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Ancient Aliums: Blade Runner, ChatGPT's Fake Citations & Ezra Miller · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  suck at Microsoft welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy so they we discussed last week how
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  they bringing the new rules about how you can't get the achievements in 5
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  minutes I've just played three games that have come out the last three weeks
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  since they've introduced the r that I got the CHS in a few minutes so oh
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  they're not enforcing it yet were the games approved before
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  probably probably they probably were I got an achievement yesterday uh that was
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  run away from three hippos but we can talk about that later um but like one of the
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  achievements like so I've got a game called Zombie Driver 2 sounds good it's
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  it's not a bad game it's like I like car games I like zombie games it sounds good
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  sounds fine yeah but remember like H Climber game like you just drive a car
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  and you got to get the fuel to get far it's that are you a zombie driving or
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  you driving a zombie you're no you're a you're driving a car running over
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  zombies shooting zombies okay got but actually it's a bit of a fun game you're
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  an Uber driver a zombie has booked you
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  about the problem about it though it's quite a fun little game and but you can
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  get every single achievement on the first level oh right right it's just
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  complete a level with three stars do a couple of flips hit a bird and just like
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  all fully up come then come back and play the game but that that's all You' hit a bir
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  in real life you have few birs do you remember when we were kids
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  it was perfectly acceptable to call women Birds cuz I remember once like I
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  know what you're going to say who's who who her name was we just called her bird
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  and that's what she answered to I thought you were going to say it was
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  never okay we just did it anyway which which I would have also accepted but I
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  remember once um my dad was on the phone and he came in I was who was that he's
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  like I just some bird from work and I'm like what but what what I think what was sort
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  of a bit funny about it at the time when we're saying Birds girls weren't talking
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  to us oh yeah talking them not to them yeah had pants with them maybe that was
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  part of the problem any birds want to go out with me
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  weird actually maybe they would have if I'd asked but I always thought I
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  couldn't get dates it's just that I never asked anyone out yeah yeah any you birds out
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  me don't understand what you're saying speak English speak
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  English uh uh my friend was playing
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  snowrunner which is a game oh yes that's a that's a driving game yes he brought
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  his lapt trivia and he was playing it at trivia yeah it's actually like a a truck
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  driving game you're a truck and you got to change GE I saw that yeah yeah but
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  truck simulator snow it looks it's on Game Pass it looked quite interesting
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  but he he he was off exploring the middle of nowhere flipped his current
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  truck over and then was like oh now I have to go and get it and I was like
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  what he had to go back take another truck to retrieve his truck the other
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  one over I mean that is what you would do in real life I suppose yeah yeah is
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  it it's a game that you need to commit time to it's not a casual game I'm going
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  to or anything he brought it to trivia to play That's How obsessed he is God
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  there's no story though you make your own story really no but you're right
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  Matt because that's like when I had those three years where all I played was
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  Conan Exiles that's got no story either which made it more addictive because you
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  project onto it your story yeah yeah you just so your mate is just living his
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  life as a trucker now y he's loving it yeah yeah you're living my life now in
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  uh ancient Egypt from I am and I'm loving this so Assassin's Creed Origins
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  now it it was it I went a roundabout way to getting this because we've been
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  talking about Assassin's Creed what's the new one called the
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  coming out one um Mirage Mirage yeah talking about that Middle Eastern
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  setting I thought is that just rehashing the first one and I realized how long it
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  had been since I actually played the first one and so I decided to go back um this is a
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  360 game and we are rapidly approaching a time where 360 games feel really retro
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  now like and the thing about it as well it was also early on in the 360
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  generation it was a launch title wasn't it it was close to they certainly they
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  certainly sold a lot of 360s for people buy Assassin's Creed and the best
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  example of what how it changed from like the beginning of the generation to the
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  end is Grand Theft Auto four to five that was both on the
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  yeah that's right that's a great example but um I played this for a little bit
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  and in fact I didn't even get out of the tutorial because I I found the tutorial
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  even quite tedious and uh I was like why am I playing a 15-year-old more game
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  when uh there's there's games already on my Xbox downloaded they figured out what
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  was fun about this and what wasn't correct away stuff that wasn't except
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  this game still has it yeah um and Origins is great and I agree with you I
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  think Origins is just as good as Odyssey not Pol and it's it's not as
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  vast but that's not a bad thing yeah um agreed although I ended up in a you
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  would have known this but I ended up in a bath house uh last oh yeah yeah yeah
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  um had to do a little bit of a house assassination well here's the thing I
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  was like last time I went into a bath house in an Assassin's Creed game I got
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  [ __ ] by like 12 dudes like they passed me around like a spliff you know what I
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  mean and um because in uh in Odyssey
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  everyone's [ __ ] horny for you like like know whether you play the the man
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  or the woman yeah dudes just want to [ __ ] you yeah Cassandra men women
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  whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah and I always said yes well sometimes you don't
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  really have a choice and when I because I didn't play Cassandra I played Dimitri
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  and uh alexio alexio yeah who's the [ __ ] is Demetri I'm not sure uh yeah I played
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  alexio and and um the only female that I had sex with
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  was an elderly woman and I rescued I her
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  husband had escaped because he couldn't keep up with her sexual prowess and then
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  she the quest was for me to go and retrieve him um and he begged me not to
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  bring him back to her but he's like I'll go back but you have to be the one that [ __ ]
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  her so I did just so tired everyone else
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  that that had relations with men I guess
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  in true Greek style yeah I mean I've learning a lot about ancient
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  history this week um from Odyssey and uh well Origins now so we've been playing
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  Origins I've been really enjoying it and I got to Giza right Giza and
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  um I got to ancient London Giza and it's the pyramids and the Sphinx right and
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  then even byak comments on this in the game you get to the Sphinx and I was I
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  was like oh it's bigger than that and then in the game he goes I thought this
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  thing was supposed to be bigger oh interesting and then so that was
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  interesting and then you go kind of hunting around inside the pyramids and
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  all that kind of thing like tomb of kufu and I was thinking I remember when I was
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  a kid I [ __ ] loved ancient Egypt and at the time there was a lot of stuff
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  floating around about how there were these hidden rooms in there and passages
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  in all that kind of stuff like surely we figured that stuff out by now right I'm
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  G to go on YouTube and see what the you know what the latest gos is about you
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  know the Sphinx in the pyramids what [ __ ] hell right what a
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  what a disaster the internet had been I couldn't all the results at first were
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  clips from EP episodes of Ancient Aliens oh and I'm not joking all of them
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  were either that or clips from Joe Rogan of some guy who was on Joe Rogan talking
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  about how he thinks oh yeah the pyramids and the Sphinx are actually 200,000
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  years old or something and the Egyptians just found them yeah and I was like
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  where's the where's the fact where's the history yeah right so so I'm like trying
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  quite hard now to find a video that's not like that it's just kind of you know
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  I don't mind that stuff but come on yeah you you you're actually looking for
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  information not entertain and so I was having trouble so then I was like okay
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  fine I'm going to look for I forget that guy's name but I was like that guy
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  debunked right it's not is it no I know who that is it's not that guy he's also
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  terrible but um yeah he's a [ __ ] with it's a different guy but but then so I
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  start looking for this deunk and the all the videos I can find are of people
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  saying the argument seems to be it's racist to suggest that ancient Egyptians
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  couldn't have built them and I'm like that's fair but could you do you have
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  more than that yeah yeah like I understand that an actual argument yeah
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  yeah yeah but is there not evidence that they were built around that time surely
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  there is right or we just saying that it's RAC it's the only reason we're
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  saying that they were built by the because it's racist to say that it wer
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  is that really only I have seen videos in the past showing how you get enough
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  people you can move these rocks like it is I'm sure we've done this right that's
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  why can't I find that information anymore what the [ __ ] is going because
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  it's gone man that information has been rep because I was looking up that stuff
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  YouTube then decided oh you want to know more about Cleopatra being black onf and
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  I was like oh yeah we should really talk about that cuz Luke and Luke and I had a
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  20min about that two weeks ago neither of us knowing anything about the context
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  know more than I wanted to now same same but we don't have to go back into it but
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  uh apologies apologies if you knew anything about it and listen to Luke and
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  I Stumble our way through it this is what I've learned right she was probably
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  Greek no 100% she was the it's incredibly unlikely that she was black
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  in fact no one really entertains that idea she might have been darker skinned
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  but probably not because she was literally almost certainly the daughter
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  of a guy from Cyprus and his wife who was also Greek yeah there's very little
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  to suggest that that's not the case and we have paintings of her and statues of
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  her we do she's a Greek woman or Macedonian looking yeah and that's the
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  thing and that's the the setting of Origins as well which I find quite
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  interesting that they did an ancient Egypt but not the actual ancient Egypt
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  they did the the helenic ancient Egypt that had already been taken over by of
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  the Great and the Greeks yeah I thought that was Odyssey I like so I kind of got over
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  yeah there there's one fact about the pyramids I know which I still find
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  interesting to this day you know like in Origins how they're smooth and yes they
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  were smooth back in the day but then they basically to tore the walls off to
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  go and make the wall for the city so the wall of the city is actually the outside
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  of the pyramids and that's why they're now stepped up cuz I was looking when
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  you're climbing up them I was like I'm pretty sure they're not smooth but yeah
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  they were originally were that's a nice detail then I like they used to also
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  have gold tops they're black I think like kind of obsidian right sure maybe
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  it's some sort of gold haven't gotten there yet but anyway the clear patch
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  thing is stupid I just don't understand and the I think the biggest problem is
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  they said it was a documentary and that's why yes I think and that's what
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  luk and and it's a documentary called black queens so oh is it I didn't even
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  know yeah and it's a series about various black queens which is fair
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  enough because I think nine out of 10 are about Africans but then one of them
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  was about Greek who rules even I don't know everything apparently about this no
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  no but but do you know why because none of the Articles talk about the facts
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  they just talk about how upset everyone is yeah and then how they're saying more
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  interesting that that you know the Netflix and the the even the actress who
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  played her which who who I would imagine you know know ill intent on her part is
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  now just as an who got aans and Greeks are racist like hang
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  on oh is she weighing in now too is she yeah she's
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  they're yeah anyway whatever this is all I just wanted to know are there [ __ ]
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  secret rooms in the pyramids that's all I wanted to know I will I still don't
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  know I remember I remember doing ancient history in high school and we did the
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  pyramids and it would have the thing where the the people who like built the
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  pyramids designed the rooms for like the pharaohs CU they're meant to be buried
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  they build like Escape hatchers so they could yes I'm going to be buried with a
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  pharaoh yes and then I just walk out the back door run away as you would yeah
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  because also like you know how they had to like pull the brain out and all that
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  stuff put it in jars well that was also bit sacrilegious because you're now
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  doing that to that so those people would be sort of murdered they had to sort of
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  Escape after doing the thing that they were meant to do so they could put the
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  stuff in the J right weird well there's a scene of that
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  in the original mummy and the original I mean the 1930s mummy not the bre frasia
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  but like they bury they bury the the king imep and then IM yeah and then a
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  bunch of soldiers kill the guys that buried them and then a bunch of other
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  soldiers kill those soldiers where does it end it's so that
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  when the King goes to I forget where they go he's got his servants there with
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  him yeah but I think I think you're right I think the thing that we have to
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  remember about the pyramids is that they serve no function whatsoever except as
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  essentially a massive paper weight over a tomb believe these [ __ ] videos that's
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  not the case well it is the case they align and also they not aligned to the
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  stars and it's like if you if you want to align them to the Stars you have to
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  ignore a lot of stars and a lot of pyramids they're like the size of them
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  is exactly divisible by the something I know I was like hang on I don't care
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  about this nonsense just tell me what's inside the [ __ ] thing yeah so you're
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  getting down this is how you get sucked into Flat Earth and then it just made me
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  sad because I'm like what where's the actual information these and it does
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  make me worri because it it actually led me more down because some of these
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  people talking about the clear Patra thing are talking about their concern is
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  that history is being Rewritten in a way right and now people one you know like
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  100 years from now are people going to think Cleopatra was black when probably
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  she wasn't and Andes like does that matter Ian but that one thing might not tell a lot
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  of people but if we keep doing that with everything like just deciding oh you you
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  know like oh you know they were much more diverse than we've ever said they
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  were in all these countries kind of thing but like they really weren't right
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  which is not a good thing but it's just a fact like I don't know it's just it
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  doesn't make me right because now like I said when I look up pyramids all I hear
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  about is aliens but I think that always happens you know what I mean like like
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  when you think of when you think of ancient what ancient Egypt looks like
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  you're probably thinking about paintings that Italians did during the Renaissance
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  sure and they kind of make it look way more Renaissance than it really was
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  actually that was one of the arguments about the sort of convincing arguments
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  with Cleopatra is that a lot of the statues and paintings were done by the
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  Romans of her because she spent a lot of time in Rome and it's like they might
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  have made her look more Roman because like that might be the case this is this
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  is a bit of a problem that you have with history depending on who writes it yeah
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  yeah I just feel like some of this stuff is like we're intentionally doing it now
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  or people in it's literally intentional yeah but I think the ancient surely that
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  started as a joke no one actually believes that except now that's what you
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  find when you look up stuff so maybe people will think it's people do believe
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  it and like I just told you about the measurements of it align with the Stars
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  that kind of stuff that's just presented as fact now when you look up the
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  pyramids that's the first thing you learn about them is this nonsense yeah
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  yeah just makes me sense I mean it's very interesting that's certainly more
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  interesting than just a bunch of [ __ ] slaves and day workers had to put it
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  together right it is so everyone's clicking on it so it's the first thing
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  that shows up because YouTube's like oh this is what people like yeah this is
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  but also the other thing you got to realize is that the pyramids were older
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  to Cleopatra than Cleopatra is to us sure like they were [ __ ] thousands of
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  years old because early Kingdom Egypt had way too much money to spend the the
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  kings were like when I die just build the biggest thing and then by the time
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  all that money was spent it wasn't as wealthy a country anymore and no one did
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  it again like because they serve no purpose you know what on that on that
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  point of revisionism already happening there was an Egyptian guy I saw talking
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  on some show getting mad about it because then he was also like we've had
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  to we spent all this time trying to tell everybody that no we didn't force the
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  Jews to build them we [ __ ] built them right and then now now they're at it
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  again yeah that's right yeah oh yeah good point there's no evidence that
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  there's no evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt um there's compelling
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  evidence that the whole Egyptian enslavement thing is a metaphor for the
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  Jewish Exile in Babylon which was happening at the time and they just
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  couldn't talk about Babylon and because they were literally there at the time so
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  they just said it's Egypt and everyone understood at the time what that me wink
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  wink nudge nudge win why we Pharaoh we don't Pharaoh's name if you were a
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  hisory also comping evidence that um that basically it wasn't even Egyptian
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  slaves that built the pyramids it was just people who were paid that was their
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  job they were workers yeah and that you worked in shifts and and you know you
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  might be a farmer half the year and then the year the part of the Year where you
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  couldn't Farm because the Nile was you know at its peak then you went and and
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  then they gave him be yes or or bear
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  with me it was Ancient Aliens yeah right I mean which one's more like explain a
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  lot damn which one is more interesting which one actually I did see a funny
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  comedian that said that like the problem is that you've got two possibilities one
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  is the aliens came down and built the pyramids and the other one is that brown
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  people did it come on which one's more likely yeah yeah can I tell you one
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  other history fact I know it's not about Egypt okay it's about India okay go on
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  parge Mahal yes that would because you know aliens there was meant to be a
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  second one oh so they built they spent a lot of money building the one out of
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  white marble there was there was meant to be another identical one facing it
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  made out of black marble oh that'd be cool and it was meant to be two except I
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  think he bankrupted out ofing the first one got bored well then you know what
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  I'm so glad that they did them one at a time because if that was done today they
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  would have laid two foundations and we would have had two half finished buildings
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  yeah yeah and still bankrupt
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  country anyway history who needs it yeah let's let's talk about fun stuff
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  history what do you guys know about this Sony PlayStation handheld that's uh oh
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  been announced this week so my understanding is that it it only
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  functions if you have a PS5 yes and it's
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  like a it's basically a PlayStation 5 controller cut in half with an iPad
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  shoved in the middle yes that's linked to your existing that sounds pretty good
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  I'll be honest well here it does sound pretty good but you know what sounds
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  better than that if they released a portable PlayStation 5 that was cheaper
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  than buying a PlayStation 5 sure that I could go and get just to play my
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  PlayStation exclusives on yeah I I reckon if if they had if they had a Xbox
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  handheld and a PlayStation handheld that were decent enough and priced decently
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  enough i' probably [ __ ] off the fullsize consoles I'll just have a rack with a
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  bunch of handhelds well the thing with this right so this this it has the stuff
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  has to run on your your PlayStation 5 that you've have hooked up at home it'll
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  stream the video to it but which is kind of like oh Xbox Cloud but just not as
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  useful Xbox Cloud I can play behind I don't need my Xbox doing anything you
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  don't even need Xbox I guess technically anymore if you're going to use oh so
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  you're saying the actual PlayStation is is literally running correct it runs the
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  game on your PlayStation and it streams the video to it that's my understanding
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  of it that's Le that's even less interesting it's getting less and less
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  interesting all hon now that I've said that did they even confirm if it can
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  work over the Internet or is this just work in your house in which case it's
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  even more useless correct yeah wow yeah I'm not so handheld device PR Q right
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  now will allow play to stream games to the screen sense games won't run natively on
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  the device meaning you'll need to install them on a PS5 and have good
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  Wi-Fi connectivity to stream them within your house yeah okay so playing another
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  room is the benefit of this maybe yeah Ian if work the internet it'd still be
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  kind of useful maybe but see but but if it says that having that installed on
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  your console I defeats the purpose when I think of things like this I think this
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  would be useful to me if I was traveling right so maybe on a plane that' be fun
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  or if I was in a hotel neither of those situations am I going to have good Wi-Fi
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  I'm I might have some but it's not going to be good so I I
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  don't know this what with my like handheld a Neo thing I've got it's
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  basically running window 11 so I've I need handh PC essentially right yeah so
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  I I stream Xbox on the cloud to the game I don't stream I install the games so
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  the games are installed on there but it needs a connection to the internet to go
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  hey you've got an account but it's not so oh but it doesn't need it doesn't
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  need a good enough connection to it's just hey do you have an account yes no
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  so I don't need to worry about having good Wi-Fi just some Wi-Fi to play it so
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  like a steam deck you actually install them on there right yeah yeah like less
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  useful a license yeah yeah so yeah Sony's just behind the ball on streaming
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  at the moment like Microsoft is preparing for nvidia's already got their stuff I feel
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  like each of them has like these weird things that they just can't get right
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  like like Xbox is just not doing any VR stuff for some reason
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  other than that they're doing buy into that Sony's got the great VR stuff and
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  now this handheld thing just seems silly and then Nintendo is like oh you've got
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  kind of the sort of the best of both walls but the graphics in that aren't as
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  good except all the cloud stuff is garbage like Cloud saves that kind of
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  stuff is just super clunky on the on the switch like why have they fixed it that
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  you can transfer your your yeah cuz I remember when it first came out you
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  couldn't transfer your safe games you can manually upload them if you're
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  paying for the for the switch online service but it's not autom I like about
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  the the Xbox it just automatically does it there's no reason they couldn't do
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  that literally everything else does it it's just I don't know Nintendo just
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  can't get that stuff right but they've all got like flaws for some
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  reason the VR I I'd be pretty interesting in checking out this uh
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  stranger things VR game that's coming out except it's for meta it's not even
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  for PlayStation so mat oh yeah we all miss out the
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  metaverse you No I gave it away oh all right I I I I
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  just played poker and wanted to smoke so fair
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  enough but meta dying off isn't it they're more well the mete certainly
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  didn't take off the way they wanted I think and then John car got the shits
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  and left so yeah I think they're more focusing on AI now than yeah that never
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  going to work we got some AI news
• 24:25
  actually yes me laugh a lawyer is in big
• 24:29
  trouble now because he uh he he was hired by a client who's suing an airline
• 24:35
  and he was putting together a you know I guess a brief or whatever you call it
• 24:39
  the kind of initial paperwork or whatever yeah and he asked chat GPT to
• 24:45
  find a bunch of Prior cases which it did and then he said are these real and chat
• 24:52
  gbd said of course yeah they're not as far as I know he didn't bother to check
• 24:56
  he just asked chat gbd submitted judge is now like these don't exist and
• 25:02
  he's in real [ __ ] CU that's he could to me that's like
• 25:07
  getting close to you're losing your license to practice because you're
• 25:10
  wasting everyone's time and his client could probably sue him for male pract
• 25:14
  for for you know poor representation or whatever now not doing your job like I'm
• 25:18
  paying you to do this and you just went to J chat GP and went hey yes is this a
• 25:22
  thing so let this be a lesson and then other people are saying
• 25:26
  like what happens so GPT just made all this [ __ ] up mhm uh and we've now got
• 25:32
  people using chat GPT to make up stuff on the internet that's posting articles
• 25:36
  and stuff on the internet and then they're training it on the internet so
• 25:41
  like what point is are we just gonna everything's just going to be lies uh
• 25:46
  already right now is that point um because apparently it will just please
• 25:51
  you it'll just tell you what you want to hear um because I I was listening to
• 25:55
  some talk about they wanted they wanted they were doing some academic thing and
• 26:00
  they were like give me such and such an argument and then site some sources to
• 26:04
  back that up and they weren't like write my essay for me but they were like just
• 26:08
  just do the the the the wireframe of it I'll write it but they made up sources
• 26:13
  they were like this book by this publisher by this person from this year
• 26:17
  doesn't exist doesn't exist but it's so funny CU I've I've started using chat
• 26:21
  gbt when I do creative work simply because I can just put in a whole bunch
• 26:26
  of brain vomit and then I go summarize that for me and it will and it's very
• 26:31
  very good at organizing random thoughts so I use it for that but at one point it
• 26:35
  said to me great idea I'm really excited to read this and I wrote back are you
• 26:40
  excited and it's like well no because I am a machine I don't get excited I'm
• 26:45
  like well they say that like just don't don't patronize me also Dan we're not
• 26:49
  friends okay that's right yeah don't get the wrong idea about this yeah yeah oh I
• 26:56
  know when not friends when I asked him to nut out Nile the ball butcher it just
• 26:59
  [ __ ] really let let me have it not only did it say I won't write that
• 27:04
  because it's against my code of conduct it really judged me bad person for
• 27:09
  asking me to do it yeah yeah yeah so
• 27:12
  anyway let this be a lesson uh L is just be careful with ch I hear on a podcast
• 27:18
  somebody said you can um work around it if you give it Source material and you
• 27:24
  say please put together some quotes from the material I've given you that support
• 27:29
  this thesis it will do that quite nicely so you say here's here's a couple of
• 27:34
  documents uh I'm trying to make a case that this is something like say it's for
• 27:38
  a legal case can you find some quotes and some citations in the documents I
• 27:43
  gave you it will do that okay but I have a question is this just going to lead to
• 27:47
  stupid people probably oh yeah because you know even though you're saying take
• 27:53
  it from here you're not going into that and learning that yourself you're just
• 27:57
  getting that to SP it out for you KN well I don't know when when I use
• 28:03
  when I use it for my creative stuff I have to stop it from trying to be
• 28:07
  creative like it'll go oh what about this I'm like no no no please don't
• 28:10
  generate ideas for me I'll do that I'm just I want you to help me like format
• 28:16
  my arguments well this is what the big thing for the rer block the rer strike
• 28:21
  at the moment is it's going we don't want oh my God you just nailed that why
• 28:25
  aren't they calling this Rider's block
• 28:31
  Riders block 2023 and they're not they they're not saying not to use it but that shouldn't
• 28:38
  be replacing people which is what will happen because well they worried about
• 28:42
  like CU you can you can ask somebody for a spec script right my this is my
• 28:47
  understanding of it I'm not obviously I'm not a film film author writer um but
• 28:52
  you can pay somebody to write a kind of a spec script and you don't really pay
• 28:56
  as much for that as you would to have them write like you know a full-on it's
• 29:00
  not a full-on request for you to write the screenplay or whatever right so you
• 29:04
  can just kind of say give us a kind of a spec kind of thing you could then get a
• 29:08
  bunch of writers to do that give them all the chat GPT and then have it spit
• 29:13
  out an actual script and then you just saved yourself a bunch of money if you're a
• 29:17
  studio now that is only marginally different from what happens now anyway
• 29:22
  because when I watch movies now I swear they were written by chat G PT that had
• 29:26
  just been told take existing tropes from all the popular movies right now and
• 29:32
  just write me the most generic script you can um but yes as you pointed out
• 29:36
  the difference is some dude's getting paid to do that you know he's being
• 29:40
  asked to be as uncreative as possible but he's he's still look I'm still start
• 29:46
  we need to start having the world needs to start having a conversation we're
• 29:49
  getting to the point where part of the population should just be able to not
• 29:53
  work and do anything how do we that we killed so that the rest of us
• 29:59
  could live large I mean but you look at like a lot
• 30:03
  of future a future sort of things and everyone's together and like even like
• 30:09
  Star Trek there's the economics in that like you work but you don't y worry
• 30:14
  about money so you want anything you have it but then why does that woman
• 30:18
  live in a trailer in Picard as one any whatever doesn't
• 30:22
  matter get out of the city Matt just to get out of the right race um yeah yeah
• 30:28
  transition to I just don't have to do anything anymore and I get to do
• 30:31
  whatever I want yeah not worry about money I was as a rant I was watching
• 30:36
  from a composer the other day about how already in the industry most producers
• 30:41
  and directors will ask you you familiar with the work of Han simmer we're kind
• 30:44
  of looking for that and it's like yeah yeah right bet you are yeah and it's
• 30:48
  basically everybody just needs to know how to do that now except not anymore
• 30:52
  cuz they won't need us to do that anymore they can just give it a give it
• 30:55
  all his existing scores this hard and Zimmer yeah yeah make sure it's
• 31:00
  different enough that I can't be sued but that's there's something cool in
• 31:05
  there not that not what you've just described but what if always said to
• 31:09
  chat gbt give us a brand new The Beatles album you know what I mean like sure
• 31:15
  what would the Beatles write if they were still around today and producing
• 31:18
  One More album there's something awesome about that because it would it would be
• 31:23
  so inspired by The Beatles you know beyond any human capacity to be inspire
• 31:29
  um but terrifying at the same time but then
• 31:31
  again uh what that redheaded twe from
• 31:36
  England that wins all the Grammys uh Ed
• 31:39
  Sheran Ed Sheran see he knew um just got
• 31:43
  sued by the estate of Marvin Gay and and one right because now here's the thing
• 31:50
  he did steal that song that song is verbatim Marvin Gay but he did it on
• 31:55
  purpose because he was writing a 70s Style Soul ballad and if you want to
• 31:59
  write a 70 Soul ballad you use the same musical tropes that Marvin G was using
• 32:04
  changed it enough that to meet the requirements yeah that's the legal
• 32:09
  requirements correct because without copyright law it used to just be that
• 32:15
  songs were songs and once you'd written one anyone could sing it change the
• 32:19
  words change the tempo whatever but now we have specific laws that says you're
• 32:25
  allowed to change this you're not allowed to change their children and
• 32:27
  their [ __ ] children yeah that's forever in yeah exactly right yeah not
• 32:31
  how it was supposed to work yeah never like the fact that you start selling it
• 32:35
  like that and yeah it ended on a somewhat positive
• 32:41
  note which was that that honestly the best thing you can do now is don't try
• 32:44
  and sound like H Zimmer just do what you do there are there will be an audience
• 32:49
  for it and either you'll get hired to do some work and you'll be happy or you
• 32:54
  won't and it's you wouldn't have been happy happy anyway yeah cuz
• 32:58
  you knowed the soundtrack like everybody else get asked to do right exactly yeah
• 33:05
  uh yeah look while we're on movies Matt you've just finished a movie I did I
• 33:10
  literally just watched movie know about before this I watched if we're talking
• 33:15
  about cell 35 I watched this as well cell 35 I don't know what that is ah oh
• 33:20
  oh in the spreadsheet that we're all looking at yeah I'm looking C 35 what
• 33:25
  movie is that no that okay yes I just watched Evil Dead rise yeah you watched
• 33:30
  it as well yeah I did yeah yeah I hated how is it did you did you really okay I
• 33:34
  hated it and this is exactly what I'm talking about about movies that look
• 33:39
  like chat GPT wrote them this is so intent on making you think this is an
• 33:45
  evil dead movie by just employing every Trope from every Evil Dead movie but for
• 33:49
  me it just didn't work I liked it but I
• 33:55
  don't and and yeah I know you mean it had a lot of callbacks a lot of lines
• 34:00
  stolen you know the shotgun and the chainsaw show up and uh Bruce Campbell's
• 34:05
  vo is in it and it's it's got all the bits and pieces and I liked it except it
• 34:09
  doesn't have any any of the humor at all no is it [ __ ] humorist tonally it's
• 34:15
  completely wrong because the whole thing about evil the previous one was too to
• 34:19
  be fair but it was more you in the remake the Evil Dead correct but at
• 34:24
  least more fun yeah it was fun this is very dire and the thing about this
• 34:30
  that I really didn't like it was just so on the nose it's like they were trying
• 34:34
  so hard to make this dark and Gothic right from the start and the whole point
• 34:38
  of the Evil Dead is that they're in Paradise they're in a cabin in the woods
• 34:42
  that Trope has become scary because of the evil dead but the point was it was
• 34:47
  young people having a good time out in the woods and evil [ __ ] happens this was
• 34:53
  in a haunted [ __ ] semi-abandoned
• 34:56
  yeah complex peeling wallpaper lights barely work I don't know I I didn't I
• 35:03
  couldn't I couldn't buy into this yeah okay oh I mean I I liked it I'm glad you
• 35:07
  did because I was I was very aware that maybe on a different day or in a better
• 35:11
  mood I might have just gone along with it but I just I could see the The
• 35:15
  Producers standing over the filmmaker's shoulders going make it more evil Daddy
• 35:20
  yeah I mean it's listeners this is not unless you know that you like evil dead
• 35:25
  and in particular unless you know you liked the remake of Evil Dead even maybe
• 35:31
  just be sure you want to watch this cuz it's very fullon like
• 35:36
  very they lean into the violence it's still different to The Originals yeah
• 35:42
  well there's no comedy in this at all no just misery just a just miserable from
• 35:48
  the beginning it's dead serious like I like the comedy stuff yeah me too it's
• 35:53
  the most it's also the most 2023 movie ever because it's like it's so it's so
• 35:58
  woke on purpose you know it's like the girl is very androgynous looks like a
• 36:03
  Boy the boy is very androgynous looks like a girl you know it's like it's just
• 36:07
  so it's so 23 yeah I know what you mean yeah actually one of the um the actor
• 36:12
  that plays the boy is trans well there you go I mean not that that matters but
• 36:17
  no no no but it's just yeah it's just very here and now it's very off time and
• 36:23
  he Australian yeah that's right it's got
• 36:26
  asog from uh uh Vikings in it who I don't like just because I don't like a
• 36:33
  character in Vikings and I can't help tot [ __ ] in Vikings yeah because ltha
• 36:36
  was way better she replaced ltha yeah exactly ragar ragar you fool yeah what
• 36:42
  are you doing mate I still love in that first season of Vikings it might even be
• 36:46
  in the first episode when um is it athl red the priest the the monk is um he's
• 36:53
  been kidnapped essentially by the Vikings by Ragnar and his wife
• 36:58
  yeah yeah Tak him back to to Norway and um he's being forced to live in their
• 37:03
  house and and they're [ __ ] in like the other side of this one room house
• 37:07
  and then they and he's like trying to ignore them and then at one point they
• 37:10
  stop and he comes over and he's like my wife wants to know if you want to get in
• 37:14
  on this and he's like no no thanks we
• 37:19
  don't do that suit yourself yeah I'm just on Google at the moment looking at
• 37:24
  like reviews of Evil Dead rise and pretty matching what you guys said like
• 37:29
  the difference like five five stars and one star they're sort of equal so you
• 37:35
  either love it or you don't I liked it but I can see where Dan's coming from
• 37:40
  and I also noted that the tone is very different yeah and I I was the same and
• 37:46
  I was watching it thinking I hope when Matt watches this he can buy into it
• 37:51
  because then he would really enjoy it in a way that I can't no I did it's got
• 37:55
  some good stuff I mean the shots through the PE whole that that was all very cool
• 37:59
  like it's got cool some cool stuff like that in it it's got also actually there
• 38:03
  some some shots it's like a joke gag shot but it reminded me of dark city
• 38:08
  when the the sister puts a hand into the bathtub at one point oh yeah and there
• 38:12
  kind of a yeah there's some neat NE neat stuff like that that I like that kind of
• 38:17
  stuff when you said peephole I don't know why but I just thought of that
• 38:20
  quote you told us before we
• 38:25
  started mhm h but audience you'll never know you never
• 38:32
  know um yeah speaking of the audience we got some feedback on uh our conversation
• 38:38
  last week Luke Craig's written in oh about why you might want to live in the
• 38:43
  woods and prep for disaster yeah he's he's I mean he's told us we Chang
• 38:49
  podcast to multiple sheep orgasm oh yeah yeah yeah uh because you know if
• 38:56
  if if we're not bothered by of 2030 then something's wrong with us yep got to be
• 39:01
  worried about it he followed up and said he was just joking yes oh I'm not
• 39:05
  worried about it because I I'm on I'm on their side I'm I'm I'm actively working
• 39:08
  towards it right right what what is your goal then Dan if I may ask evilness Matt
• 39:15
  just being evil yeah just being evil and what's the idea about just making it
• 39:20
  very the more we tell you about it the
• 39:24
  less you'll believe it right if we make it sound secretive everyone will know
• 39:30
  it's something going on I've got Tom Delong writing movies
• 39:36
  and comic books about it at this point that's right he's in on it he is anyway Craig
• 39:42
  said uh no he's he's just having fun out in the woods he's not trying to get away
• 39:46
  from the yeah the government specifically I mean just get away from
• 39:50
  it just get away from everyone probably government included but not exclusively
• 39:54
  from the government he's got enough problems on his hands with the go so
• 39:58
  that's right but we sort of mentioned it at a good time cuz he's just released
• 40:02
  another video on his YouTube channel yes that's true okay yeah check that out
• 40:06
  bush bush bush H I can't speak Bushra
• 40:10
  Bush why can I not say Bush CRA I don't know but I'm really glad you
• 40:16
  can't same you're welcome Craig finish the name of the Channel
• 40:22
  please uh Bushcraft camping and Adventures yes check him out well that
• 40:29
  sounds excellent yeah know his Channel's good it's good content this one might
• 40:33
  have a yahi not promising anything but find out oh and another listener mclunky
• 40:38
  wrote in this week and sent me uh this the the the Esquire interview with uh
• 40:45
  Harrison Ford that I've put in here where it's got It's actually quite a
• 40:49
  good little interview with Harrison Ford talking about his career and they ask
• 40:52
  him a bunch of interesting questions but one of them in particular is about um
• 40:58
  it's not phrase as a question they just said at the time Blade Runner came out
• 41:02
  Ridley Scott was telling everybody decad was a replicant and you said he wasn't
• 41:07
  and then Harrison Ford says well I knew he Ridley Scott said that he was and I
• 41:13
  wanted to push back on that because I thought a replicant would deny or
• 41:17
  believe that they were human so that's why so using character sure he said he
• 41:23
  knew but but the other thing is too it's it's still ambiguous in the movie so
• 41:27
  like this none of this doesn't bother me because I quite like that it's ambiguous
• 41:31
  and yes it's heavily implied especially in the director's cut that he's a
• 41:35
  replicant yeah but they don't say in the film so I don't care what ridy Scott
• 41:39
  says and I don't care what Harron Ford says it's interesting but it's not in
• 41:42
  the film so it's intentionally ambiguous
• 41:45
  yes yes and also the the book also that
• 41:50
  it's based The Source material also kind of weighs in on that if you care enough
• 41:55
  to go back and look at that and also I think if Ridley says he's definitely a
• 42:02
  replicant and Harrison Ford had come out of the time and went yeah he's
• 42:06
  definitely a replicant then that's just the [ __ ] end of it the fact the fact
• 42:10
  that they disagree the director and the actor that played him disagreed gave us
• 42:14
  40 Years of debate and then you watch the movie and you go well I don't know
• 42:18
  for sure yeah I mean you can interpret Edward Jones almost leaving a little uh
• 42:24
  yeah little unicorn unicorn outside his door as proof I mean that's a pretty big
• 42:29
  but it's not definitive but yeah he doesn't knock on the door and go hey
• 42:33
  replicant by the way you're a replicant yeah we all are we all we're all
• 42:40
  replicants see you later it's not such thing as a [Laughter]
• 42:46
  human I think I don't know if it's this article or another interview that he's
• 42:50
  done orally but he was talking about um D Destiny as well oh yeah and about how
• 42:56
  um there's rting scenes and he was basically telling the stunk guys like
• 43:00
  leave me alone I'm old like just let he doesn't want it to be old jokes but he
• 43:03
  wants it to be clear like I'm an old man oh right so don't have some cool
• 43:07
  backflip stuff going on and and then it just cut back to him annoying yeah yeah
• 43:13
  it's like yeah I'm old the character's old let's not be silly I love I love
• 43:18
  that he's still doing all his interviews and I somebody asked him recently like
• 43:22
  oh who would win in a fight between Han Solo and Indiana Jones and he was like
• 43:26
  I'm not going to end answer that CU that's a [ __ ] stupid
• 43:30
  question even his his manner in there like he just doesn't give a [ __ ] like
• 43:36
  he's never given a [ __ ] has he yeah he's
• 43:39
  just legit like he just he he he actually there was an interview I read
• 43:45
  recently about this where you know he was he moved to Hollywood he wanted to
• 43:48
  be an actor but he was like well that's quite hard and he's seeing all of his
• 43:53
  friends and people that he meets giving up and going home he's like I'm not
• 43:56
  going to do that I'm going to become a carpenter and then I'll just be a
• 44:00
  [ __ ] Carpenter if it doesn't work in Hollywood and you know Hollywood Life
• 44:05
  yeah have you heard the rumor about his carpentry he'd build like hot tubs and
• 44:10
  stuff with like little secret compartments for people to hide their
• 44:12
  drugs in so like the flip up he was the
• 44:16
  cool Carpenter he was in through yeah was he yeah he was a cool dude and I
• 44:22
  think he was literally fixing George Lucas's door when he was first right
• 44:28
  yeah they were like can can you come and stand in cuz I think he worked with them
• 44:32
  on American Graffiti yes and then he was just doing work and then George was oh
• 44:38
  hey he wanted to just read with the other actors because somebody couldn't
• 44:42
  make it or whatever and then they were like hang on a minut I mean he'd had
• 44:44
  some good roles and he he'd been in Apocalypse Now for Francis
• 44:48
  cop best friend that's what I meant yeah and he has some of the best lines in
• 44:53
  that entire movie in the one scene that he's in um and also remember how [ __ ]
• 44:58
  handsome he was like you can't just be that handsome and not have people go do
• 45:02
  you want to be in a movie yeah if just hanging around these dire yeah yeah just
• 45:08
  ask Carrie Fisher how handsome he was that's right um speaking of his relationships
• 45:14
  though he rocked up to the KH premiere of um this with kalista flart I was like
• 45:19
  oh yeah he married Ali MCB i' forgotten about that and they didn't sit them next
• 45:25
  to each other they got to their and he to
• 45:30
  my move people around um but then he got a five minute standing ovation after the
• 45:36
  movie which is which is normal for KH though but I did read things that five
• 45:40
  minutes wasn't very long yeah I was about yeah sometimes they they just
• 45:44
  stand there for 20 minutes um I've heard this as awful um yeah me too which makes
• 45:50
  me either why not want to wait ages till I see it or see it as soon as I can to
• 45:55
  put myself out of misery yeah it's a hard thing and this is the
• 45:59
  thing you should never go off exactly what other people say because just
• 46:02
  because other people say it's doesn't mean you're not going to like it yeah
• 46:06
  variety came out with the the headline Hollywood please stop daging actors um
• 46:13
  and Harris in response to this and Harrison Ford came out and went this is
• 46:16
  not like some photoshop thing they've got footage of me when I was that age
• 46:21
  and they literally just cropped my face out so shut up that is me young yeah
• 46:27
  yeah and I it depends I don't know from what I've seen it's I think it's a bit
• 46:31
  different to the normal daging this is going to be time travel so what are you
• 46:36
  meant to do well we'll see we'll see yeah like he's meant to be in the past
• 46:40
  how is he don't be aging when he's in the past I don't think I'm going to be
• 46:43
  going to the movies to see this I haven't even seen Guardians 3 yet I'm
• 46:45
  not going to go see neither have I I quite enjoyed Guardians 3 yeah I'm sure
• 46:50
  I'm sure I'll enjoy it too I just haven't gotten around to it what when
• 46:53
  they we became the people we had kids and we've become those people Dan yeah yeah that's
• 46:59
  right open World Indiana Jones game that I literally saw a trailer for five years
• 47:05
  ago where is that oh I'm almost got canell no no no it's still in the work
• 47:12
  is it though someone's actively working on it right now um new Indiana Jones
• 47:17
  game everything we know so far you've been drinking out of a Blade Runner Cup
• 47:21
  this whole time talking about Blade Runner no mention of it yeah sorry got
• 47:25
  my glass still in the very very early stages of the they're not doing it the
• 47:31
  couple is a replicant that's not real whiskey it's it's Indiana Jones is one
• 47:36
  of the many upcoming Bethesda games it's not though is it but yeah very very
• 47:41
  early stages so we're probably looking 2026 oh at least mate early stages of a
• 47:47
  massive open World um being done by guys who did
• 47:53
  Wolfenstein oh yeah which Wolfenstein the the New Order ones New Colossus they
• 47:59
  were good I enjoyed those they weren't open world though no they were not
• 48:03
  closed first person shooters which but yeah Indiana Jones canot be a first
• 48:06
  person shoer just first
• 48:12
  person fbws that famous sub genre um I watched
• 48:18
  the [ __ ] two and a half hours worth of disco elesium explainer I didn't I
• 48:22
  just sent it to you and I thought he'll tell me no I took it I took one for the team um
• 48:27
  I can sum this up in under a minute if you guys want to know I would love to
• 48:31
  know so this is about all the controversy that they've got at the
• 48:33
  studio with people Le who got sacked who didn't get sacked and stormed out who
• 48:37
  owns rights who stole right pry good journalism like they literally went and
• 48:42
  talked to all these [ __ ] people like they literally went to Estonia watched
• 48:47
  the trial and then went interviewed everyone nice um I hope they get some
• 48:53
  money back out of this to make up like
• 48:56
  an expensive Endeavor on I think the creative team who came up with the idea
• 49:03
  for disco alium and wrote the story and did the artwork are exceptional
• 49:08
  creatives they are terrible business people yeah and they are terrible people
• 49:14
  managers MH so while it was just a
• 49:19
  collective of artists coming up with cool ideas it worked very well when they
• 49:25
  had to become a business they essentially got on real bus people
• 49:29
  who made real bus decisions but the creatives didn't understand that if you
• 49:35
  going to get a million dollars off a venture capitalist they want lots of
• 49:39
  money back sure yes they don't just want a million dollars back yeah and they
• 49:43
  want control over the IP they want to be able to insist you add things that you
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  might not have otherwise added to make it more commercial etc etc
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  etc um so that was the first problem was that these creative people used to just
• 49:59
  living in a basement of money correct and then they
• 50:04
  got the shits now also this that's the first problem the second problem is that
• 50:08
  it went from their little creative
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  Collective to a software studio with coders and developers and all of these
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  people who are just doing a 9 to-5 job who aren't you know sweating their blood
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  and tears and political ideologies into it
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  this is a job and uh By the time these people got on the the creatives are like
• 50:32
  no no we think of the ideas and then you just work around the clock to make them
• 50:35
  happen and they're like n dude what you're describing is just a really
• 50:40
  shitty boss you know um and So eventually it got to the point where
• 50:47
  these creatives just being there were creating this toxic environment and both
• 50:52
  the employees and the owners of the company were like you guys need to
• 50:56
  either Branch off and do your own thing like start working on a sequel or
• 50:59
  something like that or just leave the company and let us release the game yeah
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  because all you're doing coming in coming up with new ideas making people
• 51:08
  change things and stuff you actually don't have the authority to do that
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  anymore because we're in charge now because we bought the idea off you and
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  um all you're doing is making everyone miserable right yeah so I can see it
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  from both sides but unfortunately I think the artists are are wrong right
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  I've I've dealt with these kind of artists all the time working both sides
• 51:30
  of the cre they thought they were just getting like money and still got to do
• 51:35
  whatever they want yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because at one point too the part
• 51:39
  of the lawsuit was that they demanded to see like work that the company were
• 51:45
  doing after they had already left and they were like no you were completely
• 51:52
  privy to that information while you were here and you never asked to see it
• 51:56
  because you didn't want to do any of the business side of it all you wanted to do
• 51:59
  was be creative and come up with cool ideas and while that was your job that
• 52:05
  was fine and now that you're off starting up your new company trying to
• 52:10
  make new games we're not just going to let you become our biggest rival and
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  then give you all our kind of right corporate assets at the same
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  time so colossal misunderstanding on their part and a lesson learned
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  hopefully um but the thing is if um if there is a disco elium 2 it will be
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  released by the rights holders which is the people who made the game not the
• 52:32
  people who created the game yeah For Better or For Worse um but those people
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  are free to create a holy new game if they if they so desire all right we'll
• 52:44
  wait and see weit see I I'd be surprised if they get anything off the ground
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  though so would I yeah sounds like well I don't know maybe maybe they'd have to
• 52:53
  prove they've learned now right because people G think twice about it probably
• 52:57
  oh definitely or some [ __ ] billionaire who just love disco elium
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  might just becoming like an angel investor you know what I mean and just
• 53:05
  say here's the money go do it look no I I think even with that even if they to
• 53:09
  get that I think they still need to bring someone on who can actually keep
• 53:12
  it on track and I I I think that's the problem that they'll have there was this
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  um a French film director in the 60s called hry George clo who was the most
• 53:23
  popular he he was like cubric ay movies but that made money right so everyone
• 53:29
  went to see him and a studio at one point said just to get you on board we
• 53:33
  want the next one blank check and no deadline so just whatever you want to
• 53:38
  spend we'll just keep giving you the money and however long you want to spend
• 53:42
  on it oh and surprise the [ __ ] prize there was never a movie because he just
• 53:48
  kept shooting and shooting and shooting and then he'd have a new idea okay this
• 53:52
  actor's out a new actor's in we'll consider all of that just to be test
• 53:55
  footage right and you know and it just it just never never ended yeah yeah you
• 54:02
  need people to keep creative people on track yeah here the end point yeah or
• 54:08
  you who just happens to do both yeah like that does exist but yes yes like
• 54:15
  how dare I say it a George Lucas sure yeah who I oh that was the other thing
• 54:20
  they asked Harrison Ford was who's the better cook um George or stei Spielberg
• 54:26
  or James Mangold oh and he said um he said Steven Spielberg's Dad or Mom was a
• 54:33
  was a was a chef so he might be all right James mangal's good cookie said
• 54:37
  George runs on cheeseburgers and fries
• 54:39
  so not him right I believe that yeah
• 54:44
  salad many Reas salad more recently oh yeah seen eating salad in a food court
• 54:50
  yeah for some reason in Australia I still reckon sprinkled with money on top
• 54:55
  yeah look we've talked about um bad
• 55:00
  movies in uh stal of Destiny potentially good movies apparently that are coming
• 55:05
  out we talked last week Luke about how I think the cinematographer or something
• 55:10
  on the flash said this movie so good you'll forget what Ezra Miller did
• 55:15
  you'll forget about his crime ter doubling down on that and then cuz
• 55:20
  someone that he was ask an interview oh do you think you'd replace Ezra Miller
• 55:24
  in a sequel and then the director said no no they're too good Ezra is too good
• 55:29
  in this movie and it's like hang on a minute guys stop it he assaulted people
• 55:35
  he broke into people's homes he didn't kidnap he was just he
• 55:41
  questioned about an underage girl away from her family if that's not
• 55:46
  kidnapping I don't I can't wait to see this movie I know I got to find a
• 55:51
  babysitter when this comes out like I'm not waiting around for starters I didn't
• 55:55
  realize until you broke at last week well we were we going to say that
• 56:00
  sorry I shouldn't yeah yeah that's out yeah it was out but we said it in the
• 56:05
  Afterparty it's not out oh on I'll make a note of this 57 we
• 56:10
  can we can beep it it's just I mean they they've come out and
• 56:15
  said it so I am so happy about that because here's the thing that is such a
• 56:20
  good example of good fan service sure
• 56:24
  right like bad service bad fan service is Disney now take their casting
• 56:30
  suggestions from the internet you know what I mean oh everyone wants Toano to
• 56:34
  be played by um Rosario Dawson Rosario Dawson okay fine we'll do that that's
• 56:39
  terrible this going we all know see see now I can't talk about it
• 56:45
  without a spoiler I'm sorry I'll beep all of this
• 56:49
  all right um in then and didn't get to so here you
• 56:55
  go anyway I'm sorry this this movie must be amazing yeah
• 57:01
  well it just seems like such an odd thing to say that they must really
• 57:05
  believe it because who the [ __ ] is gonna who who the [ __ ] comes out and says no
• 57:09
  no I know I know Isa did some horrible things but you haven't seen the movie
• 57:15
  yet this comic book movie people didn't even say that about pansy like people
• 57:21
  went yeah like people just said like palansky is a
• 57:25
  rapist and other people went yeah I'm just not going to think about that and
• 57:30
  like these films are still we Awards
• 57:33
  nobody no one said CH is so good that it doesn't matter who he raped yeah yeah
• 57:40
  you go it's just yeah no it's fine we'll let him off is so good that he's he's
• 57:44
  paid his Penance now yeah you can get back in Jack Nicholson's pool anytime
• 57:48
  you want mate it's weird that they're they're talking about them though like
• 57:53
  it's and and to go so far as to say no he's great at it and all this instead of
• 57:58
  just what I thought they'd be doing like going we've got to release the movie
• 58:01
  because there too much so we'll we'll just try and play it down and say we're
• 58:06
  just getting him help and leave it at that I just think it's yeah super odd
• 58:10
  like extreme position to to all be coming out with like super weird to be
• 58:16
  like no no no obviously don't agree with any of that stuff yeah but he see the
• 58:22
  movie guys cuz that's the thing we had tipped this 100% this movie will not
• 58:26
  come out when all this St up we're like well they got to throw this in the bin
• 58:29
  cuz he just kept he it was a crime spree worse and worse
• 58:35
  and they just relas and then attack someone out couldn't find Ezra Miller
• 58:41
  anywhere like and then the studio were like guys we can't not release this
• 58:47
  movie it's so [ __ ] good have you seen the movie yeah when you see it you'll
• 58:52
  know why we turned to Blind eyed to all of this when the judge sees this he'll
• 58:55
  drop the charges don't worry about it when the parents of that missing girl watch
• 59:01
  this yeah uh look before we go to the after party I just want to tip also some
• 59:05
  good TV that I watched um and I watched on Netflix this week uh there's one
• 59:11
  episode I don't know why there's not more I assume there's more coming it's
• 59:14
  called Frankenstein's monsters monster Frankenstein oh yeah okay I had
• 59:19
  heard just before this is written by and
• 59:23
  starring David Harbor right MH and if I'm giving you the elevator pitch this
• 59:28
  is the American GTH mangi okay so David
• 59:32
  Harbor plays himself investigating his
• 59:36
  father who was an actor right um and made a Frankenstein TV show back in the
• 59:43
  70s and he is piecing together bits of this lost show and also speaking to
• 59:49
  people who were involved in it back in the day right um but he the way that he
• 59:54
  portrays the father is essentially a caricature of Aon Wells they even do the
• 1:00:00
  pmer song commercial except it's for such and such roast beef but he's in the
• 1:00:05
  white suit and he's sitting there just gorging himself on this beef before they
• 1:00:09
  start rolling camera it is hilarious all right I have to watch this and the
• 1:00:14
  running gag is no one knows what to call because you know everyone calls the
• 1:00:18
  monster Frankenstein like that's 100 Years of 20th Century Cinema has just
• 1:00:23
  made that synonymous and that's part of it so he's like downstairs with
• 1:00:27
  Frankenstein they're like I thought you were Frankenstein he's like look happens
• 1:00:31
  enough that I just go with it now all right I have to watch it it's on
• 1:00:37
  Netflix you said one half hour episode is on Netflix Oh Netflix is warned us
• 1:00:44
  about password sharing same yeah it's warned us too it's happening it's
• 1:00:48
  happening yeah yeah yeah did you see like Prime videos response no you got a
• 1:00:53
  screen use it sure yeah I forget exactly what it was but they were like you're
• 1:00:59
  paying for a screen use your screens essentially what yeah yeah I guess if
• 1:01:04
  you you pay the five screen package it's not like you're getting less money but
• 1:01:08
  uh did you see Blockbuster Video tweeted
• 1:01:12
  and and said uh you know our policy was we didn't care how many people watched
• 1:01:16
  it as long as you brought it back on time yeah [ __ ] I paid a lot of money in late
• 1:01:22
  fees from uh video not block Right video easy though so Prime video
• 1:01:29
  UK they put up on their Instagram like who's watching and so this is response
• 1:01:33
  to Netflix and you how you can set up accounts and so they've got um who's
• 1:01:40
  watching everyone who has our password and a heart that was their response to
• 1:01:44
  Netflix down like yeah because Netflix did it first if Netflix hadn't done this
• 1:01:49
  Prime would be cracking down just as much as anyone else but now they're
• 1:01:52
  going for that that anti Crackdown dollar look think this is a weird thing
• 1:01:56
  like if you're going to cuz with the screens like sometimes if you want 4K
• 1:02:01
  you're paying the higher package which comes with the extra screens you may not
• 1:02:04
  want those extra screens so why am I paying for those extra screens 20s a
• 1:02:08
  month I'm not allowed to use them either way want yeah if you want speaking of a
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:28
  every week um in today's Afterparty I'm going to tell you which of several
• 1:02:34
  accused Hollywood rapists are and are not officially sex criminals yeah so if
• 1:02:40
  you want to be part of that conversation it's all followup too impressive I think
• 1:02:43
  right all followup followup pretty dark game show that's
• 1:02:48
  how we roll yeah does it have a title this segment that you've invented for the
• 1:02:54
  Afterparty yeah not a rapist with a question mark with a question mark yeah
• 1:02:59
  the little upward inflection yeah yeah either it's a question or you're
• 1:03:06
  Australian or both or both in this case yeah yeah that's all for this week thank
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