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Best of Chuck & Buck 4-27 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 3: Good morning. I think we're good to go.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome everyone, it is Monday morning. Thanks for sticking with us. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: some more technical difficulties. I am a pullback the curtain
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  Speaker 3: guy in radio. We're not supposed to be bosses get
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  Speaker 3: angry when hosts do this. But apparently were still don't
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  Speaker 3: have all of the ghosts out of the machinery from
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  Speaker 3: the changeover to YouTube, from the power outage, the fire
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  Speaker 3: that we had a few weeks ago, and so from
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  Speaker 3: day to day we're not exactly sure what it is
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  Speaker 3: we're operating with. We seem to be okay once the
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  Speaker 3: week starts, but apparently this whole weekend thing throws us
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  Speaker 3: for a loop here at Sports Radio ninety three point
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  Speaker 3: three KJRFM with all of the changes that were made
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  Speaker 3: to our system, and then we're still operating off of
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  Speaker 3: the generator outside and so who even knows if we
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  Speaker 3: had another power outage or some sort of breakdown overnight.
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea, but when we got ready to
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  Speaker 3: start the show, there was no The equipment wasn't working
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  Speaker 3: to get the show started. So now it seems like
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  Speaker 3: we're okay. I'm not going to sit here and harp
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  Speaker 3: on this all morning long because we have a lot
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  Speaker 3: to do. We have a lot to discuss today. But
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  Speaker 3: that is what's going on. So hopefully this is the
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  Speaker 3: last time that we put you through this, that we
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  Speaker 3: have to go through this. But yes, more technical difficulties
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  Speaker 3: they I mean, I think we went like ten years
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  Speaker 3: without having hardly any technical difficulties in terms of getting
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  Speaker 3: on the show, and now we've had to deal with
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  Speaker 3: it twice in a week.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun.
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  Speaker 3: No, oh no, fun is not the thing. I know.
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  Speaker 6: I was trying to be positive. It's definitely not panic inducing.
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  Speaker 6: When I look at you and you look at me
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  Speaker 6: and say I can't hear anything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm like oh.
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  Speaker 2: And then you say I'll just start talking.
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  Speaker 6: I say, yeah, try that, and then I can't hear
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  Speaker 6: you talking, and I think, well that's not good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the mics wouldn't go on, and then
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  Speaker 3: they would go on. So I didn't know what was happening.
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  Speaker 3: But we seem to be okay. Now hopefully that is
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  Speaker 3: the case. And so we will dive in here on
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  Speaker 3: this Monday not worry about the little stumble we've had
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  Speaker 3: coming out of the blocks. So we've got a big
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  Speaker 3: draft show coming your way today, of course, so we're
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  Speaker 3: going to recap the draft weekend. But we also had
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  Speaker 3: a Mariners team that pulled off a sweep on the
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  Speaker 3: road against the Saint Louis Cardinals. Three close games, but
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  Speaker 3: they pulled them all off three wins, which gives them
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  Speaker 3: a four game winning streak, now just a game under
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  Speaker 3: five hundred, so all but erased that month long, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sort of rough start that they got off to. I
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  Speaker 3: think they were also like, I can't hear anything, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is the season started yet No, not.
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  Speaker 2: Till April twenty third o.
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  Speaker 3: Red light's not on. They're telling me the season started
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  Speaker 3: with my red.
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  Speaker 2: Lights supposedly something I'm supposed to be hearing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they were hooked up to a generator themselves.
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  Speaker 3: That's the beginning of the year. But yeah, and it smelled.
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  Speaker 3: It smelled. There was a gaseous fume that was coming
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  Speaker 3: out of America today.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: True, we at least they don't have that today, but
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  Speaker 2: they're nearly.
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  Speaker 3: Out of that hole. If they win tonight, they get
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  Speaker 3: back to the five hundred mark, and it's as if
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  Speaker 3: we can kind of start anew with one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: thirty two games to go, which I suppose is fine
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  Speaker 3: by me. But a lot of the things that we've
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  Speaker 3: been waiting on are now starting to come together. And
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  Speaker 3: yesterday it was another narrow victory over the Cardinals three
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  Speaker 3: to two, and Rob Reschneider ends up being our hero.
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  Speaker 3: So he's obviously starting to hit now. It's a completely
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  Speaker 3: different feeling now when ref Schneider comes to the plate
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  Speaker 3: compared to what it used to be. He hits the
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  Speaker 3: solo home run in pinch hitting fashion and it ends
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  Speaker 3: up being enough for a three to two victory yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: and so the ref Nider. That alone is a big story.
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  Speaker 3: He comes through in the big moment, gets the team
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  Speaker 3: the sweep, bullpen comes through all weekend long, and so
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  Speaker 3: here we are nearly healed from all that ailed us
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  Speaker 3: for the first part of the season. But how ref
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  Speaker 3: Schneider got to the home run is the fascinating part.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, thank Goodness for this challenge. It doesn't sound,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose, like all that big of a deal. If
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  Speaker 3: you were to tell somebody who wasn't a baseball fan
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  Speaker 3: that you get two challenges per game, that they were like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you only get two, and as long as you keep
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  Speaker 3: getting him right, you know, you don't lose them. But
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  Speaker 3: if you lose two challenges, then you don't have them
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  Speaker 3: for the rest of the game. Oh well, why don't
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  Speaker 3: you get ten? You know, why couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: You If they're wrong, shouldn't you be able to challenge it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Why can't you keep challenging? So I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: if anybody that doesn't really follow baseball would think that
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  Speaker 3: that was that significant of a rule change, but man,
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  Speaker 3: this thing obviously changes the outcome of games. And it's
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  Speaker 3: also showing you the impact that bad umpiring has on
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  Speaker 3: games as well. They're saying that the ref Schneider call
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  Speaker 3: that he challenged. Now keep in mind, earlier in the
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  Speaker 3: at bat, the umpire already blew one and Ref Schneider
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  Speaker 3: didn't challenge it, and so he blows another one. He
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  Speaker 3: couldn't wait to punch out Rob Reschneider for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 3: John bacon Is, the umpire's name, had a terrible day,
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  Speaker 3: apparently had seven calls overturned by the catchers alone in
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  Speaker 3: the contests, and we were operating with just one challenge
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  Speaker 3: remaining because JP blew one early in the game, and
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  Speaker 3: the worst possible scenario to challenge, he decided to do that,
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  Speaker 3: and so you're down to one challenge. But it's also,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're late in the game. So Ref Sneider
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  Speaker 3: lets the first one go, and then the second one
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  Speaker 3: was six inches outside. Apparently it was the worst blown
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  Speaker 3: called strike that was overturned by a challenge. It's the
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  Speaker 3: history of the challenge, okay, perfect, and so Ref Schneiders like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, well, I'm not going to strike out because
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  Speaker 3: of you. You do fis, So he does challenge the
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  Speaker 3: second one. The call gets overturned because the ball was
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  Speaker 3: a county over from the strike zone and then ref
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  Speaker 3: Schneider launches a home run wins the game. So thanks
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  Speaker 3: to the ABS challenge system, you know, Otherwise Rev Snyder
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  Speaker 3: just going back to the bench and we just complained
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  Speaker 3: about the official and who knows how the game ends,
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  Speaker 3: but now we at least have the challenge system. We
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  Speaker 3: had one challenge remaining, even though JP almost blew it
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  Speaker 3: twice for us, and Reth Schneider ends up getting that
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  Speaker 3: Golden's second opportunity and hits a home run. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this rule is just it's just game changing, just period,
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  Speaker 3: just game changing. And they still don't have their arms
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  Speaker 3: wrapped around how we're going to do this going forward,
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  Speaker 3: but Rob Refsneider may have given us an indication of
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  Speaker 3: how it should be done.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it was interesting too because the I in
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  Speaker 6: several games when we end up with two challenges, not
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  Speaker 6: that oh gosh, here we are at the end, and
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  Speaker 6: why are we going you know, why are we finishing
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  Speaker 6: a game with two challenges left? Because we've used him
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  Speaker 6: throughout the game and we've gotten right and that's okay,
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  Speaker 6: But in that sense, to have the one and to
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  Speaker 6: be able to have it to be Hughes, I just
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  Speaker 6: thought to myself, how is it that we played this
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  Speaker 6: game just last year where this outcome would have this,
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  Speaker 6: where this outcome would have.
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  Speaker 2: Been totally different.
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  Speaker 6: Isn't that crazy though, because I mean to think that
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  Speaker 6: would have been a completely different outcome.
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  Speaker 3: Could have been yeah, one thing, Yeah, could have been yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And there were other opportunities and even the strategy of
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  Speaker 3: when do I challenge and when do I don't check on?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, major league getters are having a really difficult
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  Speaker 3: time with it. I think JP's got the best I
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  Speaker 3: on our team, but even he's having a difficult time
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  Speaker 3: with it and on when to do it. And I'll
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  Speaker 3: tell you when not to do it. When JP did it, no,
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  Speaker 3: like nobody on base early in the count, and like
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  Speaker 3: you're not that important, dude. We want you on base.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but just because you over challenge,
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  Speaker 3: you challenge something early in the count doesn't mean you're
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  Speaker 3: getting on base. And you just blew a challenge for us.
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  Speaker 3: And now we've got to be careful with that thing.
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  Speaker 3: We can't be as aggressive as we wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: because you picked the absolute wrong time to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I think it's going to take
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  Speaker 3: a while before teams figure out how to use this.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about it with Cal in spring training, and
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  Speaker 3: Cal said, I think we're going to have to use
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  Speaker 3: it situationally. We're gonna have to save them for when
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  Speaker 3: there are run scoring opportunities, or I would think at
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  Speaker 3: bare minimum, like Refsnighter proved, all right, I'm gonna let
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  Speaker 3: that one go because it's so early in the count.
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  Speaker 3: I want to challenge that, and I know we're late
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  Speaker 3: in the game and I probably should challenge that, but
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  Speaker 3: we only have one left, and so I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to challenge that one, but I'm not going to strike
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  Speaker 3: out on it. And so I think that gave us.
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  Speaker 3: I think we got a little bit of a lesson
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  Speaker 3: learned there. Yeah that even late in the contest, do
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  Speaker 3: we really want to challenge something early in account No,
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  Speaker 3: with nobody on base, and then maybe take it away
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  Speaker 3: from a situation where you could have a robust ending,
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  Speaker 3: you could have bases juiced, and now you don't have
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  Speaker 3: a challenge to use. So the way that a few
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  Speaker 3: people have been using it, I think even maybe Dom
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  Speaker 3: had one too early in the contest and he ended
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  Speaker 3: up winning it. But it's like, dude, there's it's zero zero,
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  Speaker 3: what are you challenging for early in the count I
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  Speaker 3: think we learned a lesson from Rob Rethschneider on one
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  Speaker 3: way to use it and a lesson from JP on
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  Speaker 3: when not to use it. And hopefully the Mariners will
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  Speaker 3: have a conversation and show, you know, have a slide presentation.
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  Speaker 3: This is when you use it, this is when you
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  Speaker 3: don't use it. And so I think we learned a
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  Speaker 3: lesson from ref Schneider yesterday, not just one of baseball.
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  Speaker 6: No, I completely agree, because yeah, it should be in
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  Speaker 6: a situation where that's going to put you on base
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  Speaker 6: for a walk, or that's going to help you avoid
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  Speaker 6: striking out, not in a situation where oh, okay, now
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  Speaker 6: I'm one oh instead of oh one like that, that's
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  Speaker 6: just you know, you could.
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  Speaker 3: Get another back.
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  Speaker 2: I just yeah, yeah, unless.
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  Speaker 6: It's egregious, unless it's just like that, like the call
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  Speaker 6: that actually got that he challenged that god overturned, where
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  Speaker 6: it's so far that it's like, okay, that was so
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  Speaker 6: obviously a ball. And then in that case, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: if you want to help your count and you and
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  Speaker 6: there's zero zeroed out to anyone that that is an
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  Speaker 6: actual ball.
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  Speaker 3: Then that's different if it bounces to the place. Yeah exactly, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: go ahead and use it challenge, Yes, but but you
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  Speaker 3: know just when, just JP screwing that up led to
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  Speaker 3: everybody having to be more careful going forward, and and so,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, it ended up helping win the game.
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  Speaker 3: But it also may have illustrated to the Mariners and
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  Speaker 3: everybody else in baseball how when to use the challenge
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  Speaker 3: and when not to use the challenge since you only
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  Speaker 3: do have a precious too. But it also showed us.
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  Speaker 3: The third thing is just what an impactful rule change
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  Speaker 3: this is, because it completely changed the outcome of that
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  Speaker 3: at bat, which ended up being the game winning run
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  Speaker 3: scored in the contest. I had planned to have eleven
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  Speaker 3: to twelve more minutes to talk about this, but now
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  Speaker 3: we are out of time in the first segment. But
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  Speaker 3: it sounds like we're good. We're underway. I'll get to
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  Speaker 3: the headlines at seven o five. We also have an
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  Speaker 3: NFL draft to recap to do today, so we're going
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  Speaker 3: Monday Morning quarterback style today. Hugh Millen from eight to
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  Speaker 3: ten will analyze all the picks from over the weekend
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  Speaker 3: for the Seahawks. Also, Greg Bell will be with us
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  Speaker 3: at seven oh five. We have ABC's of the m
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  Speaker 3: so I'll be able to get into a little more
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  Speaker 3: of this Mariner stuff, other things beyond Rob Refsnyder's home
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  Speaker 3: run yesterday, But it'll obviously be a pivotal part of
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  Speaker 3: our conversation in our next segment, because it'll be Mariners
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  Speaker 3: Morning After coming your way here on Chuckin' Buck Monday
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  Speaker 3: Morning Blues Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure Cardinal fans Cardinal players feel like we should have
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  Speaker 3: had at least one of those three games. Well, sorry
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not Yeah, sorry, not sorry, Yeah, suck it sitting.
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  Speaker 2: You're all really nice.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, if my aunt had a Wiener, she'd be
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  Speaker 3: my uncle. Isn't that the pretty sure? That's the line.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Mariner's taking on the Cardinals on Sunday, coming
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  Speaker 3: off that crazy wacky thing that we saw Saturday, that
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  Speaker 3: back and forth contest, And I was gonna put this
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  Speaker 3: in ABC's of the MS, but I'll just go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and put it here in Mariners Morning After. We don't
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  Speaker 3: ever win that game. Yeah, I didn't not feel that
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  Speaker 3: way Saturday, like we were doing draft coverage, so I
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  Speaker 3: didn't get to watch it. I was pretty much just
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  Speaker 3: kind of getting updates, and you know, during commercial breaks,
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  Speaker 3: I'd go see and the score just kept changing and
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  Speaker 3: fluctuating back and forth. Am I when is the last
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  Speaker 3: time that we won a game like this where there
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  Speaker 3: were two different occasions where the Mariners rallied from a
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  Speaker 3: multiple run deficit, they had four stolen bases on the day,
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  Speaker 3: they gave up five home runs in the contest and
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  Speaker 3: ended up on the road somehow winning eleven to nine
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday on a day that Brian Wu couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: anybody out. I mean, it was the strangest damn events
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  Speaker 3: that maybe have taken place in a game so far
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  Speaker 3: this year. And I just thought to myself, we don't
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  Speaker 3: Mariners don't win games like this. This is not the
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  Speaker 3: type of game we win.
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  Speaker 6: No, And you kind of thought too, Yeah, like, okay,
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  Speaker 6: We'll just going to chalk it up to Wu having
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  Speaker 6: a bad day and we move on and let's go
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  Speaker 6: to Sunday and we're going to get the series win
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  Speaker 6: hopefully on Sunday. Because we were watching There's there was
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  Speaker 6: five iron me and another dad watching it in the
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  Speaker 6: stands in Jehelus during the softball game and I had
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  Speaker 6: it streaming on my phone, and then after they went
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  Speaker 6: up nine to seven, I was like, okay, I got
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  Speaker 6: to focus on this, Matt. You keep it going on
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  Speaker 6: your phone and then let us know what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: And then he's updating us and we're like huh, huh yeah,
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  Speaker 6: and then huh. So I came home yesterday and immediately
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  Speaker 6: put the last two innings on.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I got to see this in person
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  Speaker 2: of what I missed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, but nice, nice win there and then a
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  Speaker 3: chance for the sweep yesterday, and this was more like
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  Speaker 3: a Mariner game that we're used to. The Cardinals again,
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  Speaker 3: their runs scoring primarily from the solo home run, exclusively
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  Speaker 3: yesterday from the solo home run. So Emerson Hancock I
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  Speaker 3: thought was terrific yesterday. I know, he gave up seven
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  Speaker 3: hits and six innings, but other than the two home runs,
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  Speaker 3: I think five bloops. And then he pitched out of
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  Speaker 3: the bad luck that he'd had as the Cardinals just
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  Speaker 3: kept finding infield singles and mis hits down the third
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  Speaker 3: base line that went for double went for a double,
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  Speaker 3: and so he pitched his way around that kept the
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  Speaker 3: team in the ball game. And then the Mariners tied
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  Speaker 3: in the ninth inning, they go to that lefty righty
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  Speaker 3: pinch hit situation, uh, and they decided to pinch hit
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  Speaker 3: with Luke Rayley. And to me, yes, this is this
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  Speaker 3: is fine. Ref Sneyder's starting to click a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and Rayley's not on fire anymore. And so to me,
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  Speaker 3: that was the right move yesterday. Let rob reth Schneider
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  Speaker 3: lead off that inning. There was a challenge as ref
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  Speaker 3: Snyder decided to let one bad call go from the
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  Speaker 3: home plate umpire, but not the second, the one that
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  Speaker 3: would have punched him out. And that umpire really seemed
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  Speaker 3: like he wanted to pump punch him out of that
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  Speaker 3: at bat. And so he got a second chance to
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  Speaker 3: try to make good. In my goodness, did he get
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  Speaker 3: a hold of one. There comes with three two h
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  Speaker 3: lefty out to left.
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  Speaker 4: Field and gone.
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  Speaker 7: Rob Refsneider a pinch hit, go ahead home run to
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  Speaker 7: take the lead in the ninth in.
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  Speaker 3: Ain't arnaults on the call. Mariner's TV ref Snyder's a
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  Speaker 3: second home run as a Mariner. That one is a
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  Speaker 3: game winner. As the Ems close it out, Jose Ferrer
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: gets the call and the ninth inning and gets the save.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Munos had pitched the previous two nights, so they decide
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: to implement Jose Ferrer. I think you did notice by
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: the way, that maybe a little more emphasis on, you
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: know what, let's try to win these games, yeah, rather
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: than just worry about preserving bulpen arms that shouldn't be
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: tired at this time of the year. And based off
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: of the usage now, they're still they weren't gonna go
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: with Munos on three days, and I'm fine with it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: We weren't gonna go with Brash on three days. But
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: certainly it was a weekend where you were hovering around
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: the lead or had the lead throughout the entire weekend
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: and you saw multiple usages. Bizarre to win an inning
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: in a third, yes, yesterday, far Air came back from
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: a what twenty nine pitch outing the day before to
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: pitch that, and everybody look fine, I don't want to
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: overdo it, but I think obviously there was a little
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: bit of a change of mindset from Dan Wilson.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: It is okay to have a pitcher play a third
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: or go in for a third of an inning and
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: then come.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Back for the next inning.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: That's okay, Yeah, I mean you got to loosen up
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: one of these rules, and that seemed to be one
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: of the rules that they loosened up over the weekend
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: and it results in three straight wins. And I realized
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: for air Camp pitch today and Bizardo's not going to
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: pitch today, and I would imagine Spire's not going to
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: pitch today. But Munjos and Brash, yeah, should both be
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: available today. And hopefully we'll get a Luis Castillo long outing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: More on that in a moment, but three to two
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: ends up being your final score. The Mariners win. They're
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: now just a game under five hundred with their four
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: game winning streak. Here's Dan Wilson after this sterling sweep
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: of a weekend.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: Well, what can you say, A great, great way to
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: cap off this series, what a you know, outstanding series
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: for us today.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: You know, Emerson just uh.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: He just continues to pitch and you know he went
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: after it and gave us six strong.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Turned it over to look to the bullpen.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Bullpen again continues to to throw the.
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: Ball extremely well and uh, you know, we was able
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: to slam the door on the Cardinals today.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: I think offensively, you know, as we talked about before,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: you know, it's a momentum game.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: And when they score and then.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: We come right back and score, that makes it, uh,
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: you know, a lot tougher on them, and and we
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: were able to do that twice.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: And then you know, getting ref in.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: There and you know, putting up a really good at
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: bat with the abs challenge, just an incredible av there
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: sequencing and uh giving us the huge.
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: Lift right there to to get us ahead and then
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: turn the ball over to Twokey there.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Just all around good win and you know, we played
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: a couple of close ones here.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Actually all three were close.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: You know, the first in the last were a little
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: bit more low scoring, a lot more pitching, but some
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: good baseball and keep Keith Moleman and rollins with Minnesota.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson after the three to two winn and after
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: the sweep in Saint Louis. Yeah, they were all close
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: and the big hero good to see Rob Refsnyder with
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the home run ends up being the game winner. Cal
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: also homered yesterday. That's six on the season for him.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: He's got his batting average up over two hundred. As
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: we discussed on Friday, Josh Naylor, who did not play
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: yesterday because of a quad entry. Hopefully that's going to
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: be all right. But he got his batting average up
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: over two hundred. And again, no one satisfied with two
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: hundred batting averages from cal Raleigh and from Josh Naylor.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: But you had to get over two hundred before you
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: can get up near two fifty and beyond.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: That's the way it works.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And Julio is up to two fifty. So they are
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: certainly out of their ice cold starts that they had
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: to this season. And lo and behold, we're starting to
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: win more consistently because of that production in the middle
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: of the order. So it's a sweep in Saint Louis
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: over the Cardinals and not much rest here for a
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: team that's played a lot of baseball so far this year.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: They'll play their thirtieth game of the year tonight. They'll
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: be in Minnesota against the Twins. First pitches at four forty.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Luis Castillo starts for the Mariners. I believe it's pre Lip.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: It might be pre Lip Connor Prelip from the Minnesota Twins.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know much about him. He's had one start
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: in his major league career. He only lasted four innings.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: The one thing I do know about him is that
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: he has left handed Oh but suddenly that doesn't seem
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: as much of a death sentence as it did a
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago with ref Snyder starting to come
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: out of it. Even Garver's had some good at bats
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: here as of late, and Connor Joe had I really
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: big at bat yesterday in the contest. And so you're
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: gonna see the righty's implemented in this game, I'm sure
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: as we get ready to take on the Minnesota Twins.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: And kind of similar to Saint Louis, this was not
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: a team that was supposed to get off to a
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: good start Minnesota, but they did, and now they've kind
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: of settled back down to earth. They have lost five
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: straight games, so they're a scuffling team as they start
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: this series with the Mariners, and hopefully we're just ready
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: to blow past all of these pretenders.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would like to see what we saw
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: over the weekend where different people are contributing throughout the
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: different games. I mean, that was one of the most
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: fun parts, is I mean seeing Leo Revas, you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: get the hit that puts us up ahead.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: On Saturday and seeing Ref Schneider do it yesterday. I mean,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: that's the best.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: And I want to say this, I'm glad because it
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: triggered something. And this has to be said. Cole Young
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: was fantastic this weekend. I mean defensively for more than
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: anything else. But he had some big hits. He had
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: a big home run. You know, he had the great
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: spring training and then he got off to a really
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: good start and then he kind of went into a
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: cold spell there for a little while, and you were,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: you know, man, okay, young man, we can't have the
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: same patience as we did a year ago. So hopefully,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: you know, you're gonna come out of this soon. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: he's come out of it in a big way. And
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: he is playing gold Glove caliber defense right now at
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: second base, so I think he's gonna end up being
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: a really, really good player.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Excellent, all right.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Coming up next, we've yet to talk about the NFL Draft.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell is going to be with us at seven
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: oh five, but we'll beat him to the punch and
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: talk about what the Seahawks did over the weekend. Sports
• 23:27
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• 23:36
  Speaker 8: O'Brien has been one of the very best out of
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: any bullpen, and he faces Connor Joe representing the go
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: ahead run second and third.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It's hard to make contact against, and he's hard to lift, and.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: The right field base had carverys in Young is coming
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: home and Connor Joe ties the game in the eighth inning,
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: Back and forth we go in Saint Louis.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: Bases are loaded Mariners and the Cardinals are tied.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: In the ninth.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: Into center field, Leo Revos delivers. In the ninth inning,
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: Prawford scores garter right behind him, and Leo Revos burns
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: the Cardinals again. The Mariners have come back to take
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: the lead eleven to nine in the ninth inning.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Aaron and Anji on the call Mariners Television, that was
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Saturday's crazy ass.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Affair, Wit need some Love.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Brian Wu got roughed up, and yet the Mariners managed
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: to come back from a couple different double digit deficits,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: not double digit but multiple run deficits in order to
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: win eleven to nine. Then they cap off the series
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Sunday with a three to two win, a little more conventional,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: little more Mariner like Rob Refsnyder with a game winning
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: home run and the top of the ninth inning and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Jose for Rare closed it out. The Ems have won
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: four straight. They are now fourteen and fifteen on the
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: season as they sweep the Saint Louis Cardinals, and they
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: have a chance, despite this terrible start that they got
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: off to this year, as a team predicted to do
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: damage this year in the Major League Playoffs and maybe
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: make it to the World Series, they have an opportunity
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: tonight to get back to the five hundred mark. They'll
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: be taking on the Minnesota Twins. First pitch is at
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: four forty. Connor Prelip. It might be Prilip, not sure.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Don't really know this guy all that well, I think.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: You're fine, just to guess.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: He's a left handers made one career start for the
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Minnesota Twins, so he'll get the start for them. Luis
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Castillo gets the start for us. More on that with
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: ABC's of the M's coming up a little bit later
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: on this. Our first pitch there is at four forty,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: and that's where our frost brewed course I choose chill
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: headlines begin. We have not talked about a lot of
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: these things in the headlines here today. The Red Sox
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: crazy mass firings, over the weekend. Alex Cora and five
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: assistants all fired on Saturday. Remarkable turn of events. It's
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: a remarkable story. And then whether they do They went
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: out and won with their interim manager Chad Tracy on Sunday,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: but could it start an avalanche of firings and hirings.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I'm expecting that the Mets, Carlos Mendoza is going to
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: be let go today. They just got swept by the Rockies.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on. So we'll talk more about that
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit later on this hour. The NBA Playoffs,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the Toronto Raptors, San Antonio Spurs, Boston Bruins, and Houston
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: excuse me, Boston Celtics and Houston Rockets all won over
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. Toronto evens up there, Serrie, San Antonio, Boston
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: they're up three to one, and Houston stay live where
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: they win over the Lakers, They're still down three games
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: to one. Kevin Durant has been out for most of
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: this series. Tonight Detroit at Orlando, as the Pistons need
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: to win just to even up that series. Oklahoma City
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: at Phoenix. Oklahoma City can win the series, and so
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: can the Minnesota Timberwolves. Can they take out the Denver Nuggets.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: That would be quite the upset. They're gonna play without
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: two star players. Devincenzo is out for the rest of
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the playoffs with an achilles injury, and Anthony Edwards is
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: out for a couple of weeks with a hyper extended knee.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: That looks yeah, so Minnesota chance to take out the Nuggets,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: but they're down to their superstar and another pretty good
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: player for that game and then Stanley Cup Playoffs as well.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Winners yesterday were Buffalo, Colorado, Tampa Bay and Anaheim. For Colorado,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: they win the series in a sweep four to zero
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: over the La Kings. Tonight just two games on ice,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia at Pittsburgh and Las Vegas will be Utah taking
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: on the Mammoth. And of course, the NFL Draft finished
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: up on Saturday. It's time to talk some draft with
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: our Seahawks insider Greg Bell.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: With the Bell Tolls.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
• 28:14
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• 28:27
  Speaker 4: with twelk Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Budd.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you survived NFL Draft weekend? Greg, congratulations, Yeah, thank you.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was too bad. Other than a perfect Saturday,
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: it was inside a building that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: It is amazing. Greg and I talked about this on
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Saturday during our broadcast. There is something weird that every
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: time it's NFL Draft Saturday, it is the best weather
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: day of the entire year, and you just sit there
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: with this view of the lake and it looked gorgeous.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: And even though I love covering the draft, there's certainly
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: an element of wow, I probably should be outside.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Or like, could we just move us to a tent
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: out there on the practice field.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: It's unreal. It's uncanny wind.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Chuck, the Draftmas guy, mister Draftmas himself is longing and
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: looking out the window, wishing he was somewhere else. I know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: it's a pretty nice day outside.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, we should have known John Schneider wasn't
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: going to draft just four guys this week, and by
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: the time Saturday came to a close, he had eight
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: draft picks. For goodness sake, What is it that stood
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: out to you on Saturday about all of John Schneider's maneuverings.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, before we came eight and a draft that
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: he had said was weak. Bo Stevens was the trigger
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: for all of it. The All American guard from Iowa
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: in the fifth round. Some people thought he would go
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: in the third round, and when he was stilling the
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: boy come Saturday morning, that was a And then he
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: was still on the board at the end of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: fourth round. In the middle in the earlier fourth round,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Josh Schneider was walking through our draft room. All the
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: reporters were just hanging out, lounging around like had nothing
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: to do, just joking with us. And it was about
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: nine nine thirty, nothing to do, and then all of
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: a sudden, po Stevens is still available in the fifth round.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: He started making calls and he found teams willing to
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: trade with him, so he trades back into the fifth round.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: He didn't have a fifth round pick. He hit a
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: sixth when the day began, and that was he said.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: They just they were very surprised and they had to
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: take him. And by doing it, how much did they
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: want to get both Stevens because he fell so far
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: They dipped into their stash of twelve picks and next
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: year's stronger draft to get po Stevens. They traded a
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven to fourth round pick to get into
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: the fifth round to get him. It's interesting that he
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: has started both at left guard and right guard for Iowa,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: a team coached by Kirk Friends, former offensive line coach.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: It's just he's an NFL savant for developing offensive line
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: lineman and just blue collar offensive power blocking. The NFL
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: loves seeing his prospects compared to everybody else is in
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: two point stances all the time, and the fact that
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: bo Stevens has been both left and right, of course,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: is intriguing because of Anthony Bradford's situation and the starting
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: right guard is in the final year of his contract.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: So of course we ask after the draft ended, oh
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: which not are you going to start bo Stevens on?
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: They were too smart to answer that, and Mike McDonald
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: just parried that question and didn't give us an answer.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: They didn't want to put Anthony Bradford on the spot
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: before bo Stevens has even entered the building. But suffice
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: to say, they're not going to start bo Stevens on
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the left side with Gray's Abel their stud rookie left
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: guard still I think at least three maybe four years
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: under contract is last year's first round pick. So that,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: to me triggered the whole thing. And then once Snyder
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: was able to trade back trade into the fifth round
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: there he started trading back from the sixth round. This
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: was the first time I haven't covering drafts since what
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: two thousand and two at the Raiders down in Sacramento,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: b This is the first time I've ever heard of
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: or even thought about a team drafting a gunner, a
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: punt team gunner. Emmanuel Henderson is on the board as
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: a wide receiver, the sixth round pick from Kansas, but
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: they picked him because he's a gunner. He ran almost
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: twenty three miles an hour by GPS tracking as a
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: gunner at Kansas. I mean, he runs fast and you're
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: allowed to drive through school zones. And I've never heard
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: of a guy that is drafted specifically to be an
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: outside punt coverage guy. He's also a punt returner at Kansas,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: so he's a punt returner who also tackles punt returners.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: When you're a Super Bowl champion with twenty one of
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: twenty two returners coming back. You make picks like that
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: specialty boutique Niche picks. And that's when Emmanuel Henderson was
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: in the sixth round. That was pretty interesting. Man. Then
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: the other thing that I took away from Saturday check
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: the final part of the draft was Michael Dansby, the
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: cornerback from Arizona. He was the two hundred and fifty
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: fifth pick in the draft, the second the third to
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: last pick. There were only two other picks in the
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: whole draft, mister Irrelevant two behind him. And Michael gets
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: on the phone with us and says that he ran
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: a four to two five during his training. Well, what
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: he told us that we all looked at each other.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Those was a couple of Draft two or three drafts,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: and there's no way in hell this guy's seventh round,
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: pick three from the bottom of the draft ran in
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: a four to two five. He would have been in
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: the third or fourth round just it would have been
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: like Ronaldo Nea Maya, the just pick him because he's fast,
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: and I mean it was like his dad was timing
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: him when he said that. He said he did it
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: during his training before the draft, and we asked John
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Schneider about four to five. He just shook his head
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: and laughed. So well, he's a cornerback. Of course he's
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: going to tell you that. It just speaks to the
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: bravado of this draft class. We all heard Julian Neil
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: the other night Friday night with unbelievable quotes about Cam
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: Chancellor and I'm coming to smash people's faces and all
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: of that. Well, the bravado was pretty much the theme
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: through the whole thing, and I'm right ready for tomorrow
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: for the distribute about that. They had a task entering
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: the draft of they actually have a competition scaley they're board.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Snyder was explained. He said to me, Greg, I could
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: spend the hours to you, but they have a competition
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: scale where they measure in tangibles of competitiveness, and they
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: wanted the draft guys who were not in awe of
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl champions. They wanted the draft bravado swag. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: heard the word swag and swaggy through Snyder and McDonald
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: the whole weekend, and that's what this whole picks are.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Jullian Neil, that persona Bud Clark, another confident swaggy guy.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: We're in Chris and I are going to talk to
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: his position coach from TCU at eleven o'clock. But even
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: the seventh round pick with swag.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg Bell is with us. Our Seahawks insider draft
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: coverage came to a close on Saturday, the Seahawks coming
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: away with eight selections, and yeah, we haven't even had
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the chance here on the morning show to talk about
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: what happened Friday. You mentioned the names Julian Neil in
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the third round and then Bud Clark in the second round,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: and I guess if I'm hurd it correctly, Mike McDonald
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: was trying to play down. No, we weren't just trying
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: to replace body types, but it really does feel like
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: they were trying to replace Kobe Bryant and Rieq Woollan
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: to some degree. They were trying to fill needs in
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: that secondary a long corner and Neil and then a
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: hybrid corner corner slash safety and Bud Clark. So I
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: don't think that they should be embarrassed about that, you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I think that they should own that that they may
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: have found a Bud Clark guy that could step in
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: for Bryant, if not this year soon and maybe Neil
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: is somebody that can match up against long receivers in
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: the future.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: Yes, the first four picks were just straight linear. Here's
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: what we lost we can replenish. Jadarian Price, Kenneth Walker
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: super Bowl MBV. He goes Kansas City. They drafted a
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: running back in first round. Kobe Brant goes to the Bears.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: They draft a safety, Bud Clark, in the second round.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Rieke Willing goes the Eagles. They draft Julian Love in
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: the third round. Anthony Bradford is entering the final year
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: of his contract as the starting right guard. They draft
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: both Stevens's guard. It's turnkey, and they did it last
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: year with their first pick, Gray's Abel with the issue
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: they had at left guard at the time, a wide
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: open position they needed to fill. So yeah, they did.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: And that's unusual for John Schneider. He could say all
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: he once about how the best player of the spot,
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: but he drafted for need, which he doesn't always do
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: and says he often gets in trouble doing. But in
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: their minds they had the best players at that spot
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: at the need. It bears saying again. If people were
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: out in the beautiful sunshine, it may not have heard
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: this weekend. I've mentioned a few times on our draft
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: coverage here Jadarium Price. They intended to be a second
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: round pick they once they didn't get Chris Johnson. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: was told that Chris Johnson, the cornerback from San Diego State,
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: became their target as round one continued, and as the
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: cornerback started pushing down, and when Chris Johnson went a
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: few spots ahead of thirty two, I think I can't
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: remember which spot he went exactly, then that's when they
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: pivoted to let's get Jadarium Price in the second round
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: and trade down. And then all the trades down happened
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: right before him. In round one, they had six trades
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: between the twenty and thirty one spots, Seattle picking thirty two.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: And what happened there is they ran out of teams
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: to trade with. All the teams that wanted to trade
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: into those late first round picks got used up by
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: San Francisco trading down twice, for instance, in front of him,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: and they had no one to trade with at the
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: bottom around one, and the Jets that wanted to jump
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: up had already jumped up above him, so they weren't available.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Was to pick right behind Seattle, and so they were
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: left with nobody to trade with, and that's why they
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: took price where they did. They didn't believe and rightly so,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: that price would still be there at sixty four. Their
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: original pick at the bottom around two, So they took
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: him at thirty two, and they couldn't trade with anyone.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider. Of course,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: you can follow his entire coverage of the draft at
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Thenewstribune dot com or you can follow him, and I
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: should say you could follow him on x at g
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Bell Seattle. The one thing they didn't get accomplished that
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: we all thought that they would is to draft an
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: edge rusher. Why did they not get to it and
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: why should we not be concerned about it?
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Well, they tried, and they didn't. It was a case
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: of we're not just going to force picking an edge
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: dresser to pick an d treasure. And that's what it
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: came down to, is, especially in the later rounds, you're
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: not going to pick a guy that you don't think
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: is going to help you. And so that's what happened.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: And now they'll look into free agency, and so here's
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: the deal in free agency as of today, Monday. The
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: league rules are, if you sign a veteran free agent
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: from this day forward, he does not count against the
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: pick formula for twenty twenty seven. And John Schneider's very
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: in tune to the fact that he, because of comppicks,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: is lined up to have eleven picks in a stronger
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: draft next year. So he does not want to give
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: up any of those comp pics, and he waited until
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: now to sign any more veterans from the outside. And
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: so that's that's basically what they're doing. And they're playing
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: the comp pick formula game and keep holding onto their
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: eleven picks, and now they can sign a veteran from outside.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: And now, because we're in this stage of free agency,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: they don't have to wait and or they don't have
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: to bid, or they can just take their time and
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: do it on their terms. Dante Fowler, ventured edge rusher
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: in the NFL, visited the Seahawks last week, made a
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: free agent visit. That's just one of a few that
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: they can now sign without it affecting the contic formula.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: But yeah, they're not done there. And Mike McDonald has
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: said repeatedly this is just part of the process. The
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: draft was in the next part of the process. They've
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: They've Doggie Harris has made a free agent visit, the
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: running back coming off an achilles stare for more thousand
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: yard rusher for four seasons with the Steelers. So now
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: we're going to enter that phase of them shopping in
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: free agency all the way in through the summer when
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: there's salary cap cuts in training camp.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Did you at least get to enjoy a wonderful sunset
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: on your drive home Saturday from three days a draft coverage.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: I did. I actually got home a little bit before this.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: That's my goal. Every Saturday is a home before the
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: sun sets. And I did get to home before the
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: sun was setting. But now, yeah, it's I mean, it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: the only three days you're actually wedded to that building
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: besides some mini camp days and whatever. But yeah, you're right,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: it is uncanny how Saturdays are there.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: It's fun though, that's a great energy. And I know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: you know somebody that covers the beat that you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: it's something old hat to you to be around that building,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: But I love, you know, and I'm not around it
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: nearly as much, so kind of enjoy the energy of
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: the whole thing as well, so.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Every yeah, you're right, Chuck, And again every one of
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: the two hundred and fifty seven picks this weekend has
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: a story. Yeah, and they came from somewhere, and that
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Bud Cark got married as a college sophomore. He has
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: a three year old and I asked him about that
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: the second round pick. I said, how did you? I mean,
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: it wasn't like he was just a side job as
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: he was being a young father. He was a full time,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: big time college football player. That's like an eighty hour
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: week job and he's got to go to class and
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: he's got his young fiance and young son at home.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: And he said, yeah, that was and eye openers that
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: there's a lot more to life than football. I had
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: to grow up really fast. My fiance was awesome with
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: our baby at home. I mean, it's stuff like that.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: And Tod Aaron Price, we mentioned his mom battling breast
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: beating breast cancer and the motivation for that. And there
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: were stories all through the Seahawks that Devin eastern overcame
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: an emotional disorder well at the University of Minnesota, and
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: he talked to the Minneapolis Press a couple of years
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: ago about that and about how vital counseling and talking
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: about things were to him to get through menison. That
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: was in the NFL. Every one of those two hundred
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: fifty seven people have a story and a path and
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: their dreams were realized this week, and it was really cool.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: That will never If I'm callous to that, I need
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: to get out of the business, because that's the coolest
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: thing about the draft.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: All right, Greg, Well, thank you very much for everything.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: We appreciate it. It was a great draft, miss holiday,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: and you were a central part of it, so we
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: appreciate all your help.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: Oh thanks, Check, I'm sorry your holiday season is over.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it has to come to an end after
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: a while. You're just like, I'm exhausted.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: And that's what makes it magic. If it went all year, Yeah,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: that's true.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: You couldn't sustain that for twelve months.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: No, I was about at the end of my rope.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Come about Saturday at three o'clock, does.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: The tree come down or you just keep that up
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: for pusterity?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Move the tree down? Yeah, the tree is down down. Yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: it's otherwise hunger and we'll get pissed at us, you would,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: all right, So ten o'clock today, yes, yes.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Sir, all right, we'll talk to the We'll talk to
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: the position coach for Bud Clark at eleven o'clock from
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: TCU Juice Brown. All right, eleven o'clock sounds good.
• 43:48
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  Speaker 3: the letter E is for the Emersons. Man it is.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: It's getting pretty interesting. It's getting pretty sticky right here.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Emerson Hancock another really good outing. He has an ERA
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: at two point eight six. He has been our most
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: consistent starting pitcher this season. We can even now place
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: him ahead of Brian wu on that list of consistent
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: starting pitchers for the Mariners. And he's going to make
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: it really difficult. So Luis Castillo with Bryce Miller, you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: getting ready and ramping up all of his usage. Well,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Luis Castillo, it feels to me like all of his
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: starts are important because he's been the least consistent of
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: our starters to this point in the season. Be really
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  Speaker 3: tough for me to take my most consistent starter and
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: replace him with my least constant starter and keep him
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: into the starting rotation. Just because one has more seniority
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: over the other. Not in a year where I'm trying
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: to win a World Series.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: That would be a terrible way to judge it.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: About it, Well, that decision is starting to it's starting
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: to now bubble to the surface now. I mean, we're
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: gonna have to make that decision sooner than later, and
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I will throw young Colt Emerson in there as well.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's not lighting up Tacoma right now. He's
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: got a two fifty average, three sixty on base eight
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: twenty one ops. But I'm going to tell you something.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Play's a really good defense, fast, and he has power.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: He's hit two home runs in his last four games.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: JP's batting average is still well below two hundred. His
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: arm strength is obviously affected by whatever injury he had
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: in the offseason. He had a couple of throws over
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: the weekend where it was like, can you even get
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: the ball across the diamond?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: It seemed like a struggle.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: He is.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: And he is even struggling with his batter's eye at
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: this point. He's got a high on base, he's getting
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of walks, but like he had a bad
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: challenge yesterday. That was a bad moment, and he still
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: won't cut down on his swing. He's still trying to
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: hit a home run. It feels to me like every
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: other swing, which is just not his role. I mean,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: at some point we might have to make the decision.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: We just have a better shortstop in Tacoma than we
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: have in Seattle, and so I mean, I'm going to
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: give it a little more time, a little more time.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: But every day that passes, I'm a little more convinced
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: that our best shortstop in the organization's a twenty year old,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: freckle faced kid put living in Tacoma right now.
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it is getting harder and harder to ignore,
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: that's for sure.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fs for Firings. Man, what a weird day in
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Boston on Saturday. And I'll tell you somebody that doesn't
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: subscribe to it's early. Craig Bresley. Yeah, clearly the general
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: manager of the Red Sox. Here's what he clearly did.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: He's taking heat for Red Sox fans for the bad
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: start that they're off to and Craig Breslow's passing the
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: blame on to his coaching staff. He feels that he
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: gave them a great roster this year. One that should
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs and maybe contend in the American League.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: But they got off to a nine and seventeen start,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: And so was he going to blame himself for that. No,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: he decided to blame a very successful in a Red
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Sox uniform manager in Alex Cora, and whatever disagreements they'd had,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: because apparently there'd been a lot of them. He just
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: decided he was going to take all of Cora's buddies
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: out too, one because he didn't want them lingering around
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: the locker room after, you know, he gets rid of
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: If he just gets rid of Cora, you still have
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: the message to the players that that was a mistake
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: from the five other guys that were his cronies, if
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: you will. And so he decided, I'm just going to
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: get rid of all of them. I mean, it is
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: a bold move, but it has to work otherwise. Craig
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Breslo's out. And even the president of the Boston Red
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Sox said, nope, this was the general manager's decision alone,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: which usually you kind of present a United Front president
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: said nope, this was the GM's decision. He wanted to
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: separate himself from it as much as he possibly could so.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Craig Breslow, the general manager of the Red Sox, putting
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: himself on the line right now.
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: I saw somebody tweet out It's like it was a
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: tweet that they got or a comment they got from
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: a former Red Sox player who said, it's like pooping
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: your pants and changing your shirt.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, and so, I mean, thank goodness. The Mariners started
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: turning around a little bit. But I didn't mention this
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: with Dan Wilson. There are just a lot of teams
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: of Major League Baseball who believe they've got really good teams,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: and they got off the bad starts. The Blue Jays
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: are still three games under five hundred. The Royals, who
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: thought they were gonna win the division this year, are
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: still six games under five hundred. The Astros are eleven
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: and eighteen. The Mets, I'm expecting any second now that
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: the Mets are firing their manager. Philadelphia is nine and nineteen.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: At this point, they thought they were winning the World
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Series this year. It's one of those years. I said
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: this about Dan, and I never said to fire him.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong what I said, though, this is
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: a precious year, and if after a four and nine start,
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: if we end up eight and eighteen. It's something you
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: got to consider. You can't waste this year, and I
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: think a lot of teams feel that way. I can't
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: waste this year, and if I'm not in disagreement, not
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: in harmony with my manager, I might have to shake
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: something up. So I'm not I'm surprised that Cora was
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: the example of this, but I'm not entirely surprise. I
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: think maybe this starts an avalanche effect. I think that
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: maybe Alex Korra could become the next said, excuse me,
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: the next manager of the Phillies or the Mets. I
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: think that his availability suddenly makes him a hot candidate
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: for maybe a couple of other teams that just will
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: not accept a slow start this year, not with the
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: talented veteran roster that we've pieced together. We may have
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: to shake it up. We may have no choice but
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: to shake it up. So we'll see. I think we're
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: going to see a couple more of these before the
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: next couple of weeks, and thankfully, Dan's not going to
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: be one of them, because he's kind of pulled himself out.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Of the year, Thank goodness.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, coming up next, Hugh Millan is with
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  Speaker 3: US Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A R
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  Speaker 3: F M. Yeah, not said at all. The holidays are wonderful,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: but I enjoy him. You can't keep up that pace.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: That's so exhausting.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, you got to ramp up to something, and
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: then you got to get the payoff, and then you
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: gotta do a little recovery. I mean, we just can't
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: do every day just celebrating like it's nineteen ninety nine
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: for goodness sake.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I had my fill of draft nog and
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I don't want anymore. For a while, we had the tree,
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: but we put it away today before Mike Holmgren criticized
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: US correct for over celebrating overdraft missing, and by the
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: time the seventh round rolled around on Saturday, I'm like,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: you know what kind of tired of picks I've never
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: really heard of? So why don't we just put a
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: bow on this thing for another fantastic draft miss year
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: and now we'll just analyze the hell out of it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: And joining us on the program is a man that
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: became he's already number one in your hearts. Is our
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: QB one top an US here at Sports Radio ninety
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: three point three kh A r FM. But his role
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: of Hucon Cornelius this draft of the season may just
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: added new layers of adoration to this guy. And my goodness,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: I mean we're selling hughcon Cornelius bobble heads. We can't
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: keep them on the shelves right now.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, what claymation character would you rather be?
• 54:28
  Speaker 9: I mean, he's top of the food chain, number one
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: prospector to be linked with him.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Well, we did it again. Another draft season comes to
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: a close before we start diving into these eight picks
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: as John decided to make you do twice the work
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: over the weekend. Thank you, John, Easy Sunday. Yeah, I
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: just wanted to get your overall thoughts. What's the thing
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: that stood out most of you about the draft weekend
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: this year?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think you come into it with relatively low expectations.
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, we had a couple of years
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: ago we had the fifth and the twentieth pick, and
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: you get Devin Witherspoon and you get jsn uh.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: You know you're down down fourth pick? Was that good?
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: By the way, was that a good draft? Do you
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: think you think they hit on those.
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: And and yeah, that's why they got another Lombardi. But
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: uh so, I think you come into it, you know,
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: and obviously you had the fourth and fifth round losses
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: with Rashid Shihead, who with his special teams contributions, you know,
• 55:36
  Speaker 9: made it all worth it, right, and and so I
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: think it it's just a low expectation draft. But I
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: really do believe that they uh you know, several days
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: before I think there they had their eye on Jadarium
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  Speaker 9: price with the first pick. I'll get to that in
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: a second. I think that they had their eye on
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: Bud Clark at sixty four, and I think that they
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: had their their eye on Julian Neil at ninety six.
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: Though that like bang bang bang, that's that's how they
• 56:11
  Speaker 9: had projected they thought they're now. The one caveat is
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: that they probably felt like they could have and should
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: have been able to pick up a couple more picks,
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: but you know, drop back to thirty five to thirty
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: eight somewhere in there, yeah, and still get get the
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: half back in price. But other than that, I think,
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: and then and then you know, there's I don't call
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: them surprises, but some issues that we'll talk about in
• 56:39
  Speaker 9: the later picks. But I think I think as far
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: as as them identifying their needs, identifying the players that
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: would best fit their needs. I think they're absolutely delighted
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: they got the guys they wanted.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Well, we've got two hours together here, and so I
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: hope I'm not throwing you off because you would think
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I'd go, you know, sort of chronologically through the selections.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: But we did do Judarian Price for quite a bit
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: on Friday, and so with our Big Fat segment to
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: start things off, maybe we begin with the two Friday
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: picks since so we on the Chuck and Buck Show
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: have not had that analysis presented since that happened on Friday,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: and then we had the weekend. So if you don't mind,
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I'd like to skip to Friday and get your thoughts
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: on those two selections to get us started here today.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Let's go with Bud Clark. They did stick and pick
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: again at sixty four, and this is a safety out
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: of TCU. Sounds like he's got some cornerback coverage skills
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: that might be able to slide him inside. Kind of
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: sounds like the reverse Kobe Bryant experiment at cornerback that
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: could play safety. This is a safety that might be
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: able to play some corner, and it did feel to
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: me like we have a hole. We really like that
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant player, and maybe we have his replacement in
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Bud Clark. It did feel like you're trying to fill
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: that hole uh in your roster. Now can he pull
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: it off? Tell me about Bud Clark through your lens.
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I would agree, you know, obviously losing excuse me,
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: Kobe Bryant, you gotta have a plan to have some
• 58:17
  Speaker 9: competition there. I mean, tyle Cotta really played well, won
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: a lot of games with him. There's some physical limitations,
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: but but you know, in looking at Clark, I would
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: say it's it's yes, that replacement, but I think you
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: add a little bit more chuck uh to it because
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: when you when you listen to Mike McDonald in in
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: the press conference that Friday night, and he was talking
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: about his versatility and he immediately mentions Nickel and I'm
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: kind of WHOA. The light kind of goes on to
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: me for me that that when you look at Devin Witherspoon,
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: let's let's I'm gonna work backwards for Devyn Wisbon could
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: because I think the point to make about Bud Clark,
• 59:04
  Speaker 9: you say Wait a minute, isn't that more of a julian'
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: neil a comparison. Not to me, it's a Bud Clark comparison.
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: So Spoon has has been has played for Mike McDonald
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: two years.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: The first year Spoon that was twenty twenty four, Spoon
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: had three hundred and ninety snaps out wide, but inside
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: he had six eighty three whatever that ratio is. But
• 59:33
  Speaker 9: remember that third three ninety out wide, six eighty three inside.
• 59:38
  Speaker 9: Last year he goes from three ninety outside to four
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: sixty one outside, and his inside snaps dropped from six
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: eighty three to four nineteen and and so I think
• 59:50
  Speaker 9: that what you want with Bud Clark and what what
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: Mike McDonald envisions is you could see a situation where
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: Bud Clark comes inside and plays the nickel and Spoon
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: stays on the outside. Because when Spoon went inside, you know,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: when Reek Wollan came on. Reek Willan's not an inside player.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: Greek Wolan had to be the outside corner. So Spoon
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: when they wanted to play the diamond again, thirty six
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: snaps in the Super Bowl of Dime, the most of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: the season by far. They were ramping up. The first
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: nine games only had two and a half plays per
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: game in dime and then it went jumped to eighteen
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: per game in the second half of the season, highlighted
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 9: by thirty six per snaps in the Super Bowl. So
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: that ability to play diamond. Of course, that's with Nick
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: Emmin Worry, who's technically a safety, but you know, look
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 9: at him and he could almost view him as a sandbacker.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: But any of it, I.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 9: Think Bud Clark he played in the box last year
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 9: two hundred and fourteen times, plus a slot corner at
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 9: three h nine, so you combine him, that's five point
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: twenty three inside and then he was a safety only
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 9: one hundred and thirty nine in a back end safety,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: so he has a lot of experience playing in the slot.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: His heightest sixty one percent even though his weight is
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: you look the first first rep you when you put
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: on the tape, you go, WHOA, that's a thin frame.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: He's one hundred and eighty eight pounds ninth percentile for safeties,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: but sixty first percentile in height and ninety third percentile
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 9: for his forty time, eighty six percentile for his broad jump.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 9: He was he was a long jumper in high school.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 9: So when what you see is you see a lean dude,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 9: just exactly what you said. What was Kobe Bryant played
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: corner at Cincinnati, won the Thrower Award for the best
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: College dB as a corner, and then and then you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 9: know they put him in slot with with Pete Carroll,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: and then he found a home in the back end
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 9: with Mike McDonald. I think that what you see with
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 9: Bud Clark is a guy that you know, has a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 9: lot of versatility, big time IQ.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Football.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 9: IQ has a great sense of recognizing patterns, what have
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 9: you will go get the ball. Unbelievable fifteen interceptions. I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: mean he had an interception against Colorado where he was
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 9: covering the underneath guy right near the lion of scrimmage.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 9: The quarterback is throwing it to an intermediate sail cut
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 9: outbreaking route and he just jumps up and snatches it
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 9: like you know, like some leopard catching a bird or
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 9: something on the sahara, Like and I backed it up
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: and I go the ball was in the end of
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: the air for seven yards, Like how does a man
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: catch that?
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  Speaker 3: You know, So he's.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: Got an ability to play the ball, gets his hands
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 9: on a lot of pass defense. And as I said,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: fifteen career uh uh interceptions, it's got a lot of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: experience and and and the athleticism.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: He brings.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: What he lacks in wait, he makes up for in
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: his uh his his ability to catch up, you know,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 9: cover ground and uh. Now he's he's not an elite
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 9: tackler in space. You know, sometimes he's a little too technical,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 9: kind of breaks down, and that's not a bad thing.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 9: The very best safeties just kind of fly up and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 9: and just chop you down at full speed. They never
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 9: break down. I mean, let me, let me explain what
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: that means. In high school. If you if you go
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: watch a practice and you're teaching young safeties, you have
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 9: to do what's called breakdown. So you come from depth,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 9: there's a guy out out in space. You gotta drop
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: your hips, you gotta widen your base, and you gotta
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: get you kind of got to slow down to come
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 9: under control, to give yourself a chance to make the tackle.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: The the the the contradiction is that the very best safeties.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: You know, you watch Buddha Baker play, you know, Buddha
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 9: Baker comes flying. He ain't breaking down for nothing. He
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: just takes the correct angle and he's so fast, He's
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 9: on you so fast, he's going to chop you down right,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: And and of course he's an undersized safety, but just
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 9: plays with this this abandonment and you know, you know, breakdown, shmakedown.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 9: You know, I'm not breaking down for anything. So those
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: the elite guys have that ability.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 9: Clark, you know, tends to be more technical, you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: you know, come to balance, get his feet wide and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 9: drop his hips, which is fundamental. I know, I'm I'm
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 9: I'm just it's dichotomous what I'm trying to convey. But
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: so I think he's very good, but not elite tackling
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 9: in space. But yeah, you get a cover guy, high
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: IQ ball skills, great versatility. Let me say it again,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: great versatility. It's very important. The Seattle Seahawks had this
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 9: guy targeted at sixty four days in advance days in advents,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: and so yeah, they got the guy they wanted.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Humilan is with us the Monday Morning Quarterback
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Draft edition here as we're going to recap all pretty
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: much all the eight to picks that the Seahawks ended
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: up with by the end of Saturday right here on
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: the radio program. The other player they got on day
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: two Friday was Julian Neil and apparently you have already
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: struck up a kinship with Julian Neil. I've heard the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: clips of your exchange in his interview. So there was
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: you know, there was Cosell and Ali and now apparently
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: there's Milan and Julian Neil. That's a deep bull and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: I know it.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: I'm sure all of our listeners know it, but I
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: know exactly what you're talking.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: That's funny, But you're a funny guy. A long corner
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: out of Arkansas. And I know he's not an athletic
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: doppel ganger to Reek Wolland, but he has a long
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: corner and Riek Willand's loss from this secondary you are
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: going to have to match up with some long receivers
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: in the NFC West and throughout the National Football League.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised they went out there and got
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: themselves a six foot two inch six foot three inch corner.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Can this guy play? Yeah?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, first of all, just a little bit of
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 9: a background on the exchange we had, so he had
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 9: already in the in the in the kind of the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 9: media scrum he had talked about playing off corner. Somebody
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 9: had asked him, hey, you play a lot of off corner,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 9: you know, tell us about that, and he had he
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: had said, you know, he was talking about, oh yeah,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 9: I'm really good at reading routes from off corner, the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: progressions right as opposed to press right. When off corner
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 9: you kind of you know, you're backed off, as the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 9: name implies, and you're looking at the he says, I'm
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 9: reading the quarterback, I'm reading the offensive tackle, I'm I'm
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 9: reading you know, the formation. So he's he's talking about
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 9: the i Q that, by the way, is really coveted
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 9: by Mike McDonald. Like there no no dumb dumbs allowed
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 9: on a Mike McDonald defense, all right, period, end of story.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: So if you if, if you, if you see a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: guy get drafted by the Seahawks, you can promise the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: guys in the top quadrant of football IQ for his
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 9: position hard stop, like can can can we can?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: We agree on that?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 9: And so he's talking about all of his processing in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: the off corner and which to me, you know a
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: lot of guys that's that's great, you know, but a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 9: lot of guys say, I want the challenge of you know,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: bump and run, you know, press coverage and what have you.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: So one of the questions I like to ask these guys,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: whether it's aligneman or a running back or whatever, it's like, hey,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: when you get the huddle call, because I remember as
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: a player, you know you're looking to the sideline and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 9: and you know you're looking for the call and then
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 9: you see the signal come in and there's that immediate
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: reaction like, hey, do I like this play or do
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 9: you have like a slight disappointment? And I don't want
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: that one type of thing, right, So you know, I
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: figure all all players have that. You know, right when
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 9: you hear it in the huddle, you are like, oh, yeah,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 9: this is my play. You know, an offensive lineman, if
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: you're the power and you're you know, you're gonna you're
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 9: the you're the guard and you're gonna pull behind and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 9: you're gonna go fit up on the back, or you
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: say that's my favorite play, and then you learn something
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: about him, so you know it's kind of going, so, uh,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: you know, what's what's your favorite play? Essentially was kind
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 9: of what I ask, and if if if there was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 9: a play on the line, and and he starts to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 9: describe it and uh and and then you know, I said, well,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: do you want off coverage or press coverage because he
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 9: had already described all these things that he thinks he's
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 9: good at at off coverage, and then he says he says, no, no, no,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: he said, hell no, you know, you know, not sure exactly.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: I'm sure Ashley has it, but it's like I want,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: I'm up in your face, I'm I'm, I'm pressing you,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: I'm jamming you know, I'm you know, waunching, paunching that.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 9: So at an event, So what's the takeaway? He feels
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 9: like he's really good and how he can process when
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: he's off, but then he likes the challenge of being on.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 9: And that's one of the things that the Seahawks really
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: like about him is that there's, as you said, the
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 9: length six one and five eights. He's in the ninety
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 9: second percentile. Now he's not in one hundred percentile like
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 9: Riek Wolland was, but you get the length and the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 9: arm length that there's been discussed so much, thirty two inches,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: the thirty two inch standard that the Seahawks apparently had
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: for so many years. Well, this guy at thirty two
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: and three quarters at arm length, that's the eightieth percentile.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 9: Yet he can still run four four nine fifty seconds,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 9: so he's in the top half. And his vertical of
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: forty inches forty inches. I want to see this guy
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: in a dunk contest ninety second percent so and and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 9: understand this what Mike McDonald's looking at. He he wants more.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: He wants more fire coming downhill and run support. He
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 9: wants guys that when they they come up on the flat,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 9: whether it's a screen pass or whether it's a wide zone,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: whether it's a pinn and pull some scheme that gets
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 9: the ball outside the numbers. He he wants corners just
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 9: like with their hair on fire coming up to smack
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 9: that crap. And and I think that that they really
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 9: like that's about And then the other part is is
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 9: that you know they need to be able to cover
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 9: the go route right like like if that's one one
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 9: trait you have to have, because that's hard to teach.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 9: You know, you have to be able to, you know,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 9: turn and go and be able to make a play
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 9: on the ball. So with his length and adequate speed
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: he'd showed on tape, he can cover the go route.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 9: The rest of it, you know, they can kind of
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 9: live with. I mean, in my tape study, I think
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 9: he's a little bit slow in transition when he back
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 9: pedals and then he reads it, I think it takes
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: him an extra step, or I think his balance is
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 9: a little bit too far back, so there's more weight
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: on his back foot when he tries to transition from
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 9: a back pedal to coming forward. Whether that can be fixed,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: we'll see. But I think that it just seems a
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: little slow because I'm used to remember, now, this is
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: my this is my process. I study all the first
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: rounders for the mock draft. I tell Rich, you know,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 9: purple sheet. I'm like, don't expect me to be doing.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: All like that.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: The math doesn't add up, and there's a lot of guys.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: This is another one of the things that chased me
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 9: about these these mock drafts. Like mel Kiper, I know,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 9: spends the whole year studying these guys through seven rounds.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 9: Like like, so if you say you can't really get
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: a feel for a guy unless you've studied him for
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 9: you know, a minimum, you know, I would say six,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: you know, four to six hours, and and then it
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 9: doesn't add up, Like how are you gonna how how
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: unless you're like mel Kiper and your Santa Claus and
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 9: you work one day a year and you work the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: rest of the year, you know, making sure the elves
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: have the toys. Like another draft by the way, yeah
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: you see how we did?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: We played that?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you hit your line. So but but mel Kiper,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 9: you know, and of course he's the OG, but that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 9: to be a true draft expert, you know, I don't
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 9: know how long, Daniel jime Rohan, but you got to
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 9: spend six months minimum doing this stuff, right like, So,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: so somebody who just says, well I'm gonna drop in
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: and and do a seven round mock draft, uh even
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: though I'm covering another team or whatever, you know, and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: think that they can in two three weeks do this,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 9: then well you're not You're not really studying those players.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: Maybe maybe chat GBT or you know, or a thirty
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: second highlights on YouTuber what I don't know. But but
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: in any event, the uh uh with with this this
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 9: guy uh neil, he he can cover the go route
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 9: and then all the rest of it they can teach
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: and so the the the uh uh oh. Getting back
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 9: to my point, so I watch just the first round guys.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 9: I tell I only watch first round guys, and then
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 9: when the Seahawks get drafted, then I watch them, and
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: so my my eyes are already in tuned to watching
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: first rounders. So when I see mid rounders, you know,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 9: it generally pops off the tape pretty quickly. Oh, this
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: is why the guy's not a first rounder, right, Like
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 9: there's something that's preventing him from being a first rounder.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: And so in Julie and Neil, he looks like a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 9: first rounder in several aspects, but his transition doesn't. Yeah,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 9: it's a it's a it's just it's it's not first
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 9: roundish how he changes direction, So which is why is
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 9: the third rounder? But you know what, how many Pro
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 9: Bowls have been third rounder later at corner? You know,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 9: more than we could count.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, Hugh mellan is with us our QB one.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: It's our Monday Morning Quarterback Draft Edition two hours with
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Hugh breaking down the draft picks. I'm sure we'll have
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: more on Julian Neil coming up on the program, including
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: maybe we'll hear a little bit of that clip that
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: exchanged between Hugh and Julian as well. On the other side,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: I want to hear what Hugh has to say about
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: Bo Stevens, the guy that the Seahawks traded a pick
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: next year to get into this draft so that they
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: could grab the Iowa cards. So we'll do that next
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ A R
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  Speaker 3: F M.
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  Speaker 5: Julian.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to paint a scenario for you. It's in
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. It's a critical time.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: You get the huddle call or from the sideline. What's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 9: the coverage, what's the defense that you like the most
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 9: that you say, Yeah, that's the one I want to
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 9: be in, And what's your role in that?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: So we're in a.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 7: Front two five?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: Uh country country cover.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Three basically a true zone. Wait you said you say
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: we're in a fourth quarter?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, fourth quarter, any important situation. What's your favorite what's
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 9: your favorite defensive call?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: And you're rolling it.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 9: So you're saying you're playing Country covered three.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no no no, We're playing man.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna putch them. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: punch them. I'm gonna go tounch on somebody. I'm gonna
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: go punch on somebody. They're not getting gassed me. And
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: if you get passed, I'm gonna look back for the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: ball and I'm gonna get that simple and you're gonna
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: punch somebody right the line.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: Now, are you in off coverage or impress in this situation.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I'm in presis. I'm all up in your face. I'm
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: gonna get down and gurn you with it from home.
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  Speaker 5: There.
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  Speaker 3: It is the first of many future interviews exchanges. Now, no,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: you're just a gang truculent. I get that. I don't
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: know how many others.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 9: But and again there's some context there because he had
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: earlier in the interview, had had described all when he
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 9: plays in off coverage. He had been asked about that.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: You know, what he's looking at and how he loves
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 9: playing an off coverage you know, reading the concepts and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: what have you. So it meant he's expressing his versatility.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 9: But you hear the you know, honestly, you hear the
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 9: feistiness in his answer matches the feistiness on the field.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna ask you that because I mean,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: he talks a big game, he acts like he's a
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: physical guy. Does that show up in the game film study?
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it does. Yep, he comes down here. And I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 9: think that when you see corners go particularly high in
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 9: the draft from now on, you're you're not gonna see
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 9: anybody who is is you know, middle of the road
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 9: on on support. That that is a big part of it.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 9: You know, Rek Woolen member, now he got benched by
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 9: Pete Carroll for you know, lack of will uh in
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: in the run support. And so it's something they just
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 9: kind of managed.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: He brought so many traits that that he demanded to
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: be put on the field. Talking about Wooln but when
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 9: they're targeting those traits they want, they're gonna want a
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 9: guy who gets nasty coming downhill on screens and outside
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: runs and and yeah he puts that on tape. All right,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: that's a big part of what and and and uh again, Chuck,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 9: I'm just telling you. They they figured they did a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 9: hell of a job predicting for their first three picks.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 9: They they figured Julian Love would be right there. They
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: didn't want to, uh, they would have liked to have
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 9: have traded down a few spots, but when they you know,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 9: all the trade partners dried up, they just said, let's
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 9: not get cute here, Let's get the guy we want
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: Price that that that was absolutely to targeted. And then
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: as we said, the Julian Neil there in the third round,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 9: Bud Clark in the second round. Those guys were targeted
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: and predicted to be available in Seattle, you know, took their.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Guys humillanus with us Monday Morning Quarterback Draft edition. We've recapped,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: we've talked about everybody drafted on today's program, with the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: exception of Jadari and Price. And I did that intentionally.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: We got some analysis on Price back on Friday show,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: and so here on Monday, I wanted to get to
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: the guys we haven't analyzed broken down here on Chuck
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: and Buck in the morning. So we took care of
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: that in our last hour. So let's go back, circle
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: back to that first round draft selection Jadari and Price
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: thirty second overall out of Notre Dame. And now that
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: you've had an entire weekend to think about it, what
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: do we feel about him being the Seahawks first selection.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 9: Well, I feel good about it because I think it's
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 9: the number one need. I think that that they feel
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 9: that he was the number two running back on the board. Obviously,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 9: Jeremiah Love was in a whole nother cut of steak
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 9: and unavailable to them, had they unless they wanted to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 9: really expand resources to climb up to three or higher
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 9: to get him, right, Yeah, So you know, I like
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 9: Mike Washington. I thought there was well, it'll be interesting
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 9: to watch him. He went early in the fourth, right, Yeah,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 9: he didn't go until the fourth to the Raiders.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but that doesn't mean you know, Charle Davis didn't
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 9: go until the sixth, you know, so, so I don't
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 9: think that that signifies anything. And Seattle's had three second
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 9: round draft pick running backs, and you know, and and
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 9: with in addition to Rossard, Penny was the twenty seventh pick,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 9: so you know, four guys that that were drafted right
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: around then, and you know, kind of mixed results, right
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 9: christ and Michael was a second round pick. Now I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 9: was later in the second round. But in an event,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 9: I'm yeah, he asked me, I'm I'm I'm really happy
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 9: that they got some competition there. This is a guy
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 9: that has great lateral quickness, I think, very good vision.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 9: Not much of a contributor in the past game from
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 9: a stats standpoint. They threw it to him seven times,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 9: he caught six.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: The seventh was uncatchable.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 9: But of those he uh uh, you know, he looks
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: like he's a natural in catching the football. So I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 9: think he can be a contributor in the passing game.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: And and uh, I just think it's his his lateral
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 9: quickness and vision is probably his best strengths. I think
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 9: he has good contact balance. I think the physical piece
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 9: is is you know, it's certainly not a plus. Uh
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 9: you know, A plus is Marshawn Lynch, you know, closing
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 9: the first circle of physicality on the football team, as
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 9: Pete Carroll would describe. So don't expect a guy that's,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 9: you know, gonna be an intimidating back, but very skilled.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 9: You know, there's a you watch the combine. There's a
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 9: drill that every NFL team I've ever seen or been on,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 9: they do the same drill with the running backs and
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 9: and basically the running back goes straight ahead with the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 9: ball and then a coach is going to take a
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 9: dumb and then move one way, and then that guy
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 9: has to go laterally like ninety degrees and then and
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 9: then go vertical again. And and it's kind of like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 9: a portion of an H you know, and kapital H
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 9: or something. You know it up, lateral up, and this
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 9: guy you see it on the game tape over and
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 9: over again. He just he's he's going someplace, he reacts,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 9: he's lateral. He looks like he looks like the the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 9: example that you would show young running backs. Okay, this
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 9: is how it's supposed to look, you know, just and
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 9: just beautiful feet that are well connected to is decision making.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 9: Smart guy, resilient, a lot of grit to him. So
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 9: other than the physical piece or you know, he doesn't
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 9: have great finishing with the physical and I think his
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 9: his top end speed is good but not elite. But
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: other than that, you know, very worthy of getting taking
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 9: a pick there, and given this year's draft and the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 9: need you had, Yeah, that's that's a real good pick.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You brought up twel Davis's name earlier. I mean
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: one of the things that people brought up with his
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: success was that because you didn't have transferring wasn't easy
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: back then, and and because he didn't get the ball
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: much in Georgia, like all the tread was on his
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: tires as a running back when he got to the
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: National Football League. And you can say that maybe not
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: all of it, but Jadarian pricely got a lot of
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: tread left. He didn't get a lot of carries because
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: he's backing up Jeremiah Love. But on the flip side
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: of that, also a two hundred and three pound guy
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: that we've not seen go through an entire game being
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: the bell cow ball carrier, and I'm not sure he'll
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: ever fill that role with the Seattle Seahawks. The way
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: that we divvy up carries in the National Football League
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: today and the way they divvied up carries last year
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: on this particular in this particular organization. But marry those
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: two together, wave them against the other to get a
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: running back that really didn't really take much abuse in college.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: But also he never went through the proving ground to
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: show that he can take abuse.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the knife cuts both ways, right. I mean, as
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 9: soon as you're the more you want to laud how
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 9: much Trendy has on his tire, then by necessity you
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 9: are acknowledging that he didn't really have a workload.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: In college.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 9: He touched the ball, counting receptions a little under eight
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 9: point two touches per game, and you know you'd want
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 9: to be close to double that at the NFL level,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 9: So you know, it's.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: A little bit of a concern.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 9: He goes from the number two running back for Notre Dame,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 9: who has a relative. I mean, Notre Dame's got a
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 9: sexy brand, right, Like, who doesn't know Notre Dame. That
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 9: sounds pretty cool. Hey, you're from Notre Dame and and
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 9: you know coach Freeman there. You know, they're they're bringing
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 9: a high caliber of dude, and this guy's a high
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 9: caliber of dude. But they're not playing a great schedule. Yeah,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 9: they play the Miami Hurricanes, and I'm not saying they
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 9: didn't have some quality opponents, but they're not playing a
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 9: Big ten schedule. They live in Big ten country, but
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: they don't play a Big ten schedule. And so not
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 9: only did he not you know, have a great workload,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 9: it was against relatively soft competition.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 9: That was more like a you know, Big twelve schedule
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 9: at best, you know, or an ACC schedule at best.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 9: You know, a couple of good opponents, but that's not
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 9: a SEC or Big ten schedule that Notre Dame's playing.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: And then the other part is outside zone is his
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna get a little technical on the x's and
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: no'se here outside zones his specialty. Well, excuse me, he says,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 9: it's his specialty. You watch the tape, and he has
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 9: more inside zone and duo and and power than he
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 9: has outside zone. But he did a run a fair
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 9: number of outside zones. It was mostly from the offset position.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 9: What do I mean by that? He lined up on
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 9: the left. We talked about this. I'll just repeat it
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 9: real quickly. He lines up on the left of the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 9: quarterback instead of behind the quarterback. And so his reads
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 9: as he looked at he's reading the end man to hook.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 9: That's a farther distance for him to travel. So his
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 9: reads would would more likely to cause him to turn
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 9: up and go inside in the middle because he would
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 9: look at the tight end trying to hook the defensive
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 9: end and he says, well, I can't, I can't get
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 9: to the stretch. I better go up north and you know,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 9: go in the A gap or the B gap, you know,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 9: go over the guard or even the backside guard. So
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 9: his reads are going to be different. You don't see
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 9: as many reads where where. If he was behind the
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 9: center and he's closer to that block, his read would
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 9: more likely to take him to have to bounce it
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 9: outside at that juncture, we'd be able to evaluate his
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 9: speed and his ability to get to the edge. The
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 9: only time he got to the edge is a notre dame,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 9: was when it was just blocked like so clean, it's
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 9: like anybody could have gone there, you know. And so
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 9: I think that the timing of the of the outside
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 9: zone is going to change for him on his reads.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 9: It'll be interesting to see when the read declares him
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: to go outside. And again you're just saying, okay, aj Barner,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 9: he's trying to get to the outside shoulder of that
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 9: defender that defenders coached. No, I need to keep my
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 9: outside shoulder free. So generally, more often than not, the
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 9: defensive end, the n man will win that battle because
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 9: that's his responsibility. But on the times where the tight
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 9: end does win the battle, and that's a green light
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 9: to go wide towards the sideline does Now we see
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 9: the burst that Kenneth Walker has. He reads and he goes, okay, okay,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 9: stretch go time, green light go and and then boom
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 9: you see the burst. Remember now, Canine had the second
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 9: fastest ten yard split of any running back over in
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 9: a ten year period. And and you know Price didn't
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 9: you know, it shows up quicker in the tape than
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 9: the the stop watch showed. But but you know, there's
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 9: there's some real nuance to hey, do you have the
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 9: burst to get outside if the retakes you outside. I'm
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 9: going to be interested to watch to be able to
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  Speaker 9: answer that question.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like Hugh Millen is satisfied draft wise
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: with the boxes that the Seahawks did check. But man,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: you can't cover all you can't keep all the plates spinning.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: Is there an area that you kind of wish the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Seahawks would have addressed? Or if nothing else, you didn't
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: have enough chips to cover the roulette wheel and so
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: maybe it didn't get covered. Yeah, I'm not the first
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: to say it.
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  Speaker 9: I think the losing Boy Mafey and the idea that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: you want to have a rotation if they had four
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 9: quality guys, you know, two older guys in Nuosu and
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 9: DeMarcus Lawrence and then and then two younger guys and
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 9: Derek Hall and and Boy Mafey and and so I
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 9: thought that that was a real nice combination. And to
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 9: lose twenty five percent of that, you know, is a
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 9: little bit of concern. But I want I've said it
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 9: before I want it. I'm gonna say it again. Write
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 9: this down. Jared Ivy, six foot six, he's been you know,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 9: he's been lingering by the scenes with no varse real
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 9: varsity time. He's measuring two hundred and eighty pounds, a
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 9: solid to eighty. That guy is going to be a
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 9: factor for this football team. And you know, and Jeremiah Pritchett,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 9: you know, to a lesser extent on the end. H
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 9: Connor o'tool like I think that the Seahawks feel like
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 9: they have guys. They didn't when the defensive ends were
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 9: were getting plucked off. They didn't think that they had
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 9: the value at defensive end that they they had at
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 9: the dbs. And so they said, instead of getting a
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 9: slightly lesser quality defensive man, let's just get a higher
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 9: quality dB. So that you know, that's a little bit
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 9: of a concern, you know, you look at this, Chuck.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 9: So the Seahawks won the Super Bowl in convincing fashion,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 9: so you're you're left to think, well, they're you know,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 9: a dominant team. But had the Rams been in the
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 9: AFC and you'd played them in the Super Bowl, it
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 9: would have been a Super Bowl for the Ages right
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 9: down to the wire and the Seahawks or Super Bowl champions,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 9: and you go, wow, that's that's that's really a close.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 9: So now let's just take the think of it like
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 9: a horse race. But as we know horse races, they
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 9: all line up at an even spot. But just as
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 9: a thought experiment, let's say now they're staggered. I mean
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 9: kind of like you see on a on a track,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 9: on a on a four hundred meter right, they're they're
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 9: they're staggered based on how they finished last year. So
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks they're there. They are a horse in the
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: horse race that is that starts with the lead, and
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 9: the Rams are just behind them. And then of course
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 9: you got the Cardinals way in the back, and and
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 9: uh you know the Jets, you know, way in the back,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 9: and they're stack right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so this this is this.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 9: Horse race is called the twenty twenty six horse race.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 9: So so right after the Super Bowl, the morning after
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 9: the Super Bowl, all the teams are in the blocks.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 9: All excuse me, all the horses in the blocks, because
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 9: again this is the thought experiment. Since then, the other
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: teams have been able to catch up more to the
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 9: Seahawks on paper, I mean, you know, just look at
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 9: who Seattle brought in and who they lost if you
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 9: don't count Malik Willis because he's actually a backup, and
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 9: it doesn't really affect the Packers when they're on the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 9: field because Jordan Love is their quarterback, right if you
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 9: don't count Malik Willis. The Seahawks they had the most
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 9: net losses by guaranteed money and contracts of any team,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 9: So that means that the Horses got a little closer
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 9: to the Seahawks. And then going into the draft, they
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 9: only had four picks, the lowest amount, and so all
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 9: the teams that had you know, more draft value and
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 9: more picks, they got a little closer. So the Seahawks
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 9: are still starting you know, you know or you know,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: the you know ahead, but everybody else has closed a gap.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 9: So the question is was the gap big enough that
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 9: they can they can withstand it? And I mean that's
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 9: kind of the picture from my end. But but in
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 9: you know, looking at the Rams, you know, an interesting
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 9: thing happened with them at thirteen that we'll talk about,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 9: But that's kind of the is that a fair way
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 9: of eshing that?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And that way, I mean, that's the way that that's
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: why we have the draft. That's why it's set up
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: this way, is that some of those teams that are
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: behind have some advantages that they didn't earn and to
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: try to close the gap, and the good teams with
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: the good front offices will do it, and the bad
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: teams with the bad front offices always do seem to
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: remain a step or two behind. That's just kind of
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: how it's all set up. And fortunately for us, we've
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: got one of those organizations that's one of the good
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: ones that does the right things.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 9: It's interesting the NFL in their would i'd say wisdom.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 9: They they are very married to this idea of parody.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 9: I think the mayor is the owner of the giants.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 9: If you read the history of it. There's a book
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 9: called America's Game by I believe Michael McCambridge. I've read
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 9: years ago. It's about six hundred and twenty pages of
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 9: the history of the NFL and how influential the mayors
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 9: were the owners of the giants to say, no, we
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 9: need to share all the revenue. We're not going to
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 9: act like George Steinbrener, you know, who didn't exist then.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 9: But but you know, think of it that way, and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 9: you know the Steelers and the Packers are going to
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 9: get just as much. And we have to have you know,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 9: the worst teams draft first, and and we they want
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 9: to prevent dynasty. Now, think of college football, where you know,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 9: they're even in recent negotiations about okay, how are we
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 9: going to have any kind of super conference or what
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 9: have All the teams that are at the top are
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 9: demanding that they get they get more, uh more of
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 9: a share of the revenue. Right you know, have you
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 9: read about this the you know, the Alabama and the
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 9: and the Georgia and the Ohio State, all of those
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 9: say no, no, no, we're going to get more than
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 9: the others, you know. And and so college football is
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 9: designed to prevent dynasty, uh excuse me, perpetuate dynasties. Pro
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 9: football is designed to prevent dynasties. So so see I
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 9: was trying to have a dynasty. Right, the whole league
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 9: and its structure is conspiring against them. And so we'll
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 9: see how they can battle those forces that work against them.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 9: You know, drafting last in every round, and you know,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 9: the toughest schedule, they'll have the number one schedule, and
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 9: and all.
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  Speaker 3: The other things yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and you
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: look ahead to next year, I mean there'd be a
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: lot of guys leaving NUOSU and Lawrence who's already talked
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: about retirement. Cooper Cups probably near in the end, Jaron
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: Reid's probably near in the end. So it's probably going
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: to be a good thing to have ten picks next
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: year because there might be a few more veterans that
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: are that are exiting the operation. Hugh Mellan is with us.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: We are Monday Morning Quarterback Draft edition here today, and
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: we've talked thoroughly about the Seattle Seahawks and what they
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: did over the course of their three days of drafting.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: But there are thirty one other teams in the league,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: and I want to get Hughes thoughts what stood out
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: to him about what everybody else did at the draft.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Well, of course,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: the NFL Draft has come to a close and it
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: was just the Seahawks that drafted this weekend. There are
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of interesting storylines, a lot of fun stuff
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: out there to break down. And Hugh Millan did all
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: that work, all of that research to make sure on
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: the Maler Millon mock draft and during our draft coverage
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: that he was prepared, and yes, he sounded very prepared.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: Joined us here today for some Monday morning quarterback draft edition,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: and so we should use all of that knowledge. We
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: should show it off. We should showcase it here this
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: morning and get his thoughts on what happened in the
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: draft of league wide. But I do want to start
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: with the Rams. We had a conversation about it Friday,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: and Sean McVay has since gone out of his way
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: to try to explain Hugh that he was just trying
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: to protect Matthew Stafford, that he is in fact in
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: lockstep with less Need, that he really likes Ty Simpson
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: and glad he's part of the organization. But you've had
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: a couple of days away from it. Here we sit
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: on a Monday morning. What is your evaluation of all
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: of that drama that went down in the pick itself. Well,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: the default would be that Sean McVay would be highly
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: valued by the Rams and they would never want to
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: thrust upon him. You know, who's an offensive guru a
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: quarterback that he doesn't want, right, So the default is
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: that that he would sign off on it. What's peculiar
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: to me is the guy they signed off on because
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: I just go to Jared Goff, who was the number
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: one overall pick, who made two Pro Bowls as a RAM,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: took him to a Super Bowl, had a season where
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: he was first in the NFL in the yards per
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: completion and net yards per attempt.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 9: I had another year where he's number one and pass attempts.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, this guy was a a certainly a quality quarterback,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 9: and and yet they they sent two number ones and
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 9: Jared Goff to the Lions to get Matthew Stafford. So
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 9: it's what did Stafford provide like that should be on
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 9: some level a tell that of what Sean McVay needs
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 9: that get. You know, what is what does Stafford give
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 9: you that Goff doesn't. And you know, you look and
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 9: you say, there's a an idea that GoF just kind
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 9: of needs to be in a system right that that
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 9: he cannot elevate.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: You know, he cannot.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 9: Play above the system and the structure. He has to
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 9: have the protection, doesn't have the arm, you know, and
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 9: you know Stafford he can. You know, he played in
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 9: Detroit bad teams. You know he can throw off angle,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 9: but but really more than anything. He just to drive
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 9: the football. He just has this elite one of the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 9: best arms that's ever played in the National Football League.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: And so so if you you take.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 9: Golf and you put Ty Simpson and Matthew Stafford in
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 9: golf and then you have to rank them, well, golf
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 9: is going to be in the middle of all of
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 9: those attributes. Stafford is going to be the best. It's
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 9: Simpson's going to be the worst. And so you know,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 9: now there's other things about Simpson's game and and and
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 9: maybe some of his deterioration really had to do with
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 9: the injury halfway through the season. So I'll put an
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 9: asterisk on that. But you're talking about six to one
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 9: quarterback with not a real strong arm and uh and
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 9: not you know, not you know, you know, extraordinary playmaking ability.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 9: Off script, it just seems seems odd that they would, uh,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 9: they would make that that that that uh, that evaluation
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 9: of Stafford.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: We got to have that.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 9: But then they would turn around and say, but but
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 9: the guy that replaces him, you know, has all of
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 9: these you know, wolfully short at those those critical attributes
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 9: that that he had over Goff. Does that I don't
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 9: know if I'm making sense to it, But it doesn't
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 9: make sense to me.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe the plan is that, hey, we
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: just do it again. We trade Simpson and five first
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: round picks for Josh Allen in three years. Yeah, maybe,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know. There's a pretty smart down there. I
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: wouldn't put it pass them. All Right, So let's talk
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: about they just draft overall. I don't I don't even
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: want to guide you anywhere in case there's some nugget
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: out there that stood out to you that you definitely
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: want to get to. But is there one pick, or
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: one team or one situation that you found particularly interesting
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: from this weekend's draft?
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 9: I think the entire draft is interesting. But let's let's
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 9: focus on the Chiefs and their decision. Remember now, who
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 9: are the Kansas City Chiefs. Well, their quarterback by Pat Mahomes,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 9: thought to be the greatest quarterback of our generation. They
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 9: were two time champions, and and if Seattle's going to
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: try and repeat, it's not unfathomable that you'd have to
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 9: go through the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, Right? Is
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 9: that a fair assertion? I think what they did they
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 9: trade McDuffie and I and I went through all the
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 9: the three different draft value charts, the Jimmy Johnson, the
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 9: Rich Hill, and the Fitzpielberger charts, and and that might
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: be a little too nerdy for some, but but you're
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 9: you're really just kind of saying, Okay, what was the
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 9: Chief's thoughts about this? They have they have a quarterback
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 9: with a high cap number now, and and what are
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 9: they going to do? So they get rid of McDuffie,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 9: and that was for the twenty ninth pick, right, But
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 9: then they turn around and they have to trade up
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 9: to get Monsieur de Layton from the ninth spot. They
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 9: become so dependent the Rams pick up not just O. J.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: McDuffie or O J. McDuffie, but you know, I was
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 9: going to do it at some point Trent McDuffie, Right,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 9: I played with OJ McDuffie with Dolphins anyway. And and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 9: they get you know, they get two corners from the Chiefs,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 9: And really what it all comes down to is that
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 9: that Brett Veach the GM of the Chiefs, and with
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 9: Andy Reid's blessing, presumably effectively what they did they traded
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 9: Trent McDuffie the Husky, a third rounder and a fifth
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 9: rounder for Monsieur delaying the sixth overall pick and also
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 9: a late round debt pick. So I think, I think,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 9: I just think it's interesting what teams are doing to
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 9: kind of deal with the salary cap impact of their
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 9: high prey price quarterbacks. And you know, will the Bills
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 9: do something like this with Josh Allen? But but you know,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 9: you think of like, Okay mcduffy, one of the best
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 9: corners leaves the building.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, what are we going to do here?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 9: Well, now, the Chiefs necessitate moving up all the way
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 9: to the sixth pack, from from just nine to six
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 9: to make sure they get their guy in Monsieur the
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 9: top corner of the draft. So interesting the Chiefs, they
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 9: get younger, they get cheaper at corner, replacing you know,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 9: arguably one of the best corners and certainly the highest
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 9: paid corners in the league.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: And McDuffie. Yeah, well, in a year from now, depending
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: on what we pay Sam Donald, we might have to
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: make similar kind of you know, adjustments to the investor
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: into the payroll.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so that that in a way almost necessitates Seattle,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 9: you know, being you know, we're in now mode, right,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 9: and which is you know, maybe one of the reasons
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 9: why you got Rashid Shahat, and maybe that'll affect decisions
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 9: that while you have Sam Darnold, that a very manageable
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  Speaker 9: you know, I know he's eighteenth or nineteenth last year
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  Speaker 9: in cap Hit. I'll have to look at what it'll
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  Speaker 9: be for next year, but it's very manageable for now. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 9: and so but anyways, I thought the Chiefs were interesting
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  Speaker 9: among many, you know, almost all of them. I could
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  Speaker 9: go through ten others, but I thought the Chiefs were interested.
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  Speaker 3: What did you make of the Cardinals and the Jeremiah
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  Speaker 3: of I've had a couple of different conversations with people
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  Speaker 3: that didn't agree with my assessment, and my assessment is simply, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that you ever go broke in the
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  Speaker 3: National Football League by just drafting great players. You can
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  Speaker 3: try to get cute and you try to put the
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  Speaker 3: you know, build the cart before you buy the horse.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I get that argument, but I think too
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  Speaker 3: many teams try and play that game. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: got a horse. I think it was a smart move
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  Speaker 3: by the Arizona Cardinals, regardless of position, to get a
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  Speaker 3: guy that can help them in both the running game
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  Speaker 3: and the passing game. I mean, as a Seahawk fan,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want to face Jeremiah Love two times
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  Speaker 3: per year for the next ten years, and that's the
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  Speaker 3: potential that you're going to face. I realized that just
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  Speaker 3: getting a running back doesn't turn around the Arizona Cardinals overnight.
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  Speaker 3: But I do believe that they made a wise decision
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  Speaker 3: and just taking their favorite player and we'll build the
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  Speaker 3: rest of it over the course of time. Well, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think there's any question.
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  Speaker 9: If you go back a couple of years ago, you know,
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  Speaker 9: the draft that had six quarterbacks in the top twelve,
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  Speaker 9: I'm sure they would have taken a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: At least I think they would have.
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  Speaker 9: I think in years past there's been offensive tackles on
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  Speaker 9: rare occasions that are number one overall, but certainly there's
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  Speaker 9: offensive tackles that weren't a top three, four or five pick.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think Francis Malingoa or Spencer Fano or Caden
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  Speaker 9: Proctor or any of the tackles were worthy of the
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  Speaker 9: number three pick when you compare it to Jeremiah Love.
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  Speaker 9: Jeremiah Love just you know, at a position of need
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  Speaker 9: for them and almost from a you know, let's get
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  Speaker 9: some juice in the building type of thing with the
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  Speaker 9: fans and create an energy and a buzz you know
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  Speaker 9: what that that actually helps your entire team. Like you say, well,
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  Speaker 9: that's just fluff and marketing.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 9: If you have if you have more people passing about
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  Speaker 9: your team and they create an environment, a home field advantage,
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  Speaker 9: which you know they have a dome, they can, they can,
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  Speaker 9: they can create some noise and in No. Eight in
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  Speaker 9: that Super Bowl run you were weren't you in Phoenix
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  Speaker 9: at the time when when the during the eight run?
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  Speaker 5: Ah?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, yes, So so you know the it's not a
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  Speaker 9: fan base that is easily inclined to uh to get
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  Speaker 9: revved up about the Cardinals, but if you show them
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  Speaker 9: a great team, uh, they can. And so I think
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  Speaker 9: that there's a piece there, like let's get some juice here,
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  Speaker 9: and Love is just a running back without a weakness.
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  Speaker 9: Really yeah, And so I think it was a really
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  Speaker 9: good pick for them. You can say, well, okay, who's
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  Speaker 9: gonna block from Yeah, you can, you can figure out
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  Speaker 9: that piece. But you know, guys like Love only come
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  Speaker 9: around every three or four years. I'm not gonna go
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  Speaker 9: hyperbolic and say he's a once in a generation. You know,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 9: that term's thrown out a lot, and I go, wait
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  Speaker 9: a minute, is a generation twenty or twenty five years?
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  Speaker 9: I promise you that there's a running back in the
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  Speaker 9: last twenty or twenty five years this is as good
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  Speaker 9: as Jeremiah Love. But I would also say that most years,
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  Speaker 9: at least in the last twenty eighth that I've been
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  Speaker 9: covering it, the majority of the years, there's not a
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  Speaker 9: running back as good as Jeredmiah Love.
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  Speaker 3: He's a top you know, every three to four year guy.
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  Speaker 3: Well I just look back, look back at twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the Cardinals in a similar situation, they took
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  Speaker 3: Paris Johnson. He's a good player, good tackle, good offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 3: and that was supposed to be a foundational piece. Two
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  Speaker 3: picks later v Jean Robinson, and then three picks later Tennessee,
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  Speaker 3: Well we got to you know, we got to build
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  Speaker 3: with the interior first, and let's get Peter Skarnski, the
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  Speaker 3: tackle out of Northwestern. He's turned out to be an
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  Speaker 3: okay player. But the very next pick's Jamior Gibbs, and
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  Speaker 3: it's a okay well, you know, I mean I get
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: that the whole thing, the whole Space Shuttle's got to
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: be built here. Yeah, but I'd kind of like to
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  Speaker 3: if I got a chance to get a good rocket
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  Speaker 3: on on the cheap. I think I want to get
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  Speaker 3: the rocket and then I'll build the structure around that.
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  Speaker 3: How about how about we do that. Let's get the
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  Speaker 3: explosive element of it. And it's there's not just one
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  Speaker 3: way to build it. But when you've got to, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know Atlanta hasn't won a lot, and I know
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  Speaker 3: that Detroit's not won the Super Bowl with Gibbs, but
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  Speaker 3: do you think they regret those decisions way back in
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  Speaker 3: the day that they ended up with those two dudes,
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  Speaker 3: not a bit.
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  Speaker 9: And I think I spoke for four minutes and you
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  Speaker 9: made a better case in one minute that I made
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  Speaker 9: in four So yeah, I just all co sign on
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  Speaker 9: everything you just said.
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  Speaker 3: Those are great examples.
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  Speaker 5: And and you know.
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  Speaker 9: Paris Campbell, you know, he was really thought to be
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  Speaker 9: as you said, you know, if he's a Walter Jones type,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 9: then you kind of get it. But he hasn't had
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 9: that kind of impact. So the guys that touch the ball,
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  Speaker 9: and you're indirectly making my case about Canine and how
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  Speaker 9: I you know, the primacy of replacing him. So, and
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  Speaker 9: you got a quarterback, and whether it's Jacoby Brisset or
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 9: now they draft Carson Beck, or you know, they're they're
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: just you know, kind of wandering in the woods now
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 9: that they've let Kyler Murray go. And I would argue
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 9: they were wandering in the woods even when they had
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 9: Kyler Murray. They just need a quarterback and so they'll
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 9: have to address that piece later. This happened to have
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 9: been a draft where I think the Fernando Mendoza was
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 9: absolutely worth the number one pick, no hesitation there if
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 9: I'm the Raiders. But the drop off was extremely rare,
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  Speaker 9: the caliber from the first to the second. Guy Simpson
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  Speaker 9: thought to be say, well, from one to thirteen, isn't
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  Speaker 9: a big drop off? Well, we'll see, yeah, we'll see,
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  Speaker 9: we'll see. I thought that there was a bigger gap
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  Speaker 9: than and that gap would indicate all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, one more segment here Monday Morning Quarterback Draft Edition.
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