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Ep. 971: Rut Fresh Radio - The Best Whitetail Week is Here! Are All Day Sits Worth It? · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, everyone, welcome back to Retfresh. This is this
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  Speaker 1: is the peak excitement for this whole entire season for
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  Speaker 1: Rough Fresh. In my opinion, this is the November fifth
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  Speaker 1: through November twelfth episode. This is the week when everyone
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  Speaker 1: schedules their vacation. This is when people are doing all
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  Speaker 1: days since this is when some potential chaos that can
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  Speaker 1: bounce in your favor or in the other direction. And
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  Speaker 1: so my challenge for you guys this week is to
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  Speaker 1: go back and reflect on last year and maybe you
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  Speaker 1: made a mistake, Maybe you didn't grind through this time
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  Speaker 1: period enough, maybe you gave up a little early, maybe
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  Speaker 1: you came up with the excuses, or maybe everything came
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  Speaker 1: back together perfectly and you didn't overthink it. And so
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  Speaker 1: I think this week the challenge is to realize the
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  Speaker 1: only thing you need to beat is yourself and your
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  Speaker 1: own thought process to have success this week. And that
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  Speaker 1: might be different for everyone. Maybe you're waiting on a
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  Speaker 1: specific deer to show up, or maybe you have some
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  Speaker 1: family or friends that are in from the area and
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  Speaker 1: you want to make sure you are a good host
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  Speaker 1: or a good friend or a good family member and
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  Speaker 1: encourage people and have a great time this is the
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  Speaker 1: week we've been waiting for all year. Once this week
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  Speaker 1: is gone, we're gonna be waiting for it next year.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be waiting for fifty one weeks later from today.
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  Speaker 1: So we have a lot of really great guests this week.
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  Speaker 1: We have Grant Watson, who shot a really big deer
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  Speaker 1: in Iowa. We have Chris West from Pennsylvania who's headed
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  Speaker 1: to Ohio who's been bounced around from both of those states.
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  Speaker 1: We have Jared Vanheast who tagged a Michigan buck. We
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  Speaker 1: have Tom Alexander all the way down from Texas. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what we have this week. As you know, Roughresh
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  Speaker 1: is brought to you by land dot com, the leading
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  Speaker 1: or hunting properties here in the US. Let's kick things
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  Speaker 1: off with Grant Watson. Here we go. Good luck this week,
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  Speaker 1: have fun, and enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: First up on the line, we have Grant Watson. Man,
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  Speaker 1: you just killed hammer in Iowa. How does it feel?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a town bittersweet because part of me is
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  Speaker 3: glad to be done and I don't have the anxiety
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  Speaker 3: of a tag in my pocket and watching everyone else
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  Speaker 3: shoot deer. But then the other part of me is like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want to be done yet. I do
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  Speaker 3: have a landowner's tag, but I don't have a deer
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  Speaker 3: that I would consider a trophy out there, just a
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  Speaker 3: couple of call bucks. So I'm kind of out of
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  Speaker 3: the game, but not totally. Well, it's pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 1: You're out of the game for good reason, because you
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  Speaker 1: just you just smoked in upper seventies and that's that
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  Speaker 1: is awesome. So I've been torturing all of our guests
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  Speaker 1: with a quick trivia question. So I've already had an
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  Speaker 1: Iowall guess previously, so your question might be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit harder, and I doubt anyone would get this right.
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  Speaker 1: But according to recent data, what is the population of
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  Speaker 1: deer white tailed deer in the state of Iowa?
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  Speaker 2: Really hard? Just take a guess? Do that?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't even have a guess. You got a guess,
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  Speaker 3: like the entire state? How many deer here? Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: got to be over it's got to be over like
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  Speaker 3: a million, two hundred and ninety thousand. That was way
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  Speaker 3: off two and ninety thousand. While I figured there would
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  Speaker 3: be close to a million, but I don't know. Well
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  Speaker 3: that's not that that's less than I thought.
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  Speaker 1: That is that Well in the craziest thing is the
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  Speaker 1: highest gun harvest ever was two thousand and five with
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy seven thousand. Oh so, like there's
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  Speaker 1: obviously some ebb and flow of deer population in the
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  Speaker 1: state of Iowa. But anyways, tell me about your setup
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  Speaker 1: on how you can when, when did you kill this
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  Speaker 1: deer and how did it come together?
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So, uh went out been kind of hunting on the
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  Speaker 3: fringes of this area. It wasn't my main target. I
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  Speaker 3: have another deer there that I have, you know, four
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  Speaker 3: sheds too. He's a smaller deer, but the history is
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  Speaker 3: a big important to me. But there was this other
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  Speaker 3: deer that I call Spud. So there's Stickers, the one
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  Speaker 3: that was mainly after the Spud, and I knew that
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  Speaker 3: if Spud walked by, I was going to shoot him
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  Speaker 3: because just being in his power. There's two big shooter bucks.
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  Speaker 3: So last week stuff was kind of ramping up. I
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  Speaker 3: kind of started buck hunting around the twenty fifth. It
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  Speaker 3: seems like every year I always have like a giant
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  Speaker 3: on camera the twenty fifth through like the twenty ninth.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like every big deer I'm following, they'll be
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  Speaker 3: on their feet during that time period. So Monday I
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  Speaker 3: went out there. I hit a south wind and I
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  Speaker 3: don't have a stand set up for a south wind,
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  Speaker 3: so I actually sat on the ground and I had
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  Speaker 3: this deer going back to bed and so I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I have a fifty to fifty shot of where I
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  Speaker 3: have to be. And I went to go slip up
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  Speaker 3: and I was gonna sit on a like a this
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  Speaker 3: farmer aisle, a row of dirt, and I was gonna
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  Speaker 3: sit on this dirt pile. Well, there was a dough
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  Speaker 3: font feeding in the stubble. So I just stayed back,
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  Speaker 3: and I stayed in the cedar tree. I just stood
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  Speaker 3: against a cedar tree and cut a little hole into it.
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  Speaker 3: And this year ended up standing up at one hundred
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  Speaker 3: yards away. And then he went straight into the bedding
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  Speaker 3: area where I have a stand in there. But I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't hunt that, and I was waiting for the right
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  Speaker 3: time to go in there. So I filmed him Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: Thursday night, I went out. I actually saw stickers or
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  Speaker 3: I went out Thursday morning, saw stickers would have shot him,
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  Speaker 3: but a dough was just barely on the edge of
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  Speaker 3: my wind, and my wind was cutting, you know, my
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  Speaker 3: thermals could have been sucking towards the river, and she
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  Speaker 3: was just right on that line. And if she wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: boogered me, I would have shot him. But it was
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  Speaker 3: fast forward. Saturday. I ended up going out Sat all
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  Speaker 3: day kind of was raining, but the sun was supposed
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  Speaker 3: to come out in the afternoon, and I figured once
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  Speaker 3: that happened, you know, my odds of seeing either one
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  Speaker 3: of those deer would go up. And at five point
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  Speaker 3: twenty I looked over and I passed a nice buck
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  Speaker 3: in the day earlier twice and I had a forecorn
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  Speaker 3: chasing this dough around, like well, she might be in
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  Speaker 3: like estrus. And so the bigger buck came around and
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  Speaker 3: I passed him. And then at five twenty I saw
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  Speaker 3: Spud and he was by this watering hole in the
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  Speaker 3: bedding area and he did a big old snort wheeze,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just down wind this betting area on a
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  Speaker 3: tight pinch, so like less likely for stuff to get
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  Speaker 3: behind me. And he was at fifty yards and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, well, I'm not gonna I'm not a believer
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  Speaker 3: in shooting the deer of fifty yards because I get excited.
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  Speaker 3: So he snore, Whez ran this other buck off, and
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  Speaker 3: I said, it's meant to be. You know, he'll he'll
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  Speaker 3: hook back around. And I texted my dad. You know,
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  Speaker 3: my dad had a bad stroke last year, so that's
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  Speaker 3: really the the highlight of the whole thing is to
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  Speaker 3: have him in town. So he flew into town. So anyways,
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  Speaker 3: I text my dad said, man, I just saw Spud.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think he's going to loop back around.
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  Speaker 3: And at six to twenty, here he comes. He looked
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  Speaker 3: back around and he took a sharp turn north and
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  Speaker 3: I was just about to hit him with my grunt
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  Speaker 3: tube and it was the extinguisher, but I did it.
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  Speaker 3: I had it to my mouth and I just wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to see what he was going to do.
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  Speaker 3: Five more steps and he hooked back hard. He came
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  Speaker 3: and he worked a pinoak scrape right in front of
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  Speaker 3: my tree. And I'm standing and facing the tree. At
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  Speaker 3: this point, I said, Okay, if he goes right, he's
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  Speaker 3: den If he goes left, he's dead. And he comes
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  Speaker 3: in he hooks right around the tree. I drew back
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  Speaker 3: and stopped him at fifteen yards and I smoked him,
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  Speaker 3: and then from there, I you know, I hadn't tracked
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  Speaker 3: a deer with my dad since twenty sixteen. So I
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  Speaker 3: went and I left. I slipped back from my waiters
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  Speaker 3: and walked out through the river, so I had really
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  Speaker 3: good access and I waited for my dad to arrive
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  Speaker 3: and we were able to recover him. So it was
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  Speaker 3: my second best buck to date. My biggest buck is
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  Speaker 3: actually the second buck on the wall back there. He's
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  Speaker 3: one eighty two spud went. I taped him out one
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  Speaker 3: seventy seven and seven eight, So I was pretty excited.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, that that's amazing. I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of key lessons in there. Patience is a really
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  Speaker 1: big one. Another one too, where it's like people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: their brain short circuits and they're like, oh, he's fifty
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  Speaker 1: yards is my only chance?
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  Speaker 2: Is my only chance?
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  Speaker 1: I just got to try to squeeze it through or
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  Speaker 1: try to make this long shot that I'm probably not
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  Speaker 1: fully capable of like most people, and your patient trusted
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  Speaker 1: the plan, and dude, that is that is awesome. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what we all dream about. That is awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I've hung the stands back in July, you know,
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  Speaker 3: specifically for stickers, but I didn't know that this year
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  Speaker 3: was going to blow up the way he did, and
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  Speaker 3: so I kind of played down the fringe. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's it was November first, Like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: need to be launching an arrow at a deer. And
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  Speaker 3: you know how it is, just as well as probably
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  Speaker 3: any other listener on this podcast. If you get a
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  Speaker 3: deer to you know, four or five six years old,
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  Speaker 3: and you shoot him, you make a marginal shot. You
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  Speaker 3: might not kill them initially, but then infection kills him. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it takes three four more years to get a deer
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  Speaker 3: like that to fill that shoes, especially the genetics you know,
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  Speaker 3: that is going to break that bit and Crockett score.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think that's that's very timely, very
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  Speaker 1: timely advice for everyone to not force it. And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times, you know this pretend you're watching a
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  Speaker 1: two year old or a three year old, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of times they come back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an hour later, forty minutes later, they loop back around,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well, I'm really glad I didn't
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  Speaker 1: take a really crappy because you know, you end up
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  Speaker 1: getting the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's very timely.
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  Speaker 1: Advice for everyone because we all want it to happen
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  Speaker 1: so bad, right, That's why we're that's why we're out there,
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  Speaker 1: That's why you set up in July. So now that
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  Speaker 1: is that is awesome and what an incredible experience. Now
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  Speaker 1: looking from the fifth of the twelfth, this is this
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  Speaker 1: is going to this is like big buck carnage.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: The amount of big gear that hit the dirt during
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  Speaker 1: this week is in the Midwest and probably most of
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  Speaker 1: the country, Like, this is the week we all have
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  Speaker 1: been waiting for. What's what what is top of mind
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  Speaker 1: for you right now to like, for anyone listening that
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  Speaker 1: you know didn't kill one on November. First of what
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  Speaker 1: would you be focusing on? And what are you focusing on?
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  Speaker 1: Because you have Landlanders tag still.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so if I if I had my state wide
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  Speaker 3: tag in the pocket, I would still be kind of
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  Speaker 3: close to the betting areas are at pinch it seems like.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to be an expert because I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm just learning, so sure, but like this a pointer
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  Speaker 3: behind me right here. I've shot him on November seven
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  Speaker 3: into twenty twenty one, and he was locked on a
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  Speaker 3: dough on November fourth, And right now I think my
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  Speaker 3: bigger deer locked on a dough because I haven't seen them,
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  Speaker 3: and typically it seems like they're moving on their feet
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more, but this year seems like maybe
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  Speaker 3: they found that first dough already. So right now i'd
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  Speaker 3: be kind of, you know, I wouldn't give up about
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  Speaker 3: your target deer, like it's probably not dead. I'd be
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  Speaker 3: in tight to the betting. I'd be willing to kind
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  Speaker 3: of risk the wind a little bit more. And all
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  Speaker 3: day sits. I mean, if you can get off work,
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  Speaker 3: and if you can't get off work, like just you
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  Speaker 3: got to get out there as soon as you can.
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  Speaker 3: It can still happen in last thirty minutes of daylight.
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  Speaker 3: But once he breaks from that dough, he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be on his feet looking for another one, and you
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  Speaker 3: should probably try to be there something. So I just
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  Speaker 3: kind of play that. I don't have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: luck past the eighth, like the eighth through the the eleventh,
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  Speaker 3: but come the eleventh through the eighteenth, I have way
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  Speaker 3: more luck because it seems like they're running a lot more. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I just kind of play down the down wind of
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  Speaker 3: dough betting or really big pinch points in the cover
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  Speaker 3: I hunt. I mean, I'm just hunting a pinch because
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  Speaker 3: the deer can kind of bed just about anywhere and
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  Speaker 3: end up. But I gotta try to be in that
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  Speaker 3: one spot and using historical data. The biggest thing I
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  Speaker 3: think where guys make mistakes is I have a deer
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  Speaker 3: over here that I would shoot, and I have a
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  Speaker 3: deer over here I would shoot. And you might want
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  Speaker 3: to shoot deer A more than B, but B might
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  Speaker 3: be daylighting and deer A might not be killable on
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  Speaker 3: the farm that you're hunting. So I used to catch
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  Speaker 3: myself and I still do bouncing back and forth between farms.
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  Speaker 3: Now is the time to just kind of pick one
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  Speaker 3: and go with it. But if you have a cell
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  Speaker 3: camera showing you, hey, this year is daylight right now,
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  Speaker 3: I would not be afraid to get out of my tree,
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  Speaker 3: go to that farm and get in that tree and
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  Speaker 3: just give it a shot. Yeah, because if there's a
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  Speaker 3: hot dough under your tree, you're probably gonna whack her
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  Speaker 3: in at night time. I mean, if you have rgular cameras,
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  Speaker 3: you can go check regular cameras, like the time sensitive
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  Speaker 3: information is right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's easy to get scatter brain.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's uh. The only time I wish there was
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  Speaker 1: two of me is this week right now, where it's like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could be in due spots at once.
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  Speaker 1: So that's really good advice. Now, all day sits they're
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  Speaker 1: a grind. Anyone that says they're not a grind is line.
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  Speaker 1: What advice do you have for someone that's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard this all day sits. Everyone says, you just
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: got to be in a tree. I have work off.
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  Speaker 1: How do you how do you make the day go
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  Speaker 1: by without pitting your head against the tree?
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  Speaker 2: Go I'm bored?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's funny because Saturday was really boring. But
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  Speaker 3: I knew that I knew that I was so close
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  Speaker 3: to the betting area, like something because could happen, like
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  Speaker 3: you never know it could it could happen to get
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  Speaker 3: the moment you used to tell yourself that I always packed,
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  Speaker 3: you know, my lunch, and usually I like took a
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  Speaker 3: roll of Star Wars with me, like eat a Starbust
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  Speaker 3: or something I watch the like the White Tailed Cribs.
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  Speaker 5: I throw in my ear pods.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm like really bored. But you gotta stay alert
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  Speaker 3: because if a those come running by, yeah, well you
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  Speaker 3: better be ready and not messing around. But I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think all day sits are grind for sure,
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  Speaker 3: but you got to kind of remove the pressures. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: there's no pressure to actually fill my tag like I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we all want to fill our tag, but really just
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: being out there and enjoying nature. I mean, it's got
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  Speaker 3: to stay mentally tough through it. Don't get discouraged when
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: other people are shooting deer or thinking, hey, the rut's
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  Speaker 3: not going on, because it could switch in a blink
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  Speaker 3: of eye and you just have to be there to
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: capitalize on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go from having the worst season ever
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  Speaker 1: to the best season ever in a matter of ten seconds.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's the magic of this time of year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, on a scale one to ten, ten being this
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  Speaker 1: might be the best week of the entire year, one
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  Speaker 1: being it's gonna be the worst. Where does this fall
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  Speaker 1: November fifth to the twelfth.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. On my spots I hunt out West.
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  Speaker 3: I actually like about the the eleventh through the eighteenth,
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  Speaker 3: but I would say it's probably got to be as
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  Speaker 3: close to a nine. I mean, my cameras are rolling.
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  Speaker 3: It also helps this year I have a lot more
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  Speaker 3: shooter deer on trail camera. So yeah, I mean, if
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  Speaker 3: I if I had another state wide tag, I'd be
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  Speaker 3: locked into a tree all day right now, because I
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  Speaker 3: think it's gonna happen, especially about this weekend. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we have cooler temperatures this year, at least in Iowa
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  Speaker 3: then years past where some years I've been hunting and
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  Speaker 3: it's like seventy degrees November fifth, and that sucks. So
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  Speaker 3: I think I think this is going to be a
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  Speaker 3: big week. A lot of big deer are going to
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  Speaker 3: hit the ground between now and Sunday, and then I
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  Speaker 3: think there will be another way of them.
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  Speaker 2: Love it, love it well.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations once again, Grant, good luck the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. Awesome that your dad is able to
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  Speaker 1: be there with the recovery. I know that's really special
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  Speaker 1: for you and him and so Di congratulations once again.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you, Jake.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: All Right, we have shared with the Habitat podcast who
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: recently shot a Michigan buck.
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  Speaker 2: How's it feel, man, Oh.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: Buddy, it feels great.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: It feels great to have a tag notched and you know,
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: shake the rust off if you will, So thank you.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: It's awesome.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, No, that's super exciting.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: And so in Michigan, was this off of I know
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: you hunt kind of the full spectrum of the state.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Was this way up north or was this more further south?
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: It's closer to home. Okay, Yeah, so southeast part of
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: the state.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Wonderful, wonderful. And so I know you were using a decoy.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I've never been I've never been brave enough to use one.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: So go ahead and convince me and everyone else while
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: we need to use a decoy, and how it worked.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: Well, I haven't been brave enough either until this time.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: I might have used one once in Iowa for the
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: heck of it, six years ago. But I've been hunting
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: this this farm, a really nice eight point out there,
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: and Thursday Friday last week, I.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Believe it was. I had him at.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: Forty fifty yards twice. Super aggressive deer, he's running off
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: other deer. He's a man in the area.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Put it that way.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: So knowing that I grun him in, he come in
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: and he wouldn't see any deer. It's very mature timber.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: It's not my farm. If it was my farm, the
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: timber it I'll be cut right. So it's very mature timber.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: And he can see so he's Caesar's no deer. And
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: he does this to me twice. So then we had
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: a Halloween camping weekend with the kids, and so I
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: get back in there Sunday night and I was talking
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: to my buddy and I'm like, God, I got.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: To think, I have to use a decoy. Can I
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: borrow your decoy?
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: Because if he if he if I grunt at him
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: and he comes in and there's no deer there. He's
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: he's wise to this. So I thought a decoy in
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: the timber. That sounds insane, you know. And plus I
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: have all my saddle gear on my back and picking
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: a new tree and going in deeper than I was before,
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: kind of trying to get just downwind of where he
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: walks out of the swamp. I set up, I get
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: up a tree and it's just quiet. There's no wind,
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: it's a little warmer, nothing's going on, even the doors
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: weren't moving very well, and so I tickle the horns
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: a little bit again Michigan. I don't do this a lot,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: but this guy's aggressive and I've seen him be aggressive,
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: so I'm going to be aggressive.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: And then I tickle the horns.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: About fifteen minutes later, I look off to my right,
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: which is my weak side in the settle, right handed,
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: and this buck steps out. They said, it's a nice
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: nine point. He's coming kind of above me on this
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: ridge and starting to get downwind. Well, I had the
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: deco aut and find of me, like you're supposed to
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: do apparently, and I have him circle down wind, which
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: would be in front of me. He's going down win
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: behind me too, so I had you know that the
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: time is ticking. But what was so cool about it
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: all he was doing. He's just locked on that decoy,
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, stopped and stared for you know, probably five minutes.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: I'm getting twisted around in the saddle with my weak side,
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: starting to choke myself on the on the.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Teather, you know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: And then he starts coming in down wind. But as
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: he's doing that, he's coming closer and closer and closer
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: to the decoy.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: He's pulling it to this decoy, and again.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: He just stop and stare, stop and stare. So every
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: time he stop, I would turn a little more get ready,
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: and I ended up being a point to where I
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: couldn't turn anymore with my my teather, and he was
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: at twenty one yards and I drew back right when
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: he crossed behind this tree and again just staring at
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: the decoy, and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: between him and my tree at this point so he
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: can look up. And yeah, and he had no interest
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: in what I was doing anything about it. Laser focus,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: laser focus, which is kind of the message I'm trying
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: to get across here. And yeah, I ended up shooting
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: him at twenty yards, I think because he was on
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: alert for that decoy. He I know, he dropped yea,
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: and my bow was fairly quiet, but he dropped me,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: and I hit him in the spine, put him down,
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: threw another one in him, cut myself on the broad head,
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: reloading blood all over the place.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: That was awesome, and he didn't go anywhere.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: But I just I couldn't believe hauling in that decoy
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: like six hundred yards setting it up in the timber.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: It sucked this deer in for sure. When he first
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: left the swamp, he was going off the property in
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: a different direction.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's one of those deals where I like your neighbor.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Let's say you guys had a shared lane, and they're like,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: what the heck is Jared doing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: He's bringing a decoy in.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: He's out of his saddle and he's bringing that thing
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: in the timber and it'll work for you. So I mean,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that's that's the funny thing of it, really interesting. So
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I mean understanding you had multiple encounters to understand kind
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: of like the behavior of that deer, and like, hey man,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I think this is actually going to work. It wasn't
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: necessarily like a blind shot in the dark, but dude,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it worked.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: That's congratulations.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: That's a thank you, thank you.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: I ended up buying a decoy when I got home
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: that night, and it's on my you know, it's in
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: my truck ready for Iowa tomorrow.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: And I dropped my buddy's back off.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: But I guess, I mean, the open chimber in my
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: brain is kind of like a field, right right, They
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: can see forever, there's no cover. That's where you normally
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: would use a decoy, at least what I've seen, so
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: in my brain it made sense to try. Now, it's
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: a long hike and you got to haul this thing
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: all the way in on your back and everything else,
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: but uh, it ended up working, man and one exactly.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I love that man.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Congratulations, So thank you. You know we talked here. You're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you're packing your bags and going from Michigan Iowa. That's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: pretty darn awesome looking here in the future. And based
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: off of the activity you've been seeing, what is top
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of mind? What is your strategy because obviously you're traveling there,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: so you have a limited time to hopefully connect with
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the buck. What is top of mind to make the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: most out of your trip to Iowa. And this could
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: be relatable for anyone that's going from Pennsylvania to Ohio
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: or Alabama to Illinois.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, great, great question. I've been thinking about that quite
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: a bit. You know, here in Michigan, things have been
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: hit or miss over the last couple of days. Yesterday
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: morning was great. Other than that, it's been a little
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: bit hit or miss. I think I know some of
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: the bucks are lockedown doors already. I've seen videos from
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: my buddies in Iowa Andy's out there right now and
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: he's not seeing a ton of movement.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: It's pretty slow.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Our buddy Aaron's out there, so it's just about to
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: kick off.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I believe out.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: There, and I'm sure different farms are different stuff going on,
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: right But my strategy is to get out there, cover
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: a ton of ground day one, day two, and really
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: find beat down scrapes, hot sign areas. I know this
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: is all typical stuff, but when you have a lot
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: of ground to cover and and there's no set stands,
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: there's no you know, real food plot.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go there and I'm gonna burn rubber
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: on the boots and the.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Bike and get four or five spots set up, get
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: some cameras out, and then the weather looks to be
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: pretty good, so I'm gonna just can't see what happens.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: You'll probably hunt long into the afternoon, if not all day,
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: and then obviously be out there for the eating.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, So when you're when you're burning burning boot leather here,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: are you going into thicker areas or is it more
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: edge exterior type? And I'm just kind of picturing what
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the farm may look like in Iowa, but picturing there's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: probably some thick draws or some thicker parts of the timber.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Are you going in there and looking around and poking around?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Is that your plan?
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going full aggressive.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, I think if it was Michigan, i'd hold back,
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: but different pressure set up out there with a deer.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I'm going till I bump deer, till I see what
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: I want to see, and you know, hoping that the
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: mindset of that buck this time of year, I'll be
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: easily forgettable or at least partly forgettable for a little while,
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: so I can get back in there once I see
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: what I want to see.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, some of those bucks are starting to have that
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: crazy look in their eye. I like, I've gotten some
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: videos and I'm like, oh, that dude is he's feeling it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: He's not as careful as maybe as what it would
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: have been two weeks ago. And so I think that's
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a really great piece of advice for someone that doesn't
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: have an inventory or intel and don't really know where
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to necessarily start, and you don't want to burn those days,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: these like most precious days of the entire season. If
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you're four hundred yards out of the game and you
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: just never know what's going to happen. So as far
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: as you know, looking for scrapes, looking for hot sign
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: looking for rubs, what's going to get you most excited
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, I have four sets on this
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: huge farm. I'm going to hang us at here. What
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: what's kind of your mental checklist?
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: I think if I find a draw that is thick
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: at the top of the draw, like real thick, and
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: there's food maybe up top on a field, some crops
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: or something like that, and then I'll have, you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: some scrapes around it or some real heavy trails I
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: go into it or come out of it, that's gonna
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: be what I'm looking for.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: That's gonna be excitement.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: I want to see dose and I want to see
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: their betting area, and it has to be thick, you know.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: And I don't care where you are these these deer
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: like thick cover in daylight.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: So that's that's what I'm looking for.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So you're are you ringing rattling Antler's decoys and grunk call?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Are you going the full trifecta hat trick bag of tricks?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, sir, I'm begging the decoy. I'm a decoy guy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna try it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I'll try it like first night
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: or anything, or don't know if i'll hunt first night,
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: but I'm gonna definitely bring that the antlers, the grunt tube.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I haven't had a lot of luck with a can call,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: but that's gonna be in.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: The pack, you know, and then obviously some snacks so
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: I can hang out for a while.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I've been asking folks, because this is the
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: time when people are logging me most hours in a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: tree stand. Do you have any tips of advice to
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: say mentally sharp or to pass the time, because realistically,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you got to be in the stand this time of
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: year to have a chance. But people can start making excuses.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I gotta get this done, and maybe you do or
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: maybe you don't, or my win, my wins. This not
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: quite right. I need to get down, and I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of times it's just like I want to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: move because I'm bored and maybe I'm projecting here.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: No, I mean I love hearing this because I got
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: to get this out of my brain right like you can't.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: You can't have that in your brain this time of year.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: I'm going to have a thermost of coffee. I always
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: have a little thermost that I covered in you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: camo tape.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I always have that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna have some crustable sandwiches, that's kind of my goal,
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: and some just simple stuff, right, and then yeah, that's
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: that's really Yeah.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I'm playing on.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: H sitting long and just knowing that it's hours of
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: boredom interrupted by what thirty seconds, the whole reason you're there.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't care if it's if it's raining,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: I have a tree standing umbrella, you know whatever, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: rain gear, whatever it takes. I'm going solo. So it's
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: just me and the woods, and I'm gonna make it
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: happen and give it my all. So you take six
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: years to get this tag. Yeah, I sleep in, I'm
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: gonna feel whenever I sleep in, I feel really guilty.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm not hopefully I won't do that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: No, well, you're yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I think the weather as far as for this period
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of time, as of right now, the weather actually looks
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: probably the best it's been in the last few years.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Like we've had really hot spells or or mega wind
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: like it actually looks maybe like it's this might be
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the best fifth through the twelfth we've had in probably
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: three or four years, and maybe maybe longer than that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm looking at you know, lows in
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: the high thirties and forties in the morning, and then
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: highs of you know, mid fifties. A couple of days
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: it reaches like sixty one sixty two. I mean, I'm
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: I can't ask for more than that. I'm not going
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: to freeze and I'm not going to bake, so like
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: that's perfect.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I remember in twenty three when I shot my eyewa deer,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: it was like during this time period, it was like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: seventy eight degrees when I left my truck. And so
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: for anyone that don't don't complain about the weather actually
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: having really awesome weather.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: Like you said, if it was hot and windy or
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: super rainy, I mean, that's the worst man, Like, it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: it's I'm just hopefully that doesn't change and I'll be
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: blessed if it stays how it is.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Well, so I we're going to close this out with
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: two different things here. First, one is a quick trivia question.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I've been torturing most guests. My question for you is
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: what year was there the most amount of deer shot
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in the state of Michigan, highest total number A hargust
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: what year?
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: I did not know the answer to that, but I'm
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: going to go back to I'm gonna go back to
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: like nineteen fifty.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I got my little sheet.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Actually it's not nineteen fifty, it's actually nineteen ninety nine.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, it was five hundred and forty ninety
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: five deer that were shot. And then the highest gun
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: harvest was four hundred and twelve thousand, and the year
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: two thousand and then ninety nine was actually the highest
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: four archery. So little fun fact for everyone here. And
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: then my last question, is this on a scale one
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to ten, ten being this is going to be the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: best entire week all of twenty twenty five twenty twenty
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: six deer season is the ten one, It is the worst. Obviously,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: we are probably in the week where there will be
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the most amount of giant deer shot statistically.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: So where do you think this falls?
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: After sting me on the last question, thanks for the layup,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: I'm going I think I think you if you're not
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: this week, you have something that must be very important
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: to be doing. So that's that's it's a great week.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: I mean the sixth, the seventh. Last time I was
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: in Iowa. I think I shot my buck on the seventh,
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I love it. Coming up, I know there's
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: some good stuff and later November two, but I'm normally
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: back in Michigan doing our traditional rifle camp thing with
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: the other ten million people you just mentioned.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it should be should be a great week.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Awesome, Jared, Well, congrat congratulations on your Michigan buck, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: good luck in Iowa. You're gonna be where everyone wants.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Everyone who's not in Iowa this week is going to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: wish they were where you're at.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: So enjoy it. I know you're gonna have fun and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Hey, I appreciate it, man. I'll take all the good
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: luck I can get. Thank you, and good luck yourself.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: I know you're out there hitting at art, so put
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: one down and send me a picture.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: You got it, Jared, We'll see you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Thanks Jack.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: All right, Next up on the line, we have Chris.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: How's it. How's it going right now?
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: Feeling good man? Glad to be here, talk some white
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: tails and get the same rolling.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, So what have you been seeing as far as activity.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I know, you just got back from all Ohio. What
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: was kind of the road activity here for the last
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: week of October.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: In Pennsylvania, it's been fairly slow, just because I think
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: of the a corn crop.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: There's a lot of food this year.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: So the late teens of October have been Uh, it
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: was real slow just because there was so much food
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: on the ground. Betting was sort of random, So movement
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: was real sporadic. To Ohio. It was starting to pick
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: up a little bit. I was seeing some bucks and
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: bucks were really picking up on scrapes. That was around
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: the twenty fifth.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: M And so you're back from Ohio. Are you primarily
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: hunting Ohio for the next you know, November.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Fifth through the twelfth.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: I actually for my next Ohio trip on the seventh.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: So yeah, so okay, seventh through the eleventh, I will
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: be in Ohio.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So with with that in mind, you know, you have
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: some intel from your most recent trip in Ohio.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: You're going out there on the seventh.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably relatable to a lot of people
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that are, you know, traveling for the next seven days
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to try to make a move somewhat rapidly. What is
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: on your mental checklist when you get back to Ohio
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to hunt, you know, the seventh through the twelfth for example.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: A lot of it's going to do with historical information
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: that I have and realizing that scrapes are starting.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: To lose their jujus.
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: So we're going to be mainly focusing on dough groups
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: and terrain features connecting dough betting areas that I have
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: had success with in the past. So I mean those
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: those and terrain features are going to be your best friend.
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: I feel like in that section of the run.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: When you're going out there, I'm assuming it's big woods.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm also guessing it's public. Are you sitting in one
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: spot dark to dark? Are you, you know, having a
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: morning set kind of up high on the hill and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: moving down lower in the evening or tbd?
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Or what?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: What advice do you have for someone that might be
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: in a similar boat.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: So I don't know if I have a preference as
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: far as elevation high or low. It's all a spot
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: dependent for me and what maybe I know about that area.
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: It's a lot of it's gonna be come back to
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: some first that I'm park gonna start low because it's
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: all going to revolve around days if I'm just being
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: short with it, so I don't I don't care if
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: the doors are betting higher, if the doors are betting low.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: I just need to be in correlation with where the
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: doors are in that area. What was the second happier question?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: H and are you parking in one tree for the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: entire day or are you moving? You know, bait, are you.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Moving kind of midday or moving around one o'clock to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: go get to more of an evening spot. And you
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: know that's probably more prevalent in different parts of the country,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: But don't big woods.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: Since I don't live there, I'm not as in the
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: moment as I am at home. So when I get there,
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: I'll have a game plan to start and then I'm
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: gonna move as needed. If I'm seeing dose now, even
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: if I haven't seen the buck yet and i'm seeing
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: those for sit or two, I might hang out because
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: I know the doors are there. There's always that chance.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: But if I'm not seeing what I want to see it,
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: then I'm gonna keep moving. I'm going to try to
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: put myself in the action.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And for someone you mentioned different train features, describe one
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: that's coming to mind here for this next week that
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: you're going to be hunting in Ohio.
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: Secondary points, mom, ditches. I really like those. A lot
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: of the stuff that I like to look for is
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: like a low spots, secondary bridges and ditches that maybe
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: dip into private or that has you know, part of
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: that has ag maybe catch catching the dough groups coming
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: up from the private that bet on these points and stuff,
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: and then obviously the bucks are going to parallel those.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: M Yeah. Well, I mean you're right, listen.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I think we could try to overcomplicate this time period,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but in reality, man, you got to the dos in
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a tight pinch. It's kind of the magic sauce of this.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Let me let me run this scenario by you. It's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: in the morning and you have a setup where you
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: get winded by some doughs at like eight o'clock in
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the morning.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: What are you doing next?
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: Oh, I don't care if they wouldn't be.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you're just confident that where I'm sitting at, like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: even if my wind's bad, if I know I can
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: kill that buck before he hits my wind, I'm good
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: in my opinion. And a lot of times I've seen
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: where if a dough blows, a buck will come running
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: because that dough just to give up her position, because
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: a lot of times these does are actually trying to
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: hide from the bucks because they're getting pestered by you know, everything.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: So you can make you can make a wrong that's
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: and have a buck run.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: And I've done that where right before daylight, I'm walking
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: to the tree and I have a buck running at
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: me because he heard me from the ridge over.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's an exciting time of year.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: There was a one hundred earlier this week, and there
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: was it was a dough that was not ready to
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: be bred, and she was just running. She would run
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: in a real big thicket and the bucks would get
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: down whenever flush her back out, and then she would
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: run over to another thicket. And for people that, I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: feel that you just got to be you got to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: be present to win this time of year. You got
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to find a good spot and ride it out. How
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: do you how do you mentally under or I guess
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: how do you mentally? Way you're in there, it's November
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: eighth and you're not seeing much activity.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: How much time are you going to give that spot
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: before you might move?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Move?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: On to something else.
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: Like I said, I think it's just going to depend
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: on the spot and like what I know about it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: If it was a brand new spot.
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: I might be more ought to be like, Okay, I'm
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: going to get down and at least look around.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: Maybe there's something.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: Here that I don't know that's here that I haven't
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: seen yet, and it would make me more up to
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: get back in the tree, you know, or just get
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: down scout find a new spot. Now, if I'm in
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: a spot where I'm like, yeah, I've had cameras here
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: for a couple of years and I know like this
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: is the pocket and I just need to be patient,
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: then I'll stay in the churney.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And real quick.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: For people that want to know more about historical data,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: what exactly is that? Is that based off of specific deer?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Is that based off of just general activity in that
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: area throughout this time period?
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: Both, yeah, a lot of it. I try to just
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: pick apart just the daylight pictures of bucks.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: If I if I'm pulling cards and I got a
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: spot where there's a lot of a lot of nighttime activity,
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: that doesn't mean it's a bad spot, because eventually there's
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: bucks will slip through there in the daylight. But if
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: I find a spot where it's like, man, there was
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: five bucks in here in two days in daylight, Like
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: that's what I'm trying to find.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you have cameras in your backpack on
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: this trip where you're gonna go soak some more on
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the fly?
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: I think it's reverse.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: I've had the cameras out since February soaking, so it's
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: more like going there.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: If I can, you know.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Past the camera before I get to my tree, I'll
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: pull the card and give me out.
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: Give me something. Look at why I'm in the tree too?
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: In past time?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Do you have any tips for passing time in the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: tree sinking? Cause a lot of people are logging the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: most amount of hours in a tree for the next
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: seven days, and anyone that says it doesn't get a
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: little boring is lyne.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: So what what tips do you have to pass the time.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: While you're buying You're buying time for your buck to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: show up, and you're like, man, I'm getting a little bored.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a little sick of watching squirrels.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: I can't sit here and tell you I'm the most
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: patient person in the World magazine.
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: I'm opposite. I'm so impatient to even funny, but I haven't.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: I mean, having food helps, I've been I haven't done
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: it yet, but I've been telling myself. I'm like, man,
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: I need to bring a book or like a magazine
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: or something for that like midday, cause it does get
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: kind of like blinding to stay at your phone too
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: long too and that drains your battery and then you're
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: frustrated later in the day. And so I would say,
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: just food, bring a book, you know, something like that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I would be lying if I said I've
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: never brought a book before for those like this time
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: period where you can at least listen and hear and
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe learn something too along the way, as
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: far as you know, like I feel like everyone's trying
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to pull out the back of tricks right now. Are
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you gonna have your grund call right only antlers?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Are you going to use them? Tbd?
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: Once again, I don't carry horns very often, but I'll
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: always have a ground call with me, and I try
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: to use this sparingly and for really certain situations like
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: if I'm in a dire you know, situation where a
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: buck is acting like he would come into one, but
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: he's getting away from me, then I'm probably gonna use it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: But other than that, I pretty much try to just
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: be a silent be a silent killer.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I like it so looking here, you know, kind of
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: guessing on the weather a little bit scale one to ten,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: ten being, this is going to be the best week
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of the entire year, one being is going to be
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the worst week of the year. Where do you put
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: your prediction for big Buck activity from November fifth to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: November twelfth, the grand event.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: Here, I'll tell you what, man, I have had some
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: of the best hits I've ever had on November ten
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: And that's a year to year to hear, that's three years,
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: three years back to back to back for me, I've
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: had the best hits of the entire year on November.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Tenth, real quick, and then we'll let you go. What
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: did for last year? What was your setup for November tenth?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Like just to describe if some people can envision and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: try to try to find something similar.
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: I was the head of a ditch in between three
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: different but dobetting areas.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, I love it. I love it. Well, Chris, good
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: luck in Ohio.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Good luck in Pennsylvania as well, and I really appreciate
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: it hopping on here today.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: This is the week we've been waiting for. Good luck.
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: Yep, appreciate it, man, all right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Next up on the line, we have Tom Alexander at
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Land Magazine with Land dot Com.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Tom, how is it going down in Texas?
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Fantastic, especially in our area. So I'm really in southern Texas,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: I would say, kind of what we consider to be
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: the Gulf Coast region. And oddly enough we hit our
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: hard rut down here through October. So it's been great
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: for the last four weeks.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Wonderful.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of those things. Texas is huge and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: people don't realize how big that state is. And you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: have a couple different hunting areas throughout the state of Texas,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: which I want to kind of get an.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Update throughout the region.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: But as I mentioned to you here a little bit ago,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I like torture the guests with a trivia question. And
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: so Texas, Texas is not a state that I at
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: least think of when it comes to the sheer amount
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: of white tails being shot. So out of the last
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: twenty five years for all time single season whitetail harvest
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: out of the top twenty five.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: How many times has it been Texas, I'd say every time.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: You're really close, it's twenty three out of the twenty five. Wow,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and two thousand. Wisconsin is ranked number thirteen, and then
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: at twenty five Michigan is five hundred and forty four thousand.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: But the all time record in the entire country nine
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen thousand deer harvested in the state of
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Texas in twenty seventeen. So there's a lot of hunters
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: and a lot of deer down there.
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: I think we'll vary each year in between seven hundred
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: and fifty and a million.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It's crazy and mule deer.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Twenty three, twenty four thousand.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Wow yeah wow.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: So we set the stage here. There's a lot of
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: deer that are gonna shot in the state of Texas
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: this fall. The rut is moving right along here in
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the southern part of Texas. What's going on kind of
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the general neck of the woods and for Texas from
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the fifth to the twelfth, this is the time period
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: where a lot of people in the Midwest are, you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: at peak excitement.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: What's your level of excitement here in Texas.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: It's always good because, like I said, we have so
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: many different regions, and it's a kind of a staggered event.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: So you would say what I consider to be the
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Gulf Coast region, so Gulf of America from the shoreline,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Galveston area, whatever, along that stretch of the coast inland,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: say ninety or one hundred miles, and then going from
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: East Texas all the way down to South Texas, with
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: the exception of the far southern tip.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: But that is all October.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: So you know, if you plant an outright, you can
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: be during bow season. You can be in the rut
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: right there through that area. It's kind of odd we
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: actually manage to place south of Houston here in October.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: The rut was just as hard as it could go,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: and it's ninety five degrees outside, so we were out
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: shooting colder. My son shot two bucks one evening and
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: I remember field dressing them and it was ninety five degrees.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: So they're just kind of strange, and they're out the
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: middle of the day hot as can be in their
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: running dos.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Wait a while.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: So that's October, and then when you go into November
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: you start hitting what we consider to be far East
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: Texas and central Texas. So in reality, if you drew
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: a line, you know, halfway up the state of Texas
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: from east to west right, so just right through the middle.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Everything from that line north is November. And so if
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: you're in the hill country, which is where a lot
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: of people have recreational properties and they're hunting, it really
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: kind of it ties in the peak of the rut,
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: i'd say.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Is right before Thanksgiving.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: So it's always a great time if you have property
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: up there, you're enjoying it, you might be spending Thanksgiving,
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: and it's a great time to hunt. And then we
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: roll into what we consider to be South Texas, the
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: brush country, and you know, that's just all I guess
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: you'd say everything south of that line, with the exception
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: of what's on the coast, and that's where the biggest
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: deer in Texas are killed. That's the majority of the
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: high fence places, and the peak of the rut there
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: is seems to be always right around Christmas. So I
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: know I have several friends that literally on Christmas Day,
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: after they celebrate Christmas, they have Christmas dinner, right and
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: as soon as that's over, everybody gets in the truck
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: and goes down to the deer leaser to the ranch,
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: and then they'll hunt through the end of January I'm sorry,
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: through the holiday season January second or third man.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of that's a lot of opportunity to
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: chase rinting bucks a huge, huge window. That's that's actually
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: really incredible. I didn't realize. I didn't realize that that's
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: really neat.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you time it right, you know, you can get
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: the rut through each one of those through all three months.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like following the waterfowl migration. Yeah, exactly.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: So for folks that are maybe in Texas or maybe Oklahoma,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and I understand that's just a ginormous region what I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: just described. But for the next five days or next
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: seven days, what are some things that you're personally keen
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: in on if you're going to be out in the standar,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: out in the blind, chasing deer when the majority of
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: large bucks are shot, you know, over the next seven days.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: You know, we're running cameras right now, and we do
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of feeding, so we try to stay off
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: for where we are down here, we try to stay
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: off of hunting the actual feeders and we're running protein,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: so we'll corn the roads and just based and we
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: have certain stands set up for wind, and we just
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: corn the roads and if we can get some good
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: deer coming in. You know, it seems like most of
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: the big mature bucks there, you know, they've already kind
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: of gone through their cycle. They've had their dose pinned
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: down whatever it is, and done that first cycle. So
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: now they're out cruising, so you'll catch them just kind
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: of checking the wind and running up and down the
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: roads and just looking there. They probably lost I don't know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: fifteen percent of their body weight, so they've gone from
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: these big, just lumbering, older bucks and now they're they're
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: looking pretty fit, looking good, So kind of makes it
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: difficult when you're trying to judge an age class. But
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: now is the time to be killing what we consider
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: the five and a half six and six and a
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: half year old deer.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's that's super exciting.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: And it is crazy how how much the white tail
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: buck changes, you know, from summer to the end of
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the rut. It actually is sometimes it can be unrecognizable
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: by the end of the season.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's really neat to watch and when
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: you see like you know, we're after certain management bucks
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: and we might wait a little while for we're going
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: to shoot them, but you see him at one minute
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: or at the beginning of October, and like I said,
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: they're twenty percent heavier, and they just look like these
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: big lumbering almost like you know, a cow. They're just
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: they're they're they're ready, you know. And then now they're
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: just worn down and and very fit looking.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: So it's fun, good time.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: What is your your favorite part over the next seven
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: days for this time of year. Is it the anticipation
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: of anything that could happen? Is it bringing out the
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: rat on alers and smashing them? I mean, what has
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you most excited over the next seven days.
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, so get in an area where you
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: know some good deer coming in, you know, hopefully a
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: lot of dose. One of the problems we have here
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: is with hogs, because there are thousands of pigs I
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: think so far this year this year we probably killed
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: two hundred in havn't even put a dent in them.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: So if you're corning a road, a lot of times
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: you'll have the deer come out and they start getting
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: nervous and then a pack of thirty hogs will come out,
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: so you try to shoot those and get them spooked
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: out of that area, and then the deer will start
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: coming back in. But right now, yeah, it's you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: we've got an MLD permit, so we can shoot with
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: the gun in October. But me and my buddy we
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: both shoot traditional archery, so recurves long bows, and so
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: a lot of our shots are ten or fifteen yards
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: and that's the way we've got all of our stands
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: set up right now, so we're after some target bucks.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: He was in a stand last night and actually tested me,
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: texted me, I'm sitting here at my desk and I
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: hear this, you know, crap, crap, crap. He had two
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: dos that came in and the butt circle around down
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: one of him, and it was a nice big six
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: and a half year old eight point that he was
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: after and bound it off. You know, but that would
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: have been a good season kill for him.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: So you hunt with traditional archery equipment, which takes more preparation,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: more focus than any other form of archery hunting, and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the moment of truth. A lot of people this week
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: are going to be full draw on a deer they've
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: been dreaming of for the last eleven and a half
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: months and the moment of truth. What do people need
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: to be thinking about? Is this deer's coming in to
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: execute a great shot. And with traditional archery equipment, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: think it's even more even more focus.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well do what I say. Not what I do.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Is with traditional archery, you know, there's target paintings. So
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: if you're watching that deer, naturally you're going to pull back,
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: and it's something about a longbow or a recurve that
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: you're holding that full tension, and everything in your brain
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: just starts screaming at you. Let go, let go, because
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: you're looking at that deer. And if you do aim,
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: it's you know, if you're shooting at a three D target,
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: you will naturally aim low and it's okay to put
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: that tip down low below the arrow. But if that
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: deer is there at ten yards and you've been practicing
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: at twenty yards and holding just under the deer, it
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: just seems like every time that deer walks out at
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: ten yards and you put the tip of the arrow
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: right on him and you shoot over him or he ducks,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: you know. So I think the most important thing is
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: just wait for a minute. When that deer comes in.
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: You always want to take that first best shot, but
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: usually you're going to have time, especially if you've got
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: corn out, So make sure you pick your spot, take
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: your time, draw back anchor get completely ready, and then
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: you know, like Joel Turner teaches, go through your process
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: and make that decision once you're on and your aim
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: make that decision of My next job is to release
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: this exactly the way that I practice. So if you
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: can go through that, then you're gonna do fine. I'm
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: really good at doing that. On hogs, terrible on.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Deer A half is the very best of us. That's
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: what I break it up. That's what it's fun.
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, So you have to speak for the whole state
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: of Texas, second largest land mass in the United States,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: over the next seven days on a scale one to ten,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: ten being this might be the best week of the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: year in the state of Texas for this season, and
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: number one being this might be one of the worst
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: weeks of the entire year. On a scale one to ten,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Where do you put this upcoming seven days for the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: state of Texas for your report, I'd.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Say really good, we've had a coal front come through,
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: so it really makes a difference here. Last night, after
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: going I went out, went to the gym, then went
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: to the grocery store and it's sixty five degrees outside,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: and there's people walking around and down jackets and their
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: nit caps on with a little ball on top. And
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: that's normal at sixty five degrees here, So we just
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: don't get that cold. So this front is blown through,
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: it's been really pleasant outside. So right now in our area,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: it should be outstanding over the next week and then
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: it's just going to roll as the weather goes and
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: the moon face and all that, depending upon the area
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: that you're in. But for here, right now, in our
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: area hunting the rut, the tail end of the rut,
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: this next week should be really good, wonderful.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Well, Tom, good luck. I hope you have a great
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: rest of your season.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you hopping on here and educating everyone about
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the state of Texas because there's a lot to learn here.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Right all right, thanks Jake, All.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Right, there, you guys have it. I hope you guys
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: enjoy this week. This is the week we've been waiting
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: for all year. It's the week we're gonna be waiting
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: for fifty one weeks again, So get out there, enjoy it,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Enjoy all the moments. Remind yourself of some of the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: advice here that the guests have provided, and get out
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: there and enjoy it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: That is it. We will see you next week on
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: rough fresh good luck.