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- 0:00Your brother had ten of Jehovah’ s Witnesses. Oh so shaped all like
- 0:06that on half moon with their backpacks full of watchtowers and they all began to
- 0:12laugh. He says yes now, we catch him, poor thing, we
- 0:18' re gonna do it, we' re gonna tear him apart. He
- 0:22fell. He says yes now, he fell. And I already told the
- 0:26brother I was going with me. Sit down brother feel like being madri a
- 0:30marriage, sit down I said let' s horita talk to these rapacious wolves
- 0:36and tell your brother what they want to talk about. He says anything you
- 0:42want. We know the whole Bible. He says anything you want. All
- 0:50right. I told him let' s talk about the heavenly inheritance and they
- 0:56started laughing Mira. Shall we make one of you ten the wisest? Sit
- 1:07here in front of the wisest, who knows the most? If the one
- 1:14who knows the most can' t, the others won' t be able
- 1:21to see which one of you can do more than the one who sits more.
- 1:26And already one Omero says with me it is good to sit. I
- 1:30said let' s see. I said let' s see. Peter'
- 1:34s Second, chapter three. It says from verse five. I' m
- 1:48going to tell you how the plot was where they came out shot like hell.
- 1:56Says fart seconds three, five. Well, I' m going to
- 2:00the one for us to grab the yarn. Loved. This is the second
- 2:08letter I write to you and both awake with exhortation. Your clean understanding so
- 2:17that you may remember the words that have been spoken before. By the holy
- 2:24prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior given by your apostles, knowing
- 2:37first this that in the last days mockers will come walking according to their own
- 2:57lusts and saying where is the promise of their advent, For from the day
- 3:04when the fathers slept all things remain, as from the beginning of creation.
- 3:15Look carefully, they willingly ignore that in ancient times the heavens were made by
- 3:32the word of God and also the earth there. Take a good look,
- 3:51Jehovah’ s Witnesses They say there is a banishment of this symbolic heavens?
- 4:00They say that there are symbolic heavens, that there are literal heavens For them,
- 4:13For Jehovah’ s Witnesses, the symbolic heavens are governments, presidents,
- 4:19kings, princes, etc, those who rule in the countries. For them
- 4:25are the symbolic heavens. For them the literal skies are the ones that we
- 4:34see where the birds fly, go back where the planes fly, those that
- 4:40get there to the airport. Those are the literal heavens. Or the space
- 4:46where the stars are are literal skies because they are seen. But Jehovah’
- 4:51s Witnesses do not accept the spirit heavens to them or heavenly ones. For
- 5:01them, that' s not good. All right, everybody here says these
- 5:09ignore voluntarily. When it says to whom it refers to the unbelievers, to
- 5:17the hard of heart, because of that it is spoken that in the ancient
- 5:23time and not grind it that in the time were made by the word of
- 5:30God the heavens and also the earth? Your brother asks the one who was
- 5:38there, the one who stepped forward to see Fulano. Here, verse five
- 5:44says that in ancient times the heavens and the earth were made by the word?
- 5:57You tell me, your witness of j what kind of heavens did the
- 6:02word symbolic or literal ay says this how he said no, no, for
- 6:14again which heavens were made by the word of God, literal or symbolic?
- 6:25Because you don' t believe in the spiritual ones, which of the two
- 6:32says woe, then says, for I don' t know how you don
- 6:35' t know? What do you mean, you don' t know?
- 6:40It says here that in ancient times were made by the word of God,
- 6:46the heavens, and the earth that comes from the water, because they say
- 6:55genesis that everything was covered with water and that then the lord commanded the waters
- 7:01that are upon the waters to be separated and called the dry earth, and
- 7:06the waters that are above he called heaven, and called clouds or heavens to
- 7:12the expanse, then which heavens and which is earth? True it was literal
- 7:16this one, not this one, like this one doesn' t tell me
- 7:25yes or no. Well, yeah, sure, yeah, and there'
- 7:30s nowhere else to make me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
- 7:31A ok already said the literal. Point out the brother who already said literal.
- 7:34Put it there in a little book that was the literal heavens and also
- 7:42the earth. The land that God first raised was literal or symbolic. Not
- 7:48so, for this was also literal ok. We' ve already had two,
- 7:57we' re still reading, so the world here already speaks the word
- 8:07world, here it doesn' t speak word earth anymore. Now he calls
- 8:09it the world, the world of that time was drowned. What do you
- 8:16mean when you say that the world perished in denial when the flood came?
- 8:22The world is calling to humanity that at the time of Noah then is calling
- 8:30the world to humanity that was drowned and calls it earth to what is literally
- 8:35saying that which was literally ok. We go well, but the heavens and
- 8:46the earth that exist now are reserved by the same word, the same word
- 9:01that raised them kept for fire on the day of judgment and per there again
- 9:13I ask you which heavens and which earth is reserved by the word for fire,
- 9:24which literal or symbolic ay says how difficult. You ask them no,
- 9:35no, how we don' t. This is the doctrine of the light
- 9:39of the world. Or ay güey, ay say what trouble. He'
- 9:45s getting me in. It says, then, literal, but if you
- 9:52say that literal is going to burn reserved by fire, then it crashes and
- 9:58we say in Mexico we agree. Oh, that' s it. I
- 10:03think it' s gonna burn, too, and you' ve already given
- 10:07me the reason. No, no, no, it' s just that
- 10:09I made you balls, which balls you' re saying yourself. Or if
- 10:15we don' t come back and tell me again which heaven and which earth
- 10:18is going to burn, or tell me they' re not literal, are
- 10:26they symbolic? Yeah, yeah, yeah, symbolic, yeah, Amena ok
- 10:30point out the brother who said symbolic, point him out so he doesn'
- 10:35t back down. If you say that symbolic earth is governments, now tell
- 10:39me who ungodly men are, for here it says in verse seven that on
- 10:46the day of judgment heaven and earth will be burned by fire and destruction of
- 10:52men. Now what if the literal heavens, if the symbolic heavens are governments
- 11:03and they will burn because they are evil governments, who are the ungodly men?
- 11:09No, because the bad ones are bad, too. Why didn'
- 11:13t you include them there with the heavens? Oh, he says, because
- 11:18the truth I don' t know, I don' t tell him it
- 11:24' s that you' re wrong and he got up, he doesn'
- 11:26t say I can' t, I can' t, I can'
- 11:26t. He got up and went to hide over there today wait for you
- 11:31to come to them, you are the wisest wait for you come peace,
- 11:35but it was over. We' re just getting started and there' s
- 11:39another and another and another and another. The ten went by and none could
- 11:46or why. No brother and so much that they care and on Sundays they
- 11:58go home to house, bless their watchman and brother to go out with these
- 12:03things. If I explain, brother, you and I have a powerful doctrine.
- 12:16Like one of my brothers said he went on to sing. It is
- 12:20not ours, because here we came to learn it thanks to the authority we
- 12:30have in this people, that there is a servant of God. We'
- 12:37re still reading more. O beloved, do not ignore this, for with
- 12:45the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years as one
- 12:48day. The Lord does not delay his promise, according to some, but
- 12:58is patient toward us, not wanting any, but all to proceed to repentance.
- 13:11But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night,
- 13:22that is, without warning, in which the heavens will pass by with
- 13:33a great roar. And the elements what the elements are, all that element.
- 13:46I don' t know if you remember the high school they taught us,
- 13:50the periodic table of elements, iron, iron, carbon, oxygen,
- 13:54nitrogen, cement, glass, wood, water, not all elements. They
- 14:03' re all here, says the elements. Again in what verse in the
- 14:11ten that the thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass by
- 14:16with great noise and the elements here do not change the word, here element,
- 14:24all that you see are burning elements, will be destroyed and the earth
- 14:37and the works therein will be burned. Since all these things are to be
- 14:48destroyed, how should you not walk in holy and godly manner, waiting and
- 14:56hastening for the coming of the Day of God, in which the heavens are
- 15:05kindled which heavens, for the literal ones are to be burned, the brother
- 15:15heaven is to be burned, the oxygen is to be finished, the mospheres
- 15:18are to be burned, the earth is to be burned, the heavens are
- 15:24to be burned, and the elements, being burned, are to be melted.
- 15:35What do you understand by melting? The element. What happens to the
- 15:43butter when you put it in the hot griddle, leave it there for a
- 15:48while. It melts, melts, melts and burns and smokes out and smells
- 15:54sometimes ugly the elements. Being melted will go all iron, iron, everything,
- 16:03all silver, copper, is damage. Everything' s going to melt,
- 16:07it' s going to make liquid, it' s going to change
- 16:10matter. They' ll melt. But we, the light of the world,
- 16:18hope, according to his promises and the oath he made, and which
- 16:26are two immutable things, we wait for new threads, a new earth in
- 16:37which justice dwells from now on. Blessed and praised the Lord