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- 0:55Episode 127 news, views and management.
- 1:01We're going to get right into this.
- 1:02Start right off. Josh, how was your week?
- 1:05Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot and hot. Any more questions?
- 1:17I guess the the term hot as shit applies.
- 1:21Tuesday I walk out to my vehicle and I barely can breathe and I'm
- 1:28thinking Oh my God and I've still got a route to deliver.
- 1:32Yesterday I walked outside to load my vehicle and no joke I
- 1:39was pouring sweat. I had to wring out my shirt and
- 1:42I'm thinking, holy crap. I haven't even started the route
- 1:45yet. I've just loaded the van.
- 1:50Y'all please, like I keep saying, make sure you're
- 1:55hydrating. Start now while you're listening
- 1:58to this podcast, while we're recording, go grab you a drink.
- 2:03Not caffeinated. Make sure you get.
- 2:05Alcohol. Well, that's impossible for you,
- 2:08Bill. Wait your turn.
- 2:10OK. But in all seriousness, make
- 2:14sure you're hydrating. This weather kills people.
- 2:21I saw a thing on Sunday morning this morning on CBS.
- 2:27Aside from floods like the one in Texas this past week, and I'd
- 2:31like to send my thoughts and prayers to everybody involved
- 2:35down there. Aside from floods, heat is the
- 2:38second cause of death this time of year.
- 2:42That's horrible. I mean, it's bad enough that
- 2:45we're in easy bake ovens, but when you see pictures of
- 2:51carriers with the infrared thermometers 100 and 36147, I'm
- 2:56thinking if you put your foot where that exhaust is running,
- 3:00never mind you're in a vehicle, what happens if the rubber on
- 3:03your shoes starts getting tacky? I mean, y'all be careful, but my
- 3:11week was good. Amazon was just, well, Amazon.
- 3:17And it's probably going to continue throughout the week
- 3:20next week. But yeah, I mean, normal week at
- 3:25the post office. I actually found out from
- 3:30management that several RC AS and PTFS are going to be getting
- 3:34what I call Duck truck training and hopefully I can get some
- 3:40training too. I'm actually looking to train on
- 3:43the pro master and the two ton because I have a post office
- 3:46pick up on my route now and like tomorrow I'm pretty sure I'll
- 3:50have to have assistance because last Monday I had 7 or 8 carts
- 3:55and an RCAM. Management were gracious enough
- 3:58to help me by getting five of them otherwise I would have
- 4:01never gotten done and made the truck.
- 4:04So normal week at the post office for me.
- 4:06It's just it's hot. Y'all Bill, how was your week?
- 4:13Oh God, another, you know, stressful retired week with the
- 4:18grandson. This is my first first week solo
- 4:21with my grandson on Wednesday and we both survived.
- 4:26We we got thoroughly wet between the hose and the showers that we
- 4:31had here playing out in the back deck hot.
- 4:37You're right and and you know it's bad when you go outside and
- 4:40you take a breath of air and you feel the humidity going into
- 4:45your lungs. That is oppressive.
- 4:48I've always enjoyed the winter time because the Christmas keeps
- 4:51you awake and vibrant. Being cold never phased me.
- 4:55But he is is one of those things where oh, thank you.
- 4:58But then you know, if God wanted you to work in this weather, he
- 5:02wouldn't invented air conditioning.
- 5:04Of course, most of us, you know, have never known air conditioned
- 5:07vehicles in our lives. The the main part of my week in
- 5:13in regards to replying to people was basically in regards to what
- 5:18our topics will be tonight. And we'll, we'll get into them
- 5:22because it, it seems that management's just cracking down
- 5:26on in your yeah, rule carriers. And it's, it's just, you know,
- 5:34heartbreaking to see this. God, I wish I was in there to
- 5:37fight this stuff because I'd, I'd have a field day with these
- 5:41people. They're so stupid.
- 5:42But yeah, what are you going to do?
- 5:45It's it's what you have to deal with in regards to management.
- 5:50And you just go out, do your job, be professional, be
- 5:54efficient, be safe and get back, you know, and hopefully, you
- 5:59know, you every day. Yeah, when you get through
- 6:02there, there'll be less the stress.
- 6:04But God bless you people. I, I, I know what you're going
- 6:07through. And I, I, I pray for y'all.
- 6:13It's just sad. So except for raining every day
- 6:18during the week and this upcoming week, doing fine.
- 6:21Pennsylvania's out of the drought.
- 6:23The situation has been in for two years.
- 6:26And I'm sick and tired of damn rain.
- 6:30I don't have to bag up no damn boxes of dog food or anything
- 6:33like that. James, how about yourself?
- 6:38Well, just like everybody else, I've been in and out of heat and
- 6:44rain and heat and rain and heat and rain.
- 6:47And it's been, you know, about normal.
- 6:53No, parcels weren't too bad, especially with the week that
- 6:56we've had. But you brought up the heat.
- 7:01We've been bringing up the heat this entire time.
- 7:04I wanted to talk about something.
- 7:05I found out through a bunch of other people telling me what's
- 7:11happening around this country, their Mercedes mattress vans,
- 7:19air conditioning is going out. It's breaking and management's
- 7:26response is we don't have to fix it because you can still deliver
- 7:31with the vehicle. They're not going to fix the AC
- 7:35when it's broken. So even if we get these duck
- 7:38trucks with the AC in them, if it breaks, is management going
- 7:42to fix it or are they going to leave it alone?
- 7:44Because we could still deliver just like we do in the LLV and
- 7:48that's putting people at risk. Hold on, I'm not done yet.
- 7:55But that's the problem with using automotive AC in these in
- 8:01these vehicles too, is they're not designed for stop and go
- 8:05cooling. They're designed for traveling
- 8:09highway speeds, traveling around, you know, you even in
- 8:13your local driving where you're doing 2530 miles an hour in
- 8:17between traffic lights, that's still enough for the AC to work
- 8:20properly. But when you're sitting and
- 8:23idling and then going and then idling and then going and
- 8:25idling, it's not having enough time for that compressor to work
- 8:30properly. It needs enough RPMS to actually
- 8:33compress the AC refrigerant properly.
- 8:39And that's why they're failing. We have to figure something out
- 8:46because we can't keep going on with no AC anymore.
- 8:50Temperatures are higher than they have been in a lot of
- 8:53times. They cycle.
- 8:56You can take from that inference whatever you wish, but we got to
- 9:02do something to protect our people from this heat.
- 9:05As others I said, hydrating is one of the best ways to do it.
- 9:08Keep yourself full of fluid so you can sweat them out.
- 9:13But when it when you have it so humid out there that you're
- 9:16literally stopping wet just from the air, not even from your
- 9:20sweat, but from the air itself, it becomes a major problem.
- 9:25And that's where air conditioning comes in because it
- 9:28can cool the air, remove the moisture from the air so that
- 9:33way you can actually properly cool off.
- 9:37Go ahead, Josh. I am in receipt of some
- 9:41information about the duck trucks, specifically the E VS
- 9:45when the AC goes on the EV ones. The whole truck is dead because
- 9:52it can't. It can't cool the battery.
- 9:58Well now that just makes me want to have an electric one more
- 10:02than anything else. No, tell me you're lying.
- 10:11According to Facebook asterisk. Big asterisk, but that's what I
- 10:17saw. Oh my God, oh Lord.
- 10:29You can't make this shit up. No, no you can't.
- 10:33We don't have to. It writes itself.
- 10:36Exactly. You know, when I when I bought a
- 10:40Grand Caravan that uses the POV, the first thing I did was get an
- 10:44extra air conditioning, extra radiator unit for my air
- 10:49conditioning and my transmission cost me about $1100.
- 10:55Have both installed and somebody said, well, yeah, that's $1100
- 10:59you wasted a month later, a month later when their
- 11:03transmission went and they and the, you know, the mechanic told
- 11:07him what happened, He says, Oh no.
- 11:08He says, you know, the, the way you guys drive, you have to have
- 11:11an extra cooler on there. Yeah, well, you know, $3800
- 11:16later he wished he'd spent $1100.
- 11:20I mean, you know, if if you don't keep them vehicles, you
- 11:22know, in optimum condition and, and give them all the extra, you
- 11:26know, care they need, you know, like the extra cooling systems
- 11:29on there, they're going to let you down.
- 11:35That's an expensive lesson to learn, especially with the stop
- 11:39and go that, you know, if you're in a suburb, suburban rural
- 11:43area, you know, where you have a lot more stop and go or some of
- 11:46the truly rural areas, at least you get some speed up in between
- 11:50boxes. But yeah, the, the stop and go
- 11:54is killing you, killing you. And the other thing about the
- 11:57the duck trucks is the braking system that engages when you get
- 12:03too near something like a mailbox or a trash can next to
- 12:07the mailbox. I'm, I'm hearing, you know, some
- 12:11of the carriers are having real problems, you know, getting used
- 12:14to that as you approach a mailbox or a trash can near the
- 12:19mailbox, the truck is breaking itself.
- 12:26But Bill, I want you to be safe. Yeah, but you know with that
- 12:31auto braking in there, that's going to add time onto your your
- 12:365 speed matrix. Oh yeah.
- 12:45Their frequency my blood pressure and cholesterol
- 12:49medicine are both, you know, heat heat related too.
- 12:55Yep. So Speaking of on the road, on
- 13:00the road, it's been, it's been coming to our attention that
- 13:06management is now disciplining carriers for hitting already
- 13:12past address on the SPM scan. This has came to us from
- 13:17multiple different states, multiple different offices that
- 13:22carriers are being PDI and then disciplined for hitting already
- 13:28past address. Now I do know a little insider
- 13:34information on this and the reason management is upset in a
- 13:39lot of ways is because a new directive came down to
- 13:42management that if a carrier is hitting already past address,
- 13:48they have to 1st investigate the GPS location of when the SPM
- 13:54initiated on the scanner, where's the carrier clicked
- 14:00already passed address. And if the GPS is accurate to
- 14:05that location to the point they have to drive out there and do
- 14:10Agps audit at the location. And we all know management's
- 14:14lazy as I'll get out and doesn't want to go out there and do
- 14:18that. So the lazy ones are turning
- 14:20around and just doing discipline instead for carriers clicking
- 14:24already passed address even if they're being accurate on the
- 14:28SPM. Discuss guys.
- 14:33This is always been one of my favorites because of the fact
- 14:38that why are we doing SPMS on stuff that's been run through an
- 14:43automated DPS sorting machine? And since you have informed
- 14:48delivery, couldn't you see what was going there?
- 14:52But they're they're confirming that we're actually delivering
- 14:54it. Now I'm taking the mail home
- 14:56with me like that supervisor that had the drugs in the mail.
- 15:02This is a problem because of the fact that a lot of times people
- 15:07will will skip them because they want to go somewhere.
- 15:10They want to be somewhere. It's your duty to do the SPMS
- 15:14when you're at the mailbox. It is not your duty to remove
- 15:19the mail from the mailbox because you went half an inch
- 15:22forward and the SPM went off. Once you throw that mail, that
- 15:26mail is considered delivered and you're done with that box.
- 15:30Any good steward local area ADR will be able to fight that for
- 15:37you. The fact of the matter is that 9
- 15:40times out of 10, if your SPM goes off, you already have your
- 15:43foot off the brake, your foot on the gas and you're pulling away
- 15:47when it goes off. The the most horrendous
- 15:50situation I've heard this week was a supervisor requiring a
- 15:55carrier to go back out to the route after they return to the
- 15:59office. Do an SPM as we earlier had
- 16:03discussed. James, what if the customer
- 16:06already got the mail out of the mailbox?
- 16:08OK, so you just wasted the trip. Are you getting paid the three
- 16:12minutes a a mile for it? Because it's been, you know,
- 16:14authorized by the post, the supervisor or the postmaster to
- 16:18go back and do due diligence on something that really isn't
- 16:23going to change the world. The name asinity of management
- 16:32to sit there and accuse you of avoiding doing it.
- 16:35Like James said, without doing their due diligence of going out
- 16:39and checking the GPS Geo, what they call it Geo dots and where
- 16:43the mailbox is, that's on them. You know, if, if I got an SPM, I
- 16:49would, I'd do my SPM. Why?
- 16:51Because you know, I'm paid to do the SPMS.
- 16:55But if you do the S, if you get an SPM alert once you pass the
- 16:59mailbox, once you put the mail in the mailbox that that
- 17:03delivery is complete. I don't give a rat's ass where
- 17:07the SPM goes off. It's it's just another function
- 17:12of them harassing us. And I don't know what
- 17:16everybody's opinion is, but they've seemed to have stepped
- 17:19up to harassment in the last couple years, even more so in
- 17:24the last year in, in, in regards to disciplining.
- 17:27It's like they, the, we used to laugh how the police used to
- 17:30have a, a quota for speeding tickets or traffic stops, you
- 17:34know, and at the end of the month, the cops were more
- 17:36aggressive. It's almost like management has
- 17:39a quota to reach on discipline for the carriers, not to assist
- 17:45the carriers, but to punish them.
- 17:48And I, and I don't understand the mentality.
- 17:50And we all know where it's coming from.
- 17:55I would say that instead of having to scan or just beep
- 18:00randomly made you think about it from a new person's perspective
- 18:04and you hear that scanner beep. What's your instinct?
- 18:07Your instinct is to pick it up. What do you incur then?
- 18:11You incur distracted driving what it needs to do, and I know
- 18:15they can do this. It says, should say something
- 18:19along the lines of alert, you have an upcoming sampling
- 18:22request at this address. There you go.
- 18:27Nice and simple. Nobody needs to be picking up
- 18:31the scanner and driving distracted.
- 18:33It's simple, but do they do it? No.
- 18:37We were told in our office that we were to stop and go back and
- 18:44get them out-of-the-box. And I, I'm thinking, hold on.
- 18:48No, once I put that in there, that delivery is complete.
- 18:55No, I'm sorry, I'm not doing that because then to expand upon
- 19:00what you said, Bill, if they want us to get out, no, the
- 19:04customer we already collected, they may be right at their
- 19:06mailbox when you deliver also. That's putting me in an unsafe
- 19:10situation because I took park my vehicle per postal policy and I
- 19:15have to exit the vehicle. Never mind that it could be on a
- 19:18busy highway or a Backcountry Rd. where nobody's coming, but
- 19:21still you're outside of that vehicle and that puts you in the
- 19:24possibility of getting hit. It's like someone said, the
- 19:31certifies in the return receipts.
- 19:33They're in there. Those sampling should show up.
- 19:36It's not that hard to do if they could do it for stuff run on the
- 19:38machine like a certified or return receipt.
- 19:41What's the rest of our mail run on?
- 19:42Oh yeah, I forgot it's run on automated equipment.
- 19:47Everything is run on automated equipment it seems nowadays,
- 19:50except for clerk sorted mail, which even then that's probably
- 19:53been run. But the only thing that really
- 19:55isn't run is the bundled flats. And somehow I don't know if this
- 20:00is true for y'all. My informed delivery knows when
- 20:03I'm getting certain magazines and marketing mail.
- 20:13Yeah, it could be easy. It could be this could be easily
- 20:17solved. Yes, city carrier, city carriers
- 20:20know every SPM they're going to have at the beginning of the
- 20:23day. Why can't rural carriers have
- 20:26something like the certified mails that we have now, where it
- 20:30lists what certified we have in our DPS, which proves they know
- 20:34what's in the DPS come into our office.
- 20:38Why can't they put so many SPMS and list the addresses that
- 20:42they're at? We can't skip to them.
- 20:45We can't fill them out before we get there, but at least we know,
- 20:48hey, pause for a second at this address, you have an SPM there.
- 20:54That would give us time to actually do the SPM, complete
- 20:58the SPM. We know it's coming and it makes
- 21:01it so much easier. And if, if you guys really want
- 21:05to think about it, you can look at them during loading time in
- 21:10the morning. So that way you're getting
- 21:13credit for it in Rex that you've, you're looking at your
- 21:16SPM. So that way you know what's
- 21:19coming down the route. If management would actually get
- 21:23their head out of their backside and think of what would make
- 21:26this job easier for these carriers, it it's easily
- 21:31solvable. Well, James, not even easier.
- 21:35How about better informed? How about my my office where I
- 21:40have your carriers calling up? I'm getting an I and I because I
- 21:43didn't hold the customers mail. Did you get the hold notice?
- 21:46No OK, you know I'm getting an I and I for, you know, not
- 21:50forwarding mail. Did you get the cola label?
- 21:53No, and then you know they go back to management and ask them
- 21:56and print them off and 14 print offer for their damn route.
- 22:01It's like are are like you said, get off your damn ass and do
- 22:05your job. I mean, most carriers that
- 22:09haven't established a route know their people well enough.
- 22:13And if they don't, they ought to start.
- 22:15I would say if you're going away, put a copy your, your
- 22:19forward notice or your whole notice in the mailbox.
- 22:21For me, I said, I can't trust, you know, management to give it
- 22:25to me in a timely fashion. And they would.
- 22:29And then, you know, there's phone numbers on there and I
- 22:31would make sure you're you're coming back tomorrow so I can
- 22:33drop off the mail. OK.
- 22:35I, I'm doing that on my own time, but that's part of my
- 22:38customer service. That's the way I always handled
- 22:42my customers because we're here to serve them.
- 22:46And yet management does nothing to assist us in providing that
- 22:50service. Well, I'm going to say this
- 22:53about the SPM allegedly. Allegedly, when we're delivering
- 22:58parcels to that mailbox, we should be collecting a map spot,
- 23:03right? I mean, assuming you're
- 23:07delivering that parcel correctly, when you hit the
- 23:09mailbox, not literally hit, but figuratively hit that mailbox to
- 23:13place that parcel in there and you scan it and it makes that
- 23:16beep. I've been led to believe that
- 23:19the GPS coordinates are collected.
- 23:21So if you're doing that, why in the world is it showing
- 23:24mailboxes AS4600 feet off when you're sitting there and it most
- 23:29its arm's length away? Come on now.
- 23:36Hey, we, we had that problem years ago when they first
- 23:39started doing this. And I have a certified says I'm
- 23:43385 feet away from the residence.
- 23:46I'm staying at the front door. Yeah, what?
- 23:53I mean, they, they've gotten a little better, but you know,
- 23:56even still you, you still have malfunctions and it, it may be,
- 24:00you know, your in your DPM, you know, it may be that your, your
- 24:04dismounts and all are not correct or they're missing even
- 24:10that. So, you know, make sure you go
- 24:13in and do your monthly DPM and LTM.
- 24:18Remember, get that on, you know, and the shift duty too, but.
- 24:28Even if you don't do your DPM and LTM religiously, if that
- 24:32scanner is to be believed, if it's so accurate, in all honesty
- 24:38you shouldn't have to do your DPM and LTM except maybe a few
- 24:42times a year because if it's collecting map spots.
- 24:47I mean I've seen the lost the package that was delivered to
- 24:51the wrong address and I had to go look for it.
- 24:53It was right on the money. It was within 2 feet.
- 24:59At least the carrier scanned it where he so they delivered it.
- 25:04Yeah. Speaking of end of shift duties,
- 25:11as we Segway again, management is bringing back a bane to city
- 25:20carrier and rural carriers. They're bringing back the red
- 25:24line policy of you cannot pass this red line until we inspect
- 25:29everything you've brought back. Bill, you, you brought this up
- 25:34to me when we discussed prior to the episode.
- 25:37So you take the lead on this one.
- 25:40This is one of my favorite policies because it has nothing
- 25:44to do with rural carriers. It's it's a city carrier and
- 25:48they're trying to roll it over into the rule craft.
- 25:53The, the first problem we we had at RSD and C is that there's not
- 25:58enough people on duty at the end of the day to enforce it.
- 26:03The second of all, favoritism plays into the regards of how
- 26:08it's actually the justices dispensed in enforcing the red
- 26:12line policy. This red line policy, Yeah.
- 26:18And, and to me, this, this is just more micromanaging than
- 26:24anything else is a bane because of the fact that all it's doing
- 26:29is adding time onto carriers for rule carriers, like I said, it
- 26:35doesn't pertain to us. So you just fight it.
- 26:36You, you go to your newly elected union representative and
- 26:40fight it. OK, But for the city carriers,
- 26:44when you're in ASDNC and you have two supervisors on duty
- 26:49handling the the city carrier craft, they've got lines backed
- 26:55up like you were at Costco trying to get through that
- 26:59process. At the end of the day, how much
- 27:02money is that costing you? How how hard is it for you to
- 27:07examine their hamper that they're pushing your cars in
- 27:10with their empty equipment and everything to, to see what they
- 27:13have and you know, yay or nay or whatever.
- 27:16I've never watched their actual process.
- 27:19But the fact of the matter is you're costing the company
- 27:22money. Again, anybody in the rule craft
- 27:29that gets directed at a red line policy should immediately ask
- 27:36for it in black and white. If they don't provide it, then
- 27:39you ask for them to give you a handwritten signed statement at
- 27:46this policy is inclusive of the rule craft.
- 27:51Then you proceed to obey their instructions and then you go
- 27:55home and you call your local union representative.
- 27:59But it ended this crap before it starts.
- 28:04It's we are entrusted with people's checks or Social
- 28:08Security checks, Medicare, medicine, vital medicines.
- 28:13For a lot of people there, there are goods that they buy from
- 28:17Amazon, from Walmart, from Target.
- 28:20We're entrusted with some of the most pertinent and personal
- 28:23information they have, and yet we're treated like raised school
- 28:28children when it comes to the end of the day to see what we're
- 28:32bringing back. Are there people who abuse the
- 28:35system? Yes, and you should know who
- 28:37they are if you're a good supervisor or manager.
- 28:41But 99% of the craft are honest, legitimate employees who care
- 28:48about doing their jobs the right way every day.
- 28:53So you want me to cross a red line?
- 28:56I would. And I would cross it to come
- 28:58right at you because I wouldn't tolerate this shit.
- 29:02And I know it's easy for me to say I'm retired, but that's the
- 29:05way I'd handle it. When they first tried to instill
- 29:07it at the Westchester and I crossed the line and surprised
- 29:11like no, you have to wait there. And I said no, I don't.
- 29:14I'm giving you an order. I says I don't care.
- 29:17That's a city rule. It's not a rule.
- 29:18Craft rule. Well, I'm going to write you up.
- 29:22Threw him a pen. I start writing, went to my
- 29:25case, took care of my stuff, signed out and went home.
- 29:28You know what happened? Not a damn thing.
- 29:32Not because, you know, I'm Bill May and I know the rules better
- 29:35than they did, but because they actually looked into it and
- 29:39said, oh, Oh yeah, this isn't for rural crap.
- 29:42It's for city carriers. And you're the same rule.
- 29:45That rule's better than them. Yes, it is.
- 29:50It's the same way when they mandated regulars to work on a
- 29:53Sunday, came by with with printed sheets with our names on
- 29:56there mandating us to work Sundays.
- 30:00This was a Friday afternoon. I turned around, went to the
- 30:03postmaster and said, yo, here you go.
- 30:05I got a copy and I said, you know, we'd be getting the
- 30:07grievance on Monday for this. He goes, well if you're not
- 30:11here, you're going to be written up.
- 30:12I said have fun. By Saturday afternoon we all had
- 30:17notes on our case and saying, oh, this was a, a sample thing
- 30:21that we printed out for the city carriers.
- 30:22It wasn't meant for rule carriers.
- 30:24Well, I, I had already made two phone calls that day and got
- 30:27that, you know, shit got down. If you, if you act quickly
- 30:31enough, you can get things resolved.
- 30:34Sometimes it doesn't have to go to griefs.
- 30:36My problem is the fact that you started this whole situation by
- 30:40not knowing your own damn rules and contracts.
- 30:47Interim. The easiest question you can ask
- 30:50management over that is can you show me where the red line
- 30:53policy is in the PO6O3 return to office duties for rural
- 30:57carriers? It's not listed anywhere there.
- 31:00In fact, everything that's listed in there says we go back
- 31:03to our case and do all the stuff you want to do with the red line
- 31:07policy, Josh. Ask for it in writing.
- 31:18I got nothing. You got nothing.
- 31:22I got nothing. I got I got one more item for us
- 31:30the the the ran on James. Well, let's let's Josh, do you
- 31:34have anything you want to ran on 1st because I know what Bill
- 31:36wants to ran on all. Right, I'm going to ran.
- 31:41All right, here's the deal. It's very simple.
- 31:45It's not your vehicle. I get it.
- 31:48These vehicles can't be shitty. I get it.
- 31:53Please drive a postal vehicle like you would want your vehicle
- 31:58driven. We're not doing 100 plus mph as
- 32:03like that one carrier did in the mattress, which I'm surprised
- 32:06that Mercedes held together, but I digress.
- 32:12I am sick and tired of coming back for my day off or when I
- 32:18have to take care of business outside of the post office and
- 32:21seeing new dents on my vehicle or other vehicles.
- 32:26My vehicle, the left sliding door, my mattress looks like
- 32:30someone I don't know what the hell they hit.
- 32:34And they're saying that if we damage our vehicles, if we
- 32:38reckon you, you will recall two weeks ago or one week ago, I
- 32:43forget, I'm getting old. We had Arca that was in a wreck,
- 32:49totaled our mattress. They're saying that, well, that
- 32:54you may have to start using your own vehicles.
- 32:57OK y'all, here's the here's the deal.
- 33:03Don't drive it like you stole it.
- 33:05Show some respect to these vehicles.
- 33:07Yes, we rag on management all the time, but we're lucky enough
- 33:11some of us to have vehicles provided by the post office.
- 33:14Thank God. Because if you've looked at the
- 33:16price of new vehicles or old vehicles lately, they're
- 33:22expensive and they can't hold near as what these mattresses
- 33:27can. I know a Jeep Wrangler can't
- 33:29hold damn 1/3 of what a mattress can.
- 33:36Drive them safe and sane. Be aware that yes, the doors do
- 33:42open. These mattresses while they
- 33:45turn, well, they're big. I'll tell you this, if I get a
- 33:50duck truck put on my route, I may just have to make everyone
- 33:54aware. Look, this is a brand new
- 33:56vehicle. Yes, we make fun of it as goofy
- 33:58looking ha ha. Looks like it's made by Pixar,
- 34:01but what does that reflect on us when we're driving a vehicle
- 34:05down the road that looks like it has been ratted out, trashed
- 34:09out. It's got paint from hitting
- 34:13parking bollards and God knows what else.
- 34:16There scratches all down it, and then the scratches go down to
- 34:19the paint. Then it starts to rust.
- 34:21What does that make us look like?
- 34:24I understand we're rural carriers and we get dirty and
- 34:27all that, but come on, folks, let's be professional.
- 34:31It's it's not that hard. So if you're one of those that
- 34:35drives a mattress like a maniac, stop it.
- 34:41If you're somebody who struggles to maintain control of a vehicle
- 34:45because, well, you're driving skills aren't 100%, you need to
- 34:50learn to drive. I'm sorry, it's I don't want to
- 34:54have the possibility of me providing a vehicle because
- 34:58somebody wrecked my mattress and they can't get a new one.
- 35:02And they say, well, Josh, you may have to provide a vehicle.
- 35:04And I'm going to start laughing and they'll say what's what's
- 35:06wrong? I said, wait a minute, you put a
- 35:09post office pickup on my route. Yes, we did.
- 35:12OK. The only thing I can buy to
- 35:15service that pickup on any regular day is like a Ford
- 35:20Transit extended wheelbase or something big like a promaster.
- 35:25But they don't come in right hand drive so I can't deliver
- 35:28mail out of that. So again, if you're driving like
- 35:34an idiot, stop. This goes for fueling a vehicle
- 35:41Sunday. Yes I get it.
- 35:43I saw my carrier today, she had over 100 stops in her truck.
- 35:49But take the time to fill it up. End of rant, Bill James go.
- 35:57Well, let me go on that for you. Yeah, I'll tag on to that.
- 36:01You know my LV, it's a 1990. LOVI know the year of it.
- 36:08Yes. One day I came back and the
- 36:13little corner that sticks out in the wheel well from in front of
- 36:17the door there was bent in. I immediately told management,
- 36:22hey, this wasn't like that. When I left, it turned out that
- 36:25the RCA, who no longer works for the Postal Service had taken the
- 36:33off road path to go to a house and hit a giant rock in the road
- 36:41and vent it in. And you know, I took take pride
- 36:47in my truck. Yes, I have a, I have over half
- 36:50my section is dirt roads and my truck is dirty from dirt roads.
- 36:57But I try to take care of it because guess what, there aren't
- 37:01a lot of vehicles available and the ones that they bring to
- 37:05replace them while they're working on trucks are in worse
- 37:08condition than the other vehicles that we have.
- 37:11So we pride ourselves in my office of taking care of our
- 37:15trucks and keeping our trucks running because you're going to
- 37:19get something that doesn't work right just from the VMS.
- 37:26And as somebody else pointed out in our chat, I'm going to bring
- 37:29this up. I had this discussion with John
- 37:31Adams myself. When a route is assigned, a
- 37:37government vehicle management is required to provide a vehicle to
- 37:45that route. You can volunteer to use your
- 37:50personal vehicle to deliver, but you are not required to and
- 37:55should management fail to provide a government vehicle to
- 38:00the assigned carrier of the day, that means either the regular or
- 38:08the RCA. Then that regular or RCA is paid
- 38:16the route evaluation and management has to find an RCA
- 38:22with a vehicle to deliver that route.
- 38:25You are not required to provide it if you are the assigned
- 38:29carrier of that route. So management threatening, oh
- 38:36you're going to have to have APOV on that route.
- 38:39That's not going to work either because once the government
- 38:42vehicle is assigned they are required to use APOV or use a
- 38:49government vehicle and unless there's not one available and
- 38:55they're not willing to pay O time then they have to pay you
- 38:57the evaluation. Don't let them fool you.
- 39:02Unless the route is unencumbered, it means nobody's
- 39:06assigned to that route. They cannot take away the
- 39:12government vehicle from that route without mutual agreement
- 39:19with the carrier assigned to the route.
- 39:24Don't let them fool you, Bill. Your turn.
- 39:31On on this or on on the next rant?
- 39:37You know you're right. It's one of those situations
- 39:42where a supervisor will come over to a sub and take their
- 39:48vehicle off of them to give them to a regular.
- 39:53And I would sit back and say, I'm sorry, the vehicle's
- 39:55assigned to the route, not to, you know, the office per SE,
- 40:00even though the route's in the office.
- 40:02Well, we, we don't want the, the regular to have to wait.
- 40:05Well, you know. Financially, yes, you do,
- 40:08because the regulars are getting paid evaluated and if they're
- 40:10under, you know, 56 hours per week, you're you're in the
- 40:13clear. In the meantime, you're going to
- 40:15be paying the sub overtime. Well, it's our decision.
- 40:19OK, go ahead. You know, and I, and I would
- 40:22turn around if the sub was over 90 days, I would, you know,
- 40:26explain to them how to file a grievance for that.
- 40:29And they, you know, would look at me and I'd say, well, you
- 40:32know, it's, it's not that you're just getting paid for the time
- 40:34you're waiting, but we're going to get a financial penalty on
- 40:37top of that. They're like, well, how much?
- 40:39I said, how much you want to go for?
- 40:41The old guy said to me, $500. I said, fine, we'll go for $500.
- 40:45We settled for 2:50. And he, he just about shit
- 40:50himself saying, well, how can you do that?
- 40:52I said, they violated the contract.
- 40:55And if you don't give them permission, you know, he said,
- 40:59well, I thought I had to because I'm not a regular.
- 41:02It has nothing to do with it. It's called the contract.
- 41:05You have to follow the contract. Everybody does.
- 41:10Yeah. If you want to go turn around
- 41:12and do that, good luck collecting your EMA because
- 41:15payroll has enough problems paying your regular paycheck.
- 41:19You're overtime helping on other routes let alone paying you EM
- 41:24EE MA on a government route. Government vehicle route.
- 41:29So don't surrender the vehicle and they can't take it off of
- 41:34you if they want to and and force you to.
- 41:37Then you file a second grievance and this is for harassment.
- 41:43I would say that because of the fact that they are threatening
- 41:46you with the removal of your vehicle against your will,
- 41:51that's harassment. I'd file one for your find one
- 41:57for them being ugly too, just just to piss them off.
- 42:01And and James, don't let that don't laugh.
- 42:04I inadvertently put a fake grievance in like that and
- 42:06forgot to pull it and the postmaster almost pissed himself
- 42:10reading it. Yeah, but we're also missing
- 42:15another another factor in these grievances and using a POV in
- 42:22the route, you're not getting proper credit for the route even
- 42:27if they pay you the EMA because there's a different credit for
- 42:31DPS on APOV route. It's it's slightly higher for
- 42:38APOV route than it is for a government route.
- 42:40So they're still short changing the carrier James that went away
- 42:45with Rex. It's the same standards whether
- 42:48it's POV or government vehicle for DPS now.
- 42:53OK you can edit that out then. I I thought it was.
- 43:00Did you? Yeah, Did you?
- 43:02Was that God? Yeah, it was God, but you know,
- 43:10PO VS you know, those, those guys, you're right, cars are
- 43:15expensive. I mean even looking for a
- 43:16vehicle that is for your own personal use these days is even
- 43:23more expensive now than it was ever before.
- 43:26So trying to find one that you could even convert to right hand
- 43:30Dr. Granted we got a great credit in our contract
- 43:36supposedly, but that doesn't cover the inflation of vehicle
- 43:42prices. You know back in the 1990s you
- 43:45could find a car for 100 bucks that you could fix up in your
- 43:49backyard and run the route with. Now you can't find one for 10
- 43:54grand that you can fix up and run your route, let alone get a
- 43:59credit for it through the contract.
- 44:05What? What's that?
- 44:051500 now for a used vehicle. Yes.
- 44:10At at least yeah. Oh yeah, the credit 1500.
- 44:15Yes, and it's 3000 for a new vehicle.
- 44:21Yep, yeah. And and this is what hurts, you
- 44:24know, in the POV aspect of the business because of the price of
- 44:29new vehicles being so high anymore.
- 44:32That's driven up the price of used cars because there's such a
- 44:35demand for people to be able to buy affordable transportation.
- 44:40And as we get further along in the next 10 plus years,
- 44:46repairing APOV is going to be more costly because of all the
- 44:49added safeties on these vehicles, you know, your
- 44:53collision alerts and everything else.
- 44:55And if you hit something with your POV that has these systems
- 45:00in there, it can cost you thousands extra to have them
- 45:04repaired if you're at fault. So, you know, I, I guess that's
- 45:10the, the line of reasoning for holding on to 35 year old LL VS
- 45:15Yeah, because you, you can hit and get without having to repair
- 45:18anything except for the smudge on the bumper.
- 45:21But it's going to get to the point where you know it's going
- 45:24to get too costly to main up POV on routes.
- 45:30And also what we're delivering so many packages.
- 45:32I mean, like I said, how much can you fit in a four door Jeep
- 45:37Wrangler nowadays? Not much.
- 45:39You get two or three big boxes of dog food, that's it.
- 45:44And. There's some.
- 45:47Go ahead. Go ahead.
- 45:48You go ahead. There's some, there's some
- 45:49places where you need an out and out four wheel drive.
- 45:54I mean, like, I don't know, West Virginia, the Rocky Mountains,
- 45:59out in Montana, Wyoming, you name it.
- 46:02And then there's when I have my right hand drive Jeep, I kind of
- 46:06felt sorry for it because yes, it was right hand drive.
- 46:09It was 4 wheel drive. I put that thing in 4 wheel
- 46:11drive maybe four times in the five years that I owned it.
- 46:17I mean, it was very few and far between, but there's some routes
- 46:23where that's the only thing that will work is something that is a
- 46:284 wheel drive, but you can't put as much in it.
- 46:33I'd love for them to put an in GDV on those routes.
- 46:37Well, with with the latest row route optimization system,
- 46:40you're going to have to be fording rivers and going through
- 46:43people's backyards. You're going to need 4 wheel
- 46:44drive. Might as well.
- 46:47Might as well put a a a a cow catcher on the front.
- 46:55Yeah, it it's funny, you see these pictures where people have
- 46:58got people racks on their roofs filled with parcels and yeah,
- 47:02they're using the spider bungee cords to hold them on there.
- 47:05Or the, the one guy in the Facebook post, he had stuff
- 47:10hanging out of the trunk, the trunk lid bungee corded down on
- 47:14the parcel to hold it in place and then more parcels on top of
- 47:18the trunk lid against his back windshield.
- 47:21And those were bungee corded in place.
- 47:23I'm like, son, you need to get a bigger vehicle.
- 47:29It it's like a. Ridiculous Cadillac.
- 47:32Yes, I love that from a Funeral Home.
- 47:37There was one in Wisconsin. I shit you not, y'all, the
- 47:41license plate said. Dead letter.
- 47:44Yep, that was made its way around Facebook multiple times.
- 47:51I thought that dead letters went to Atlanta.
- 47:55Ha ha ha. That's where all male goes to
- 47:57die. Atlanta Palmetto.
- 48:04And. Same neighborhood.
- 48:06Yeah, same neighborhood. Did you see that picture of down
- 48:10there where they were sorting the parcels?
- 48:14All these spurs were all over the floor.
- 48:16Yep. I'm sitting there going, Nah,
- 48:19that's not a safety hazard. Yeah, that's not another black
- 48:22eye for the Postal Service. Oh, hold on.
- 48:26A black eye. Hold on.
- 48:29I, yeah, I know you all see the different platforms on Facebook.
- 48:33Well, what's the OIG doing about these fake stamps?
- 48:36They're up for sale on on Facebook.
- 48:38OK, I've reported those about five times and they keep
- 48:41Facebook keeps saying that they're legit.
- 48:45Facebook don't know. Yeah, no shit.
- 48:51I mean, you know, I actually reported to the OIG 3 years ago
- 48:55and heard nothing back and here they are.
- 48:58The price of stamps are going up.
- 48:59So now they're going out and having sales.
- 49:01Now I'm just, you know, folks, you know, that's our income and
- 49:08they're close, but they don't have all the attributes of our
- 49:11stamps. I know that our stamps have a
- 49:20fluorescent or phosphorescent or whatever essent dye that if you
- 49:25hold them under a lamp, they'll illuminate.
- 49:27That's how those machines pick them up.
- 49:30These I guarantee don't and well, I mean you can't make this
- 49:38shit up y'all? No, you're Nope.
- 49:44Speaking of, you can't make stuff up, Bill, go ahead.
- 49:47All right, I, I have struck again in regards to a post that
- 49:54I put up and it's in relation to our latest magazine where our
- 50:00president of the NRLCA, Don Matson is celebrating,
- 50:04celebrating a ratified contract, fighting for hard earned
- 50:09benefits. Thank God I was on the toilet
- 50:14because you know, I, I was laughing my ass off and Lisa
- 50:17toilet caught it. Don Matson says, you know, we
- 50:21have this celebrating a contract ratification with significant
- 50:25achievements. This is in the magazine word for
- 50:28word meaningful wage increases. I put not reduces 30 weeks off
- 50:34of Table 2. City carriers got steps, not
- 50:37weeks removed. Significant gains for Rcas and
- 50:41Arcs, but not according to the latest cost of living data, let
- 50:45alone inflation. And supposedly only six out of
- 50:50the hundreds of recommended voted on resolutions were
- 50:55presented for contract consideration.
- 50:58If we worked our asses off to get them passed at our state
- 51:01board levels and pushed up the national.
- 51:04These are representatives that you voted for last year.
- 51:07And, and everybody listening and everybody that will listen to
- 51:11the, to the podcast when it's posted, talk to your delegates
- 51:16and ask them, why are we paying these people $190,000 a year?
- 51:20Plus they live in $800,000 homes.
- 51:24And if some gentleman retorted to me, well, it's an investment
- 51:28because then they've gone up in value.
- 51:31So does your own home, OK, it goes up in value.
- 51:34But the fact that we're providing these homes free with
- 51:37no utility car charges, no Internet, no gas, no trash
- 51:42pickup, no sewer and water, they're getting everything paid
- 51:46for on top of their salary. These are the people you voted
- 51:50for last year. They don't care about you.
- 51:54There's not a sniff of two year career status as the APW has
- 51:58just passed. We did not eliminate Table 2 as
- 52:01Don stated last year in the magazine when he promised
- 52:05significant wage increases. And let me tell you something,
- 52:09I'm sick and tired of seeing Don Madison at these rallies.
- 52:14It's nice to get your face out there, get your ass back in the
- 52:18office and start working for the craft.
- 52:22Better yet, go out in the field and see the craft.
- 52:26Talk to the craft, Become engaged with the craft, the
- 52:30people who are paying. You don't want to see your smug
- 52:33face on another damn magazine at a rally touting our unity.
- 52:40The only thing in unifying our unions is 1.31.41.5.
- 52:47And the NALC and APW came out ahead of us again.
- 52:53So kiss my Lily white Irish ass. Rant done over mic drop.
- 53:04Yeah, your thoughts, I don't. Know it's an even 3 for three. 3
- 53:16for 3W. ALC 1.31.41.5 now is the time I
- 53:33I'm I think I'm going to become known as the election slash
- 53:36membership guy here. Now is the time to motivate,
- 53:44educate and recruit people to join the union.
- 53:48It's always the time, but now's the time.
- 53:53Get your people to vote. Get people engaged.
- 53:59Invite the person in your office that's never been to a district
- 54:03meeting to come to a district meeting.
- 54:07Invite people to show up to the state convention as a guest to
- 54:15see how it goes. I've, I've heard for too long I
- 54:20was warned about this union or what does the union do for me?
- 54:25Well, what Bill said, our leadership's not putting a good
- 54:32face forward. We need to change that.
- 54:36The national board is only as powerful as we want them to be.
- 54:39We have the authority to change it.
- 54:42I would ask a question of the potential president of the
- 54:45NRLCA. May I address you, Mr. Brennan?
- 54:49Go ahead. All right, as president, what is
- 54:52your what is your strategy for recruiting new members to the
- 54:58NRLCA? In person, face to face, getting
- 55:05people out there talking to these people in these offices
- 55:09because it's high time that these carriers have interactions
- 55:14with people in this union that can make a difference in their
- 55:19life, that can make a difference in their career.
- 55:25We need people talking to people face to face.
- 55:29You can put whatever you want on a website, you can put whatever
- 55:32you want on Facebook. You can put whatever you want
- 55:36through text message. But that face to face
- 55:39interaction between two people where they can actually look you
- 55:43in the eye and see what your intentions are, That is how we
- 55:50get more people involved. We can talk about it till the
- 55:54cows come home on this podcast, but something has to give
- 56:00because we had 6000 less people vote on this contract, 6000
- 56:07less. Now, you can blame some of that
- 56:11on mail getting stuck in Palmetto or Indianapolis or one
- 56:14of the other SNDC plants that, you know, they can't get things
- 56:20working right. But that's a significant amount
- 56:24of people, especially considering the last three
- 56:27contracts we had 19/20/21 thousand people voting. 6000
- 56:33people is a big number, and it sits squarely on our current
- 56:38president's shoulders. Yeah, I made a post about it as
- 56:45well. And I said celebration isn't
- 56:48leadership. You know, a page full of thank
- 56:52yous and photo OPS isn't leadership.
- 56:54It's messaging. And messaging doesn't deliver
- 56:57relief. You know, it's it's not about
- 57:01preserving the comfort at the top.
- 57:04It's about disrupting it when necessary.
- 57:06It's about facing hard truth, telling members what's really
- 57:09happening and building solutions that do not come wrapped in a
- 57:12ribbon. You know if you think real
- 57:17carriers have had it too good for too long, that you have not
- 57:20stood out on a route in the heat carrying the weight of the
- 57:24system on your back. No one who walks a mile in our
- 57:27shoes today would ever say we have had it too good.
- 57:32They would have said we kept the mail moving through broken
- 57:35systems, broken promises and broken vehicles.
- 57:40And that's what leadership believes we deserve.
- 57:43Then it's time for us to raise the standard.
- 57:47We deserve more than a contract that just ticks the box.
- 57:51We deserve more than empty price.
- 57:54We deserve respect, safety and schedules our families can count
- 58:00on. This contract does not deliver
- 58:04anything to help these carriers, and pretending otherwise will
- 58:08not make it through. It passed, That's a fact, but it
- 58:13passed in silence from too many who have lost faith.
- 58:18We should be asking why that is, not patting ourselves on the
- 58:22back. This isn't the end of the road,
- 58:25it's a wake up call. What?
- 58:33He said. I'm with him.
- 58:35I'm with that guy. I I want to, I want to read, let
- 58:41me, let me go here. I want to read what me out says
- 58:45in regards to us having a contract which protects us more
- 58:51from privatization. That was the fear mongering that
- 58:55they were putting out. Privatization is a minimum of
- 59:01five to 10 year process in regards to switching us over.
- 59:06Even if they were to convert US under the Chamber of Commerce,
- 59:11privatization still would take that 5 to 10 year window.
- 59:16They fear monger us into accepting this contract and our
- 59:21national board put the same story out there.
- 59:26Oh, we don't have to worry because now we're protected by a
- 59:28contract. You know what?
- 59:30If they privatize, your contract goes away, plain and simple.
- 59:37And that means over 600,000 people will be back on the
- 59:43market fighting for the jobs they used to have at higher pay
- 59:46and benefits. This is where you reach out to
- 59:49your. A lot lower, and this is where
- 59:52you have to get a hold of your legislative people to fight for
- 59:55this the the same way they turned around and tried to put
- 59:58that program in there for the furs.
- 1:00:03Contributions, all they did was delay it to the the 2028.
- 1:00:08It's still on the table, but they're not telling you that,
- 1:00:12oh, we want it. We got it off there.
- 1:00:14Well, no, you didn't. You got it delayed.
- 1:00:18This is just, this is like the Postal Reform Act when you
- 1:00:22turned around and said, oh, we have to prepay 75 years into the
- 1:00:27future for retirement and healthcare benefits. 75 years in
- 1:00:32the future means you're paying retirement and health benefits
- 1:00:35for people not born yet. But in the meantime, Congress
- 1:00:42was able to go in and raid us, raid us for the extra money.
- 1:00:47Did we get any of that money back that we prepaid?
- 1:00:51No, we didn't. And you'll never see that money
- 1:00:55again. It's the same way when Jimmy
- 1:00:58Carter voted for Social Security be given to immigrants.
- 1:01:03Hold it. You're paying for people who've
- 1:01:05never paid into the system. Right off the bat.
- 1:01:08You're giving them money. And somebody said, well, you
- 1:01:10know, oh, the immigrants now, some of them pay taxes this and
- 1:01:13that. It doesn't offset the cost of
- 1:01:16the medical, the school and the housing that we're providing
- 1:01:20illegal immigrants. That's another subject.
- 1:01:23I'll stop right there. But the fact of the matter is
- 1:01:26they basically we're fear mongering you into saying go for
- 1:01:30this contract because you know it'll protect us.
- 1:01:34Bullshit. And they bought it.
- 1:01:39Let me go on that bill. Let me go on that fear mongering
- 1:01:45privatization. New postmaster, new this, new
- 1:01:49that. This thing, that thing, the
- 1:01:51other thing, it's always going to happen.
- 1:01:53The post office always being in a deficit, I can tell you right
- 1:01:57now if the post office wanted to, it could be in the positive.
- 1:02:05It can do that now. The problem is you have these
- 1:02:10people who choose to push these narratives and then like Mr.
- 1:02:16Renfro over at the NALC, push that narrative hard enough that
- 1:02:22he got an expedited arbitration that he turned into a mediation,
- 1:02:28got the arbitrator to sign off on that mediation, and shoved
- 1:02:32the TA that the city carriers voted down, down their throats
- 1:02:37with that fear mongering. Then our president comes out and
- 1:02:42fear mongers us. Oh, we're going to get a new
- 1:02:44postmaster general, so we got to have a contract before he gets
- 1:02:47in there. We got to have this done so we
- 1:02:49don't have privatization come down our throats.
- 1:02:53The fact is, they turn around and try to get you to do things
- 1:02:59you don't want to do under the fear that if you don't do it,
- 1:03:04something bad is going to happen.
- 1:03:07Now, I don't know about you, but that sounds definitely a lot
- 1:03:09like a narcissistic relationship if you ask me.
- 1:03:12Because when you are shoving things down people's throats,
- 1:03:15trying to tell them that you've got to do this or else you're
- 1:03:19going to lose everything, guess what?
- 1:03:22People are going to buy that. How many times does management
- 1:03:26use that against us? And you're sitting there acting
- 1:03:30like management doing that. Why do we have, why do we have
- 1:03:37leaders who are acting like management who think carrier
- 1:03:42questions are bullshit? Those aren't leaders.
- 1:03:48Those are managers. Go ahead, though.
- 1:03:51This, this reminds me a lot about the, the whole COVID
- 1:03:54situation and you know, yes, it, it was a pandemic of sorts.
- 1:04:02Yes, it killed I, I don't know how many because I, I can't
- 1:04:06believe any of the numbers. I mean, I, I remember the guy
- 1:04:09getting run over by a tractor trailer on a motorcycle and they
- 1:04:12tested him for COVID. So they qualified for, you know,
- 1:04:14extra COVID money from the government.
- 1:04:17But this reminds me of COVID when, you know, they, they put
- 1:04:21the fear of God in everybody and they stayed home.
- 1:04:24And, you know, businesses collapse, you know, industries
- 1:04:28restaurant and, you know, went bankrupt in three months.
- 1:04:32And yet we went to work every day and I don't remember ever
- 1:04:38catching COVID. You know, I, I didn't feel good
- 1:04:41on a couple days here or there, you know, but since I never got
- 1:04:45the COVID test and nobody in my family got the COVID test and
- 1:04:47ever, you know, had the symptoms, it was the fear
- 1:04:51mongering that kept everybody in place.
- 1:04:54It created this national frenzy that you got to do all these
- 1:04:58things. You got to wear gloves, you have
- 1:05:00to use hand sanitizer, you have to wear the mask.
- 1:05:03And half the people would wear the mask beneath their nose.
- 1:05:07Well, OK, what's the transmission phase for COVID?
- 1:05:11Inhaling it through your nostrils.
- 1:05:14OK, I can't figure this out, but it's the same messaging that got
- 1:05:19out there and created this type of hysteria or fear in people.
- 1:05:27And you know, you can't trust the mass media, you can't trust
- 1:05:31the government, can't trust Facebook.
- 1:05:35But you know, guess what? I trusted my own common sense,
- 1:05:37took care of my myself and my family with my our precautions
- 1:05:42and we never had a problem. Vaccinations.
- 1:05:46No, thank you. You're not putting stuff into me
- 1:05:49that hasn't been approved. And you've given the
- 1:05:51pharmaceutical companies a pass on any liability.
- 1:05:58No, I, I, I, I'm not that much of A sheep.
- 1:06:02I'm glad that, you know, some people have gone through it and,
- 1:06:05and, and got their vaccinations. They're fine and everything.
- 1:06:08No, I'm not a sheep. I'm not following it just
- 1:06:11because you say, you know, there's a major contagion out
- 1:06:15there that's going to kill you. Driving a postal vehicle can
- 1:06:20kill you. Working in this heat can kill
- 1:06:23you. Road rage can kill you.
- 1:06:29But guess what? Covid's going to sneak up and
- 1:06:32get you. No, thank you.
- 1:06:37We're not talking about privatization and COVID the same
- 1:06:39breath. We're talking about the fear
- 1:06:41mongering aspect of their messaging.
- 1:06:45They're trying to, you know, get you to react to the message
- 1:06:50they're putting out there. And and Don reacted.
- 1:06:54He, you know, he put an agreement out there that
- 1:06:57basically the USPS wanted to 9000 people bought it.
- 1:07:07Bill, I I will say this, as much as I disagree with how those
- 1:07:119000 people voted, I give them props for voting.
- 1:07:19Oh, I'm not getting not giving them props for voting.
- 1:07:22I give props 4000. I give props to the 14,014
- 1:07:27thousand. I give props and for actually
- 1:07:29voting. Whether they agreed to it, got
- 1:07:32fear mongered into it. Whatever they voted, you got to
- 1:07:39give credit that they actually paid the postage and filled out
- 1:07:44the form to vote, Especially in areas that don't get visited by
- 1:07:50their union representation. But you've got to remember, when
- 1:07:58a craft isn't educated on everything that's going on,
- 1:08:03they're going to vote blind on this stuff.
- 1:08:06I remember a carrier actually making the statement.
- 1:08:09I voted yes because I want them to go to arbitration.
- 1:08:15What? Yes, somebody actually said
- 1:08:19that. No, I don't know if it was
- 1:08:22sarcasm or truth, but it was a statement made on social media
- 1:08:29that they voted yes so it would go to arbitration.
- 1:08:33I think they might have been playing for emotional.
- 1:08:36Wow, that's kind of backfired, right?
- 1:08:42Yeah. Yep, you know, so all right, And
- 1:08:50and. And I want, I want to, I want to
- 1:08:53meow that, you know, I've known people who died from COVID too,
- 1:08:57and most of them had underlying conditions.
- 1:09:01Not all, but most of them did and most of them were elderly.
- 1:09:08You know, the the fact of the matter is that you have to take
- 1:09:10your own personal health in perspective and act accordingly.
- 1:09:15But you know, for the mass immunization, I mean, we worked
- 1:09:21in the post office, we worked 6 to 8 feet away from each other.
- 1:09:25We interact with each other for the years through COVID and yet
- 1:09:30nobody in our office died of COVID.
- 1:09:34We interacted with customers. I have no one on my route that
- 1:09:39died from COVID. I've had neighbors pass away
- 1:09:45from COVID. Everybody has to take
- 1:09:48responsibility for your own personal health and welfare.
- 1:09:53That wasn't my message. My message is that you're
- 1:09:56following along with the mass media.
- 1:09:59I never took any precautions above and beyond a mask and
- 1:10:04washing my hands all the time, which I do normally because the
- 1:10:08mail is dirty, you know, you don't know who used your truck
- 1:10:12laughs. They're filthy.
- 1:10:14But the fact of the matter is I just practice, you know, normal
- 1:10:17hygiene, and I was fine. Hey, James.
- 1:10:24I like, I like to joke up before James.
- 1:10:26May I just say, I like to joke that during COVID I'm like,
- 1:10:30yeah, this is, this is serious. This is a legitimate health
- 1:10:33concern for some people. But the fact is, I've been here
- 1:10:36for 9 years, deal with nasty male and I ain't died yet.
- 1:10:41I mean, when, when you think about it, someone licking an
- 1:10:45envelope, it's just it's, it'll kind of give you the ick if you
- 1:10:49think about it. If there's one of those things,
- 1:10:52like if you listen to the lyrics of songs that you used to like
- 1:10:55as a kid, you're like, Oh my God, I listened to this shit and
- 1:10:57I thought it was good. If you think about stuff like
- 1:11:00that or licking an envelope, it's like, hold on a minute.
- 1:11:05Let me tell you, when you lick an envelope and you cut your
- 1:11:09tongue, that's no joke. Done it, done it, done it.
- 1:11:16We all know what that feels like.
- 1:11:19That's like a that's like a paper cut underneath the
- 1:11:21fingernail. That's right up.
- 1:11:23There. OK, I'm mad.
- 1:11:26No, let's wind this down for the night.
- 1:11:29It's like. Bamboo.
- 1:11:31It's like bamboo shoots being shoved underneath your finger.
- 1:11:33Oh, no. That's what I used to do.
- 1:11:35I'm sorry. Go ahead.
- 1:11:37Josh, your final thought for the evening.
- 1:11:42Like I said, it's hot, hot hot. Hydrate hydrate hydrate Safety
- 1:11:47safety safety. Am I going to talk in triples?
- 1:11:49Maybe, maybe, maybe. Yeah, I'm a poet and I didn't
- 1:11:54know it. OK in all seriousness, y'all do
- 1:11:59your job, do it safely, do it with pride.
- 1:12:07We're we're being watched by management, by customers and by
- 1:12:11our own Co workers, if you catch my drift.
- 1:12:14I'm watching. I'm watching when people don't
- 1:12:16do their vehicle inspections and I get back to the office, but
- 1:12:21their tires are bald in the front and I bring a manager out
- 1:12:25there. I said, look at this shit.
- 1:12:27OK. We need to make sure that we're
- 1:12:30safe. If that means you stay in office
- 1:12:33like James did and turn his mail, fine.
- 1:12:38He got back in eight hours. As you so eloquently put.
- 1:12:42James, at this time of year, if you need to case your DPS so
- 1:12:47that you're working out of less bundles because it's hotter than
- 1:12:50ever loving shit outside, I'd say do it.
- 1:12:53Because we are technically allowed to case our DPS.
- 1:12:57We are in command of our own safety out there.
- 1:13:01Not our Co workers, not management, us.
- 1:13:05It is incumbent upon us to do all that we can to be safe.
- 1:13:10As they so eloquently say, we are the most important delivery
- 1:13:14of the end of the day. Get your ass home to your family
- 1:13:18and if you don't have family you might have a pet or something or
- 1:13:23someone that is waiting on you to get home.
- 1:13:26OK, I do not want to hear one more report of a carrier getting
- 1:13:32sick or God forbid dying to this heat.
- 1:13:39Our job is dangerous enough. We we do our job and the all I
- 1:13:47ask is that we do it safely. God bless y'all.
- 1:13:51And it's going to be hot again next week.
- 1:13:55There's going to be rain probably everywhere.
- 1:14:00Be safe. We saw with Texas flooding can
- 1:14:03come out of nowhere so always be aware.
- 1:14:08If you don't feel safe, bring it back, let management know.
- 1:14:13Fill out a 1767. Turn around.
- 1:14:16Don't drown. OK, James, I'm done.
- 1:14:21Bill, your final thoughts? Well, let me address Mr. Johnson
- 1:14:25who wanted to know about bringing up resolutions and
- 1:14:27changes only in the spring. We do them all year long.
- 1:14:31We start working on them as soon as the, the last section in our
- 1:14:35first meeting. So you don't have to wait till
- 1:14:37the spring to do it. We do it all year long.
- 1:14:39And you know, you should too. I like the fact that we can get
- 1:14:44on this format and, and disagree and, and agree and argue in
- 1:14:49regards to, you know, our beliefs and everything else.
- 1:14:52And you know, and we're doing it in, in a respectful manner.
- 1:14:55We're, we're not calling each other names and poo pooping
- 1:15:00everybody else's opinions. Everybody's opinion is valuable.
- 1:15:05The fact of the matter is that when I express my feelings,
- 1:15:08these are what I feel based on my upbringing, the, the, the
- 1:15:12experiences of I have had by, you know, being in the post
- 1:15:17office for 26 years, being a union representative, being a
- 1:15:21local officer for over 20 years and, you know, being retired for
- 1:15:25less than a year. And I'm still active every day
- 1:15:28of the week in regards to answering people's questions
- 1:15:32and, and queries in regards to tractual language or
- 1:15:37disciplinary actions. A gentleman on Facebook said,
- 1:15:42you know, well, you're retired now.
- 1:15:43Thank you for your service and all that.
- 1:15:45Well, the fact of the matter is I still have more input than
- 1:15:50most carriers who are in the union or aren't even in the
- 1:15:53union. But in regards to, you know,
- 1:15:56getting things resolved for carriers, and I've said it
- 1:16:00before and I'll say it again, 26 years in the post office, the,
- 1:16:05you know, they're my family and I don't abandoned my family just
- 1:16:09because I changed my designation as a active carrier to a retired
- 1:16:15carrier. They're still my family.
- 1:16:18And I've got customers who are family to me too.
- 1:16:22So I I appreciate everybody who comes in and has a difference of
- 1:16:25opinion, is willing to discuss them and is respectful in
- 1:16:29regards to how we discuss them. This is the foundation of
- 1:16:33united. We scan that, you know, we can,
- 1:16:35you know, inform each other, discuss, argue and debate.
- 1:16:40But we're here all for one thing, and that that's for the
- 1:16:43fact that we are here for you. We're we're not doing this, you
- 1:16:50know, and getting paid for it. We're taking our time and effort
- 1:16:53energy out of out in doing this. Kristen's made the investments
- 1:16:58in regards to the recording equipment.
- 1:17:02This is a a family affair to me. But the thing to me that it's
- 1:17:07most important is that we stick together on the issues that are
- 1:17:13really important that we can unify behind.
- 1:17:17Yes, we can not agree on everything and you never will be
- 1:17:21asked my wife for 37 years. But the fact of the matter is
- 1:17:25you stand united and you protect everybody's interests, not just
- 1:17:31your own. That's that's the basis of a
- 1:17:33union. Everyone, not just one or two or
- 1:17:38three people, but everyone. So with that in mind, please
- 1:17:45keep that in mind, help protect your fellow carriers from
- 1:17:51harassment, from dangerous situations, from being
- 1:17:56threatened, being harassed. Step up.
- 1:18:00Be a voice for the union. Be a voice for that individual.
- 1:18:04You don't even have to be a union member to step up to
- 1:18:06protect somebody. I mean, acts of heroin is
- 1:18:09happening every day across the world.
- 1:18:12And it's not because they're black or white, not because
- 1:18:15they're Catholic or Muslim. It's because it's the thing to
- 1:18:19do. It's the right thing to do.
- 1:18:24You guys are going to have another hot, wet weekend
- 1:18:28depending of the week. Depending on where you're at,
- 1:18:31you're probably still going to have an influx of Amazon Prime
- 1:18:34days coming at you Monday on top of the rest of the bullshit
- 1:18:38Mondays. Bring go out there.
- 1:18:41Do your job professionally, efficiently, safely, and make
- 1:18:45sure your vehicles are in good shape, ready to go.
- 1:18:49Get the job done and go home. You are the most important
- 1:18:53delivery of the day to your loved ones and to us.
- 1:18:58Like Josh said, we don't want to see any more reports about
- 1:19:01people having heat stroke or dying jobs.
- 1:19:06Not worth it. It's not a job out there worth
- 1:19:08it and you didn't sign up for it.
- 1:19:10Unless you're in the military, you're not in the military.
- 1:19:14You work for the United States Postal Service.
- 1:19:16Deliver your ass home to your loved ones.
- 1:19:19God bless you and all. Have a good night.
- 1:19:20Good week, James. Thank you guys.
- 1:19:25You're right. It's it's important that we take
- 1:19:28care of each other. We are a family.
- 1:19:30We are brothers and sisters of the crap.
- 1:19:33And we may not get along. You may not like me.
- 1:19:38I may not like you, but anybody messes with my brothers and
- 1:19:42sisters, I'm going after them. It doesn't matter if you and I
- 1:19:49fight with each other. You know, you call me names.
- 1:19:52I I get upset about it or you post anonymously and try to put
- 1:19:57me down in front of the entire craft.
- 1:20:00That's fine. We're brothers and sisters.
- 1:20:03That's what how families are. But when you are in trouble or
- 1:20:07you need help and you reach out privately to me, I'm going to
- 1:20:12respond. I'm going to help you because
- 1:20:14that's what brothers and sisters do for each other.
- 1:20:19We are here as a craft to do a job.
- 1:20:25And that job is to take the mail we are given, the packages we
- 1:20:29are given, and deliver them to our customers diligently and
- 1:20:34faithfully every day we are assigned.
- 1:20:39We are not here to deal with idiotic management,
- 1:20:45micromanagement, harassment, toxic work environments, hostile
- 1:20:51acts, violence, any of that stuff.
- 1:20:54We're here to come do a task, get it done, and get paid on
- 1:20:59payday. Management doesn't seem to
- 1:21:02understand that one bit. So we have to protect each other
- 1:21:09every single day because at the end of the day, we're all in
- 1:21:14this together. Have a good week everybody, and
- 1:21:18we'll see you in the next episode.