Latest / Sports Exchange / Miami Dolphins Legend Richmond Webb

Transcript

Miami Dolphins Legend Richmond Webb · Sports Exchange

• 0:19
  Good evening. Get everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange.
• 0:23
  What a nice show I have on here tonight. You talk about me
• 0:27
  being the middle of two good football players. I have no problem with this
• 0:31
  crew here tonight. I call it my Pro Football Hall of Fame crew.
• 0:34
  I guess I could be biased, or Richmond Webb and Melfarre Junior. Okay,
• 0:39
  but anyways, we have a great show on tap. Here we get
• 0:41
  to celebrate the career of Richmond Webb with the Miami Dolphins and some of his
• 0:46
  other ventures off the gridiron. And of course tonight marks the first time ever
• 0:52
  that Melfar is my co host. Well, mel can you handle it?
• 0:56
  We'll see we're about to find out, right, Oh, I know you.
• 1:00
  I never had any doubt whatsoever that you could do, and so it's
• 1:03
  going to be an awfully a lot of fun. So we'll look at that
• 1:07
  chat rooms already loaded, already. Look that's Richmond. You're a draw,
• 1:11
  my friend. So before I get to the topics, we're gonna say a
• 1:15
  good evening the will Vogel and if that's't good enough, Ralph Williams, welcome
• 1:19
  to the party. So okay, of course, if you're the Boston Bruins.
• 1:22
  You don't want me to go out there and use that accent because it's
• 1:25
  not a very popular one these days. And I won't get into that any
• 1:27
  further, but sure you can tip it out. So anyways, as I
• 1:32
  mentioned, we're going to celebrate the career of Richmond Webb, talk about what
• 1:36
  he's doing on off the field as well as what he did for the Dolphins,
• 1:41
  and of course Mel is going to join in as well. So without
• 1:45
  further delay, Richmond, once again, thank you very much for being on
• 1:48
  the Sports Exchange. Scott, how are you doing, mell Hey, I
• 1:51
  appreciate you'all having me on. I'm doing good and I always appreciate the opportunity,
• 1:57
  so I'm looking forward to it. We count out a little bit before
• 2:00
  the show. I started, So two great guys, and I know y'all
• 2:04
  gonna make me look to this, so this is a piece of cake for
• 2:06
  me. So I'm gonna just roll with you two guys. You know I
• 2:09
  have to make you look good man. I really don't know. All I
• 2:12
  gotta do is we'll get your numbers. Okay, this is in baseball where
• 2:15
  and you're in the steroid era and I don't want to knock my favorite sport
• 2:19
  to have done a lot with it. The numbers are what they are.
• 2:21
  So if I'm making you look good, it means I can kind of like
• 2:23
  read okay, and then I really to watch. You know that thing called
• 2:28
  show and tell, and that's what you did a lot of I don't know.
• 2:30
  In grade school, I used to play show and tell. Of course,
• 2:32
  now we've taken it to an But anyways, you know, we're gonna
• 2:38
  get to the comments as quickly as we can. Another there's another South Florida
• 2:42
  guy, Joshua Burstein. I know he's followed you. You have gold Panthers,
• 2:46
  but right now this is a Dolphins type of show. But obviously panther
• 2:50
  fever is with it. And Will Vogel, I'm gonna put your question up.
• 2:53
  I'm sure we might have something preparable, but we'll also put yours on
• 2:55
  there as well. So thanks for being a part of it. Well,
• 2:58
  all right, with that said, I'm gonna get to some of the questions.
• 3:00
  I'm want to turn over to mel and we'll incorporate the people in the
• 3:02
  chat. I should also point out that those individuals that participate in the chat
• 3:06
  room can also come out in one of our shows as well. But before
• 3:09
  I get to Richmond, I just want to let everybody know that the audio
• 3:12
  version of the Sports Exchange can be heard on iHeartRadio, Apples, Spotify,
• 3:16
  Google, wherever you get your podcasts. You want to hear it, that's
• 3:20
  the way to do it. Please hit the red subscribe button on YouTube South
• 3:24
  Florida Tribune. We're striving for a thousand subscribers, so everyone helps, and
• 3:31
  also please comment, like, and share the broadcasts as well. We encourage
• 3:37
  all the feedback that we can. I have a feeling we're gonna be really
• 3:39
  busy in the chat room to night. I want to be a gas no
• 3:43
  problem. You can contact me at Tribute South on Twitter, or you can
• 3:46
  also send your ideas to South for a Tribute at gmail dot com. And
• 3:50
  if you want to advertise called nine five four three or four four nine for
• 3:53
  one. We are live on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, and YouTube.
• 3:58
  All right, I had to get the emotional stuff out there, Richmond,
• 4:00
  so mus get it over what they get to you. All right. First
• 4:03
  of all, let's talk about the Miami Dolphins nineteen ninety to two thousand,
• 4:08
  and you finish your caro to Cincinnati Bengals. You're a seven time Pro Bowl
• 4:12
  or not that you need to be reminded, but other people are hearing it
• 4:14
  for the first time. NFL nineteen nineties All Decade Team, the Miami Dolphins
• 4:18
  on her role. So do you feel that your day will come in Canton,
• 4:23
  Ohio and you'll be a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
• 4:26
  Yeah, I think so. I think my resume kind of speaks for herself.
• 4:31
  It's just right. I think the thing, and a lot of people
• 4:34
  get caught up in it is when you only put in five or six guys
• 4:39
  in at a time, A lot of times you can get caught up in
• 4:42
  the numbers and this and that, And I just had a matter of fact
• 4:46
  this year is Zach Thomas, one of my former teammates. He's going into
• 4:47
  the Hall, and you know, sometime it takes a minute. So I
• 4:54
  just enjoyed the process. The good thing is my nine keeps coming up on
• 4:58
  the ballot, So the good thing is they had it for got about me.
• 5:00
  Bit I think I have a legitimate shot. You just gotta be sometimes
• 5:03
  you gotta be patient and let it happen. But yeah, I think I
• 5:06
  got I think I got the numbers and stuff to get it done. It's
• 5:11
  just waiting to see when it happened. Well, you know, amazingly enough,
• 5:15
  you know, I was over. I've covered four Super Bowls in person,
• 5:19
  Richmond, and one of my favorite events was the Hall of Fame selection
• 5:23
  show. It took Floyd a little a long time to get in, but
• 5:25
  the ultimately got in there. So you know, like you said, I
• 5:28
  think it's I don't know whether there's a certain type of politics or not where
• 5:31
  every city will get their writers and and all of a sudden they do each
• 5:34
  other favor. I don't know the inner workings of the voting, only from
• 5:38
  the bits and pieces Richmond that I've heard, but you know, as they
• 5:41
  always so I don't know for sure, so don't hold me to that one
• 5:44
  at all. But like you say, it's just like you know, you
• 5:46
  have to kind of bide your time and listen, Floyd a little waited a
• 5:49
  long time. He really did. And you know what, it doesn't matter
• 5:54
  how long you wait, as long as you're in there sooner or later anyway.
• 5:56
  So that's the key. Yeah, that's and he was a life when
• 5:59
  it happened. And okay, and it's a great picture. If I had
• 6:01
  camera phones, I can tell you how many poles doing I had one years
• 6:04
  ago. But that's for another day, all right, So tell me what
• 6:08
  was it like to play for Don Shula, Jimmy Johnson, and Jay warn
• 6:11
  Stat. Well, I start out with, you know, Coach Shuler.
• 6:15
  That was definitely um, you know, coming out of college Texas and um
• 6:18
  and um uh. You know, the draft process is stressful within itself.
• 6:25
  But I went to the Senior Bowl, had a good Senior Bowl workout,
• 6:29
  I went to the Combine, worked out pretty good, so my draft stock
• 6:32
  continued to climb and then, um, you know, I think my prayer
• 6:36
  was to go somewhere warm. So when when Don Shula called that day at
• 6:42
  the Sunday morning, when when I got drafted, I was happy. The
• 6:46
  Dolphins were always one of the more you know, respective teams around the league,
• 6:51
  known for winning this and that, and I got an opportunity to play
• 6:55
  with guys like Dan Marino, Mark Dupa, Mark Clayton. So it wasn't
• 7:00
  like I went in a situation where it was a rebuilding, you know,
• 7:03
  turn down, where everything has to do. So everything was kind of setting
• 7:08
  in order. I just had to you know, jump in line and do
• 7:12
  that. But coach was very disciplined coach and paid attention to the little things,
• 7:16
  the mental errors, penalties, the little things that sometimes can make a
• 7:20
  difference in you know, winning or losing a game. You know, most
• 7:25
  NFL games are really if you look at the average, probably three or four
• 7:29
  points at least back then, it was a deciding factor. So you know,
• 7:31
  maybe offsides here, or holding penalty or you know, personal interference a
• 7:38
  lot of time that could either stop a drive or keep one or continue drive.
• 7:42
  So it just it just always kind of helped me focus on paying attention
• 7:46
  to the little things. And I think that's transitioned and you know life after
• 7:51
  football, you know, being on time, you know, being a man
• 7:56
  of integrity character, just the little things, and it helped me transition after
• 8:01
  football to be successful after the game. And then, like you said,
• 8:07
  from Don Shula to Jimmy Johnson, he was a tough coach, but very
• 8:13
  knowledgeable, knew the game this and that, and I ain't having issues with
• 8:18
  him. And then my last year I played with Dave wat said was a
• 8:24
  coach, which he was a defensive coordinator, so I knew him. So
• 8:26
  I had three really good coaches. When I was at the Dolphins, and
• 8:31
  we typically went to the playoffs most of the time, went to then FC
• 8:35
  Championship and lost the Buffalover. That's when they had those real good teams.
• 8:39
  But I had. I had a real good career and won a lot of
• 8:41
  games in mine. Yeah. The first coach I ever worked for was Don
• 8:46
  Schuller. And if you think he's tough on you when you're a young writer
• 8:48
  and you're learning, he's tough on you. But the one thing I did
• 8:52
  take from Coach Schuller that he always taught me was he always took advantage of
• 8:56
  his player's strengths, not what they couldn't do, but what they could do.
• 8:58
  Did you get that feeling from him as well? Well, I think
• 9:03
  I just kind of fell in line. You know when I got there.
• 9:05
  Uh, I was drafted and then we drafted Keith Sims and so we were
• 9:09
  two rookie offensive linemen. And you know, he did something that was almost
• 9:15
  unheard of, start us on the blind side of the quarterback and uh,
• 9:20
  but it was it was the best thing. And you know, he went
• 9:22
  to our state. I went to Texas A and M. But it was
• 9:24
  you would have thought we grew up together. I mean, it was just
• 9:28
  a match made in heaven, and you know, we learned and this and
• 9:31
  that, but our job was to help protect Marino. He was already a
• 9:37
  legend before we got there, so we just kind of helped prolong his career
• 9:41
  and you know, enabled us to win a lot of football games. So
• 9:45
  yeah, you're right. I think he knew that how well Dan threw the
• 9:48
  football, and then he just gave him some insurance to where he could continue
• 9:52
  to do it for you know, another ten years or so. So yeah,
• 9:54
  yeah, great way to say, great way to segue the Wolf Vogos
• 10:00
  question. Thanks Richmond. So we'll just say he said, first of all,
• 10:03
  thank you very much for answering my question. Mister Webb. You were
• 10:05
  on the offensive side of the ball and got to play with Marino, Duper
• 10:09
  and Clayton and coach by Don Shula. How cool was that? I mean,
• 10:13
  it's one thing to you know, I like the way Will words the
• 10:16
  question, how cool was that? Because you know, as a player,
• 10:18
  you have an opportunity to go out there and play for an iconic coach.
• 10:24
  I mean, and I preface the word cool because you know you're being a
• 10:26
  player in that situation. Yeah, no question. I think the thing is
• 10:31
  is the biggest adjustment for me was getting drafted and being a high draft round
• 10:37
  pick. So I think with most any guys that's drafted first round, second
• 10:43
  round, you want to prove you're worthy of that pick. And so you
• 10:46
  know, I put added pressure on myself. But then, like you said,
• 10:52
  playing with Marino, duper click, decent guys that I saw Monday night
• 10:56
  football, and next thing you go to a mini camp and thrown in the
• 11:00
  huddle with him, and you're like, you almost gotta pinch yourself because you
• 11:03
  can't really believe that you're in there. And then you know, you see
• 11:07
  how these guys work practice, you know, work on their crafts, and
• 11:11
  then you start to understand what it takes if you want to get to that
• 11:16
  level in your game. You know, you see how these guys work,
• 11:20
  and you know all of them have been playing seven eight years at that time,
• 11:22
  but but you know they worked harder than other. So like if they're
• 11:26
  not taking plays off and working hard like that, it showed that, hey,
• 11:31
  I gotta match that same energy, intensity, this and that. And
• 11:35
  I was a guy that never wanted to be the week link on the team
• 11:39
  that you know, people are to cover up for this next. So it's
• 11:41
  just it's just drove you know, you kind of competitive, not so much
• 11:45
  with your teammates, but you want to you want to hold your end of
• 11:48
  the bargain up. And that's the way I just kind of approached it.
• 11:50
  Well, believe it or not, back in the early eighties, I did
• 11:52
  write the story and Mark Cooper and Mark Clayton, and Mark Clayton was I
• 11:58
  believe it was an eighth round pick out a Louis or a later round pick
• 12:01
  out a law you know. So all right, next question is, let's
• 12:03
  talk about the highlights of your career. Okay, go ahead. What I
• 12:07
  know? Well, like you said, I went to the Pro Bowl.
• 12:13
  Sometimes the winners a rookie. I think it's first rookie offensive tackle to do
• 12:20
  that. And I can remember, um, we had I think three or
• 12:24
  four guys made it to you. Yeah, I think it was mean Pharrell
• 12:28
  Eppman's, Jeff Cross and maybe Clayton and I can remember we're in a team
• 12:35
  meeting and he announced solid guys, but he saved mine to last. So
• 12:41
  you know, it was truly an honor to get, you know, honored
• 12:45
  because that's voted on by the players that you know, you play against.
• 12:48
  His natal be a rookie and to receive that type of recognition was huge.
• 12:54
  And to see that, you know, my teammates were happy for him,
• 12:58
  and my coaches, STA was happy for me, this and that, and
• 13:01
  um you know, I was just overjoyed. But it was an individual award
• 13:09
  that, you know, because I did it without my teammates. But I
• 13:11
  think more was the way each year we set out to win a division or
• 13:18
  make the playoffs. That was our goal every year. So the bar was
• 13:22
  always set high. So in order to do that, like I said,
• 13:26
  when you've seen how those guys work, that's why I think I had success.
• 13:30
  I worked hard. You know, I was fortunate God bless me with
• 13:33
  talent, but you know I worked hard. At the same time. You
• 13:35
  can be given talent, but if you kind of slack and don't do what
• 13:39
  you're supposed to do, you know, you're not gonna maximize your potential.
• 13:43
  But um, yeah, allowed me to you know, have that consecutive streak
• 13:48
  and you know, help my team won a lot of football games. So
• 13:50
  that was that was truely and all. Well, you talk about yet another
• 13:54
  transition. You are the best. So all right, a little tape so
• 13:58
  that leads me to my next plays. Rich Man, Okay, do you
• 14:01
  take a lot of pride in setting the records for one hundred and eighteen consecutive
• 14:05
  starts and the seven consecutive Pro Bowls? Knowing full well the Miami Dolphins have
• 14:09
  a rich history anyways, Yeah, you know on the consecutive starts, I
• 14:16
  really didn't. I think I was just trying to get ready to play every
• 14:20
  week. You know, I wasn't focused on saying, oh, I played
• 14:24
  seventy games. I didn't focus on I just focused on, Okay, well
• 14:28
  we got Buffalo this week, or we got Detroit this week, or you
• 14:33
  know the Jets this week? Who am I playing against? Watch your film
• 14:35
  on the player that you know I had to play against, and before you
• 14:39
  know it, then they say, oh, you've played all these games and
• 14:43
  you think about it, but you don't really think about it. So I
• 14:46
  mean, that's that was a huge accomplishment. Like I said, longevity in
• 14:52
  this league, when you can consistently play like that, that helps your team
• 14:56
  that you know a lot of times an injury or two can, you know,
• 14:58
  take you out. So that's why I said I feel very fortunate and
• 15:03
  blessed because you know, at any given time, you see guys that have
• 15:07
  the potential, and you know their careers are cut short because of the injury
• 15:11
  or they're not the same player. So to be able to do it consistently
• 15:13
  for a long period of time, I feel very fortunate about that. Yeah,
• 15:18
  you know, I'm going to go to another question will Vota. This
• 15:20
  one's really good, but you gotta remember nowadays on a whole lot different than
• 15:24
  it was with knee injuries, with all the different advances in technology, which
• 15:28
  perhaps at some point could have extended career. But Black to world, he
• 15:31
  said, what do you have to say about young players who who want to
• 15:35
  be online, whether it's high school or a college school on prepping yourself better
• 15:41
  and working hard? Yeah, you know, I think the thing that's kind
• 15:46
  of different now versus when I was growing up is, you know, everything
• 15:52
  is specialized now, and what I mean by that is you almost choose a
• 15:56
  sport and that's the only sport you play. Where when I came to high
• 16:00
  school, I played football and basketball. You know a lot of guys played
• 16:03
  multiple sports, and now it seems like it's you find very few athletes that
• 16:08
  kind of do that bit. For me, I think that was instrumental in
• 16:14
  developing me to become offensive tackle because I played center on the basketball team and
• 16:19
  just you know, shuffling your feed loteral movement, this and that. So
• 16:23
  for me, I think really cross training at a different sport is good because
• 16:29
  you use different muscle memories and stuff. But now it's almost if you play
• 16:33
  this sport, you're training almost year around, you know, even from high
• 16:37
  school it's nout and you get the technical side of it. Bit. For
• 16:42
  me, I still think it's good to kind of mix an opposite sporting because
• 16:45
  it just trained different muscles. You know, if I was a receiver,
• 16:49
  I could see you know, even playing basketball, even baseball, because it
• 16:53
  teaches you how to judge the ball in the air. When you play baseball,
• 16:56
  it's just you just don't think about it. But that's why I think
• 17:00
  it's good to play different sports because it just helps. Bit, it's everything's
• 17:06
  changed now, so it's a little different. Bit. Yeah, just work
• 17:08
  hard at it. You know, if you're gonna be an offensive lineland,
• 17:11
  you know the footwork, you got to be able to pass block because that's
• 17:15
  what everybody's doing now. College. Nobody kind of hard, kind of runs
• 17:19
  the football back like they did back in the nineties and stuff when I played,
• 17:22
  So it's more of a past happy, you know league. So you
• 17:26
  just got to be prepared to do that. But yeah, just you got
• 17:30
  to put the work in. That's what I always tell people. Okay,
• 17:33
  let's talk about your life after football. I know you'll own a company called
• 17:36
  GM GBM Enterprises, LLC. So tell me. And now that you've become
• 17:41
  a businessman in Houston, so how is that venture going for him? You
• 17:47
  know, everything's going good. I think the thing is, I've tried a
• 17:49
  few things. I was in the water water wastewater business for a little bit.
• 17:55
  That was interesting, but I kind of went back to just real estate.
• 18:00
  I kind of like that. I've got some rental properties, invested in
• 18:03
  some small strip center stuff like that. So I like the aspect of but
• 18:10
  I think what I truly like is meeting people and networking and just building that.
• 18:17
  And that's what I've always told my daughters that something I didn't do right
• 18:21
  out of college was, you know, I just focused on working, training,
• 18:25
  football and stuff like that. But really, when you start the network
• 18:27
  and you meet people, it's not all about your qualifications. It's all about
• 18:32
  sometimes who you know. You know, they kind of get a feel for
• 18:36
  you, You get a feel for them, and a lot of times you're
• 18:38
  invited to the table to you know, different deals and stuff like that.
• 18:42
  So I always try to stress for them, you know, the importance of
• 18:45
  networking and being with people. And that's almost a large lost art now because
• 18:52
  everybody's on their phones to either tweet or they don't. People don't talk.
• 18:57
  Social media's is people are almost drawn within themselves instead of count communing with communicating
• 19:06
  with people. So with them being from the younger generation, I try to
• 19:08
  force them to say, now, you gotta it's still some of these old
• 19:11
  school values in and still I think it'll help you. But man, I
• 19:17
  gotta say, real estate has been good and just I'm good. So everything's
• 19:22
  been all pretty good. God, I'm glad. One of the things I
• 19:23
  really like to do when I bring on gass is not what you did on
• 19:27
  the tween the lines, that's what you've done outside the lines. You ever
• 19:30
  heard of a guy by the name of Barry Foot, former catcher for the
• 19:33
  New York Thankings, I've heard of him. Well, you know what he's
• 19:37
  been a good friend of mine since the early eighties when he was when he
• 19:41
  was a manager for the Fort Lauderdail Yankees. And you know what you talk
• 19:44
  about what Barry Foot did off the field, this guy has done an unbelievable
• 19:48
  job. He's been a good friend of mine. And you and him remind
• 19:52
  me are identical because he's been an outstanding entrepreneur. He really asked and now
• 19:56
  I'm talking to you, and it just blows me away. I'm impressed with
• 20:00
  everything you're doing because he reminded me of a good friend of mine. And
• 20:03
  it's just so impressive to know that. You know, you went to Texas,
• 20:07
  am right? Is that correct? A whole lot of gifts, but
• 20:10
  I did. No, No, but you've got a great education there,
• 20:12
  you know. And one thing about continuing education, it does prepare you for
• 20:17
  life after football. So that allows you to transition from your football career over
• 20:22
  to what you're doing afterwhere So no taking somebody, don't care. Somebody had
• 20:26
  to come from somebody out. I came from your Southhoorida. Gonna hold that
• 20:29
  against me, maybe exactly? So all right, so tell me, would
• 20:33
  you ever return though to football in some sort of capacity at all. You
• 20:37
  know, I thought about it. It was probably maybe like early two thousands
• 20:44
  about me and two thousands around two thousand and eight somewhere in there. And
• 20:48
  I live in Houston now, so I wanted to live here but maybe kind
• 20:55
  of get back into football. So I had content acted. Um Brian Wiedermar
• 21:03
  he used to be president of the Dolphins, but he was with the Cleveland
• 21:07
  Browns and he was up there at the time, so they flew me up.
• 21:11
  And then Tom Harker Jr. Which was he was he worked in the
• 21:15
  scouting department with the Dolphins. He was up there and showed me around this
• 21:21
  and that, and I wanted to do college scouting, and you know they
• 21:26
  have college and um pro scouting and that, and that's what I kind of
• 21:30
  thought, because I say, well, I can do that and still live
• 21:32
  at home. And then um, before I left out my homegron was the
• 21:37
  U was he the president whatever he was, he was the man in Cleveland
• 21:42
  at the time, and brought me in and you know, welcome me with
• 21:47
  open arms. And he told me, he said, um, he said,
• 21:51
  Richmond, He said, are you married. I said yes, sir.
• 21:53
  He said, do you have a strong marriage and I said, yes,
• 21:59
  sir, and he said well, he said, well, I'm gonna
• 22:03
  tell you something. He said, if you're gonna do scouting, he said,
• 22:07
  I would prefer I think it would be better to do pro scouting.
• 22:11
  He said the hours alone. But he said, you get to go home
• 22:15
  at night. And he said, but if you do college scouting, you
• 22:18
  know you might leave out on money. You know, you're here, you're
• 22:22
  driving around to these different universities. You come home on the weekend, you
• 22:26
  watch your clothes, and you're back on the road the next week. So
• 22:30
  I thought about it. He said, you know, you're the type of
• 22:33
  guy that if you really decided you want to do get in football. He
• 22:36
  said, you know where you carried yourself stuff. He said, you're not
• 22:38
  gonna have a problem. And at the time, I just didn't want to
• 22:42
  live in in like Cleveland because it's cold up there and I lived in Cincinnati,
• 22:48
  but it gets even colder in Cleveland. I was like, I said,
• 22:52
  I don't want if I want to do that, and my girls were
• 22:56
  young at the time. I didn't want. I knew I wouldn't be able
• 23:02
  to spend time with him because of the commitment I would have had with football.
• 23:06
  So I thought about it, and I said, I wait, but
• 23:08
  uh, that time kind of passed me by it. But I had thought
• 23:11
  about it, but I thought I would be able to do college gallon,
• 23:17
  live in Houston and do that. Bet. I was like, but I
• 23:19
  got wisdom from, you know, somebody like Mike Holmes, and because right
• 23:23
  he told me when he first started coaching, you know, he would live
• 23:29
  in a hotel during the week and go home on the weekend. So it's
• 23:32
  like people see him as a you know, a head coach of this,
• 23:36
  you know Seattle and you know Green Bay and this and that, but they
• 23:40
  don't know what it took for you to get to that head coaching position,
• 23:44
  what you what you had to sacrifice to do it. And I was like,
• 23:47
  so I always take take my hat off to people, because a lot
• 23:49
  of time people look at where you are versus the whole complete journey, you
• 23:55
  know what I'm saying, and and and they'll judge you on the end versus
• 23:59
  what you had to go through and get to that point. So a lot
• 24:02
  of respect for him, and I appreciate him sharing that information with me.
• 24:06
  Judging by your description, I'm almost getting the feeling if actually equivalent to being
• 24:10
  a truck driver. Well heard that analogy before. I haven't been been put
• 24:18
  like this truck depending on what type of trucks, right, Okay, some
• 24:22
  guys that drive and come home every day, and then you got some guys
• 24:26
  they're gone for a week, they come out, you know, come home
• 24:30
  for a day or two, and then they might be going out for a
• 24:32
  week or two. It's just that would be hard for me. I know
• 24:36
  that, you gotta be honest with yourself. I could do truck driving,
• 24:40
  but over the road like that, going you know, for weeks at a
• 24:42
  time and then come home. That that ain't for me. The lowieling something
• 24:48
  like that, I might do that. Well, you set me up for
• 24:52
  that, rich and you know how, why can I tell you? So,
• 24:56
  I've got two more NFL questions before I turn over him out. But
• 25:00
  since you're wearing that Texas A and M shirt, I don't like the idea
• 25:03
  that Texas A and M and Texas are going to be playing in the Southeastern
• 25:07
  Conference. Yeah. That, uh, that should be interesting again. I
• 25:12
  mean I can remember back when I was in college and that was the game
• 25:17
  that you know, you can lose all the rest of them, but you
• 25:19
  wanted to beat Texas, you know, just for bragging rights and this and
• 25:23
  that, and um, it's not gonna take long and renew that rivalry.
• 25:27
  And also University of Oklahoma is also Um I mentioned the SEC, so I'm
• 25:33
  thinking they will probably pair and M and Texas in the in the same division
• 25:38
  where you can have that that old school rival again. I think it's just
• 25:42
  good for TV rates and this and that. So I'm looking forward to it.
• 25:48
  I got some bunch of my aggie buddies and it got a few long
• 25:51
  horns that I bought heads with everything, and so that'll be interesting and we
• 25:56
  can we can go back and forth on the media. So should be pretty
• 26:00
  cool. Well, I'll just say one thing, and it's just my personal
• 26:03
  opinion. Take it forever. I think Oklahoma and Texas or in for a
• 26:06
  route awakening going into that conference. It's all I can tell you. You're
• 26:10
  talking about a heavyweight conference in Southeastern conferences. What it is? Two football
• 26:14
  questions before I turn over the mouth, how would you describe today's NFL?
• 26:18
  Uh? Like I said, I think they throw the football a little bit
• 26:22
  more. Um. The game definitely has changed, and I think it's due
• 26:26
  to the salaries that are paid now, especially with quarterbacks and stuff like that.
• 26:33
  Back when I played, you could you could touch them up a little
• 26:37
  bit more where you know, you can't go look and not saying I want
• 26:41
  anybody to go low on them, bit you know you got to stay up
• 26:45
  high. If you accidentally hit them in the face, it's you know,
• 26:48
  personal file. It'sn't that. So they really you know, protect that that
• 26:52
  position. And then um also they waited. You know, they really did
• 26:59
  a good job trying to focus on player safety. You know some of the
• 27:04
  stuff that when I play, you know, you should be able receiver come
• 27:08
  across the middle. You was gonna get hit regardless of what you didn't have
• 27:14
  as much you know, trash talking from the you know the receivers and stuff.
• 27:18
  But it's just it's a different bit man receive across the middle. They
• 27:22
  was gonna unload on and regardless because they wanted him to remember, every time
• 27:27
  you come through here, we're gonna do that. And so it was a
• 27:32
  intimidation factor, which you know, I think a lot of time it worked.
• 27:34
  And even in college football you get the targeting rule, it isn't that
• 27:38
  and it's tough sometime because I understand what they're doing. But a lot of
• 27:45
  time when you go on full speed, it's almost impossible to you know,
• 27:49
  slow down and not did you trying to hurt nobody, But it's just two
• 27:55
  guys that strong and fast moving and the impact is eventually gonna happen. Bit
• 27:59
  it's it's changed, And I understand that it was a little hard at first
• 28:03
  because you used to the way you used to play the game and the way
• 28:07
  they played now. But I just I had to refocus and say, it's
• 28:11
  basically for player safety. And I know, like some of the guys that
• 28:15
  I've played with, you see him with you know, the head trauma or
• 28:18
  you know, speech issues and stuff like, you know, it definitely affected
• 28:23
  them. So I understand what they're doing and I can appreciate that. Well,
• 28:27
  I have a question then, I know you'll like to answer. But
• 28:30
  let's welcome Smoking Jeremy. He's our comic of the network here, and so
• 28:37
  he says hello to us. So, now this guy here is from the
• 28:40
  Detroit area as well. The camp fighting. He calls today's NFL soft as
• 28:45
  waft. He's old school already know where yet when he says that he's old
• 28:51
  school, yeah, it's just and this guy. If you ever get on
• 28:53
  the show with him, I guarantee you won't be answering questions. You'll be
• 28:56
  laughing as hard as you can. I he even had I mean knock my
• 29:00
  hat off one time. It's so funny. All right, one more question,
• 29:03
  now I'm gonna turn over the mouth. How many archers dan Marino?
• 29:06
  Go ahead and get in today's Oh he well, before I got there,
• 29:11
  he threw close to five thousand yards so in this in this air and the
• 29:15
  way they earned it out now and the way yeah, fifty five six six
• 29:22
  thousand and just he would be he would be so happy if he could play
• 29:26
  in this league right now, especially the way the leagues and stuff. Yeah,
• 29:30
  he would eat it up. Yeah he would. He would eat it
• 29:32
  up. So yeah, I think the way to summarize Dan Marino would be
• 29:34
  like a kid out of a candy store in this league, for sure,
• 29:37
  wasn't it, And wouldn't let the candy store close. Yeah, he would
• 29:41
  really go home. Yeah, he's like he gets some more that that's it
• 29:45
  all right? Well, Mel deserves a gold medal for being patient, But
• 29:48
  he doesn't have to be patient anymore because I'm gonna turn it over the mouth,
• 29:51
  go ahead, Mount Hey Richmond, really, we really appreciate you coming
• 29:55
  on and taking time out of your your evening to spend some time with us.
• 29:57
  Real quick question, well quick questions. Um, you talked. We
• 30:00
  talked a little bit about Texas A and M and twenty twenty two. I
• 30:04
  think that had the the best incoming freshman class that money could buy. What
• 30:11
  do you think about, uh, Texas, Texas A and M's chances for
• 30:17
  competing for SEC championship and the things that Jimbo Fisher has done there since he's
• 30:21
  gotten there. Yep, I'm not gonna lie mail. Thanks man, I
• 30:26
  appreciate you high man on the show. Um, great question. Last year
• 30:30
  was rough? Um. I think the expectations was extremely high because we had
• 30:34
  the number one recruiting class. I think, Um, what you gotta sometimes
• 30:41
  consider is, even though you got the number one recruiting class, how many
• 30:45
  of those guys are actually ready to play a transition from high school to college?
• 30:51
  Not making excuses? But we went we played three quarterbacks last year.
• 30:56
  You know, two of them got hurt. Um, So it was it
• 31:00
  was rough and lost games that we shouldn't have lost. That made rough.
• 31:06
  So twenty twenty two was rough for for me. I don't know about the
• 31:08
  rest of the aggages. I'm sure they weren't happy. Bit definitely didn't meet
• 31:12
  expectations. But um, I think toward the end of the year, Connor
• 31:17
  Whedon he was the quarterback. He was a freshman out of Houston here and
• 31:22
  they kind of put together the last two or three games, and so I
• 31:26
  believe he's gonna be the starter this year and the offensive line should be better.
• 31:32
  We lost, you know, Devine eh Chain, he's going to the
• 31:34
  Miami Dolphins. He was thirty round pick, and you know, he was
• 31:37
  kind of the work horse, and I think we should be better. I
• 31:42
  don't know if we're gonna compete, to be honest with you, for that
• 31:47
  championship. You know, we still got to compete with LSU. I think
• 31:51
  they got a lot of return starters. If Alabama gets a quarterback, they're
• 31:56
  always in the conversation. This isn't that. So it's tough to be but
• 32:00
  we got some work to do. But I definitely expected to be much better
• 32:04
  than it was last year. Last year was pretty rough and we definitely didn't
• 32:07
  meet expectations. If you ask me, let me go to the chat room
• 32:12
  real quick, just so you get this out and Mel keep going smoking Jeremany.
• 32:15
  Back at it again. So seventeen games and new rules, Marino could
• 32:19
  throw for seventy five hundred a season. I think that's realistic the way he
• 32:22
  used to throw the football. And I've forgotten, right, we only played
• 32:24
  sixteen you right, then you played the extra game, so yeah, you're
• 32:29
  right. You probably had another five hug yours to a game to that.
• 32:31
  So yeah, that don't worry. That's probably worry. Don't worry, Richmond.
• 32:36
  The next time you come out of the show smoking Jeremy, here's it.
• 32:38
  He'll be a part of it. So you can deal it to this
• 32:40
  character. He's as funny as and knowledgeable as they got it. Go ahead
• 32:44
  and mouth continue. Yeah, and you're right about that. You bring up
• 32:45
  a good point about freshman being ready to play. I think you know,
• 32:49
  when we all go to college and we're all recruited, you know, we
• 32:52
  only see the starters who you know, on TV, we see the starters
• 32:54
  who are the starters, but you don't realize who the backups are and the
• 32:58
  guys who have been in the program for a long period of time. And
• 33:00
  you know, it really comes down to trust. You know, the coaches
• 33:04
  has to trust that you're going to go out there and do what you're supposed
• 33:07
  to do when you're supposed to do it. And these guys that have been
• 33:09
  in the program, they've been there a long time, so there's a trust.
• 33:12
  There's a relationship that these coaches have with these players. Me and my
• 33:15
  brother were talking about that when you see all these kids going into the portal,
• 33:20
  and I wanted two questions here, what do you think about the transfer
• 33:22
  portal? And what is your what is your opinion on nil? This is
• 33:28
  UM And you bring up a great point, and let me assert myself in
• 33:37
  today's game if I'm just gonna be honest with you so I can remember,
• 33:40
  and you brought up a great point. Highly recruited out of high school and
• 33:45
  UM signed with Texas and E M and so actually I was a defensive lineman
• 33:50
  coming out and UM they you know, coaches to them, oh you'll you'll
• 33:54
  be second string when you get there. And so I there and they had
• 34:00
  moved a couple of guys from from outside linebacker the D line, and I
• 34:05
  was like third stream and I wasn't really getting that many reps and you know,
• 34:10
  you don't find out. But I tell kids, I say, when
• 34:13
  you're getting recruited, that's the honeymoon. Honeymoon stage. They're gonna tell you
• 34:16
  what you want to hear to get you there because they know that you were
• 34:21
  a good player. But sometimes it takes development. Like I was two forty
• 34:25
  coming out of high school, which really I was I needed to put on
• 34:29
  weight, bulk up, and this and that. But I can remember getting
• 34:34
  frustrated and because I wasn't playing and this and that, and you know,
• 34:38
  they had guys just the biggest medias and that there. And so if I
• 34:44
  was probably now, I probably would have got frustrated and my parents would have
• 34:49
  probably told me that. But I would have probably had those same um issues
• 34:54
  of not being mature enough to say, hey, stick it out this and
• 34:57
  that because everybody's telling you that down you get money and said, well,
• 35:02
  I can just go somewhere else. It's now, you know, especially if
• 35:05
  you're highly recruited. So I think it could it could slow down the maturity
• 35:10
  process for players. And then the other thing I look as it could also
• 35:15
  force guys to sell. If you don't stay focused, you can get happy
• 35:21
  or comfortable where you are and never really meet the expectation that you know that
• 35:27
  you can meet. So I like that they are getting the money. I
• 35:30
  just wish if they get a certain amount of money, if it was a
• 35:35
  way they could kind of put it back and maybe invest part of a form
• 35:38
  so they have something out to that, because a lot of kids come to
• 35:43
  get the money and they just they might come from a family doesn't have knowledge
• 35:46
  of investing the money. It's in that and you can blow through it.
• 35:51
  And that's the last thing. I don't want to hear a bunch of horror
• 35:53
  stories about kids. It's got money, because most people say, well,
• 35:58
  they got all this money, they should have something left. But if you're
• 36:00
  not educated on investing or how to manage money and stuff like that, I
• 36:06
  don't care who you are, you're run through it. And that's my only
• 36:09
  concern. I like that they are getting the money. It's just I wish
• 36:14
  they would stay focused on the goal. If it's truly what you love to
• 36:17
  do, stay focused, keep working hard, busting you but so you can
• 36:22
  make it to the NFL. But this this takes pressure off of you now.
• 36:27
  But you know, educate them if you could. And I guess it's
• 36:30
  hard because you can't tell nobody once you get them the money. But if
• 36:34
  it was a way you can say, well, after X amount of dollars,
• 36:37
  we'll put this up in annuity or some type of investment or something conservative
• 36:42
  investment where it's earning money for you that even if things don't work out you
• 36:45
  get hurt. This isn't that you got. You got a little nest egg
• 36:49
  to go and finish college, get your degree and maybe transition into some kind
• 36:52
  of you know, profession or something. So that that's the that's my concern
• 36:58
  with it. But I understand and because I enough they gave me that money,
• 37:01
  I wouldn't have been mature, you know what I'm saying. It's just
• 37:05
  I don't think it's journey different now than than we were back then. You
• 37:07
  know, I don't think they're going to be you know, that's something that
• 37:10
  concerns me. You know, there needs to be some type of financial literacy
• 37:14
  education that goes along with giving them that money. And like you said,
• 37:17
  you know, as I don't know one freshman that wasn't happy with their playing
• 37:21
  time and ain't coming freshman, and you know I was the same way.
• 37:23
  You know, I'm gonna transfer, man, you know, because there was
• 37:27
  a guy they put in the game before me. I'm practicing all week.
• 37:29
  This guy comes off injury, and the last game we're playing against USC they
• 37:32
  put him in the game before me. I've been running a second team all
• 37:36
  year long as a true freshman. All of a sudden, this guy comes
• 37:37
  back from injury, they put him in there. Man, I'm ready to
• 37:39
  go. But my dad, you know, obviously he went to UCLA,
• 37:43
  but you know I had strong parents too, and he's like, now,
• 37:45
  son, yeah, that's that's that's not how we do things. That's not
• 37:47
  why we do. You just stick it out, man, Just go just
• 37:50
  go to work, put your head down and go to work. And U
• 37:52
  c l A SC is like the Texas Texas A and M Where are Now
• 37:57
  that's that rivalry. Like you said, you've been putting work in. We're
• 38:00
  like, man, it's my time to shine. I'm ready to go in.
• 38:02
  This guy hadn't practiced, buds and come in and the wo man,
• 38:07
  Okay, yeah, I'm ready. Hey look here, I'm ready to get
• 38:10
  out of here. But I'm glad to Transferport wasn't around me, because that
• 38:14
  would have been the worst mistake. That the worst, worst, worstake that
• 38:16
  I could have made, man, the worst decision I would have would have
• 38:19
  made at that particular time. All right, so you know what we gotta
• 38:22
  do. We gotta go back to the chat room and then keep it going.
• 38:23
  Mel, I mean, I owe it to these people to put their
• 38:25
  comments up anyhow, Sorry, we'll go back to smoking. Jeremy b all
• 38:30
  right, it's the number one recruiting class. I think he means in three
• 38:34
  years the school has a fantastic time nine out of ten times if I'm reading
• 38:37
  it right, yas he says three years or just gonna whip through those a
• 38:40
  little bit. Well, not like that, okay, and then we'll go
• 38:45
  to what else he has to say. Oh, you guys alluded to the
• 38:49
  portals the now caters for both the arriving school and the player. So there
• 38:52
  you go. So that's everything that you guys more or less talked about.
• 38:57
  All right, Mel, continue on. Please. You know you say you're
• 39:00
  a fan of the game, and you watch the game, and obviously I'm
• 39:01
  sure you watch the Dolphins a little bit. And we talked about this on
• 39:05
  one of the shows earlier in the year about a quarterback situation with two attack
• 39:08
  of ALOA and I'm just wondering, you know what. You know, we
• 39:13
  talked about, you know, if I were him, what would I do?
• 39:15
  And you know, what do you you know, obviously, how do
• 39:17
  you feel about him as a quarterback? And then given his history in the
• 39:23
  type of injury we're not it's not that it's necessarily injury prone, but just
• 39:27
  the type of injury that he's been dealing with. What kind of advice would
• 39:31
  what would you do in that type of situation? And I know it's difficult
• 39:35
  to say what you would put yourself in that situation because it's football players.
• 39:37
  You know, we were like warriors. But if that was your son,
• 39:40
  you know, what kind of advice would you how would you advise him?
• 39:44
  Well, I think the thing is and you're right, you don't know.
• 39:47
  And then previously before him, that's when all the ct start coming out to
• 39:52
  last step, so you hear all that. And then I think the thing
• 39:57
  that really stood out with two A type of was he had the concussions,
• 40:02
  but when he had it was a Sunday night primetime what was a Thursday night
• 40:07
  game, primetime game against the Bengals, And when he got the concussion and
• 40:13
  his hands kind of like froze up when that was on national TV. And
• 40:17
  then that happened, and then the more Hamlin you know, at the same
• 40:22
  game. It was just it was crazy. But when people saw that,
• 40:27
  I think that left for their mind that you know, he needs to retire
• 40:30
  this net. So as a parent, you're definitely gonna be concerned. As
• 40:34
  as as a person that's playing, you're gonna be concerned. I think,
• 40:37
  um, what they did after he got one later on, I think it
• 40:40
  was made against Green Bay later in the year, they kind of shut him
• 40:45
  down, and I think they just took exprecautions and hed, we're not gonna
• 40:50
  play him anymore this year. And I think he got valued by evaluated by
• 40:53
  team doctors. But I think if I'm him, I would go get evaluated
• 40:58
  by the best specialists, you know, far as dealing with this, and
• 41:02
  then just take some time to really think about it. But uh, and
• 41:08
  he's even mentioned that he actually thought about retiring, but he made decision to
• 41:14
  come back. The thing I would would would just focus on him is take
• 41:21
  what you can get sometime. And I'm not saying tucking hold up that,
• 41:24
  I'm just saying I think it's a quarterback. Sometime you're not gonna be able
• 41:29
  to drive the ball down there every time. So sometimes a successful drive is
• 41:32
  two first downs. You know, you got to play field position U this
• 41:37
  and that. So I think learning those things to say, okay, if
• 41:40
  the player is not there, this and that and blah blah blah, get
• 41:44
  down and you know, protect yourself this and that and live with no.
• 41:46
  Hey we have to pump this time. That's not all bad. But you're
• 41:50
  not gonna be able to score every time this and that. But really you
• 41:54
  got to really focus in because, like you said, you don't want to
• 41:57
  have another You don't want to just to be a lingering problem and then say
• 42:01
  okay, now I got to retire, and then years down the road to
• 42:05
  look back and say, you know, I probably should have did it this
• 42:07
  and that. So he's made the decision. I respect his decision. But
• 42:14
  just be smarter with the football, I guess that's the thing, and not
• 42:16
  take unnecessary chances or blows if you can avoid them to because this is your
• 42:22
  body and there is life out of football. So yeah, according to Jeremy
• 42:28
  B he seems to think you should have taken that signing bonus and set it
• 42:30
  on the beach of the Muhammad. So I'm the worst thing in the world
• 42:32
  to do if you're really getting busted up like that. And who am I
• 42:37
  is saying about concussions to Richmond because I've had a couple and I have to
• 42:40
  get one of those botox shots on Thursday, and I'm not looking forward to
• 42:45
  it. I suffered a couple and then you can't get around about head injuries
• 42:49
  because you don't nobody should ever take them lately when you're watching listen. Yeah,
• 42:53
  and you know, I think that's the difference. Today. They got
• 42:57
  the little tent that they bring you, they take your help. I mean
• 43:00
  this and that. Back when me and Mel played it, you know,
• 43:02
  you might get a stinger a little days and you black man, I gotta
• 43:06
  shake it off. And so I'm sure we played with more concussions than you
• 43:10
  know, was ever reported. So you know, it was almost like,
• 43:15
  you know, you gotta be a tough man mentally, you know, you
• 43:19
  show you that and then people say, all he's saw for he's you know,
• 43:22
  he's a glass he's a glass jar or something. You know, he's
• 43:27
  easily broken or whatever. But yeah, I was just I'm glad it's kind
• 43:30
  of changing because they realized not during your playing career, but years after they're
• 43:36
  fixed and it hasn't. And I think that's that's why I said I had
• 43:40
  to struggle with to say we played it a certain way, but now I
• 43:45
  understand. But when it first happened, I was like, oh, man,
• 43:46
  you know this and that blah blah blah. But uh, it's actually
• 43:51
  for the best for the players, So I get that now. Yeah,
• 43:54
  we talked about it with Scott before. I was telling when I went to
• 43:57
  UCLA, I wore bike helmets in high school and I got to UCLA were
• 44:00
  wearing right el helmets, and then every time I hit with a right el
• 44:04
  man, I'd get a headache. I kept Annison in my socks because I
• 44:07
  get a headache. And I said, hey, you know, I went
• 44:08
  to the equipment manager. Can I get Can I get a bike helmet?
• 44:10
  Said no longer. You know, there's a lawsuit going on with bike.
• 44:13
  The only way you can get a bike helmet is if you get a concussion.
• 44:15
  But the last game we're playing against University of Miami in the Fiesta Bowl
• 44:22
  opening kickoff, I got concussed, and you know, I went to the
• 44:25
  went to the sidelines. I didn't know where I was att and all that
• 44:28
  kind of stuff. I was probably out about ten to fifteen minutes, and
• 44:30
  then once you come to you go back in the game. But my first
• 44:31
  thing was I went over to the trainer. I was like, hey,
• 44:34
  I can get a bike helmet. It's like, yep, you can get
• 44:36
  a bike. I never had no problems, but problem. You know we
• 44:40
  were talking. You know, we were taught to hit with our head,
• 44:43
  you know, put you put it, put your helmet right underneath the chin.
• 44:45
  You know, that's how we were taught to hit. And you know
• 44:47
  that's the thing that's count puzzling. Like you said, if bike made us
• 44:52
  a much better product than right L, why wouldn't you want your players to
• 44:57
  brow that. You know what I'm saying. You know, if they it
• 45:00
  was that nalized. There was neck injuries. People were getting neck injuries with
• 45:02
  the bike helmet. So there was a lawsuit. But I had so much
• 45:05
  more confidence with a bike helmet than I did with a right del where you
• 45:09
  know I would put my head, I'd put my head in there with a
• 45:12
  little question about it because I knew I'd be okay. But with a rider,
• 45:15
  oh, my goodness, man, I could not hit with a right
• 45:17
  del at all. So we just had The draft office didn't have many draft
• 45:22
  picks, and this last coming draft obviously one because of the tampering. But
• 45:28
  what did you think of their their draft hall with the four picks that they
• 45:30
  did have. Yeah, I thought they did pretty good. Like you said,
• 45:35
  you know, the tampering, and then we brought in Tyreek Hill,
• 45:38
  and then we brought in Chubbed, the outside linebreaker. So we had made
• 45:43
  some some moves with teams before that to where we knew we would have those
• 45:47
  picks. But we got the defensive back out of South Carolina. We got
• 45:53
  Davanne Chain and which is another speech through. I mean we probably got one
• 45:58
  of the fastest ters in the NFL. Right now, last question, Yeah,
• 46:02
  I like what they did, especially with having not having the first round
• 46:06
  pick this and that, so I was happy with what they did. At
• 46:08
  first, I was hoping they would get like a offensive lineman or something offensive
• 46:15
  tackle to kind of show up the offensive line, but they got one in
• 46:17
  the later later round drafts. But but I like what they did. I
• 46:21
  think they did pretty good for what they what they had to work with.
• 46:25
  Now you mentioned you played with Cincinnati. I lived in Cincinnati for a little
• 46:29
  while from ninety one to ninety four or something like that, and it wasn't
• 46:32
  wasn't very good years. And my daughter's godfather is like the player of Liaison
• 46:38
  up there. You probably know him, Eric Ball he b Yeah, yeah,
• 46:43
  of course, Yeah, that's that's my daughter. And he's from Michigan
• 46:45
  too, so yeah, he's from Michigan too. I didn't know he was
• 46:50
  from Michigan. And Eric being Eric, have known each other from high school.
• 46:52
  Him and his wife were just down here probably about a month ago,
• 46:54
  and we spent some time together. But yeah, that's my daughter. See
• 46:59
  what's up man, We talk about that. I would definitely, I would
• 47:01
  definitely do that. So the Bengals, you know, I don't know how
• 47:06
  good they were. Who was your coach back then? Was that Marvin Lewis
• 47:07
  was there then? Or I left right before Marvin. I was with Dick
• 47:12
  Labo, okay, and they were walling around futility for a little while there,
• 47:17
  especially when I was living down there in Cincinnati. But you know,
• 47:21
  they've you know, they got some such a quarterback, which we know is
• 47:23
  now. But the way the game is played, that's the most important position
• 47:27
  that there is on the football field. But do you follow them any you
• 47:30
  know, what did you think about their draft? Obviously their fortunes have changed
• 47:35
  since they drafted Joe Burrow. They've gone to a Super Bowl, They've been
• 47:38
  very, very successful. Where you think about the Bengals on what they've been
• 47:40
  doing, I think they've done tremendous job. Like you said, they brought
• 47:45
  in Joe Burrow, Chase and um, you know, mixing us running back,
• 47:50
  but um, they changed the dynamic. And I tell people this.
• 47:53
  You know I played those two years up there, but um, some of
• 47:58
  the most law fans that I ever been around. And like you said,
• 48:01
  I can remember in the nineties, I know, they didn't go to the
• 48:07
  playoffs. And so when I got there in two thousand, two thousand and
• 48:10
  one and being bit you know, I always had great players I played with,
• 48:15
  like Corey Dillon, Williamerson, Tequillo Spikes. They had players, It's
• 48:19
  just they didn't put it all together. But what was surprising to me,
• 48:25
  you know, in Miami if we would lose sometime, it was always something
• 48:30
  to go to the beach, you know, who stuck another third quarter or
• 48:35
  whatever. We always had to deal with being in Miami. It seemed like
• 48:42
  if we would play the Jets, the Giants, the teams up sometimes Chicago
• 48:47
  teams like that, a lot of the snow I call them snowbirds will come
• 48:52
  down to Miami for you know, when they got cold up there, and
• 48:54
  so they would be Dolphin fans until, like you said, Chicago or the
• 49:00
  Jazz and then look around you like, man, where all these people come
• 49:02
  from. They just flew down and so that's that's still there, that's still
• 49:07
  their team. So I understood that being I think we went six and team
• 49:12
  my first year, but I mean we would lose the game and then we
• 49:15
  were going and they would be like they would be so happy and so proud,
• 49:20
  and I was like, I was like, man, y'all really got
• 49:22
  a good fan base up appreciate it, which I had something to compare it
• 49:29
  to. I mean, we got Dolphins, got a good, great fan
• 49:30
  base, but just the loyalty that they showed. And so when when I
• 49:35
  actually, you know, they had a chance to go to the super Bowl,
• 49:38
  and I just thought it was great for that fan base to who that
• 49:40
  nation and all that. So I was truly happy for them. They've definitely
• 49:45
  turned it around, and it had it had been bad for a long time,
• 49:49
  but now that they enjoyed the fruits of their label, so I'm happy
• 49:52
  for him. Yeah. Well you're talking, you're talking about the NFL draft.
• 49:53
  Let me incorporate four other teams all right, now, all got around
• 49:57
  other Dolphins, So let's talk about what come down one at a time.
• 50:00
  Detections. What are your thoughts about the draft that they had Richmond. I
• 50:04
  thought I thought they had a good draft. You know, they got a
• 50:06
  new coach, Damiko Ryan's Stroud, the quarterback out of Ohio State, and
• 50:14
  then to move up and then take will Amerson out of Alabama. I thought
• 50:20
  that was really aggressive. That caught I think not only me, but a
• 50:22
  lot of people off because from when I was here here in Houston was that
• 50:27
  they're not going to select the quarterback, They're going defenses and that. And
• 50:30
  then they took quarterback from Ohio State. I was like, okay. And
• 50:34
  then before breaking news the Texans got traded for the third pick and then come
• 50:39
  out and get it. I was like, okay, So I like what
• 50:42
  they did. They've been aggressive even the draft they had last year. They
• 50:47
  took I think they had maybe two first round picks. It took Stingley out
• 50:52
  of LSU and Green the offensive guard out of a m first round, and
• 50:58
  then I think in the round maybe the running back out of Florida. So
• 51:01
  they got some really good young players. They just gotta kind of put it
• 51:06
  together. Bit. Yeah, it was aggressive. I like what they did.
• 51:08
  So now we got to go to the Eagles, and I think the
• 51:10
  punchline here is Philly Bulldogs. Is that what they've been saying out on the
• 51:15
  web, and they really that phil And then to make manners it more interesting
• 51:19
  to add to DeAndre Swart as well. So let's talk about what the Philadelphia
• 51:22
  and Eagles did over the weekend. Yeah, I mean, if you look
• 51:25
  at it, if you watch the Super Bowl, I mean had off to
• 51:29
  Kansas City. But I think Kansas City was smart not to give the Eagles
• 51:34
  any time left on the football, you know, during that game, because
• 51:37
  it was almost who whoever had the football at the end. But the moves
• 51:43
  they made, they're in position I think to go right back. They should
• 51:47
  go deep in the playoffs again, baring injury whatever they got hurt signed,
• 51:52
  I think the offensive line is still in to act. They was it the
• 51:58
  running back out of Abama? Is that where he went to? UH?
• 52:02
  I think the g Gibbs went to they got they got swift because I was
• 52:07
  like when they did it, that's okay. And then like the day after
• 52:10
  they traded him and I said, man, I traded him to? UH,
• 52:17
  was like okay, So I like what they did. And Detroit had
• 52:22
  a really good draft as well. Yeah, I was going to ask you
• 52:25
  to elaborate on that. So talk about the Lions traft. And I know
• 52:29
  Jeremy V's calling Philadelphia and UGA North. He talks about loving Jamie and Pearce
• 52:32
  as well, but talk about Richman the Detroit Lions trapped as well, if
• 52:37
  you may please. You know what I noticed about Detroit and I watched him
• 52:40
  last year and Dan Campbell is an aggie, he's a head coach, and
• 52:45
  then um and Glenn as an aggie as well, so I pay attention to
• 52:49
  him. But what if you if you go back, even if you're not
• 52:52
  a Lions fan, if you go back and look at the games. They
• 52:54
  lost close games all the first half of the season. I'm like, but
• 53:00
  then a field goal, so they was in every game, they just didn't
• 53:02
  close it. You look at the second half they got it together, and
• 53:07
  I think teams are fortunate that they didn't make it into the playoffs because they
• 53:13
  was playing really good football at the end. They peaked at the right time.
• 53:16
  If they would have won another game or two early on that they lost,
• 53:21
  they've been in the playoffs, and once you get you get a team
• 53:23
  that's hot like that, that's in a rhythm and playing good football, they're
• 53:29
  hard to deal with. So I like, um um. I like what
• 53:32
  they did as well, like the running back from Alabama. They added pieces
• 53:37
  to the puzzle, this and that, so I think they hit in the
• 53:40
  right direction too. And then, uh, what's column is at the Jets
• 53:45
  now? Ye? Right? Rogers? Yeah the game can't excuse me eating
• 53:52
  that up a life. We shouldn't bring it to the Motor City. Yeah,
• 53:57
  fun to take it over. So yeah, I mean, how do
• 54:00
  you like the way Dan Campbell's rubbing in to the fact that it was rogers
• 54:05
  last game, losing the Lions at lambeau Field, And even though the Lions
• 54:08
  didn't make the playoffs, he was definitely going out there and certainly letting everybody
• 54:14
  know, hey, we were gonna win no matter, we were gonna go
• 54:15
  ahead and get holds anyhow. But let's say, thank Rogers out with us
• 54:21
  and they're only national television game of the year, and you know, NBC
• 54:25
  hit a home run when they put the Lions and the Packers on to begin
• 54:29
  with, only for Rogers to end up losing. That you talk about anti
• 54:31
  climactic with a drama king like Rogers. I mean, holy Moley, I
• 54:36
  mean it was still unbelievable night. I'll be at two or three of us
• 54:39
  there had Detroit vibes as well. Yeah, you know, I watched that
• 54:45
  game and then a lot of times what you look at is, you know,
• 54:51
  Detroit is a cold city, but they play in a dome. So
• 54:52
  for them to go to Green Bay play outside in the elements, and they
• 54:58
  was hitting them in the mouth. I mean it was the defense of Detroit
• 55:02
  was so aggressive. I mean they shut down the whole Packer's offense this and
• 55:07
  they played they was having fun, but they was playing a physical style of
• 55:10
  play. And I was like, that's that. And I kept looking at
• 55:14
  said, man, if they wouldn't have lost another game with two, they
• 55:17
  would be in the playoffs. And I say the Thanksgiving game, I mean
• 55:21
  they should have won the Thanksgiving game. The game, you know. Ye,
• 55:23
  So there's a few games there that they could have that they should have
• 55:27
  won. Often game we had to come back and beat them. I remember
• 55:30
  that. It was early in the season, but I remember that. I
• 55:32
  was like, man, they got they just ain't put it at all together.
• 55:36
  It's just like you said, a player team here, this and that.
• 55:38
  It changed the whole dynamic of that and now like, yeah, you
• 55:43
  can see their young team. Man, they gotta learn how to finish,
• 55:45
  you know, and you gotta learn how to finish. Yeah. Well,
• 55:49
  a lot of a lot of these so called draft jacks versure and you know
• 55:52
  what, rich Man, I used the words loosely so called because I know
• 55:54
  you probably hurt them all day long. Criticized Alliance for their first day,
• 55:59
  But I thought they had a pretty decent first day. Maybe some of these
• 56:01
  guys weren't ranked higher on boards. But you know what, the way the
• 56:05
  Brand Holmes and Dan Campbell regime is going, they're trying to change the culture
• 56:08
  with high character players. And there might be a lot of people biting their
• 56:12
  tongue after this draft. You can give them a C plus on all you
• 56:15
  want on the service, but nobody really cares except the ones that are making
• 56:19
  the decisions, right Richmond, yea. And you can grade however you want
• 56:22
  to on paper, right, But when it gets live and it is who
• 56:28
  going to produce, and that's what you judge it on. Everybody looks good
• 56:31
  on paper, you know, oh you got this guy, that guy at
• 56:35
  that, But until it actually manifests, it's just it's just on paper.
• 56:38
  So and you'll you'll see a lot of those guys which that will criticize you,
• 56:44
  and then when you on a hot roll, then they'll they'll bandwagon jump
• 56:47
  over to you and this and this that Alen change that doesn't surprise me at
• 56:52
  all. Well, you know, we'll go to the comment and smoking Germany
• 56:54
  be from thirty second historically bad defense or seven the top fifteen the last time
• 57:00
  summarizers they back into line short season. So let's talk about pick up of
• 57:05
  handon hooker, and then we'll talk about the Pittsburgh Shilers. I know that's
• 57:07
  another team that you thought was that pretty well. Your hooker was the quarterback
• 57:12
  out of Tennessee and they were ranked i know, easily in the top five
• 57:17
  and then I think he heard his knee or something and then um, you
• 57:21
  know, they lost him. For the year. But Tennessee was playing good
• 57:23
  football. They I remember they beat Alabama. I think they played in Tennessee
• 57:29
  and you know, everybody rushed the field and this and that and uh so
• 57:32
  they were they were one of the better college football teams until you know,
• 57:37
  they lost their quarterback. But I watched the last couple yees. I think
• 57:39
  he transferred from baby Virginia Tech or somewhere like that, Virginia Tech, and
• 57:45
  uh that he was, man, he's he's a good player. So um,
• 57:50
  I think he's definitely. I know he still got golf there, but
• 57:52
  he's gonna he's gonna help him out. So I always liked him as a
• 57:54
  college quarterback. Um. I like to see when you can play in pressure
• 58:04
  situations and develop and knock panic and this and that, and he seemed like
• 58:07
  he stayed calm, cool and collecting this and that. I think you need
• 58:10
  that because everybody in the offense is gonna feed off of off the quarterback.
• 58:16
  So if they if you look like you're nervous or we can't do it,
• 58:20
  we ain't gonna do it because everybody's looking at you and they can they can
• 58:22
  get that energy. So I think they got a good quarterback in him.
• 58:27
  He just he just hurt his knee. But yeah, I think they took
• 58:30
  him into what the third round I want. Yeah, that's a good pick
• 58:35
  up for them. Yeah, I think you'll be even sleeper of the draft.
• 58:37
  So tell me. You talked about the Pittsburgh Shields. How would you
• 58:39
  rate their draft? That was another team I'm planning. They they went George's
• 58:46
  will. They took the offensive tackle um out of George in the first round.
• 58:52
  I forgot who he took me a second. But they picked up the
• 58:55
  tight end from George as well. And I think it came out he had
• 59:00
  some injuries or whatever and that caused him to slip and slipping them in the
• 59:06
  Draftler, but he ended up going in the third round. But really he
• 59:07
  was projected to be like a first second round or so. You get a
• 59:13
  guy that caliber that late and then all you gotta do is get them healthy.
• 59:17
  Uh, it just makes you a better football team. So I like
• 59:20
  what they did as well in the draft. You know, we got Joey
• 59:24
  Porter in the second round. What you're talking about? It was supposed to
• 59:28
  be a first round at a p and state. I forgot it. I
• 59:30
  couldn't remember it. Was joy Porter Junior was supposed to. He was projected
• 59:34
  to be a first round and slipped to early second round. So you possibly
• 59:38
  get with your top three picks, you possibly get three caliber guys his first
• 59:44
  round picks. I mean that's that's huge. So yeah, all right,
• 59:47
  well smoking Jeremy V says a top draft include Philly, Kansas City, Taxing,
• 59:52
  Steelers, Detroit. You know, Imo, I'm trying trying to digest
• 59:59
  that one. In my opinion, In my opinion, okay, there,
• 1:00:01
  you're better with those things than I am. So let's talk about Well,
• 1:00:05
  there you go. In my opinion, I learned something from Richmond, thank
• 1:00:07
  you very much. All right. One of a few things I pick up
• 1:00:09
  here with all these little abbreviations, I got a good one though, for
• 1:00:13
  you, GMT. You know what that stands for Richmond. That so with
• 1:00:16
  like time man, great minds think alike. Oh okay, you all knows
• 1:00:23
  I get that one, and so I knew I was gonna get you.
• 1:00:27
  Hey. You know what, there's never a time that I have a GMT.
• 1:00:30
  Hey analogy and Mell has been around me a long time ago. Where
• 1:00:32
  is it gonna throw it somewhere in the show, especially with somebody brand new.
• 1:00:36
  All right, let's talk about the Miami Dolphins. Are you in touch
• 1:00:38
  with the Dolphins? Are a lot? And in what direction? How do
• 1:00:42
  you like the direction that the Dolphins are trending? Oh? I like the
• 1:00:46
  way I like. I like the pieces that added. Um. Like I
• 1:00:50
  said, um, I think the key issue is is to a stand healthy.
• 1:00:54
  All right. I like the fact that they brought in big Fangio as
• 1:01:00
  a defensive coordinator. Um uh, Jayalen Ramsey and exs your corner so U
• 1:01:07
  the things they can do in the pass the game. And then you got
• 1:01:12
  Chubbs and Jayleen Phillips. If you get your pass rush going with two shut
• 1:01:15
  down corners, it could be it could be really interesting. So if everybody
• 1:01:21
  stays healthy and pans out and we keep too healthy along with you know,
• 1:01:25
  Jayla Waddle and we got the cheetah and this and that and you know he
• 1:01:30
  almost had two thousand yards even though two of miss three or four games last
• 1:01:34
  year. So um. And that was Mike McDaniels first year as a head
• 1:01:38
  coach. And the other thing is bringing in Fangio. He's had some head
• 1:01:43
  coaching experience. So when you can add quality people like that to your staff
• 1:01:46
  and stuff like that. I love what they're doing. So the main thing
• 1:01:50
  is just keeping everybody healthy and developing the players and and and making up making
• 1:01:57
  progress and taking another step. Because like you said, you know, Buffalo
• 1:02:01
  was the best team and then Aaron Rodgers just went to the Jets. They've
• 1:02:06
  had some pretty good deal so it's should be a pretty competitive NFC e stpit.
• 1:02:12
  You got to deal with the hand you dealt, but I like what
• 1:02:14
  they did, so we should we should be in pretty good shake. And
• 1:02:15
  here are some other comments. My pumping Jeremy be here alluded what you said.
• 1:02:19
  Joey Porter needs to learn to not use his hands in man coverage eight
• 1:02:23
  shelves in zone coverage because that is since breathe the bread and butter the Penn
• 1:02:29
  State University defense. And we'll go back to as other comment. Then we'll
• 1:02:32
  have some closing thoughts. Patriots gotta still seventeen was Christian comes alas pretty hard
• 1:02:37
  to debate that. So now any other questions for Richmond, Yeah, I
• 1:02:42
  just had one. We talked about it, we alluded to it a little
• 1:02:45
  bit. The game house changed from when you and I played. You know,
• 1:02:47
  I got drafted in nineteen ninety eight and in nineteen ninety eight, nineteen
• 1:02:52
  Eightiot rather, I got draft from nineteen eighty nineteen eighty eight. You could
• 1:02:55
  bring as many guys in the camp as you wanted to. And you know,
• 1:02:59
  I I played for I was drafted by Denver and he came from that
• 1:03:02
  Dallas cowboy kind of philosophy Dan Reeves did, where you invite one hundred and
• 1:03:07
  fifty guys in the camp. Guys were getting cut every day on the way
• 1:03:08
  to breakfast, and you know, it was kind of attrition. You know,
• 1:03:12
  we hit all the time. Two things. Do you think that the
• 1:03:17
  lack of contact that they have doing training camp and even during the season.
• 1:03:23
  I mean, we hit all the time. And we had two days for
• 1:03:30
  six weeks you know where you know when I went to camp, we had
• 1:03:34
  two days for six weeks. We went to get really Colorado and it was
• 1:03:38
  up there near some kind of cow farm or something like that, and you
• 1:03:43
  had the manure smell first thing in the morning, and it was just got
• 1:03:46
  awful and it was hot. But it was six weeks of non stop hitting.
• 1:03:52
  I mean, you know when my first year there and I was kind
• 1:03:54
  of an all you know, twenty doors set got traded there. I'm like,
• 1:03:57
  man, in junior high school, I wore your number. I thought
• 1:03:59
  it was you know, and I'm like, look at it. I'm like,
• 1:04:01
  man, this a little bitty guy. Man was raising all that sin.
• 1:04:03
  I mean this little bitty guy because you know, if you ever meet
• 1:04:06
  Tony, he's a little bit. He's a little guy. Yeah. But
• 1:04:10
  with do you do you think number one injuries? Do you think the lack
• 1:04:14
  of hitting because you don't always you know, we always talk about you gotta
• 1:04:15
  know, build up that cause on your on your body. Do you think
• 1:04:19
  the lack of hitting attributes to more hitting injuries? And then the money is
• 1:04:24
  so much different than when we played, uh? Is it you think it's
• 1:04:28
  easier or tougher to coach these guys now with the with the money because you
• 1:04:31
  know the uh Dan Reeves was a disciplinarian like you talked about times luck about
• 1:04:38
  Don Shua and you get fine for everything. Um. Then I played for
• 1:04:42
  John Robinson, who was a guy. He said, I'm gonna treat you
• 1:04:44
  guys all like men into you know, show me otherwise. You know,
• 1:04:46
  we live in La We know this traffic. If you're late, just come
• 1:04:49
  on in and sit down. But and I'm not gonna say anything, but
• 1:04:53
  if I see it's a problem it becomes a habit, then we'll have to
• 1:04:55
  have a conversation about it, discuss it. He didn't have a whole lot
• 1:04:58
  of rules, you know, he didn't have a the rules where another guy.
• 1:05:00
  You know, if you're a pound overweight, it's fifty dollars, all
• 1:05:02
  kinds of rules. If you went off side, you're gonna be running or
• 1:05:05
  you're gonna get fined all, you know, all kind of rules for everything.
• 1:05:10
  Do you think it's tougher now with the money the coach players now?
• 1:05:12
  And then do you think because of the lack of hitting that is one of
• 1:05:15
  the reasons why we see some of the injuries particularly too, you know,
• 1:05:18
  like like like a running back. Yeah, I do think, um,
• 1:05:25
  the lack of hitting does play a factor. I think in a lot of
• 1:05:30
  a lot of the injuries we have now. And I'll say this, you're
• 1:05:34
  right. We had the sixth day of two of days and I can remember
• 1:05:38
  toward the end and I think this was maybe about ninety nine or somewhere like
• 1:05:43
  Dallas playing and I held out the year because I ain't have a contract and
• 1:05:46
  I signed right before the season. I wasn't in physical shape, but my
• 1:05:51
  body felt so much better. Because I think with two of days six weeks
• 1:05:57
  of it, that's too much just just tearing your body down. I do
• 1:06:01
  it, you know, maybe one to day this and that, and I'm
• 1:06:03
  not saying it's got to be six weeks, but I think it definitely helps
• 1:06:09
  with you getting your pad level down. If it's some technique things you got
• 1:06:13
  to work on, especially in the offensive line defensive line, if you got
• 1:06:16
  to work on you know, pass blocking or run blocking, it you can't
• 1:06:21
  do it. That's just something you just can't do in shorts and held its
• 1:06:25
  and this and that. And even back when we played, I think it
• 1:06:30
  were certain teams that would kind of do that during training camp, and then
• 1:06:32
  you had like the forty nine ers, and then I think when Shanahan came
• 1:06:36
  to Denver, he came from that forty nine of tree and a lot of
• 1:06:41
  times they wouldn't do a lot of hidden during the season. It was quickness,
• 1:06:44
  and but you've you kind of corrected everything during training camp to where you
• 1:06:48
  can pull the pads off. And then I think home homearing came out from
• 1:06:53
  under that sou but I think the way they do it now, they don't
• 1:06:57
  hardly hit at all periods. So I'm like, if you're struggling in an
• 1:07:00
  area where you need to get that technique side, it's almost like you can't
• 1:07:06
  get it. Or if you're a backup player and you need to work on,
• 1:07:12
  you know, getting better, how do you do it because you never
• 1:07:15
  have pads on. So it's like it should be a balance. I'm i
• 1:07:17
  saying it should go back to the old way, but they need to do
• 1:07:20
  a little bit more hidden. I think that would eliminate a lot of the
• 1:07:25
  entries. And then on the second, the second point, that was the
• 1:07:28
  thing about free agency. You almost got to be a really try to be
• 1:07:32
  a really good judge of character of the guys you kind of bring in this
• 1:07:38
  and that, because if you sign a guy to a big time contract and
• 1:07:43
  he bringing the wrong energy, he can be a cancer to the team,
• 1:07:45
  he can divide the team. You know this and that, and you're almost
• 1:07:48
  stuck with him for a couple of years. So because the salary cap forces
• 1:07:55
  you, like like you got to take such a big hit, So it's
• 1:07:58
  like not like I'm stuck with him a couple of years, So it does
• 1:08:00
  make it um harder to if you're bringing the wrong guy, it can it
• 1:08:06
  can jack up everything. But I think for the most part, I think
• 1:08:11
  it depends on the organization. You go to. Some guys, I think
• 1:08:14
  they pretty much respect and it's it's just like you said, just like with
• 1:08:17
  Coach Robinson in college, you got coaches like that. They respect you,
• 1:08:21
  they treat you as a man, and it's that and they have success with
• 1:08:26
  it. You got to count of do what works for you, and you
• 1:08:30
  know, if you need to be a Tom Landry or shoes and you gotta
• 1:08:33
  if that works work debit, you got you got a draft. Yeah,
• 1:08:40
  all right, So let's go back to the chat room because obviously you guys
• 1:08:43
  are speaking and obviously will bring these points to Jeremy mentioning on the Forefront Lover
• 1:08:47
  and Resident running back in the show, he makes some great points about to
• 1:08:50
  soft practicing, so that's what you guys are talking about, and then well
• 1:08:54
  he continues on by saying they need to go full contact practicing every other day.
• 1:08:59
  So yeah, that pretty much reinforces what you guys are talking about as
• 1:09:02
  well. You don't need to go full contact. What we did and Richmond
• 1:09:05
  will tell you shorts and shoulder pads is just like full just like full pads.
• 1:09:09
  I mean back of the day, I didn't wear the knee pads and
• 1:09:11
  five pads and stuff like that because you're just trying to be as light as
• 1:09:14
  you possibly can. That was important for me is to be able to run
• 1:09:16
  all day long, more so than being strong, even though I was already
• 1:09:19
  strong, but you got to be able to run all day. But you
• 1:09:23
  know, I watched something. I watched two of the best go at it
• 1:09:25
  day in and day out, and as Jackie Slayter and Kevin Green and man
• 1:09:28
  the battles that they would have man just and we you know, John Robinson
• 1:09:32
  was a big believer in getting your work in and getting out, getting you
• 1:09:35
  know, getting on your getting off your feet, get off your feet.
• 1:09:38
  You know, practices weren't gonna be more than an hour and a half long.
• 1:09:41
  We're gonna get in, get our work done, and get off our
• 1:09:43
  feet. And during during the season, you know, during training camp we
• 1:09:46
  practice hard, but during the season it was shorts and shoulder pads for the
• 1:09:49
  most part. Very seldom would we did we practice in full pads, but
• 1:09:54
  really shorts and shoulder pads. It's just like full go. You just don't
• 1:09:57
  go to the ground. You know, you can get a lot of worked
• 1:10:00
  one with shorts and shoulder pads. So Richmond, no show would be complete
• 1:10:03
  if I didn't mention this. Dan Campbell thought about the combine where he says
• 1:10:08
  it's like they're practicing in pajamas. You remember that comment that he made that
• 1:10:13
  he doesn't think much of the combine at all. Remember that comment that he
• 1:10:16
  doesn't really care about the combine at all. Well, I mean, well,
• 1:10:20
  of course, not that Dan Campbell's ever had a loss rewards anyways.
• 1:10:26
  Well, I know the combine you really don't practice. You kind of go
• 1:10:30
  through the drills and stuff there. So I wonder was he meaning like the
• 1:10:35
  Senior Bowl or some of the bowl games. But it's just yeah, it's
• 1:10:39
  it's different now made for TV. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it is.
• 1:10:45
  I'll tell you what when I put when I go out all right,
• 1:10:49
  So he's Jeremy's out there, He's called the combine the pajama Olympics. There
• 1:10:54
  you go, there's a clarity. You know what, Jeremy, I'm still
• 1:10:58
  not gonna lose his head over your comment. I promise you that you may
• 1:11:00
  get away with it when we're on this show. But I got to keep
• 1:11:02
  it straight because we've turned the Sports Exchange and the inside the pigskin, and
• 1:11:06
  we're still having a blast of that. You know what's so fun about Richmond
• 1:11:10
  and Mel? I knew when I paired you guys up together, this is
• 1:11:13
  going to be a dynamite show. And to say that we've left no stones
• 1:11:16
  unturned, I'd like to think we're at least accomplishing that. We're as evidenced
• 1:11:20
  by the chat room. You see how busy this thing is. But both
• 1:11:24
  of you guys, I don't think I've kept this quiet in a long time.
• 1:11:28
  But Mel's doing a heck of a job trying to steal my job.
• 1:11:30
  But and you know what, Richmond, No, I've always been an admirer
• 1:11:34
  of yours. Anyways, in your playing days. It's just so neat to
• 1:11:38
  have you on here to talk about your football expertise. You know, the
• 1:11:41
  one thing that gets used a lot on TV by a lot of these networks.
• 1:11:45
  A future Hall of Famers. Okay, in my opinion, you are
• 1:11:47
  a you should have been a current Hall of Famer, but future Hall of
• 1:11:51
  Famer certainly defines what you are in terms of what Canton will be. But
• 1:11:56
  you're a Hall of Famer in my eyes, and I'm sure Malcolm probably attest
• 1:11:59
  to that as well. You know, we're just we're just so glad that
• 1:12:04
  you've been able to join us tonight here on the Sports Exchange. So any
• 1:12:09
  closing thoughts met? Yeah, First of all, I want to thank you
• 1:12:12
  for spending some time with us. I really appreciate it, appreciate that you're
• 1:12:15
  an outstanding gentleman. I did get an opportunity to follow your career some and
• 1:12:19
  in looking at you know, four time All Pro, you know, two
• 1:12:24
  time first team All Pro, two time second team All Pro, and obviously
• 1:12:28
  with the seven Pro Bowls, you know my first question in my mind.
• 1:12:30
  And we had this conversation a little while a few weeks ago talking about one
• 1:12:35
  of your contemporaries, Loomis Brown, who has very similar numbers to you.
• 1:12:40
  It's like, man, you know, why is this guy not in the
• 1:12:43
  Hall of Fame? And now I would do you know everything that I can
• 1:12:45
  as far as making sure that your name appears on that ballot each and every
• 1:12:49
  year, because I figured out what you have to do. I mean anybody
• 1:12:51
  can. Anybody can nominate someone for the Hall of Fame, is what I
• 1:12:55
  what I found out. It does not have to be a local reporter,
• 1:12:58
  so anyone can nominate one for the Hall of Fame. But obviously you've gotten
• 1:13:00
  on the ballot a few times, so I think you're getting a lot closer
• 1:13:03
  than Lomas has gotten. But you look at Lomas Brown's numbers, and you
• 1:13:06
  know, played sixteen years and I forgot how many Pro Bowls and All Pros
• 1:13:11
  he's had. But he's also deserving of it, just as you are in
• 1:13:15
  your and you know you're a Hall of Fame player and also a Hall of
• 1:13:18
  Fame person. And appreciate you taking your time out of this evening to spend
• 1:13:23
  some time in chatting chatting with Scott. And I'm so back to you.
• 1:13:26
  Scott. All right, Mel, thank you very much. I'll tell you
• 1:13:29
  what a show we've really had. We appreciate all the participation in the chat
• 1:13:32
  room. And you know, I'll tell you what, as Jeremy would say
• 1:13:36
  if you were on the year. Okay, but we'll put this out there.
• 1:13:40
  There were three watching on YouTube when I got here. Get those lights
• 1:13:43
  up. There probably a lot more now because this show's getting better as the
• 1:13:46
  questions keep coming, and when you have the material I have, it's unbelievable.
• 1:13:49
  So what that said, Richmond, You know, is there anything that
• 1:13:55
  you want to say that we probably haven't discussed right now that we probably left
• 1:13:58
  out of this conversation. You know, I think it was some really good
• 1:14:01
  questions. I think we covered some real good topics. Um um, Mail
• 1:14:05
  definitely took me back. I know longmost real well, that's one of my
• 1:14:11
  real good friends, and I agree with him. Um uh, definitely should
• 1:14:15
  be in the Hall of Fame. Um I know that brother' he's a South
• 1:14:19
  Florida key I think played Florida as well, so I know a longost real
• 1:14:25
  well. And then he brought up Eric Ball, and I brought a smile
• 1:14:28
  on my face and said, man, hold up, man, we know
• 1:14:30
  some of the same people. So yeah, we're about the same Maide.
• 1:14:32
  So it's always good you can kind of reflect and relate and and and we
• 1:14:39
  both played in that same era so we know a lot of the same players
• 1:14:42
  and and all that. But man, it was definitely a pleasure, and
• 1:14:46
  I appreciate you having me on the show. And I had a great time.
• 1:14:49
  So no I close the comments is this was this was fun for me
• 1:14:55
  and I got to reflect and answer some good questions. And I hope the
• 1:14:59
  people that were and then that they enjoyed the show as well, because what
• 1:15:02
  we're looking forward to having your back. But it got a dolphin ready to
• 1:15:05
  close out Richmond, right, we need you to play tackles, so he's
• 1:15:09
  trying to get man. Oh my goodness. Hey, you guys, the
• 1:15:13
  longer you have these shows, you never know what's gonna be thrown your way.
• 1:15:16
  All right. So with that said, no, let everybody know how
• 1:15:18
  I didn't get ahold of because I think Richmond's gonna like what you have to
• 1:15:20
  say. Reached me on all the social media at Melfar dot org. That's
• 1:15:26
  uh, I mean, excuse me, Melfar Junior. That's Facebook, Twitter
• 1:15:29
  and LinkedIn and Instagram, and then find out what we had going on here
• 1:15:32
  in Atlanta and also up in Michigan for the youth at melfard dot org.
• 1:15:35
  All right, well, Richmond, is there any way you want people to
• 1:15:38
  get ahold of you as all? My friend? Yeah, Facebook and Twitter
• 1:15:44
  is Richmond Webb and Instagram is at the real Richmond Webb. Somebody actually had
• 1:15:49
  Richmond Webb. I couldn't believe that I got one of those odd names,
• 1:15:53
  but um that they're LinkedIn, I'm Richmond Webb and I'm not on TikTok anything,
• 1:15:59
  so that's the easiest way to get put my name there, and normally
• 1:16:02
  you can find them, so that's it. Yeah, I haven't quite figured
• 1:16:05
  out the TikTok thinking. I'm not going to try to find this smoking.
• 1:16:09
  Jeremy's closing things nice here the game from smash Mouth football players cheers there.
• 1:16:15
  Let me go ahead and let everybody know about us. Okay, one more
• 1:16:16
  time, so you'll understand here. If you want to follow me on Twitter,
• 1:16:20
  you can do so at Tribune South So we obviously are encouraged to be
• 1:16:26
  able to get feedback that way, so that's important. I also want to
• 1:16:30
  point out a kudos to Kandy Evelyn does a great job with our website www.
• 1:16:33
  Dot Southford distribute dot com. Certainly had a great participation in the chat
• 1:16:39
  room. I'm sure some of those people will hopefully they leave their information,
• 1:16:42
  they'll become guests as well, and I'll go over some other information as well.
• 1:16:45
  So this is just one of those kind of things where you know what
• 1:16:47
  Richmond. You know you're the type of person that could connect to all football
• 1:16:51
  fans, and I think that the biggest thing is I mentioned too early in
• 1:16:56
  the show, is not only what you did on the field, but what
• 1:16:58
  you've gone off of it as a business person. I should point out that
• 1:17:01
  the audio version of the Sports Exchange can be heard on iHeartRadio, Apple,
• 1:17:06
  Spotify, Google or wherever you get your podcasts. So I want to hear
• 1:17:11
  it, that's the way to do it, and there are many others.
• 1:17:14
  Please have the red subscribe button on YouTube South Florida Tribune. We're striving four
• 1:17:20
  eight thousand subscribers, so please go ahead and subscribe. Please also comment,
• 1:17:27
  like, and share the broadcast. Want to be a guest, no problem?
• 1:17:31
  Send topic ideas to South Florida Tribune at gmail dot com. So there's
• 1:17:38
  a lot of different ways that you can come on there as well. If
• 1:17:40
  you want to advertise no problem, call me at nine five three or four
• 1:17:44
  four nine four one. We are live here on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter,
• 1:17:48
  and YouTube. That's how you get a hold of us. So on
• 1:17:53
  behalf of Richmond Webb. Thank you so much for being on. We hope
• 1:17:56
  to have you on again at some point and Mel, well, obviously I
• 1:17:59
  know whom I He's definitely going to be my co host on a lot of
• 1:18:02
  these shows. Not that ever had any doubt in the first place, Okay,
• 1:18:05
  but I knew in my mind that Mel is just one of those kinds
• 1:18:10
  of things that you know you've done. And you're welcome to that song on
• 1:18:13
  behalf of Richmond Webb Melfard Junior. My name is Scott Morgan, rock Them
• 1:18:16
  Older City, Madmouth. Thank you for joining us on this edition of the
• 1:18:19
  Sports Exchange. Following the Sports Exchange, we have a one hundred eighths sitch
• 1:18:23
  as Baseball Talk, so stay tuned. We'll have that on in just a
• 1:18:26
  few moments. Thank you, and good night everybody, and we'll see you on Baseball