Latest / BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show / Discovering the MotorCities National Heritage Area: Where America’s Automotive Story Lives
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- 0:00Break fix podcast is all about capturing the living history of people from
- 0:04all over the auto sphere, from wrench turners and racers to artists, authors,
- 0:09designers, and everything in between.
- 0:11Our goal is to inspire a new generation of petrol heads that wonder.
- 0:16How did they get that job or become that person?
- 0:19The road to success is paved by all of us because everyone has a story.
- 0:27Have you ever found yourself on a long road trip cruising down the highway
- 0:31and wondered what those brown signs along the roadside are all about?
- 0:35Or maybe you say to yourself, I wish I had more time to stop and check that out.
- 0:39Well, if you happen to be in the Detroit metropolitan area anytime soon, you need
- 0:44to take that off ramp and check out the Motor City's National Heritage Area, where
- 0:48they tell the stories of how southeast and central Michigan put the world on wheels.
- 0:53And with us tonight is Director of Communications and Engagement
- 0:56Bob Sadler to explain why taking this particular detour needs to be
- 1:01part of your upcoming travel plans.
- 1:03And with that, welcome to BreakFix, Bob.
- 1:05Hey, great.
- 1:06It's great to be on and looking forward to it.
- 1:08Well, like all good BreakFix stories, there's a superhero origin.
- 1:12But in this case, we're talking about something a little less tangible.
- 1:16We're talking about a national heritage area.
- 1:19So, like we said in the intro, many of us have seen these signs and maybe
- 1:23oftentimes are clouded by the need to pull off where the blue signs take us.
- 1:27But let's talk about what these brown signs are all about.
- 1:30And first off, what is a National Heritage Area?
- 1:33A National Heritage Area, it's a really interesting concept because we are
- 1:37actually at Motor City's National Heritage Area part of What the National Park
- 1:42Service refers to as a national heritage area system, there's specific themes or
- 1:48industries or geographic features in the country that in the case of Michigan.
- 1:54Ours is the automobile.
- 1:56We are the part of the world that put America on wheels
- 2:00and put the world on wheels.
- 2:02Our National Heritage Area is devoted specifically to our country's
- 2:06automotive and labor heritage.
- 2:09We are all about those tinkerers that became titans and the working people
- 2:14that became part of a middle class.
- 2:16And all those stories that came together in this unique place with unique
- 2:22natural resources, unique geography, surrounded by the Great Lakes, and
- 2:27it created all of the right stuff.
- 2:30All in one place to make the automobile what it became.
- 2:34So we have the credibility and prestige that comes with being part
- 2:39of the National Park Service, but National Heritage areas, each in
- 2:42their own way are completely unique.
- 2:45There are actually 62 different National Heritage areas around the United States.
- 2:50Motor City's National Heritage Area happens to be the only one
- 2:55currently in the state of Michigan.
- 2:57So a National Heritage Area as part of the National Park Service, if we think about
- 3:01it maybe from a perspective that we're familiar with, if any of us go camping
- 3:06or you've been to a state park or one of the state preserves, things like that, Is
- 3:10there a sense of preservation here too?
- 3:12Is a national heritage area a protected area?
- 3:15We work specifically in a number of areas, but one of the things that
- 3:19we try to do is to preserve the automotive heritage and labor heritage.
- 3:24So there is a preservation element of certain historic sites that were relevant
- 3:30to the creation of the automobile.
- 3:32The moving assembly line, you know, all those kinds of places that were
- 3:36involved in the creation of the U.
- 3:39A.
- 3:39W.
- 3:401 key aspect of our mission is revitalization and preservation.
- 3:45Motor cities gives out grants.
- 3:47We're involved in helping preserve key automotive sites,
- 3:51whether they're old factories.
- 3:54Whether they're homes of auto barons, there's a number of
- 3:57different kinds of sites.
- 3:58Sites that were relevant to the creation of the United Auto Workers
- 4:02and organized labor in Michigan around the automotive industry.
- 4:06We have a three pronged mission where preservation and
- 4:10revitalization is one aspect of that.
- 4:12And then we also are involved in education and interpretation of telling that story.
- 4:18And then the third prong is heritage tourism, where we are literally
- 4:23promoting and marketing this area of lower Michigan as a tourist destination
- 4:29for people who are interested in the story of how this state put the
- 4:33world on wheels, almost acting like a destination marketing organization, like
- 4:38a convention bureau or a tourism bureau.
- 4:41So there had to be a catalyst or an inflection point that said, you know
- 4:46what, we need to preserve some of these old factories in these buildings,
- 4:49like you said, and some have been lost to time where the city has changed.
- 4:53The city has evolved.
- 4:54Somebody stood up and said, Hey, hey, stop, stop.
- 4:57This is part of our legacy.
- 4:58This is what makes Detroit an amazing part of the history of the world.
- 5:02As you're saying, when did the Motor City's National Heritage Area get started?
- 5:06The National Heritage Area movement actually started in the late 80s.
- 5:10The first one dates back to the Reagan administration.
- 5:13The idea that became Motor City's National Heritage Area started out in the 1990s.
- 5:19And so in the 90s, National Heritage Areas were still kind of a new idea.
- 5:24There were people in Michigan who thought the automotive industry might be
- 5:28a really good match with this concept.
- 5:31There were a number of folks, a kind of a coalition that crossed
- 5:36education, key museums and historic sites, the state historical museum,
- 5:43a number of places came together.
- 5:45And so the idea of creating a national heritage area in Michigan
- 5:50around automotive and labor heritage started to gather momentum.
- 5:54All of the national heritage areas.
- 5:56Need to be approved by acts of Congress and then signed by the president.
- 6:03We had a champion in the United States House of Representatives in
- 6:08the late Congressman John Dingell, who was a longtime Detroit area
- 6:13congressman in November of 1998.
- 6:17The bill creating the Automobile National Heritage Area was
- 6:22signed by President Bill Clinton.
- 6:24And again, it was championed by John Dingell in the House, the late Senator
- 6:28Carl Levin in the Senate, and November 6, 1998, what we now know as Motor
- 6:34City's National Heritage Area was born.
- 6:36So Bob, being a small, non for profit organization, how did
- 6:40you get involved with the Motor City's National Heritage Area?
- 6:43I actually have devoted most of my career Two nonprofit organizations.
- 6:49I actually spent 18 years at the Detroit Historical Society
- 6:53prior to joining Motor Cities.
- 6:56So I was actually at the Detroit Historical Museum, which is why
- 6:59I'm able to talk so much about the specifics of the automotive exhibits
- 7:04and, and stuff in the collection there.
- 7:06So I was there for 18 years and I joined Motor Cities in 2017.
- 7:11So I've actually been at Motor Cities now for almost seven years.
- 7:15So I've been steeped in history, just have delved into the automotive
- 7:19part of our history even more in the time since I've joined Motor Cities.
- 7:24So were you a petrolhead by birth or were you birthed into becoming a petrolhead?
- 7:30I would say I was not a petrolhead from birth.
- 7:34We actually, uh, was, uh, born and raised in the Cleveland area, where
- 7:38I tell you one thing, if Winton had beaten Henry Ford in that race that the
- 7:43two of them had around 1900 or so, I can't remember the exact date, but if
- 7:48Henry Ford hadn't beaten Winton in that race, Cleveland would be the automotive
- 7:54capital of the world and not Detroit.
- 7:57Going back to the people that started the initiative back in the 90s,
- 8:00do you think they were inspired by folks like Henry Ford and what
- 8:05he did with Greenfield Village?
- 8:07Because that was a concept of preserving history as well, where he brought in
- 8:11things like Edison's lab into that environment, and that still exists today.
- 8:15Is that also part of the National Heritage Area?
- 8:18I'm sure that both his story and his aura Is definitely present in the creation of
- 8:25Motor City's National Heritage Area, the Henry Ford Museum, Greenfield Village.
- 8:29They have a rouge factory tour.
- 8:32The story of Henry Ford actually crosses a number of our partner
- 8:36organizations and attractions.
- 8:38I was noticing on the website, there's actually a list of where you get
- 8:42notified when you're on a road trip that you're entering the National
- 8:46Heritage Area or you're approaching it.
- 8:48To kind of map it out, how big is the footprint of the Motor
- 8:51City's National Heritage Area?
- 8:53The actual footprint covers over 10, 000 square miles, so it's a pretty good
- 8:59chunk of the lower peninsula of Michigan.
- 9:01It translates out to 16 different counties.
- 9:05And a population, more than 6 million people.
- 9:09So it's a pretty substantial portion of Michigan and it's
- 9:13Motor Cities for a reason.
- 9:15It's not just Detroit.
- 9:17Most people will think Motown.
- 9:19But it is Motor Cities because the National Heritage Area also includes
- 9:24Flint, the birthplace of General Motors.
- 9:26the capital area around Lansing, which is the origins of RE Olds and Oldsmobile,
- 9:33and goes still further west to include Kalamazoo and Kalamazoo County,
- 9:39where they manufactured yellow cabs.
- 9:42Kalamazoo County is the home of the largest automotive museum in North
- 9:48America, that is the Gilmore Car Museum.
- 9:51And those brown signs, by the way, those are normally affiliated with
- 9:55Parks or national parks, or in our case, the National Park Service
- 9:59or National Heritage Area System.
- 10:01So when you see a brown sign, you generally know that it has something to
- 10:05do with a park, local or state parks.
- 10:07In our case, of course, the National Park Service arrowhead is included
- 10:11on our signs to show our linkage with the National Park Service.
- 10:15And there's currently 14 of those signs in our national heritage area.
- 10:20We hope to have more of them.
- 10:22We actually want to more than double those to about 30 signs.
- 10:25How many sites are there in total?
- 10:27When we first did a census back when the organization was being
- 10:30created, they came up with as many as 10, 000 different sites.
- 10:35Wow.
- 10:36Now, not all of them exist anymore.
- 10:38And we also have a network of what we call wayside signs, where there are small signs
- 10:45held up with posts in various communities around the National Heritage Area.
- 10:49They help tell the story of different sites.
- 10:52Sometimes stuff is still there.
- 10:53Sometimes it's telling a story that is now completely invisible
- 10:57to the public that you have to see the sign and read the story there.
- 11:01And there's 300 more of those.
- 11:03So those brown signs, you know, now entering the Motor City's
- 11:06National Heritage Area, they sort of demarcate the boundary, but how
- 11:10do you know where to go from there?
- 11:11Are there guides on the website that says, hey, if you're in this county or you're
- 11:14in this place, these are the top 10 places to check out along I 75 or whatever it is.
- 11:20How do you guys organize all this to make it easier for those of us that
- 11:24want to travel and check it out?
- 11:25The idea behind the signs is, either points of entry into the National Heritage
- 11:29Area, also to try to strategically place them around where there are clusters
- 11:34of a lot of our partner organizations, attractions, historic sites.
- 11:40Around Detroit, you'll find them when you enter from Canada via
- 11:43one of the bridges or the tunnel.
- 11:45On I 75, you'll find a number of them both on the north and south entry points
- 11:49to the National Heritage Area, and you'll find a number of them along Interstate 94.
- 11:54Around towns like Ypsilanti or Lansing and the Kalamazoo area.
- 12:00And then we actually have a find your road trip, interactive map.
- 12:04Our website has a number of ways that you can do that where organizations
- 12:08are how people can find their way.
- 12:10Uh, there's a pull down menu where you can go by community.
- 12:14You can go by You know, there's a number of ways that you can create your
- 12:19own itinerary and you can kind of mix and match right there on the website.
- 12:24Another way we can do it is by stopping at one of our partner attractions
- 12:28and grabbing our passport guide.
- 12:30And the passport guide is kind of patterned.
- 12:32After the National Park Service passports, you know, you have seen
- 12:36those blue passports that look like your actual travel passport, but
- 12:40in the National Park Service case, you can take those to National
- 12:43Parks and you can get them stamped.
- 12:45You can chronicle your travels.
- 12:47And so, in a similar manner, we have our own Motor Cities passport.
- 12:51We have about 25 different partner attractions that are listed in our
- 12:56passport book, and you can pick them up at any 1 of our attractions.
- 13:00They're outfitted with their stamps, then you can get started and
- 13:03collecting stamps at as many of them as you're interested in visiting.
- 13:07And there's a map inside the passport book as well, so you can track where you
- 13:11are and where you might want to go next.
- 13:14If you were planning a route for yourself, which I'm sure you've done many times
- 13:17before, what would you say are maybe top five places that people should visit?
- 13:22Oh, I wish you wouldn't have said five.
- 13:25All right, top ten then.
- 13:26Well, I'll tell you, I have more than a few.
- 13:29I'd like to break them out geographically.
- 13:31If you're in the city of Detroit, there's more than one.
- 13:34You want to stop at the Ford Paquette Plant Museum, which is
- 13:38the birthplace of the Model T.
- 13:40And it was the factory that most of the early Alphabet cars were made.
- 13:45were created and where the Model T was first conceived and was first made
- 13:50until they outgrew it and then they moved on to the Highland Park plant.
- 13:55And the Highland Park plant, of course, was the one that was famous for being
- 13:58the place where Ford perfected his moving assembly line and was able
- 14:03to produce Model T's You know, one every 30 minutes, but it was created
- 14:08initially at this picket Avenue facility.
- 14:12And that particular place is, you know, almost a poster child for what motor
- 14:17cities can do a success story of things.
- 14:21And it was a handful of people who were enthusiastic about
- 14:25Henry Ford and his story.
- 14:27Took this building, which was falling into disrepair and had a couple tenants,
- 14:31but it was not even involved in the auto industry in any way anymore.
- 14:35And over time purchased parts of the building until they owned
- 14:39the entire building and then started undertaking renovations.
- 14:43To the building to create a museum and over time, they have managed to
- 14:48pull together enough resources that, you know, they're open as a museum.
- 14:53They get 30 to 40, 000 visitors a year.
- 14:56They have 1 of the few collections of the alphabet cars all in 1 place and
- 15:00they have the most amazing tour guides.
- 15:03that can really bring the story to life.
- 15:06And you can see Henry Ford's office.
- 15:09And you can see the so called secret room where he and his engineers and partners
- 15:16literally, in a closed off corner of this building, conceived the idea that
- 15:22became the car that became the Model T, the car built for the masses, the car
- 15:28that literally put the world on wheels.
- 15:30That's in Detroit.
- 15:31You got the Ford Paquette Plant Museum, and not far from there, the Detroit
- 15:36Institute of Arts has the amazing Diego Rivera murals, which were created in the
- 15:421930s, featuring the Ford Rouge plant.
- 15:46Which was the outgrowth from the Highland Park plant.
- 15:49So, if we follow chronologically, the Rouge was the industrial behemoth born
- 15:54of the success of Ford at Highland Park.
- 15:57They made Model Ts up through the late 20s.
- 16:01The Rouge was the next plant in the Ford's progression and was where the Model A
- 16:06that succeeded the T, which was actually the second Model A that Ford produced.
- 16:10The Rouge is that site.
- 16:11And so the Diego Rivera murals were this, it's, it's, it's hard to describe
- 16:16because it literally is four walls that surround you, a lot of symbolism
- 16:20there about the workers and the entrepreneurs, the leadership, Diego
- 16:25Rivera had a political point of view.
- 16:28There's his take on matters, but there's allegory and there's.
- 16:32There's seedlings and there's babies growing from, you know, and there's
- 16:37all kinds of interesting imagery that goes to this industrial behemoth
- 16:42that makes these vehicles, you know, it's, it's an amazing piece of art.
- 16:46It certainly is one of the signature attractions when you visit Detroit.
- 16:51Kiddie corner across the street from the Detroit Institute of Arts is the Detroit
- 16:54Historical Museum, which has a exhibit inside called America's Motor City.
- 17:00You can see a replica of the first car that drove the streets of Detroit, beat
- 17:05Ford's quadricycle by a few months.
- 17:08It was Charles Brady King in March of 1896.
- 17:12And you can see that you can see a portion of the moving assembly line
- 17:16from the Cadillac Clark Avenue plant, and you can see a whole lot of the
- 17:20automotive industry history as it was in the city of Detroit in that museum.
- 17:26So there's kind of a big 3 in the city of Detroit, all very close by,
- 17:30you'd move out to Dearborn about 15 minutes from downtown Detroit.
- 17:35And you have the Henry Ford, which is the Henry Ford Museum of
- 17:39American Innovation, which has.
- 17:41Multiple exhibits on the automobile, they have the automobile in American
- 17:45life, they have a racing exhibit now and Greenfield village, of course, that you've
- 17:50mentioned, you know, which features not just automotive, but the Wright brothers
- 17:54and Thomas Edison and all these amazing American inventors and innovators, you
- 17:59know, the people who literally shaped our culture, shaped our industry.
- 18:05Are responsible for where we are in the world today.
- 18:09A stone's throw on the northern part of their parking lot is the
- 18:11automotive hall of fame, which tells the story of the people that made
- 18:15the international auto industry.
- 18:16The auto hall of fame is unique in the sense that it's not just about
- 18:20the American automobile industry.
- 18:22It's literally about the worldwide automobile industry and telling stories
- 18:26through the eyes of the people that have made vehicles and have been responsible
- 18:31for mobility over the 130 plus years.
- 18:36You can go down the road to Ypsilanti, where there's the Ypsilanti
- 18:39Automotive Heritage Museum, which was in an old Hudson dealership.
- 18:44One of the last Hudson dealerships is now a museum.
- 18:47A stone's throw from there is the Michigan Firehouse Museum, which has an amazing
- 18:52collection of fire apparatus, which were produced by the auto industry.
- 18:57You go up US 23 from the Ypsilanti area and you get to Flint, the
- 19:01birthplace of General Motors.
- 19:03And there's an amazing museum up there known as the Sloan Museum of
- 19:07Discovery, which has an amazing gallery named for Billy Durant, who was the
- 19:12founder of General Motors, one of the founders of Buick prior to that.
- 19:15You can see the history of the automotive industry through a General Motors lens.
- 19:20You proceed west from Flint, and you can get to Lansing, where you can
- 19:24see where Ransom Olds held court.
- 19:27There's the R.
- 19:28E.
- 19:28Olds Transportation Museum in Lansing.
- 19:31You get that story of Oldsmobile, and the R.
- 19:33E.
- 19:34O.
- 19:34brand, and the various vehicles that were made in the Lansing area.
- 19:38Again, you keep going further west, and you get to Kalamazoo, as I
- 19:42mentioned, where they made yellow cabs right through the 1980s.
- 19:46And the Gilmore Car Museum, which is a fantastic place, very similar in
- 19:51the sense to the Henry Ford, where it's a campus and there are multiple
- 19:56museums all in one place where you can see the collection of Mr.
- 20:01Gilmore, who was a CEO of Upjohn Pharmaceuticals and his wife's
- 20:05family were the people who founded that particular company.
- 20:08And as he amassed wealth and was collecting cars, his wife said at some
- 20:14point when there just became too many cars in their garage and around their
- 20:18property, she told him, you need to just put a museum together for this.
- 20:21That's how the Gilmore Car Museum came to be.
- 20:24There's just so much.
- 20:25It's hard to put it into a top 5 or even a top 10.
- 20:28You need our passport book so you can see 25 different places that you can visit.
- 20:34And if you use the map on the website, you can find even more.
- 20:38I think we take signs for granted.
- 20:40There's so many of them that we have to read and kind of process, especially
- 20:43in a hurry when we're driving down the road, you know, there's even a
- 20:46science to signage and there's a signage museum and all this, but you hear these
- 20:50stories, you know, my dad took me to this place when I was a kid, and, oh, if
- 20:56we didn't read every sign in the place.
- 20:59Jokingly, we all look back on that, because we're all kids at some point.
- 21:02We're like, ah, you know, that was, it was such a march that we had
- 21:05to go through on these vacations.
- 21:07I've noticed that on the website, there's a junior rangers program as
- 21:11part of the National Heritage Area.
- 21:13How have you guys designed that program to make these sorts of trips a
- 21:17little bit more exciting Petrelheads?
- 21:20The junior ranger program, it's inspired by and part derived from
- 21:25a junior ranger program that exists within the national park service.
- 21:29And it's a relatively recent creation for us.
- 21:32We wanted to create something that incentivized.
- 21:35Families and children to learn more about the automobile industry and the stories
- 21:41that are told here in our 16 counties of Michigan and learn very specifically
- 21:48about auto barons and the labor story and all of those kinds of things.
- 21:53There was a number of years that it took to kind of develop the program
- 21:57and then the pandemic happened.
- 21:59The Junior Ranger program as it currently sits, if you go to MotorCities.
- 22:04org and you see the menu at the top of the home page, you'll see Junior Ranger
- 22:08and when you click on it, it's basically almost entirely a virtual program.
- 22:13It's the idea of looking at a map and figuring out what cool things
- 22:18or what cool stories are on the map.
- 22:20Right now you click on videos and you watch videos and things.
- 22:23We're going to definitely add a second phase to the junior ranger program.
- 22:27We're going to work on it in league with our partners and our various
- 22:31attractions to make it more hands on and allow for people to travel from
- 22:38site to site attraction to attraction.
- 22:40And have specific things that they can do or they can look for at those sites,
- 22:45but as it is right now, it's still kind of more of a virtual program and it
- 22:48has a number of different activities and things that children can do.
- 22:52There's a part of activities that are geared toward 5 to 7.
- 22:56there's 8 to 10 and then there's age 11 plus.
- 22:59And if you do a certain number of activities and complete them and then
- 23:04show us proof that you completed them, then we can send you a badge that you are
- 23:09an official Motor City's Junior Ranger.
- 23:12I noticed that the Motor City's National Heritage Area has various
- 23:15grants and outreach programs.
- 23:17Let's talk a little bit about those.
- 23:19How do they work and who do they benefit?
- 23:21Grants are a big part of our mission.
- 23:23We received the majority of our funding through the National Park Service
- 23:27and therefore the Department of the Interior and the federal government.
- 23:31We have to be good stewards of the government's resources.
- 23:35We actually have a grant program.
- 23:37There's two different kinds of grants.
- 23:39One is a challenge grant, which are up to 25, 000, and then there's
- 23:44also a mini grant program for smaller projects up to 1, 500.
- 23:48We have kind of a rolling application process where each quarter we accept
- 23:52new applications as the funding each year allows much like the mission that
- 23:58I mentioned earlier with revitalization interpretation and education and
- 24:02heritage tourism, we give priority to projects that fall under those 3 areas.
- 24:08And then we also like to give a preference to projects that
- 24:12exemplify diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility as well.
- 24:17Grants can be anything from construction related projects.
- 24:21Like I said, we helped the Ford plant museum over the years.
- 24:25With parts of their renovations from fixing a very large roof to having an
- 24:30HVAC system added to their building.
- 24:33Recently, the Gilmore Car Museum received a grant for a new visitor orientation
- 24:38and event pavilion, which is outside.
- 24:40They host a number of events that are outdoors.
- 24:43Cruise nights and concerts and, and all kinds of different events
- 24:47and that particular grant will help them to have a key place to convene
- 24:52tour groups and special events.
- 24:54You know, we've also done grants that have helped fund things like documentary films.
- 25:00There was a recent documentary film called Detroit City of Hot Rods and Muscle Cars.
- 25:04It talked in great depth about the car culture of Detroit, which is even within
- 25:10the town that put the world on wheels.
- 25:12You know, we also have a very unique car culture.
- 25:14There's a lot of gearheads and people that tinker in their
- 25:16basements with their classics and they take them out during the week.
- 25:19They go to cruise nights and on the weekends throughout the
- 25:22summer, there's big cruises all over the state of Michigan.
- 25:25This film kind of looks at that through many different eyes.
- 25:28Including women involved in it, disabled people involved with it, Vietnam
- 25:33vets, just lots of different stories of people and their cars and how it
- 25:37becomes part of this interwoven into this fabric of this Detroit car culture.
- 25:41So, the grants are kind of all over, but they're in those 3 key mission areas.
- 25:46And then we also have a variety of programs.
- 25:49That include things like we were part of a coalition of organizations that built
- 25:54a park at the site where in 1932, two and a half years into the Great Depression.
- 25:59At that point, workers at Ford Motor Company convened and marched through
- 26:03Detroit into Dearborn to the Rouge plant.
- 26:07With a list of demands for Henry Ford, mostly around working
- 26:10conditions and fair wages.
- 26:13There was a lot of suffering in the worker community.
- 26:16This march turned out to be a seminal moment in the creation of the UAW.
- 26:21They clashed with Dearborn police and Ford security forces.
- 26:25Five workers were killed.
- 26:27And dozens were injured.
- 26:29We worked with a number of organizations and actually created a park in a
- 26:33very underserved part of Southwest Detroit that not just tells the story,
- 26:38but also creates a place kind of a haven for people in the neighborhood.
- 26:43To enjoy a park, those kinds of things are part of the mission as well.
- 26:48And what I love about this is that it's not all about the
- 26:51travel and the historical sites.
- 26:53It's really the significance of the Motor City's National Heritage Area.
- 26:56And what I came to really appreciate in understanding more about your
- 27:00organization is the time you guys take to elaborate on these stories.
- 27:05And you have three different sections on the website.
- 27:08You've got many voices, one story, making tracks.
- 27:12And then the story of the week.
- 27:13God bless whoever's writing all these things or maybe you're
- 27:15working with, you know, the society of automotive historians.
- 27:18I don't know where you guys find the time, but there's just this treasure
- 27:21trove of information on the website.
- 27:23I hope that we can express to people that it's more than just
- 27:26planning your next road trip.
- 27:27It's checking out these stories and becoming more involved in
- 27:30the intimate backgrounds of these people's lives and how it really
- 27:33changed the face of the world.
- 27:34I'm glad you brought those up many voices.
- 27:37One story is our homage to diversity, equity, and inclusion in the sense
- 27:43that we tell stories that are undertold focusing on our minority communities.
- 27:48So there are stories about the black experience in the automotive industry.
- 27:51There's stories about Hispanic and Latino people in the automotive industry.
- 27:56There's stories that relate to people with disabilities.
- 27:59Obviously, you became familiar with the story of Ralph Teeter with the
- 28:02premiere of the Blind Logic film at the Automotive Hall of Fame recently.
- 28:06That's an amazing story.
- 28:07Before I even learned of the documentary, I had actually, myself, had become
- 28:11familiar with the story of Ralph Teeter.
- 28:13And Ralph Teeter's story is one of the stories that we tell.
- 28:16And this Many Voices, One Story part of our website.
- 28:19There's stories about people with autism.
- 28:22There's a young driver trying to make his way through NASCAR, who is
- 28:26autistic, that's from the Detroit area.
- 28:28He's a young African American and he's autistic.
- 28:31He has a unique set of challenges as he's moving up through the
- 28:34ranks as a race car driver.
- 28:36I had the opportunity to interview him and to talk about his story and his
- 28:40unique perspective and you just can't help but root for someone like that.
- 28:44There's stories that just come from so many different places that
- 28:47are in that particular section.
- 28:49You Then we have making tracks, which is specifically devoted to the African
- 28:54American experience in the automotive industry that tells over a century
- 28:58of stories that a lot of the African American stories in the auto industry have
- 29:02their origins with Henry Ford's 5 day.
- 29:06Which was announced in January of 1914, he revolutionized the industry
- 29:11by saying he was going to more than double the salary of the workers,
- 29:16because it was very difficult work.
- 29:19It was dangerous.
- 29:19It was hot and the turnover of employees.
- 29:23Was just ridiculous.
- 29:24He wanted to deal with that aspect of the turnover part by countering
- 29:29it by saying, if you can meet these criteria, you can make 5 a day for
- 29:35your work in our automotive plants.
- 29:38And this sparked a migration of folks from the American South and from Eastern Europe
- 29:43and from Africa and the Middle East.
- 29:45It completely changed Detroit over a 15 year period from 1914
- 29:50to the stock market crash in 29.
- 29:52Detroit grew unlike any city in the country ever has or frankly ever will.
- 29:58That was a big story and the African American experience
- 30:01was a key part of that.
- 30:03So making tracks Starts with that migration, and then it gets into
- 30:07organized labor and how leadership within the African American community grew
- 30:12into the civil rights movement after World War Two, then there's stories
- 30:17about the advancements and firsts of African Americans in the industry.
- 30:22First professional engineers and first African American automotive
- 30:27manufacturing by companies that were owned by African Americans.
- 30:30The first African American to have a car dealership that was affiliated
- 30:34with one of the big three, all those kinds of stories you'll find in the
- 30:37making track section of motorcities.
- 30:40org.
- 30:41And then what I affectionately refer to as the franchise,
- 30:44which is the story of the week.
- 30:46I guess you could call it a weekly blog.
- 30:48New one comes out every Wednesday.
- 30:50It is distributed through an e newsletter that we put out.
- 30:54It's free.
- 30:55It's called You Ought to Know.
- 30:57Hits your inbox every Wednesday and the franchise within that
- 31:01is our weekly story of the week.
- 31:03These are all over the place.
- 31:04They're basically different stories about some aspect of the automotive
- 31:09industry, whether it's firsts, whether it's specific models, stories of
- 31:14people, it really runs the gamut.
- 31:16Today's story of the week, for example, was about Steve McQueen, the actor, and
- 31:22his automotive collection, and how he channeled driving the famous Bullitt
- 31:26Mustang in the movie Bullitt in the chase scene that everyone can remember, and also
- 31:31being a race car driver on the side and appearing in the movie Le Mans in the 70s.
- 31:37Not only was he an actor and he, he drove in, in his, in the movies, but he also
- 31:41built a collection over his lifetime.
- 31:44Unfortunately, it's life was cut pretty short 1980, only 50 years old when
- 31:49he passed away, but he did accumulate a pretty amazing collection of both.
- 31:53American and foreign cars.
- 31:56And so today's story of the week is about Steve McQueen and his collection.
- 31:59It really runs all over the place and it's put out in the e newsletter every
- 32:03week, and then it also is a big part of our social media because we talk
- 32:08about the story of the week and our social media close to the weekends.
- 32:11We have our weekend alert posts, which.
- 32:13Flag down specific events and things that are going on in
- 32:16the national heritage area.
- 32:17Every weekend during the summer, there are many, many, many events going on.
- 32:21The story of the week is always pretty fun.
- 32:23More than anything that we've done over the years.
- 32:27It's driven the growth of our website, the growth of our social media.
- 32:31Look for it every Wednesday.
- 32:32You also mentioned that your funding in some ways comes from the National
- 32:36Park Service and the Department of Interior and things like that.
- 32:38But also there's an opportunity for us.
- 32:41petrol heads to become involved in the Motor City's National
- 32:44Heritage Area and support the cause.
- 32:46And so on the website there's a donation page, you become a
- 32:49member, all these kinds of things.
- 32:51Is becoming a member of the Motor City's National Heritage Area limited to just
- 32:56Michiganders or can anybody sign up?
- 32:58What are the benefits of becoming a member?
- 33:00Are there different levels or tiers of membership?
- 33:03Can you like break that all down for us?
- 33:05Absolutely.
- 33:06The answer in terms of is it limited to Michiganders?
- 33:08And the answer to that is absolutely not.
- 33:11Anybody can become a member of Motor City's National Heritage Area.
- 33:15Obviously, in most cases, a lot of the benefits are tied to things you
- 33:19can find within the state of Michigan and with our partner attractions.
- 33:23But individual membership starts as low as 30 for an individual family
- 33:28memberships are 65 and then there's some higher levels that go up to 500.
- 33:32but in terms of the benefits, there are 15 of our partner attractions
- 33:37that offer either admission discounts.
- 33:40Museum or gift shop discounts, membership discounts.
- 33:43There's a variety of discounts that are available to people.
- 33:46If you actually used a couple of them, you'd actually more than pay for the
- 33:50amount you paid for the membership.
- 33:51You know, someone who wasn't from the state of Michigan conceivably,
- 33:55if they were planning a trip to the national heritage area,
- 33:58they could buy a membership.
- 34:00And if they visited two or three or even more of our attractions and
- 34:04use their membership card, they can earn some significant discounts.
- 34:08There's also an organizational membership.
- 34:10If you have a, an organization that is about automotive heritage, or
- 34:14it's about local history, people can also become organizational
- 34:18members at different levels.
- 34:20And the benefits of that are that, you know, you can be featured in our social
- 34:25media, our e newsletters, on our website.
- 34:28You can apply for our grants.
- 34:29Now that would be more for people within our organizations in the state
- 34:33of Michigan, but you get recognized as being a partner in all the stories that
- 34:38we tell as an organizational member.
- 34:40It's definitely not limited to people within the state of Michigan.
- 34:43Plus, to be honest, a lot of the people that are our supporters.
- 34:46That become our members, they're not doing it because they're looking
- 34:50for five bucks off admission.
- 34:52They're doing it because they care about the stories we're telling.
- 34:56They do it because we're doing something important that our mission of keeping
- 35:01those stories alive, getting those stories to as many people as possible
- 35:06and sharing that auto and labor heritage.
- 35:08Those are the people that they're going to want to support us.
- 35:11Regardless of what benefits it entails, our social media, our Facebook, we have
- 35:1626, 000 followers on our Facebook page.
- 35:19It goes all over the country and around the world, Europe and Africa
- 35:24and Middle East and South America and beyond that are liking our posts and
- 35:28making comments and sharing their own stories or angles on some of these
- 35:34Detroit, Michigan focused stories.
- 35:36You know, it's become an amazing way to connect with people.
- 35:40Well, it sounds like you guys have come up with a great way to diversify and augment
- 35:45the funding that you have, keep people involved, but not all of it is necessarily
- 35:50digital or just on the website.
- 35:52You guys have got other events and ways to interact with the Motor
- 35:56City's National Heritage Area, right?
- 35:58We do have some special events each year around our auto heritage.
- 36:02We created something about 10 years ago called Michigan Auto Heritage Day.
- 36:06Which is something that we do in conjunction with our state government,
- 36:10the state legislature and the governor's office, where they declare it Michigan
- 36:14auto heritage day, gives us an opportunity to share some different
- 36:17stories and get some visibility around motor cities and our mission.
- 36:22And what we do, we have other programs where we talk about telling
- 36:26the story, the interpretation.
- 36:28We have a speakers Bureau where we have speakers that go out to speak.
- 36:33To local historical societies, they go to libraries, they have a variety of
- 36:38topics from the people that made the auto industry, the different entrepreneurs,
- 36:42their stories about Rosie the Riveter and world war two and willow run and
- 36:48many aspects of the life of Henry Ford or Walter Chrysler or Billy Durant
- 36:53and the creation of General Motors.
- 36:55We also work with our peers and our contemporaries that work with our
- 36:59partners and we do lunch and learn type programs where we try to pick an
- 37:03aspect that might help them do their job better or easier, more efficiently.
- 37:07We also have awards of excellence that we hand out focusing around those key areas.
- 37:12of education, interpretation, revitalization, and tourism.
- 37:16We try to put a spotlight on the work of key partners and individuals who are doing
- 37:22amazing work and keeping this story alive.
- 37:25All right, so Bob, what's next for the Motor City's National Heritage Area?
- 37:29What's the two, five, ten year plan look like?
- 37:32Well, it's a really interesting question because we've just completed our
- 37:36most recent strategic plan, which is going to cover the next 2 or 3 years.
- 37:40You know, we're looking at a lot of things in terms of our partnerships
- 37:45with the various attractions and museums and organizations,
- 37:48international heritage area, as well as ways forward on many fronts.
- 37:53So we've done a lot of inward looking, we've done a lot of sit
- 37:58downs and surveyed our members.
- 38:02And it'll be interesting to see how we're starting to flesh that strategic plan out.
- 38:07And we're starting to create specific tactics and plans attached to it.
- 38:11Some of the stuff is happening behind the scenes and is going to be tied
- 38:16to funding and discussions that we're having at the state level.
- 38:20But there are going to be a number of things that are going to be happening.
- 38:23We did recently receive a grant through the national park foundation that is
- 38:27tied to the upcoming 250th birthday of the country, an inclusive storytelling
- 38:34grant, and we're going to be doing even more work segueing on what we've
- 38:38already been doing with many voices, one story and making tracks and finding
- 38:43a lot of those lesser known stories.
- 38:46That are tied to themes that are among the foci of the 250th birthday of the country.
- 38:52We're starting to roll that out right now, and that's going to be happening,
- 38:55you know, over the next nine to 12 months, there'll be a number of
- 38:59public events and things around that.
- 39:01Suffice it to say, there's going to be a lot going on leading up to 2026.
- 39:05And there's going to be a lot of things specific around.
- 39:09New initiatives and new ways to share these unique auto and
- 39:13labor heritage stories for being a three person organization.
- 39:18We're a small, but mighty nonprofit that does a heck of
- 39:21a lot and has a great impact.
- 39:23You know, we actually say that each year, the programs and the grants
- 39:28and the things that we do to promote heritage tourism into Michigan
- 39:32generates a 489Million dollar economic impact and supports over 5000 jobs.
- 39:38Michigan Technological University And generates 40 million in tax revenue.
- 39:42Small but mighty.
- 39:43So, Bob, we've reached that part of the episode where I'd like to
- 39:45invite our guests to share any shoutouts, promotions, or anything
- 39:48else that we haven't covered thus far.
- 39:50Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing would be, we certainly
- 39:53have mentioned the website.
- 39:54I do something on our social media.
- 39:56That's unique.
- 39:57The first year I was at motor cities, I created about 240 this
- 40:01day and auto heritage posts.
- 40:04And so for most every day of the year, if you go on our social media,
- 40:08predominantly our Facebook page, you will find something from our automotive
- 40:12history for almost every day of the year.
- 40:15And we call it This Day in Auto Heritage.
- 40:17If you want to catch little factoids or little morsels of automotive history on
- 40:21almost a daily basis, our social media is definitely what you want to follow.
- 40:26The hashtag is This Day in Automotive Heritage.
- 40:28The Motor City's National Heritage Area links the world's largest collection
- 40:32of cultural and labor organizations, museums, archives, factories, auto
- 40:37collections, and events to preserve the story of how tinkerers became titans and
- 40:41how they helped build the middle class.
- 40:43While transforming manufacturing worldwide, the Motor Cities National
- 40:47Heritage Area Partnership is a non for profit corporation affiliated
- 40:51with the National Park Service.
- 40:53They preserve, interpret, and promote the region's rich automotive and labor
- 40:57heritage in a way that is diverse.
- 40:59Equitable, inclusive, and accessible.
- 41:02And you can customize your next trip to the Detroit area or make a
- 41:06donation today by logging on to www.
- 41:09motorcities.
- 41:10org or follow them on social media at Motor Cities on Facebook,
- 41:15Instagram, and Twitter along with at Motor Cities NHA on YouTube.
- 41:21And with that, Bob, I can't thank you enough for coming on break
- 41:23fix and sharing the motor cities, national heritage story with us.
- 41:27The saying is you need to take the time to stop and smell the roses.
- 41:31But I think in this case, we need to take the time to pull off and check out
- 41:35what's connected to those Brown signs.
- 41:37Absolutely.
- 41:38I'm glad that we were able to do this and I'm hoping that we hit some
- 41:41new audiences with this podcast.
- 41:43Thanks so much, Eric.
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