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Mark interviews NY Post Columnist Michael Goodwin. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: It's the Mark Simon Show Live from the w R
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  Speaker 1: Life Back studios.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Michael Goodwin considered to be the best columnist in America.
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  Speaker 2: His great columns every Sunday, every Wednesday in the New
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  Speaker 2: York Post. All his columns are up on the New
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  Speaker 2: York Post website. And he's with us now, Michael Goodwin,
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  Speaker 2: how you doing.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Mark, Thank you, Hey, this is.
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  Speaker 2: Quite a column. You wrote about the woke movement and
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  Speaker 2: you said the woke fever has broken, the movement is wounded.
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  Speaker 2: What makes you say that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, I think the case in the Midwest where
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  Speaker 1: France artsaka Harm lost the race, and it was over
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  Speaker 1: tweets and other social media posts where she called for
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  Speaker 1: canceling Thanksgiving and defunding the police, especially those two. There
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  Speaker 1: were many others, but those two caught the attention of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of voters who said, wow, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: for all kinds of changes, but we don't think we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go that far. And so I think what
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  Speaker 1: she did was she lost the middle and that's an
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  Speaker 1: important task of how far can the woke agenda attract
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  Speaker 1: the middle class, stable voters, stable families, and she feill Now,
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  Speaker 1: it was a very close race, nonetheless, but I still
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  Speaker 1: think this is a moment. And in addition, Mark, you
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  Speaker 1: have aoc and mom Dani both refuting the idea that
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  Speaker 1: defunding the police is a good idea, And so I
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  Speaker 1: think that this is kind of a moment where the
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  Speaker 1: fever has broken. It's not like they're going to sweep
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  Speaker 1: to the country. So they're wounded, but they're not dead.
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  Speaker 1: They could still do a lot of damnage and are Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: I think this moment, when we look back at it,
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  Speaker 1: could could reflect the turning point where sort of democratic
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  Speaker 1: voters and even the Democratic Party itself wakes up to
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  Speaker 1: coin a phrase to the damage that has been done
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  Speaker 1: by the far left. Yeah, so what.
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  Speaker 2: Makes you think they're not just backing off the defund
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  Speaker 2: the police and a couple other things just till after
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  Speaker 2: the mid term and then they'll go right back to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's possible, But I think on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: it's also I think more possible more probable that the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream Democrats, such as it is these days, that that
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  Speaker 1: part of the party will will see this as a
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  Speaker 1: forming of for disaster. Now, we'll have to see what
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  Speaker 1: happened in the general election. Will else I need when
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  Speaker 1: in the Michigan center race for example, and there are
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  Speaker 1: other candidates, of course, but I think it is possibly
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  Speaker 1: a moment where the Democratic base finds its nerves and
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  Speaker 1: finds its voice. You know, someone the other day mentioned
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  Speaker 1: the doll Clinton's moment, you know, where he said that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, advocating violence against whites by blacks was simply
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  Speaker 1: not acceptable, and that was a big event for him
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  Speaker 1: to show that he distinguished himself from the radicals in
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  Speaker 1: his own party. So I think that's what we need
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  Speaker 1: to hear today from Democratic leaders. Chuck Schumer won't go there,
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  Speaker 1: but so I think the question is is there a
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  Speaker 1: mainstream moderate Democrat like John Fetterman, for example, who will
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  Speaker 1: come out and say enough, we're not doing that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: We're changing, we're changing the message. We want to appeal
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  Speaker 1: to the solid middle spectrum of American politics.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Ifman's been saying that for months, they just
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  Speaker 2: don't listen to them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's right, And you know, the Sister Soldier moment Clinton,
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  Speaker 1: I think is what we need for more Democrats. This
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  Speaker 1: has draw the line. I think we may see some
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  Speaker 1: of that in Michigan before this race is over. I
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  Speaker 1: think we'll see eventually in New York City, which of
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  Speaker 1: course is extreme by most measurements. Whether ma'm Dannie with
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  Speaker 1: his push against the middle class and destroying so many
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  Speaker 1: institutions in New York where there's so nobody will blow
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  Speaker 1: the whistle on that. Look, a lot of people have
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  Speaker 1: left gone to Florida another friendly who collins. But I
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  Speaker 1: believe there is still a kind of silent majority here
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't want to go that far. We haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: it yet, but it has to find its voice if
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  Speaker 1: this nonsense is to be socked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, when it comes to mom, Donnie, we're talking
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  Speaker 2: to Michael Goodwin. Some people think you don't need to
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  Speaker 2: worry that much. As he's all talk, he'll get nothing done.
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  Speaker 2: He's like the Blasio just talks, doesn't work, never goes
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  Speaker 2: to the office. You'll never see the grocery stores, You'll
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  Speaker 2: never see the free buses. So what do you think,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it won't be that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't count on that. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: he can do a lot of dambishin no Mark. I've
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  Speaker 1: argued that there are two trip wires for a mayor
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  Speaker 1: that we've seen in the last fifty years. One is
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  Speaker 1: the financials this situation, and he's already playing with fire
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  Speaker 1: on that in terms of the credit markets and New
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  Speaker 1: York being too expensive to buy the bonds and everything.
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  Speaker 1: The bonds don't do well. You lose money if you
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  Speaker 1: buy New York City bonds. The other one is grimed now.
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  Speaker 1: So far he has been pretty careful on issues of
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  Speaker 1: violence and that sort of thing, but he hasn't really
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  Speaker 1: embraced the police, and his next move maybe to cut
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  Speaker 1: the police department somewhat. He vetoed the idea of adding officers,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll see. I mean, at the same time, he's
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  Speaker 1: very fortunate that Jessicatation, her team at the NYTD has
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  Speaker 1: organized themselves and gone after the hard criminals. How managed
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  Speaker 1: to reduce shootings and other violent crimes to a large extent.
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  Speaker 1: But that's always a very tenuar situation when the mayor
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  Speaker 1: is a dig on changing some of the laws. So
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  Speaker 1: this could reverse itself. So those are the two areas
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  Speaker 1: where I think a mayor gets to be Undone.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, the good news is the city council speaker Julie
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  Speaker 2: Mening is pretty common sense Democrat. For instance, she's fighting
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  Speaker 2: to get six thousand more cops. She should be able
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  Speaker 2: to get that passed. Stuff like that, So wouldn't that
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  Speaker 2: kind of keep New York together? Kind of counter mom, Donnie, I.
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  Speaker 1: Have believed that Julie Mennon I should do Mark has
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  Speaker 1: the potential to do that. In my view, she has
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  Speaker 1: been inconsistent and I'm not sure how much port she
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  Speaker 1: has within the council. She may have a majority or
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  Speaker 1: she may not. So I think that she's kind of
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  Speaker 1: feeling her way on these things, and theirs thought that
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  Speaker 1: she very much wants to be the next mayor. But
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  Speaker 1: I think she's gonna have to make a more substantial
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  Speaker 1: standing than she has so far. She said some of
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  Speaker 1: the right things some of the time, but she has
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  Speaker 1: nothing consistent and there's not much the point to by
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  Speaker 1: way of actual legislation that would change the dynamic in
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  Speaker 1: the city.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair point. Well, Michael Goodwin, keep up
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  Speaker 2: the great work. Go read his column. Yesterday's column it's
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  Speaker 2: up on the New York Post website and you can
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  Speaker 2: read him every Sunday every Wednesday in the New York Post.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Goodwin, thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a pleasure. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Mark take care. Hey, we've got a lot coming up.
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  Speaker 2: of winter, when it gets dark, like at four forty five,
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  Speaker 2: dark like seven point fifteen now, So present back on that,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully pushes that through. Now. That would be good before
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