Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Deon Cole, Derrick Johnson & Louis Carr Talk NAACP Awards, Accountability, Community + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hold up every day. Up we click your ass up
- 0:04Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club finish for y'all.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Done morning everybody in the j n V. Jess hilarious,
- 0:10Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy, we are the Breakfast Club lawl of
- 0:12Speaker 2: Roses here with us as well. We got some special
- 0:14Speaker 2: guest in the villain. Yes, indeed you got the good brother,
- 0:16Speaker 2: Dion Cole.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Welcome back, thank you.
- 0:19Speaker 2: We have Derek Johnson, President of the NAACP, Welcome back brother,
- 0:23Speaker 2: Good morning. And we have the president of b E. T. E.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Lewis Carl Welcome brother. How y'all feeling this morning?
- 0:31Speaker 3: Man? Great?
- 0:31Speaker 4: Great, you're running around for the fifty seventh n Double
- 0:37Speaker 4: A c P Image Awards.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Be et.
- 0:40Speaker 5: Yeah, how did that feel?
- 0:41Speaker 6: It's gonna be great, man, It's gonna be good. We're
- 0:43Speaker 6: gonna be doing that thing, you know, another year, another blessing.
- 0:49Speaker 5: You know, like I'm just here so I don't get fine.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Again. What was so good about?
- 0:59Speaker 7: Bon said, it's funny, He's good. It was a lively show.
- 1:02Speaker 7: And it's important to have some continuity. I mean, we
- 1:05Speaker 7: had Anthony Anderson, what six seven years, we had the
- 1:09Speaker 7: Queen unfortunately din'tet it the next year and Dion to
- 1:11Speaker 7: stepped in and it's been a great show. It.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Congratulations to you, Lewis car Man. You know he can't
- 1:16Speaker 4: ignore the elephant in the room, Sutar guy Scott Mills.
- 1:18Speaker 4: But you know he's no longer the president of BT.
- 1:21Speaker 5: You are now, how does that feel?
- 1:24Speaker 8: It's amazing. Okay, it's been a hell of a journey
- 1:27Speaker 8: and it's a privilege. It's a big job and we're
- 1:31Speaker 8: just trying to take BT to the next era. We
- 1:34Speaker 8: call it the New Era, and it's exciting, but it's
- 1:37Speaker 8: a privilege.
- 1:38Speaker 4: What does modernizing BT actually mean to you? Is it
- 1:42Speaker 4: about platform? Is it about programming? Is it about mindset?
- 1:45Speaker 8: It's about all of that, and it's about community and culture.
- 1:48Speaker 8: I don't think any brand that is serving black people
- 1:50Speaker 8: right now, they have to lean into the community, especially
- 1:54Speaker 8: what's going on in our country right now, whether it's political,
- 1:58Speaker 8: whether it's economic. So we're going to lean into community.
- 2:01Speaker 8: And we were built on culture at the end of
- 2:03Speaker 8: the day, so we're going to be one of the
- 2:06Speaker 8: drivers of culture and holding it up and continue. And
- 2:09Speaker 8: that's why we are in partnership with the NAACP and
- 2:12Speaker 8: my homeboy Dion Cole. This is my homeboy, so it's
- 2:16Speaker 8: a real privilege to me.
- 2:17Speaker 2: What's your first initiative besides this? Of course, what's the
- 2:19Speaker 2: first initiative that BET wants to do with you being
- 2:22Speaker 2: the new president?
- 2:23Speaker 8: My first initiative is re establishing BT is the brand
- 2:27Speaker 8: that people are proud of. So the first thing I've
- 2:31Speaker 8: done is we have an internal slogan that may go
- 2:34Speaker 8: publics and so I'm gonna say it right now. BT
- 2:37Speaker 8: is something you can believe in. We really want people
- 2:40Speaker 8: to sort of gravitate and understand that they do have
- 2:44Speaker 8: some ownership in this, They do have some responsibility in
- 2:47Speaker 8: this because we serve the culture and we serve our community.
- 2:49Speaker 2: What do you think that was lost?
- 2:51Speaker 3: If you do?
- 2:51Speaker 2: You know, I remember as a kid, you know, I
- 2:53Speaker 2: think everybody would come on from school, You're turning on BT,
- 2:56Speaker 2: and not just for one O six and Parking O shows,
- 2:58Speaker 2: but there's so many shows around the realm that people
- 3:01Speaker 2: would love about BT. And I think we lost that
- 3:03Speaker 2: a little bit. It didn't become ours anymore. So what
- 3:05Speaker 2: what do you think the reason is that we got
- 3:09Speaker 2: away from that?
- 3:10Speaker 8: I think technology. I think there was a disruption in technology.
- 3:13Speaker 8: You know, we were primarily a cable brand at that
- 3:15Speaker 8: particular time, and you know, whether it is the Internet
- 3:19Speaker 8: or whether it's streaming, it's sort of interrupted everything that
- 3:22Speaker 8: we were doing. So now we've got to sort of
- 3:24Speaker 8: change our ways and really become more focused on the
- 3:27Speaker 8: consumer and where the consumer is not just a cable brand.
- 3:30Speaker 4: And Louis you come from a background in adveratis yes, right,
- 3:33Speaker 4: and brand relationships. How do you planning the leverage adveratisers
- 3:35Speaker 4: basically get that money right? And how do you plan
- 3:37Speaker 4: the leverage advertisers and brand partners without I guess compromising
- 3:42Speaker 4: the authenticity for black storytellers.
- 3:44Speaker 8: Well, one of the things that I think we have
- 3:46Speaker 8: to understand is what advertisers are looking for and then
- 3:49Speaker 8: understand where our audience is and how we sort of
- 3:52Speaker 8: partner to make it work for both places. So that's
- 3:56Speaker 8: something I've done constantly. The NAACP Immage will Wards is
- 4:00Speaker 8: a great example. You'll see integrations in that show in
- 4:04Speaker 8: a very very special and unique way. So I think
- 4:07Speaker 8: I got that down.
- 4:08Speaker 5: How a y'all still paying for the NAACP Wars Award
- 4:15Speaker 5: shows is what I'm saying, awards is still.
- 4:17Speaker 1: I think thea A CP fifty seven years. We do
- 4:20Speaker 1: have a formula. We have been on air, we will
- 4:23Speaker 1: continue to be on there.
- 4:23Speaker 7: In fact, we've expanded to an NAACP Immature Wars week.
- 4:27Speaker 1: We start off for the golf tournament.
- 4:29Speaker 7: We have a fashion show, We do all the things
- 4:31Speaker 7: that really highlight black excellence. We can no longer sit
- 4:35Speaker 7: back and react to what other platforms do against us
- 4:39Speaker 7: and not include us. We got to invest in our
- 4:41Speaker 7: own and as an organization, we have invested and we
- 4:43Speaker 7: continue to have the show year after year.
- 4:46Speaker 2: This year's theme is we see you break that down
- 4:49Speaker 2: a little bit.
- 4:50Speaker 7: But this current political climate is one in which they're
- 4:52Speaker 7: trying to erase who we are as a culture, as
- 4:55Speaker 7: a people, and so we have to see ourselves. What
- 4:58Speaker 7: frustrates to me more than anything else, says we are
- 5:00Speaker 7: caring about what the oscars say about us and who
- 5:02Speaker 7: the Grammy included did include.
- 5:04Speaker 1: We got to invest in our own.
- 5:05Speaker 7: We have to see ourselves and speak from a surplus
- 5:08Speaker 7: mindset and get away from cared about well white folks
- 5:11Speaker 7: who don't care about us anywhere, what they're saying, what
- 5:12Speaker 7: they're doing.
- 5:13Speaker 2: When we have our own, does it bother you at
- 5:15Speaker 2: any when you see as a lot of these celebrities
- 5:17Speaker 2: go to those other award shows but don't come to
- 5:19Speaker 2: the home shows. Does that bother you any.
- 5:21Speaker 7: Well, you know it bothers me, But it don't because
- 5:23Speaker 7: then they get in trouble. Did they come back and say, Hey,
- 5:27Speaker 7: I'm an HBCU graduate. There's nothing better than our black
- 5:30Speaker 7: cottages to glue cottage because only even with five of us,
- 5:33Speaker 7: we all know each other, right, were not like Hampton.
- 5:35Speaker 7: We all know right in Mississippi. But if we invest
- 5:39Speaker 7: in our on our schools become better. I'm in the
- 5:41Speaker 7: middle of a book now by Nakrumer. He went to
- 5:44Speaker 7: Lincoln and his experience at Lincoln allowed him to be
- 5:47Speaker 7: become the first president of Ghana. Why because Third Good
- 5:51Speaker 7: Marshall was there. He ran across Ralph Ellison. He had
- 5:53Speaker 7: all of the integration of black intelligence, not only in
- 5:56Speaker 7: the United States but globally.
- 5:58Speaker 1: We have to do the same thing for our platform.
- 6:00Speaker 9: Were you guys when you announced BT When you guys
- 6:03Speaker 9: announced that you're going to step it away from those
- 6:05Speaker 9: other war shows, and I remember, like the messaging got
- 6:07Speaker 9: a little bit lost where some things are going to
- 6:09Speaker 9: go to digital, right, So it's not fully out of it.
- 6:11Speaker 9: But were you guys nervous about adding negatively to that
- 6:14Speaker 9: conversation of BT's decline when you decided to make that decision.
- 6:17Speaker 8: Absolutely, And I think we sat there on pause, so
- 6:24Speaker 8: it may be something different coming soon. So just stam passed.
- 6:27Speaker 8: So they're not gone, they just may be on pause.
- 6:30Speaker 8: We've been in conversation about at least bringing one back
- 6:33Speaker 8: over the last three weeks.
- 6:34Speaker 9: You can't tell us what's want yet.
- 6:36Speaker 5: No, I want to ask you that because you mentioned it.
- 6:39Speaker 4: Like Trump, the Trump administration has been open about attacking DEI,
- 6:42Speaker 4: black history, civil rights language. Is the NAACP fighting to
- 6:46Speaker 4: preserve those games from the past or is this moment
- 6:49Speaker 4: forcing the NAACP to completely rethink?
- 6:52Speaker 7: Well, absolutely, fight we are in. I can't name the
- 6:55Speaker 7: number of court cases, many of which we've already won.
- 6:57Speaker 7: Whether it's a redistion case in Texasu'siana, Missouri, whether or
- 7:01Speaker 7: not we put booths on the ground in California for
- 7:03Speaker 7: the referendum, whether or not we're strategizing in Maryland and
- 7:06Speaker 7: Virginia around that redistrict.
- 7:08Speaker 1: And absolutely we're fighting.
- 7:09Speaker 7: But the election have consequences and platforms like this, we
- 7:12Speaker 7: cannot send this messages. We got to be clear that
- 7:15Speaker 7: this November we got to turn out and vote. We
- 7:17Speaker 7: know who the NMB are, we know how they look,
- 7:19Speaker 7: and it's not black men is doing this or not
- 7:22Speaker 7: doing that. It's about all black folks need to get
- 7:24Speaker 7: out and vote because if we don't, our citizenship, our
- 7:27Speaker 7: human essence in this country is at risk.
- 7:31Speaker 5: Is there any way to rethink? Rethink the playbook always?
- 7:36Speaker 7: I mean, you know, add into the conversation in a
- 7:39Speaker 7: way in which we can reconsider things. The medium age
- 7:42Speaker 7: of our community is thirty two years old. Things have
- 7:45Speaker 7: already been rethought and rethought again. We are constantly evolving.
- 7:49Speaker 7: That's why next month we're one hundred and seventeen year
- 7:51Speaker 7: old organization. We're solving, We're strong, and we're continuing to fight.
- 7:55Speaker 7: We have to get out of black folks saying well,
- 7:58Speaker 7: this group isn't doing this. This group should do that
- 8:00Speaker 7: one hell, pick up a shovel and get a scoop
- 8:03Speaker 7: and help all of us get to where we need
- 8:05Speaker 7: to be. Because if we're stronger as an organization, we're
- 8:07Speaker 7: stronger as a community.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Now, you posted something on your social media page that
- 8:11Speaker 2: was very powerful, right. It was a half face of
- 8:14Speaker 2: KKK plan member and half face of an ICE member.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Break that down.
- 8:18Speaker 7: What you mean if you understand the history of this country,
- 8:22Speaker 7: the clan re emerging the twenties. They were able to
- 8:25Speaker 7: re emerge through law enforcement, starting in Indiana, and they
- 8:28Speaker 7: spread across the country. What we're seeing with the ICE
- 8:31Speaker 7: operation now is they're recruiting white supremacists to come into
- 8:34Speaker 7: the agency and go in and terrorize communities. Now, let's
- 8:37Speaker 7: not be food and think it's all about the Latino community.
- 8:40Speaker 1: No, it's us too.
- 8:42Speaker 7: When they're in Minneapolis and they pull it over, brothers
- 8:45Speaker 7: and sisters from Sudanese from Sudan.
- 8:48Speaker 5: They look like us.
- 8:49Speaker 7: They look like all of us around this table. So
- 8:51Speaker 7: it's one group today, it's another one tomorrow, it is us.
- 8:55Speaker 7: After that we have to stand up. So what we're
- 8:57Speaker 7: looking at is clan activity masquerading as ICE agents.
- 9:02Speaker 5: You know what makes you want to host the award?
- 9:05Speaker 3: I said, black Comic, Uh.
- 9:18Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I shouldn't be, don't I don't have
- 9:25Speaker 6: to turn on that.
- 9:29Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what
- 9:37Speaker 3: it's gonna be off. Whatever, man, you know what I
- 9:40Speaker 3: love about you?
- 9:41Speaker 7: D Man?
- 9:41Speaker 5: Some comedians, They just get louder as they get older.
- 9:44Speaker 5: You got shock. Was that intentional? They just like life
- 9:49Speaker 5: script away all the noise.
- 9:50Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I just don't know how the energy
- 9:53Speaker 6: to be hollering, want a whole bunch of stuff. I
- 9:56Speaker 6: think lessons more, you know, being more in the pocket
- 9:59Speaker 6: when it comes to cond he is you know my
- 10:01Speaker 6: aforte and how I get down. You know, I want
- 10:03Speaker 6: to be heard, and I seen you could be heard softly,
- 10:07Speaker 6: You could be heard, you know, loudly or whatever, but
- 10:11Speaker 6: I like to just, you know, stay in the pocket
- 10:13Speaker 6: with what I do, you know, and it keeps me
- 10:15Speaker 6: distant from what the normans.
- 10:18Speaker 2: They had a conversation a couple of months ago about you, Dion,
- 10:21Speaker 2: when you were talking about Kai and we were talking
- 10:24Speaker 2: about the younger generation and the older generation, and you
- 10:27Speaker 2: were saying you said something to the fact that I
- 10:29Speaker 2: don't want to misquote you, that you feel like the
- 10:31Speaker 2: younger generation should do their homework on some of the legends,
- 10:34Speaker 2: and we were saying that sometimes it's very difficult because
- 10:36Speaker 2: if they don't know the individuals, it's very difficult. But
- 10:39Speaker 2: you felt the way that he doesn't necessarily know who
- 10:41Speaker 2: you are.
- 10:41Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it wasn't.
- 10:43Speaker 6: And that's what I think everybody twisted and made it
- 10:45Speaker 6: seem like I was trying to say he didn't know
- 10:46Speaker 6: who I was, and I said over and over again,
- 10:49Speaker 6: I was like, I it wasn't even about me. It
- 10:52Speaker 6: was just about him having that platform to showcase these
- 10:58Speaker 6: icons and let his generation know who these people are.
- 11:02Speaker 6: And I was like, you don't have to know everybody,
- 11:04Speaker 6: because I don't know everybody. My whole thing was at
- 11:07Speaker 6: least know the winners.
- 11:09Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
- 11:11Speaker 6: If you know who won, that's good enough. You know
- 11:13Speaker 6: what I mean, So do your homework and not just
- 11:16Speaker 6: walk around like that. And I love that little brother.
- 11:18Speaker 3: I think he dope. I think he is innovative and
- 11:21Speaker 3: all of that.
- 11:22Speaker 6: I just feel as though that with this generation nowadays,
- 11:26Speaker 6: correct the criticism is considered.
- 11:27Speaker 3: Hate and it's not hate. It's like, what am I
- 11:30Speaker 3: gonna do?
- 11:30Speaker 6: Just let you keep doing what you're gonna do and
- 11:32Speaker 6: then let it keep getting worse and worse and worse,
- 11:35Speaker 6: like the situations that have happened now and certain things whatever.
- 11:39Speaker 6: So my job was to go, hey, little brother, check
- 11:41Speaker 6: this out, do that, and everybody spent it or whatever.
- 11:45Speaker 3: But hopefully he heard it, you know. But then a
- 11:47Speaker 3: little bit after that, I think he was actually going
- 11:50Speaker 3: through stuff, you know.
- 11:51Speaker 6: What I mean, And so what I was saying was
- 11:55Speaker 6: maybe it was something on his mind or hard or whatever.
- 11:58Speaker 6: But I felt like I did my job by saying
- 12:01Speaker 6: what it is, and he went to go get help
- 12:03Speaker 6: and all of that. You get what I mean, because
- 12:04Speaker 6: you never know what nobody's going through, so I have
- 12:07Speaker 6: to say what I have to say and then go
- 12:09Speaker 6: for that, you know what I mean?
- 12:10Speaker 3: So you know much love to that brother. I love
- 12:12Speaker 3: that brother.
- 12:13Speaker 2: You think it's a problem in our community. This is
- 12:14Speaker 2: for all of y'all that we don't necessarily do the
- 12:18Speaker 2: research of where things started from. Like if you go
- 12:22Speaker 2: to a young rapper today, he might not know the
- 12:23Speaker 2: first rap came from the Bronx and it came from
- 12:25Speaker 2: this sound, or different comedians if you're in the comedy world,
- 12:29Speaker 2: who this comedian is, how.
- 12:30Speaker 3: They started there?
- 12:30Speaker 2: So even radio of the first hip hop station and
- 12:33Speaker 2: how it started. Do you feel like that's the problem
- 12:35Speaker 2: in our community.
- 12:35Speaker 7: I think it's an opportunity. I don't think it's a problem.
- 12:38Speaker 7: I mean, when you're trying to build on your craft,
- 12:41Speaker 7: you focus. You're zeroed in and you don't know when
- 12:44Speaker 7: you're gonna hit, but once you hit, it's an opportunity
- 12:47Speaker 7: to begin to expand, so you don't fall into the
- 12:49Speaker 7: same potholes. One of the things we must do as
- 12:52Speaker 7: a community is learned from past mistakes because we got
- 12:55Speaker 7: new ones to make.
- 12:57Speaker 1: And only way we do that is to understand. I
- 13:00Speaker 1: like that to me right right there.
- 13:02Speaker 5: I never thought about it.
- 13:04Speaker 7: You know, you you learned from past mistakes because we
- 13:06Speaker 7: got new ones, and in that moment, it gives the
- 13:09Speaker 7: opportunity to not only perfect your craft, but to grow
- 13:11Speaker 7: the craft. And so that's an opportunity, not a deficit.
- 13:14Speaker 3: I think.
- 13:14Speaker 9: A part of the conversation with the Kai stuff though,
- 13:16Speaker 9: for people who are in like a learning space, is like,
- 13:18Speaker 9: do y'all ever have a chance to have those conversations
- 13:20Speaker 9: with him privately? Like you said, you hope you hurt
- 13:24Speaker 9: what you said, So you guys haven't been able to
- 13:26Speaker 9: talk in private.
- 13:27Speaker 6: No, I haven't been able to talk to him in private.
- 13:28Speaker 6: I would love to, but I didn't reach out because
- 13:31Speaker 6: it was just going so banignas. I just was like, yo,
- 13:34Speaker 6: if you want to talk here, reach out. But I
- 13:36Speaker 6: ain't want to go, hey, this is what it meant,
- 13:38Speaker 6: you know, but I would love to talk to that brother.
- 13:40Speaker 3: I remember I did.
- 13:42Speaker 6: I did something with Marlon Wayne's and Marlin said that
- 13:45Speaker 6: he had talked to him, and uh he said he
- 13:48Speaker 6: was like man, man called the little brother and tell
- 13:51Speaker 6: him and tell him like you know you you you
- 13:53Speaker 6: cool or whatever. And I never got his number whatever,
- 13:56Speaker 6: but Marlon did talk to him, and uh, you know,
- 13:59Speaker 6: I don't really know the outcome was. Malin was like, y'all,
- 14:02Speaker 6: you just call him and I never did. So I
- 14:04Speaker 6: don't have this information even reaching out on ig or whatever.
- 14:07Speaker 6: I just didn't, but I will. I'll reach out to
- 14:10Speaker 6: him and be like, hey, hit me up. You know,
- 14:12Speaker 6: let's talk.
- 14:13Speaker 10: About I love like how you always Dionne, just like
- 14:15Speaker 10: for me knowing you always like wrap your arms around
- 14:18Speaker 10: people or just always speak about people in a positive
- 14:21Speaker 10: like even when those people are you know, under public
- 14:23Speaker 10: trootingy or whatever like you had. I just seen like
- 14:26Speaker 10: a few weeks ago you had Kanye at your show
- 14:29Speaker 10: and how you brought him up on stage and just
- 14:31Speaker 10: like the room just loved seeing him there and let
- 14:33Speaker 10: me y'all from the same city.
- 14:35Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I love that with that.
- 14:37Speaker 5: Did you know he was gonna be there?
- 14:39Speaker 3: Yeah, and shout out to my man John or not.
- 14:42Speaker 6: John was like, man, we had me and John and
- 14:45Speaker 6: no I d We had a dinner the night before
- 14:47Speaker 6: with France and Yay hit up John and John was
- 14:51Speaker 6: telling them, Man, we had a good conversation without stuff,
- 14:54Speaker 6: and Yay was like, man, when the next time y'all
- 14:57Speaker 6: meeting and I want to go out? There was like,
- 14:59Speaker 6: I got to show him you want to go? And
- 15:00Speaker 6: he was like all my family in time for the holidays,
- 15:04Speaker 6: and he was like if I can bring him.
- 15:06Speaker 3: They hit me. I was like, yeah, tell him to
- 15:07Speaker 3: come through. You know how many you got? He was
- 15:09Speaker 3: like twenty five.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Jesus, my room is.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Only forty seats. Bringing couches and crates and other kinds
- 15:27Speaker 3: of stuff.
- 15:27Speaker 6: But yeah, he came in and he brought in all
- 15:30Speaker 6: twenty five his people, his wife and everybody came in
- 15:33Speaker 6: and he had a great time because he needed that,
- 15:36Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
- 15:37Speaker 3: It was a you know, it's a lot of weight
- 15:38Speaker 3: on him, you know, And when it comes to these situations,
- 15:42Speaker 3: I feel like like when we were dealing with one
- 15:45Speaker 3: of our own whatever.
- 15:48Speaker 6: I feel like personally, we shouldn't let everybody get on him,
- 15:51Speaker 6: like like we can get on him. But when everybody
- 15:53Speaker 6: else started getting on him, we go, all right, well,
- 15:56Speaker 6: y'all relaxed, Yeah, we'll take care.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Of him, you know.
- 15:58Speaker 6: And so it was for me to be like, come
- 16:00Speaker 6: on out, come, have a good time, relax your mind,
- 16:04Speaker 6: you know, and I go from there whatever. I wasn't
- 16:07Speaker 6: he supposed to bring him on, you know, bring him
- 16:09Speaker 6: on the stage. But I was like, forget that, you
- 16:12Speaker 6: have pressure.
- 16:13Speaker 5: I agree with that to a certain extent, but and
- 16:15Speaker 5: what you mean what he's saying.
- 16:17Speaker 10: But but.
- 16:20Speaker 5: He pokesed his own community.
- 16:22Speaker 3: To get it, you know, get it. I get it.
- 16:24Speaker 3: I get he does. But I mean, what are you
- 16:26Speaker 3: gonna do?
- 16:27Speaker 6: I just I don't want to see nobody get kicked
- 16:30Speaker 6: while they down, you know what I mean. And so
- 16:32Speaker 6: once they keep kicking while he down, it's like, all right,
- 16:35Speaker 6: that's that's what I mean. And they keep kicking him
- 16:38Speaker 6: while down.
- 16:38Speaker 3: It's like he got the message, Yeah, quit kicking them, motherfucker.
- 16:44Speaker 4: I'm been interested to see what his mindset is because
- 16:46Speaker 4: we haven't heard from him, and he's been quiet for
- 16:48Speaker 4: about a year.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Yeah, he hits. Man, I'm telling you where he at.
- 16:51Speaker 6: He's just like, man, I'm gonna put some music out
- 16:53Speaker 6: and do what I do. I'm gonna go back to
- 16:55Speaker 6: the essence. I'm about to make it so far, I'm
- 16:58Speaker 6: about to make it fun, about to get it in.
- 17:01Speaker 6: And that's where he got with it. He like, man,
- 17:03Speaker 6: I'm just gonna keep doing me and you know whatever whatever.
- 17:06Speaker 6: But he's just chilling right now.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I was gonna ask it, do you have any pressure
- 17:10Speaker 2: when you have like a Kanye at your show based
- 17:12Speaker 2: then a regular show with no celebrities in any pressure
- 17:15Speaker 2: with you will know?
- 17:15Speaker 3: No, not really, not not at all. Like I know
- 17:18Speaker 3: why they there. You know, everybody come to just ease,
- 17:22Speaker 3: they mind and you know the pressure.
- 17:24Speaker 6: You know the pressure of this business or whatever. They
- 17:26Speaker 6: just come to get away. Like we had Paul McCartney
- 17:28Speaker 6: at the show.
- 17:29Speaker 3: You know, he just wanted to come just come hang
- 17:31Speaker 3: out and kick it.
- 17:32Speaker 7: You know.
- 17:33Speaker 6: Everybody come in my room at the impriv I a
- 17:36Speaker 6: residency there right, It's like maybe fifty people only tops,
- 17:41Speaker 6: everybody phone locked up. You can come in there, have
- 17:44Speaker 6: a good time. Ain't nobody gonna record you. Ain't nobody
- 17:47Speaker 6: gonna be looking at you or whatever. You can have
- 17:49Speaker 6: a good time. So people know that, and so they
- 17:52Speaker 6: come and they're not filmed unless I'm filming them, and
- 17:55Speaker 6: then that's it, you know.
- 17:56Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a good time. We have a lot
- 17:59Speaker 3: of we just come through that and just to get away.
- 18:02Speaker 3: But yeah, I ain't. I'm not gonna wave it the
- 18:04Speaker 3: way that I am. Even with Paul McCartney, I was
- 18:07Speaker 3: putting them in the head. I'm punching them, you know, high,
- 18:11Speaker 3: and I want to. I don't want to get high.
- 18:15Speaker 6: It's just us having I mean, making him feel normal,
- 18:19Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like most people walk around there,
- 18:22Speaker 6: Sir Paul, Sir Paul, you know I'm in there, like
- 18:25Speaker 6: calling them pe he loved and all kinds of stuff,
- 18:29Speaker 6: just anything just to make them feel normal.
- 18:31Speaker 5: Started a little bit.
- 18:46Speaker 2: I want to ask you, you know what the successful documentary,
- 18:49Speaker 2: why does a BT do more of those documentaries? Highlight
- 18:52Speaker 2: now with our heroes.
- 18:54Speaker 8: We're looking at that, We are looking at that. The
- 18:57Speaker 8: new edition doc speaks for itself. It was very expensive.
- 19:02Speaker 2: We're trying to make the money back for that because
- 19:03Speaker 2: I figured you did don't know, Okay, it's.
- 19:10Speaker 1: In the movie. Right apart documentary that's a movie.
- 19:14Speaker 5: Though that was a movie. It was all above go ahead.
- 19:20Speaker 1: Because it was a movie, but it was in partant.
- 19:23Speaker 8: Yeah, so we're looking at it figure out can we
- 19:29Speaker 8: do it in a more efficient way. But there are
- 19:32Speaker 8: many stories out there, as you know, they need to
- 19:33Speaker 8: be told.
- 19:35Speaker 4: How do you evolve a tent pole event like the
- 19:37Speaker 4: nua A CP Awards so they feel like less nostalgic
- 19:41Speaker 4: and more and more like a reflection of where black
- 19:43Speaker 4: culture is now.
- 19:44Speaker 5: Well, I think I'm going next.
- 19:45Speaker 8: I think Dion is the start of that, and I
- 19:49Speaker 8: think the type of people that we celebrate, we honor,
- 19:53Speaker 8: have to be current and part of the culture right now.
- 19:56Speaker 8: So I think always culture has to be current. So
- 20:00Speaker 8: that's the evolution, and we also have to expand the distribution.
- 20:04Speaker 8: So you'll see a lot of stuff online this year
- 20:07Speaker 8: that you never saw before. So we'll be using all
- 20:10Speaker 8: of the platforms to sort of highlight.
- 20:12Speaker 7: And recognizing that we have over sixty categories only between
- 20:16Speaker 7: eight and ten our air life for the two hours,
- 20:19Speaker 7: we have a dinner where we recognize you know, social
- 20:21Speaker 7: media content, the whole deal. The reason why Dianna is
- 20:24Speaker 7: important because joint and laughter is also advocacy, you know,
- 20:28Speaker 7: artists advocacy. And so what most of people see is
- 20:31Speaker 7: a two hour live broadcast, but a week of activities,
- 20:35Speaker 7: you know, the golf tournament kicks off. But then the
- 20:37Speaker 7: real night where we get the most celebrities is the dinner.
- 20:41Speaker 7: And that's when we honor all the categories from literary to.
- 20:46Speaker 1: You name it.
- 20:47Speaker 7: And it's a part of how we have evolved as
- 20:49Speaker 7: an organization, how we've evolved in terms of this highlighting
- 20:53Speaker 7: black excellence and the entertainment industry.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Our next thing is visual arts.
- 20:57Speaker 7: We have black artists in black galleries, have to honor
- 21:00Speaker 7: them because folks are taking up our art, elevating the
- 21:03Speaker 7: prices and we don't even own it.
- 21:05Speaker 1: And so we got to get to that space where
- 21:07Speaker 1: we own more of the content that we create.
- 21:09Speaker 3: I have a question. You to raise your hand, excuse me,
- 21:12Speaker 3: have a question I want to ask you. I I
- 21:14Speaker 3: want to put nobody on frustreet, but I do have
- 21:16Speaker 3: a question.
- 21:17Speaker 6: So I remember when when Kanye got in trouble and
- 21:21Speaker 6: Nick Cannon got in trouble and they talked to leaders
- 21:25Speaker 6: of the races Jewish community. So when people talk bad
- 21:37Speaker 6: about us, why isn't and there's nobody the answer to
- 21:41Speaker 6: why is that?
- 21:42Speaker 1: Well, it all depends on the situation in the scenario.
- 21:45Speaker 7: So when Nick Cannon got into the score for Marve
- 21:48Speaker 7: Small who was at Paramot, right, we retally.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Started talking put together strategy. He's back on the air
- 21:54Speaker 1: now right.
- 21:55Speaker 7: When Kyrie Irving got into the issues with the with
- 21:58Speaker 7: the Brooklyn team here Isaiah the Times and how we
- 22:00Speaker 7: got on the phone. We came up with a strategy.
- 22:02Speaker 7: We got this agent, we got Kyrie on and we
- 22:04Speaker 7: began to talk about what is the pivot.
- 22:06Speaker 1: To save his career. So it all depends on the
- 22:09Speaker 1: scenario and whether or not the individual is open enough
- 22:12Speaker 1: to reach out.
- 22:13Speaker 5: But that wasn't the question Dion asked.
- 22:14Speaker 4: What Dion said was when other racests do stuff to
- 22:17Speaker 4: offend Black people, who do they answer to?
- 22:19Speaker 1: Who do they have to who the other races answer?
- 22:22Speaker 6: Because because when when we do something wrong, we have
- 22:25Speaker 6: to go talk to the leaders of that race.
- 22:27Speaker 1: But why do you have to do that? You don't
- 22:29Speaker 1: have to do that.
- 22:30Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just I'm only asking to.
- 22:36Speaker 1: But it goes to the individual scenario.
- 22:41Speaker 7: We should be answering to anybody I understand that. So
- 22:44Speaker 7: I'm gonna go to the Kyrie Irvan Peace right. So
- 22:46Speaker 7: the ball back came said, we want you to go
- 22:47Speaker 7: to this museum, and that museum was like, but have
- 22:50Speaker 7: you been to the African American Museum?
- 22:52Speaker 1: How we're going to look at our own stuff?
- 22:54Speaker 7: How do we begin to react based on our narrative
- 22:57Speaker 7: response and not somebody else's. Too often we're reacting because
- 23:02Speaker 7: the team around us don't look like us. That's been
- 23:06Speaker 7: the problem that are far too many of these same individuals.
- 23:09Speaker 7: The agent ain't one of us, the manager is not us,
- 23:12Speaker 7: the lawyer's not us. So what happens Their advice is
- 23:16Speaker 7: coming from their professionals who are moving them to communities
- 23:19Speaker 7: that's not us. But if you have people surrounding you
- 23:23Speaker 7: that look like us, understand who we are, then the
- 23:26Speaker 7: advice you're getting becomes even more crucial. So then you
- 23:30Speaker 7: ask yourself when you look at individual or individual, who's
- 23:33Speaker 7: representing them, who's in their ear? Because far too many
- 23:37Speaker 7: of our high A caliber celebrities they leave us.
- 23:44Speaker 4: I do like that question, Dion asked, though, because I
- 23:47Speaker 4: think people for so long have looked to the NAACP.
- 23:51Speaker 4: I guess to be black people's version of.
- 23:53Speaker 5: Like the ADL.
- 23:54Speaker 4: But by the way, the ADL is supposed to be
- 23:56Speaker 4: black people's version of the ADL, it's not. They' supposed
- 23:59Speaker 4: to be anti defamation for you know, black people with
- 24:01Speaker 4: you wish people know, But I guess that's what people
- 24:02Speaker 4: want the NAACP to be.
- 24:04Speaker 7: We can only be what people, when you get to
- 24:06Speaker 7: a certain status, allowed to be. Like when you talk
- 24:08Speaker 7: about all these folks, who's that lawyer?
- 24:11Speaker 1: Is it black?
- 24:11Speaker 7: A wife, who's agent, who's representing them? That becomes the
- 24:16Speaker 7: key because you all know this game much better than
- 24:19Speaker 7: I do. In the isolation of the controversy, only those
- 24:23Speaker 7: who have the ear are able to inform on how
- 24:26Speaker 7: the move. I'm not gonna mention one particular form of
- 24:30Speaker 7: professional football player. We reached out his team knew, didn't
- 24:35Speaker 7: even know who we were, and so we're trying to help,
- 24:38Speaker 7: but the team don't even know who we are, so
- 24:41Speaker 7: he can't come to us because he's all of twenty
- 24:44Speaker 7: three years old, and then his whole team it doesn't
- 24:48Speaker 7: look like us don't understand the nature of what we do.
- 24:51Speaker 1: And we still have yet to see this brother at
- 24:53Speaker 1: a black event.
- 24:55Speaker 3: But I think that it should be publicized. And I.
- 24:59Speaker 6: Think this should be publicized because it gives people and
- 25:03Speaker 6: it makes people think like there is a consequence with
- 25:06Speaker 6: what you say, because there it's never.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Publicized that people.
- 25:11Speaker 6: It's not like somebody can go on blackface or say
- 25:15Speaker 6: something bad and then they come over and they go
- 25:18Speaker 6: and they see them sitting down with you talking and
- 25:21Speaker 6: and you talking to them and going, you know, this
- 25:25Speaker 6: is what you need to do.
- 25:26Speaker 3: This, this is the forgiving them and all the rest
- 25:29Speaker 3: of that.
- 25:29Speaker 1: We never see that, we see them, but we see
- 25:33Speaker 1: that has happened a couple of times.
- 25:34Speaker 9: I remember Jimmy Foulon.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Situation, Jimmy Fallon after that, we don't remember that. It
- 25:43Speaker 1: was comments he made on the air I'm.
- 25:45Speaker 9: Not ala situation. Yeah, there was like a photo. There's
- 25:51Speaker 9: a whole list of people that have had to come
- 25:52Speaker 9: to you guys and apologize and have conversations.
- 25:54Speaker 1: But it goes to the Kayak example.
- 25:58Speaker 7: Are we inform women and are young entertainers hell our
- 26:02Speaker 7: peers about their representation. We're giving our money away. I
- 26:06Speaker 7: just heard a narrative of our prints. Someone wanted to
- 26:09Speaker 7: do his cover of song. He says, I'm not gonna
- 26:12Speaker 7: let you do that because you don't own the rights
- 26:14Speaker 7: of your son. I refuse to pay for these folks
- 26:17Speaker 7: grandkids to go to college off of my material. The
- 26:20Speaker 7: real question for the celebrity community are we allowing ourselves
- 26:25Speaker 7: to be pimped as we masquerade in blackface? Because oftentimes
- 26:30Speaker 7: that's what's happening. BT is a much stronger entity if
- 26:33Speaker 7: more of our folks invest in it, and ACP is
- 26:37Speaker 7: a stronger advocate if more of our folks invest in it.
- 26:40Speaker 7: My membership roster, those who support me are everyday working people.
- 26:44Speaker 7: That's a beautiful thing. That's who we represent. But we
- 26:47Speaker 7: have to be honest about this conversation. Three hundred and
- 26:50Speaker 7: sixty degrees. Are we investing in our young people who've
- 26:54Speaker 7: gone to law school, who are ad agencies, who can
- 26:58Speaker 7: actually do the thing, and making sure we're repped by them.
- 27:01Speaker 9: I have a question, so, and it's going back to
- 27:04Speaker 9: what you said about with Nick Cannon and not Colin Kaepernick,
- 27:09Speaker 9: Kyrie Irving. You said, why do you think that we
- 27:11Speaker 9: have to go and apologize?
- 27:12Speaker 7: Right?
- 27:13Speaker 9: So when people come to you guys to have those conversations,
- 27:16Speaker 9: to apologize, to do the whole dance in the tour
- 27:18Speaker 9: why do you guys entertain the conversation if there are
- 27:21Speaker 9: leaders like you in the NAACP who feel that way,
- 27:24Speaker 9: because I know Morgan Waland did the same thing as
- 27:25Speaker 9: well too.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Well, First of all, we.
- 27:28Speaker 7: Have to understand the historical nature so we don't offend people,
- 27:32Speaker 7: whether you black, white, male, female, or whatever the case
- 27:34Speaker 7: may be. And there are certain scenarios where we make mistakes.
- 27:38Speaker 7: People make mistakes, and how do you get from under
- 27:41Speaker 7: that when you are when you are actually relying on
- 27:45Speaker 7: the public for your support. So sometimes you do apologize
- 27:48Speaker 7: because if I made an offensive comment towards black women,
- 27:51Speaker 7: y'all to be upside my head, I do need to
- 27:54Speaker 7: pivot and apologize because if I made that mistake, But
- 27:57Speaker 7: in doing so, you need to do it in a
- 27:59Speaker 7: way in which you're not demeaning yourself, that you're not
- 28:02Speaker 7: portraying the essence of who you are, and you can
- 28:06Speaker 7: be honest that I made this mistake, you know, er
- 28:09Speaker 7: learn from it and move forward. So sometimes you do
- 28:11Speaker 7: have we do need to apologize. But if you got
- 28:14Speaker 7: a team that surrounded you that is not from our community,
- 28:18Speaker 7: what happens there is you don't know who to apologize to. Properly,
- 28:22Speaker 7: and you don't know what the apology look like. And
- 28:24Speaker 7: then you have people saying you gotta apologize, Plus you
- 28:27Speaker 7: gotta donate to this thing over here, give money to
- 28:29Speaker 7: that thing over there.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Just some people that ain't gonna like you for the
- 28:33Speaker 1: rest and to need that check. You don't see that
- 28:36Speaker 1: this museum when Hampton needs that check or Howard needs
- 28:38Speaker 1: that check.
- 28:39Speaker 4: That's interesting. You know, there's always criticism that BET isn't
- 28:42Speaker 4: black owned. So so how do you balance BET being
- 28:44Speaker 4: part of a large corporate instructure while still serving as
- 28:47Speaker 4: a platform for black voices.
- 28:50Speaker 8: Well, one of the I think, dirty little secret. It's
- 28:52Speaker 8: not black owned, but it is black run. It's about
- 28:56Speaker 8: ninety some percent of the people who run BET look
- 28:59Speaker 8: like us. Uh. They come from our communities that have
- 29:02Speaker 8: done extremely well. One of the things that I want
- 29:05Speaker 8: to do, and I said this or the first week
- 29:07Speaker 8: on the job, is really highlight the people who run
- 29:10Speaker 8: be ET. We have some very strong, intelligent people who
- 29:14Speaker 8: run be ET. And you usual only know that one
- 29:16Speaker 8: face or two faces that are at the company. There's
- 29:19Speaker 8: a team of leadership there that I think really our
- 29:22Speaker 8: community needs to know and our community needs to engage
- 29:25Speaker 8: with hey.
- 29:25Speaker 6: With the new shows and stuff when they come back,
- 29:27Speaker 6: can you make sure everybody hairline ain't super crispy on show?
- 29:32Speaker 3: Not that's what people want. Risty, you've been caged.
- 29:51Speaker 1: You've been caged for three.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Weeks for a beer. But crispy hairlins, hairlines of normal.
- 30:00Speaker 4: I want to give you the opportunity to teach to
- 30:02Speaker 4: deck because people like to say the NAACP was started
- 30:05Speaker 4: by white folks.
- 30:06Speaker 7: So in nineteen o nine, people who we think are
- 30:10Speaker 7: who we see as white today, they.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Were not considered white in nineteen o nine.
- 30:13Speaker 7: Jewish people were not considered white in nineteen o nine,
- 30:16Speaker 7: nor was Italian Catholics. The nac people was created by
- 30:21Speaker 7: a set of individuals who were othered. They were not
- 30:24Speaker 7: a part of the main stream. It wasn't until the
- 30:26Speaker 7: late twenties, thirties and then after World War Two that
- 30:29Speaker 7: people we see now as white are considered white.
- 30:32Speaker 1: And so this concept that ACP.
- 30:33Speaker 7: Will started by white folks, No we will, started by
- 30:35Speaker 7: a group of people who were other not be very clear.
- 30:38Speaker 7: Black folks created inn ACP with the Niagara Movement with W. B.
- 30:42Speaker 7: De Boys, Id B. Wells, William Roy Trotter. They came
- 30:46Speaker 7: to a meeting that next year as a result of
- 30:48Speaker 7: a racial incident that happened in Spring for of the Noise,
- 30:50Speaker 7: and they agreed collectively to start an organization that was
- 30:54Speaker 7: national scope that represent colored people across the spectrum, whether
- 30:59Speaker 7: you was Irish, Catholic, or Jewish or black, whatever, because
- 31:04Speaker 7: democracy was not being applied to all of those communities,
- 31:07Speaker 7: and so this fallacy that will started by white people
- 31:10Speaker 7: in nineteen on nine. Those folks won't consider white. They
- 31:13Speaker 7: only became white when it was politically expeded. If you
- 31:16Speaker 7: was Italian, you was not considered white. When LaGuardia got
- 31:19Speaker 7: elected in this city, he was not considered white. And
- 31:23Speaker 7: as a result, over time, the Italian community became a
- 31:26Speaker 7: part of the social construct of whiteness. We never will
- 31:30Speaker 7: because this ain't going nowhere. So we have to be
- 31:33Speaker 7: black to the bone and be clear and proud about
- 31:36Speaker 7: it through and through. But no one did us a
- 31:39Speaker 7: favorite in creating an organization. They was creating an organization
- 31:41Speaker 7: to advocate for their own security as well.
- 31:46Speaker 5: Let's look at some of these nominees, Lauren, pull them up.
- 31:49Speaker 5: I know we all over the place.
- 31:50Speaker 9: Interview Outstanding motion picture highs the lowest one of them days,
- 31:56Speaker 9: Sarah's Oil Centers, Wicked. Outstanding Documentary Being Eddie on Netflix.
- 32:01Speaker 9: What are the category Outstanding Podcast News and Information, Outstanding Podcast,
- 32:06Speaker 9: Life and self Help, Lifestyle and self Help, out stand
- 32:08Speaker 9: the podcast, Society and Culture. I think I was supposed
- 32:11Speaker 9: to be in that one. Outstanding Podcast, Arts, Sports and Entertainment,
- 32:14Speaker 9: Outstanding Podcast, Scripted, Limited series short form. You have the
- 32:18Speaker 9: Outstanding Gospel Christian Album, Outstanding Album out Sending Songs Solo,
- 32:22Speaker 9: R and B, hip Hop and Rap song outstand The
- 32:25Speaker 9: Variety Series are Special, Outstanding Children's Program, out Standing New
- 32:29Speaker 9: Artists out Send e Mail Artists, Female Artists, Entertainer of
- 32:32Speaker 9: the Year. Tanna Taylor is also in that category too.
- 32:35Speaker 9: The San p Ribo and do Chi, Kendrick Lamar, Michael B. Jordan,
- 32:37Speaker 9: i'll Standing Comedy Series. I'LL Standing Drama Series, out Standing
- 32:40Speaker 9: News Information Series are Special, Outstanding talk Series, out stand
- 32:44Speaker 9: in Reality program, Reality, competition series, Services and game shows.
- 32:48Speaker 4: But then you didn't demand that The Funny Knowing You
- 32:51Speaker 4: podcast get nominated.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Podcast is blowing up, Man, Young thing Man next year,
- 33:03Speaker 3: next year is going to be on that Man with
- 33:05Speaker 3: your podcast.
- 33:07Speaker 1: I just watched you sitting down with Bill Burr.
- 33:09Speaker 5: That's also my favorite.
- 33:10Speaker 6: Got another one coming out Wednesday, We got a Brian
- 33:14Speaker 6: Austin Green from Wow.
- 33:18Speaker 3: He's gonna be talking about what she was saying about
- 33:23Speaker 3: what they dated.
- 33:31Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, you know Wednesday Wow.
- 33:37Speaker 6: They was while they was on Martin and she said
- 33:40Speaker 6: that she had let him go because she didn't want
- 33:44Speaker 6: because he was sleeping so many black women, she didn't
- 33:47Speaker 6: want to keep sleeping with him.
- 33:48Speaker 3: And then he go be with a white girl and
- 33:51Speaker 3: his richest with a white girl, and he was like,
- 33:56Speaker 3: you know, she's she's like.
- 34:00Speaker 1: About to tease.
- 34:07Speaker 6: A little bit, a little bit and went around, wait no,
- 34:10Speaker 6: she she said that she was like, no, I let
- 34:13Speaker 6: him go, and uh he was like no, no, this
- 34:16Speaker 6: is what happened.
- 34:17Speaker 3: And he hit me up and.
- 34:22Speaker 9: Did he post a video somewhere on social or no?
- 34:25Speaker 9: I don't know if you okay, but that might have
- 34:27Speaker 9: been a fake when I saw because I thought I
- 34:28Speaker 9: saw like a response somewhere from her.
- 34:31Speaker 6: I think he said something like, oh I love you girl,
- 34:34Speaker 6: but but but he but he still he still love her.
- 34:38Speaker 3: But yeah, that was a question.
- 34:41Speaker 5: Asked you what you're saying?
- 34:42Speaker 1: I was asking how would have win this?
- 34:44Speaker 3: Picked.
- 34:44Speaker 2: How do how do people decide who to these categories?
- 34:47Speaker 1: So there's a first of all, you have to submit
- 34:49Speaker 1: your content.
- 34:50Speaker 7: There is a committee people in the industry and lay
- 34:54Speaker 7: persons over three hundred plus people to nominate. And then
- 34:58Speaker 7: once you are nominated, uh, you're voted on. Depending on
- 35:02Speaker 7: the category, it could be a committee that votes on
- 35:04Speaker 7: you of experts. So the literary committee, you have individuals
- 35:06Speaker 7: who read a lot of.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Books, right.
- 35:08Speaker 7: Uh.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Some of the categories is is uh you know, anyone
- 35:12Speaker 1: can vote, you know, the mask vote and other categories.
- 35:15Speaker 7: There is another voting committee and so it's broken up
- 35:18Speaker 7: so no one has the thumb on the scale for
- 35:21Speaker 7: any particular product. Uh. You know, I was executive produce
- 35:24Speaker 7: us day Time, so called Beyond the Gates. I couldn't
- 35:27Speaker 7: have my thumb on the scale. But they got nominated
- 35:30Speaker 7: and and I'm glad it is nominated. It is an
- 35:32Speaker 7: opportunity for us to really appreciate our content and then
- 35:35Speaker 7: vote on what we think is best represent our image
- 35:38Speaker 7: and who we are as a people.
- 35:40Speaker 3: What we need.
- 35:40Speaker 4: We need an uncommon favor by Don Staley to win
- 35:43Speaker 4: outstanding literary work. That's Black privilege publishing, and we need
- 35:46Speaker 4: uh Pod to win Outstanding Podcast.
- 35:51Speaker 5: Immediate reason choice. We need money and well for John hol'brien.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Black Effect, that's Black Effect podcast and with Doctor j
- 36:01Speaker 4: that's Black Effect.
- 36:01Speaker 1: We need that to win as well.
- 36:04Speaker 5: What else we need to win?
- 36:05Speaker 4: Oh and we need Kingsland to win an Outstanding Podcast,
- 36:08Speaker 4: Scripted Limited Series that's SBA Productions and Audible Abody else.
- 36:12Speaker 5: No, that's that's covered.
- 36:17Speaker 2: So the show is February twenty eighth on b E T.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Make sure you go out and watch it. And we
- 36:21Speaker 2: appreciate you brothers for joining us this morning on.
- 36:23Speaker 3: CBS and.
- 36:26Speaker 5: Y'all show about that. CBS doesn't have some changes.
- 36:32Speaker 3: I'm sure about that.
- 36:35Speaker 1: And in fact, why don't the Breakfast Club come out
- 36:37Speaker 1: and air from there? We stop? We kick off on
- 36:38Speaker 1: Tuesday with a golf tournament. We're doing something every day,
- 36:41Speaker 1: come out of the air.
- 36:42Speaker 3: Why not?
- 36:43Speaker 7: What day is it?
- 36:44Speaker 1: Two days? That's Saturday, But we're doing something from Tuesday
- 36:47Speaker 1: through Saturday.
- 36:48Speaker 5: Okay, okay, you know.
- 36:49Speaker 4: What I do have one last question when you talk
- 36:51Speaker 4: about CVS, a lot of black people are politically exhausted.
- 36:54Speaker 4: You heard deonce about how you know his his comedy
- 36:58Speaker 4: shows are an escape, like how does the NAACP re
- 37:02Speaker 4: energize people who feel like, you know, they vote protesting
- 37:06Speaker 4: donating like they feel like, oh again.
- 37:10Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like, you know, I'm exhausted from eating. There
- 37:13Speaker 7: if I'm not gonna eat anymore and I'm gonna die
- 37:15Speaker 7: because I don't eat. Dion is a good example, said earlier.
- 37:19Speaker 7: Joy and laughter is a part of advocacy, and we
- 37:21Speaker 7: recognize that so many of our people are consuming the
- 37:24Speaker 7: information from sports and comedy, so we're trying to get
- 37:27Speaker 7: more into that space so you can be entertained but
- 37:30Speaker 7: also be informed. We cannot promote this concept that we're exhausted.
- 37:34Speaker 7: We have to just drive in the notion that if
- 37:36Speaker 7: we don't participate, you think things are bad now, it's.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Only going to get worse. A year ago, we didn't think.
- 37:42Speaker 7: It was going to be this bad, and as a
- 37:45Speaker 7: result of some of us not participating, it was more
- 37:47Speaker 7: people not voting that voted in our community.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Therefore, we have to drive the notion that voting is
- 37:53Speaker 1: like breathing and eating.
- 37:55Speaker 7: You must do it regardless of your fatigue, because if
- 37:58Speaker 7: you don't, you won't be able to.
- 38:00Speaker 5: Breathe or eat.
- 38:01Speaker 4: So you have moments like I think last year y'all
- 38:03Speaker 4: had Vice President Kamala Harris. You know, she won an
- 38:06Speaker 4: award and she gave her speech. Are you gonna have
- 38:08Speaker 4: moments like that?
- 38:10Speaker 1: We're more than likely.
- 38:10Speaker 7: I mean, we're the NACP absolutely in between Deon Teller's
- 38:14Speaker 7: from great jokes.
- 38:16Speaker 8: But I think Charlamagne to that point of exhaustion, I
- 38:19Speaker 8: think it's on all of us to make sure that
- 38:21Speaker 8: our community doesn't get exhausted. I mean, because people are
- 38:25Speaker 8: gonna get tired at different moments of time depending on
- 38:27Speaker 8: what happens in the community. So I think it's important,
- 38:30Speaker 8: especially those of us in the media, that we continue
- 38:33Speaker 8: to push and motivate and inspire people.
- 38:36Speaker 7: And we just launched an ACP Plus. It's a platform
- 38:39Speaker 7: for podcasts, short form media for that very reason. We
- 38:43Speaker 7: just launch a venture capital fund so we can reinvest
- 38:46Speaker 7: in our communities at two hundred million dollars raise. We're
- 38:48Speaker 7: the organization that we realize that the sum total of
- 38:52Speaker 7: the Black experience goes beyond entertainment, goes beyond what goes
- 38:55Speaker 7: on to DC is everything that we do, we try
- 38:58Speaker 7: to be in all of those spaces.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Fifty seventh NAACP Image Awards goes down on B E,
- 39:03Speaker 2: T N, CBS, February twenty ah d On Cole, Derreck Johnson, Lewis.
- 39:07Speaker 1: Car thank you guys for joining us. Thank you, And
- 39:09Speaker 1: they can vote online for these the categories. You can
- 39:14Speaker 1: vote online. That's correct, all right, that's right. It's the
- 39:16Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Good morning, hold.
- 39:19Speaker 2: Every day up, wake, click your ass up, the Breakfast Club.
- 39:23Speaker 1: You don't finish or y'all done,