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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Still NFC South Favorites? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 3: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 4: Let's have some fun. I can't go to work without
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  Speaker 4: listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 5: As I look at their defense, man for man. They've
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  Speaker 5: got a defensive front that should be able to apply
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  Speaker 5: pressure with the front four. They've got one of the
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  Speaker 5: better defensive linemen in Derrick Brown in the league. Bobby
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  Speaker 5: Brown is a solid player. Lee Hunter, their draft pick,
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  Speaker 5: is only going to get better. Jalen Phillips, we know
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  Speaker 5: what he provides. One of the biggest free agent signings
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  Speaker 5: this year, both as a pass rusher and just as
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  Speaker 5: an all-around player. Bobby Okereke with the turnover early. Leading
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  Speaker 5: tackler for the Giants last year, Devin Lloyd. So much
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  Speaker 5: excitement around him, what he brings in the pressure packages
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  Speaker 5: we saw today. That was influential. In the secondary, they've got.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch of ball hawks.
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  Speaker 5: They've got run support players. So hard to measure these
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  Speaker 5: guys based on today's performance going up against the offense
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  Speaker 5: that they just faced. I think Carolina is still the
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  Speaker 5: favorite in the NFC South. Just given what I saw
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  Speaker 5: on offense, I know this defense will improve as the
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  Speaker 5: season progresses.
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  Speaker 6: Very interesting. It's not often, Bone, I get to team
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  Speaker 6: up with Drew Brees. Lord knows the guy aggravated the
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  Speaker 6: crap out of me and all Panther fans numerous times.
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  Speaker 6: But I find that comment from the broadcast towards the
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  Speaker 6: end of the game when the writing's on the wall,
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  Speaker 6: the Panthers got their heinies kicked.
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  Speaker 2: For Drew Brees to say that.
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  Speaker 6: Now, full disclosure, it's not like he's saying, Bone, they're
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  Speaker 6: favorites to win the NFC. It's not like he's saying
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  Speaker 6: they're favorites to win the NFC West. It is the
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  Speaker 6: NFC South where everybody lost on Sunday. But I am curious,
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  Speaker 6: when you hear that, Panther fans, do you think, you
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  Speaker 6: know what, he's right? Or do you feel like that's crazy?
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  Speaker 6: He sat here live in that stadium and watched that
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  Speaker 6: defense and still thinks we win in the division. I'm
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  Speaker 6: curious to see what y'all think about that. How do
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  Speaker 6: you view those comments, Bone?
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  Speaker 3: Well, obviously he saw something that he liked there in
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  Speaker 3: the offense that led him to believe that this team
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  Speaker 3: may have turned the corner offensively. And he maybe just
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  Speaker 3: thought it was week one against a good team and
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  Speaker 3: didn't really put as much stock into how many points
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  Speaker 3: in yards they gave up. So I think that he's
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  Speaker 3: basically telling you don't overreact. It's week one, and it's
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  Speaker 3: a very winnable division. Because, Matt, do we think in
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  Speaker 3: this division– Atlanta, I think they're the team that they're
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  Speaker 3: a mess. I think Atlanta Mac is going to be
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  Speaker 3: playing for one of the quarterbacks in the draft. I
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  Speaker 3: think Atlanta is going to be a mess most of
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  Speaker 3: the year, especially once. They lost Jalen Walker, and then
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  Speaker 3: Pierce got suspended. I thought their defense might be okay.
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  Speaker 3: Now I just think that they're destined for last place.
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  Speaker 3: Having said that, do we really think, despite the results
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  Speaker 3: the other day with the Panthers and their defense, do
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  Speaker 3: we really think in the South, with Tampa, the Saints,
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  Speaker 3: and the Panthers, Do we think there's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot of separation from those three teams? Aren't
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  Speaker 3: they kind of near each other? They all play similar schedules.
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  Speaker 3: I just think he's saying of those three teams that
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  Speaker 3: are all very similar, he still believes in the Panthers
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  Speaker 3: the most, and quite frankly, so do I.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you do. You're right, though.
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  Speaker 3: They're not in the NFC West here. And that's one
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  Speaker 3: of the things I've said all along.
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  Speaker 6: I picked the Panthers to go 9-8 and to win
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  Speaker 6: a pretty crappy division. I think they're going to prove
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  Speaker 6: to be a better team than they were last year.
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  Speaker 6: By no means do I think they're great, but I
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  Speaker 6: think they're on the way progressing. I don't want to
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  Speaker 6: change my prediction based off one game. I think there's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of emotion going on, Bone, in Panther Nation,
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  Speaker 6: and of course there is. We care passionately. We're expecting
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  Speaker 6: a way better defense on the field with the guys
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  Speaker 6: we added. I think eventually it'll work itself out.
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  Speaker 2: I really do.
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  Speaker 6: And I think you made a comment yesterday, and I
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  Speaker 6: wasn't ready for it, Bone. But you made a comment
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  Speaker 6: yesterday that does make a hell of a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 6: And I wasn't ready for sense yesterday. You told me
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  Speaker 6: to put that in my back pocket and don't say
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  Speaker 6: it until Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Or Wednesday. So you let me know, Mac, when you
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  Speaker 2: want my common sense takes. Here we are, baby.
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  Speaker 6: The fact that if we look at that offense, and
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  Speaker 6: that was the unit we've been the most worried about,
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  Speaker 6: and a lot of people have been worried sick about Bryce.
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  Speaker 6: Does Sunday, to Drew Brees' point, not make you feel like, oh, Bryson,
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  Speaker 6: this offense might be better than we thought. And if
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  Speaker 6: the defense can rebound, even if it doesn't end up
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  Speaker 6: being the top 10 unit that you and I were predicted,
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  Speaker 6: let's say it's middle of the pack again. Can the
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  Speaker 6: offense get to around middle of the pack? I think
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  Speaker 6: that might win you the NFC South. If you have
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  Speaker 6: a solid, but average offense and defense, I feel like
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  Speaker 6: that could probably win you the South.
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  Speaker 3: Good Nugget says, and I think you may have brought
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  Speaker 3: this up either earlier today or yesterday, so if I'm
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  Speaker 3: repeating you, I apologize, but Mike Tomlin said similar things
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  Speaker 3: on Football Night in America about the defense is told
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  Speaker 3: not to hit for two straight months. You go out
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  Speaker 3: there in week one, now you've got to go hit.
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  Speaker 3: And he didn't say this, but I'm adding on to it.
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  Speaker 3: Then you factor in the offense that the Panthers are
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  Speaker 3: playing in their first game. They can't hit. They're not
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  Speaker 3: playing in the preseason. and they go out there, they
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  Speaker 3: have to go chase Cable Williams around, and they have
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  Speaker 3: to play a Ben Johnson offense in game number one. Well,
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  Speaker 3: then you start to really step back from the emotion
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  Speaker 3: of it all and break it down. You say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: no wonder they struggled. They're facing a great offense. They're
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  Speaker 3: getting used to each other, and they can't really do
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  Speaker 3: anything for two months, and that's the first team you face?
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  Speaker 3: That's a very tough matchup for any defense, especially.
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  Speaker 2: In week number one.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Tomlin was saying that. Now, Canales kind of said, nah, nah,
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  Speaker 6: it wasn't tackling. You know what I mean? But that
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  Speaker 6: is a big Tomlin theory of why these defenses, many
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  Speaker 6: of them were hot garbage this weekend. Most points scored
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  Speaker 6: in a NFL Week 1, and you can't do it.
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  Speaker 6: It takes two to tango. The offenses have to be good.
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  Speaker 6: The defenses have to be bad as well. I just
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  Speaker 6: think there's too much talent on this defense to continue
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  Speaker 6: to be horrid. I just think guys like Jalen Phillips,
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  Speaker 6: who had a sack and four pressures the other day.
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  Speaker 6: Devin Lloyd, who had some good moments and a couple
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  Speaker 6: of rough moments. Okereke, this is a dude, Bone, that
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  Speaker 6: we were asking to play a ton of snaps and
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  Speaker 6: just got here.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: I think that's also a factor. I do think we've
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  Speaker 6: got to get Pat Jones back sooner rather than later.
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  Speaker 6: I do feel like that needs to happen. And they
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  Speaker 6: need to sort out that third cornerback situation. I would
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  Speaker 6: like to see Avero go to Shaw Smith-Wade in the
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  Speaker 6: slot and let's get Horn back outside. Maybe they tried
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  Speaker 6: to rush this thing, Bone, where JC played 20 snaps
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  Speaker 6: in the slot.
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  Speaker 2: I know they wanted to get him in there. I
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  Speaker 2: like the theory.
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  Speaker 6: But maybe Will Lee wasn't ready to play 27 snaps
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  Speaker 6: the other day.
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 6: So I wonder if they're going to change that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I just, now this texter says, Mac, if you watched
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  Speaker 6: all those games this weekend, there's no way you would
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  Speaker 6: say the Panthers are the best team. I agree with that.
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  Speaker 6: I think the Saints performance was the best performance. I
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  Speaker 6: think for them to start— Especially the second half. They
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  Speaker 6: got shut out in the first half, but yes. Should
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  Speaker 6: have had a touchdown, had it taken away. Should have
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  Speaker 6: had a defensive touchdown. I thought that was a screw job.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't crying about it, though. But yeah, the way
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  Speaker 6: they came on, slow start. Tyler Shuck, slow start. But
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  Speaker 6: the way they came on, Shuck throws to 400. That
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  Speaker 6: got my attention. And, I mean, you can't deny Tampa.
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  Speaker 6: Even with Baker fumbling the ball all over the place,
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  Speaker 6: they were down two scores, but they made it a
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  Speaker 6: six-point game and lost by six. So, yeah, we probably, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: we're down there on the list of how we play.
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  Speaker 6: But I am looking at this like Drew Brees. Like,
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  Speaker 6: what did I think of this team coming into the season?
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta and Pittsburgh, I saw a number the other day.
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta and Pittsburgh played. Percentile-wise, one of the worst offensive
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  Speaker 3: combined games in the history of the league the other day.
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  Speaker 3: It was like in the bottom three of offensive game
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  Speaker 3: percentage-wise in NFL history.
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  Speaker 6: And pardon me if I don't think that's great defense, Bob.
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  Speaker 6: I think that might be crappy offense. Scott in Belmont says,
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  Speaker 6: Mac said he doesn't change predictions after one game. You
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  Speaker 6: change your prediction after the first day of camp.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking... Uh-oh. It's well played, sir. It's well played.
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  Speaker 2: Score one for Scottie and Belmont.
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  Speaker 4: Who would do such a thing? I'd change mine after FanFest.
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  Speaker 2: That is true.
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  Speaker 6: What I'm saying is— You'd change your picks more than
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  Speaker 6: your skibbies. I'm not changing my division winner prediction. I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to hold here. Well, hold on it, Boney. I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to stay strong. What are the texters saying, Bone Man?
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  Speaker 6: The 980 says Tomlin said the matchup was a problem
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  Speaker 6: for the Panthers. Yeah, I think there's going to be
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  Speaker 6: a bad matchup, to your point, for a lot of teams.
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  Speaker 2: The Bears play Minnesota this week. We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I'm interested to see, Mac, as we're watching the Panthers,
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  Speaker 3: and while the Bears are playing the Vikings, don't expect 59,
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  Speaker 3: but do the Bears also have a similar routing of
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  Speaker 3: the Vikings where they look unstoppable?
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 6: Interesting to see how that goes. That Vikings game might have– well,
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  Speaker 6: ours was probably the craziest of the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Who am I kidding?
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  Speaker 6: Ours was drunker than Fitty at the Coke 600. That's
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  Speaker 6: how drunk our game was.
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  Speaker 2: And I was drunk drunk.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, the Minnesota Green Bay game was crazy.
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  Speaker 6: 29 straight points by Minnesota. to end that game. Green
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  Speaker 6: Bay went for it on that fourth down, and Minnesota said,
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  Speaker 6: you will do nothing the rest of the way.
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  Speaker 2: That was with Carson Wentz in there.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Matt, speaking of our game, while that
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  Speaker 3: game was going on this weekend, Falcons and Panthers. Panthers
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  Speaker 3: are one and a half point favorites. Right now, 71%
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  Speaker 3: of the money is coming in on the Panthers. 81%
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  Speaker 3: of the spread money is on the Panthers to cover
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  Speaker 3: this one.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 6: How about that, baby? Our text line ain't betting. I
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  Speaker 6: can tell you that. well i will say that the
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  Speaker 6: seven o'clock texters aren't betting my god you guys are
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  Speaker 6: full of uh pea and vinegar all right that's that
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  Speaker 6: is the watered down family friendly version of that saying
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  Speaker 6: um uh this hour seems a little better this texter
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  Speaker 6: says uh carolina mike i agree the defense uh will
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  Speaker 6: come around, he says. But the same can't be said
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  Speaker 6: for the offense. The Bears' defense is not that good.
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  Speaker 6: All right, so he's a little positive, a little negative.
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  Speaker 6: Brian says, I've been saying it all summer on the
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  Speaker 6: text line. No one been listening to me. Bryce Young
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  Speaker 6: is breaking the heck out this season, and you saw
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  Speaker 6: it on Sunday. Yeah, I think we, I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember specifically his text, but I feel like
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  Speaker 6: we would like those texts. There's probably a lot of
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  Speaker 6: Panther fans skeptical. And I do understand what Carolina Mike's saying.
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  Speaker 2: This offense, I'm not locking it in bone.
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  Speaker 6: This is going to be a top five offense just
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  Speaker 6: because we're ranked fourth after, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 6: After this weekend, the bears defense is a bad one,
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  Speaker 6: but can we jump bone from like 28th to 15th
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  Speaker 6: on offense?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That would be a pretty
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  Speaker 2: big jump. 15 right now, Matt. They're in the top five.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to be reasonable. I'm trying not to knee
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  Speaker 6: jerk all the way up here. Look at the numbers.
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  Speaker 6: Can we play the Bears defense every week? Can we
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  Speaker 6: play other offenses but the Bears defense every week?
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to play that game ever again.
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  Speaker 3: All things considered here.
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  Speaker 6: No, team the Bears defense up with other offense. That's
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  Speaker 6: my humble suggestion. I've heard back from Roger Goodell. That's
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  Speaker 6: not how it works, he says.
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  Speaker 3: When we come back on the Mac and Bone Show,
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  Speaker 3: Adam Gold, what's he going to take away from that
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  Speaker 3: Panther performance? We'll also talk ACC football and more. Sports Radio,
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  Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: Too soon?
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  Speaker 6: Too soon in the week after Sunday to use the
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  Speaker 6: word happy?
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  Speaker 2: We're trying to be happy.
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  Speaker 6: Mack and Bone with you, trying to bring some cheer
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  Speaker 6: back into your hearts. I'm sure this won't get people mad.
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  Speaker 6: Coming up at 8.45, we have the discussion many of
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  Speaker 6: you are asking for on the text line. And unfortunately, Bone,
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  Speaker 6: in our two decades here, plus of.
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  Speaker 2: Being here, that we have had... Many times before. Bill
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  Speaker 2: Cowher coaching the team? No, not that one. Not that one.
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  Speaker 6: Why were there so many Bears fans in the stadium
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  Speaker 6: on Sunday for the season opener off a playoff appearance?
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  Speaker 6: And does it piss you off or are you over it?
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  Speaker 6: Are you over it? There's part of me that just
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  Speaker 6: wants to say, who cares? It happens all the time.
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  Speaker 6: But there's another part of me that was there at
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  Speaker 6: the doghouse seeing all these Bears fans that was at
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  Speaker 6: the stadium looking out and seeing all the dark blue
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  Speaker 6: and orange, and the timing of this bothers me so much, man.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little upset because usually we see it coming
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  Speaker 3: and we talk about it during the week. I was
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  Speaker 3: just so into it being week one. I thought the
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  Speaker 3: Panther fans would show out. I didn't really think of
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  Speaker 3: the Bears as being one of the more– prominent travel.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really think about any of that. I thought
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  Speaker 3: about the game. So usually we're ahead of that. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be ugly.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: It's the Cowboys. I didn't really factor the Bears into
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  Speaker 3: those teams, the Giants. I didn't really factor the Bears
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  Speaker 3: into that. I guess I should have. So I'm a
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  Speaker 3: little mad at myself that I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: See it coming. Oh, I don't think anybody else focused
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  Speaker 2: on it.
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  Speaker 6: KB and I both were kind of like, oh, shoot, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: we didn't really think about that fan base. Smoke brought
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  Speaker 6: up a good point about that. The Bears have not
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  Speaker 6: been here, Bone. The only time they have been here...
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  Speaker 6: in like the last 15 years is the COVID year.
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  Speaker 6: And there were only like 5,000 fans there at the game.
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  Speaker 6: So we hadn't really encountered the Bears fans since like 2012, maybe?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's part of it. Adam Goldmack will
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  Speaker 3: join us. He's going to join us at 825. So
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  Speaker 3: we've got a couple of minutes before the gold man
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  Speaker 3: joins us.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right. So we've got Goldie coming up, everybody.
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  Speaker 6: We've got plenty of talk, but we'll see what he
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  Speaker 6: thinks about the Bears defense and the Avero question. Like,
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  Speaker 6: we'll see where he stands. It seemed like on Twitter
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  Speaker 6: he might have been pointing out, hey, you're all going
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  Speaker 6: after Avero. What about the players on this team? So
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  Speaker 6: we'll ask him about that.
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  Speaker 3: Would you like Matt to have the conversation that Turd
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  Speaker 3: Ferguson wants us to have?
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  Speaker 2: What's that? What's that?
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  Speaker 3: Someone needs to be ready to have the conversation. What
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  Speaker 3: if Bryce has a great year and decides he no
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  Speaker 3: longer wants to be a Panther?
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  Speaker 6: Because of the constant disrespect. Yeah, I need to text
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  Speaker 6: him back. Don't worry. I don't care how disrespectful. First
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  Speaker 6: of all, I don't know why it's disrespect. Like, it's
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: not from the team. It was Bebop. He's going to
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  Speaker 6: say that Bebop guy's mean to me on the text line.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't signing in Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: Now we're worried that Bryce doesn't want to play for
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  Speaker 3: this middling franchise.
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  Speaker 2: No, don't do that. Let's get that out of here.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: If Bryce falls out, we're going to come to terms.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to work it out, man. no matter how
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  Speaker 6: annoying it is to live in the same city as Bebop.
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: A couple of things real quick. Jalen Coker had a boot.
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  Speaker 6: on one of his feet yesterday, said he rolled his
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  Speaker 6: ankle in the first quarter of the game. Now, that's
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  Speaker 6: not ideal, Bone. The good news is... He got better
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: after that rolled ankle. The good news is it didn't
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  Speaker 6: seem to bother him. It didn't sound like, roll that
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  Speaker 6: ankle every game.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Do a pregame.
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: Get in the pregame, roll that ankle. He seemed to indicate, hey,
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm going to be good to go this week,
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: but we'll monitor that. Also, Bone, I was asking you
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: during the break, How did the Panthers become favorites in
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: this game? Because it was my understanding that the Falcons
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: were favorites initially. And you were saying how much betting,
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: how much of the money early on is coming on Carolina.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: It appears that it has led to a line movement.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it opened plus one. The Panthers are plus one
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and a half. Now it's the Panthers favored by one
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: and a half. And it goes into the numbers that
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: I said there about how much of the, what did
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I say, 80, 81% of the Panthers Of the spread
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: monies on the Panthers?
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: I feel like that's people that are spotting a line
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: that's an overreaction. Like, you know what I mean? Like,
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: it almost feels like the Michigan game last week. And listen,
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: did I pick, was I smart enough to pick Michigan?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: I was not smart enough to see, okay, here's what's
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: going to happen. But I did, in the back of
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: my mind, wonder, could they come out and win this thing?
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: But there's this thing that happens, Bone, where we overreact
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: to what we just saw, right? And it feels like
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: that whole thing with the Falcons, Falcons going to beat
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: the Panthers. I would say not so fast, my friend.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: Let's not overreact to what we saw.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Sometimes Vegas takes a couple weeks to really catch up
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: to certain things. Happens in college all the time where
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: you'll see lines and think, wow, that doesn't make a
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: lot of sense. And then as the season goes along,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: they catch up. But Vegas takes a while at times
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: to figure things out as well.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: That's true, too.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Takes a while.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I don't blame Finney for that. I blame Adam Gold
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: for holding us off for three minutes. Because we're waiting
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: a while. I don't know about you, Bone, and I
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: don't know about the listeners. I can't hear anybody say,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Troy Aikman last night made a comment that it's been
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: a while for something.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I forget what it was.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: I can't hear anyone say it's been a while without
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: them blurting out, it's.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Been a while. It happens with KB and Smoke.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: KB and Smoke, when one of them says it or
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: a caller says it, they both hop in now.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: It's been a while. Smitty, or Smitty.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: Finney has trained us like we're all puppies or something, man.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: You ought to have him train Murphy. Matt keeps stalling.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: 827 for Adam Gold here.
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: What's Goldie up to? Is he spending some intimate time?
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: Is he in bed with the Stanley Cup right now?
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: What the hell is Goldie doing? He must be looking
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: at old Canes highlights. I'm not sure. He's ready to go, Finney,
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: when you want.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: To call him.
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: How close are we to that Canes-Panthers opener?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Two weeks?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Two weeks. I know I'm putting you on the spot.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I apologize. I think so.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I think September 30th might be opening.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: September 20th. Or not free season. I'm sorry.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: Pucks McClain ain't on his game yet, Boney. It's a
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: little early for Pucks McClain. September 29th. Much closer to
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: what you said than.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: What I said.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: The TNT opening doubleheader is on the 30th. I have
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to look at the cane zone. I'm on the spot here.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: It's September 29th.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Tuesday.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: There you go. I just told you that.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I was listening to make sure Fiddy had the gas.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: All right? It's been a while since Bones listened to me, Fiddy.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It's been a while.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: It's been a while.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I need a drink desperately. Why don't you talk to
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Adam Gold and I go to a pub? So I
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: was right.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: It's literally two weeks from today is when the season opens.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You were right, Mac. Yes. Everyone, Mac was right. Everybody,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Mac was right. What a damn smart ass. You're more
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: smart ass than Caleb Williams. I'd rather be a smart
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: ass than a dumb one.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Oh!
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not calling you that. I'm just saying me personally.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: It sounded like I was. No, I would never call
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: you that.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Anyway, I think Goldie will be proud of us for
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: sitting here two weeks before the Panther season opener, or
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: the Hurricane season opener. Well, I guess the Panther season opener, too,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: and talking Hurricanes hockey. Unfortunately, that will not continue now
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: because we've got football to talk about. We've got to
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: see what he thinks about that Panther defensive performance. How
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: about Carolina Clemson? That's a juicy one to talk about
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: with Goldie. Adam Gold, veteran, radio savant, 99.9, the fan
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: in Raleigh. And, of course, you can hear his show
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: weeknights here, 7 o'clock on WFNZ. Goldie, how you doing, man?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I am doing very well. We are two weeks from
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the hurricane season opener, and I'd rather talk about the Panthers'
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: offensive performance. That was good.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Well, let's start with that thing. I like the way
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: you're thinking, Goldie. Here I am being negative. The offense.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I can't help myself. 59 points, man.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: There's a lot to be negative about. But let's start
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: with the offense. Let's go there first. Bryce was tremendous.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: What did you think, Idzik? It's a pretty darn good
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: debut for Idzik's first game as a play caller. Do
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: you feel like they can keep that up or at
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: least something close to that up?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Bears are very good defensively, but
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that Carolina wasn't very good offensively. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: know we saw a lot of great things. My only
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: negatives on Bryce is that I thought he was probably
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: responsible for the couple of sacks that he took. Those
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: plays just took too long to develop. I think he
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: was looking for an escape route, which he's usually very
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: good at. But other than that, I mean, I mean,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that's an, it's an a performance. We needed to see
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that in the opener. We needed to see it in
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the first half. He was excellent in the first half,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: took some hits to make throws. He was accurate, like crazy.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The worst passing through was the first pass to Xavier Leggett,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: which was too low, but still should have been caught,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: but he isn't going to go anywhere with it. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it was really a price problem, but I mean, the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: ball has got to be caught. But I thought he
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: was awesome. I thought Jalen Coker was great. I thought
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the tight ends did really well. The only disappointing things
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for me were I thought Teneroa McMillan was not great.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And obviously XL unfortunately reminded us of last year.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: No doubt, man.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: What do you think is– how sustainable do you think
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: the offensive effort is to carry over? Was this a, hey,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: they played the Bears defense and it was a great
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: matchup for week one? Or did you see things in there, Goldie,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: that you said, you know what, I really think this
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: offense is moving forward?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, I definitely think the offense is going to be fine.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: As long as the line stays healthy. Look, we talked
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: about this. I am terrified of their lack of depth.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: The Brady Christensen hamstring injury that has him out, I mean,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that is depth at both tackles right now and both
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: guard positions, right? He is their number one lineman off
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the bench if they need to go to the bench.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And that is a little bit of a problem now
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: because he's out too. But if they stay healthy, then
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I think they'll be okay. I actually think they'll run
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the ball much better. I think they ran the ball okay.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but they just couldn't get to it because the pass
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was working and they had to keep up with Chicago.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So you just couldn't fall behind in that game. But
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I think the run game will get better, and I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: think their offense will get better because of it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Chuba averaged 4.9 yards a carry. I think it
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: was a pretty good start for him. Your point about
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: the depth of the O-line is a good one, though.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Without Brady Christensen, Bullock was the guard off the bench
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: when Lewis went down for two plays. Bullock had been
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: here for like 10 days at that point. That's not ideal.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: And then you have the whole thing of Stone Forsyth.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: You could be an injury way for him playing, so
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: I'm with you.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: On that.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: As far as the defense goes, Goldie, the hot button name,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: I'm sure you know, you, you know, you've talked about
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: it is a zero of arrow. I mean, people are
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: furious with him. Many say and fire them, even though
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: we're one week, week into the dang season. Like how much,
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: when you watch that defense, were you thinking, Oh, this
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: is coaching. And how much of you were, were you saying, Oh,
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: these players are not making plays.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: What'd you think?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Well, one could lead to the other. So I don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: want to completely remove the possibility that Evero or Averro,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I've probably been saying his name wrong for four years,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that Averro just isn't quite the communicator that he needs
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to be. I'm not suggesting that, but I don't want
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to completely discount it. But, man, that was a game
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of just, I thought, physical and mental mistakes from players.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many bad angles can Prince Lee Oman
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Mielin take to lose contain? You know, how many missed tackles...
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Speaker 3 and I mean, could you give up on
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the play on the Roma? Didn't they play down the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: right sideline? It's completely game.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: How brutal was that? No urgency to get back there.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: The blanket got treated like a throw rug. Yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And you know, people like they, people talk about, well,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: they spent $ 165 million in the off season addressing the defense. Okay. Yes,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: they did. I thought Jalen Phillips was good. I didn't
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: think he was great. I thought he made some plays. Uh,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, as much as I love the signing of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, uh, I don't think that's that game's going
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: on his highlight reel. I mean, he got, he got, uh,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: beat in the run game several times. He had some
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: good pressures up the middle, but it wasn't his finest.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: He got beat on the Cole commit touchdown where, I mean,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the pass was absolutely perfect, but he did get beat
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: on it. And I just thought he had an at best,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: an average game. Now that doesn't mean that, that, that
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: ever or Vero doesn't have something to do with it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think people were ready to,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Because the defense has been, at best, okay. I think
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: people were ready to pounce. I think it was more
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of a player issue. And Derrick Brown makes the two
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: most boneheaded plays of the game. I mean, if those
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: two plays, if he doesn't rough the passer, it's probably
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a field goal. So it's 34-31. And if he doesn't
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: jump offside, they survived the mistake.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yep, 100%.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Goldie, on the college front, how much of a chance
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: do you give the Heels in this all of a
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: sudden very interesting matchup against Clemson on Saturday? It's down
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: to a three-point line for Clemson at home in this matchup.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: That is staggering to me. I haven't even looked at
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the betting line yet. It's only three points. That is
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: such a slap in the face to Davo Sweeney. That
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Well, I mean, we watched Clemson struggle with
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. And now they're down to three.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And a half. It's three and a half. Sorry. Three
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: and a half.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Either way.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's, that's still stunning. Are you telling me
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that Carolina would be favored in Chapel Hill?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Get out of here.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Look, I mean, Clemson doesn't look like Clemson. I mean,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: they actually, they do. They look like Clemson from like
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the mid, let's say the early 90s, maybe. It is
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: just not a vintage Clemson team at all. And I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: think the most glaring thing for me is that they
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: just don't look as talented. Last year's team had tons
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of talent. They just stunk as a team. This year,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I don't see like they have some very good players,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: but man, they just look a step slow to me. Um,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: but I still don't think Carolina is that good. Uh, but, uh, man,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: this is what a comedy of errors this could be.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: This one's intriguing. There's no doubt about it. What do
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: you think about NC state? Like, I feel like the
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: proper approach to take is okay. 73 points on Richmond.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: You look like you came out and wanted to prove
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: something after the beat down to Virginia, uh, but go
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: prove really go prove something on the road against Vandy
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: this week. Is that like, is that the approach you take?
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: What's your feeling on NC state going into the Vandy game?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I just, I just don't know what we learn from
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a game like that against Richmond. I really don't. I mean,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to completely discount it because maybe the,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the guys games, you know, they, they kind of extract
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: some confidence from it because it did look like look
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: like they wanted it to look, they ran the ball
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: really well. Bailey was good. But I just, Richmond might stink.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: And then what are we, how do we, it's a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: practice to me. So, and I, I hate, I hate
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: these games because of it distorts. It distorts what we
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: think about these teams. All I'd like to see all
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: of these games. And I know there, nothing is perfect.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see all of these FCS games. as
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: pre-season games that don't count against your record, but you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: still play them. We'd still watch. If you played Richmond
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: at NC State on August 22nd, you know, before week zero,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: before week one, we'd watch. I mean, I'd watch it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: You'd watch it. Travis would watch it if, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he's not at the dog park. So why not?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, but I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't mind that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I would be preseason.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: I watched, Lord knows I watch way too much Panther
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: preseason way too intently.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Watch the Hall of Fame game.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Hey, America.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: American Droves watched that Haynes King performance, man. Seven million
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: plus viewers.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: All right. Those are the days, Bone. Haynes King. Those
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: are the days. Oh, way back when. Does he play defense?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I need to know. Probably. He probably does.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I would think.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Good point. Why am I doubting him? All right, Goldie.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: Great talking to you, brother. We will talk to you
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: next week. Appreciate it, man. Have a good week.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: You too, fellas. Take care. All right.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: There you go, Adam Gold. Remember, you can listen to
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: him here weeknights. His show re-airs here weeknights at 7
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: o'clock on WFNZ. The text line, very interesting dynamic on
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: the text line. The two fan bases came together, Bone,
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: to tell Goldie he doesn't know what he's talking about.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: It's Tar Heel fans that are like, bro, we are
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: more than deserving of being just a three-and-a-half point dog
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: at Clemson.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: You'll see.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: And a couple of Clemson fans that are like, dude, sorry,
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: I love Clemson, but we're terrible, Goldie.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Are you not watching us?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So that was interesting.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Goldie's always got some detractors there on the text line,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: but I don't think he really cares, to be honest
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: He doesn't care, and I don't think he's trying to.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Some people know on the radio, hey,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: I'm going to push this button, right? I'm going to
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: push this button, right? He's just on here saying he
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: doesn't think the Tar Heels are near Clemson.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I personally... believe they are very near Clemson.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Matt, before we go to the Fit Daddy with an update,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Tepper Sports and Entertainment put out a release today that
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: will interest some people. The Kenny Chesney, the original Vibe
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Room Tour, will be playing at the bank next August 21st.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: There you go. But it is Kenny Chesney, Eric Church,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and Sheryl Crow. That is a hell of a show.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: That's a show right there.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: They were saving this announcement for when the Panthers played
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: a horrible game.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: They said, crap, get that Chesney announcement out there.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: No shirt, no shoes, no defense. Now it's like his
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: own karaoke machine over here. I'm the king of laughing
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: at myself, by the way. All right, we need to
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: go to the man.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: That's sad. We need to go to the man we
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: once called the Fit Daddy.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Based off recent events, Mac, he's now known as the
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Love Daddy.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Finny Marwum. It's all right to be a little fitty.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: A little hometown or a big old city. Might as
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: well share, might as well smile. Life goes on for
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a little fitty while.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Bone.
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• 31:49
  Speaker 4: One final time, 704-334-9934. Two news items yesterday from the NBA.
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: That delayed Kawhi Leonard trade has now been completed. He
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: is heading back to Toronto after a successful run with
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: the Clippers. And Steve Ballmer and that Clippers franchise will
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: accept all the penalties handed down to them by the NBA.
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: They were prepared to lawyer up and fight the league.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: But Ballmer has now decided to accept the penalties to
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: his organization.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You said successful run. Was that a jest that you
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: say that?
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, they went to the Western Conference final.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: He cost them 12 first-round picks and $ 30 million in fines,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: the owner for a year, the GM for a year,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the president for a year. He averaged 47 games a year.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Will you define successful run, Finney, please? And he also
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: ran the landscaping company.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: That wasn't real.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Would you take that if the Hornets were involved in
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: such a deal? And they got to at least an
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: Eastern conference final.
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  Speaker 3: I don't, I think that, no, I don't think it's
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: worth all that. He 12 first rounders and total counting
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: the ones that are coming up, all the money you
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: got fined and the lack of success.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't, I don't think I would.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Hell no. Not for one, not for one appearance.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: They never won a seven game playoff series. You wouldn't
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: trade that to go to the Eastern conference.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You would trade 12 first rounders for that. Yes.
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: If I was a diehard Hornets fan, that's never seen
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: them win a best of seven playoff series. I.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: They've been in that play a decade. What's another 12 years?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: By the way, what are the Clippers going forward now
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: without all those draft picks and all their front office?
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: They were what they were in the 90s, an afterthought.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Was Kawhi not an underachiever with the Clippers?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: He played 47 games a year for seven years.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: That's what stars play in today's NBA.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: But he was injured, though. He wasn't just, like, load managing.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: He was less physically active than you, Fiddy. That says something.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: He played less than the Pandas defense. By the way,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: shout out Rod Boone, man. We're thinking of you.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I hate the fact that he got caught up in
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: the McClatchy company firings and layoffs. And how about the
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: fact the Charlotte Observer will not have a Hornets beat writer?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: That's sad.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: I hate it for Rod, and I hate it for
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: Hornets fans that aren't going to get regular coverage, man.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: People are now mocking Phitty's definition for success. Greg Oden
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: was a great player in the NBA. Poor Finney. When
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: we come back, there were a ton of Bears fans
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: at the bank on Sunday. Should that take us off,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: or are we now numb to this trend? Sports Radio 92.7.
• 34:52
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• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Mack and Bone with you.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: By the way, Dave Canales said something interesting on Panther
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Talk last night. Was asked about Jimmy Horn and the
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: punt return gig. Of course, he muffed that punt. The
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: banana punt, Bone, that they sent our way. Canales did
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: basically say, yeah, we got to reevaluate that spot. So
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: we'll see if they end up doing anything there. And
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: it has been noted in our studio, the symbolism of
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: this big sheet of paper that we have been had
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: hanging for months in here. That is the 10 wind
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: wagon names. It is like barely hanging on the wall
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: right now. It's very fitting.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: If one of us moves or Matt talks too loud,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to fall right off the wall.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: If Cooper Rush throws three touchdowns, that thing is going
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: to go right down. Oh, that would not happen. No, kids,
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: let's not joke. Let's not joke.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Bone, let's talk about that. We got so many texts
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: on this. I mean, it's it's.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: This is still bothering Panther fans, the fact that Bear
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: fans came in.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say took the joint over. I
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: still thought it was probably.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: 60, 40, 60, 5, 30, something like that. I mean,
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: it was still majority Panther fans, but man, it was
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: an alarming amount of Bears fans. And I'm asking the question,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: how much does that bother you? Or have you almost
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: like we got a guy here? I have to be honest, man.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: I used to rage over other fans coming to the stadium.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Tickets being sold by season ticket holders. I have just
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: come to deal with it. I'm not sure it's ever
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: going to change. This texter 704 number says the amount
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: of Bears fans at the stadium is was freaking bleep bleep.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: He says, get these bandwagon transplants back to the state
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: they came from and stop selling tickets because they don't
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: like the team. They like the social aspect of it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: You weren't dare bone, but I'm sure you, I'm sure
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: like how obvious was it on TV?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I've seen worse, but again, I wasn't really... There are
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: times when I focus on it more because it's a
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: storyline heading in. Like I said a few segments ago,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I wasn't really even... I was so focused on the
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: game itself, I didn't really think about to pay as
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: much attention to it as I normally did.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think I heard... You know, when the Eagles
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: come to town, you can hear the EAG... L.E.S.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: And you can hear some of those things. I didn't
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: really notice it as much on TV. The Green Bay
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: sucks at the end of the game was pretty loud. Now, granted,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I was watching with Tara and I was trying to
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: explain to her between plays that the defense is not
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: supposed to do that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: So I may have been distracted. Every play you were talking. Yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all could pick that up on TV.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Not as much.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: They did a Green Bay sucks chant while they're kicking
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: our ass. That's humiliating.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Like, seriously.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Like, you have beaten us so badly, you don't give
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: a crap about us, that you are now back to
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: your rival. And by the way, Green Bay went out
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: there in the second half the other day and said, yes, sir,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: we do suck, actually.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: But anyway, the thing that pissed.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: Me off about it— you' re right, I don't think a lot
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: of us thought about it or saw it coming— And
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: I think the reason I didn't see it coming, Bone,
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: was because we just went to the playoffs last year.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: We won a division title. It was our first playoff
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: appearance in almost a decade. We had an absolute blast
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: that night, even in defeat to the Rams. We had
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: an absolute blast as a fan base at the bank
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: that night. The bank was rocking.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: It was back.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: The sense of community that night among Panther fans was special.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: So pardon me if I thought maybe the very next
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: game in that stadium, y'all might show out better than that. Like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: I just, that just, it ticks me off. And I
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: realize a lot of it, Bone, is not our season
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: ticket holders. A lot of it is people that are
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: ticket brokers that buy the tickets and then sell them.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: I understand it. I got a texter that said the
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: age-old phrase, the age-old saying, Mac, Bears fans are willing
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: to pay mint for those tickets. It's the only one
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: I sold. It literally paid for my season tickets all year.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: We get this all the time. I had friends that
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: did this in Baltimore. It's kind of annoying. I just
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: understand it. But I'll be damned, couldn't we not get
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: a home opener the first game back after making.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The playoffs look better than that in our stadium?
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I trusted it, and I guess that's
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: a rule here. Never trust that the fan base either
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: won't show up or the Panther fans won't sell their
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: tickets to the opposing fans. Right. The problem, too, is
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: in this day and age, backers, the Panthers have not
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: been good for a while, so that's been a problem. Also,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the access to get tickets is not... so easy. There
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: are so many apps. We can name the three or
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: four ones that we know. There are so many apps
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: now to go in and say, give me tickets. And
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: it doesn't, you know, it's not like you can. It's
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: not as easy just to sell to say, I mean, yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I guess in your life, you can sell to people
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: that you know. But if you're going to put them
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: on an app or whatever, they're a free game for everybody.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Does Roaring Riot.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: Still do the service phone where they allow you to
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: sell to Panther fans? I'm not sure we have to ask.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: Because that's always been something. Carolina Huddle back in the
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: day would do that.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Because you go on these ticket apps, Matt.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: It's so easy to find opposing– freddie game you just
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: go get your tickets and away.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: You go now sweet cheek says i uh feel as
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: a psl owner we get blamed for other fans coming
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: this is 2026 fans travel also not all seats are
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: owned by a psl owner psl smith says nobody gives
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: a bleep if you've got your bleep paid for don't
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: sell tickets to a bleep to an effing transplant fan
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: you stupid effer Oh, man. PSL Smith coming in hot.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Not to be outdone, 980 number. If you can afford
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: to buy the PSLs and pay for the tickets up front,
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: I feel like you ain't hard up for money.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: 7-0-4-9-8-0.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Another texter says this now. Big old swing, Boney. Big
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: old swing.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Sorry.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Big old swing.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Excuse me?
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's the guy's name. One time for the one time.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: Big old swing. He says, Panther France, I don't really
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: know what I'm doing. I just knocked a 10-win express
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: off the wall. Why was I thrusting? I'm a weird
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: old man. That's two days in a row you've gone
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: into thrust mode.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Big old swing, baby. Yeah, baby. Can you just read
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the damn text?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, there's a text here. My God.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Can we just name guys like Fred and Bert instead of.
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: I would handle that better. I'm not mature enough to
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: handle big old swing. He says, Panthers need to play better.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: That'll solve the issue. That's definitely part of it. But
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: to our point, we were just in the playoffs last
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: year and the place was rocking with an overwhelming amount
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: of Panther fans. So you can pack that place for
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: a big game. There's no doubt about it. It rocked
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: for the Tampa game. It rocked for the Seahawks game.
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: Those fan bases didn't take over. I guess it's just,
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: this dude said it's just the passion of the Bears fans.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: They are willing to pay ridiculous prices. They are.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: But the season opener, that many of you? It's just
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: a buzzkill. It's disappointing. And I thought that we had
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: gotten past that. They're a playoff team. There's hope for
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: the franchise, and we're still dealing with it. There are
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: certain fan bases I understand it's always going to be
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: a problem. I didn't really count the Bears as one.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: I probably should have. But still, you would think that
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: we wouldn't be having this discussion at this point in
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: the season. considering the Panthers are on the climb up,
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: they're a playoff team, I didn't really concern myself too
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: much with thinking, oh, this is going to be the
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: same stuff that happened when they were putrid and terrible.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: You know, I get it. But week one, and against
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: a really good game against the Bears... We thought. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: thought that matchup would draw a lot of the fans in.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I'm confused by it. How about this? This guy's going
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: to make PSL Smith mad and maybe others. 980 number.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I'm a PSL owner.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: I sold my tickets to this game just because of
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: what Bears fans were willing to pay. They were desperate
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: to get into this game. And who's the winner? I've
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: got hundreds of dollars for those tickets, and I didn't
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: need to see that crap defense live. This guy not
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: only sold the tickets to Bears fans, he is now
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: throwing it in the face of the PSL owners that
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: had to sit there and watch the defense.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Bro, maybe just ease up a little bit on that tone.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: You can understand why Panther fans don't want, for the
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: season opener, this many enemy fans around them.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: This guy says we shouldn't sell to opposing fans or
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: let T-Bone in the stadium.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I wasn't to blame for this loss, all right? I
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: went there this time around. Can't hang this on you, man.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I tried, but I can't. Maybe you need me back
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: in there, all right? Let's not get crazy.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I'll be there for the Denver game, all right? We
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: sit there proud and happy.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: This dude, can we sell Levero's access to the stadium
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: to an opposing team fan?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Watch yourself, y'all.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: This guy says he sold his tickets to Sean McDermott.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: These people will not give up the Sean McDermott attempt.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: When we come back, John Talti, CBSSports.com and author of
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the new book out today about Wayne Kiffin, previews the
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: book and tells us how crazy the environment might be
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: for Ole Miss LSU on Saturday at Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.