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L73 I Grew Up In A Haunted House with Al Cooley from Ghosts in The Valley podcast · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back. This was the live episode with
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Speaker 1: Awl Cooley from Ghost in the Valley podcast. Really cool
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Speaker 1: guy man. He came on. I was already on his
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Speaker 1: show and he came on, and he kind of we
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Speaker 1: went into, you know, his podcast, how often he has it,
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Speaker 1: and he started discussing his books and the reason for
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Speaker 1: writing them, and he kind of goes into his childhood
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Speaker 1: home and his connection he had with some of the
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Speaker 1: entities there, and how he was kind of afraid, you know,
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Speaker 1: because of the cultural, you know pressure that's put upon
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Speaker 1: us in certain type of you know, family environments in
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Speaker 1: which you can't speak at those things because you can
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Speaker 1: get not only made fun of, which you'll be ostracized.
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Speaker 1: So it took him, like I do, it's only forty years,
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Speaker 1: thirty five years, to even start talking about it. And
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Speaker 1: once he realized that other people have had those experiences
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Speaker 1: as well, then he was able to come forth. And
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Speaker 1: now he now has not only a book, he's working
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Speaker 1: on a second book, he also has a podcast in
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Speaker 1: which he invites people owing to talk about this experience
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Speaker 1: is to make them feel comfortable as well. So go
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Speaker 1: over and check that out. All the links to his
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Speaker 1: show and his book will be in the description below.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate everything that's going on. Guys. I'm really enjoying
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Speaker 1: doing my podcasting. It's always getting better and better. Hopefully
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Speaker 1: and create this really cool show. And remember every Friday
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Speaker 1: we have our lives at six forty five Eastern time,
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Speaker 1: and every Wednesday we will have a drop show. So
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Speaker 1: that's all for this week. Enjoy this live podcast from
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Speaker 1: Al with Al Cooley from the Ghost in the Valley podcast.
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Speaker 2: Hi doing Tom, I'm doing good man.
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Speaker 1: How are you? How are you doing?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing good. Yeah I was. Yeah. We're we're
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Speaker 1: we're we're hard no survivors. I think both you and
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Speaker 1: I we we were kind of on the tail end
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Speaker 1: of something uh that kind of flew through the system
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Speaker 1: and uh, now we're here, dude, So it's uh it's
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Speaker 1: been pretty rough man. Uh So, dude, thanks for coming
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Speaker 1: on the show.
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Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate thank you for having me on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was already on your show. I was really fun.
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Speaker 1: You're very good at what you do. Man, to do
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Speaker 1: me a favor. Tell everybody a little bit about yourself
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Speaker 1: where they can find you and whatever it is that
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Speaker 1: you're promoting. Go ahead and do that as well. Please. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I have my podcast called Ghosts in the Valley podcast.
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Speaker 2: It's everything paranormal, uh, I mean everything, UFO's, Bigfoot, Cryptids,
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Speaker 2: they you name it. Ah, So you can go check
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Speaker 2: that out on all the major platforms out there. And
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Speaker 2: also I have a book out it's called I don't
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Speaker 2: know if you can see that, Spencer's.
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Speaker 1: Ghosts Okay, like Spencer Gifts.
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Speaker 2: It's basically my my adventures growing up in a haunted
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Speaker 2: house when I was a child, and takes you through
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Speaker 2: four years or five years of hell that I went through. Uh,
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Speaker 2: the truth based on a true story. So I'm working
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Speaker 2: on Birke book two right now. So coming up in
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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks of one year anniversary for the
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Speaker 2: Ghosts on for the Spencer's ghost first book, Okay, next
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Speaker 2: year I had the second book out. I'm working on
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Speaker 2: that right now. And where can you find this?
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Speaker 1: Where can you find the book at.
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Speaker 2: All the books on the Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Walmart, Apple,
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Speaker 2: anywhere you get your book, so I mean, or you
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Speaker 2: can go to my website with my website's author, Alcooley
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Speaker 2: dot com and you can catch all my episodes of
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Speaker 2: the podcaster. You can pick up my book there. If
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Speaker 2: you don't like Amazon, you can go to one of
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Speaker 2: the other links that's in there to pick the book up. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I've been busy with the podcast, the book.
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Speaker 2: I play in a band, so yeah, I'm pretty busy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand. So you were knocked down for a
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Speaker 1: couple of days and you were talking about how a
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Speaker 1: ry you're telling your your your podcast studio is there,
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Speaker 1: and I was telling you mine's the same. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: so okay, let's go ahead and let's go ahead and
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Speaker 1: get into it. Man, So what got you interested in
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Speaker 1: the paranormal because it's not a normal thing that people
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Speaker 1: just get into. Something most likely either happened or sparked
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Speaker 1: your interest.
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Speaker 2: Well, I would say it's probably the book and growing
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Speaker 2: up in that house up up until about twelve years old.
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Speaker 2: I never seeing a ghost, had any contact with a ghost,
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Speaker 2: or not anybody with a ghost, you know. Uh so
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Speaker 2: that was all new to me moving into this house,
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Speaker 2: and the first thing I seen in a window, pulling
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Speaker 2: up the driveway with my mom and dad and my
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Speaker 2: brother and sister looking up up at the window was
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Speaker 2: a young girl in a window. And uh, there's nobody
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Speaker 2: in the house when we got in there, you know. So,
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Speaker 2: I mean from day one, I'm I'm I'm label crazy
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Speaker 2: for my mom and dad and uh not to talk
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Speaker 2: that kind of nonsense. And uh so my whole life,
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Speaker 2: I think, Uh I kind of like didn't talk about it,
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Speaker 2: you know, because you're always like the crazy dude in school,
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Speaker 2: Uh who sees a ghost? And yeah, yeah, you're just.
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Speaker 1: Like I don't care anymore, like that filter in the
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Speaker 1: front of your head and the world just you know,
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Speaker 1: you're working hard, you got a family, and you're like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, dude, I have seen ghosts, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, That's what happened to me. I just
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Speaker 1: didn't care anymore, you know.
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Speaker 2: Great, and I was. I was on a show a
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Speaker 2: few months ago and a girl asked me, why did
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Speaker 2: it take me so long to write this book. It
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Speaker 2: took me fifty five years write this book, you know,
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Speaker 2: And I says, I mean, you mean think about it, man.
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Speaker 2: I mean back in nineteen sixty nine, who nineteen sixty seven? Sorry? Who?
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Speaker 2: I mean? There was no Internet, There's no Google, there's
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Speaker 2: no YouTube there. I mean, what do you who do
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Speaker 2: you go to to talk to that you see something
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Speaker 2: like this? I mean, I mean if I had to
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Speaker 2: call the cops or something and tell them, hey, there's
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Speaker 2: somebody upstairs and there's nobody there, They're going to lock
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Speaker 2: me up.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: I mean, so yeah, it was that type of shit
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Speaker 2: until now recently, you know, because everything's out there. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you can find any like your show that you can
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Speaker 2: connect with, people that can relate with you because they
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Speaker 2: can relate with your story. And I call you batshit
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Speaker 2: crazy or or or you know out there you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Trying to put it into context for everyone, it's kind
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Speaker 1: of like this, remember sixty seven as far as I remember.
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Speaker 1: How you can correct me if I'm wrong? Is the
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Speaker 1: Summer of love right right? All the Summer of love
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Speaker 1: sixty seven. So everyone's like, you know, if you're going
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Speaker 1: to san Francisco and you're over there in the corner
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Speaker 1: like I've seen ghosts. Man, No one's gonna listen to you.
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Speaker 1: Bro is gonna be like all right.
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Speaker 2: Now, Oh you got that little there.
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Speaker 1: Is his website, guys that go over to check out
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Speaker 1: his book. I got it pulled up. Thank you, Pam.
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Speaker 1: Sorry about that, buddy.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Pam. Yeah, it was that little little herb.
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Speaker 2: You know you can smoke also that I have what
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Speaker 2: you're talking about that yeah? So yeah, I mean, you
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Speaker 2: know it changed and I really enjoyed.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: The book took me actually took me almost five years
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Speaker 2: to write because I'm thinking about I'm not making trying
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Speaker 2: to make stuff up. I'm trying to think about real
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Speaker 2: events that happened in and outside that home that were unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Some people will go through their life and they have
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Speaker 2: a ghost that's connected with them, and I'm saying love
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Speaker 2: for almost every house they live in. It's like they
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Speaker 2: have a story. Mine wasn't. Mine wasn't like that, man.
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Speaker 2: Mine was growing up in that one house and one
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Speaker 2: and done right. Uh. When we lived there, it was
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Speaker 2: it was violent to a couple of my aunt uncles
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Speaker 2: and a couple of friends. But to us, my brother, sister, myself,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't violent. We didn't get hurt or nothing like that.
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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, that had a pretty good connection with
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Speaker 2: the girl. So I called the girl Alice in my
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Speaker 2: book because that's uh, she was about our age and uh.
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Speaker 2: And that's the weird thing is you know when you
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Speaker 2: move in that you're scared to have out of her.
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Speaker 2: It had on on the on a ghost, you know.
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Speaker 2: And then when we're moving out, I was I felt
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Speaker 2: sad because we're leaving. It was a really really weird
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Speaker 2: feeling that okay, yeah, you know, okay, we had this connection.
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Speaker 2: And uh and all through my life in that five years,
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Speaker 2: I was giving warnings like don't go, don't do this,
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Speaker 2: you know. Uh. We we played a gig when just
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Speaker 2: the way back in junior high made a gig and
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Speaker 2: I was told in this voice could come up, don't go, man,
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Speaker 2: don't don't go yet. We went. We played and we
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Speaker 2: went back to the bass player's house on load all
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Speaker 2: the equipment, you know, and uncle's driving because we didn't
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Speaker 2: have a car or nothing.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: And uh and this guy followed us back and uh
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Speaker 2: he was toilgating my uncle, and they got into a
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Speaker 2: fight also my uncle's house or at the bass player's house,
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Speaker 2: and the guy came back with a gun man with
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Speaker 2: the slot gun, and he blew two holes in the
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Speaker 2: garage door, which everything in that garage imagine this, And
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Speaker 2: if you look around the room from one wall to
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Speaker 2: the other wall, everything's peppered with a buckshot everything, And
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Speaker 2: it blew out a hole in the paneling of the
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Speaker 2: garage and it blew out and his second shot he
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Speaker 2: fired blew out the whole of the window above the
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Speaker 2: four windows in the garage. So everything's peppered, but we
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Speaker 2: weren't hit once. And so it's like, that's why my
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Speaker 2: book's called Spencer's Ghost The Guardian. I believe I have
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Speaker 2: a guardian angel that's been protecting me, you know, is
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Speaker 2: it analysis that the God? I really don't know. I
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Speaker 2: couldn't tell you. I don't have a connection. I mean
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Speaker 2: just I just know I've been always told don't go
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Speaker 2: and then you know, you do it anyway, you know.
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Speaker 2: So that's basically that book, you know. And so the
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Speaker 2: second book is more of the people that moved in
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Speaker 2: the house after we moved out. Now that book is
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Speaker 2: extremely violent, So I mean they had some rough ship.
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Speaker 2: It happened in that house, ah and then outside that house.
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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm gonna have a great time writing
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Speaker 2: these because it's bringing back memories. I told my wife,
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Speaker 2: you know, when I was writing, decide to take it
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Speaker 2: like a couple of weeks off because when I got
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Speaker 2: to the part where we were shot out, you know,
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Speaker 2: it really brought back some memories of how terrifying that was.
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Speaker 2: And you know, you kind of put that in the
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Speaker 2: back of your head all these years, you know, because
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Speaker 2: so many things that happened, you know, But then it
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Speaker 2: was like it was really weird because I'm not in
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Speaker 2: bed that I I could almost smell like that gunpowder, right,
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Speaker 2: you know, so and I had to take a break.
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Speaker 1: Man. That's like It's strange, isn't How it smells can
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Speaker 1: bring you back so quickly. For me, it's such a
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Speaker 1: strong like connection, like when that smell, like you know what,
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Speaker 1: like if it be like Jimmy Dean's sausages and eggs
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Speaker 1: in the morning or something, I'm just like, dude, I'm
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Speaker 1: in America again, you know what I mean. Like it's
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Speaker 1: it's one of those weird things, man. So like okay,
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Speaker 1: So what do you want to tell us about? Do
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Speaker 1: you want to do you have you want to talk about,
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Speaker 1: like some of the experiences that you've had personally the
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Speaker 1: book that's already out, or do you want to go
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Speaker 1: into some other things. I want to I want to
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Speaker 1: hear some of the things that happened to you. Thank
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Speaker 1: you so much, Jim. I appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the uh, I don't know. There's so many stories
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Speaker 2: on book.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
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Speaker 2: I'll do a couple.
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Speaker 1: One was.
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Speaker 2: We jump the train, as a young kids did thirteen
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Speaker 2: fourteen years old. We jumped the train. It was back
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Speaker 2: on the Kent State shootings in Ohio, oh wow, and
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Speaker 2: we wanted to go and protest at Kent State the
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Speaker 2: killing of those four people. And what we did was,
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Speaker 2: we can say, it's about thirty five miles from my house,
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Speaker 2: so we jumped the train because the uh, my friend's
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Speaker 2: dad actually worked at the train yard. So it was
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Speaker 2: a jumped the box car box car and we knew
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Speaker 2: it said Kent on there, but we knew it was
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Speaker 2: going to Kent in state Kent. But instead of going
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Speaker 2: to Kent, we ended up in Kent, New York.
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Speaker 1: Oh. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Six six hours later, you know, and back then the
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Speaker 2: trains didn't go ten to fifteen mile hour. We're talking
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Speaker 2: at sixty five seventy mine hour. We're in a box
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Speaker 2: car just going back and forth, and it never slowed down,
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Speaker 2: so we couldn't jump off. So six hours, six and a
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Speaker 2: half hours late, we end up in and Kent work.
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Speaker 2: We got to call the parent the base players pawed
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Speaker 2: to pick us up, and uh and the guy that
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Speaker 2: helped us out there at the at Kent, at the
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Speaker 2: train station in Kent, they called him box car, Uh
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Speaker 2: Billy Baxter. I can still remember that box card, Billy Backster.
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Speaker 2: And uh so when he he said he'll stay with
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Speaker 2: us until the other authorities got there to help us out,
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Speaker 2: get us back home. And well, anyway, the when the
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Speaker 2: other when the authority showed up, they were interrogating us
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Speaker 2: like we're part of militia group or uh just some
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Speaker 2: thiefs because some stuff stuff was missing in that train yard.
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Speaker 2: And I says, we didn't do nothing, and we just
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Speaker 2: try to go protest this war. And we ended up
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Speaker 2: instead of Kent, Ohioway and the Kent New York and
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Speaker 2: I'm like, where the hell is Billy Billy at anyway,
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Speaker 2: said Billy who I said, Billy Baxter man even with
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Speaker 2: us the last hour helping us. I'll give us some
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Speaker 2: sandwiches and some hot chocolate.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Denise.
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Speaker 2: So he said, well, he says, Billy, Billy Baxter died
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Speaker 2: like thirty five years ago. So I'm like, it's just
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Speaker 2: not me. It's me, my buddy Alex and my buddy Bruce.
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Speaker 2: We're on this train, and so all three of us
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Speaker 2: talked to Billy Baxter. So when we were in the terminal, uh,
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Speaker 2: the girl working the turninal came out and she says,
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Speaker 2: here's a picture of Billy Baxter, you know. And I
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Speaker 2: said that was a dude, but he was much older,
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Speaker 2: you know. And she said, well, he died thirty five
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Speaker 2: years ago, so was that his ghost or it's a
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Speaker 2: pretty there's more to it than now. I mean, you
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Speaker 2: have to read a book. It'll get into Billy's life
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Speaker 2: and how they were connected to that girl at the
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Speaker 2: train yard and Billy and so it was pretty interesting
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Speaker 2: in a book just goes on and on. And I've
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Speaker 2: had a lot of good responses from it. I mean
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Speaker 2: I did some book signings. I think one I liked
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Speaker 2: the best was the one I did and Warren, Warn, Ohio.
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Speaker 2: That's where this story took place. And I actually did
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Speaker 2: a book signing in Warren, Ohio at the ghost Walk
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Speaker 2: last year where they get like ten thousand and eight
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Speaker 2: thousand people come in every year for this ghost walk.
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Speaker 2: So I got to be there to promote my book
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Speaker 2: because it happened in Warren. What's cool about this man
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Speaker 2: is in my book. I mentioned the courthouse, that's that
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and Warn I mentioned the log cabin,
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Speaker 2: which I'm looking at where I'm sitting at the stable.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned the log cabin. I mentioned the river. I said,
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Speaker 2: this is so cool that everything that this is my
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Speaker 2: book I'm talking about, I'm looking right at it, but
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it fifty five years later. You know.
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Speaker 2: So when I had one story in a book where
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Speaker 2: a young man who I went to school with took
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Speaker 2: his life, so he and I didn't know how to
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Speaker 2: put that in there, so I didn't put his name
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Speaker 2: in a book. I thought, I didn't want to do that.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to do that, so I just left that.
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Speaker 2: He graduated with me. He was in my class that day,
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Speaker 2: and he was he had dependency on drugs. But he
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Speaker 2: was getting better, he was getting off, he's getting treatment,
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Speaker 2: he was really doing good. I'm so proud of him
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Speaker 2: in school, you know, and that did that evening he
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Speaker 2: laid across the road tracks and well I didn't put that.
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Speaker 2: I didn't put his name in. But at that book signing,
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Speaker 2: this girl comes up and tells me she thanked me
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Speaker 2: for putting his name in a book because that was
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Speaker 2: her brother. I didn't know that. I didn't know he
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Speaker 2: had so that kind of blew me away, you know, wow,
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Speaker 2: And that so many things happened in my life that
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Speaker 2: I like, my dad always told me, what shit happened
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Speaker 2: to you in a in a year that most people
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Speaker 2: happen in life. And I hate to tell about that
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Speaker 2: anything because strange.
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Speaker 1: Stuff like how life is when you like, when someone
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Speaker 1: looks at your life, you know what I'm saying, they
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Speaker 1: look at it differently than you look at yours. You know,
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Speaker 1: you look at it subjectively and they look at it objectively.
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Speaker 1: You know, they'll look at your life and go, wow,
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Speaker 1: you have done some things, and you know, the same
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Speaker 1: thing happens to me. I've been to Germany, you know,
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Speaker 1: I've done US military all the things I've done and
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Speaker 1: it'll go wow. But for me it seemed completely normal
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Speaker 1: at the time, so I completely understand, Like for you,
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Speaker 1: it's just like, this is my life. What do you mean?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 2: Right, right right, So it's it's it's just it was.
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Speaker 2: It's a really good book because it's a spencer's goes
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Speaker 2: The Guardian. Yeah, I guess it's available at Amazon every
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Speaker 2: everywhere and uh and.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, go get that guys.
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Speaker 2: I think Amazon even dropped a price of nine ninety
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Speaker 2: nine or something like that. So it's it's pretty good.
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Speaker 2: It's it's a good book because it's I think it's
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Speaker 2: worth to buy. And so that's the book. You know.
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Speaker 2: I'm working on the second book.
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Speaker 1: And right now, okay, so tell me a little bit
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Speaker 1: about your show man. Tell me about the show.
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Speaker 2: The show I started all eight years ago. I started
17:50
Speaker 2: I'd always want to do a podcast once I found
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Speaker 2: out what podcasts were, you know, I always like, I
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Speaker 2: love talk radio because and every time, you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: not something a musician, I would go on, uh, listen
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Speaker 2: to the shows on I can get Let's get a
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Speaker 2: Flower hour and and listen to these bands that come
18:07
Speaker 2: on that I was fanned of. You know, there were
18:10
Speaker 2: my idols, you know. And and if that doesn't but
18:13
Speaker 2: you know, radio like that back in the day, even
18:16
Speaker 2: like Art Bell coast to coast radio. That's that's and
18:20
Speaker 2: that's how our town, our Trumbel County, our county in
18:25
Speaker 2: Ohio made the Art Bell Show because a flying saucer
18:30
Speaker 2: was spotted and all these law enforcement UH departments followed
18:35
Speaker 2: it into from Ohio to PA and UH and so
18:39
Speaker 2: that was something else. And and the cool thing about
18:42
Speaker 2: that that episode was they weren't looking for it was
18:46
Speaker 2: it happened in Liberty, Ohio, which is a Liberty township
18:49
Speaker 2: by where I live. They were looking they were actually
18:52
Speaker 2: looking for Liberty, Ohio. That's down by h Wallparison Air
18:55
Speaker 2: for Force based in Dayton. There's a Liberty also another
18:58
Speaker 2: Liberty down there, because there was a UFO crash that
19:01
Speaker 2: happened there. So they were gonna but they stumbled on
19:05
Speaker 2: our county by accident. And when they did, all hell
19:08
Speaker 2: brokes because what a huge cover of that was by
19:12
Speaker 2: everybody involved, you know. And I have the ninety one
19:16
Speaker 2: one tapes from that time from nineteen ninety three, I
19:22
Speaker 2: think it was December nineteen ninety three, and it made
19:27
Speaker 2: our bill in nineteen ninety nine.
19:30
Speaker 1: So.
19:31
Speaker 2: It really sparked this and even it took me what
19:36
Speaker 2: the last year how many years is that later? I
19:39
Speaker 2: mean from the ninety ninety two thousand and thirty, so
19:45
Speaker 2: it took me all this time to get the original
19:47
Speaker 2: dispatcher on my show Wow's And because you know they
19:53
Speaker 2: it's still she still didn't really answer my questions. She'd like,
19:59
Speaker 2: you feel it was that you feel it was a
20:01
Speaker 2: cover up. She didn't want to say yes because of
20:03
Speaker 2: the people that involved she's talking to was helping her out.
20:07
Speaker 2: But I know my had two buddies that work for
20:09
Speaker 2: two different law departments at that time that chased this thing.
20:14
Speaker 2: Keep in mind there's ten there's ten law enforcement departments
20:17
Speaker 2: chasing this thing. Ten the state police, the deputies, the
20:22
Speaker 2: city police, the county police. Then once they got into Pennsylvania,
20:26
Speaker 2: then their county police, there's state police. They're all chasing
20:30
Speaker 2: with what they're looking at, going about fifteen thirty mile hour,
20:33
Speaker 2: low tree top level, just cruising, okay, cruising as a
20:37
Speaker 2: matter of fact, when it when it's almost like the
20:38
Speaker 2: Keystone cops. I got jammed up in this one bridge
20:41
Speaker 2: because we're all chasing this thing. You can't. You could
20:43
Speaker 2: probably write a story about it, you know. But they
20:46
Speaker 2: actually stood a state on the other side of the
20:48
Speaker 2: bridge and waited for them to get on jam because
20:50
Speaker 2: it was it was like messing with them. So when
20:52
Speaker 2: they finally got into it this open field in Pennsylvania,
20:55
Speaker 2: all the all the cruisers lights went on off, dy
20:58
Speaker 2: lots the power, uh everything, They couldn't move. It was
21:02
Speaker 2: like it just took over their everything. And like I
21:06
Speaker 2: said before, how it was just going It's very slow, no,
21:08
Speaker 2: no faster than fifty one hour, and all of a
21:10
Speaker 2: sudden it just went from here to gone to infinity
21:16
Speaker 2: and beyond beyond that in seconds, right, So I mean,
21:21
Speaker 2: and then the next day, the very next day, I
21:23
Speaker 2: know this for a fact, that they were caught into
21:26
Speaker 2: the room back room, all these people involved in chasing
21:29
Speaker 2: this thing and told that they were to report it
21:32
Speaker 2: with a weather bulon. So, I mean, it's just stuff
21:37
Speaker 2: like that that just boggles my mind, you know, especially
21:40
Speaker 2: when you had that. You had we had local TV there,
21:42
Speaker 2: we had local radio there, we had uh local newspaper
21:47
Speaker 2: people there, journalists, and nothing, nothing was in the news.
21:54
Speaker 2: The next day when when hundreds of people seen this thing.
21:57
Speaker 2: People called into the radio station. People call it to
22:00
Speaker 2: the dispatcher who had on the show. I have those
22:03
Speaker 2: nine one tapes. Wow, I got ahold of them, and
22:06
Speaker 2: I was I was actually kind of, uh, I want
22:09
Speaker 2: to say, threatened kind of warned by the military base
22:13
Speaker 2: to give those tapes up. What so I I never did,
22:20
Speaker 2: but the uh, yeah, you.
22:21
Speaker 1: Hear that a lot. You hear that a lot. There
22:23
Speaker 1: was I had on al Santa Riga uh from Bronxville
22:27
Speaker 1: Paranormal Society. You probably know who he is, is a great guy. Yeah,
22:31
Speaker 1: and he was like he's seen like a cryptid or
22:34
Speaker 1: something on like this National land and he was going
22:36
Speaker 1: to go back to like investigate it. And like they
22:38
Speaker 1: pulled him over on the side of the road one
22:39
Speaker 1: day and they were like, yeah, you shouldn't go there.
22:41
Speaker 1: We don't want you to go there no more. It's
22:43
Speaker 1: so strange.
22:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I did. I went to uh Xsburg, Pennsylvania
22:48
Speaker 2: last year for a Kexsburg UFO festival with anybody had
22:52
Speaker 2: those near that area, you should go because you have
22:55
Speaker 2: a great time. People show up just like aliens and
22:58
Speaker 2: space right there. There was a crash there happened in
23:01
Speaker 2: sixty five, and I got to actually talk to a
23:05
Speaker 2: few people that were around that time while I was there.
23:11
Speaker 2: None of them wanted to be on my show. I
23:14
Speaker 2: think it is, but that they still have that, I
23:18
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. They were kind of warned,
23:21
Speaker 2: their families were worn. It was about the minim black,
23:25
Speaker 2: you know, because when they came in, when they came in,
23:28
Speaker 2: they actually went to these people's houses. Now, these people
23:30
Speaker 2: I'm talking to my age now. So they were the
23:33
Speaker 2: kid in that house when the men in black came
23:36
Speaker 2: in their house kind of integrated his mom and dad
23:40
Speaker 2: and the family. What did you see? You didn't really
23:42
Speaker 2: see nothing, right, because I'm almost like they just push
23:48
Speaker 2: it in your head that there was nothing happening.
23:49
Speaker 1: Right.
23:50
Speaker 2: They all seem the thing crashed. They all seem the
23:51
Speaker 2: thing go out on a flatbed truck. A capsule kind
23:56
Speaker 2: of looked like an acorn. And so if you go
23:59
Speaker 2: to text or they have the actual model of that
24:02
Speaker 2: Acorn spacecraft at the at their fires station. That's all front.
24:08
Speaker 1: It's very interesting. You were telling me that, like, you know,
24:10
Speaker 1: you were a big fan of Art Bell, And that's
24:12
Speaker 1: interesting because I can actually hear that in you. You know,
24:15
Speaker 1: I love you know, I always think of like Paul Harvey,
24:18
Speaker 1: like you're also yeah, and that's the rest of that's
24:22
Speaker 1: you give me that.
24:23
Speaker 2: Here's the story, folks.
24:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a good impersonation too, bro. And uh me hi,
24:29
Speaker 1: Hi Daron, welcome to the show, Abudy. Uh. For me,
24:32
Speaker 1: it's like for me, Talk Radio for me was more
24:34
Speaker 1: comedy based. So like I'm a big fan of like
24:36
Speaker 1: Obi and Anthony, like kind of shock jock, not al
24:39
Speaker 1: Howard Stern. Not a big fan of Howard Stern, but
24:41
Speaker 1: like funny get the comedians in the room talk some smack.
24:46
Speaker 1: But I take that and I mix it with the
24:48
Speaker 1: interest and the stuff that I have to put it
24:50
Speaker 1: together to make my show. So I'm just saying, as
24:52
Speaker 1: soon as you said Art Bell, dude, I was like, damn,
24:55
Speaker 1: you sound like you're very reminiscent of that.
24:58
Speaker 2: That At that time working security security guard and I
25:02
Speaker 2: was working the midnight shift, graveyard shift, so to speak,
25:06
Speaker 2: and uh the only show I listened to it was
25:08
Speaker 2: Art Bell, and I just you know, naturally people got
25:11
Speaker 2: on there and they were kind of wait out there,
25:14
Speaker 2: you know. But uh, I got told a guest the
25:16
Speaker 2: other night, like how can I call somebody crazy or
25:19
Speaker 2: I'm thinking they're looney because they were abducted and this
25:24
Speaker 2: and this happened to them where they're abducted, when you
25:27
Speaker 2: could do the same thing to me about the girl
25:31
Speaker 2: I've seen in the house. Was because you know, you're
25:33
Speaker 2: always told your mind can play tricks on you. You
25:36
Speaker 2: weren't really thinking straight, or this didn't really happen, I
25:41
Speaker 2: believe me. When when it did happen to me, I
25:44
Speaker 2: was thinking that stuff. I was thinking it is a
25:47
Speaker 2: it could be a branch in the house. It could
25:49
Speaker 2: be a car going down the street with a light
25:51
Speaker 2: going across the room. I had all that in my head.
25:53
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of this what it could be. So it
25:56
Speaker 2: wasn't like that's what it was. I know what it was.
25:59
Speaker 2: Somebody's pumping their us on the on the on your
26:01
Speaker 2: bedroom wall where your your mirror, your picture frame falls
26:06
Speaker 2: off the warm brakes. Yeah, that's not a tree hit now,
26:10
Speaker 2: So I mean.
26:11
Speaker 1: How old were you when it's happened?
26:12
Speaker 2: Now, that was twelve twelve years old?
26:14
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so that's why I moved out.
26:17
Speaker 2: I moved out and I was probably sixteen sixteen, so
26:21
Speaker 2: four years okay, you know, you know, and you're you're
26:23
Speaker 2: going into you're afraid to have friends over because you
26:26
Speaker 2: don't know how kind of stuff's going to happen while
26:28
Speaker 2: you're in the house. I mean really, I'm honestly, my
26:32
Speaker 2: sister and I we very rarely we had friends in
26:34
Speaker 2: the house because you didn't know what's going to happen,
26:37
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so interesting that I think that that's
26:41
Speaker 2: what I can't get. The thing made a long story
26:44
Speaker 2: for story long, but it was a yeah, yeah, that's
26:49
Speaker 2: what got me let into the podcast I did. I
26:52
Speaker 2: had three podcasts I started eight years ago. I was
26:55
Speaker 2: one of the three of them. One was The Ghost
26:57
Speaker 2: in the Valley. The other one was The Missing Peak,
27:00
Speaker 2: which was basically on mystery. I got you thinking about
27:04
Speaker 2: a Grau and Poe and and different things, different different
27:08
Speaker 2: stories that were people that are out there or or
27:12
Speaker 2: missing people.
27:13
Speaker 1: You know.
27:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, uh like iunsolved mysteries, you know. Uh, So
27:18
Speaker 2: that that didn't really take off, you know, and then
27:20
Speaker 2: which I kind of diappointed me, so I let I
27:21
Speaker 2: dropped that one, and I had another one with independent
27:25
Speaker 2: music uh artists. So I want to get under and
27:28
Speaker 2: promote people like myself to get on there and promote
27:32
Speaker 2: your music, man, if to get something out there that
27:34
Speaker 2: might like what you're doing, may like your songwriting. I
27:37
Speaker 2: had so many talented people, but it was hard. It's
27:40
Speaker 2: like pulling teeth, man, it gets people come on your show.
27:42
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And so I I kind of dropped that
27:46
Speaker 2: one after. I wanted that one to work, because you know,
27:49
Speaker 2: I said, I told you I still play music. I
27:51
Speaker 2: love music, I write music, perform recorded. I've been on
27:55
Speaker 2: that whole nine yards. And I also had my own
27:58
Speaker 2: video production company in ninety six to two thousand and
28:02
Speaker 2: sixteen called Picture of This Video. So I did a
28:07
Speaker 2: lot of over one hundred weddings and baptisms and okay
28:13
Speaker 2: cat's birthday parties. And I mean, you name it, man.
28:16
Speaker 1: You and I are completely different venues I'm at like
28:18
Speaker 1: vfw's and bars. Yeah, completely different thing man. But like
28:28
Speaker 1: like the style of music I'm in, Like it's if
28:30
Speaker 1: I were to start a show where I talked about music,
28:32
Speaker 1: it's always going to be some guitar head who wants
28:34
Speaker 1: to come on and talk about all the new ams
28:36
Speaker 1: and pedal board stuff they have, and I just and
28:39
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm into now. I mean, I'm into
28:41
Speaker 1: that music, that style of music, don't get me wrong,
28:43
Speaker 1: But I want to hear about, you know, the process
28:46
Speaker 1: of like you know where like maybe you'll have like
28:48
Speaker 1: this part that you normally you kind of start, at
28:51
Speaker 1: least for me in the metal scene, like you'll have
28:53
Speaker 1: like a riff that's just cool, and you're like, yeah,
28:56
Speaker 1: this is cool, and then you kind of right to
28:58
Speaker 1: it and then figure out if it's the beginning or
29:01
Speaker 1: if even if it's a bridge, it might even be
29:03
Speaker 1: a bridge eventually. And that process of doing that with
29:05
Speaker 1: other people is the most fascinating and most connected that
29:10
Speaker 1: I've been with people in my whole life. When you
29:12
Speaker 1: were on this little groove, this little wave together and
29:15
Speaker 1: everyone's just looking at it, John smiling and you're jamming,
29:18
Speaker 1: and you're just like and you can't miss too. You
29:20
Speaker 1: ever noticed that too. It might even be a difficult section,
29:22
Speaker 1: but you nail it because like all the waves connect together.
29:26
Speaker 1: That's the magic of music.
29:28
Speaker 2: I think I think I told you before on our
29:30
Speaker 2: interview when used on my podcast, I think I mentioned
29:32
Speaker 2: right on that how John Lennon used to say that
29:35
Speaker 2: rock and roller was meant to be ugly. It's meant
29:38
Speaker 2: to be messy, and and when you get the mess
29:42
Speaker 2: that comes together at that one point, that's when that
29:46
Speaker 2: hits you.
29:46
Speaker 1: You know.
29:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I told you before, you don't. I mean,
29:49
Speaker 2: how how would Bob Dylan fit there on American Idol?
29:54
Speaker 1: He would he would? They would? They would boot him
29:55
Speaker 1: off the show?
29:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, actual rose or I mean you could go down
29:59
Speaker 2: the list. Uh Jesus priest. I mean there's so many
30:03
Speaker 2: How would they How would they fare? Because they're all
30:05
Speaker 2: looking up that that that commercial lized music saying you
30:09
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
30:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, we like ugly music. Ah, we like ugly music
30:14
Speaker 1: music for ugly people. Speak for myself. Yeah, I love it, dude.
30:23
Speaker 1: I love the graininess of it, the fuzz on it.
30:27
Speaker 1: I enjoy that. I enjoy when things aren't so perfect,
30:30
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that, because that's what makes
30:32
Speaker 1: you like this whole AI thing that everyone's doing now
30:34
Speaker 1: with their pictures and all this stuff. It's going to
30:38
Speaker 1: go away in the sense of people are going to
30:40
Speaker 1: go I want something real, I want to feel something again,
30:43
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get there, you know what I mean.
30:45
Speaker 2: Human shows on TV, even though a sudden not live
30:48
Speaker 2: I watched one not long ago and then and and
30:51
Speaker 2: I think it was I can't think for her name.
30:54
Speaker 2: She was not even singing her song, man. I mean
30:56
Speaker 2: it was like, if you're gonna lipsync a song, police
31:00
Speaker 2: sing it while they're supposed to be singing.
31:04
Speaker 1: Right, you can tell, you know, I know, I like my.
31:07
Speaker 2: Wife all say, is he playing a guitar and not
31:09
Speaker 2: part of no? You know, because he's playing the real
31:12
Speaker 2: high notes that he's don The ball.
31:15
Speaker 1: Was one of those motorcycle jumping things. Somebody took me
31:18
Speaker 1: from our birthday in Germany a long time ago, and
31:20
Speaker 1: it had a band in the middle of this like
31:21
Speaker 1: little arena and me and my buddy. He's a drummer,
31:24
Speaker 1: he's in another band. I'm a guitarist, and he's like,
31:26
Speaker 1: come on, thanks for your birthday. And we looked at it.
31:28
Speaker 1: We see this band playing right, and they on the
31:30
Speaker 1: drum kit. There was no overhead mics, no overhead bikes
31:35
Speaker 1: for the for the for the symbols, nothing. And I
31:38
Speaker 1: was like, but I can hear it clearly over at
31:41
Speaker 1: the PA. I'm like, yeah, that doesn't work that way.
31:44
Speaker 1: We're both just like boo boo, this is so awful.
31:47
Speaker 1: Musicians looking at this and just it's shocking, dude.
31:52
Speaker 2: I mean even the stuff you watch on YouTube with
31:54
Speaker 2: Frankie Valley. That dude's ninety seven years old and and
31:58
Speaker 2: he looks like a dead man staying on stage. I mean,
32:00
Speaker 2: I get to do props for for for the years
32:03
Speaker 2: he put into the music and what he did with
32:06
Speaker 2: the Four Seasons, you know, but you know, yeah, like
32:09
Speaker 2: I just think you've got to get to the point
32:11
Speaker 2: where it's not working. I mean, if you're going out
32:15
Speaker 2: there just because you're a legend, there's other ways that
32:17
Speaker 2: go about it. But he's down there, almost sleeping on
32:20
Speaker 2: the stage. And I was singing Paul McCartney. I'm a
32:23
Speaker 2: huge Beatle fan. I think McCartney's voice is shot. Probably
32:28
Speaker 2: get a lot of flack on that one.
32:29
Speaker 1: That's fine. One of my favorite singers Philip on Solomo
32:32
Speaker 1: from Pantera, and his voice is shot right right.
32:35
Speaker 2: There's so much you can only scream and do your career.
32:39
Speaker 1: Well, it depends, dude, It depends. I mean this dude's
32:41
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Rob Holford, he's like, what he's
32:43
Speaker 1: in his sixties, maybe the seventies. He can still rip it, dude, maybe,
32:50
Speaker 1: But we're talking about the realism of things like That's
32:52
Speaker 1: why shows like you know, mine and yours and others
32:55
Speaker 1: people enjoy like they're sitting here listening to his talk
32:58
Speaker 1: because they're not only here for you know, like you know,
33:01
Speaker 1: like incredible encounters or things that are out of the ordinary.
33:03
Speaker 1: They're here to feel like they're part of something that's
33:06
Speaker 1: real and in this world of fakeness and plastic you
33:10
Speaker 1: excuse me, guys are the plastic boobs And you know,
33:13
Speaker 1: don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me or whatever?
33:15
Speaker 1: That's that that that dates me, that's a reference of
33:17
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five years hot like this. Yeah, oh yeah,
33:21
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. I actually showed Darren my comedy and
33:23
Speaker 1: it was shocking. I actually be going to stand up
33:26
Speaker 1: again today after this. I'm going to take a nap
33:27
Speaker 1: for two hours and I'm going to show these Mexicans
33:30
Speaker 1: all about how to be funny and Spanish. So let's see,
33:32
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and thumbs up for that. Yeah yeah, yeah.
33:37
Speaker 1: We're artists, man, that's what you are too. So you're
33:39
Speaker 1: taking your background and enjoying talk radio and having these
33:43
Speaker 1: experiences and being a musician. And I'm doing the same thing.
33:46
Speaker 1: Or were you a front man or what do you.
33:49
Speaker 2: I play guitar, I write music.
33:51
Speaker 1: What do you a rhythm player or what do you
33:52
Speaker 1: play rhythm? Right?
33:53
Speaker 2: I'm doing rhythm late on the there's only three people
33:56
Speaker 2: in the band loo j bass, guitar and drums. I
33:59
Speaker 2: have singer. So, uh we're called the Boomers, so because
34:04
Speaker 2: we're all boomers, you know.
34:05
Speaker 1: And they called this the Exers. Yeah, man, I uh
34:13
Speaker 1: that happened to me. Man. I was actually playing in
34:15
Speaker 1: a band and I wasn't a singer. I just got
34:18
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of rhythm guitar, metal style guitar.
34:21
Speaker 1: I learnt like you know, Metallica and Slayer, big fan
34:24
Speaker 1: of you know, get my speed up and all that,
34:26
Speaker 1: and uh so I started this band. We're looking for
34:28
Speaker 1: a singer. We kept running into those like, uh Ronnie
34:31
Speaker 1: James do O power metal types of which I don't like,
34:35
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't dig it. I like
34:36
Speaker 1: more of the growler, you know, like that kind of stuff.
34:39
Speaker 1: And uh so I uh took my friend there on
34:42
Speaker 1: the weekend, was American guy in Germany, and he played
34:45
Speaker 1: a little bit. So he played drums a little bit.
34:47
Speaker 1: I could play drums and we would just have fun
34:49
Speaker 1: going back and forth. And I had a you know,
34:51
Speaker 1: a couple of beers in me and I just jumped
34:53
Speaker 1: in front of the mic and started to scream, and
34:54
Speaker 1: he just stopped the drums and goes, dude, you're pretty
34:56
Speaker 1: good at this. And it just took off from there,
34:59
Speaker 1: and the next you know, I was actually in the
35:01
Speaker 1: city like being recognized, like, oh that's Tom from Lamary
35:06
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the hell is going on? That
35:08
Speaker 1: is such a weird feeling, Such a weird feeling they
35:10
Speaker 1: ever have to happen to you when someone you know,
35:12
Speaker 1: he knows you're from the podcast or knows you're from
35:14
Speaker 1: your musicianship or whatever.
35:17
Speaker 2: We just had a gig, no well back, and this
35:22
Speaker 2: guy walked up to the stations may cooly Man man.
35:27
Speaker 2: We had some great times together, and I'm like he
35:29
Speaker 2: knew all about it. He named the times and I
35:31
Speaker 2: could not remember his name. Oh yeah, and I don't.
35:34
Speaker 2: I don't want feel embarrassed, but I say, I don't.
35:36
Speaker 2: I don't remember who you are, you know, but uh yeah.
35:39
Speaker 2: You have people all the time that I'll be in
35:42
Speaker 2: a bank or something and a girl say you rede
35:44
Speaker 2: to tate my wedding. I should remember the wedding, you know.
35:47
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember her name. I did so many you know.
35:53
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what when I have my video production.
35:55
Speaker 2: I did a documentary called Ghost in the Valley. Okay,
36:00
Speaker 2: hence my podcast name. Okay, So I took that off
36:03
Speaker 2: my my documentary I made and it was it was
36:06
Speaker 2: based on true ghost stories in northeastern Ohio, western Pennsylvania
36:10
Speaker 2: and I and this is pre internet. So I put
36:15
Speaker 2: ads out in the Cleveland plane Dealer to Pittsburgh because Cincinnati.
36:19
Speaker 2: I was all around man putting ads out looking for
36:22
Speaker 2: true ghost stories. And they were just flooding in. Man,
36:25
Speaker 2: they're flooding in. So I went to these spots that
36:28
Speaker 2: I'm getting these these stories.
36:31
Speaker 1: Right.
36:32
Speaker 2: I had three stories from the same spot from the
36:34
Speaker 2: three different people that didn't know each other. Wow. So
36:37
Speaker 2: I went to it's called the hog Back Bridge. It's
36:39
Speaker 2: in the Hermitage, Pennsylvania. And suppose if you go on
36:43
Speaker 2: a bridge at night and you shut your car off,
36:48
Speaker 2: this girl comes up from underneath the bridge with a
36:50
Speaker 2: like a lantern, and she sits and she's and then
36:53
Speaker 2: she's in the backseat of your car. Oh, my god, dude,
36:56
Speaker 2: but you can't cart you can't, you can't start your car.
36:59
Speaker 1: And then to get out.
37:01
Speaker 2: And I went there, I did, I did the I
37:06
Speaker 2: hired some uh some actors and people from Youngstown, Ohio
37:11
Speaker 2: from an agency and uh so, as you know on
37:15
Speaker 2: your own show, ship happens and people don't show up
37:17
Speaker 2: or and that's what happened this day. I had three
37:20
Speaker 2: actors didn't show up. So I had just my sound guy,
37:23
Speaker 2: my bodyguard that was going to be on the bridge
37:26
Speaker 2: of protecting the girl. I had a girl that's going
37:28
Speaker 2: to come up from the bridge. Uh. You know, she's
37:33
Speaker 2: up and coming actress, and she was petrified. Man, she
37:37
Speaker 2: was totally and I she was. And my bodyguard turns
37:42
Speaker 2: out to be he's going to play the lead part.
37:44
Speaker 2: And all the guy didn't show up because he really
37:46
Speaker 2: didne no talking part. He was just going to do
37:48
Speaker 2: some action. So I said, you want to do the
37:51
Speaker 2: Uh he said yeah. Well I wasn't thinking that I'm
37:55
Speaker 2: leaving her on the bridge by herself. Well, I had
37:57
Speaker 2: to go up that little incline to come back down
37:59
Speaker 2: the videotape all of the sudden roof of my car
38:02
Speaker 2: or like my cameras to get her. All I asked
38:05
Speaker 2: her was don't blink. Well, I'm coming in. I'm the
38:08
Speaker 2: close up of you, right, you got to keep your
38:10
Speaker 2: eyes open. This girl, man, she I was like, man,
38:13
Speaker 2: she's really good. She's like really really good. And after
38:17
Speaker 2: soon as I said cut, she was like, like, I'm
38:19
Speaker 2: almostly broke down. She was petrified because I didn't know
38:23
Speaker 2: she was from that area, so she knew the legend
38:26
Speaker 2: of that bridge. Okay, So and I left her there
38:30
Speaker 2: by herself, which was bad on me. So I you know,
38:35
Speaker 2: I learned a lot while I was doing that. I
38:38
Speaker 2: should not left her by herself. And she wouldn't talk
38:43
Speaker 2: about it all the way up to she got back
38:45
Speaker 2: to the studio. And so I stuck around, right, I
38:49
Speaker 2: stuck around down in the gully under the bridge. I
38:51
Speaker 2: wanted to get some woods shots and yeah, look, look,
38:56
Speaker 2: be rolled back up at the bridge and I forgot
39:00
Speaker 2: to tell my buddies to come back down and pick
39:01
Speaker 2: me up. But I mean, I had to crawl up
39:04
Speaker 2: all that going myself with my camera that equipment, walk
39:07
Speaker 2: my ass up this hill. And meanwhile, I while I'm
39:10
Speaker 2: doing that, I get pushed from punched from the back
39:13
Speaker 2: of me, and I'm on my back, which basically knocked
39:17
Speaker 2: my camera man, and I'm like, what the hell? So
39:19
Speaker 2: I turned around. It could have been a muscle spousm
39:22
Speaker 2: or and then then your ears flicked, you know, and
39:25
Speaker 2: then you hear a grolling sound. And I after I
39:29
Speaker 2: get back to the top of the hill, the girl
39:32
Speaker 2: that was my actress, she was explaining the things happening
39:35
Speaker 2: down and down in the bottom there, and she says
39:37
Speaker 2: that was exactly what happened to her. Why she wanted
39:39
Speaker 2: to get out of there and.
39:41
Speaker 1: Wait and what at the same time or at another
39:44
Speaker 1: at a different time, same time when she was up
39:48
Speaker 1: on top of the bridge, or what right while she
39:50
Speaker 1: was on the bridge, so you separated out. She was
39:53
Speaker 1: having that.
39:54
Speaker 2: Moment and she she was so, uh, trooper, well a
39:59
Speaker 2: trooper man is stay there and go through that. And
40:01
Speaker 2: she wanted to get this scene done. You know. They're
40:04
Speaker 2: all trying to build a portfolio on even small, little budget,
40:08
Speaker 2: low budget felt like mine was.
40:10
Speaker 1: Well.
40:10
Speaker 2: I entered my my my video into a independent film
40:15
Speaker 2: festival in our area at Youngstown State University, and I
40:18
Speaker 2: came runner up. So I was really proud of I
40:21
Speaker 2: was proud about that, you know, because I'm thinking I
40:22
Speaker 2: don't stand a chance on some of these other really
40:24
Speaker 2: great production of them there watching you know, and uh
40:28
Speaker 2: and they you know, they liked it because it was
40:31
Speaker 2: like a like a low budget but interesting kept you
40:37
Speaker 2: on your watching the six and many many videos but together.
40:41
Speaker 1: Kind of like kind of like uh, kind of like
40:43
Speaker 1: the original Blair, which I got as I was thinking,
40:45
Speaker 1: thinking just like enjoyed that movie. So and that's from
40:48
Speaker 1: where I'm from. Mh, you know, I'm from like that area,
40:51
Speaker 1: Like it's only maybe forty minutes for me. If that Sykesville, Maryland.
40:55
Speaker 1: It was like it was a Gaithersburger of that area,
40:57
Speaker 1: got north of DC, and I was like, okay, all right, yeah.
41:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I'm I'm only so far from where
41:05
Speaker 2: they filmed Not of the Living Dead, the original the
41:07
Speaker 2: black and white. Oh yeah, so I'm like forty miles
41:11
Speaker 2: from there, thirty five to forty miles from Beaver County.
41:16
Speaker 2: I'm a matter of fact, I'm going to go there
41:17
Speaker 2: here in a couple of weeks. I'm meeting up with
41:19
Speaker 2: somebody who's got some stories about that area from where
41:24
Speaker 2: that film was uh than that cemetery, but the actions
41:29
Speaker 2: all around that cemetery, not actually in the cemetery, just
41:31
Speaker 2: happened on the little county roads around that cemetery where
41:35
Speaker 2: they had a huge storm I guess a couple of
41:37
Speaker 2: years ago and then up ended some graves, and since
41:42
Speaker 2: then there's all this action going around that area. So
41:45
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go there a couple weeks
41:46
Speaker 2: and just talk to her. I think I have whatever
41:49
Speaker 2: on a podcast.
41:50
Speaker 1: What do you what do you like? Okay, you're a
41:52
Speaker 1: person who's interested in this. What do you think all
41:54
Speaker 1: this is all that? You know? You're getting flicked in
41:55
Speaker 1: the air and pushed and what do you think? What
41:57
Speaker 1: is I mean if you had to take a shot
41:59
Speaker 1: in the dark. I'm not putting you on a spot
42:01
Speaker 1: and being any type of expert. Nobody is. I don't
42:03
Speaker 1: mean that in any sense of the word. Like if
42:05
Speaker 1: you were to take an educated guess, I guess you
42:07
Speaker 1: would say, you know, with you know, maybe a spiritual
42:10
Speaker 1: little twist on it, a little bit of science twist
42:11
Speaker 1: on it, and then maybe your own experience is put together.
42:14
Speaker 1: What would be would you think this is what's going on?
42:17
Speaker 1: I think it's real.
42:17
Speaker 2: I do. I think it's a spirit spirit and I
42:21
Speaker 2: while I was doing doing that filming. Right as I'm
42:25
Speaker 2: getting myself up out of that gollie up on that bridge,
42:28
Speaker 2: I get the the hermitage Sheriff's department comes up, like, oh,
42:34
Speaker 2: here we go. I didn't get a permit for this bridge,
42:36
Speaker 2: you know, which I showed a good got the permits.
42:39
Speaker 2: The first thing he asked me said, I'm sorry I
42:40
Speaker 2: didn't get it in. Uh, but I'm all done here
42:43
Speaker 2: and I'm just heading back back up to my car.
42:45
Speaker 2: If we get to how I was gonna lock me
42:47
Speaker 2: up for what story I was telling him on what
42:50
Speaker 2: I'm filming about this girl another bridge here, he gave
42:54
Speaker 2: me his uh, his history, his story that was different
42:58
Speaker 2: from the three stories I got. So his story was
43:01
Speaker 2: it was back in the slavery when they hung her
43:06
Speaker 2: with a black girl's family. They hung out the entire
43:10
Speaker 2: family under that bridge, and then she was a lone
43:13
Speaker 2: survivor and then she ended up committing suicide to hang
43:17
Speaker 2: her hanging herself under that bridge. So he's thinking that's
43:20
Speaker 2: her her spirit coming up because he says, I'm from
43:25
Speaker 2: this area. So I'm here all the time. I'm getting
43:27
Speaker 2: all these stories and I hear about the ones you're
43:30
Speaker 2: telling me. I'm not saying that didn't happen. I'm telling
43:33
Speaker 2: you that what we were told in my upbringing about it,
43:38
Speaker 2: and they don't want to talk about that because, you know,
43:41
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but but you know, so it
43:45
Speaker 2: was so interesting the people I meet during the uh
43:49
Speaker 2: the uh video years and the h my video production
43:54
Speaker 2: being a video in the Cleveland Brown's and oh yeah,
43:59
Speaker 2: that's right, working with the Browns players and the cardiac kids, and.
44:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always feel that to be always find like,
44:06
Speaker 1: you know, policeman testimony, like like, for example, Martin Groves,
44:10
Speaker 1: if you know who that is? Do you know Martin Groves?
44:12
Speaker 2: Is I heard of him?
44:13
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, do we ever get a chance? You know?
44:15
Speaker 1: You know, it's just one I always always always pushing
44:18
Speaker 1: a video in my direction to and you know, hey
44:20
Speaker 1: check this out, and we just always had the time
44:22
Speaker 1: to do so. But it is. It's on Tony Merkle's podcast.
44:26
Speaker 2: Uh. You know, is a independent filmmaker.
44:30
Speaker 1: He's starting to do that. Yes, he started to make
44:32
Speaker 1: a few uh two that I know of for sure,
44:35
Speaker 1: but he had Martin Groves on his podcast. He's a
44:38
Speaker 1: former police you know police gentleman in this park in
44:41
Speaker 1: Tennessee and he was turkey hunting in the LBL. And
44:45
Speaker 1: if you ever get a chance to listen to that story, man,
44:48
Speaker 1: it's one of those ones because I find police things
44:51
Speaker 1: to be fascinating because they have this constant pressure of being,
44:55
Speaker 1: you know, of course, being protectors of you know, society
44:59
Speaker 1: and making sure it we don't do no dumb stuff
45:01
Speaker 1: to one another, or dumb people doing bad things to
45:04
Speaker 1: good people. That if they come out and say anything like,
45:07
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, I was I seen you know,
45:10
Speaker 1: a werewolf in the woods, you know, and you know,
45:13
Speaker 1: I froze where I couldn't move and I can felt
45:15
Speaker 1: the vibration in my chest and you can only say
45:19
Speaker 1: that after retires. It holds a lot of water with me.
45:21
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about that, but I find,
45:23
Speaker 1: you know, I always salute the policeman. I watch cops
45:27
Speaker 1: still and I just go the amount of professionalism you
45:30
Speaker 1: have to have dealing with some of these people and
45:32
Speaker 1: then have to have a story like that kind of
45:35
Speaker 1: like under beneath things you can't you know, there's been
45:39
Speaker 1: people who thank you, deren Mark. History is terrifying, absolutely
45:43
Speaker 1: one of those stories and to have to keep that
45:48
Speaker 1: under wrap. So like sometimes they'll go out on a
45:50
Speaker 1: call you know, we've seen something, and they go in
45:52
Speaker 1: and they see something and they can't even properly report it.
45:56
Speaker 1: When they finally are able to like break that ice
45:58
Speaker 1: and come forth, I knows to be one of the
46:01
Speaker 1: most fascinating encounters and things that I just enjoyed to
46:04
Speaker 1: listen to. I enjoy listening to Excuse me, M yeah,
46:09
Speaker 1: I love uh, says the English tutor.
46:13
Speaker 2: I love getting a guest on my show that hit
46:17
Speaker 2: me from the love field right field. You know you're
46:19
Speaker 2: you're going down this path and then bam your hip
46:22
Speaker 2: by this side that you're not expecting. I love that.
46:26
Speaker 2: I love learning on my show. I love learning new
46:29
Speaker 2: things on my show, getting different, maybe changing my point
46:32
Speaker 2: of view on something.
46:34
Speaker 1: You know. Oh yeah.
46:35
Speaker 2: I was brought up in the in a strong Baptist
46:39
Speaker 2: or Methodist brought us on religion growing up that if
46:43
Speaker 2: you spot, if you talk paranormal, if you talk demons,
46:47
Speaker 2: you're going to burn in hell. Stay away from that stuff.
46:50
Speaker 2: Don't even bring it up. If somebody said your house
46:52
Speaker 2: is haunted, don't even bring it up. Burning hell. You know,
46:55
Speaker 2: focus on God, focus on this. Well you know what,
46:58
Speaker 2: I think that they a lot of preachers back then
47:00
Speaker 2: put the fear of God and all these these kids
47:04
Speaker 2: that we're afraid to cut the speak out on something
47:06
Speaker 2: that was important. If you've seen a UFO or if
47:09
Speaker 2: you've seen a bigfoot or a ghost anything. And so
47:14
Speaker 2: I had this this person on my show and uh,
47:17
Speaker 2: and I was asking him my very first show, well,
47:20
Speaker 2: I had a guest and uh, I can't thive his
47:24
Speaker 2: name ship, but anyway, yeah, I asked him, do you
47:27
Speaker 2: think you can did you think you can move a
47:30
Speaker 2: spirit on?
47:32
Speaker 1: You know?
47:33
Speaker 2: And uh, he said, what do you moving on to?
47:38
Speaker 2: I says, well, you know, I mean heaven or hell?
47:40
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you what do you what do
47:42
Speaker 2: you think you can you move that spirit on?
47:43
Speaker 1: He goes.
47:44
Speaker 2: Everybody on my team's either agnostic or atheist. So we
47:48
Speaker 2: don't believe in if you're if you're gonna get rid
47:52
Speaker 2: of that spirit, you're actually killing the spirit. That's weird,
47:57
Speaker 2: you're because we don't believe you're moving on anything. I
48:01
Speaker 2: may stay. They believe it will stay in this realm
48:04
Speaker 2: of earthly realm, but you know, and I'm like, uh,
48:09
Speaker 2: you know I didn't really, but since the I'm thinking,
48:14
Speaker 2: who am I to say that?
48:16
Speaker 1: God, I love that so much?
48:19
Speaker 2: Who am I to say that you're wrong?
48:21
Speaker 1: I love that so much. Man, you have no idea.
48:24
Speaker 2: Because because your way, you're you're raised, and you know,
48:27
Speaker 2: we're all like little magnets to our parents. True, so
48:30
Speaker 2: you you suck in everything that your parents taught you,
48:33
Speaker 2: or whether it be in racism or or bigotries.
48:36
Speaker 1: It's kind of an it's kind of an accident where
48:38
Speaker 1: you're born. We could be somebody born in India. We
48:40
Speaker 1: could be of course, we're like the way I see things,
48:43
Speaker 1: and you could be you know, you know, a Hindu
48:45
Speaker 1: and and it's just you know, Shiva and all those
48:47
Speaker 1: all this karma and all these things. It is a
48:51
Speaker 1: weird approach. I've never sort of like an atheist like
48:53
Speaker 1: ghosts like Paranormal team.
48:56
Speaker 2: Right right yet break And then I've had other other
48:58
Speaker 2: teams on my show that had everything on their show.
49:00
Speaker 2: So they had the athists, they had a preacher, they
49:02
Speaker 2: had so they're very well diverse, you know, so they
49:06
Speaker 2: kind of balance each other out. Every bay brings their
49:08
Speaker 2: stuff to the table, and you balance yourself out, you know,
49:13
Speaker 2: is it great to have all atheists or I don't know,
49:16
Speaker 2: I really don't. Is it great to have all preachers
49:19
Speaker 2: and Christians? I don't know, But I think if you
49:22
Speaker 2: had different diversity to my my my belief is you're
49:26
Speaker 2: going to wrong your your group out with everybody that's
49:29
Speaker 2: different on your team.
49:30
Speaker 1: Whether I think a person like yourself being a person
49:34
Speaker 1: like yourself though being as balanced as you are in
49:37
Speaker 1: the way you approachings in life, and I like to
49:39
Speaker 1: think that I'm somewhat the same way. I think you'd
49:41
Speaker 1: be fine with it. You can kind of roll with
49:43
Speaker 1: the punches. For example, I had a guy on my
49:46
Speaker 1: recent episode where he's seen uh uh, well, I don't
49:49
Speaker 1: know that he says it another way because he actually
49:51
Speaker 1: looked into it much more, but would just say a pterodactyl.
49:54
Speaker 1: You know, he's seen that, and he's like a New
49:56
Speaker 1: Earth creationist, And for me, that is you know. I mean,
50:00
Speaker 1: I was like, I've seen the Andromeda galaxy and the
50:02
Speaker 1: telescope for real, for real, like I've actually looked it
50:05
Speaker 1: up and plead it will I play whatever pigas is
50:08
Speaker 1: the square with a triangle and found it, looked at it,
50:11
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at light from like, you know, two
50:13
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million light years away? How do you
50:15
Speaker 1: explain your's creation? And so I'm like challenging him, but
50:19
Speaker 1: at the same time, he's given good answers that I
50:22
Speaker 1: want to think about. You know, what's wrong with thinking
50:24
Speaker 1: about things that are outside of your field based on
50:27
Speaker 1: merely the fact that you were born into an American
50:30
Speaker 1: family and appellation for example. You know what I mean,
50:33
Speaker 1: Let's open our minds.
50:35
Speaker 2: Right right right, and and we really have to have
50:37
Speaker 2: an open mind to have a podcast like Hours, you know,
50:41
Speaker 2: you really do. I mean the Eyes of Jupiter. You
50:43
Speaker 2: have to have a really open mind to have somebody
50:47
Speaker 2: comes on your show who actually shot a cryptod four
50:50
Speaker 2: times I've seen.
50:51
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that was That's a crazy story.
50:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Man. You know, we're having somebody
50:57
Speaker 2: in here that that from the mine who shot Bigfoot
51:02
Speaker 2: so uh and and being little baby big Foot? You know,
51:07
Speaker 2: uh so, how am I gonna stay it didn't happen?
51:12
Speaker 2: You know That's why I have I like, I like
51:14
Speaker 2: people come on my show, you can, cause you know
51:17
Speaker 2: they're they're probably people like myself that couldn't go out
51:19
Speaker 2: there and talk to somebody else who has the same
51:22
Speaker 2: maybe experience. Uh, then who do and maybe now they
51:26
Speaker 2: can connect with me because they had the same experience.
51:29
Speaker 2: And I had a girl on my show who was
51:31
Speaker 2: from Australia and she she could relate with me because
51:36
Speaker 2: I said, so believing when my book comes up. My
51:38
Speaker 2: books already done, but it's not out yet. Uh sorry
51:41
Speaker 2: about one just came out last year, she said. I said,
51:45
Speaker 2: I didn't steal your ship, man, I mean, because your
51:47
Speaker 2: story is the same as my story, your story which
51:51
Speaker 2: you're heard and knocking on the wall, the footsteps coming
51:54
Speaker 2: up the steps like calming somebody's and like army boots
51:56
Speaker 2: coming up a wooden stairs that you're right right, It's
52:02
Speaker 2: just it's just like my story. Man.
52:03
Speaker 1: Wow.
52:04
Speaker 2: So and I thought, so it's so cool because you
52:07
Speaker 2: have people from Australia, from uh California, from Texas. You know,
52:12
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter where you're from a little town out
52:15
Speaker 2: in Tennessee that you never heard of. A little village
52:18
Speaker 2: has the same story man. And that's everywhere. So uh,
52:22
Speaker 2: I love these podcasts on I think Pam, who's you're
52:28
Speaker 2: one of my moderators, Yeah, moerators, she's ass off Man
52:32
Speaker 2: Andrews been. I've been walking all these shows that she
52:36
Speaker 2: does on She is amazing.
52:38
Speaker 1: I don't know. She found me one day when I
52:41
Speaker 1: was just starting out a couple of months and she
52:43
Speaker 1: just wrote me. And it was weird because you know,
52:45
Speaker 1: there's a lot of weird people out there. You know,
52:47
Speaker 1: then you have to be cautious. But she's always, always,
52:51
Speaker 1: always has shown her colors to be true. Like so
52:54
Speaker 1: if something happens, like I had the same gentleman on
52:57
Speaker 1: who you know shot at the thing four times with
53:00
Speaker 1: forty four. He came back on and he was talking
53:02
Speaker 1: about like excuse me that the DNR came to his
53:07
Speaker 1: house and they were like, hey, you got a half
53:09
Speaker 1: hour time we need we need to talk to you, right,
53:12
Speaker 1: because so he's thinking they heard him on my show
53:14
Speaker 1: or some other show, right, he's been on a few
53:17
Speaker 1: and there he's like, yeah, sure, they all know me
53:19
Speaker 1: from the area. And he took him out to a
53:20
Speaker 1: horse farm where this horse was, you know, like ripped
53:22
Speaker 1: open from soup to nuts, just ripped open, you know,
53:25
Speaker 1: blood every which away, lay out on the ground and
53:28
Speaker 1: then two hundred meters down the road, twundred yards down
53:30
Speaker 1: the road, better said, I'm sorry, I've lived in New
53:32
Speaker 1: Urope for many years and and so he's like, yeah,
53:36
Speaker 1: and there was a guy there so they yeah, that
53:38
Speaker 1: my dog's leg got ripped off and we had to
53:41
Speaker 1: bury it because I don't want my daughter coming home.
53:43
Speaker 1: And we also got a report from over here from
53:46
Speaker 1: a guy who was riding his like you know, electric bike,
53:49
Speaker 1: like through these trails, and there was a decapitated, uh
53:52
Speaker 1: freaking deer up there that they found, right, and all
53:56
Speaker 1: this happened in one night, and he goes, so, what
53:59
Speaker 1: can you tell us about this? And he's like, what
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Speaker 1: do you mean? What do you know? He's you gotta
54:02
Speaker 1: play dumb, because what are they setting you up for? Right?
54:05
Speaker 1: So I'm dealing with all this in the moment, right,
54:09
Speaker 1: And the person that I reach out to first privately
54:12
Speaker 1: was my my friend Pam, And I was like, dam
54:14
Speaker 1: what do you think I should do? She goes, well,
54:15
Speaker 1: we definitely have some type of like pressure to tell
54:17
Speaker 1: people in that area to be careful. And then I
54:21
Speaker 1: talked to like certain people are al Al, Santa Rica, Awesome, Sime,
54:24
Speaker 1: and then uh and my buddy uh oh man, what
54:27
Speaker 1: was his name? The big tall guy from He's got
54:30
Speaker 1: the deep voice, you know how names unlike you, Bud,
54:32
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. And he was like, yeah, we're
54:36
Speaker 1: looking into we've contacted the authorities this and so everything's okay, Tom,
54:39
Speaker 1: but thank you for doing that. But you get thrown
54:43
Speaker 1: these curveballs. That is being said but you can't say
54:49
Speaker 1: and not to mention. This is all entertainment, guys, none
54:51
Speaker 1: of this is real, you know, it's like this weird,
54:54
Speaker 1: this weird. Thank you Daryl Denton, thank you. Oh my god,
54:57
Speaker 1: how can I forget Daryl Dtton's name? And yeah, it's
55:00
Speaker 1: an incredible guy. Yeah, and uh so you know, it's
55:04
Speaker 1: good to have people who who do the show with
55:08
Speaker 1: you for the right reasons, you know. And uh she's
55:11
Speaker 1: always been a big supporter of me. And I'm sure
55:13
Speaker 1: you've had people that support you too and help you
55:14
Speaker 1: out as well, don't you.
55:15
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I mean you get friends on here
55:18
Speaker 2: after yeah, so long, and you like you've known them.
55:21
Speaker 2: They pray together at the campfire, you know, like you've
55:25
Speaker 2: known them forever, you know. So uh yeah, I've had
55:28
Speaker 2: so many good, good, great guests on my show that
55:32
Speaker 2: actually become friends of mine. So yeah that we text
55:36
Speaker 2: each other, We respawn each other's posts on each others show.
55:40
Speaker 2: I try to watch as much as I can, and
55:42
Speaker 2: that's hard. By their books. If they write a book,
55:45
Speaker 2: I try to buy their books. Uh uh you know.
55:48
Speaker 2: My wife said, you know you're you're you're you're killing us.
55:50
Speaker 2: You know you're buying all these books. And that's like,
55:53
Speaker 2: you know, it's you got to help these people out, man.
55:55
Speaker 1: Man stacking out the stacking up in the basement there, Alison,
55:57
Speaker 1: what do you what are you doing? Right?
56:00
Speaker 2: We got like I got like seven over your touch jet. Yeah,
56:03
Speaker 2: I'm so far. I'm a slow reader. Man, I just
56:06
Speaker 2: got one of those Uh what do you call Kendalls?
56:10
Speaker 2: I got a kindle my daughter about Kendle for Christmas.
56:13
Speaker 2: I'd like, so I'm trying to get Kendle over a paperback.
56:19
Speaker 1: No, man, I got to touch it. I got it.
56:22
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm I'm really trying.
56:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a it's an incredible process of doing
56:30
Speaker 1: which you didn't. I'm so glad that actually got in
56:31
Speaker 1: contact with you. Man. Before I get you up out here,
56:33
Speaker 1: my friend, please do me a favorite dude one more time, Like,
56:36
Speaker 1: tell everybody where they can find you. What's coming up. Uh,
56:39
Speaker 1: you know what, what's the name of the book that's
56:41
Speaker 1: coming out and all those things.
56:42
Speaker 2: Man, the book's coming out is not name jet okay,
56:47
Speaker 2: but I'm really close to it.
56:50
Speaker 1: I got a couple of names in the easter basket.
56:51
Speaker 2: I got you. I doppers. If you want to find
56:59
Speaker 2: anything about me, you know, go to go to Facebook,
57:02
Speaker 2: how coolly on Facebook, go to I'm on Instagram, TikTok
57:08
Speaker 2: uh act uh. My podcast or my podcast is ghost
57:13
Speaker 2: in a Valet podcast. My book Spencer's Ghost.
57:17
Speaker 1: Uh.
57:18
Speaker 2: It's available on Amazon. Also, you can check all my
57:23
Speaker 2: past episodes on my website and pick up my book
57:27
Speaker 2: on my website. That author ourcooli dot com author olcooli
57:31
Speaker 2: dot com. And it's been a great time I've been
57:35
Speaker 2: on your show. Your show's coming up here in a
57:38
Speaker 2: week or two. I'll like to know when it comes out.
57:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone go ahead and grab a hold of it
57:43
Speaker 1: and post that.
57:43
Speaker 2: Out so we should. I appreciate it, man, Yeah, I
57:47
Speaker 2: understand that.
57:48
Speaker 1: It's all good. To make sure we get everything up here. Guys. Uh,
57:51
Speaker 1: here it is, here's the ghost and there's the Facebook
57:53
Speaker 1: page guys, and here is Yeah, pamaz on it. Man,
57:58
Speaker 1: I's I don't know what I did write in this
58:01
Speaker 1: life for the past one, but I got a great moderator. Yeah,
58:04
Speaker 1: let me go ahead and get over here. I appreciate
58:05
Speaker 1: it too, man, And when it comes out, we'll promote
58:07
Speaker 1: your show. And if you have anything you want to
58:09
Speaker 1: go ahead and post over on my Facebook page. Go
58:11
Speaker 1: ahead and do so. It's open man, Okay, all right,
58:14
Speaker 1: same harey man.
58:14
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
58:16
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58:18
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