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Tom Segura (2025) - Losing 80 Pounds and Rewriting History · The Joe Rogan Recap

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  Welcome to the Joe Rogan recap and before we get going, please
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  follow us right here on Spotify to make sure you get sight of
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  our latest eisodes in your feed. O Today we are doing a deep dive
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  that really puts two big ideas side by side.
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  On one hand, you have this extreme, almost microscopic
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  discipline needed for, you know, peak personal performance.
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  Then on the other hand. The complete overwhelming chaos
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  of the outside world. I mean, we're talking ancient
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  history hidden in the Amazon, the modern media mess, all of
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  it. So we're going from tracking
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  every single gram of protein to uncovering entire civilizations
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  that rewrite history. It's a fascinating contrast.
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  Yeah. Our mission here is to really
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  pull these sources together for you to show the kind of radical
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  commitment it takes to transform yourself, but also the radical
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  transformation and how we're starting to understand history
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  and, well, current events. And the implications are just
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  staggering. I mean, we're going to show you
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  actionable things from the self improvement stuff.
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  But then these historical finds, they just, they change
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  everything you thought you knew. OK, so let's get into it.
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  The best place to start is with the discipline part, a case
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  study and personal transformation.
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  We're looking at an 80 LB weight loss.
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  Which is huge. Huge from a peak of 265 lbs all
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  the way down to 187. And this is not just, you know,
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  hitting the gym. This is a complete life
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  overhaul. And the key thing to understand
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  for you listening is that this isn't about just dieting.
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  It's about strategic nutrition. It's designed to keep your
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  muscle while you're in a deficit.
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  OK, break that down. The foundation, the absolute
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  core, is eating four times a day and hitting a hard minimum of
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  200 grams of protein every single day.
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  So that's 50 grams a meal. 50 grams a meal every single time.
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  And the reason that works, the reason that's the linchpin, is
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  because it basically hacks your hunger signals.
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  Right, you're not starving all the time.
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  Exactly. It lets you stay in a pretty
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  severe calorie deficit without losing your mind, without your
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  body eating up all your muscle. That's the real game changer.
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  And it's not just protein, it's strategic with carbs too, right?
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  Oh absolutely. The source material is very
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  clear. Full portions of good carbs.
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  We're talking sweet potatoes, white rice, but only on the
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  really intense workout days. Like leg day?
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  Specifically leg day. Yeah.
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  And on your rest days, those carbs get dialed way, way back.
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  You're just managing your fuel. It's pure science.
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  Yeah. I mean, even the pre workout
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  meal is a formula. It's Greek yogurt, whey protein,
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  some grains with honey, almond butter.
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  It's just targeted fuel. But here's my question.
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  Is that sustainable? I mean hitting 50 grams of
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  protein four times a day, every day.
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  Well, it's definitely a killer phase one plan, a bliss.
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  It sets the structure, shows you what's possible.
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  The sustainability, though, that comes from the accountability
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  piece. Your trainer, the trainer, Sean,
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  lifting four days a week with him because as the source says,
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  the workouts are always a little bit harder when he's there.
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  That external push? You just can't replicate that on
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  your own, not consistently. And that commitment forced a
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  whole lifestyle change. We're talking of 5:30 AM Wake
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  up. Sounds brutal.
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  It is brutal, but it was necessary to get the writing
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  work done for Bad Thoughts Season 2.
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  But the real secret to that? The thing that makes it all work
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  isn't the alarm clock. It's the bedtime.
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  It's the bedtime. You have to be in bed by 10,
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  maybe 10:30 PM. If you don't do that, the whole
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  system just falls apart. That's the real insight for you.
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  You can have the perfect diet, the perfect training plan, but
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  if your sleep is a mess, none of it matters.
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  And that morning workout, it pays you back mentally.
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  Oh, big time. It creates what they call good
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  momentum. It just sets the tone for the
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  entire day. You're calmer, you're more
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  focused and. There's a difference between the
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  weightlifting and the cardio A. Huge difference.
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  Lifting gives you energy, for sure.
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  Yeah, but the cardio, that's the thing that shuts off all the
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  chatter, all the anxiety, the noise in your head.
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  It's like a forced meditation. And a really small but crucial
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  detail in the source material is about adding just a little more
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  time, pushing from 45 minutes of cardio to a full hour.
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  That's where the magic happens. That's where the real games are,
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  that last 15 minutes when you're already tired and want to quit.
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  That's what actually extends your cardiovascular ability.
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  And this all connects to, you know, the big your picture of
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  just proactive health. I mean, 20 years goes by in a
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  flash. It really does.
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  And you've got a choice. You could be like RK Junior
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  doing 20 chips in his 70s. Or you can just let your bone
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  density, your V2 Max just fade away.
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  Which is a scary thought. And that drive to push yourself,
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  it naturally leads from the gym to, well, competition.
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  The sources are pretty adamant that everyone should try a
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  martial art at least once. Jujitsu boxing something.
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  Something just to learn what you don't know, to really confront
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  your own physical limits in a controlled way.
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  Because most people have no idea.
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  They think they can get in the fight.
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  The reality is you probably have, what, 10 good punches in
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  you? If that 10 effective powerful
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  punches before you are completely exhausted and
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  useless, you learn that on day one.
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  And you learn about the action versus reaction principle.
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  Which is why sucker punches work.
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  Action is always, always faster than your reaction.
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  Your brain just can't keep up, so it forces you into this state
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  of constant awareness. What's wild is how that
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  knowledge is spreading now. I mean kids are on YouTube
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  learning legit effective moves like a real triangle choke.
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  The. Baseline is just getting higher
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  and higher for everyone. Speaking of high baselines, that
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  brings us to Jake Paul. You know, in his fight with
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  Anthony Joshua, he showed real skill.
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  He was moving. He was avoiding shots until the
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  6th round. He's a legitimate athlete.
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  No question hyper competitive, but his career really highlights
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  the the cost of all this. We saw his big flaw against Nate
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  Diaz. The cardio he runs out of.
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  Gas. He runs out of gas, and the
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  perspective in the source material is pretty blunt.
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  He's what, 2829? He's made over $300 million.
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  The advice is to get out. The advice is to seriously think
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  about getting out soon because the price you pay for fighting
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  is just brutal. It's not just the physical
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  damage, it's depression, addiction, severe brain
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  imbalance. Yeah, they mentioned the punch
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  that broke his jaw. They said that one impact was
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  like 10 bunches of concussion damage hitting your brain all at
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  once. It's a price that keeps
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  accumulating and you don't get to pay it until much later in
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  life. So if that's what happens with
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  discipline and competition, what about when you mix in, like,
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  genetic frankishness? That's Alex Ferreira.
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  Oh, he's a total anomaly. Just frightening power.
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  He hit that punch machine and scored a one. 90 a 190 What was
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  Francis and Ganu's score? It was 129, so Pereira didn't
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  just beat it, he destroyed it, the referee, Mark Gudard, said.
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  The sound it made was ungodly. And his background, his ancestry
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  traces back to Amazon warriors. It's like this deep well of, I
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  don't know, genetics and dedication all rolled into one.
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  Which is actually the perfect transition from this one Amazon
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  warrior descendant to the secrets hidden by the Amazon
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  jungle itself. Right, because the scale of what
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  we're finding there just completely rewrites the books.
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  Let's start with the rainforest itself.
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  This is what's so wild. The idea that the Amazon, this
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  symbol of pure, untouched nature, isn't.
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  It's man made. A huge portion of its density
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  and biodiversity is essentially man made.
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  It's the result of ancient, sophisticated agriculture.
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  And we know this because of the soil.
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  The proof is literally in the dirt.
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  It's called Teraprata. Yeah, this thick dark man made
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  soil. It's full of compost and carbon.
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  It's nothing like the naturally poor soil around it.
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  This confirms a massive advanced civilization was there
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  cultivating the land. And that's where the Lidar
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  technology comes in. It's it's basically firing
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  lasers through the trees to map the ground.
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  It digitally strips the jungle away and what it's revealing is
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  just. I mean it's mind boggling.
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  We're seeing huge aqueducts, roads, massive symmetric
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  structures. It's the lost City of Z It's all
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  the stories that people like Percy Fawcett were chasing that
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  were dismissed as fantasy. They were real.
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  They were absolutely real and millions of people were there.
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  They were just wiped out by the diseases the Europeans brought
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  the cooties, as the source puts it, and the jungle just
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  swallowed everything in 100 years.
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  And it's not just South America. This is rewriting history in
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  North America to this discovery in Oregon.
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  The Rimrock Draw rock shelter. Yeah, they found evidence of
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  human occupied patients, stone tools, camel teeth, fragments.
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  And they dated it to when? 18,250 years ago. 18,000 years.
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  I mean, that just pushes the timeline for people being in
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  North America back by thousands of years.
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  It changes the entire migration story.
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  So you have the timeline of history being completely
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  rewritten, and then you have things that don't even seem to
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  fit in our history at all. You're talking about the
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  tridactyl mummies of Peru. The three fingered mummies,
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  Yeah, these are 1200 year old remains.
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  They're about 3 feet tall, big heads, and yes, three fingers
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  and three toes. And the craziest part is these
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  beings were seen in ancient artwork before, but everyone
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  just wrote it off as, you know, mythology.
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  But then they did CT scans, and the scans confirmed this is a
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  real being. It has ligaments, it has tissue,
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  but its structure is alien. Different scapula, right?
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  And no sternum. No sternum.
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  It has ribs but no breastbone connecting them.
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  And get this, one of them had metallic gold implants in its
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  forehead and one of the mummies. I was pregnant.
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  That is just, I don't even know what to do with that
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  information, which kind of brings us full circle back to
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  the chaos of modern life. Exactly.
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  We started with the discipline it takes to get up at 5:30 AM,
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  But there's also the discipline it takes to do deep creative
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  work like writing. It's a struggle.
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  It's that fear of the unknown. Your brain just wants a
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  distraction, wants to go watch YouTube or a documentary,
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  anything to avoid the hard work. And that personal struggle is
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  happening inside this giant, chaotic information environment.
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  I mean, social media rewards outrage.
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  You have influencers harassing people like Andrei Arlovski just
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  to try and go viral. And the biggest source of that
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  distrust and noise right now is still the Epstein files.
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  The way they're being slowly released, it just fuels this
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  perception that something or someone is being protected.
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  It got so weird that Bill Clinton's own spokesman put out
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  a statement demanding the full, unredacted records about him be
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  released. Which is a wild PR move.
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  It just shows you how managed this all is.
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  And then you have these chilling comments like from Bill Gates in
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  an interview. He said he's dead now, so you
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  have to be careful. What does that even mean?
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  It implies a threat that continues.
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  And it absolutely supports the homicide theory.
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  The forensic pathologist Michael Baden, his testimony was
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  crucial. He said the broken Hyode bone
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  was far more consistent with a homicide than a suicide.
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  And then you hear that his cellmate was this like giant ex
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  cop murderer. You put all those pieces
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  together and the official story just, it's hard to swallow.
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  So that's the final layer of chaos.
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  The media itself, it's so manipulated now.
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  Bots, corporations, bad actors, they're all shaping what you
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  see. It's a new part of our society.
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  It's. Like your information diet.
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  If you spend all day scrolling through that junk, it's like
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  eating food with 0 nutrients. It just leaves your mind starved
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  and confused because the line between what's real and what's
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  simulated is being blurred on purpose.
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  Which is why the escape, the counter to all of this has to be
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  things like comedy and art. You see the popularity of stand
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  up right now, you know, even clean acts or filling arenas.
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  People are desperate for that shared, authentic moment of
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  relief. So we've covered this huge range
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  from the intense discipline for your physical health, the
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  macros, the alarms, to the crushing cost of competition and
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  these overwhelming historical secrets and, you know, modern
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  information warfare. And we're living in this
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  paradox. You can spend so much time and
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  energy trying to hyper optimize your personal health.
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  You're tracking protein, you're doing red light therapy, all of
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  it. But then you let this chaotic
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  information environment just destroy your mental health.
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  What have you really gained? O the provocative thought we
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  want to leave you with is this. When the technology and the
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  manipulation are making it almost impossible to see the
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  line between reality and simulation, just consuming
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  information isn't good enough. You have to apply the same
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  discipline to your information diet that that 80 LB
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  transformation required for a food diet.
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  So how much of your energy should go to optimizing yourself
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  versus trying to figure out the chaos outside?