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Real Housewives of NY Ep 4 & Salt Lake City Ep 3 Recap · Wicked Messy

• Hali&Alicia: Hi guys. We're back. Happy Friday. You'll see this on probably a Wednesday. You definitely on a Wednesday. We've set that in stone. Record Friday. Post on Wednesday. I almost said HALI it's Saturday. Oh my God. So I'm already blacking out. We don't get enough. I'm already blacking out, guys. And I'm overheating in a sweater while it's eighty three degrees out in October, October second, which is wild. So we survived the nor'easter. Yes. And I guess it got a little rowdy, but not not as bad as the coast. It just rained for a very long time. We had five days of rain. Yes. Five. Yeah. It was insane. So it's eighty two today and we should be living our lives, but here we are on the pod dedicated to you folks. Exactly. All right. So we are gonna cover rhony and Salt Lake City today. Yes. So rhony episode four. What was the title? Gloves Off at the Gala. That's such a stupid title. I feel like that wasn't even the biggest part of the whole fucking thing, but whatever. Yeah, they tried. Well, I guess the last one was mentioning the Seder maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably why they couldn't double it. Okay. And we pick back up at the whole Seder situation, Erin versus Hailey, because Erin brought up the John gosselin thing. Yes. She called her a home wrecker, right? That's what she said. Yeah, she I'd rather be boring than than no, wreck a family. I would rather be I'd rather be boring than ruin a family with eight kids. Yeah, or break up a family with eight kids. Yeah. Yeah. And Hailey starts appearing as if she's a bull. her nostrils are flaring. She's taking several deep breaths. I didn't know what was gonna happen. If she's gonna flip the table, she gonna I wrote Hailey is literally so angry that she's foaming at the mouth. Literally, and her nostrils flaring like like a bull. Yeah. And even in her confessional, Hailey says, She looks at the camera and she says, Don't fuck with me. Yep. I would not be fucking with her. No. And she went off. So erin's saying, hey, listen, you're the one that talks about this all the time. You're the one that's bringing it up all the time. You're the one that's putting it on magazine covers, pointing it on TikTok. And Hailey goes, What's a tip top? Tip top!! She's a fucking loony bin. She's crazy. She really is. But Erin is just so messy. And one thing I did pick up on is Erin's smirk. And it's crazy because I just recently saw a video. For some reason, my algorithm is giving me videos on how to spot a psychopath. and one of them was that they'll have this face of surprise, but like their eyebrows won't fully like connect and go up, I think it is. And Erin was literally like the face of surprise while while Hailey's going off, but she also like kind of had a smirk on and her yeah, it was just like psychopathic. Wow, that's interesting. Very and cause what I'm thinking, because I s I noticed that too, what I'm thinking is she was thinking in her brain, you Idiot. You fell for the bait. You're making yourself look batshit on TV, you idiot. Right. Good for me. And thank God. Now I look calm and you look crazy. I know. Not for long though. No. No. so Erin at one point actually did get up out of her seat. Yeah. and I'm thinking to myself, Are you crazy? I know. I which I was surprised. I'm like, whoa, but then in my head, I was like, Is this like fun in games for Erin? Because her marriage is such a fucking disaster and like they're in so much debt and all these things that are on on online about her. You know what I mean? So it's like this is playtime for her, and she like wants to keep igniting the flame and getting up and screaming at Hailey. Like, I don't know. I just got I just really looked into this. Outlet. Yes. Outlet. That is a good point. I mean, it was it was definitely for funsies for her. There's no like because Hailey had raw. Pain. And she even said, Do you know how painful that was? I was 22 and it ruined my life. And Erin just kept going. It's fucked up. Kept going. It's crazy. And actually, Carol was randomly pissed and defended Hailey out of nowhere and said, calling somebody boring and then being told you broke up a marriage with eight kids is not the same. It's not. So Hailey actually declared, well. I was gonna say that she quits, but she actually also says, Erin, you're a garden snake, yes, and I'm a fucking mongoose. Yes. Yeah, she was going off. Self-declared mongoose. I know. Who's high on everything? smoking mongoose. But like could she actually fight? I don't know. Could Erin actually beat her up? Maybe. Well, one thing could she fight? I truly believe even if you are like a very good fight, whatever. You don't fuck with crazy. No, I know. Could she throw a punch? No, but crazy people are smashing glass. You know what I mean? It's actually a PTSD response like that, because that's what that was. It was truly like, you just brought up my trauma. Sorry, my foot. I was What is that? There's a mongoose here. but yeah, no, I I don't know. But did you at one point when Hailey got up and was like, I quit, I quit. You hear Daisy, and they I don't know why they put this in there. She goes, I have anxiety. yeah, I did! I was like, What the fuck? It has nothing to do with you. Maybe it's because she was putting on the dinner and she was like, oh my gosh, yeah, like this is too much. Yeah. But then she starts screaming at this kid, Dale. Yeah. poor kid. Dale. So this scene was on when Tim was like walking past or something. Yeah. And he said, That guy's banging all those women. And I said, No Tim, that's not how that works. Blah blah blah. And he said, I guarantee one of them. And I said no. And then I said, Well, maybe Daisy. You think? I don't think, but I'm just saying if Remember the whole tutor thing? He looks like a mongoose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying he's a catch, but I'm just saying it's don't no, I know. After like she's not in good place right now. But I don't know. Would he really want to have sex with Daisy when she's literally making him her bitch? Like he does everything. He's supposed to be a driver, but he's like doing this, he's doing that, he's serving them. He's fuck that. I'm sure he doesn't get paid enough for all that. I'm sure gu guys will have sex with the fucking anything. But yeah, I don't know. And that's just a fake rumor I'm spreading. But Dale is I feel bad for Dale. Yeah. Dale is I hope he's getting paid a lot, and you know he's not. He seems very chill. He was like, I've been around here. You have to be with this group of women or you'll lose your mind. I know. And then the food comes out and then Jessel in her what is it called? I almost said confession commissionary. What the fuck is that? Her confessional is talking about the matzo ball soup and she thinks it's meat that's gray. This episode really like Jessel was like getting under my skin and I'm like, you're really annoying me, and you're acting stupid as fuck. Who doesn't know that that's not meat? it's Bread. I didn't know that. okay. Did you think it was gray meat? I don't know. I would never eat something called that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've never I don't know. I've never seen it. I don't even know what we're talking about right now. What's happened? But yeah, I had to be honest with myself there. I was lost. Okay. Yeah. Now Carol. and I'm sorry, we we probably should have said like she she got up, Hailey got up, upset. Sai followed her, tricked her into coming back in, making making her feel safe. And I was like, You don't trust this girl. I know. Whatever though. She's a snake. So she gets her back in because she knows it's good for ratings. Like this chick can't go home or it's gonna ruin everything for us. She gets her back in and now it's Carol's turn to say something. So she just feels that she must rehash the whole love story situation with Jessel. Carolyn Bessette Summer. And I think it's to be fair, she did have some time between these scenes, I'm sure days, weeks, whatever, to articulate. How she wanted to like talk to Jessel about it. Cause it was delicate, you know, and I think she did a good job. You know, it isn't a vibe, it's not an aesthetic, it's my friend, and she's dead. Yeah. which is what we said last week that we were like the only thing I could think of why she would react was pretty much that. Exactly. but then she calls her dingbat I know. And and her follow up is, well, I could call her an idiot. I could call her rude. I could call her disrespectful. Dingbat is much better. And Jessel's like, Huh? Well the thing is, yeah, in her confessional she names all that and it's like marking them off. And so she doubles down. However, little Miss Jessel doubles down in her confessional too. Yeah. And it's not good, Hali She said she kept she's like Carolyn? Carol, I'm always getting them mixed up. No, I know. That was bad. No, that's she was annoying me this episode. No, she was saying really bad stuff. It was like a low blow. Yeah, she's like giving mean girl vibes this time this season so far. Out of this episode. Yeah. F episode one, which I loved her. Kind of three. but I don't it didn't bother me. Yeah, no. her speech in the first episode. I understand. That I said that Carol was taking this too far when it was said. But if this is a side of her of Jessel that Carol knows, I thought it was just a a slip of a tongue. Right. Now I'm starting to think, you can't even say sorry, can you? Well, and then they get into the love story show too. And she says, like, don't ever bring up that curse again. That's not okay. Don't say that around me. But then she leads into don't tell me anymore because I don't I haven't finished the show yet. And it's like, honey, every the the world knows the story. She stopped herself from saying it because she knew. It's like, where is your brain? Why the f I know? And Carol herself says she's like she's like, Well, everyone knows. Like you like how it ends. What are you talking about? Yeah. That's what I'm saying, Jessel. I was like, Who are you? and this and why were you late still? I'm still mad about that. Yeah, that was crazy. meanwhile, but while all of this is still happening, Hailey is just crying at the table. I know. She's like bright red, her eyes are all glossy. She's like, Shit, I need my weed pen. Where is it? Yeah. And I need a protein bar. Yeah, exactly. and then the popcorn ceiling thing comes up. Yeah, as if we haven't had enough at this dinner table. Now we got the popcorn ceiling. I know, but Erika was a part of that at Daisy's and she kind of sat there and then finally was like joking and was like, should I do it myself and scrape it all off? Like, guys, cut the shit. That's someone's like living area. I when I with a child. When I saw that scene, I thought I would f lose my fucking mind if someone did that to me. Me too. However, I've been thinking about it. Sai and Daisy are genuine friends for decades. Yes. Okay. So what I'm thinking in my head is one of two scenarios. Okay. The first scenario is that this was pushed by production. Yeah. Because New York is known to have the quirky storylines like we're fighting over popcorn ceilings. Right. Second one problem is not the problem. Right. Second one, which I'm actually thinking more. Because Sai and Daisy. Daisy are actual friends, of course. Sai has been to her apartment countless times. Right. And I bet they've giggled about it together. Like, you know, like, but I think when Sai said it on camera, Sai never said it. But when it well, when it was said and they were all laughing about it. Sai wasn't there. It was Erika, Jessel, and Daisy. And they had come over to Daisy's to hang out and they started giggling about the popcorn ceiling. And then Erika had something in her hair. And Jessel was like, no. So no Sai then randomly popped up during this and how did she What do you mean, Daisy? I think you are bothered. And she just popped in there. And then Daisy and Sai started going at it. About Sai's apartment. Because Sai's like, what is it? Because all our apartments look differently. And then we get the reveal that Sai's paying $25,000 a month for her fucking apartment. I don't know if I'm more shocked about that or more shocked that Daisy pays $300. I know Well, Erin in her confessional said, I'd trade Abe for a rent stabilized fucking apartment. And I'm like, You're a fucking asshole. I would too. But yeah, that that was that was wild. And it really set Sai off because she obviously had a mental break. She says, Sai declares that she loves her life and she's living in a dream. Yeah. It reminds me, d you watched Euphoria, right? Yeah. The scene where I think it's season one or two where Sydney Sweeney's in the bathroom crying and she's like, I've never been happier. Cause Carol says that in her confessional, she's the angriest happy person I've ever seen. But also, what are they are they like massaging her feet at this apartment for twenty five thousand? Like amenities are amenities, but twenty five fucking thousand dollars? And why the fuck are you doing that before you're gonna get divorced? What is her actual job? She has a real..influencer I don't that's not her job, John. Yes, it is. the first you're all the brand deals and everything. Yes, yes. Dude, that's how they make tons of money. That's how why you get on shows like this. It it you bumped up three tiers because you're on a fucking reality television. Like that is a different level though. Because New York did not do that well. I know. But she came on as an influencer. Exactly. So it's Yeah. But that just amplified everything because now we're like, you're on TV and you have more followers. It is a dumb financial decision. Doesn't she have children? You I don't care how much you're not that rich. The kids are so happy there. So what's the math on that? We won't do math during this podcast, but that's a lot a year. I know. Twenty five times twelve. I don't know. We won't do that. Although I did have to do math on the spot with a patient the other day and I did it in my head and I got an answer and I was like, fuck, I can't do this. I gotta write it out. And I got it right. you did? Yeah. So I'm I'm tiering up. Okay. I'm not tiering down. I'm deteriorating. I am. I am. so Erika saves the whole seder situation. Yeah. Say that three times. Yes. and she tells everybody, listen guys, I think we could all use a break. I wanna invite you to my private island. I can't. Meanwhile, jessel's like, Pavit and I have gone went there last year and it was absolutely gorgeous. Three months before. Yes, and it was lovely. Ridiculous. Like how? I know. Well, we'll get to that 'cause I have some things to say later. No, because I didn't know they were friends before then, but yeah. Yeah, I don't even know. Well, how friendly do you really have to be? She probably s found out, hey, this girl's gonna be on the show that I'm gonna be on. Like she's gonna wanna step up to me and like Yeah, who knows? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. and so yeah, everyone gets invited and that's pretty much where we leave off for there. Okay. The seder ends, thank God. So I was Dealing with Desmond when I was putting these in order. The next one I have is with her aunt Sophia. Is that true? No. It is Carol her friend slash he's assistant to her kind of working, and they're walking down the street. They call Erika on FaceTime. Okay. Because Carol wants Erika to come to the gala. And she says in her confessional, it's because Erika's pockets are very deep, so we need someone like Erika there. Yes, okay. And Erika says, I'm so sorry, I can't. I have to go to Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere because Anne invited me. And the assistant goes, Anne is in Anne Hathaway. And Erika goes, Yes. And Carol goes, Well, Meryl Streep didn't invite you, so why are you not coming to my gala? Bitch! my god, I must have missed this. Yeah, I was floored. I was like, Who's calling you Carol? You're not invited to the premiere. Get the hell out of here with that, Meryl Streep's not inviting you and Anne Hathaway's any less than that. What the hell is Anne Hathaway? I'd say Anne's even better. She came up even quicker and has done probably Well, let's not compare. Yeah, I don't really know. But it's she's nothing to turn your nose up at. Anne Hathaway? I know. She's pregnant right now and she's gonna be gone for a while. So, like, yeah, you go. You go, you go. You don't break a relationship with Anne Hathaway for Carol. Whatever the fuck her last name is. Radswell, Radscliffe. Fucking rat. Cliffy Claff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was pissed. Yeah, that's crazy. I am glad I missed that part. okay. Aunt Sophia and Sai. Is that the aunt's name? Yeah. Gotcha. Yes. So now we have Sai with her aunt. Her mom's sister. Her mom's sister and Sophia's the youngest of the children, I think she said. Sure. Youngest aunt. Yes. And Sai's getting really vulnerable with her about the marriage, which is it's not funny, but like obviously they had this planned. You guys are gonna go for a walk on this street on this day at this time for filming, and you're gonna talk about this. And Sai is just so happy to be able to talk shit and make it sound like it's coming from a concerned place with her aunt. Like she buries him during this. Right. And I think one of the Coolest things that I heard the aunt say in the beginning of their conversation was being in the wrong relationship is lonelier than being alone. And I cannot stress that enough. If anyone who listens is in a relationship where they're like questioning that or they even feel lonely with a person sitting five feet from you on a couch every single night, every single day, walk away, leave, because it's the worst feeling in the world. And the problem, and I agree, I'm I'm That's like powerful statement. I'm Biggest advocate of like if if it's broken, you gotta get out. It sounds fake, right? Because it's it's the truth. Being with somebody, okay, physically with somebody. Yeah. Boyfriend, husband, doesn't matter. You would think, well, even if we hate each other, we're not getting along, it's better than being alone. Right. Because That makes sense, right? They're right there. No, it literally you are more lonely being with somebody like that. It's it's it makes you just like your thoughts are racing. You're like You lose yourself. Absolutely horrible. And it's hard to walk away. I will say, once you're in the thick of that and it's gotten to a certain point and it's years and years, you do. You just like you go with it. Well, of course, but we we need the people to figure it out sooner because it's like She even admitted that she, well, not she, but Sophia mentions, I haven't seen him affectionate with you in years. And she says, why would he want to stay in that marriage if you guys don't kiss, hug, do anything? And Sai says, Well, I think he likes the illusion of having a family. Of being Sai's hus of her husband, a family unit. Yep. And the lifestyle. And the lifestyle, which I'm like, Sai, be real. He wants the lifestyle. Yeah, an illusion of a family unit. I know. Like, shut up. Although Sai did say, and I hope this was the right wording because this was bad wording, so I hope she meant it that he was aggressive when she said the D word. So she had to change it to separation. So he wouldn't get any more. I think you misheard because I think what she said, because her aunt said, Are you guys Talking, are you talking the D word? And she says, Well, no, I didn't I felt that would be too aggressive if I approached him with divorce right away. So I said separation. Maybe I did. And I said, and she said, so we can give this a try and see what happens. But she's always known she's wanted a divorce. Yeah. She even says if they didn't have kids, it would be a wrap. All right. How many people are doing that? I was just talking about that earlier with Katie. A lot of people say they stay married because of the kids. And it's like, don't. Everyone I know that like their parents were argumentative growing up. Everyone of my friends would just say, I wish they would just get divorced. I know. That's the craziest thing. It's like even the kids are like, please stop. Like this is worse than having two separate households. If you do it the right way, it's fine. And you know what? I think that, you know, sai's little friend Daisy is about to be on the same friggin' road as her. Okay. So buckle up, buttercup. Although, my goodness, I was dying when Sai was telling the story about her birthday dinner. Yeah. So they have their birthday dinner. He takes her out. And this is supposed to be a refresh, right? Yeah. Well, she was like, wow, he's actually trying to do something new and like take me out. Right. Which is great. Right. So it was somewhat recently. Yes. and so they go out, they have an amazing meal, the chemistry is there. They get home, they have a mind-blowing sex. Yep. And after it's done, for some reason she looks at her. credit card statements and sees that the dinner went on her card. But my question is, what card was he gonna use? If he's a stay-at-home dad for how many years now, where what was he gonna use? She pays all the bills, obviously, if he's not financially giving anything, unless, like, does he have money saved and he could have used a different card? That's the only thing I was confused about. I I imagine he does not have zero dollars and I don't know the timeline, but I thought she said that he randomly got a job. Yeah, before this season started. Yeah. Okay. So maybe it doesn't matter. Either way, I I don't think he's having to ask her for like five bucks every time he wants a coffee. But that's what I'm thinking. Like, wouldn't that be a shared credit card if he's an authorized user? But he should have his own at least debit. There's no way that your guy can't I would hope so. I don't know. But maybe that's one of the problems. Yeah. But however, obviously that's not the case that he has no money because then it would have been like exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. And then Sai also opens up about the situation of three months before her mom passed away and how she had to kick her out, which happened because they were on vacation. Mom stayed at the house and completely destroyed the house. Didn't let the dogs out. my God. Painted all over the bathroom walls. That was very interesting. It's food everywhere, completely destroyed those poor dogs. Well, she said that her mom was a severe alcoholic. Yeah. Like she I think she had schizophrenia as well. Okay. That would so and that would make sense with her painting on the walls and whatnot. Because she said she came and her pants were half off and she and she was so drunk. I'm sorry you can't be around the kids like this, you have to go. Right. So she went to a shelter and then three months passed and that is eating Sai alive and I she was found in a park. That is so like, how do you ever get over that? And it's not it's not sai's fault, but how do you forgive your like that is I feel so bad. yeah, I would I would absolutely feel Horrible. I mean, that's kind of similar to the fact that my mom passed away shortly after Mother's Day and I was upstairs in my makeup room doing my makeup and she came and I didn't even come down. Still to this day, it's like terrible. I don't want to cry, but horrible. I didn't know that. Yeah. So like it I it's things you think about to that was like I was like, my God, I know exactly what she's feeling. but then to top it off, like her husband doesn't even have a sit down conversation and it's just like, that was fine. And like your mom just just kicked out and now is in a shelter and let's not talk about it or let me not check in with you. So like there's just this guy has racked up all these things and she's valid for wanting a divorce at this point. Yeah. No, absolutely. And I think she should. Yeah, absolutely. You know who else I think needs to divorce is Jessel and Pavit. Dude, I know. I I was really again, Jessel, what is she doing? I love her and I hate her right now. The comment about where do I put my donation clothes and Pavit's like. The Salvation Army, blah blah blah. She goes, Okay, you can do that. You can run that errand. Honey. I where's the question in there? That was so weird. Like, are you saying it's too gross to go in there? Because that's not a good look. Or are you saying that, like, obviously you're it or is that how you treat your husband? Or is it because he quit his job and he's just an food influencer now that's not making any money? Do you know that when I said last week it really bothers me when the house husbands take over and you should have your own career? I that followed me mentally for a few days 'cause I was like, I don't know if he quit his job. Right. And then she said he did. And now I'm like, oh my God, he actually quit his fucking job. But then he was very like kind of secretive with what he was working on, the name of the business, all these different things. And I kind of took that as like They're not doing well if he doesn't even feel like I can tell you what I'm gonna name my business, what it's actually going to function as, et cetera. And like he feels like she's gonna judge him or shoot it down or things like that. And that's not a well oiled machine in a marriage. No if a partner can't talk about that. D you that's like the basis. I can't talk about that. I think the whole thing is weird. And I think that the last two seasons we've seen them on, I think it they were on for two. It's been a very quirky, weird banter, something that I couldn't understand, but I was like, it works for them. Exactly. That's not what we're getting right now. This is marital frustration. Tension. Yeah, it's like not great. Roommates at this point. Yeah. There's the roommates again. Yeah. yeah. So can we talk about hailey and Herman? my god. Bird watching. What the fucking fuck? Well it did come out that she's her therapist, which I think in New York a psychologist can also prescribe medication, and she says she fills my Xanax. This makes a lot more sense to me. She's probably taking quite a high daily dose of Xanax, which then fucks up your cognition, makes you slower to respond, slower to react in combination with the marijuana. it all kind of makes sense now. Right. That makes sense. Yeah, no bueno. She's gonna have dementia in twenty years. watch. And also, but like seeing the mom too, it's like I think you're already a little spacey. Yes. But then you have that. Yeah. And then and if she's drinking on it, what is it? Like if if you have one drink. That's probably why she doesn't really drink. Is this true or is this an old wives tale? Yeah. If you if you take a Xanax, okay, just whatever normal. And then you had one drink, it would impair you equal to three. yeah. A hundred percent, if not more, depending on the person. Right, right. Okay. oh yeah. Yeah, you don't mix benzos. And you can also die from respiratory depression. You could stop breathing. Yeah. I mean, there's a million things that could go wrong here. And the lady's not eating. She only eats protein bars. Literally. Yes. but this was sad. This was messed up. And eye-opening. Okay. yeah. Now I'm okay. So pretty much she's talking to her mom and she's trying to have a come to Jesus moment and bringing up how traumatic it was and how she you know, it was so hard for her to get over. And the mom has the nerve to say, It seems like you're still not over it. And she also keeps saying, We went through this and I had to deal with this and I was so traumatized. And I'm like, oh my God. And then in her confessional, Hailey's confessional, she's like, She's saying these things that she's traumatized, but she's the one who orchestrated the whole fucking thing. She's yeah, it happened to me. Yeah. By and orchestrated by my own mother. She won't even admit it. but it does make sense now, like why I mean it doesn't take a genius to have known this, but it does make give us more context to why it feels like such a low blow from Erin. Yes. Yes, yeah, it happened a long time ago, but like there's still stuff. It's not a closed situation. There's baggage and and obviously Hailey knew if I'm gonna, they're only gonna let me go on this season if I open up about it. But on my own. So this is my theory. Okay. Hailey joined this show because this is her redemption era. Okay. She had all this trauma and her her life got flipped upside down with the media and everything. And now she's like, I can have this platform to finally fucking tell my side of the story and the truth of the matter and also what I dealt with, even with my family. Yeah. And I give her kudos for that, honestly. Because I don't think she would have joined it otherwise. I don't think they would have let her in otherwise. Yeah, yeah, true. But and the thing is, so I think she knows just like how Carol knew the love story would be brought up. I think she knew the Jon thing would be brought up, but they were both sold a dream, probably by production when they were begging them to come on. You have to talk about it, and you can talk about it as much as you feel comfortable with. Yeah. So when people, and they all know each other's storylines because they're supposed to help them drive it. Yeah, Erin. Is like knows that Hailey's storyline is this is what actually happened to me, and Erin's pushing back against it. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? It's just crazy. Yep, it is. Okay. This oh my god. Then we go to lunch with Martha and her friends, her gal pal. Yeah, and then Daisy shows up, but that was weird. Okay, so they were out to lunch waiting for Daisy. A random child, a mother walk by. She keeps referring to it as a girl and The mom is like it's a boy. I I'm like, that's not a horse. I that was not a good I can't believe Martha okayed that to go on national television because she looked like an asshole. She then was even worse to Daisy. We'll get to that in a second, but when the mom was like, He's a boy, his name's Steven, and what did she say? She's like, hi Danny. And then she said something so off. Yeah. I was like, This is weird. So then Daisy comes and she's talking about the cast trip that she's gonna have to go on and Martha makes a comment, which I think will come full circle probably in another season or two. I didn't write down what the exact comment was, but it was to the effect of I don't like these new things you're you have going on because it's taking you away from me. Yeah. And then Martha's little gal pal goes, You don't bite the feet the hand that feeds you. And I was so fucked up. You're ganging up on this girl. I could not believe what I was watching. She's a freelance makeup artist. I was like, you are you an asshole, Martha? Because this was this whole scene flipped everything. Yeah. And I've always kind of heard that. Me too, but you don't believe it until she- She worked her ass off to get where she is. I think now she feels like and there was a comment too about I think the publicist said like how about the World Cup. And and the publicist was like, wait, if it's forty thousand dollars to get a seat inside the World Cup for a game, how do normal people go? Martha goes, Well, they don't. What the fuck? I thought you were about the people. Yeah, and and the housewives, bitch. Yeah, because a Daisy was pretty much saying, can you try to get like another ticket? Yeah. And Martha w pretty much said, like, not for you. Yeah, 'cause ankur gave to her. Erika's husband. yeah. It's fucking crazy. But I I really yeah, Martha's on my shit list. Okay. her and jessel this episode. Same. So let's finish with the gala. Okay. my god. So it's a gala for her it's a theater organization for kids. Yes. I was a little confused by that. Broadway something, yeah. Yeah. And some for some reason Hailey and Erin are sat next to each other. Yeah, I'm like Carol, did you? And they are being so fucking loud rehashing their fight. That was so fucked up. And I believe that all of that was real. Because that lady that turned around to Jessel and was like, What did she say? It is really disrespectful that they're doing this. This is about the children. Yep. And Jessel turns around and she's so embarrassed. And she's like I'm not the one talking. I was like, that is my worst nightmare. I know. Me too. I don't know who they thought they were. And they were raising their voice too. Like I'm surprised the presenter guy didn't say something. I know. This happened one one of my friends got married and the mother was doing a speech. Yeah. And there was like this kid behind me with his iPad. And it was so loud and Tim was Like a child? Yeah. And Tim finally had to turn to the dad and be like, Can you turn that off? Have some awareness. It's crazy. People do stuff like that all the time. It's so selfish. Anyways. can't stand it. so eventually she actually Carol has to tell the two, shut the fuck up. Times a million thousand, and they still don't. No, they don't. but I did laugh though, because at the end, when the speech was done, everyone was clapping. Carol was like, Yeah. And Jessel said, You're clapping so loud, you sound like a seal. I really like that. And that was definitely Jessel like jabbing back for the whole Carolyn Bessette love story thing. oh my god. It was a great episode. It was. It was a really, really good episode. And I don't know. I'm feeling good about this season, dude. I am too. Yeah. I think it's gonna get wild. I hope Sai g we get I hope we get some scenes with her soon to be ex-husband. We will. I'm sure we will. I wonder where they're at. And if not, then he'll be right out in the press talking shit about. I'm sorry. I'm suprised haven't seen that yet. Because I remember they announced the divorce was happening and she filed this summer. He might just be laying low to wait to see what she says about him on camera. And because there's a divorce happening as we speak. So maybe he's like, I can't fuck around any in any way, shape, or form. That's the smart thing to do if you're the one that doesn't have the money. Right. which he doesn't. Yeah. all right. So we will be covering Real Housewives of Salt Lake City we have episode three, Little Green Leprechaun, Big Dirty Secrets. so the ladies are preparing for the trip to San Fran, I believe. Yes. But we start off with Quai, Bronwyn, and whit in the dive bar. Okay. But it also I hate when they do this simultaneously have a scene of Mary in her house. It it this was weird. The woman that was setting up the cheesecracker tray for when Angie was coming, the title of her said Mary's teammate. It's like what? I don't know. Housekeeper is it or cook? what what is it? What do you mean, fucking teammate? Right. And a church thing? It must be. Maybe. I don't know. It was it's probably a wicked weird title. And Mary was like, let's not have people dig into this. It's definitely a church thing. Yeah, absolutely. and but Angie comes with a flower that has a picture of Robert Jr. And poor Mary was like, I'm not ready for that. Like Put that away. Yeah. Yeah. That I Angie, good for her for not like being like, whoa. But like I get it, because she's grieving, but also it's a little harsh. Mary's harsh. She is harsh, but I mean, yeah. What do you don't Yeah. She just kept the smile on. Good. That the good though. She can do that because that's hard to not get your feelings hurt and feel stupid. Absolutely. I'd just be I'd be like, my God, I'm sorry. I'm gonna go run away and hide under a rock forever. I'm an idiot. Literally. And she but she did the right thing. She let it slide right off her and kept the same energy. And then she's You love orchids. And Mary's like, Yeah. Yeah, no, it was good. so I also I have that Heather and Lisa are shopping for the trip, and Lisa says that she's invited to the Oscars. Yes, yes. This is the first mention of the invite to the Oscars. Yep. And Heather was like, You were? Yeah. And then we go back to quai, Bronwyn and Whitney at the dive bar. Quai pulls up in a motorcycle. Way better than tripp's by the way. Yeah. And then Justin has a motorcycle, Whitney says, and then she rides bitch. Yeah. I was like you would. but this lunch was interesting at this dive bar because this whole toothbrush of Quai putting the toothbrush of her at the time boyfriend, who's now her husband, when she found some sketchy texts and then put it back. Before she left and never. With the toothbrush. Well, she alleges later that it was just dipping it in the toilet water and then taking it out and putting it back. Angie is spreading this fabricated story of she rimmed it, the toilet seat. okay. Game of telephone. Game of telephone. But my point of this is Whitney is sworn, pinky sworn at this lunch, to not tell Bronwyn that specific story. Meanwhile, Whitney knows she already. Gave this story up to Angie a couple weeks ago. Girl, what are you doing? You're sober now. You have a clear mind. Why don't you admit you told Angie already? That's gonna save your ass in the long run. Like these people don't think. Well, she probably was so dumb that she was thinking, oh well, Angie won't say anything. Which is fucking stupid. You're on a fucking Bravo show. Right. This is gonna be center stage. She is an idiot for not thinking that. And just in general, like Whitney's such a flip-flopper. Like she's just like talking kind of shit and not really backing up quai And Bronwyn's eating it up and the whole conversation about the dinner after Apreski and like things are so twisted. And and Bronwyn makes the statement, yeah, like Heather was a or or Angie said, Don't be aggressive or something. You can't be aggressive because you don't know. But that's all I'll say about that lunch. And by the way During that lunch, what the fuck was bronwyn wearing? What is she ever wearing? That bitch, I can't believe last episode she said anything. About quai I cannot believe it. I'm like, the Francisco outfits she wears in this episode. what are we doing? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's bad. Now, before the trip, we also get some news about Angie and her husband Sean. Wait. At Mary's house. I don't know if you picked up on this. Okay. There was mention of Robert Sr. And that he's supporting Mary. So maybe he doesn't want to be on screen anymore because of all the backlash he got for being a grandmother a grandfather to Mary and then marrying Mary. It has to be. Yeah. Because it was brought up that she's very lucky that she had him, but why was that not brought up in the beginning? Did you see the picture they showed of him though? That didn't look like him. Did he lose a bunch of weight? and and getting ten years younger? I I know. I that was fucking weird. And but okay, the I'm just gonna sound so stupid. Why do they keep saying the word bishop? 'Cause he is a bishop in the church. That's his title. Well bishop. It's almost like I thought what what religion is? Judges are called Esquire. they're latter-day Saints. right, right. Duh. Okay. I was like, that's not what okay. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? Weird, dude. Very, very weird. She, I don't know. I I that did not look like him. It did not. I was like, that is not the same guy. She literally got a new guy. Because I was like, wait, Bishop. Because at first I didn't didn't click for me. And I was she got a new guy. That's why. And then they showed him and I was like, Robert Senior, what the fuck? Yeah, it was it almost felt fabricated. I know. She was like, Angie, I need to come in. Like, we need to bring him up because I kind of let it slip. I don't know. But then Angie also says, like, aren't aren't we both so grateful? We have great marriages and husbands to support us. She actually makes that statement before it goes into this next scene of Angie and her confessional. Well, I I have Angie and Sean. Yes, yes, yes, yes. and out of yes. And so now she's in her confessional simultaneously as the scene with her and Sean sitting down is happening, and she just drops the bomb that they haven't been affectionate with each other in over two years, which literally she was just on a podcast after her season last season. Defending her marriage and saying how lucky she is and how loved she is. So was it last season that that happened where there was question of her husband being gay? Yeah. It was both seasons. So did you have you seen this online? Because I just saw this two days ago. If you notice in that confessional, they flash to her bedroom and she's like doing something in her room. And on the bed there's a box, a black box, and it has the grindr symbol. Grinder. And people are going nuts. That's what that was about? I get I don't know. No one understands it. The kid who made the video who pointed it out to me and said that's the grindr symbol was like, Angie, are you giving us hints that he's actually gay and that's why your marriage isn't good? And you throwing this man under the bus and exposing him? Whoa. Cause what was that? grindr sent you a box? And why was it sitting there like that? That is, and I mean he and by the way, there are so many, what is it called? Metrosexual. Yep. That it's very possible that he just is. But I'm not getting that. And well, maybe he's bi. I mean, I maybe it's I mean, Angie is stunning. She is. So it's like but she's a lot. I'm sure she's Greeks are a lock. We're just talking locks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. but I don't I don't know. But you know what was crazy? so she says in her confessional that she's glad that she's going on vacation because she was excited she can clear her head and kind of figure out what she wants to do. And I'm thinking to myself, You think a trip with these bitches are gonna bring you mental clarity? I know. What are we talking about? If that's even gonna be a thought in your fucking mind, that's insane. But yeah, I'm so glad I saw that video and and was able to identify that it was a grindr looking. Yeah, people I kept hearing grindr, grindr, grindr, and I'm thinking, what are we talking about? And it was like propped up too. It was really fucking weird. I'm gonna have to go back and see that because I now that I know what people are talking about. Certain parts were like kind of blurred too, but that was not. Yeah, was weird. It was really fucking weird. That will definitely be asked at the reunion. 100%. Yeah, there's no way it's not. all right. Then we got Yeah, what do we got next? DJ Meredith! Yes. Give me a fucking break. She couldn't even figure out her own friggin' equipment. She doesn't know how to use a microphone. she doesn't know what she's doing, Hali my god, she's like added to the resume. I'm in my Quote unquote, I'm in my Diplo era right now. Get the fuck out of here. Don't ever compare yourself to Diplo. This man literally travels the world and DJs and is so big, you're not on Diplo level. She's like, I'm on tour. I'm going to Chicago. I can't with her. I fucking can't. Chicago, LA. I'm giving caviar bumps. I'm like, what the fuck? And then she was also on the phone with Chloe, her daughter, who she promoted to being a president of Meredith, whatever the fuck. And did you pick up on Chloe? Talks literally exactly like her. Yeah, she's very yeah, it's very similar. Even Brooks all of them picked that up. Yeah, true, true. But also, funny enough, it looks like Meredith Meredith had the Kim K bait concealer on it. I know. I was like who let you walk out of the house like that. It looks like you it's it's she doesn't look good. I don't think it's a good facelift. I think it's so much. Speaking of, was Seth wearing a toupee? Probably. They probably he was bald. He was bald. Mix match and true. He didn't have anything there. Maybe he went to Turkey and got a transplant. That's what a lot of people do. Well, why would you just get one right there? Like you look like an idiot. He's an idiot. He is an idiot. All right. The San Francisco trip. Yes. So Bronwyn is hosting a St. Paddy's Day getaway. Yep. Or something. And at the airport I literally wrote WTF is Bronwyn wearing. oh my she had like parachute pants on that were all different colors. And like I don't know what was going on with the long sleeve shirt. I don't know. and Whitney But that made sense. It was for St. Patrick's Day. Change at the fricking hotel. No, I know that's the They're so desk line. They're so desperate to be like this whole thing. And it's like, no, you know what I would respect? If you know from Beverly Hills, Erika Jane, who literally could have showed up any day like Dorit in Heels, and what does she wear? Sweats. Yes. It's like, and she'll look better. Like g Don't show up to the airport in that, girls. You guys just want to one up each other. And you just, you look like children. And then what about Britani? And her TikTok she was making with the random people in the wheelchairs. Yeah. Britani was approaching people that were not wearing green, asking them, while filming them, she's asking, Can I film you and pinch you because you're not wearing green? Britani. Can I pinch you? She's fucking nuts. And the other girls. We're saying, britani what are you doing? I know they're all watching her. It's like, it will make a good TikTok. my god. I'm like, get back to reality, okay? she's probably popping in the Xanax, too. Something is weird with but they did get to the hotel and Lisa was glad that she had space for glam in her room and Meredith was angry that there was no bath in her room. oh my god, the bathroom. Because the bath bombs, she has to, you know. Always promote, promote, promote. Something did come up on their way to the hotel in the sprinter van about Todd and Bronwyn and Heather makes some digs about like, you married this man and then you took all his money and then you took off with a a young model, which I thought that was fucked up. But my point is is that do you remember the flashbacks and the pictures they showed of her and Todd when they first got together? Cause he was ugly as fuck and still is. Yeah. What was she thinking? She was actually a beautiful, beautiful girl at that point. She had a seven year old daughter. She could have had any man and she picks this fucking fucka Two syllables. Money. No, yeah, no. I know. But I don't know if I could look past it. You gotta look back at those pictures 'cause that ain't cute. He looked e almost worse. I mean I think old age is better for him than I agree. I was he was just always ugly. And he seems like a bad dude. I know. So it's like if you're gonna marry for money, at least make it someone that you like, you know. Yeah, you guys have similar No no, I was gonna say that you can mold. You don't want somebody that's out cheating on you on planes. that's an asshole to you. Like it you know? Absolutely. And she also makes a point to say, like, I was such a positive person, I was so happy, blah, blah, blah. I can't imagine he was that way. Why the fuck did you get on? And I highly doubt you were ever a fucking positive person. Person Bronwyn when you were raised by Muzzy. I know. Okay. It's not true. Yeah. so and this is when the Lisa Oscars invite conversation comes up too. And she's like, no, never go to that. And her excuse is that she wouldn't want to sit there for that long, which I kind of think is valid. She probably couldn't sit for that long and shut her fucking mouth. It's very, very boring. It's not like it's not like the other ones that we see. The Oscars are the most serious one. Yep. Excuse me. Very serious and you're there for literally hours. This better come up on the reunion because I need confirmation that she's actually been invited even pre Bravo housewife status. Because she makes a point to say that. So there was something that she said with like Ben Affleck last year that she got invited to and everyone was like, We don't believe you. Well, he denied it. He was like, I don't know her. Well Right, but she then she was like, Well, I w wasn't hanging out with him, with him. I was just at the same event. Whatever. My point being is on this season of Ultimate Girls Trip, yeah, Larsa from Miami at the Miami party goes to Lisa and says, Yeah, I heard there was a lot of confusion about you going to X, Y, and Z event last year. I went with Marcus and we did not see you. And she goes, You need to stop name dropping, girl. You gotta stop doing that. And she kept going. Lisa kept name dropping. she has continued to this day. So at the hotel, we have Heather, Bronwyn, and Whitney, and they're setting down once they're settled. And for some reason, Whitney just tells them what Quai said about them. I don't understand this. How do you turn around and just start stabbing this girl right in the back immediately? She's on been on two episodes. Who I don't what the fuck? And she's uses the word diabolical and creates that on her own. Yes, Quai said at the dive bar. Diablo. Well, that's even worse, but pretty similar. But still, don't fuck up the word. Don't quote someone if you don't know the fucking quote. And why would you do that? I know. Why would you do that? And that, And hazing. And she says That's what Bronwyn said. And she says that, yeah. That Heather, she didn't like how you put your finger in someone's face. Yeah. And that Lisa. Yeah. Yeah. It's like And it was too aggressive. And then Bronwyn in this scene with them says, Yeah, Quai said you were being too aggressive. And then goes into the the whole thing. And by the way, while this is happening, Heather's in her confessional looking up diabolical. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, a couple of the meanings make sense, but not all of them. Little does she know it was actually Diablo. Yes. It was And Quai says, well, that's a Taco Bell hot sauce name. That's what I was talking about. I'm like, girly. Yeah, stop. No. We know what Diablo means. now we have the trolley. Yes. And I'm getting flashbacks to In the City. I'm like, how many trolleys can we have in two months? I know. You know what? I get flashbacks too. Which it wasn't a trolley, it was a double decker on the valley when Zach got his fucking head smacked by a gosh. Yeah, that was so good. That is by far probably the best Bravo scene I've ever seen. That's so good. It's bad. It's up there. It's up there. oh my god. so they're on the trolley and who was it? Angie presents some toothbrushes. Yeah, she's a fucking bitch. Green toothbrushes. Why would you do that? Did you already have these purchased? Because I thought you just found out about these comments that Quai said. So she no, so before filming, Whitney told Angie that. Right, the toothbrush, story Right. But she didn't know that Quai had said Angie like dismissed her and was being told her not to be aggressive at that point. Right. So So either the producers bought it. Or Angie is trying way too hard to be a producer herself because by doing that, she's ultimately making it so that Quai has to tell the story herself. It has to come out of the horse's mouth, which who wants to do that? And she pushed her into a corner in saying it. I know. It's like don't do that and like don't like label someone. Well, also, you know what? Quai actually stood her ground and said, Well, that's funny. You guys can say whatever you want, because I'm the one that actually ended up telling him that I did that. And he laughed it off and he bought me some jewelry. So fuck yourself. Yeah. Good for you, girl. Yeah. Good for you if a man buys the jewelry after you just fucking did that. Sounds like he deserved it. Yeah, I know, I know. and everyone's kind of piling on her at this point. And I'm like, Relax, guys. This is not a good look for any of you. You know, when people attack the newcomer, the audience sides with the newcomer. And I will say, although I don't think Whitney gave it her best foot forward to really be like, everyone, shut the fuck up. I'm sober here and I need to defend my friend. I do think she tried a little, little, little bit, not enough, not to that type of friendship level. But she did try to say, Well, no, Heather, you're twisting it now. Cause I did say Quai said you were really nice. It was just the part where you stuck your finger out at Lisa. Yeah. And then it comes up about the Angie thing that that she dismissed her. And Angie actually said in the scene at that dinner, you're not allowed to address this. quai rebutled with, I am what'd she say? I can be aggressive or something. I'm not being aggressive or something. So quai is the one that said aggressive. But then flashing back to the dive bar scene in the beginning of this episode, Bronwyn is the one who now is doing the game of telephone and saying that she said she was aggressive. And I'm like, and then Bronwyn's called out for it on the trolley and she says, I never said that. Bitch, are you stupid? If someone on this show says you said something, it's obviously recorded, going to be played back, and you're then gonna have to sit on that reunion couch and say, I'm so sorry. And eat shit yeah I did. Yeah, and I'm alive. Stupid ass. It's so stupid. So stupid. I felt bad for Quai. I f she can hold her own, but Whitney girl, quai could have torn you apart when she was with Lisa B and when they were in the mountains. Why not? And she protected you. She stood by her and she said, She's my friend, and that we have a long history, and you're not y like you said, you're knocking on the wrong door. So she's screwed now. I know. Now she's I I Whitney, buckle up. Buckle up because now Lisa and Meredith have come to the rescue in this scene when they're at the bar. Yeah, they were getting involved. And Heather made a really fucked up statement inside of whatever bar or club they were in while Lisa, Meredith, and quai are outside and quai's crying. She goes, We get you Whitney, you better get out there because Lisa's grooming her. Yeah. Don't use that word, it is a disgusting, disgusting word. And what it means is very, very disgusting. That is not grooming. The fuck? Yeah, she's probably trying to pull her over to the Lisa and Meredith side, but that's not fucking groom. Like I just can't stand when they say stupid things like that. That's crazy. That's like fucked. Yeah. Like they know not to do that. Yeah. It is fucked. And that's like and that's the kind of stuff where it's don't make housewives not fun. Don't make it gross. Don't make it gross. Exactly. on a lighter note, when they do get up and decide to continue on with their night, they get hammered and Bronwyn approaches someone on the street and says, Can I have a cigarette? And this lady goes, This is my last one, and bronwyn just takes it. Well, she was like, You want it? Yeah, who says yes? I know. Go buy a fucking pack. Yeah, right? You just bought a fucking leprechaun gold fucking purse. Pot of gold purse. How much does that cost? Fifty thousand dollars? Go buy a cigarette. You didn't get a cigarette? At a bodega. When did you start smoking? Because she inhaled it pretty deep. She didn't cough. She's probably been smoking this whole time. Wonder if her 32-year-old smokes. Maybe she only gets to smoke when he's not around because he doesn't like it. he is a male model. Gotta keep up with that. Yeah, you can't have those wrinkles. No, you can't. No. Well, I think I really enjoyed this episode. Yeah. No, it was good. if I I guess we should do a fun thing when we do this. Which one do you think was better? rhony or salt lake? 100% rhony. rhony for sure. Because I think the nostril flaring with Hailey was just like took the cake. Hailey's a star. Yeah. She's not going anywhere. No. She has exactly what we need for New York. Yeah. And I do hope that. She gets off the Xanax. I guess. No, I if if she is in any way not living her, you know, life health wise good, I hope she clears that up. But I really like her and she's gonna stay. And her mom's about to be canceled. If sh if she isn't already. So that lady better watch out. I can't believe she agreed to get on this show not knowing what was gonna be said. I don't like to talk about people's looks, but What's going on with her mom's nose? Is that a nose job gone wrong? What do you mean nose? Her whole face? What both of them? They almost they look like dad took the same route for both of them and it's like this rounded little ball face and like everything's fucked up. I think hailey I don't I don't know. They both look like they've been under the knife so many times. Well, hailey has. We saw her picture from Yes. She definitely has I thought I didn't think she looked bad. Her mom though. oh my goodness gracious. It's just scary. Well, you know what? I think that we have a lot ahead of us. We do. I'm feeling really good about Salt Lake, even though rhony was better. Salt Lake is doing good. I think Quai is gonna be bringing a lot to the table. Yeah. watching Quai turn on Whitney is gonna be something interesting to see. The reunion's going to be good. It is. And Ultimate Girls Trip is still going. So I'm feel like they're very strategic of when they drop what episodes of knowing how they connect. So I think this whole Lisa versus her whole whole cast and the other girls on girls' trip. Yep. It's gonna somehow trinkle in here. Like I bet like when they come to Salt Lake or something on the girls' trip, it will also be on Salt Lake City. Yeah, absolutely. Because they were all there. That's what they're And they don't play the same exact footage, it's like what you didn't like the other side of it. They do that with the below deck sometimes anyways. Yes, but we also have T minus ten days until Potomac airs, which is absolutely ridiculous. It's a week and a half. I'm so over Bravo. Bravo if you hear this, I'm over it. Stop. Give us more time. This isn't fair. I know. Well, I don't know if we'll be successful with that. No, I mean we won't But I'm also worried about the golden life. Exactly. And then E on t to put the cherry on top priority. Yeah. So we're gonna configure that. But It's been real. All right. All right. Thanks guys. Bye.