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INTERVIEW: Stephanie Ike Okafor Talks 'The Power Of Your Dreams,' Encountering God, Morality, Deja Vu + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The breakfast Club Morning, everybody in CJ N V jess hilarious,
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  Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, as on maternity leave, so Laura Ross is filling
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  Speaker 2: in and we got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 2: We have passed Stephanie E. K okafor did I say right?
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  Speaker 3: You said it?
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  Speaker 4: Good?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much, welcome, thank you to be here.
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  Speaker 3: I feel good.
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  Speaker 5: You related to the basketball player? No, okay, got you,
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  Speaker 5: got you, got you, got you. You got a new
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  Speaker 5: book out and not a power of your dreams. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I love a good dream book. I'm the type of
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  Speaker 5: person that I keep dream books by my bedside. When
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  Speaker 5: I wake up, I can look and see what certain
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  Speaker 5: things mean that will got you into wanting to write
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  Speaker 5: this book. No.
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  Speaker 3: So, I encountered God when I was nine years old,
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  Speaker 3: and one of the ways that was so consistent was
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  Speaker 3: that He will speak to me through dreams. And it's
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  Speaker 3: interesting when you talk about, you know, using like having
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  Speaker 3: books that tell you about symbols and things like that,
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  Speaker 3: because I think one of the reasons why maybe sometimes
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  Speaker 3: people don't even understand the fullness of dream is because
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  Speaker 3: they pick it apart, and the whole dream is telling
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  Speaker 3: the message. So if you only pick it apart, you
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  Speaker 3: may not understand the fullness of it. But dreams has
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  Speaker 3: been so consistent for me ever since nine years old.
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  Speaker 5: That is a great point because I never looked at
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  Speaker 5: the whole totality of my dream.
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  Speaker 6: I find like one thing that that stood out.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a web MD of dreams where people like
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  Speaker 3: get books or go on Google and you're like, you
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  Speaker 3: only look at one thing. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: things I talk about in the book, where you have
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  Speaker 3: to look at it like a whole story and to
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  Speaker 3: understand in each symbol to tell the you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of like tell what is the dreams really saying?
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  Speaker 2: That you said you had an account with God at
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  Speaker 2: the age of nine, Yeah, what was that encounter?
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  Speaker 4: What did he say? What was that conversation? What just
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  Speaker 4: enlightened us with what it was?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? So my father was murdered when I was eight
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  Speaker 3: months old, and so I grew up with like a
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  Speaker 3: lot of anger. And there was one day that you know,
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  Speaker 3: my mom was looking for this document and I was
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  Speaker 3: just like it was something that she really needed, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just for the times that we were in and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, man, God, you know, if you didn't take
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  Speaker 3: my father, it was just another reason why I got
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  Speaker 3: angry again. But that day literally like, I remember being
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  Speaker 3: in my room and I could feel like a presence
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  Speaker 3: in my room, but it wasn't scary. But then for
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  Speaker 3: a nine year old, it's like, bruh, who's in my room?
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  Speaker 7: You know?
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  Speaker 3: And I won't I go to my mom's room because
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, whatever is going on there, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: no part of it. So I got my mom's room.
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  Speaker 3: She's and she's up, she's in her bed. She's like,
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  Speaker 3: what are you doing. I was like, oh, and I
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  Speaker 3: just want to, you know, sleep, sleep in your room.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, okay, hop in. So the moment I hop
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  Speaker 3: in her bed, she's out cold, like not moving, not responding,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel the same presence again in her room.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't really believe in God at that age,
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  Speaker 3: but my mom has always been a strong believer, and
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  Speaker 3: so I didn't even know. Now I knew what was
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  Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit, then I didn't realize what made me
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  Speaker 3: ask the question. And I was like, God, if this
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  Speaker 3: is of you? Because I was thinking, okay, if this
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  Speaker 3: is my Mom's God, he can't harm me. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: if this is of you, cause win to float through
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  Speaker 3: ru my ankles and they were out of nowhere. The
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  Speaker 3: windows are not open, nothing there was like this wind
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  Speaker 3: that just flows through me. Because with my eyes closed,
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  Speaker 3: I could see a man sitting but his home makeup
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  Speaker 3: was like light. So then I removed like the covers
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  Speaker 3: of my eyes and I see him with my eyes open,
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  Speaker 3: sitting there and he gets up. He walks over to
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  Speaker 3: my mom and I start asking him questions because I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was God. And I was like, where were
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  Speaker 3: you with my dad? Dad? D da da da da,
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  Speaker 3: And he starts saying something. I had no clue what
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  Speaker 3: he was saying. He walks over to my mom. He
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  Speaker 3: opens her hand, he puts like this piece of paper
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  Speaker 3: in her hand, closes, it disappears. So when that happened,
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  Speaker 3: my mom gets up and I was like, Mom, so
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  Speaker 3: I opened her hand, there's nothing there. I'm like, Mom,
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  Speaker 3: like this just happened. Da da da da dah. She
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  Speaker 3: was like, Stephanie, I thought it was God. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: God was in the room. And she's like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it works like that. So she goes back to bed.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, Stephanie, I think you're tripping. She wakes up
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  Speaker 3: that morning, her pastor calls her and he was like, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I was in prayer and I just feel like to
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  Speaker 3: tell you that there was an angelic encounter in your home.
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  Speaker 3: But he didn't know to the degree of what he
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  Speaker 3: was even saying. And I was like, Mom, I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 3: this happened randomly. The document we had been literally ripping
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  Speaker 3: the whole house apart for just shows up on the
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  Speaker 3: table and then I'm like, wait, was that the document?
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  Speaker 3: Like was that what it symbolized? Like they put in
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  Speaker 3: our hand? And so I'm like, oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 3: met God. And then I stooded hearing the voice of
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  Speaker 3: God and it was like, dude, that was not me.
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  Speaker 3: That was an angel. And then he starts describing to
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  Speaker 3: me who angels are, but then points me to read
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  Speaker 3: the Bible. I had never really read the Bible, tells
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  Speaker 3: me what scriptures to read. I could hear it so clearly,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, Mom, I need a Bible. I need
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  Speaker 3: like a study a kid's Bible. And I'm like, so
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  Speaker 3: she's the one guiding me where to go to to
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  Speaker 3: read those scriptures and I'm literally seen in the scripture
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  Speaker 3: when it talks about angels and X, Y and Z.
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  Speaker 3: And after that, it was like something just unlocked for
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  Speaker 3: me spiritually. I said, at hearing the voice of God,
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  Speaker 3: I will have encounters and dreams. Some dreams was like
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  Speaker 3: a very like you know, just it didn't even need
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  Speaker 3: to be explained. The dream was literally like an encounter.
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  Speaker 3: And then some dreams were just like symbols that had
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  Speaker 3: hidden messages in it, and that became like my life
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  Speaker 3: ever since.
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  Speaker 7: Then.
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  Speaker 6: What did the angel look like?
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  Speaker 5: It looked like Homie from the Crossroads video.
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  Speaker 3: It was so he had like as he had a
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  Speaker 3: human form, but the only difference his home makeup was light.
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  Speaker 3: That was everything about him was like light radiating. So
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't even tell you what he how to describe
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  Speaker 3: his features because it was just light y.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I just won't to say I believe her
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  Speaker 5: because I've seen the same thing exactly like that.
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  Speaker 3: How old were you?
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  Speaker 5: I was actually old. That was in my teenage years,
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  Speaker 5: and I remember laying in the bed sleeping, and I
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  Speaker 5: thought I was dreaming, and it looked like my bedroom
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  Speaker 5: door burst it open, And when it bursted open, it
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  Speaker 5: was just this figure that was light.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it had a human form. I couldn't see a phase,
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  Speaker 6: but it had a human form, but it was just light.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What happened after that?
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  Speaker 4: Seeing aliens? To an alien came and got them too.
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  Speaker 3: I could tell you stories. We call them aliens, but
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  Speaker 3: they're really just monic spirits.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I believe you aliens shot him in the lake.
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  Speaker 5: Tell the story that we're having a real conversation about God,
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  Speaker 5: but he would try to interject you.
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  Speaker 7: She said that, like when she confirmed that you probably
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  Speaker 7: saw demonic it just I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It sits well with me, Like yeah, because angels really
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  Speaker 3: come in a way that their their presence, their essence
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  Speaker 3: is so radiating, but then they're also you can also
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  Speaker 3: have encounters with demonic spirits. That's also I've had. I
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  Speaker 3: could tell too many stories.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a mission that you feel like from seeing
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  Speaker 2: that and from having those conversations, do you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you were sent on a mission to do something?
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  Speaker 4: And do you know what that mission is?
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  Speaker 3: If so, I think not even I think everyone has
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  Speaker 3: their angels assigned to everyone on this earth. Like life
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  Speaker 3: is not just physical, it's actually more spiritual than physical.
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  Speaker 3: I think the difference is that there are times that
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  Speaker 3: you know, based on how God is working with someone,
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  Speaker 3: that he might open your eyes to see things at
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  Speaker 3: a younger age. And if you're not scared of it,
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  Speaker 3: if you don't run from it, and even if you do,
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  Speaker 3: you can always come back to the place where you're like, God,
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  Speaker 3: maybe I was scared, but show me again. And I
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  Speaker 3: believe that part of my calling, even on Earth, it's
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  Speaker 3: really to awaken people to the supernatural because it governs
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  Speaker 3: everything that we do in the natural realm. I was
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  Speaker 3: going to say, like for you, it was a lot
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  Speaker 3: more clear, but like I've had like not encounters or
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  Speaker 3: I saw something, but where things have happened, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: there's nothing but God. And I'll be like, God, do
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  Speaker 3: it again, so I know that this is like the thing,
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  Speaker 3: and then He'll do it again. So I myself, I'm
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  Speaker 3: always like, no, my faith is strong because He's talked
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  Speaker 3: to me shown that.
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  Speaker 7: But it took a couple of times. Some people think
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  Speaker 7: they're hearing things, but it might not be clear that
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  Speaker 7: is God to them. How do you coach people through
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  Speaker 7: being able to let that voice break through and understanding
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  Speaker 7: it is God.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the key things is from
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  Speaker 3: this the foundational element of it. Right, you don't need
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  Speaker 3: to read the Bible for God to speak to you,
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  Speaker 3: but you need to have an understanding of His voice
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  Speaker 3: in the Bible so that you're not deceived by the
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  Speaker 3: voices you hear. And so when you have a good
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  Speaker 3: foundation of knowing the voice of God, even in his word,
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  Speaker 3: then when you begin to hear him or you see
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  Speaker 3: things in the book. One of the things I talk about,
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  Speaker 3: even before I get into the subject of dreams, are
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  Speaker 3: the different ways we experience God's voice. Yeah, the four
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  Speaker 3: primary way. So there are some people who they are feelers, right,
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  Speaker 3: they can you know, God has emotions. The Bible talks
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  Speaker 3: about so many types of emotions. Peace, you know, love, anger,
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  Speaker 3: all these things. So there are people that you might
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  Speaker 3: walk into a room there's a deal on the table
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  Speaker 3: for you, everything checks off, But then you don't. You're
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  Speaker 3: not at peace with this. Something is like messing up
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  Speaker 3: with you, Like, I don't think this is for me.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is that if we don't have a god
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  Speaker 3: consciousness about life, we think it's us feeling that way.
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  Speaker 3: But the Lord is trying to share his emotions with you, like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not in that. You know, it might look good
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  Speaker 3: on paper, but I'm not in that. So those are
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  Speaker 3: people that feel. There are people that know. There's some
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  Speaker 3: people that just have an instinctive knowing, and for many
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  Speaker 3: that is more heightened when you're a kid like you
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  Speaker 3: and Mede a child and you're like, what do you
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  Speaker 3: want to be? You know, sometimes they just say random stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but they're kids that just know what they want to
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  Speaker 3: be and it has nothing connected to their parents, like
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  Speaker 3: their family members were never in that field of work.
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  Speaker 3: But they see something, they're exposed to something, and they
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  Speaker 3: just have a knowing. Wait, I'm supposed to be in
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  Speaker 3: this field. I'm supposed to do this. I'm supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be an actress. And it's just this instinctive knowing. Because
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  Speaker 3: there's a beauty with being a child, there's not Your
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  Speaker 3: intelligence is not in the way the older we get
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  Speaker 3: our wisdom blocks us from discerning the voice of God
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  Speaker 3: because we're trying to, you know, I'll think it. We're
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  Speaker 3: overthinking it, rather like where did this come from? Where
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  Speaker 3: did that come from? And then there's the hearers. There
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  Speaker 3: are people who you know audibly. It's more rare to
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  Speaker 3: hear the Voice of God audibly now, but you can
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  Speaker 3: also He also speaks in the form of thoughts. So
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  Speaker 3: there are these distinctive thoughts or series of thoughts that
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  Speaker 3: you would really like hear in your head. And it
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  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with how you will naturally think,
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  Speaker 3: how you will naturally like, you know, think about a matter.
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  Speaker 3: The same way that anxiety has a voice, you know,
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  Speaker 3: pain has a voice. The Lord also speaks to you
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  Speaker 3: through your thoughts and then they're seers. And that's where
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  Speaker 3: dreams come in. Right There are people where you're dreaming,
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  Speaker 3: you see visions. There's something called open visions where you
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  Speaker 3: might even be you feel as though you were somewhere
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  Speaker 3: and then you're back in your body, you know. But
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  Speaker 3: all these things are ways that we can experience the
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  Speaker 3: voice of God. But the foundation is if you don't
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  Speaker 3: know how he speaks in the Bible, then you can
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  Speaker 3: easily get deceived.
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  Speaker 6: So feel knowing, hearing, seeing and seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So how do you break down some of those
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  Speaker 2: those dreams? Right cause you talk about the power of
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  Speaker 2: your dreams? Yah, I'm sure probably the biggest dream that
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  Speaker 2: people have.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure somebody falling.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what does that mean when somebody is falling,
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  Speaker 2: or when you when people feel like they see somebody
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  Speaker 2: coming in from their past life.
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  Speaker 3: You said, passed like like a loved one who passed away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a loved one that passed away. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: For me, it's I remember when my my wife's father
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  Speaker 2: passed away, right, And it was the weirdest thing.
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  Speaker 4: We had balloons downstairs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was her birthday, and my wife, out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere, just started thinking about her dad. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if this was whatever it was, but out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere, like midnight one am, the balloons that were
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  Speaker 2: in the kitchen actually blew.
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  Speaker 4: Up the stairs and came into the bedroom.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: It freaked me.
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  Speaker 4: The fuck out freaked me to fuck out.
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  Speaker 6: That helium balloons.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were healing balloons.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they would rise. He would think, fish.
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  Speaker 6: Up the stairs and.
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  Speaker 3: Experience with God.
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  Speaker 1: But it could have went to any one of the
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  Speaker 1: bedrooms in the house.
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  Speaker 3: It went right to the bench. That's why you're talking
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  Speaker 3: an alien shot him.
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  Speaker 5: In the foot exactly. No, I believe I believe that
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  Speaker 5: was I believe that was it. I believe that was
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  Speaker 5: a sign. I believe that was him.
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  Speaker 6: I really do. I'm not doing it this sound.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, no, but it was out of my house, out
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  Speaker 2: of any where those balloons could have went. And the
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  Speaker 2: fact that she was talking about her dad and crying
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  Speaker 2: over him several hours earlier just made me feel like them.
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  Speaker 2: There are signs and there are angels. So how do
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  Speaker 2: you you know, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Break down different dreams. What do the different dreams mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So in the book I talk about just different
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  Speaker 3: types of dreams, because the key thing, even before you
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  Speaker 3: get into that, is to know why we dream, right God,
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  Speaker 3: I mean? And their dreams can come from different places.
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  Speaker 3: A dream can come from you, a dream can come
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  Speaker 3: from God. A dream can come from you know, the enemy.
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  Speaker 3: But when it comes from God. God has a desire
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  Speaker 3: to has a desire to speak to us more than
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  Speaker 3: we even desire to hear from him. Because regardless of
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  Speaker 3: where we find ourselves in life, regardless of how successful
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  Speaker 3: we perceive ourselves to be, regardless of all the things
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  Speaker 3: we have going on, we are first His creation and
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  Speaker 3: there's something there. Your life is not random. He desires
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  Speaker 3: to do life with you, He desires to partner with you.
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  Speaker 3: And so there are types of dreams like especially when
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  Speaker 3: people see their you know loved ones who had passed on.
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  Speaker 3: Those could be encouragement dreams. Now, how the dream is
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  Speaker 3: presented matters, because when someone passes away, they are they
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  Speaker 3: lose consciousness of the physical realm. But that does not
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  Speaker 3: mean that who they are, their essence is gone, right.
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  Speaker 3: They're transitioning to a different life, you know, whether that's
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  Speaker 3: with the Lord or you know the opposite. Nobody wants that,
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  Speaker 3: but they're transitioning now to like an eternal life, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in the spiritual realm. But they don't technically have You
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  Speaker 3: can see them in dreams and most people would have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, these dreams where they don't speak, they just appear,
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  Speaker 3: They just show themselves, right, because those realms are now
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  Speaker 3: they're different realms, right, So you might see them in
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  Speaker 3: a dream, and the purpose of that dream is just
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  Speaker 3: the Lord trying to bring comfort to you and encourage
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  Speaker 3: you that, yes you don't have your loved one with you,
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  Speaker 3: but they're not fully absent. They're not fully just gone.
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  Speaker 3: You know who they are, the core of who they are,
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  Speaker 3: like their spirit man is still with him.
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  Speaker 2: What about the opposite side of that scale, the dream
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  Speaker 2: where you dream that you die.
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  Speaker 3: That is a dream that now that could be warning dreams.
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  Speaker 3: So we had this was president This was President Lincoln,
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  Speaker 3: I believe. So he had a dream right before he
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  Speaker 3: was assassinated. He literally had a warning dream. And in
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  Speaker 3: the dream, he's walking, you know, through the White House
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  Speaker 3: and he hears people mourning and he's like, hey, what's
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  Speaker 3: going on? And somebody tells him in the dream the
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: president has been assassinated, and he's like wait what And
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: he's literally watching them mourn him, and he's like almost
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: like a funeral service. He wakes up. The problem is
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: he has that type of dream. So it's recorded that
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: he told people close to him the dream. But then
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: if no one understands, like, hey, regardless of who you are,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: God is still trying to get a message to you.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: If he understood the weight of the dream, he would
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: have counseled every activity that was coming up. But he
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: kept his scheduleized normal, and a few days after that
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: he was assassinated.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Doesn't that doesn't that, I guess the right word is
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: in the gate. Doesn't that negate your faith in God?
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: If you do that, if somebody, if you have a
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: dream and something bad it's gonna happen to you. And
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: then you just automatically cancel everything. It's like, where does
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: God come in the plane.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: So here's the thing. You know, we have this thing
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: where we say, like, you know, is God in control
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: of life and all these things? Yes, But the Bible
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: says the earth has he given to man. Now what
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: that means is that let me even go go back
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: a little bit, even Jesus. Right before Jesus could do
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: what he was purpose to do on earth, he had
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: to come through a human vessel in order to execute it. Now,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: this is God. God is eternal, God is all powerful.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: He could have just spoken and rewritten history. But in
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: order for us to be real deemed, Jesus had to
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: come through the flesh. Why because the flesh gives you
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: legal rights to do things on earth. So when we
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: look at God, there's a reason why God desires to
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: partner with us. It's just like even the reason we pray.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: You know, why would Jesus tell us when you pray?
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Not if you pray. The reason we pray is because
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: we're saying, hey, God, I'm in agreement with what you're
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: doing and you can do it through me. The Bible
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: also talks about that before God reveals, before God does anything,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: he reveals it. The Bible says to his servants, the prophets,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: it's not even about people being prophets per se, but
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: that there is this prophetic stream that someone needs to
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: be aware of what God wants to do so that
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: they can partner with him in prayer. And so when
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: God reveals something to you in a dream, God doesn't
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: speak to gossip or just to be like, hey, heads up.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: He speaks so that there is partnership. There is something
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: that needs to be counseled, there is something that needs
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: to change. I'll give you an example. I had a
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: dream one day and in the dream I saw a
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: calendar and on the calendar there was a particular date
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: circled in red. And then in the dream, I hear
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: pray for your brother concerning that day. So I wake
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: up from the dream. My brother's in Chicago. He flips
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: properties in Chicago, and I tell him I was like, hey,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: on this day, be really careful about your movements, right,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: And so I just start praying, and I just start
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: praying for God's protection over him. I'm like, whatever has
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: been a sign to his life because I literally saw death,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, whatever is trying to, you know, take
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: him before his time. God just cancel it in prayer.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: That day comes, my brother is going to his property,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: just a regular checkup, and a car starts following him.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: He didn't notice it at first, and then he makes
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: a turn. He's like, wait, let me just make sure
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: he makes a random turn. Dayturn. He makes a left turn,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: dayturn left, He makes another right on dayturn right, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: then he looks and he's like, oh, they're probably trying
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to like steal from him. And this is Chicago, Chicago,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: even they might want to steal bread from you and
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: shoot you, you know. So now he's like he just
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: comes to a place where he's like okay, Like God
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: give me wisdom and how to navigate this. And he
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: mentioned like he didn't even know. Something just took over.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: It's almost like telling him how to drive right. And
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: then he loses them. So he calls me right after.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, the craziest thing happened today. And
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I told him, I said, bro, what's today? And I'm like,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: go go back to the message I sent you, like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: what's today? And he looks. It was that day that
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: God literally showed me in the dream circled and read.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: So how I partner with God was to say, God,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: your purpose is that nothing happens to my brother, But
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: someone on earth needs to come in agreement with that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: because there is something Because even when you look at
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: terrorist shootings and all these things, it goes beyond a person,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: you know, a mental health issue, you have someone who
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: is influenced by a spirit to do that. And so
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that day why God gave a warning ahead of time,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: it's because there is something that is beyond people just
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: trying to steal from him. There is a spirit that
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: has influenced those people because of an agenda that was
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: not of God. And so that is why prayer is important.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: You see a dream and you see yourself dying, or
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: you see a family member dying, doing nothing is coming
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: in agreement with that narrative and in pray against pray
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: against it and with Jesus. It's so simple. It's not
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: even like you got to do all this hoopla. It's
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: literally coming in agreement to say, you know what, Lord,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I'm speaking life into this person's life. No harm will
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: come before them. And so that shows us the supernatural
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: powers of God that even when we feel like we
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: got it all together. He's like, no, if I partner
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: with you, we could, you could, you would really get
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: this life right. The reason why when another coming dream
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: is when people see themselves in school or in a
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: classroom and they're trying to take a test and they
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: keep failing the test because God is trying to tell them, hey,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: there's a different season of life you're supposed to be
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: stepping into, and you're you're not. You're you're missing it right.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: You're still in an old season and you're still stuck there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: And so he's trying to show people like, there's more
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I have for you. But because you're not seeing it right,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: you're so comfortable where you are that you're missing the
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: test to get you to the next place.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Talk about if you if you feel comfortable about the
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: time you went to the doctor and God told you
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: something different than what your doctor told you.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Oh that that happened to me. You know. So when
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I was pregnant, I have I have a daughter. When
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I was pregnant with my daughter, I started experiencing like
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of pain, and you know, we go rush
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the go to the go to the we are O
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: B G Y N rather and he's like trying to
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: you know, even confirm the pregnancy. And he's like, man,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I don't see a pregnancy here. I just see some
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: things that does not look good, Like you need to
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: go to the er. So we rush to the er.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: They tell me that I have like these fibroids that
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: have gone, you know, gotten really big because of the
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: pregnancy and the blood flow going like to the womb.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: So they you know, we share the results of the
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: doctor and he literally calls me. He was like, because
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: of the size of these fiboards, because of the location
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: of these fibroids, you need to terminate the pregnancy. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: you need to terminate this, because he was from his analysis,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the baby won't have room to grow and the firewords
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: could cause and even if you know, we take the
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: baby to term, the bleeding is going to be too excessive.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: And he was like, and he called back to back,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: he was like, I'm telling you you need to terminate
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: this and try again. Let terminate it. Let's take the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: firebirds out and try again. Now, before that, how I
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: even knew I was pregnant. Now, from nine I started
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: seeing angels and all those things. So right before I
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: found out I was pregnant. I was in my closet.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I was getting ready for something, and this angel appears
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: in my closet and doesn't speak. They don't speak like
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: how we're talking. It's almost like spirit to spirit. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I just had this knowing that I'm pregnant, and I
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: was like, and I run downstairs to my husband. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: was like, Babe, I think we're pregnant. So when the
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: doctor is telling me this, and then I used to
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: see my daughter in dreams a lot, and I'm like, God,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: you will not go through all of this just so
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: that I have to terminate this pregnancy. But I also
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: believe that there are some things we experience in life
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: that reminds us that we are not doing life by
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: our own intelligence, because that's to be self dependent. But
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I'm doing life with God. So there are things I'm
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: going to experience in life that only God can see
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: me through it, and he designed it to be that way.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And so I remember like I'm stealing a lot of pain,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: and I just like I'm praying and calling out to God.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: And that night I have a dream and the Lord
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: comes to me and says, do are two key things?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: He says, no harm is going to come to your child.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: And he hands me a Bible, and when I woke up,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I knew that the Bible was represented stand on my word.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: So then I started opening scriptures. I spoke about healing
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, God, no harm will come to her,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: and this is what your word says about healing. And
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: so I got another obgyn because I'm like, God has
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: shown me like no harm is going to come to
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: this child. And the other obgyn she was like, you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be optimistic, but I'm going to tell
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: you there is a scare and a concern. So we
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: need to get a specialist doctor, you know, involved, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: we need to work watch this carefully. All of a sudden,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: everything that was a concern started being reversed. So initially
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: they're like, we don't have that. You're gonna have room
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: for this baby the girl. The doctor is like, oh,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: you got room for two. You know. There were things
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: about what the location of the fibers. The fibers said
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: that moving on their own. They stead of calling my
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: daughter a soccer player, they're like she's just kicking them
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: up and down. Everything that they said, God turned it around,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you know. But the keithing is getting that word from God.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: And I believe that's why in the business of our lives,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: God still finds that place when we're sleeping to speak
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: to us and show us, like, I know, everything in
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: your world is telling you this is not going to work.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: But I'm showing you that I'm with you.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: You talk about it in the book about how the Bible,
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: the Bible, and science talk about the benefits of getting.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: I never heard that from the Bible.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because biblically, you know, we are body, soul, and spirit.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: And I think so many times, even in like Christianity,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: we only focus on like, you know, the things we
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: got to do, like the spirit realm, the soul realm.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: But there is like your body and in other force,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: you have to be a good steward over your body,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you know, you have to. There are things that even
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: as believers, is just as important and eat eating well
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: just as important as working out, because the body is
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: the vehicle. It's the thing that carries your spirit. There's
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: a thing that embodies your soul. So if your body
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: is not healthy, that's not good stewardship, you know. So
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: when you're able to get proper rest and it's there's
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: such a connection between you know, science and even you know,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: our spirituality because from a scientific standpoint, when you don't
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: have enough rest, you have brain fog. That that affects
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: your ability to even remember your dreams because when you
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: wake up and you come out of this place where
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you had an encounter or X, Y and Z, your
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: body needs to be healthy enough to process what was
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: just deposited. And so if you're not getting enough rest,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: it's very similar to you know, a computer, like if
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you only allow your computer to die every single time,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it causes memory loss over time. Same thing. If you
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: only go to bed when you feel like shut down,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: like your ex completely exhausted and you just crash, it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: harder for you to remember your dreams because that also
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: affects memory loss, you know, when you're waking up from
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: those moments. And so being a good steward is looking
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: at every part. Even the Bible talks about, you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: when the Lord this talks about you prospering you know
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: in all things right, not just in your spirit, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: in your soul, in your body. So there's a scripture
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: that talks about bring your whole body, your whole soul,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and your whole spirit blameless before God, so he's after
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: everything that be a good steward because it all connects.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: There's a part of your book where you talk about
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: part two, like I guess it's part three of part
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: I mean part four of part two. The source of
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: your dreams are there bad sources of dreams where it's
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: like this dream comes from this, you should not try
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: to interpret it and leave.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It there, no absolutely, And the key thing sometimes you
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: may not even know exactly where the dream came from,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: because there's some things that people call nightmares and they're
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: really warning dreams. So when you that's why, like I go,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I have this whole process of like you know, step
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: by step when it comes to interpreting, and there's a
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: part where by that time you might be able to
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: discern like did this come from God? Did this come
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: from the enemy. But in the beginning, I always tell
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: people write every dream down because on surface level you
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: may never see it right until you get into the
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: weeds of it. But a dream can literally come from Satan,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and how that happens is based on what you agree with.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: You know, the Bible talks about how can two people
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: walk together except they be agreed and we don't find out,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: we don't recognize the times where we are opening ourselves
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: up to agreement with things that come from a demonic realm.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: And what that looks like is some horror movies. Even
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: in the industry, they will tell you there are directors
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: that will literally tell you that when they were writing
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: the script, there were real spells, real you know, real
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: spells and witchcraft used in the script. And so when
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: you're watching the movie before going to bed or in
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the afternoon, you're opening yourself up to something that is
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: beyond entertainment. And then when you go to bed now
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: you start having some weird dreams and you're like, wait,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: where did this come from? Like what is going on here?
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Because there was an access given to that, you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: it's the same reason why someone would just start having
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like there are these weird scenarios like even when you
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: think of you know, families, for example, like when people
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: want to question, you know, things with the demonocrame when
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: you see some weird patterns in families. You know, every
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: man at this age something happened to them the moment
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: they hit thirty. This happened to him the moment they
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: hit forty. This happened to them all the way back
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to their great great grandfather. But that shows you demonic
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: influence and how it happens for us is that there
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: are all kinds of things, whether it's in media, it's
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: in you know, the things that we're consuming, reading, watching,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: listening to and we don't see that we're opening ourselves
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: up and then the enemy starts showing us things and
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: dreams that we're like, wait, how, like where's this coming from?
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: You know, what about djavel oh?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Deja vu? I think has been so misinterpreted. You know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: when people think deja vu, they make it seem like spooky,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and it's really not. You know, you're dealing with a
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: god who knew your end from your beginning. And there
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: are times most people have DejaVu doing the most random things.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: It's like you're shopping and then you're like, I've been here,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Like what is happening? And what God is communicating to
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: that person oftentimes is your life may feel mundane, your
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: life may feel boring, you may feel like there's nothing
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: going on for me. But this place in your life.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I wrote it even before you were born. I knew
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: this moment in your life and it's an encouragement to
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: people to know that even though it just feels like
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: nothing is really happening, or I don't feel like I'm
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: where I'm supposed to be, God is showing you. But
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: this moment of your life is known by me. You're
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: on track, You're in the right place at the right time.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: A long time ago.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Now, the power of dreams is fascinating because I do
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: believe that it's just it's God speaking to us. I
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: think it's glimpses into other dimensions. Like I've never had
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: somebody that I was close to past and they.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Haven't visited me in a dream at least at least once.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: And some of them are more clear than others.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Right Like my grandmother came to me and told me
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: she saw my niece when my niece was born. Right
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: are my homegirl Michelle came to me and told me
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: thank you for something right I've had. But my homegirl
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Jazz came to me in a dream. I went chasing
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: after her. She didn't want to be bothered. That's the
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: only one out of all.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Of them that confused me.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: You literally didn't want to be bothered. He was like,
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: let me alone.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: No.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: But that's a great thing because again, when dreams with
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: people that have passed on, the things that you should
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: be worried about if you see in the dream is
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: if they're leading you somewhere, if you're chasing them and
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: they're kind of telling you come on, if they're driving
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: a car, you're in the car. Those are scared. You
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: should pray about that. So you chasing her and she's like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: leave me alone. It's so that because where she's going
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: you should not be there because you still have an
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: assignment on this earth. So you're chasing her. It's almost
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  Speaker 3: like you're trying to like, hey, let me go with you,
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  Speaker 3: and she's like no, no, no, no no. So it's
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  Speaker 3: not even about her not wanting to be bothered. It's
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  Speaker 3: the spirit behind that, like, yo, you should not be
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  Speaker 3: wearing I'm at right now. So I think it would
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  Speaker 3: be interesting if you think back on where you were
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  Speaker 3: in that time of life headspace, because that could even
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  Speaker 3: speak to you about why you saw that in your dream.
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  Speaker 6: What about car accidents?
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Car accident is something to really like pray for, just
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: for direction in your life.
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  Speaker 6: If you're a passenger, you know I'm driving, but.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: You were a passenger then, like it depends on you
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: were in a bus. Okay, explain the dream. Let's do
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: a dissection.
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  Speaker 6: I was I was just in a bus, and I
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: don't remember.
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  Speaker 5: For some reason, I feel like I remember the person
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  Speaker 5: being intoxicated that was driving a bus. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: why that was a thing. Yeah, and I was on
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  Speaker 5: a bus and then the bus went it started driving,
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  Speaker 5: then it started to like fish tail and then it
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  Speaker 5: flipped over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So when you're looking like a bus, when it's
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: a card, it's very lot Oftentimes it's more personal. Right
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: when you're looking at a bus and you're looking at
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  Speaker 3: a corporate setting, and then the person who is in
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  Speaker 3: leading driving the bus is not even in their right mind,
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  Speaker 3: so they're intoxicated. So that could speak to several things. One,
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  Speaker 3: it could speak to something that you are a part
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  Speaker 3: of that It's like, it could be a corporation, it
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: could be something that you're connected to, something that has
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: a corporate sett into it. But the person who is
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: in charge, whether it's the CEO, whether it's you know, whoever,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: is making the decisions, calling the shots. Because everything, anything, that,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: everything in life has movement, right, So even the things
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  Speaker 3: you're part of In the natural, it could just seem
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  Speaker 3: like you're part of a company or you're doing X,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Y and Z, But all of this is speaking to
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  Speaker 3: movement in your life. And so on one hand, that
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  Speaker 3: could be the Lord's showing you like, hey, this, then
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  Speaker 3: you're a part of the person who is the head
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  Speaker 3: is not the person that should be leading this. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: if you are connected to this, when they crash, you
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: all are going to be affected. Right, So that's one side.
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  Speaker 3: Another side of it could also be and it's just
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  Speaker 3: to see where you are in life, what is really
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  Speaker 3: speaking to you more right, So then you examine your
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  Speaker 3: life like, hey, what am I part of? What company?
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  Speaker 3: Am I a part of? What business am I involved in?
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  Speaker 3: And who is who is the head? Because whenever this crashes,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be involved. Or if you're in a
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: space in your life, because then it's entertainment and there
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: was something maybe you were going out in a few
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: weeks and if there was a party bus and that
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: could just be a sign where the Lord is like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: don't be a part of that. So when you also
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: look at what's taking place in your wake in life,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: it helps you also discern like what God could be
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: speaking to.
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  Speaker 7: This feel like the conversation with you about dreams in
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: the book feels like how people go and get like, hey,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: you read my palm, and but it's I know it's different.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: And growing up in a church, my grandma, she don't
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: play that we're not allowed to do that type of stuff.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: But then pastors will prophesize to you, what is why
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: can we do one thing or not the other?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question. So when you look at the
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: spiritual realm, just like in life, right, there's good, there's evil.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: The spiritual realm, there's good, there's evil. So you know
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  Speaker 3: when you are doing things from and evil is really
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  Speaker 3: just a counterfeit of that good. So from a Christian perspective,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: you know, Jesus, God speaks to us, right, and even
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: like prophecy. Prophecy again is that it's not even like
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: this weird thing is literally just accessing the mind of
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: God concerning the person. So it's just like if you're praying,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Let's say you're praying for envy, right, and you're like, God,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: what are your thoughts about envy? And then all of
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: a sudden and we all have access to this. When
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: you have the Holy Spirit, because there's so many things
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: God wants to show you about people, and so it's
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: just like, God, what are your thoughts about envy? And
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: then the Holy Spirit might start showing you things about
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: him envy that is, get it together, that.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Is what I pray.
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  Speaker 3: This is that.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Figure out like when somebody's being evil or they joking,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: like because she pray for her eyelashes, right, and it's
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: to the point where it's like, just joke too much.
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  Speaker 1: There's no baby with me, continue on, none of that.
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  Speaker 5: But then.
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  Speaker 3: But the beauty is it's coming from God, right, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: what comes from Him is for your good. This is
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  Speaker 3: and first of all, it is the source that you
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  Speaker 3: can trust because it's the source that created you. It's
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: a source that knows your life. It is a source
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: that is for you. When you go to someone reading
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: your palms, a terror card reader, a psychic, the source
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: is demonic. Now I grew up, i grew up in
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Nigeria and we've seen it though I've seen it even
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: in from from even some family members right who are
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: not on the other side. But the source of that
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: is very demonic and the goal. So for example, but
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  Speaker 3: someone goes to a psychic, the psychic can tell you
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  Speaker 3: everything about your life that has been is known. What
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: your grandmother were when she know she got married. It's
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a known information in the spiritual realm. So yes, God
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  Speaker 3: can reveal that to someone, but the enemy can also
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: reveal that to someone as well. The enemy can tell
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  Speaker 3: someone where you live, your address, how many kids you have,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: what you were doing yesterday, because it's past information, it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: past knowledge. It's known now when you don't know. That's
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: why the Bible believer in says you shall know them
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: by their fruits, not by what they tell you, not
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: by the fact that they have knowledge about you. Because
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: many people can have knowledge about you, but the source
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: of it can either be demonic or it can be God.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: But the motive is where it changes. So when you're
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: receiving a message that's coming from God, the motive is
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: for your growth. Right, Jesus will say that I have
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: come to give you life and life more abundantly. But
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: then when it comes to say and he has come
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: to steal and destroy. So the psychic comes, you go.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Someone goes to a psychic, the psychic tells them what
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: their grandfather wore when they died. They start crying. Now,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: they're open. They're like, oh my gosh, how did you know?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And the psychic just keeps going, keeps going, buys their trust,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: and the motive is to curse you. It may not
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: happen that day, but it happens over time. Then from there,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the psychic would say, oh, you're gonna have three marriages.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: But what did they just do? They cursed your first marriage,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: So they just spoke to you that you'll get married
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the first time, but it's not gonna work out. You
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: get married the second time, it's not gonna work out,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: and then you're gonna get married the third time. So
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: they just and you're in agreement with it, you're eating
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: it up. So you literally opened yourself up for them
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: to curse you. So it takes they want to get
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: you in and then but the spirit behind it, Satan
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: cannot can only take you where he's going. He cannot
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: give you anything else, so he can tell you all
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: these nice things you want to hear. But after they
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: buy your trust, then they start telling you things that
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: now you're scared. You're like, oh my gosh, you're like, no,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: but X, Y and Z. But what they're doing, the
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: motive of that is to get you off track. It's
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: so that you don't know where you're like, you're not
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: walking in the path that God has for you. And
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: that's the difference question.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when people do pray, it's some of the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: prayers frivolous. Like for instance, like if somebody prays for
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: their team, right not pray to be healthy or to
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: be safe during the game, or pray the team wins.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Or Lauren prays for a man or Charlamagne praise to
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: be a little taller and pray for that.
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  Speaker 4: Like how do.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Those type of prayers work when it comes to it's
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: one of those things where write it off or is
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: it one of those things to honestly to pray for
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: things that like I pray that the Giants win next week.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Is that's a real prayer or is it?
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: No? I think wherever God is so kind, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: just like when you have a kid. When a child
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: is a baby, you know, they want to get into
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: all kinds of things. You don't get mad about that.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: There's some things they want to get into if it
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't really hurt them. You even help them, like let
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  Speaker 3: me lift you up so you can paint the walls.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: You know, as you get older, you naturally grow to
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: a place where you're like, I don't want to paint
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: the couch, Let me paint on the paper, right, the
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: same thing, and I'll walk with God. When you come
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: to know the Lord in the beginning, those beginning stages
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: of growing and getting to know him, they are random
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: things you can ask for and sometimes he would just
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: randomly do them, you know, And there's some things you
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: know liked these people at all, But it's like God
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: is just so kind in that way. Now, it doesn't
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: mean that just because you're like, man, I pray the
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: giants win and guys, I all get the giants gonna win.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: But as you grow in God, you start to understand that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: You know, the power of prayer is when you pray
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: in alignment with His will. But you have to first
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: know his will, so that takes maturity, right. But when
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: you're still in that, like you know, stage of being
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: like a baby, they're random things you can ask and
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: sometimes he will do some random things just to show
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: you he hears you and he loves you.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: How can he follow you, Stephanie, Well, look at the
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: first day I pick up the book.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, here, I used to watch you preacher. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: love that. No, I'm on Instagram Stephanie E k I
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  Speaker 3: k E And then have a YouTube channel Stephanie A
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: k okafor yeah TikTok Stephanie K.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah you preach to Yeah Okay, okay okay.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: One church, one name of the book and where people
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: can get it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: The Power of Your Dreams, and it's available everywhere books.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: So then it has a Spanish edition coming out in November.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: A guide to hearing and understanding how God speaks while
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: you sleep.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, before we get about here, let's let's
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: close on the prayer.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And even before we close, I just
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: want to share a few things because every time I
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: come to a place, I'm always asking the Lord just
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: to show me, like what he's showing about not just
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: the people that will listen to this, but the people
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: that are on here and very quickly, Charlottagne, even when
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: you share that story about what you saw as a teenager,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: there is a protection that has always been around your life.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: And this is a general everybody has got protecting them.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that what God showed me
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: concerning you is when you think about some of the
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: things that you got yourself involved in. You should not,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: by any right be where you are today, and there
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: is a covering. There are things that God has saved
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you from. There are things that God has protected you
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: from when you think of your physical life and also
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: your image, and it's because there is something very unique.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: There's a very unique assignment to your life that has
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: to be fulfilled. And I believe that it's not things
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: that the way he showed me, it's almost as dope.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're a very smart man. You might see it
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: and you'll question yourself out of it. And it would
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: be your kids that will tell you what it is,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: and to not discount their voices when they tell you, like, hey, Dad,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I think you're supposed to do. But it's literally the
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: voice of God to you because there's something that God
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: has been preserving you for that you must do on
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: this earth. And what he showed me is that the
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  Speaker 3: confirmation of what that is. You wouldn't you know it,
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  Speaker 3: but you reject it. But your kids will be the
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: one that will tell you that very thing. And when
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  Speaker 3: they do, and maybe they have walk in that path
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: because there is you're going to see so much favor
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: beyond what you've ever known and amen. And even when
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I was praying, first of all, I love you know
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: how you've been on the show, and there's just such
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: like this journalist and maybe you I don't know if
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: you are okay beautiful because I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: like how she thinks, how.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: She's which I used to help me because would be rough,
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: you would be on You're always so happy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh thank you. But even when I saw concerning you
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: was how like God is going to bring you in
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: their rooms, whether it's like the breakfast club and different things,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: but there are rooms that God is going to bring
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: you in. And there is such a light about you.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: You're more grounding to the Word than people know you
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: to be. But the reason that God is opening doors
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: for you is because of the world that He's put
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: in you. And so it goes beyond what's on your resume,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: It goes beyond what you have experience, and it goes
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: beyond the people that you know. But that to not
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: shy away from speaking his word, to not shy away.
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  Speaker 3: There are moments I just kept seeing how the Holy
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Spirit would even give you words about people like you
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: be around them and there's something you're sensing but it's
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: like should I say it? Should I not say it?
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: And He's like no, But that's why I brought you
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  Speaker 3: in the room, so that you can say what I
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  Speaker 3: put in your heart. It's beyond me just adding something
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: else to your resume. It's because I need your There's
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: an influence that sometimes we would have because of the word.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: God wants to get out there. And I remember even
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: as I was out, God showed me this. Not you,
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  Speaker 3: if anyone who knows the story, I'm not talking about
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: you in the way of Pharaoh, but it was literally
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: like Pharaoh in the times of Egypt where there was
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: gonna be a famine, and the person God brought the
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: word to was not Joseph, the person who was like
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: walking with the Lord, but it was Pharaoh because he
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: had influence over nations. He had influence to execute the
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: plan of God. And then Joseph was able to interpret
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: the dream that helped him to do that. But when
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: he showed me this, it was in the sense where
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: God will bring you to places because you have influence
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: in the room, you have influence with people, but it's
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: because of what he wants you to execute with your voice,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: so to not shy away from that, and then finally
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: DJ envy with you. It was so beautiful because the
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: first thing I saw was God's love and it was
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: almost this thing where you not It's like you had
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: this wall right and it's like you used to protect yourself.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: You're used to kind of like keeping people out so
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: you can control the narrative. But as you're doing that,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: you're also keeping yourself out of the reckless love of
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: God and how he wants to show up for you.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: And what I kept seeing was, yes, you have questions,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yes there are things, because I saw it almost like
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: where you know, even when it comes to faith, Like
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: one of the things is like, you know, but if
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: this person who didn't know you dies, like what happens
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: to them? You know? Where you have all these questions
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: that are intelligent and smart questions, but to really step
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: into the why behind it requires surrender. And what I
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: just kept showing, what God kept showing me, was you
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: come into a deeper place of surrender in your life
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: and it is going to open. It literally felt like
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: a damn bursting out what he wants to do, because
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: there are many things he wants to bring you into
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: that you don't even know about yourself yet, but that
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: if you have this wall, then it's not just keeping
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: people out, it's keeping his voice out, kipping his word out.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: But I just saw like this love of God that
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: is chasing after you. And it was almost like someone
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: just like, hey, let me in. I'm right here, and
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: regardless of the things you've experienced in life, their answers
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: that it's almost like their questions, he's not afraid to answer,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: but you have to. There's a surrender that needs to
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: take place first. But yes, yes, yes, Heavenly Father, we
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: thank you for just everything you've done in this moment.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Lord God, we thank you even in talking about this book,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: because it's really not about just getting a book out,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: but it's really about getting people to be awakened to
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: knowing that you speak and you desire to speak to them,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: whether they're awake or whether they're asleep. But even the
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: power of their dreams. Many people are ignoring their dreams
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: in this time, and there are world You're trying to
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: alert them about their warnings. You want to make them
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: aware of their ways. You want to prepare them, there
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: are ways you want to encourage them. And to Lord
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: that just pray that you will continue to be glorified
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  Speaker 3: in and through everything that we do. We love you, Lord,
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  Speaker 3: We thank you in Jesus' name. Amen.
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  Speaker 4: Amen, well, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you e k ok for Yeah, come on, it's.
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  Speaker 6: The breakfast on.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you, wake that answer up in the morning.
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  Speaker 6: Breakfast Club