basically say that every person that's bought it at the current price bought bought gold that they thought was relatively rare, but it actually was even more rare. It it'd be like, you know, buying like a like, you know, buying like a regular Porsche and then finding out that it's actually one in a thousand, right, or one in you know, maybe it's the only one that they've ever made. You'd be sitting on an antique, right, sitting on something that's much more valuable. So I think if you had that value underneath you and and knowing that there's there's a lot less gold in the world available, there's a lot less silver in the world that's available, the price would just it would be it would be quite unbelievable.
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And and, you know, we'd go back to how we were working during COVID. We were working seven days a week during COVID. We'd be going back to that scenario, which, you know, we'd be happy to do.
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Seth Holehouse: It also makes me wonder because looking at what just happened with DeepSeek and look at the big tech stocks, but also looking at how much money was pulled out of the crypto market. I I'm wondering if there's a lot of people that not just crypto, but even that we're just investing in, like, the magnificent seven and the big tech stocks. If that you know, with that shakeup that happened and it's also interesting that you mentioned that there's these big Asian buyers, which, you know, I I look at what happened with DeepSeek and and that they just released a new Alibaba AI. I think it's called, Quinn, I think it is, which makes me think, is this economic warfare by China to collapse some of these tech stocks, which really represents the massive bubble of our stock market? And I'm wondering if these families know what's coming.
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And so these wealthy Asian families that are probably tied into the CCP or some of the larger leading organizations of the BRICS, etcetera, if they know something is coming. So they're you know, while everyone else is you have been rushing to buy, you know, crypto and and the stock market, they they see what's coming, and they're quietly moving all of their assets into precious metals.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. It it definitely it it's a big I I believe in that too, and then I think that listen. If you look at it's always hard to know what markets are gonna do, but I I think DeepSeek and what happened on Monday and and the fact that the the we're riding so much on this AI tech, that so much of the stock market is built on that and that they could build it for for a fraction of the price, you know. They've been telling, you know, ChatGBT and Nvidia said, you need billions and billions of dollars in chips and you need these computers and you need all this and it's gonna cost $6,000,000,000. And this this company does it for $6,000,000, Right?
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I mean, that that's that's sending that's gonna continue to send some shock waves through the market. And and the majority of the wealth, as you said, you know, 35% of the wealth there is is those magnificent seven companies, and really, their big push is AI in one form or another. That's the real, you know, potential growth story that they're telling us that will continue to push things even higher. But if the cost that we're paying in The US is too high and they can do it for a fraction of the price and the competition's gonna come from all over the world, then what are those magnificent seven really? What are they really gonna do, and how are they gonna compete at at some of the prices that these other countries can build these products at?
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And that's that's gonna be a telling story here. And and, you know, listen. It's so heavily weighted in the seven companies, and the volatility index is very high. You know, there's it's concerning. And then Powell, you know, obviously, like, being cautious in terms of the Fed and saying he's not gonna lower lower rates.
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So there's there's some things happening. This, I I think, was the most interesting week in news in terms of economics that we've had in a long time. I mean, so many different variables came to the forefront. And I think the thing that, you know, reminds me is that at the end of the day, you're buying different assets to protect yourself. You're buying uncorrelated assets.
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And so the gold and silver is the safety play, right? And that if things do go a little haywire and things aren't as strong as they are, is that you have something that you own that that has no debt behind it, that you own, and that has performed well for thousands of years. And and that's really the thing that I always think about is that you're never gonna pick it always perfect. You gotta move and shift as you see opportunities, and I and I think that we're in an opportunity cycle. I think I I % agree with you.
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Silver is the opportunity right now. I love where the price is, so I'm really, really hedging my bet and buying a lot there. I'm excited about it. So but, yeah, from from deep seek to this gold, you know, shocking gold story, there's definitely some movement behind the scenes where people are getting out of some of the traditional stuff, and and they're hedging their bet, basically. And they're they're gonna float a they're gonna float a safety.
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Seth Holehouse: And that's that's really my perspective too is that, you know, I look at precious metals not as a get rich quick. Of course, look, I would love if if silver hit $75 an ounce. I'd like, okay. Great. I'll pay off my car, and I'll do do something else, and it it'd be amazing, but that's not why I've put, you know, any basically, any extra money I have then towards investments goes into precious metals because for me, it's the same reason why I've got a a huge storage of food, of, know, storable food, and why I've I've I own land because I think that we're entering into a time period of massive instability.
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And the only thing, you know, that I feel safe with, even safer than having cash in my hand, is precious metals. And to me, it's an insurance policy that if things go sideways, I'm not gonna wake up one day and see that my stock portfolio has gone from, you know, $500,000 to $50,000 overnight. And I know that, like, that's that's to me what what precious metals represent is it's it's security. It's an insurance policy. It's something that, hey.
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You know what? I can pass this on to my children one day, and it's gonna set them up, and it's it's gonna give them security.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's funny you mentioned, and you started talking about your family. And and I think fundamentally, the thing that always, you know, draws people to precious metals and these types of safety investments is family. I mean, that's really why we do all of these things is you do wanna put your family in the best possible position. And, you know, when we talk to people about precious metals and why they're doing it, a lot of it is not even for them.
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It's for their kids. It's for their spouse. And so I think that's the the layer too is that when you take the the ego out of it in investing in business and all this and you really just fundamentally realize that you're doing this to provide the best life for your family, then it it makes things a lot. It makes a lot of the decisions much much easier. And that's what people have told me for this, you know, sixteen years I've been doing this is like I made this decision for my family, and and I think that's the best way to make any of these decisions.
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Listen, there's speculative stuff. There's speculative investments, and you're gonna take a flyer on something, and you're gonna win some. You're gonna lose some. But it's at some point, you gotta make some some kind of safety smart decisions for your family. And I think that's why a lot of people right now are starting to see what's happening and realize, hey.
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This is this could be a good time to just take some chips off the table, get into something safe, and and just, you know, prepare myself for for anything that can happen.
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Seth Holehouse: And, Colin, I I couldn't agree more, and and I I'm practicing what I'm preaching. This is my exact philosophy. So if folks want to reach out to your company, Noble Gold, which you you've got my full trust. I've I've done a lot of business with you. I know you on a very personal level.
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We've got a a website set up. So goldwithseth.com. It brings them here. You've got this the gold and silver investment guide. They can enter in their contact information here.
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Also, your phone number we've got is (626) 654-1906. So, Colin, walk us through if someone calls this phone number or if they fill out that form, say they've got an IRA or say they've just got a cash account they wanna move into precious metals. Is it complicated? What's that process look like?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. No. We I mean, listen. The first thing is we get to know you. We we the person that you're on the phone with, you they're gonna be your person.
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And we work as teams, but we typically be one person as you build a relationship. So the idea is you get to know them. They get to know you. They learn about you and your family and kind of what you're thinking. You know, what what's the idea?
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We are we doing an IRA? Are we doing cash? And they're gonna walk you through that whole process. But now we've done, you know, thousands and thousands of transactions. We've shipped over $1,200,000,000 in gold and silver.
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We've done over $2,000,000,000 in precious metal sales. We make it very easy. Whether it's an IRA, the paperwork's easy. We do all the paperwork for you. Or if it's just, you know, a cash direct investment, we do that.
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We ship it to you. Or if you want, we can store it. Yeah. We handhold. It's a very white glove experience, and we've done it in a very specific way.
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So we we focus on less investors, but we build relationships with those investors and and they get great service, and and that's what they're gonna feel. And everybody that that you're gonna talk to owns precious metals, knows precious metals, loves precious metals. This is what they do all day. So you're not you know, you're focused on somebody that really understands this, and they're gonna go through all the details, explain the products, spend a lot of time with you, and then, you know, ultimately let you make a decision if it's if it's right for you and your family.
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Seth Holehouse: Oh, sounds perfect. So I'll bring up the website one more time. GoldwithSeth.com. Phone number, (626) 654-1906. That information will also be in the description for today's show.
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And, honestly, you know, my just my advice to, you know, the the viewer, also to my family, whoever it is, is that right. It's almost like right now, you have the opportunity to buy toilet paper before there's a lines at Costco for toilet paper. And that's what I did. I went out, and I I had a whole kind of stock room of toilet paper and stuff like that before everything hit with COVID because I saw the writing on the wall. And Yep.
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Even now, I look back at some of the stuff that I bought, you know, let's say in 2020, '20 '20 '1 that, you know, whether it's food supplies or whatever it is, I paid a third of the price of what it is now because I saw what was coming. And that's how I look at precious metals right now. I I think that right now is the opportune time, and what you say with silver is the new oil. I agree. It's like, yeah, it's like oil being at $10 a barrel right now.
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It's like, hey, folks. Oil's $10 a barrel. It could go to a hundred bucks a barrel. So, anyway, well, Colin, thank you for coming on. Do you have any closing thoughts as we round this discussion out?
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Speaker 4: No. I I'm glad we were able to get on. Think it's so much happening in the news. Can't wait to talk again. And yeah, if anyone's just looking to learn and get educated, call us.
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