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Why Are Chinese Nationals Suddenly Coming Through Our Southern Border · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  have a conversations podcast and as an example, my guest a Zeus Rodriguez,
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  long time served this country as a member of the United States Border Patrol as
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  an agent and jeseus welcome, Thanks as always, appreciate you serving the country.
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  How are you you certifying yourself? Good morning, I'm doing well.
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  I guess. I guess. It's cool where you are compared to what's happening
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  to the to the east of you. We're gonna hit We're hitting crazy temperatures
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  over here, but you have the dry heat over there. Yes, we
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  have the of the dry heat it's only one hundred and probably eight, but
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  no humidity. There you go, there you go. I used to live
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  in it all the time. J Zeus. Tell me something, if you
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  were, if you were a new a young man looking for a career,
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  would you be looking at the US Border Patrol right now if you kind of
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  had that mindset, or would there the state of things as they are as
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  border policy is right now, would it would it persuade you to choose another
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  career path? Um? I don't think so now. I always um my
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  always, My goal was always to get into law enforcement and the beauty of
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  the of the border patrol believed or non customers that you're out in the in
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  the desert, you're out in the in the mountains, in the northern borders
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  sectors. So if you like being outdoors and and you like in some sectors
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  and in some stations they have you know, like to the northern border they
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  may have achea snowmobiles, and of course they have a TVs, and like
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  on the southern border, there's a lot of stations that use both ATV's,
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  motorcycles, horses. So there's a lot of varying various things that you can
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  get yourself, um and traded and then work and as your career starts to
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  to progress them. It was always a good career. I you know,
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  I missed a lot of the people that I worked with, But you know,
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  the politics are always We're always part of it. Even when I first
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  came in, it was it was, it was part of it, and
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  we were under old ions. So that tells you a lot. Is Border
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  Patrol facing the same recruiting problems that the Armed Services are facing. Yes,
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  yes, um, they're having a hard time attracting agents to to sign up
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  and to come and join the agency. A lot of it have to do
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  and it's always been, it's always been this way that you have agency that
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  apply from let's say the back East or even Midwest, and they have no
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  family ties in the border areas like in Texas or California, Arizona, New
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  Mexico, and so they don't have those familial sides. So it's hard on
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  families, or hard on on young families to uproot everybody, everything and everybody
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  they know and then move to let's say Aho Arizona, where there's really there's
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  there's nothing out there, So it's hard, I mean, and so you
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  have, you know, you have to have that special person that's and the
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  couple has to be you know, in lockstep to to make that move into
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  into some those areas. Yeah, is how if you were to pie chart
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  and we were to just say morale right now based on the men and women
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  you know that are still serving, how much of the morale is based on
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  policy things they cannot do anything to control, how much of it is based
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  on the actual challenges of the job, and how much of it is based
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  on the pressures of it coming home. I think the morale and pressing was
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  had hit rock bottom um towards last this year, at the end of this
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  year and until last year, when you know, there was they were not
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  getting the information that they were that they were being given on all these illegal
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  aliens that were coming in, and so you could see it and in talking
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  to the agents, you know, the morale was as at its bottom,
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  it was hitting it was bottoming out. And in my conversations with a lot
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  of the agents that would run into and talk to UM, I common home
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  it has been what I had heard from my previous journeyment when I first started,
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  that the pension and will swing one way for a while and they'll swing
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  back the other way. So just do your job. And you know that's
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  that's above our pay grade. We can't control that those policies and the decisions
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  those policymakers make in DC, whether it's you know, it's a detriment to
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  us and doesn't it affects us and how we do our job. So I
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  think now what I've seen from the from the agencies that I think they've already
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  kind of like and asked the strong our hands up in the air and said,
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  okay, well, what else you want me to do? Now?
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  What you know? What does it you want me to do? Coming up
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  to twelve minutes after the hour, A sus Rodriguez US Border Patrol retired our
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  guests this morning, Hey, is this You introduced me to something I didn't
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  know about Border Patrol Search, Trauma and Rescue. It's called bore Star that
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  rolled out in nineteen ninety eight. Were you in the agency then or were
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  you new to the agency when this thing came out? That was still if
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  you talk to the old timers, that was still a trainee in nineteen ninety
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  eight, I had already had almost five years in Yeah, still training you
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  were still a rookie in their mind. Yeah, yep, I still was.
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  I was a lot to learn, but yeah, they've been around since
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  around that time, and they are they are a big service in the areas
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  that they're that they're um that they're working because they are the MTS paramedics and
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  they don't not only provide you know, um medical to to the ages,
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  but to anybody accidents, uh, you know, you name it. They've
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  been involved and they had and they still have I'm sure a technical mountain technical
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  team that they go up there and that they need they get called on.
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  They can go up there and and pull people down off the mountain that they're
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  if they're injured. And so, I mean, it's it's a it's a
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  rough it's a rough academy for those guys because they have to do a lot.
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  But they're very dedicated group of guys and they do provide a very very
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  valuable service and they see a lot of lives out there. Give us an
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  idea of how these units are formed and then uh spaced out? Is there
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  one bour Star unit per you know, uh sector or how does that work?
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  Now? They have multiple units work through throughout the shifts and you can
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  have them deployed to certain areas where there's a lot of traffic coming in,
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  like right now we're looking at yesterday in the Yaho area, it was probably
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  one hundred and twelve one hundred and thirteen uh air temperature. So they're out
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  in those areas where you know you're you're either um the temperatures are extremely hot
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  like that, or you're having a lot of rescues of illegals out there in
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  the in the desert area. So they're out there kind of waiting and looking
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  to see if they get called to respond to to rescues like any Like I
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  said, even agents and and so agents can fall out just as much as
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  in the legal alien can because you know, the humidity and or seeing the
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  heat and then the lack of water that they may intake. So they're out
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  there and they're out deployed to certain areas, and so they you know,
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  they provide that that medical expertise out there. Hey, Zeus, I lived
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  in Arizona for about twenty years. I know well the Arizona heat. I
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  know well the deserts and the challenges that it presents. I'm just curious do
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  traffickers care or do they do they try to get more people across the border
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  when the weather's hot, knowing that there might not be as much resistance,
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  or how does that factor in. Well, let's go back a step for
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  us, and so back in the day, and I see when I was
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  working, they would give them as veteran pills. The smuggles give them as
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  veteran pills, which would make them really hyped up, and it would walk
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  a lot faster to avoid you know, being apprehended. And of course in
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  the desert our year, they would only carry like for the most part,
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  they only carry like one gallon of water, and so they would walk,
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  you know, you would have them walked twenty plus miles sometimes, so a
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  lot of times you have them fall you know, fallen out or and or
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  going into a medical emergency were you know, unforced. Some of them would
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  just die, you know, because of the combination of all of that.
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  And so no, there's no they don't care about them now pressing in today's
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  um environment, the way it's set up from from from DC. Uh,
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  you know, they they just come across the border, they find a find
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  a road and walk it and they run into an agent and they just give
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  up and so if you would, if you were to see them, what
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  they would look like after let's say a day or two walk in the desert.
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  Uh, you know, when I worked, they looked like they had
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  gone through you know. I mean it was it was they were tired,
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  they were run down. I mean it was it was you know, you
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  had to give them water and and sometimes treat them medically and blisters in the
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  whole nine yard. Today it's not even like that. They look like they've
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  been walking in a nice cooler conditioning mall for about you know, like an
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  hour or so. They don't look stressed out at all. And I Heearts
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  Radio station ZEUS. ROD Radio spent more than two decades serving our country at
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  the southern border. Is now retired from the US Border Patrol and joins US
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  Jesus. We were just talking in the break about the Supreme Court basically handing
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  a big win to the Biden administration. The ruling wasn't closed, it was
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  eight one. It was US versus Texas found that states don't have standing to
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  challenge the narrowing of immigration and customs enforcement. And I was asking you if
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  stuff like that ever filters its way down to agents on the border. No,
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  not really. I mean we're going our marching orders from from the administration
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  and from our higher ups in DC and even from its down to the sectors
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  and it goes from there. So you just basically or do whatever they're the
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  directive is given to you. Um in previous administrations when we had those those
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  uh, all these groups of people coming in and I'll go back to you
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  know years where we had a lot of Brazilians coming in and they kept coming
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  in because they were getting cut loose. And as soon as they stopped it
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  and started sending them back to the Brazil and started deporting them formally deported them,
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  the stakes you know, stopped. So you know, each administration that
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  comes into power, does you know, does things a little bit differently.
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  What about the state administrations, Zeus, We've we've loosely talked about Texas in
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  Arizona primarily, and I'm just curious, based on any connections you have with
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  with say, any agents or former agents that worked in the Texas or California
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  sectors, what difference is there from state to state. Texas has been very
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  proactive of sending the state National Guard down there, and Arizona has gone the
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  other way with the new governor Katie Hobbs. How different is it from state
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  to state? For you guys, it's different because you you have agencies that
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  may um pull a vehicle over. And in some agencies they will call you
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  and say, hey, I'm sitting on you know x amount of people,
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  uh, you know, can you come and take them? And some agencies
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  won't even both anyone do that. They'll just cut them loose, uh,
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  you know. And in some instances they have to cut a loose because the
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  agents are so busy up there that they can't get to that, you know,
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  that vehicle stop and the system the sheriff deputy or the or the the
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  trooper, and so they have to In a lot of instances they would cut
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  them loose. At the height of of all this illegal aliens crossing pressing,
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  some of the agents are saying where they're cutting vehicles loose on a nightly basis
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  because they could not get to the number of vehicle stops that were being made
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  and that people were being encountered, you know, and of course they're suspective
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  of being illegally in the country. But the agent gets their determined that and
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  then you know, they're illegal, but you know, the troopers and the
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  deputies knew what you know, who they were dealing with naw instances, and
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  so that's what they would call. Last thing I want to ask you about.
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  I've got three separate stories sitting in front of me about Russian and Chinese
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  nationals in record numbers at the southern border trying to get into the country.
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  Focusing on the Chinese, a guy with the Gatestone Institute, a senior fellow
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  named Gordon Chang, said the Chinese coming in are really disturbing. Packs of
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  Chinese males, military age, unattached to family groups, pretending not to speak
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  English, are likely saboteurs coming into the country for a first of war with
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  Asia. Are you hearing anything about an increase in Chinese nationals coming in?
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  Just thats what they say is getting hit pretty good with Chinese nationals, um
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  and Uh. I think some of the some of the other sectors are getting
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  hit with it as well. And you're right, and we're right. Most
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  of those, most of what I've been told that they're encountering out there are
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  single males, not only from China but from from other countries. There are
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  the family groups, but a lot of them are all single males, all
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  right, So tell me this just real quickly here as a matter of protocol,
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  when let's say you and your your fellow agents are noticing this influx of
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  this particular demographic and this particular nationality and they are absolutely enemies of this country,
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  do you treat them any differently in terms of patting them down, looking
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  for things, inquiring, um, is there anything that's handled in a different
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  manner? How do you do a good They're search of them completely. You're
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  looking for pocket trash, we would call it, looking for slips of paper
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  or any kind of information. You're looking inside the loops of their belt by
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  anything that they could hide anything. And then you, of course you would
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  get the into agents involved, so they could be brief them and and you
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  know, and go that route and try to pull up as much information as
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  you can, you know about them and their motive, travel, how they
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  got there, everything that you could use, you know that you could use
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  to for information. But yeah, you would really do a very there throw
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  search. I mean it's you're going inside their shoes and you're looking for a
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  lot of for pocket trash, looking for anything that would help you, you
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  know, identifying more tattoos, anything of that instrument that I always enjoy our
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  visit. Jesus, thank you so very much. My best to you and
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  your family. Okay, take care, sir, Thank you. Jesus Rodriguez
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  with us this morning. Okay, story confirmed his sources. He's still very
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  well connected down there. Just trust me when I tell you that they are
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  encountering Chinese males singles in large numbers. Now, why would that be?
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  Twenty seven minutes after the hour, It's The Morning Show with Preston Scott