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Tereza Coraggio on Hitler, Germany, and the Rothschilds | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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My name is June. This is June.
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Warfare, the battle of ideas. Teresa Carraggio, I hope I said
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that correctly. Thank you for joining me in the
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trenches. Thank you so much, Jeremy.
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Teresa, that's such an interesting name.
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Your your whole name doesn't sound American.
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Well the Z in there I have tried to cluge so that it has that
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more exotic pronunciation of Teresa.
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So that is my own invention. OK, but it's got a very
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Mediterranean twang to it. Caraggio is courage, heart.
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It's Italian. I was going to say it, but I
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didn't want to sound like an idiot.
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I mean, a short of Mao and Stalin, Hitler is one of those,
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is one of those names that that just it triggers such a
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polarized response around the world no matter where you are.
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I don't even think Hitler is a surname anywhere in the world.
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Yeah, excellent point, because it certainly was not Adolf's
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patrilineal name. Well, we're going to get into
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that. So you've, you've written,
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you've written a whole bunch about him.
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Tell me a little bit about you. Yes, so I I am a housewife who
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is just trying to figure things out for myself.
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And that's why I don't care if I have an audience.
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What I want is to teach myself something new every time that I
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write. So I write on Substack at Third
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paradigm.substack.com and then I've written a book on
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economics, which is How to Dismantle an Empire.
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And that goes through 3500 years of how we got to this place, the
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invention of money. And also looking forward, how we
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can get out of it, how we can create a sovereign money system
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which again will tie in to Germany post World War One.
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Yeah, you mentioned that you're a housewife, but I, I, I know
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what you're, what you're trying to get at.
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You're trying to say that you aren't an expert, but I want to
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point out that, quote UN quote, experts are the worst kind of
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people in the covert era showed that.
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Trust the experts, Teresa. Yes, yes, absolutely.
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I, I think that we should all be passionate amateurs, that that
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thinking clearly is a process and whatever thing that you're
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applying it to, it's always the same process.
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And we've we've lost that art of being able to think critically
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and systematically. Your sub stack is called third
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paradigm. What is that?
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I think that we've been pushed into these false dichotomies and
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that in every dichotomy out there, there is a third way of
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looking at it that isn't just a compromise between the middle,
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but is something that is looking at it completely from a
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different angle. I think Noam Chomsky wrote about
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that many, many years ago. He said that the the parameters
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of acceptable discourse or controlled discourse allow for
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people to argue and viciously debate one another and think
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that they are coming at each other with opposing views.
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Meanwhile, on the outside of those parameters, there is a
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series of more truths. And isn't it ironic that he has
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now become one of the top examples of that you what
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sometimes there is called the Overton window.
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And he is that person who set the debate and narrowed it on
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Palestine into these acceptable parameters and did not give the
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real story, which I think on UK column is being given in a
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wonderful way by Vanessa Bailey. So what made you look into
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Hitler and Germany? Yes, yes.
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Well, it was responding to someone else's interview of CJ
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Hopkins. And of course he got into
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trouble because he had the swastika that was grayscaled in
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the background of his cover. And I was and that became a big
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thing I think in in the Covidcon is that many people were saying,
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oh, what's happening now? It's just like the Nazis.
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So I responded and said, well, maybe we should take a closer
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look at that, because the last time that there was any system
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of sovereign money in the world was in Germany.
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And how did they recover from the horrible reparations that
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were imposed on them at the Treaty of Versailles?
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How did they end up having this economic miracle?
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And did that have anything to do with everything that happened
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after that with World War 2? So then, OK, so before we get
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into, what is your your central argument?
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My I would say my central argument is that the World wars
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were not the Allies versus the Axis countries, that they were
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always Rothschild versus Germany and Rothschild won, and that I
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am 100% certain that Adolf was a Rothschild agent and I'd put 50%
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probability that he was a Rothschild.
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Yeah, you call it the Rothschild paternity theory, isn't that
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right? You could call it that, yes,
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yes. And then that would be one side
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of it. But I don't, I don't think the
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two necessarily go together. I think really the critical
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thing is looking at him as a Rothschild agent.
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But certainly if he is a Rothschild, then that gives more
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indication of why he would have come to their attention in order
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to be their agent. Well.
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If you don't mind, walk me through some of your your your
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research. Right.
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So, so you have to, you have to start.
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Well, actually, let me just say this first that I was listening
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to your interview of Makaya Freeman.
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Is that how you pronounce his name?
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Makia. Makia and Makia did a wonderful
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job of laying the groundwork because he talked a lot about
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how the Rothschilds had engineered the World Wars.
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So he gave a lot of the background on on the Great War.
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He even talked about how Kaiser Wilhelm had offered peace with
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no reparations at a point where Germany and Austria had
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effectively won the war. And that fact has been scrubbed
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from the Internet now. No matter how you ask AI for it,
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it can't get that fact from its accepted its accepted sources.
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So, so after that, then there was the Balfour Declaration and
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the Balfour Declaration gave Rothschilds Palestine in
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exchange for bringing the US in and turning it into a World War.
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So that was what the Germans called the stab in the back
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theory that the at the Treaty of Versailles, when that came out
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was when they knew that they had been stabbed in the back.
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So Adolf, the thing that was the clincher for me after all the
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other research in saying, yes, he absolutely was an agent is to
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find out he wasn't even German, that he was Austrian and
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Austrian. Austrian Germany were two
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separate countries that Bavaria and Germany were together, and
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Austria and Hungary were together.
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So he in 1913 left Vienna, left Austria in order to dodge the
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draft that he would have been subject to automatic
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conscription. Now there is no verification of
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where he was for the last three years.
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From 19, from 1810 to 1813. No, I'm sorry, 1910 to 1913 in
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Vienna he disappears. And so it is possible that at
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that time he's connected with the Rothschilds or people who
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are within that circle. So he goes to Munich in Bavaria
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and they catch up with him. The Bavarian police say, wait a
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minute, you need to go join the army back in Austria.
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And somehow he gets out of it and they say that he wasn't fit
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for service because of poor lung capacity.
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So here's the person who becomes this great orator, but he gets
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excused and not sent to prison, which would have been the case
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for someone who was a draft Dodger.
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When the war begins, that happens again.
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He ends up joining the Bavarian army.
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So he's joining the Bavarian army as an Austrian spy.
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He is not Bavarian. And then he ends up becoming a
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message runner. What better position is there
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for a spy than to be the one who's bringing the messages back
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and forth between the generals? He becomes known to Hindenburg
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and Ludendorff, and when the war is over and he misses the end of
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the war because he's in a hospital somewhere.
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So when the war is over, he doesn't leave the army.
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Instead he denounces someone else for being a revolutionary.
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And then he becomes an infiltrator into the the
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different parties that we're forming.
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And particularly he is told by Carl Mayer, who is the boss of
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propaganda and intelligence, who answers to Ludendorff and who
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says that Ludendorff told him to do this.
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He infiltrates the German Workers Party, which has the
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initials DAP. The DAP is where the genius of
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the German economic system is, a guy named Gottfried Fader.
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And Gottfried Fader even has that iconic little moustache
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that Adolf then imitates, becomes known for that he copies
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Fader in that way. And so Fader creates this
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economic plan where basically people are paid for an hours of
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work and it is an exchangeable hour of work that anyone who
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works then earns these, they may have even been called Fader
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bills and that they can then exchange them to other people.
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And Adolf ends up giving a speech talking about why Austria
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should not or why Germany Bavaria should not leave Germany
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and join with Austria, which could have been a very good move
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for them. And instead he becomes the head
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of that organization, but is placed there by Ludendorff and
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by the Intelligence and Propaganda Agency.
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Would Hitler or Adolf as you refer to him, would would Sorry.
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Why is that that distinction being made?
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Why is it just a? No, so, so I so now I'll go into
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his Patrick lineage. So, so Adolf's grandmother,
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Maria Schickelgruber, became pregnant at the age of 42 when
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she and presumably, well, according to two different
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sources, when she was working as a housemaid in the home of a
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wealthy Jewish family, according to the half nephew of Adolf,
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that was in a place called Graf, the second largest city in
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Austria, and it was a family called Frankenberger.
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And that was later disputed because they said, well, there
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were no Jews who were allowed to be living in Graf and there were
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no Frankenberger. But if you go on the Rothschild,
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well, if you, if you look up were there Rothschilds who lived
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in Graph, what AI says is you conspiracy theorist, what you're
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trying to do. But if you look at the
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Rothschild site, when they talk about all of their art
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collections being taken by the Nazis, then it says that the
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Rothschilds have historical ties to Graph.
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So there is a presence. Maybe not ordinary Jews, but the
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Rothschilds are living in Graf and where they got their start
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was Frankfurt and so they are. If you are going to disguise the
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name Frankenbergers, they are people who came from Frankfurt.
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So that's why it can't be, it can't be completely eliminated.
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That Rothschild would be, I think it's Anselm.
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Solomon is the one who is the most likely would be the father
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of of Adolf's father. Sorry, I had my microphone off.
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OK, so, so if you don't mind me jumping just for a second,
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would, would, would he have been aware of all of this?
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Adolf I mean, that would be entirely speculative, but he's,
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he knew that there were rumors and that he hired Hans Frank,
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who was his lawyer, to disprove those lawyers.
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And what he gave Hans Frank, according to Hans Frank at
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Nuremberg, was a pile of correspondence that was between
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his grandmother and the Frankenberger's, where they also
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paid for Aloise to be raised until the age of 13, at which
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point Aloise then disappears into Vienna, that he goes to
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Vienna and no one really knows his whereabouts.
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So if in that if he actually is the Rothschild bastard and they
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have a policy of not letting that go to waste, then Alois is
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potentially someone who then connects with them.
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So what you're saying is that the the timing of of Maria
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falling pregnant while in Vienna is very suspicious?
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That and also the cover story is completely implausible.
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The cover story is so so Aloise changes his name at he's he's
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fairly old at that point. He's in his 30s.
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He's married to a wealthy woman who's 50, and he goes back and
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they all say, Oh yes, Johann, Johann was Heidler, was actually
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the father. And that's who Maria ends up
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marrying at 47. But he never gives, He never
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claims Aloise. And he is already dead by the
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time that they go back and claim and say, Oh yes, he was the
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father all along. So it's implausible that after
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his death would be the time that he claims that.
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And at the same time, Aloise comes into a pretty good chunk
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of money, so and the person who was the Rothschild who could
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have been the father dies a couple years before that.
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So potentially that is part of some deal.
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The other 50% possibility is that Alouet is that Adolf's
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mother was that Adolf's father was his mother's uncle.
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And since they. All say that again.
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Say that again. Yeah, no, it's a very, it's a
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very good possibility that Adolf's father was his mother's
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uncle. And throughout their lives they
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called each other uncle and niece.
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So that is entirely a possibility, which means that
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Nebomuch, who was a brother of Johann and who was a complete
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piece of work, who had three children by that time, that he
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could have been the one to rape Maria.
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And I am always going to refer to this, whatever happened as
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rape, because the use of servants in this way was so
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common that that, you know, one of the things that cited is
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that, oh, isn't this awful, that when the Nazis took over, they
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put in this rule that no German woman could be under the age of
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45, could work in the household of a Jewish family.
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So why would they put in that rule?
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They put in that rule because the rape of household servants
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was so common. OK, take me back to then the
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rise of Hitler. You were you were taking me
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through that. Yes, so, so then yes, so then he
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goes, he writes something called the Gemlich letter that is one
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his first propaganda piece and that is something that he's
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coached by Carl Mayer, who is the head of propaganda and
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intelligence on how to write this letter answering to
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answering about anti-Semitism. Now anti-Semitism is an actual
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policy. It was in Germany saying there
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is an ideology that we are against.
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Now as you know from my from my sub stack, I also go deep into
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biblical sources and I look at the Torah.
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So what I call it is anti-Semitism.
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So semitism is what the word semitism was.
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He was the son of the son of Noah.
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Exactly. He is the son of Noah, and he is
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the one who was given the right to rule over the entire world,
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and Japheth is to live in his tent.
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But Ham, who is clarified by Josephus to represent Africa,
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Egypt and parts of Asia, is to be his slaves.
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All of his descendants are to be slaves to the descendants of
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Shem and Canaan is to be the lowest of all slaves.
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And even as an analogy, it's it's kind of weird because this
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is Noah giving this curse after he gets drunk, falls asleep
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naked. I don't know, is that a thing?
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And then when and then Ham talks about that, he talks about the
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naked truth. And instead Shem and Jaffeth
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walk in backwards and cover him with a seamless cloak.
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And that's why he curses Ham. But Canaan's not even in that
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story. So why is he cursing Canaan?
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That is, I think, a very suspicious thing that brings in
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this this whole history. So I am against the ideology
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that some people are born to be masters and other people are
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born to be slaves. That is shematism and I am fully
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100% against it. The Germans were also against
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it. And what they said is it is not
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that I I would put a difference here between people who are in
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another country can be immigrants where they want to
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assimilate, they want to be accepted by the new culture.
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They can be invaders where they're coming as conquerors
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from the outside, or they can be infiltrators who are coming
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pretending to be immigrants, but who are really loyal to another
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country or empire or something outside of that.
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And what the Germans were saying is that the Jews were
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infiltrators and that they did not describe themselves as
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Jewish Germans, but instead as German Jews.
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That the actual affiliation and what what Adolf was saying is
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that they are a race, not a religion.
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And that is twisting that truth a little bit because really it
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is a religion of racial superiority.
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So if you look at it as an ideology, if someone was coming
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in and assimilating, if they were marrying into the with the
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Germans, they weren't seen as being part of the problem.
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It was those who were loyal to a diaspora empire, and that's what
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Rothschild was that. If you look at the most popular
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weekly newspaper back in 1938, I think it was it.
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It's talking about how he is the king of Judah, how kings and
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emperors can't make any decisions without consulting him
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because he is above them. And that's what the Germans were
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objecting to. He he he rose to significance
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fairly quickly, which of course is always something that that
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should raise alarm bells. What you then suggesting is that
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he was an agent unwittingly or unknowingly for the Rothschilds,
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like he was manipulated. He it had to be knowingly if he
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is leaving Austria and somehow he knows that he can do that
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without getting put in prison for draft dodging.
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He's he's in on it. You know, for a while I thought
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maybe he was just being manipulated.
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But when I found that out, I realized that he had to be in on
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it from the very beginning because otherwise he would never
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be going and joining the Bavarian army.
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And what the the way that it's spun is, Oh, he didn't like the
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Hapsburgs and he didn't like the multi ethnic makeup of the of
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the Austrian army. But you're going to war for the
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fact that a Habsburg has been killed.
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So if you don't like the Habsburgs, why would he fall to
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his knees and thank God that the war had started?
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Because the war has started, presumably because a Habsburg
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has been killed. And just to segue to that for a
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moment, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand makes
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the JFK magic bullet seem plausible.
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It is the hokiest ham handed setup ever.
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There's like, you can't even look at it and not know that
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it's a false flag. First, you know, he's in Bosnia.
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First there's a bomb thrown and it misses.
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It goes between the cars. It injuries the people in the
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car behind him. He goes, storms off and after a
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couple toddies or whatever, they say, oh, let's go visit the
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injured. They go in another motorcade
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that somehow needs to back up into a side street with the
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whole line of cars. So he's blocked in, and then
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they stall and he happens to be right in front of the backup
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assassin. There is no way in the world
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that that was not planned. There were definitely other
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players involved with the with the the triggering of the war.
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I think Cecil Rhodes might have been one of those involved,
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actually. Right.
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Yeah, yeah. And so then, so another fact
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that I didn't realize until I started researching this is that
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Adolf's position of Reich's counselor was not elected.
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He went, they people never voted for him.
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It had to be appointed. And so President Hindenburg, and
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this is another rabbit hole I haven't fully dived down, but
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how does the general who loses World War One end up becoming
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president? That I am certain that they
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threw the war intentionally at that point that they were they
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were objected to the fact that Kaiser Wilhelm had offered peace
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without reparations. And so when they got back into
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it, they lost on purpose because Rothschild had paid for the
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entire war. The Germans had never paid for
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that war. So.
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So when Adolf is in this position, all of these wealthy
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industrialists pay 3,000,000 Mark Reichsmarks to President
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Hindenburg for him to appoint Adolf.
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That is a set up obviously. What?
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What? What was the?
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Yeah, go on. Oh, and and he becomes a German
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a year before he becomes the Reich's counselor.
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Is that possible? How's that possible?
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You're not even a citizen, and a year later you are the Reich's
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counselor. So what was the the mission?
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What was the end game? Yeah, the end game was to bleed
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the Germans, bleed the Germans dry, certainly to set Germany
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and and Russia so that, you know, they've let each other
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dry, which is what Churchill said.
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But to punish Germany for having kicked the Rothschilds out
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because they had again, created this economic miracle.
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They had created the money so that everything could flow.
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So in monetary theory, there's a saying of that for any city to
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say, oh, we can't do that because we don't have the money
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is like someone saying, well, I can't build this house because I
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don't have enough inches. That it is entirely a concept
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and that in order to control your own labor, you should be
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able to create as much as you want.
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So what Germany had done was proven that to the world, the
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Rothschilds would never, never have been able to dominate
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another country through their monetary system if that had been
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able to catch on, and it would have spread like wildfire.
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So they wanted to crush that monetary example and make sure
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that no one ever tried that again.
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He was a Rothschild agent, possibly even a Rothschild by by
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birthright. Yes, yes.
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OK, right? Then why would he have kicked
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out the Rothschild bankers? Well, because it's not just him.
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He has to play the role. And so the Rothschild bankers,
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that's the entire intent of of the German people.
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The German people are saying they caused the problem.
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They're the ones who stabbed us in the back in World War One.
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And therefore we need to get rid of that banking system.
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So when the the one Rothschild was put in prison, I think it
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ends up where Himmler visits him and he ends up getting upgraded
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to being kept in prison in a luxury hotel and then he pays
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some ransom and then, you know, is able to leave and all of that
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ends up coming back to them. Whatever it is that they can
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say, oh, the Nazis took this away from us, ends up coming
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back to them. So they're not really worried
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about that. It's what's the term K fade the
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the worldwide wrestling. It's all just fake.
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But Hitler has to play, he has to play that role so that, for
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instance, when you have that front page ad that is run where
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it says that we, the nation of Judah, declare war on Germany.
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That was, that was in 1933. I think I've seen that.
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I've seen that. That was a whole newspaper front
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page. Right, right.
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But it had to be much earlier because it would have been, it
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would have been before World War 2 was was fully happening.
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So. So yeah.
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No, but that's but that's all I said 1933, not 1943.
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Oh yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, you're
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right. You're right.
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So, so yes, so they have this front page ad and what who it
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blames is, is Hitler. It says Hitler is the one.
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And that's the reason for this boycott.
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So what that does is it puts Adolf into this position where
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he says, OK, in order to placate them, we have to allow all of
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the Jews to emigrate to Palestine along with their
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money. And so that's when they put in
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the transfer agreement where because they weren't allowed to
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extricate the German money, instead what they could do is
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transfer goods. And so all of the equipment, the
33:51
heavy equipment that built Israel ends up being transferred
33:56
and then those same Jews cash out.
34:00
And so so they have wanted to erect a statue to Adolf in
34:07
Israel, because without that, Israel would have never been
34:11
built. Yeah, exactly.
34:13
So I've also read that he already from the late 1920s was
34:18
discussing helping Jews move to Palestine.
34:23
Yes, yes. And that, that is the game also
34:28
because the Balfour Declaration didn't mean anything if no Jews
34:33
wanted to move to Palestine. And why would they?
34:36
That would be moving from their cushy lives in Germany and being
34:42
very wealthy to a desert. So no one wanted to move.
34:48
And so that's why when you look at the word Nazi, so again, when
34:57
when Adolf joins the German Workers Party, it is DAP nothing
35:03
to do with Nazi, he adds. National Socialist, now
35:09
socialist, is what they're against.
35:12
They are a Workers Party. They say you work and you get
35:16
paid. Socialism is exactly what
35:19
they're afraid of because that's what's being brought in.
35:23
So why would you add something to the name that would be the
35:27
opposite of what they stood for? And now that is.
35:31
That ends up being an acronym of NSDAP, which once again sounds
35:37
nothing like Nazi. What does sound a lot like Nazi
35:41
is Ashkenazi. And that's how I think it should
35:46
always be pronounced. Because I don't I I try not to
35:51
use the word Jew. I try to always say someone who
35:55
self identifies as a Jew because the word Jew didn't even exist
36:01
until the 18th century. Well, yes, in the you're
36:05
correct. I've also read that.
36:07
Well, I think it was around the late 1600s or early 1700s where
36:11
where the word Jew entered the English lexicon.
36:17
Right. But in Hebrew there's no J.
36:20
So if you take the word Jews and you know there's an I that's
36:25
pronounced as AY. So if you take the word Jews and
36:29
substitute AY, what you get is use, USE or EWES.
36:37
And that is what I think all of these different war tribes
36:43
throughout history have been. They have been used by the same
36:49
small group of people, the same dynasty that has then chewed
36:55
them up and made them the bad guys.
36:57
And I, I think that that will be another iteration here.
37:02
So, so yes. So Ashkenazis actually have no
37:05
relationship to Judah, that Ashkenazis are descendants of
37:11
Gomer who are descendants of Japheth.
37:13
So they're not actually even Semites, they're not Shemites.
37:17
They don't descend from the House of Shem.
37:21
So it's of a stretch. They're kind of distant cousins
37:27
to even being Judeans from David Irving.
37:34
There was never a program of extermination against European
37:40
Jews that that Adolf ever ordered or knew about.
37:50
There is 0 evidence that David Irving used to go in waving.
37:56
Yeah, I mean, he was, he was jailed for that.
38:00
That whole narrative though is, is so taboo that it can get you
38:06
criminalized in over 20 countries.
38:08
And you have to ask why? Because if something is true,
38:12
why do you need to defend it with state sanctioned violence?
38:17
Yeah, I know that's a rhetorical question, so I will not be
38:22
answering that. But yes, absolutely.
38:24
Yes, Yes. And what David Irving would do
38:28
is he would go into conferences waving $1000 and say, I will
38:32
give this to anyone who can show me proof.
38:36
And then Ron UNS writes about how he was always a little bit
38:42
skeptical. And then when there was the
38:45
lawsuit with Deborah Lipschitz, something something like that,
38:52
that that then she had something like $3,000,000 in order to
38:58
prove that he had, that he had distorted this.
39:03
And all those lawyers had to do was find one little scrap of
39:08
evidence that Adolf had given this order or even knew about
39:14
it, that there were plans anywhere and they couldn't find
39:18
it, find it. So that so that in a way that
39:21
ends up proving the case because that's what they're they're
39:25
trying to disprove and they can't do it.
39:27
In order to be a professional liar, in order to control the
39:32
opposition, you have to have 99% truth.
39:38
You can't be seen. People are people were looking
39:42
for ways in which he was betraying them.
39:46
People were very suspicious of him.
39:49
That's why he ended up hiring Hans Frank to disprove that he
39:55
was a Jew or a Rothschild because Chancellor Dolphus in
40:01
Austria. Had found proof, he said, of who
40:07
Adolf really was and that he was connected to the Rothschilds and
40:13
he ends up being assassinated and that proof ends up ends up
40:18
disappearing so. So Adolf could never have come
40:24
out and do things publicly unless he was seen as being
40:30
forced into them. So they kept pressuring him to
40:35
say, what are we going to do about the Jewish problem or the
40:40
Jewish question? And that was a very legitimate
40:44
point because how do you deal with and entire people who are
40:51
loyal to an entity outside of your country that that is a
40:58
really difficult thing. You have an organized group that
41:02
can that can depend on having all the forces of money
41:09
throughout the world being brought against, you know, on on
41:12
their part. So it's not like those are a
41:15
small amount of people in your country.
41:19
They're people who have ties to people who can manipulate all of
41:24
that. So that was a legitimate
41:27
question. And Adolf kept punting on that.
41:31
He says, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. After the war, we'll deal with
41:34
that. Oh, maybe Madagascar, you know,
41:36
which was ridiculous and never really a plan.
41:39
But he comes up with these fake ideas, but he never actually
41:44
does anything himself. Did Churchill know any of this?
41:53
Or did de Gaulle know any of this?
41:55
Or Eisenhower. Oh, Churchill totally in on it.
41:59
Totally. Yeah.
42:00
Yeah. Churchill is owned, You know,
42:04
he, he he had all these gambling debts that he was going to lose
42:09
his Chateau over. And then a wealthy Jewish
42:14
businessman comes in and pays them all off.
42:17
So Churchill was always, always, always their man and going back
42:24
to so, so just following this thread of that presumably
42:31
Adolf's father was was conceived in graph by the 19 year old son
42:40
of you know, of, of this Jewish family.
42:44
So if you, I look at the Rothschilds and I say, OK, that
42:48
would mean 1819. What happened?
42:51
Did were there any born in 1819? Not really.
42:56
But if you go back, that's when things really changed for the
43:00
Rothschilds because Nathan Rothschild ends up buying up all
43:06
of the British government bonds and then two years later that
43:12
year sells them at a 40% profit. How does that happen?
43:17
How do you? But if you buy those bonds, you
43:19
own that government. Nobody has the money to buy
43:23
those from you unless you loan it from them.
43:26
And that same year, all of the five children, all of the five
43:31
sons end up becoming barons. So, so that is that is this way
43:41
in which those were significant years and that the Rothschilds
43:46
owned the British government because they had owned all those
43:50
bonds. So this was this was the debate
43:54
that was on my stack for a long time because we were all in
43:59
agreement about all these other facts.
44:01
But the question was, did Adolph simply make mistakes or did he
44:09
make so many military mistakes that they had to have been
44:12
intentional? So he, you know, he he gets
44:15
Dunkirk and then he gives it back.
44:18
He says, oh, never mind. He invades Russia in.
44:23
Yeah, that was. That was ridiculous.
44:25
I mean, obviously he was going to lose.
44:29
Cunning like a fox. That was, that was let me
44:33
sacrifice. Let me sacrifice all of these
44:36
German soldiers. So, yeah, so my, my dad was
44:42
German. My, that Caraggio is actually my
44:47
ex's name. But but my maiden name is
44:52
Zembauer. And so my dad, the year that he
44:56
was born, if he had been born in Germany, 98% of German men died
45:04
who were born in that year. So it was an absolute
45:07
devastation. And Adolph made sure of that.
45:13
He he wouldn't let anyone wake him until noon and he wouldn't
45:18
delegate military decisions. He was a dilettante.
45:22
He kept artist hours and needed his beauty sleep.
45:26
So what? And a vegan.
45:31
Sorry but but. No, no, no, I'm, I'm with you.
45:34
I'm totally with you there on that.
45:38
I mean that that is the worst of all.
45:44
Any anybody who, anybody who struggles to eat bacon and eggs
45:48
in the morning is somebody I don't trust.
45:52
I think every meal should start with bacon myself.
45:55
So. So.
45:56
Yeah. So.
45:57
So he is operating in a way that is going to make the loss
46:04
inevitable. And that was the intention all
46:08
along, because the Germans didn't even want to rearm.
46:12
They didn't want to go to war. They didn't want, they didn't
46:14
want to build up this armament. If the plan was for him to be
46:20
defeated, would he himself have known that he was going in to be
46:24
defeated, or did he think that he was still going to win?
46:29
No, he absolutely knew. If if you look at his supposed
46:35
suicide, it's like, oh, who is it?
46:39
Is it Ava? Ava Braun?
46:41
Oh, she's going to commit suicide with me.
46:44
We go into this closed room, we shut the doors.
46:48
He goes to it like it's just another day.
46:51
According to, you know, his hagiographers, of course it was
46:56
just another day. He never, he never died, you
47:00
know, that was never part of. The yet we know that we we, we
47:02
know that half of half of his people went to Argentina anyway.
47:07
Yes, yes, exactly. Yes, yes, and, and immediately,
47:12
this is stepping way back. But immediately when he comes
47:16
into power, there is the night of the Long knives.
47:20
He kills off all of the people who were the true planners of
47:26
the revolution, of the revolution against the
47:29
Rothschilds. Why Germany?
47:35
It's been a century of trying to defeat the Germans, as Michael
47:41
Hudson says that. Well, they are defeated now.
47:47
Well, I mean, you have even things like the Nord Stream,
47:51
which was really to destroy German industry.
47:55
So the Germans keep getting back on their feet and that that
48:02
personally to the Rothschilds, the one Rothschild who was
48:07
taking over that branch ends up dying with no heirs.
48:12
So in that way Germany is sort of lost to them.
48:16
But really who they have it out for it seems is the Hapsburgs.
48:21
And so they keep on killing off different Hapsburgs and even and
48:28
and so the Archduke Franz Ferdinand ends up inheriting all
48:33
of this power, ends up being the next one in line to the throne.
48:39
But because he was in love with a a lady in waiting, he had made
48:46
an agreement that none of his children could ever inherit.
48:51
So by putting that all into one handy little bundle and then
48:57
killing him off, they got rid of a lot of the Habsburg line.
49:02
So I think this is 1 dynasty fighting against another.
49:08
Would you say that a lot of your research is based on
49:12
circumstantial evidence? How?
49:17
How do you differentiate that from history?
49:21
Yeah, true. I mean, if, if you're talking
49:25
about circumstance being the context of something that that
49:30
I, I think anytime that we're looking at history, you have to
49:36
be reading between the lines. Because once you know, once you
49:40
know that they will lie, that they have lied, then everything
49:45
becomes a a mystery, a mystery that you have to unravel, that
49:51
you have to say, OK, well, this doesn't make sense.
49:55
And So what could have really happened?
50:00
Yeah. And I mean, your subject is
50:02
called Third Paradigm. And so you you're being
50:05
consistent. But do you think David Irving,
50:08
because you mentioned him earlier, would know this also?
50:11
Because I mean, he's written extensively on, on, on, on
50:14
Hitler? I don't think he came to that
50:18
conclusion. No, No, I haven't.
50:20
I haven't read his book, Hitler's War.
50:23
I have it, but, but it seems to me that actually the conclusions
50:29
that he reached were more cautious than this.
50:33
And what I get is the benefit of being able to take his work and
50:38
build off of it. It is plausible that he and
50:43
Mengele, who who did die, I believe in Argentina, did
50:47
escape. Right.
50:50
And, and it also would not be at all beyond them to have killed
50:55
him off once he had done his job.
50:58
So what, what happened to him after?
51:01
But just from the stories of him going into that room, he, he, he
51:07
knew that that was not anything that was, it was just another
51:12
day. Churchill is, is I, I had no
51:17
idea that Churchill is the one who instigated bombing, civic
51:23
bombing of civilian cities behind enemy lines.
51:28
Well, no, before that, before that.
51:30
But Dresden is one that we should talk about.
51:34
But before that, he enthusiasm for the war was flagging in
51:40
London. And so in order to give Adolf an
51:44
excuse to bomb London, he ends up bombing cities.
51:50
And that just it wasn't part of war.
51:53
That war was not something that that that happened And and it's
51:59
something that, you know, I wondered whether you were going
52:04
to ask me about Holocaust as and, and, and I wanted to look
52:09
at that word because of course that's a Hebrew word.
52:13
It's a Hebrew word. It means a burnt offering to the
52:18
bloodthirsty God Yahweh, who actually derived from set or
52:25
seethe, the Egyptian God. And that it is in thanks for a
52:32
victory, a military victory, or asking for a military victory.
52:37
Because the God Yahweh loves the smell of burning flesh and
52:41
that's how you get him to do what you want.
52:44
So if you look at what we're told to be this sacrifice of
52:50
6,000,000 Jews, that certainly would never be called a
52:54
Holocaust. But if you look at Dresden and
53:00
the Inferno, and I have, I have the book Hellstorm here that
53:05
specifically talks about it, that certainly that was a
53:11
Holocaust, that was a burnt offering.
53:15
And then if you look at both Nagasaki and Hiroshima, those
53:24
were burnt offerings. Yeah, mustard gas and yeah.
53:28
And that, well, I mean, they were all fire bombed.
53:31
Well, all fire. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:34
Michael Palmer has argued that that that that Japan was fire
53:37
bombed. Yes, yes, yes.
53:41
And it would still fit. It would still fit because they
53:43
were all civilian cities that were full of refugees and the
53:47
war was effectively over. There was no military advantage
53:52
in that except to give that sacrifice, that burnt offering
53:57
sacrifice. So until the 60's, the word
54:01
Holocaust meant nuclear Holocaust and we should pay
54:05
attention to that. And that change happened during
54:09
my childhood because I remember, you know, hiding under the desks
54:14
because that was going to protect you from that nuclear
54:16
bomb. And then by the time I was in
54:20
high school, we were being made to watch movies like Fog and Fog
54:26
and Night, Night and Fog. And I remember, and that's from
54:32
the Eli Weisel book Night. And And so I remember going into
54:38
the bathroom and fainting because it's so much trauma that
54:43
you're internalizing by watching this.
54:47
And so we were bombarded at that point with Hollywood movies that
54:53
were all giving us that same story that we were then
54:56
internalizing. But it first meant nuclear
55:00
Holocaust. And I think we should be paying
55:03
attention to that now that you have all these drums of war that
55:07
are goading that kind of nuclear sacrifice.
55:12
Theresa, we are out of time. This is a really, really complex
55:18
topic and and it's also obviously taboo in many, many
55:23
circles. So for my audience who want to
55:28
follow more of your work, where can they go?
55:31
Yes, all of my work is at Third paradigm.substack.com and that
55:37
includes the videos that I put on YouTube and Rumble and also
55:42
the text and most importantly the comment threads.
55:46
So I hope that people will go and join in because that kind of
55:51
community where you can have real conversations, I think is
55:55
where we are putting this forward.
55:57
Thank you for for joining me in the changes.
56:01
Thank you so much, Jerry.