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Who are the GREATEST defensive backs in NFL history? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  Any questions this? Is the Jabba and the Mouth show?
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  I love that DMX couple of year run that he had.
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  It is awesome coming back in. It's it's great.
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  It, it was absolutely great. I did get to coach a kid who I
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  believe you know, the Rough Riders record label.
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  I believe the guy I ran at his son, I, I coached his son.
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  There's a bunch of interesting DMX related Rough Riders stuff
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  up in Rockland County, New York. God rest his soul, God.
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  Rest RIP. You know a lot of fun songs no
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  one will get you up like DMX back in the day.
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  Party up, you know, comes to mind right off the bat, you
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  know, but I did want to get into it.
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  You know, Nick Goody, I was just texting with him on the break.
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  He's still driving back in his truck from college game, so he's
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  not going to be able to join us for goodies.
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  Bag of balls. That's fine.
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  But you know, I did want to talk about, I had a couple of stories
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  written down. I want to get you guys have a
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  little bit more about me since I am hosting, filling in for
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  Errol. Errol will be back next week.
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  We we talked to Errol. We're not we're definitely on
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  Monday. We'll figure out if we're doing
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  Wednesday or Thursday. The NBA draft is on Wednesday,
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  so we'll figure out it's Wednesday and to and Thursday.
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  But the first round, I think speedy, I'm not sure.
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  Is it just a lottery on Wednesday or is it the whole
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  first round? I'll find out find out for me.
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  If you guys are watching, you guys already know.
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  So please keep doing what we're doing, Tell some people about
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  the show. But I did want to bring up, you
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  know, arrows on a cruise ship and I wanted to tell you a
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  couple of stories I have from being on cruise.
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  You know, I actually ended up on a cruise because I was hungover,
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  called into an infomercial to buy a colander that turned into
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  a vegetable strainer, a steamer. What?
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  Yeah, this is a true story. So I woke up one day, I must
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  have been in my early 20s or mid 20s, and I I saw one of those
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  infomercials. You know how it is like
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  sometimes you wake up and like the TV still on from last night
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  and you see like some ridiculous infomercial and then you will go
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  like, oh man, I need that. And you never call.
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  You never call because, you know, it's stupid.
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  But I decided to call that time. And then as I'm on the phone,
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  they're like, oh, guess what? We're going to give you these
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  great free kitchen knives too. And I go, Oh my God, this keeps
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  getting better. And then before I know it, I won
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  a free cruise. Can you believe it, Jabba?
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  I had won a free cruise just from calling in.
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  Yes, the cruise itself was free at the bare minimum price.
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  I had to fly down to Fort Lauderdale and I had to then,
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  you know, none of the drinks were included.
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  So let's just say it wasn't a free trip, but it was a cheaper
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  trip. And I did go to go on a cruise
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  and it wasn't so bad. I would say it was pretty
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  bootleg. I don't know how I survived some
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  of that. So the hot tub we get there was
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  broken. We're spending all the money on
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  drinks. I think at some point we ended
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  up like looking for like something to smoke and we ended
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  up dealing with some really shady people that, you know,
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  we're walking out of by the hour motels somewhere in Fort
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  Lauderdale. It was pretty seedy, speedy, not
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  something you would have liked. It was on par with the hijinks
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  that you saw on Bourbon Street when we were down there for the
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  Super Bowl with them trying to pull you in and trying to get
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  your money before you even know what happened.
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  Pretty wild on that trip. Another one, I had ruined a
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  relationship that I was in years ago.
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  We found out that we didn't like each other because we were on a
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  cruise together. It worked out pretty quickly.
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  I wanted to have fun, she didn't.
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  And I wanted to eat the food, the delicious food and drink the
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  delicious wine that we paid for it.
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  And I had a great time, but. That's fair.
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  That relationship didn't last very long.
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  I would recommend though, if you ever go on a cruise, do like the
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  Chef's Table that they have on the cruise because then you get
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  like a private dinner and they have wine pairings with like
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  specially made meals to you. It's a little bit more money,
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  but it's I tell you, it's a really cool experience.
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  Didn't work out that relationship I had, but I'll
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  still never forget. It was pretty good, pretty good
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  meal all and all. So I got that and the only other
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  story I really wanted to talk about four years ago on this
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  day. I'll see if I can't get her over
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  here. I think she's asleep.
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  But I rescued my wife and I rescued our dog Sandy from a
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  shelter in Tampa, FL, and it was the best decision we ever made.
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  Look, I know you can go get especially, you know, a special
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  breed of dog and spend thousands of dollars and all that stuff.
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  All these dogs need, need love and the amount of love that
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  we've gotten from this dog that we rescued.
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  You know, I, I can't say enough. She's such a sweetheart.
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  She's asleep right now. She's not going to get up for
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  me. She'll she'll get she might come
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  on by the end of the show. You never know.
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  She got needy. I have to take her out after
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  every episode, you know, at like midnight for her to like walk
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  around for a second, maybe pee, maybe not.
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  And then, you know, come back home because I'm I'm done.
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  It's time for me to walk her. That's that's how it is.
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  But I'll tell you if you've ever thought about getting a dog,
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  really look into a, an animal rescue shelter near you.
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  Start there, guys. Absolutely start there.
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  It's the right thing to do. These animals it's, it's cool to
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  like, I will, I will say Alana Rizzo is really good at that and
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  Alana is a great friend of ours and yeah, it's crazy.
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  Like I've, I've never been an animal person because I just
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  haven't been like I raised Bulldogs when I was younger.
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  Jordan Cinnamon, I'll never forget him.
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  And I got Bailey now. I got Bailey now.
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  And it's just like, it's just, it's, you're 100% right.
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  It's like there's so many of these dogs that don't.
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  And I worked the SPCA and that and it's just, it is so
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  important because it means so much to so many people, not only
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  just us as adults, but like our kids and stuff like that.
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  And I think that just means means the world to everybody.
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  Speedy, you're a dog person. We know that you know, like, do
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  you have any experience with like rescuing animals or you
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  know, well, we. We know he's a dog.
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  Person I wasn't, I wasn't the one involved in the process.
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  My family's had a series of dogs over the years when I when I was
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  kids my my cousins had. One that hey, can I be the Ariel
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  in this? Like what about the shower
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  session? What?
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  The full he's saying, you know, like a little.
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  Bit too much. I'm not the one bathing them
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  either, Jabba, but nevertheless, yeah, my family's always had
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  various dogs. My cousins had one that passed
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  when I was very young. My my grandparents, both my
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  mother's side of the families had three different three
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  different dogs over the course of my life, including the one
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  that I'm I'm with now. I'm living with my grandmother
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  right now, three different dogs there and my family, my
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  immediate family, we got ours in 2014 because the owner, the
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  owner couldn't, she was traveling a lot, so she couldn't
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  give him really the best care that you would want for
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  somebody. Was about a year old at the
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  time. And it was interesting because
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  when I was, this was after my freshman year of college, we
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  actually met him and several other dogs in this dog park in
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  it was around Central Park, around that area.
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  We met them, played with him for a little bit and a couple weeks
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  later we got him. This was 2014.
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  We had him and he's still, he's still in my family's house in
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  Connecticut ever since 11 years. Later.
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  That's wonderful. Yeah, so that's a we we didn't
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  have one for a while because again, it was it was tough with
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  the kids being very young at the time, all, all my brothers being
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  very young at the time. So my youngest brother, Aiden,
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  when we got our dog, his name is Jake, would have been 11 at the
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  time that we got him. I was in college.
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  And yeah, we've had him ever since.
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  That's really cool, man. And I just want to reiterate it,
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  you know, like I didn't have, I didn't have dogs growing up.
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  I didn't have any animals growing up.
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  I think my mom's best attempt at having a pet was like a fish you
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  want at a County Fair that lived like for 36 hours, you know, so
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  we didn't really have pets. But I got to give credit to my
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  wife Crystal, you know, she really, you know, she had a dog
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  when we first met, really kind of like melted my heart and that
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  now I'm a dog person. Like I really wasn't.
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  And it's official. There's no coming back from it
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  whatsoever. And I think we lost Jabba for a
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  second, but we only have one segment left tonight, You know,
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  without Errol, you know, it's, it's a little bit different.
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  We're not going to do everyone's favorite segment analytics
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  because we can't do it with Errol you.
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  Know we also can't do it without Nathan.
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  It wouldn't be the same. And Nathan, Nathan, we kind of
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  need them for moral support, too.
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  We are going to get right into some football and we call this
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  the whip around though whip. Whip, whip around.
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  I was quicker than I remember it.
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  I think the whip around job needs to be a little longer but
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  this is the off season whip around.
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  Yes, Jabba still giving Speedy the referee a wedding in this.
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  Graphic. All right, let's start this off
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  the right way. Today's edition of the NFL
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  Offseason WHIP round. That's Jair Alexander and Lamar
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  Jackson. They were teammates at
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  Louisville way back when. They are teammates once again on
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  the Ravens. Wow.
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  So why you want? That's why you wanted to go
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  there. Jair Alexander here, they are
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  growing out. When they came back together,
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  they were the two leaders of the team in Louisville.
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  Jair Alexander didn't end well in Green Bay, Obviously had a
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  two years ago, or I guess three years ago, Speedy signed the
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  largest contract for a cornerback, played half the game
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  since he signed it because of injury.
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  If there's any place to get this guy going back to being an All
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  Pro, it is with his best bud and also MVP, perennial MVP
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  candidate Lamar Jackson. Speedy.
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  What is a healthy Jair Alexander mean to this Ravens team?
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  Yeah, it's definitely a good move where it comes to the
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  counter of what Marlon Humphrey is.
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  Marlon Humphrey is a physical corner.
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  He they, he won an All pro in the slot last year, but also
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  very physical outside corner. Gyre is usually more reliant on
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  his speed. He is long, but he does rely
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  more on a speed through his career, keeping up with guys in
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  man coverage. And I think the last couple of
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  years he's had to fight a lot of injuries, especially with his
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  hamstring that I think has slowed him down.
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  But he's a good counter for that scheme.
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  He's going to probably play more of the outside corner because
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  like I said, Humphrey is strong in the slot.
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  Nate Wiggins is also very good at the rookie corner from last
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  year. Now answer his second year in
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  the slot better than he was outside.
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  So I think it just gives them a little bit more speed.
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  And you look at the top three teams in the AFC last year with
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  the Bills and with the Chiefs and then and the Ravens, like
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  that's the threshold you're looking at.
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  All their receivers are all type speed yard after the catch type
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  guys, which I think the Ravens got cooked by when they had to
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  place both those teams. He he on paper speedy to me, he
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  looks like a perfect fit for them.
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  It would be a great thing if he can stay healthy and he could
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  play cuz look, a guy that's a speed guy with bad hamstrings,
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  that's not what you want, right? That's that's obviously not what
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  you want. But if he can keep it together,
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  maybe he's not. He's at 90% speed that he used
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  to be. He still can be a very competent
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  corner. And Lamar Jackson said something
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  to the effect. Listen to the general manager.
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  Listen, I love our corners, but go get that guy.
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  Jabba, when you played a couple of places, I don't know if you
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  at one of your later stops, if you got to the point where a
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  manager or somebody in your organization said, hey, what
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  about this guy? You think we should add this guy
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  as someone that you played with? Is he ever like given a
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  recommendation? It's like, hey, you should.
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  We got to get this guy. I will, I will say like from
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  from that side of what they like, what they are and and who
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  they it's just like it's the presence of just who they are,
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  right. And I'll, I'll give you a great
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  story. So we're literally, I'm with the
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  Detroit Tigers at this time and we're about to make a crazy
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  trade to get David Price. Oh.
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  Yeah, and David Price was a good friend of mine.
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  I texted him and I was like, hey, you're about to get traded.
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  Wow. And he was on the golf course
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  and I was like, hey, you might need to head back to the
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  clubhouse because I think this is about to happen.
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  And so it's me, Verlander. And then all of a sudden I see
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  all Dombrowski comes in, Avila comes in and I'm like, oh, it's
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  about to go down. And I was old at that time.
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  So like they kind of filled us in on some certain things.
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  And so I'm like, hey, I didn't even he, he David didn't even
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  hear from his agent. Didn't hear from his agent.
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  Only reason he knew is because of me.
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  That's, that's wild. And he got traded literally 20
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  minutes later. You know, I, I, I just, I just
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  find those stories to be fascinating because you never
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  from, from our perspective, you know, it's just a, a transaction
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  on a piece of paper. The guy gets traded.
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  But this is you guys. We're going to lives.
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  We're we're going to go a little bit longer right now on this
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  segment because I'll tell you what is even crazier about that.
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  So the two people that were involved in the trade was Austin
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  Jackson, Drew Smiley, and it was the Mariners, Tigers and Rays.
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  And so if he didn't get to the clubhouse by the time the trade
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  deadline happened, the trade was null and void.
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  SO2 outs, like I think it was in like the 5th inning or
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  something, they run out and grab Austin Jackson.
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  Tyler Collins goes in and it was like you've just been traded and
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  you're like, what is going on? Middle of the game.
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  Middle of the game. That's why you see some of these
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  things, but it it's, it's crazy how like all of this works and
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  how like things go hand in hand, but I'm like, dude that's
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  getting ready to catch a fly ball or something and he has to
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  worry about this because he's I was on the chopping block all
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  the time. I was going to get traded for
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  Roy Holiday all the time, God rest his soul, and it never
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  happened because they wouldn't give me up.
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  But then, like when you actually get to like see it and
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  experience it, I'm like, hey, I'll give you a hug.
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  And then they're just in the clubhouse, like packing their
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  lockers and like, yeah, I'm out. It's weird.
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  It's it's super weird. I thought it would have to be
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  pretty strange. So we we see that coming up now
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  we have that one. We got Lamar happy, Jair happy.
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  Maybe it works out for them in this new stop, Speedy.
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  The next story we have up here is the retirement.
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  That's middle linebacker legends, Alabama legends as
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  well. CJ Mosley.
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  Look, CJ Mosley's been a very good middle linebacker in this
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  league for a very long time. People don't realize unless they
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  around football just how important the mic linebacker,
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  middle linebacker is basically calls the defense.
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  He's the defensive quarterback for the run fits.
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  He's also doing a lot of communication that sets up the
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  communication for the guys behind him as well.
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  But the front seven runs on what the how good the communication
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  is of the middle linebacker and how well obviously how well he
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  plays. But the communication is key and
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  The Jets defenses have been very good in large part because
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  they've had a really great metal linebacker communicating that
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  across. How is this going to #1 do you
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  think The Jets are going to be as good defensively?
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  And two, speedy what what does that say about that position?
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  Because that position I find to be one of the most undervalued
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  position in all football. It's changed a lot because I
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  think CJ Mosley, when he came into the league, they were
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  trying to still emphasize a lot more of those more physical
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  coverage linebackers. Those cover 2 type Tampa 2 type
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  linebackers. You saw that with guys like Luke
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  Keakley, obviously Brian Urlacher, one of the best ever,
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  Derrick Brooks are the best there.
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  I think if they were looking for those types and then once those
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  types became more injury prone, they look for more of those
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  speed types. I think when you look at Deion
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  Jones when he got dropped by the Atlanta Falcons, I think kind of
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  since then in 2016 on they've been looking for more of those
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  quicker types. And now you look at somebody
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  like Fred Warner, who's probably the best man coverage linebacker
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  we've ever seen. So you're not going to be
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  looking for as much CJ Mosley type linebackers just physically
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  As for him himself, yeah, he's had a great career.
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  I obviously his first year with The Jets, cause a lot of the he
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  had the injury and then the COVID year, he was causing a lot
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  of drama. But since then he played great
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  and really did a great job elevating those young
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  linebackers on The Jets team. The Jets right now are more
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  predicated on their and their pass rush.
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  I think they filled in their younger linebackers very nicely
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  where I think especially with a new scheme with Aaron Glenn and
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  going over there, Detroit's had a lot of rotation with the
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  linebacker position. But they've done well with
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  bringing in faster veterans and a combination of the youngsters
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  that have played well there too. I don't think it'll be a massive
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  drop off losing Mosley. But like you said, as a signal
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  caller, as a leader, like he really had to teach those other
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  guys well when he got hurt. And sometimes that kind of thing
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  is lost if you don't have that either linebacker position or
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  the safety position. If you don't have a middle
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  linebacker that can communicate and set the defense correctly,
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  you're not a good defense. And it's so important.
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  I mean, I know at my level, you know, two years ago, I had this
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  linebacker who was just, he went to Harvard.
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  He was a genius. He he could call out what the
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  play was. And we were always ready.
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  And we got to the state semifinals the year after that.
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  Not the same kid. All right, If it didn't work
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  out, you know I you know I praise the effort.
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  But we didn't win last year. And then a large, a large part
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  of it is defensively, we were never set right.
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  And that comes from the middle linebacker position.
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  Yeah. So I I do think it's
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  undervalued. Yeah, we talk about it too with
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  with Foray Lucan when he's been on the show too, like.
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  How well and the same thing think about Levante, David Oh.
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  Yeah, sure. Right.
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  He's in the way like you're you're taking over for Derrick
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  Brooks. Obviously Bear Rude was there,
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  too. Yeah, obviously I'm going to
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  drop the Nebraska diamond. I remember Bear Rude.
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  Bear Rude was a good linebacker that had injury issues and
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  again, eventually Levante David didn't end up taking.
• 20:43
  Over, yeah. Another Jets legend, Kowan
• 20:45
  Alexander, played with him earlier in his career in Tampa
• 20:48
  and. So do you think speedy too like
• 20:51
  when it comes to that too? And, and and exactly like you
• 20:54
  said, Fish was, so are they are they the leaders of kind of the
• 21:01
  defense? Because they kind of just as as
• 21:04
  a Mike linebacker and what they do, are they kind of the leaders
• 21:09
  of like, obviously you're getting your scheme, you're
• 21:12
  getting everything. You know what you're doing.
• 21:15
  Do you think if you don't have a dude like that that can do these
• 21:20
  things, does it lead a defense to be soft or hard or?
• 21:27
  Yeah. Especially.
• 21:29
  Because defense is harder were because you're obviously your
• 21:31
  scheme can be strong, but it's harder when you don't know what
• 21:34
  play is coming or like, yeah, especially in motion.
• 21:37
  This is a motion NFL now. So if you can't adjust to
• 21:41
  somebody either moving in motion or a quarterback that calls
• 21:43
  audibles quickly or the opposite where you have like a Sean McVay
• 21:46
  like offense with the Rams where they're going to huddle for a
• 21:49
  while, then because audible the last second type thing, if you
• 21:52
  don't have a linebacker like that, a veteran linebacker like
• 21:55
  that that could do that. That's why I, like I said, talk
• 21:57
  with Foye Lukin on the show. He's trying to train all these
• 22:00
  younger linebackers to know their signals and he has to do a
• 22:03
  lot from a leadership perspective as the captain of
• 22:05
  that team. It's very difficult, especially
• 22:07
  A-Team, like his team with the Jaguars has a lot of roster
• 22:10
  turnover and mostly went for the same kind of thing with The
• 22:12
  Jets, too. A lot of that defense that
• 22:14
  they've built up the last four years are younger players.
• 22:17
  So he had days to take on that kind of mentorship, and that's
• 22:19
  why they've been a very good unit for a while.
• 22:22
  Jabba, you remember watching Ray Lewis play and how he would
• 22:27
  play, especially against guys like Peyton Manning.
• 22:28
  And I remember their matchups very well because it seemed like
• 22:32
  the two of them were just shouting for 20 seconds before
• 22:36
  every play started. Because for every type of little
• 22:39
  audible Manning would do, Ray Lewis would have an answer.
• 22:43
  And it was this crazy chess match that had nothing to do
• 22:47
  with the physicality and speed of the player.
• 22:49
  It was just, you know, understanding football and then
• 22:54
  having to be physical and do those things.
• 22:56
  The fact that if, like, Ray Lewis is a Hall of Famer,
• 22:59
  because he was able to do that right at the highest level.
• 23:02
  And I think it's really important to remember that if a
• 23:06
  team doesn't have that piece, you better be like having Revis
• 23:11
  Island on one side of the field type of a talented in the
• 23:14
  secondary. And maybe, you know, you just
• 23:17
  have like a Miles Garrett or something because you're going
• 23:20
  to need it if you don't have that great guy in the middle.
• 23:23
  So I want to leave it at that and move on to the next one,
• 23:26
  which is one of our favorite topics here on Job in the mouth.
• 23:29
  Chador Sanders Chador Sanders guys driving 101 miles an hour.
• 23:36
  Not the first time he was cited for speeding this month.
• 23:40
  He apparently was stopped for going 91 in the 65 I believe two
• 23:46
  weeks, not even 2 weeks earlier. So he's facing some fines, some
• 23:50
  court fees, 41 miles an hour over the 60 mile an hour speed
• 23:55
  limit. That's not good.
• 23:56
  He might lose a license for something like that.
• 23:59
  He's taking care of the tickets. Team spokesman Peter John
• 24:02
  Batiste told the media outlet. We know the story.
• 24:09
  Not a great start for Shador. Now, you heard some good things
• 24:12
  at a camp at a OTAs, that he looks great.
• 24:16
  They're wearing shorts right now.
• 24:18
  We know Shador is going to look good in shorts.
• 24:21
  But is he focused where he needs to be focused?
• 24:24
  Jabba, when guys have stuff going on off the field, are they
• 24:30
  like, how often are they good on the field?
• 24:34
  It's, it's weird because I've obviously had that as well.
• 24:39
  So I can, I can kind of speak on that, but it I didn't have that.
• 24:48
  Right. And obviously I didn't have my
• 24:52
  dad's name behind me and what he's done.
• 24:56
  I and I don't know beyond that personally to where in like,
• 25:04
  hey, like, you know what's what is on you right?
• 25:11
  Like it's it's going to be prevalent to what people talk
• 25:17
  about why we're talking about it right now.
• 25:36
  then do it. Be you.
• 25:37
  I want you to be you no matter what, 100%.
• 25:42
  No doubt. But if you're going to, if
• 25:44
  you're going to keep doing the shit that you're doing and think
• 25:49
  you can get away with it because you know who my dad is, you
• 25:56
  haven't proven the damn thing. You haven't done anything.
• 26:01
  Yeah, you've made some money for NIL and all the other stuff.
• 26:06
  But at the end of the day, like I'll, I'll be perfectly honest
• 26:10
  with you, if he doesn't do it on the biggest stage, nobody gives
• 26:19
  a shit. Nobody cares.
• 26:24
  And if he wants to keep doing what he's doing and think that
• 26:29
  he is a what my dad would call BMOC big man on campus, then
• 26:40
  what are you? Like, what are you doing?
• 26:43
  Like go prove like I can't say anything to you if you go prove
• 26:50
  it. Like, Yep, sorry about your
• 26:53
  life. I'm the dude.
• 26:56
  I'm the dude. But you didn't do anything, bro.
• 27:01
  You never won anything. You've never won anything.
• 27:05
  You rely on your fucking father. Go do something on your own
• 27:12
  record. Go do it.
• 27:16
  And I tell my son this all the time.
• 27:20
  I go Carter Van, this ain't about me.
• 27:25
  It's about you. And if you go do it and you're
• 27:28
  that dude can't say anything, I'll take care of you.
• 27:37
  But go do you like go do something.
• 27:42
  And it just doesn't make sense to me how like he doesn't like,
• 27:50
  and you can never, ever tell anybody how to be a father.
• 27:56
  Can't do it. But when it comes down to it,
• 28:00
  it's like you got to do, you got to do something.
• 28:04
  And it's like, I tell Carter all the time, you're not going to be
• 28:10
  Jabba Chamberlain. You're not that, that that's
• 28:13
  just not going to be the way it is.
• 28:15
  You're not. And I don't want you to live up
• 28:20
  to me. I want you to be better than me.
• 28:25
  And so I don't know, Dion, on that level to where I can be
• 28:28
  like, did you not just tell your kids, like, yeah, they're very
• 28:33
  talented, but let them be their own people?
• 28:38
  Like let them do their thing. Now let's hope Shadour's thing
• 28:43
  isn't just getting speeding tickets all year and not putting
• 28:45
  his nose in the playbook, because his ass will be out of
• 28:48
  the league pretty quickly and he'll have to be playing in
• 28:50
  Canada. And well, you know, I'm sure
• 28:52
  we'll get to some great Canadian football picks in a little bit.
• 28:55
  When Wes comes on for let's parlay, let's move on to a
• 28:58
  different money maker. Carl made a good point.
• 29:01
  He's already late to film sessions, too.
• 29:04
  Well, look, I think we're we know why he fell.
• 29:07
  We know why we've talked about it.
• 29:09
  You know what's really cool? There's this great Netflix
• 29:12
  series on the Cowboys Cheerleaders and about six years
• 29:16
  ago they they were only making $200 a game to be a Dallas
• 29:20
  Cowboy Cheerleader. You can't live off of that.
• 29:22
  That's not real money. They upped it to 400 in 2019.
• 29:28
  Well, apparently this just came down.
• 29:30
  They're getting a 400% raise going from 400.
• 29:35
  I guess if we do that math to 1600 a game, sometimes 17 games.
• 29:39
  It's a good amount of money. It's a lot better than 400 a
• 29:42
  game at that price, right? That's a four time race.
• 29:44
  I've never got in the four time race.
• 29:47
  I guess that does happen in professional sports sometimes.
• 29:50
  If you go from just like a rookie contract and you hit
• 29:52
  become a Max player, you probably get better than that.
• 29:55
  But man, Jabba, we cheerleaders are living right now in Dallas
• 30:02
  town. It's pretty nice.
• 30:04
  You can you remember ever getting some kind of like a
• 30:07
  raise that was just like, maybe it was like the first time you
• 30:10
  got a baseball check what that feeling was like when you got
• 30:13
  that real money. Well, I got, I got real money
• 30:18
  before that. But let's pretend the NCAA was
• 30:22
  above board for a second. But you know what I mean?
• 30:24
  Like that First, Like legitimate, you know, here you
• 30:28
  go. It's I, I, I have an interesting
• 30:31
  take on this. And I was, I was literally
• 30:33
  typing in our chat before you got to it.
• 30:36
  And then I didn't get to it. But so one of my best friends,
• 30:41
  his wife was a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.
• 30:48
  Cool. You taking off?
• 30:50
  OK, Let me know how it goes, OK? Yeah, let me know.
• 30:59
  And so it was, it was crazy because they literally didn't
• 31:04
  make any money. It was, it was all like off
• 31:08
  field stuff, right? And I'm in his wedding doing all
• 31:16
  the other shit and doing everything.
• 31:19
  And it's like you learn about all these things that you don't
• 31:23
  really know about. And I, I was like, that's all
• 31:30
  you're getting paid at this point.
• 31:34
  Like, why do you not like go and be like, hey, we're doing more
• 31:44
  you taking off too. We got all my people here.
• 31:50
  That's cool man. Like, look, I'm sure that having
• 31:55
  a little bit like a closer connection to it, you see that
• 31:59
  it's just like poverty, like the Dallas Cowboys position,
• 32:03
  cheerleaders position, so important you should do it for
• 32:05
  pennies. It's.
• 32:07
  Just amazing not. Just.
• 32:09
  The Cowboys, they created an entire show of them.
• 32:13
  Right. They should be getting residuals
• 32:14
  for that. I mean, who knows how that even
• 32:17
  works today with Netflix and everything.
• 32:18
  I'm sure it doesn't work for them the way it used to work,
• 32:22
  but speedy, you know? Works for who owns it of.
• 32:25
  Course it does, you know. But as far as you know, the
• 32:28
  actors you hear all the time now with like actors not getting the
• 32:31
  residuals from like Netflix the same way they used to get from
• 32:33
  cable when it would be a rerun of something they made years
• 32:36
  ago. You know, actor economy is not
• 32:39
  something I'm interested in. But speedy.
• 32:41
  But I am certainly interested in, you know, the New York
• 32:44
  Football Giants. We don't need no cheerleaders.
• 32:47
  Yeah, I think they're one of like 6 or 7 teams that don't
• 32:49
  have them. It's about the football over
• 32:52
  here in the, in, I guess, New Jersey.
• 32:53
  But I, I think it's a, it's a interesting story and I think
• 32:58
  it's, it's a step in the right direction.
• 33:01
  Pay people what they're worth. They're probably worth more than
• 33:03
  that, but it's at least a step in the right direction.
• 33:06
  Let's let's finish up football. Just getting to get into the
• 33:09
  last story and this what a fun story this is.
• 33:12
  We got the Giants third and fourth string quarterbacks
• 33:16
  becoming new best friends. Oh yes, I am talking about the
• 33:20
  the Italian Stallion himself, Mr. Mr. Tommy Cutlets, Tommy
• 33:24
  DeVito and our first round pick this year, technically 3rd on
• 33:28
  the depth chart right now behind Russell Wilson and Famous
• 33:32
  Jameis. Yes, I'm talking about Jackson
• 33:34
  Dart. Listen to this, boys.
• 33:37
  DeVito is getting to know face of position.
• 33:40
  He's already bonded with the rookie dart.
• 33:42
  This comes from Yahoo Sports. All it took was the latest
• 33:45
  season of the reality TV series Love Island.
• 33:49
  Me and Jackson might go on Love Island, DeVito said.
• 33:53
  We've talked about it, so we really don't know what's about
• 33:55
  to happen. I can't say we watch it every
• 33:58
  night, but from time to time we get an off day.
• 34:01
  We watch it and talk about it. Oh man, the bromance is blooming
• 34:06
  in the swamps of the Meadowlands.
• 34:09
  My God, what are we doing make of this Speedy it?
• 34:13
  It's like step brothers, we just made new best friends.
• 34:16
  Hopefully that's what it what it'll come down to.
• 34:18
  It's good to see them bonding, I guess just based on that.
• 34:19
  Please do not go on the show whatsoever people like I guess
• 34:23
  if Devito's on practice walk, I whatever, but Jack Siddar did
• 34:26
  not turn into Shidor Sanders and start trying to live your life
• 34:28
  on reality TV. Please, for the love of God, you
• 34:31
  could Tommy, Tommy DeVito, you could send all your your chicken
• 34:33
  cutlets and all your food over there.
• 34:36
  Oh. There he is, DeVito you.
• 34:39
  You you can do that if that's the case.
• 34:40
  But I guess from a leadership standpoint, I guess it's find
• 34:42
  something to bond on. It's always a good thing, even
• 34:45
  though again, I'm not going to over analyze anything with
• 34:47
  reality TV. Java.
• 34:49
  You ever watched that 10 Java bot popped out?
• 34:52
  I know my wife, I know we've watched Love Island.
• 34:55
  I know I've been, I would say subjected to it might be the
• 34:58
  best way to put it. I don't think that would be what
• 35:02
  the Giants want for Tommy DeVito and especially for Jackson.
• 35:08
  No, nobody should be going on the show.
• 35:09
  Please no. Please don't.
• 35:11
  I mean, look, it might be that Tommy Devito's future is like a
• 35:16
  character on a reality show. To be fair, I think that's
• 35:19
  probably not a stretch. They could be like Jersey Shore
• 35:22
  football edition, you know? And now all of a sudden he's,
• 35:26
  you know, beating up the beat down on the Jersey Shore like in
• 35:28
  the days of old with the the situation and all those other
• 35:34
  clowns from that show back in the day.
• 35:36
  Guys, that is our offseason news for football at this time.
• 35:41
  We call that the whip around. We're moving forwards.
• 35:44
  We've got our favorite game show coming up right now.
• 35:47
  When we get the first chance to have our intern Zach defend his
• 35:50
  crown. Yes, it is time for King of the
• 35:54
  Hill. And here's the king of the Hill.
• 35:58
  This, Bobby, is the Beltline. You never, ever hit below that.
• 36:02
  Not that kind of King of the hill.
• 36:03
  You dumb Ready? Are you ready?
• 36:06
  This is King of the Hill. Well, here we are, King of the
• 36:11
  Hill. We're back.
• 36:11
  Let's get all the interns in. Let's get Tommy in Nathan, you
• 36:15
  can play as well. So come on in everybody.
• 36:17
  We'll get Jabba in if he's if I'm sure he's just dealing with
• 36:20
  a bunch of people over there at the location that they're at.
• 36:24
  So here we go. Tonight is an NFL edition of
• 36:28
  King of the Hill. Let's add everybody to the
• 36:30
  stage. Let's go pop it up.
• 36:33
  So round one again, Zach, you are in the King chair tonight
• 36:36
  and we're going to start off talking about the best defensive
• 36:39
  backs of all time. All right, so we're going to
• 36:44
  load up the screen for it. We'll put Zach in the King chair
• 36:47
  right here. I'll put it over here.
• 36:49
  So Zach, you were judging all of us.
• 36:51
  We'll go down the line. We'll start with at the top next
• 36:54
  to you with Jake. All right, yeah.
• 36:59
  So you have to forgive me really quick, everyone here.
• 37:01
  I'm doing my Aaron Rodgers tribute, my darkness retreat.
• 37:05
  Power's still out, but I'm doing my best here.
• 37:08
  Yeah, no, but for me, DB number one, I'm going to go with as
• 37:11
  much as I hate to say it as Eagles fan, but primetime Deon
• 37:14
  Sanders, the man was pretty much the revolution of the position.
• 37:18
  You think of quarterback, you think Deon Sanders, he was so
• 37:20
  dominant that at time he would stop playing defense and just go
• 37:24
  play off and play wide receiver because the quarterbacks will
• 37:27
  just refuse to throw the ball towards him because they didn't
• 37:29
  want to get picked off. And you can kind of see now how
• 37:31
  he mentored Shudor, excuse me, Travis Hunter, who's looking to
• 37:35
  be that type of hybrid player now.
• 37:37
  They don't even let people try it anymore.
• 37:38
  That's how dominant Dion was. So yeah, for me, he's clearly
• 37:42
  one of the best defensive backs of all time.
• 37:44
  Tommy all. Right.
• 37:45
  Well, I'm going with one of my personal favorites ever since
• 37:49
  growing up and watching football as a young kid, if not the best
• 37:52
  defensive back of all time. We are going with Mr. Ed Reed.
• 37:57
  Now. Mr. Ed Reed is just what a
• 38:00
  stellar player. I I always remember watching
• 38:02
  that one clip of of it was Ray Lewis when I'm sorry, not Ray
• 38:08
  Lewis. It was a video of I'm sorry, I
• 38:11
  can't even do that. It was a video of Ocho Cinco.
• 38:14
  He ran into he ran into Ray Lewis and then just got popped
• 38:17
  completely by Ed Reed and Ray Lewis.
• 38:19
  So it's honestly one of the funnier videos.
• 38:21
  But Ed Reed, what a great player, what a stellar.
• 38:24
  A lot of these people didn't even want to like a lot of these
• 38:26
  receivers didn't want to run near the field with him.
• 38:28
  Kind of similar to who I'm going to get into the next if nobody
• 38:31
  else picks him, but I'm going with Mr. Ed Reed.
• 38:35
  All right, I'll go next. I'm going to go with a former
• 38:38
  Heisman Trophy candidate winner and his name is Charles Woodson.
• 38:43
  Charles Woodson was a legendary corner, drafted originally by
• 38:47
  the Raiders, moves eventually to safety and is an all pro there
• 38:52
  as well. I don't know.
• 38:54
  There's a very short list of people who have done that.
• 38:57
  They've been all pro at both positions.
• 38:59
  He's a legend. He has a Heisman.
• 39:01
  He's got AI believe he has a Super Bowl.
• 39:03
  I could be wrong about that. I know he's got, I know he got
• 39:06
  run over by Brandon Jacobs the year after, if I'm not mistaken,
• 39:10
  on the way that the Giants win in the Super Bowl.
• 39:12
  But he is absolutely one of the stud corners D backs of all
• 39:16
  time. Charles Woodson.
• 39:18
  So Java, we're doing best D backs of all time.
• 39:20
  So we'll just put you at the end of the list right here.
• 39:23
  OK. So that's how we'll do it.
• 39:24
  And we'll go now to Mr. Aaron. All right, so as we all know, I
• 39:32
  don't know so much about football talking specifics, but
• 39:35
  Darrelle Revis, I mean, you talk about possibly one of the best
• 39:39
  players that would play for The Jets possibly, but one of the
• 39:42
  best New York players in his time, just so good defensively,
• 39:46
  he was always there. Again, I don't know a lot of
• 39:49
  specifics, but you hear the name, you know what I'm talking
• 39:51
  about. So I'm going to go with Darrelle
• 39:53
  Revis. All right, Speedy.
• 39:55
  All right, I'll round it out with another safety, Ronnie
• 39:57
  Lott, best of his era with the San Francisco 49ers, played with
• 40:00
  A19 fingers, one of his fingers. Obviously we know what happened
• 40:05
  with that. Still ended up being the best
• 40:07
  tackler of that era, Great coverage guy and obviously won a
• 40:09
  bunch of Super Bowls over there. I think was a eight or nine time
• 40:12
  all pro. Safety and I think he has to be
• 40:16
  in consideration for the best, well, most well-rounded safety
• 40:19
  ever. Ed Reid, like you were saying,
• 40:21
  Tommy, probably the best covered safety for you.
• 40:22
  Argue another guy possibly later as the best blitzing safety, but
• 40:26
  Ronnie Lott, probably the best all around safety.
• 40:31
  Pretty fair, Jabba for two. So you're going to go 2 and then
• 40:34
  we're going to snake back the other way.
• 40:36
  Defensive backs of all time. What do you got for us, Mr.
• 40:41
  Chamberlain? So we're going.
• 40:44
  Safety or corner? Safety or corner?
• 40:48
  Yeah, defensive back so that you can pick from more people.
• 40:56
  I'm going to go tie Law. I'm going to go tie Law and what
• 41:03
  he did, obviously Hall of Famer two time out, bro.
• 41:13
  I just think what he did was different than what other people
• 41:21
  did when he did it. I wanted to take the Ronnie Lott
• 41:29
  because there's a Nebraska connection there, but I couldn't
• 41:33
  take that because it's already gone.
• 41:35
  But yeah, so I'll, I'll take Ty Law went in the Hall of Fame in
• 41:41
  in 19. He was two time all Pro, five
• 41:46
  time all Pro Bowler. The way that he covered it and
• 41:51
  did everything was fantastic. All right, give me your second
• 41:55
  one and we're going to snake back to Speedy going reverse
• 41:57
  order. All right.
• 41:58
  I go reverse order fishy went with.
• 42:00
  Speedy. It's speedy.
• 42:01
  I think I'm not I'm it's Java. It's Java speedy.
• 42:04
  Yeah, Java for his 2nd pick. And then you get oh.
• 42:08
  Yeah, Troy Palamalu, tell these. Young UNS What it was like to to
• 42:14
  watch Troy Palamalu. I actually went to a game there
• 42:20
  and saw him work on the sidelines.
• 42:25
  It was different. It was different and I was like,
• 42:32
  they're dudes and I've been in my realm where guys were
• 42:37
  different. He was different and he has the
• 42:44
  accolades. I don't need to say shit about
• 42:47
  that because he hasn't. But like watching him and seeing
• 42:55
  what he was able to do and how he did it.
• 43:00
  And I, I wouldn't say he was undersized, but he wasn't like
• 43:06
  great as a size of what he did, but fast covered and feared.
• 43:17
  And that's the thing, I'll say he was feared because you
• 43:22
  didn't. You didn't.
• 43:23
  I'm sorry. Go ahead.
• 43:24
  You didn't want to. You didn't want to run across
• 43:26
  the middle of field with him. Is he going to give you the
• 43:30
  business? All right, so you're definitely
• 43:36
  getting the business from Troy Palamalo and you're getting a
• 43:39
  full head of flowing hair with head and shoulders keeping him
• 43:42
  dandruff free. Speedy PD.
• 43:45
  All right. You've said one of them with
• 43:47
  this last name before. I'm going to say the other one,
• 43:49
  Rod Woodson, another one that could play multiple different
• 43:52
  positions. And I think a guy that was very
• 43:55
  undervalued, obviously with the Steelers, a little bit with the
• 43:58
  Ravens and well later in his career on the Super Bowl team as
• 44:01
  well. But with the Steelers,
• 44:02
  especially in that 90s era, he obviously didn't win a Super
• 44:05
  Bowl, they went to a Super Bowl. But he still was one of the most
• 44:08
  versatile, most well-rounded defensive backs, 7 or 8 time Pro
• 44:11
  Bowler or All Pro player, even more of a Pro Bowler type
• 44:15
  player. And again, if it wasn't for
• 44:17
  Deion Sanders, probably would have been the best of that era.
• 44:19
  But like you said, it was Deion Sanders the best shutdown, but
• 44:21
  he was probably one of the best all around.
• 44:24
  That was excellent, Aaron. All right, so I'll go with a
• 44:28
  fairly younger pick. I'll go with a Richard Sherman.
• 44:31
  I mean, you talk about someone that was explosive and someone
• 44:33
  that really played the game well with their team and that legion
• 44:36
  of boom on what they did. That's your for that, You know,
• 44:39
  in that era with the Seahawks, I mean, you can't really say
• 44:41
  anymore. I even though his attitude was
• 44:44
  something of a problem, you could say, but he was explosive.
• 44:47
  He was good. He did what he had to do when
• 44:49
  they want to check what that one championship and the finish
• 44:51
  runs. But yeah.
• 44:53
  Aaron I'll, I'll give you your beard Game is fantastic.
• 44:59
  Oh, we got a shout out from Jabba the Beard right there.
• 45:02
  Your name is. Fantastic.
• 45:04
  Strong. Thank you man.
• 45:05
  I try, I try my best. Thank.
• 45:06
  You strong, a little stronger than maybe picking a Cover 3
• 45:10
  corner this early, but I will definitely go on with my next
• 45:15
  pick to someone who was taken from us a little too soon.
• 45:19
  Yes, I'm talking about Sean Taylor.
• 45:21
  Sean Taylor, absolute legend for the Redskins while they were
• 45:26
  still called that. Could have been the best ever.
• 45:28
  That could have been the hardest hitting, flying around safety,
• 45:31
  coming from deep, just taking people.
• 45:33
  How about? Him.
• 45:34
  How about him in the Pro Bowl on that hit?
• 45:37
  I was going to bring that up. So I was telling you about how
• 45:39
  such a big Bills supporter back when I was in college, their
• 45:43
  punter was a guy named Brian Mormon.
• 45:45
  Now, Brian Mormon was the guy who got absolutely demolished by
• 45:48
  Sean Taylor on that famous kick off on or is it onside?
• 45:53
  I forget exactly what it was, but it was special teams play in
• 45:55
  the Pro Bowl back when they played and Sean Taylor took his
• 45:59
  effing head off. It was unbelievable.
• 46:02
  I do want to say I once painted my roommate's body with a Brian
• 46:06
  Mormon jersey and at a Bills game bare chested in the snow
• 46:10
  against like Brady Quinn on Monday Night Football.
• 46:13
  It was a terrible game, but they love themselves then Bills over
• 46:17
  there. But I.
• 46:19
  I was going to say, you know, I call the Chargers the least
• 46:21
  clutch team in in football. I used to call the Bills the
• 46:24
  most average team in football because they were always either
• 46:26
  like 6 to 9 wins every year. They.
• 46:27
  Were never relaxed. The average The average team.
• 46:31
  Until now they. Were way below average when I
• 46:34
  was down there. It was JP Lossman era and all he
• 46:36
  did was have a lot of losses. Man.
• 46:40
  Let's move on to Jake. Actually, no, wait.
• 46:44
  We start with Jake. So Tommy.
• 46:45
  Yeah, Tommy. All right.
• 46:47
  I think it's Tommy. Give me Champ Bailey now Champ
• 46:50
  Bailey is. Some people might say that one
• 46:53
  of the best coverage cornerbacks of all time would be Darrelle
• 46:56
  Revis or a plethora of other guys.
• 46:58
  Defensively, defensive back wise, Champ Bailey has the most
• 47:03
  passes deflected of all time. He was just one of these best,
• 47:07
  like one of the most coverage guys that nobody ever wanted to
• 47:10
  throw on that side of the field. Nobody ever wanted to even try
• 47:12
  to test him. And in the open field, you knew
• 47:14
  he was going to try to definitely pop you.
• 47:16
  I could have sworn he snuck in with that.
• 47:18
  I could have sworn he was still on the roster for that 2015
• 47:21
  Broncos team that won the Super Bowl.
• 47:23
  But it's a shame. Now, he wasn't on that team.
• 47:25
  He was on the one that lost to Seattle.
• 47:26
  Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
• 47:27
  So I could. I remember him going to the
• 47:28
  Super Bowl. I could have sworn it was the
• 47:30
  one where they actually won. But it's a shame he never
• 47:32
  actually got to win a ring because Champ Bailey, for years,
• 47:35
  years, even his early years in Washington, for years, was the
• 47:38
  best cornerback in the league by far.
• 47:40
  So give me Champ Bailey. All right.
• 47:44
  And last pick in the second round before you come back with
• 47:47
  your first pick in the last round, Mr. Jake.
• 47:51
  I forget fish. You did say safeties are good
• 47:53
  too, right? Yes, I did.
• 47:54
  All right, good. I can't believe I forgot this
• 47:56
  pick. A little bit of a Homer again,
• 47:58
  but I'm going to go with Ryan Dawkins.
• 48:00
  You want to. Talk about like who is struck
• 48:03
  fear into someone other than I think Jabba's pick of Troy,
• 48:06
  Paula Malu, Ryan Dawkins was the ultimate fear monger.
• 48:10
  You were just afraid to line up against him, a guy who would run
• 48:13
  all the way across the field and just murder you.
• 48:16
  Obviously multi time all pro and Hall of Famer, the man just he
• 48:21
  struck fear into his opponents. And you know, at a time when
• 48:23
  football was a very violent game and you know, it was just so
• 48:27
  much fun to watch for me as the Eagles fan brought up in those
• 48:29
  early days. So yeah, Brian Dawkins for me,
• 48:32
  he's up there. Oh yeah, he was great.
• 48:37
  Yeah, he didn't. Suck.
• 48:40
  I do remember Shockey catching touchdowns over him.
• 48:43
  That's all good though. Well, you know, let him know.
• 48:45
  Fish here and there catching this pass.
• 48:46
  He was a little undersized, a great player.
• 48:48
  Jake last pick First pick of the third round.
• 48:52
  Your last pick. OK.
• 48:54
  Yeah. So for my last pick or of the
• 48:56
  third round or start of the third round, I'm going to go
• 48:58
  with a little bit of a younger guy, but a guy who's been a
• 49:00
  great vet so far. I'm like, I'm going to go with
• 49:02
  Marshawn Lattimore. He's been a multi time Pro
• 49:05
  Bowler. He was defensive rookie of the
• 49:07
  year, you know, his first year in 2017 starting.
• 49:09
  All I can think about are those wars he's had with Mike Evans,
• 49:12
  constantly getting into scrums and fights, talking so much
• 49:15
  trash. A similar to Richard Sherman,
• 49:18
  maybe in a little bit more of a humble way, quietly.
• 49:20
  But he's been, you know, one of the most, I think, underrated
• 49:23
  quarterbacks recently just because I think everyone thinks
• 49:25
  of the spot, the spats he has with Mike Evans and
• 49:27
  occasionally, you know, the wide receivers went out more.
• 49:29
  But Marshawn Lattimore, you know, especially, I hate the
• 49:31
  fact that he's with the Commanders now.
• 49:33
  He's been such a great, fantastic lockdown corner in the
• 49:37
  league and he's going to be, you know, revered as one of the
• 49:39
  greatest corners of the 20 twenties.
• 49:41
  Absolutely. Tommy, this is going.
• 49:44
  To be way, way out there way before anybody's time on this
• 49:48
  panel, of course, but give me Dick the night train lane for
• 49:52
  mainly for just being the pioneer.
• 49:55
  I would say as a cornerback what a modern textbook cornerback is
• 49:59
  today. Really set the foundation and
• 50:01
  really was the kind of guy who used to do a little bit of both
• 50:04
  most the hard hitting ability and as well as the one of the
• 50:08
  first only guys you would see, of course, like sort of fool
• 50:10
  quarterback, sort of bait and switch open open to A to a wide
• 50:13
  open wide receiver. And what hey, I may say if you
• 50:17
  ever if you are out there as a Madden player, I kind of fell
• 50:19
  off the Madden game for the quite a couple of years, but one
• 50:22
  of my ultimate teams had Dick the night train lane as a
• 50:25
  legends card. I think it was like close to
• 50:27
  like 98 overall, but one of the best players and like I said, a
• 50:30
  foundation of what a cornerback is today.
• 50:32
  So give me night train lane. I mean, I got to go with this
• 50:39
  guy because he was such a great guest on our show very recently.
• 50:43
  His name is Leroy Butler and Leroy Butler is a Hall of Famer.
• 50:47
  Was a legend for the Packers in the 90s, late 80s, Absolute
• 50:51
  savage out there. Was ball hawk before there were
• 50:55
  a lot of ball Hawks at the safety position.
• 50:57
  Made it. Was a Shore, shore tackler.
• 51:00
  And yeah, he's one of those guys that defenses had to account for
• 51:05
  every time they played that team.
• 51:06
  They had the pass rush with Reggie White.
• 51:09
  And when the pass rush got there, Leroy Butler was making
• 51:11
  plays on bad balls. It was a beautiful defense.
• 51:16
  You forget about that because of Brett Favre.
• 51:18
  But I'll tell you right now, Leroy Butler was, you know,
• 51:21
  player. It was a 90s All Madden player
• 51:23
  team. That guy is real deal.
• 51:26
  Hall of Famer Leroy Butler. Let's go to Aaron.
• 51:32
  So like I said, I don't know a lot about football, so
• 51:34
  unfortunately I think I'm going to have to bow out of this one.
• 51:37
  I don't know a lot of a lot of saves in the quarterback.
• 51:39
  So that's all. I'm going to give one to you
• 51:42
  that I, I, I'm tempted was to say, but I wouldn't dare do it.
• 51:46
  His name is Jason Seahorn, and Jason Seahorn was a stud until
• 51:51
  he tore his knee on a preseason kick return.
• 51:55
  But before that, he ate your Eagles lunch every.
• 52:00
  Single. Game We.
• 52:01
  Were going to. Go there, go back and watch the
• 52:04
  tape. Go back.
• 52:05
  Famous interception on a tip ball where he was on the ground,
• 52:08
  popped it up to himself, stood up and took it to the house.
• 52:11
  One of the best highlights in Giant's history.
• 52:14
  Absolute stud. Also married to Angie Harmon.
• 52:18
  You guys are too young to know who that is.
• 52:19
  Jabba isn't what well. He was, but not that.
• 52:23
  No, no. But at the time it was like a
• 52:25
  big deal. Oh, you know, the Law and Order
• 52:27
  woman is married to Jason Sehorn.
• 52:29
  Oh yeah, she is. I spent it NASA bar with them.
• 52:33
  Really. Very cool.
• 52:35
  All right, So, Jay, we're going to give Aaron, Jason Sehorn.
• 52:38
  I don't think that's going to be enough to win though, Speedy.
• 52:41
  All right, I'll stay in the NFC. So we'll go to a different era.
• 52:43
  Daryl Green when a guy that was an undersized corner that I
• 52:46
  think it was one of the fastest corners at that time, especially
• 52:49
  when you didn't have that like freak athletic corners yet in
• 52:52
  the in the 1970s, Nineteen seventies, 1980s, tremendous
• 52:55
  longevity too. And I think he played up up
• 52:58
  until that 2002 thousand teen, kind of the end of that Joe
• 53:01
  Gibbs era type. But 171617 years he played a
• 53:05
  corner and played at a very high level for quite a while.
• 53:08
  I think one of the most underappreciated ones I got to
• 53:10
  go with Darrell Green. And to finish up the round,
• 53:14
  Jabba. I'm going to go in the same
• 53:18
  aspect of kind of what Speedy did Steve Atwater.
• 53:23
  Good choice. Played ten years, won three
• 53:29
  Super Bowls and was kind of just one of those guys that did what
• 53:39
  he was supposed to be good at, right?
• 53:42
  And he was that dude. He had numbers.
• 53:47
  He went in the Hall of Fame in 2020.
• 53:51
  And I just, I can't, I can't go against these old heads because
• 53:57
  he wasn't as physical as those other guys, but Steve Atwater
• 54:02
  was able to hard guys and do the things that he did.
• 54:10
  He had 24 interceptions and had over 1100 tackles.
• 54:21
  Like I just I, but it is a lot and I just, I love like those
• 54:30
  guys that just like I'm a slide under the radar, but I'm still a
• 54:36
  dude and he's still a Hall of Famer.
• 54:39
  Fish, he certainly is. Speaking of guests of the show,
• 54:41
  our friend Christian Akoya I'm sure remember Steve Atwater
• 54:44
  pretty well. Oh, I bet he would.
• 54:47
  Oh man, I bet he would you. Have to ask him about it next
• 54:50
  time. Yeah, Zach, you were the king
• 54:52
  from last time we played with you.
• 54:54
  Therefore, based on your completely arbitrary absolute
• 54:59
  powers, who are the two people moving on to the next round to
• 55:03
  the joust? I just want to say, firstly, I'm
• 55:06
  kind of surprised no one took Camp Chancellor.
• 55:09
  I don't know, maybe that's just a young kid in me, but I have
• 55:14
  the two and I'm going to go with Tommy and Speedy.
• 55:18
  I mean, Ed Reed, you can't go wrong.
• 55:21
  Ed Reed. I mean, arguably the greatest
• 55:22
  safety of all time. They they give all the best ones
• 55:27
  you you got to give us some love like to get some old ones he's.
• 55:30
  The King though, you know what I mean?
• 55:32
  Like, damn, you're the King Steve.
• 55:35
  Steve. It's all I went for. 20th
• 55:38
  century ones. All right, finish your
• 55:41
  explanation, Zach. But Ed Reed, obviously one of
• 55:44
  the greatest safeties of all time, probably the greatest
• 55:46
  safety of all time. And then I had to look up Dick
• 55:48
  Lane. I've never heard of him.
• 55:50
  He has the NFL record for interceptions in a season.
• 55:52
  So I feel like that's just got to go.
• 55:54
  I feel like that you got to pick him.
• 55:55
  And then Speedy, Ronnie Lott, Rod Woodson and Daryl Green,
• 56:00
  arguably all the greatest, like Ronnie Lott, one of the greatest
• 56:02
  safeties of all time. Rod Woodson, one of the most
• 56:05
  versatile DBS ever. And then Daryl Green, I mean,
• 56:08
  he's not, I looked him up again because I don't know who he is.
• 56:10
  He's known for his speed. He shut down, he shut down wide
• 56:13
  receivers for around 2 decades. Like so I feel like it was kind
• 56:18
  of easy going with Tommy and Speedy, so I just got to go with
• 56:20
  them. All right, we don't have to
• 56:22
  enjoy the the ruling powers of the king, we just have to obey.
• 56:26
  And we will now move on to the next round.
• 56:30
  And it's just got everyone else who didn't make it in.
• 56:32
  Pop your cameras off and we will get into Round 2, which for this
• 56:38
  game will be if it's going to let me load here we go the
• 56:42
  joust. Our finalists will compete on
• 56:45
  the best Super Bowls of all time.
• 56:50
  Arbitrary what you mean best? You have to explain it.
• 56:54
  Therefore, Zach, you need to be really, it's not so much about
• 56:57
  which game, it's also their explanation.
• 57:00
  All right, so let's get to that Cam for it right there and let's
• 57:05
  start with whoever you feel like should start King Zach.
• 57:10
  I'm a, I'm a let. I'm a let Speedy start.
• 57:14
  I like Speedy. I like Speedy's knowledge of the
• 57:16
  game. I want to hear what he says all.
• 57:18
  Right, I'm speedy. I'm going to start with I'm
• 57:20
  going to judge it based on the quality of play.
• 57:22
  Cowboys, Steelers Super Bowl 1976.
• 57:25
  I was mentioning in our previous debates with Errol like I'm
• 57:27
  thinking one of the 1976 Steelers one of the best teams
• 57:30
  ever than the Cowboys. I was talking about Drew Pearson
• 57:31
  last week and that 70s offense to go along with the defense too
• 57:36
  that was loaded up front for the Dallas Cowboys.
• 57:38
  Very close back and forth game throughout.
• 57:40
  Tons of Hall of Farmers on the collectively grow both of those
• 57:43
  teams. Yeah, a legendary game for sure,
• 57:47
  Tommy. All right, so completely non
• 57:50
  biased Giants fan with this situation, but it has to be the
• 57:54
  2008 New York Giants defeating the undefeated New England
• 58:00
  Patriots. Listen, listen, listen, listen.
• 58:03
  That team was absolutely loaded. There was no stopping that team
• 58:07
  regular season or postseason come.
• 58:10
  I know Jake is an is a little bit upset about that one.
• 58:12
  But look, come that season come that Super Bowl, everybody had
• 58:17
  the giants written off as a fairy tale.
• 58:18
  It was it wasn't even a thought that the that the Brady with
• 58:22
  also the Randy Moss LED New England Patriots a stellar
• 58:25
  defense that they had was going to have no problem with running
• 58:27
  away with it. Not only is it the best
• 58:32
  Cinderella run of all time, you can't say upset without saying
• 58:35
  the 2008 New York Giants. It went from even having the
• 58:39
  infamous It happened, the infamous Eli Manning surviving
• 58:43
  that. I don't know how he got out of
• 58:44
  that sack. So throwing it up to David
• 58:46
  Tyrene. Also Plexigo Burris with the
• 58:48
  amazing catch toward the end to seal it the best upset of all
• 58:52
  time. And like I said, when the best
• 58:53
  Cinderella runs of all time, the 2008 New York Giants.
• 58:58
  Cinderella story indeed, Speedy. All right, I'll go with one that
• 59:02
  unfortunately Leroy Butler's team could not come through him.
• 59:05
  But the Packers against the Broncos, that's Super Bowl.
• 59:08
  Obviously John Elway with an heroic leap to get into the red
• 59:11
  zone. Terrell Davis, that big back and
• 59:13
  forth game, he had that almost 200 yards or 200 yard game in
• 59:17
  that one. Brett Favre obviously putting up
• 59:18
  the numbers that he put up with that amazing receiving corps we
• 59:21
  talked about with him, with Sterling Sharp and Antonio
• 59:23
  Freeman, those guys, it was just a great back and forth game.
• 59:26
  3127 final with the Broncos and the Packers.
• 59:29
  One of those instant classics in the late 90s.
• 59:33
  Tommy, I'm. Going to stay on the topic of
• 59:35
  undefeated teams and I'm going to do it with the only team that
• 59:38
  went undefeated in all of all the NFL season and go with the
• 59:43
  74 Miami Dolphins this team after, I'm sorry, not the 74,
• 59:47
  the 73 Miami Dolphins this team after being denied a Super Bowl
• 59:52
  of the year previously said the Dallas Cowboys like Speedy
• 59:55
  mentioned. 7272. The 72, I'm sorry, the season of
• 1:00:00
  72, yeah, the 72 season, basically.
• 1:00:03
  There's no denying that that team was just stellar.
• 1:00:07
  That team, That team was very stellar.
• 1:00:09
  And of course, went up against a heavily contested work many
• 1:00:11
  people thought was going to be, you know.
• 1:00:13
  Somewhat of an upset at the time, one of the big, the
• 1:00:15
  biggest upset for the Washington Redskins, possibly doing it over
• 1:00:18
  the Miami Dolphins. But the Miami Dolphins proved
• 1:00:21
  that they were the only team, of course, that like I said, go
• 1:00:24
  undefeated and really is only the measuring stick of, you
• 1:00:28
  know, what a team should really want to do every single season
• 1:00:31
  of an NFL season. So give me the undefeated
• 1:00:34
  Dolphins. Speedy All right, I'm going to
• 1:00:37
  go with one. I forget if it was you or Errol
• 1:00:39
  that went with it when you guys did it for pound for pound, but
• 1:00:41
  I like that. That Rams Titan, Super Bowl,
• 1:00:44
  obviously 2 expansion team, not expansion teams, relocated teams
• 1:00:47
  at the time. The Saint Louis Rams Greatest
• 1:00:49
  Show on turf, my first choice for the best offense in NFL
• 1:00:52
  history last week. And then that Tennessee team,
• 1:00:54
  obviously Eddie George, a tremendous defense.
• 1:00:56
  Steve McNair, that defense that that defense that they move over
• 1:01:01
  from the Oilers, they could never get over the hump.
• 1:01:02
  They kept losing the AFC championship or the second round
• 1:01:05
  of the playoffs. They that back collapse against
• 1:01:06
  the Bills. Obviously when the Oilers and
• 1:01:08
  1st year going over to Tennessee and they're very close.
• 1:01:10
  And obviously the after winning the miracle, the Music City
• 1:01:15
  miracle, they were one yard short.
• 1:01:16
  I mean, it was a thrilling finish throughout a 23 to 16
• 1:01:18
  back and forth game. So very underrated one because
• 1:01:22
  obviously the Rams until recently only that's their one
• 1:01:24
  Super Bowl. But I think for the storylines
• 1:01:27
  and the players involved in that, that's a good one to go
• 1:01:30
  with that 99, two thousand season with the Rams and the
• 1:01:32
  Titans. Finish it up, Tommy.
• 1:01:35
  So since PP just took my pick, I'm going to actually go with
• 1:01:37
  some. This was sort of somewhat
• 1:01:39
  touched on the Last King of the Hill with Errol actually here,
• 1:01:43
  but I'm going to go with the 1997 Denver Broncos season more
• 1:01:47
  specifically this the first, of course, of course they went
• 1:01:49
  back-to-back. That was my.
• 1:01:51
  Speedy already took, I took. Speed already took that one.
• 1:01:53
  Packers. Broncos.
• 1:01:54
  Yeah, I didn't. Know you said that one.
• 1:01:56
  That is my apology, but you know what?
• 1:01:58
  I'm actually going to go with one.
• 1:01:59
  That's enough recent memory. I'm going to go with someone
• 1:02:03
  that's BD actually mentioned with the same Kurt Warner LED
• 1:02:06
  team. I'm going to go with the
• 1:02:07
  Pittsburgh Steelers and Arizona Cardinals.
• 1:02:10
  I think that's a very underrated Super Bowl in this sense.
• 1:02:12
  I don't want to say underrated, but that is a very underrated
• 1:02:15
  Super Bowl of recent memory. I would say for the sense of you
• 1:02:18
  had Ben Roethlisberger taking it to the Arizona Cardinals.
• 1:02:22
  Kurt Warner LED where he really just found himself A-Team after
• 1:02:25
  getting let go of the New York Giants and really revolutionized
• 1:02:28
  the Cardinals going into the season.
• 1:02:30
  Of course, Dumb and the Eagles were the ones that of course
• 1:02:33
  emerged out of the NFC as the last two teams and numb, of
• 1:02:35
  course, beating the Eagles the the the two nine win teams in
• 1:02:38
  the conference finals, which is kind of funny.
• 1:02:40
  But yeah, you know, just that was just such a classic that we
• 1:02:43
  could ever have, honestly, with Kurt Warner and Ben
• 1:02:46
  Roethlisberger going back and forth and one of Harrison with
• 1:02:50
  the longest interception who returned for a touchdown in a
• 1:02:53
  Super Bowl, as well as Kurt Warner tying it back or getting
• 1:02:58
  the late back with Santonio Holmes with one of the greatest
• 1:03:00
  catches of all times and probably the greatest catch in
• 1:03:03
  it to win a Super Bowl. Give me the 2008 Pittsburgh
• 1:03:07
  Steelers winning the Super Bowl that year.
• 1:03:09
  Give me that super. Bowl.
• 1:03:10
  All right, Zach, who are you facing?
• 1:03:14
  So they're all good choices. I love, I love Phoenix knowledge
• 1:03:18
  of the game. I love Tommy's choices.
• 1:03:22
  It's tough. It's it's really tough.
• 1:03:23
  I mean, Tommy, he has the greatest team of all time record
• 1:03:27
  wise and winning the championship wise.
• 1:03:29
  And then Speedy just has a lot of knowledge in the game.
• 1:03:31
  It's kind of intimidating. But you're the king.
• 1:03:35
  I am the king. I am going to choose, however,
• 1:03:38
  because he said my favorite Super Bowl of all time.
• 1:03:41
  I'm going to choose Tommy because I love, I'm an Eagles
• 1:03:43
  fan, but I love the Steelers and Cardinals, the Super Bowl
• 1:03:47
  because I mean, I always rewatch who was it?
• 1:03:50
  Was it? It wasn't.
• 1:03:52
  Was it Santonio who caught the touchdown?
• 1:03:54
  Antonio Holmes caught in the corner.
• 1:03:56
  That's who I thought it was. OK, I wasn't sure though.
• 1:03:58
  But that catch I think is one of the greatest catches of all
• 1:04:01
  time. So I'm gonna go.
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  With last week. I know I didn't.
• 1:04:06
  I wasn't here last week, but I was hoping that was one of the
• 1:04:08
  greatest catches that you guys talked about.
• 1:04:10
  But I'm gonna go with Tommy just because he mentioned my favorite
• 1:04:13
  Super Bowl that I've ever watched.
• 1:04:14
  All right, everybody come back in.
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  We are now gonna be the voters for this round.
• 1:04:20
  Yes, your absolute monarchy is over, Zach.
• 1:04:23
  This is going to be constitutional.
• 1:04:25
  We're going to vote on it. And David Tyree had the best
• 1:04:28
  catch ever. Yeah, and that was the first one
• 1:04:30
  I brought up that round. Yeah, So that that that was last
• 1:04:33
  time. We're going to have a little bit
• 1:04:35
  tougher topic for round three guys.
• 1:04:41
  I want to know who are the best offensive lineman in NFL
• 1:04:48
  history. Yes, a topic that I know very
• 1:04:52
  well that I may have been angling for finals that I would
• 1:04:56
  dominate if I was ever in it. But I would like to hear from
• 1:05:00
  the two of you guys. Can you decide if you go first
• 1:05:03
  or second? I'm going to.
• 1:05:06
  Go second. I want to hear what Tommy has to
• 1:05:07
  say. Always crack.
• 1:05:09
  Oh, all right, Tommy. Well, I'm going to have to take
• 1:05:14
  a guy who just recently retired from the NFL.
• 1:05:18
  I'm going to have to go with Jason Kelsey, center of the
• 1:05:23
  Philadelphia Eagles. Of course, now Jason Kelsey has
• 1:05:25
  to easily go down as one of the greatest centers of all time.
• 1:05:29
  Jason Kelsey really was, I wouldn't say a matriarch, but of
• 1:05:32
  course one of the guys behind the tush push.
• 1:05:34
  Of course that was. So that's why I wouldn't say
• 1:05:38
  that. But you know, Patriarch, I'm
• 1:05:41
  sorry. That you're you just called him
• 1:05:43
  a woman. Oh, Patriarch, whatever.
• 1:05:46
  You know you know what that means.
• 1:05:48
  Right, whatever whole point is. Is that the the grandma like big
• 1:05:52
  Mama? You just called him Big Mama.
• 1:05:54
  Well, he's the big Mama that's pushing Jalen Hurts his ass into
• 1:05:56
  the end zone. So fair.
• 1:05:59
  So look, Jason Kelsey, really stellar guy on the field and
• 1:06:03
  really a stellar guy off the field.
• 1:06:04
  Nobody could really ever say anything negative about him.
• 1:06:06
  He was really that that go to leader on the team as a lineman,
• 1:06:10
  really just the leader of the offense and really helped really
• 1:06:13
  morale his guys. Not anybody has anything to say
• 1:06:16
  negatively about him. So what a great teammate of
• 1:06:18
  overall and one of one of the best centers of all time as it
• 1:06:21
  makes me want to throw up in my mouth as I'm saying that about
• 1:06:23
  an Eagle. All right, whatever, Zach Hater.
• 1:06:28
  I'm gonna go with he's not retired, but I'm gonna go with
• 1:06:31
  Jason Kelsey's teammate. I'm gonna go with Lane Johnson.
• 1:06:34
  I forget when he was drafted, but.
• 1:06:36
  I said of all time, not of the Eagles in the last five years.
• 1:06:41
  Right lane Johnson is at that time.
• 1:06:43
  Why is everybody covered in the Eagles right now?
• 1:06:45
  Like what? I mean, what are we doing?
• 1:06:47
  But all the time. Lane Johnson, I mean, he's what,
• 1:06:50
  like. Talk about lineman.
• 1:06:52
  You didn't talk about Neil Smith.
• 1:06:53
  It's all right. No, no, let them, let them go,
• 1:06:55
  Let them go all. Right.
• 1:06:57
  Well shit, I'm. Sorry, no.
• 1:06:58
  But like Lane Johnson, he's what, like 35-6?
• 1:07:02
  And he's still one of the best, probably the best right tackle
• 1:07:05
  in the league right now. I mean, he shuts down Envy, he
• 1:07:07
  shuts down like a Parsons, he shuts down Nick Bose.
• 1:07:11
  He's just on everyone and he's just a dominant player of all
• 1:07:15
  time. I think he's one of the most
• 1:07:16
  dominant players of all time at his position.
• 1:07:18
  So I'm going to go with Lane Johnson.
• 1:07:21
  Terrible. Terrible.
• 1:07:23
  What a king we have, Tommy. Bite your tongue, Aaron.
• 1:07:28
  All right, I get it. You let the king speak.
• 1:07:32
  I will be going. What are you the Sheriff of?
• 1:07:34
  Like Nottingham over here or something.
• 1:07:38
  Right, so I'm going to be going with one of the best offensive
• 1:07:40
  tackles of all time and Mr. Anthony Munoz where another guy
• 1:07:43
  who I mentioned night train lane, another guy Anthony Munoz
• 1:07:47
  on my Madden Ultimate Team. You know, one of the best run
• 1:07:50
  stoppers, really one of the most stellar tackles.
• 1:07:54
  When you think of a tackle, you really want to follow this model
• 1:07:57
  of this guy. Really what?
• 1:08:00
  All pro almost every single year in the NFL and really was a big
• 1:08:05
  reason why they went to two Super Bowls back in the day for
• 1:08:08
  the Cincinnati Bengals. So give me Anthony Munoz.
• 1:08:12
  All right, Zach. I'm a go with Bruce Matthews.
• 1:08:17
  He was a long time Houston Oiler in Titans.
• 1:08:21
  He played every position and on the offensive line for a Pro
• 1:08:24
  Bowl at Provo level which I never knew.
• 1:08:26
  That was kind of insane when I looked it up.
• 1:08:29
  He's a 14 time pro Bowler, which is the most of all time on for
• 1:08:32
  an O lineman NFL record seven time first all team pro and he
• 1:08:38
  also played nineteen seasons. So he's the definition of
• 1:08:40
  longevity for an offensive lineman in the NFL, which is I
• 1:08:44
  just feel like it's unheard of, especially now in the game now.
• 1:08:48
  So I'm gonna go with Bruce Matthews.
• 1:08:50
  Also play Matthews Junior's uncle if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:08:54
  I didn't know that as well. A bunch of Matthews were great
• 1:08:58
  football players for short. Tommy, last one.
• 1:09:02
  You didn't say Larry Allen as your first, did you?
• 1:09:04
  What was that? Said Larry Allen.
• 1:09:06
  All. Right, we'll go in Larry Allen
• 1:09:08
  because Larry Allen was just that dude honestly for the for a
• 1:09:12
  while, honestly was one of the best, one of the better tackles
• 1:09:15
  and regarded as one of the strongest guys to ever really be
• 1:09:18
  behind the line. Actually passed away at last
• 1:09:21
  June. So rest in peace for him.
• 1:09:23
  But really what another what another stellar got was really
• 1:09:26
  an all pro player for six consecutive seasons, which is
• 1:09:29
  very hard to do and 11 time pro bowler as well.
• 1:09:32
  They made very well, likely very respectfully is in the Dallas
• 1:09:36
  Cowboys Ring of Honor and as well as the Pro Football Hall of
• 1:09:39
  Fame. The guy wasn't stoppable to get
• 1:09:40
  past and really a very, very dominant tackle overall.
• 1:09:45
  I'm very strong man as well, so give me Mr. Allen.
• 1:09:50
  All right, Zach, last pick to end the game.
• 1:09:53
  I'm gonna go with Jonathan Ogden.
• 1:09:55
  He's an offensive line tackle for the Ravens.
• 1:09:57
  He was actually the first pick in Baltimore Ravens history.
• 1:10:01
  He's 11 time Pro Bowl selection. He's a four time first team all
• 1:10:04
  pro selection. He's part of the 2000s all
• 1:10:08
  decade team. And he won a Super Bowl with the
• 1:10:10
  Ravens in 2000 and a Hall of Fame inductee in 2013.
• 1:10:14
  So you just got to go with Jonathan Ogden.
• 1:10:16
  I feel like that's an obvious one.
• 1:10:17
  All right, time for us to vote. I'll start off the voting again.
• 1:10:21
  Majority rules on this one. All right, this is how I I see
• 1:10:25
  it. I'm going to ignore both of your
• 1:10:26
  dumb ass Eagles guys and that's a wash.
• 1:10:31
  Munoz and Larry Allen are the best tackle and guard probably
• 1:10:37
  of all time. Except I didn't like the
• 1:10:41
  explanations. I don't think you even know a
• 1:10:43
  single thing about Anthony Munoz, Tommy.
• 1:10:46
  But who was his? What team did he play for the?
• 1:10:48
  Bengals. I said that look OK Munoz.
• 1:10:52
  I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of Munoz.
• 1:10:54
  You did say he was a run stuffer.
• 1:10:56
  That's what a defensive lineman would do.
• 1:10:58
  So because of the explanations, I'm going to go with Zach.
• 1:11:02
  I also Bruce Matthews being a Pro Bowler in every position, he
• 1:11:05
  was on my list of guys that I would have taken.
• 1:11:08
  And Jonathan Ogden was a generation ahead version of
• 1:11:11
  Anthony Munoz. You can say that those two guys
• 1:11:14
  are a watch. So I'm going to go with the
• 1:11:16
  Bruce Matthews pick and the explanation going with Zach to
• 1:11:19
  stay the king. Let's go to Jake.
• 1:11:24
  All right, so Mr. Salty over there, Aaron don't listen to his
• 1:11:26
  nonsense. And he's just salty that his
• 1:11:28
  giant of the deal with Jackson Dark that he's coming.
• 1:11:31
  Lane Johnson is a wild pick for this.
• 1:11:34
  I understand that, I understand, but he's one of the best tackles
• 1:11:37
  in the league right now and you can't spate that despite your
• 1:11:40
  hatred. You can't not say that that's
• 1:11:42
  not true. I understand in terms of like
• 1:11:44
  yes all maybe. He's top 50 all time.
• 1:11:47
  I gave you guys 3 picks that should be top 6.
• 1:11:50
  No, no, no, I I'm not disagreeing with you.
• 1:11:52
  Yes, all time it was a it was a wild pet.
• 1:11:54
  And then like my I love that. And I will say though, by a
• 1:11:57
  side, yes, they shouldn't have gone that way.
• 1:11:59
  But I will say this, as much as I do love Jason Kelsey, I think
• 1:12:03
  he does get a little bit overrated with his marketing and
• 1:12:05
  his and his character. He's he was a great player, But
• 1:12:09
  as my dad always likes to say, I have arguments with him that he
• 1:12:11
  was more of a run blocker. He's not a great pass protector.
• 1:12:14
  You know, obviously he's just a, she was a shorter player.
• 1:12:17
  So that always hurt him in that sense.
• 1:12:19
  And I actually think I was I'm going to go with Tommy.
• 1:12:22
  But I think Aaron, you did sway me a little bit more with the
• 1:12:25
  the Jonathan Ogden pick. I think I think the the Larry
• 1:12:28
  Allen, it was really, really close for me.
• 1:12:30
  But I am going to roll, I think with Zach as well on that pick
• 1:12:33
  with Jonathan Ogden. And who is it that your second
• 1:12:36
  pick? It was it was who was your
• 1:12:38
  second pick? Bruce Matthews.
• 1:12:41
  Bruce Matthews? Yeah.
• 1:12:42
  I mean, playing offensive lineman for that long is is
• 1:12:45
  ridiculous. And I, I think I think Tommy
• 1:12:47
  definitely got it with with Larry Allen, but I'm going to
• 1:12:50
  roll with Zach as well for the Eagles just because of the fact
• 1:12:53
  that I think Kelsey does get a little overrated because of his
• 1:12:56
  marketing. And I think Lane's a little bit
• 1:12:57
  more of a solid that he's been a getting better player as he's
• 1:13:01
  aged. And then, yeah, Jonathan Ogden,
• 1:13:03
  phenomenal. OK, that's two votes, Jabba.
• 1:13:11
  How do you vote, my friend? I vote on the same side.
• 1:13:22
  I got Zach. I got Zach.
• 1:13:25
  All right, that's going to push Zach over the over the top
• 1:13:27
  Speedy and Aaron just quickly, who you who'd you go with?
• 1:13:30
  Yeah, I was going to say quickly, I love Zach Bruce
• 1:13:32
  Matthews explanation that's it was tight with the player
• 1:13:35
  choices, but that's what really did it for me was him playing
• 1:13:38
  them all three positions and and he has the most and he's the
• 1:13:41
  most all pros ever. That's true.
• 1:13:43
  Yeah, that would have been Zach, too.
• 1:13:45
  Again, offensive line that couldn't, I couldn't name any,
• 1:13:49
  not even one of So I at least let's let's keep him up there,
• 1:13:53
  let's keep him up by, says King. Well apparently it's a fact the
• 1:13:57
  the attempted coup by Tommy who did not come through and Zach is
• 1:14:05
  the king once again. We will have to have a king off
• 1:14:09
  in the next time we play because we got a couple of kings left to
• 1:14:12
  be like ancient Sparta where they had two kings.
• 1:14:14
  I bet you didn't know that you learn something every day on
• 1:14:16
  King of the Hill Speedy. Wes couldn't make it.
• 1:14:21
  He couldn't stay on as late. So we just have some let's
• 1:14:24
  parlay picks. Why don't you read them off for
• 1:14:26
  us? Really.
• 1:14:26
  Quickly, the the Montreal pick I mentioned in the comments
• 1:14:29
  section during our interview, that one looks like it's going
• 1:14:31
  to hit. They're up 24 to 6 right now.
• 1:14:33
  He had them covering the -5 1/2 spread against Edmonton tomorrow
• 1:14:37
  7:30. He's got the Toronto Argonauts
• 1:14:40
  at home covering plus 2 1/2 against the Saskatchewan Rough
• 1:14:44
  Riders on Saturday, June, June 21st at 4:00.
• 1:14:48
  He's got the Ottawa Red Blacks on the road covering plus 1 1/2
• 1:14:52
  against the Calgary Stampeders in Calgary and surrounded out.
• 1:14:56
  He's got the BC Lions at home, covering plus 2 1/2 against what
• 1:15:00
  he calls the Patriots or Chiefs of the CFL in the Winnipeg Blue
• 1:15:04
  Bomber. So going against the dynasty,
• 1:15:07
  taking BC plus 2 1/2 at home. All right, and there it is.
• 1:15:12
  Your CFL picks. It's been wonderful.
• 1:15:15
  Thanks everybody that came on and helped out tonight.
• 1:15:18
  Our interns have been fantastic without Errol doing, putting up
• 1:15:22
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• 1:15:24
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• 1:15:27
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• 1:15:29
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• 1:15:31
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